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July 28, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
01:10:46
#1060: June 25-28, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to hear Alex beginning an attack on Zorhan Mamdani, getting very defensive about Bill Cooper, and confessing to killing someone with a ghost.

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alex jones
17:41
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dan friesen
32:29
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jordan holmes
18:16
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unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgeparty.com.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need fight.
Need money.
Andy and Panzers.
unidentified
Andy and Panya.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy and Panzer.
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Andy and Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding it.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a six-pin colour.
We're here today.
alex jones
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back, Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple of dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is I did something I have not done in a very long time, and that is that I went to a movie on opening night.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Dress up?
dan friesen
No.
Oh.
No.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, like, did that, you know, I'm not saying you dressed up like a character.
I mean, did you?
dan friesen
I wore a hoodie because I thought it might be chilly in the theater.
So that was kind of dressing up.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Yeah, I went to go see Fantastic Four.
jordan holmes
How fantastic was it?
dan friesen
It was good.
I enjoyed it, except the end.
There might be a few spoilers in my conversation about this, but nothing too.
I'll be careful.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
We understand the Fantastic Four.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know who one guy stretches.
jordan holmes
That guy stretches.
The other lady turns invisible.
That guy's a rock.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Etc.
dan friesen
I did not mean to go, but I went to the website of the theater, just like looking what was playing.
And there were two tickets left for the 9 o'clock show.
And I panic bought me.
I just was like, if I don't do it now, I won't be able to decide to do it or not do it later.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So I bought it to ease that anxiety.
jordan holmes
Wow, that's some opportunity loss, psychological shit right there.
You just got marketed.
dan friesen
I did.
I did.
So I went to that.
It was fine.
It's interesting to watch a movie in a theater full of people.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like reacting to laughing to things.
jordan holmes
What was that like?
It's been a long time.
dan friesen
Well, I learned a lot about what the guy sitting next to me's birthday was because it kept coming up.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
Why did it keep coming up?
dan friesen
Like, two of the trailers were for movies that came out on the guy's birthday.
jordan holmes
Did he bring it up?
unidentified
He did.
jordan holmes
Did he like turn to you going off?
dan friesen
He was sitting with a friend.
He was sitting with a friend.
But I learned a lot about it.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Okay.
So that was fun.
That was a nice.
But yeah, I think that I don't react much to a movie.
Like, I'm not going to laugh really hard at like a baby or whatever.
But there is something kind of charming about a big group of people that they have a reaction and there's waves of like feeling that go over the audience.
So that's kind of nice to be a part of.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely.
It's crazy how big, you know, like for the pandemic, my wife and I basically together have watched a million movies, but we haven't gone to the theater in probably five, six years, you know, longer.
dan friesen
We've done very little until quite recently.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
And like it is occasionally every now and again, you'll see an interview with somebody and they're like, oh, you know, but when we watch in a theater with all these people, it's a magical experience.
You're like, yeah, well, I don't know anymore, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I've told the story before, I think probably even on this podcast, but like when I worked at a theater downtown, Vince Vaughan came in when his movie came out.
Yeah.
What was that fucking movie?
I can't even remember what the name of the movie was.
That one with Kevin James.
jordan holmes
The Swingers one?
No, not Swingers.
dan friesen
That was way after.
jordan holmes
That was way, way after.
dan friesen
But he came, slid in late, sat at the back of the theater and then got out early.
And it was very clear that it was just to see people laugh at the thing that he had done.
Yeah.
And there's a feeling that's undeniable about that big group of people enjoying a thing.
jordan holmes
That must be real cool.
dan friesen
But the Fantastic Four is fun.
It's a good time.
jordan holmes
You're the big guys in it.
Did he eat the planet?
dan friesen
Galactus?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Galactus does eat planets.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
I will not spoil what he does.
But, yeah, I thought it was well done and fun.
And I find...
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I think, first of all, I think a Fantastic Four story relies on Johnny Storm and the thing.
The energy between them needs to be right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They need to be pokey at each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're buddy cop.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But Johnny Storm needs to not be a douche.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the thing needs to not be a total sad sack.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I think they nailed that.
They threaded that needle really well.
Where Johnny's likable and thing isn't a depressed mob.
jordan holmes
I feel like the exact energy they need is the same as like 48 Hours.
Like Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy have that correct thing storm.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what I feel.
dan friesen
And then Sue's great.
And I always find Mr. Fantastic fucking annoying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a dumb character.
dan friesen
But I think it's because of his powers.
jordan holmes
You think it's his powers?
They are annoying powers.
There is no more annoying power than the guy who stretches far.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
And somehow I think that Pedro Pascal's performance of him like tempered my annoyance at, ooh, you stretch really far.
jordan holmes
I'm a wind tunnel now.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think they did it all right.
Anyway, thumbs up.
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is I fucked around, started playing Magic of the Gathering with that Final Fantasy set.
It's a lot of fun.
It's a lot of fun.
There's a, I don't know if it's nostalgia, but I think it's more like the way they integrate the very specific Final Fantasy-ness.
dan friesen
Now, let me ask you a question real fast.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We were talking about this a little bit before we started recording.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is it only Final Fantasy VII or is it all of the Final Fantasy?
jordan holmes
It's all the Final Fantasies.
So, like, Final Fantasy, even the online 14, you know, like all it's all the characters from all across the thing, right?
And they've all got cards, but they're not just like, oh, there's this character in the game now.
And it's like a 4-4 and it does the regular stuff.
They've got like very specific things that are unique to each character and kind of fit in a thematic way.
And it's great.
They just really pulled it off well.
dan friesen
Like Brock Toon with his arm gun.
jordan holmes
Like Brock Toon with his arm gun.
dan friesen
You said that Tifa was green.
jordan holmes
She's green.
dan friesen
Which seems wrong to me.
I feel like she should be red.
jordan holmes
I, you know, I feel like they've got a lot of...
He's a black card.
No problem.
Yeah.
You got Vivi.
He's your black mage.
That's a red card.
Fire.
dan friesen
What about a Pocobo?
jordan holmes
What about a Chocobo?
dan friesen
Chocobo.
jordan holmes
Chocobo is either green or white.
dan friesen
Oh, there's two.
jordan holmes
There's either green or white.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm sure there is going to be red chocobos and all that stuff later.
dan friesen
I don't know why I feel passionately that Tifa should be a red card, but I do.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
I just barely played that game.
I know nothing about these characters, but she doesn't feel like she should be green.
jordan holmes
Okay, I think the reasoning on why she's green is I think it has something to do with either a land or a spell.
But when you put one down, she gets a boost to her power, right?
So then you can find ways to get another one, keep putting the same thing down until her power is so boosted up, it's crazy high.
And I think that's like, it's the only in the green deck that they have that kind of mechanic.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So that's why she's there.
Because she punches at a thousand.
Fine.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
I know.
I'm not doing it.
dan friesen
I'm glad you're enjoying that.
jordan holmes
I am.
dan friesen
That is fun.
The magic, they're good at making those theme things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Give you a little bit of a charge in your random bone.
jordan holmes
They're just good at it.
dan friesen
Well, I'll get back on and I'll blues to you.
We'll make a deck and play around.
So today we've got an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about June 25th and 28th, 2025.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
The world is a mess.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Gene Heckman, Alex did not save him.
God told him to save him.
And unfortunately, in not saving him, Alex accidentally unleashed a demon, which may or may not be possessing Trump.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
The United States is still in an active civil war.
Iran and Israel, there's some brinksmanship going on, but everything seems to have calmed down a little bit on that front.
So everything's fine.
And Alex is fine with Nazis now.
So that's where we are.
jordan holmes
I will say this to you.
Being where we are now, you know, is nice.
I would put it that if, like, let's say next month, Gene Hackman comes back to life for whatever reason, that would change these intros into something I think truly spectacular.
That's the only positive that would come from Gene Hackman being back alive is that this intro would have to be like, Gene's back!
Anyways, the rest of it is exactly the same.
dan friesen
The Antichrist creates a hologram Gene Hackman in order to trick the faithful.
alex jones
That'll get him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we'll find out what Alex is up to on this episode.
Spoiler alert, it's not good.
But before that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I didn't want to do it in 2023 because I worried I would jinx it.
I didn't want to do it in 2024 because I was still worried I would jinx it.
I didn't do it this year because I was still worried I would jinx it.
But now that the Florida Panthers are back-to-back champs, I figured I'm playing with too much house money not to do it.
alex jones
Let's go, cats.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You're now Palziwonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, shout out to South Bend and Pete D. Thank you so much.
You're now Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And shout out to that couple at Calliope Beer Works that turned me on to Knowledge Fight.
Signed the chef.
Thank you so much.
You're now policywonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat in the mix.
So thank you so much to fellow policy wonk Holly.
Thank you for joining me in a really cool project.
Let me show my appreciation with this dope technocrat drop.
And remember, whoever stands against you is a loser, little titty baby.
Thank you so much, you're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Bomb, bomb, bump, bump, bump.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So we start off on the 25th.
jordan holmes
Wait, what question?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Calliope or calliope?
Is it calliope?
dan friesen
I don't know, maybe.
Okay.
Let's see.
I think it could be either.
jordan holmes
Ooh, dangerous.
alex jones
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right.
dan friesen
Calliope and Calliope would be spelled the same.
alex jones
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
We got to get that person on.
dan friesen
Either way.
Oh, what a shock.
I pronounced something wrong.
jordan holmes
No, no, I was just interested because it was the name of the bar, right?
dan friesen
It's a beer works.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think if you, whatever you think the pronunciation is, if you Google it, you can find it.
jordan holmes
No, I'm just interested because never mind.
dan friesen
Because you want some beer?
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
So send some beer.
So we start off today on the 25th, and there's some big news out of New York.
All right.
And that is Cuomo Dunn lost the primary.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Donnie.
Hardcore communist, anti-American, wants to get rid of all the police and have the U.N. occupy the U.S. That's the exact type of mayors they're putting in all over the U.K. and all over Europe.
That's the future.
The Islamic takeover.
And it's all part of the larger globalist strategy.
All right.
That's just part of what we're going to have coming up today.
But obviously the big news is I look at all the angles.
dan friesen
That is the big news.
jordan holmes
That is a pretty big.
dan friesen
It looks at every single angle.
jordan holmes
There are at least four.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Zoran Mamdani had won the primary for the New York mayoral race.
And honestly, this is perfect for Alex because no matter what happened there, he's got a perfect narrative.
You've got this guy who he can throw his bigoted shit at if Zorhan won.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
dan friesen
And then if Cuomo won, he could play like all these COVID hits.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, Lockdown, the king of the lockdown.
Yep.
So, yeah.
jordan holmes
There's nobody that Alex would be like, oh, I can't be mean to, of course.
But these are grooves.
This is like, you got to hit this out of the park.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
No matter who wins, he wins.
unidentified
Alex wins.
dan friesen
There's a narrative built in.
So he touches on the Minnesota assassinations.
Sure.
Which I'm shocked is still a subject on his show.
The way that the world kind of moved on, I would have thought he doesn't need to really talk about this anymore.
But he does bring up how everyone told him not to question things.
alex jones
And Mark Levin and others saying, now there's going to be terror attacks.
And when there is, you don't question where it came from.
We were told that a week and a half ago when we had the bizarre attack in Minnesota.
Two lawmakers shot.
Four people shot total, two dead.
Got a plastic mask.
Appointed by Tim Walls.
Wife's a Democrat.
They catch her with passports and guns, with other people's passports and guns.
You have the bizarre roommate clearly with scripted stuff saying, oh, yeah, he listens to InfoWars and love Trump like hours after it happens.
I was predicting the week before that we'd probably see some mass shootings of Democrats.
I don't know exactly what went on.
Now the guy tells the FBI, no, I'm working for Tim Walls.
I was going to kill Klobucher next because he wants her Senate seat.
I don't know.
But I mean, we've got to ask questions.
And the more questions we ask, they've got famous FBI profilers that have gone public watching the video of the roommate.
And they say, this is some of the most disingenuous statements and body language you basically ever seen.
I mean, the guy breaks the meter on the BS gauge.
It just breaks the needle, just slams so hard.
And so they're calling for a criminal investigation.
No kidding.
I mean, it's like you see, you're down the road, you see giant smoke in the distance.
There's obviously a fire.
You don't know exactly what's burning, but you know there's a big ass fire, so you go check the news.
I don't know.
So we're not, day one, do not question the narrative.
He is a MAGA supporter who loves InfoWars.
Do not question it.
And I'm like, no, I'm going to question that.
dan friesen
No one ever said don't question things.
No one has ever said that.
Like, I'm sure someone has said that at some point.
Most of the examples that I can come up with of someone being like, don't question this are from fiction.
They're from like movies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Typically, people are not like, hey, don't question things.
They're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
And I think that there's this distinction that's really important that I'm going to play a little piece of what he just did.
This is not questioning.
alex jones
Wife's a Democrat.
They catch her with passports and guns, with other people's passports and guns.
dan friesen
If you were sincerely questioning this event and you're like, huh, it's weird that the wife had a bunch of people and passports in the car, your path would be towards finding an answer because you're questioning things.
You're like, that's strange.
I should try and resolve that strangeness in my brain.
Then you would find out that it was her kids and then that strangeness goes away.
It's not that suspicious.
Alex isn't questioning things.
He's anti-questioning things.
He's using the suspicious detail and like adding these things onto each other in order to justify avoiding the conclusion that he wants you to avoid.
Which is this guy was a fan of his.
He loved Trump.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And this is part of the natural reaction and inevitable consequences of this kind of content.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
That stringing together thing, especially, like I was listening to that and I could hear like it's almost like those icebreaker games where it is like that conservative world.
You know, somebody says, oh, he was appointed by Tim Waltz.
And then the next person says, oh, and also he was this.
And until, and eventually that becomes something you have to say every time you introduce this guy.
Oh, he was this guy.
He was this suspicious thing.
I'm just questioning.
dan friesen
It's the same thing with Sandy Hook.
These are these anomalies that I just rattle off.
And all of them, if you actually cared about what looks weird about this, you could find the answer for it.
And everything is just over-inflated.
Like this top FBI profiler came.
You just saw a guy on YouTube.
This is nonsense.
You are not questioning.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is, I think.
It's hostile to questioning.
What Alex actually does and what he represents is a desperate plea to not question things.
jordan holmes
No, that's the social game of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is that you're so busy thinking of another thing to add on to the list that you don't actually question any of the things on the list.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You just think of new things to be suspicious about.
dan friesen
But the list is ironically titled How to Question or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How to question.
These things are the things that we don't have to question.
That's how you question things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's structurally bad.
jordan holmes
It's not helpful, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about Bolter, the shooter, the accused shooter, and his manifesto.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
But it looks like what his manifesto said, they're going to have multiple teams of loons go out and kill a bunch of Democrats to trigger a nationwide uprising to drive Trump out.
And it just fizzled because most people didn't do it.
But they got one guy who was willing to do it, or he was drugged up in a basement somewhere with electroshock, and then they roll out the Patsy.
I don't know.
But my point is, I am an expert on this.
I've studied it.
It's one of the key things the globalists do.
I've studied hundreds and hundreds of cases of documented false flags.
dan friesen
I've talked a lot of shit, so I know these things.
Now, Alex doesn't even know what his manifesto says.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, so there was reporting of a manifesto, and really it was just like the names of people he wanted to kill and addresses and websites where he can find addresses.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It was not a manifesto in a traditional sense.
And then there was the letter that he had left behind that was supposed to go to Kash Patel, the head of the FBI.
And in that letter, he's not Saying that he's working for Tim Walls and that Amy Klobuchar was next.
He was saying that Tim Walls wanted him to kill Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith, the two senators in Minnesota, so Tim Walls could take one of their seats.
He did not go along with that plan.
And in fact, these murders that he carried out were him trying to fight back against Tim Walls because Tim Walls had his family in.
So Alex is saying that, oh, yeah, his manifesto said he's working for Tim Walls and he was going to get Amy Klobuchar next is a fundamental misrepresentation even of the bullshit that Bolter wrote down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's not questioning anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I wonder if that's not just like a function of the world we live in now.
It's just like, you just assume, you assume those guys are going to have a manifesto.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know, so then you can make up whatever you want to say is in the manifesto because nobody's going to read that shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I've read a manifesto before.
dan friesen
I get it.
And also the stakes are incredibly low because it's like whatever he's saying in that letter, no one should take seriously to begin with.
So if you're making up stuff, you're not really disrespecting.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm lying on top of his bullshit.
I can't believe anybody would do that.
dan friesen
Stakes very low for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have a question for you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I know that...
I'm sorry to drag us all the way back, but this is a question, right?
So if you want the UN to police us, Do they have training in policing?
Are there like UN detectives?
dan friesen
Those UN peacekeepers.
jordan holmes
Sure, but I mean, like, do we have UN meter maids?
Do we have a UN full police force readily available to us?
dan friesen
In Chicago, all the parking meters are private.
So that's a good point.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
All right.
Well, I mean, you sell all your meters to China, and then, well, that'll happen.
All right.
Well, now you stand corrected.
I guess the UN's got it.
dan friesen
So we are in what they call a spiritual war.
Yes.
We know this.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
Doug has talked about it a lot.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And I'm only playing this clip for one really weird detail.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
alex jones
If you want real strategy, if you want to know what's really going on, if you want to defeat the globalist, I'm your man.
And they know it.
That's why I keep explaining that to everyone.
We've got the answers.
We've got the intel.
We know what the enemy plans are.
We know the different factions are.
But at the end of the day, it's a spiritual battle.
Evil is working through all these different organizations and groups towards the same goal.
Total enslavement and absorption of humanity into a transhuman hellscape.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Always remember that as the big picture.
Israel is not the enemy.
Iran is not the enemy.
China is not the enemy.
America is not the enemy.
England and Scotland are not the enemy.
Germany is not the enemy.
Russia is not the enemy.
Mexico is not the enemy.
Libya is not the enemy.
Britain.
El Salvador is not the enemy.
France is not the enemy.
The Belgian Congo is not the enemy.
jordan holmes
Three.
alex jones
Nigeria is not the enemy.
jordan holmes
Four.
alex jones
North Korea is not the enemy.
jordan holmes
Five.
alex jones
Evil people and evil methodologies, ideologies, and systems are the enemy.
dan friesen
You finally timed it out right.
jordan holmes
Perfectly.
He did exactly five.
dan friesen
Except he didn't.
He only did four.
The Belgian Congo hasn't existed since 1960.
jordan holmes
I wasn't going to give him that one, but I was like, hey, you know what?
What am I going to do?
What are we going to get to do?
dan friesen
What are we getting selfish because you wanted to?
jordan holmes
I wanted to get to five.
I wanted to get to five.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I wanted to get to five.
You're right.
dan friesen
Weird.
The Belgian Congo.
jordan holmes
Why did the Belgian Congo show up?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
What even is that?
It's what the Democratic Republic of Congo was called before independence.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, that's what, that's a country name that even people who don't fully remember Rhodesia are like, wow, that might be too racist.
dan friesen
Belgian Congo wasn't a name that was used in Alex's lifetime.
unidentified
Wild.
dan friesen
He was not born in 1960.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
unidentified
Weird.
dan friesen
I think that he just does not believe in self-determination for African countries and believes that any attempts to gain independence.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it should be erased from history, not just that.
dan friesen
Also, you know, when the Democratic Republic of Congo became independent, it was subsequently overthrown by U.S.-backed and Belgian-backed separatist groups.
jordan holmes
Wow, it's a good thing that that's only ever happened that one time.
dan friesen
Sure.
But the guy who took over, he actually employed Roger Stone, Roger Stone's firm as a PR thing.
You know, sometimes you say Roger was a lobbyist.
jordan holmes
Sometimes you say things, and I'm glad I'm not holding a match.
You know, because it's like, oh, yeah, that sounds nice.
dan friesen
Also, burn it all down.
jordan holmes
It's all gotta go.
dan friesen
Also, Roger Stone is a guest later on this episode.
jordan holmes
Of course, why not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Guy who used to do lobbying for the dictator of the...
jordan holmes
Why, hello, sir.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know why Alex decides to do this on this episode, but he starts to get really defensive about the idea that he stole his 9-11 prediction from Bill Cooper.
And so that becomes a bit of a focus.
alex jones
I'm famous for July 25th saying call the White House and saying the same thing.
They're going to blow up the World Trade Centers and blame it on their asset bin Laden and then bring in a police state.
But I actually said it way before that.
It's become quite the internet debate about who said it first.
jordan holmes
Has it?
alex jones
I don't care who said it first, though I said it first.
Everybody's looked.
It's true.
William Cooper said that they were getting ready to have terrorism and blame Bin Laden.
He did not say the World Trade Centers.
He did not say hijacked Jets Promote Control.
unidentified
I did.
alex jones
And I'm not in competition with William Cooper.
He's a very smart man, a nice man, a good man, a highly decorated veteran, Vietnam gunboat captain.
But he just did not like me, and that was a sad thing that he got very unstable, had a lot of PTSD, and had been yelling and shooting at his neighbors when they had bonfires that made too much noise.
And then he shot a sheriff's deputy in the face when they came up to his house about it.
And that's how he got killed.
jordan holmes
That will do that.
alex jones
And very, very sad.
And then it became an internet lie with no evidence that Cooper was killed to make way for Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
I don't think that.
alex jones
I can never listen to William Cooper because he was on a 10,000-watt shortwave station.
I listened to Troy all the time.
I was on WWCR, 100,000 watts.
I was always trying to listen, but could never hear it.
And his shows weren't really on the internet then.
After he died, they were.
Great shows, by the way.
Great guy.
What a broadcaster.
dan friesen
Here's how you know Alex is full of shit.
Bill was on WWCR, the station that Alex is saying is the big one.
Like, this is such trash.
Like, everything about this is just a guy being like, yeah, the guy I ripped off, I totally didn't know anything about him.
And like, oh, very sad.
It's crazy going through like the list of people that Alex just sort of cribbed from him.
There's all these guests that Bill had on that he would feature before Alex was ever on air.
Bill was a huge proponent of things like Waco being a conspiracy and OKC.
Alex just stole large chunks of this from him.
And you can tell that Alex is really defensive about it because the only way he can interact with it is by making fun of an even crazier conspiracy, which would be that Bill was killed so Alex could take his place or whatever.
No, he died because he lived what he believed.
And he didn't like you because he could tell you were an idiot.
You were a fraud.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that clip should definitely be available as something to diagram for people when they're in the middle of doing that.
Like, if you're feeling insecure, petty, and a little jealous about a dead person, these are the things you're going to do.
You're going to effusely praise them at first, but then at the end, little dig.
Little dig.
Why?
You didn't need to put that in there.
They're dead.
They can't fight back.
You did.
You did.
Then you just maybe got a little bit over-defensive about how you actually never even needed to know them in the first place.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe you did.
Maybe you didn't.
You don't need to worry about that.
And then eventually you say that they're a piece of shit.
dan friesen
It's fucking insane.
Like, Bill Cooper is not like a household name necessarily to everyone nowadays.
And maybe even wasn't then, but he was to people who would be in Alex's world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like militia, right-wing fucking types.
Alex is trying to play it up as like, oh, he was on a little tiny radio station and I could barely ever hear him.
I had no idea what he was talking about.
Behold the Pale Horse was one of the most important texts in this space.
It launched things like the silent weapons for quiet wars that Alex relies on.
It's crazy.
So full of shit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway.
But maybe Alex didn't steal his prediction because God talks to him.
Alex hears from God.
jordan holmes
I bet most of those guys have never even heard of the Turner Diaries either.
I bet they have no idea.
Never even heard of that shit.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Obscure little text.
jordan holmes
Too invisible.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about how God tells him things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's how he ended up predicting 9-11.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And when Trump would announce his victory.
jordan holmes
Oh, right.
I forgot.
We've got it that way.
alex jones
So I start saying to God, I say, fine, if you want me to show people you're real, fine, God.
Next time, just be very direct what I'm supposed to say.
So I'm sitting on an election night in this seat.
Owen is on the TV there.
He's in the other studio.
And I feel the presence.
It's like somebody standing behind you.
And I'm like, Owen's talking.
I'm like, okay, what am I supposed to do?
So I've been praying that morning about, okay, you want me to show people your power?
Show it.
Do it.
And God goes, or it feels more like, when I say God, it's like an angel.
Literally, it's like a, it's a presence, but it's not God, but it's from God.
And standing behind me, and I'm like, oh, you know, kind of like, it's not like hair on the back of your neck, like it's a Willie's.
It's more like a warm, but like a, oh, hello there.
And okay, what's the transmission?
And the angel, the watcher, whatever you want to call it, goes, Trump will, is going to win.
This is like at 10 o'clock at night when it wasn't clear.
Trump is going to win and he will announce it at 127.
And there was more.
I should have like time zone.
And then Owen's up there on the screen.
And I go, and I figure I should have just gone and said, God just told me this.
Instead, I, oh, God, that sounds cookie.
Even though I should just trust in God and do what God was telling me.
dan friesen
Here's a point I want to make very strongly.
Alex has no faith.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Alex is a coward and he is weak.
If you take him seriously and take him at his word, just go ahead and stipulate that all of this is real and all of this is true, then Alex is in for an ironic punishment from God because God has given him every opportunity to prove the existence of God and to be like real prophet.
And every single time Alex chickens out, every single time, the only evidence that we ever have of these things that God told him are things that have already happened.
They are things in the past.
Alex was fine predicting a time that Trump would announce.
But he wasn't comfortable saying, God told me it would be this time because that's too kooky.
jordan holmes
Didn't have faith.
Right.
dan friesen
Because he could be wrong.
And then he's going to look really silly later if I said that God told me it would be 127 and it was 2 in the morning.
jordan holmes
Yep.
alex jones
Right?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's too kooky.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Faithless fuck.
This guy is such an asshole.
jordan holmes
He is an asshole.
He is absolutely an asshole.
dan friesen
If I were God, I would give him a prediction and be like, you have to say that I told you this.
And then it'd be wrong.
That's what I would do.
I would be really worried if I were Alex about anything I Wanted to prophesy.
jordan holmes
Here's what I the thought occurred to me when Alex started.
I didn't get too much further past that because he was like, All right, God, but be real specific to me.
And then later, you know, he's like, It's not God, it's it, but it comes from God.
And I was like, That's really good.
It's really good that it's not God.
Because if God was visiting and you talked to him like that, nah, not going to happen.
You're God.
Well, be sure to be real directly.
Excuse me?
dan friesen
You don't know how, like, there might be some.
jordan holmes
Am I not doing anything on purpose?
I'm God.
dan friesen
Well, look, God, you know, there's a personal relationship they have with you.
And so maybe the way that you and God interact isn't the same as someone who's on high-level missions for God, like Alex.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
The two of them, they got locker room talks.
jordan holmes
That guy went into that whale for practically nothing compared to killing Gene Hackman.
dan friesen
True.
True.
Alex, I mean, every...
Right.
jordan holmes
Right after knocking off cheese.
Right.
dan friesen
You have to have faith.
It's an important aspect.
Doubting Thomas is doubting Thomas for a reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because he didn't have faith.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I just, I want more out of a profit than what Alex is giving me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
The thing about faith is that if you are trying to prove it, you have misunderstood the point.
You fully misunderstood the point.
dan friesen
And if you want to demonstrate it, then you can't just be like, oh man, God told me to do that and then I didn't.
Oh, I should have done it.
unidentified
Yep.
That's not helpful.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's not helpful.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Also, telling God to be real direct with you, not going to help you in the long run.
Not going to help you in the long run.
It doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
Listen, I'm gonna be a stickler on this point.
I think maybe requesting directness from God is But either way, Alex should be like really head on a swivel for a smiting because he's disrespecting God.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think it's the, you know, it's the telling people about it after the fact that would really grind my gears if I was God, if I'm sitting here going like, I have given you the chance to be a celebrated prophet, to be known across this world, because word's going to spread.
This guy is right.
Word's going to spread.
I have given you this opportunity.
And you're going to pussyfoot around it and be like, well, I've got the time zone wrong.
unidentified
It's too cookie.
jordan holmes
Screw you.
unidentified
And I didn't screw you.
dan friesen
And then you say God told me this because it's too kooky to say something like that.
jordan holmes
Oh, are you embarrassed of me?
dan friesen
Are you embarrassed to be talking to an angel?
jordan holmes
I'm embarrassed of me.
dan friesen
Right.
You think talking to an angel is crazy?
jordan holmes
Do we not go out on dates?
Is that what's going on now?
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Jesus, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would be like, I'm going to die in an ironic, horrible way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I did just treat God like my side piece, so that's not good.
dan friesen
And that's the other thing, too, is that it's not just once.
No.
jordan holmes
Multiple times.
dan friesen
God has to be interacting with Alex with a like, dude, again?
I fell for this again?
jordan holmes
You keep disappointing me.
It is either that or it is he has created a man who cannot fundamentally listen to God, which is an achievement along the lines of, can God make a mountain that he can't move?
So, of course he's fucking with them.
Why wouldn't you?
This is a monumental achievement.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets on to taking some calls.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he wants to take calls from people who disagree with him.
And one of them is a caller from Israel.
And they're trying to explain, like, hey, if we don't do all these wars, Israel will be destroyed.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex is like, what about 9-11?
jordan holmes
Boom!
alex jones
And Israel's basically won your 600-day war.
It's not a 12-day war.
You've won, and then it gets too dangerous to keep going here.
That is what I'm saying to you.
And we got regime change.
It could be something even worse.
So you get my point.
unidentified
Yes, I do.
Yes, I do.
I'm not going to.
jordan holmes
I still am judging Netanyahu.
alex jones
Have you studied 9-11?
unidentified
Yes, I have.
I've been listening to you for almost 20 years, sir.
alex jones
Well, then you know, and I don't just say it's Netanyahu, the military industrial complex ran it.
The remote control, taking over NORAD, taking over the FAA computers.
I mean, they flew those planes and they were remote control.
I mean, the two stewardesses that got calls out on the airphones said they were being gassed inside the plane.
It wasn't a hijacking.
jordan holmes
Did you have made a call from the plane at that time?
I'm not sure.
alex jones
No, no, those calls were confirmed.
No.
One to the airline, one to her husband.
dan friesen
So Betty Ong was a flight attendant on American Airlines Flight 11, and she was able to make a call to the airline during the hijacking.
She reported that there had been people stabbed and hijackers were in the cockpit.
She also said it was hard for anyone to make it to the front of the plane to assess the situation because she thought someone had used mace.
There's no evidence that people are being gassed on the planes or that they were being flown by remote control, but it's very notable that Alex is talking a lot more 9-11 stuff in recent days.
I suspect that he thought that blaming Israel for 9-11 would make him too in line with the neo-Nazi types in the right wing, but that isn't really a concern for him anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, now you might as well blame 9-11 on Israel.
dan friesen
And also going back over some of this stuff, like I can't tell you how disrespectful I feel it is to talk about these people's phone calls.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because if you go back over, a lot of, or not a lot, but a fair amount of people were able to get calls out of United 93.
Yeah.
And the power of that last moment of the people are just telling people they love them.
You know, being so disrespectful to the, and it's really emotionally impactful to go back and read some of those transcripts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a big, that's a big nope.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Fuck you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
Come on.
Like, that's just one of those things where it's like, of all the things that you can be a psychopath about, I even understand murdering people more than I understand that shit.
What are you fucking doing?
dan friesen
I don't want, you know, I don't ever want to go listen to these tapes or anything.
unidentified
No, not at all.
dan friesen
Even if they are available.
But if you go and read the transcripts, some of them end with, you know, it's like a husband or a loved one on the phone, and it ends with screaming.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
Some of it is implied that the planes crashed while the people were leaving a message on a voicemail.
It's like, that's.
jordan holmes
Fucking hell.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex should not be dealing with any of that territory.
It's very disrespectful.
jordan holmes
Serial killers are in prison going like, come on, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
dan friesen
That's tacky.
Yeah.
So one of the most exciting things that I think has happened in recent memory on the show was when Alex sat down with Chase Geyser and he told him, I'm thinking about calling in the angel of death.
jordan holmes
That was very exciting.
Yeah.
The stakes were high.
dan friesen
And Chase took it as a very serious proposition.
jordan holmes
He really did.
dan friesen
And Alex said that he was going to have to talk to his minister.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He's going to have to really pray on it.
jordan holmes
Going to have to pray on it.
dan friesen
And we're back to that.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because I feel like that was when things were at a low point with them in the election area.
And then things got a lot better.
So no more Angel of Death time.
Now we're back to Angel of Death Time.
dan friesen
Well, you see, the trustee in Alex's bankruptcy case has decided Alex's dad and his wife have to give back that money that he transferred.
jordan holmes
Stole the money they stole?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So this is going to kill Alex's dad, probably.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
dan friesen
Alex's dad is in bad health, and the stress and the strain of this lawsuit is going to kill him, which is the globalists trying to murder him.
jordan holmes
That does make sense.
dan friesen
And in response, Alex's going to have to call in the angel of death.
alex jones
He has his aorta at 8-millimeter balloon aneurysm, or whatever you call it.
He's got his brain stem blocked.
Sometimes he's coach it.
Other times he's a zombie and is drooling.
And his lawyers know that, that are Democrats.
We've gotten rid of him.
And they go, oh, God, Dr. Jones is about to die.
So let's sue him again to mess with Alex Jones while they accuse me of harassing him.
That's the reality.
And I don't want your sympathy.
Listen, my dad's been a great man.
He's a great guy.
I love the death he listens to the show.
He's probably listening right now.
I've been so busy, I barely even go see him.
And his daughters are like, we're not sure.
We should do the aortic surgery.
We can't do the brainstem surgery.
Maybe you should just not do it.
He's like, no, I want to do the surgery.
But they think my dad dies with this surgery coming up in a month.
They think that makes me go cry and get in a fetal position and piss all over myself.
You got the opposite.
I'm praying when I go to bed that God deliver vengeance on you.
No violence by any person.
No violence against people.
No, I'm praying to God that he's going to send vengeance on you, just like I did.
A few months ago, I got on my knees at 5 a.m. when I woke up and I said, Heavenly Father, I am asking you to send your angels against these people and against the state receiver they put in.
And I was blown away when he committed suicide a few days later.
So all I'm telling people is, if Moses could call down the angel of death, I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm just telling everybody right there, I'm praying to God every day for justice.
And if you think killing my father, if you think that will break my will, then you have no idea.
Because anything I ask God for, I get.
But God is so awesome and totally powerful, I am ashamed to do it.
The prayers in my life, I could count on one hand I asked for.
And I've been given everything I ever asked for from God.
So you keep laughing, leftist.
You keep making your jokes.
You keep saying God doesn't exist.
And I assure you, just as much as that sun's going to set tonight and is going to come back up in the morning, that God will serve justice on you.
But in the meantime, if you don't back what we've done.
jordan holmes
You motherfucker.
alex jones
If you don't stand up, you piece of shit.
jordan holmes
You fucking asshole.
You fucking asshole.
alex jones
You're a fool.
Go now to thealishowstore.com.
dan friesen
Death, please.
jordan holmes
I've, okay.
Okay.
I've got a new idea for a law, all right?
I don't care what it is you want to do.
If you can go up to 10,000 people consecutively and all of them agree with you, all 10,000, all strangers, you get to do it.
I don't even care what it is, right?
Because I feel like if I took that clip and I went up to 10,000 individual people in a row, no idea who they are, and I just played it for them and I was like, hey, should this guy be put in a safer room?
They would be like, yeah, absolutely.
This guy's nuts.
That guy's crazy.
unidentified
Well, I don't, you know.
jordan holmes
He took responsibility for a man committing suicide three days later because of his prayers.
That's a man admitting to a murder, I think.
dan friesen
He didn't take responsibility for it.
He just said it's a mystery.
jordan holmes
I feel like that is admitting a murder through God.
If God's your murder weapon, you're still a murderer.
dan friesen
I think it's not so much confessing to a murder as saying, isn't that interesting?
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess that's not quite the same as confessing to a murder, but if I'm looking at a man who's got a big knife in it and I was holding that knife, I went, well, that's pretty interesting.
dan friesen
Snife's interesting.
jordan holmes
It's a pretty interesting knife.
Whoever bought that, real smart guy.
dan friesen
Snife might go into you.
jordan holmes
It's a real smart guy in the future.
dan friesen
I might pray for ghosts to come attack you.
jordan holmes
What are the rules on...
dan friesen
I didn't pull this clip because it's long and meandering.
But he's talking about Tucker and how he got attacked by a demon.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he's saying that, like, oh, man, the globalists must have been killing and torturing children in a ritual chamber in order to conjure that demon.
Like, it must have taken so much energy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So what was he doing in order to call the angel of death?
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
What's the equivalent exchange here?
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There is some need for spiritual power to have called down the angel of death.
But I guess Alex is probably his answer to that would be like, only the evil people need to do evil.
The good people can just pray and God will do it.
That feels the way around it.
jordan holmes
That feels very convenient.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, almost suspiciously convenient.
alex jones
Quite.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Quite.
Now, while we're on the subject of things that are fucking horribly disrespectful, I didn't look into whoever this person he's talking about is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, please.
dan friesen
So I don't know if that's true.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
I don't want anything to do with it.
dan friesen
I don't know what...
Agreed.
It's disgusting on its own.
And then the fact that all of this is a lead-in to a plug is like, what?
jordan holmes
I felt it.
I felt it coming because listen, we've been doing this long enough that even like I have a logical part of my brain that's like, eh, this might not be it, but my visceral attack forces me to move.
It's like, no, get out of the way.
This man is coming.
But at the same time, there's like, there's no way you can end the, I'm pretty sure I prayed for that man's death and then he died speech with, and that's why you gotta buy methylene blue.
dan friesen
Yeah, you gotta buy my CMOS so I can afford to call down the angel of death on people.
unidentified
I put it to you thusly.
jordan holmes
The day I find out that I have the power to murder people through prayer is the day I stop worrying about money.
I don't need to worry about money at all.
dan friesen
Let me flip it on Ted.
I just figured it out.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So the globalists, they need to do these child sacrifices in order to conjure demons.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex has figured out that he can just defraud people.
So these desperate sales pitches are actually him doing evil that gathers the satanic energy that he needs to send the angel of death on people.
jordan holmes
This makes sense to me.
dan friesen
Right.
That's why this is so obviously.
jordan holmes
It's the most disgusting thing that you can think of to do.
So that's how you get the demon.
dan friesen
So the truth is he does need you to buy the sea moss because you need to complete the fraud in order to get the ritual.
jordan holmes
And that's why.
So are we saying that Alex is sending demons to Tucker Carlson to fuck with him?
dan friesen
It could have been a false flag.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
We got a false flag.
I knew we were going to get there eventually.
There was going to be a false flag demon attack.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, you're just going to take the demon's word for it.
Bad demon.
No.
alex jones
Bad.
dan friesen
Quibono.
jordan holmes
Qui bono.
Who benefits?
dan friesen
So we jump to the 28th.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
And Alex has a big story that he needs to cover.
So much so.
unidentified
What's it?
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
You know, sometimes it feels like we just move over a man saying that he can commit murder through God prayers.
Yep.
And then he does too, which I feel like is not fair.
dan friesen
Nope.
There's no continuity.
You know, just nothing, nothing exists.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Tomorrow doesn't exist.
Yesterday is dead.
jordan holmes
It's an amazing life.
It's an amazing life.
dan friesen
So he comes in on his day off.
It's a Saturday.
And he comes in because this news is just so important.
alex jones
The first big story I want to hit, I'm going to mention some others first, is the near hysteria that I started seeing start yesterday afternoon on X and everywhere else.
It's not just the left, the Krazentine brothers doing it.
It's a lot of other people.
And I'm not criticizing people for saying, because we're in a crazy climate.
I mean, who knows?
But they started putting up barricades and fences yesterday, evening, afternoon, around the White House, around the Treasury, and now other buildings have had them put up.
This is done on a routine basis when there's big demonstrations coming.
But the White House has not yet said why they're doing it.
So now, oh, Trump's about to make a huge announcement on the economy.
It's going to be something very controversial.
It's going to be something that's going to cause the left to riot.
I will tell you 100% that's not true.
All of Trump's policies are transparent.
He telegraphs everything he's going to do.
You know exactly what he's going to do when it comes to policy on economics.
He does exactly what he says he will do.
dan friesen
So the tariff thing would beg to differ.
But Alex's story is that people are saying stuff on Twitter.
That's it.
Got to do a special report because people are saying things on Twitter.
There's a Twitter hysteria going around.
Great.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
So they're putting up barricades around the White House.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And like the dumb dumbs on the left, like the Krassenstein brothers, they're like, oh, no, Trump's going to give bad economic news.
Nah.
Trump's straight up with economics.
Probably, maybe the White House is going to get nuked.
jordan holmes
That's really more important.
alex jones
Now we're back on board.
Now we're back flying around the Treasury building and around the Capitol and around the White House in these square grids.
And according to witnesses, the footage is blurry, but I've seen some of the witnesses see it up close.
They're military veterans.
These helicopters have big sensor pods hanging off the bottom.
That's what you've got when you're looking for nuclear material or other things.
So I'm not saying this couldn't be some big emergency.
I'm not saying that the executive branch and the Pentagon isn't gearing up and DHS for some type of terror attack.
They've got a lot of intelligence on that.
As you know, they raised the threat level a few weeks ago.
But it's definitely not going to be some big, unpopular announcement from Trump on the economy or on some treasury policy because he understands you've got to be very clear about economics.
You've got to put out your plan.
You've got to steadfastly promote it or it creates instability, even if you've got a good plan.
dan friesen
This sounds more hysterical than what Alex seems to be responding to.
Like they might be worried that the White House is going to get nuked.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hey, they're pulling up barricades so they might get nuked.
It makes sense.
dan friesen
They got those helicopters going around trying to sniff up the nuclear stuff.
jordan holmes
They're going to sniff up the nuclear stuff.
dan friesen
also, I think there's just pure comedy in Alex saying they raised the threat level.
Like, didn't, like, wasn't this something we made fun of during the Iraq war with the color coding system?
And, like, Alex could see through that then.
He can't now?
jordan holmes
Well, he couldn't.
He could if there was something to see through, but because Trump is so fucking transparent, there's nothing to see through.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
Well, he said he was going to not bomb Iran, and then he did, and then he said he wanted regime change, and then he didn't.
So he's very transparent.
jordan holmes
I mean, in a way, he is very, like, you shouldn't be too surprised.
So if you're saying that he's predictable in the sense that I would not be surprised by what happens, I suppose there may be something there.
But that surprise is just based upon, oh, this man's going to be a craven, evil asshole.
dan friesen
Expect the unexpected is not good.
jordan holmes
That's not really a prediction.
dan friesen
Not really.
So there's these people who are saying it's a treasury policy or whatever that Trump's going to announce is going to be bad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then there's other people like Alex who are saying maybe these helicopters are flying overhead, sniffing around for nukes.
But the reality is that there was a protest that got canceled that was supposed to happen that day.
And Alex knows it and even brings it up.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I wouldn't play this except I think that this is some amazing comedic timing.
So mic down for this because you've got to hear the chops here.
alex jones
This is, I'd say, a 95% chance, and I'll show you an overhead shot right here, that everything you're seeing in D.C. right now is in response to the national march on Washington, stop the war on Iran, Saturday, June 28th, 1 p.m.
Which we're coming up on in just a few minutes.
But it was canceled a few days ago.
But just in case you're wondering why the barricades offenses are being put up around the White House tonight, here's your answer.
There's a march tomorrow to protest the Iran war.
Yes, they are protesting the war that's already over.
Well, actually, they canceled it, but that didn't get any attention.
I believe that that is what this is.
Not some big economic announcement.
Not a terror attack.
But you throw the helicopters in that are just, again, flying in these square patterns around each building and up the streets and everything.
And they don't just do that to burn gasoline.
And it's jet fuel.
It's not.
It's gasoline.
It's not.
Some use jets.
It doesn't matter.
The point is, is that this is how you analyze things.
dan friesen
That's really funny.
That is so funny.
He does not need to be funny at all, but arguing with himself about gasoline versus jet fuel is hysterical.
The fact that he does the last beat that he does there of jet fuel, that's so funny.
jordan holmes
That is like a, for a brief moment, for a brief moment, we zoom in on his eye, and then we go through until there's a blank space, and there's just two Alexes just going like, jet fuel.
Gasoline, jet fuel, gasoline, jet fuel, gasoline.
All right, we're going to end up there.
dan friesen
It's just muttering.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
It's the best.
I think that's pure comedy.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
It's not something he's doing to be funny.
Nope.
This doesn't lead to him coming off on a good riff or something.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
But it's just great.
jordan holmes
And it's not to obtain the most accurate information.
It's not going to help him.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make the show move better.
dan friesen
And we can enjoy it because it's not really offensive.
No.
jordan holmes
It's just good old-fashioned, clean, dumb-dumb fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we move on to talking about Zorhan and the New York mayoral race that Alex cares quite a bit about because this guy hates whites.
alex jones
I want to look at this mayoral Democrat primary winner.
Does Morse come out on him?
He's even worse than I thought.
I mean, this guy.
And I've got a whole folder on who's behind him.
And it's Bernie Sanders, and it's really the core of what the Democrat Party is now.
You know, there's two wings of it.
One trying to reform, at least in rhetoric, and act like they're not so anti-American and evil and dangerous.
And the other that's like, no, we want to overthrow the country.
We hate capitalism.
We hate white people.
And he's literally calling for higher taxes on white people.
I mean, it's just, it's all as if white people statistically have all the money.
I mean, yeah, if you add the billionaires in, they do.
But out of the top 10 wealthiest groups per capita by race, seven of them are Asian, the first seven.
And then whites.
jordan holmes
What is this?
What is happening?
alex jones
It goes down from that.
Hispanics, blacks, and others.
So it's just this lie that white people are all daddy warbucks.
I mean, go drive around any city or any town.
dan friesen
What about those billionaires, though?
So the Mamdani campaign put out a policy statement that included their idea to fix the property tax system in New York.
It included the line, quote, shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods.
The word white was used, so this is basically genocide.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
It's easy for someone like Alex to get his feelings hurt in a situation like this, but if he were to read the whole thing, it would make a lot more sense.
What the Mamdani campaign is saying is that there are tax assessment caps in these richer neighborhoods, but no caps in areas like Jamaica and Brownsville.
As property values have risen, that's raised the tax burden for people in areas where there is no assessment cap, but it hasn't affected the richer neighborhoods in the same way, effectively automatically shifting a larger tax burden onto homeowners in these less affluent areas.
This is pretty easy stuff to understand, and I guess if Alex didn't present it as some kind of a race thing, he would have to just come out and say that he thinks that rich people are better than poor people and they deserve to, you know, be I mean, it is so fun sometimes whenever you hear these types of policies where it's like, oh, what's happened is this.
jordan holmes
This is a comically unfair policy that only exists because rich people are able with both time and money to get this stuff passed through shit that none of you could ever even dream of doing.
And because they have the time and money, they get to do it without you noticing.
So now here we are, and you're noticing there's no way to defend this policy.
dan friesen
If you're working multiple jobs and like renting an apartment and getting by, you don't know a lot about assessment caps.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's because it's not something that's germane to your survival.
Yep.
And through some of these systems, you're able to create this imbalance that is what Mamdani in his campaign is seeking to readjust and get back on a more equal footing.
But I guess.
jordan holmes
And you know what?
Here's what it is.
Here's what I think about it that gets me.
It's so comically unfair that I think everybody should be able to agree with it.
There's no way that even if you're in these neighborhoods, you can't look at that and be like, well, then the answer is obviously to keep mine capped and keep theirs uncapped.
That's crazy.
Either both of us get it capped or both of us get it uncapped.
That's fine, right?
Because it's this obvious, I should, just by noticing it, they should go like, ah, you caught us.
We got away with it for like 10 years, though, right?
Isn't that crazy?
All right, we're done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
jordan holmes
Should be like that.
We were fucking with you.
You get it.
dan friesen
I guess the fear of that is then like, well, but now sue you for the unjust gains that you've made over the last year.
jordan holmes
There we go.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
People don't want to open themselves up to that.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So no one did anything wrong.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit about feminism.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Guess what?
He doesn't love it.
jordan holmes
Why not?
He loves the ladies, as he said before on this very family-based show.
dan friesen
Yeah, he can't not fuck.
Yeah.
But he thinks that women are unhappy nowadays, and it's because they need men to be whole.
jordan holmes
Sounds true.
alex jones
It's policies that impoverish the average person, no matter what color you are.
And the globalists want you poor and want you to not have skills.
So you're what?
Domesticated and under their control.
They also want to split up families.
They want to teach women, as they did with the CIA and Gloria Steineman work for the CIA and Miss Magazine, that ever, you know, having a husband, having a baby, slavery.
And now statistics have been out for decades.
And it just gets worse and worse.
Women are more depressed, more unhappy than ever.
So are men.
Women are saying everywhere, where are the men?
Young women I know are literally saying the guys just want to play video games.
They don't even want women.
It's not that they're even gay.
They just, you know, what's wrong with them?
There's big articles in the New York Times, Washington Post this week, where have all the men gone?
That's coming up.
Well, you got a bunch on average entitled, spoiled women that have been taught they don't need a man.
And so you're not even following your biological directive, your main drive state, and then you wonder why you're so unhappy.
But men are on average more self-sufficient than women.
That's in all mammal species.
And so they're just off doing their own thing.
And then the women are like, God, we're totally depressed on SSRIs.
What the hell?
Well, you got taught by the CIA that you don't need a man.
And that's all globalist policy to break down society.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
What about fuck individualism?
Individualism is about men.
Men are individuals.
This is insane.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that women were happier when we didn't ask women any questions or allow them to tell us the answers to those questions.
That's what it makes perfect sense.
Are you happier now?
You can answer, so that means the answer is no.
Makes sense.
dan friesen
I just, I'm baffled.
I'm baffled by this kind of an expression.
Well, I guess I'm not.
It's just kind of clear for Alex.
You know, like he just thinks that women need men.
Like that they are incomplete without a male counterpart.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He does not feel the same way about a man.
It does not feel like the way it does not go in both directions.
jordan holmes
Do you know what it?
Okay.
All right.
I put this forth.
Okay.
If somebody started playing an edited together nature documentary, right?
Just, but with no narration over it, and then just forced Alex to start just talking about it, he would talk about it as if he was the expert on all of the stuff that he's watching.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, there's no way.
dan friesen
I bet he would.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no way that you can't be like, wow, see, the male of the mammal species, like, what are you doing?
dan friesen
I bet it wouldn't even just be like nature documentaries.
You could just put on anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he would just know everything about everything.
jordan holmes
See, now this is how you bake the fucking bread.
This is why we're, what are we doing?
dan friesen
Yeah, he knows everything.
Broad spectrum.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a real broad spectrum guy.
dan friesen
So he plays a clip of Mamdani speaking at a place where there's some Muslims around.
And I will say that this is just 35 seconds of hate speech.
jordan holmes
And I tell you.
alex jones
Here is what the Osama bin Laden look like.
jordan holmes
That we have an opportunity.
Starting tomorrow for early voting.
alex jones
Guarantee that fat Imam's on three welfare checks came and wipe his ass.
jordan holmes
What want that?
alex jones
These people are disgusting.
They want to come here and tell us how we suck and try to conquer us.
Islam means submission.
And they tell us how much we suck.
And Islam's like 90% allied with communism and the left.
I'm just sorry, it's cancer.
jordan holmes
At 10% of us.
On the next election, only 7% of us voted.
unidentified
Now, I will not judge anyone.
alex jones
Bin Laden's sitting on a toilet right there.
He's taking a dump.
dan friesen
This is not meaningful outside of just being hate.
That's all he's doing.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
If you're making up stereotypes in the moment that have never existed before, just to be like, look at how evil those guys are, I don't know what else to say.
dan friesen
Some of these stereotypes probably have traction in white supremacist communities.
Right.
That just doesn't hit you.
Exactly.
You're not even getting the shorthand because you're not in these bigot communities the way Alex clearly is.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Like stereotypes.
dan friesen
Twitter now, I guess.
jordan holmes
Stereotypes are offensive for that reason of being a shorthand to use that.
So if I haven't even heard the stereotype, that's how Racist, it is.
dan friesen
It's a real disgusting picture that Alex is painting.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex talking about how he's thrilled with the police state.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it could be worse.
It could be the UN.
I hear they don't even handle parking tickets anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, they've really let it slide.
But Trump has got a great police state going.
alex jones
And you got this huge talking point.
We are not safe in America today.
These American citizens say they were detained by ICE.
Well, you're with a bunch of illegal aliens.
They're going to check your ID.
What about the state of the tens of thousands dead from illegal aliens every year?
Murdered, killed, raped, drunk driving deaths.
What about the million, 200,000 different fentanyl in the last few years?
dan friesen
If you're an American citizen and you're associating with people that ICE might think are undocumented immigrants, then you don't have basic civil rights, according to Alex.
Alex supports the police demanding your papers to prove that you're a citizen.
It's not really important because hypocrisy isn't a thing that Alex cares about and none of his positions are sincere.
But since we live in a reality that features object permanence, I just want to point out how this clip is a fundamental rejection of the premise that Alex's career is based on.
The idea that he could be fine with police, especially federal law enforcement, being able to behave in a papers please kind of way, is incompatible with anything he's supposed to stand for.
It would be impossible to sincerely hold the positions he's made his career on and say something like that.
For instance, just as an example of this, on May 2nd, a U.S. citizen teenager named Kenny Linais Ambrosio was pulled over on his way to work and detained by Border Patrol.
He said that he had rights, to which the officer said, quote, you have no rights here.
This is happening a bunch, and Alex fundamentally agrees with that cops.
You now have the rights that the state wants to recognize.
And Alex supports that, as opposed to pretending that that's not what America is about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's where we are.
jordan holmes
What a weird job.
That has to, like, it has to be a combination of it.
Like, it turns you crazy and also it attracts crazy.
Because the idea of a Border Patrol officer saying, like, what are you, fucking Judge Dredd?
What are you doing?
You, like, that guy goes home after work.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then he, like, watches a show.
He's not like a cartoon super villain wandering around with super armor or anything like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
A regular guy.
It's a combination probably of bad culture trying to impress each other among officers.
And then also Trump has created essentially quotas.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So you create a workforce that's incentivized toward the outcome that involves pretending you're this super cop.
Crazy.
jordan holmes
Just lunacy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's all really, really bad.
And, God, the guy Alex pretended to be would be furious about this stuff.
I mean, it's just, it's parody levels of what he's fine with.
jordan holmes
It is at the level of like when he watches Casablanca, he's like, why is everybody being so mean to these Nazis?
They're just trying to keep order.
It's crazy being in Africa.
dan friesen
Yeah, what about the police state of not being under Nazi rule?
jordan holmes
Right?
I mean, the guy's still, he should be grateful he's still allowed to run his bar.
I mean, sure, he's got to bribe people.
dan friesen
Won't you think of the Belgian Congo?
jordan holmes
Ah, won't you?
The rallying cry of the new left.
dan friesen
King Leopold is right.
That's the Alex Jones message.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what?
If there was going to be a great, simple summation of all the evil that this world could produce, King Leopold was right is probably right there.
dan friesen
And that's on Alex's new shirt that he'll be selling at one of his fake fucking websites that he uses to avoid paying families what he owes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, this guy sucks.
And we got to barrel on.
jordan holmes
We got to get to the FCC.
dan friesen
We got to get the FC.
jordan holmes
Skip ahead.
dan friesen
Alex has had his crisis about the Iran situation.
There's a disillusionment, but it was not enough to shake him off Trump.
But looming right around the corner.
Laura looming right around the corner.
jordan holmes
Laura Looming.
dan friesen
Is the Epstein bomb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll get that.
dan friesen
And it's ticking.
It's ticking, baby.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is so interesting to spend all of this time in there because I know we all existed in this time leading up to Epstein.
But to watch other people exist in the time not knowing that Epstein's coming, you know, it is like, look at all the things that you think are so important right now and next week will mean nothing.
They will be meaningless nothingness.
dan friesen
And I really do think that this timeline is fairly important.
That like Alex is on a little bit of a back foot because of the Iran-Israel thing, him shifting and being like, no more, Mr. Nice Guy.
I hate Israel now.
Fuck you.
Maybe Nazis are cool.
Like this is a wobbly stance for him to be on.
So for the Epstein thing to come along at that time is really poor timing for him.
He's not braced for impact.
And that's why I've felt like we should live in this space a little bit before lighting that fuse.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But that fuse is lit, baby.
jordan holmes
It's time to go.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So we'll be back to talk about some of that.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
alex jones
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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