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Jan. 12, 2026 - Knowledge Fight
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#1108: January 2-3, 2026

Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ January 2–3, 2026 rants—from his baseless Iran war claims and Quran-swearing conspiracy about NYC Mayor Zoran Momdani to praising Trump’s Venezuelan coup as WWII-level precision while mocking his own "whites-only" economic fantasies. The hosts expose Jones’ shifting stances, from opposing regime change to cheering it, and his reliance on unverified social media narratives, like fabricated Venezuelan celebrations. His promotion of dubious sites and violent rhetoric mirrors past patterns, raising concerns about escalating extremism. Meanwhile, Trump’s imperialist moves—"running Venezuela," pardoning corrupt Honduran officials—undermine democratic norms, with Jones framing them as anti-globalist crusades. The episode highlights how fringe media normalizes lawless aggression under thinly veiled patriotism. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
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dan friesen
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donald j trump
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jordan holmes
43:15
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marco rubio
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03:32
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pete hegseth
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Speaker Time Text
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around.
We're just put the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Well, it's January.
As of tradition, you go first.
jordan holmes
All right.
I will tell you that my bright spot is Friday.
I got a new tattoo.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
And it is a chest piece.
I'll show it to you right now.
alex jones
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Isn't that a good one?
dan friesen
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Over your whole breast meat.
jordan holmes
Over the whole.
Yeah, I've always wanted one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But I've spent a lot of my life with a saggy tit.
Sure.
So I'm in shape enough now where it's like, let's do it because it's not going to get less saggy as time goes on.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a nice little thing to do for yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's good.
And my bright spot is not just that I got this tattoo, but it was done by, again, my favorite artist now, Caitlin Drake McKay.
And I discovered that she's a wonk now.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Hey, what's up?
jordan holmes
There we go.
It happened.
dan friesen
Now you could just, hey, one more host to tattoo then.
jordan holmes
You know, like if you like the show, then there's nothing else to do.
I think one of the things she said that made me very, very happy, I think Devin, my wife, had gone to her and gotten her most recent tattoo.
And she had said, you know, I'm really proud of Jordan.
And Caitlin was like, okay.
And then she said this time.
After I listened to it, I was like, you know what?
Yeah, I'm a little proud of Jordan too.
So that was nice.
unidentified
Yeah, that is sweet.
jordan holmes
That was nice.
dan friesen
Well, wonderful.
And it looks good.
jordan holmes
It looks great.
dan friesen
I mean, I only saw a picture on your phone, but you don't have to pull your shirt off.
jordan holmes
I wasn't planning on it.
It's also bandaged and covered in blood.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I don't want to see the blood.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, but it is gorgeous.
Her colors are incredible.
dan friesen
It pops.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
All right.
January.
dan friesen
Yep, it is January.
jordan holmes
What do we got here?
dan friesen
Well, you know, this is also a tradition that we have in January that I have to, or get to, enjoy a gummy advent calendar.
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, James, for that.
Today, we're breaking out the Haribo.
Haribo.
jordan holmes
Haribo.
dan friesen
Whatever you want to say.
Haribo.
jordan holmes
Haribo.
dan friesen
That Meanie?
Kevin Meanie?
jordan holmes
Yep.
I think so.
dan friesen
I can't find the right day.
I can't find the 12th.
Where the fuck is the 12th?
There it is.
jordan holmes
There is no 12 in January.
dan friesen
There is.
jordan holmes
It's like the 13th floor.
dan friesen
There's crying in baseball.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And there is a 12 in January.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
We'll see what happens.
dan friesen
So we got.
I don't know.
I don't know.
This looks like a bottle opener.
Like, it looks like a gummy bottle.
Look at the character on the front of it.
jordan holmes
I guess that's kind of it looks like a Kinder Schnuller.
That looks a little bit like a butt plug.
dan friesen
It doesn't not.
jordan holmes
It does not look like a butt plug.
dan friesen
Or a bottle opener or a shoehorn or something you like.
jordan holmes
Whatever you like.
dan friesen
Here's the part where I try these out and Jordan fairs.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good idea.
My vamp today is to just let you know while you cannot reply that the tennis season is back upon us, baby.
The tennis season has begun.
In the next couple of weeks, the Australian Open begins.
Who's going to win?
Is it going to be Carlos Alcaraz?
Is it going to be Yannick Sinner?
We don't know, but it will probably be one of those two.
It's almost guaranteed to be one of those two.
That is how the tennis world works now.
It's one of those two.
Or I guess the world might explode.
dan friesen
That's fantastic, and I'm excited for you to enjoy that.
jordan holmes
I will.
dan friesen
I got to say there's a problem with this.
Yeah, I'm not complaining because I really like gummies.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
They're all the same.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you kind of, I think you bet bigger on Haribo than maybe they deserved.
I think what you're looking for is like a novelty jelly bean.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
That's kind of what you're.
dan friesen
But I really don't want one that's like, uh-oh, this one might be charcoal flavored.
So I don't want that.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's part of the game.
dan friesen
I don't want vengeful jelly beans.
jordan holmes
That's part of the game.
The part of the game of the jelly bean is occasionally you'll get one that tastes like a fart.
dan friesen
No, I don't want that.
I want something that might be interesting.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like an interesting flavor that I wouldn't normally go for.
Like, I think I remember I ate a jelly bean that was like grass flavored.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I thought it was good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not surprising.
dan friesen
It's probably a gross flavor, but it was actually pretty good.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I mean, I imagine that there's some sort of freshness to it that should be.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm cool with that.
But don't give me a fart.
Don't give me charcoal.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, there's a big difference between grass and like bathroom toilet, you know?
dan friesen
So I'm also realizing now that I look back that most of my reviews of the cheese were it was fine.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So maybe everything is just fine.
jordan holmes
You're well, I mean, back if we recall the year of this Eltzer, there were plenty of fights.
unidentified
Maybe I'm not an eater.
dan friesen
Maybe I'm not a foodie or a drinky.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a good thing we were sick for the past couple episodes.
That'll cut down our January Advent calendar.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So speaking of that, apologies to folks that we both got sick.
Who could have seen that coming?
You getting sick and then us being in a tight fight space with each other.
jordan holmes
Where I yell directly in your mouth.
dan friesen
Yeah, that caught up caught up with us.
But here we are.
We are back and thrilled to be back.
And we're jumping forward in time a little bit.
Smart.
Because the world is nuts.
jordan holmes
It is moving.
dan friesen
And so we'll talk a little bit about that.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, Toadkiller Dog and the Black Company.
Thank you so much, you're an Iopology Walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, love you all from the Nebraska Kaufholds.
Thank you so much, you're an Iow Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Brie with a kick-ass Milo Thatch costume.
Thank you so much.
You're an Iowa Policy Walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we had a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Bailey the one-eyed horse wants to join the cult of Celine.
And also say to her fellow Swedish fans of the show.
Oh no.
Hej par pair are dead eted.
Oh no.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
Jetalin hat crazy at the Leisner Pa and podcast um on Galen Amarakansk gooby.
unidentified
Goob.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, you're not a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I think that we have to limit words you're making me say in another language to like four.
jordan holmes
Anything, yeah, yeah, less than an eight-word sentence.
dan friesen
When I see a full sentence coming at me in other letters that I can't put together in my brain, I panic.
jordan holmes
I will tell you something.
Sometimes I put them through a little translator and say, hear what they sound like.
Do you know what's crazy?
Sounded exactly like that.
You nailed it 100%.
jim in north carolina
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
What's up, Swedes?
So, Jordan, I've been slow rolling through December.
jim in north carolina
True.
dan friesen
And one of the big reasons for that is that I thought something like overthrowing Venezuela would be a little further off in the future.
I'd wanted to take some real time and marinate in this stretch of time because it's a glaring exercise in a guy trying to get his audience to support a war.
There's obviously an interesting element to that, and it makes that stretch of time something that might be worth re-examining at some point in the future.
But ultimately, I think the point that I wanted to make has been made.
Alex has been trying to create rationalizations for why it's okay to support regime change operations in Venezuela while pretending that it's consistent with what he sold his audience for his whole career.
We've already heard this going on on the show.
We don't really need to beat anyone over the head with it.
So, you know, let's go ahead and get to business.
It is what it is.
Anyway, look, a lot of stuff has happened recently.
jordan holmes
A few things.
dan friesen
If only I had access to an idiot quoting a historical figure to explain the situation we find ourselves in.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
As Lenin said, there are times when years happen in weeks and decades where, you know, the exact quote is: there are decades when nothing happens and weeks where decades happen.
I think I'm conflating it.
Pull the Lenin quote.
dan friesen
So, anyway, we're jumping ahead to January 2nd, the day before we kidnapped Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, and Trump made it a little too obvious that we just want to steal their oil.
jordan holmes
There was a decade in that day.
There was a whole decade in that day.
It took a decade for everybody to admit that Bush just wanted the oil.
We did it in a day.
That was great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I don't think that Trump, like, Bush did a press conference right after invading Iraq where he was like, oil, baby.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nope.
Even his mission accomplished press conference wasn't like, and now we can steal everything.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It feels seedy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a little bit.
I mean, again, I appreciate the loss of ambiguity.
I hated it.
It was always annoying.
And now that it's gone, I live a happier life.
dan friesen
I guess.
So we start on the second.
And the reason we're doing this is because on the third is when news breaks that we have taken Maduro.
jordan holmes
And murdered a bunch of people.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, but most of them were Cubans.
It's fine.
jordan holmes
There you go.
See, it counts.
It doesn't count.
dan friesen
So Alex on the second is really worried about Trump launching some attacks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But against Iran.
alex jones
You noticed about a week and a half ago, Iran declared war on the United States.
That's because they knew the West, U.S. with Israel, was already launching color revolution there.
And now for three days, it's been in full bloom.
Trump came out today and said if they shoot any of the protesters, which they've been doing all over the country, that the United States will come to their aid.
And if Trump says that, he'll do that.
Just like Nigeria.
Just like they're now bombing ports in Venezuela.
Remember last week at Marlago?
Trump's in that NYAON is like, oh, yes, we'll strike them right away if they do anything.
So that is not what we voted for.
I am not for the mullahs.
I am not for them trying to wipe Israel off the map either.
But this is one of the last countries that the West has not toppled over there.
And I'm all for their people doing it, but I really don't think we should have been involved in this.
I think most of you agree with me on that.
dan friesen
So this is the position that Alex is mostly putting forward.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of worry that Israel is going to shoot some protesters as a false flag to make the U.S. attack Iran.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's kind of his preoccupation the day before.
jordan holmes
So close.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So close.
I mean, maybe wrong hemisphere, possible.
Could be wrong circumstances and plan and targets.
Sure.
But other than that, he was really close.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, the fact that there's an attack coming.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, see what I'm saying?
We didn't know that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex believes that Israel is coming out and saying that we need to get rid of the First Amendment in America.
jordan holmes
Can they do that?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, anybody can say that.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's their First Amendment right.
dan friesen
But Alex may be making this up.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Iran says they're at war with us now.
We're going to be getting to all of that coming up.
And now Netanyahu has come out in the last two months.
He did it again last week.
And so there's an eight-front war now, not just fighting the Muslims, but fighting in America to censor people.
And again, everybody knows I don't have a hard-on for Israel.
I don't sit around and go, oh, look, they did something bad again.
Yay.
I don't think it's the center of the universe.
I don't think Israel is the only country that can do evil.
I'm not an apologist for Israel either.
But a lot of the anti-Israel crowd, the Islamicists and the Nazis, and man, I, you know, I mean, they just lie and they're anti-Western and hate me.
So I just call balls and strikes here.
But now Israel and its lobbies are openly calling for the repeal of the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
Ball.
alex jones
I mean, point blank.
And so I posted about this this morning, and immediately I had the Israel worshipers, mainly Christian Zionists, with their brigades, saying, I'm a liar, and Netanyahu doesn't want this, and I'm striking Muslims.
And I'm just stop it.
Just stop.
I mean, if you go look at my feeds on Rumble or X or InfoWars anywhere, I'm literally attacked by all the Nazis.
I'm attacked by the Muslims.
I'm attacked by the Israel First Lunatics.
And all I'm trying to do is just not have a nuclear war.
unidentified
Ball.
alex jones
And Israel has no business saying repeal your First Amendment for your own safety.
Which I have clips of their main cybers are the godfather of their modern system and NSA, the former head of the eight thousand two hundred group.
jordan holmes
Ball, three and one.
alex jones
Literally saying it's time to get rid of the First Amendment.
I mean, just, good lord.
dan friesen
Take a walk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So what happened here is that Alex saw a clip on Twitter of a guy named Shlomo Kramer doing an interview on NBC.
Kramer's the CEO of Cato Networks, and he is there to make the argument that the First Amendment rights need to be limited as it relates to social media because the danger that those spaces pose as vectors for misinformation.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
We're on the cusp of AI being able to create very convincing fake realities that can be spread on social media.
And the implications of that are disastrous when you realize what nefarious actors can do.
robert in chicago
Sure.
dan friesen
The ability of people to just post whatever the fuck they want with no consequences and nothing tracing back to them creates an information ecosystem where nothing is real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, there are ways to say, you know, you could say we're on the cusp of AI being able to do all of these things, or you could say we're on the cusp of moving back into the trees.
And I think both of those things are true.
dan friesen
Sure, it could be.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't necessarily agree with Kramer, but I do think that his concerns are valid.
I don't know if the idea of cracking down on these social media platforms and protecting free speech, I don't know if those are mutually exclusive things.
jordan holmes
Right, I got you.
dan friesen
There's kind of this idea that in order to solve the problem, there needs to be like internet IDs for people.
And I don't know if that's true.
jordan holmes
Right.
I think we all understand the concept that unlimited is probably not going to work out very well.
And that too limited is not going to work out very well.
And there's a correct middle ground and nobody knows exactly where that middle ground is.
And that's kind of where our problem is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The idea of like tracking like everyone's identity online is not really a great idea.
But that doesn't mean that the problem that that would be addressing isn't real also.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
The problem is it feels like every solution is going to hurt more than the problem.
But anytime you try and help, it's really probably not going to help the problem.
dan friesen
Yeah, it sucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
People look at social media like Twitter and Facebook like it's all just about me being able to express my views and get my thoughts out there.
But the truth is they're giant marketplaces where your engagements and data are the main product.
We only think about it in terms of how we're free to post our thoughts because that's the only part of the transaction we're allowed to be a part of.
So when we think about the government regulating social media, it always ends up feeling like they would be regulating what you can or can't post.
There are other methods of regulating that the government could do that would make an impact on how destructive a thing social media is that would still protect the First Amendment, I think.
I'm not sure exactly what those are, but I think there's a possible way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, at the very least, you should be able to go like, hey, you can't like know where everybody is all the time.
That's probably bad for us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's detrimental.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Privacy rights.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Kramer is an Israeli man, but that doesn't mean that he speaks for the Israeli government.
Him doing an interview with CNBC and expressing this position isn't the same as Netanyahu's government saying that they want to get rid of the First Amendment.
And it sort of feels like Alex can't tell the difference.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or more accurately, he's pretending not to be able to tell the difference because that's what works for his content.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
Take one, make it all.
Now you can hate everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And like the connective tissue that he has to like tie it to Netanyahu is a clip of him saying that like we have a war for the hearts and minds of the population.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Yes, there's a PR element to their war.
Yes.
jordan holmes
I mean, if that's what they're doing, one, bad plan on their part, not going to work to achieve the stated goals.
And two, nice catch on your part because it doesn't feel like there's anything there.
dan friesen
So Alex, you know, he's worried about the First Amendment, but he's also worried that maybe his show hasn't been racist enough.
alex jones
I'm going to explain this forever.
But thank God now people are aware of it.
Thank God people are finally getting it.
And the Somalis are a pirate slaver clan.
And they follow the orders of their leaders.
They vote 99% the way they're told.
So they're the worst because the Democrats love working with them because you can stick, even in a medium-sized town, 500 Somalis, and you can run 500, 600 businesses.
One of them can run a dozen businesses and one of them can steal $10, $20 million.
jordan holmes
Is that how that works?
alex jones
And they'll sit there and fill out the forms and do as they're told because they're pirates.
I mean, they follow their boss's orders.
Because in Somalia, they kill you if you don't.
So they're a well-oiled mafia machine, even though on average they have a 70 IQ.
So because they are so hierarchical, they're very effective.
So basically, they're like robot thieves, okay?
And they're perfect.
So that's why they're so effective.
And they're prized.
They're prized creatures by the Democrats.
And in Europe, they're prized by the Labor Party.
In the UK, they've set up nests of them in all the major towns and cities.
And they just, they overperform at stealing.
They just do a fabulous job.
Because they're pirates.
They're the captain now.
dan friesen
They're the captain now.
You couldn't resist.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, you got to do that.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You got to do that.
You know how in like the 19, I don't know, was it 1908, something like that, that World's Fair in Chicago, where they just like captured a bunch of people from different nations and then just like put them in cages.
And then we're like, look at these fantastical monsters from faraway lands.
I was like, ah, thank God that's in the past.
Wrong.
dan friesen
No, Alex thinks that's cutting edge.
jordan holmes
Hugely wrong.
Hugely wrong.
dan friesen
That's an avant-garde ethnic study.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, what are we doing?
That was the craziest.
That was crazy.
Yeah, that was legitimately crazy.
dan friesen
Yep.
He is just, I mean, this is just a hate show.
jordan holmes
That's so specifically hateful.
dan friesen
Yep.
So he tries to pull it back a little bit and he wants to preach to his avant-garde Nazi listeners, maybe some of the people who he thinks he's luring over from Nick Fuentes or whatever, that they shouldn't criticize Israel from a place of hate.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
Now, is Israel the only group influencing us?
No.
The anti-Israel folks have this fetish and only cover what Israel's doing manipulating us.
And when I cover other groups doing it, like the Communist Chinese, I'm coming up for Israel.
No, I'm not a one-trick pony.
And the reason I explain this is not to defend myself.
It's to get those of you out there to become multifaceted a little bit deeper to understand these things.
If you just oppose Israel trying to control our politics and take over our government from some hateful position, then that turns off people that would listen to you and turns off people in Israel that would agree with you.
Instead, just address it as it is and say it's wrong.
And it's dangerous for everybody.
When I criticize the Communist Chinese Party, I don't criticize the Chinese people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you do.
alex jones
See what I'm getting at?
dan friesen
It's a cute idea, but Alex absolutely hates Chinese people and speaks about them in horribly disparaging ways, as he does of all groups that he considers different from himself.
Understood correctly, what Alex is saying is that a lot of his friends are being way too obvious about how their politics is based in hate.
He's lived a lifetime of covering that up and using coded language of political correctness to push for bigot policies while enjoying the camouflage that polite society allows him.
So he could be in Richard Linklater movies and look like a cool weirdo who just loves humany on the street with the bullhorn.
Yeah.
He's begging folks that he wants to profit from to play by the rules that he's needed to follow for his whole career, not realizing that none of them stand to gain anything by doing that.
They don't need to hide their hateful views because you can express toxic shit and still get rich and not have to live in constant fear at this point.
They've made that a reality.
Alex is the one who's trapped and he doesn't seem to understand it.
He's ushered in a media full of neo-Nazis, racists, and hateful creeps of all sorts.
And a lot of them are getting rich and famous.
They aren't going to moderate because that would be career suicide.
And it's going to start looking more and more weird why Alex won't go as far as they do.
The longer this goes on and the more high profile these folks get, the more pressure there will be for Alex to do something.
And there's no good option for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He gets more extreme.
It makes the rest of his career look suspicious.
If he stays moderate, then he's like, why aren't you using slurs?
Why aren't you having fun like the cool fun people?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's it is like you have to make a choice, though.
You just have to do it.
Like, you cannot live in this space because he's full of shit, but he is right whenever he says, like, oh, when I go out on social media, everybody's shitting on me.
Yeah, you suck.
Everybody knows it.
So pick a place to not suck at, I guess.
That's the best you can do.
dan friesen
Well, I think that I think another problem is that he's cultivated an audience that sucks.
jordan holmes
They all suck.
Everybody sucks.
dan friesen
His audience sucks.
And he's lowered the level of discourse in the space that he creates things into.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the standards of what they can say to him very easily is really low.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I did?
I didn't, I knew I would get here, but I'm really missing Brendan.
I'm really missing Chase.
We needed Chase's energy for that specific clip because it started off like I'm trying to give you guys some depth.
And if he had Chase there and he was a little sadder, he could have elevated it.
As it stands, it's just shit.
dan friesen
Alcohol and Chase are the answer.
jordan holmes
They are 100%.
Yeah, don't get more extreme.
Don't get more moderate.
Get drunk and hang out with Chase.
dan friesen
Yeah, now imagine if Alex was saying this while Chase was sitting by, nodding.
alex jones
All right.
To me, this is a litmus test.
Any of the Jewish talk show hosts or anybody out there that support this, in fact, it needs to be put to Ben Shapiro, who is definitely in the pocket of Netanyahu.
I think he is an intelligence asset.
My opinion, how he operates Levin, there's no, I believe they are officially Israeli spies.
Okay.
And I don't hate Israel in and of itself existing.
I do hate people that act like they're Americans and act like they're loyal when everything they do flies in the face of that.
And I believe from action and behavior that Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro are actual intelligence operatives card carrying with Israeli intelligence agencies.
I know the cut of their jib, as you say.
dan friesen
So Alex now has litmus tests for Jewish people in media.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
That's, I mean, you know, sometimes when you hear something, you go, I think I may have heard that before somewhere.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
I may have heard that before somewhere.
How did that go?
Do you remember hearing that before?
dan friesen
It rings a bell somewhere in the faint recesses of my memory from my woke education.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what I love about humans?
Learning.
Generational learning.
It's just so prevalent and there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think he confuses race memory for racist memories.
jordan holmes
Racist memories.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Remembering racist things that have been said elsewhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that sucks.
I mean, like, there's just no way around it.
I get that he's saying that these Jewish American talk show hosts need to be against the repeal of the First Amendment.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Which I'm sure they are.
But the way he's going about expressing this is pretty glaring.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't even know which representation of this exact situation to reference.
dan friesen
So Somali people are robot thieves.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That one's definitely there.
dan friesen
Jewish people to prove their loyalty.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
We're in the garbage.
jordan holmes
It is not going well.
It is hard to imagine being in like 1940s America and hearing about Japanese internment and being like, well, I guess that's just fine.
You know, but then now you're here and you're like, well, I guess that's just fine.
dan friesen
It's insane.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, also, Zoron Momdani is now the mayor of New York.
jordan holmes
Well, I guess no.
That one's good.
dan friesen
Well, not according to Alex.
robert in chicago
Uh-uh-oh.
alex jones
I've read the Quran.
That's got to be like 25 years ago.
And it literally says at the end.
That God comes back and kills everybody.
unidentified
Oh.
alex jones
And we all just die.
So.
jordan holmes
There you have it, folks.
alex jones
I've got Mamdani being sworn in on a Quran.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's cool, man.
jordan holmes
Spoiled the book.
dan friesen
The Quran ends.
But also, like, isn't there just something beautifully stupid about someone saying this is how a holy text ends?
I mean, it's like it's a novel.
jordan holmes
It's a real, it's a real, it's a real page turner.
But then you get to the end and you're like, I don't know if I even liked this book.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Third act problems.
Everyone dies.
jordan holmes
You know, it is.
It's really hard to end things.
It really is.
dan friesen
So Alex is frustrated that Zoran is gotten into office.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Partially, I think, because he doesn't like tenants.
He doesn't like people who rent things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
You've now got Mamdani being sworn in on a Quran.
And then he says, which they'd already announced, we're going to go into all these landlords.
And you know, it's not going to be the globalists.
It's not going to be going after Larry Silverstein.
And if there's a clogged toilet, there's a clogged drain, if something hadn't been fixed, we will seize your property.
And they have those unconstitutional laws in the books in New York.
jordan holmes
And we're just the only place they have them.
alex jones
Democrats all over the country let squatters come in and even rent Airbnbs.
You see it all over the time.
Tens of thousands of cases a month.
And in blue states and blue cities, they'll let you stay there up to a year, sometimes longer.
And you just go rent an Airbnb for three days, and you don't leave for six months.
Or you rent a house, and then you don't leave for two years.
And I know people personally that are friends of mine who are kind of more liberal, not really super liberal, but yeah, you know, and they've had people squatting in their houses for years.
dan friesen
I imagine that if Alex were forced to give an example of someone who he knows who's had someone squatting in their home for years, it would end up being some asshole that he knows who's going through an ugly divorce and it's like his ex-wife.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, 100%.
dan friesen
This is all very dumb, but I guess Alex's hero comes from the New York City slumlord class.
So it makes sense that he would want to come to their defense in this about Momdani's actions.
So on his first day in office, Momdani placed increased focus on the office to protect tenants and signed two executive orders that created housing task forces.
The first is the Lyft Task Force or the Land Inventory Fast Track.
This group is charged with reviewing city-owned property and identifying places that would be good to build affordable housing.
The second is the speed tax force, or streamlining procedures to expedite equitable development, which is tasked with reviewing regulatory pressures that could be removed to expand the supply of housing available and the matching of that housing with people who need it.
In theory, Alex should be in favor of the second one because it's about cutting through the red tape.
But it's important to keep in mind that all these ideas about his favored policies, it's all role-playing for him.
It does not matter.
jordan holmes
It's coming from a man who is evil.
So it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And truth is negotiable.
jordan holmes
And it's also not explicitly in favor of the landlords.
So even if it was just neutral, he'd be like, I hate it.
dan friesen
Weird pull on Larry Silverstein, though.
jordan holmes
It is strange to rip that one out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He only has ever come up as the guy who owned the Twin Towers on 9-11.
I mean, that's, I didn't even know if he was still alive.
jordan holmes
There is a claim to fame, though.
It's hard not.
It's hard to.
Infamy and fame are still, you know, identical in a lot of ways.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know exactly.
That's almost more like a tidbit.
You know, or like a fun fact.
dan friesen
I think it was more of a anti-Semitic spasm.
jordan holmes
Sure, there's no.
There's definitely that.
I bet maybe in like 100 years, whenever it's on a quiz or something, like, who owned the Twin Towers?
What they thought.
Why would you put that on a quiz?
What Jeopardy show is doing that, man?
dan friesen
The Patriot one.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy, I'm scared of Patriot Jeopardy.
dan friesen
So, you know, food is expensive.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And part of the reason is because Black Lives Matter have been blowing up grocery stores.
jordan holmes
That can't be true.
dan friesen
Because the Globalists told them to do it.
jordan holmes
I really don't think so.
alex jones
And now in Chicago and in New York, they're saying, you know, food's too much.
We're going to have government-sponsored grocery stores which subsidize food, Mamdani has said, where the taxpayer pays for it.
And it goes beyond the food stamps where they then just basically give you the food because they've cut the police and allowed BLM to burn down the other grocery stores.
jordan holmes
Sounds true?
alex jones
It's about getting rid of free market, getting rid of competition, creating Clard and Piven, collapsing the economy, collapsing the society, so that all that is left is the state.
This is a classical formula.
dan friesen
If you're following along, grocery prices are high because the globalists got rid of the police and Black Lives Matter paid people to burn down grocery stores.
Or maybe that wasn't meant to be the explanation for high grocery prices.
It was just Alex's fantasy of what would happen if government subsidized grocery stores existed.
They'd have a government food place and then all the other food places would get run out of business, so we had to go to their food place.
Makes sense.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The issue is that this whole publicly subsidized grocery stores thing already kind of exists, and Alex's fantasies haven't come true.
In many rural areas, public assistance is required to maintain grocery stores, but Alex doesn't seem to care too much about that.
Like the USDA runs a program called the Healthy Foods Financing Initiative that provides financial and technical assistance to vendors, along with another program called the Local Food Purchase Assistance Cooperative Agreement Program.
These and other such programs exist in order to strengthen the supply chain and help make it possible for a food seller to sell food even when it wouldn't be profitable for them to sell food otherwise.
For some reason, this isn't a major problem, but Alex sees it as the end of the world, like if this assistance and simplicity were just passed along to the consumers.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
It's bullshit, and he sounds like a child.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it is a core tenant, though.
And one of the powers of the right wing that they have exercised perfectly, which is to overreact to anything that if people do recognize helps them and they like, will lead to more of that thing.
Yes.
You know, so like the idea of people eating has to be something that all people on the right hate because eventually people go, I like eating.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Let's do more of things like I get to eat.
dan friesen
You will immediately die if those people eat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
100%.
dan friesen
Also, at the end of that clip, though, I wanted to bring real sharp focus to this.
Alex does one of my favorite things.
alex jones
This is a classical formulae.
dan friesen
He's desperate to sound smart.
So he compulsively mispronounces words in a way that makes him sound like he's educated.
Formulae sounds like a thing a really smart person would say because we all say formula, but he must be talking about something more complicated than what us dumb people know about.
Dumb formulas.
There's a formula one that's a race thing.
That's pedestrian.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The issue is that formulae is just the plural of formula.
jordan holmes
I was going to say.
dan friesen
Alex is saying formulae because he wants the audience to hear him and think that he knows Latin.
But the irony is that this choice of words only proves that he doesn't.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah, I mean, he's trying to say because I add an E on there, I'm smarter than you.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
But that's like trying to say that you're smart because you add an S on something.
That's not, you're just saying formulas.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just, I just can't get enough of when Alex does shit like that.
Yeah.
That just tickles me.
jordan holmes
Your inner pedance does come out.
Yes.
Yeah.
You've got, you find a lot of guilt in your pedantry because regular people don't deserve it to find an outlet where it can be full force.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And there were like six or seven things that are consistent.
He does this one consistently.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's definitely.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
It is annoying.
And yeah.
dan friesen
So with this next clip, Alex is pretty clear that he is all about white people.
jordan holmes
Ah.
alex jones
Then I've got more clips of him with all these people in different languages and different Muslim languages dancing and chanting and person after person saying, you know, finally the reign of the evil white people has come to an end.
The point is, is that they've taught all these groups they brought in to be anti-white.
And when whites finally go, okay, we have an entity.
We're going to stand up to you.
Well, then we're the bad people.
This is the clash of civilizations that's been planned.
Let's go to a couple of these Mondani clips.
Here he is being sworn on the Quran.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
What's white to you then?
Right.
Let's get real down to first principles here.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you're going to do this, then just go full Nazi.
Yeah, this is this is but don't don't tell other Nazis to be like, hey, pull it back a little bit and then be like, yeah, but you know, everybody I don't like is a cockroach who should die like.
Like, just fucking be a Nazi.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
It's kind of dumb.
jordan holmes
Because you are a Nazi.
Yes.
All you need to do is just say it.
Just fucking Stefan Molyneux white nationalism.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it needs to be over and done with.
And I think that maybe this next clip is him desperately trying to do that.
Because I got to give him a little credit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There were a lot of people who were saying that Zoran Momdani did a little bit of a Nazi salute at his inauguration.
jordan holmes
Mamdani did a Nazi salute.
unidentified
He didn't.
jordan holmes
He didn't.
dan friesen
No.
Okay.
But a lot of people on Twitter were putting the clip of Musk doing that very explicit Nazi salute.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then playing it next to Mamdani doing a little wave, which only illustrated how dissimilar the gestures they were making off.
jordan holmes
How much Musk was making a Nazi salute.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And when I say I have to give Alex a little credit, that's about this.
He's not falling into that trap.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's not accusing Mamdani of doing a Hitler salute.
jordan holmes
It would be a weird thing for Mamdani to do.
dan friesen
No.
It would be fine if he did.
Sure.
alex jones
And Mamdani did the natural human salute where you touched your heart and then embraced out and put your hand out.
Why do you think the Romans 2,400 years ago started that salute?
In fact, go to me.
And the left will take this and say, I did this because I love Hitler because it's their deceptive.
jordan holmes
Oh, are we doing this?
Please talk about me, baby.
Please talk about me.
Please tell people I'm doing a Hitler salute.
Please.
alex jones
From my heart to you reaching the handout.
dan friesen
He holds the salute for a while.
jordan holmes
I, of course, he does.
alex jones
You got the Roman handshake, too, where they don't grab the hand, they grab the forearm.
jordan holmes
Digression.
alex jones
Mussolini copied that.
Hitler copied that.
But it doesn't mean that salute belongs to Hitler.
Just like people go to India.
It's been all the news and they go to these 3,000-year-old temples and demand it be taken down because they got swastikas.
It's a sun symbol.
Let me show people.
I know most of you know this.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So now he starts doodling swastika.
alex jones
That's like a course taking over the rainbow or pedophilia.
The rainbow is beautiful.
God says they're promised in the first book of the Bible.
This is a sun symbol.
jordan holmes
How does that first book end?
alex jones
And every culture, from the Aztecs, the Indians, the Norse, all had it.
unidentified
Okay?
alex jones
This is seen as a positive one going clockwise.
And you've got the negative one.
The point is, there's different types of it.
Like, everybody thinks the peace symbol is actually, this is the rune under Germanic culture and under the Viking cultures of a tree, a tree that's alive, the arms are up.
That's the rune of life.
This is the rune of death.
And yes, the Big Dipper, the fall, the winter, it's a swastika.
That's why they have that symbol.
So, but every time I do this, and I'll do it again, because I don't care.
I'm not going to control what I do because they're going to lie misrepresent.
jordan holmes
He's doing the high hand.
alex jones
This is from my heart to all of you reaching out to you and humanity.
Just because Hitler did that, it doesn't belong to him.
jordan holmes
Did we stumble into somebody getting high and discovering that everything agreed upon is arbitrary?
Or is somebody just really desperate for people to tell other people that he's doing the Hitler salute?
dan friesen
Boy, it's very obviously the second one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, feels like that.
Feels like that.
Feels a lot like I really, really want attention, please.
dan friesen
I need to pop a rating.
Please.
Please.
This is in the business and wrestling what you might call cheapie.
jordan holmes
It does feel a little bit.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is the equivalent.
You couldn't really respect someone who comes out and like shits on the local sports team because everyone's begging people to boo.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is hacky.
jordan holmes
If I'm listening to somebody ask you to support the troops at the end of their set, I know what they're looking for.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, this leads to deconstruction on Alex's part about how symbols are about intention.
jordan holmes
Did he really do?
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Because he's a teacher and he's really giving us some truths.
jordan holmes
Brendan.
alex jones
It's the intent of a symbol, ladies and gentlemen.
Like people have seen the governor of Texas.
It's happened to the last few governors do this.
And every time I do it, people take the screenshot and go, look, Jones is, I'm going to say such bad off rush.
My hand being broken.
I can't even do this now.
Wow, I'm getting old, man.
Look at that.
I can't even do it.
There we go.
Few too many fights, folks.
Wow.
Usually like that.
Sorry.
I'm like Roy Batty and Blade Runner, man.
I'm count down here.
At least his arms like 80 years old.
Even do it anymore.
Good lord.
I can do it with this man.
They will show governors going, look, they're Satanists.
No, this means I love you.
And it also means hook them horns for Bevo.
But if you're a Satanist doing it, then it does mean you're a Satanist.
So it's always wearing a pentagram shirt and doing it.
Well, then you know what they mean by it.
And I know you all know this.
jordan holmes
Unless they don't.
alex jones
I know you all understand this.
But just know when the left tries this crap with you, it's so stupid.
dan friesen
Alex is totally correct.
Symbols are about intent.
But let's not pretend he's so stupid as to not understand the other layer of this.
Symbols have a meaning that you can understand if you know the symbol.
But if you don't know what the symbol means, it could have an entirely different meaning.
It's like with language.
Words have a meaning, but inside some in-groups, certain words take on different meanings that communicate something to members of that group.
For instance, the word noticing can just mean that you're making note of a particular thing.
But to a group of neo-Nazi types, that word is code.
Being an adult and navigating the world means that you kind of have to understand that something like the word noticing can be neo-Nazi code, or it cannot be.
You can't just attack anyone who uses that word, but you also can't ignore someone winking at you when they say it about a Jewish person.
Symbols are about the intent with which they're used, which is why dog whistling exists.
At a certain point, you have to assess the information that's presented to you.
Alex's worldview is basically just sloppy, rewritten Nazi propaganda that his dad passed on to him from Cold War diehards.
A couple months ago, he shaved a Hitler mustache on his face because his Nazi friend was getting too much attention from Tucker, and Alex was getting jealous.
Now he's spent a fair amount of time discussing how the Hitler salute isn't so bad, partially his cover for him to do the salute, hoping to bait media into covering him doing it so he can play the victim.
Also, on this same show, he demanded that Jewish Americans and the media should be subject to loyalty tests.
So maybe the intent of his symbols are as clear as they fucking need to be.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is garbage.
He's obviously trying to get attention, but come on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know how to like, it's almost a postmodern style of Nazism.
You know, like this winking Andy Warhol recursive Nazism where it's like, I know I'm a Nazi and you know I'm a Nazi.
Let me explain to you how not to be a Nazi within them telling you how to be a Nazi.
dan friesen
Yeah, the problem is that Alex isn't good at it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's good at the political correct language obscuring kind of bullshit version that existed from the 90s into the 2000s.
The youth are way better at this postmodern version that you're talking about.
He sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're living in like the color of money.
Like he's Paul Newman.
Buddy, either you fucking get rid of Tom Cruise and you start your own game or you're done.
You're just an old man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's too late.
dan friesen
You're, you're, I mean, the only metaphor I can come up with like right on the spot is like, you're a radio guy on TV.
matt bracken
Yep.
dan friesen
In the era of, but it's not even TV.
It's like three generations removed.
Yep.
You're a radio guy on space-beamed mind shows.
jordan holmes
Video killed the radio star.
Whatever killed you is from a goddamn future far, far away from here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we need a break.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
We need to take a little break.
jordan holmes
A little Nazi break.
dan friesen
Yep.
So let's talk about Dio.
jordan holmes
Ronnie James, Dio?
alex jones
That's the guy.
Wow.
And every time I do the Bevo explaining, the people that claim they're the right-wingers are the Patriots.
Look, Jones did it again.
He admitted he's a Satanist.
No, I showed you.
And by the way, I actually looked the symbol up decades ago.
I actually learned about this like an MTV interview 40 years ago.
And I looked it up once the internet got going.
It was true.
Ronnie James Dio was like explaining, look, I didn't popularize this for Satan worship.
My grandmother, you know, had been born in Italy.
You find the interviews.
And in Italy, you'd ward off Satan with this.
You ward off the evil eye and say a prayer to Mary or whatever, and then ward off the devil.
Yeah, there he is saying it.
So he said, I didn't even mean it like that, but then it got picked up as a sign of the devil because he basically was into all that stuff.
He said, covering it all, looking at all angles on it.
I mean, no doubt he was in the occult.
He admitted that, but he wasn't a devil worshiper in his words.
The point was, is that he was actually saying what it was.
jordan holmes
What was the point?
dan friesen
It's weird how accurate Alex is about Dio and how wrong he is about pretty much everything else.
Dio did say that his grandmother introduced him to that symbol as a child and that it was meant to ward off evil spirits.
But also, Rodney James Dio isn't a great source of accurate information.
Dio took over for Ozzy Osborne as the lead singer of Black Sabbath in 1979.
And Sabbath bassist Geezer Butler has been pretty public about how he was doing the devil horns gesture for years by that point.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Ozzy had this thing where he would do a peace sign at the audience, and Dio didn't want to just copy him.
So he asked Butler for some tips, and Butler passed on the horns, which Dio went on to popularize within pop culture.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's only so many things you can do with five fingers and the bones that we have.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a lot of bones.
jordan holmes
There are limited combinations of which fingers can be up.
Most of them have no visual aesthetic to them.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
So you're kind of limited to like four things that you can do.
dan friesen
Yeah, the peace and the horns are like you're halfway.
jordan holmes
Easy peasy.
Yeah, exactly.
That's where you're at.
dan friesen
Neither of these dudes fucking came up with this symbol, and the devil didn't.
If the devil has like some power that is conveyed through hand signals, we got a fucking shitty.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think we all know that the devil created the double finger guns.
That's what the devil symbol is.
Because anytime.
dan friesen
You talk about the super finger.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Anytime something bad happens and somebody gives you the double finger guns, that's the devil.
You know it.
dan friesen
Do they have to do the click?
jordan holmes
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The devil doesn't speak English.
dan friesen
Do you remember the superfinger?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I think it was a Dane Cook.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
The super finger.
But up three fingers instead of just the middle finger.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Oh, wow.
That's a bad bit.
dan friesen
I seem to recall that.
Anyway, Alex goes to some calls.
Yeah.
And he gets a caller who's like, hey, man, you know, the Jewish people like to censor things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is like, yep.
jason in new mexico
Thank you for taking my call, Mr. Jones.
Well, I would say, you know, speaking of the Israeli government talking about limiting our First Amendment, that Pharisee censorship is nothing new.
And in today's world, it's labeled anti-Semitism, right?
So the First Amendment allows us to say Jesus is Lord.
And I don't want to get into the philosophical debate of it, but we all know that Islam is the attack force of the Pharisees.
If you think about Albert Pike's letter to wipe out Christianity or the supposed letter, but I just want to say that.
alex jones
Well, it's not just that.
I could play you 100 rabbis.
And I'm not saying it's the majority of it of Judaism is a lot of them.
They talk about how their work, how they support Islam in the clash against Christianity to take down the West.
dan friesen
Man, not good.
jordan holmes
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
Not good.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
Why would anyone believe any of this?
dan friesen
I think it's pretty easy if you're getting a call from somebody and they're talking about Pharisee censorship.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think you might just be able to move along.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe don't explicitly sign off on whatever that person's selling you.
jordan holmes
You've told me everything I need to know.
So, I want to add this.
All the rabbis agree with a whole most of them.
dan friesen
All the ones that I see posted on Nazi websites.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying you should do it on site, but I'm not saying that you couldn't.
dan friesen
So, Alex moves on from this caller and starts discussing how he needs money because shit's bad.
But also, maybe he's about to win everything and Infowars is safe.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
alex jones
I'm not going to belabor this.
It must be very short and sweet.
We got about a $400 underage projected out into March on what we were bringing in.
Meaning, each month, you know, $100,000,000 less than we needed to operate.
But because of you guys, we have already cut that deficit down and we are caught up right now, as of this morning, meeting with the accountants with about $50,000 extra for what we currently need for the pay period.
Now, the funny part is the left wants this money or wants to shut down.
There's nothing there.
Like, God sends in just enough to keep us on air.
But we do have another couple hundred thousand dollars we got to get extra into March because you saw the Democrats, the Justice Department coming to my bankruptcy, do a fake sale, try to take it over with Michael Bloomberg and the Onion.
The judge shut that down, and there was a criminal investigation started by the feds into their activities.
So the judge got upset.
He wasn't involved from our evidence, but he kicked it out of federal court into state court with the purple-haired Antifa judge at the fake show trial.
And then she announced, okay, we're shutting it down three months ago.
I'm sending in the sheriffs.
She signed the order, but then they didn't come.
And I've not been written in on it, but I know there's a Justice Department investigation.
You've seen it in the news.
Well, some stuff went on.
I haven't been told, but let's just say they're not happy.
Okay.
So I know this.
People have gotten visits.
They know about our racketeering suit, our conspiracy against rights suit.
They've asked us not to file that at this point.
And there's a bunch of movement.
And who knows, Infowars could get saved.
dan friesen
All of that is made up, except for the part that Alex needs money.
For one thing, if you take anything Alex says seriously, he filed those lawsuits long ago.
And the globalists are just refusing to cover them because the media is so controlled.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
He's either lying now or back then, or most likely both.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But if I'm supposed to believe this, then I have to accept that Alex Jones, the greatest champion of the Bill of Rights in human history, had his fundamental rights violated by the state, which led to a years-long court battle and a complete character assassination.
He has every right to sue to be made whole again and have his day in court, but he's deciding not to because someone in the Justice Department told him not to.
They just asked nice.
I'm supposed to believe that patriot ass Alex Jones is willingly suppressing his right to stand up for his own rights because someone in the federal government asked him not to.
That does not make sense.
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if what he's saying is about the order, because I'm fairly certain that it was supposed to, the judge was like, hey, seriously, we got to shut this shit down, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, no, there was nothing barring it from happening.
Right.
I don't believe that, I don't think the order was exactly for like seize.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's just that it all could be seized.
Sure.
If the families and plaintiffs make that motion.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
And if, but if they're not doing that, then maybe Alex is being helped by somebody in the Justice Department.
dan friesen
Well, look, I don't know.
I don't know.
And I have no ability to speak to any of that because I'm as confused by the non-action as anybody.
I look at this and I'm like, what the fuck?
Like, what are the impediments?
jordan holmes
Oh, no, I've stopped being confused a long time ago.
Sure.
dan friesen
Well, here's the clarification I would make on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I stop being confused, but I'm confused about what's specific.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, I don't know the explanation, but I'm no longer all that confused by the fact that this foot doesn't come down on his neck.
But, like, I don't think, I don't think that anyone in the Justice Department needs to be blocking that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And at the same time, what he's saying is that the Justice Department told him not to file his lawsuits.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So, like, I just don't buy that.
jordan holmes
See, that's the thing.
I don't think any of this is true.
But if what he's saying has a kernel of truth to it, then the only thing I could think of that could be true from this distillation would be that that guy he knows near the Justice Department.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Was like, don't do these kind of annoy people things that put us into court and let us do stuff where we're not in court.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know, and the fact that there was like what appeared to be the beginnings of a harassment campaign.
There was intimidation on the part of Ed Martin Torrey.
jordan holmes
He has connections.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It doesn't mean that there's any actual process that's going on, but it could be like people could be scared.
jordan holmes
Sure, no.
And I mean, I would absolutely accept as somebody who is near the department going like, don't file these frivolous, dumb lawsuits.
You're going to lose, idiot.
As him being like, the federal government has warned me not to, you know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Or Ivan Rakeland telling him or some dumbs.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
He thinks that like Patrick Byrne coming in is like the CIA giving Intel.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So yeah, it doesn't mean anything is really bad.
dan friesen
No, but it, ah, mens Raya.
It speaks to the state of mind that Alex has.
jordan holmes
Right.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
I don't care what's real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If the federal government could ask him to not file a violation of my rights lawsuit, he can't be him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That doesn't work.
jordan holmes
You couldn't.
By definition, you would have to all of a sudden be like, well, whatever it was that I was doing is now just being mad at you for saying that.
dan friesen
Hey, guess what?
You fell right into my trap.
You're trying to give me sugar.
You're going to stand up for my rights.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I'm going to do more of that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway, let's go back to some calls.
All right.
jordan holmes
Well, his listeners are really on it so far.
dan friesen
And this guy, he gets it.
jordan holmes
Okay, great.
dan friesen
He's from Chicago.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Robert, are we exploding?
Go ahead.
You're only here worldwide.
jordan holmes
Hello?
alex jones
Yeah, sure.
unidentified
Go ahead.
robert in chicago
Hey, Alex.
We spoke a few times before.
I hope all is well.
And I know life's crazy right now.
In Chicago, I guess the previous person was going to talk something about this.
I'll bring this up as well.
A Muslim invasion is kind of an understatement.
They've been doing this for a while.
And things that have been going on in Minnesota, I've seen firsthand, not just in Chicago, but an entire community when I was living in Washington.
That was actually the last time I talked to you on the phone when I was living in Washington.
I moved back here to help take care of my mom.
And it's a completely different place.
It's a third world country.
There's people with posters in their apartments saying hands off Chicago.
You know, like there's, I'm the most uncomfortable I've ever felt.
I am statistically a minority now, completely here.
It's pretty wild.
The homosexual.
I don't mean to go deep into that, but there are, I'm not even, I'm a minority within the white community, even, if there is one, considered in the city of Chicago, not the outskirts or the city of Chicago, not white enough.
jordan holmes
Newsflash.
alex jones
Well, it's certainly getting more intense, and you can see the footage all over Europe, all over where all the city centers are nothing but Muslims.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Okay, cool.
Shut up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I took a walk in Andersonville, and I guess the whole world's going to end.
jason in new mexico
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I live on Halstead, and get the fuck out of here.
Addison and Halstead, and I think that the city's too gay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
jason in new mexico
Okay.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's terrible.
I mean, what kind of fucking asshole?
What kind of ass in Chicago?
The idea of you being like, oh, I'm a minority.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
I chose the wrong cross street.
I should have chose Cornelia.
I realize that Addison is too close to the stadium.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Halstead and Cornelia.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, look, dude, shut the fuck up.
jordan holmes
Well, now the stadium.
What are we doing?
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
So, look, I don't know what this guy is on.
I don't know what he's dealing with, and I think he should go out more.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, he tries to get Alex to give him a job, and Alex is like, we're broke.
Yeah.
So this caller is negative on Trump.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And they start to get to talking about how maybe it's time for civil disobedience.
jordan holmes
Okay.
jim in north carolina
I've been watching for a year, and, you know, I see this whole Bondi and Patel and Bongino doing absolutely nothing.
You know, I see Real ID getting rolled out.
I see all these things he campaigned against, and nothing is happening.
I'll give him a pass on his first administration.
Maybe he didn't know, you know, if he was being sabotaged behind his back, but now I'm not giving him that break anymore.
alex jones
Well, I'll tell you this: the big challenge: where are the indictments?
Where are the indictments?
jim in north carolina
Exactly.
Right?
Where are they?
He's let Bondi sit up there for a year doing absolutely nothing but polishing her fingernails.
Where are the indictments?
I don't think they're coming.
I think we have to look at a post-MAGA movement.
It's not going to be done through the ballot box.
It's just not.
It's two rigged.
There's no voter, you know, no new laws to around.
alex jones
I'm starting to think it's time for Americans, and I mean white, black, Hispanic that are red, white, and blue, at a certain point, civil disobedience.
And I mean, don't comply with any of the laws.
I mean, that are civil.
We don't go out and rob and steal and kill and sign up for fake welfare, but people just stop paying their taxes.
We stop complying.
We stop doing anything.
We don't support any leftist groups.
We don't talk to leftists.
We don't go in their businesses.
I think people hang up at their businesses, you know, an American flag with something like America only or something.
And then we just totally, we totally have an exodus from their system now.
I think that's really it.
We have to become completely hardcore.
jim in north carolina
100%.
dan friesen
Innovative ideas.
jordan holmes
Here's what we do: we build separate water fountains.
No one's ever tried this before.
dan friesen
Americans only.
jordan holmes
Americans only.
Obviously, I mean, it's not racial anymore.
It's just that Americans are going to be white and non-Americans are going to be everybody else, including white liberals.
unidentified
Well, you got to be red, white, and blue, baby.
jordan holmes
I mean, I suppose that one of those is the skin color they're fine with.
unidentified
Racism is just, you know, civil disobedience.
jordan holmes
Also, if you're them, you can't go back.
Civil disobedience is a step backwards.
You guys, January 6th, now you got to step it up.
The law of escalation is what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
You played yourself.
jordan holmes
Thor is not going to go back and fight like a lonely guy in the middle southwest or whatever.
Now we're in space.
There's no going back.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We've already seen you storm the Capitol.
Yeah.
I think we'll respect.
jordan holmes
Hold up or shut up.
dan friesen
We'll respect a sit-in.
jordan holmes
If you, yeah, I wouldn't respect a sit-in.
dan friesen
I would mind my business and I wouldn't bother him.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah, even if Alex was yelling in a store or something like that and just being like, you know, peaceful non-resistance or whatever because he feels oppressed for being white.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, it's annoying as shit.
But just check out and leave.
jordan holmes
You know what you do?
Here's what I say you do to the Nazis listening.
I'm sure there are so many.
Burn down the White House as a, like, like the way that a Buddhist monk would self-immolate in Vietnam.
Burn down the White House.
Show everybody that white people are under attack by burning down the White House.
That's what I think they should do.
dan friesen
It seems like Trump is kind of working on that.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, we already knocked down part of it.
jordan holmes
Literalize it.
dan friesen
So I also think that there's some real loaded language going on here.
When this caller says that we're not going to get it done through the ballot box, this is an obvious reference to the Patriot expression.
It's through the ballot box or the bullet box.
You know, the ammo box.
So when he says there's not going to be a way to do it through the ballot box, he's not talking about like, hey, let's not shop at Amazon.
robert in chicago
Right.
dan friesen
He's talking about shooting people.
jordan holmes
You should have to, I mean, listen, now that we are where we are, that used to be extreme thing.
Now you should have to back it up.
Like, what's your fucking plan?
In what world are guns going to help you?
Right?
Like, that's not going to help in this situation.
dan friesen
I think it can hurt.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And I think for people like them, a lot of times hurting feels like helping.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That is a fair point.
dan friesen
So Alex is saying, like, we need to get these American-only businesses.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't know if he's clear enough about whether that means whites only.
alex jones
Well, that's right.
We're under attack.
They've told us we're under attack.
We have to, and this is what happened to the black community.
Under Jim Crow, that was terrible and wrong.
But that was what makes you stronger.
Look at the numbers.
Blacks had lower illegitimacy than even whites, like something like 5%.
They own their own.
Hotels, doctors, clothiers, stores, everything.
And the left got mad.
There's articles written about it and said, oh, we'll just put the women on wheelchairs and kick the man out.
And look what it did.
So we're being put on reservations as conservatives, Christians, and whites and others.
I say we embrace it and do what Lewis Faircon says blacks should be doing.
And we just say, fine, we'll have our own banks, our own, all these whites that want to run to the countryside and hide.
And I don't ask anybody else who wants to run from this.
That's not going to work.
No, you got to create your own businesses, your own banks, showing everything.
And other people are welcome to use them.
The point is, is that we all know those are businesses that are pro-America.
And that's really the model.
I'm serious.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know you're serious.
You're fucking serious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem clear what he means exactly, like what his Here's what's crazy about this.
jordan holmes
And again, what's so weird is how often that I keep hearing similar things as from the past.
Because it's like, if they did that, right, and then other people were like, okay, you can do that.
And then other people built successful flourishing businesses while theirs floundered, they wouldn't go, ah, we have lost in the marketplace of ideas.
No, they wouldn't burn down every fucking buddy else's shit so they can have it because these people are psychopaths.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This kind of played out exactly that way in the story that Alex is telling.
jordan holmes
Yep.
The literal exact story.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Great.
jordan holmes
Doing great.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex takes another call.
And they're on the same page that it's time for plan B.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because Trump is not working.
jim in north carolina
Well, no, my point is, we're all just going to have to stand up and do it.
It's not going to come from our ballot box.
Our officials are too corrupted.
They're too compromised.
And they're not fighting for us.
unidentified
It's obvious.
jim in north carolina
So we've got to figure out plan B.
I don't know what that is, but we've got to figure out.
alex jones
Well, that's what Flynn and I's main conversation was about for him on here: plan B.
I mean, we have to start planning plan B because, you know, Trump didn't do this.
We brought him in, and he's doing a lot of good overall, but it's not good enough.
I agree.
We got to start planning plan B. Great points.
dan friesen
Yeah, as we got to start planning shooting people in the streets.
jordan holmes
Their plan B's are always so great because it's impossible for them to do the one plan B that would make any sense, which is just like, hey, maybe we should just set it down for a second and talk to the other guys and get rid of Trump and then pick it back up.
Then we'll just do it.
None of them say that.
None of them have ever said that.
dan friesen
I think fundamentally one of the problems is that folks like Alex don't really have a plan A.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And they're kind of lying about what they want.
Yeah.
And everything changes from day to day.
Pretty much no continuity.
So plan B means nothing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because tomorrow, you're not going to give a fuck about any of this stuff.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Tomorrow, Maduro is going to be kidnapped.
jordan holmes
Not just that.
Trump is going to be the greatest again.
It's so crazy.
It's so crazy how quickly it happens.
dan friesen
There is no way that Trump is not getting it done.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
We need a plan B.
Well, flash forward, everything's great.
jordan holmes
Everybody is killing it right now.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, literally.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on this episode, and it's a guest who I wouldn't call him the angel of death, but I do think that his presence is ominous.
He is the fella who talked about how they needed to storm the Capitol a little bit before January 6th and then had to disappear from Alex's show for a little while.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's a guy who likes to write books about how a race war is coming.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Fella named Matt Bracken.
alex jones
The balance of the hour, the great Matt Bracken, former Navy SEAL, best-selling author, great researcher, countertornism expert, enemiesforeign and domestic.com.
We can go wherever you want first.
The great awakening to the Somali fraud.
The Democrats obviously use him as magma.
The Russia-Ukraine situation.
Trump's saying if there's any dead protesters, we're going to start hitting non-nuclear sites, total war with Iran, Venezuela, the domestic operations.
You can go anywhere you want.
Matt Bracken, my old friend.
So much to pick your brain about today.
matt bracken
I'll tell you what, Alex, this the last couple of weeks, I'm feeling like 2025, as crazy as it was.
2025 was just like the Romans or medieval times cranking up a catapult.
They've just been cranking that catapult back.
You know, it's creaking.
You're wondering when it's going to just go off.
Because I feel like 2026 is the catapult energy release.
Everything we've seen in the last year has just been setting us up.
We're on the cusp of war in so many places.
dan friesen
Yeah, one specifically.
Tomorrow.
So I don't think that Matt Bracken knows anything.
I just think that he talks hard shit.
And Alex sometimes is in the mood for hard shit to be talked.
And coincidentally, he ends up being on the show near monumentous events and saying hard shit.
jordan holmes
I mean, Bracken does engage in stick talk.
That's definitely true.
That is definitely true.
Yeah.
dan friesen
His website is called Enemies Foreign and Domestic.
Less emphasis on the domestic part these days.
jordan holmes
Do you want to know what my biggest pet peeve is now in 2026?
How is it possible?
It's 2026.
We were all trapped inside for years.
How is it possible for so many people who do regular media appearances to not have at least a moderately okay microphone?
dan friesen
Because I don't think Matt Bracken does a lot of media appearances.
jordan holmes
He doesn't do a lot of media appearances.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
I think he's squarely in the weirdo on a webcam territory.
I don't think CNN's given him a call.
I don't think he's ever.
Sure.
Let's say he's never had to put on a log.
jordan holmes
Of all the things that this man can't do, it's go to the fucking guitar center and get a $150 microphone?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Get a microphone, man.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Fucking do it.
dan friesen
$150 for a microphone or a couple more bullets.
jordan holmes
That's the problem with bullets.
They're so fucking expensive, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's microphones or bullets.
dan friesen
You always need more.
It's a sound investment.
jordan holmes
And if you buy a microphone, that's less metal to make more bullets.
So really, you're making other bullets more expensive by buying a microphone.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, economics.
I get it.
It's how economics works.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So the two of them are talking, and they're very clearly thinking that Trump is going to attack Iran.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Geniuses.
dan friesen
Kind of think that attacking Venezuela would be falling into a trap.
alex jones
Bad idea?
jordan holmes
Hmm.
alex jones
Well, listen, Matt Bracken knows what he's talking about.
And Trump's absolutely right to get us out of these wars and focus on our economy, but he's being lured in.
I'm no fan of Venezuela, but it's still a trap.
And Iran, no fan of them, but it's still a trap.
And conventionally, everything Matt's saying is true.
Israel hopes to get us and our ships burning to have the U.S. get pissed and go to full commitment.
And we start obliterating Iran, then Russia's probably going to come in.
China, they got all sorts of secret stuff.
They do have real sleeper cells across the West.
It goes from bad to worse.
dan friesen
Okay.
So I think one of the things that I want to just stress is Alex has no fucking idea what's coming.
Yeah.
It's not even like he's playing some cards close to the vest.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has no idea.
It's funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's wild.
It's wild to know that those two days can't be so close to each other.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, that dividing line between when one reality was and when the new reality began is very strange.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Matt Bracken, he's got some complaints.
jordan holmes
Does he?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I imagine so.
dan friesen
He does not like pirate thieves robots.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen, if real, I would totally respect that that would be a thing to, I wouldn't like pirate robots either.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But they are not real.
dan friesen
So he complains about Somali folks in Minneapolis for a bit.
matt bracken
And it's a complete circular kickback fraud.
Bring in 100,000 Somalis, drop them straight into the capital of a Scandinavian state, and the red-green alliance means they Democrats win forever because the Somalis will vote as a block 100%.
They get the money for the bogus daycare centers and health care centers that don't ever open, that have cobwebs on the door.
They get millions.
They kick it back to the Democrats.
That's what's going on.
Our tax money is enriching Somali pirates who then kick half of it back to the Democrats to stay in power.
And Trump is talking about going to war in Venezuela, going to war in Iran.
I think he's lost his mind.
I mean, every time I see the White House, there's more gold on the walls.
alex jones
No, I agree.
It's getting crazy.
dan friesen
Pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
Who could have fucking seen this shit coming?
What kind of goddamn genius would you have to be to be able to read one thing 20 years ago?
Crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, nuts.
I don't know, man.
I think that I just, you know, as we get into the 1100s of episodes, I start to try and come up with new ways to say, man, this guy sucks.
jordan holmes
This guy sucks.
dan friesen
But it kind of really just boils down to, this guy sucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Matt Bracken sucks.
jordan holmes
I mean, Matt Bracken is just a piece of shit.
Like the thought process, because that's the thing that I like, I think in the abstract, a lot of people can understand a guy having this thought, you know, that idea of a guy being like, but you have to execute it.
There are so many steps.
You have to buy the URL for enemies foreign and domestic.
So you've committed.
You have to do all of these things.
You have to get a thing with the fucking Squarespace.
And then when you get kicked off Squarespace, because you're a Nazi, you have to go to another company.
There's all these steps where at any point in time, your brain could have just gone, we could stop.
We could stop.
dan friesen
And I think, you know what?
I hate to project, but I would say that if I were Matt Bracken and I was talking some mad shit about how everyone needed to storm the Capitol on January 6th.
And then that ended up happening.
And Alex had to not talk to me for a while.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I would reflect.
I would take that as a moment to be like, what am I bringing to the table?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would ask some hard questions, and I don't think that Bracken's done that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's the problem.
Timeouts only work for people who do not need timeouts.
dan friesen
It's unfortunate because he might shave that damn mustache while he's in there.
He could help that timeout.
jordan holmes
Put him in a corner with a mirror, and eventually the mustache will go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Matt Bracken has some other things he wants to talk about other than his hatred of other folks.
Sure.
And that is that he likes Baron Trump.
What?
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
He's pretty cool.
matt bracken
You know, Baron Trump, I think, has his ear to the ground of the Gen Z much more than the Jared Kushners, which I think are just pure sold out, you know, 100% in for themselves.
jordan holmes
He's like 50.
matt bracken
You know, they'd love to get some awards.
Of course he's not in with Gen Z. Meanwhile, we're going to make all the real estate deals on the side to benefit our families.
It's disgusting.
But I think that, you know, Baron Trump and others of that generation, Savannah Hernandez, young people like that, they're furious.
They can't even afford rent.
dan friesen
How pathetic has the right-wing media become that they're trying to cast opposing archetypes out of Trump's children?
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Baron is the good son who has his finger on the pulse of the working class, but his brother-in-law is a no-good type of guy who just wants to make business deals for his family.
Jared's all about himself, but Baron gets it.
He can barely pay rent.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't you understand?
unidentified
This is.
dan friesen
Paycheck to paycheck this Baron Trump.
jordan holmes
This is the thing.
This is the thing.
Like, I don't get how this is considered still like calling something a Scandinavian state.
To me, that's un-American.
You should be fucking...
Are you kidding me?
A Scandinavian state?
How do you not even understand how stupid that is?
Because you don't.
But then there's this, like, I don't get it.
I don't get it.
To me, there's one thing that should unite all Americans, and that's royalty can get fucked.
And anybody who's royal can go fucking die, right?
That's what we are.
dan friesen
I think that's a little red, white, and blue.
jordan holmes
But then this little motherfucker is like, oh, the prince is a good boy.
dan friesen
Can I give you a key that might unlock this whole mystery?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't have the clip, but at one point, Matt Bracken does say that his wife complains that he's on Twitter too much.
So I think that might have something to do with it.
jordan holmes
Could be.
Could be a hair.
dan friesen
So if I saw somebody on MSNBC sincerely trying to argue about Obama's daughters and their like what they stand for in terms of like opposing politics, I would hope that their show got mercy canceled because this is just fucking sad.
Matt Bracken is almost 70 years old and he was a Navy SEAL.
So he has almost certainly taken a human life.
The fact that he wastes whatever precious time he has left whining to Alex about Trump's kids is disrespectful to whoever he's killed in the past.
unidentified
He took a lot of time.
jordan holmes
They had a promising life.
They had a promising life.
And if it's, yeah, that sucks.
You really do.
You really should have to earn it retroactively.
dan friesen
See, this is me trying to come up with new ways to say he sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, He sucks.
He sucks throughout time.
He sucks throughout a family tree.
dan friesen
We know nothing about the people that he killed, but we do know what he's doing right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't know how it could be worse.
pete hegseth
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
So anyway, Matt Bracken's complaining about how we're at the end of the empire type moment, right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, where like all the oligarchs are drunk on power and stealing everything.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Except it's not Trump who's stealing everything.
jordan holmes
Do you mean the oligarch who's drunk on power stealing everything?
Isn't the oligarch drunk on power stealing anything?
dan friesen
No, it's immigrants.
matt bracken
And meanwhile, they're bringing in Somalis and Indians to take your jobs.
This thing in Texas with the Bank of Texas, which is all going to Indians to take over the entire hotel and the money.
alex jones
Let's be clear Brighton did his analysis, and I checked it.
70% of all H-1B visas are from India, and over 80% of those are from one little area.
It's literally a tribe that came in 40 years ago, bought off the politicians, and it's not even just Indians, it's only that group.
matt bracken
Yeah, we're in the end of an empire, oligarchs looting the treasury stage.
There are people that are comparing this to the 1990s in Russia, where you had drunk Boris Yeltsin put in by our own stooge oligarchs.
alex jones
And I thought Trump won't be our Vladimir Putin.
Who will?
jordan holmes
What?
matt bracken
I think that at this point, we don't vote our way out of this.
I think that the structural election fraud is too deep that, you know, at this point, I don't think it's reversible.
I think we're going to wind up at, I say, there's like four men with the little mustaches or big nuts.
alex jones
Yeah, but exactly.
How did they not know starting war with Russia and China would sure kill a dollar?
dan friesen
The Trump dipshit media folks are learning an incredibly hard lesson, and that is that they never really wanted power to begin with.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Being in charge means you have to do things.
You can't just yell about things you imagine on your podcast because the world keeps moving.
Trump's term, his first one, that was pretty fun for them because it was fresh and the blue-haired people they hated were crying.
And they got charged out of that.
That's very exciting.
alex jones
It's good.
dan friesen
He was new to politics, so any horrible decision he made could be blamed on inexperience or bad staffing decisions.
And even if he didn't get anything done in office, it was super easy to pretend that he could have done everything you dreamed if only those pesky globalists hadn't been in the way.
He was impeached, so that caused a lot of drama and created built-in excuses for why he wasn't doing any of the big shit he was supposed to do, like lock up the satanic pedophiles or release the magic healing technology.
jordan holmes
There's tons of great palace intrigue with people being on one faction and the other.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
It was great.
And then he lost in 2020, and that was perfect for them, too.
He got robbed.
The victimhood complexes were an overdrive, and every single thing that happened was evidence of deeper and deeper conspiracies.
Him being out of power was exactly what they needed because it gave another great excuse for why he wasn't getting anything done.
But now, here we are in 2026.
Trump is president again.
The Supreme Court has mostly been appointed by his dumbass, and the GOP controls all of the government.
He couldn't get impeached if he tried, and yet all of the stuff that Alex and his dipshit friends want him to do isn't getting done.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
There's really no excuse now.
If all of your shit isn't happening now, there isn't some variable you can pretend needs to be adjusted.
It's just not going to happen.
This is the reality that Matt Bracken is stripping bare, and Alex's audience is starting to discuss.
There is no political solution to their problem.
There's only violence.
They think that there's no political solution to their problem because the fraud is too deep or the system is too rigged.
But the reality is there's no political solution to their problem because their problem has never been political.
Their problem is anger.
It's hate.
It's resentment.
It's entitlement.
There never has been a political solution for their problem.
It's just that Alex's business model relies on pretending this is about politics.
Political disagreements are okay to have, and you can still respect someone you don't see eye to eye with on some policy preferences.
But the shit that Alex needs his audience to accept is far beyond that.
This is a straight-up hate program.
And the reason it's allowed to continue is because Alex pretends that it has something to do with politics.
And now that none of it is getting anything politically done, they are out of excuses.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it's the clearest sign of any kind of cult thinking is just the idea, well, okay, well, this didn't work.
So the only thing we can do is violence.
As opposed to like, well, I mean, sure, we have political parties and we could just vote, and then the different person would be president for a while, and then we'd vote again, and then there'd be a different person for president, and then we'd vote again, and we'd be.
No, they can't, not for a single second.
Because if you've got so clearly inundated with the lesser of two evils, even though Trump is worse than anything you have ever described any other president doing, somehow at the end of it, you'll go, but at least he's not a Democrat.
dan friesen
He's not Kamala Harris.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
He put on the ring of mortar.
He's not Harris.
jordan holmes
But at least he's not somebody who would just be pretty annoying and bad most of the time.
But at least we'd still have a country or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not somebody that I can't project my power fantasies onto.
jordan holmes
But you know what would be better for us is if it was somebody who is competent and bad.
Because then we could be angry all the time without ever having to deal with the fucking consequences of our actions.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex and Matt Bracken are unfortunately realizing that the most stable state of affairs for them is like right after Waco.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's where they stand to gain the most in their business model.
jordan holmes
Yep.
And but in order for them to grow, more people have to be Nazis.
And eventually once enough people are Nazis, they think, why not have a Nazi government?
And then here we are.
dan friesen
It's unfortunate.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
For everyone.
jordan holmes
For everybody everywhere.
dan friesen
Yep.
So there's a tension that's going on.
I mentioned it on our last episode, I believe.
But there's this sort of break going on between Candace Owens on one hand and Laura Lumar on the other.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it has to do with Candace saying and making accusations about turning point USA people being involved in Charlie Kirk's killing.
And Alex has come out pretty strongly against Candace to the point where he's like making fun of her and calling her out and all this shit.
And Matt Bracken doesn't like her actions either.
alex jones
And then separately, you mentioned Candace Holmes.
I know you've been a fan, so have I. Clearly, her Wachuka thing, this Mitch guy.
I can't believe she got mad at me for warning him about it.
Now they've doubled down.
They say it don't matter if he beat up his wife a bunch and lied on video.
matt bracken
There are people that are so far into the rabbit hole, they can't even see the surface, right?
They're like in THX 1138.
They don't even know there's a surface anymore.
If like a meteor hits China, they'll blame the Jews, right?
I mean, no matter what.
And I get it, the Calarigy plan, all that.
I understand.
alex jones
I've been criticizing Israel since I knew you 20 years ago, but it's become totally mentally ill.
Everything is Israel.
matt bracken
And sure, there is something to the quote-unquote cosmopolitans that benefit by going into a country and stirring up trouble, right?
Because if you've got a country that's stable with a stable banking system, there's no room for an outsider to just come in.
alex jones
Well, there's no doubt that.
There's no doubt Israel's doing evil stuff.
But yeah, but exactly.
Because Candace says it's Israel, they plan the killing there.
No, I didn't say that.
Yeah, you did.
Then I've got to believe a known liar that they all have alibis.
I think there was people helping kill Kirk.
And so my point is this whole story hurts the truth.
matt bracken
Yeah, and I just want to warn people to not go down rabbit holes.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't do that.
jordan holmes
Imagine Matt Bracken.
Imagine trapping yourself into a space where you can't just go, oh, yeah, it's dumb to think that Turning Point USA also killed Charlie Kirk.
That's dumb, guys.
Let's move on.
dan friesen
Nope.
I think Matt Bracken has a very interesting point, which is some people are too rough on the Jews.
And also, hey, the international Jew kind of had some points.
jordan holmes
Sure, the Calarigi plan was correct in every possible way, but you don't have to go on about it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We can keep it just below the surface.
And then externally, you know what I'm saying?
We'll do it quiet.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this really does suck.
dan friesen
He sucks.
He sucks.
So they finish up their interview, and Alex signs off for his Friday show.
And you would never think that Maduro was about to be captured.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
If anything, he's just interested in attacking Somalians and trying to stir up fear about Trump attacking Iran.
But then Trump went and kidnapped Maduro and decided that we're going to run Venezuela for a little bit.
So Alex had to come in on his day off and do a special show about how shit had gone down.
jordan holmes
My God.
dan friesen
So we start, and Alex just goes straight to Trump's press conference announcing the capture.
unidentified
The Alex Jones Network is tomorrow's news today.
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is Saturday, January 3rd, 2025.
Trump just went live from Mar-Lago.
So back it up.
I at least went live 20 seconds ago.
Back up the live feed.
We're going to go to Trump right now with his announcement.
He was supposed to be speaking already three months ago.
We're here with live coverage.
This is so historic from so many angles and breakdown what's coming next.
But here is President Trump right now.
let's go to him
donald j trump
late last night and early today at my direction the united states armed forces conducted an extraordinary military operation in the capital of venezuela overwhelming american military power air land and sea was used to launch a spectacular assault
And it was an assault like people have not seen since World War II.
dan friesen
World War II.
So first thing to point out, the voiceover talent for the Alex Jones network bumper is a massive downgrade from the InfoWars one.
That sounded like shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know who they hired or what board operator they got to do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's trash.
jordan holmes
That was a guy who that was his third or fourth job to do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That was on a checklist.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Second, I don't know what Trump is trying to say about this being an assault like no one has seen since World War II.
All of Vietnam.
Both Gulf Wars.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Trump topped it all.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think he's talking about Pearl Harbor.
I think he's saying we just did up Pearl Harbor.
dan friesen
Do you remember Sleepy Joe Biden being the nickname?
jordan holmes
I recall that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Seemed comes off strange now.
jordan holmes
Man, it's so funny.
It is so funny to have this happen and to know that you could be living in a country and every single person in that country could just be like, man, I wish that guy hadn't missed when he shot Trump in the face.
He could have just ended all of our problems so fast.
dan friesen
Such a weird breaking point in history.
Weird paths diverging.
jordan holmes
It is very much so.
dan friesen
So Trump, he's talking.
He's talking about this greatest attack.
jordan holmes
Hugest.
dan friesen
Assault never seen.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it happened when it was dark outside.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It was real dark.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And maybe they made it dark.
Who knows?
It was nighttime.
jordan holmes
Fucking hell.
donald j trump
The men and women of our military working with U.S. law enforcement successfully captured Maduro in the dead of night.
It was dark.
The lights of Caracas were largely turned off due to a certain expertise that we have.
It was dark and it was deadly.
But captured along with his wife, Celia Flores, both of whom now face American justice.
Maduro and Flores have been indicted in the southern district of New York.
dan friesen
So Trump is very clearly trying to insinuate that the military carried out a cyber attack in conjunction with the operation, which knocked out power and surveillance capabilities so the troops could get to Maduro.
Yes.
It was a pretty quick in-and-out job to capture Maduro.
That is fair enough.
But there are still a lot of questions about what happened and what happens next.
For instance, if we pretend that snatching him up was about some crimes his government committed, then it seems weird that Maduro's vice president is now the president of Venezuela.
She's been a part of both Maduro and Hugo Chavez's government, so that seems like a bad fit for the next head of state.
In fact, the main difference between her and Maduro seems to be that she has a record of making clear to the West that she wants to make deals.
This is all going to go bad, but it could take a while to escalate.
The current president, Delsie Rodriguez, is in a horrible spot where she knows that Trump will straight up kidnap her if she isn't sufficiently accommodating of U.S. interests.
But she also knows that if she just acts as a Trump puppet, the existing power structure in Venezuela will likely collapse at least into a coup.
She only holds value to Trump because she represents a potential for stability for U.S. oil companies, much more so than handpicking a new leader or doing a new election.
But there are strong indications that the opposition party probably would have won if the 2024 Venezuelan elections hadn't been stolen, so she might not have a ton of popular support.
Therefore, most of her power comes from the same regime that's been in power under Maduro, and they are going to be thrilled about the idea of Trump just running the oil markets.
Rodriguez being too deferential to Trump threatens the stability that she needs to offer value to Trump.
So it's kind of an awful cycle.
jordan holmes
You know, it's interesting.
It's so funny that we've never been in this situation before.
Definitely not with the Shah of Iran in almost identical circumstances.
dan friesen
Is a bad spot, but it's one that may not blow up immediately.
It might, though.
I have no idea.
I can't tell.
jordan holmes
I mean, Iran went great.
dan friesen
Beyond the domestic troubles that's going to come from this, Trump is obviously going to make impossible demands for Rodriguez to fulfill as relates to agreements Venezuela has with China, Russia, and Iran.
this sucks i mean it's just i don't care about maduro i don't Totally.
I don't lose sleep over him being taken out of power or arrested, but the circumstances here are messy.
jordan holmes
Here's so, like, I get it.
Because we have a United States-centric point of view on the world.
It can be hard to, like, zoom out or even, like, go somewhere else and zoom in from their point of view.
So where I'm taking this is from a more positive point of view, which is to say that I think Iraq should kidnap George W. Bush.
I'm all for it, right?
dan friesen
I don't know why any international court could be against that at this point.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm all for it, right?
If we're going to live in the new world order, I'm going to adapt.
dan friesen
But how many other countries did Bush bomb?
Or how many countries did Obama?
jordan holmes
Free-for-all on all of them.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Let's go fucking nuts.
I hope all of our world leaders kill each other and then everybody else left behind will be like, thank God we don't have to deal with those assholes anymore.
They're trying to kill us all.
dan friesen
I don't think that's great.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know what legal justification we would have to be like, oh, no, they can't do that.
jordan holmes
They can't do that.
Here's our legal justification, the same one we have for doing this, which is we will blow everybody up and there's nothing you can do about it because that guy is fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I also think that I think we would be pretty fucking delusional to think that they could pull off an operation like this without some complicity of the Maduro regime.
Yeah, no kidding.
jordan holmes
How did they know exactly where they want to be?
Well, some sort of, oh my God.
dan friesen
And I wouldn't be too surprised.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
If maybe new president.
jordan holmes
What?
No.
dan friesen
Listen.
jordan holmes
Do you think she might have had some sort of advanced knowledge of this particular type of situation?
What is she?
Some sort of fourth estate journalist?
dan friesen
Or some sort of faction within the government that may be friendly towards her, you know, sacrificed Maduro to the Trump machine.
jordan holmes
Whatever happened, it went down more like the wire.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He got stringer belt.
dan friesen
It's a change in management.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is kind of into this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Fuck it.
Why not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
donald j trump
We had many helicopters, many people involved in that fight.
alex jones
I've talked to people that think of that not one military equipment.
They hit thousands of targets in five minutes.
Service member was all just hit at once.
They just destroyed.
donald j trump
And most fearsome military on the planet by far.
Thousands of drones and capabilities and skills our enemies can scarcely begin to imagine we have the best equipment anywhere in the world.
There's no equipment like what we have.
And you see that.
jordan holmes
The good guy?
donald j trump
Even if you just look at the boats, you know, we've knocked out 97% of the drugs coming in by sea.
90%.
Each boat kills 25, on average, 25,000 people.
We knocked out 97%.
And those drugs mostly come from a place called Venezuela.
dan friesen
I guess Skynet's good now, so that's fun.
jordan holmes
We've learned a lot.
dan friesen
What's also fun is that if you pay attention to the continuity of Alex's show, then he has to think that Trump is lying to the American people in this press conference.
The whole drug boat thing was a facade because convincing the public to support shooting down boats because of the 2020 election conspiracy stuff, that was too hard to sell.
Now, Trump has escalated things and kidnapped the president of a country, and he's still basing it on that lie.
The character Alex has pretended to be shouldn't be okay with this behavior, even if he likes the outcome.
No.
It's a bad thing.
He put on the ring of Mordor.
jordan holmes
At the very least, you should say Trump fell into a trap, right?
dan friesen
Well, he did yesterday.
He said that yesterday.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Like, this should be like, oh, Trump made a huge mistake doing the Venezuela thing.
dan friesen
No, this is too exciting.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is too insane.
jordan holmes
It's like a movie.
Which is probably why he did it in the fucking first place, is because it would be very movie cool, not because it has any fucking value at all.
dan friesen
Hey, you know what?
Hold on to those thoughts for when Pete Hegseff comes up at his press conference.
jordan holmes
I swear to God.
dan friesen
Man, that guy's in a bad movie.
Anyway, Trump just kind of, you know, they always complain about how Biden seemed to not know what he was saying and he would repeat himself about it.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Keep that in mind.
donald j trump
We're going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition.
So we don't want to be involved with having somebody else get in, and we have the same situation that we had for the last long period of years.
So we are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition.
And it has to be judicious because that's what we're all about.
We want peace, liberty, and justice for the great people of Venezuela.
And that includes many from Venezuela that are now living in the United States and want to go back to their country.
It's their homeland.
We can't take a chance that somebody else takes over Venezuela that doesn't have the good of the Venezuelan people in mind.
And decades of that.
We're not going to let that happen.
We're there now.
And what people don't understand, but they understand as I say this, we're there now, but we're going to stay until such time as the proper transition can take place.
So we're going to stay until such time as we're going to run it, essentially, until such time as a proper transition can take place.
dan friesen
Man, he doesn't sound well.
He just said the same thing like three or four times in a row.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He sounded lost.
The thing that he's saying is fucked up.
We're going to go ahead and run Venezuela.
And the way he's saying it is also fucked up.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But hey, it's cool.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, but that is, again, this is another, this is a great moment of losing ambiguity because not only is this not something that I could, did, or would have voted for, but it happened without, I guess, anybody's vote having any concept that this could happen.
dan friesen
Well, it's not a good idea.
jordan holmes
So let's just dispense with this.
This is fucking nuts.
The idea of any kind of value to our vote having an outcome on policy is absurd.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
If anyone had voted, McGuire would have heard about it.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Can't do stuff like this if you vote.
jordan holmes
No, that is fair.
dan friesen
It's too risky.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just like, it's just nice to know that I genuinely have no responsibility for what my government does.
The idea that I could have any responsibility for this infuriates me.
How dare you think that I didn't even know this was possible?
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
So I cannot be responsible for this.
dan friesen
I think, conversely, I look at it more like we're all a little bit responsible for this.
No way.
Not specific.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You didn't know.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I would say, listen, all right?
Everybody now knows, right, that the entirety of global world order can be upended because one man is insane.
So if we're not going to do anything about that, that's on you.
dan friesen
But I think kind of felt that already.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's just this is pretty fucking illuminating.
jordan holmes
It should have been handled by now.
Of all the generations of human beings that have ever lived, this is not a new problem.
Somebody should have handled it by now.
dan friesen
It's so funny to imagine the globalists existing in the way that Alex imagines them and this happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's so funny.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That would be a fun office day.
dan friesen
You're so fired.
Everyone's fired.
Fuck it.
Hey, Satan, come to office.
jordan holmes
What's the Council of 12 up to on this day?
dan friesen
Hey, it's a Council of Zero now.
They're all fucking fired.
Hey, Satan, don't sit down.
You're not going to need it.
This is not going to need fired.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
You're going to be getting coffee from now on.
dan friesen
Go back to heaven.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Suck at this devil thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should still be an angel, you suck so bad.
I hope God loves you again.
dan friesen
So Trump is pretty clear that he wants that oil.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's pretty immediately into it.
donald j trump
As everyone knows, the oil business in Venezuela has been a bust, a total bust, for a long period of time.
jordan holmes
For whom?
donald j trump
They were pumping almost nothing by comparison to what they could have been pumping.
jordan holmes
So we're going to steal it.
donald j trump
We're going to have our very large United States.
alex jones
Yeah, the U.S. built the refineries down there to deliver it to Houston.
Houston's refineries are built for Venezuelan oil at a certain time.
donald j trump
Fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure.
alex jones
Very thick.
donald j trump
And start making money for the country.
And we are ready to stage a second and much larger attack if we need to do so.
So we were prepared to do a second wave if we needed to do so.
We actually assumed that a second wave would be necessary, but now it's probably not.
The first wave, if you'd like to call it that, the first attack was so successful, we probably don't have to do a second, but we're prepared to do a second wave, a much bigger wave, actually.
alex jones
This was people.
donald j trump
There's a bigger wave that probably won't have to do.
dan friesen
I don't make a habit of listening to a ton of long-form Trump speeches, but I've watched a fair amount of them in my day.
And this one feels sloppy as shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is just repeating himself constantly in ways that aren't engaging or interesting and not saying things like, Hannibal Elector likes to have friends for dinner or whatever the fuck flourishes that he does.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's also way too obvious that he wants that oil.
jordan holmes
I mean, this is what interests me.
All right.
Because in my head, right?
You can be one of these journalists and not think you're dealing with a bond villain when they're talking because they talk like people, you know?
And so you can be like, no, this is politics and we're doing a whole thing.
Everybody's doing their jobs.
Right.
Because the idea of being within 50 feet of a bond villain and going like, what do you think?
As opposed to like shooting them or something.
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think everyone's got their own moral compass.
Sure.
And I don't want to prescribe.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that they should or don't or anything like that.
I'm saying just that from like a dreaming of who you want to be as a kid point of view.
dan friesen
Here's where I'm going to meet you in the middle.
To imagine being there and asking him a serious question is insane.
jordan holmes
I would shit my pants.
dan friesen
You have to ask him something funny.
jordan holmes
Right?
You have to, like, what are we all doing here?
What do you think is next?
Fuck off, you fucking coward.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Can you give us some clarification on this strike?
Right.
That's a waste of a question.
jordan holmes
What is it like in Candyland?
Do you have Candyland friends, or do you only speak English in Candyland?
dan friesen
Did you kidnap Lord Licorice in the dark of night?
jordan holmes
Right?
What are we doing here?
Where's the peanut brittle?
The idea of this being a human being to like, and what do you think?
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
Yeah.
So Trump rambles a bit about how this was about the drug boats and stuff.
Sure.
jordan holmes
We all know that's a lie.
dan friesen
Right.
Anyway, Alex is like, skip it, skip it.
jordan holmes
Fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Well, he doesn't realize he's on a hot mic.
alex jones
Right.
donald j trump
As alleged in the indictment, he personally oversaw the vicious cartel known as Cartel de las Solas, which flooded our nation with lethal poison, responsible for the deaths of countless Americans.
The many, many Americans, hundreds of thousands over the years of Americans died because of him.
Maduro and his wife will soon face the full might of American justice and stand trial on American soil.
Right now, they're on a ship they'll be heading to, ultimately, New York.
dan friesen
He's not quite live with the press conference, and he's like, nah, this is no good.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm on his team.
Skip it.
dan friesen
Skip it.
jordan holmes
This isn't going to be useful for us.
dan friesen
Nah.
Nah, this isn't.
There's no oil in these ironically in this patch here.
jordan holmes
Keep digging.
dan friesen
So they go to commercial.
Sure.
Even though this is a commercial-free broadcast, and there's no reason, there's no heartbreaks.
jordan holmes
You got to go to a commercial.
dan friesen
Sure.
And so they regroup and come back, and Trump is lying about crime.
Sure.
donald j trump
And I just have to congratulate our military, Pete, and everybody and our National Guard because the jobs that they've done, whether it's in Washington, D.C., where we have a totally safe city, where it was one of the most unsafe cities anywhere in the world, frankly.
And now we have no crime in Washington, D.C.
We haven't had a killing.
We had the terrorists.
alex jones
Yeah, violent crime down 98%.
donald j trump
A little bit of a different kind of a threat.
But we haven't had a killing in a long period of time, six, seven months.
We used to have two, on average, two a week in Washington, our capital.
We don't have that anymore.
The restaurants are opening.
Everyone's happy.
They're going, they're walking their daughters.
They're walking their children, their wives.
They walk to restaurants, restaurants, or opening.
alex jones
See, Trump's a hospitality guy.
dan friesen
He's a hospitality guy.
He likes restaurants.
jordan holmes
Okay, so here's what I want to go back and relitigate this.
All right.
I think, and I don't want to re-litigate it in a different way.
I just want everybody to reflect on how we should move forward, right?
Because after the missed assassination attempt, right?
People were like, don't celebrate that.
But we should all now just recognize that it's totally okay for you to go like, fuck, he missed.
That's fine.
You know?
unidentified
Because I feel like that's where we're at.
dan friesen
Sure.
I think, here's where I'm going to meet you in the middle.
If you're there in this press conference, throwing a shoe is the lowest floor.
jordan holmes
You should be forced to lose a shoe if you don't throw a shoe.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous to listen to this shit.
jordan holmes
I mean, they put it in the middle of the middle.
dan friesen
The restaurants are open and they're walking with their daughter.
jordan holmes
Human being.
I understand that we're all having jobs, right?
But take a step back and recognize that just because he's the president, it's an arbitrary title that we've given him.
He is exactly like every other human being on this planet, as are you.
You are equals under the eyes of whatever God you believe in.
And in no way should you allow an equal to speak to you like this.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't think that a media entity should demand reporters act that way.
Sure.
But if you were a reporter and you don't have a bit of conscience in this moment, I don't know what you're doing there.
jordan holmes
I mean, we're not friends.
dan friesen
I don't get it.
Anyway, Trump is also just lying, and Alex is reflexively doubling down on Trump's lie.
According to the Associated Press, there have been 62 homicides in D.C. in the past six months, including 24 since Trump sent in the National Guard in August.
Alex should really read that 1984 book he talks about all the time.
On a very fundamental level, what we're listening to is the president of the country thanking the military and National Guard for how great a job they've done at domestic policing.
And the dipshit who made multiple police state documentaries is looking for more boot to lick.
This is crazy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is such a stark image of, you're so full of shit, dude.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It should be on the cover.
Alex Jones should licking Trump's boot should now be the cover of 1984.
dan friesen
Wow, Trump has a speech bubble that says, I love police state.
jordan holmes
I love police state four.
dan friesen
Rise of FIBA.
So Hegseth takes the mic.
Yeah.
And man, this dude sucks.
pete hegseth
Words can barely capture the bravery and the power and the precision of this historic operation.
A massive joint military and law enforcement raid for the future.
alex jones
Yeah, that's not hype.
It's so insanely.
Except them.
pete hegseth
American warriors are second to the best in the world.
alex jones
It's actually scary.
pete hegseth
What all of us witnessed last night was sheer guts and grit, gallantry, and glory of the American warrior.
I'm simply humbled by such man, such men.
And I tip my hat to our chairman, Dan Raisin Kane, and all those Americans who stood watch last night.
Our warriors.
alex jones
Over a thousand targets in five minutes.
pete hegseth
President Trump.
alex jones
They couldn't even shoot back and then grab Maduro.
pete hegseth
No other country on planet Earth, and it's not even close, could pull this kind of operation.
alex jones
And this isn't bragging.
It's letting everybody know, back off.
Don't launch wars.
pete hegseth
Peace through strength and resolve the most powerful combination the world has ever seen.
As the president said, our adversaries remain on notice.
America can project our will anywhere, anytime.
dan friesen
Alex is celebrating the idea that this is about scaring the world.
We're terrorizing the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, great.
You know, what I thought of while he was saying that stuff is I thought of the new L-Stops.
There's a new stop on Lawrence, which had been shut down for a long time.
And it's really great.
It's a really good L-Stop.
It's really pretty.
It's well-built.
It's all great.
It is all fucking great.
It's just a really well-built civil engineering project.
You know?
And that deserves a statement, a press conference like that.
It really does.
It really deserves a lot of celebration.
dan friesen
They put a lot of work into this.
unidentified
It's really cool.
dan friesen
There's a lot of coordination.
jordan holmes
It's really cool.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
To have a guy jerking off to murder is probably bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's celebrating like people are scared of us now.
jordan holmes
Oh, the American warrior.
God, go fucking shoot this dude into space.
Are you kidding me?
dan friesen
Yeah, you're not going to like this next clip.
alex jones
I bet I won't.
dan friesen
Why don't we just be safe and mic down?
pete hegseth
This is about the safety, security, freedom, and prosperity of the American people.
alex jones
Look at overdose as soon as Trump got in.
pete hegseth
Is America first?
dan friesen
dropping like 30 percent is peace through strength and the united states war department is proud to help deliver it welcome to 2026 and under president trump america is back It's honestly shocking to listen to these guys because that sounds like a bad movie script.
It's like how when you watch wrestling, you'll often be able to tell that the wrestlers are posing in staged images that are meant to be used later in a sizzle reel.
Like in the moment, it seems strange how much they're overselling, being lost in thought, staring at the WrestleMania sign.
But then you realize that they're just doing that because it's going to look good in B-roll later.
That's how all the people in the Trump administration talk.
Like they're dropping soundbites that are meant to be edited together to some epic meme later.
It comes off scary and very dorky.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, Alex should be careful about celebrating the overdose deaths thing too much, too quickly.
That huge drop started before Trump got back into office, and a large part of it probably has to do with Biden's FDA approving an over-the-counter version of naloxone, the drug that can reduce and reverse opiate overdose.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
To no one's surprise, once Trump got back into office, his budget slashed funding for addiction and overdose prevention investments, which includes federal grants to make naloxone more available to first responders.
So the downward trend of overdose deaths might not continue into the future.
So you don't want to take credit for this one yet?
Because I think Trump might fuck it up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But man, that Hegseth sucks.
jordan holmes
And that's like they murdered people.
Like they didn't murder, they didn't like fight a guy off.
They murdered people so they could kidnap the guy those people were contractually obligated to protect.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, at a couple points, they do say that a lot of the people they killed were probably Cubans.
So, hey.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
So you murdered them.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
They didn't, that's not like they committed a crime.
We weren't at war.
There was no like attack.
There was no push forward.
You went to their lives and then ended them.
They have families and all that stuff.
And then you ended those lives for no reason other than your ego.
And then you went on fucking TV and said, we're back.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Now, let me ask you a question.
jordan holmes
All crime is legal.
dan friesen
Let me ask you if you're not.
jordan holmes
The fucking purge begins today.
dan friesen
It's not a good idea.
I've seen all those movies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
They don't work well.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Saw, also not a good idea.
I've seen all of those movies.
jordan holmes
It's not a good start.
It's not a...
They're bad players.
Movies are bad plans for like moving forward.
dan friesen
Here's the problem.
Saw, you could argue, starts with good intentions.
The purge does not.
You can't even say that.
jordan holmes
No, the purge definitely started with bad intentions.
dan friesen
From the jump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there was never going to be any good outcome from the purge.
dan friesen
No.
Jigsaw may have been misguided.
unidentified
Listen.
jordan holmes
There are ways to do what he did with less physical damage.
I'm just saying.
dan friesen
I have a very serious question for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Did you think he was going to say bitch?
I really did.
jordan holmes
He intended it.
He felt it.
He felt it.
That was one of the things Paul F. Tompkins used to say about not swearing on stage when you're doing stand-up is if you mean the swear, you can feel it in there without actually having to say it.
And you just adjust your rhythm accordingly.
Yeah.
That guy put bitch in there.
dan friesen
Twice.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
After 2026.
jordan holmes
It's 2026.
No, I genuinely thought he said it's 2026.
Bitch.
I just assumed it happened.
dan friesen
My body felt a let's fucking go.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
No, no, no, no.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I thought we're on the challenge.
jordan holmes
We're doing a fucking God damn it.
It's a football game.
These people are fucking insane.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So this is a cool war.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not a neocon war.
Amazing.
unidentified
Yep.
marco rubio
You have a guy, like many people around the world, they like to play games.
You have a guy who decides he's going to invite Iran into his country, is going to do the confiscation of American oil companies, is going to flood our country with gang members, is going to take Americans prisoner and try to hold them for hostage and trade them like he was able to do with the Biden administration.
Basically, likes to play games all the time.
alex jones
It's a thug pushing us around.
It's true.
Sorry, hymns for a bitch.
This is a neocon war.
This is Thomas Jefferson style.
That's what it's all about to the rest of the world.
America is back on this.
Foreign policy, Trump's doing great.
Domestic, we need the same energy here getting rid of the filibuster.
marco rubio
Like, I don't understand yet how they haven't figured this out.
And now, if you don't know, now you know.
Because this is the way it's going to play out.
And I think people need to understand that this is not a president that just talks and does letters and press conferences.
And, you know, if he says he's serious about something, he means it.
And this is something that was a direct threat to the national interest of the United States.
And the president addressed it.
There's a president of peace, by the way.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, sure.
President of Peace.
Marco Rubio seems to be talking a bit tougher than I remember him being in the past.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He feels like a nerd who got beat up by the cool kids a bunch and then showed up one day wearing a leather jacket so they adopted him as their mascot.
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, Alex seems to be forgetting the years he spent calling Rubio a huge neocon.
I get that when a wrestler gets a new gimmick, you're not supposed to remember their old character or else it breaks Kayfeib, but this is a little fucking stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Rand Paul has also come out and said that Lindsey Graham, the king of the neocons, according to Alex, was behind the decision to take out Maduro.
He was the impetus behind it.
Great.
jordan holmes
Is that the doctor of thugonomics speaking, or is this John Cena?
dan friesen
Word life.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
Look, all of the people that Alex seems to pretend to be against are weirdly on his team on this one.
jordan holmes
Seems strange.
dan friesen
The neocons are all super in favor of top-legged Maduro.
Multinational corporations are into it.
And here's what his arch rivals over at BlackRock said in their corporate analysis.
Quote, U.S. President Donald Trump's remarks highlighted that the administration doesn't see this as regime change, but a leadership change, leaving Maduro's top lieutenants in place.
With no clear political or military plans for what comes next, we see plenty of uncertainty ahead.
But this may not matter much to global markets.
Trump kidnapped a foreign president and BlackRock said, who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Not a big deal.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Weird world.
What a weird time to be alive.
I think a lot of people in their generation, in their time, experience a lot of weird things.
Man, I feel like in the past six years, we've experienced a lot of shit.
dan friesen
No, and you know what's fucked up?
You could have said that on the 2nd.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On January 7th.
jordan holmes
Still could have seconded it.
dan friesen
Still could have said it.
jordan holmes
It would have been just as accurate.
dan friesen
It was just.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Too much.
Too much has happened.
I demand everyone slow down.
One thing can happen for the next year.
And then two things can happen a year after that.
And if we earn it, we can do three.
But otherwise, it's back down to one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We're half past come on now.
And we're getting dangerously close to cooling.
jordan holmes
Hey, hey, hey.
alex jones
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So reporters start asking some questions.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I'm sorry, Mario.
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
I just like to listen to people who thought they could look me directly in the eye as an equal.
And those people do not exist in the press anymore.
unidentified
None of them.
dan friesen
I don't know who I don't know who any of the people who are.
unidentified
Zero.
dan friesen
I don't know who any of these people are.
But one of them wants to know what does it mean when you say we're going to run Venezuela.
unidentified
The U.S. running the country mean that U.S. troops will be on the ground?
How will that work?
donald j trump
Well, you know, they always say boots on the ground.
Oh, so we're not afraid of boots on the ground if we have to have.
Had boots on the ground last night at a very high level, actually.
We're not afraid of it.
unidentified
We don't want to.
jordan holmes
Are you touching yourself right now, sir?
donald j trump
But we're going to make sure that that country is run properly.
We're not doing this in vain.
This is a very dangerous attack.
This is an attack that could have gone very, very badly.
Could have gotten very badly.
jordan holmes
Do you still have Harry Legs on?
donald j trump
We had a lot of people last night.
We could have lost a lot of dignity.
We could have lost a lot of equipment.
The equipment is less important, but we could have lost a lot.
jordan holmes
How's Jimmy Fallon doing?
donald j trump
We're going to make sure that this is proper.
We're there now.
We're ready to go again if we have to.
We're going to run the country right.
It's going to be run very judiciously, very fairly.
It's going to make a lot of money.
We're going to give money to the people.
We're going to reimburse people that we're taking advantage of.
jordan holmes
Sir, did you know your nose is growing?
donald j trump
It's very important.
We couldn't let them get away with it.
You know, they stole our oil.
We built that whole industry there.
And they just took it over like we were nothing.
And we had a president that decided not to do anything about it.
So we did something about it.
We're late, but we did something about it.
Yeah.
unidentified
Can you explain the exact mechanism by which you're going to run the country?
Are you going to designate a unique organization?
Fuck you.
donald j trump
We're talking to people.
We're designating various people, and we're going to let you know who those people are.
unidentified
What's the group you mentioned that would run Venezuela?
donald j trump
Well, it's largely going to be for a period of time, the people that are standing right behind me.
We're going to be running it.
We're going to be bringing it back.
It's a dead country.
You know, I talk about a dead country.
A year and a half ago, we were a dead country.
Now we're the hottest country anywhere in the world.
We're a country doing better than any country anywhere in the world.
dan friesen
It's pretty unacceptable to imagine that you're going to get an answer that means anything.
Because the message is pretty fucking obvious.
And that is like, I'm in charge.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I run this shit.
jordan holmes
See, because it's okay.
I get it.
They think they are what they are.
But now they're just laundering the game.
Now they're just legitimizing all of this stuff in a way that is just, I mean, listen to the credulous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't think that society can function if the media has that response to something like what Trump is doing.
jordan holmes
Out.
You're gone.
You're gone.
Bye.
dan friesen
By pretending that this is something that can be engaged with this way, you are aiding in the destruction of the thing that.
jordan holmes
What groups are you going to appoint instead of like, hey, you're a fucking psycho.
What is fucking happening?
You're destroying the goddamn planet.
What is going on, you fucking lunatic?
dan friesen
Right.
There's another way to say that, but yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can't, you can't.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He talked for like a minute straight of nonsense.
jordan holmes
That is, we're doing a post-game press conference.
This is like, hey, what are you going to do on your defense for the next game?
How are you going to prepare the fucking quarterback to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah?
This is, they're, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen
So the new president of Venezuela, immediately after this shit went down, she was pretty clear, like, hey, let him go.
This is no good.
And then Trump came out at a press conference and is like, she's going to play ball.
And then she kind of does.
She kind of does.
jordan holmes
Of course she does.
What else are you going to do?
unidentified
We're going to backman shot out to come back and be the opposition later in your Fox and Friends interview.
And then you also mentioned the vice president of Venezuela.
Are you going to work with Vice President of Venezuela?
Or how do you foresee the relationship?
donald j trump
So I understand she was just sworn in, but she was, as you know, picked by Maduro.
So Marco's working on that directly.
Just had a conversation with her.
And she's essentially willing to.
jordan holmes
I'll kill you.
donald j trump
We think it's necessary to make Venezuela great again.
Very simple.
unidentified
So, former president of Santa Cruz, a couple weeks ago, he said he's got to watch his ass.
And today, he said he's not concerned about anything happening to him in the aftermath of this operation.
So, just one of the messages.
donald j trump
Well, he has cocaine mills.
He has factories where he makes cocaine.
And, yeah, I think I stick by my first name.
jordan holmes
Sir, are you a cartoon character?
Mr. President, Mr. President, still?
dan friesen
It's really hard to pretend that international law or national sovereignty mean anything at this point.
Like, Trump is holding a press conference about how his administration planned for months to secretly take out a foreign head of state without approval from Congress.
And while talking to reporters, he seems to be explicitly threatening the president of Colombia.
unidentified
You bet.
dan friesen
It seems painfully clear that the message is that the vice president of Venezuela can be in charge as long as she knows that Trump is actually in charge.
And if she forgets that, she's going to get kidnapped.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like the president of Colombia might.
jordan holmes
We have decided to return to East India tea company policies.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And we will be raping and pillaging everywhere with stuff we want.
dan friesen
It is a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
No good.
dan friesen
Now, I was worried about the idea of not informing Congress or getting approval.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would be very cute if he did that now.
It would be very cute.
dan friesen
You know, boots on the ground.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Heavy boots on the ground.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
There's supposed to be laws or something.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But thankfully, Marco Rubio steps in and clears this.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
unidentified
Can you notify any members of Congress in advance?
donald j trump
Mark, I do want to talk about that because you were involved for sure.
marco rubio
We call members of Congress immediately after this.
It was not the kind of mission that you can do congressional notification on.
It was a trigger mission in which conditions had to be met night after night.
We watched and monitored that for a number of days.
So it's just simply not the kind of mission you can call people and say, hey, we may do this at some point in the next 15 days.
But it's largely an armed force function.
Remember, at the end of the day, at its core, this was an arrest of two indicted fugitives of American justice, and the Department of War supported the Department of Justice in that job.
Now, there are broader policy implications here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
marco rubio
But it's just not the kind of mission that you can pre-notify because it endangers the mission.
jordan holmes
Then you can't do it.
donald j trump
Congress has a tendency to leak.
This would not be good.
If they leaked, General, I think it would have been maybe a very different result.
dan friesen
Why tell Congress anything then?
If telling Congress about stuff like war and international policing is going to get in the way of you doing whatever you want, you should just not tell them anything.
The Republicans in the House aren't going to impeach Trump for anything.
And if the Democrats win in the midterms, they're going to impeach him no matter what.
So why?
jordan holmes
Why bother?
Congress does not exist as it stands.
dan friesen
If the president can carry out months-long plots with the CIA and the military that culminates in arresting a foreign head of state, and at no point he's required to run it by our elected representatives, then we don't have a representative government.
This is bullshit.
marco rubio
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, just dissolve the Congress.
Why not?
I'm bored with pretending that they matter.
dan friesen
Roll the bones on the midterm.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Fucking go Palpatine on us, dissolve the Congress, and then just move on.
Palpatine did fine.
If it weren't for Darth Vader getting cold feet at the end, Palpatine would have been smooth sailing.
dan friesen
We talk about this a lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He had lightning.
He could shoot lightning.
jordan holmes
Darth Vader's just like, oh, I don't want to kill my son.
Fucking you killed up everybody.
Kill your son.
And then Palpatine's fine.
Like, listen, Donald Trump Jr. isn't going to be helping anybody take down Emperor Palpatine, so you're probably going to be fine.
dan friesen
But Barron might.
He's a good kid.
He's a good kid.
He gets it.
He knows what the kids are dealing with.
He had to eat soup for a semester straight.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
So, Trump, one of the things you can't take away from him is that he says he has a perfect record on wars.
unidentified
Mr. President, Mr. President, Mr. President, the U.S. has something of a mixed track record of ousting dictators.
jordan holmes
Go fucking kill yourself.
unidentified
It's not necessarily a plan for what comes afterwards.
Did that weigh on your decisions?
donald j trump
With me, we've had a perfect track record of winning.
We win a lot, and we win.
If you look at Soleimani, you look at Al-Baghdadi, you look at the Midnight Hammer.
Midnight Hammer was incredible.
Right now, you wouldn't have peace in the Middle East.
Essentially, peace in the Middle East because of that.
If we weren't successful with Midnight Hammer, you wouldn't have peace in the Middle East.
So with me, you've had a lot of victory.
You've had only victories.
You've had no losses.
jordan holmes
You have to go to the United States.
unidentified
How long do you expect the U.S. to run Venezuela, and how soon do you want the Venezuelan people to hold elections?
donald j trump
So I'd like to do it quickly, but it takes a period of time.
We're rebuilding.
We have to rebuild their whole infrastructure.
unidentified
The infrastructure is rotted.
donald j trump
It's actually very dangerous.
It's a blow-up territory.
Oil is very dangerous.
It's a very dangerous thing to take out of the ground.
It can kill a lot of people.
It has killed a lot of people doing just that.
The infrastructure is all that we put there 25 years ago.
And we're going to be replacing it.
And we're going to take a lot of money out so that we can take care of the country.
unidentified
Mr. President, China, Russia, and Iran have interests in Venezuela.
How does this operation affect your relationships with them?
donald j trump
Well, in terms of China and Russia, when we get things straightened out.
But in terms of other countries that want oil, we're in the oil business.
We're going to sell it to them.
unidentified
We're not going to say we're going to be able to do it.
donald j trump
Otherwise, we'll be selling oil.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, then we have to stop you by, I don't know, law or something.
donald j trump
Large amounts of oil to other countries, many of whom are using it now.
But I would say many more will come.
dan friesen
What an asshole.
Also, I think that clip is really wild because you kind of forget that Alex is listening with you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He pipes in and you're like, why aren't you interrupting all the time?
You constantly interrupt everybody.
jordan holmes
Yep.
I've never listened to the nuts.
When a hornet gets into the bees' nest, right?
The bees don't fight back with like punches.
They just jump on top.
Like enough bees on top of the hornet will solve the problem.
Right now, I understand that there are many limitations.
But if instead of being fucking morons, everybody in the press corps just jumped on top of them, maybe the problem would go away.
But I swear, I'm going to find some of these people.
I'm going to email some of these people to tell them how much they fucking suck and are stupid.
That should be embarrassing.
dan friesen
I think worse than that, you might feel inclined to interview them.
And that's worse than you yelling at them.
jordan holmes
Well, because I'd eventually try and make them cry.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look, I just, I don't know.
I just think you can't go along with this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm being angrier than anybody.
dan friesen
Oh, I know.
jordan holmes
I know, but like, you're right.
dan friesen
I get it.
No, and I get your reaction.
jordan holmes
You just can't.
dan friesen
Yeah, the bottom line is that you just can't.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You have to walk out or something.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
Like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
How long do you expect to be there is the single most offensive question that you could ask from a like the rest of us are real people standpoint.
dan friesen
No, I think there's another one that comes later that might top it.
jordan holmes
I bet it was well to up to this point.
That is the one that bothers me the most because you already know the answer is however the fuck long I want and I don't fucking know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
And as long as the oil companies need.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
How dare you ask that question?
Here's the question.
You're a thief.
That's not even a question.
That's what you should say.
dan friesen
So I'm going to cut through some of this shit because a lot of it ends up being like the Venezuelan vice president who's now president, she's cool.
jordan holmes
It should be against the law for you to say we're in the oil business if you're the president and you just stole a country's oil.
That should be against the law.
dan friesen
I sell a lot of it.
That's crazy.
So Alex does end up interrupting Trump here, which I thought was really weird.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Mr. President, why is running a country in South America America first?
donald j trump
Well, I think it is because we want to surround ourselves with good neighbors.
We want to surround ourselves with stability.
We want to surround ourselves with enemies.
alex jones
Foreign powers are coming in and overthrowing these governments.
Cuba took over Venezuela 20 years ago.
And we want to make sure that this is our hemisphere.
This is not a neocon war.
Still wasn't overall for it because it could go badly, but it's going well so far.
dan friesen
It's interesting that so far, Alex has let most of Trump's answers play out with not that much interruption.
That was really the first time that it felt like he was stepping on Trump's answer strategically, and it feels like he doesn't trust Trump to answer well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As like a, hey, this is an America first thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it's not.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So whatever makeup you, whatever bullshit you make up for Trump is going to be bad, because then he'd have to be like, at the very least, beholden to pretending that he said it at one point in time.
dan friesen
Right.
He's going to end up like saying something about the drug boats, which you already said was a lie.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or he's going to say something about taking all the oil, which you probably shouldn't.
jordan holmes
You shouldn't really be that upfront about.
But again, ambiguity sucks.
So I'm, hey, listen, we all know who's the good guy and the bad guy here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Trump and Marco Rubio in this next clip make it pretty clear that, hey, Cuba, we're coming.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Great.
donald j trump
Cuba is, you know, not doing very well right now.
That system has not been a very good one for Cuba.
The people there have suffered for many, many years.
And I think Cuba is going to be something we'll end up talking about because Cuba is a failing nation right now, very badly failing nation.
alex jones
That's what this is all about.
I'll explain in a moment.
donald j trump
It's very similar in the sense that we want to help the people in Cuba, but we want to also help the people that were forced out of Cuba and living in this country.
Do you want to say something about that, Marco, please?
marco rubio
Well, I mean, I just gave you a statement a few minutes ago about, you know, when the president speaks, you should take him seriously.
So suffice it to say, you know, Cuba is a disaster.
It's run by incompetent, senile men, and in some cases, not senile, but incompetent nonetheless.
It has no economy.
It's in total collapse.
And by the way, they were, you know, all the guards that helped protect Maduro, this is well known.
Their whole spy agency, all that were full of Cubans.
I mean, they basically, it's amazing.
This poor island took over Venezuela in some cases.
One of the biggest problems that Venezuelans have is they have to declare independence from Cuba.
They tried to basically colonize it from a security standpoint.
So, yeah, look, if I lived in Havana and I was in the government, I'd be concerned, at least.
unidentified
Are you cutting off the oil floor to Cuba from Venezuela?
marco rubio
Well, the president already announced a week ago that anything that's sanctioned, it's sanctioned oil, it's not going to be allowed to get there.
So that's an issue.
dan friesen
Trump in the background is like, yes.
He's just cutting through it.
Yeah, so I guess they're going to kidnap some Cubans.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know how you even bother trying to navigate through that as if you're not just out and out threatening Cuba.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Right?
dan friesen
And you already threatened Colombia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like just having a country's name at that press conference, I'm out.
dan friesen
This is intensely belligerent.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
It feels an awful lot like another country and some period in time deciding to take shit from all the people nearby.
And then we had to fight a whole goddamn world war about it.
dan friesen
Does not feel dissimilar.
And it's weird how there are those echoes in other places of Alex's.
jordan holmes
So strange.
alex jones
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
So strange.
dan friesen
So here's that worse question.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Here we go.
dan friesen
Because I think that this is a little passive-aggressive.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
unidentified
Can you explain?
You said that Maduro is responsible for drug trafficking.
You recently pardoned the former president of Honduras who was convicted of many drug trafficking.
Can you explain how these two situations are different?
And would you ever pardon Maduro?
donald j trump
I endorsed, as you know, the winning president, the men who won in Honduras.
I endorsed the men who won in Chile.
I endorsed the men who won in Argentina.
And we are doing very well with that whole group.
What the man that I pardoned was, if you could equate it to us, he was treated like the Biden administration.
alex jones
Just like Bolsonaro.
You need to protect him.
Pressure on Brazil.
donald j trump
He was a man who was persecuted very unfairly.
He was ahead of the country.
He was persecuted very unfairly.
And there are a number of them.
And we felt that it was a very unfair situation that happened to him.
dan friesen
So Trump recently pardoned the former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernandez, who was convicted of trafficking tons of cocaine into the United States.
He and his brother Tony were charged with being in a conspiracy with the Sinaloa cartel.
And kind of glaringly, Tony's still in jail.
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
Some people might look at the circumstances and see that Trump pardoned Hernandez about a day before the Honduran general election, which was polling at a statistical tie.
unidentified
Weird.
dan friesen
They might point out that the Hernandez brothers were convicted of accepting millions upon millions of dollars in bribes that directly went to funding the political party he headed, and that after Trump pardoned Hernandez, the person running on that party's ticket pulled ahead by the tiniest margin and ended up winning the election.
jordan holmes
So weird.
dan friesen
Some people might see that kind of stuff and think it looks sketchy.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
It's cool, though.
Alex is not suspicious about this sort of stuff.
jordan holmes
I don't think you're wrong in that it's a worse question.
I do think that it was handled poorly.
This is actually the first time that I'm going to criticize Trump over a member of the press because the answer to that question is, shut up, nerd.
Get this guy out of here.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
But I think that the reporter probably.
I think they're happy with this.
They think it's clever.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I know, right?
Like, that's pathetic.
dan friesen
It is a little clever, but nothing's cleverer than a shoe.
jordan holmes
Aren't you a hypocrite?
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
So look, man, this is a really all about Cuba.
And apparently now we're going to try and get everybody on board with it.
jordan holmes
I'm leaving Cuba.
alex jones
If I'm in the Cuban government, I'm saying stuff during the press conference and then Rubio says it 10 seconds later.
The average American still doesn't know the players here.
You need to know.
You know how many governors, you know how many mayors, you know how many prosecutors, how many judges are on the Cuban payroll, the Venezuelan payroll?
Yeah, they're fell stakes because they take everything from the people.
But they have incredible wealth that they project for control.
Bass, the mayor of L.A., admitted Cuban intelligence agent.
Then about 20 years ago, she says, I'm sorry.
I'm not a communist anymore.
I'm sorry.
I was an intelligence agent.
So you don't want us to be involved in our own business in our own backyard?
Well, somebody else will be.
dan friesen
If there's so many politicians who are secret Cuban agents, it strikes me as odd that the only person Alex ever comes up with is L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, who isn't a Cuban agent.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
She traveled to Cuba in the 70s and 80s and has said positive things about Fidel Castro in the past, but Alex can't prove that she's ever been on their payroll, has ever been a communist.
And I challenge him to produce this apology she apparently gave 20 years ago for being an intelligence agent.
It would be weird.
What we got going on now is that Alex feels pretty comfortable that he has pacified his audience to be okay with Trump and his actions in Venezuela.
Right.
And now he's trying to normalize Trump doing the same thing to all sorts of other countries.
And it's fine because it's our hemisphere.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
So let's do it.
All right.
So we take the whole hemisphere.
All right.
We got all of South America.
Now where are we going to get our fucking drugs, man?
From the same goddamn place.
We're just going to sell them to ourselves.
dan friesen
No, Trump's friends are going to sell them to you.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a good point.
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Again, we're just going to do our own drugs.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're going to get Trump cane.
jordan holmes
And we're not going to get him for a cheaper price, man, because it's going to be less competition.
This is anti-capitalist.
That's my real problem here.
This is against the free market ideology that I ascribe to.
dan friesen
It's against small business owners.
jordan holmes
I want my cheap cocaine.
dan friesen
So Alex, you know, he wants to take out Cuba.
jordan holmes
You know, like we do.
dan friesen
But also maybe Mexico, too.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
It's about taking down Cuba.
It's about taking down the corruption in Mexico.
It's about stopping the drugs flooding in.
And the Venezuelans are just absolutely celebrating everywhere.
Now, if Trump didn't leave the government in place, it's been oppressing people, but still has the infrastructure, it would descend into total collapse.
He's got to get the infrastructure turn back on, crank up the funding.
He can get these big corporations to commit to go in with major aid projects, major hiring projects.
That's what Trump does.
He's a hospitality guy.
He looks at that and goes, God, we can build a lot of Trump towers and golf courses down there.
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
That's what he thinks.
jordan holmes
I mean.
dan friesen
So also, Alex is currently playing a fake video that someone found on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Of fake Venezuelans cheering the fake.
dan friesen
Well, no, there were some that were going around.
They were like straight up fakes.
This is just old.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just out of context, and Alex has no idea because he's a Twitter recap show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So now we got Mexico.
We got Venezuela.
We got Cuba.
Let's call Honduras on, at least like on our team.
dan friesen
El Salvador is on our team.
jordan holmes
El Salvador for sure on our team.
I guess it's basically like Brazil has to unite the Western side to take back the East and then march up through Mexico in order to be greeted as liberators when they invade the United States.
dan friesen
Pinser move from Greenland.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
We got the Canadians coming down from there.
Yeah, I think we could do it.
I think we could convince the rest of the world to invade us.
dan friesen
We're doing a great job making a case.
Well, Trump is.
Also, Alex says that they need to take over Brazil, too.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, I mean, hey, listen.
Obviously, you got to take over Brazil, but you can't get there yet.
Brazil's too big.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has seen this video on Twitter that's not real, and he makes up a little story about it.
alex jones
At first, the middle of the night after the attacks happened, a few hundred would show up here, a few thousand there.
Then by dawn, you could hear everyone celebrating from their windows and screaming and celebrating from the starvation and death and oppression.
And then by the morning, there were millions in the streets.
Let's roll start over with audio.
Here it is.
dan friesen
When you know that Alex has been fooled by an old video he stumbled across on social media, you have to then recognize that he's making up everything he's saying.
The idea that it was quiet after the attacks, but then hundreds, then thousands of people began to gather in celebration.
None of that's based on anything other than the story he wants to tell.
This is his fantasy of how the public would respond to Trump liberating them.
So that's what's true.
It's important to understand that this is actually the process that information goes through for Alex.
There's a narrative that he's come up with in his imagination that's profitable for the audience to believe.
And every data point that he encounters will be presented in a way that supports that narrative.
He doesn't care about the truth about these data points, what's real and what's not.
The video could be real or fake.
That doesn't matter in the least.
And that's what the information war is.
There aren't rules of engagement.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
This is what he does.
jordan holmes
And it is like very clear the connection of, you know, go straight back to right speech is right action kind of thing.
Like, we are the result.
We are living in the result of people treating the information war the way that they did, you know, and now it's bled out into the rest of it.
There were no rules of engagement.
dan friesen
No, I think that there are in normal society.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
Yes.
dan friesen
But Alex is an infoterrorist.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He does not follow any rules of lying or correcting or taking responsibility for the bullshit and hate and pain that he causes people.
He is killing civilians in information war.
jordan holmes
Yep, 100%.
dan friesen
And I think that people, you're correct.
That people made the mistake of assuming that he understood Geneva conventions of information.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And they, to our own detriment, we have acted that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
Agreed.
So this next clip really sucks.
Great.
And it's Alex justifying why Trump needs to keep invading U.S. cities with the National Guard.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
Because otherwise, people will stop being scared.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
alex jones
We have crime in the major cities plunging.
Some of the highest murder rates ever just a few years ago, now lowest murder rate in 50 years.
Just because there's an idea that criminals can't run wild.
Actually, they still can, but it's like when cops, the number of cops will park empty police cars on the roads and you slow down.
It's, you know, oh, a few hundred troops here and there.
People go, oh, the criminals go, oh, it's not safe.
That's how dumb the criminals are.
Hate to tell them, you know, it's like a scarecrow, so the crows don't eat the corn.
You got to still move the scarecrow around every few months, put new clothes on, or they learn it's not really a person.
You know, you go to Home Depot, you can buy owls and eagles and put them on your house so a bunch of birds don't sit on your roof or whatever.
You don't want a bunch of grackles, you know, attacking you when you're outside.
Or most people have water systems off their roofs.
We get water from the roof, but the buzzards sit on your house.
I used to live out in Dripping Springs and we had a rainwater collection system and there'd be like 10 buzzards sitting on the metal roof by the house and they crap and then the buzzard shit goes into your thing.
You don't want to do that.
It filters, but it wasn't good enough.
Well, buzzard's protected, so you can't shoot them with a shotgun.
So I just stuck owls up there, plastic owls, and they stopped coming.
And about six months later, all of a sudden, they're sitting around next to the owl because they figured out it's not alive because it's not moving.
You got to move the owl.
So look what Bukele's done in El Salvador, most dangerous country in the world now, save us in our hemisphere in just four years.
And they just put the corrupt judges in jail.
They put the gang leaders in jail.
They call him a dictator?
No, he's elected with 85% rate.
dan friesen
To be clear, Alex is saying that Trump needs to send National Guard and military into cities to terrorize the population in a rotating fashion so the criminals stay scared.
They need to keep the image of troops on the street fresh and alive in criminals' heads so they don't commit crimes.
And this is called leadership, not psychological warfare tactics that are employed by dictators.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I will say that Bukelli does have some suspiciously high approval ratings.
There's no way around the fact that he's putting up numbers you usually only see under occupation, but I think that if Trump keeps going the way he's going, he could top him.
jordan holmes
We're going to see those numbers.
dan friesen
He's got potential.
jordan holmes
I think he's going to get up to a 95 to 98% approval rating very soon.
dan friesen
I think that there might be some mathematical impossibilities in how popular Trump becomes.
jordan holmes
I would say that polling places should really get on board with the truth right now.
Otherwise, they're going to be really unhappy when they're publishing lies.
dan friesen
Trump is going to be huge in the under two-year-old set.
They're going to be very popular, baby.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Goose those numbers.
dan friesen
So we got to move on now, and it's time to, I don't know, fucking liberate Brazil.
alex jones
Now we got to liberate Brazil from the communists and all their election fraud.
So this is truly the return of the American Republic.
It was done very, very professionally and just absolutely amazing.
I am really stunned right now, but we got a lot of big adversaries, a lot of big things.
We're going to be watching to see what unfolds and what happens on that front.
Yeah, let's hear from Megs here.
I'm going to take a break.
I've been in here for an hour and a half, and I want to hit the boys' room.
And then I want to come back and talk about domestically what's unfolding, what we can expect next.
But this is really, really a big deal.
But just briefly, you understand that freedom isn't free.
You understand we're in a war with the globalists in the deep state.
And when you go to realaluxhows.com, that's a mirror.
It's the same shopping cart as thealexhore.com.
ThealeShowstore.com funds InfoWars that is embattled and we're not sure about its future.
And that's a whole other story.
And there's a state receiver.
They say they're going to have a sale, but it takes them forever.
And I don't know.
And it's crazy.
And it's great to support us at the Alexandro.com.
But all the same products, including a lot that sell out at the Alexandro.com, they hold back like knives and you name it.
Why does selection of Patriot Apparel?
I told them, I just want a straight-up Christian line of stuff, you know, just to promote Christ and let everybody know, hey, you're putting it in the middle of the temple.
We're Christians.
So hat of design, pretty simple, but nice.
It's all available at realalxjones.com.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're selling these knives to promote Christ.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
I mean, I just don't even know.
I mean, it speaks for itself.
Fucking prick.
jordan holmes
Baby, that's rough.
That's rough.
dan friesen
Let me put a little bit of ointment on you here.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because this next clip is kind of funny.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And I'll just give you a little bit of a heads up.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Alex confuses himself while listing off his fake companies that he needs to juggle things between.
And it's a little fun.
unidentified
That's fun.
alex jones
And again, there's a lot of items that have sold out at the auctionstore.com that are available right now at realauxhows.com.
Stuff that's sold out at the auctionstore.com.
Realjones.com.
And I need your support, folks.
We are matched out.
dan friesen
So I think that it's pretty clear what's going on based on what Alex has described, which is he got in trouble for never directing people to the Infowars store.com because he didn't have access to that money.
He was in the bankruptcy.
So now that is the real Alex.
No, the AlexJonesStore.com.
Big Lee runs that.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
But that money goes to InfoWars.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He doesn't get that money.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they probably don't get much of that money.
jordan holmes
Oh, almost certainly.
dan friesen
And so now there's a secondary page that has never sold out of stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They're trying to drive all the traffic to.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because look, dude, why would there need to be two identical sales pages with both having Alex's name in the URL if everything was cool and legit?
jordan holmes
It does feel unnecessary.
dan friesen
Yeah, shady as hell.
jordan holmes
I mean, even when Sears was going bankrupt, they didn't have like a bunch of different stores like Sears with two E's or Sears with three E's and an A, you know?
Like, at least they weren't doing that bad.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
This is past the scam threshold where it's funny now that people fall for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's entered Jim Baker singing about his food buckets territory where the shamelessness is almost an art.
Yeah.
And the fact that Alex can't keep these names straight in his head is very funny.
jordan holmes
It is.
It is because it suggests that if anyone were watching, they would be like, oh, well, we can just take it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
Like, if anybody in any form of law enforcement or anything bothered at all, they would listen to that and go, oh, well, thank God.
We just got a mob boss being like, we do crimes.
dan friesen
Yes.
If criminal exploration were to.
jordan holmes
Even slightly.
dan friesen
I think he'd be in trouble.
Yep.
So Alex wants to plug his shirts.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He sells a lot of cool shirts.
Unfortunately, I don't think he's ever gone to his shirt website before because he gets kind of mad when he sees how much bullshit there is on the website.
alex jones
Yeah, because there's just constant new shirts, constant new shirts.
You start scrolling through this, just showing what I'm talking about.
I mean, it's just absolutely crazy.
And it goes on.
We have all the Crusader stuff, the classic Americana stuff, the Trump stuff, the InfoWar stuff.
We have comedy stuff.
I mean, we have just all sorts of classy stuff.
We have the Gulf of America shirts.
I love that veteran of the InfoWar shirt right there.
I designed that.
It would be popular.
It's very popular.
They can come up with these things with my face on it.
Like, what is that stupid one right there?
I'm not mad at him, but come on.
What's that one right there?
What's that say?
No, no, the one next to it.
And what is this?
The truth?
And what is that?
unidentified
What is it?
alex jones
will shock you i'm not mad at them but like that's it's it like i say some of the best designs some of the most ridiculous hokey crap too Here, here, here.
I'm not mad whoever designed them.
Just go back.
Go back.
Go back to the front page.
I want to show the one next to it, though.
Wouldn't just go back to that page real quick.
What's the one right there?
Click that.
What is that?
I'm going to be honest with you.
This is intense.
And I'm like, the pictures with me on it don't sell well.
I don't know why they keep putting out.
Now, the one they did with me pointing the gun at somebody that's real, that's a good seller.
And I think that's cool.
dan friesen
That is cool.
That is real cool.
A shirt where it looks like Alex is pointing a gun at you.
jordan holmes
Sometimes I don't believe I'm alive.
Sometimes I truly believe I've been trapped in somebody else's dream.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucking Sandman style.
dan friesen
It's nuts.
It's legitimately nuts to be on the day that Alex is responding to Trump kidnapping Maduro.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Him justifying it.
Him celebrating it.
Wanting to expand the countries that Trump fucks with.
And then being like, man, my shirt company makes a lot of bullshit.
It's almost like this store is cluttered with garbage.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't even know.
I don't even know what to add.
dan friesen
Stuff with my face on it doesn't sell well because people don't like me.
jordan holmes
I mean, amazing.
dan friesen
People have a viscerally negative reaction to seeing me.
jordan holmes
Fucking real.
I would love to have imagined like Bob Barker doing a prize challenge and then just being like, we've got some amazing prizes.
That one's shit.
That was a real piece of shit.
I fucking hate that thing.
dan friesen
That showcase is.
jordan holmes
We've got so many great prizes today, but that vacuum cleaner is garbage.
dan friesen
Our producers just keep throwing who put that vacuum cleaner in there.
jordan holmes
You're fired!
dan friesen
It's almost like people running this trying to make quick buck.
jordan holmes
It's almost like it's not a legitimate long-term business.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex got a P, so he leaves, and I am not sold on these fucking shirts.
alex jones
These are just the newest ones this week.
That's what I'm telling you.
It's like 10 new shirts a week.
I love the Crusader stuff.
All right.
It's just insane.
Do they have a bestseller section?
Because that's the really cool ones.
I'm going to kill them.
All right.
I'm going to stop.
Let's play a few of these clips.
Here's Megs, you know, talking about how great Methylene Blue works for her.
Play a few more promos.
And I got to go pee-pee.
So if you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and let the seedy.
I'll be right back.
unidentified
Haha.
dan friesen
So Megs took Methylene Blue.
You're never going to believe this.
jordan holmes
How'd it go?
dan friesen
It was the shark.
jordan holmes
No way.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The Meg?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The Meg?
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Positive review.
jordan holmes
That is how it got so big.
Right?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
The Meg.
He was a big shark.
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Well, I vaguely remember that movie.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
So Alex pees after he does his little cute rhyme.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Shits on his own T-shirt store.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's.
dan friesen
And he comes back to sum things up.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay.
And ultimately, this was the only thing America could do.
It was the right thing to do and the only thing.
And hey, Congress could have stopped it if they wanted.
alex jones
I don't fawn off for military operations.
I don't like our military being under globalist control.
It's different now.
This is the reassertion of American sovereignty.
The globalist order fell apart.
China double-crossed America.
The EU, you know, try to start World War III.
This is the only path.
It's the smart path to keep American power, to relaunch the country.
And that's what Trump's doing.
And you can look at him on different issues and say he's not doing a perfect job.
And we get on him about that.
We try to dig the spurs in to get the administration going the way we want it.
But most of the so-called Patriot influencers, who are just that influencers, not historians, not real journalists, not analysts, not patriots, they know they're going to get boosted by all the Facebook, all these accounts, all big tech, if they bash Trump.
And so that's all they do is bash, bash, bash, acting like they're for Trump, acting like they're conservatives.
They're not.
Maduro captured Caracas bomb.
No congressional authorization.
Mexico City next.
Well, Congress had a chance to block it.
They didn't.
China slams U.S. hegemonic acts after strikes on Venezuela.
Well, it's a message to you with all your war games and drills saying you're about to invade Taiwan.
dan friesen
When could Congress have stopped Trump's attack on Venezuela?
jordan holmes
When they knew about it?
dan friesen
He just played Trump and Rubio clearly saying at the press conference that they couldn't tell Congress in advance because the mission was too secretive.
So at what point did they have oversight over this?
What's Alex even fucking talking about?
jordan holmes
Right now.
dan friesen
When Alex is reading headlines, his response to them isn't really analysis.
It's him pretending he's come up with a witty zinger that shut up the journalist who wrote the story that he didn't read.
He's sitting alone in a room roasting a wall and demanding that people treat him like he's Jesus.
And it's fucking tough guy bullshit that only works because no one's there.
jordan holmes
I mean, I understand if you're Trump, right?
You're rich.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You'll get richer.
You're old.
Nothing can really bother you.
You're going to die soon.
Whether you've destroyed the world or not, you're still going to die soon.
dan friesen
You have certainly cucked Congress.
jordan holmes
Right.
I don't get it for everybody else who's under the age of, I don't know, let's call it 85 and is not rich.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't get any part of being like, well, this is okay.
unidentified
I don't get it.
dan friesen
And I especially think that people who are in our age cohort are particularly distasteful.
Yeah.
Because you cannot have come up and grown up in a world where your formative years involved 9-11 and then the Iraq war.
You cannot have that happen and watch this and be like, ah, it's cool.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's cool.
And Alex made his career, his bread and butter, his name on 9-11 and opposition to the Iraq war, ostensible opposition to the Iraq war.
And you just can't, you just can't do that.
You can't do this.
It's pathetic.
jordan holmes
I get it if you're, I get like 20-year-old Nazis like Fuentes.
You know, it's exciting and it's fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you don't know anything and you're fucking kicking Tucker Carlson's ass.
So why not?
You know, go for it.
Have your fun.
But man, if you're a 40-year-old man and you are fine with anything that's going on right now, 50 like Alex, yeah.
Yeah.
What world did you, what world have you lived in?
dan friesen
Yeah, you're insane.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex's conclusion is basically like, we need more of this shit.
And domestically.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
But not like kidnapping people domestically.
Like, let's just let Trump take over the government.
alex jones
Great.
We need to see more of this domestically, the same energy.
And I don't mean helicopters raiding Democrats and giving them, you know, rides.
jordan holmes
What do I do?
alex jones
You know, like you've seen happen in Latin America, the Pinochet.
I'm talking about getting rid of the filibuster the Democrats say they're going to get rid of and pack the Supreme Court and do everything else.
They're going to make the move if they're able to get the Senate.
If Trump gets rid of the filibuster, which he wants to do, and Thunder has been blocking it, we can go in and not pack the Supreme Court and do things like that, but pass all the laws and regulations we want to really dismantle the deep state and the globalists.
So now is the time to have that same energy you see from Trump, where you got a military that will do what he says domestically through the Justice Department.
That's why the people at the top, we know we're bad, need to be replaced and replaced yesterday.
And that's why you, the listeners, need to realize that we're winning the battles, but not the war yet.
And that's why it's so vital that you not be demoralized if you understand with Trump, we've got a real chance at turning this around.
The globalists are in full retreat right now.
So let's press the attack.
And Kennedy's doing such great work at Tulsa Gabbards, the border, all of it.
It's amazing.
We criticize the bad.
We promote the good, but it's night and day as I say goodbye to the Democrats.
But I need your support.
These are great products.
I need the funds.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
This is almost the opposite of yesterday, huh?
No need for a plan B now.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Trump's not, you know, we can't.
We can solve this with a battle box now.
jordan holmes
I mean, now he's a wartime president ultimately.
And I think we all have to be behind him, right?
Now, I mean, sure.
Things were different yesterday.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But now he's magically become a brand new person.
Today was the day he became president.
dan friesen
Definitely.
Definitely.
And Alex probably knew about this a long time ago, and he was just.
jordan holmes
But he couldn't leak it to anybody.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Just like Marco Rubio said, you can't leak this information.
dan friesen
Congress can't be trusted.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But Alex can.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
To be clear, I don't think Alex knew shit.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
Man, I do love that.
I do love that.
That's such old school imperial thinking of like, oh, well, we can't pull this information off if Congress knows about it.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Never does it go, then I guess we can't do it.
We can't.
dan friesen
You better have a damn good explanation for why you needed to do it.
It's got to be like top tier.
unidentified
I mean, amazing.
dan friesen
So Alex has made peace with war, and good for him.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And now he's going to leave the show, but he's also going to play a little funny video that he made.
Fun insulting Candace Owens.
jordan holmes
Good.
Good.
I'm glad that's how we're closing this.
dan friesen
No, you're not.
jordan holmes
With a little sweetener.
dan friesen
No, you're not.
Because it unfortunately is one of the cruelest pieces of gaslighting I've heard in a long time.
alex jones
And then I want to cut to a piece I did last night as a joke.
And I said it was satire in the video.
Where I play this game of, oh, I got a witness that was at the military base and they saw this meeting happen with no evidence.
You can say anything.
It's not an attack on Candace Owens.
I like Candace a lot in the past.
And I've said I believe there's a cover up in Charlie Kirk's murder and I've exposed it.
You know, Cash Bell ordered don't look at accomplices.
But I knew no was a fraud.
This is what you can meaning didn't happen.
And so I called it out and I was proven right again.
But I'm giving you the example of what you can do and just say, you saw this, you saw that with no proof, and just accuse a bunch of innocent people of being involved in assassinations.
And then say, oh, you weren't really saying that before.
And say, if anybody that questions me, you're a massage agent.
And then now that she's got heat on it, she's like, hey, everybody, be nice.
I'm just asking questions.
Just because the corporate media lies, Democrats lie.
We can't become them.
dan friesen
You can't say stuff like that and not be keenly aware that that's your entire business model.
And I don't have patience for that.
There's a lot of bullshit I'll put up with and listen to him say, but this is, well, to resurrect something from our past, it's a brick-in.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
There's no other way around it.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nope.
That is that to see the word brazen so expertly applied.
dan friesen
She's doing the thing that I do.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
I'm going to make a satire video about how she's doing the thing that I always do.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
You can just make stuff up and have people make accusations about people.
And then when you don't want to take responsibility for it, you can say, I was just asking questions.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can.
You know, you sure can.
dan friesen
Some family members who might have some questions for you about that.
jordan holmes
I'm so demoralized.
This has been one of the worst.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
You know, I apologize before we recorded.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
We had a very nice half-hour conversation about the traders.
jordan holmes
We had a lovely time.
dan friesen
And I apologize.
jordan holmes
And we haven't talked for a week because we've both been sick, and I'm still coming out of it.
And then, you know, blindsided me with this.
dan friesen
But we had to because this happened and it's insane.
jordan holmes
It sure is.
dan friesen
And now more insane shit has happened since then.
And it's going to be bad for a minute.
jordan holmes
It's going to be bad for a tick.
dan friesen
Yep.
So anyway, Alex is completely abandoned.
I mean, we've already said this.
He's abandoned everything.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes
No, this is an escalation.
This is a new evolution of straight-up warmongering.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That is like, it was fine whenever you're fake warring.
dan friesen
It was building with the justification of the Venezuelan boat attacks.
Right, right, right.
Like this was growing until it popped.
jordan holmes
Right.
But at no point in time was it also like, and you know what?
Let's take over the southern hemisphere.
You know, at no point did we get there.
Now we're full on, like, hey, let's colonialize everybody.
Well, I want Australia back.
dan friesen
Alex has given lip service to like supporting the Monroe doctrine, gunboat diplomacy, and this kind of shit.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But it is a lot different when you kidnap a world leader.
jordan holmes
You want to buy Greenland?
Buy Greenland.
You don't kidnap Greenland.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or all of Denmark.
Yeah, it's belligerent.
Like I said, it's a mess.
And who knows what the consequences of it are going to be?
And Alex seems thrilled.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Fuck that dude.
Anyway, we'll be back for another awful episode, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
DVDs Alexvike.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
alex jones
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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