Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dissect Tucker Carlson’s October 8th civil war rhetoric, mocking his baseless claims linking Antifa to Nazi Germany and framing Chicago protests as immigrant "invasions" via outdated tropes like Bella Ciao memes. They expose Trump’s legal ignorance—confusing habeas corpus with firing policies—and Carlson’s opportunistic shifts from racist attacks ("Trendre Aragua") to performative moderation, all while pushing authoritarian justifications. Jones’ exclusion from the panel signals his fading relevance as a liability, not an asset, while Carlson’s drug-fueled decay narratives reveal propagandistic fearmongering to normalize state violence under the guise of "saving" society. [Automatically generated summary]
So, Jordan, I don't know how much of this you're aware of, but on October 8th, the Trump administration held an absurd press conference where Trump and many of his cabinet members and the head of his FBI sat around the table with a cadre of right-wing media dipshits and they talked about how evil and scary Antifa is.
Most of the people there have some association with Turning Point USA, which makes sense because the Trump administration has made it clear that they intend to capitalize on Charlie Kirk's murder and use him as a symbol that allows them to crack down on the left and all political enemies.
This meeting was an interesting mix of Trump deer leader worship and political theater meant to preemptively justify the horrible shit that the government is planning to do.
It was one of the most naked and transparent displays of authoritarian posturing I've ever seen in my life.
And it's degrading to the country that it happened and that our president was involved in it.
Probably the most famous person in the crew was noted Pizzagate crier Jack Pesobic.
And if I were Alex, I would be furious that I wasn't invited.
And not only that, he didn't even get a shout out.
And that was particularly glaring because former InfoWars employee Savannah Hernandez was on the panel, as was the host of InfoWars Sunday briefing, Nick Sortor.
Nick Sortor was arrested the other day because he got into a fight with some protesters in Portland.
He was out there pretending to be a journalist and things got a little bit out of hand.
The DA ended up dropping the charges, but he's been fairly successful in obscuring the fact that he works for Infowars in service of presenting himself as a cool, unbiased media guy that the Trump administration can use.
And this kind of definitionally makes him not a journalist.
Either he was there as an activist or he has so little restraint that he can be baited into an altercation by a flag being burned, which makes him a shitty and uncommitted journalist, and he doesn't, he shouldn't be out there.
He doesn't have the discipline.
There's some really strong indications here of like who's in and who's out with Trump's media regime.
And Alex should be recognizing that he's not wanted.
He's way too much of a liability.
And that room was filled with people who have either no power at all or they understand the importance of being a functionary.
Pesobic is a perfect example of what Trump wants because he has a clean-cut appearance.
He knows how to say flagrantly racist things in plausibly deniable ways.
And he has no real ambitions past doing what he's already doing.
He exists to create bullshit content that the administration can use to justify their illegal actions.
He doesn't think that God chose him as a kid to fight the devil.
Like, he knows this is, there's no career advancement that he needs.
Two weeks ago, a radical left terrorist in Dallas conducted a sniper attack on a local ICE facility, killing two people and leaving behind a note that read, hopefully this will give ICE agents some real terror.
That's bad.
This attack came the very same month that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a far-left extremist who inscribed the words, hey fascist catch, meaning catch the bullet, onto the bullet shelf itself.
The epidemic of left-wing violence and Antifa-inspired terror has been escalating for nearly a decade.
The Dallas sniper very well may have had some anti-ICE motives to his shooting, but there's no indication that he had any accomplices.
The guy who shot Charlie Kirk allegedly wrote what he did on his bullet casing as a joke, and it was a reference to Helldivers 2.
So neither of these guys seem like they have anything to do with organized left-wing politics in any form.
One of them killed themselves and the other was arrested.
So while it's unfortunate that they were able to carry out their crimes, I'm not sure what else law enforcement could have done in these cases, like that particularly the right wing would want them to do.
I mean, it's just going to be the FBI doing what they did to Muslims immediately after 9-11, where they're just going to convince people who otherwise would never do this to do it and then arrest them before they can.
They've used armed gangs to assault local police and cities nationwide, and they've attacked journalists reporting on their crimes.
So the journalists that report on their crimes.
Don't worry, you're very safe.
I hope that's not going to turn you around.
But they have been very threatening to people, but we're going to be very threatening to them, far more threatening to them than they ever were with us.
And that includes the people that fund them.
Probably some of the people I know, some of the people I dine with.
But if they do, they're in deep trouble.
So we're going to be looking very strongly at the people who are funding these operations.
He's very clearly saying that in order to ban something that the Constitution considers a protected right, he decided he can just ban whatever he wants that might incite a riot based on his definition.
Like you've never seen before these people getting worked up.
Wow.
If any of these people in that room had half a principle, they would recognize that their entire business model is built on incitement.
And if any government claims the power to ban things that they think could incite people, they better pray they never lose an election again.
Events like the Unite the Right rally that have been predicated entirely on incitement, but they were allowed to do those things because of the First Amendment.
Trump is now saying that free speech isn't free.
And all these dipshit free speech absolutists are nodding along with him and thanking him for it.
You know, but at least, at least you can rest assured that while the rules have been suspended and are meaningless now, when they do no longer have power and it is the Democrats and the like who have returned to power, they will reinstate the rules and those rules will keep them from holding any of those people accountable for them.
So on a number of occasions, Senator Blumenthal referred to his service as being, quote, in Vietnam when he should have said that he served, quote, during Vietnam.
I was in Portland yesterday and had the chance to visit with the governor of Oregon and also the mayor.
They're in town, and they are absolutely covering up the terrorism that is hitting their streets.
While you talked about some of the stories of our ICE agents, our Border Patrol agents, how they have been attacked, how they have been shot at, injured, the damage that they've done, these leaders in these local cities, along with Pritzker and Johnson, ignore what's going on or, sir, they're helping Antifa cover it up.
We have listed dozens of individuals that are Antifa members or affiliated with them.
And I want to thank our Attorney General for prosecuting them and making sure they never see the light of day again.
They have been so bold in making sure we're bringing those individuals to justice.
One of the individuals we arrested recently in Portland was the girlfriend of one of the founders of Antifa.
And that we are hoping that as we go after her, interview her, and prosecute her, we will get more and more information about the network and how we can root them out and eliminate them from the existence of American society.
So the head of the Department of Homeland Security is on camera sitting next to the president, accusing the governor of Oregon and the mayor of Portland of covering up or being complicit in terrorist subversion.
We are at a point where this rhetoric is designed to just be shit talk and it means nothing.
or people like Kristi Noem are saying very clearly that they intend to enact regime change on US cities and states.
I want to thank the new journalists here today for telling their stories and for being able and willing to go to the streets and to cover what's happening here in America.
Many times the legacy media has looked the other way, refused to tell the stories.
The networks have not really focused on what this is and what damage it is doing to our country and how this network of Antifa is just as sophisticated as MS-13, as TDA, as ISIS, as Hezbollah, as Hamas, as all of them.
They are just as dangerous.
They have an agenda to destroy us just like the other terrorists we've dealt with for many, many years.
And today is the day that we have a president that won't tolerate it and will stand up and fight for the American people.
So thank you for being here, for being so bold, and for standing in the gap at such a time as this.
It will matter.
It will make a difference.
And your life will be one of significance because of what you've done today.
President Trump, members of the cabinet, really appreciate you guys bringing this together.
And the fact that we are here today on such short notice shows how serious you guys are taking this issue of trans terrorists and the, frankly, the cities and police departments that are cooperating with Antifa, such as Portland.
I mean, the Portland politicians are literally willing to sacrifice their own citizens just to appease these Antifa terrorists.
Nick Sortor kicks things off, and it's interesting how off-message his jab at trans terrorists feels in this room.
All of the people in it hate trans people, and they're active participants in trying to create a hysteria around the issue.
But that's not what today is about.
This is about Antifa.
Focus.
And the shitheads who get to sit at this table, they know that it's not time to overcomplicate things.
It's basically a situation where everyone at that table knows that they have a win on their hands and the power they'll help Trump seize through this will be wielded against the LGBTQ community.
But that Trump doesn't like to get into that stuff.
Not when he's there.
He likes to have public face of tolerance, you know, like he hugged that pride flag at one time.
The anti-trans hysteria is for the audience on Twitter, but they're sitting with the president right now.
And they're supposed to be playing for an audience of one.
The only subjects you should be talking about are how Antifa is bad and hates Trump and how Trump has saved America.
That's it.
That's all we're talking about here.
A bigger point about Nick Sortor is how huge a shift this represents for Alex.
After the Boston bombing, he had his reporter Dan Badanti scream Infowars.com at a press conference in order to push ratings.
Now a guy who hosts a show on Alex's network, a level of responsibility he never would have given to Badandi, is sitting at a propaganda festival with the president and there's no InfoWars plug.
Later, everyone's even talking about good and bad media and no one says anything about Alex.
In the past, Alex commanded respect in this space and his ability to have an underling disrupt a press conference where public officials were trying to reassure and inform a terrified public reinforced that.
But now he has multiple people he's employed or currently employs sitting at this table and they understand that they wouldn't be sitting there if they openly touted their association with Alex.
Nick Sortor has value as a scrappy young journalist who just loves the flag, but that value diminishes really fast if people realize he's a backbencher at Infowars.
I believe one of the ones that I did a ride along with Secretary Noam yesterday, President Trump, and there was a pedophile that had come into the country five times over the past seven years.
Seven years.
And apparently under the Biden regime, that was just allowed to happen.
That was fine.
No problem.
It's concerning to me that you're seeing the Portland Police Department, as well as the governor of Oregon and the mayor, of course, coming out and running defense for pedophiles that have entered the country illegally five times.
It's crazy.
I'm glad it's taking a front row seat in the media.
And, you know, they're being forced to talk about it in reality because, you know, we're the ones that were on the ground.
We're the ones that are actually reporting what's going on.
And, you know, much of the legacy media has been either ignoring it or covering for Antifa for years now.
Things feel very weird in the room when Nick Sortor says this because the elephant in there with them is that Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are both now involved in the Epstein cover-up.
And Trump said the people who still care about that are stupid.
And then the whole satanic panic media ecosystem just decided to accept that and move on.
Nick is really showing his inexperience here because he said that this guy who got arrested, he'd been deported five times in the last seven years.
Seven years ago, Trump was president.
It doesn't really matter what the truth of this story is.
Nick needs to trim it up to be the last four years.
This is sloppy propaganda work where his messaging is off and he doesn't seem to know how to tie a bow on something.
So, this is a YouTuber named Brandy Cruz who has a show called Undivided.
The bio says it's, quote, political coverage for people who aren't insane, which is strange because by her own admission, until very recently, she was insane.
She claims she had Trump derangement syndrome for eight years, and there's legitimately no way that that could predate Trump coming down that escalator in 2015.
No one got Trump derangement syndrome from watching The Apprentice.
If you take her telling of it seriously, she was fanatically and incorrectly angry at Trump until about a year and a half ago.
So she seems dumb as shit.
In reality, she worked for a local news outlet in Seattle and quit in 2021 to try to go independent.
That field had really opened up over the pandemic, and a lot of really sloppy shitheads were making a lot of money, so it had to look like a pretty good idea.
She tried to do some news coverage that looked pretty down the middle, but also had some right-wing dog whistles built into it, but no one cared.
For her 100th episode, she interviewed Andrew Yang, and as it stands, there's less than a thousand views on YouTube for it.
Almost 100 years in some instances, going back to the Weimar Republic in Germany.
And it's now been just under one month since we saw a far leftist murder Charlie Kirk.
And we saw thousands upon thousands of people, other far leftists and people in positions of authority, people like nurses and pilots and doctors and HR departments, celebrating the death and the murder of Charlie Kirk.
This sickness that's out there is absolutely real.
And Mr. President, thank you for mentioning the fact that one of the bullet casings read hey fascist catch on it.
One of the other bullet casings right next to that had Bella Chow written on it.
Now, Bella Chow is a song that is known in Antifa circles as the international anthem of Antifa.
And all of us around the world around this room that have studied Antifa were very familiar with these symbols.
So unlike Nick Sortor and this former Trump derangement syndrome patient, Jack Poseobic is used to this game.
It may not be every day that he's sitting at the table with the president, but he knows how to act like he's been there before and have message discipline.
This isn't a sincere fact-finding mission that Trump is on where he's invited experts to inform him.
This is a propaganda spectacle meant to solidify in people's minds that Antifa is the worst thing in the world so the public will accept it when Trump does horrible shit in the name of fighting them.
That's why it's important to pay attention to how Jack is framing this.
His words are far more intentional than many of the other people at this table.
And it's worth noting that he traces the lineage of Antifa to the Weimar Republic.
Nazis aren't just Nazis for the fun of it or because of a random ideology they just decided to take on.
He's like, oh, this is my hat now.
They think that Nazism was an appropriate response to the decadence and degeneracy of pre-Nazi Germany or the Weimar Republic.
The Nazis didn't get away with attacking the Jews for no reason.
It was because the Nazis were able to blame them for eroding society to the point where something had to be done.
This is the same game that Jack is trying to play now.
These evil Antifa left-wing forces have eroded the United States to the point where something has to be done.
Either we have to let Trump use the military to occupy these disobedient cities, or else a Hitler-type figure might emerge and try to use the military to occupy these disobedient cities.
The level of dishonesty with the media is incredible, whether it's on Antifa or many of the other groups.
You know, you're talking about Antifa, and I know that's close to your heart because that's the one that's most affecting you.
But there are others that are as bad or almost as bad as Antifa, having to do with different people, different sections of the world, but it's terrible.
We're not going to let it go on in this country.
We're not going to let it go on.
And a big problem is not all of them, but some of the networks out there.
He also was at January 6th, but his video does seem like he's more of a YouTuber guy trying to monetize a freak show than he was interested in Trump at all.
Then in December 2021, he posted a video announcing that he'd be going away for two years because he was going on a LDS mission to Santiago, Chile.
Great.
All of his prank videos, even the ones about going to like post Malone's house, got under 100,000 views.
But then he came back from his mission trip and started posting very political content, mostly about immigrants.
From this point on, all of his videos are like bashing immigrants with titles like, quote, illegal immigrants are living for free in this city.
And quote, I caught illegal immigrants crossing the border.
After the ball got rolling with this new brand, Shirley did a strange video titled, quote, How This Country Solved Illegal Immigration.
It was about El Salvador, and the image for the video said, quote, no migrants, no crime.
This was just a puff piece about Bukele, which would end up leading to Nick's biggest hit.
Bukele allowed him to come visit the Seacott detention facility and make a video about how the people in there were scary and how Bukeley had solved the country's gang problems by putting all the scary people in one scary place.
It was perfect content for the right-wing media at the time, and Nick got himself over 6 million views on that.
And what appears to be a lasting relationship with the Bukele government.
Just six months later, Nick would return and make a video about how the prisons in El Salvador were good now, which is exactly what the right-wing media needed at that point.
Trump was paying Bukele to house people who he was deporting, so people were a little upset about the conditions that he might be sending them to.
And Nick's last video made it look like she was pretty rough.
They were trying to scare people about the immigrants you didn't want coming here back then, but now the goal was to alleviate people's empathy about sending people to scary prisons.
The last one got less than half of the views of the first one, because of course it did.
Anyway, this dipshit 23-year-old former prank YouTuber turned police state advocate is hanging out with the president while the president reflects on how maybe some media outlets are Antifa and he should go after them.
So obviously the ultimate goal of this is to take some demonization that you're building up around this nebulous, vague idea of Antifa and then apply it to the places that you want.
We want Antifa to be designated as a terrorist organization, and we want to pretend that all Democratic socialists are Antifa and therefore terrorists.
And then we can just apply this label to anybody that we want on the left, writ large.
So when you have a governor like Pritzker in Chicago, where you have Illinois, which is in a lot of trouble, Chicago's there, you know, potentially a great city again.
It's not great now, but it could be great again.
That's why we have to get there soon because eventually you can't do that.
What makes a man like that say that things are wonderful?
Why doesn't he say we love that President Trump is going to come and help us clean up Chicago and make it safe again, as opposed to fighting us and pretending that there weren't 50 murders and 200 shootings and all of that?
It has to be, of course, it has to be mind-melting, the idea that the dumbest and most pathetic thing you can do is sit next to the president of the United States, right?
You can't be one of these guys and get the call.
Do you want to do this with the president of the United States and be like, you know what?
Thinking ahead, I don't want to be an embarrassment for the rest of my life.
Have you given any more thought to possibly suspending Mbias Corpus to not only deal with these insurrectionists across the nation, but also to continue rapidly deporting illegal aliens?
Earlier in this episode, Trump said that he took the freedom of speech away from flag burning.
And that wasn't a gaffe.
That wasn't misspeaking.
That was a man directly stating that he opposes free speech.
It was a president saying that he does not respect the court's understanding of the Constitution, which means that we don't really have a coherent constitution.
The courts have come to one decision, and the president is enforcing a different one.
And that creates an unstable situation.
Similarly, this habeas corpus thing is not a gaff.
He doesn't understand the basic legal principle that you need to have evidence of a crime to arrest someone.
You can't just round people up and then figure out if they've committed crimes later.
He heard the verb suspend, so he assumed this was about someone he should fire, not the bedrock of all American civil liberty.
I'm sure he's heard the words habeas corpus before, but he just doesn't have any thoughts about them.
Now, this is strange because last I had heard from Tucker, he was interviewing Lee Strobel about demons.
And then he did another interview with another guy who no one's ever fucking heard of about how the blockchain was created in order to give demons physical bodies.
I mean, they would, like, listen, I don't know how you can have both demons, the source of evil and strife for all, and then also unrelated to demons, Antifa, right?
Well, not to be depressing, but here's the truth and something you should keep in mind over the next few years.
The United States, two things to keep in mind.
The United States is moving, not inexorably, but still moving toward civil war, number one.
And number two, civil wars are the very worst kind of wars, worse than any kind of war fought against a foreign adversary.
So to number one, why is America moving towards civil war?
For the same reason, all countries that wind up in civil war get there because the differences between their population between people within their borders becomes too great to bear.
People decide, I have nothing in common with people who live near me, and I don't want to live near them anymore.
See, now I always viewed civil wars differently as like maybe a bunch of rich people wanted to grab more or different territory within their already controlled bounds, and then they gathered two different groups, like gang leaders, essentially.
Oftentimes, there are the ripples of colonialist history that ring down through time, that pit two groups against each other within a that happens sometimes.
And the truth about the United States is that on every level, beginning with a demographic level, the American population has less in common with itself, with one another, than ever before.
That was possible.
When I was born, which wasn't that long ago, it was the modern era, was air travel and air conditioning, electricity.
When I was born, the United States was about 90% white Christian.
It's now less than 10%.
90% white Christian.
Now, you may think that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's a massive change, an unprecedented change, really, in a very short period of time.
And of course, it's not accidental or organic.
That was the result of policies put in place to achieve that result.
And they did.
There are people who didn't want a majority white Christian country.
Okay.
They got what they wanted.
But what do they have?
They have a country with no majority demographically at all.
There is no American majority, which is to say, 51% of people have something very basic in common.
And so what you have is an inherently fractured country.
Languages, religions, ethnicities, backgrounds, beliefs, too innumerable to catalog.
And so a country like that, unless unified by something, will split apart, particularly when that country is the size of a continent and is held together by a pretty fragile web of infrastructure, air routes and highways.
And so, unless you are very self-conscious about keeping it together physically, but also spiritually, explaining to people why they should have any regard at all, much less any obligation to people in, say, the next town, much less the next state.
Unless you do that self-consciously, unless you inculcate a sense of national identity, it will by nature fall apart.
Like, way more than 51% of the country subscribes to capitalist ideas, but like, that's not going to work for Tucker because far too many people have seen through the false promises that system is built on.
And Tucker's supposed to be a populist type guy, so he can't do that.
Without white Christians having all the power, we're doomed to tower of Babel ourselves all over again, and we're gonna end up in a civil war at the top of that tower.
Nobody in charge of the United States over the past, say, 40 years has really tried to articulate why all of us should live together on the same continent.
There's kind of been an unspoken case of America, a kind of gay rights technocracy, globo homo.
We're all kind of cool with, you know, lifestyles.
But that's thin gruel in the end.
It's also repulsive.
But even if you like it, it's not enough to hold people together who don't have common beliefs, backgrounds, languages, religions.
This globo homo thing is cute, but it reveals how shallow Tucker's discussion of any of these types of issues is.
A belief in LGBTQ rights can be built on a bunch of different foundations, but ultimately it comes down to like self-determination.
If you're a man and you love another man, do you think the state should tell you not to?
Like if you're not the gender you were assigned at birth, do you think the state should force you to live a life that you don't identify with?
When shit doesn't hurt other people, America is supposed to be on the side of letting people choose how they want to live and making room for everyone.
This is ironically the American identity that I think does unite us.
You know, and I think that the way that Tucker's talking about that, it just, it makes me think that either he is stupid or he has an expectation that his audience is stupid and doesn't have any real engagement with the ideas of like, what is cool about America?
Well, the first thing to know is it would be incredibly violent because wars are by nature violent and civil wars especially so.
Violent and crazy.
And you do hear from time to time people on both sides, particularly on the left, but not only on the left, say, well, I'm just sick of it.
I'm just sick of it.
You know, I'm ready.
I'm ready for the fight.
People who say that I've never seen what that looks like.
Anyone who has seen what that looks like approaches the entire topic with care and respect because it's incredibly ugly and its effects are generational.
And if you don't believe it, consider our own Civil War, which ended 160 years ago in 1865, and we're still fighting it.
We're still arguing over the names of Confederate generals, tearing down their statues, renaming military bases, stereotyping people in the South.
That war is still ongoing on some level.
It's not a hot war, but it's very much a cold war and has been for 160 years.
Go to Spain.
Their civil war ended in, what, 1939?
They're still arguing about it.
They're still passing legislation about it.
The wounds left by civil wars do not heal quickly.
They last for, I don't know, hundreds of years, and they completely remake the country, usually for the worse.
I wonder what it's like to grow up with that kind of wealth or like in that kind of wealth association where it is like you could have legitimately people being like, man, if only I still had my slaves as a totally normal conversational thing.
So if you want to prevent a civil war, figure out what everybody, or at least the bulk of the people in your nation, have in common and emphasize that.
And so what would that be in our case?
Hard to know.
In fact, at this stage, really the only realistic hope for national unity is spiritual revival.
It's a place where most Americans wake up to realize that God exists and created every single person in the United States of America.
And that's what we have in common, our humanity.
Not because our common humanity is meaningful by itself, but because our common humanity comes from God and we're created in his image.
And only when people truly realize that will they hesitate before killing each other.
But in the meantime, there is a step that the government at all levels, federal, state, and local, can take to restore at least a sense of calm in the midst of rising chaos.
And if you can't smell that right now, then you obviously have long COVID because it is redolent.
This country is on the brink.
And in fact, you saw the normal dummies today on social media taking pictures from Portland, Oregon.
Everything is fine here in Portland.
They're liars or they're intentionally blind to the reality right in front of them, which is the country is degrading.
And you can tell by its cities, they are falling apart.
There's no country in the world with as many ugly, dangerous, dysfunctional, dirty cities as we have.
It's painful to say that as someone who was born and has always lived here and plans to always live here, but that's a fact.
And as someone who travels a lot, I can affirm what you already know.
And as someone who travels a lot, I can tell you this until I need to tell you something different that's more convenient to me demonizing another country that has all the shitty cities and is a fucking hellhole and they're sending their worst people over here.
Just to be clear, what divides us is a lack of shared unity, which is why I'm letting you know that the city you're in is fine, but every other human being in every other city is fucking crazy and is going to kill you at any single moment.
Why is he acting upset about the possibility of the thing he wanted?
It's weird, isn't it?
So I believe that Tucker is a keen enough observer to see that Trump is on his way to a complete dictatorship and that he needs to get ahead of this thing.
Going against Trump is scary because there's actual consequences for that.
And other than Trump's audience, no one likes Tucker.
So that's not an option.
The next best choice is to accept that Trump is a dictator, but act like we brought it on ourselves, which is what Tucker is doing in this video.
He said, those of us on the East Coast and look over at the West Coast, my home state of California, and watch its politicians declare boycotts against this or that American state or say in public, I'm not going to follow this federal law.
The federal government has no dominion here.
We all sort of laugh.
Oh, they're so crazy.
Each one of those actions is a form of insurrection.
In fact, every bit as profound as anything that happened in Fort Sumter in 1861, the battle that kicked off the Civil War, the deadliest war in American history, the one from which we're still recovering.
Those are acts of insurrection.
Either you have a federal government with power over the states or you don't.
Either federal laws apply to all 50 states or they don't.
And for decades, some states have opted out of federal law and the rest of the states have just sort of laughed at them or tried to ignore it.
Oh, marijuana is illegal.
We're going to have marijuana anyway.
Oregon decriminalized fentanyl and meth five years ago.
If ever there was a time to send federal troops into Oregon, it was when Oregon did that.
I mean, of course he does understand, but like so much of the Tea Party, so much of that was energized by stuff like Jade Helm, stuff like the Bundy Ranch, shit like that.
Like, this is directly counter to everything that is the foundation of where his power sits.
National Guardsmen have arrived, mostly from Texas, in the state of Illinois, in Chicago, to force, the president says, that city to allow ICE, the Immigration Service, federal immigration officers, to do their job, to deport people who are breaking federal law, illegal aliens.
And the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Illinois have said multiple times, we do not follow federal immigration law in the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago.
Tucker's version of this issue is bullshit, which is by design, because it's meant to create the impression that Chicago and Portland deserve to be invaded and occupied.
It's weird that the Oregon case is too complicated for Tucker to get into because it's really simple.
Trump wanted to take over the Oregon National Guard and send them into Portland, and the governor said no.
Trump wanted to do it anyway, so the state sued him, and the district court ruled that he couldn't take over the Oregon Guard.
So he decided that he was just going to use National Guard troops from other states and send them into Portland.
So then the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals heard the case and ruled that Trump could federalize the Oregon National Guard, but that it couldn't go into Portland until the court fully reviews the case.
Trump has insisted on sending troops into an American city, and the courts are putting up ineffectual resistance to it.
Trump has, in effect, destroyed posse comitatus and state sovereignty, two of the main pillars of the modern conservative ideology that supposedly drove him into office and these people are supposed to care so much about.
But he's just, he's, to borrow a preoccupation of Alex, he's pissing all over them.
When this happened and the conflict happened, they took it to the courts and people expected to, they, you know, they listened.
What should have happened is they should have just gone to the people in the Oregon National Guard and been like, hey, let's all say we're not going to do this.
Well, I mean, this was a preoccupation of the early times right wing, which is this idea that troops would not, they would sign things that they wouldn't follow unconstitutional orders.
Has there ever been a single instance of some Nazi in the White House sending troops into a state to uphold federal?
It's never happened before.
It's never happened before, except it's happened like a million times.
And it's been celebrated almost every single time.
Beginning at least in September of 1957, three years after the Brown versus Board of Education decision came out from the Supreme Court banning segregation in public schools in the United States.
And in the state of Arkansas, in the capital city, Little Rock, Central High School, a high school, was not following your pro-segregation decision.
And so Dwight David Eisenhower, General Eisenhower, commander of American troops in Europe during World War II, the president of the United States, sent the 101st airborne to central high school.
The 101st airborne, not like 300 fat guardsmen from San Antonio, but the 101st airborne with M1s to a high school.
And then he left his vacation and he went on television to explain why he did it.
And remarkably, thanks to the internet, we have the tape.
In that city, under the leadership of demagogic extremists, disorderly mobs have deliberately prevented the carrying out of proper orders from a federal court.
Local authorities have not eliminated that violent opposition.
And under the law, I yesterday issued a proclamation calling upon the mob to disperse.
Yep, that was General then President Eisenhower, September 1957, sending the 101st airborne to Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas, because the racist governor, Orville Faubus, wouldn't let black students attend a white high school.
There's a big difference, though, between these situations that Tucker is hoping that you don't notice, which is where the big racist sleight of hand trick happens.
What Supreme Court order is Trump sending troops into Chicago and Portland to enforce?
No, sometimes it does feel like this is just like, hey, I know you've been in this situation before where you feel like I'm not being racist, but at the same time, you're saying the N-word.
And you know, in the same way that when Trump is saying, like, these pillars of the Constitution don't apply, it's just like fucking take over the government already.
The Democratic Party's activist wing, all the little DSA kids, you know, the children of orthodontists from Great Deck who are, you know, reliving the glories of the 60s or whatever.
To anyone who's watched this stuff over the years.
A repulsive group, a dangerous group, a sad group, by the way.
You shouldn't have a lot of people.
I'm going to go to the library.
They should be looking forward to a brighter future, getting married, having kids, doing something useful, building something, not just destroying.
But they're not.
So that is recognizable.
We've seen a lot of that over the past 10 years, and we're going to see a lot more going forward, unfortunately, unless someone gets a hold of this now.
But what was new in that video were what looked like immigrants, Latin American immigrants.
Rapid mass migration is always bad because it makes countries crazy and chaotic.
But it's also true that our Latin American immigrants are, I mean, probably met a million of them.
Good people.
Super hard workers.
And it's true that they're doing jobs that, you know, you probably did as a kid.
And your kids probably aren't doing those jobs because Latin Americans are doing them.
I'm saying this if you're white.
So I think most people who are very opposed to illegal immigration and very opposed to mass migration, at this point, very opposed to any immigration, which would include me, definitely, are not mad at Latin American immigrants because they're mostly nice people.
They're Christian people.
And they work hard.
And there's some drunk driving, but in general, they kind of play by the rules.
Does Tucker not remember all the hysteria he's been pushing about MS-13 and Trendre Aragua?
Does he think that he's presented a neutral kind of nice face for immigrants and that he's now turning the corner because he saw a clip of some people who weren't white at a protest?
Do you know what I appreciate because it happens so frequently now, especially whenever we're talking about Latin immigrants or whatever euphemism these chosen people are choosing to use?
So if all of a sudden these migrants are participating in street protests where they're throwing bricks through the windows of passing cars, picking up orange cones and throwing them at minivans, you could see this getting completely out of control.
And it's a reminder of something that is very often true, which is civil wars become race wars.
That is the truth.
It's true globally.
It was in Latin America.
Lots of the wars in Latin America were really between the Europeans and the indigenous, between the Indians and the civilization.
Are you saying it's a civil war whenever the people who live somewhere like, we don't want these white people here who are trying to take our resources and shit?
And not necessarily that it's going to cause it directly, but it is a part of what is causing the, it's a part of the wave that is cresting and is going to hurt a lot of people.
And this is supposed to be the, you know, party of personal responsibility, the people who are like, hey, you know, like you should be able to make your own choices.
Like, the thing that I thought was so interesting was these things are in theory not connected to each other.
You know, you've got the Trump press conference with all these shitheads, and then you got Tucker.
And they're both really working overtime to make the message that people in these cities are just too decadent and everything has gotten to the point where we need to crush them or else we will need to crush them.
And it's a false choice.
And it's basically just, you know, like you said, textbook.
It's textbook propaganda tactics to justify horrible things you're planning to do.
I just feel like here's what I feel like is happening.
And it's a fundamental misunderstanding of where we are.
It is textbook, right?
But it's also all theater.
Like the idea of this, it would almost, it would make more sense to me if I'm thinking through this about how to not like try and win the next four years.
I'm trying to win America.
I'm trying to weather the next four years so that there will still be an America after this.
Right?
And so what I'm thinking is going like, holy shit, Trump, you did a great job.
You sent the troops in.
You fixed everything, and then you're good.
Or send him in.
Occupy him.
We'll give him a place to live.
Just do everything possible to make him feel like what he wants to happen is happening without actually doing anything.
But the unfortunate thing is that he's surrounded by, and a lot of the people who are in key decision-making positions also want to do the things that he wants to do.
I'm not saying that like Trump has told Tucker he's going to do a bunch of this horrible shit or whatever.
Right.
It just feels like the people who are in these media positions are situating themselves in such a way that they can survive or justify Trump doing horrible things.