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Oct. 13, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1084: October 9, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see Alex's response to Trump announcing that he is an enemy of free speech, and are shocked to find that there is way more hat throwing involved than expected.

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alex jones
23:27
d
dan friesen
47:48
j
jordan holmes
28:14
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d
donald j trump
01:00
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harrison smith
01:33
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pam bondi
00:05
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tommy tuberville
00:50
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andy in kansas
00:05
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
And I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
donald j trump
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy and Panzer.
And being in Panzer.
Andy in Pansh.
And Andy.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Pansha.
andy in kansas
Hello, Alex.
I'm a thick thing calling a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.com.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex James.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
Which bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is actually a dark spot.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I'm pointing at you.
jordan holmes
Yes, I see this.
dan friesen
It's a dark spot, and it's me.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Remember that?
It's a bit.
I did something that I thought was going to be revolutionary this week.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Um I I've put the cereal industry on notice.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I've told them that they're out of line with all this crazy cereals that they're making, like the fruit loops with marshmallows.
They're combining things that don't need to be combined.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I was at the store and I saw Coco Pebbles right next to Fruity Pebbles.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I realized they haven't mixed those yet.
But I could.
I was gonna strike first.
unidentified
They have never sold a combined cocoa and fruity pebbles.
dan friesen
And it's just begging to be combined.
So I did it.
And it's bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, baby.
unidentified
You feel so good when the idea hits you.
dan friesen
And you're like, I'm gonna change the game.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you.
dan friesen
I'm gonna be the one who does it.
They said you can't.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I'll do it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Um, and the it turns out the reason that they don't do it is because it's bad.
It does they don't work together well.
They have conflicting flavors, they do different things to the milk.
It's just bad.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I feel ashamed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I hate to say it, but uh, I think you've had an experience that a lot of people have had ever since the Pebbles first came out.
The though, like no one will ever see this frontier if I don't cross it first.
And sometimes you shouldn't cross the frontier.
dan friesen
Yeah, but now we're living in a world where these barriers are being broken down day by day.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Fruit loops with marshmallows in them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
I know, I get you.
I get you.
But sometimes you push into space and sometimes you reach the event horizon of a black hole.
You're not coming out, man.
But you can go so many different places in space, but not out of a black hole.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Staying in there.
dan friesen
I also watched uh episode four of MacGyver.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And uh How's he doing?
Two kisses.
jordan holmes
Two kisses.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Same same person.
Okay, but that's still it counts for two.
jordan holmes
It does.
dan friesen
So we're up to six.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Um, he had to get a photojournalist out of a Central American country that I think was Guatemala, but they did not specify.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's smart.
dan friesen
Um, and uh there's a uh uh sort of a dictatory kind of guy who's working with an arms dealer who has a past with MacGyver.
And so she has uncovered proof that these two are working together, and MacGyver's gotta get her out of the country, and she is like, no, I gotta get pictures of them doing an arms deal.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he goes along for the ride.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
And then tries to get her out of the country.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
It's uh it's fun.
jordan holmes
And then they kiss.
dan friesen
I think it's implied they might have fucked too.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So that's the first fuck implication.
jordan holmes
That's a pretty exciting situation.
I don't think anybody could blame them for being like, we got out of uh an unnamed Central American country escaping a arms dealer and a dictator.
Let's fuck it out.
dan friesen
Oh no, no.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They fuck before they get out.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Maybe that uh what if do we know their marital status?
Is it I mean, assumab assumably MacGyver is single.
dan friesen
Yeah, he lives in a planetarium, I think.
So yeah, he's single.
jordan holmes
He does what?
Does he live in a planetarium?
dan friesen
I think so.
unidentified
I'm not sure.
dan friesen
In the first episode, he was showing uh like his little brother from the little brother big brother program.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Not his actual little brother.
jordan holmes
No, no, I understand.
I understand.
dan friesen
He's showing him around his place, and there's like a fucking telescope.
But it looks it's like I don't I don't know.
They haven't really established his living situation fully yet.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Um, but he's single.
He's gotta be single.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Um she was single.
Yeah, I think.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
They uh had escaped from the militia, the Guatemalan militia, uh uh, by stealing a school bus.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then had driven it accidentally into a river um and had escaped on foot and had set a little fire uh to for the night.
jordan holmes
I mean, that seemed that appears sexy storytelling wise, but I bet that they smelled so bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
But then my guy ever catches a lizard for them to have for dinner.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
And she's like, I'm not eating lizard, and then she loves it.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And she's like, You want to lie down?
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, hey.
dan friesen
The people are still chasing them.
There's there's no there's no safety.
jordan holmes
That is like that is what I think somebody who had studied sociological evolution would be like, that's probably what it was like at the beginning, you know.
Everybody's like, ah, I don't like you, then you make them a lizard, then you fuck, and then you have a kid, and then society happens.
That's basically how it goes.
dan friesen
Right.
This is the archetypal story of MacGyver.
jordan holmes
MacGyver is is the sex at dawn uh uh of uh of our time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm still enjoying this.
I can't I can't get enough.
jordan holmes
Keep going.
dan friesen
It's great.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So what about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Um my bright spot is uh my dog Sonny, uh my beautiful little angel of a pup.
dan friesen
Wonderful.
jordan holmes
Uh she's been having some skin problems.
dan friesen
A little itchy.
jordan holmes
Been uh been a real struggle to handle uh her skin issues, been a real struggle to hand her her her attitude issues, but those are completely separate.
dan friesen
You don't think the itching is contributing to the two.
jordan holmes
In fact, since we've got the itching under control, the toot has gotten far worse.
It's almost as if she was distracted from being an asshole by how much itching she was doing.
Uh so yeah, but today, uh, as I was sitting in the shower, I was giving her a little bath with her medicated shampoo.
Uh, and we have to you have to have the shampoo on there for like ten minutes.
Can't can't be can't be nine minutes thirty.
Uh it's gotta be ten minutes at least.
dan friesen
This is science.
jordan holmes
Right.
And so we're sitting in the shower.
I've cut the shower off, and I'm in the shower with her, sitting next to her, she's covered in her soap, and we're just watching a little uh show uh for about ten minutes.
And I don't I mean, it seems silly, it seems stupid, but I'm sitting in there with my uh shampoo covered dog, and I'm just thinking this is great.
This is good life.
This is good.
I just loved it.
dan friesen
That's the definition of those little moments.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
It was awesome.
dan friesen
And it's so fun that you can sort of pretend that the the dog cares about the show.
You know?
jordan holmes
I'm just I mean, we're I'm sitting there because I here's the the schedule is I take my shower and then I just go grab her and bring her into the shower with me.
So we're so I'm just sitting here on this little edge, naked next to my sh we're both soap covered, watching a little thing.
Just my arm around her, having a great time.
dan friesen
Well, that's sweet.
jordan holmes
It's beautiful.
dan friesen
Now that's man at his primal.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Sanging out naked with your dog.
jordan holmes
Medicated shampooing your your dog.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So uh Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We're gonna be talking about October 9th, 2025.
jordan holmes
Twenty twenty-five.
dan friesen
Talking about Alex's uh next day after Trump's bullshit press conference.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean I I bet he did great.
dan friesen
Oh, so good.
jordan holmes
I bet he was great.
dan friesen
So good.
Um so we're gonna uh talk about that and uh how terrible it is and how he should be ashamed.
But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Stabo and the Ouija's would be a great band name.
Lots of love from RWRAA down under.
Thank you so much.
You're now Policywonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Uh next, attention, people burned by 40k.
There's a new grim dark war game in town called Trench Crusade and all the rules are free online.
All hail to the Iron Sultanate.
Thank you so much.
You're now policy walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And shout out to the uh recent new daddy Willie G. Sully is gonna have the best father ever.
At least you beat Silksong and returned to parental, or at least after you beat Silksong and returned to parental duties.
Uh thanks for being a great friend and turning me on to the show.
Thank you so much.
You're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I said uh you beat Silksong, and then I had to double back because I feel like Nobody's beat Silk Song.
Not anybody who has any other responsibilities.
I hear that game is hard as shit.
jordan holmes
That is what I have heard.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And we got techno credit mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to uh honestly.
Please just use the name Owen Troyer.
Thank you so much, you and Iowa Technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four time.
alex jones
Go on to your mind and tell you brilliant.
Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb bom, bump, bump, bump.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action.
unidentified
He's a loser, little little kitty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So uh we're gonna go over this episode, but uh I have an out of context drop uh for you today.
alex jones
All right.
You're so screwed, New World Order.
I got the Mexican food restaurant giving me free balls of soup.
You're screwed, you fucked.
dan friesen
I got soup.
jordan holmes
I've never heard better evidence for anything ever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
David Rockefeller is in his grave trembling.
I mean because Alex is getting soup.
jordan holmes
I would accept that as an explanation for the reason anyone should be scared about anything.
Oh man, the Brewers are probably struggling.
They're not gonna win against the Dodgers.
I'm getting free soup.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's all over.
jordan holmes
Works for me.
dan friesen
So in our last episode, we experienced the Trump administration doing a propaganda event about Antifa and witnessed Tucker Carlson clumsily pretend to have just discovered that he feels scared of immigrants.
It was a colossal shit show, and the messaging around it was very clear.
The goal was to present people in cities like Chicago and Portland as being so far past the point of saving that the only option left is for the federal government to occupy them and take over their law enforcement.
Along with that, we heard Trump say something that should immediately disqualify him from holding the office that he's in.
To refresh everyone, here is a comment that he made about flag burning and his position on that being free speech.
donald j trump
Only days ago, Nick Sortor was assaulted in Portland by a flag burning mob, and we've uh made it uh one year penalty for inciting riots.
Uh, we took the freedom of speech away because that's been through the courts, and the courts said you have freedom of speech, but what what has happened is when they burn a flag, it agitates and irritates crowds.
They've never seen anything like it on both sides, and you end up with riots, so we're going on that basis.
We're looking at it from not from the freedom of speech, which I always felt strongly about, but never passed the courts.
Uh, this is what they do is they incite when you burn an American flag, you incite tremendous violence.
We have many examples of it.
dan friesen
The president was saying that the courts recognize and have upheld flag burning as a protected form of free speech, but that he disagrees, so he's gonna put people in jail for it.
This is tyrant shit.
This is the very behavior Alex has pretended folks like Obama and Bush were engaging in.
So it feels like he should be very worried about the safety of the Bill of Rights.
It's important when discussing something like this to be clear about people's positions.
If Trump was saying that flag burning isn't free speech, and Alex agreed with that position, then it would be silly for me to expect Alex to see this as a major violation of the Constitution.
So, in order to make sure that we establish what Alex Jones believes about this issue, let's hear him discuss this from over the years.
Let's start in 2003.
alex jones
I don't like burning the flag.
I hate those that burn it because they hate America because they're burning it for you know for uh uh for wrong reasons.
But I will defend the right to burn it because it's the first amendment.
The soul of what that flag is, what it represents, the first amendment says I can burn that flag.
dan friesen
So Alex understands that not being allowed to burn the flag is a transgression of what the freedom the flag symbolizes is he understands this paradox.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would not you know, the more I think about it, the more I think if I'm gonna change my position on something twenty years later, embarrassingly, don't use the word soul.
That one's real damning in in retrospect when you say the soul of the thing.
Yeah, you're really gonna struggle later on whenever you uh piss in it.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But maybe you know, you know, it was just that was what he thought in 2003.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Here's 2005.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
House okay's ban on flag burning, though.
The flag symbolizes the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, America, the veterans that have fought and died for this country.
The flag itself is not those rights.
And I do not like people that burn the American flag.
Most of them are misguided idiots.
I do not uh appreciate it.
But I'm not an emotional idiot.
And I will fight for their right to burn that flag.
I will fight for their right to do it because it's under the First Amendment.
And when you arrest somebody for burning that flag, ladies and gentlemen, what you are in uh sense doing is burning the first amendment.
You're actually burning the soul of that flag.
dan friesen
Uh oh, the soul is here again.
jordan holmes
Oh man, you gotta years later.
You gotta not use the word.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You gotta not use the word.
dan friesen
He seems pretty consistent on this.
And you know, obviously it's like a I don't like these people, but if fuck you, I'm gonna defend to the death your right to say these things I don't like.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's one of the classic American things to say whenever you're not telling the truth, is to be like, I disagree with you, but I would defend your right to disagree with me from my life.
dan friesen
I'm gonna quote Voltaire at you.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So here's Alex in 2010, going even further.
Defending people's right to not only burn the flag, but holy texts.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Listen, I don't like burning the Bible or Korean thing else.
It's disrespectful.
But it's the right of free people to do it.
I don't like burning the American flag.
But I've got to defend people's right to do it, because if you take their right, well then this radio show doesn't have a first amendment right, does it?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's yep.
dan friesen
It doesn't.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
You're right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Uh uh.
jordan holmes
That's how rights work.
dan friesen
But all of this, these these clips that I've played so far, this is all pre Trump.
However, in 2016, Alex was still unchanged on this issue.
alex jones
I had Jesse Ventura calling me this morning out of the town to call him back, going, Oh, there's your hero, Trump, Alex, calling for arrested people to burn the American flag.
And I was just thinking, you're supporting I don't want to get a fight with Ventura, but give me a break, man.
You're supporting Ventura that killed hundreds of thousands.
I mean you're supporting Fidel Castro, Ventura.
You're saying he's a great guy.
I don't support arresting people that flag burn because it's their first amendment.
Okay.
And once you do that, you can ban all the free speech.
dan friesen
So in 2016, Alex was uh hearing pushback from people like Jesse Ventura that Trump wanted to arrest people who burn the flag.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's in denial about that being something that Trump wants.
And he's clear that if you do that, then all free speech is up for grabs.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Um, and so that is after he has fully adopted Trump as his leader.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So here's him in 2019.
alex jones
And I want to be clear.
You have a right to burn the American flag.
People fought and died for the rights that flag symbolizes.
I don't like it.
It disgust me.
But we shouldn't be incited to attack them when they do it.
It's what they want.
dan friesen
He was uniformly disgusted by people burning the flag, and he didn't like them.
But he recognized that it was their right to do it, and encroaching on that right threatened all of the other aspects of free speech.
Through the ups and downs of his stupid career, Alex has understood that flag burning is the paradox that represents the test of freedom.
And it's to his credit that he didn't just take the easy conservative patriot uh position.
He could have easily been the guy who was like, No, I don't believe that it's free speech.
The courts have ruled that it is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I would like to advocate that we change that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because you can change the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
That's how laws work.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
The Supreme Court decides these things, and then that's our definition.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In that last clip from 2019, Alex even rebuts Trump's supposed reason for arresting people who burn flags, which is that it incites people.
Alex understands and dismisses this as a justification for banning protected speech, which is the correct take to have.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Don't oh, the problem is that you're getting incited by this.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Not that this is inciting.
jordan holmes
No, it's the yeah.
dan friesen
Your response is the problem if you're gonna go punch someone who's burning a flag.
jordan holmes
People need to be protected from themselves.
dan friesen
By the standards of Alex's political positions, as documented by his career, at least over the past twenty two years, you have to believe that he thinks an attempt to ban flag burning is an attack on free speech.
He thinks that about a bill that would b ban flag burning.
So you can only imagine how much more tyrannical He would think a president just decreeing that it was now illegal while admitting that the courts wouldn't let him do it because of free speech.
Uh so he just ignored them would be.
That's so much worse than someone putting a bill through Congress.
jordan holmes
It would be hard to have an argument in a courtroom uh and for them to play that where you go, I know what they'd say if I said I'm banning your free speech.
So I won't say that.
We just say I'm doing something else and take away your free speech.
That would be very difficult to come back from.
dan friesen
We ignored the free speech angle of this free speech issue because the free speech of it would get in the way of me doing what I want to do.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Huh.
jordan holmes
Feigning ignorance is probably not gonna work after you just say, I want to take away free speech.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Feigning ignorance after you confess is impossible.
jordan holmes
It is very difficult.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Trump's press conference was on the eighth.
So today we're gonna look at Alex's show from the ninth, where one should expect him to be sounding the loudest alarms about how Trump has overturned the Constitution and all patriots who have sworn an oath to uphold it must act.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Um we'll see.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We'll see.
We'll see what his tone is like.
jordan holmes
I'm I'm excited to see the Patriots uh overthrow the Capitol.
That'll be interesting.
dan friesen
Here's where we start.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's Thursday, October 9th, 2025.
unidentified
Trump has declared anti-fut international terror organization.
jordan holmes
There it is.
alex jones
Prepare an insurrection act.
You want to go to war with it each day?
Info wars.
Tomorrow's news.
unidentified
Today.
dan friesen
So I guess Alex doesn't care too much about that free speech thing.
I get that Alex is very invested in Trump's power grab, and he sees uh Trump dictatorship as preferable to a liberal democracy, but this is a complete abandonment of him even trying to keep up appearances.
This is a guy who is legit living like there's no tomorrow.
On the surface, this behavior looks like full commitment, but it what it really is is a guy who's given up.
He used to pretend to operate from principles, and now he's just a state propagandist, so long as the state is Trump.
As far as being an interesting media figure, he has retired.
Like, this is a person who does not give a shit about like what these positions mean for the future, what they mean for the past.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is all in service of defending and accruing the power that he feels associated with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think it's more it's interesting to see somebody on the way up who is hiding these true positions.
Um because at the very least they're engaging with a I don't know, uh uh a need to obtain something.
You know, so the subterfuge has its own purpose.
Yeah.
It is somebody who is doing something to obtain something for a whatever reason that they have, right?
Now all of this stuff is a waste.
There's just no okay, fine, you're you're doing this, but it's not even achieving the the goal of being a state propagandist.
Nobody's even like coming to your side or even believing things differently.
They're just going, look at this guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's it.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex is just trying to hold on, kind of.
And it's holding on to the wrong thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think, but I I I feel like it is an indication of him just not caring.
Like, I think he recognizes that he's sunk his own ship.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's whatever the state courts and all that shit, however, that ends up playing out is not gonna go in his favor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's gonna be an ability to hold on to something and and and run some level of supplement company by screaming about dumb shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But like it doesn't it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
And he's probably finally starting to feel the loss of Owen Schreuer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he's probably it's probably breaking his heart.
dan friesen
Later he talks about Owen.
And I didn't I didn't include this clip because I just thought it was kind of dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he's like uh talking about how uh like he he's pulling for him and he's like what?
Yeah, he makes some dishy aside about like I can't get his microphones to work, uh, but I hope he does good.
And that's like, okay, you're watching his show.
You know he has like tech problems.
You it just indicated a level of madness that he he shouldn't give up, he shouldn't show.
jordan holmes
This is a great it's great to watch people unravel.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
Uh so I think that Alex, when I say he's retired and basically just coasting at this point, it's because he's being thrown the softest of softballs imaginable for a guy who's suspicious about the federal government and cares about the Bill of Rights.
The whole Epstein thing was a good off-ramp for most conspiracy theorists if they wanted to maintain a little dignity, but I would consider this to be the last exit on the highway.
If you're not off by now, you're done.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
There's nothing left for you but this path.
This is the path that you're on, and you can't get off.
You will never get off.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't I don't see any way that you could even attend to any of your previous bullshit about tyrants and blood on the tree.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like give up.
You love that shit.
Blood on the tree isn't gonna happen.
You're having a grand time.
Fuck off.
dan friesen
You've abandoned and given up on whatever it was that you were building, the pretense of your brand.
And the people who are worse than you don't want you.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Because they already think that you're, you know, working for Israel or some shit.
So like got nothing.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Except for this.
Just stay on whatever this path is.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Gross.
dan friesen
And I think that uh when you're in this kind of position, maybe you just kind of go through the motions.
alex jones
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And the answer to 1984 is 1776.
And as I've told the globalists for at least 20 years.
But if you want to fight, you better believe you got one.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
dan friesen
It's like a catchphrase comic.
Like this is a get her done shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's three catchphrases in a row.
jordan holmes
And it does it feels he feels very announcery.
He you know, it bat you could you could push a little bit of real into your voice, you know, instead of being like, and next coming up to the floor on the price is right.
dan friesen
But it's hard to deliver those catchphrases in any kind with any kind of sincerity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You kind of have to do that.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
You're Chicago Bulls starting lineup.
jordan holmes
You might be a patriot.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So uh Trump, he uh declared Antifa an international terrorist group, sure, which may or may not be official.
jordan holmes
Which nations?
dan friesen
All of them.
jordan holmes
All of them.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I was actually very interested.
So they're an international terrorist organization where what's their base of operations out of?
dan friesen
Anywhere.
You know how like he is shooting these boats out of the water because they're quote unquote allegedly cartel boats.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Same thing.
jordan holmes
Anybody, yeah, it could be any could be anybody, really.
Could be almost like uh just a pretense to then choose whoever you want to hurt.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex is into it.
And uh at the meeting where they were discussing this at Trump's press conference, his ex-employee, Savannah Hernandez was there.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And uh Alex discusses how uh uh she probably would still be working for InfoWars if he wasn't a flagrant sexist.
alex jones
Well, Trump two weeks ago declared anti-fa a domestic terror organization, which they are by the very definition, and today they declared it to the State Department, an international transnational terror organization, and that's got the real teeth in it.
And of course, we know exactly who's been funding it the whole time.
We know who created it.
It is a communist network that goes back actually to the 20s in Germany, and it is funded by Soros, the CIA, USAID, uh billionaires in Europe, and now we have the Justice Department giving briefings in a long conference yesterday at the White House with our own former reporter, Savannah Hernandez and others, victims of physical attacks.
You know, Savannah quit on friendly terms.
Well, was it four years ago?
Because we had her security.
We got six people.
And they would still beat her and punch her in the face and pull her hair and throw bottles at her.
And we said, Savannah, I said, So, you know, I I cannot send you into the middle of Antifa.
I said, I go into their groups in an armored vehicle and they jump up on it with hammers and attack it.
We have footage of that.
She said, Well, I quit.
And you know, look, she's got courage.
Uh I love her to death.
dan friesen
Apparently not.
I can't let you do this because you're a little lady.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to view that as being said in any other way.
I mean, he could have ended it with sweetheart.
That would have been nice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
She quit because you are a sexist asshole who doesn't believe that women could do the same things as men.
jordan holmes
You need to stay inside.
Uh and uh boy, things need to be cleaned.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that what he's expressing is that like uh Savannah was pretty successful, and the uh she's been more successful since leaving InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And she probably could have stayed if uh she was.
jordan holmes
If I'd given her the wings?
dan friesen
Yeah, if I or I could have like clipped them.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
She never would have flown.
jordan holmes
I could have really made this hard, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
God, what an asshole.
jordan holmes
He's a piece of shit.
dan friesen
So um Antifa is obviously an international terrorist group.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And one of the ways we can tell this is that people who are pha in other countries are being killed.
alex jones
And when they call you a Nazi, well then they dehumanize you.
Oh, you know, it's okay to punch a Nazi, and and and that's why they do that.
And now it's upwards of twenty AFD politicians that were winning in state elections.
It was just six or seven a few weeks ago.
In the last few months, twenty of them.
Sure, it's more haven't looked in a week.
Magically die in Germany.
dan friesen
So Alex is making this news up, and the magical word there is a little bit I mean, s some people are just old.
jordan holmes
They do magically die, though, because they are non-existent.
dan friesen
So this story hasn't changed from the last time he's reported on seven deaths of AFD candidates, but some time has passed.
So he decided that he needs to bump the number up to keep the story interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, more people have obviously had to be dying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there was a headline that he's probably basing this off of, though, which was news about Iris Sultzer, or Stalzer, who's the newly elected mayor of Herdike who is stabbed in her own home, but survived.
This could be another case of some shadowy conspiracy against AFD politicians.
But like I said, she survived.
So she was able to tell police what happened.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
She was stabbed by her 17-year-old daughter.
From the information that's been reported so far, it appears that there was some kind of a family fight that got out of hand.
And it's possible that the daughter won't even face serious charges.
She called for an ambulance after doing the stabbing, so the authorities don't seem to think that she was looking to kill.
And there might not even be like obviously there's not going to be I don't even think there's gonna be an attempted murder kind of uh prosecution.
jordan holmes
However, people need to deal with uh interfamily stabbings is up to them.
I have it's not my choice.
Yep.
dan friesen
This is not some kind of targeted political attack against the German far right.
This is a domestic situation that's being exploited by people like Alex to create the appearance that people with his politics are under attack, which is justification for the horrible things that they plan to do to the rest of us.
And it's that's that's all this is.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And uh it's you know, it's unfortunate that this you know woman had this domestic situation in Germany, but it wouldn't be relevant at all if people like Alex weren't trying to build a case.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think it's I think it's interesting.
The the way that they do that is the the like, oh, when they call you a Nazi, they do it to dehumanize you in a in a kind of mirror image of the way that they dehumanize everybody who's not white.
Right.
But in reality, the reason why it's okay to punch a Nazi is because they have been humanized.
This is a person who has made a choice to do a thing.
Now there are consequences for that thing.
This is not dehumanizing somebody by calling them a cockroach, an animal that has no choice, but is just it just is or is not.
There's nothing you can do about their behaviors.
dan friesen
Yeah, being a Nazi is not an inalienable trait.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can change your fucking mind.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're wrong.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's how it works.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And pretending that you deserve any say is uh allowing for violence to be carried out on other people.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
No, we uh we are now no longer uh buddies.
That's why you can say whatever the fuck you want, and I'm still going to punch you.
dan friesen
It could happen.
jordan holmes
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit about uh black shirts and brown shirts.
Great during uh the lead up to World War II.
jordan holmes
That's gonna help.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think he's a little uh muddy.
I don't know what's going on here.
alex jones
And I I remember going to protest 29 or 28 years ago, and I was just wondering about Antifa.
Steve Mason, local talk show host, explained it to me, because he'd been brought up at Quaker and a communist, so he knew all about it.
David's still around, that guy's amazing.
He explained to me all about Antifa then, and they would come over to me just because I was having a pro private property demonstration or pro demonstration, they'd say, You know, when we take over, we're gonna kill you.
jordan holmes
Weird way to start.
alex jones
And their leadership are professors and NGOs, but down below it, they hire all these thugs and people, and it is the equivalent of Hitler's brown shirts.
Well, in Germany, he was fighting the communist that had their black shirts, and that was Antifa.
So it's not that Hitler's brown shirts are good, it's that both were bad, both different flavors of totalitarianism.
But look up the history of Antifa.
That's where it comes from is out of Germany.
Even pre Hitler.
And it was them running around with their reign of terror that actually got the Germans behind Hitler and the brown shirts to fight them off.
That's why the left treated Proud Boys like Nazis because they saw them as historically a right wing resistance to them, though the Proud Boys were not like Hitler, they were a unifier.
But that's why they got called a domestic terror group and never actually officially made one.
dan friesen
So I think that Alex is uh a little a little bit uh convoluted and maybe into the Nazi side of things.
jordan holmes
Seems like it.
dan friesen
But also, I think at the end there, he kind of makes a point that he should think about, which is the evil Obama Biden regime didn't make the Proud Boys an international terrorist group.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
Why wouldn't they have if they were uh all the things that Alex believes them to be?
They're working for the devil.
You know what the devil's known for?
Restraint.
jordan holmes
I I mean listen.
There are unwritten rules.
dan friesen
Cosmic law.
jordan holmes
There's intergalactic space.
You have to you have to put it in a movie first.
And then it but na that that they didn't do that.
dan friesen
Oh, Alex is gonna talk about a movie in a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh god, I knew it.
I knew it.
dan friesen
Uh, but it's notable here that Alex seems to be on the same page with people like Jack Pasobic and Tucker with the messaging about how Hitler's rise to power was an understandable response to the decadence and communism in Germany.
There is uh an angle.
Alex is not pushing it as hard as someone like Jack Pasobic was.
Yeah.
But they there is a message unity.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that they're all collaborating or anything like that, but there is uh something scary about this being a common thought that they have.
jordan holmes
I I find it interesting.
These people cannot understand like they can't understand the concept of Antifa being just a generalized anti-fascism.
We are against fashion.
And it didn't it didn't start in Germany.
It started a thousand years ago, whenever somebody was like, hey, no more kings telling me what to do.
Why would I listen to a fucking king?
Like it just goes, it's the same thing.
This asshole up there with a shit ton of money is telling me what to do, and I don't want to.
Like that's it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So um Alex is uh, you know, clearly putting himself as some kind of a heroic figure in this street fight that's gonna happen between various colored shirts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and imaginary people.
dan friesen
Um and so like it excited me that he teased what's coming up later in the show.
alex jones
I I I have a former firefighter who I've known about for a long time, who then discovered that people are being implanted covertly with microchips.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
alex jones
And now you you see it coming out, and now they have the nanotech and the Pfizer shots and the rest of it, the self amplifying, the self replicating.
And he's going around with major institutions around the world, including even with the parliament of the EU and and scanning people that have been vaccinated versus this, and it's it it's incredible.
And he can tell you with these expensive hand helmets are like 20 grand.
He's got like hundred thousand dollar devices.
Does he have they looked at tell what's going on and explaining, folks?
You think of a parasite as a worm in your belly, and then that could be that time.
You think of a microchip as you know, something the size of rice.
No, no.
This is nanotech that's both biological self-replicating and silicon self-replicating.
And this is a major transhumanist rollout, and he's got the documents.
And he scanned my buddy Sean Johnson on his podcast and found specifically where there are these silicon clusters in in key places in his body.
Of course, he keeps finding special operations, particularly with this going on.
And uh we went for a hike this morning.
I said, Why don't you just come on the show today?
We're gonna leave town a few hours.
He held his flight till tomorrow.
I told you to come in in the uh fourth hour today, and he's gonna present some of the data, the science.
This isn't kook stuff, this is real stuff, and then he's gonna uh scan Johnson again on air, and then I haven't been scanned yet, I'm gonna get scanned.
dan friesen
Oh man.
Now keep in mind this isn't kook stuff.
Alex makes that qualification almost as if he's acknowledging that so much of his content is kook stuff, but he wants the audience to take it seriously this time.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is a guy named Jesse Beltran.
He claims that he had a near-death experience when he was six, and God sent him back because he needed to fulfill his destiny, which apparently is to inform humanity about alien implants that are giving people Havana syndrome.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Thank you.
dan friesen
I watched Finally something God does that's gonna help people in the long run, because he is older than six.
So I watched a fair amount of an interview he did in 2024 with a channel called the Jeff Mara podcast.
And to give you some sense of who's considered a good guest for that show, a week ago they interviewed Courtney Brown about how he gotten some remote viewing information from the E.T. High Council that was important to get out so they can stop an intergalactic war.
jordan holmes
Well, that's nice.
dan friesen
You may remember Courtney Brown as the guy who spouting a bunch of shit about there being a spaceship behind the hail bop comet on Coast to Coast AM, which may have played some role in the Heavenscape mass suicide.
Well, this is the territory where Jesse Beltran's content belongs.
But I guess Alex really doesn't want to talk about free speech, so why not do a morning zoo segment where a guy pretends to scan you for alien implants?
It's crazier than it here's what sucks.
jordan holmes
What sucks?
dan friesen
It's crazy, but it's also boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like there's nothing Alex isn't even really taking this seriously when he's getting scanned.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the guy's scanning him, and there's like a boop-boo-boo-boo-boo.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Of course there is.
dan friesen
It's like a metal detector on a beast.
jordan holmes
It's a Thetan detector.
It's a fuck we're going clear again.
God damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So i I don't really have any clips of that.
And honestly, he's just there to promote a documentary called uh uh nano sapiens.
Which is be who's put out by the same people who put out that died suddenly documentary.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Um and and so he he's really just there on a PR tour for that.
Um it's pretty boring.
jordan holmes
It's always interesting to me whenever you people continue living that you don't that you forget about, and you're like, well, yeah, of course they're still alive.
That guy seems like he should be dead by now.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you're part of the reason Heaven's Gate went down.
dan friesen
Oh, Courtney Brown.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You should be dead by now.
I don't know why in my head it's like, well, obviously he can't still be alive.
dan friesen
And doing the same shit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's like there's no way that the universe would allow that to happen.
Somebody's gonna stop that, but no, of course he is.
dan friesen
No, there's enough uh credulous audiences who will just uh buy up anything.
jordan holmes
And you think you think, oh, well, after you after you do something like that, you go, maybe I won't do that again.
But if you're a person who is capable of going, maybe don't do that again, you wouldn't have done it in the first place.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You never would have pretended that you remote viewed spaceships.
jordan holmes
So of course you're gonna keep doing it.
dan friesen
So I I think that um I got a real relief out of Alex being like, I'm gonna fucking talk to this firefighter who's gonna scan me for implants.
Like, fuck yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's it's such a disappointment that it sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it gave me some hope in the middle of this in the middle of what we're about to listen to.
Dumb shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So um Antifa, Alex knows all about their funding.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Well, we're gonna go to break here, but I'll I'll tell you the main uh consortium that takes the NGO money and then pays it to Antifa.
It's run by Alexander Soros.
We broke this.
Uh hard to believe.
Ten years ago.
So it's still the same group.
And we have the documents and the battle plan on it to one of their officers on where to attack, what to do, how to provocate her, how to get the blacks to burn down certain facilities.
This particular document is in Maryland.
And this was meant to be blamed on Trump right before the election 2016.
Documents to tell plan for civil unrest and martial law in Baltimore.
They're all there.
Alexander Soros heads up the group.
If you scroll down, we'll give you the name of it.
But this is the reality of what we're facing.
And I'll cover it when we come back from break.
The actual documents we broke.
dan friesen
Because I forgot all the details about it.
Well, I forgot about the details of these fake things that we found online.
And uh I need to I need to freshen up during that.
jordan holmes
I remember so many fake details about so many fake things.
I don't know why I can't remember the fake details about this particular fake thing.
dan friesen
Alex has forgotten more fake things than you'll ever learn.
jordan holmes
It is it is that is a true thing somehow, I believe.
Yes.
dan friesen
So he goes to break brushes up on this, maybe uh scrolls through uh InfoWars article, yeah, uh and uh talks more about these fake Soros contracts.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
On screen you see the smoking gun documents of Alexander Soros' organization that he commands running actual anti-fa attacks and the funding.
Friends of democracy, action bulletin, BW 10418-15 command attack plan with all the officers' signatures and everything else.
If a brother an academic was in jail, his brother went over to take care of the dog and found the document.
jordan holmes
Huh.
alex jones
Brother is a captain.
Oh, it's headless.
There's no leadership.
We can't ever do anything about it.
Bull crap.
dan friesen
So uh it's been a while since we talked about this shit, so I wanted to revisit a few things about these very obviously fake uh documents.
jordan holmes
No, they're not obviously fake.
dan friesen
For one thing, Alex has uh mixed up some things.
It's a different Soros child, Jonathan Soros, who's involved with this organization, but Alexander Soros got really popular during Pizzagate.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so he's the only Soros kid that uh Alex knows about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like when you're adapting a novel to be a screenplay.
Sometimes you condense the characters everyone.
I mean, otherwise people get distracted, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you don't want to pay the actors.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
So there's a section in these documents about disbursements for payments of the protesters, which consistently misspells disbursement with a P instead of a B. Dispersement.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It makes sense because money comes from purses.
I don't understand this whole burser shit.
It should be a purser.
dan friesen
Yeah, that that's a notable hmm.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this section also includes a breakdown where the protesters uh you know tells them how they uh should expect to get their payments from D.A. Donnelly, who's a point person.
jordan holmes
Very nice of them.
dan friesen
Quote, this does not leave this document.
That's underlined.
jordan holmes
I find it very difficult for something to be printed out and yet also not leave the document in itself.
But that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that, you know, most documents say don't snitch on it.
You know, don't tell anyone about this.
jordan holmes
This was this is a problem that was handled a long time ago with the Mission Impossible method of destroying the message even immediately after.
Otherwise, anybody could see it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just uh watched burn after reading.
jordan holmes
You burn it after reading.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You don't just say, hey, don't let anybody know about this, but keep it in your bookshelf.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So apparently five to ten percent of the negotiated amount is paid one to two weeks before the protest.
Twenty to thirty percent goes out twenty-four to forty-eight hours afterwards.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then you get the rest four to six months later.
jordan holmes
I this is not a good deal for that.
dan friesen
No, that sucks.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna I'm gonna have to bounce.
I think I can get an extra gig that pays better than this.
dan friesen
Yeah, people aren't gonna riot based on this kind of a payment schedule.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You can't give me a maximum of ten percent up front if I might die or be seriously wounded in this riot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not like there's insurance for me or any kind of medical bills being covered.
This is crazy.
jordan holmes
I mean, furthermore, if you are going to get anybody to engage into legal into illegal action, you have to front load and then half at the you know, like it's it's the whole premise of like terrorists you have to pay their family if they're gonna go suicide bombs.
Yeah, yeah.
This is this is all money that we're getting quick.
This is quick cash.
We're not talking about an investment.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
This isn't a CD that's gonna appreciate over six months.
dan friesen
If you're trying to get me to do a crime, I don't trust you to pay me half a year later.
jordan holmes
That would be insane on account of where we're already criminals.
dan friesen
I have no recourse.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I can't make you pay me for the crime.
jordan holmes
It almost makes me regret wanting to commit crimes.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So this document makes it clear that you can slap whoever you want whenever you want.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
You can only use closed fists, quote, below the neck and above the belt.
You're absolutely not allowed to kick anyone, quote, unless provoked with no other recourse.
I'd love for there to be a meeting where these bosses are like making a protester justify a kick.
jordan holmes
I would like that.
I would like that a lot.
dan friesen
Did you have other recourse?
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Well, we're gonna pay you the rest of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
What are we doing?
What is happening?
Are you bringing me in for meetings?
If you're bringing for me in for meetings, then why are we talking about a document?
Like, what is this?
What's happening?
dan friesen
We watched the tape, and that was not a clean kick.
I mean you had other options.
unidentified
What enough absurd grouping of rules.
dan friesen
So dumb.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex also says that these documents were found by a guy who was going over to take care of his brother's Doug because he'd gotten arrested.
He was an intellectual.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's interesting because this uh is not the version of uh the story that uh originally was told about these documents.
So here's a clip from January 10th, 2018, where Harrison Smith, uh fresh, fresh on the scene, young Buck trying to make a name for himself, yeah, came on to Alex's show to break this story.
harrison smith
So these documents have to do with the 2015 Baltimore riots, the Black Lives Matter riots that were inspired by the city.
alex jones
Which we know is funded by the Justice Department.
harrison smith
Yes.
Well, yeah, we know that a lot of people are were putting it funds into all these riots that of course started with Ferguson and spread throughout all of these things.
So uh So this goes back to 2015.
And where this comes from is there is a user on 4chan, and 4chan is a totally anonymous website.
You can uh it's like a place for like for WikiLeaks.
Yeah, it's like it's like WikiLeaks, there's uh obviously a lot of fake stuff posted there, probably, but uh probably but this seems pretty real.
And so a user says that his bridge basically was a loser, a loner, barely had a job, and yet recently in the last couple years, he'd taken to traveling around the United States.
unidentified
So this guy who who leaked it said he's a little suspicious, which they admit Soros is funding a group of about a thousand and they fly around.
harrison smith
Well, he he just gave 18 billion dollars.
I mean, you the what you could do without money is ridiculous.
So obviously there's tons of funds to fly people around to uh to program these people, train these people.
alex jones
So I'm saying what you read in here is what they're doing.
harrison smith
Right.
Right.
And so uh and so this Nieker says he went looking through his uh his brother's stuff, basically looking for proof of uh of where his brother was getting his money.
He thought maybe it was gonna be drugs, he was looking for sort sort of proof that his brother was maybe involved in something he shouldn't be involved in.
Well, he found these documents, and so these documents he took a picture of uh with his cell phone and then posted them to 4chan.
And the it's an action document from the Friends of Democracy, which is a um a uh pack uh by George Soros' son that it's its mission statement is to get money out of politics.
So that's funny enough.
But uh, this is actually DWI 041815.
BWI is the airport code for Baltimore 0418 uh is April 18th, which is uh 15, 2015, which is the date that the riots started.
dan friesen
Past this point, they did no reporting on this.
Like no investigation, no journalism, nothing.
They know nothing more than they did that day when they found these fake fucking documents on 4chan.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex still pretends that this is super real because it says what he wants it to say, what he needs it to say.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing to anyone who can think critically, but that doesn't matter because he knows his audience is all People who can't at this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
It's it's such like that kid way of thinking where it's like, as long as you don't think about it twice, it all makes sense.
Oh, they've got 18 billion dollars.
That's so much money.
And you're like, but if you think about it twice, you would realize that for a revolutionary organization trying to hide, that is a big red flag for people.
It's too much money.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
You would see that moving around.
The point of the revolution is not to be seen doing the revolution.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Until it's time.
Yeah.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
dan friesen
And and if $18 billion or whatever.
jordan holmes
$18 billion.
dan friesen
If that was being directed towards revolution, you'd see a lot more than you see now.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It it it shit would be really crazy.
jordan holmes
Where would that money be even going?
dan friesen
Well, not to the protesters who kick people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah, those checks are cancelled.
jordan holmes
Right.
So you've got $18 billion.
You're not spending it on body armor, obviously.
You're not spending it on weapons.
You're not spending it on.
So what are you even spending it on?
dan friesen
Well, also in these documents, there is a section that says do not report this money to anyone.
jordan holmes
That's smart.
dan friesen
So like it just it's it would be $18 billion that just disappeared.
jordan holmes
Right.
We wouldn't know because it's on the document that nobody would report it to anybody.
So it's all just invisible money now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, great.
dan friesen
Brilliant.
jordan holmes
You know, and you would want physical money.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
You'd want to be, or perhaps uh crypto or something.
But even then, you know, crypto is a terrible idea.
dan friesen
Cougar.
jordan holmes
Right.
You need to buried treasure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is where the $18 billion is gone.
dan friesen
If I'm somebody who's working for one of these outfits, right?
I'm a paid protester and cherry in the in the fashion of these documents.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I am only taking gold coin.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I can't trust you on anything.
This is the least trustworthy looking document ever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't even trust cash.
That's right.
jordan holmes
No, they've got numbers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They've got numbers they can trace that cash.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I want a chunk of metal.
jordan holmes
I want to be able to disappear and have money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is it.
dan friesen
So Alex uh he he's trying to push these Antifa Soros documents again, and of course he is.
And it's sad, but what what else is he going to do?
Turns out what else he's going to do is try to go live to a press conference that Pam Bondi is holding.
jordan holmes
Oh God.
dan friesen
And I honestly think that it's hilarious where he accidentally tunes in.
alex jones
We're gonna be getting more of this historic development.
It's so big, it's so important.
This is the strongest move yet against them.
Against the deep state's foot soldiers that goes right to the top.
And then I got everything else that ties into that and Trump preparing the insurrection act and so much more.
But first, let's go to Pam Bondi who's speaking live right now at the White House in this cabinet meeting.
Let's hear what the attorney general has to say.
pam bondi
And seized a hundred and forty-four illegal guns just in the short time we've been in Memphis.
donald j trump
And many of these people are career criminals.
And when you take them out of a place, your crime rate just goes down.
These people commit crimes every single day.
They're sick.
dan friesen
So he just flips the channel over and she's bragging about gun grabbing.
jordan holmes
Yep.
When you remove guns from an environment, there are fewer guns crimes.
Yep.
dan friesen
This this honestly is like out.
That's a Alex stepping on a rake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like it's crazy funny in a script.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
These people, oh man, okay.
Uh they say they don't want free speech anymore, but at least they're not taking the guns, tune into the press conference.
We're taking a lot of guns.
jordan holmes
What is the most specifically awful thing for me to jump into?
Uh I mean, it could it's like, hey, now what do you like to join our pedophile cabal of billionaires?
This is me, this is them, this is that guy.
You know, like it this is that level.
dan friesen
Yeah.
At least uh, you know, Trump's not uh tearing off his human skin and showing a demon underneath we go live to a press conference.
jordan holmes
Uh just want to say that there's no such thing as crisis actors in all school shootings.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
Ah, fuck.
dan friesen
So I told you that Alex was going to talk about a movie.
Um, and uh here's where uh he does that.
I don't think he's seen it.
alex jones
The Democrats just falling apart, their own people are scared, their own operators aren't willing to carry stuff out.
They may be paralyzed at this point.
They may not actually do the false flags that are the final ingredient in all their war games, the pedestal plan, the movies, battle after battle that's currently out saying how great and sexy it is to go bomb federal buildings and blow up ice facilities, and civil war came out last year.
It's all the pedestal plan, folks.
The Joker, all of it.
They tell you this.
But they want somebody else to go do it for 'em.
They want to stir you up to do it.
But people aren't buying it.
dan friesen
So we went to go see one battle after another.
And I really don't think that you could see that and think that it was trying to make uh bombing stuff sexy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be the complete opposite.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think I think that the message of the movie does not I mean, there's sexualized things that happen in the context of you know, domestic terrorism.
jordan holmes
Right.
I think the the way to look at it would be that it is the fucking that the bombing is personifying.
It's all about the sex.
That's not good, though, because that's not a sustainable revolution.
dan friesen
Right.
The revolution that involves blowing up buildings and and robbing banks and stuff like that is compulsive.
jordan holmes
It's for young people.
dan friesen
Yeah, it has uh like an element to it that is self-defeating, self-burning out.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that that's really a message that the movie captures.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that I I don't know.
I I find it interesting that I took forever to see Civil War.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I just heard Alex complain about it and I watched it.
I'm like, that is nothing to do with what you're talking about.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Uh, but now this one's gonna be thrown in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's it's strange to just determine what things are based on trailers.
That seems it seems like we had a whole like never judge a book by its cover thing for a while that people would at least give lip service to.
But now it's just fuck it.
Judge that book by its goddamn cover, and if you have to go to the cover, you weren't listening to the title.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think I think that this speaks to like um uh one of the ways that Alex and folks who are of his type have really changed uh media, and that is that there is so little literacy about what the thing that you're seeing is saying.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is is troubling.
Like, I think I think that Alex should probably be offended by a fair amount of things that are in one battle after another.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I don't think that if you watch that fairly, you would come away with the conclusion that he is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like I I just I don't think you can see the movie and think that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be kind of silly.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So uh another thing that's silly is to imagine that at this point you can possibly say that Trump is doing well.
I just don't see it.
No.
But Alex does.
jordan holmes
How about it?
alex jones
If you're really honest about it, Trump's knocking it out of the park.
I mean, I got so much more he's doing.
He's overperforming what I thought he could get done.
Overperforming.
Now, I wish he could, you know, pie in the sky, everything's magic.
You know, if wishes were real and money grew on trees and all the rest of it, you know, the Easter money was real, Santa Claus is real.
But in the real world, Trump's Michael Jordan when it comes to getting stuff done.
I mean, I that's all I can say.
And so people that want instant gratification, people that just want to sit around and bitch all day, black pill people, are babies.
And things are moving very quick compared to where they were before.
For the good in general.
That's why Evil's panicking is so dangerous.
dan friesen
Any per any president could get a ton of shit done if they just ignored the courts and Congress.
Trump is overperforming in Alex's eyes because he's violating fundamental principles that Alex used to pretend to care about.
If you cheat, you can usually win.
And you only get punished for cheating when a system is capable of holding you responsible for cheating.
Yeah.
And what we're seeing now is that uh we may not be able to.
The system may not be designed uh in a way that can handle cheating.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you want to put it in more crass terms, if America was a casino, Donald Trump would be in a hole being beaten to death by very large angry men.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I I it it's um I I the story hasn't ended, right?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, so we don't know ultimately what the conclusion of all of this is.
jordan holmes
The floor box could still call the people together and grab the guy from the comically huge uh theft machine.
dan friesen
Yeah, right now it does feel like we may be learning in a very tough, uh unfortunate way that we don't have a system that was built to do the things we thought it was.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
We just had people in office who didn't do these things.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
We were all living pretend.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So um Alex has a guest on the show, and it's not a firefighter who's gonna scan him for boot boops.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
Um, it is a sitting member of Congress.
jordan holmes
That's less nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Tommy Toberville.
jordan holmes
Oh, oh, I thought it was Marjorie Taylor.
Tommy Tuberville.
That guy Tommy Toberville.
dan friesen
Former football coach.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And then people were like, of course you should make decisions about laws.
dan friesen
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
You got that guy to the end zone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He did some dicey financial stuff in between.
jordan holmes
But that sounds right.
dan friesen
Then he he got into uh Congress and uh now he's just a big old piece of shit.
tommy tuberville
Great.
alex jones
We got these documents ten years ago.
They planned to have nationwide riots, create a race war to try to stop Trump from getting in.
Alexander Soros funded it.
We got the secret documents, we broke these, and in it, it's called the Friends of Democracy, run by Alexander Soros, battle plans where to attack.
And they say you're gonna stir up the blacks, the media's gonna claim the police are racist.
Your job is to get the blacks to attack.
Because they wouldn't go along with it, now they brought in the illegal aliens, and they admit that that's their army.
So what you said earlier about this is basically a uh uh a mob uh for anti-friendly the Democrats to try to trigger something, but because this is being exposed, uh, we just blew their rocket up on the launch pad, Senator.
tommy tuberville
Yeah, and where do you start, Alex?
You start in the cities, you start in the urban areas.
We are losing our cities daily in this country.
They're almost dead.
dan friesen
We have senators who will sit on Alex's show and listen to him talk about these fake Soros Antifa contracts and how it was a plot to whip up the black people and how it didn't work, so they've brought in illegal immigrants.
Like, we're at a point where that guy doesn't need to leave.
Yeah, he should need to leave.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He should be worried about being kicked out of office for being in this interview.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Instead, he's just like, you bet, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cities are dying.
jordan holmes
This one is weird because it feels like this one is a strange wave in American politics that just kind of comes and goes like the tide, like in it, like the Crimson tide, if you will.
Uh no, he wasn't Alabama.
dan friesen
He was old Miss Shit.
Fuck Al No, wait, was he Alabama?
I don't remember where.
jordan holmes
Yeah, who cares?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Um, but but it is like, you know, you go back to the know nothing party, or you go back, and there's just like every now and again, there's just a bunch of fucking lunatics who show up and they become the senator, and then a couple of years later they're gone.
Like it's wild that America keeps producing these things and they keep getting into into office.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
Old Miss.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I accidentally almost searched Tommy Tutone when I uh was looking for Tuberville.
Not a and I'd rather have him in the Senate.
jordan holmes
Not a coach, though.
dan friesen
Uh Old Miss.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Auburn.
jordan holmes
Auburn, that's what it was.
Yeah, yep.
dan friesen
Texas Tech and then uh Cincinnati.
What do you think his career record was?
jordan holmes
Uh let's go with 550 and 450.
dan friesen
159 and 99.
jordan holmes
That's not bad.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's pretty good.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Good for him.
Except it but you know what that doesn't do?
Qualify you for office.
dan friesen
In the late 70s, he coached high school.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, never mind.
dan friesen
And this loser had a losing record coaching high school ball for two seasons.
Nine and ten.
jordan holmes
You know, what a loser.
He's he was probably a better recruiter than he was a coach.
And that may be why we're uh why we're talking about him today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Except he said that he recruited Mahomes, and Mahomes said, no, he didn't.
Well, maybe he's not a great recruiter.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's a pretty good liar, though.
That's probably what got him into Congress.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
Um, and he's a great guy who uh at hating Muslims.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Uh because Alex wants to focus primarily on, you know, like Central America, South American population.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And Tuberville is way more interested in being like, we gotta get out Muslims.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
We have all the imams saying we're gonna capture you.
They're allied with the left.
This is a cancer.
Here is the call to prayer in Dearborn, Michigan.
This is happening in all the place.
Oh, you can't have church bells during the day, but we can blare Sharia law at midnight, everybody.
This is literally them marking their territory.
Here it is.
unidentified
Oh.
alex jones
Starts at 6 a.m. in the morning, ends at midnight.
jordan holmes
Wait.
unidentified
I can't believe it.
alex jones
And then, folks, if you don't do this in our countries, they kill you.
unidentified
*Song*
alex jones
All right, let's turn it off.
I can't listen anymore.
Senator, this is have you seen the footage where they go into businesses in Houston and threaten them because they're selling beer and saying to Islam, you can't sell beer, we're coming back, we're gonna get you.
I mean, this is out of control.
tommy tuberville
Oh, I've I've seen it.
I've seen it all.
I've we get all kind of information up here, but we got people on both sides of the aisle got their head in the damn sand.
We better get her head up.
We better understand what what's coming.
They're coming to our streets.
What gives them the right, Alex, to go out in the middle of the street in a lot of these big cities and do their prayer.
jordan holmes
The constant fucking tension!
tommy tuberville
You don't do that in in your countries, only you do it where you want to, as you said earlier, you want to mark your ground, and that's what they're doing.
They're taking over slowly but surely.
We have to fight back.
Sharia law needs to be banned in this country.
And if we don't do it, we're gonna lose United States of America to a bunch of people coming over here that want to kill us.
dan friesen
This is uh bad.
Um this is all about a mosque in Dearborn, Michigan that put up loudspeakers to do the call to prayer.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The city council's received some noise complaints from people who live near the mosque, and at least one of the mosques in question turned off the speakers in response to that.
Yeah.
And there's conversation that's going on about regulation.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a reason that they're doing uh a coordinated attack on the American Muslim community focused on Dearborn.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's because it's one of the cities in the United States with the deepest Islamic history.
In the 1920s, there was a large influx of Muslim immigrants to the city who came to work in Ford factories, and it led to a high population of they were the best jobs at the time.
Yep.
jordan holmes
That happened around a factory.
It happens around most factory towns.
Uh certain little pockets build up.
It's weird.
dan friesen
This led to the founding of the American Muslim Society in 1938, which operates the Dearborn Mosque, and now approximately 2,000 capacity house of worship.
In the 80s, they were broadcasting a call to prayer through exterior speakers, and the city tried to make them stop, which led to the courts uh this deciding that they were the equivalent of church bells.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So they were within their right to do this with external speakers.
jordan holmes
Hard to argue if you can do the church bells, they can't do the thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This mosque and the Muslim community of Dearborn are at the core of establishing some basic rights for mosques in the United States.
So to people like Alex and Tuberville, they represent the precedent that needs to be overturned.
The Dearborn Mosque was the one that fought for the right to broadcast their call to prayer.
So if it turns out they can't do it after all, then it builds an argument that none of the other mosques can either.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
For what it's worth, there's no way the mosque is doing calls to prayer at midnight because Muslims traditionally pray five times a day, with the first one being around 6 a.m. and the last one being uh about around eight, eight p.m.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can't say a specific time because the time changes basis on sunrise and sunset, but what Alex is saying is ridiculous.
I know that a lot of cities have noise ordinances, and if the first prayer of the day happens before people are allowed to make noise in public, then I think it's appropriate for the mosque to not do the call to prayer on their external speakers for that one.
There are rules about how you can't do construction before a certain time in most cities because that noise disturbs people at a time when they have the right to expect quiet.
I think it's possible to make a point about the timing of the first prayer of the day.
But if you're complaining about any of the others, you're just a bigot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's no other way around it.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it's fun to talk shit, and we're talking shit, but in the in reality, I don't care what any other any municipal problems are that are not my municipal problems.
You know what I mean?
Like this is just a regular let's go to city hall.
I'm not why are we talking about somebody else's city hall?
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
Well, because this particular city hall is at the cornerstone of this battle in the eighties around uh mosques' right to uh to broadcast the cult prayer.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So it is a symbolic thing that must be attacked by these people in order to attack the Muslim population as a municipal problem escalates.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But it's it's a fundamentally bullshit thing.
It's not like they're going, oh, and also fucking Frankfurt, Kentucky has a noise ordinance that I also don't like, but that one's because of blah blah blah.
It's you know, it's like just if there's a noise ordinance in your town, yeah.
Deal with it in your town.
dan friesen
Yeah, this factory is too loud too early.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or something.
jordan holmes
Cool, let's have a meeting.
That's how this whole thing is supposed to work.
It's not supposed to work by somebody in Austin being like, see, they're taking over.
dan friesen
Like that's no good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen
In a different state.
jordan holmes
Senator from a different state.
Part of the whole agreement is leave my fucking state alone, assholes.
dan friesen
It'd be nice, especially around like uh local and religious matters.
jordan holmes
Like, just we all live here.
You don't leave us alone.
We'll figure it out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, that video that Alex mentions from Houston is uh of a guy named Imam Kasim Khan, and he's not threatening business owners who sell beer.
He started a campaign to confront Muslim business owners who sell things that are forbidden by Islam, like pork and lotto tickets, and he's posted some videos of him doing that on TikTok.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I still don't support what that guy is doing, but Alex should be totally into it.
I don't believe that religious belief should uh decide what people can or can't sell, but Alex does.
He would be entirely behind some Christian group going to pharmacies run by Christians and shaming them for selling contraception, which is essentially the same thing.
jordan holmes
I'm sure that they've done that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I have no doubt.
dan friesen
I don't I don't uh like the idea of somebody, you know, pressuring a business owner.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Uh based on the religion that they share, because that's still intimidation, and that's you know, I don't think that's appropriate, but it's different than what Alex is presenting this as, which is like Muslims bullying everyone to follow their rule.
jordan holmes
I mean, hey, if you can excommunic uh excommunicate an abortion doctor, then fuck you.
They can go to whatever wet fucking Muslim house they want to and cause pro problems there.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
So uh I don't care about Tommy Tuberville.
He sucks, and a lot of this is just uh dehumanizing horrible stuff uh about Muslims.
Um so fuck him.
He uh he goes on his merry way, and Alex gets back to the main issues.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The real issues that matter.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like uh monkeys in Japan.
jordan holmes
That does matter.
alex jones
We know the way the world works.
You make a kid work, you make them do a job, you make them appreciate things, you teach them how to do everything.
You're not being mean to them, you're teaching them how to be somebody.
unidentified
Hmm.
alex jones
They've got famous ice monkeys is what they're called.
Just because they you know it's frozen up in the mountains all part of the year.
Pull up monkeys of Japan.
And they live by these hot springs.
And as soon as humans started feeding them, they're like super fat.
They're you'll you know they'll weigh like a hundred pounds, but they should weigh like thirty pounds.
It's like an equivalent like a five hundred pound person, and they're super fat, and they're super depressed, and they just sit around all day bitching and complaining.
jordan holmes
In what language?
dan friesen
Japanese.
alex jones
And they've done studies on how miserable any animal is that ends up getting taken care of.
All animals folks.
Show show obese Japanese monkeys.
And and and and the point is we all know this.
Yeah, I mean, look at this.
This is the left right here.
Not just the weight-wise, it's spiritual.
Good job, crew.
Find that 30 seconds.
Good God, they're good.
Man, best ever.
dan friesen
Amazing.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Amazing.
I don't know how they do it.
Find a picture of a fat monkey.
jordan holmes
You can just Google image search a picture of a fat monkey and boom, there it is.
dan friesen
Generally speaking, animals that live in colder climates will tend to be fatter because they need to store energy and have insulation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's calling these ice monkeys.
Yep.
That's a little clue.
Maybe it's actually that humans started feeding them and they got all fat and lazy and depressed and complained all the time.
jordan holmes
Could be they do too much bitching.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So in the late 2000s, there were a bunch of stories about some macaques at the uh Ohama Park zoo in Japan who had gotten really fat.
The zookeeper speculated that it was because they were feeding the monkeys and people were throwing food into their enclosure, and the park was open 24 hours a day.
jordan holmes
That's yeah.
dan friesen
They prohibited feeding the monkeys, and uh there have been less stories about this ever since.
jordan holmes
Funny how that works.
dan friesen
Also, because they're naturally found in cold habitats, studies have found that the Japanese macaque has a higher frequency of obesity than similar primates in other uh climates.
jordan holmes
Right.
Like uh bears are more likely to hibernate on account of uh that's what they do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I I I man.
Fat monkeys.
jordan holmes
I mean, but that's see.
This is what gets back to the the fucking idiocy of that is what dehumanization is.
You are calling the left monkeys incapable of controlling their own behavior, right?
It is humanization to call you a Nazi because you are in control of your own behavior, and that behavior is a choice that you have made to be a giant fucking piece of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm giving you the credit of believing that your positions are your choice.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And what you actually believe.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I I'm responding to it accordingly.
jordan holmes
That's I would I would like the same respect.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But apparently that's not how it works.
dan friesen
Nah.
Nope.
So Bill Gates, you remember that guy?
jordan holmes
I've heard of him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Seems to be less important lately.
jordan holmes
I mean, he was in the top 14 for a while, and now it feels like he's fallen out of the top 50.
dan friesen
Well, I mean in the real world.
Like I feel like we're hearing a lot less about Bill Gates.
jordan holmes
Sure.
He's keeping a low profile.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Probably smart.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Uh Alex still uh thinks he's uh really important.
Okay and uh probably is a top-level demon in him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Matt, not Satan, but someone will hide top up there.
alex jones
I don't think he's possessed by the antichrist, but like one of the top demons.
I mean, he he he is a demon.
Like when you look at Bill Gates, you're looking at an interdimensional creature.
dan friesen
Young Scratch.
alex jones
And for those of you who don't have discernment, I actually envy you.
Because I can just look at somebody and tell you what's going on.
And I look at Bill Gates and it makes my skin crawl.
I mean, look at that thing right there.
He's got one mission, kill, steal, and destroy.
One mission, kill your ass.
unidentified
Hmm.
Hmm.
alex jones
Oh, get him off screen, please.
So I don't need to have my discernment.
I can temporally, meaning on the third dimension.
Study him, and he is as evil as you can get.
He makes Joseph Mingela and Mouse a tongue.
Blush.
And he's been given all this power because he is a vessel.
There's not a person in there.
That's an entity.
dan friesen
It's a walk-in.
unidentified
Hmm.
alex jones
Enjoying everything he does.
jordan holmes
Wait, can he?
alex jones
So I'm gonna towel this into Trump and everything that's going on here in a moment.
But I need to tell Listener something.
I got a chat GPT, boo.
Analysis here that's accurate.
And I asked you this morning, uh, what is the future of InfoWars?
How long will it be on air?
jordan holmes
It exploded.
alex jones
Because I'm not gonna spend more than two minutes on this, but everybody keeps asking me, but a lot of listeners are sick of it, so am I. And it's just a couple pages long.
And it's got all the state court, federal court stuff, but it says info wars will be shut down within one week to too much in all of our analysis.
That's what I told the crew.
dan friesen
Okay.
So I asked a robot uh if I was going out of business.
unidentified
Uh shake a magic eight ball.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I asked the Oracle if uh how long I have left.
jordan holmes
I went to Delphi.
dan friesen
Said I'm fucked.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
And that's what I've been telling the crew.
We're done.
jordan holmes
We're Okay.
Here's what we gotta get.
We gotta get a handle on this.
All right.
Top demons.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
How are we ranking demons?
Presumably we got old scratch, top of the list.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
Then we've got another tier of demons beneath that.
What separates these two in terms of are we talking about just power levels?
Like, is it is it like Lucifer above like a Mortal Kombat kind of uh tower situation where But and the and in the Mortal Kombat Tower, if I if I recall correctly, was it always the same order?
dan friesen
I know the last few were.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
dan friesen
But I I think I think it randomized uh maybe not.
jordan holmes
Well, let's say that the the lower levels demons are always jockeying for position, but the top the top tier is the top tier.
Right?
dan friesen
Goro.
jordan holmes
What do what are we talking about in terms of like why these are separated?
If if one of these demons that uh has clearly taken over uh uh Bill Gates, right?
If they challenge Lucifer, how's Lucifer winning?
dan friesen
Well, Shang Sung could turn into other people.
Right he had everyone's abilities.
jordan holmes
Right.
So Lucifer has this person's abilities as well.
dan friesen
Perhaps.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Uh one of them, I can't remember which had like three arms on each side, did like six arms.
jordan holmes
That was Goro.
dan friesen
Yeah, he has a s serious advantage.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's also giant.
There's that one other guy who is like part bull, I think.
Right.
And then you bring killer instinct into this, and then you got like a big thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That skeleton guy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Saber wolf.
jordan holmes
Sure.
You know, like they then you got the DLC characters.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
They got fucking Superman in there.
dan friesen
Oh, you're talking you're talking about uh yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's all the new Mortal Kombat.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All bets are off.
Now that we've added, I think Jason.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Noob Cybot.
jordan holmes
Right.
Satan can't go up against noob Cybot.
alex jones
No way.
jordan holmes
Right?
There's no chance.
Where is Satan power level wise?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
dan friesen
Who wins?
Satan?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or Cyrax.
jordan holmes
Cyrax isn't that good.
I don't know.
I think I I think Satan takes him.
dan friesen
What about Balrog?
We bring Street Fighter into this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the actual Balrog can win.
Balrog and Street Fighter?
Nah.
dan friesen
Blanca versus Devil.
jordan holmes
Blanca is a top tier character.
Blanca wins.
For sure.
dan friesen
I I think I have a couple of responses to what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
As with fighting games.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
I think it's a little bit about personality with the demons.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that each has their own like little set.
Like, you know.
jordan holmes
Alright.
They got their move sets.
They got their their ups and downs.
They got their advantages, disadvantages.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Some are a little tankier than others.
Some of them have a little bit of more reach.
jordan holmes
So we're talking about playstyle.
Right.
So the devil is kind of uh frankly, he's kind of an OP character.
Nobody wants to play with the devil, right?
Because he just wins too much.
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's no challenge.
If you have the devil.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
He's like a he's like on easy.
I gotcha.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And then secondarily, I think if you're trying to identify who these demons are, you're a fool.
Uh because you know, we know the names of some of these rich people in the world.
Right.
But the real power, these are people whose names you'll never know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'd be presumably that would how it that would have to be how it works.
dan friesen
Right.
And you'd be a damn fool if you think you know demons' names.
If you think like Azazel, you think you really think that he's a top guy?
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, hey, if you know their name, they're not a top guy.
Clearly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
Here's my next question.
All right.
If it is pleasurable to be a person, to possess a person, why are not all demons in the process of possessing people right now?
dan friesen
Well, from listening to Lee Strobel, we know there's a finite number of demons.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So there might be.
They might all be busy.
jordan holmes
Have all the demons possessed people.
Have we finally reproduced enough human beings that the demons now have a full population?
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Um, another possibility is that there's some element of demonhood that we don't understand.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And like they can only possess for a certain amount of time, and then there's like a refractory period.
jordan holmes
That's that's unfair.
That I would be very I would, you know what?
I would resent my creator enough to go to hell for that.
dan friesen
There may be a recharge period or something like that.
So like at any given time, yeah, only half of the potential demons are pleasurably uh being in people.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And if they were anything but demons, they could organize themselves into waves or shifts, you know, so everybody's always being possessed at a time.
But they're uh they're so uncoordinated.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, I think that if demons could possess someone permanently, yeah, then they would start to identify with that person.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
And maybe they could learn to love.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you if you think if you think of uh uh many emotions as being glandular, the only way to teach a demon how to love is through possession.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Deep.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Anyway, um now that we've gotten to the bottom of that.
dan friesen
The chat GPT says Alex is going out of business.
jordan holmes
That's the plan.
dan friesen
And so you know what that means.
You gotta move some products.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Alex has a new shirt that he's selling that's a veteran of the info war because he's about to lose probably the right to sell things that say info war or something.
jordan holmes
Designed by a chat GT GPT.
dan friesen
Probably.
Um, and he's getting into the promo code game.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
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Should say this up front.
Get the Hakeem Jeffries clip ready.
Hakeem Jeffries is now blowing up in all these interviews saying, shut up, shut up, shut up.
Because he can't debate, he's an idiot.
If you guys keep exposing us, I'll put you all in prison.
I'll get you your little dog too.
He's saying, shut up, don't you argue with me?
I'm God.
I'm a leftist.
He wants to censor, he wants to shut us all down.
It's what he wants above all things.
So when you use promo code Hakeem or sombrero.
Because he hates the joke of a sombrero.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
alex jones
I love Mexican food.
I love Mexico.
The point is, you want to give illegal aliens, Mexico's part of it.
All this free stuff, all citizens don't get it.
So we put a sombrero on you, and then he goes and bitches and says, stop putting sombreros on me.
dan friesen
So what happened here is that Trump posted a deep fake video on Truth Social, the social media site that he owns that featured Chuck Schumer discussing how no one likes Democrats anymore, so they brought in a legal immigrant populations to vote for them, which used to be the kind of thing you'd uh just hear Nazis discussing, but now seems to be the stated position of one of our two political parties.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in the video, Hakeem Jeffries is standing next to Schumer, and the editor has added a sombrera and a mustache over him, and Mariachi music is playing in the background.
It's very clearly racist in intent.
But more importantly, I thought that it was a huge problem that politicians would use deep fakes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guess the president only has to live up to the standards that you have for some random shit poster online now.
And like Alex defends this by being like, it's clearly a joke.
Maybe it is.
But there's people who think that the earth is flat.
jordan holmes
So I mean, you know, to a certain extent.
This is this is kind of uh uh something of a relief for me personally.
Um because I've been saying, you know, this shit for a while, and to see it come to pass is you know what I expected, right?
Um, but man, the president posted a deep fake video is really something that I never could have I never could have seen coming.
There's it's nice to be surprised by the universe no matter what.
Yeah, right?
No matter how bad you think things can get, the president can post a deep fake video.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that it would be fair to say that it's clearly a joke.
But I don't take for granted that everyone has that level of literacy with media.
jordan holmes
The president doesn't get to make that joke.
dan friesen
No, he really shouldn't.
It's dangerous.
And then the second aspect of it is that I think it's very obvious that someone has put a sombrero and mustache on this one person.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not as obvious that the words Chuck Schumer is saying are fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fake audio that is AI created.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's made to look like he's saying these things.
So you could think that the visual aspect of it is fake, but Schumer actually said this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's easy for people to definitely No, and you can crop it out and you can do all kinds of stuff and you can make it look like, hey, the president posted this.
This is real.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like there are I understand this is not this is not naive because I don't expect people to do it.
But if there are going to be expectations, if you take on the responsibility of really any government figure, there's a trade-off.
You don't get to do certain shit.
If you don't, if you want to do that shit, you can.
Of course you can.
But you don't also get to do this job.
That's the trade-off, buddy.
That's it.
dan friesen
It's the idea of public service.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's you owe something to the public in terms of how you carry yourself.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You're bound voluntarily by some decency rules.
jordan holmes
No one is asking you to do it.
Nobody is for clearly nobody's forcing you to do it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's just the trade-off.
That's the idea.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So Jeffreys didn't get mad and demand that everyone stop putting sombreros on him.
He just said that the video was racist.
And then JD Vance tried to pretend that he didn't understand how anyone could see such a thing.
Which is all part of the baiting that they're trying to do, which Alex is doubling down on and trying to get a piece of here with his promo codes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we need more tomatoes on hand at all times.
Because if somebody like if somebody says something like, I don't see how you can see that as racist, you should just hit him with tomatoes.
Like that's good old fashioned politicking.
dan friesen
Yeah, I I think it's uh the best way to tomatoes not really gonna hurt.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
It's gonna be plenty embarrassing whenever you wipe off that tomato from your face.
dan friesen
So Alex uh, you know, he's thinking about sombreros.
jordan holmes
Uh huh.
dan friesen
And he realizes, like, hey, there's that one time that I've talked about a lot uh where I threw a hat and it landed on Owen Schreuer's head.
I kind of miss Owen.
And so I'm thinking about that a lot.
And so I'm gonna get my employees to try to throw a hat on my head.
alex jones
No!
You put a sombrero on me, it means I'm drinking the peel and having a great time, eating some great food, hang on the right people.
With you, it means you're giving foreigners free stuff to come vote for you, and that's treason.
So that's why he doesn't like the sombrero.
The left thinking talk about me with Sharia called the prayer and Muslims and all the stabbing deaths in Minnesota, and now the police were covering it up.
They thought that discredited me, but people went, no, that's true.
What do you say?
See, so see, the humor's great when it's based in truth, and it's actually real.
And you thought you could lie in humor, but people knew the truth, so the humor was great.
Because it wasn't funny no more.
Oh, give it to me.
Oh my god, Matt, you gotta try better than that.
Hey, get the famous Owen Schreuer thing.
I love Owen.
Get that where I remember I throw the cowboy hat from like 30 feet away and it hits him on the head perfectly.
Remember that?
Okay, we're gonna have a game with the crew.
Get in here.
I don't have that much money, but it's uh I think I have like 20,000 bank.
They're gonna seize that next week, but it's okay.
I actually love it.
It's hilarious.
That works.
Hey, guys, you get three turns.
Matt Weber, get in here.
The morning producer has a great job.
Get in here, you got three tries to throw the sombrero on my head.
Okay, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Harrison Smith wants to try.
Guys, cue up the famous Owen thing when I throw the thing 30 feet away, this wrong head.
By the way, Owen moves, and it would, but then the thing horse correction goes to his head.
It was my skill.
Anyways, I get the credit for that.
Here we go.
Oh my goodness, Harris, you gotta do better than that.
Good lord, man.
I'm joking.
It's hard.
No, no, no, no, that's too far away.
unidentified
Go ahead.
alex jones
Ah!
I tell you what, let's come back, and I'm gonna try to do it on your head.
Thousand dollar prize to the crew member.
You each get three tries.
Almost.
Hey, let's go out to break here, though.
I'm gonna host the rest of the show.
So I'm where's the mariachi bands?
I love everything Mexican.
I love Mexican women.
I love Mexican food.
I love Mexican.
jordan holmes
Things are going great.
alex jones
I don't like the drug cartels and not have any rights, but other than that, we can never free Mexico be a great place.
dan friesen
So what I'm feeling is that Alex thinks that video of him throwing that hat on Owen's head is really great.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And he wants to recreate it with someone other than Owen.
Because it hurts him to have to see Owen in the video of that like lightning in a bottle moment.
Yeah.
It's it's magic.
unidentified
He threw a hat and it landed on Owen's head.
jordan holmes
The very next scene after this is a split-screen duet between Alex Jones and Owen Troyer as they each sing one half of a song in harmony with each other.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The next scene, I have two things that I have two pitches that I'm gonna throw at.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
One is it cuts to Owen and he's throwing a hat on his own head.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's quite good.
dan friesen
They're both like looking at the same star.
Yep, that kind of thing.
jordan holmes
I'll do that.
dan friesen
Or we go a different direction.
And it's Alex drunk as shit later that night leaving a voicemail.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
On Owen's Owen's, hey, remember what I threw that hat.
jordan holmes
Here's what I see.
Here's what I see.
And admittedly, this is darker.
I see everything being totally normal.
Alex getting in his car and driving home and everything just saying hi and then tossing his hat on the on the little thing on the hat holder, coat rack, right?
Kind of giving a and then he goes to his basement where uh we find out that he's constructed an Owen Schreuer out of meat, and he throws the hat on top of that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it he hits it every time.
jordan holmes
Every single time.
Can't miss.
dan friesen
Can't do it with anybody else.
And that is tormenting him.
jordan holmes
Weeping as he throws the hat.
dan friesen
I threw away my relationship with the only person I could throw a hat on.
Fuck.
So I thought like this is.
jordan holmes
Owen was my hat on a hat.
dan friesen
I thought this was a fantastic use of time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like I agree.
Trump has uh come come out and said I don't like the First Amendment, and uh, we're gonna just vote throw hats around.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah!
dan friesen
So he said he was gonna come back from break and do more hat throwing.
And I thought, there's no way.
But he does.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
alex jones
I gotta say, it looks good on me, doesn't it?
Anyways, uh, is that a frog hat, uh, Sembra?
Even cooler.
Okay, uh, Darren McBreen is in here, and he he wants to get on camera, McBreen.
You want to try to win the thousand dollars right now.
Alright, go ahead.
Let's see if you can do it.
Now you're doing this from like 20 feet away.
I did like 30 with Owen.
unidentified
Go ahead.
alex jones
Almost!
Good God.
Knock my knock my Topa Chico over.
You get one more, McBrainy.
Good God, what a mess you made over here.
Alright.
Go ahead.
One more shot.
Alright, this is uh we've This is actually more fun than covering the nuclear war.
jordan holmes
Yes!
alex jones
I like this.
jordan holmes
Two more!
alex jones
Go ahead.
Uh uh, you got one more shot.
I told you you get three.
Oh but each time you're paying it stalked.
I'm joking.
Yeah, you can cheat.
See, I didn't say how far away either.
Now show me with Owen how good I am at this.
One shot.
unidentified
Go ahead.
jordan holmes
This is so sad.
This is so sad.
alex jones
Almost.
Alright, dude, get in here.
Your time.
I'll just I'll throw it on your head, dude.
Uh hold on, I got deal with a shot.
Almost.
Alright, here we go.
Alright.
Pretty good.
jordan holmes
The light leaves his eyes.
alex jones
It's like bobbing for apples, or what's the thing where you're the dunking thing where you we should put a dunking thing in here and do that to me.
The last day we're on air.
Rob, come on.
Somebody's a little harder to Stetson.
You guys are definitely successful, knocking mine.
Uh-uh.
Yeah, one more, get one more try.
unidentified
Alright.
alex jones
Yeah.
Alright, you can save the world from nuclear war if you do this.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
Use the force, man.
Don't overthink it.
We all die in nuclear war.
Danny, you want to try?
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
Why can you make everything suck?
alex jones
Long way to the top.
you want to rock and roll.
unidentified
Come on, let's go.
alex jones
See if we can do it.
Almost.
Hey, you get two more.
Oh, negative, it just impacted on the surface.
Come on.
jordan holmes
Everybody gets three tries.
Or we watch the video again.
alex jones
Alright, continue.
One more shot.
Almost.
It's good though.
Alright.
Anybody else got a plan?
Yeah, these look silly until you're out in the heat.
They make a lot of sense that way.
Oh, you want to try?
Rob Agueros?
I don't know, I'm gonna let you take it.
I like this.
What if I start wearing this all the time?
I like it actually.
Way better than a Hitler mustache.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'd say so.
I I mean these people are just they're kids.
They want to play.
This is play.
jordan holmes
Then play!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But no one's fine with that?
dan friesen
Yeah, I would be fine with it too.
But no one wanna watch it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Like the only reason that they like anyone cares about, hey, these guys are throwing hats on each other's heads, is because they're also telling you that demons are coming for you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And stoking intense racial hatred and xenophobia.
jordan holmes
There's something about the juxtaposition.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like a morning zoo crew is, you know, annoying, but it they are they're just doing what they do.
That's their whole thing.
They're not also like trying to destabilize democracy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And this, I think, is is a manifestation of Alex kind of like I don't want to talk about what Trump is doing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it's really bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I went to that press conference and they were just talking about taking guns.
I can't really do anything.
I got nothing.
Um let's throw hats around.
Um it's kind of like the hatchet throwing, but boring.
Yeah and safe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's it's you're gonna knock over a Topachico.
You're not gonna throw an axe into uh into a camera.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that that's how this feels.
This is the this is a guy who's kind of excited about the possibility of having a dunk tank on his last day.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Like, this is sad.
This is someone who's checked out.
jordan holmes
I remember this would be like when I was in grade school.
I remember there were days where the teacher would just have reached the maximum amount of everything and be like, guess what?
We're playing heads up seven up now.
dan friesen
Especially if it's like a week before summer break.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
I can't do any of this bullshit anymore for another second.
So you guys play while I seethe about how my life is going not as great as I'd like.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Let's throw hats.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Yep.
dan friesen
Uh the guy with the weird uh uh uh microchip reader that beep boops at me, only paid for the fourth hour, so I gotta kill some fucking time here.
Let's throw hats for 10 minutes.
Because it goes on longer than I believe you.
And that felt pretty long, didn't it?
jordan holmes
Sad.
It felt like a sad thing.
It felt like a it felt like a love letter to Owen, a like, I need someone to take this away from me.
dan friesen
Well, this is the like intersection of two influences.
One is that I love you, Owen, I miss you so much.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And the other is trying to get in on this racist meme about Hakeem Jeffries and sombrera.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And that's sad in and of itself.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I don't really think that this has staying power.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that this is Alex chasing a car that's already gone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Um, and so the two things both look really sad and desperate.
And they combine into something worse than both parts.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Alex, you know, he gets dumb.
No one th no one can throw a hat like he can onto Owen's head.
Um, but he just kind of comes off like a prop comic sitting there with a sombrero.
alex jones
It's kind of hard to do the show though in a serious way with this on.
We got some really hardcore serious stuff coming up at the bottom of the hour.
And unless there's I know we're tuned into here hardcore information.
I apologize.
But I want to know who had the idea to bring this in here.
It's hard to do a serious broadcast for this on, but I do like it.
God, that looks good, man.
Got a lot of style.
And you know the women can't resist you when you're wearing this, right?
I think this is a panty dropper, guys.
What's everybody think?
Should I wear this at church this week?
I mean, not the center of attention or anything already.
Stop hitting the horse.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
It's dead.
alex jones
Pastor hosted the church with this on.
Alright, I'm gonna stop.
This is out of control.
I gotta get serious now.
And I mean, I mean seriously, serious, because there's a there's a lot of serious stuff to hit here.
We can have frisbee golf with sombreros.
Now we just invented a new sport.
Now we should we but back to Hakeem Jeffries.
He is really mad people are putting some barrows on him.
dan friesen
So mad.
Are you trying to fuck at church?
Is that what Alex uh is saying?
He's saying it's a panty dropper.
Should I wear it to church?
jordan holmes
I believe that is what he is saying.
dan friesen
You're trying to fuck in the church.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
Man.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but he should know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's well, I mean, his dad doesn't have to pay for the abortions anymore, so he's probably fine with it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Now that it's on his own dime.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
I I um I I found this uh display uh uh dull.
Desperate.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Um coming off like uh somebody who doesn't really have a lot of ideas, but is like, wouldn't it be funny if I did this?
Wouldn't it be funny if I wouldn't be funny if I uh wore this to church to try to fuck?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Can you imagine what a preacher would be like if they were wearing a sombrero?
dan friesen
It's it's just bad riffing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I I feel like I've spent enough time in stand-up where I've seen enough people who have this like aren't I funny kind of attitude of like, aren't I funny?
See, look at me wearing a hat.
Aren't I funny?
But aren't I?
No.
You're not.
dan friesen
And I think that Alex doesn't realize that like whatever this is probably about what he can do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is tops.
dan friesen
And that's not good.
No, the he's not gonna survive in the open market.
And him being like used by people like Tucker and and uh like Rogan, give him an inst inflated sense of like what he has to offer.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, what he has to offer is the past and a made up one that we can use, you know, like everything Alex has to offer exists without Alex and is better without Alex.
Which is probably tough if it's what you have to offer.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's a vestigial organ for himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And uh it's just gonna be diminishing returns, I think, as far as he because he doesn't have anything.
No, he doesn't have a next gear that he can kick it in.
And I think that that's kind of interesting in a way, but it's also very sad.
Yeah, like this display is is quite sad.
Um if only for like how much it's clearly at least half about Owen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The fact that Harrison steps in and is trying the one who's trying to throw the hat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So cute.
dan friesen
You can't fill those shoes, man.
jordan holmes
I know.
It's a very literal metaphor.
It's almost fucking setup.
It is wild.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So uh Trump, you know, he said that uh free speech, he doesn't care about it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Um Alex should I think he cares.
jordan holmes
Insofar as when you try and remove something, you do technically care about it.
dan friesen
Right.
He doesn't care about it in the way that Alex needs him to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And um, I think uh Alex has uh shown uh his lack of concern about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's it is it is this, it is all this.
It all boils down to this, and it's something that we knew and we didn't do anything about because they said it wasn't.
When they put the Ten Commandments up in front of a courthouse, and the Satan people were like, okay, fine, then put the Satan thing up there, and they went, No, because it's Okay for us to do it because our God is real, but it's not okay for you to do it because you make us think that our God isn't real.
And that's it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Um and um.
I don't I don't know.
I don't I don't I don't know what to think.
I just I feel I feel in some ways like um we're we're watching uh a guy bleed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't mind.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Don't care.
jordan holmes
He's a he's a guy I want to bleed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
To be clear.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The blood coming out of him is something that I am stoked about.
dan friesen
There's just a part of like I feel like he should be put out of his own misery.
And and not to say anyone should hurt him or kill him or anything like that, but like InfoWars has to end.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's he's dragging this around with him.
This court shit needs to resolve.
He even wants it to resolve, clearly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is he wants a dunk tank for him to like celebrate his last day at the office.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Like it's he wants to be free of this very badly.
Um, so he can make more money through the fake businesses.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Uh as opposed to pretending that info wars means anything anymore.
unidentified
I I I I just Do you know what this reminds me of?
jordan holmes
We brought we talked about this just uh just a short while ago, uh, when we brought up Austin Powers, right?
And uh I was just thinking about this.
Like, whenever Dr. Evil explains that he's gonna put them in a situation and just assume that they're gonna die, and you're like, that's so stupid.
But this is kind of like watching one of those.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you're like, you're right, this is boring watching a man get eaten by sharks.
It's very bor it takes too long.
donald j trump
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a very boring thing.
I will also just assume that it's going to end without me being there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, you know what it makes me think of is the 2016 election.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Uh everyone would have been better off in this country if Hillary had won, including Alex.
jordan holmes
Especially Alex.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And he did it didn't go that way, and he's dealing with the consequences of that.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Everything would be better in the world if InfoWars had been destroyed like two years ago.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Even for Alex.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
And he knows it, and he's living in the aftermath of him not getting to be the guy who went down with the Alamo.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's so weird.
It's so weird.
jordan holmes
It's it's that um I don't know.
It's not narrative closure yet, because it's not it's not full.
But I mean, that the the impetus, you know, was that image of Alex crying uh as they as they showed people uh or Alex laughing as they showed people crying about Hillary losing.
And it's like it's those people are probably way better off than Alex is right now, you know?
Like that is where we're at.
You fucked up.
And that moment that you thought was great was your downfall.
dan friesen
In in uh in many ways.
Yep.
unidentified
Weird.
dan friesen
And you're not even being uh like given the the majesty of the downfall that you want.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You're being left to bake in the sun or whatever this is, where you're throwing hats around.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wishing your buddy would come back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we made you fine.
For your you've worked very hard, we've made you the air mayor of an empty town.
And you've got little thimble uh you know, thistles walking by.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, um I think Alex sucks, and uh he really, really, really should uh be opposed to what Trump is doing.
jordan holmes
But uh comically.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's not so fuck him.
jordan holmes
Fuck him.
dan friesen
We'll be back with another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor, and I get free soup.
unidentified
Yeah, woo And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
And I am changes, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Well, Alex, I'm a fair same color, I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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