Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dismantle Owen Shroyer’s The Elephants in the Room stream, exposing his misleading framing of "Jewish influence" claims and $35–$2,000-tier gold scam sponsorship. They mock his baseless conspiracy theories—like fabricating Charlie Kirk’s anti-Israel stance despite his pro-Zionist speeches and Netanyahu visits—while debunking his twisted graph about U.S. tech funding. Shroyer’s performative "cuck destroyer" persona crumbles under their ridicule, revealing a pattern of manufactured outrage over actual political engagement, especially on Gaza. His selective, divisive rhetoric mirrors broader media bias critiques but lacks self-awareness or substance, proving he’s more noise than movement in right-wing discourse. [Automatically generated summary]
So there's one thing about them that I particularly enjoy, which is that the violin we think of oftentimes in like the Vivaldi way is a very sweet, you know, kind of high-pitched, you know, a very beautiful note.
But if you tune it down low and you kind of use a real kind of scruffed up bow, you can get a really dark sound.
Like, this music sounds like if you walked into a saloon, a ghost cowboy is listening to it.
Here's the problem: is that I don't want to follow up with him because I strongly suspect no matter what it is he chooses to do, I will say what you should be doing is something completely different, you fucking idiot.
Yeah, and I think that might be where you end up at the conclusion of this episode.
But on September 16th, he released a stream titled The Elephants in the Room.
And if I were guessing based on the title, I would bet that this would be about Alex going off on him and accusing him of extortion and being a demon and being a snitch.
I strongly suspect he has not understood what the phrase elephants in the room means, and he is not talking about the actual literal elephant in the room.
It's a strange thing, though, because Limp Biscuit's been pretty clear that they don't like people like him.
New Metal has an aesthetic that's very right-wing coded, mostly because of the right-wing figures in the media.
They like to pretend that they have a monopoly over things like masculinity, aggression, poverty, and being white.
Underneath a lot of those surface-level things, a lot of the time, these figures are more progressive than they appear to be.
For instance, after the 2016 RNC, Limp Biscuits guitarist Wes Borland came out and directly told Trump fans to go fuck themselves and stop following him.
Owen plays Limp Biscuit's new song, which is called Making Love to Morgan Wallen, a title he strangely never says.
The first line of that song is Damn, I miss you, Chester, which is a reference to Lincoln Park's lead singer Chester Bennington, who died of suicide in 2017.
I love Lincoln Park's first few albums.
And if you could listen to their music and ever think that they would like Owen Schroyer, you're insane.
If you can't pick up on the subtext of their songs, Chester did tweet in 2015, quote, Donald Trump is a greater threat to the United States than terrorism.
This is a remarkable song choice for Owen because it reveals how shallow his analysis of everything around him is.
He sees Fred Durst and assumes he's just a cool racist like Kid Rock, but he's the guy who directed the rearranged music video.
Owen is one of the people watching Limp Biscuit get drowned in milk, and he doesn't even realize it.
He's metaphorically the people that they want to break their face.
We're both hearing it together for the first time.
I thoroughly enjoyed that.
Owen Schroyer Live, episode 116, The Elephants in the Room coming to you, as always, through the Owen.gold microphone to become a member of the club at Owen.gold, the only membership that pays you back in gold.
Owen.gold takes you to a webpage for a company called Wolfpack.gold, which is unsurprisingly a gold sales operation.
Wolfpack Gold is an online precious metals and Bitcoin shop, which is owned by another company called Wise Wolf, which is a precious metals physical store with locations in Branson, Missouri, and Denison, Texas.
So the privacy notice on Wolfpack.gold's website informs people who go to it that the company is run by an entity called Wise Wolf Digital Strategies LLC, aka Wise Wolf Bitcoin.
This is an operation run by a guy named Tony Arterburn Jr., a longtime cryptocurrency promoter who's from Rockwall, Texas, the same Dallas suburb where Alex grew up.
Tony Arterburn Sr.'s name appears on a ton of filing documents with the Secretary of State of Texas for what appear to be gas stations and check cashing places, whereas most of Junior's businesses appear to be like in the crypto field.
I couldn't figure out the relationship, but I think that they're related to Stephen Arterburn, who's the founder of New Life Ministries, one of the most profitable Christian organizations in the world.
So either Owen's microphone sponsor is part of one of the most influential Christian families in the country, or he's a crypto enthusiast who has the same last name.
Yeah, and you know, there's a there's a Buck 65, he's a Canadian rapper, a song called Craftsmanship, where he's just talking about the process of shining a shoe.
You know, you know, they don't do it like they used to.
Owen's going to try to play semantic games and pretend that he's criticizing the Israeli government or Zionism, but there's a reason that he feels the need to call out the come to Jesus pun aspect of this because it's about Jews.
Everything we're going through here, everything we've been through together, all the moments that have led to this, all seem to be building up to where we're about to be.
And this moment that we're about to have, all of us together, is going to be the big come to Jesus moment.
And I think everything after that tells us where we're really at.
And sometimes, you know, maybe you feel this way about this one story or that one story or one person does or a couple.
This one, everybody seems to be kind of on the same frequency, on the same vibe.
Now, things might be going different directions, but everybody kind of feels this.
Everybody kind of feels that we're about to have this moment together.
And it's going to be the most telling moment of where we're really at politically and where we're really at with this Trump administration.
The MAGA movement has to decide whether it's the Fourth Reich or not.
And pretty much everyone in his media space gets that they've fucked up the game and they're going to be forced to show their cards.
On a basic level, the patriot nationalist movement that Owen is describing, it's a mutation that grew out of two ideologies.
One, the South should have won the Civil War.
And two, communism is the greatest evil in the world.
The natural combination of these two strains gets found in the belief that the civil rights movement was a secret communist plot to overthrow Christianity.
Their worldview is based on being mad when society comes together to agree to stop beating up particular groups of people for being different, which is why their big tent includes so many racists and Nazis.
Whether or not they agree on everything, they have basic causes in common, like maintaining what they believe is the natural social hierarchy.
At a certain point, it became poor form to express their views publicly because they sucked.
And the basic point that they were trying to make was something that our culture had already rejected.
They couldn't push their ideas about racial supremacy without risking being beaten up or ostracized from polite society, so they adapted.
They used codes that allowed them to communicate their bigot ideas while appearing to be saying something more socially acceptable so they could have their cake and eat it too.
They didn't realize that they were sitting in a boat on a calm lake where they got to signal to racists and energize their audience with direct appeals to racist shit while pretending that they were talking about politics because that lake was artificially propped up by the dam that is political correctness.
In their zeal to tear down all the annoying aspects of PC culture, they didn't realize that if everyone can just speak freely, then no one will buy their half-assed racism anymore.
In the past, it was completely possible to think that someone like Alex was secretly talking about the Jews when he said globalists, but he knew that if he spoke freely, he'd be taken off air.
But now, it's pretty clear you can say whatever the fuck you want, and no one's going to stop you.
If you insult Trump in a way that pisses him off personally, you might be in trouble.
But no one can possibly believe that anyone is holding their tongue out of fear of being called a racist anymore.
So that environment requires facing some elephants in the room.
The time is fast approaching when these guys are going to have to put up or shut up.
And I think Owen realizes that.
And if he reads the comments on his videos, then he also realizes that when that moment of truth comes, he's going to have to go Nazi to keep an audience.
Like, there's not enough people who are wanting the code.
And I think that there's this really bizarre tone that he strikes, which is like, I think he reads this correctly in terms of like his media space, their game, like there's a hole in the boat.
Yeah, I think he wants that and doesn't realize that like, no, no, no, the point of the hole in the boat is that like you don't have supplies to patch it up.
Yeah, he has the he has the like survival instinct of working at InfoWars for a long time, but he doesn't have the ability to think through what is actually happening.
He just knows like there's a tingle on the back of my neck.
And Alex, because Alex was never a true believer, was always able to, you know, like, eh, maybe I'm not supposed to do this, but here's where I go, and now I'm making a lot of money.
So the continued war, the continued funding of war, this is an elephant in the room.
This is an elephant in the room.
You've got the MAGA movement, the MAGA culture, the MAGA media, the MAGA politics.
It has now been co-opted by Never Trumpers and Israeli loyalists.
That's a fact.
A victim of an anti-Semitic speech gets more direct access and Hart felt welcoming to the White House than a Purple Heart veteran that was persecuted for January 6th and spent years in jail.
So as Owen goes through the elephants that he sees in the room, you start to see a little bit of a thread emerge.
He's just saying that Israel runs our government, which is the same thing that the extreme right wing has been saying the whole time he's been alive.
When he was just a baby, the Aryan nations people were yelling about a zog, and Alex was running around suggesting they say globalists and making a buck off it.
I think if you are in the same way that if Alex has been enabled so completely in such a way that you can see him behaving like this and will never stop behaving like this, I think Owen has been enabled insofar as nobody's challenged him on how stupid he is.
But one way or another, he's going to learn the hard way that there's a reason that Alex does what he does.
Actually, there's two reasons.
One is that it's necessary in order to keep the show exciting and feel like the end of the world is constantly happening, which is the only way to push sales.
Alex's show was the profit driver of Infowars because he didn't let yesterday's land invasion get in the way of today's panic.
The second thing is that if Owen tries to impose continuity on his narratives, everything is going to fall apart.
Nothing in this world makes any sense if the past exists.
And if you try to make the past mean anything, it means that you have to learn in the future.
Whatever amazing revelation you had today has to be part of your knowledge base tomorrow.
So you have to build from there.
And that's fucking impossible if you're trying to play these dumb games.
Alex's strategy, which Owen is insulting, is the perfect fix for both of these problems with sensationalist bullshit propaganda.
And Owen's going to find out that without it, his show is going to be boring and unprofitable.
Like overlaid on top of reality is all of his bullshit on top of all of the total bullshit from the right wing that he's supposed to believe, on top of all of this stuff.
But once you strip away the layers and all that stuff, he's got nothing.
But in order for me to make the point that I want to make about these elephants and what he's talking about, I need to jump ahead a little bit later in the show to when Owen actually plays this clip of Pam Bondi.
Democrat governor, Jewish, they firebombed his house while his wife and children were sleeping upstairs.
It's a miracle.
Nothing worse happened.
It's a miracle that nothing happened to Josh and he and his family are safe.
They're traumatized, but that's what's happened in this world.
And we are going to fight every step of the way to show that you will face the most severe consequences if you come after someone and you target someone for their political views or for any reason at all.
So the reason this is particularly important is because it helps make clear that what connects these elephants he's complaining about is that they remind him of Jewish people he doesn't like.
Not that they're connected to a criticism of Israel.
Now, what's strange is they announced this and they made an ex-post.
Turning point USA made an ex-post tonight.
This story came out on the 13th, public memorial for Charlie Kirk to be held at State Farm Stadium.
And then they announced tonight, Turning Point USA announced that Trump would be speaking and Vance would be speaking and Erica Kirk would be speaking and then a ton of other huge names speaking.
And then they actually erased the post.
They erased the flyer.
I don't know what that's about.
That just happened right before I went live.
But so now we're all going to be in the same room for Kirk's memorial service.
And now the biggest elephant in the room will be with us with all the other elephants, which is the Kirk assassination strangeness of the whole thing.
And dare I even say cover-up.
Boo.
That's now the biggest elephant in the room.
And we've already got a lot of elephants in the room, folks.
And now the biggest one just came in, and now we're all about to be in the room together.
But I think that he's right about this funeral idea and how they're stuck in the room with each other because of Kirk's death.
Sure.
Charlie Kirk was so successful that both sides of the far right want to own him and claim him as theirs.
The racist Nazi types hated that he supported Israel, but loved how he would talk about how whites were superior to other races.
The more mainstream right wing, they're currently trying to sand down some of these racist edges, but even with all that, they love how he carried himself like a polite young man in a suit and he pretended to be college-aged, so their views didn't look so archaic.
In essence, we have, he's correctly described all the different ways people are trying to strip mine Charlie Kirk.
Everybody is doing their own version of this thing, but by doing so, they have once again removed all Charlie Kirkness.
So in this memorial service that they're supposed to be Charlie Kirking about, they all have to confront the fact that they've made up their own Charlie Kirks to bring with them to the funeral.
It would be more interesting if this was done in a reality show like The Apprentice, where they've got eight different Charlie Kirk ghosts and Trump has to choose which one everybody's going to go with.
At least then everybody would have a concept to go with instead of having to try and advocate for their own and then sound like lunatics.
And quite frankly, you know, I don't even know because I try to look at all the different angles and I try to take all the different perspectives.
I don't even know what you do at this point if you're Trump, honestly, because it's like if you don't show up, you look bad.
But if you do show up and talk to people and don't address the elephants in the room, you also look bad.
So I don't even know what you do in this moment, but you let the elephants in the room.
And so now here we are.
So it's unfortunate, but it's true that now this memorial for Charlie Kirk.
And look, what we hope is the most important thing is that somehow his family, his friends, the Turning Point USA family, you know, the people that are suffering from this, his loved ones, the people that are actually suffering from this loss, that saw Charlie every day, his children.
You know, the most important thing is for them to somehow get closure or have some sort of a moment in that moment where people are respecting Charlie and everybody there together.
We're raising Charlie up and we're raising the family up and we're showing them how much Charlie meant to everybody and how much we love them and we're with them.
I mean, here's the thing that I love about these people and that they'll never understand, or maybe that they do understand, but they have to dedicate so much brain space to denying.
But if you ask the question, what would Trump even do?
So, yeah, I mean, Trump is kind of screwed because everyone knows that he loves attention and would always go to something like this.
So if he doesn't go, then it's a middle finger to the Kirk people turning point.
Below to people who very rightfully can claim that they really helped him get elected.
Yeah.
But then if he goes and he doesn't like fucking tear down these mainstream right-wing people and these fucking cowards, then the bigot side of the family is going to be pissed off.
Like, I sincerely believe that people just remember him being on TV TV and they forget if he gets a hot mic in front of him, he's going to say something fucked up.
Now, I'll just say this quickly, and then we'll get into the actual content.
This is where I'm at as far as the spectrum of possibility.
This is where I'm at a week after the Charlie Kirk assassination.
The spectrum of possibility here.
I would say the best case scenario we have is that the FBI botched this job so bad.
The FBI leadership, local leadership, just the whole, the whole thing, law enforcement, they botched this thing so badly.
And it is such an embarrassment how badly they botched this deal that they're just coming out here and trying to package it and wrap it and deliver it to you and say, just here it is.
Just take it and go.
Here it is.
Just take it and go.
Here's the text messages.
Yeah, they just conveniently perfectly tie up a lot of our loose ends here.
Come on, just take it.
The security footage, the footage behind Charlie Kirk, all these other weirdness, these things going on, these other questions.
If this is what the FBI is doing, then it stands to reason that the texts and the evidence against the shooter aren't real.
Otherwise, they would be explaining a killer's actions, not begging the public to accept a version of the story to distract from how badly they fucked the case up.
Right.
I don't think this is a best case scenario.
Like, I can think of about 20 scenarios that are better for Owen if he just is allowed to make up whatever he wants.
This is a great illustration of how useless Owen's analysis is.
Best case scenario: the FBI got the right guy, but they fucked up the case so bad they had to create fake evidence to convince everyone to just move along.
Worst case scenario, literally everyone in the world could be involved and have foreknowledge of the plot.
Owen's gut is saying it's somewhere between those two markers.
Owen's speaking to a real feeling that folks in his sphere have, which is that if Trump meets with Netanyahu at the White House now, they will have to admit that the version of Trump that they've been supporting for the past three elections was fake.
Yeah.
And that's a really, that's a crisis moment that he can see coming.
If you're stuck with, let's say, a best case scenario where the FBI has covered up how much Owen sucks and a worst case scenario where the FBI has covered up how much everybody sucks, I guess that we go with the best case scenario.
Now, here's what's interesting about this as well.
You know, there's this big back and forth about conversations that were happening between Kirk and Netyahoo and a bunch of big donors that are Israel supporters.
And they're trying to deny that it all happened in the different context.
I mean, does that not confirm it?
That confirms it right there.
Netanyahu invited Charlie Kirk to Israel and he didn't go.
Owen's pretending that Netanyahu said that Kirk turned the invitation down because the goal is to make Kirk an anti-Israel, anti-Netanyahu figure now that he's dead.
This is about the factions of the far right fighting over Charlie's corpse.
And the real inconvenient reality for folks on Owen's side is that Charlie was a public supporter of Israel to the point where Nick Fuentes tried to destroy him over it.
Last month, he was on Megan Kelly's show and he said, quote, I think I have a bulletproof resume showing my defense of Israel, both on campus, on social media, to great mockery and scorn sometimes because I believe it.
I believe in the scriptural land rights given to Israel.
I believe in fulfillment of prophecy.
And again, I'm not a theologian, but I'm a Christian.
My life was changed in Israel.
The spiritual energy there is so amazing.
That's right.
His life was changed there because he's already visited Israel multiple times.
There's a video of him from 2019 in Jerusalem speaking to Im Turtzu, which is a Zionist organization.
He's speaking in front of a backdrop that says, quote, building the Zionist dream.
And they have these maniacs with these cameras right in their face, trying to provoke them, trying to profile them.
And I think to myself, if they only knew the self-restraint, if they only knew the moral conduct that the IDF operates with every day, get down!
The terrorists of Hamas and Hezbollah.
I mean, and anyone who dares make a moral equivalency between the conduct and the behavior of the IDF.
and Israel, which is a moral superiority, what the Western media tries to do is they try to make it some sort of equal playing field in the conversation.
That Hamas and the IDF, they're somehow both on the same playing field.
No, no, no.
The IDF is righteously and correctly defending the nation-state of Israel, God's chosen people in the Holy Land.
I love that in general, I think everybody would fire Charlie Kirk for what Charlie Kirk has said about Charlie Kirk after Charlie Kirk's assassination.
No, everybody is reacting in the worst possible way to this situation, from the corporations doing everything stupidly to the right-wingers making this the most exploitable thing that they've ever done to everybody who's like, oh, we shouldn't be this or we should do that.
What Owen is describing here is motivated reasoning and the process that he went down to build the case that he wants to make.
There's a faction of the far right that wants to say that Israel killed Kirk because Kirk's death is a deeply traumatic event for a large group of people and that energy can be exploited.
In order to pull off that kind of a theory, you need to come up with an explanation for the whole problem that Kirk is super pro-Israel.
So Owen plays around the idea that Israel was the first to know about the murder.
Then there's some cherry-picked quotes that are taken out of context to make it appear that he was turning on Israel recently.
Add in a little bit of anonymous gossip that Kirk and Netanyahu had a fight, which is corroborated by making something up about Charlie turning down an invitation to come to Israel.
All right, let me just kind of get this picture real quick in my head before I go back to the other shot.
It's still so hard to tell because I don't know.
It's so hard to tell.
Because it actually now, well, no, that can't be it.
That can't be it because it's a longer window if it's a window.
Yeah, that one's a little tricky.
that one's a little tricky trying to determine where it came from actually well we're not trying to solve the crime here tonight but my point is that's another anomaly that That's another video that is, I'd say, pretty important.
You know, like it should still have a performance aspect to it, even if it is like, hey, it appears that we're all just hanging out, having a good time, sitting around with your old buddy Owen.
I'd say that's the worst thing is that the left wing did it.
And either the FBI botched it so badly that they're trying to cover up some elements of the botch, or they just don't even know much.
It's just that incompetent.
So the story doesn't make any sense, but the conclusion might be right.
I'd say, all things considered, that's where I would lean.
All things considered, I'd say I'm maybe 60% that they have the conclusion right, even if the story they gave us to get there is complete bullshit, which obviously it is.
So the conclusion might be right, but the story to get there, complete bullshit.
So, how can you trust it?
But I would say that's the odds on.
And then, then let's just say, I'm not even going to land on a conclusion of who, but let's just say 40% someone else hired him, intelligence agency, whatever.
It was a professional job.
I'd say 40% professional job, 60% left-wing, left-wing terror attack, left-wing assassination.
But one thing that kind of, the one thing that kind of says hold not so fast is it just screams professional hit to me.
Single shot right after the transgender thing was mentioned, single shot, right to the jugular, guaranteed kill shot.
It just feels professional.
It just screams professional.
And from what we know about the suspect who's denying it, he was no professional.
Apparently, he didn't even know how to put a sight on a rifle.
And then the caliber of the bullet.
We don't have these answers.
So that's when you start to say, well, no, now it looks like a Patsy.
Like, one thing that you do notice when you watch enough of Alex is that he has an effortless ability to make up numbers and he makes it feel like it means something.
He has a knack for floating contradictory theories and just being like, let's juggle all this bullshit.
Well, actually, I guess let's go to this weirdness first, maybe, because we're going to kind of move off the assassination story for a second.
I mean, how, look at this.
It's just, it's just weird.
I don't know how else to describe it.
Here's Michael Maure.
Congrats to my good friend Robert Axon on his election as chair of the Utah GOP at University, excuse me, at Utah Valley University today with a terrific job with George Zinn.
With George Zinn.
This guy's really active on that campus and Republican Party politics.
Who's Michael Maurer?
The senior advisor of community outreach and intergovernment relations for Governor Spencer Cox of Utah, who Charlie had a bit of an issue with, by the way.
It's not that weird that this guy has a picture with George Zinn, who's the old man who was arrested at the Kirk shooting for saying that he'd done it.
And people in the immediate aftermath, there was misreporting that he was arrested for it.
I am so mad from time to time that whatever thing allows these people to do what it is they do is not within me because I feel like they all suck at it and I could fucking kill it.
These connections keep getting weirder and weirder.
So right at the end of this press conference where Cash Patel announces that they caught Charlie Kirk's killer, Tyler Robinson, Cash Patel ends it with Charlie Kirk, I'll see you in Valhalla.
If that's enough for Owen to start questioning if he's in a simulation, then he's just looking for any excuse to talk about how he's in a simulation, right?
Gone to my head, I wouldn't be confident whether the video he's playing is a sincere conspiracy theory or someone doing a parody of what dumb shit conspiracy theorists consider evidence.
In that case, Cash Patel said, see you in Valhalla in his press conference as a wink to this picture of the shooter who was once photographed with a picture of an island on his computer screen that has a resort on it called Valhalla.
So the picture on the shooter's computer screen is a Getty Images photo of the shore of a small island off the coast of New Zealand called Goat Island.
If the guy making this original video isn't just trolling people, then he's lying about the circumstances to make it seem more unlikely that this coincidence could possibly happen.
And even if it were, this is a desktop computer, and it's entirely possible that this was a picture that was licensed from Getty Images for like a screensaver package.
Even if you assume all of the information that's being presented to you is accurate, you still have to be a real dipshit to jump to simulation from this stuff.
I, I, okay, so as far as spy craft and such is concerned, you know, people recognize the codes, the dead drops, you know, the like hide the little sheet of paper under a rock specific kind of stuff.
I do not think I have ever heard anybody be like, oh, did you know they talk to each other through Getty images?
The thing about Alex is that, and I guess this is something that, again, Owen may not have learned, is that when Alex makes an implication, that's a third of the way through what Alex is going to say, which is he implies something happens, then he explicitly says this is why it happened, then he returns to the implication.
You have to explicitly say that the implication you said is true and then kind of walk it back.
But also, like, I think that if you're trying to present this as a position where you have like a fundamental problem with Israel's politics and you don't like Benjamin Netanyahu, why are you saying the hat?
And there's this huge propaganda movement to convince you that Jews and Israel are basically the same thing.
So that that way, when you say anything about Israel, they can just accuse you of being an anti-Semite, therefore discrediting your opinion, censoring you, debanking you, removing you from the Trump movement.
That's what they do.
But there is obviously a distinction.
And it's beyond just the obvious distinction that a Jewish person, whether in America, Israel, anywhere, a Jewish person is an independent person that can think whatever they want.
And from my experience, Jews are very diverse in their thoughts.
Some are very pro-Israel.
Some are very anti-Israel.
Some are very deep into their faith.
Some have completely abandoned their faith.
That's my experience.
So, no, they use this movement, this pro-Israel, whatever this thing is, this Netanyahu regime, the Zionist movement, they use Jews as cannon fodder, as like a public communications body shield.
So I do think that a lot of this is Owen's side's fault.
I think that there is so much conspiracy and so much bigotry, anti-Semitism that's built around the idea of dual loyalties and the idea that every Jewish person has the right of return to Israel so they can commit crimes anywhere and then flee back so they can never possibly be loyal to another country.
That is such a huge part of the cultural melding of Jewish and Israel.
And the fact that he can't really understand that or doesn't take that into consideration as a part of the world that he's marinated in for his entire career makes this a empty explanation.
And I think that it's good, I guess, that there is a message of like, hey, I don't mean Jewish when I'm trying to make this about Israel.
But the fundamental thing that they exist within is that the three-headed nature of an ethnicity, a religion, and a nation, which means that you can find somewhere for most people that they'll have something, you know, like, well, I'm a Christian, so, you know, yada yada, or racists, or just nationalists, or any number of those things.
You can find a way, and then when you blend all three together, it doesn't matter which you're using that's a code for the other two.
Like, you know, you know, Nick Fuentes has a lot of sort of just generalized bigotry towards Jewish people that can be covered as, I'm just a Christian.
And I think that that complexity of like where all of this conversation lives is something that Owen is incapable of dealing with because he needs to exploit it.
So earlier, I think I look back on a little bit earlier in this episode, and I feel like I didn't fully explain or deal with when Owen said that Netanyahu coming here is a disgrace.
And how people might be drawn towards hearing something like that and being like, yeah, I do think it's offensive that Netanyahu's coming here at this point.
And I think a lot of the reasons that people would have those feelings have to do with Gaza.
And you're going to leave that over there because we don't want it here.
But now it is here.
And it disgusts me.
And it breaks my heart.
So, but she makes an obvious statement.
It should even be radical.
Hey, you know, criticizing the Israel government or military or Netanyahu regime, you know, Jews are a different thing than that.
Oh, yeah, thank you.
That's obvious.
But okay, thank you for distinguishing.
That might be a problem.
And you can see why.
And you can see why.
She gets attacked.
She gets attacked.
And I can't understand why people would do this.
Just straight propaganda.
Here's a couple examples.
If you're a Jew and you don't understand that Judaism and Jewish culture is inexplicably tied to Israel, then you really don't understand anything about being Jewish.
Oh, so you just want her to own what the Netanyahu regime is doing.
You just want her to own what's going on in the Gaza Strip with you.
And you just want to throw her like a human body shield in front of you for PR.
So he's reading a tweet about how at the Emmys, the best supporting actress in a comedy series winner, Hannah Einbender, she ended her speech saying, quote, fuck ICE and free Palestine.
Later backstage, she said, quote, it's an issue that's really close to my heart for many reasons.
I feel like it's my obligation as a Jewish person to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel because our religion and our culture is such an important and long-standing institution that is really separate to the ethno-nationalist state.
That's a good save he just pulled out of his back pocket because he slipped on a banana peel on stage talking about good Jewish people to people in Jerusalem.
You know, what I love most about these last two clips is there is nothing I love more than a bigoted white dude really just telling other people how to relate to their own ethnicity and relationships and religion and everything because they can't know.
So in that clip that Owen plays, Netanyahu's standing in front of a chart that's titled, quote, most major tech companies have their largest RD centers outside the United States located in Israel.
Then there's a subheadline, quote, business expenditure on RD funded from abroad.
On this chart, the U.S. is the top by a wide margin, which reflects other countries investing in RD centers in the United States.
That is money that's coming into the United States.
What Owen's complaining about is exactly what he wants it to be.
What the title of this graph is saying is that other than the United States, Israel comes in second in terms of RD centers, and it's not close.
Owen has entirely misinterpreted the graph, what it says.
And even if it is true that the U.S. invests a lot of money in Israel, which we do, the source that he's using doesn't say this.
And he forgot to crop out the I-24 news Chiron at the bottom of the screen that says, quote, Netanyahu addresses Israel's economic isolation.
Yeah, and kind of a lack of understanding of a lot of stuff.
Because in my experience, generally speaking, if you have been giving several tens of hundreds of billions of dollars consistently over the past my entire lifetime, it's probably because you get something out of it more than it is them.
And then, you know, there's reciprocal investment on both countries' parts.
Like, I'm not sitting here saying that we don't have a lot of money that goes to Israel in many ways from, you know, whether it's public stuff or from private corporations.
All I'm saying is that the source that Owen's trying to use here says the opposite of what he's pretending it says, and he doesn't seem to realize it.
Everybody can sense that something is still not right.
Everybody can sense that there's something really dark and sinister hovering now over this administration.
Everybody can sense it.
Everybody can feel it.
Everybody knows it.
And believe this, a lot of the big MA accounts that you see out there that are pushing the pro-Trump, pro-MAGA stuff, pro-Republican stuff.
These are paid promotions.
These are just political commercials on social media now.
Behind the scenes, folks, they know.
They know.
But it's their job.
It's how they make their money.
It's how they make their living.
It's how they make their income.
But behind the scenes, they know.
They know.
And, you know, I guess I'll actually say this in closing.
Because I'm telling you, this pressure cooker with free speech, folks, they can't have it.
There's too much pressure.
There's too many conversations.
It's threatening the establishment too much.
I think something big is coming in response.
But it's funny because I watch, you can kind of see now.
And this is not to say somebody is better than the other.
This is just, I'm just telling you what's happening here.
And you can, and if you really pay attention, you can see it.
You have people in, let's say, the independent media, the new social media, okay, that do political commentary and everything else.
And you have people in that realm that are totally bought and paid for.
Totally bought and paid for.
And even you could even say in the larger political, in the larger political media body, you have people that are literally just bought and paid for.
Who knows what their politics are?
Their politics or whoever pays them the most.
And that's why there are different instances you can see of people being on the right and then people being on the left and then on the right and then on the left.
It just depends where they're working or who they're working for.
So there's a ton of these people out there that they just work for whoever pays them.
Their politics just land at whoever's paying their bills.
And I think if you're in Owen's position and you're talking like this, and you don't explicitly say, I'm not talking about my boss that I just had a really ugly breakup with.
And when I have when I have vanquished your bloodline, I will spark a fire with your bones, you have to recognize that the man thing in your world is crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the women.
And take that like it's true.
Like you're fucking cash patel and it makes sense to go, see and valhalla, Dick Watt.
I mean, I would find it really interesting if I thought for a moment that there was the possibility that we would see an egg hatch into an eagle, right?
But I don't see any possibility of that, especially after a little coughing fit here.