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#1077: September 11, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan get to enjoy watching Alex continue to try to profit from his friend's death, and discuss his unrealistic goal of getting the Supreme Court to save his business. Tickets now available for our December 18 show in Portland

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alex jones
12:46
d
dan friesen
40:20
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jordan holmes
17:54
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unidentified
Rattler, rattler, run alert, rental, run alert, rattler, not knowledge fight.
Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang me or the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
I need money.
alex jones
Andy and Panzer.
unidentified
Andy and Stop.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air later.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a thick friend Caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.com.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Well, I was going to have no bright spot.
jordan holmes
You're going to have no bright spot.
dan friesen
I was going to tell you that I have a dark spot.
unidentified
You have a dark spot.
dan friesen
I was going to point at you and say that it was me.
Yep.
And it was going to be because I ordered culvers again.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
And I got another concrete.
jordan holmes
Of course you did.
You had to.
dan friesen
I got the cinnamon toast crunch one.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
It's so good.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's also good.
dan friesen
Yeah, because here's what happens with cinnamon toast crunch.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The texture of the cereal retains.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's perfect.
It's perfect.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that stays even within the uh shake concrete thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the cinnamon on the outside becomes absorbed by the ice cream.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So now you've got like a horchata ice cream with a little texture.
It's just, it's great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I was gonna shame myself for that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But right before we started recording, we got a Z in the mailbag.
We got a little bit of a package, and I'd like to say thank you to Carl uh from uh Big Jom.
Jam.
J A L M. Uh Big Big Jam.
The L apparently uh I see on the side, L's for love.
jordan holmes
Oh, I get it.
dan friesen
They uh sent a lot of mini jams.
jordan holmes
Yes, they did.
dan friesen
And I'm very excited to try some of these.
There's one that's a um uh habanero apricot and uh what's the what's the strawberry one?
jordan holmes
Uh Thai strawberry, yeah.
That sounds delicious.
That sounds very, very good.
dan friesen
Yeah, so there are what, three, six, nine, twelve different jams here, and I I can't tell you how tickled my brain is.
It's I'm so thrilled to try some of these.
jordan holmes
There's so many cool flavors.
It's just great.
It's just great whenever somebody who's tinkering around makes some sh shit and then sends it to you.
Fantastic.
dan friesen
You almost feel like uh there's a there's a mad scientist y kind of vibe with a little berry cutting it, cutting it open, seeing what makes a rhubarb tick.
jordan holmes
It's it feels like somebody somewhere has a cauldron and there's trouble a brewing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Um so we also learned that Marion Barry is a berry.
That's exciting.
jordan holmes
That was exciting.
dan friesen
Um yeah, thank you, Carl.
Uh, I'm really excited to try these, and uh, I'm sure a lot of them are gonna be great, and the ones that aren't are great, and I just don't like them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I am a weird food guy.
jordan holmes
I I've I that's that's one of the great things about stuff like that, where it's like, you know what?
I'm sure this tastes great.
It has nothing to do with you.
This is all I just don't like this texture.
That's it.
You guys are great.
I'm I'm not well, we'll just not meet.
That's fine.
dan friesen
I assume that about a lot of foods.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Uh my bright spot is today.
As you're listening to this, if you are past 10 uh Pacific time, you are available to buy tickets to our live show.
dan friesen
I realized that on our last episode we mentioned that there was a second show.
We didn't say anything about when it was when tickets were available, if they were available, where to get them.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Uh we're dumb.
We're bad.
jordan holmes
We're not good at this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So they're available now.
jordan holmes
They are available now.
dan friesen
As of 10 Pacific time, yes.
AM.
jordan holmes
AM.
Uh, and uh, yeah, you can get them from the Aladdin Theater website.
dan friesen
There'll be a link in the uh description of this episode.
Uh, and folks can uh yeah.
jordan holmes
Same everything, no nothing's changed.
Everybody get a ticket.
dan friesen
Same everything except the date.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Thursday.
jordan holmes
Thursday, the 18th.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That'll be fun.
Um, and uh, I'm glad that we we uh decided to loop back and tell people how to uh wise part in this.
jordan holmes
Uh uh, you know, we like a good ambush show as much as the next guy, but maybe we should sell some tickets first.
dan friesen
It's more it's more that we were confusing people, I think.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Well, today Jordan Raven episode to go over.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We're gonna be talking a little bit about September eleventh, the day that we live in infamy, 2025.
Um Alex is uh, of course, uh a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And Charlie Kirk has just been murdered.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So we'll uh check in on how all these dynamics are playing out, but first let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Jack would like to shout out to Solitary Knight, an awesome LGBTQ positive Twitch and Facebook streamer who plays odd and uncommon and goofy video games.
Thank you so much, you're not policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
They ever make a goofy video game like the character goofy.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That would be a goofy one to try.
Um you were holding back a lap.
jordan holmes
I was holding back.
I was holding back.
dan friesen
Next Michael, you make my life dreamy creamy.
I love you so much, and hope we can rise above our enemies for years to come.
Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And hey Dan, I can't get in touch with Alex.
Could you check on Gene Hackman tonight?
It's urgent.
Thanks, God.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to my amazing wife Fenn.
Happy second anniversary.
Here's to many more years and adventures together with our little ham, roaming the world and listening to knowledge fight.
Love you always, Mani.
Thank you so much, you and Iowa Technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb bomb bom bump.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black action.
unidentified
He's a loser, little little kitty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Um today today's episode might be on uh on the shorter side of things.
Uh Alex took off uh on the eleventh.
He left uh he had he had business, though I've got we'll get to that.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Um but uh last we left off, Charlie Kirk had been shot and killed at a speaking event he was holding at the campus of Utah Valley University.
Alex had exploitatively aired the video of the shooting on a loop and had vowed to do his own college tour in Charlie's honor mere hours after it had come out that he had died.
unidentified
Beautiful.
dan friesen
No one had any information about the shooter at that point, but it was reported confidently that this was a leftist assassin from Antifa and that this shooting was part of the Podesta revolutionary plan that was crafted in 2020, but was put on the shelf for four years because Trump lost that election, so there was no need for revolution.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It was all a disgusting display, but nothing too surprising to see from Alex's show.
When we recorded our last episode, we didn't know anything about who the shooter could be either, and I tried to be pretty clear about how it was unwise to jump to any conclusions.
The person could easily have been someone motivated by left-leaning political ideology who hated Charlie, but Charlie had a lot of enemies on the far right as well.
Someone from that world could have killed him, or the killer could have even been apolitical in their motivation.
I push back on Alex's assertions that it was a leftist shooter, not because I know that to be incorrect, but because I know that Alex is making that accusation baselessly, and it's the the kind of response that he embodies does nobody any good and can only cause trouble.
Now that we're here and a little more information is known about the shooting, uh uh details are still a bit sketchy.
A twenty-two-year-old man named Tyler Robinson has been arrested for the shooting, having allegedly confessed to his dad, who then was involved in helping turn him into authorities.
It appears that Robinson's father was torn about what he should do once he figured out that his son was the one who had committed the murder, so he consulted with his church leader.
Should he turn in his son to face a possible death sentence or stay silent about his son's guilt in order to save his life?
It was a moral dilemma that the dad faced, and it turns out that the church does not have a no-snitching policy.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say, I feel like just by doing that, you have already decided which one you're gonna do.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think you're well I you know it's interesting because I do think if you were thrust into that situation, it might be good to seek counsel of some kind.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
But I think if you're going to talk to somebody like a priest, you're hoping that they'll take the responsibility off your shoulders.
jordan holmes
That would kind of be the idea.
dan friesen
I feel like you're begging someone else to look, I don't want to turn in my son.
Can you please do it?
jordan holmes
Yeah, especially if you're uh I mean, it's not like a confessional.
It's not like you're you're like, hey, we both agree no one nothing leaves this room kind of situation.
dan friesen
And I think even then, you know confessionals are still like we it we report murders.
jordan holmes
You can't you can't we don't absolve murders totally.
dan friesen
Unless the church has a no snitching policy.
jordan holmes
Which I mean, there are there are probably churches, but we don't know about them for obvious reasons.
dan friesen
No one's uh no one's snitching.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So law enforcement has identified Robinson and also released information about messages that he'd allegedly written on the bullet casings.
In the case of the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO with uh Luigi Mangioni, there were messages inscribed on the bullet saying delay, deny, and depose.
The meaning of these words were clear as they describe the strategy that insurance companies use to avoid having to pay for people's medical care.
Without endorsing anything that he did, these words being put on the bullets represents a coherent political message that could explain the killing.
In this case, the messages that were on the bullets were essentially shitposts, and they don't really point to any definite ideology.
One said, quote, hey, fascist catch, then arrows indicating upright, down, down, down.
This is uh, you know, there's an instinct to say that this is an indication of like some anti-fascist tendencies on the part of the shooter, but this is just a reference to the video game Helldivers 2.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The messages that were inscribed on the bullets don't point to a coherent motive, but point to a familiarity with being too online.
These uh were jokes that have an irony to them, and anybody taking them literally or at face value is not on the right track with this, and you know, it's it's you can't you can't um you can't look at this without sort of decoding it through online culture.
jordan holmes
Any time I have read anything about this, my first instinct was like none of the people writing about this should be allowed to write about this.
There is a culture that understands what is going on, and we are not part of that culture.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And the people trying to translate it to me are not part of that culture either, and they're not doing a good job.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And and far be it from me to say that I'm uh uh, you know, drenched in this culture.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't fully understand a whole lot of uh the uh the way too online irony that people engage in.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
But I see uh another language when it's being spoken.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
No, I mean, any time back in the past, and I'm talking about the past before before the Q and On.
Anytime something from 4chan leaked out, it was like, guys, don't get it, don't get near it.
You'll never understand.
This is not for you.
Just let it be in its space.
dan friesen
And now there's just a million different versions of that.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So while it doesn't indicate whether he was on the left or the right politically, this sends a clear message that the shooter is not a sincere communicator, and that he was likely a person who came of age surrounded by shitty internet irony.
As it stands, I still don't know enough to have strong feelings about the motive of the crime.
I think a lot of people want to jump to conclusions that he's a leftist or that he's a Nick Fuentes fan.
And while all of these things are possible, I don't see anything concrete about it as of the time that we're recording.
jordan holmes
I mean, to a certain extent, it's it's almost a I suppose I would I would say it's something new.
It's a shot from somewhere that we're not familiar with.
This isn't the left or the right.
This is a whole culture.
dan friesen
The only thing I would push back on that is that it's fully new.
I think we've seen a fair amount of the last years.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
I just mean, like, in terms of our paradigm of how to classify this, this is not this doesn't fit into what we would use twenty years ago.
Yeah, you know.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
This is n this is the of the now.
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a there's a shifting of like uh the the understanding of motivations that we need to we need to take into account.
jordan holmes
Political ideology is far more fractured.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex, you know, he uh left his show on uh on on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then came back and yelled a little bit over uh Harrison.
jordan holmes
What a great guy.
dan friesen
And then did his special report.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And now here on the 11th, uh Alex starts off the show and uh, you know, just pointing some fingers.
alex jones
Tomorrow's news.
Today, witnesses are now reporting.
Multiple witnesses are told police they've done interviews.
That they saw people come climb there and talk about one thing, and they did.
And the people asking the questions kept looking back at the roof.
Then they started celebrating.
This was organized.
There are people online in the town saying he's dead tomorrow.
This this is sick.
This is a real cult that believes it owns our children.
unidentified
It's all financed by the globalists.
alex jones
And we have hours of celebration on the internet under different hashtags will be giving you.
Hundreds and hundreds of people, mainly school teachers and lawyers and doctors saying, Good, now kill Trump.
unidentified
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill.
I got this shit.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi.
alex jones
He was a fucking Nazi.
And you know what kind of Nazi the best Nazi?
A dead one.
dan friesen
So Alex is pitching a story here that involves people debating Charlie Kirk being in on the murder, which seems wildly unlikely.
I'm not sure exactly what the selection process is for the guest debaters at these events, but if more than one of the people who got through uh in the time they had before the shooting were conspirators, that indicates really bad event management.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to have conspirators be involved in debating Kirk while the murderer gets his shot ready.
Kirk was gonna be sitting in the same spot arguing, regardless of who picked up the mic to debate him.
If what Alex is saying is correct and the people were constantly looking toward the roof where the shooter was, that would only hurt the conspiracy's chance of being successful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It feels like anyone who were actually planning something like this wouldn't plant people to debate Kirk because there's no upside and a bunch of risks.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm thrilled that Alex is upset about people posting distasteful stuff on social media, but it's just hard to take his angle on this seriously.
I thought free speech was back, and as far as the Constitution is concerned, there's nothing illegal about saying that you're glad someone's dead and that you hope someone else gets killed.
It might be unhealthy for public discourse to be at a point where that kind of thing is as normal as it is, but that's not the conversation Alex is having.
And if it were, then we might find some agreement that like it sucks that this is the way people act now.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you know, that's not his point.
jordan holmes
I mean, whatever happened to fuck your feelings.
You know, I'm tired, I'm tired.
I'm tired because I lived through the time where they got to yell about it from one side, and now I'm living through the time where they're trying to yell about it from the other side, and I didn't move.
No, I didn't go anywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's jarring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm sitting here.
dan friesen
And incidentally, Pete Heggseth, Trump's secretary of defense, or maybe war now, I'm not sure, has said that people will be fired if they have uh been found to have tweeted negative things about Kirk in the wake of his death.
And that's not just something that's happening at the Pentagon.
NPR reported on 33 cases of people who were fired because they posted something that was seen as celebrating Kirk's death on social media.
I don't see firing people for making these kinds of posts as some kind of horrible violation of free speech rights, but Alex definitely should.
He's always championed people who faced social consequences for doing something racist, and he's always been able to pretend that he's only doing that out of concern for the precedent that it would set about chilling free speech.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I only know who Count Dankula is because Alex had him on a bunch because he lost his job after posting a video of him teaching his dog to do a Nazi salute.
If Alex took any of the shit he said seriously, he would need to be defending these people who are getting fired for tweeting jokes about Kirk, and the fact that he's not should make it pretty clear that in the past he wasn't interested in defending free speech.
He just wanted to help create a world where racists don't have to fear any consequences for their racism.
This is cancel culture, right?
Oh, maybe not.
jordan holmes
Well, see, the thing is, what we wanted to do, now you thought, oh, we're worried about being canceling.
No, what we wanted to do was get all the way on the other side.
Yeah where we get to do the canceling.
That was the problem.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That was where we that's where it all went wrong.
Like I would say something like, uh, the F slur.
And then I would get in trouble.
But now I can hit people.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
It's great.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's uh it's just uh I mean, I mean, like, obviously, these are some things that were fairly obvious in Alex in the past.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Um, but if people can't see through it now, it's that that's on you.
Uh you you uh you can't see what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
It reminds me of something Douglas Adams said about the serious cybernetics corporation or something where it's like the the superficial design flaws are so frustrating they mask the fundamental design flaws, which was like that feels like what was going on.
We were so focused on the superficial shit.
We haven't we haven't been able to really process how fundamentally bullshit this has always been.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that we've had some indications and some like I'm pretty sure this is all total bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But now all of the principles are violated.
jordan holmes
It's gotta be.
dan friesen
Everything is bullshit.
jordan holmes
If you can't see it now, it's on you.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So um Alex obviously wants to make this about himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that's what he does.
alex jones
All right.
I have predicted every bit of this with total precision.
Because John Podesta wrote a battle plan for it.
If Trump won in 2020, they were able to steal it.
They announced they were implementing it on November 5th, last year.
The No Kings, the assassinations, the killings, the attacks on Catholic churches and churches.
I'm getting shills right now.
And of course, I got swatted last night.
But really, it just adds security to the house.
I'm friends with the deputies.
They sometimes come over and have a coffee.
They're they're at the house once a week, pretty much.
I got home about eight o'clock, saw one parked across the road, pulled in, pulled, pull up, they scan the lights.
Everything all right, Alex.
Yeah, everybody's inside.
Everything's good.
Yeah, do you get another fake call?
Yeah.
Have a good night.
We'll be around.
dan friesen
That's not a squatting.
And Alex seems very desperate to make himself the victim in someone else's murder.
It would be so funny if someone just directly demanded Alex produce the Podesta plan.
He talks about it like it's a very real and specific thing.
So it should be no problem for him to send a copy to the news or anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Podesta Battle Plan is a great prop for Alex, primarily because it's not real.
The Transition Integrity Project put out a 22-page paper on August 3rd, 2020, titled Preventing a Disrupted Presidential Election and Transition.
And Alex has just made up a bunch of fun bullshit about it.
jordan holmes
Well that's nice.
dan friesen
John Podesta was a participant in the scenario exercises that they ran, but he wasn't in charge of the group.
Alex is just labeled it the Podesta plan because the audience already knows Podesta from Pizzagate.
So it's easier just to say it's all him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If Alex said this was the Rosa Brooks plan or the Nils Gilman plan, it wouldn't evoke all the scary associations of child trafficking at Comet Ping Pong.
jordan holmes
Snooze.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who are those people?
Don't care.
dan friesen
Yeah, Podesta's a villain that's already been built.
jordan holmes
He's established.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I I I just I don't know.
jordan holmes
He was a dud.
I I do appreciate the the echoes of how stupid things can be that being from another bullshit conspiracy that didn't make any sense from the past just makes you like in in uh in uh uh voting reality show game where like if you get voted out on the first day, everybody's like, Well, we're voting you out again.
Like you're just socially it's okay for us to pick on you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
We've already got some baggage.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's like how Soros can be slotted into like literally every conspiracy because the audience has a dun feeling about discovering that he's behind something.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And uh yeah, it's a cheap trick.
jordan holmes
Soap opera shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And and the thing that's so great about this prop that Alex has that he can make it say anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Podesta plan involves shooting Charlie Kirk.
What the fuck are you talking about?
The transition integrity project uh lays this out.
What the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes
At what point while they're writing that are they going Maybe we shouldn't put this in paper?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
The the plan to assassinate a guy, maybe we should just we could keep the the oral history.
Let's just talk about this one.
dan friesen
Yeah, let's not press release this one.
jordan holmes
Maybe don't do that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So um I d I I really don't think that Alex got swatted.
But regardless, that making it about himself isn't quite enough.
So he's gotta he's gotta talk about how good of a shooter he is.
jordan holmes
Oh God.
alex jones
I've got to really hand it uh to uh don't do that.
Cue.
And I'm not talking about cue them.
Online thing.
I'm talking about um highly decorated army veteran friend of mine who's head up my security.
He called me out of country running a mission about thirty minutes before Trump officially announced that Kirk was dead, they wanted to talk to his family first.
He said no.
He was uh shot from the roof with a high-powered rifle, and uh Quentin is so smart, and I'll see if I can get him on.
Um he said he came on yesterday when I called back, he didn't answer because he was in operations.
But uh he said go into a zone, he couldn't use his phone.
I'm not gonna say where he's at.
It's a 30 odd six, I can tell by the sound of the gun.
I mean, that's how good his ears are for what different gun different different rifles sound like.
He says, Ball tax and 30 odd six would be his guess, and that's what it is.
So and yeah, you want an accurate gun, that's that's a good good one right there.
Uh people saying that this would have to be a professional to shoot somebody at 200 yards in the neck.
Um you can train a 10-year-old with a 308 to shoot bullseye at 100 yards in an hour.
By the time I was 14, I could shoot at a hundred yards to the same hole over and over again with a three-power scope.
Now with the new stuff, I mean, I've shot mountain goats 800 yards, dead center in the throat when they pop their head up, and I'm not as good as some of these military shooters, though I go out and shoot with them.
I'm about average for special operations type people, you know, in in the grade of my shooting.
But the point is, my daughters are basically as good a shot as I am.
I get it.
dan friesen
I get it.
You're good, you're good at shooting.
unidentified
Cool.
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
That makes you a cool and cool person.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Super cool.
dan friesen
I think um I think this point is fully illustrated by saying uh it's not that impressive of a shot.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You don't have to talk about how you're about as good as all the best marksmen in special operations, and also you've trained your daughter.
jordan holmes
Well, the only reason why is that you know, Q talks to me is because we're both so good at shooting.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like I know he's active duty and he's in the no phone zone fighting.
dan friesen
No phone zone.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
But uh, you know, I'm just an amateur, the greatest there ever was.
So no big deal.
dan friesen
Some people like legit are just born with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And what are you gonna do?
jordan holmes
And to be clear, I'm a better shooter than this assassin.
dan friesen
And also I'm better than my daughter.
jordan holmes
And also I'm more important than Charlie Kirk.
Jesus Christ.
What a piece of shit.
dan friesen
Total piece of shit.
Shocking outrageous piece of shit.
jordan holmes
I was I was like, what's it what's an exaggerated thing I could say to who's like, no, he probably thinks that too.
I bet I bet he 100% would say right now.
Well, Charlie Kirk didn't mean anything.
dan friesen
How can I disgust this guy and not be super disrespectful, but also be super disrespectful?
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Well, I'm a great shot.
I'm really I could have done that.
jordan holmes
I could have killed three of him.
You could have lined him up behind another one of him, and I still could have shot that guy.
dan friesen
That's how good I am.
Fucked up.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
So the shooting has all the earmarks of a staged event.
jordan holmes
A false flag.
dan friesen
Not really, no.
Just an elaborate conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
There are so many angles here.
There are all these witnesses on local news, and you can see it in the videos happening.
That people were chanting in the crowd, kill Charlie Kirk.
Kill Charlie Kirk.
And you can hear it in the audio.
There's lots of talking and yelling, and you're like, yeah, Charlie Kirk, yeah, kill.
And then this questioner gets up and says they're gonna bring up one topic.
They come up and say, This is what I want to talk about.
The he they bring him up and they go, I want to talk about trans shooters.
And then the witnesses report the people step back, and then a lot of people, the crowd start turning around and looking, going, look, look, and boom, right there.
Like it was a Shakespearean stage, this happens, and the witnesses are like, this was staged.
Because I mean, the word was out on the local liberal trans news, like he's dead tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Who's new tomorrow?
alex jones
It's over.
He's gonna dissolve tomorrow.
I have all the tweets, the post, all of it right here.
unidentified
And they're like, yay, yeah, great.
alex jones
They're trying back, great job.
People are like, hey, there's a guy on the roof.
dan friesen
I don't know what kind of trans news networks Alex is talking about, but if he was able to find all this chatter that illustrates pre-planning of the shooting, then two things have to be true.
One, we should be seeing tons and tons of arrests of people involved in the conspiracy by this point.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And two, Charlie Kirk's security team should have flagged this in advance.
Yep.
It's kind of it it almost becomes too obvious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex, as the big stand down conspiracy guy, maybe should be suspicious.
jordan holmes
Seems like uh what if what you're saying is true, then a bunch of people were openly planning an assassination.
And yet I mean, historically speaking, when a bunch of people openly plan an assassination, we have a lot of evidence from you know, their planning.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, say January 6th.
You think of a time whenever you would look into it and you might see text messages from person to person saying Sure, let's go overthrow the government.
dan friesen
Planning meetings, leadership uh hierarchies.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
All that stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So also, in order for any of this stuff to be true, then the person who is debating Kirk when he was shot has to be in on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Based on what Alex is saying, that is totally the case.
Because if not, if that's not what he's implying, there's no reason to say any of this stuff.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's just it necessary.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This person is a guy named Hunter Kozak who's since publicly discussed his experience.
I know that Alex could just casually accuse random people of being involved in murder plots and there aren't any consequences, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to stop pointing out how horrible and dangerous this behavior is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And sure, if people were chanting kill Charlie Kirk at his event, that's not good.
But it's also ridiculous to think that that would be connected to any actual murder planning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't mean to sound callous or anything, but in pro wrestling, there's a you know famous story that the rock he ended up turning heel because he was trying to play a good guy and the crowd hated him.
They would chant die Rocky Die when he came out, and the bosses realize that the audience wasn't connecting with The Rock as a hero, but they might respond to him as a villain.
Pro wrestling isn't about good uh conquering evil or evil uh conquering good, even it's about slotting people into good and evil characters to maximize the audience engagement and investment in them to tell quality stories and sell merch.
The media ecosystem that Charlie Kirk thrived in operates pretty similarly.
He's a good guy to the folks on his side, but he really only occupies that space because he's a villain to the other side.
His fans hate the left, and he basks in the negative attention that he gets from the left in order to play up the image that he's a villain to them, which makes him a hero to his side.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
What I'm saying is that if I were Charlie, I would love hearing Kill Charlie Kirk chanted at one of my rallies.
The fact that these people who his audience hates would hate Charlie so much validates the idea that he's an important hero for them, and without those optics, this whole brand falls apart pretty quick.
I mean, like, how much can you do a prove me wrong debate if the people who you want to yell at you don't show up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like it it it it requires this antagonism in order for it to exist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you have to be a character that people love to hate, on top of being a character that the hateful people love.
You know, that's part of the that's part of the combination.
dan friesen
And the people who are coming and chanting kill Charlie Kirk are I mean that I'm not saying that they like Charlie, but there is an element of it that they're like they want to engage as the voice that's chanting them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There it's not a love to hate, but it kinda is.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, there's and there's just a certain part of it, you know, when you say love to hate, it's not a pleasure to hate so much as it is like a a well, it's not a coincidence that Tucker Carlson's voice is also so fucking annoying that it gets inside your head.
Well, of course they like him more because you hate him more.
You know, the combination of the two.
dan friesen
Yeah, their political ideology is largely based on triggering the libs and making everyone mad, and like he's really good at making people mad.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
That's like someone chanting horrible shit is proof of concept.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So like I don't know.
I I just I think that there's something that is so wrong about the way that that has j that's just what their world is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's it's impossible to to think exist as a stable thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like you can yell horrible shit at a wrestling show because it's kayfabe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a fake world.
No one's actually gonna attack this person.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Um, but that kind of behavior, once it's in the real world, like, there's no kayfabe there.
Like, shit happens.
jordan holmes
Shit happens.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And uh that's not good.
jordan holmes
There are consequences in the real world.
That's why we invented the fake world, so we could keep that shit there and still have fun.
That's the whole idea.
Don't bring it into the real world of you idiots.
dan friesen
No.
I mean, it's effective.
That's why that's why wrestling is popular.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's cathartic and people really enjoy it.
jordan holmes
That's the idea.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it only really works when there's not human stakes attached to it.
jordan holmes
Bunch of dicks.
dan friesen
So uh I told you that Alex was gonna leave.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's because he has secret missions to go on.
jordan holmes
Law stuff.
alex jones
I wasn't gonna be here today because I have a multiple missions uh that are critical to the Republic.
Uh so I'm leaving a little bit later, I'll leave it at that.
But I will be doing work from the road, and I will be in multiple locations on the east and west coast in the next three days.
I'll just leave it at that.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Uh but uh things are coming to a head and it's been recognized by folks in the administration.
Um that we have the best analysis of what's going on and what's gonna happen next and how to counter them.
So I will be consulting uh with different organizations and groups uh in the next three days, so I will not be fishing uh when you don't see me here.
dan friesen
So Alex went to DC uh and he met with Ed Martin.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Martin was uh Trump's initial nominee for U.S. attorney for DC, but the Senate made it clear that they weren't going to approve this appointment.
So Trump withdrew Martin and appointed Fox News host Janine Pierrot.
jordan holmes
So this guy was crazier than Janine Pierre.
All right, so we're that's where our benchmark is.
dan friesen
It's gotta sting a little bit.
jordan holmes
That has got to stay.
dan friesen
Because you have to know that like there's no standards and you don't meet them.
jordan holmes
And you're still zero.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Martin landed on his feet and he took a role as the pardon attorney for the Department of Justice, spearheading what Alex likes to call the weaponization task force.
That's supposedly investigating DOJ weaponization against people who were too loyal to Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
I like I like the opposite of a retribution squad.
I'm I'm president of the pardon squad.
We're just gonna let everybody go.
dan friesen
Well no.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Because the pardon squad is about investigating Biden's pardon.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
dan friesen
So it's about removing pardons.
jordan holmes
It's once again a retribution squad.
dan friesen
Yes, yep.
Quite.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So uh what what's going on here is essentially that Alex is desperately trying to beg for the Supreme Court to overturn his and so he's going to lobby, basically, yeah to Ed Martin and whoever will listen to him in DC.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
I have no idea why he's going to the West Coast, though.
My gut was gonna be that like he's gonna go be on a podcast, but it feels like all the big podcasts he would be on are hosted by people who followed Rogan to Austin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it wouldn't need to go to the West Coast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
I have no idea, but um we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's looking at investors.
Maybe he's trying to find somebody to buy it.
Whoy, listen, I'm not going to the West Coast.
I don't know anybody on the West Coast who might buy it.
He's the one going, so maybe he knows.
There are rich people.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I think that anybody who's, you know, gonna be in the conversation to put up that kind of money to buy this, would recognize how dull an investment it is.
Anybody else could just start their own supplement labeling company.
jordan holmes
All right.
I've got a new plan.
Okay.
Now this is news that you don't keep up with.
But my friend Kawhi Leonard, all right, he was signed to the Clippers, and they just found out that he got a no show uh endorsement deal from just some random company for 25 million dollars outside of the pay package that he had from the Clippers.
But this company does it exist?
Probably not.
So it was used as a way to give him a bonus because the NBA has a hard salary cap.
Okay.
So this is all part of it.
dan friesen
So Alex is the bag man.
jordan holmes
Alex is going to exchange the money from a fake company set up by Steve Ballmer, owner of the Clippers, and this is how it's going to work.
That's how we pay Kawhi Leonard and own InfoWars and keep the Clippers uh as a medium level of organization.
dan friesen
And Charlie Kirk was on to this, and that's why you have to die.
jordan holmes
It all makes sense.
dan friesen
It almost makes too much sense.
So uh I I I will track this as time goes on, but I do think that it's worth noting that uh Chase comes in to fill in for Alex on the main show.
Chase doesn't even work there anymore, and he's still higher in the batting order than Harrison.
jordan holmes
Isn't he in Arkansas?
dan friesen
He came back.
unidentified
He came back after Owen left, he came back.
dan friesen
Well, I don't think he came back like on a permanent basis.
But I think he stepped in because Charlie Kirk died and Alex needed some backup.
unidentified
That's that Chase, Chase Chase, Chase.
dan friesen
Look, I uh hey, Brendan, uh, I gotta go talk to the Supreme Court.
jordan holmes
Everybody get out.
They pull me back in.
unidentified
Brad did I have to go uh you want to see a dead body?
dan friesen
I have to go uh lobby uh the highest court in the land uh to try to get away with uh slandering uh people's dead relatives.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Amazing.
dan friesen
So um he's he's uh back in the saddle a little bit, but I don't think it's a permanent thing.
Unless like Alex like incarcerates him somehow.
jordan holmes
I mean, just the more this happens, the more I feel like we're inching closer and closer to the weirdest possible future where Chase owns all of InfoWars because he's accidentally signed so many papers that they just default go back to him, and then he's he's like, Well, if I own it, I might as well do it, and he just becomes the new InfoWars by himself.
dan friesen
I mean, you know, the what you're discussing might not be a total accident.
jordan holmes
This could be Chase's Kaiser Sosa all of us?
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Are we getting Chaser Souzade?
dan friesen
It's possible.
He's positioned himself in a really unique, weird place.
jordan holmes
He's a really unique place.
dan friesen
Where his name is on the documents for the Alex Jones Network.
Their only sponsor is Bigley, and now he works for them.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, like, I don't know.
He's put himself in a place where Alex can't squeeze him out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, is this is this like a hostile takeover.
Is this a Michael J. Fox in the eighties movie where somehow at the end he's the top of the corporation?
This is what we're dealing with, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
unidentified
And if so, I mean, I suppose it could be it could be worse.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the left is gonna rise.
And they're going to uh take out cops, they're gonna take out everybody.
jordan holmes
Strongly doubt that.
dan friesen
Well, Alex is saying it's gonna happen, and Podesta warned us.
alex jones
And so they're gonna hit police.
When they hit, they're gonna hit the police.
They're gonna they're gonna hit.
Everybody.
I mean, I can tell you, I'm not in my house.
We're this is the point.
Out, gone.
Gone.
For the seeable future.
Bye-bye.
This is when I finally I've never left.
I'm about this this morning.
I'm like, We're out.
We're out.
So this is it.
They're gonna do it.
And now you know why Trump's trying to get you ready for the military and the rest of it.
Uh because Podesta said we put the compilation of articles up.
What?
They're gonna have the blue state secede in cities, they're gonna call it all racial.
They're gonna trigger a civil war.
That was four and a half, almost five years ago.
It was actually five years ago.
August of 2020.
And they said we're gonna do the plan again.
And I keep repeating that because there's the plan.
There's the plan.
I've literally had the White House, and I'll I'll be go, really, where's the Democrat plan for that?
I'm like, you you don't know.
Some do.
The Pentagon knows.
unidentified
The Pentagon.
alex jones
I know the FBI knows, but even at the White House, they're not taking it seriously enough.
dan friesen
Yeah, they they shouldn't.
So this would be a totally fine angle for any other right-wing radio host to have.
But with the career that Alex has had, he can't do shit like this.
No.
He's saying that the left is super scary and planning all these crimes and unrest, which Trump is gonna have to put down with the military.
Because Trump knows that this is right around the corner.
He's starting to use the military for domestic policing, so citizens get used to the idea of military police.
That's fun and all, but this is exactly what Alex has always said the globalists do.
I can't count the number of times he's used the analogy of a frog in a pot of water and how if the heat goes up gradually, you don't notice.
Humans have a normalcy bias.
These are the things that he talks about all the time.
Alex is describing Trump using psychological tricks uh that he's been very clear or tyrannical strategy to ease the population into slavery, and he's in favor of it.
Other talk show hosts could probably get away with pretending to be ignorant of these dynamics, but this is a cornerstone of Alex's worldview.
So you really have to be delusional to not get that he understands what he's Doing.
The difference is just that Alex supports this police state in the same way that he would support the police state in the 50s and 60s that tried to put down the civil rights movement.
When there's a world order that's trending towards liberalism, the state is the greatest evil imaginable.
But when the powers that be start prioritizing inequality, that calculation changes.
It can change because he was never against tyranny or state oppression to begin with.
He just wanted it not to threaten him and groups he feels like he's a part of.
Through his formative years, Alex's dad was a John Birch society idiot, so he was raised with a lot of those influences.
And then when he was becoming an adult, the militia movement of the nineties was in full swing.
Ruby Ridge and Waco happened, which solidified an impression that the state was targeting white Christian separatists, which was topped off by the OKC bombing.
A clear false flag meant to convince everyone that white Christian separatists were a legitimate threat.
And Alex has lived in that mode for his whole life.
Everything is in conversation with this feeling.
Bush did 9-11 in order to start a war and demonize foreign terrorists, but the end goal was really using the expanded powers they gained in order to fight those terrorists against white Christian separatists.
All of the false flag mass shootings that have been done to erode the second amendment, all of that is just an attack on white Christian separatists because they love their guns and might need them to overthrow the country at some point.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Everything that seemed important to Alex on a conceptual level really hasn't been important at all.
And it's plain to see all that stuff slipping away now.
Conspiracy and false flag accusations are a tool, and Alex's recent actions help illustrate how this is really all it's ever been.
The power structure is now clearly on the side of white Christian separatists.
So instead of using conspiracies and accusations of false flags to attack the power structure, Alex is using them to bolster the power structure.
Alex is saying that Trump is using federal troops uh as police in order to acclimate the population to the side of military on the streets.
And the justification is that he needs to do that because the left is planning all these horrible attacks that need to be stopped.
So from that, we can say that it's possible for an incoming threat to necessitate a president to use the military as domestic police.
An act that violates a fundamental part of the Constitution for Alex.
There is an example case where that is appropriate.
If that's true, then it's pretty simple to say that Bush should have been able to use military as police if he felt that terrorists posed a big enough imminent threat.
Obama should have been able to use the military as police if he thought that domestic extremists posed a big enough threat.
If it's possible that a potential future threat justifies despotism, then the only variable that matters is what the president considers a future threat.
And that can be an acceptable argument for someone to have.
I would expect that a lot of the right wing during Bush's presidency would argue that sometimes protecting against extreme threats requires curtailing rights.
jordan holmes
I recall them saying it explicitly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm not saying that you can't make that argument.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But Alex can't.
jordan holmes
Alex can't.
dan friesen
It is counter to the DNA of what he's built over the last 30 years.
And to see him saying that kind of shit is just like that's like me starting a supplement business.
It's fucking out of line.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you believe anything that you've ever said, then the moment you say, like, oh, Trump did this because of a threat he sees coming, then you have to then make the next step, which is, oh, well, Trump is the creator of this threat.
He's creating the threat in order to do that's your whole life.
dan friesen
That's literally how it's been since fucking Napoleon.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Everything in the world has always been this.
jordan holmes
I mean, you should even say, like, you your big thing is Quibono.
He's bringing a whoop benefit.
So of course he's the one creating the threat.
It's not the left.
It is Trump.
That's your definition of how things work.
dan friesen
Yeah, problem reaction solution.
That's the whole ideology is completely out the window when it uh is convenient.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's fucking garbage.
jordan holmes
It is so frustrating.
It is frustrating.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You just hear stuff like this, and it's just I feel for people who could possibly still listen to Alex and think he cares about anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, because the general idea behind belief systems is it's very helpful to kind of predict later on what somebody's going to do in given search situations.
You know, for the most part, belief systems are just social clubs.
They're just a place to Get around and to be with people and you say similar stuff to each other, so you create that bond, right?
But then you choose that belief system because when you need to do something about it, that's when you go, oh, I rely on the Bible.
I would do this blank thing, but I'm going to do what the Bible says.
That's my belief system.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right.
Whenever you realize that you were just they were just there.
The Bible had nothing to do with it.
You know, it was nothing.
Then it's like, oh, well, then what what am I supposed to believe ever?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
And and like when you make a belief system that's based around some kind of virtue and shit, it's like, okay, I'm great because I'm not killing someone right now.
jordan holmes
Right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But like, if I then am in a position where I can kill somebody, and maybe it's advantageous for me to do so.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I do it, then I never really believed the killing was wrong.
unidentified
No, you didn't.
dan friesen
I just wasn't in the position to kill.
jordan holmes
I didn't have to.
I didn't have the opportunity.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And that's the truth about Alex.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's just for for so many people, it has nothing to do with opportunity, but for some people, it is just like the only reason I'm not committing crimes right now is because they are not directly in front of me to commit.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
That's it.
dan friesen
I can't steal.
There's no store here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
I would, but there isn't.
dan friesen
But stealing is so wrong.
And I would never do it.
jordan holmes
So wrong.
dan friesen
So th look, the real issue though is the Dems.
They're so disrespectful.
unidentified
Obviously.
dan friesen
So disrespectful.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
alex jones
They mean business.
And then Newsom was in a podcast last night.
He said no, even though this happened, we need to just punch him in the face.
And Pocahontas said, Nope, I'm not going to call for Dow Mackart rhetoric.
And they wouldn't even be quiet for a moment of prayer in the Congress.
And just booed and yelled during it.
Got all that.
dan friesen
So on the day of the shooting, Elizabeth Warren posted that she was praying for Charlie and said, quote, political violence has no place in our country.
It's never okay.
However, right wing dipshits like the hosts on Fox News immediately started running with the narrative that democratic rhetoric was to blame for the shooting because all the dems are so violent with their speech.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Because Fox was covering the news from this angle, it led a reporter to ask Warren about this position, and she said, quote, Oh, please, why don't you start with the president of the United States, right?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Fox News' spin on the story created an opportunity to trap Warren in a situation where no matter what she says, it plays into Fox's narrative.
If she responds like this, they can say that she refuses to take responsibility for the violent rhetoric of the left.
If she's conciliatory and says that both sides are heated, they can say that she admitted that the left is too violent.
This is a game.
And even when someone like Elizabeth Warren goes out of her way to be polite and respectful, it doesn't matter.
People are shitheads who are just gonna lie about you.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
As for the prayer uh in Congress thing, Alex is lying about that.
The House observed a moment of silence in Charlie's honor that was respected by even the evil Democrats.
After the moment of silence ended, Republican representative Lauren Boebert protested that, quote, silent prayers get silent results, and demanded that the house let a verbal prayer be said.
Saying an impromptu verbal prayer isn't allowed by house rules, so she was essentially asking for special privileges.
And you know, that's what caused the problem.
She was demanding things that they can't allow her to do.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen.
Sometimes you just need a divorce.
You know?
Sometimes you just need a divorce.
dan friesen
So someone yelled, quote, what about the kids in Colorado, in reference to the Evergreen High School shooting that also had happened that day.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Naturally, this was a bit humiliating for Boebert since he represents Colorado in the house.
So fellow Republican and former turning point USA employee Anna Paulina Luna came to her defense saying, quote, You all caused this.
Order broke down a little bit, and Speaker Mike Johnson struggled to get the house back on track, despite doing a lot of shushing and gavel work.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Uh but finally they did uh come back into the center.
This is like the Fox News coverage with Elizabeth Warren, a trap.
Lauren Boebert is a US representative, so she should know the rules and be aware that she can't just say a verbal prayer on the House floor whenever she wants.
But by making that demand and having the other members of the house grumble and shoot her down, the story is no longer that Bo Bird made an inappropriate request.
It's that the Democrats yelled over Charlie Kirk's moment of silence.
That isn't true.
And no matter how anyone reacted in this situation, the babies get their way.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Um, and it's important to understand how much of their strategy is based on that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That like they are trap builders.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's important to remember that the the guy who got his ass beat by a cane in Congress was uh really not a fan of slavery.
And the guy who beat his ass, huge fan of slavery.
dan friesen
I was watching the video of this whole thing go down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you know, like I had heard about it from like Alex and seen maybe a tweet or two or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the sense that I got was that this all happened during the moment of silence.
And I was shocked to go watch it and see the moment of silence end, and then all of this happen.
But even leaving that aside, yeah.
I was just like, man, Bike Johnson is not commanding respect.
And I was like, what happens if they just don't shut up?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, what happens?
jordan holmes
Nobody's gonna stop him.
dan friesen
Can't bring the house into order.
jordan holmes
I mean, eventually, I guess they're gonna call in the national fucking guard.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
They're right there.
dan friesen
It's it it was crazy because it felt like, well, I don't know what you're gonna do other than tackle somebody.
Like, this doesn't seem like anybody is really it doesn't feel like lead.
jordan holmes
No, you know, I mean, I don't know.
Fucking Palpatine dissolved the Senate, who fucking knows what's going on now?
Lord knows what could happen, right?
Shit's crazy.
unidentified
Do you think Lauren Boebert is Jar Jar?
jordan holmes
Is she the one who's gonna usher in uh a never-ending uh Dark Side Empire?
Probably.
So yeah, I think that means it's uh she's Jar Jar.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So um Alex uh is obviously distraught about losing a friend.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's why he's continuing to talk about how he's going to just uh steal his skin.
unidentified
Great.
alex jones
And I didn't announce this through bravado or to act tough.
I publicly said I don't do a ton of public speaking engagements because I know I can do more digitally, and I'm and uh his work was important, had to be done at the colleges, and I admired him for his courage and said that.
I said he's done that job, he's got that lane.
If he wasn't doing it, I'd be doing it.
They won't even let me on the colleges they riot so bad we tried.
But I I now have a responsibility, and so do all of you to peacefully speak at city councils, county commission, school boards, colleges.
I don't care if it's a hundred people or a thousand.
All of you have to go out and speak out on the street corners at church, everywhere, because this is an attempt at intimidation and to shut down our access to speech and a chilling effect.
So I'm getting all these calls.
When are you doing it?
Where are you going?
I've got to get it organized, I've got to talk to different groups to sponsor it.
People can reach out to me that do this.
I'll I will go with with turning point.
Um, and I'm gonna go out there and I'm not gonna wear a bulletproof vest.
I'm gonna I'm gonna do it a nationwide tour because that's what this is about.
It's not about sticking your head in the tiger's mouth just to act tough.
We don't have a choice.
And we have to be lead by example here.
Now, I'll tell you this.
If I walk out somewhere and there's 3,000 people, and the police haven't stuck people on the roofs, you know there's a stand down by their managers that told them not to.
And if I walk out and I see nobody on the roofs, well, you know, then I'm gonna come out and point that out and be looking for it.
And I'll be like, there's a shooter, there's a shooter.
All right, it was a setup.
Seriously.
That's what it's because I'll be waiting.
I'll be watching when I'm speaking.
Oh, there's the shooter right there.
All right, get yourself a good shot there, big man.
Now's the time.
I'm gonna come out the Bat Cave into the third dimension.
I come out when they got lockdowns going.
They're shutting down the parks and the bridges and the restaurants that come out when I'm a January 6th trying to stop people going to the building.
I come out when I'm needed at key points, and I'm coming out of the cave.
dan friesen
You can kind of see the scripting of what Alex wants to do here.
He's making it a little too obvious that he wants to go out and pretend that someone is trying to shoot at him.
And it feels like it's mostly rooted in him being jealous of the attention that Kirk is getting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
This is still less than 24 hours after Kirk got shot, and Alex is already making himself the hero of the story and imagining getting Kirk's old company to fund his college tour.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is disgusting stuff just on a human level.
jordan holmes
I mean, one of the simple things to to recognize about saying something like, um, I'll go Do this thing uh because I'm better than him and I won't get shot implies that um it's his fault.
You know, it implies that if Charlie Kirk weren't Charlie Kirk and we're instead Alex Jones, somehow this never would have happened.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, certainly they weren't watching the rooftops.
jordan holmes
Right.
Just by virtue of the greatness of Alex Jones.
If you insert him into any natural disaster, it will not have occurred because he's so great.
dan friesen
Yeah, if Trump were president, no wars would have ever started.
And if Alex were running everything, there would be never any security lapses of no one would ever throw coffee on him or anything.
jordan holmes
But this, of course, he doesn't care.
Uh requires him to also say that other people deserve what they get because they are not as great as me.
dan friesen
Eh, that's a side implication, maybe.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So when Alex is talking about the times that he comes out of the cave, he wants the image to be that when shit gets serious, he takes to the streets.
But the reality is a little bit different.
When easy attention is available, Alex is willing to leave the studio.
That's all this is.
When the COVID restrictions are starting, Alex could make a video being a huge rebel by going to Barton Swing uh Springs for a swim.
He could pretend to be a revolutionary by yelling at an underpaid employee somewhere who was wearing a mask.
It was an attention and publicity feeding frenzy because people were scared and desperate for anyone who is projecting confidence.
When Alex gets more engaged with the world outside his studio, it's either because he's desperate or because he sees a huge opportunity to put in minimal effort and gain big amounts of attention.
Right now, it's probably both.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And um, yeah, who cares if you're exploiting your dead friend to do it.
jordan holmes
Man.
I mean at least he really didn't care.
Slash didn't like Charlie Kirk, right?
Isn't that what we're all happy about?
At least Alex isn't actually grieving the loss of a friend.
Yeah, because he didn't like that person.
dan friesen
I I guess I guess it would really throw me for a loop if he was distraught.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be at least this comports with my image of who I think this shithead is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is so strange.
It is so strange because I understand why people think the way they do.
I understand why they do the things that they do, but I don't understand how you could fire somebody for being like, hey man, this guy sucks, and not also understand that Alex is saying far worse things about him through what he's saying.
You know what I mean?
Like, I understand it's not explicitly Charlie Kirk sucks, but the around this.
dan friesen
Yeah, I I think that there's a you know, I there's a debatable uh like better or worse hierarchy to I think it's great he's dead and I'm gonna profit off his death.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
dan friesen
Those two are both horrible things to say about someone after they die.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that they're great, right?
Yeah, but I'm saying if I'm looking at the two of them, I'm going one of those is a person getting out some stuff, and the other one is a person who's going to destroy human society.
dan friesen
I think I would rather somebody dance on my grave than monetize my grave.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think.
Although I don't know if I mean you'd be dead.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But just in theory, I think that dancing on it would be less distasteful.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, what the dance ends.
Who knows when the monetization ends?
It's a business.
It's not supposed to end.
It's supposed to go on forever.
dan friesen
And dancing is like a fun process.
Maybe you get something out of it.
You know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Or at least, you know.
dan friesen
It's not a capitalist enterprise.
jordan holmes
And I get to fight back.
Now your shoes are muddy.
Maybe you need new shoes.
See?
We all lose.
dan friesen
Maybe you need a new shirt.
Alex might have one for you.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Not like I'm reclusive.
I just can digitally sit here and reach so many people.
On 400 plus radio stations, hundreds of TV and cable stations, massive viewers on Rumble.
InfoWars.com forward slash show, exit relog shows.
I'm strategically.
You know, as a general in this fight, and I've been parading around right at the front line.
I'm in a forward bunker up at the front line.
But now this is the time to be George Washington and land on Providence and get out there.
In fact, I'm excited to do it.
Now's the time to exercise our freedom.
Now's the time to show courage in the face of intimidation.
Now's the time to let these bullies know we're all Charlie Kirk now.
jordan holmes
Oh god.
alex jones
I want to put a t-shirt out.
It's like a no black shirt.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Red, white, and blue.
Come like the info and blue shirt that Rob's wearing.
I haven't seen that shirt.
unidentified
That's badass.
alex jones
It's the best shirt I've seen.
Rob, come in here if you can't stand for the camera, people can see the shirt.
I want one that says we are all Charlie Kirk now.
And I want to I want everybody put it out.
Put out your own.
dan friesen
You might notice that Alex definitely isn't going to put out a Charlie Kirk memorial t-shirt and give the proceeds to Kirk's family.
It's a nice thought to want to honor his memory, but Alex is also going to be sure he makes a buck off it.
I know I say this a lot, make a big point of this, but this guy's a fucking piece of shit.
He's his supposed friend died less than a day ago.
And he's brainstorming on camera ways that it can be profitable for him.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This is disgusting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is it is so perfect and encapsulation.
The juxtaposition of somebody getting fired from fucking CNBC for saying something mild like maybe we shouldn't yell, let's go kill each other all fucking day.
dan friesen
Violent begets violence.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But you know what?
They would have they would have been fine with this.
They would have been fine with this because it's about making money.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
This is about hurting anybody's feelings.
This isn't about being mean.
This sure.
We suck the bones of him dry and let his family starve to death.
Yeah.
But this is about making money, boy.
dan friesen
Well, I think the essential piece of this is that Alex is like.
Charlie was a fucking shithead opportunist sales guy.
He made a lot of money.
His family's fine.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I can try and get a piece of this uh wet my beak here.
jordan holmes
No better way to honor his memory than to steal from his memory.
dan friesen
It's fucked up.
jordan holmes
It is the circle of life.
dan friesen
I I see this and I'm just like, I I feel like this level of not treating each other like people.
Yeah.
I'm glad that I don't I don't feel like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I I dread the idea of running into someone who does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, it is it is interesting to think that maybe this whole conservative ecosphere is congealed around the only people who could possibly behave the way that they do.
dan friesen
It could be self-selecting in a way.
Like it's just you're just the people who can act like this, and it's an unfortunately profitable way to act.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
In the same way that, you know, being a con person was profitable.
That's why people did it.
jordan holmes
They did it all the time.
It was free.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So uh turns out there was some advanced warning, advanced knowledge.
Uh, you know, we heard about the trans news networks.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right, right, right.
Local news is dying, but I'm glad the trans news locally is still strong.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex touches on some advanced notice stuff.
alex jones
I want to get to Trump's statement here, but but I want to show you something first, okay.
Now, Grok confirmed this.
I went and looked it up and confirmed it.
I saw this uh last night, and I wanted to wait and check.
And a whole bunch of corporate publications, a full day before Charlie was shot, put out articles saying Charlie Kirk was shot and killed.
But just the headline.
Ah.
dan friesen
So if I were Alex, I'd be fucking embarrassed by this.
For one thing, he said that Grok had confirmed this news, which is really, really sad.
But more importantly, we do this every time there's a tragedy that Alex can exploit.
There's always some time stamp that mysteriously shows someone reporting on a thing before it happened.
Some idiot will post something like this on social media every time something happens, and Alex will report it as fact each time, and he's always wrong.
AI bots were wrong about so much in the wake of the shooting, and Grok was even telling people that the video of Kirk being shot was fake and that he was okay for a while.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Those tools aren't meant to determine truth.
They just scrape information from places that the person running them tells them to get it from.
If Elon Musk is feeding his robot all the dumb shit people post on Twitter and who knows what other disreputable message boards, it's going to just regurgitate that information.
It's not confirmatory.
It doesn't have that value.
And the fact that Alex is saying Grok confirmed this, it just shows how much he's given up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think I think a lot of these people have the conception of AI in a in a like more imagery framework, right?
So they view the internet.
Imagine the internet is a big landscape, right?
Then you have the AI, which is like a person, like a concierge.
But what it really is is just all of the internet squished into a square, and you're trying to find the even smaller part from the square, and that doesn't help you.
It doesn't help you at all.
It's just a square.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it it's like um i it's like uh making a search engine uh talk to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like it it's making it conversational because you don't want to read multiple things.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And great.
That's that you found a shortcut for that, but it's inconsistent, and you're gonna get bad results.
The irony is that Alex's view of what this stuff is just b it's the same as the AI con people who are are trying to treat it like it's a god of some sort.
He thinks it's an oracle.
jordan holmes
The same thing happened at the very dawn of search engines, whenever you would have like ask Jeeves, and it would be like here, just ask it a question.
That's what you do.
dan friesen
And and that was even personified.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's the same it's the same shit.
And um, yeah, so I I guess most of this is about there was a AI created, I think, book uh about Charlie's assassination.
Probably someone just put in a prompt and it spit out a book.
Oh, and it was on Amazon, and they had the release date wrong.
And so it had said that it was released on the ninth, but it was it was released on the tenth.
jordan holmes
So an AI generated shit book was then picked up with a poor date by another AI generated shit poster to then do the thing, and then that turned into a circle jerk of AI bots releasing all this shit.
dan friesen
That's my understanding of what happened.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We should really not be doing any of this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's usually oftentimes what happens is that there'll be like a Facebook group or something like that that uh has uh it predates the event.
Right, but it had changed its name or something like that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It was a pre-existing group, and someone trolled people with that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But this is this appears to be some sort of just weird glitch thing.
jordan holmes
Oh man.
dan friesen
Anyway, uh Trump has announced that he is going to honor Charlie Kirk's memory.
Okay, unlike Alex, who is exploiting.
alex jones
This is just now breaking, President Trump announces he is awarding Charlie Kirk a posthumous presidential medal of freedom.
We're all Charlie Kirk now.
This is gonna backfire, but they're going for it.
dan friesen
Good luck selling that shirt.
So I feel like I could be a dick about this and say that Kirk shouldn't get this medal, but honestly, who cares?
Here's a list of some of the people that Obama gave one of those things to.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Lauren Michaels, Michael Jordan, Tom Hanks, George H.W. Bush, and Gloria Estefan.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
It's a nice honor for people to be given, and you know, there's a lot of very deserving people who have been important figures.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But it's also kind of a way for presidents to hang out with their favorite celebrities.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And in his first term, Trump seemed to maybe give it to a disproportionate number of golfers.
jordan holmes
Huh.
Um, you know, weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
It's just kind of Did they play around to golf together?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Strange.
dan friesen
It's just kind of a thing.
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't I think that there are other uh medals and stuff that would be far more distasteful for someone to get this is just kind of like eh, who cares?
jordan holmes
No, it uh you know, it all makes sense.
And then you but if you look at metals as a whole throughout time when governments give them not good, not good.
dan friesen
I mean, I I you know, I was scrolling through the list of recipients, and uh, you know, like General Wesley Clark got one back in the uh the Clinton administration.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that it might cheapen his feelings about it uh for someone like Charlie Kirk to get one, but I don't care.
It's not that big a deal how Wesley Clark feels about his medals.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't I don't I understand that it's like here's the difference, right?
It's a medal, and I get that you have a little thing right there, and I get that it goes on a list there.
dan friesen
Wait, wait, wait.
You're imagining it's like a little thing you've pinned to your motion that you made.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But I was I was just you know, whatever.
Uh you get the thing, but to me it's identical to just getting a regular picture with the president, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean it's a little bit of it's a special meet and greet, but like, yeah, sure.
You know, it's exclusive company in a way, but uh you know I don't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't care either.
dan friesen
So um Alex is off on his missions, and uh he talks about how he thinks that shit's gonna work out.
I bet it is the Supreme Court's gonna come in and help him.
alex jones
I I just want Lush to remember something.
I didn't even talk about our case being in the Supreme Court, maybe being all over the news yesterday.
Because this Russia escalation with the drones looks like a false flag was so big, and then this happened.
But even mainstream media goes, wow, Jones was found guilty by judges.
Looks like it was it wasn't fair.
Oh my God.
Looks like the Supreme Court's gonna take it.
Didn't even get to that.
Because we're busy covering the other big issues for everybody else out there.
But remember, we need your prayers, we need your support, and we need you to financially go to the Alexore.com because I am again right on the edge of the red.
I've got seven lawyers, top ones suing the hell out of the Democrats, the law firms, deposing them, finding all the stuff they did.
It's been referred to the Just Department.
Just Department is investigating it.
I can tell you that.
And I'm gonna stop right there, but that's what I'm gonna be gone the next few days.
It's part of my mission I'm on.
But I'll be on air, you know, popping in.
The point is is I got swatted last night.
I don't make a big deal about it.
It's happened so many times, they just come by, make sure everything's okay.
But I'm obviously a target just like Kurt.
Just to understand, we're doing this because not because we hate the globalists, but because we love America and our families.
We don't fight because we hate the enemy, we fight because we love what we're defending.
That said, this isn't a game.
You've heard me predict, they're gearing up for the pedestal plan to launch massive unrest and political assassinations.
Next they're gonna hit their own people in the false flag.
dan friesen
Oh, so you're fine then.
If next is uh they're gonna false flag their own people, then Alex is safe.
jordan holmes
So now now wait, why?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Well, because I guess it wouldn't be believable to uh, you know, do two false flags in the same direction.
You kind of got to ping pong back and forth.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, right.
jordan holmes
Boy, that sounds that sounds like a risky line of work.
dan friesen
Well, let me let me just explain.
Alex is probably convinced that there's going to be some retaliatory violence against the left.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
dan friesen
And he's preemptively trying to explain it within his framework of this stupid pedestriplant garbage.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Um, and he wants your money.
Um the Supreme Court already declined to take this case like six months ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know what other like I don't know if you can just keep badgering the Supreme Court.
Can you keep asking them to hear a case?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I guess maybe.
Um, but yeah, Alex thinks that he's going to be able to reignite this flame and going to DC to talk to Ed Martin.
He's a big part of trying to sell that.
And failing that, Ed Martin is somebody who's willing to talk to Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex did post a photo on Twitter of him with Ed Martin.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, like, this gives the air of legitimacy to his like, we're I'm still in a fight.
jordan holmes
I'm not giving I'm not giving up.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's as close as he's gonna get to like actually hanging out with Trump.
So, like I I kind of get the strategic move.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I don't think the Supreme Court's going to decide to hear this, but boy, you're making it look like you're trying.
jordan holmes
Really, really are.
I mean, and you never know.
Maybe the Supreme Court goes on an ayahuasca retreat and they go, wouldn't it be hilarious if and that's what happens.
dan friesen
I have no faith in uh the Supreme Court, or at least greatly diminished, sure.
Um, but just based on the fact that they've already declined to hear this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It makes me think like what could have changed since six months ago.
No, nothing.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Um if it wasn't a first amendment issue, then it's not now.
Right.
And uh I I it's much as cynical as I can be about these courts.
Yeah, I still think just the fact that they didn't hear it before means this probably not traction now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, we're we're that this is this would be the level of a Supreme Court justice meeting going, well, let's just burn it all down then.
You know, like the whole law, let's just no, it's whatever I fucking feel like on whatever day we're talking.
Yeah, that's where we're at in terms of if they take this case.
dan friesen
Gorsich is passing the blunt from squeeze.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
He's like, man, wouldn't it be funny if we just it would have to be that level of fucking let's just let's just go wacky with it, you know?
dan friesen
So we'll see what happens with uh all of this stuff.
Um uh chase uh filling in for a bit.
jordan holmes
So man, I hope next year he Is owner, sole owner and operator of InfoWars.
dan friesen
And why not just make an AI Alex Jones?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
He's already done it.
dan friesen
He has.
jordan holmes
He's already done it.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
He's already done it.
Just fucking downsize.
Lower your overhead.
dan friesen
Get rid of the expensive talent.
Keep the talent.
Absolutely.
Because it's completely replicatable by AI.
jordan holmes
It's identical.
But you could not recreate a person, but an AI could be Alex Jones in a heartbeat.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
God, that would be so fucking funny.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If Alex is like the biggest example of someone who AI takes their job.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
If he ends up like a drunk uh just on the street in Austin yelling about how the globalists and Chase took his job.
jordan holmes
It would be I don't know.
I think we would have to make a monument to it.
We would have to build a monument to the time Alex got replaced by AI.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It would be a it would be And you and I would have then witnessed an amazing story.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If that ends up happening.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
God, I hope that happens.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll check in, see uh if there's any progress on that front.
But uh until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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