In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to watch Alex Jones defend Trump taking over DC and try his best to pretend that it's totally not a police state move, while he also advocates for the military taking over the civilian government.
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Knowledge fight Dan and Jordan, I am sweating Knowledge fight dot com, it's time to pray I have great respect for knowledge fight Knowledge fight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys Knowledge fight Dan and Jordan Knowledge fight Need money Andy and Pamphy Andy and | |
| Pamphy Stop it Andy and Pamphy Andy and Kansas Andy It's time to pray Andy and Kansas you're on the air Thanks for holding us So Alex, I'm the first Tim Collins to be here today and I love your work Knowledge Fight Not knowledgefight dot com I love you Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple of guys like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little about Alex Joe Oh, indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan, I have a quick question for you Uh huh? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| Uh my bright spot is Uh oh, tell you what my bright bright spot is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was playing some tennis. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And my racket broke. | ||
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Nice. | |
| You hit it too hard. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It was bad. | ||
| It just one of the strings broke. | ||
| But here's what the bright spot about that is. | ||
| I was playing like dog shit. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I was absolute garbage. | ||
| And then the string broke and it was like, ah, no wonder I was playing so poorly. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were going to say that it gave you an excuse to stop playing because you were so bad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The racket's broken, can't play more. | ||
| No, we got a replacement racket that worked. | ||
| I started playing a lot better. | ||
| Because it worked. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I can, you know, you can just restring it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't have to be like, I feel bad for being a bad player. | ||
| You're not bad for being a bad person? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Your bright spot is having an excuse. | ||
| My bright spot is having something to fix that isn't my own self esteem. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| See, I go the entirely opposite direction with this. | ||
| If I'm ever playing a sport and the equipment breaks, yeah. | ||
| It's because I'm too good. | ||
| I hit it too hard. | ||
| Too hard? | ||
| I just the angle was too right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I just, I broke it. | ||
| See, the problem there is that it's very easy to access people who can hit the ball significantly harder than me. | ||
| Right, but not exactly right. | ||
| Ah, that's fair. | ||
| It's like the one inch punch kind of thing. | ||
| You know, you have to Is that it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, your swing was Look, anyone could break a backboard with a slam dump. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| In theory. | ||
| Is this like a million monkeys with a million typewriters could break a backboard situation? | ||
| I am now setting out to break a backboard to prove this thesis. | ||
| So I have to sabotage a backboard is what you're saying. | ||
| I would appreciate it if you did metal with a backboard before I tried to do it. | ||
| Right, okay, okay, good. | ||
| We'll not call it sabotage. | ||
| We'll call it rearranging. | ||
| I'm just saying that I think the glass half full version of this is that you were too good and that you broke a rack. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like having a glass full. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| So I, our friend, friend of the show and old buddy, Daniel Scharr, is doing his not new year Sex for Work one man show out in New York and East Hampton, Massachusetts nice. | ||
| in early September. | ||
| And I wanted to give a plug for that. | ||
| Tell people if they're in the area and they want tickets, they should go get them and go check out his fun one man show full of filth and heart. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's really, really good. | ||
| I highly recommend it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, people can find tickets to that at Danielshaar dot com SHAR. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So I'd recommend, if you want to have a nice time with something a little bit off, a little blue, but not that blue. | ||
| I mean, in a way, it's the type of blue that is like, yeah, you could say that a clinical picture of a naked body is blue, but it's to transform like sex into just an observational thing as opposed to being a turn on thing or something like that. | ||
| You know, like you're an adult, you've seen that shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Deal with it, we all watch it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So anyway, that's going on. | ||
| You should check it out. | ||
| Yeah, you should. | ||
| So today, Jordan, we have something less fun to check out. | ||
| That is an episode of Alex's show. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| We're going to be talking about August 11, 2025. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The day that Trump sent troops into DC. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Martial law. | ||
| One might think. | ||
| Well, hey, you know what looks like a duck? | ||
| It looks very martial law e. | ||
| Quacks like a duck, sure. | ||
| That shit is not a duck. | ||
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Eww. | |
| Anyway, we'll talk about Alex's response to this and how invalidating it is of everything that he's ever defended. | ||
| Everything he's ever defended. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wongs. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| So first, think globalist e, act low keyly. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wong. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, congratulations to Hailey and Joe on your engagement, and thank you for letting me be your maid of honor. | ||
| I love you both tons. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And these fucking serials are trying to be jacks of all trade, and it's just not working. | ||
| I'm not angry with the tiger. | ||
| We're going to re-broadcast, play one of the old Project Camelot episodes. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And we got a Technicrat in the big, so thank you so much too. | ||
| In episode twelve at the one hour fifty minute mark, Dan swears that if they, quote, get enough donations to this show where we can quit our jobs, I will legally change my name to Scatman Dan. | ||
| Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Sharp, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. | ||
| Jar Jar Binksh has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little, little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So that, I mean, look, this is, this is fair. | |
| This has been pointed out to me a number of times. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And here's my, here's my blanket response that I'm going to give next. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't fuck with the government. | ||
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I'm not going to legally change what I'm not going to fill out this, this paperwork. | |
| There's no law. | ||
| So I might want to try and make a compromise on this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like maybe get a Scat Dan tattoo or something like that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I don't want to go through the paperwork of legally changing my name. | ||
| But I do feel like no one was listening then. | ||
| I mean, it's good to be reminded that we have and had humble dreams. | ||
| Back then, no one was listening. | ||
| No. | ||
| There were like five listeners, maybe. | ||
| It was a comical idea that anyone would ever listen to this show. | ||
| And so I did make that kind of a declaration. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I feel like I should follow through in some way, but I'm not changing., I'm not changing my name. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Not doing paperwork. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Tattoo maybe? | ||
| Yeah, no, I mean, we can you can change your name in spirit at any point in time. | ||
| The problem is I don't know how to change your name legally. | ||
| Maybe I can get a new ID. | ||
| I could get a tattoo of the scatman or just his mustache. | ||
| I don't think you want a I could see the mustache works. | ||
| I don't think you want a mustache and his hat? | ||
| Like just a Yeah, yeah, a nice little silhouette kinda thing. | ||
| Yeah, I like that. | ||
| We'll workshop something, but yeah, consider this a dress. | ||
| You are the scatman. | ||
| Yes, you are the scatman. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Jordan, I wanted to do something little different today. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But we're not going to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What I wanted to do was I noticed that around this time, at the beginning of August, Yeah. | ||
| Alex made good on one of his threats, which was that he was going to start having more shows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was going to do more, he said, We're going to go 24 hours. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| He's not going 24 hours, but he's building up the roster of shows. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so there's a new show that he's doing called Good Morning Infowars. | ||
| You are joking. | ||
| But it's not him who's hosting it. | ||
| It's someone named like Brianna Morello. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Who I think did a book about how attractive Melania is. | ||
| I think she did like a picture book of give her a show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I watched it and I thought it was unviewable. | ||
| There was no, no Riz. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No juice, just nothing. | ||
| It was, it was an awful, awful, and it didn't even have like a you hear the you hear Good Morning Infowars. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a Saturday morning show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're expecting someone maybe sitting around drinking a cup of coffee. | ||
| Do a Good Morning America rip off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's not that. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's just someone staring into a webcam and talking about all the same stuff that they talk about on Infowars. | ||
| At the very least, get a cup of coffee and like a thing. | ||
| Like all morning. | ||
| shows suck, but they suck in the right way. | ||
| Everyone likes it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so comforting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're like, it's breezy out. | ||
| Oh, we've got Exactly. | ||
| Oh, we're going to have Kid Rock dropping by to give us a brisket recipe. | ||
| Of course you want. | ||
| There's no reason for you not to have Kid Rock give you a brisket recipe. | ||
| Yeah, so I was hoping we would cover that, but instead I'm just mentioning it and it's trash. | ||
| That would be, it would be so much more fun if you could force the square pegs into the round holes. | ||
| Like her and Alex doing like they're sitting on the director's chairs thing. | ||
| They're doing a whole thing. | ||
| But I say you even just don't involve Alex. | ||
| Just sure. | ||
| Just do this as you know how okay. | ||
| Okay, someone explained to me that one of the things that Marvel could do but is not doing as well as it could is just do genre. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, like have one of your characters, this is a mystery movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One of your characters, this is a shoot'em up movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, that you can fit those, like all these Marvel superheroes, Yeah. | ||
| into different types of films. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| George Lucas fit Space Guys into a Kurosawa film. | ||
| It'll be fine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But under the umbrella of Marvel, you could have every sort of movie. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Covered in different tendrils. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's what Infowars should do. | ||
| Like, this should be a Good Morning America, but just also just Infowarsy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to. | ||
| I just want to force one of these people to try and be Regis. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| Because there's been a gigantic Regis hole. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| We feel it in the ether sphere at all times. | ||
| And it's just like, what if the what if Regis was also fucking crazy? | ||
| You gotta watch. | ||
| Would you do James Woods? | ||
| Maybe get James Woods to be a Regis. | ||
| That would be fun on Infowars. | ||
| I don't know if he's animated enough. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That could be a problem. | ||
| You got to get someone with more in your face juice. | ||
| John Voight? | ||
| I'm just trying to think who they got. | ||
| Kevin Sorbell? | ||
| You're right, there's a very low ability to bring out a Regis. | ||
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| Yee. | ||
| So we start instead of covering that morning show, we're talking about the eleventh, August eleventh. | ||
| And look, Trump has decided that he's covering up the Epstein stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he, you know, bombed Iran and clearly is just a real piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But like, you got to kinda you got to like him. | |
| I know it's fashionable to say that Trump is totally screwing over America and gone back on his promises and that he is. | ||
| is a total puppet of Israel on and on and on. | ||
| And certainly I've had some legitimate criticism of some of the directions he's taken and I support everybody's right to free speech, but I gotta tell you, if you actually look at what he's doing domestically and geopolitically, it is spectacularly good for this country and he is really going to bat for not just the American people, but the people of the world. | ||
| If you listen to Alex's show, you start to notice that he keeps calling certain positions fashionable or avant garde. | ||
| You might think that he's talking about whatever's popular on Twitter that day, but if you pay attention, it's pretty much always in reference to the position that Nick Fuentes is putting out. | ||
| Whether it's the result he wanted to come about or not, Alex is in a situation where he's lost any real relevance in the media space where he used to be the king. | ||
| He used to be fashionable and avant garde, and now the next generation has made him irrelevant. | ||
| Nick is unburdened by the need to defend Trump. | ||
| He doesn't owe people a billion dollars for lying about them, and he's half Alex's age. | ||
| Nick is legitimately the biggest threat to Alex's entire not attacking Alex. | ||
| By putting on a friendly face, he's offering the audience an off ramp that provides an answer for all the cognitive dissonance that Alex's show is creating. | ||
| We're supposed to be anti war folks, but now we want to invade Mexico. | ||
| We're the anti Epstein folks, but we're supposed to just move on from Trump's cover up of that. | ||
| We're the anti police state people, but Alex wants us to accept Trump taking over DC and putting feds on the street. | ||
| Nick has answers for all of that, whereas Alex just has excuses and spin. | ||
| This media space relies on antagonism and having an other to point to and say I'm better than them. | ||
| the mainstream media worked as this foil, and Alex could brand himself as the truth based alternative to outlets like CNN. | ||
| But now the right wing media has become so insulated and in another world that it means nothing to compare yourself to CNN. | ||
| The thing is, you know, these models work and this antagonism model works, so it's just kind of being recreated with other players assuming different roles. | ||
| In the past, InfoWars was this insurgent avant garde option standing against the mainstream media, and now InfoWars is basically their version of mainstream media. | ||
| It's boring, repetitive, outdated, and is full of voices that are in favor of upholding the power structure. | ||
| Nick is the In info wars of the moment, but it's not because of anything that Nick did or didn't do or any credibility or value that he has. | ||
| This dynamic has evolved because Alex was full of shit the whole time. | ||
| If Alex and InfoWars had done their job and actually been an avant garde voice opposing the mainstream media, then he wouldn't have become a Trump sycophant, and he wouldn't have put himself in a position where he'd be getting alphaed by a young Nazi like Nick. | ||
| He would have been able to maintain his cutting edgeness. | ||
| Due to an excessive fealty to Trump and a tragic friendship with Roger Stone, Alex has entirely lost the plot on what his career was supposed to be about, and the timing just couldn't be worse. | ||
| The courts have given a green light to liquidating his assets, so he needs to move his customers over to the new fake company fast, but it feels like a lot of them just might use this crash out as a reason to explore new avant garde options, like ones Alex is presenting them with. | ||
| I think I don't it's so hard to know whether or not there's like an intentionality to it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But he's acting exactly in the same way that you would if you were intentionally just trying to funnel your audience to more extreme shit. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's like if you're looking at where Alex exists, it's something like he took a job opening. | ||
| Whenever he first started, it's not like he created this space, he walked into a space that was created for him. | ||
| If the media were blah, blah, blah, blah, then this space wouldn't exist. | ||
| And the same thing is happening with Nick. | ||
| He's creating the space for Nick to exist by not existing in that space. | ||
| He's created this wall of like, oh, well, Nick can be here, but I can't go there. | ||
| Here's where Nick is, but I can't be in that space at all. | ||
| And so people are just going to migrate there as he gets smaller and smaller and smaller. | ||
| Yeah, and a lot of that getting smaller and smaller is self imposed. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's the same way that like Trump's handling of the Epstein stuff is shooting himself in the foot. | ||
| Alex behaving this way around these issues in the in the presence of and while interacting with someone like Nick is shooting himself in the foot. | ||
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| He's just he's making himself clearly appear to be the false full of shit on. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And that's you couldn't ask for better if you're Nick. | ||
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Which is weird because it's like, man, just fucking take Nick's shit. | |
| I hate the Jews, just move on. | ||
| You know, what are you doing? | ||
| I think he's afraid. | ||
| I mean, absolutely he's afraid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is like, that's why you lose in this game of all games. | ||
| The whole thing is just fear nothing. | ||
| Is what I'm saying racist? | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Is it stupid? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Is it a lie? | ||
| Why wouldn't it be? | ||
| And yet I still have the confidence to say it to your face. | ||
| I think too much of his career has been spent in a time where there would be real social and financial consequences to being a David Duke type. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| David Duke suffered a lot of consequences that Alex was able to avoid largely. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I think that I don't think he can. | ||
| The winds are changing, yeah. | ||
| So Trump, Trump's going after people. | ||
| He's going to indict everyone. | ||
| And look, I know that a lot of people thought that was going to happen in the first term. | ||
| But if you think about it, Alex really never said that was going to happen. | ||
| Many of you have been listening for ten, twenty, thirty years. | ||
| Most of you for years. | ||
| You've heard me tell you that there wasn't going to be any indictments of the deep state in the first Trump administration because I knew that Sessions was weak. | ||
| I knew Barr was ultra bad. | ||
| And I understood who the players were and who they had at the head of the FBI. | ||
| And Trump's admitted he wasn't very sophisticated on how Washington works because he was not an insider. | ||
| And so he's learned a lot. | ||
| So this is a fun little rewriting of history. | ||
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| In the lead up to the 2016 election, Jeff Sessions was one of the first people in Congress to support Trump's candidacy. | ||
| And that made him a darling of the media surrogates like Roger Stone Stone. | ||
| Early on, Roger was coming on Infowars to promote the idea of Sessions being Trump's VP, and everyone loved the dude. | ||
| He was a guy with principle, which is what the globalists feared the most. | ||
| On November 18, 2016, Alex said, quote, He's now announced that his Attorney General should be confirmed by the Senate, Senator Jeff Sessions, that's going to happen. | ||
| Very honorable man. | ||
| Could not think of a better choice. | ||
| That guy does not deal in politics when it comes to justice. | ||
| People better look out. | ||
| And let me tell you, Hillary is going to get big trouble. | ||
| Jeff Sessions never compromises, never backs down, and is one of the best people we've got in our government. | ||
| He shouldn't be allowed to go back and listen to Sessions got into office and then recused himself from the Russian election interference investigation which turned all of the right wing media folks against him. | ||
| They voted for Trump so he would be irresponsible with power the way they liked, so his attorney general making a move like this was just the definition of weak. | ||
| And so the story became that they didn't ever think that Sessions was going to get things done in the first place. | ||
| Alex is a little closer to right about his take about William Barr, but that was a no brainer. | ||
| Barr was in the Bush administration and had been involved in Iran Contra, so he was a figure that entered the scene with some baggage. | ||
| Infowars took a much more I don't know about this type approach to his appointment, but they did still keep hope alive that Barr was going to get some indictments going. | ||
| They tried to rationalize that the only reason Trump would appoint someone like Barr is because Barr's a closer and he knows how to get results. | ||
| He knows where the bodies are buried. | ||
| I mean, I thought it was because he was a cover upper, famously covering up things. | ||
| I mean, a potato. | ||
| No, that's fair. | ||
| Potato. | ||
| I'll give Alex a pass about not promising that Barr would lock up all their enemies, but he's absolutely lying about not saying that Sessions was going to do that. | ||
| And the only reason you do this is because you want like you want that this time I'm serious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| energy. | ||
| No, I mean, it is, it is like I think if I, if I boil down what the general vibe is for me, it's like I have watched Trump run for president for the past decade and now I'm watching him be the president and everybody's going, well, this was a huge mistake. | ||
| We should never have allowed that. | ||
| We liked it when he was running for president. | ||
| He made us feel like something was going to happen. | ||
| What he's doing is horrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It should, it should be., it should be seen as pretty universally horrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, everyone like, I can't wait for him to demand everyone be vaccinated and the right wing to be like, you know what? | ||
| When you think about what he's done with the border. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe we've got to go with him on this one. | ||
| Here's what we do, okay? | ||
| Hypnosis. | ||
| I think that would work. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or just, you know, make him fall asleep a lot. | ||
| I mean, he's old. | ||
| Yeah, that should work. | ||
| He's probably pretty tired. | ||
| So Alex talks a little bit about the Trump Putin summit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's happening in Alaska. | ||
| White grain. | ||
| Which Trump keeps calling Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's fun. | ||
| But that is fun. | ||
| Alex is like, this is the problem with Ukraine is solved. | ||
| Now, there's also huge news on the Ukraine warfront, the biggest s s s. | ||
| And it just confirms exactly what I said because I've followed Trump's policies, I've followed his deal making, I've followed what he said. | ||
| People sit back and don't listen to it. | ||
| If Zelenskyy doesn't take this deal that's already done, that's already agreed to, he's going to formalize it. | ||
| Friday in Alaska with Putin and Trump, Trump is going to cut off all the military funds, all the intelligence, that's the direction of the missiles and the weapons. | ||
| We run that. | ||
| We run the war. | ||
| And Putin is then going to discontinue to blow the living hell out of the Ukrainian military, and there will be a coup by Zelensky's generals against him. | ||
| One of the top generals, we already know the name, will be made the interim president. | ||
| They will then hold elections. | ||
| There will be a ceasefire before the elections, and then the Russians will back. | ||
| And that's the deal. | ||
| So Alex is solidly in favor of forced regime change in Ukraine, which isn't a surprise or anything, but it's so out of line with who he's supposed to be. | ||
| Staying out of a war is a reasonable position for him to have on the basis of like non interventionism, but what he's advocating for is Trump choosing a winner of the war. | ||
| Incidentally, the Trump Putin summit in Alaska ended with no agreement about what to do in Ukraine and resulted in Trump saying that if they don't knock it off, he'll probably put more sanctions on Russia. | ||
| What you gonna do? | ||
| That threat came after Russia bombed a US owned factory in Ukraine that produced consumer electronics and had no connection to weapons or the war effort or anything. | ||
| Trump did not solve this war with that summit. | ||
| and the situation Alex is describing is his fantasy of what was going to happen. | ||
| And it just strikes me the same as like the this war will be over in 48 hours. | ||
| Zelensky works for Putin. | ||
| He's already agreed. | ||
| I mean, I just imagine myself not as lick, I don't want to be a big player in any of this, but I imagine myself in the position of somebody who's like a fairly high up aide somewhere around, who's like calling, who's getting things together. | ||
| And at a certain point, I am like writing something down and I go, Trump and Putin are going to meet to talk about the Ukraine peace thing. | ||
| And I just go, what am I doing? | ||
| What is it, what are any of us doing? | ||
| Do you know how much money it costs to get these two idiots to this place in the middle of nowhere to do nothing? | ||
| Because of course they're not going to do anything. | ||
| What is wrong with all of us? | ||
| They, um, appeared strong. | ||
| See? | ||
| So that's an achievement. | ||
| Is that what I do as an aid? | ||
| Is that what I am? | ||
| And there's police in DC? | ||
| What I'm trying to say is I would get out of there. | ||
| That would be my advice, stay in Alaska. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, it's a harsh tundra. | ||
| Sure? | ||
| The snow is unforgiving, but hey, it's acceptable. | ||
| You'll never have the realization that everything you've ever worked for or believed in is a lie. | ||
| True. | ||
| It'll just be cold. | ||
| So, look, the summit is going to happen, sure. | ||
| Everything's solved, and Alex has the position that if Trump just ends this Ukraine war, that makes his presidency worth it just on its own. | ||
| That's an interesting question. | ||
| This is huge, okay? | ||
| And if Trump can get this done, that alone is wonderful, and it was worth getting him into office and all we've gone through. | ||
| But the RFK junior stuff, all of it. | ||
| And I've just been doing a lot of soul searching. | ||
| I'm very critical of Trump when he's wrong. | ||
| Get on his ass first before anybody else does. | ||
| But I cannot sit back and throw the baby out with the bathwater and just become completely disillusioned and just watch the Democrats keep all their stolen seats and keep all their legal alien voters and have the new census and add 30 new seats for themselves and just the country's done. | ||
| And then they're coming after all of us. | ||
| So we need Trump to succeed. | ||
| And I pray to God there's no real Epstein stuff there. | ||
| I've never seen any evidence of it. | ||
| Most of his attractors don't believe believe that. | ||
| He's covering it up for Mossad and the CIA who we know ran it. | ||
| That's not even debatable. | ||
| We've done that for decades. | ||
| That's just one of these groups doing this. | ||
| And I said they're going to stab me in the back, Trump. | ||
| And I was told when he first got in seven months ago, you're not going to get the Epstein stuff. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| Not going to go on. | ||
| I've talked to prosecutors. | ||
| Roger Stone told me that. | ||
| He's now said it on the show that yes, he did say that. | ||
| And that's what it is. | ||
| So this is the bar that politicians need to clear now apparently for Alex. | ||
| It's fine if you actively cover up a giant child trafficking and blackmail rings just so long as you're not involved in it yourself, you're just doing the cover up as a favor to the CIA and Mossad. | ||
| This shit sounds so dumb to the point where you have to wonder if Alex can even hear himself. | ||
| What conspiracy in his career couldn't be justified by saying that the people in power were covering it up as a favor to the deep state because it being revealed would be too messy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is supposed to be a deal breaker for someone like Alex, and the fact that it's not should make everyone realize that the deal isn't what it appeared to be all this time. | ||
| What he's pretended to care about isn't really what matters, and when that becomes this clear, you can see what really does matter. | ||
| And again, Alex is rewriting hising his own history here. | ||
| He definitely didn't say that Trump wasn't going to release the Epstein files, and in fact promised that as soon as Kash Patel got in as the FBI director, they would be out day one. | ||
| He knows that his past positions destroy his current credibility, so he's just pretending that he said something different in the past in order to be like, I'm real, this is real this time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fucking garbage. | ||
| Sad. | ||
| I can't imagine like, okay, here's what I thought was the bonus to being a libertarian. | ||
| Fuck your baby. | ||
| I'm going to throw this bath water out and another baby. | ||
| That baby's not even in the bath. | ||
| I'm gonna throw that baby out too. | ||
| Fuck all babies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even my own baby. | ||
| I don't feel obligated to feed it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what the Miece Institute was. | ||
| That was their bread and butter was writing articles about how if you're a parent, you're not morally obligated to give your kid clothes. | ||
| It's all fucking bullshit. | ||
| Society's trash. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was the fun of libertarianism. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Well, because it's really just about power. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| And about power being directed in the ways that Alex wants, particularly those that. | ||
| Those that make his white identity class feel safe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So DC, whoo. | ||
| Trump put some troops, troops on the streets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know, listen, I know it's awful, but also you also have to know that a lot of those troops are like standing somewhere just going, what are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do we have orders? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do we like arrest people? | ||
| What do we arrest? | ||
| How do you arrest someone? | ||
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| There's a fair amount of milling around. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Confusedly. | ||
| We don't know what to do. | ||
| And it's totally cool. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Breaking Trump places DC under federal control, brings in National Guard to liberate capital from Democratic control. | ||
| And this is exactly the same type of stuff that Andrew Jackson and others did when cities fell into total riots and lawlessness. | ||
| The Trail of Tears. | ||
| So it is not the police state. | ||
| Trump's releasing nonviolent offenders, you know, all the rest of it, reforming all sorts of, you know, drug laws, you name it. | ||
| He wants the dealers in prison for life or executed, but the people using it, no, you know., get them medical help. | ||
| The Democrats were the ones training under Clinton and then Obama, and it happened under Bush too, to fight constitutional terrorists and their main mission, the main threat was militias and white supremacists, all this made up stuff. | ||
| And then they get them and say, The number one crime in America, it's rampant, white supremacists killing black people and Asians. | ||
| What? | ||
| So the drug people, drug users get the medical help. | ||
| I'm sure Alex wants the government to subsidize or pay for those programs to get them that medical help. | ||
| Well, nah, probably. | ||
| I mean, in a sense, medical help could include being put inside a very small room and held against your will. | ||
| Yeah, hypothetical medical help, not actual medical help. | ||
| Yes, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So I wrote thousands of words and erased thousands of words trying to sum up how fucked up it is for Alex to have the position that he has, but it's just self evident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's there's nothing you can say descriptively. | ||
| How do you describe air? | ||
| It's just it's air. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| If you and I look at this thing and you see something different, it is not my fault. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex supporting Trump taking over DC and his willingness to report this action as being part of, quote, liberating the city from Democrats is so far past what his definition of the police state should be That all he can really do is deny and then start ranting about how past presidents were too mean to militias and racists. | ||
| I honestly can't figure out how to say anything to add a point here other than to say that Alex has no listeners left with critical thinking skills. | ||
| They have been the subject to a lot of bottlenecks in the past that have thinned out their ranks, but this is impossible. | ||
| The only people who could possibly be left are super old, super dumb or Nazis who just haven't gotten the message that it's time to move on from this sinking ship. | ||
| Because this is atrocious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He, like, I don't know. | ||
| There's a lot of things that I think I have in the past said. | ||
| And he said, well, this invalidates his entire career. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But like, he's made so many films called Police State. | ||
| It's literally, I mean, it's literally a police state. | ||
| Because one, DC is its own state, right? | ||
| It's not a, it's not an independent state, it's its own thing, right? | ||
| It is in totality covered by police and National Guard people. | ||
| From other states, no less. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| National Guard troops from other states, who Trump has called in. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, what else is there to say? | ||
| What's weird about it? | ||
| Here's what's weird about it, right? | ||
| This feels like bad dictatorship. | ||
| Because if I'm open with what I want from, if I'm dictating, right? | ||
| I'm the bad guy. | ||
| If I'm open about what I want from these people, I'm getting the Oathkeepers. | ||
| I'm hiring thugs. | ||
| What I want is people to feel a general sense of terror, right? | ||
| But if I've got professional National Guards men who actually give a shit about what they do, they're more going to be like, How can I help you, man? | ||
| Like, that's what they do. | ||
| There might be a blend of Oathkeepers within. | ||
| Well, see, that's the problem with ICE is that I think Oathkeepers are getting hired by the millions. | ||
| That might be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think if you're a dictator, you might see it. | ||
| You might start with this and then bring in. | ||
| You know, like you might replace them. | ||
| Sure, get people to trust the people and then replace them with thugs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's possible. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| There's a bad dictator. | ||
| There's a lot of options. | ||
| Well, it's not in my interest. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| I haven't really I haven't thought about it too much. | ||
| So, Alex, one of the things that you notice watching this is like, as he's talking about how cool it is that DC has been taken over. | ||
| It's super cool. | ||
| He can't really talk about it without drifting deep into some feelings about race. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so, you know, you already saw it. | ||
| in that last clip. | ||
| He was already drifting into feelings about, oh, they called us white supremacists. | ||
| There's no white supremacist murders. | ||
| And he can't untangle this. | ||
| Every once in a while, some crazy white supremacist goes and kills some innocent black people, and man, it's the end of the world, it's all you ever hear about, but it is statistically incredibly rare. | ||
| I looked the numbers up, if you average out white supremacists killing black people over the last twenty years, there's about five black people a year. | ||
| And that's too many, but I mean, it is rare, rare, rare, rare, rare. | ||
| But now, oh, martial law, oh my gosh, Ice is illegal, they're arresting illegals. | ||
| Pellet Courts code is completely constitutional. | ||
| And DC is scary. | ||
| You can see that Alex's views, that he views Trump's takeover of DC as a racial crime related thing since he's trying to use the infrequency of white supremacist murders to invalidate the claim that what's happening in DC is the police state. | ||
| I think it's important for us to take a moment to think about what the police state means because on some level, Alex does have a few technicalities that he can play around with here, but he shouldn't be allowed to and he shouldn't want to. | ||
| On a purely technical level, Trump taking over the Metropolitan Police Department is not illegal. | ||
| It's within the powers of the president to declare an emergency and federalize it under his authority, and that emergency state continuing past the intended forty eight hour window is totally legal because this emergency was declared when Congress was adjourned. | ||
| The idea that there's a lot of crime in DC is a thin excuse to declare an emergency, but if that's what Trump considers an emergency and what Alex is willing to defend as requiring calling in the National Guard, that's their prerogative. | ||
| I strongly disagree and I would argue against that stance, but If that's the position they want to take, then that's where it stands. | ||
| Federalizing the DC police and calling in the National Guard to engage in domestic policing in DC is not technically illegal, but I think anyone looking at this honestly would have to say that it's an escalation of the police state. | ||
| National Guard troops and federalized police are patrolling public transit and district streets. | ||
| They've set up checkpoints in multiple locations, they're confiscating guns, and they're arresting people for petty crimes and doing immigration roundups. | ||
| This is the police state. | ||
| And if Alex wants to defend that on technicalities and pretend that local crime in DC is a good reason to declare an emergency requiring multiple states national guards. | ||
| State's National Guard forces responding, then that's on him. | ||
| He can take that stance if he wants. | ||
| It's easy for him to just say no, this isn't the police state stuff, but I've watched his documentaries. | ||
| There's multiple that include the title police state. | ||
| I know what he thinks about that. | ||
| Just building a big road was part of being a police state. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or like FEMA doing their job. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex is very stupid and really lazy, so I often give him more benefits of the doubt than he deserves because a lot of the time, it doesn't really matter whether he's operating from a place of idiocy or malice. | ||
| The effect is the same. | ||
| He deserves zero leeway on this. | ||
| And should recognize that him making excuses for Trump taking over DC is a stain on his entire career. | ||
| This is the moment his character was made for. | ||
| If you look at the world, this is when Alex Jones, why you have one. | ||
| Well, there's a pedophile billionaire in the White House with a very small group of other pedophile billionaires who run the world who's creating a fake emergency in order to militarize the police in the capital. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like this is the point of having somewhat like putting up with the negative externalities of having an Alex Jones in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And because these circumstances are com coming to bear. | ||
| You can see how fake it was the whole time. | ||
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| Never meant anything of it. | ||
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No. | |
| Just wanted power and white identity. | ||
| I mean, ironically, what's so funny is that he is proving true. | ||
| Something that he's often said is like, you know, if I was right they would kill me. | ||
| If I were anything but what I am, I would be dead by now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would be on, this is the perfect time to kill me. | ||
| I'm very killable at this exact moment. | ||
| But it turns out I'm not that scared. | ||
| It's it's one of the things that I hate the most. | ||
| Like, throughout my life, one of the things that I hate the most is just not being willing to take responsibility for wanting to and being that guy. | ||
| Like he wants to be and take and be the guy who's like, it's all right if he does that shit, but he doesn't want to take responsibility for being that guy. | ||
| He doesn't want to be accountable for being that guy. | ||
| He just wants to vacation there so he can get away with this bullshit and then go back to being whatever he fucking hates that shit. | ||
| I hate that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| The person that he pretends to be and wants to be is someone that has to make really, really difficult choices and oftentimes they go against what would be in their direct self interest. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He doesn't want to make those choices choices that go against his own self interest, but wants to still wear the hat. | ||
| Which is it's sad. | ||
| Which is like in a gestalt sense, you are making the wrong choice. | ||
| What is the choice that's for your best interests is the choice that paradoxically looks like it's not the choice for your best interests at this moment in time. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| Like Bill Cooper dying the way he did is the right choice. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| For him. | ||
| Even though it's horrible. | ||
| Even though it's wrong, it is the right choice. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because it completes the totality of the man. | ||
| He doesn't have to continue on. | ||
| Continue on in a career that will, you know, make him into what Alex is now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're just defending the thing that was the devil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For your whole career. | ||
| I mean, it's insane. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| It's just insane. | ||
| But DC is scary. | ||
| There's crime. | ||
| I've been in Detroit and they say it's super scary. | ||
| I've been in different areas. | ||
| No, not really. | ||
| Statistically, you know, crime. | ||
| I grew up in Dallas. | ||
| It was the murder capital of the US. | ||
| Off and on between Chicago. | ||
| So, I mean, they had like 14 murders a day when I was a kid. | ||
| So, I mean, it was like, you know, muggings all over., car jackings and home invasions and not, I mean, it's pretty wild. | ||
| And DC is scarier than growing up in Dallas in the eighties. | ||
| So in my opinion, I mean, let me tell you, you don't go around walking around at night, you sure as hell look over your shoulder, and if you want to have some racist stuff said to you because you're white, that's the place to go. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| So a few years back, I was seeing someone who lived in DC. | ||
| So I spent a fair amount of time there. | ||
| And I'll say that this does not match my experience of DC. | ||
| But again, you can see how much of Alex's feelings about Trump taking over DC has to do with his feelings about race. | ||
| He thinks that the black people in in DC aren't nice enough to white people, so you have to call in the National Guard. | ||
| That's basically what he's saying. | ||
| I mean, you know, you eat in the same restaurant and then here we are. | ||
| As to his point about growing up in Dallas, like, first off, there were absolutely not fourteen murders a day in Dallas in the eighties. | ||
| 1988 was the year of that decade that had the highest total number of murders, and it was 366 for the whole year. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the question there is, would Alex have supported the National Guard coming in to police Dallas when he was a kid? | ||
| Is he expecting me to think that his John Birch Society ass family would have been cheering on the feds, taking control of the city because crime was out of control? | ||
| No way! | ||
| Man, 14 dead a day is a lot though. | ||
| But it's not real. | ||
| No, I understand it's not real, but that would be, that would be maybe crazy enough that you're like, whatever's going on right now is not working. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's so many! | ||
| It is a lot. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| It's quite a few. | ||
| Again, hypothetical because nothing of this was happening. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, of course, it would be insane to do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I also think that, you know, it's hard to wrap your mind around numbers. | ||
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| Because of, like, the vastness of cities. | ||
| Sure, absolutely. | ||
| But 14, like what? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Almost 3, 3, 5, 000 people a year? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In a city like Dallas? | ||
| Mm hmm. | ||
| You know someone who's been murdered this year, if that's who you are, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like you, it has affected you. | ||
| You're one out of eight people who know someone who's been murdered. | ||
| That's the statistics on that, right? | ||
| It'd be almost like COVID. | ||
| Yeah, everyone would be like, Jesus Christ, there's so many fucking murders. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex thinks that this is going to work. | ||
| I mean, work to do what? | ||
| What is the goal though? | ||
| Scare homeless people? | ||
| There we go. | ||
| No, instead they're out actually aiding the police eyes and ears and just their presence is going to make crime drop dramatically. | ||
| And Trump told the homeless, this city isn't here for you. | ||
| We're not rolling out the red carpet anymore. | ||
| And most cities do that. | ||
| Places like Austin, San Francisco and DC advertise it's the place to come. | ||
| And so it's like Day of the Dead in Austin, Texas, since they did this six years ago. | ||
| Day of the Dead. | ||
| All over the place. | ||
| Homeless people constantly in my parents' backyard, banging on my daughter's condo door trying to get in all the time and it's not even a bad area. | ||
| It used to be a nice area and now it's like zombie land and Hispanic homeless black homeless white homeless all have been in my parents' backyard high as kites crapping Throwing garbage everywhere. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You get a schizophrenic one comes up to your door. | ||
| Looks like Charlie Manson with crap running down their their legs? | ||
| And all the NGOs giving them all the money. | ||
| So I guess Alex thinks that the Feds should come take over Austin too, then, right? | ||
| I mean, like what he's describing is like, this is out of control. | ||
| This is what you need the National Guard for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's too many scary, unhoused people around. | ||
| So you have to get troops on the street, bothering everyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a real cool, libertarian, Yeah. | ||
| Cool, small government, anti federal, states rights, C. kind of dude. | ||
| Because it's like, it's not like the Metropolitan Police Department isn't armed equally well as the National Guard. | ||
| Like they're got, they're fit equipped, they've got tanks and shit. | ||
| Well, you know? | ||
| Yeah, that's a lot of the police state stuff that Alex used to be quite critical about. | ||
| We're all very unhappy that the military sold all their useless war of Iraq shit to all of our cops, right? | ||
| Because now they have a lot of weapons. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, like, what are you guys doing, man? | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| But, like, seriously, as an okay, what about this? | ||
| What about we do this? | ||
| We make a bet, right? | ||
| Like, we're just going to let you do this shit. | ||
| You do the National Guard shit. | ||
| I don't give a shit about the law. | ||
| Do the National Guard shit for a year. | ||
| We study it. | ||
| We, everything is perfectly mapped out., and if it works, then it's fine. | ||
| But if it doesn't work, we can never do it again. | ||
| Well, I Yeah, I think you'd run into everyone bickering about like what the stats are, what they mean. | ||
| I think you would end up with kind of maybe an unfortunately meaningless dataset that wouldn't tell you if this actually achieved whatever goal you wanted it to or not. | ||
| An argument could be made in both directions, probably based on whatever the results are. | ||
| It'll have to be me. | ||
| You can't do it more, ever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| This also might be dysgy. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| I just think that Alex just wants poor people to be rounded up. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| At least we're spending money on them somehow. | ||
| Now, admittedly, it's not helping them, it's paying someone else to hurt them, but we are investing in our population, if you think about it. | ||
| That's a very optimistic view. | ||
| See, I'm an optimistic guy. | ||
| So, look, there's tyranny in the world. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But what about the tyranny of crime? | ||
| Maybe we need someone to free us from the tyranny of crime. | ||
| I think it's possible, I think it's impossible to to be crime tyrant because the law is the tyranny. | ||
| No, not anymore. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Crime is the tyranny. | ||
| Crime is the tyranny. | ||
| In LA and places, the cops get in trouble if they arrest people dealing with drugs. | ||
| And it's gone like that in Austin with Jose Garza, our open communist Soros DA. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The tyranny is the crime explosion and our reporter getting executed by some Mexican and a black supremacist who all bragged about it. | ||
| We killed that white bitch. | ||
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| Eva LaRaza killed the cracker. | ||
| It's in the indictment. | ||
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| Car jackings all the time right around the studio. | ||
| Six years ago, almost no crime. | ||
| Nice area. | ||
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Hell hole. | |
| And the state police aren't trained right when the governor put them in. | ||
| They just write tickets. | ||
| They're real good at, you know, well, you were five miles over the speed limit. | ||
| Let's pull you over. | ||
| And I'm just like, I'm going to give you a warning, Alex, but I'm like, can't you go? | ||
| They're selling crack a mile down the road right here. | ||
| I know. | ||
| We're just here to patrol and we pull over a lot of cars to stop. | ||
| We caught some people. | ||
| We pull them over. | ||
| I'm like, great. | ||
| Thanks a lot, man. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, come on. | ||
| You got literal crackheads up 50 yards away, actually, in the woods, and you're going to pull me over five miles of the speed limit. | ||
| Okay, whatever. | ||
| Knock yourself out. | ||
| So, yeah, we're just showing some images of Austin. | ||
| So, thank God for Trump. | ||
| And he's doing the right thing, and it's beautiful, and it's all constitutional. | ||
| Here's what he had to say today. | ||
| Very serious purpose. | ||
| Something's out of control, but we're going to put it in control very quickly quickly, like we did on the southern border. | ||
| I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor, and worse. | ||
| So one of the people arrested for killing Alex's reporter, Jamie White, did record a song that mentioned killing that white guy, but because it's Jamie White's last name, it's very difficult to say if they were referring to his skin color or his name. | ||
| Alex has naturally taken it as a racial attack because that's how he experiences everything, to the point where I guess Mexican supremacists and black supremacists were working together to kill his employee. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's bridging a gap? | ||
| I mean, you know, it's nice to see people working together. | ||
| Overcoming their differences. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's kind of an inspiring story if you think about it. | ||
| So we can tell from Alex's actions that police state stuff really isn't that important to him, because if it were, this would be a bridge that he just couldn't cross. | ||
| Fill in the blank with whatever explanation you want, but the bottom line is that if he ever really cared about this stuff from a principal standpoint, his behavior would be different now. | ||
| From that data point, it's helpful to go back and see what insight you can have about other positions that he used to push around this stuff. | ||
| If Alex really never cared that much about police state stuff and federalizing of the National Guard, then what was he actually mad about? | ||
| Positions that he was trying to hide behind that facade of police state outrage. | ||
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| Spoiler alert, it was mostly just racism and attacking public spending to protect the wealth of the elites. | ||
| That's basically what all this was a mask for. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's no other way to say it, but if ever there was going to be a universal like, well, January 6 wasn't that bad of an idea, it's got to be now. | ||
| Like there's it's a police state in DC. | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| What do you want? | ||
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| The real police state was Trump not winning in 2020. | ||
| That you, hey, if that's what you want to to say, that's fine. | ||
| But do you know what that also includes? | ||
| This right now, that it still includes this right now. | ||
| Trump is going to save us from the tyranny of crime. | ||
| But that's what I'm saying. | ||
| But even then, it still includes this right now. | ||
| So all the things that made you do january 6 right are now but more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But also, let's take a little moment to step back and realize that the reasons they did january 6 are not what you're. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, okay. | ||
| I don't think they were telling the truth. | ||
| No, I think they might not have been on the level. | ||
| I think they might not have been on the level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Almost like all these fucks are liars. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Anyway, Trump talks here a little bit. | ||
| He's giving his announcement. | ||
| And I like that he says that the capital has been taken over by wild youths. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Our capital city has been taken over by violent gangs and bloodthirsty criminals, roving mobs of wild youth, drugged out maniacs and homeless people. | ||
| And we're not going to let it happen anymore. | ||
| We're not going to take it. | ||
| Yeah, I live in a pretty good part of Austin. | ||
| And I drive to work sometimes at five, six in the morning. | ||
| And there'll just be people running half naked with baseball matches just across the highway. | ||
| Warriors. | ||
| And then I've seen people run around like machetes, baseball batches, just attacking each other on the side of the road. | ||
| And I mean, some mornings when I guess they're really wound up, I mean, I'll see it multiple times. | ||
| Like I'm in Grand Theft Auto. | ||
| And I'm just driving along, I've got my gun out and I'm, I'm sorry? | ||
| Oh, that red light, it's going to red light. | ||
| Oh, there's two crazys right there. | ||
| And I'm just like, oh, let me get my gun. | ||
| So I don't want to have to shoot anyone, but I mean, it is. | ||
| They are on fentanyl, methamphetamine. | ||
| That sounds insane. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, here's what I love about everybody who's ever been like, Oh, Chicago, there's so much g gun violence. | ||
| Man, I've never felt like I should drive around with a brandished gun out the window. | ||
| When you drive over here to record. | ||
| Never once. | ||
| Never once was I like that. | ||
| You're not just holding? | ||
| I just better be, I just better have this pointed out the window. | ||
| Because who knows what could happen. | ||
| Well, but here's the thing. | ||
| Alex isn't either. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| He's making this up. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I've seen so many videos that he's shot himself of him driving around. | ||
| He's not holding a gun. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's casually driving around because in a nice car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's trying to create the image of that, you know, the LP video, Deep Space 9 mm, right? | ||
| Everybody has a gun to take. | ||
| Yeah, everybody's just pointing a g a gun at each other all the time. | ||
| This is what it's like. | ||
| This is what, this is how it has to be in order to keep the peace. | ||
| It's not, you're driving around, recording yourself, posing on Twitter. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| There's no way that the writer of Deathwish should become the president. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like Charles Bronson going around solving crime by himself. | ||
| I was just reading the other day that they remade Deathwish. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| I didn't realize that. | ||
| I must have known and then forgotten. | ||
| But Bruce Willis. | ||
| Bruce Willis? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bruce Willis will never beat Charles. | ||
| Bronson was perfect for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It also, this is a crazy thing to say. | ||
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| So much more violent than the first one. | ||
| Which is weird. | ||
| The first one is really not that violent. | ||
| No, he doesn't kill, he kills like, I think, one or two people. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's in any way you could describe it, it's more like, probably an overreaction, but an understandable one. | ||
| Deathwish two is when it's like, oh, this guy's just a. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Is it Deathwish three? | ||
| Three. | ||
| Three is when he's just basically mowing people down, like hot shots, part due. | ||
| Yeah, three is where it gets out of hand. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| But I think I saw the trailer for the remake, because I was thinking about watching it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, I think what they just must have done is compressed all of them into this remake. | ||
| I think that sucks. | ||
| Anyway, Alex does seem to think that he's living in the Warriors. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds nuts. | ||
| That sounds fun. | ||
| And he also thinks that all of these other gangs in New York, all of these fun dressed up gangs, Yeah. | ||
| They all just hate him because he's white. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| So this all ties together. | ||
| I want to just get this on record because it's absolutely true. | ||
| And I thought, I'll give this to McBreen or someone. | ||
| We'll take this guy's video like we like to do and upgrade it and just add history and documents to it. | ||
| So you know all the specifics. | ||
| He does a good job. | ||
| But I mean, I could you could make a whole movie about this. | ||
| But notice there really aren't any movies. | ||
| I think there's like one movie about it. | ||
| Because that doesn't fit the narrative. | ||
| You know, well, the only places slavery still around is in some places in the Middle East and Africa. | ||
| In Somalia, there are famous slavers. | ||
| Elon Omar comes from a famous noble family in there. | ||
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She doesn't even see him as African. | |
| They see blacks in the Quran as, quote, raisin heads. | ||
| And they would take the black men and cut their genitals off as slaves. | ||
| That's the Muslims, okay? | ||
| But they preach Islam in the prisons. | ||
| The Imam doesn't read that part of the Quran. | ||
| to you. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And I'm not trying to attack blacks that want to be Muslims or whatever, but it's just please. | ||
| My point is please, please stop saying I'm a white devil because of the color of my skin. | ||
| Actually, I'm a pink devil. | ||
| A little bit of red devil, actually. | ||
| The point is that I'm tired of it and I'm not going to bow down to it. | ||
| But it's the globalists and the media and Hollywood doing this to get us to kill each other. | ||
| And it's stupid. | ||
| But you have large groups of young black men who really believe it's open season on whites because of the culture and the media. | ||
| Remember they had some of the Afrikaners, only eighty of them coming here? | ||
| here and they have all these black commentators on TV that are supposedly educated saying they try to be racist to me. | ||
| I'm going to beat the hell out of them. | ||
| This is going well. | ||
| Like the Afrikaners get off and go, you work for me, black man. | ||
| That's what they do, yes. | ||
| They hide out on their farms. | ||
| They're totally scared to death and have a bunch of black people that love them, that are Christian, that defend them. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So just a little side note. | ||
| At the beginning, Alex is literally talking about stealing and improving a video made by a black life coach about how white people didn't create slavery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like he has no concern about intellectual property that this guy might have. | ||
| And also, I really do think the funny, it's a funny idea conceptually. | ||
| He doesn't have any idea conceptually, just that he's like, I could do that better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is an exemplification of the very thing that is it's impossible to wrap your head around really. | ||
| So this is also very instructive because this is still an offshoot of the conversation about Trump taking over DC. | ||
| On a very basic level, Alex supports Trump taking over the city because he sees it as predominantly black. | ||
| So this extension of the police state is going in the direction that he supports. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've said it many times and I'll say it again. | ||
| Alex doesn't care about the idea of a tyrannical state as long as he feels like the groups that he considers himself a part of are not targeted by it. | ||
| about militias and Nazis, then the police state is the biggest issue in the world, and something as minor as FEMA trying to prepare for a natural disaster is proof of an evil plot. | ||
| If the government is full of militia types and Nazis, then the police state isn't that big of a problem, and it's fully justified by how much crime Alex sees people post videos of on Twitter, and it's just nonsense. | ||
| Pretending there's anything much deeper than that to his core beliefs is a little I mean, the National Guard has called into DC to cover the place. | ||
| How do you not just go like ah, fuck. | ||
| Fuck, like that would be my whole show. | ||
| That would be my whole show. | ||
| Everything up to this point, I'd be like, ah, I tried with the Epstein stuff. | ||
| I gave it a chance. | ||
| You know, I tried to light in through that. | ||
| And then what about the butter? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I mean, the butter's a problem. | ||
| You know, the devil's a problem. | ||
| But you know what, fuck man, fuck that. | ||
| That's just, it's comically far. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's too far. | ||
| It's like, it's almost personal. | ||
| It feels like if I was, if I was Trump and I was like, you know what would really make me fucking laugh is to sometimes just every now and then watch a clip of Alex Jones having to defend the absolutely worst shit I've ever done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that'd be hilarious. | ||
| I imagine it would be really funny if Trump. | ||
| did like the State of the Union and he just made two frogs king. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He was just totally pushing frogs up against each other. | ||
| If I would support a if the next president just wanted to antagonize one person through all of what he does, that would be better than what we have currently, and so I will, according to the rules of Hillary Clinton, vote for the lesser of two evils. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex was talking a little bit about the Afrikaners there. | ||
| Yeah, that was great. | ||
| I think you should talk more about the Afrikaners if you're a white supremacist. | ||
| Well, good, he does. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And then roving bands of non Christian communists come and kill the blacks and the whites of South Africa. | ||
| You don't know anything, dumbass. | ||
| The blacks are all battling to prove themselves and go live on the farms with the white people. | ||
| They're like, they're Amish dumb bows. | ||
| That's literally what they are. | ||
| They went to America, they went to South America, they went and found Hawaii, the king of Hawaii gave Amish on this island. | ||
| They called the Forbidden Island. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| There are Amish there today. | ||
| And only the Amish and the natives live there with no electricity. | ||
| I was invited out there. | ||
| I didn't have time true at all, but it speaks to Alex's belief in white supremacy and his fundamental support for the world of colonialist times. | ||
| Afrikaners are not Amish. | ||
| They're descended from mostly Dutch settlers who were servants of the Dutch East India Company. | ||
| On account of the Afrikan being a Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The Dutch Reformed Church made a foothold there in South Africa, but over time a split developed in the church and a new Dutch Reformed Church of South Africa began, which was distinct in many ways. | ||
| At the root, though, Reformed churches are churches that are inspired by Calvinist doctrine and are built around the idea that man is a slave to sin and cannot escape by choice or will. | ||
| Only those who God has chosen to help can be saved and these are the elect. | ||
| These teachings were introduced by John Calvin, a French theologian who was alive in the early fifteen hundreds. | ||
| Conversely, the Amish grew out of the Anabaptist Reformation that went down in Switzerland also in the fifteen hundreds. | ||
| The radical departure that the Anabaptists made from the existing church was that they only practiced baptism of believers, which is to say you had to be an adult to be baptized. | ||
| The act of being baptized is a holy agreement between by your own free will and understanding, so child baptism is meaningless. | ||
| The Calvinist tradition practices infant baptism and is not part of the Anabaptist tradition that spread into the Amish and Mennonite churches that Alex would be vaguely familiar with. | ||
| Beyond the fact that their histories and theological lineages are completely separate, there's also just fundamental differences between what these churches believe and how they practice their faith. | ||
| The forbidden island in Hawaii is Nihao and it's privately owned. | ||
| The census says that there's one hundred seventy people living on the island, but it's entirely under the control of the Robinson family who are descendants of a rich Scottish farmer named Elizabeth Sinclair. | ||
| She bought Neihau from the Kingdom of Hawaii for ten thousand bucks in gold in eighteen sixty four, and it's passed down through the family ever since. | ||
| They are somewhat conservative, but I really don't think they would have invited Alex to visit the island. | ||
| It just doesn't seem right. | ||
| It's a complex thing here where this family has complete control over the island and they make a bunch of money letting the military have a post there, but the flip side of it is that they're conservationists, and part of their ownership involves allowing the native population on the island to continue to live there unimpeded and rent free. | ||
| Over the years, they have allowed half day visits to the island for tourists and hunters for a price, but it's always been strictly forbidden to interact with the locals who would be on the other side of the island from where any visitors would be anyway. | ||
| It's kind of bullshit because the family also imposes a bunch of artificial rules on the indigenous population, like not allowing drinking or smoking and not allowing men to grow beards. | ||
| So what they're doing is more or less allowing an artificial remnant of Nihau culture to remain as long as it conforms to what they want it to be. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| A lot of these people on the island work to maintain the military installation, so it's not a wholly benevolent act for the family to allow them to live on the island, since if they didn't do that, they'd have to find another source of labor to facilitate the base that allows them to get the rent. | ||
| So there's a lot of speculation that the 170 number on the census is an overcounting and there might be only like fifty people living on Neihau. | ||
| So it could be the case that a very significant portion of the population is employees there to maintain the base and keep the family getting the rent from the US government and contracts and all that stuff. | ||
| I like the idea of calling them somewhat conservative. | ||
| That's funny to me because to me, there's no line once you go, I should keep holding this island. | ||
| It's like if you're fully on the other side of the, you know, I don't need a somewhat in there. | ||
| Well, you own an island and have, roughly speaking, somewhat enslaved its people. | ||
| I'm judging this based on the fact that there are still people who live there are technically still US citizens, so sure. | ||
| And so can vote. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| It's a very small number of people who end up voting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they have voted pretty, pretty Republican. | ||
| Funny how that works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Funny. | ||
| It's all very messy and I don't trust anything of this. | ||
| But whatever the case is, Elizabeth Sinclair was not Amish and neither is. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Alex just likes colonialism and he's tying himself into knots to explain it in some other way than just we white people should be running everything. | ||
| I mean, I genuinely just will never understand anyone who's like, Oh yeah, this island should be mine. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't I see both ends of it. | ||
| I think my idealistic side agrees with you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I also like, I don't know, once we start entering into that conversation, like all land ownership becomes dysfununctional. | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| And doesn't it? | ||
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| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree in idealistic terms. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| With a lot of that, but functionally, I don't know how we get there from here. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| We don't need to go too far. | ||
| What about this, we compromise on, you can't just have your own island. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that was fair. | ||
| Except Epstein. | ||
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| He gets to keep it. | ||
| Weirdly enough. | ||
| So Alex has a guest on the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's a fellow we haven't seen a little bit. | ||
| Real nutbag. | ||
| And he kind of, he's the kind of person who gives me hope that Steve Pochanek could make a return. | ||
| So come back? | ||
| Because this guy was gone for a while too. | ||
| Okay, Patrick Byrne is a very interesting person. | ||
| He's worked, done US intelligence and a lot of high level stuff. | ||
| He's also started in huge, successful multi-million dollar companies. | ||
| Dr. Patrick M. Byrne, Patrick Byrne on X, deepcapture dot com, major films made about his work and his very intriguing life. | ||
| And I'm not going to go over his, you know, lengthy Please don't. | ||
| curriculum. | ||
| But all the rounds. | ||
| I'm not proud. | ||
| He's here to talk about Venezuela and how it ties into the Democrat overall plan to steal elections and how it ties into the gerrymandering, the redistricting. | ||
| You can't be any less serious than interviewing Patrick Byrne in 2025. | ||
| We haven't talked about him in a while because he was a little too out there for Alex to associate with during the fallout of the 2020 election conspiracies. | ||
| He was way too closely connected to people like Sidney Powell, who were getting sued all over the place and becoming punchlines. | ||
| So he became a much less important figure in this media. | ||
| To give you a little refresher on him, Byrne founded overstock dot com, but he resigned in 2019 when it came out that he' had been in a relationship with Russian spy Maria Bettina. | ||
| She pledged guilty of conspiracy to act as an unregistered foreign agent, infiltrating organizations like the NRA on behalf of the Russian government and creating back channel connections between these figures and the government. | ||
| She and Byrne were involved, which he claimed only happened because the FBI had asked him to date her, a claim which the FBI strongly denies. | ||
| She served a few months in jail and then was deported to Russia in 2019 where she went on to work for RT. | ||
| In 2021 she was elected to the Russian Duma, but her candidacy was almost derailed by revelations made by now dead Alexei Navalny that Byrne was still sending her large sums of money in 2021. | ||
| So what are you going to do? | ||
| Patrick Byrne is a fucking mess and Alex better hope he's paying for this airtime because the alternative is that he actually wants to talk to Patrick Byrne about Venezuela conspiracies. | ||
| I mean, it feels like this is out of the blue. | ||
| It feels like if I'm booking my show and what's going on is going on right now and Patrick Byrne is like available with Venezuela talk, I'm like, buddy, not the time. | ||
| But if Patrick Byrne is available with a lot of money and Venezuela talk, you got all the time in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that the way the vibe that this interview goes to is that like Alex doesn't seem that engaged at the beginning and then realizes I can work with this. | ||
| Oh right. | ||
| And becomes like pretty excited as he realizes like, oh wait, the Venezuela stuff connects to all the smartmatic and dominion conspiracy. | ||
| I can fold your shit into my shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so he gets on board more as it goes along, but it does feel like I'm just talking to this ding dong at the beginning. | ||
| That's why you get the crazies though, because then you can fold in some real craziness, you know? | ||
| He doesn't have the creative juices anymore. | ||
| These people are coming out of nowhere with fringe ideas. | ||
| What about the butter? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, you want a fringe idea? | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Here's a fringe idea. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Well, that's what, and I mean, Vance, I know Vance and people, he's a very serious guy, a very, very smart person. | ||
| Is he? | ||
| And very measured, but he doesn't go on Fox News and say, no, a bunch of people are getting a dot, it's happening. | ||
| And so I think the only thing to do is to replace the top 3,000 people in the government with ex-military from SOCOM or the Marines. | ||
| You have to start with people you can trust. | ||
| And there's a whole layer of. | ||
| All the lawyers, the politicos, they're just all soft scum. | ||
| The first rule is you have to get the right people in in place and the only people you can trust at this point are ex-socom or marines, I think. | ||
| Historically speaking. | ||
| I mean, this is good. | ||
| Historically speaking, when the top 3000 people in your government are all military or ex-military, you're going to have a good time. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, no, it works. | ||
| You're going to have a grand time. | ||
| They're the trustworthy people. | ||
| I think just that conversation happening is fucking stupid. | ||
| You know what I think? | ||
| Military junkta. | ||
| How do you feel? | ||
| I mean, someone like Alex who really worries about the police state, really worries about tyranny. | ||
| Rice. | ||
| Small government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, this would be a smaller government of just three thousand people, all of whom I think, well, I think there would be more than three thousand. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| You know, they would keep the other people on. | ||
| I assume those people would want to work for the military. | ||
| I don't know if want comes into it. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| So Epstein comes up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And Alex is like, this Trump and Epstein stuff. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| And Patrick Byrne, I mean, he was a really rich guy. | ||
| He ran over stuff. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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| So he reveals. | ||
| That he knew Epstein? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| He almost did it as an assassination mission. | ||
| Oh, hell yeah. | ||
| Epstein. | ||
| I've never seen any evidence of Trump and anything to do with that. | ||
| And then his behavior the last 37 days, creating a Strasbourg effect, he's not stupid. | ||
| What the hell is going on there from your sources? | ||
| I don't think he was I don't think he's I don't think he's been filmed on Epstein Island. | ||
| You know, Epstein, about two months before he was arrested, tried very hard to get me to come to Epstein Island. | ||
| Did I ever try that one? | ||
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| I had this plan to go out and I figured, well, I figured I'll accept it and go out and murder him. | ||
| And then we'll go for a long swim. | ||
| I'm a little I like long distance swimming. | ||
| I feared if I would get him out swimming I could drown him. | ||
| I got in a pool with a guy about my size and it turned out to be really a lot harder to drown someone than you think. | ||
| And then I found out about the cameras, that there were cameras everywhere and they said, You're never gonna get away with it, so I didn't go murder him. | ||
| But he tried very hard. | ||
| And that's because the CIA knew what I had and what I already knew and they didn't, so they were going to try to blackmail me. | ||
| So about a month before he got arrested, I had very, three very strong overtures. | ||
| People came all the way to Utah to say, gosh, this Jeffrey Epstein, don't believe what you hear about him. | ||
| He's a wonderful guy. | ||
| He's got this big trading room. | ||
| He really wants to meet you, Pat. | ||
| He really wants you to come out and talk to you. | ||
| By the way, he's really good friends with Bill Gates. | ||
| Don't believe what you hear in them. | ||
| He's he's very he's tied to all these elites. | ||
| You have to come see his trading room. | ||
| He really wants to meet you. | ||
| This dude's nuts. | ||
| Here's what I like about that story. | ||
| And I hope you caught what I caught. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| All right. | ||
| In his I'm going to drown Epstein story, the reason he doesn't drown Epstein is because he got a large man in a pool. | ||
| Comma turns out it's very hard to drown someone. | ||
| Comma. | ||
| That's why I didn't go murder. | ||
| Well, no, that's not actually true. | ||
| You were not listening closely enough because this large man in a pool is a difficulty. | ||
| This is a challenge, but he could have risen to that challen challenge. | ||
| It was the cameras. | ||
| The cameras were why he didn't do it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think the cameras are a good way to say that. | ||
| But come on, the cameras you're out, you're a long distance swimmer and there are cameras out that far. | ||
| Our own cameras. | ||
| Listen, if you had the gumption and the ability to strangle a large man in a pool, Epstein would have been dead. | ||
| No, that's all I'm saying. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| He was afraid and he was weak. | ||
| No, see, this is glass half full, glass half empty, kind of thinking. | ||
| I think that if he hadn't found out about the cameras, sure. | ||
| He would have worked on his drowning skills. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| I'm not saying that you're wrong. | ||
| It's the cameras that were the deal breaker. | ||
| I won't argue. | ||
| Not that it's hard to drown someone in a pool. | ||
| Patrick Byrne is a achiever. | ||
| No, no, I understand. | ||
| He started a multibillion dollar business. | ||
| I get you. | ||
| What I think is funnier about that is not that he could or could not have drowned this man. | ||
| It is that he had the idea, I'll go drown Epstein. | ||
| But he's not going off half cocked. | ||
| No. | ||
| We're going to practice first, of course. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You don't want to go out there and realize in the moment this is too hard. | ||
| Shit, I can't drown anyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's embarrassing. | ||
| So if we're talking about a premeditated attempted murder, it doesn't get more. | ||
| obvious than when you've got a man in the pool trying to drown him for practice drowning people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I imagine what actually happened was that Patrick Byrne had done a little too much coca and tried to drown someone in a pool and now he's come up with a story to explain that helps. | ||
| That's practicing for IPv6. | ||
| That would be, listen, that would be of all the reasons to get fake drowned. | ||
| I think I might accept that one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex talks about how like Roger Roger told him all the time that Trump was never going to release the 16 stars. | ||
| It just wasn't going to happen. | ||
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| Why would Trump come out and create a Strides Hand effect and say he killed himself? | ||
| and don't ask questions or you're dumb. | ||
| He has to know that would create a John Strauss-Neill effect. | ||
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| Well, I don't think he's in the tapes and his lawyer and all kinds of people who would know have said he's not involved. | ||
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| Even Cohen hates him, says he's not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think he worked there a decade and said he never heard a call from Epstein. | ||
| Maybe there's other people involved and maybe that's what I was told by Roger Stone off record. | ||
| Now he's been public. | ||
| He told me when Robin Trump got re-elected, he said, You're never gonna get it because the CIA was involved with your buddies, the Mossad, and they don't want to come out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That would be my guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That would be my guess. | ||
| Well, then I don't have any inside and side information on that one. | ||
| Well, I just know it is the fiasco fiascos and so this is an explanation that Alex is offering for how it's possible that Trump would cover up the Epstein stuff but not be directly involved in it. | ||
| But I don't think he understands how unacceptable this explanation is. | ||
| If Trump is covering it up, then he's complicit with these people. | ||
| He's chosen their interests over justice and disclosure because holding the people involved responsible would be too disruptive. | ||
| This is horrible shit, but Alex is able to present it as exonerating Trump because the alternative is considering that maybe Trump was best friends with a serial child predator for a number of years. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know if it means anything but I was fascinated by Alex's I'm fascinated by Alex's story of what Roger told him. | ||
| Like, why does Alex say that Roger called Mossad your buddies. | ||
| I get that it's a joke, but it's a weird joke. | ||
| It is a weird joke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not really a joke. | ||
| It's not funny. | ||
| I guess it's absurdist or like, no, I don't get it. | ||
| Well, it hinges on either Alex hating Mossad or working for them. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Those are the ways that a joke could be leveraged. | ||
| It would have to be. | ||
| And I don't know what the, I don't know what the angle is. | ||
| Maybe it's because people say he works for Mossad and that's his. | ||
| That would be Roger fucking with him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That works. | ||
| But then if it's Roger fucking with him, then why is Alex repeating I don't know. | ||
| That in his telling of the story. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
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They're such weird. | |
| They're such weird people. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they're salesmen. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| And so it's time to get some of the methylene blue sales. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And man, Patrick fucks up. | ||
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Oh. | |
| This is not good. | ||
| And then there's so much other news I haven't hit. | ||
| Now, you want to do the plug and I appreciate this. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I came up. | ||
| Because you came in saying I want more methylene blue. | ||
| And then I looked over when you went on the air, you'd already slurped some down. | ||
| Your mouth was blue. | ||
| I said, Your Papa's Murph show, show, show. | ||
| Patrick Burton. | ||
| How much is the correct amount to put in? | ||
| About that much? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Kennedy does three robbers. | ||
| This is really strong. | ||
| You gave me some last time. | ||
| I think you gave it on the air. | ||
| And I thought it was a gimmick or, you know, snake oil. | ||
| You totally feel the difference. | ||
| I used the bottle you gave me. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It totally makes it you can feel it. | ||
| It just keeps your energy level up and plateaued without bonks. | ||
| So I love it. | ||
| I used the bottle you gave me and I came back to Austin just to pick up a pumpkin. | ||
| Well, you can always get it at theojohnshow.com. | ||
| We'll certainly give you all you want. | ||
| We also have the capsules, but we have the strongest medical grade. | ||
| So Patrick thought that what he was doing was saying that Alex's products aren't like the other things you find in the market, which are all snake oil. | ||
| What he failed to realize is the implication here is that when Alex suggested something, Patrick has known Alex for a long time, so his first assumption when he hears Alex selling a product is that it's snake oil and that it's a gimmick, and I don't care. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He meant well, because he didn't realize this was what he was saying, but it doesn't sit well with Alex. | ||
| So after they plug their way out to a commercial, they come back from a pre-recorded Methylene Blue ad, and then this happens. | ||
| They're going to do a second take? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| They're going to have a little therapy session. | ||
| Uh oh. | ||
| Patrick, I'm not trying to get you to plug, though I mean, I am now. | ||
| You got caught off the break. | ||
| You were since we got cut off. | ||
| You didn't come here to do a plug. | ||
| I wasn't thinking about Methylene Blue. | ||
| I brought it up and said, Alex, would you let let me tell your viewers what an experience I had? | ||
| Well, I love you and you're a really smart guy and you've been totally vindicated everything you've ever said, so I'm really impressed. | ||
| I always liked you, but I can tell you you were a spook before it ever came out in the news. | ||
| I was always a little paranoid about any of that stuff. | ||
| But I'm a little hurt though that you're like, oh, because I remember you were reticent. | ||
| I said, you want to try some of this? | ||
| You're like, really? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| And I was like, no, no, no. | ||
| And I'm a little hurt though that you would think that it would be snake oil. | ||
| I knew it wasn't snake oil, but I was like, no, no, I understand, I understand. | ||
| But I mean, listen, everything we sell, I want is working and is good. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| I mean, I'd be like, oh, you're gonna serve dog shit to people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I mean, this thing is the most dramatic, quick acting. | ||
| And it's good for you. | ||
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It's just insane. | |
| And if I could just get a few more percent of the audience to buy it, all our problems would be solved. | ||
| You know, I'm back in State Court Wednesday. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is, oh my God. | ||
| Coming out of a little weekend thing. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Little defensive. | ||
| I do like it because the old, you know, the it's a common trope in marketing, the, the, like, well, I was skeptical too, but now I'm a believer, you know, but there's a way to do it. | ||
| And then there's a way to be like, Alex, you're a lying piece of shit. | ||
| But you know what, this works. | ||
| The way you're supposed to do it is I've tried other methylene blood. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I just, you know, it didn't do what that had promised. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I took yours. | ||
| I didn't think it was going to work because of my experience with other bad versions of this product. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Not, hey, Alex, you suggested something and I thought it was snake oil. | ||
| Every time I buy something from you, it's bullshit. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I assumed that the next time I bought something from you, it would also be bullshit. | ||
| Or like, let's take the buying away from it. | ||
| Because I don't necessarily believe that you didn't buy any of these. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I just am on this side of the business. | ||
| So I'm not an idiot. | ||
| I don't fall for your shtick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I wasn't expecting much, but this actually was good. | ||
| There's plenty of ways to do it, but you've very clearly given up. | ||
| the game. | ||
| Alex is a lying piece of shit. | ||
| It was really funny when I was listening to this, I was like, as soon as he said that, I was like, Alex is not going to like that. | ||
| Alex is not going to like. | ||
| And then when you came back from break and had to have this little heart to heart with him, I was like, yep, that's exactly what I thought was going to happen. | ||
| This feels very called into the general manager's office at a McDonald's or something like that, you know, like, Hey, you know, you can't you can't tell people the food's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you just can't like, we're, I understand maybe we're a fast food restaurant. | ||
| Maybe you're, you prefer to be in all these fancy restaurants, but you know, you can't tell our customers that the food they're buying is bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Look, I'm telling everyone that you've been vindicated about everything. | ||
| I'm holding up my part of the bargain. | ||
| Don't piss in my What are we doing? | ||
| My juice club. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the two of them, they're fine with the whole federalizing DC thing. | ||
| Sure, of course. | ||
| It's mostly, I think, a lot of their feelings come down to like, the homeless are too cocky. | ||
| That'll happen. | ||
| Trump's definitely taking the gloves off with things like federalizing DC. | ||
| Yeah, right on, right on. | ||
| We should have pride in our nation's capital. | ||
| I don't think that homeless people are to be punished, but there's been a general breakdown in civility and an understanding of the rule of law. | ||
| You know, for anything. | ||
| Well, they take advantage and the NGOs that run the homeless make money on it. | ||
| They have like barbecue pits out and they're just injecting drugs right in front of everybody and breaking into our houses. | ||
| Austin has been turned into a hellhole by these people. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I've heard you talk about it. | ||
| What about our rights? | ||
| I used to come to Austin to see the Grateful Dead whenever they played here. | ||
| Loved it, got great and Austin was such a jewel. | ||
| I'm talking decades ago. | ||
| And even ten years ago I came here to see it. | ||
| It all changed six years ago. | ||
| The NGOs for all the homeless to come here and now it's like an open toilet. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, one of the things about Alex is like consistency. | ||
| And you never hear him complaining about this kind of stuff six years, seven years ago. | ||
| Like, before that, he was totally chill. | ||
| That is not true. | ||
| He's a piece of shit. | ||
| They have barbecue pits. | ||
| Why does it happen? | ||
| It just happens to everybody. | ||
| Like, every man turns into some form of this piece of shit at some point. | ||
| Like, like, it's when I was younger, it was kinda cool to grow up in a dangerous place. | ||
| You know, like you had you had something cool going on. | ||
| And then later on when you were out of that dangerous place, you could be like, I grew up in a dangerous place. | ||
| Don't fucking treat me like I'm from the suburbs, you know? | ||
| But you live in the suburbs. | ||
| And then you become Alex Jones being like, there's too many homeseless people in the suburbs. | ||
| Like, just stop it. | ||
| Give them a place to live or something, but just don't be an old man that bitches about it all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that the mentality that they're approaching this with is so fraudulent because Patrick's like, I don't want the people to be punished, but everything about society is punishing them right now. | ||
| And you want it to be worse on top of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A large portion of what they're experiencing is societal punishment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the way you solve this is definitely not taking away their barbecue pit or whatever. | ||
| There is a path that involves alleviating this, reducing harm in hopes of reintegrating, getting people stability. | ||
| Just that, just that idea, just that idea of like, oh, there's a schizophrenic in my backyard and I want them to be punished. | ||
| Like, at no point in time do you think like, oh, this is a person with a disease who needs treatment. | ||
| But what's fascinating about that is out of the other side of his mouth, Alex is pretending that Trump is trying to get medical help from drug users. | ||
| And it can't possibly be a police state if he's trying to do that, it's nonsense. | ||
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You know, like, I don't want to help people, but I don't want them to feel good. | |
| It's a pretend empathetic approach. | ||
| And what's really behind it is a desire to see these people who are in vulnerable positions and have essentially no power in society be crushed and just taken out of his view. | ||
| I don't want to see this. | ||
| But it's not even that. | ||
| It's even more fucked up than that. | ||
| Because if you were to just provide an actual fucking solution of like, hey, we got empty places. | ||
| We're going to put them there. | ||
| We're just going to get them out of out of your you were mad that you see them. | ||
| So now they have a place to live. | ||
| Bad socialism. | ||
| They'd be like, no, that's not fair that they have a place to live. | ||
| And it's like, so handouts. | ||
| So you just want to view people in a worse situation than you. | ||
| And then whenever things get worse, you want them to be even worse off than you are. | ||
| Yeah, as an excuse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| So we got one last clip here because after he talks to Patrick Byrne, he has his gold sponsor in, and this episode seems like a lot of paid programming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I thought that Patrick Byrne admitted to something that Alex should be really worried about in this clip. | ||
| Continuing to love a Russian spot. | ||
| This stuff is finally happening, so I don't want to jinx it. | ||
| It's finally happening as it should. | ||
| It should have happened, I thought, january 21. | ||
| I thought, on january 20, Flynn said jokingly, he said, you know, Trump's going to have you, well, parachute into the mall as he's giving his inauguration speech for certain things I did that are not out yet. | ||
| I knew that was an exaggeration, but I thought on january 20 I'd start getting some help. | ||
| You can't believe, on january 21, I was bouncing around on the roof of a catamaran off Bahamas in a terrible storm because I was setting up to smuggle some people into the United States. | ||
| I got no help until about march 10 because there are so many people within the government. | ||
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What do you do? | |
| You do. | ||
| I don't think Trump is doing. | ||
| I wish Trump would replace at least the top 1500 with, you know, there's all kinds of millions. | ||
| Yeah, we need a real purge. | ||
| Yeah, there's people from the Green Berets who go on to Wall Street, they learn Wall Street and such, they learn finance, let them come and staff the Treasury building. | ||
| Let us reestaff the top of the government out of the Green Berets. | ||
| Yeah, let's be clear, we already have a globalist coup. | ||
| We're not going to fix it playing Patty Cake. | ||
| Hey bro, are you a human trafficker? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| Yeah, did you just I was about to smuggle some people into the United States and I didn't have any help? | ||
| For obvious reasons. | ||
| How is that? | ||
| Why would you expect help when smuggling people into the United States? | ||
| Why would you expect help from the United States when smuggling people into the United States? | ||
| I understand that there are, you know, some people, uh, you know, there are circumstances where it's like refugees or something. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Maybe you can make an argument for why it's not a, you know, hideously immoral act. | ||
| Whatever you like. | ||
| To smuggle people. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But it is still human trafficking. | ||
| It's still the movement of people illegally. | ||
| That's how it works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you talking about, Bern? | ||
| What are you a coyote? | ||
| A catamaran coyote. | ||
| Is he out here? | ||
| What? | ||
| How did you find yourself in this situation? | ||
| Okay, so here I was trying to smuggle people. | ||
| people in. | ||
| I had an idea for over stock dot com. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Shit got way out of hand. | ||
| He got way out of hand. | ||
| I'm in love with a Russian spy. | ||
| Then I'm smuggling people in. | ||
| She didn't love me. | ||
| And what I want is for the Green Berets who went to Wall Street to rule the world. | ||
| All they have to do is read a book. | ||
| Why not send the Wall Street people to Green Beret School? | ||
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| Probably because they'd die. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, I thought that was really silly and Alex, if he was paying any attention, should have been like, Hey man, what did you just admit to me? | ||
| How can you just say that and not get any follow-up questions about that?. | ||
| What did you just, I'm sorry, this whole show is over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You and me, you're smuggling people in. | ||
| Why? | ||
| How? | ||
| Who hired you? | ||
| Are you hired? | ||
| Do you do this for free? | ||
| Where are you from? | ||
| Is this check going to clear? | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So yeah, I thought that was silly, and then the fact that it all just kind of pivots into like, yeah, you know what, the military should be in charge of the government is crazy. | ||
| Trump's actions in DC are totally fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex wants to purge the government and replace them with military. | ||
| Everything's going great. | ||
| And he wants to invade Mexico. | ||
| This is just insane. | ||
| It doesn't sound at all like 1930s Italy. | ||
| This is not no, nothing at all like that. | ||
| It's just like what I come back to over and over again is like trying to find the words that articulate how much this is comical for it to be what Alex is doing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I can't figure out how to just say what is self evident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyone who's ever paid attention to what his career means and what it's built on Yeah. | ||
| this is comical for it to be what Alex is doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I, I can't figure out how to just say what is self evident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anybody who's ever paid attention to what his career means and what it's built on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would see this and be like, this is a farce. | ||
| It, it, it, let's, There can't be any hyperbole about a situation that is as extremely itself as it's possible to be. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like you can't be like, oh, this would be like if Alex said that it was okay to be in a police state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because this is Alex saying it's okay to be in a police state. | ||
| Like, what else is there to say? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I will see. | ||
| Here's what there is to say. | ||
| You can learn something from anyone. | ||
| And what we've learned today is that if you're going to try and drown someone, practice in a pool first. | ||
| That's a good piece of advice. | ||
| Can I be honest with you? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I really pictured him in a kiddy pool. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| Here's my imagination, right? | ||
| Because I know he's a rich guy. | ||
| So my imagination is he's basically got an Olympic sized pool in like his back yard and he's got a guy, he's like, hey buddy, let's go swim together. | ||
| And they're going for a long swim. | ||
| And yeah, and the big guy starts getting tired and he's like, now I got him. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And he jumps on and then the guy realizes that he can stand up in the water. | ||
| Yeah, I picture Burn as a bit of a cartoon character. | ||
| I see that. | ||
| And so my mind went to him and a big guy in a kiddy pool and then wrestling with a kid that's fucking hard. | ||
| Yeah, that works. | ||
| Wearing like a propeller beam. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| I think he is a tremendous shithead. | ||
| But he has the potential to have some swings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like there's an energy that we've missed of the I was planning to murder Epstein is the best way to start any conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's another clip in here that I didn't cut out where he was explaining why the Venezuelan government has a bounty out on him. | ||
| And so, like, he has big stories like Steve. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, I love it. | ||
| I want more of that energy. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| More of the fake butter. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| We're getting back into shape. | ||
| So I was out here. | ||
| I was going to murder Epstein. | ||
| I had this whole huge plan. | ||
| And then I tried it out and it's hard to That's amazing. | ||
| That's just amazing. | ||
| Again, it was the camera. | ||
| So amazing. | ||
| So incredible. | ||
| The cameras. | ||
| The cameras. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So we'll be back and see how Alex gets more and more acquainted with and falling in love with a police date. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight dot com. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the mysterious professor. | ||
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo. | |
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| So Alex, I'm my first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |