In this installment, Dan and Jordan take in the spectacle that is Alex trying his best to move on from the Trump/Epstein cover-up by yelling about Trump's feelings about piss and continuing his slide toward more overt antisemitism.
I think what's funny about that is it never would have occurred to me, but now that I think about it, I think Popeye would be a great horror movie villain.
Yeah, and afterwards we were talking about it and I worried that I might have yucked your yum a little bit or brought you down because you were more positive and I was a little more.
I wouldn't understand it at all, but I mean, I guess the idea is that there are people at home with their babies who are like, if I stay inside for another five minutes, I am going to murder this entire world.
And I want to say also, I recognize the hypocrisy of me being like, eh, on this movie and being also like, I can't wait to watch this shit with Popeye.
By that memo and then knowing Trump was behind it.
And then his response saying, shut this down, stop investigating without any clarity.
And then coming out Sunday, seven days later, and saying, no, no, they've had the file.
They filled it full of BS.
Brennan Clapper, Comey.
Of course, that's who controlled the file.
And that totally makes sense and is true.
That's their MO.
That's all they do.
But Trump has done a F minus.
I mean, my God, it's worse than an F. I mean, it's like a zero on the Streisand affecting and not having clarity and flip-flopping back and forth.
It's just been horrifying.
But that said, I've had a lot of clarity last night and this morning.
And I have some congressional reports out.
They've now saved over 30,000 children in sex slavery and slave labor.
You only hear about it here and there because under law, they can't reveal three-year-olds, 10-year-olds, 15-year-olds because they're juveniles.
But when you see the raid on the big pot farm, and now it's 14 kids, some as young as eight, working in slave labor and God knows what, you're able to learn about that little window because they attacked them with clubs and guns, shot at them and cinder blocks, smashing out their SUV windows, attempted murder.
Yesterday, it looked like Trump had put on the one ring after getting shot in Butler, and he'd gotten too absorbed in raw masculine power that it created, which made him susceptible to a demon taking over his mind and body.
But today, Alex has prayed about it, and I guess everything's fine.
What this indicates to me is that he thinks that things are just going to go back to normal.
In the past 10 days, since the FBI memo came out, Alex has been trying to figure out what the best positioning was for him and what narrative was going to allow him to straddle the line between not pissing off Trump and Roger and saving face with the save the children crowd.
Needed to serve both of those interests.
The way he's talking here makes you think that he's decided that it's safe to downplay this, and he's banking on being able to pacify the Epstein child trafficking hardliners by appealing to the ideas that Trump and ICE are saving all these children from slavery.
The pot farm bus that Alex is talking about is a really complicated case, and I think that it absolutely shouldn't have happened like it did.
But I don't mean to say that there wasn't any potential wrongdoing, especially from like a labor front on the farm's part.
The raids were carried out on two farm locations run by Glass House, the largest legal weed growers in California.
In the ensuing chaos, a man trying to run from ICE fell from a roof and died.
Around 360 people were detained, including four U.S. citizens.
When immigration agents showed up to the farm, they were met by protesters who were a separate group from the workers who were being targeted by ICE.
Alex is exaggerating the violence involved, but there are reports of things like protesters kicking a can of gas back at the officers who threw it at them, and an allegation that someone fired a gun.
Whatever the case is here, this was not violence being carried out by immigrants, which ICE is then responding to with violence.
The law enforcement are the instigators of the violence in this confrontation.
In the raid, the police found 10 minors, but it's unclear what that means.
The children may have been the offspring of people who worked at the farm who couldn't afford daycare for their kids.
We don't know what the specifics are here, but it would be unwise to assume that they were all child laborers.
There's also another sticky issue here, which is that the BBC reported Customs and Border Patrol saying that the youngest miner they found was 14.
In California, it's legal for people to work in agricultural jobs over the age of 12, which is something Alex has been very in favor of in the past.
His position has always been that in the country, you start work early as a way of life, and laws that prohibit that are meant to be attacks on the rural community.
However, even though it's legal for 14-year-olds to work in agricultural settings in California, you have to be 21 or older to work on a cannabis farm.
And so that still could be an issue.
But it gets even messier because the Glasshouse farm in question was their location in Camarillo, California.
According to the Associated Press, when they bought that farm, there were six greenhouses there that were used for tomatoes and cucumbers.
Quote, to date, two of the greenhouses have been converted to grow cannabis.
Workers' relatives said tomatoes are still being grown in other greenhouses at the location.
The point is that we don't know if these 10 miners were even working at this farm.
And if they were, it's possible that they were employed in a capacity that people their age in California can legally be employed in.
I'm not saying that there's no problem here, just that the problem is more of a workers' rights issue than an immigration one, just on its face.
And ICE raid doesn't do shit to address whatever underlying problems may exist from a labor perspective on that farm.
But Alex knows that Trump has made himself really vulnerable to accusations that he's covering up child trafficking.
And no matter what the people in the media try to say, Trump will not stop making it worse.
Alex can't spin any of that shit that he's doing, so he needs to change the conversation entirely.
Sure, Trump is acting super weird about this Epstein stuff, but did you see that raid on a pot farm?
It's not going to work, but it's a decent attempt at misdirection.
And you see on this episode a pretty heavy interest in that.
Misdirect, redirect these feelings and the attention that people have.
So, like, I think that Alex's primary issue is exploiting fears and sensationalizing abuse against children.
Sure.
Like, in order to fuel a lot of this propaganda and conspiracy narratives.
That's central for him.
And if he's willing to just be like, hey, Trump told us to shut up about this and he called us stupid, if you're going to not throw that bathwater out, there's not a baby in there.
And we've already seen on the big broadbrush things with policy, Trump's got like the border and trade and pulling us out of the WHO and so much more.
We've seen bold, dramatic, amazing, spectacular developments.
And I have to balance that on the scales and then look at the bad stuff Trump's doing.
And nine times out of ten, when something evil is put in a bill and we expose it, it's pulled and it wasn't Trump.
And that's why they want this broadcast off the air and others like it, because they know as a populist movement, we are more powerful than all the corporate media combined.
And we're now able to control the agenda.
When they had the UN treaty legislation in the spending bill, when President Trump was just president-elect, pressure shot that down.
A few weeks ago in the BBB, they had the majority votes to put in an AI dictatorship for 10 years above the law.
It got shot down and voted down 99 to 1.
Now they've got the Genius Act that's got a central bank digital currency pathway in it that Trump says he opposes.
If you're keeping score, what Alex is saying is that working with the devil is okay if it makes you win more.
If you get what you want, then it doesn't really matter if you cover up sex trafficking in order to enable it.
You'll notice this with folks like Alex, where when they're in opposition to the main institutional power structure, they're all about principle.
Shit is very simple, and red lines are super easy to draw because they don't really matter.
Ron Paul can make all kinds of demands based on principle, and then when nothing gets done, everyone can just move along.
But when they're close to power, that reliance on principle gets replaced by a lot of ends justify the means rhetoric, a lot of you have to take the rough with the smooth kind of talk.
This happens because once the people they feel close to are in undeniable power, those red lines actually start to matter.
When Trump's supposed to have Kash Patel release the Epstein stuff on day one, there's no real reason for that not to happen.
When Ron Paul wanted to abolish The Federal Reserve.
Everyone knew that wasn't happening, and he didn't have the power to get it done.
But now, all of the right people have the power that they're supposed to have in order to achieve the promised result.
They have to shift to this kind of approach because if they stayed with the principled angle, they would have to alienate themselves from their perceived closeness to power.
The Alex that was supposed to have existed for the last 30 years would never accept this kind of thing from a politician.
Trump literally said that people who still cared about Epstein were stupid on TV.
Alex, like, it's it can't be more of a like you suck than that.
We like to imagine that the old Alex would never have put up with that, but in reality, I strongly suspect that if Roger Stone had thought Alex was a worthwhile investment in 2000, there's a good chance Alex would never have been a Bush did 9-11 guy.
Like, I don't, I don't think it's crazy to think that, like, he never would have gone down the 9-11 route if someone had just made him think Bush liked him.
So many people, and this way the corporate media does it, want to make it a black and white issue or a left-or-right issue, or you're either totally do whatever Trump says, or you're a traitor, or if you do, if you support anything Trump does, you're bad.
And that's why stuff with Trump coming out over and over again the last week: don't question Epstein, or you're with the Democrats, and you're an idiot, and I'm done with you, and we don't want you in our movement.
People say, well, he didn't write that true social post, and then he goes out in press conferences and says basically the exact same thing.
That is horrible.
But then out of the other side of his mouth, oh, they're going to appoint a special prosecutor, probably Ed Martin.
Great.
On the Epstein thing.
And so my frustration is the handling of this.
When Trump came out Sunday, seven days in and went, Comey, Brennan, and Clapper all had this file for decades.
They filled it full of disinformation.
It's another Russia hoax because Trump didn't know.
Yeah, we're going to release it.
They go rate it.
Democrats wouldn't turn it over, but they probably leaked on themselves.
They get it.
And there's a bunch of unsubstantiated crap in there.
Guaranteed it'll be the five Jane Does that all turned out to be fake saying Trump raped him and stuff.
Turned out those are all fake.
Remember that?
It's guaranteed FBI files on that.
That's what it is.
And I've been thinking that the last four or five days, and I made some calls and people go, how do you know this?
We're not going to confirm that to you, but how the hell do you know that?
Alex is really screwing himself over with this narrative, and he doesn't seem to realize or care.
Like, if the globalists can manipulate the Epstein files to try to set up Trump, then why couldn't the Trump people manipulate them to set up Democrats?
If some piece of evidence ever does get produced about, like, let's say Bill Gates, why should anyone take it seriously?
Alex has just invalidated the font from which this comes.
And what Alex is doing, I believe, is a move in the direction of nihilism.
And I think it's counterproductive for someone in Alex's position.
It's gratifying in the short term to get him out of this bind with Trump being really suspicious about Epstein, but it doesn't have legs.
So it's a gamble that depends on people moving on from the Epstein stuff.
If the base moves on, then Alex can play this game and move on too.
But if they don't, Trump keeps saying this indefensible stuff, then Alex is boxing himself into a position where he has to make excuses for that indefensible stuff Trump is saying.
It would be far better for him to bail because what has a potential to happen after this point is like Ghylaine Maxwell going to another cushy prison.
I look at that and I look at the 96% drop in smuggling across the border.
They basically cut it off.
I'm really blown away that it's that successful.
Very impressive.
I mean, these federal agents are not sitting around playing ping pong or eating donuts.
And I'm told, and I've seen it from my sources that they are just 18-hour days, maximum output, guzzling energy drinks, just operating on testosterone and adrenaline.
And because Trump has told them through their bosses, you got quotas, you do it, or you're fired.
You get massive arrests and massive kids saved.
You get bonuses.
You get promotions.
You get overtime.
You get everything.
So, I mean, you watch these raids.
I've seen them outside the office, ran into one a few weeks ago.
I mean, these feds are just running around like hunting dogs, grabbing.
I mean, it's, it's, I mean, it's, I mean, this is what you're supposed to see going on.
Is it real energy?
So, I mean, I drove in the office like two weeks ago.
I told the story.
I didn't want to get out in the middle of it.
And I mean, I'm talking 300 yards from the door to the office.
They got a Fed vehicle, and then you got a state police that are backing them up, and the feds are wearing masks, and they're literally running back and forth, and they're packing like six people out of the back of this truck.
King cab truck, and they're illegal, you know, it looks like illegal alien males.
And the feds, because I pulled over to the park, I want to watch them for about five minutes, were just running back and forth and just checking them.
It was like they were sped up or something.
Like you watch those kung fu movies and they speed up the fighting.
I was just like, good God, running around like piranhas.
Unless you are one, I don't know who would be an example of this, but someone who really, really cared about the Bundies and now is aggressively opposed to this.
And so I think that Alex is like, okay, Trump, you could have, if there was message discipline, we could have just gone with this from the start and we could have Solved a lot of problems.
So that's a great headline for Alex, but it's not true.
Kennedy did fire two people that day, but they were his chief of staff and deputy chief of staff for policy.
These were Heather Flick Mellinson and Hannah Anderson, respectively.
And neither of them were big pharma plants in the department.
They were directly hired by Kennedy himself in January.
At the time of her appointment, Politico reported that Mellinson's choice as chief of staff for HHS was an indication that Trump was looking to keep an eye on what Kennedy was up to because she's a Trump loyalist.
She worked at the HHS in Trump's first term, so it was generally understood that she was a proxy to make sure that Kennedy didn't go too far off script and do things that were actually threatening to the business interests that support Trump.
Hannah Anderson was also a Trump loyalist and generally just a staunch anti-abortion activist.
No one really has an issue with Kennedy firing or replacing these people that he's hired.
He has the right to staff his office how he sees fit.
But the reason that this is even a headline is because he fired two highly positioned people in the department, and some of the circumstances around it could look like it signifies a break between Trump and Kennedy.
Sure.
And the media loves to report on that kind of stuff.
And part of that is because he's confusing this with news from a month prior when Kennedy fired the whole advisory committee for immunization practices and replaced them with dipshits like Robert Malone.
Sure.
So he's kind of just assuming this is more of the same.
Remember, three years ago, the New York Times, just to covered its ass, did a couple big reports with thousands of children as young as nine, on average 14, in tire factories, cereal factories, grain processing factories, textile plants, and nothing against the North and places like Michigan and Illinois.
So the New York Times has actually done a ton of articles about companies exploiting child labor.
In many cases, immigrant children who were made to work in dangerous conditions.
It's not just in the North where people have abandoned Christian values.
It's a long-standing, disgusting trend that's been allowed to go on because addressing the problem would involve punishing big businesses, and that goes against American values.
Paying people decent wages will attract qualified and appropriate workers to fill the jobs you need filled, but that also cuts down on profits.
So you can get around that by getting a ton of your labor from subcontracting companies who technically are the ones who are the employers of these people, who are then being leased to you to do work.
You get someone to fill your position, and you get to have plausible deniability if the people working in your factory aren't legally allowed to work.
Therefore, you protect yourself from any of the consequences.
Republican lawmakers are strongly behind allowing this to continue.
And one of the harsher examples of this is Sarah Huckabee Sanders, governor of Arkansas and Trump's former press secretary, signing a bill in 2023 that got rid of the requirement for children under 16 to get a worker's permit to get a job.
That requirement forced employers to verify a worker's age and make sure that their parents signed off on them working, but the GOP in Arkansas just got rid of that.
So to put it as simply as possible, Alex is a full-fledged supporter of the team that is actively pushing for more child labor.
And he can do all this sensational shit around it that he wants, but his policies and the people he supports will lead to far more child labor exploitation.
The bill that they're talking about doesn't do what Alex and John Bowen are claiming.
It includes a provision for the county of LA to purchase lots at a fair price and rebuild stuff that's in the public interest, like infrastructure or possibly affordable housing.
No one has to sell their lots.
And I'm not saying that this isn't something that could be taken advantage of.
And, you know, it's not necessarily a good thing, but it's not what Alex is describing.
From an NBC Los Angeles article published on July 8th, the county had received 1,207 requests to rebuild, but they'd only issued 90 permits at that time.
In that clip, Alex cited two completely incorrect numbers because he's just making this shit up.
So that number, the 90 out of 1,207, that only reflects the requests made to unincorporated L.A. County.
The L.A. Department of Building and Safety had received 360 requests and approved 70.
In an effort to make this process move more quickly, Gavin Newsom exempted firebuilding projects, the rebuilding projects from the fire.
He exempted them from the 2025 building code standards, only requiring that they follow the 2022 code.
But it's still taking like 50 days for permits to be approved, which is too long, but it's also not nearly what Alex is saying.
It sucks, and I'm sure that I don't know what the answer is to make it go more quickly, but I'm confident that it's not just lying about the situation in order to build conspiracy theories to distract the audience from Trump's mishandling of Einstein.
But it's nuts.
Those numbers are from nine days before this episode that Alex is recording.
So Alex thought that clip was Trump and LA Mayor Bass arguing about how long it was going to take to get permits to rebuild after the fire.
But it was actually about the speed with which people could begin clearing debris.
The reason that I think this clip is really important is because how Trump's mind shifts and the argument changes because he's a baby who's throwing a tantrum.
Bass is discussing the timetable and logistics for when properties will be cleared so people can return to their homes.
And Trump first tries to pick a fight about how people just want to clean up the debris themselves.
They don't want to wait for the government to do it for them.
They're good, hardworking people who just want to roll their sleeves up.
Bass tries to calmly explain to him that people can do that if they want.
They don't have to rely on the city or the county to remove the debris.
But as it turns out, of the 12,048 properties destroyed in the fire, the owners of 9,873 of them decided to rely on the government's public cleanup program.
1,982 chose to do the cleanup themselves, and nothing was stopping them from making that choice.
However, in the immediate aftermath of the fires, people were not allowed to go back to their homes, largely because of very easy-to-understand safety risks.
In the moment, Trump has lashed out and whined about how people should be allowed to clean up their own lots and not rely on the government.
And Bass has tried to explain to him that they can.
She's like a teacher trying to deal with a child who's angry about a non-existent problem.
Trump instinctively knows that he's lost to this point and he looks dumb, but he's also still angry.
So he can't just say, okay, well, I'm glad everyone can choose whether or not to clean up their own property.
He has to wait for the next thing that Bass says and complain about that and pretend that that was the thing that he was really mad about.
This is a huge part of Trump's allure and what part of what he and Alex share, which is the steadfast refusal to acknowledge being wrong and the will to just keep talking.
It's all about momentum.
It almost doesn't matter what he's saying to Bass, but folks like Alex will just see this and celebrate the fact that he kept being a dick to her.
John Kiriaku is a former head of counterterrorism, CIA in Afghanistan and other countries.
Very famous, very prestigious, very documented.
What he said was true, exposing illegal torture programs and more.
I've interviewed him a few times, and he did a great job, but he has been on fire with Patrick Ben-David and Tucker Carlson on Israel really trying to take over the United States.
Not just foreign policy and so much more.
So very impressed.
And again, he's not anti-Israel, folks.
And I want to be clear.
I don't say that as like wink wink, dog whistle.
I love Hitler, you know, but oh, I don't really hate all the Jews.
I think if you take it seriously that you're not dog whistling and trying to hide beliefs behind this kind of shit, you really have a responsibility not to hang out with and promote people who are and are very explicit about how that's what they're doing.
And I think that Alex, he does not pass that test.
He's like, yeah, I don't, you know, I can't be called anti-Semitic when I say globalists, but now Jews do run the center of the globalist power structure.
I can't sit there and watch Israel be an ethnostate and not miss Road.
Jews can't marry non-Jews in Israel.
And I'm like, fine, you're allowed to have an ethno state.
I'm not even saying people can't have that.
But then if some white Christians just want to be white separatists and preserve their culture, the ADL, the Jewish lobby, and all of it attacks them and says they're Nazis.
Well, why do you get to have an ethno state and white people can't?
But I also think that something that's fascinating about this is like making an argument like this reveals more about you than it does about the United States, about Israel, about anything.
And of course, Hitler double-crossed him all at the end.
That's why Madeline Albright's dad, one of the main Jews running the operations of the Nazis, rounding up Jews, he was at the top.
Sorrels was at the bottom.
You feel like people like Steve Pachenek is Jewish or perhaps Jewish.
I guess the dad's Catholic, the mom is Jewish, so that makes him Jewish, high-level CIA at the time, a long time ago.
Really smart guy, but he would go off on it all day long about how the Jewish leadership made a deal with Hitler and all this and knew about the persecution coming and had a deal to send him to Palestine.
But in the middle of it, the Germans lost control of North Africa and the Middle East.
And they said, no, you were just going to kill all of you now.
And then they, of course, rounded up even in Paris.
One of the Rothschilds was running a bank with all the stolen Jew money they took from their own people.
Wild.
They killed them.
So it's true, even a couple of Rothschilds got killed.
If Alex wants to bring up stuff that Steve used to tell him, and he should probably also remind the audience why Steve isn't allowed on the show anymore.
Steve wouldn't stop going along with the QAnon-type narratives about how the 2020 election was run with watermarked ballots and that Trump would be installed as president any day now.
And it just didn't work for the direction Alex's content Was going.
In order to navigate out of that kind of trouble, Alex decided that Steve was still working for intelligence agencies and was feeding him misinformation.
Essentially, he was a globalist trying to distract Alex and his audience with this fake hope so they wouldn't do the hard work of trying to support Trump in his real battles.
If that's possibly true, then it should call for a full-scale reassessment of the other things that Steve has brought into the mythology of Infowars.
But that audit is more elusive than the one Alex wants to do on the Federal Reserve.
What he's spouting here is just anti-Semitic trash, and I can't really imagine that Alex doesn't understand that.
He's really gone out of his way to avoid being too explicit about a lot of this stuff in the past for a reason.
And it's because he's aware of that large section of his audience that are just straight-up Nazis waiting for him to come out.
When Alex said earlier that he wasn't dog whistling, he was doing that because he knows that a bunch of his friends like Nick are, and it caters to a specific part of his audience.
It's great that Alex thinks he's operating on some higher level by saying that Hitler and the Rothschilds are bad, but he's actually just infantilizing this issue by pretending that there's an equivalence here.
And it's bad.
It's real bad.
And I don't think that it's not things that he's thought for a long time.
And that's why whenever I say that ICE is going to these places, tearing people from their homes and then putting them in pens, I am telling you that I don't like Hitler.
So it's not like that Alex has ever really been trying to hide his racism for sure.
Sure.
It's more that his ideology is built on a foundation of racism, anti-Semitism, and tycoon worship to the extent that it just all feels natural to him.
On top of that, he's a coward.
And throughout his career, He's known that to let this side of himself be more explicit on air would basically fuck over any chances he had at making money.
So he's been pretty vigilant about speaking in his code.
He clearly doesn't feel like that matters anymore.
And he's making an obvious play to try to win over some of Nick's fans.
It's not going to work, though, because Nick's fans don't want this.
They want someone saying we need to send the Jews to the moon, right?
You don't even have to tell me anything else than no, what I'm trying to say is that Jews who do black magic will receive worse than seven times the results.
Yeah, like what in what world are you having so many of these conversations that your tone of voice is like, just stop telling me that the Jews aren't good?
And how desperate do you have to be to be this mad about this person and the things that Nick is saying and still be like, I kind of want to hang around him.
Now, I will say, in order to just sort of palate cleanse from that last clip, When Alex says that when you're favored by God, you're also favored by the devil.
It feels like if I were to see that as my enemy and then do everything I could to defeat them.
And then later on, whenever it became convenient, I was like, no, we're best friends and I control everything.
That would make me the guy who's in charge of all of these satanic sex rituals.
Now, if I'm in charge of a bunch of satanic sex rituals and I allow them to keep happening, that would suggest to me that I'm not very in touch with the Lord whatsoever.
I'm kind of more on the let's do satanic rituals side.
When it comes to stuff like the CIA being involved, they've done stuff with the Playboy models of the month, you know, getting them to be prostitutes for high-level leaders of other countries.
So a lot of the ability to pretend that everything is all right with Trump comes from a belief that Alex has that there's going to be the special counsel to conduct.
So I think when Alex says that Trump doesn't want to leave his destiny in someone else's hands, he's kind of saying that Trump doesn't want to be investigated because he knows he's dirty as hell.
You feel, I mean, obviously, Alex is a disgusting bigot piece of shit, and I don't really have a whole lot of empathy for him, but you feel for a guy who really thinks for most of his shift, everything is going to be okay.
I'm going to distract people with the pot farm bust.
In the same way that Bass is trying to treat him like an adult or a child in that press conference, that makes him appear like he's having an argument on a level of what is actually in the interests of helping these people that have been ravaged by this fire.
Yep.
When in reality, that's not the planet he's even living on.