In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to watch Alex Jones defend Trump taking over DC and try his best to pretend that it's totally not a police state move, while he also advocates for the military taking over the civilian government.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys. | ||
| Shang me are the bad guys. | ||
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| Dan and Jordan. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| I need money. | ||
| Riddler. | ||
| Andy and Pansy. | ||
| Andy and Pandy. | ||
| Andy and Pansy. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
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Andy. | |
| Andy. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding it. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a fifth pin caller over here saying I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to another fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes. | ||
| Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan, Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| My bright spot is... | ||
| Oh, I'll tell you what my bright spot is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was playing some tennis and my racket broke. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| You hit it too hard. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It was bad. | ||
| It just, one of the strings broke. | ||
| But here's what the bright spot about that is. | ||
| I was playing like dog shit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was absolute garbage. | ||
| And then the string broke and it was like, ah, no wonder I was playing so poorly. | ||
| Oh, I thought you were going to say that it gave you an excuse to stop playing because you were so bad. | ||
| You're like, oh, racket's broken. | ||
| Can't play anymore. | ||
| No, we got a replacement racket that worked. | ||
| I started playing a lot better because it worked. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So I can, you know, you can just restring it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You don't have to be like, I feel bad for being a bad person. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Your bright spot is having an excuse. | ||
| My bright spot is having something to fix that isn't my own self-esteem. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| See, I go the entirely opposite direction with this. | ||
| If I'm ever playing a sport and the equipment breaks, it's because I'm too good. | ||
| I hit it too hard. | ||
| Too hard. | ||
| I just, the angle was too right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I just, I broke it. | ||
| See, the problem there is that it's very easy to access people who can hit the ball significantly harder than me. | ||
| Right, but not exactly right. | ||
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Ah, that's fair. | |
| It's like the one-inch punch kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, your swing was, look, anyone could break a backboard with a slam dunk. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| In theory. | ||
| Is this like a million monkeys with a million typewriters could break a backboard situation? | ||
| I am now setting out to break a backboard to prove this thesis. | ||
| So I have to sabotage a backboard is what you're saying. | ||
| I would appreciate it if you did meddle with a backboard in advance of me trying to. | ||
| Okay, okay, good. | ||
| I will not call it sabotage. | ||
| We'll call it rearranging. | ||
| I'm just saying that I think the glass half-full version of this is that you were too good that you broke a record. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| I'll take it. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like having a glass full. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| So our friend, friend of the show and old buddy Daniel Shar, he's doing his New Year's Sex for Work one-man show out in New York and East Hampton, Massachusetts. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| In early September. | ||
| And I wanted to give a plug for that. | ||
| Tell people if they're in the area and they want tickets, they should go get them and go check out his fun one-man show full of filth and heart. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| It was really, really good. | ||
| I highly recommend it. | ||
| Yeah, people can find tickets to that at DanielShar.com. | ||
| S-H-A-R. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So I'd recommend if you want to have a nice time out with something a little bit off, a little blue, but not that blue. | ||
| I mean, in a way, it's the type of blue that is like, yeah, you could say that a clinical picture of a naked body is blue, but it's to transform like sex into just an observational thing as opposed to being a turn-on thing or something like that. | ||
| You know, like you're an adult. | ||
| You've seen that shit. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Deal with it. | ||
| We all watch it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So anyway, that's going on. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Check it out. | ||
| Yeah, you should. | ||
| So today, Jordan, we have something less fun to check out. | ||
| That is an episode of Alex's show. | ||
| We're going to be talking about August 11th, 2025. | ||
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All right. | |
| The day that Trump sent troops into DC. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Right. | |
| All right. | ||
| Martial law. | ||
| One might think. | ||
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Well. | |
| Hey, you know, it looks like a duck. | ||
| It looks very martial law-y. | ||
| Quacks like a duck? | ||
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Sure. | |
| That shit's not a duck. | ||
| Anyway, we'll talk about Alex's response to this and how invalidating it is of everything. | ||
| Everything you're supposed to do. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| So, first, think globalist-y, act low-key. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're an outpalzuwonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, congratulations to Haley and Joe on your engagement. | ||
| And thank you for letting me be your maid of honor. | ||
| I love you both tons. | ||
| Thank you so much, Jerana. | ||
| Palzuonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And these fucking serials are trying to be Jacks of All Trade, and it's just not working. | ||
| I'm not mad at the Tiger. | ||
| We're going to rebroadcast. | ||
| Play one of the old Project Analog episodes. | ||
| Thank you so much, Jernal Paulzuonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much. | |
| And we got a technical edit in the mix. | ||
| So thank you so much to in episode 12 at the one-hour 50-minute mark. | ||
| Dan swears that if they, quote, get enough donations to this show where we can quit our jobs, I will legally change my name to Scatman Dan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser, little, little kitty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So that, I mean, look, this is fair. | |
| This has been pointed out to me a number of times. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And here's my blanket response that I'm going to give now. | ||
| I don't fuck with the government. | ||
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I'm not going to legally change my paperwork. | |
| There is no law. | ||
| So I might want to try and make a compromise on this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like maybe get a Scat Dan tattoo or something like that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But I don't want to go through the paperwork of legally changing my name. | ||
| But I do feel like no one was listening then. | ||
| I mean, it's good to be reminded that we have and had humble dreams. | ||
| Back then, no one was listening. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| There were like five listeners, maybe. | ||
| It was a comical idea that anyone would ever listen to this show. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And so I did make that kind of a declaration. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I feel like I should follow through in some way, but I'm not changing my name. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Not doing paperwork. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Tattoo, maybe? | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| You can change your name in spirit at any point in time. | ||
| The problem is, I don't know how to change your name legally. | ||
| Maybe I can get. | ||
| And then you got to get a new ID. | ||
| I could get a tattoo of the Scatman or just his mustache. | ||
| I don't think you wanted that. | ||
| I could see the mustache works. | ||
| I don't think you want the. | ||
| A mustache and his hat. | ||
| Like just a nice little silhouette kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, I like that. | ||
| Or workshop something. | ||
| But yeah, consider this address. | ||
| You are the scatman. | ||
| Yes, you are the scat man. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Jordan, I wanted to do a little something different today. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But we're not going to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What I wanted to do was I noticed that around this time, at the beginning of August, Alex made good on one of his threats, which was that he was going to start having more shows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was going to do more. | ||
| We're going to go 24 hours. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's not going 24 hours, but he's building up the roster of shows. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so there's a new show that he's doing called Good Morning Info Wars. | ||
| You are joking. | ||
| But it's not him who's hosting it. | ||
| It's someone named like Brianna Morello. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Who I think did a book about how attractive Melania is. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I think she did like a picture book of. | ||
| Give her a show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I watched it and I thought it was unviewable. | ||
| There was no Riz. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No juice, just nothing. | ||
| It was an awful, awful. | ||
| It didn't even have like a. | ||
| You hear Good Morning Info Wars. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a Saturday morning show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're expecting someone maybe sitting around drinking a cup of coffee. | ||
| Do a Good Morning America ripoff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's not that. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's just someone staring into a webcam and talking about all the same stuff that they talk about on InfoWalk. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| At the very least, get a cup of coffee and like a thing. | ||
| Like, all morning shows suck, but they suck in the right way. | ||
| Everybody likes it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's what you do. | |
| It's comforting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're like, it's breezy out. | ||
| Oh, we've got. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Ooh, we're going to have Kid Rock dropping by to give us a brisket recipe. | ||
| Of course I'll. | ||
| There's no reason for you not to have Kid Rock give you a brisket recipe. | ||
| Yeah, so I was hoping we would cover that, but instead, I'm just mentioning it and it's trash. | ||
| That would be, it would be so much more fun if you could force the square pegs into the round holes, like her and Alex doing like they're sitting on the director's chairs thing. | ||
| They're doing a whole thing. | ||
| But I say you even just don't involve Alex. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Just do this as, you know, how, okay. | ||
| Someone explained to me that one of the things that Marvel could do but isn't doing as well as it could is just do genre. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You know, like have one of your characters, this is a mystery movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One of your characters, this is a shoot-'em-up movie. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, you can fit those, like, all these Marvel superheroes into different types of film. | ||
| Yeah, George Lucas fits Space Guys into a Kurosawa film. | ||
| It'll be fine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But under the umbrella of Marvel, you could have every sort of movie covered in different tendrils. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what InfoWars should do. | ||
| Like, this should be Good Morning America, but just also. | ||
| Just Infowars-y. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to, I just want to force one of these people to try and be Regis. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| Because there's been a gigantic Regis hole. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| We feel it in the ethersphere at all times. | ||
| And it's just like, what if Regis was also fucking crazy? | ||
| Ah, you got to watch. | ||
| James Woods, maybe get James Woods to be Regis on InfoWars? | ||
| I don't know if he's animated enough. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, that could be a problem. | ||
| You got to get somebody with more in-your-face juice. | ||
| John Voigt. | ||
| I'm just trying to think who they got. | ||
| Kevin Sorbo? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| There's a very low ability to bring out a Regis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we start to, instead of covering that morning show, we're talking about the 11th, August 11th. | ||
| And look, Trump has decided that he's covering up the Epstein stuff and he bombed Iran and clearly is just a real piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like, you got to kind of, you got to like him. | ||
| I know it's fashionable to say that Trump is totally screwing over America and gone back on his promises and is a total puppet of Israel on and on and on. | ||
| And certainly I've had some legitimate criticism of some of the directions he's taken. | ||
| I support everybody's right to free speech. | ||
| But I got to tell you, if you actually look at what he's doing domestically and geopolitically, it is spectacularly good for this country and he is really going to bat. | ||
| For not just the American people, but the people of the world. | ||
| If you listen to Alex's show, you start to notice that he keeps calling certain positions fashionable or avant-garde. | ||
| You might think that he's talking about whatever is popular on Twitter that day, but if you pay attention, it's pretty much always in reference to the position that Nick Fuentes is putting out. | ||
| Whether it's the result he wanted to come about or not, Alex is in a situation where he's lost any real relevance in the media space where he used to be the king. | ||
| He used to be fashionable and avant-garde, and now the next generation has made him irrelevant. | ||
| Nick is unburdened by the need to defend Trump. | ||
| He doesn't owe people a billion dollars for lying about them, and he's half Alex's age. | ||
| Nick is legitimately the biggest threat to Alex's entire thing right now, mostly because he's not attacking Alex. | ||
| By putting on a friendly face, he's offering the audience an off-ramp that provides an answer for all the cognitive dissonance that Alex's show is creating. | ||
| We're supposed to be anti-war folks, but now we want to invade Mexico. | ||
| We're the anti-Epstein folks, but we're supposed to just move on from Trump's cover-up of that. | ||
| We're the anti-police state people, but Alex wants us to accept Trump taking over DC and putting feds on the street. | ||
| Nick has answers for all of that, whereas Alex just has excuses and spin. | ||
| This media space relies on antagonism and having an other to point to and say, I'm better than them. | ||
| For years, the mainstream media worked as this foil, and Alex could brand himself as the truth-based alternative to outlets like CNN. | ||
| But now the right-wing media has become so insulated and in another world that it means nothing to compare yourself to CNN. | ||
| The thing is, you know, these models work, and this antagonism model works. | ||
| So it's just kind of being recreated with other players assuming different roles. | ||
| In the past, InfoWars was this insurgent avant-garde option standing against the mainstream media. | ||
| And now Infowars is basically their version of mainstream media. | ||
| It's boring, repetitive, outdated, and is full of voices that are in favor of upholding the power structure. | ||
| Nick is the InfoWars of the moment, but it's not because of anything that Nick did or didn't do or any credibility or value that he has. | ||
| This dynamic has evolved because Alex was full of shit the whole time. | ||
| If Alex and Infowars had done their job and actually been an avant-garde voice opposing the mainstream media, then he wouldn't have become a Trump sycophant and he wouldn't have put himself in a position where he'd be getting alpha by a young Nazi like Nick. | ||
| He would have been able to maintain his cutting-edgeness. | ||
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| Due to an excessive fealty to Trump and a tragic friendship with Roger Stone, Alex has entirely lost the plot on what his career was supposed to be about. | ||
| And the timing just couldn't be worse. | ||
| The courts have given a green light to liquidating his assets, so he needs to move his customers over to the new fake company fast. | ||
| But it feels like a lot of them just might use this crash out as a reason to explore new avant-garde options like ones Alex is presenting them with. | ||
| I think I don't, it's so hard to know whether or not there's like an intentionality to it, but he's acting exactly in the same way that you would if you were intentionally just trying to funnel your audience to more extreme shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it's like if you're if you're looking at where Alex exists, it's it's something like he took a job opening whenever he first started. | ||
| It's not like he created this space, he walked into a space that was created for him. | ||
| If the media were blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, then this space wouldn't exist. | ||
| And the same thing is happening with Nick. | ||
| He's creating the space for Nick to exist by not existing in that space. | ||
| He's created this wall of like, oh, well, Nick can be here, but I can't go there. | ||
| Here's where Nick is, but I can't be in that space at all. | ||
| And so people are just going to migrate there as he gets smaller and smaller and smaller. | ||
| Yeah, and a lot of that getting smaller and smaller is self-imposed. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's the same way that like Trump's handling of the Epstein stuff is shooting himself in the foot. | ||
| Alex behaving this way around these issues in the presence of and while interacting with someone like Nick is shooting himself in the foot. | ||
| He's just making himself clearly appear to be the false full of shit opposite. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And that's you couldn't ask for better if you're Nick. | ||
| Which is weird because it's like, man, just fucking take Nick's shit. | ||
| I hate the Jews. | ||
| Just move on. | ||
| You know, what are you doing? | ||
| I think he's afraid. | ||
| I mean, absolutely he's afraid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is like, that's why you lose in this game of all games. | ||
| The whole thing is just fear nothing. | ||
| Is what I'm saying racist? | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Is it stupid? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Is it a lie? | ||
| Why wouldn't it be? | ||
| And yet I still have the confidence to say it to your face. | ||
| I think too much of his career has been spent in a time where there would be real social and financial consequences to being a David Duke type. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| David Duke suffered a lot of consequences that Alex was able to avoid, largely. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I think that I don't think he can. | ||
| The winds are changing, yeah. | ||
| So, you know, Trump, Trump's going after people. | ||
| He's going to indict everybody. | ||
| And look, I know that a lot of people thought that was going to happen in the first term, but if you think about it, Alex really never said that was going to happen. | ||
| A lot of you have been listening for 10, 20, 30 years. | ||
| Most of you for years. | ||
| You've heard me tell you that there was not going to be any indictments of the deep state in the first Trump administration because I knew that Sessions was weak. | ||
| I knew Barr was ultra-bad. | ||
| And I understood who the players were and who they had at the head of the FBI. | ||
| And Trump's admitted he wasn't very sophisticated on how Washington works because he was not an insider. | ||
| And so he's learned a lot. | ||
| So this is a fun little rewriting of history. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| In the lead up to the 2016 election, Jeff Sessions was one of the first people in Congress to support Trump's candidacy. | ||
| And that made him a darling of the media surrogates like Roger Stone. | ||
| Early on, Roger was coming on Infowars to promote the idea of Sessions being Trump's VP, and everyone loved the dude. | ||
| He was a guy with principle, which is what the globalists feared the most. | ||
| On November 18th, 2016, Alex said, quote, he's now announced that his attorney general, should he be confirmed by the Senate, Senator Jeff Sessions, that's going to happen. | ||
| Very honorable man. | ||
| Could not think of a better choice. | ||
| That guy does not deal in politics when it comes to justice. | ||
| People better look out. | ||
| And let me tell you, Hillary is going to be in big trouble. | ||
| Jeff Sessions never compromises, never backs down, and is one of the best people we've got in our government. | ||
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You shouldn't be allowed to go back and listen. | |
| Sessions got into office and then recused himself from the Russian election interference investigation, which turned all of the right-wing media folks against him. | ||
| They voted for Trump so he would be irresponsible with power the way they liked. | ||
| So his attorney general making a move like this was just the definition of weak. | ||
| And so the story became that they didn't ever think that Sessions was going to get things done in the first place. | ||
| Alex is a little closer to right about his take about William Barr, but that was a no-brainer. | ||
| Barr was in the Bush administration and had been involved in Iran-Contra. | ||
| So he was a figure that entered the scene with some baggage. | ||
| Infowars took a much more I don't know about this type approach to his appointment, but they did still keep hope alive that Barr was going to get some indictments going. | ||
| They tried to rationalize that the only reason Trump would appoint someone like Barr is because Barr is a closer and he knows how to get results. | ||
| He knows where the bodies are buried. | ||
| I mean, I thought it was because he was a cover-upper famously covering up things. | ||
| I mean, potato. | ||
| No, that's fair. | ||
| Potato. | ||
| I'll give Alex a pass about not promising that Barr would lock up all their enemies, but he's absolutely lying about not saying that Sessions was going to do that. | ||
| And the only reason you do this is because you want that this time I'm serious energy. | ||
| No, I mean, it is, it is like, I think if I boil down what the general vibe is for me, it's like, I have watched Trump run for president for the past decade, and now I'm watching him be the president, and everybody's going, well, this was a huge mistake. | ||
| We should never have allowed that. | ||
| We liked it when he was running for president. | ||
| He made us feel like something was going to happen. | ||
| What he's doing is horrible. | ||
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| Yeah, it should be seen as pretty universally horrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, everybody, like, I can't wait for him to demand everyone be vaccinated and the right wing too. | ||
| Like, you know what? | ||
| When you think about what he's done with the border. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe we got to go with him on this one. | ||
| Here's what we do, all right? | ||
| Hypnosis. | ||
| I think that would work. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or just, you know, make him fall asleep a lot. | ||
| I mean, he's old. | ||
| Yeah, that should work. | ||
| He's probably fairly tired. | ||
| Somebody else handle it. | ||
| So Alex talks a little bit about the Trump-Putin summit that's happening in Alaska, which Trump keeps calling Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's fun. | ||
| That is fun. | ||
| Alex is like, this is the problem with Ukraine is solved. | ||
| Now, there's also huge news on the Ukraine warfront, the biggest yet. | ||
| And it just confirms exactly what I said because I've followed Trump's policies. | ||
| I've followed his dealmaking. | ||
| I've followed what he said. | ||
| People sit back and don't listen to it. | ||
| If Zelensky doesn't take this deal that's already been done, it's already agreed to. | ||
| He's going to formalize it Friday in Alaska with Putin and Trump. | ||
| Trump is going to cut off all the military funds, all the intelligence. | ||
| That's the direction of the missiles and the weapons. | ||
| We run that. | ||
| We run the war. | ||
| And Putin is then going to just continue to blow the living hell out of the Ukrainian military. | ||
| And there will be a coup by Zelensky's generals against him. | ||
| One of the top generals, we already know the name, will be made the interim president. | ||
| They will then hold elections. | ||
| There will be a ceasefire before the elections. | ||
| And then the Russians will pull back. | ||
| And that's the deal. | ||
| So Alex is solidly in favor of forced regime change in Ukraine, which isn't a surprise or anything, but it's so out of line with who he's supposed to be. | ||
| Staying out of a war is a reasonable position for him to have on the basis of like non-interventionism. | ||
| But what he's advocating for is Trump choosing a winner of the war. | ||
| Incidentally, the Trump-Putin summit in Alaska ended with no agreement about what to do in Ukraine and resulted in Trump saying that if they don't knock it off, he'll probably put more sanctions on Russia. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| That threat came after Russia bombed a U.S.-owned factory in Ukraine that produced consumer electronics and had no connection to weapons or the war effort or anything. | ||
| What are they going to do? | ||
| Trump did not solve this war with that summit. | ||
| And the situation Alex is describing is his fantasy of what was going to happen. | ||
| And it just strikes me the same as like the, this war will be over in 48 hours. | ||
| Zelensky works for Putin. | ||
| He's already agreed. | ||
| I mean, I just imagine myself, not as, like, I don't want to be a big player in any of this, but I imagine myself in the position of somebody who's like a fairly high up aide somewhere around, who's like calling, who's getting things together. | ||
| And at a certain point, I am like writing something down and I go, Trump and Putin are going to meet to talk about the Ukraine peace thing. | ||
| And I just go, what am I doing? | ||
| What are any of us doing? | ||
| Do you know how much money it costs to get these two idiots to this place in the middle of nowhere to do nothing? | ||
| Because of course they're not going to do anything. | ||
| What is wrong with all of us? | ||
| They appeared strong. | ||
| See? | ||
| So that's an achievement. | ||
| Is that what I do as an aide? | ||
| Is that what I am? | ||
| And there's police in D.C. What I'm trying to say is I would get out of there. | ||
| That would be my advice. | ||
| Stay in Alaska. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, it's a harsh tundra. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The snow is unforgiving. | ||
| But, hey, you'll never have the realization that everything you've ever worked for or believed in is a lie. | ||
| True. | ||
| It'll just be cold. | ||
| So, look, the summit's going to happen. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Everything's solved. | ||
| And Alex has the position that if Trump just ends this Ukraine war, that makes his presidency worth it, just on its own. | ||
| That's an interesting question. | ||
| This is huge, okay? | ||
| And if Trump can get this done, that alone is wonderful. | ||
| And it was worth getting him into office and all we've gone through. | ||
| But the RFK Jr. stuff, all of it. | ||
| And I've just been doing a lot of soul searching. | ||
| I'm very critical of Trump when he's wrong. | ||
| Get on his ass first before anybody else does. | ||
| But I cannot sit back and throw the baby out with the bathwater and just become completely disillusioned and just watch the Democrats keep all their stolen seats and keep all their legal alien voters and have the new census and add 30 new seats for themselves and just the country's done. | ||
| And then they're coming after all of us. | ||
| So we need Trump to succeed. | ||
| And I pray to God there's no real Epstein stuff there. | ||
| I've never seen any evidence of it. | ||
| Even most of his attractors don't believe that. | ||
| He's covering it up for Mossad and the CIA, who we know ran it. | ||
| That's not even debatable. | ||
| We've known that for decades. | ||
| That's just one of these groups doing this. | ||
| And I said they're going to stab me in the back, Trump. | ||
| And I was told when he first got in seven months ago, you're not going to get the Epstein stuff. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| Not going to go on. | ||
| I've talked to prosecutors. | ||
| Roger Stone told me that. | ||
| He's now said it on the show that, yes, he did say that. | ||
| And that's what it is. | ||
| So this is the bar that politicians need to clear now, apparently, for Alex. | ||
| It's fine if you actively cover up a giant child trafficking and blackmail rings, just so long as you're not involved in it yourself. | ||
| You're just doing the cover-up as a favor to the CIA and Mossad. | ||
| This shit sounds so dumb to the point where you have to wonder if Alex can even hear himself. | ||
| What conspiracy in his career couldn't be justified by saying that the people in power were covering it up as a favor to the deep state because it being revealed would be too messy. | ||
| This is supposed to be a deal breaker for someone like Alex. | ||
| And the fact that it's not should make everyone realize that the deal isn't what it appeared to be all this time. | ||
| What he's pretended to care about isn't really what matters. | ||
| And when that becomes this clear, you can see what really does matter. | ||
| And again, Alex is rewriting his own history here. | ||
| He definitely didn't say that Trump wasn't going to release the Epstein files. | ||
| And in fact, promised that as soon as Kosh Patel got in as the FBI director, they would be out day one. | ||
| He knows that his past positions destroy his current credibility. | ||
| So he's just pretending that he said something different in the past in order to be like, this is real this time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fucking garbage. | ||
| Sad. | ||
| I can't imagine. | ||
| Like, okay, here is what I thought was the bonus to being a libertarian. | ||
| Fuck your baby. | ||
| I'm going to throw this bathwater out and another baby. | ||
| That baby's not even in the bath. | ||
| I'm going to throw that baby out too. | ||
| Fuck all babies. | ||
| Even my own baby. | ||
| I don't feel obligated to feed it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what the Mies Institute was. | ||
| That's the whole thing. | ||
| That was their bread and butter was writing articles about how if you're a parent, you're not morally obligated to get your kid clothes. | ||
| It's all fucking bullshit. | ||
| Society's trash. | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| Yeah, that was the fun of libertarians. | ||
| Right? | ||
| How are you defending the government? | ||
| Well, because it's really just about power. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| And about power being directed in the ways that Alex wants, particularly those that make his white identity class feel safe. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So D.C., Trump put some troops on the streets. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Listen, I know it's awful, but also, you also have to note that a lot of those troops are like standing somewhere just going, what are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Do we have orders? | ||
| Do we like arrest people? | ||
| What do we arrest? | ||
| How do you arrest somebody? | ||
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| There's a fair amount of milling around confusedly. | ||
| We don't know what to do. | ||
| And it's totally cool. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Breaking Trump places D.C. under federal control. | ||
| Brings in National Guard to liberate capital from Democrat control. | ||
| And this is the exact same type of stuff that Andrew Jackson and others did when cities fell into total riots and lawlessness. | ||
| The Trail of Tears. | ||
| So it is not the police state. | ||
| Trump's releasing nonviolent offenders, you know, all the rest of it, reforming all sorts of drug laws, you name it. | ||
| He wants the dealers in prison for life or executed. | ||
| But the people using it, no, get them medical help. | ||
| The Democrats were the ones training under Clinton and then Obama, and it happened under Bush, too, to fight constitutional terrorists. | ||
| And their main mission, the main threat was militias and white supremacists, all this made-up stuff. | ||
| And then they get up and say, the number one crime in America, it's rampant white supremacist killing black people and Asians. | ||
| What? | ||
| So the drug people, drug users, get the medical help. | ||
| I'm sure Alex wants the government to subsidize or pay for those programs to get them that medical help. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Nah, probably not. | ||
| I mean, in a sense, medical help could include being put inside of a very small room and held against your will. | ||
| Yeah, hypothetical medical help, not actual medical help. | ||
| Yes, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So I wrote thousands of words and erased thousands of words trying to sum up how fucked up it is for Alex to have the position that he has. | ||
| But it's just self-evident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's nothing you can say descriptively. | ||
| How do you describe air? | ||
| It just, it's air. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| If you and I look at this thing and you see something different, it is not my fault. | ||
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| Alex supporting Trump taking over D.C. and his willingness to report this action as being part of, quote, liberating the city from Democrats is so far past what his definition of the police state should be that all he can really do is deny and then start ranting about how past presidents were too mean to militias and racists. | ||
| I honestly can't figure out how to say anything to add a point here other than to say that Alex has no listeners left with critical thinking skills. | ||
| They have been subject to a lot of bottlenecks in the past that have thinned out their ranks, but this isn't possible. | ||
| The only people who could possibly be left are super old, super dumb, or Nazis who just haven't gotten the message that it's time to move on from this sinking ship. | ||
| Because this is atrocious. | ||
| He, like, I don't know. | ||
| There's a lot of things that I think I have in the past said, well, this invalidates his entire career. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But, like, he's made so many films called Police State. | ||
| It's literally, I mean, it's literally a police state. | ||
| Because, one, D.C. is its own state, right? | ||
| It's not an independent state. | ||
| It's its own thing, right? | ||
| It is in totality covered by police and National Guard people. | ||
| From other states, no less. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| National Guard troops from other states who Trump has called in. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, what else is there to say? | ||
| What's weird about it? | ||
| Here's what's weird about it, right? | ||
| This feels like bad dictatoring. | ||
| Because if I'm open with what I want from, if I'm dictating, right? | ||
| I'm the bad guy. | ||
| If I'm open about what I want from these people, I'm getting the oath keepers. | ||
| I'm hiring thugs. | ||
| What I want is people to feel a general sense of terror, right? | ||
| But if I've got professional National Guardsmen who actually give a shit about what they do, they're more going to be like, how can I help you, man? | ||
| Like, that's what they do. | ||
| There might be a blend of oath keepers within. | ||
| Well, see, that's the problem with ICE, is that I think oath keepers are getting hired by the millions. | ||
| That might be. | ||
| I think if you're a dictator, you might start with this and then bring in. | ||
| You might replace them. | ||
| Sure, get people to trust the people and then replace them with thugs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| No bad dictators. | ||
| There's a lot of options. | ||
| Well, it's not an interest of mine. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| I haven't really. | ||
| I haven't thought about it too much. | ||
| So, Alex, one of the things that you notice watching this is like as he's talking about how cool it is that DC's been taken over. | ||
| It's super cool. | ||
| He can't really talk about it without drifting deep into some feelings about race. | ||
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| And so, you know, you already saw it in that last clip. | ||
| He's already drifting into like feelings about, oh, they call us white supremacists. | ||
| There's no white supremacist murders. | ||
| And he can't disentangle this. | ||
| Every once in a while, some crazy white supremacist goes and kills some innocent black people. | ||
| And man, it is the end of the world. | ||
| It's all you ever hear about. | ||
| But it is statistically incredibly rare. | ||
| I've looked the numbers up. | ||
| If you average out white supremacist killing black people over the last 20 years, it's about five black people a year. | ||
| And that's too many. | ||
| But I mean, it is like finding a four-leaf clover or something. | ||
| I mean, it is rare, rare, rare, rare, rare, rare. | ||
| But now, oh, Marshall Hall. | ||
| Oh, my gosh. | ||
| Ice, it's illegal. | ||
| They're arresting illegals. | ||
| Colonel Courtsco's completely constitutional. | ||
| And D.C. is scary. | ||
| You can see that Alex's views, he views Trump's takeover of D.C. as a racial crime-related thing, since he's trying to use the infrequency of white supremacist murders to invalidate the claim that what's happening in D.C. is the police state. | ||
| I think it's important for us to take a moment to think about what the police state means, because on some level, Alex does have a few technicalities that he can play around with here, but he shouldn't be allowed to and he shouldn't want to. | ||
| On a purely technical level, Trump taking over the Metropolitan Police Department is not illegal. | ||
| It's within the powers of the president to declare an emergency and federalize it under his authority. | ||
| And that emergency state continuing past the intended 48-hour window is totally legal because this emergency was declared when Congress was adjourned. | ||
| The idea that there's a lot of crime in D.C. is a thin excuse to declare an emergency. | ||
| But if that's what Trump considers an emergency and what Alex is willing to defend as requiring calling in the National Guard, that's their prerogative. | ||
| I strongly disagree, and I would argue against that stance. | ||
| But if that's the position they want to take, then that's where it stands. | ||
| Federalizing the D.C. police and calling in the National Guard to engage in domestic policing in D.C. is not technically illegal, but I think anyone looking at this honestly would have to say that it's an escalation of the police state. | ||
| National Guard troops and federalized police are patrolling public transit and district streets. | ||
| They've set up checkpoints in multiple locations. | ||
| They're confiscating guns and they're arresting people for petty crimes and doing immigration roundups. | ||
| This is the police state. | ||
| And if Alex wants to defend that on technicalities and pretend that local crime in D.C. is a good reason to declare an emergency requiring multiple states, National Guard forces responding, then that's on him. | ||
| He can take that stance if he wants. | ||
| It's easy for him to just say, no, this isn't the police state stuff. | ||
| But I've watched his documentaries. | ||
| There's multiple that include the title police state. | ||
| I know what he thinks about this. | ||
| Just building a big road was part of being the police state. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or like FEMA doing their job. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Alex is very stupid and really lazy. | ||
| So I often give him more benefits of the doubt than he deserves because a lot of the time, it doesn't really matter whether he's operating from a place of idiocy or malice. | ||
| The effect is the same. | ||
| He deserves zero leeway on this and should recognize that him making excuses for Trump taking over D.C. is a stain on his entire career. | ||
| This is the moment his character was made for. | ||
| If you look at the world, this is when Alex Jones, why you have one. | ||
| Well, there's a pedophile billionaire in the White House with a very small group of other pedophile billionaires who run the world. | ||
| Who's creating a fake emergency in order to militarize the police in the Capitol? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Like, this is the point of having someone, like, putting up with the negative externalities of having an Alex Jones in the world. | ||
| And because these circumstances are coming to bear, you can see how fake it was the whole time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Never meant any of it. | ||
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No. | |
| Just wanted power and white identity. | ||
| I mean, ironically, what's so funny is that he is proving true something that he's often said. | ||
| It's like, you know, if I was right, they would kill me. | ||
| If I were anything but what I am, I would be dead by now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would be on, this is the perfect time to kill me. | ||
| I'm very killable at this exact moment. | ||
| But it turns out, I'm not that scared. | ||
| It is one of the things that I hate the most. | ||
| Like throughout my life, one of the things that I hate the most is just not being willing to take responsibility for wanting to and being that guy. | ||
| Like he wants to be and be the guy who's like, eh, it's all right if he does that shit. | ||
| But he doesn't want to take responsibility for being that guy. | ||
| He doesn't want to be accountable for being that guy. | ||
| He just wants to vacation there so he can get away with this bullshit and then go back to being whatever he fuck. | ||
| I hate that shit. | ||
| I hate that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| The person that he pretends to be and wants to be is someone that has to make really, really difficult choices. | ||
| And oftentimes they go against what would be in their direct self-interest. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He does not want to make those choices that go against his own self-interest, but wants to still wear the hat. | ||
| Which is sad. | ||
| Which is like, in a gestalt sense, you are making the wrong choice. | ||
| What is the choice that's for your best interests is the choice that paradoxically looks like it's not the choice for your best interests at this moment in time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Bill Cooper dying the way he did is the right choice for him. | ||
| Even though it's horrible. | ||
| Even though it's wrong, it is the right choice. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because it completes the totality of the man. | ||
| He doesn't have to continue on in a career that will make him into what Alex is now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're defending the thing that was the devil for your whole career. | ||
| I mean, it's insane. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| It's just insane. | ||
| But D.C. is scary. | ||
| There's crime. | ||
| I've been in Detroit. | ||
| They say it's super scary. | ||
| I've been in different areas. | ||
| No, not really. | ||
| Statistically, you know, some crime. | ||
| I grew up in Dallas. | ||
| It was the murder capital of the U.S. Off and on between Chicago. | ||
| So, I mean, they had like 14 murders a day when I was a kid. | ||
| I mean, it was like, you know, muggings all over and carjackings and home invasions and not, I mean, pretty wild. | ||
| And D.C. is scarier than growing up in the Dallas in the 80s. | ||
| So, in my opinion, I mean, let me tell you, you don't go around walking around at night. | ||
| You sure as hell look over your shoulder. | ||
| And if you want to be, if you want to have some racist stuff said to you because you're white, that's the place to go. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| So, a few years back, I was seeing someone who lived in D.C., so I spent a fair amount of time there. | ||
| And I'll say that this does not match my experience of D.C., but again, you can see how much of Alex's feelings about Trump taking over D.C. has to do with his feelings about race. | ||
| He thinks that the black people in D.C. aren't nice enough to white people, so you got to call in the National Guard. | ||
| That's basically what he's saying. | ||
| I mean, you know, you eat in the same restaurant, and then here we are. | ||
| As to his point about growing up in Dallas, like, first off, there was absolutely not 14 murders a day in Dallas in the 80s. | ||
| 1988 was the year of that decade that had the highest total number of murders, and it was 366 for the whole year. | ||
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| But the question there is: would Alex have supported the National Guard coming in to police Dallas when he was a kid? | ||
| Is he expecting me to think that his John Birch Society-ass family would have been cheering on the feds, taking control of the city because crime was out of control? | ||
| No way. | ||
| Man, 14 dead a day is a lot, though. | ||
| But it's not real. | ||
| No, I understand it's not real, but that would be maybe crazy enough that you're like, whatever's going on right now is not working. | ||
| You know, sure. | ||
| That's so many. | ||
| It is a lot. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| It's quite a few. | ||
| Again, hypothetical because none of this was happening. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, of course, it would be insane to do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I also think that, you know, it's hard to wrap your mind around numbers because of the vastness of cities. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| But 14 would still be pretty high. | ||
| 14. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Almost 3,000, 5,000 people a year? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In a city like Dallas? | ||
| You know somebody who's been murdered this year, if that's who you are. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, it has affected you. | ||
| You're one out of eight people who know somebody who's been murdered. | ||
| That's the statistics on that, right? | ||
| Almost like COVID. | ||
| Yeah, everybody would be like, Jesus Christ, there's so many fucking murders. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex thinks that this is going to work. | ||
| I mean, work to do what? | ||
| What is the goal, though? | ||
| Scare homeless people. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| No, instead, they're out actually aiding the police, eyes and ears. | ||
| And just their presence is going to make crime drop dramatically. | ||
| And Trump told the homeless, the city isn't here for you. | ||
| We're not rolling out the red carpet anymore. | ||
| And most cities do that. | ||
| Places like Austin, San Francisco, and D.C. advertise it's the place to come. | ||
| And so it's like Day of the Dead in Austin, Texas, since they did this six years ago. | ||
| Day of the dead. | ||
| All over the place. | ||
| Homeless people constantly in my parents' backyard, banging on my daughter's condo door, trying to get in all the time. | ||
| It's not even a bad area. | ||
| It used to be a nice area. | ||
| And now it's like zombie land. | ||
| And Hispanic homeless, black homeless, white homeless, all have been in my parents' backyard. | ||
| High as kites, crapping, throwing garbage everywhere. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You get a schizophrenic one who comes up to your door, looks like Charlie Manson with crap running down their legs, and all the NGOs giving them all the money. | ||
| So I guess Alex thinks that the feds should come take over Austin, too, then, right? | ||
| I mean, like, what he's describing is like, this is out of control. | ||
| That's what you need the National Guard for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's too many scary unhoused people around. | ||
| So you got to get troops on the street bothering everyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a real, cool, libertarian, cool, small government, anti-federal, states' rights kind of dude. | ||
| Because it's like, it's not like the Metropolitan Police Department isn't armed equally as well as the National Guard. | ||
| Like, they've got, they're outfitted. | ||
| They've got tanks and shit. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, that's a lot of the police state stuff that Alex used to be quite critical of. | ||
| We're all very unhappy that the military sold all of their useless war of Iraq shit to all of our cops, right? | ||
| Because now they have a lot of weapons. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, like, what are you guys up to, man? | ||
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What are you going to do? | |
| What do you got? | ||
| Like, what are you going to do? | ||
| But, like, seriously, as a, as an ultimate, okay, how about this? | ||
| How about we do this? | ||
| We make a bet, right? | ||
| Like, we're going to just let you do this shit. | ||
| You do the National Guard shit. | ||
| I don't give a shit about the law. | ||
| Do the National Guard shit for a year. | ||
| We study it. | ||
| Everything is perfectly mapped out. | ||
| And if it works, then it's fine. | ||
| But if it doesn't work, we can never do it again. | ||
| Well, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I think you'd run into everyone bickering about what the stats are, what they mean. | ||
| I think you would end up with kind of maybe an unfortunately meaningless data set that wouldn't tell you if this actually achieved whatever goal you want it to or not. | ||
| An argument could be made in both directions, probably based on whatever the results are. | ||
| It'll have to be me. | ||
| You can't do it anymore. | ||
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Ever. | |
| Okay, there we go. | ||
| This also might be dicey. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| So I just think that Alex just wants poor people to be rounded up. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| At least we're spending money on them somehow. | ||
| Now, admittedly, it's not helping them. | ||
| It's paying somebody else to hurt them. | ||
| But we are investing in our population if you think about it. | ||
| That's a very optimistic view. | ||
| See, I'm an optimistic guy. | ||
| So, look, there's tyranny in the world. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But what about the tyranny of crime? | ||
| Maybe we need someone to free us from the tyranny of crime. | ||
| I think it's possible. | ||
| I think it's impossible to be crime tyranny because the law is the tyranny. | ||
| No, not anymore. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Crime is the tyranny, and Trump is going to say it. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| In LA and places, the cops get in trouble if they arrest people dealing drugs. | ||
| And it's got like that in Austin with Jose Garza, our open communist Soros DA. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| No, no, the tyranny is the crime explosion. | ||
| And our reporter getting executed by some Mexican and a black supremacist who all bragged about it. | ||
| We killed that white son of a bitch. | ||
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Ha ha ha. | |
| Evil La Raza, kill the cracker. | ||
| It's in the indictment. | ||
| Carjackings all the time right around the studio. | ||
| Six years ago, almost no crime. | ||
| Nice area. | ||
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Hellhole. | |
| And the state police aren't trained right when the governor put them in. | ||
| They just write tickets. | ||
| They're real good at, you know, well, you do her five miles over the speed limit. | ||
| Let's pull you over. | ||
| And I'm just like, I'm going to give you a warning, Alex. | ||
| But I'm like, can't you go? | ||
| They're selling crack a mile down the road right here. | ||
| I know. | ||
| We're just here to patrol. | ||
| We pull over a lot of cars. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| We caught some people. | ||
| We pull them over. | ||
| I'm like, great. | ||
| Thanks a lot, man. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, come on. | ||
| You got literal crack heads up 50 yards away, actually, in the woods. | ||
| And you're going to pull me over five miles over the speed limit. | ||
| Okay, whatever. | ||
| Knock yourself out. | ||
| So, yeah, we're just showing some images of Austin. | ||
| So thank God for Trump. | ||
| And he's doing the right thing, and it's beautiful. | ||
| And it's all constitutional. | ||
| Here's what he had to say today. | ||
| Very serious purpose. | ||
| Something's out of control, but we're going to put it in control very quickly, like we did on the southern border. | ||
| I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor, and worse. | ||
| So one of the people arrested for killing Alex's reporter, Jamie White, did record a song that mentioned killing that white guy. | ||
| But because it's Jamie White's last name, it's very difficult to tell if they were referencing his skin color or his name. | ||
| Alex has naturally taken it as a racial attack because that's how he experiences everything to the point where I guess Mexican supremacists and black supremacists were working together to kill his employee. | ||
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| It's bridging a gap. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's nice to see people working together. | ||
| Overcoming their differences. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's kind of an inspiring story if you think about it. | ||
| So we can tell from Alex's actions that police state stuff really isn't that important to him. | ||
| Because if it were, this would be a bridge that he just couldn't cross. | ||
| Fill in the blank with whatever explanation you want. | ||
| But the bottom line is that if he ever really cared about this stuff from a principle standpoint, his behavior would be different now. | ||
| From that data point, it's helpful to go back and see what insight you can have about other positions that he used to push around this stuff. | ||
| If Alex really never cared that much about police state stuff and federalizing of the National Guard, then what was actually, what was he actually mad about? | ||
| What were the actual positions that he was trying to hide behind that facade of police state outrage? | ||
| Spoiler alert, it was mostly just racism and attacking public spending to protect the wealth of the elites. | ||
| That's basically what all of this was a mask for. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's no other way to say it, but if ever there was going to be a universal, like, well, January 6th wasn't that bad of an idea, it's got to be now. | ||
| Like, there's, it's a police state in D.C. What do you want? | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| No. | ||
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You know, whatever argument you want to have, what do you want? | |
| The real police state was Trump not winning in 2020. | ||
| That you, hey, if that's what you want to say, that's fine. | ||
| But do you know what that also includes? | ||
| This right now. | ||
| That it still includes this right now. | ||
| Trump is going to save us from the tyranny of crime. | ||
| But that's what I'm saying. | ||
| But even then, it still includes this right now. | ||
| So all of the things that made you do January 6th, right, are now, but more. | ||
| Right, but also let's take a little moment to step back and realize that the reasons they did January 6th aren't what you're... | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, okay. | ||
| I don't think they were telling the truth. | ||
| No, I think they might not have been on the level. | ||
| I think they might not have been on the level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Almost like all these fucks are liars. | ||
| Oh, my. | ||
| Anyway, Trump talks here a little bit. | ||
| He's giving his announcement. | ||
| And I like that he says that the Capitol has been taken over by wild youths. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Our capital city has been overtaken by violent gangs and bloodthirsty criminals, roving mobs of wild youth, drugged out maniacs and homeless people. | ||
| And we're not going to let it happen anymore. | ||
| We're not going to take it. | ||
| Yeah, I live in a pretty good part of Austin. | ||
| And I drive to work sometimes at 5, 6 in the morning. | ||
| And there'll just be people running half naked with baseball bats just across the highway. | ||
| Warriors. | ||
| And then I'll be able to get a lot of money. | ||
| Come out and then. | ||
| And I mean, I've seen people running around like machetes, baseball bats, just attacking each other on the side of the road. | ||
| And I mean, some mornings when I guess they're really wound up. | ||
| I mean, I'll see it multiple times. | ||
| Like I'm in Grand Theft Auto. | ||
| I'm just driving along. | ||
| I've got my gun out. | ||
| And I'm sorry? | ||
| Oh, that red light's going to red light. | ||
| Oh, there's two crises right there. | ||
| I'm just like, oh, let me get my gun. | ||
| I don't want to have to shoot anybody, but I mean, it is. | ||
| They are on fentanyl, methamphetamine. | ||
| That sounds insane. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, here's what I love about everybody who's ever been like, oh, Chicago, there's so much gun violence. | ||
| Man, I have never felt like I should drive around with a brandished gun out the window. | ||
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When you drive over here to record, never once was that. | |
| You're not just holding? | ||
| I just better have this pointed out the window. | ||
| Because who knows what could happen? | ||
| Well, but here's the thing. | ||
| Alex isn't either. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| He's making this up. | ||
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Of course. | |
| This is the first time. | ||
| I've seen so many videos that he's shot himself of him driving around. | ||
| He's not holding a gun. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's casually driving around. | ||
| In a nice car. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's trying to create the image of that LP video, Deep Space 9mm, where everybody's got a gun to it. | ||
| Yeah, everybody's just pointing a gun at each other all the time. | ||
| This is what it's like. | ||
| This is how it has to be in order to keep the peace. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| You're driving around recording yourself, posing on Twitter. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| There is no way that the writer of Deathwish should become the president. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like Charles Bronson going around solving crime by himself. | ||
| I featured him the other day that they remade Deathwish. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| I didn't realize that. | ||
| I must have known and then forgotten. | ||
| But Bruce Willis. | ||
| Bruce Willis? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bruce Willis will never beat Charles. | ||
| Bronson was perfect for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It also, this is a crazy thing to say. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But the remake looks so much more violent than the first one. | ||
| Which is weird. | ||
| The first one is really not that violent. | ||
| No, he doesn't kill. | ||
| He kills like, I think one or two people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's in anything, in any way you could describe it, it's more like probably an overreaction, but an understandable one. | ||
| Deathwish 2 is when it's like, oh, this guy's just a big one. | ||
| Incorrect. | ||
| Is it Deathwish 3? | ||
| Three. | ||
| Three is whenever he's just basically mowing people down like hot shots part due. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Three is where it gets out of hand. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| But I think I saw the trailer for the remake because I was thinking about watching it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, I think what they just must have done is compressed all of them into this remake. | ||
| And I think that sucks. | ||
| Anyway, Alex does seem to think that he's living in the Warriors. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds nuts. | ||
| That sounds fun. | ||
| And he also thinks that all of these other gangs in New York, all these fun dressed up gangs, they all just hate him because he's white. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| So this all ties together. | ||
| I want to just get this on record because it's absolutely true. | ||
| And I thought, I ought to give this to McBreen or somebody. | ||
| We ought to take this guy's video like we like to do and upgrade it and just add history and documents to it so you know all the specifics. | ||
| He does a good job, but I mean, you could make a whole movie about this, but notice there really aren't any movies. | ||
| There's like one movie about it. | ||
| Because that doesn't fit the narrative. | ||
| You know, well, the only places slavery is still around is in some places in the Middle East and Africa and Somalia. | ||
| They're famous slavers. | ||
| Elon Omar comes from a famous noble family in there. | ||
| She doesn't see African. | ||
| They see blacks in the Quran as, quote, raisin heads. | ||
| And they would take the black men and cut their genitals off as slaves. | ||
| That's the Muslims, okay? | ||
| But they preach Islam in the prisons. | ||
| And the Imam don't read that part of the Quran to you. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And I'm not trying to attack blacks that want to be Muslims or whatever, but just please. | ||
| My point is, please, please stop saying I'm a white devil because of the color of my skin. | ||
| Actually, I'm a pink devil. | ||
| A little bit of a red devil, actually. | ||
| The point is, is that I'm tired of it. | ||
| And I'm not going to bow down to it. | ||
| But it's the globalists and the media and Hollywood doing this to get us to kill each other. | ||
| And it's stupid. | ||
| But you have large groups of young black men who really believe it's open season on whites because of the culture and the media. | ||
| Remember when they had some of the Afrikaners, only 80 of them coming here, and they had all these black commentators on TV? | ||
| They're supposedly educated saying, they try to be racist to me. | ||
| I'm going to beat the hell out of them. | ||
| This is going well. | ||
| Like the Afrikaners get off and go, you work for me, black man. | ||
| That is what they do, yes. | ||
| They hide out on their farms. | ||
| They're totally scared to death and have a bunch of black people that love them that are Christian that defend them. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So just a little side note. | ||
| At the beginning, Alex is literally talking about stealing and improving a video made by a black life coach about how white people didn't create slavery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like he has no concern about intellectual property that this guy might have. | ||
| And also, I really do think the funny, it's a funny idea conceptually, just that he's like, I can do that better. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It is an exemplification of the very thing that is, it's, it's impossible to wrap your head around, really. | ||
| So this is also very instructive because this is still an offshoot of the conversation about Trump taking over DC. | ||
| On a very basic level, Alex supports Trump taking over the city because he sees it as predominantly black. | ||
| So this extension of the police state is going in the direction that he supports. | ||
| I've said it many times, and I'll say it again. | ||
| Alex does not care about the idea of a tyrannical state as long as he feels like the groups that he considers himself a part of are not targeted by it. | ||
| If the government is worried about militias and Nazis, then the police state is the biggest issue in the world. | ||
| And something as minor as FEMA trying to prepare for a natural disaster is proof of an evil plot. | ||
| If the government is full of militia types and Nazis, then the police state isn't that big of a problem. | ||
| And it's fully justified by how much crime Alex sees people post videos of on Twitter. | ||
| And it's just nonsense. | ||
| Pretending there's anything much deeper than that to his core beliefs is like, it's a little. | ||
| I mean, the National Guard has called into DC to cover the place. | ||
| How do you not just go like, ah, fuck. | ||
| Like, that would be my whole show. | ||
| That would be my whole show. | ||
| Everything up to this point, I'd be like, ah, I tried with the Epstein stuff. | ||
| I gave it a shot. | ||
| You know, I tried to light it through that. | ||
| And what about the butter? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the butter's a problem. | ||
| You know, the devil's an issue. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| That's just, it's comically far. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, it's, it's too far. | ||
| It's almost personal. | ||
| It feels like if I was Trump and I was like, you know what would really make me fucking laugh? | ||
| It's to sometimes just every now and again watch a clip of Alex Jones having to defend the absolute worst shit I've ever done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That'd be hilarious. | ||
| I imagine it would be really funny if Trump did like the State of the Union and he just made two frogs kick. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He's just totally pushing frogs up against each other. | ||
| I would support if the next president just wanted to antagonize one person through all of what he does. | ||
| That would be better than what we have currently. | ||
| And so I will, according to the rules of Hillary Clinton, vote for the lesser of two evils. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex was talking a little bit about the Afrikaners there. | ||
| Yeah, that was great. | ||
| I think you should talk more about the Afrikaners if you're a white supremacist. | ||
| Well, good. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And then roving bands of non-Christian communists come and kill the blacks and the whites of South Africa. | ||
| You don't know anything, dumbass. | ||
| The blacks are all battling to prove themselves and go live on the farms with the white people. | ||
| They're like, they're Amish, dumbboes. | ||
| That's literally what they are. | ||
| They went to America. | ||
| They went to South America. | ||
| They went and found Hawaii. | ||
| The King of Hawaii gave Amish on the island. | ||
| They called it Forbidden Island. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| They're Amish there today. | ||
| And only the Amish and the natives live there with no electricity. | ||
| I was invited out there. | ||
| I didn't have time to do it. | ||
| Amish leaders. | ||
| So this isn't true at all, but it speaks to Alex's belief in white supremacy and his fundamental support for the world of colonialist times. | ||
| Afrikaners are not Amish. | ||
| They're descended from mostly Dutch settlers who were servants of the Dutch East India Company. | ||
| On account of the Afrikan being a Dutch Reformed church made a foothold there in South Africa, but over time a split developed in the church and a new Dutch Reformed Church of South Africa began, which was distinct in many ways. | ||
| At the root, though, Reformed churches are churches that are inspired by Calvinist doctrine and are built around the idea that man is a slave to sin and cannot escape by choice or will. | ||
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| Only those who God has chosen to help can be saved, and these are the elect. | ||
| These teachings were introduced by John Calvin, a French theologian who was alive in the early 1500s. | ||
| Conversely, the Amish grew out of the Anabaptist Reformation that went down in Switzerland also in the 1500s. | ||
| The radical departure that the Anabaptists made from the existing church was that they only practiced baptism of believers, which is to say, you had to be an adult to be baptized. | ||
| The act of being baptized is a holy agreement between yourself and God. | ||
| And when you're a child, you can't possibly enter that agreement by your own free will and understanding. | ||
| So child baptism is meaningless. | ||
| The Calvinist tradition practices infant baptism and is not part of the Anabaptist tradition that spread into the Amish and Mennonite churches that Alex would be vaguely familiar with. | ||
| Beyond the fact that their histories and theological lineages are completely separate, there's also just fundamental differences between what these churches believe and how they practice their faith. | ||
| The Forbidden Island in Hawaii is Ni'ihau, and it's privately owned. | ||
| The census says that there's 170 people living on the island, but it's entirely under the control of the Robinson family, who are descendants of a rich Scottish farmer named Elizabeth Sinclair. | ||
| She bought Ni'ihau from the Kingdom of Hawaii for $10,000 in gold in 1864, and it's passed down through the family ever since. | ||
| They are somewhat conservative, but I really don't think they would have invited Alex to visit the island. | ||
| It just doesn't seem right. | ||
| It's a complex thing here, where this family has complete control over the island, and they make a bunch of money letting the military have a post there. | ||
| But the flip side of it is that they're conservationists, and part of their ownership involves allowing the native population on the island to continue to live there unimpeded and rent-free. | ||
| Over the years, they've allowed half-day visits to the island for tourists and hunters for a price, but it's always been strictly forbidden to interact with the locals who would be on the other side of the island from where any visitors would be anyway. | ||
| It's kind of bullshit because the family also imposes a bunch of artificial rules on the native population, like not allowing drinking or smoking and not allowing men to grow beards. | ||
| So what they're doing is more or less allowing an artificial remnant of Ni'ihau culture to remain as long as it conforms to what they want it to be. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| A lot of these people on the island work to maintain the military installation, so it's not a wholly benevolent act for the family to allow them to live on the island, since if they didn't do that, they'd have to find another source of labor to facilitate the base that allows them to get the rent. | ||
| So there's a lot of speculation that the 170 number on the census is an overcounting, and there might be only like 50 people living on Ni'i Hau. | ||
| So it could be the case that a very significant portion of the population is employees there to maintain the base and keep the family getting the rent from the U.S. government and contracts and all that stuff. | ||
| I like the idea of calling them somewhat conservative. | ||
| That's funny to me because to me, there's no line once you go, I should keep holding this island. | ||
| You are fully on the other side of the, you know, I don't need a somewhat in there. | ||
| Well, you own an island and have, roughly speaking, somewhat enslaved its people. | ||
| I'm judging this based sort of on the fact that they're still, people who live there are technically still U.S. citizens and so can vote. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| It's a very small number of people who end up voting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they have voted pretty Republican. | ||
| Funny how that works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Funny. | ||
| It's all very messy, and I don't trust any of this. | ||
| But whatever the case is, Elizabeth Sinclair was not Amish, and neither are we going. | ||
| Alex just likes colonialism, and he's tying himself into knots to explain it in some other way than just white people should be running everything. | ||
| I mean, I genuinely just will never understand anybody who's like, oh, yeah, this island should be mine. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't, I, I, I, I see both ends of it. | ||
| I think my idealistic side agrees with you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I also like, I don't know. | ||
| Once we start entering into that conversation, like all land ownership becomes dicey. | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| Doesn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree in idealistic terms with a lot of that. | ||
| But functionally, I don't know how we get there from here. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| We don't need to go too far. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| We compromise on you can't just have your own island. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that was fair. | ||
| Except Epstein. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He gets to keep it. | ||
| Weirdly enough. | ||
| So Alex has a guest on the show. | ||
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| And it is a fellow we haven't seen in a little bit. | ||
| A real nutbag. | ||
| And he kind of, he's the kind of person who gives me hope that Steve Pachenik could make a research because this guy was gone for a while, too. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Patrick Byrne is a very interesting person. | ||
| He's worked and done U.S. intelligence and a lot of high-level stuff. | ||
| He's also started in huge, successful multi-billion dollar companies. | ||
| Dr. Patrick M. Byrne, Patrick Byrne on X at DeepCapture.com. | ||
| Major films made about his work and his very intriguing life. | ||
| And I'm not going to go over his lengthy curriculum. | ||
| But all the rest of the world. | ||
| I'm not proud. | ||
| He's here to talk about Venezuela and how it ties into the Democrat overall plan to steal elections and how it ties into the gerrymandering, the redistricting. | ||
| You can't be any less serious than interviewing Patrick Byrne in 2025. | ||
| We haven't talked about him in a while because he was a little too out there for Alex to associate with during the fallout of the 2020 election conspiracies. | ||
| He was way too closely connected to people like Sidney Powell, who were getting sued all over the place and becoming punchlines. | ||
| So he became a much less important figure in this media. | ||
| To give you a little refresher on him, Byrne founded Overstock.com, but he resigned in 2019 when it came out that he'd been in a relationship with Russian spy Maria Bettina. | ||
| She pled guilty to conspiracy to act as an unregistered foreign agent, infiltrating organizations like the NRA on behalf of the Russian government and creating back-channel connections between these figures and the government. | ||
| She and Byrne were involved, which he claimed only happened because the FBI had asked him to date her, a claim which the FBI strongly denies. | ||
| Oh, no, that sounds true. | ||
| She served a few months in jail and then was deported to Russia in 2019, where she went on to work for RT. | ||
| In 2021, she was elected to the Russian Duma, but her candidacy was almost derailed by revelations made by now dead Alexei Novalny that Byrne was still sending her large sums of cash in 2021. | ||
| So what you going to do? | ||
| Patrick Byrne is a fucking mess. | ||
| And Alex better hope he's paying for this airtime because the alternative is that he actually wants to talk to Patrick Byrne about Venezuela conspiracies. | ||
| I mean, it feels like this is out of the blue. | ||
| It feels like if I'm booking my show and what's going on is going on right now and Patrick Byrne is like available with Venezuela talk, I'm like, buddy, not the time. | ||
| But if Patrick Byrne is available with a lot of money and Venezuela talk, you got all the time in the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that the way the vibe that this interview goes to is that like Alex does not seem that engaged at the beginning and then realizes I can work with this. | ||
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| And becomes like pretty excited as he realizes like, oh, wait, the Venezuela stuff connects to all the smartmatic and Dominion conspiracies. | ||
| You can fold your shit into my shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he gets on board more as it goes along. | ||
| But it does feel like I'm just talking to this ding-dong at the beginning. | ||
| That's why you get the crazies, though, because then you can fold in some real craziness. | ||
| You know, he doesn't have the creative juices anymore. | ||
| These people are coming out of nowhere with fringe ideas. | ||
| What about the butter? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So you want a fringe idea? | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Here's a fringe idea. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Well, that's what, and I mean, Vance, I know Vance, and people, he's a very serious guy, a very smart person and very measured, but he doesn't go on foxes and say, no, a bunch of people are getting adotitish is happening. | ||
| And so. | ||
| I think the only thing to do is to replace the top 3,000 people in the government with ex-military from SOCOM or the Marines. | ||
| You have to start with people you can trust. | ||
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And there's a whole layer of all the lawyers, the politicos. | |
| They're just all soft scum. | ||
| The first rule is you got to get the right people in place. | ||
| And the only people you can trust at this point are ex-SOCOM or Marines, I think. | ||
| Historically speaking. | ||
| I mean, this is good. | ||
| Historically speaking, when the top 3,000 people in your government are all military or ex-military, you're going to have a good time. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| No, it works. | ||
| You're going to have a grand time. | ||
| They're the trustworthy people. | ||
| I think just that conversation happening is fucking stupid. | ||
| You know what I think? | ||
| Military yunta. | ||
| How you feel? | ||
| I mean, someone like Alex, who really worries about the police state, really worries about tyranny, small government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, this would be a smaller government of just 3,000 people, all of whom. | ||
| I think there would be more than 3,000. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| You know, they would keep the other people on. | ||
| I assume those people would want to work for the military junta. | ||
| I don't know if Want comes into it. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| So Epstein comes up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And Alex is like, this Trump and Epstein stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Patrick Byrne, I mean, he was a really rich guy. | ||
| He ran over stuff. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he reveals. | ||
| That he knew Epstein? | ||
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No. | |
| Oh. | ||
| He almost went to Epstein Island. | ||
| He almost did it as an assassination mission. | ||
| Oh, hell yes. | ||
| Epstein, I've never seen any evidence of Trump and anything to do with that. | ||
| And then his behavior the last 37 days, creating a strives in effect. | ||
| He's not stupid. | ||
| What the hell's going on there from your sources? | ||
| I don't think he's been filmed on Epstein Island. | ||
| You know, Epstein, about two months before he was arrested, tried very hard to get me to come to Epstein Island. | ||
| Did I ever try that one? | ||
| No. | ||
| I had this plan to go out and I figured, well, I figured I'll accept it and go out and murder him. | ||
| And then, and we'll go for a long swim. | ||
| I like long-distance swimming, and I figured I would get him out swimming. | ||
| I could drown him. | ||
| I got in a pool with a guy about my size, and it turns out to be really a lot tougher to drown somebody than you think. | ||
| And then I found out about the cameras, that there were cameras everywhere, and they said, you're never going to get away with it, so I didn't go murder him. | ||
| But he tried very hard, and that's because the CIA knew what I had and what I already knew. | ||
| And they didn't, so they were going to try to blackmail me. | ||
| So about a month before he got arrested, I had very three, very strong overtures. | ||
| People came all the way to Utah to say, gosh, this Jeffrey Epstein, don't believe what you hear about him. | ||
| He's a wonderful guy. | ||
| He's got this big trading room. | ||
| He really wants to meet you, Pat. | ||
| He really wants me to come out and talk to you. | ||
| By the way, he's really good friends with Bill Gates. | ||
| Don't believe what you hear. | ||
| He's tied into all these elites. | ||
| You got to come see his trading room. | ||
| He really wants to meet you. | ||
| This dude's nuts. | ||
| Here's what I like about that story. | ||
| And I hope you caught what I caught. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| All right. | ||
| In his, I'm going to drown Epstein story. | ||
| The reason he does not drown Epstein is because he got a large man in a pool, comma. | ||
| Turns out it's very hard to drown someone. | ||
| Comma, that's why I didn't go murder. | ||
| Well, no, that's not actually true. | ||
| You were not listening closely enough because this large man in a pool is a difficulty. | ||
| This is a challenge. | ||
| But he could have risen to that challenge. | ||
| It was the cameras. | ||
| The cameras were why he didn't do it. | ||
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| I think the cameras are a good way to say that. | ||
| But come on. | ||
| You're a long-distance swimmer and there are cameras out that far. | ||
| Drone cameras. | ||
| Listen, if you had the gumption and the ability to strangle a large man in a pool, Epstein would have been dead. | ||
| No, that's all I'm saying. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| He was afraid and he was weak. | ||
| No, see, this is glass half full, glass half empty kind of thinking. | ||
| I think that if he hadn't found out about the cameras, he would have worked on his drowning skills. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not saying that you're wrong. | ||
| It's the cameras that were the deal breaker. | ||
| I won't argue. | ||
| Not that it's hard to drown someone in a pool. | ||
| Patrick Byrne is an achiever. | ||
| No, no, no, I understand. | ||
| He started a multi-billion dollar business. | ||
| I get you. | ||
| What I think is funnier about that is not that he could or could not have drowned this man. | ||
| It is that he had the idea, I'll go drown Epstein, but he's not going off half cocked. | ||
| No. | ||
| We're going to practice first, of course. | ||
| You don't want to get out there and realize in the moment this is too hard. | ||
| Oh, shit, I can't drown anybody. | ||
| Yeah, that's embarrassing. | ||
| So if we're talking about a premeditated attempted murder, it doesn't get more obvious than when you've got a man in the pool trying to drown him for practice, drowning people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I imagine what actually happened was that Patrick Byrne had done a little too much coke and tried to drown someone in a pool and now has come up with a story to explain. | ||
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That helps. | |
| I was practicing for Epstein. | ||
| That would be, listen, that would be, of all the reasons to get fake drowned, I think I might accept that one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex talks about how like Roger Roger told him all along that Trump was never going to release the Epstein stuff. | ||
| It just wasn't happening. | ||
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No. | |
| Why would Trump come out and create a Strezand effect and say he killed himself and don't ask questions or you're dumb? | ||
| He has to know that would create a giant Strezand effect. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, I don't think he's in the tapes and his lawyer and all kinds of people who would know have said he's not involved. | ||
| Oh, yeah, even Cohen hates him and says he's not. | ||
| Yeah, I think he worked there a decade and said he never heard a call from Epstein. | ||
| Maybe there's other people involved and that's what I was told by Roger Stone off record. | ||
| Now he's been public. | ||
| He told me when Robin Trump got reelected, he said, you're never getting it because the CIA was involved with your buddies at the Massad, and they don't want to come out. | ||
| Yeah, that would be my guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That would be my guess. | ||
| But I don't have any assigned side information on that one. | ||
| Well, I just know it is the fiasco fiascos. | ||
| So this is an explanation that Alex is offering for how it's possible that Trump would cover up the Epstein stuff, but not be directly involved in it. | ||
| But I don't think he understands how unacceptable this explanation is. | ||
| If Trump is covering it up, then he's complicit with these people. | ||
| He's chosen their interests over justice and disclosure because holding the people involved responsible would be too disruptive. | ||
| This is horrible shit, but Alex is able to present it as exonerating Trump because the alternative is considering that maybe Trump was best friends with a serial child predator for a number of years. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know if it means anything, but I was fascinated by Alex's telling of what Roger told him. | ||
| Like, why does Alex say that Roger called Masad your buddies? | ||
| I get that it's a joke, but it's a weird joke. | ||
| It is a weird joke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not really a joke. | ||
| It's not funny. | ||
| I guess it's absurdist or like no, I don't get it. | ||
| Well, it hinges on either Alex hating Massad or working for them. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Those are the ways that a joke could be leveraged. | ||
| It would have to be. | ||
| And I don't know what the, I don't know what the angle is. | ||
| Maybe it's because people say he works for Massad, and that's his. | ||
| That might be Roger fucking with him. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That works. | ||
| But then if it's Roger fucking with him, then why is Alex repeating that in his telling of the story? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| They're such weird people. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they're salesmen. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| And so it comes time to get some of the methylene blue sales going. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And man, Patrick fucks up. | ||
| Oh, this is no good. | ||
| And then there's so much other news I haven't hit. | ||
| Now, you want to do the plug, and I appreciate this. | ||
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I do. | |
| I came in. | ||
| Because you came in saying, I want more methylene blue. | ||
| And then I looked over when you went on the air. | ||
| You'd already slurped some down. | ||
| Your mouth was blue. | ||
| I said, your papa smirked. | ||
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So, so, Patty Byrne, how much is the correct amount to put in? | |
| About that much? | ||
| Yeah, Kennedy does three robbers. | ||
| This is really strong. | ||
| You gave me some last time. | ||
| I think you gave it on air. | ||
| And I thought it was a gimmick or, you know, snake oil. | ||
| You totally feel the difference. | ||
| I use the bottle you gave me. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It totally makes it. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| It just keeps your energy level up and plateaued without bonks. | ||
| So I love it. | ||
| I used the bottle you gave me, and I came back to Austin just to pick up this pumpkin. | ||
| Well, you can always get it at the alexon shore.com, but we'll certainly give you all you want. | ||
| We also have the capsules, but we have the strongest medical grade. | ||
| So Patrick thought that what he was doing was saying that Alex's products aren't like the other things you find in the market, which are all snake oil. | ||
| What he failed to realize is the implication here is that when Alex suggested something, Patrick didn't take it seriously. | ||
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Right. | |
| Patrick's known Alex for a long time. | ||
| So his first assumption when he hears Alex selling a product is that it's snake oil and that it's a gimmick. | ||
| And I don't care. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| He meant well because he didn't realize this is what he was saying. | ||
| But it doesn't sit well with Alex. | ||
| So after they plug their way out to a commercial, they come back from a pre-recorded methylene blue ad, and then this happens. | ||
| They're going to do a second take? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| They're going to have a little therapy session. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Patrick, I'm not trying to get you to plug, though. | ||
| I am now. | ||
| You got caught off of the break. | ||
| Every since we got cut off, you didn't come here to do a plug. | ||
| I wasn't thinking about methylene blue. | ||
| I brought it up and said, Alex, would you let me tell your viewers what an experience I had? | ||
| Well, I love you, and you're a really smart guy, and you've been totally vindicating everything you've ever said, so I'm really impressed. | ||
| I always liked you, but I could tell you were a spook before it ever came out in the news. | ||
| I was still always a little paranoid about any of that stuff. | ||
| But I'm a little hurt, though. | ||
| You're like, oh, because I remember you were reticent. | ||
| I said, you want to try some of this? | ||
| You're like, really? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| You know, I was like, no, no, no. | ||
| And I'm a little hurt, though, that you would think that it would be snake oil. | ||
| I knew it wasn't snake oil, but I watched it. | ||
| No, no, I understand. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| But I mean, listen, everything we sell is working and is good. | ||
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That's what I want. | |
| I mean, I'd be like, oh, I'm going to serve dog shit to people. | ||
| But I mean, this thing is the most dramatic, quick acting, and it's good for you. | ||
| It's just insane. | ||
| And if I could just get a few more percentages of the audience to buy it, all our problems will be solved. | ||
| You know, I'm back in state court Wednesday. | ||
| Okay, this is coming off a little weekend. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| A little defensive. | ||
| I do like it because the old, you know, it's a common trope in marketing. | ||
| The, the, like, well, I was skeptical too, but now I'm a believer, you know. | ||
| But there's a way to do it, and then there's a way to be like, Alex, you're a lying piece of shit. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| This works. | ||
| The way you're supposed to do it is I've tried other methylene blues. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I just, you know, it didn't do what it promised. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I took yours. | ||
| I didn't think it was going to work because of my experience with other versions of this product. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Not, hey, Alex, you suggested something and I thought it was snake oil. | ||
| Every time I buy something from you, it's bullshit. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I assumed that the next time I bought something from you, it would also be bullshit. | ||
| Or like, let's take the buying away from it because I don't necessarily believe any of these. | ||
| You didn't buy any of it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | |
| I just am on this side of the business. | ||
| So I'm not an idiot. | ||
| I don't fall for your shtick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I wasn't expecting much, but this actually was good. | ||
| There's plenty of ways to do it, but you've very clearly given up the game. | ||
| Alex is a lying piece of shit. | ||
| It was really funny when I was listening to this. | ||
| I was like, as soon as he said that, I was like, Alex is not going to like that. | ||
| And then when you came back from break, it had to have this little heart-to-heart with him. | ||
| I was like, yep, that's exactly what I thought was going to happen. | ||
| This feels very called into the general manager's office at a McDonald's or something like that. | ||
| You know, like, you know, you can't tell people the food's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you just can't. | ||
| Like, we're, I understand maybe we're a fast food restaurant. | ||
| Maybe you prefer to be in all these fancy restaurants, but you know, you can't tell our customers that the food they're buying is bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, I'm legitimizing you. | ||
| I'm telling everyone that you've been vindicated about everything. | ||
| I'm holding up my end of the bargain. | ||
| Don't piss in my juice cards. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the two of them, they're fine with the whole federalizing DC thing. | ||
| Sure, of course. | ||
| It's mostly, I think a lot of their feelings come down to like the homeless are too cocky. | ||
| That'll happen. | ||
| Trump's definitely taking the gloves off with things like federalizing D.C. Yeah, right on. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| We should have pride in our nation's capital. | ||
| I don't think that homeless people are be punished, but there's been a general breakdown in civility and an understanding of rule of law. | ||
| You know, for anything. | ||
| Well, they've taken advantage. | ||
| And then the NGOs that run the homeless make money off of it. | ||
| They have like barbecue pits out, and they're just injecting drugs right in front of everybody and breaking into our houses. | ||
| Austin's been turned into a hellhole by these times. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I heard you talking about it. | ||
| What about our rights? | ||
| I used to come to Austin to see the Grateful Dead whenever they played here. | ||
| Loved it. | ||
| You got great thing. | ||
| And Austin was such a jewel. | ||
| I'm talking decades ago. | ||
| And even 10 years ago, I came here to see. | ||
| It all changed six years ago. | ||
| The NGOs told all the homeless to come here, and now it's like an open toilet. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, one of the things about Alex is consistency. | ||
| And you never hear him complaining about this kind of stuff six years, seven years ago. | ||
| Like, before that, he was totally chill. | ||
| That is not true. | ||
| He is a piece of shit. | ||
| They have barbecue pits. | ||
| Why does it happen? | ||
| It just happens to everybody. | ||
| Like, every man turns into some form of this piece of shit at some point. | ||
| Like, it's when I was younger, it was kind of cool to grow up in a dangerous place. | ||
| You know, like you had something cool going on. | ||
| And then later on, when you were out of that dangerous place, you could be like, I grew up in a dangerous place. | ||
| Don't fucking treat me like I'm from the suburbs, you know, but you live in the suburbs. | ||
| And then you become Alex Jones being like, there's too many homeless people in the suburbs. | ||
| Like, just stop it. | ||
| Give him a place to live or something, but just don't be an old man that bitches about it all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that the mentality that they're approaching this with is so fraudulent because Patrick's like, I don't want the people to be punished, but everything about society is punishing them right now, and you want it to be worse on top of it. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| A large portion of what they're experiencing is societal punishment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the way you solve this is definitely not take away their barbecue pit or whatever. | ||
| There is a path that involves alleviating this, reducing harm in hopes of reintegrating, getting people stability. | ||
| Just that idea. | ||
| Just that idea of like, oh, there's a schizophrenic in my backyard, and I want them to be punished. | ||
| Like, at no point in time do you think like, oh, this is a person with a disease who needs treatment. | ||
| But what's fascinating about that is out of the other side of his mouth, Alex is pretending that Trump is trying to get medical help for drug users. | ||
| And it can't possibly be a police state if he's trying to do that. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| I don't want to help people, but I don't want them to feel good. | ||
| It's a pretend empathetic approach. | ||
| And what's really behind it is a desire to see these people who are in vulnerable positions and have essentially no power in society be crushed and just taken out of his view. | ||
| I don't want to see this. | ||
| But it's not even that. | ||
| It's even more fucked up than that. | ||
| Because if you were to just provide an actual fucking solution of like, hey, we got empty places. | ||
| We're going to put them there. | ||
| We're just going to get them out of your, you were mad that you see them. | ||
| So now they have a place to live. | ||
| About socialism. | ||
| They'd be like, no, that's not fair that they have communism. | ||
| And it's like handout. | ||
| So you just want to view people in a worse situation than you. | ||
| And then whenever things get worse, you want them to be even worse off than you are. | ||
| Yeah, as an excuse. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's disgusting. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| So we got one last clip here because after he talks to Patrick Byrne, he has his gold sponsor in. | ||
| And this episode seems like a lot of paid programming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I thought that Patrick Byrne admitted to something that Alex should be really worried about in this clip. | ||
| Continuing to love a Russian spot. | ||
| This stuff is finally happening, so I don't want to jinx it. | ||
| It's finally happening as it should. | ||
| It should have happened, I thought, January 21. | ||
| I thought on January 20th, Flynn said, jokingly, he said, you know, Trump's going to have you, well, Paris skydive into the mall as he's giving his inauguration speech for certain things I did that aren't out yet. | ||
| I knew that was an exaggeration, but I thought on January 20th, I'd start getting some help. | ||
| You can't believe on January 21st, I was bouncing around on the roof of a catamaran off Bahamas in a terrible storm because I was setting up to smuggle some people into the United States. | ||
| I got no help until about March 10th because there are so many people within the government. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I wish Trump would replace at least the top 1,500 with, you know, there's all kinds of millions of people. | ||
| Yeah, we need a real purge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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There's people from Green Berets who go on to Wall Street. | |
| They learn Wall Street and such. | ||
| They learn finance. | ||
| Let them come and staff the Treasury building. | ||
| Let we restaff the top of the government out of the Green Beret. | ||
| Let's be clear. | ||
| We already have a globalist coup. | ||
| We're not going to fix it playing patty cake. | ||
| Hey, bro, are you a human trafficker? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I was about to smuggle some people into the United States and I didn't have any help for obvious reasons. | ||
| How is that? | ||
| Why would you expect help when smuggling people into the United States? | ||
| Why would you expect help from the United States when smuggling people into the United States? | ||
| I understand that there are, you know, some people, you know, there are circumstances where it's like refugees or something. | ||
| Maybe you can make an argument for why it's not a hideously immoral act to smuggle people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it is still human trafficking. | ||
| It's still the movement of people illegal. | ||
| How it works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you talking about, Byrne? | ||
| Are you a coyote? | ||
| A catamaran coyote. | ||
| Is he out here? | ||
| What? | ||
| How do you find yourself in this situation? | ||
| All right. | ||
| So here I was trying to smuggle people in. | ||
| I had an idea for Overstock.com. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Shit got way out of hand. | ||
| He got way out of hand. | ||
| I'm in love with a Russian spy. | ||
| Then I'm smuggling people in. | ||
| She didn't love me. | ||
| And what I want is for the Green Berets who went to Wall Street to rule the world. | ||
| All they have to do is read a book. | ||
| Why not send the Wall Street people to Green Beret School? | ||
| Probably because they die. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, I thought that was really silly. | ||
| And Alex, if he was paying any attention, should have been like, hey, man, what did you just admit? | ||
| How could you just say that and not get any follow-up questions about that? | ||
| What did you just say? | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| This whole show is over. | ||
| You and me, you're smuggling people in. | ||
| Why? | ||
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How? | |
| Who hired you? | ||
| Are you hired? | ||
| Do you do this for free? | ||
| Where are you from? | ||
| Is this check going to clear? | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| So, yeah, I thought that was silly. | ||
| And then the fact that it all just kind of pivots into like, yeah, you know what? | ||
| The military should be in charge of the government is crazy. | ||
| Trump's actions in DC are totally fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex wants to purge the government and replace them with military. | ||
| Everything's going great. | ||
| And he wants to invade Mexico. | ||
| This does not sound at all like 1930s Italy. | ||
| This is not, no, nothing at all like that. | ||
| It's just like what I come back to over and over again is like trying to find the words that articulate how much this is comical for it to be what Alex is doing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I can't figure out how to just say what is self-evident. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anybody who's ever paid attention to what his career means and what it's built on would see this and be like, this is a farce. | ||
| It lets what would I say? | ||
| It defies the word hyperbole. | ||
| There cannot be any hyperbole about a situation that is as extremely itself as it's possible to be. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, you can't be like, oh, this would be like if Alex said that it was okay to be in a police state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because this is Alex saying it's okay to be in a police state. | ||
| Like, what else is there to say? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Here's what there is to say: you can learn something from anybody. | ||
| And what we've learned today is that if you're going to go try and drown somebody, practice in a pool first. | ||
| That's a good piece of advice. | ||
| Can I be honest with you? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I really pictured him in a kiddie pool. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| Here's my imagination, right? | ||
| Because I know he's a rich guy. | ||
| So my imagination is he's basically got an Olympic-sized pool in his backyard. | ||
| And he's got a guy. | ||
| He's like, hey, buddy, let's go for a swim together. | ||
| And they're going for a long swim. | ||
| And yeah, and the big guy starts to get tired. | ||
| And he's like, now I got him. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| And he jumps on. | ||
| And then the guy realizes that he can stand up in the water. | ||
| I picture Byrne as a bit of a cartoon character. | ||
| I see that. | ||
| And so my mind went to him and a big guy in a kiddie pool and him wrestling it with a kid. | ||
| It's fucking hard. | ||
| He's ankle deep water. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That works. | ||
| Wearing like a propeller beanie. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| I think he is a tremendous shithead, but he has the potential to have some swings. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, like there's an energy that we've missed of the, I was planning to murder Epstein. | ||
| I was planning to murder Epstein is the best way to start any conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's another clip in here that I didn't cut out where he was explaining why the Venezuelan government has a bounty out on him. | ||
| And so like he has big stories like Steve. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I want more of that energy. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| More of the fake butter. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| We're getting back into shape. | ||
| So I was out here. | ||
| I was going to murder Epstein. | ||
| I had this whole huge plan. | ||
| And then I tried it out. | ||
| And it's hard to. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| That's just amazing. | ||
| Again, it was the cameras. | ||
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So amazing. | |
| It's the cameras. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So we'll be back and see how Alex gets more and more acquainted with and falling in love with a police state. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed, we do. | ||
| It's KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the mysterious professor. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm my first name caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |