#1059: June 24, 2025
In this installment, Dan and Jordan bear witness to Alex's continued descent into explicit antisemitic content, including some esoteric nonsense about the Star of David and a creepy attempt to pick a fight with Laura Loomer.
July 25, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
01:52:51
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| Knowledge fight Dan and Jordan, I am sweating knowledgefight dot com dot It's time to pray. | ||
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I have great respect for knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight Dan and Jordan. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Need money. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
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Andy and Kansas. | |
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for all this. | ||
|
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Hello Alex. | |
| I'm a big fan of the same color as you're saying. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Not knowledgefight dot com dot I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back, Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes. | ||
| Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Joe. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, bud? | ||
| My bright spot today, I'm going to say, is actually a fork in the road. | ||
| A fork in the road? | ||
| No, that's the wrong metaphor. | ||
| It's two pronged. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The first is I forgot this person's name, but they'll know who they are. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They forwarded me an email. | ||
| After our last episode, I talked about how I was sad that I didn't have a Switch 2. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Because I wanted to play Donkey Kong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And someone messaged and offered to sell me one at a retail value. | ||
| They did. | ||
| Because they had somehow had another one. | ||
| Magic. | ||
| And it was such a sweet offer, you know. | ||
| And the message was about, you know, like the feelings of like, I related to what it's like to not be able to hang out with your buddy Donkey Kong. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And it made me realize, like, I do, I need to, I need to play this Donkey Kong. | ||
| So it was a very nice offer. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that I really appreciated a lot. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So that's one bright spot. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And then the second bright spot is I didn't take this person on that offer, but I did get the Switch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I've been playing the shit out of Donkey Kong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Nailed it. | ||
| I'm wearing yellow top and brown pants. | ||
| Because of Donkey Kong? | ||
| Is the closest thing in my garderobe that I felt was Donkey Kong themed. | ||
| Is that to record so you can get a little Donkey Kong into this episode? | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Okay, all right. | ||
| Whoa, I don't I don't know how I feel about that. | ||
| My chest. | ||
| That may be a little too aggressive. | ||
| I'm not a Donkey Kong. | ||
| I've got through a fair amount of this game, but I think there's still a lot to uncover. | ||
| I've found Cranky Kong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Rambi, the rhinoceros. | ||
| Who's your favorite Kong? | ||
| Dixie. | ||
| Dixie is your favorite Kong? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And you? | ||
| Oh, I mean King, obviously, top of the list. | ||
| That, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| How does he fit, how does he fit into the family? | ||
| That's actually a really good question. | ||
| Because the original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong. | ||
| Right, but I mean, you have to expect that because of the Kong moniker, they are somehow related to King Kong, right? | ||
| They're giant apes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Kong, it's got to be King Kong. | ||
| So is King Kong the progenitor? | ||
| Is he the oldest of all? | ||
| I think it must be, or at least like he's an uncle or something. | ||
| He's, you know, like he's in the mix, right. | ||
| Somewhere in their lineage. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I know a lot of their family relations. | ||
| You know, I know how their family tree works, but I don't, because I don't think Nintendo owns King Kong. | ||
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Okay, so I don't know if he can legally be a part of the family. | |
| So he's brought over from Skull Island to the United States. | ||
| Early, early what, early ten, early twenty, somewhere around there, put on display, climbs the tower, grabs the girl, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| Now, are we saying that the girl and the Kong and now we have multiple Kongs? | ||
| Is that what we're saying here? | ||
| You mean like terms of like, did they get married? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I was that's what I was thinking you were getting at. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And that's how we get Donkey Kong. | ||
| That's how we copy Donkey Kong. | ||
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It's great. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I don't, I don't, I don't know. | ||
| Who's your favorite Donkey Kong in the canonical? | ||
| The Donkey Kong franchise. | ||
| I will tell you this. | ||
| I think you don't know. | ||
| My memory no, my favorite is Diddy. | ||
| And my memory of why is fairly simple. | ||
| Playing Donkey Kong Country, I would always end up losing Diddy and he would go, and then you jump on the box and Diddy would reappear. | ||
| You throw a barrel. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| You jump on a box to get Rambi or Espresso. | ||
| Fair enough, fair enough for a guard. | ||
| So you throw a barrel and then without skipping a beat, he does a little flip, gets right back behind you. | ||
| I don't know why that I always appreciated that a great deal. | ||
| He's loyal. | ||
| Yeah, he's having a great time. | ||
| He's ready to go. | ||
| It was just like, ah, no big deal. | ||
| I fell on those spikes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would always play it with my brother and I was always forced to be Donkey Kong because I was a big boy. | ||
| I was a thick, thick young boy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he was more of a smaller, agile, cool guy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So he was more of a diddy. | ||
| He was a diddy and you were a cooler because he's the young guy. | ||
| I mean, you know, in the nineties, if you have a hat, you're cooler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I always had that, I always felt forced to be Donkey. | ||
| But then I kind of made peace with it. | ||
| Now you wear it as a badge of pride. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then the second game came along and we were introduced to Dixie and she could make a propeller with her hair. | ||
| That's pretty cool. | ||
| She could float a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's way too cool for all of it. | ||
| But I'm enjoying the hell out of Donkey Kong Bonanza. | ||
| And what it is such a good thing to be playing while I listen to Infowars. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because you're just punching. | ||
| Because you're smashing shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're just breaking walls down and rampaging. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| It's very cathartic in that setting. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So what about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Tyler the Creator's got a new album. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's someone who has a very interesting career trajectory. | ||
| He does. | ||
| He does. | ||
| A very strange one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like he's someone who I don't really know a ton about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I feel like he went from like horror core stuff Yeah. | ||
| to much more artistic, much more high, um, inspirational. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I believe it started with Odd Future Wolfgang Kill Them All, which was him and Earl Sweatshirt and, uh, and those cats. | ||
| Uh, and then he did Goblin, which had that one song that everyone was like, Ah, he's so scary, you know, that kind of thing. | ||
| Uh, and then he did that for a while and everyone was kind of like, Ah, that's kind of boring. | ||
| Uh, then he came out and started doing all kinds of different stuff and, uh, everyone's had a ch great time since then. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's the new album like? | ||
| Like, what, how genre, like, what would you describe it as? | ||
| So he had a couple, so few albums back was more of an RB album. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A few albums after that was more of a hip hop album. | ||
| The last one, I think, was more of a rap album, and I think this one's more like a general hip hop vibe kind of thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| More hooks. | ||
| There are hooks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you like a hook? | ||
| There's some hooks. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I like that song, What the Hook Gone Be. | ||
| What is the Hook Gone Be? | ||
| Murphy Lee from the St Lunatics. | ||
| I ask because he's a really interesting type. | ||
| of pop culture presence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That you say Tyler the Creator has a new album out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't really know what to expect that's going to be. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| I think that's a really cool thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think I would take that as a compliment if I was him. | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of, yeah, I feel the same way about like when Andre three thousand would put out an album. | ||
| It's like, I don't know exactly what this is going to sound like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, and then it and then it turned into a flute. | ||
| Then it turned into a flute album. | ||
| So that doesn't always go the right way. | ||
| And if you're going to do a flute album, you have to call Jethro Tull. | ||
| You do have to call Ian Anderson and get it done. | ||
| Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that album. | ||
| Yeah, it's good. | ||
| So today we have something not as enjoyable, but maybe is horror core in a way. | ||
| Yeah, nice, nice. | ||
| And that is june 24, 2025 of Alex's show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| As we watch a disintegration happen, basically throughout this entire time frame. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's killed Gene Hackman, which unleashed a demon that might be possessing Donald Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The United States is in a civil war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The world is maybe in a civil war. | ||
| Donald Trump seems to be going back and forth from wanting regime change in Iran. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very confusing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we may have stumbled upon Our saving grace, which is that Donald Trump is no longer in control of Donald Trump. | ||
| It's possible that there's a walk in. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've got a walk in situation. | ||
| Well, we don't know for sure. | ||
| We don't know for sure yet, but this changes everything. | ||
| He's been dealing with the flesh quite a bit, and that is a way that demons can get inside you. | ||
| Everyone knows this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we have this possibility. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we'll see what kind of horrific antisemitic garbage we see in this episode. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good news. | ||
| Good news. | ||
| Spoiler alert and warning. | ||
| Oh great. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, bad Bob, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, my wife and I communicate by sending secret messages through this show, and this is a birthday message to say happy birthday. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You're now a Polzowonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Bad Tad the Rad lad. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You're now a Polzowonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So thank you very much to Pumpkin Face mixed slut pants from your best friend. | ||
| We'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You're now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Sharp. | ||
| Bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump. | ||
| Jarge R. Binks has a. | ||
| Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So before we get on with this garbage ass episode of Alex's show, I do have an out of context drop. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it made me very sad. | ||
| Well, damn, you're the only reason we're on air. | ||
| We're literally in a toe to toe battle and I want to keep fighting and it means so much to me. | ||
| It means everything. | ||
| I mean, the most important thing to me is to stay in the fight, literally. | ||
| So when you do that, you are everything. | ||
| God bless you, brother. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You're welcome. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That would be, that is identical to a Joker to Batman speech. | ||
| That is, we are going to do this dance forever. | ||
| This is what I want. | ||
| This is what I really want. | ||
| I don't want to win or to lose. | ||
| I want to fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a weird thing to hear in a false context. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In reality, there was a caller named Dan who had bought one of the products. | ||
| Very different. | ||
| Very different. | ||
| And yet you can edit it out of context. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| This could become his thing that he edits out of context to predict that he was always going to be fighting you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Chase is going to put this into a drop. | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| So we start off the episode on the 24th. | ||
| And I will say that most of this episode is Alex whining about how everyone is saying that he's fake MAGA. | ||
| Everyone's so mean to him. | ||
| Because he was against the idea of striking Iran. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's like, Oh, now I'm an impostor. | ||
| And he's just mad. | ||
| I don't like the Mullahs. | ||
| They're a dictatorship. | ||
| My goodness gracious. | ||
| I want a total moratorium on all Muslim integration. | ||
| I want to deport all of those that are here illegally. | ||
| Every single one of them. | ||
| Boy, I'm a known Islamophobe, just like I'm afraid of rattlesnakes and black widow spiders. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Wait. | |
| You got those phobias for a reason. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| And, but, oh, the Microsoft CIA Mossad group, we'll get to later. | ||
| They say I work for the Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla. | ||
| Not Chris Jericho. | ||
| The red blooded, 31 years on air. | ||
| I'm not from the family that raised Colonel Travis' son. | ||
| I'm not from the family that literally wrote the Constitution and started the whole war in a long term ten year project under Andrew Jackson. | ||
| Both sides of my family weren't on the Mayflower. | ||
| I'm not related to the inventor of the stock exchange, Lord Gresham. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Of course, I'm all that and more. | ||
| Are you? | ||
| Get more Americana, but I'm an Iranian spy. | ||
| These people are Israeli sock puppets is their technical name, is what the Israelis call them. | ||
| And I don't want to see Israel destroyed. | ||
| I don't hate Israel. | ||
| Just like I might like my neighbor. | ||
| He's a friendly guy. | ||
| Go for barbecue. | ||
| I don't want him to come over and say, hey, buddy, I'm going to binge your wife over and fuck her in the ass in front of you. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That seems aggressive. | ||
| You don't run my line. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| You don't run my country. | ||
| And Israel, people are sick of Netanyahu, and they're sick of your games. | ||
| And so I don't like the moolahs, and I don't like you either. | ||
| Talk about your leadership. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's like, you know, another gross analogy. | ||
| You're out in some, you know, parking lot and you see some rotten hamburger meat on the ground with maggots in it. | ||
| And then you see a used tampon on the ground. | ||
| And someone's like, Which one would you like to eat? | ||
| How about neither? | ||
| Excuse the gross analogy, but that's what this comes down to. | ||
| And you've got Iran's the rotten hamburger with Magus in it, and then you know what Netanyahu is. | ||
| Yep, a used tampon that's been up Satan's ass. | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna stop right there. | ||
| Is that where he puts tampons? | ||
| If you forgive me, I'm really angry right now. | ||
| I apologize, family audience. | ||
| I'm just so real. | ||
| I can't help it. | ||
| Seems real, seems very real. | ||
| How about that? | ||
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That' whole clip, what about that? | |
| What about it? | ||
| What about that clip? | ||
| So Alex referenced a Microsoft CIA report, and that will come up later. | ||
| But that was basically about people using false flag narratives in order to disseminate Russian and Iranian state backed media narratives. | ||
| And Alex isn't involved in that report at all. | ||
| He's not even mentioned. | ||
| But like, he's got so mad about this. | ||
| He's just like, fucking these people saying I'm fake MAGA, Lord Gresham. | ||
| That's American. | ||
| I mean, the laundry list of things that he thinks are supposed to be Americana bona fide. | ||
| It's just white capitalists. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't even think I want most of those things involved in America. | ||
| Sure, but the lineage is just white capitalists, it's not Americana. | ||
| Yeah, I don't. | ||
| Stock market Americana? | ||
| If you're talking about a ten year plan under Andrew Jackson, there are only so many plans Andrew Jackson had, and there are only so many ten year periods where he would have power to have plans under them. | ||
| They weren't good plans. | ||
| None of those were good plans. | ||
| They were white as hell. | ||
| They were very white. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that's the bona fide is that Alex's response is, I think there's a part of it that's like, I'm so white. | ||
| I am a member of the people who finished off the Native American genocide. | ||
| You owe the West to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's interesting because this protest that he's making is silly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it is based on him having a point I guess I don't disagree with, which is we shouldn't go to war with Iran. | ||
| So like, it's very strange that he's getting heat and blowback from people online. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because of his opposition to war with Iran. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's responding in this way that's disgusting and is like, you guys don't think I hate Muslims? | ||
| You think I don't hate Muslims? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I mean, I absolutely do. | ||
| I am so white and scared. | ||
| What I immediately thought of, and I don't know why this happened, I think it was I think it had something to do with him being like, and that's because you were afraid of rattlesnakes and spiders for a reason. | ||
| But I immediately had like a daytime talk show 90s kind of Sally J. Raphael kind of situation. | ||
| And they're like, we're dealing with phobias today. | ||
| And I don't know if you remember the one where they had a lady get into a tub filled with spiders? | ||
| No, definitely not. | ||
| Okay, well, they were trying to they were doing immersion therapy. | ||
| Are you sure this wasn't an episode of Fear Factor? | ||
| It could have been a dream I had. | ||
| But the point is, I just immediately had a vision of Alex getting into a van with a bunch of Muslims, and I think he would be fine. | ||
| I don't think there's anything to be afraid of. | ||
| Counterpoint, we've already seen him panic about women at a pool supply shop. | ||
| That's fair, but he wasn't forced to get into a van with them. | ||
| Pool supply shop is pretty close to the van. | ||
| Really close to the van. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Almost both in water. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we get to talking a little bit about this report. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This Microsoft CIA report. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You people, it's like it's high school or junior high and you're at the cool table and you look at the OGs who are absolute thoroughbreds of this fight, have been through hell to do this. | ||
| And you say, oh, those are the impostors because the Israeli bots said so. | ||
| Next you're going to tell me two men can have a baby and there's no X and Y chromosomes. | ||
| I am. | ||
| So I'll come back. | ||
| I'll go to the Trump clips here in just a moment. | ||
| But Steve Bannon, imprisoned for defending the president, one of his top advisors, demonized. | ||
| MTG, most attacked in Congress being the president, says, I think this is a bad idea. | ||
| Oh, she's a traitor. | ||
| Tucker Carlson, for over fifteen years, woke up at the neocons, said he was wrong supporting the wars, blown up, flying out of Pakistan and Afghanistan, covering the first month of the war in Afghanistan, a war reporter, they put a bomb on the plane, blows out the bulkhead, kills a bunch of people, they crash land on the edge of the ocean, he almost dies. | ||
| You never heard about that because he doesn't talk about it. | ||
| Oh, but he's a wimp. | ||
| What's he know? | ||
| What's he ever been around? | ||
| He just spent years in the Middle East in war zones. | ||
| When he was seventeen, was sent down to live with the Conference and fight the communists by his CIA high level dad. | ||
| Oh, what's he know? | ||
| He was just in the jungle in battles when he was 17. | ||
| Guess you didn't know that. | ||
| And then Alex Jones, I mean, who's this guy? | ||
| He just walked into town. | ||
| We don't know anything about this guy except he's an Iranian spy. | ||
| Pathetic, disgusting talking points chirped out, chirped out by Microsoft and Netanyahu. | ||
| I'm going to get to the proof of that coming up. | ||
| Those are the people you don't listen to. | ||
| Those are the people that are just taking money to be impostors. | ||
| Notice Iranian and Russian impostors have taken over MAGA, they say me and others, and now and then they use bots and MAGA impostors to try to take it over and turn the Trump movement, | ||
| which is the populist American forefront, he's riding the wave of that, the Silver Surfer, the Golden Surfer, and they try to transmute all that and turn it into now Netanyahu and Liz Cheney are MAGA. | ||
| So Alex really should, Tucker should kick his ass. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is not like if any of this is true, like Yeah. | ||
| This is really not what we need to be out there in the there in public if you're Tucker. | ||
| I would, yeah, absolutely not. | ||
| Because his behavior in the past few years looks really fucking shady. | ||
| If he's a lifelong CIA agent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Asset who was a child soldier with the Contras. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think this is a thing, I think, that happens with America and war stuff is that it blinds us to them being people. | ||
| Like once you become soldiers in a war situation, it's like, ah, you're a soldier. | ||
| You know, it blinds you to being a person. | ||
| And so when someone like Alex goes like, when he was a teenager, he was in the jungle fighting and he thinks like, look, look, that's how strong he is. | ||
| But what he's telling me is that is that they have psychologically traumatized this poor human being and now have let him out upon the rest of us. | ||
| None of what he believes is real. | ||
| He's an absolute psychopath. | ||
| This is terrifying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If he was 17, fighting in the jungles with the Contras, then he's like you, it's not day one stuff. | ||
| No, that's crazy. | ||
| That would be enough to drive you crazy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there's stuff that precedes that. | ||
| You know, like there's stuff that leads up to that that is like, this person cannot possibly have had a healthy childhood. | ||
| No. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or, or, what about this? | ||
| Have we let's go back further. | ||
| Is this a last star fighter situation? | ||
| Was Tucker Carlson so good at playing a video game about fighting the Contra in the jungle? | ||
| No, because he got this position as a 17-year-old through his high level CIA dad. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't help. | ||
| Yeah, no, this is this is someone who has been okay, ultra. | ||
| Why haven't you, why haven't you dealt with the relationship between you and your father? | ||
| If he put you in, there's no way you can deal with that. | ||
| Man, I would be pissed. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| Uh uh, get out of my life, man. | ||
| So this stuff that Alex is talking about, it all goes back to a report that was put out by the network contagion. | ||
| Research Institute titled False Flags and How foreign and inauthentic networks use fake speech to destabilize the right from within. | ||
| Naturally, with a name like that, you could see how Alex would take it personally, but this report isn't about him. | ||
| It's not it doesn't involve him at all. | ||
| It was published on june eighteenth, but from the report, quote, our analysis indicates that recent high profile cases, including Uvalde, Crocus City Hall, october seventh, the Trump shooting, and other domestic attacks, triggered an immediate surge in online false flag discourse, emerging within minutes of initial reports and aimed at recasting the events as evidence of hidden conspiratorial plots, thereby obscuring the true motives and perpetrators. | ||
| In the days following these crimes, Kremlin affiliated propagandists and Iranian state linked media were able to rapidly inject narratives that were taken up by MAGA imposter influencers who then injected them into MAGA branded spaces often within minutes of breaking news. | ||
| In the report, they specifically call out Nick Fuentes, Jake Shields, and Jackson Hinkle, but they don't point out the fact that all of these people have been on info wars, which would have been, I mean, if Alex, if he wants to take this personally, that would be the angle to do. | ||
| He's getting defensive about this and saying it's about himself, Tucker, and Bannon. | ||
| But this report doesn't mention them at all, which seems weird. | ||
| He seems to be throwing himself into this without a reason. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I guess in a way, it implies all of them. | ||
| It is just essentially like everyone now knows you can throw a grenade into the right wing Twitter sphere and Lord knows what's going to happen. | ||
| It's calling out a game that Alex definitely profits from. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So you could kind of see why he would be interested. | ||
| If anything, I would be angrier that they have turned it into a streamlined, technically sound project. | ||
| It's like filter or like injecting bullshit into America. | ||
| Is it like there's teams of people who do it in minutes? | ||
| They have it done. | ||
| They've got all this pre worked out. | ||
| They've got scripts written. | ||
| So this will happen across hundreds of bot accounts at the same time. | ||
| Like it shouldn't be that easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you're Alex, you're probably also like thinking, the fact that I'm not in this report makes me seem less relevant. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| There's of course I don't have as much reach as like Nick Fuentes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's the personal element of pride. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So maybe you would lie and say that you're in the report because it's it's almost like a mark of pride. | ||
| I am important enough to be in here, okay? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Getting flack means you're over the target. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if you're not getting flack, then you have to pretend that you're getting flack. | ||
| Otherwise, you're really not relevant. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So this is one of the major pieces of discussion on the show. | ||
| And another one is Alex being really mad that people are saying that Trump works for Qatar. | ||
| Oh yeah, they're now saying Trump's in bed with Qatar. | ||
| That trope that Qatar has any propaganda or power. | ||
| We have a giant base there, totally in the US government's hip a traitor, Trump is a MAGA imposter. | ||
| Put it back up. | ||
| Trump, Trump, no, Netanyahu now turns, that's all Netanyahu talking about. | ||
| And you see that everywhere. | ||
| You see it everywhere. | ||
| Emily Bleebler, whatever her name is, it's all the same. | ||
| Israel, don't drop those bombs. | ||
| If you do, it's a major violation. | ||
| Bring your pilots home now. | ||
| Donald John Trump, President of the United States. | ||
| Some people say that Trump is in bed with Qatar because he very obviously is. | ||
| Their government gave him a plane worth about 400 million dollars a couple months ago, around the time when Trump's son Eric announced a new Trump International Golf Clublub was in development near Doha. | ||
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Weird. | |
| His business interests are inextricable from his foreign policy actions, and that's not even taking into account the fact that his Attorney General Pam Bondi used to be a registered lobbyist for Qatar at a firm that you used to work at, Ballard Partners. | ||
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Right. | |
| That firm is run by Brian Ballard, who was a lobbyist for the Trump Organization in Florida from 2013 to 2016 and a top fundraiser for Trump's campaigns. | ||
| It seems like if this were Biden, Alex would probably say that it had been declassified and proven and admitted in the congressional record that Trump was on the Qatari payroll. | ||
| This is plenty of evidence for his standards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, one of the great things about this, right, is like Back in the day, I remember people having to have arguments about, oh, is this corrupt or is this like, oh, and Citizens United is opening the door for corruption. | ||
| This is the single most for sale the government's ever been. | ||
| You can't argue with that. | ||
| Shit is on the block. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No conversation. | ||
| When Alex says like, America's open for business, he means that in a baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You also might notice that Alex is citing someone that he called Emily Bleibler. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who is Emily Bleibler? | ||
| It's actually a person named Emily Schrader who is an Israeli American journalist. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| She reply tweeted to Trump saying that Israel needs not bombing anymore, saying, cite, someone is in bed with Qatar, which is what Alex is using. | ||
| Which is what Alex is yelling about. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's yelling about tweets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you can't I get it. | ||
| I totally get the instincts to be like, this is the real world. | ||
| So we should be like, hey, you can't do that. | ||
| But come on, buddy. | ||
| It's we're way past that. | ||
| He's in bed with, yeah, obviously. | ||
| He's in bed with like fifty guys right now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, but there's like, you know, it seems stupid to just yell about a tweet. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree wholeheartedly. | ||
| And I think that's kind of what all this is. | ||
| This show's just basically him getting mad about Twitter. | ||
| And now the Israeli CIA stay behind network Microsoft bot farms and fake ne influencers that are following the talking points are now saying Trump is a MAGA imposter. | ||
| Not just Tucker Carlson, not just Steve Bannon, not just MTG, not just Alex Jones. | ||
| No, Trump himself, I just showed it's everywhere now. | ||
| He works for Qatar as if Qatar has any real propaganda push. | ||
| It's a minion of the United States, a giant military base. | ||
| What the hell does that mean? | ||
| So when Alex says, I showed you it's everywhere, he's talking about that tweet. | ||
| Our podcast has basically just become watching the effects of Twitter addiction manifest in an old man. | ||
| It's a very strange, like, sociological experiment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This used to be about, you know, far right tradition, the John Birch Society legacy, all this intellectual conspiracy, propaganda shit, and now it's just a cautionary tale about thinking the internet's real. | ||
| You know, it is interesting because you read studies on it and there's a lot of self reporting, there's a lot of like looking at internet stuff, there's a lot of conversation, there's a lot of interviews, there's a lot of this, but we are getting a very, very specific portrait of this phenomenon, which I think has affected everyone, right? | ||
| Like, to some degree, to some degree. | ||
| There absolutely is someone in your life who has done this. | ||
| Yeah, whether, whether you're experiencing the kind of things that Alex is clearly struggling with. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you've dealt with the ripple effect of someone else. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's been foiste on your life. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, and it is, it is consuming. | ||
| It is consuming, which is what I think everyone responds to, is like, if you're, if someone is saying some bullshit, you go, yeah, you're saying some bullshit, but this consumes you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's such a noted difference too between like earlier time Alex and this. | ||
| Like back in the day, he would like to go and bullhorn people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And like, be sitting at an editing dock and like really trying to make something. | ||
| Now, I don't see any evidence of anything other than looking at Twitter. | ||
| I mean, he needs an intervention. | ||
| Like, genuinely, I believe that this is an addictive situation. | ||
| And the level of an intervention. | ||
| Well, but that's the thing, is like, before there was the booze. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then now it's this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think booze is better. | ||
| Absolutely booze is better.. | ||
| Listen, we're all gonna die and our bodies are gonna disintegrate one day. | ||
| I would rather go out one way than fucking Twitter addiction. | ||
| I hate to say that alcoholism is less dorky than Twitter addiction, but it kind of is. | ||
| It's really nerd shit. | ||
| Come on, step up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| So, um, Alex is mad at these people who are saying that he's fake MAGA. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that, like, Benjamin Netanyahu represents the real MAGA. | ||
| And he seems to be particularly mad at Jewish voices. | ||
| Wild how that happens, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now Mark Levin is attacking President Trump. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| He didn't support Trump early on. | ||
| Ben Shapiro didn't support him. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| They are the impostors. | ||
| Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin. | ||
| They've always been neocon, boot liquors, anti American trash. | ||
| They're not Americans. | ||
| They're globalists. | ||
| They're power brokers. | ||
| They're Lakudniks. | ||
| And they think you're stupid. | ||
| Alex isn't really being subtle here at all. | ||
| And any unbiased observer should be able to see the kind of slide that this show's content is on. | ||
| This is not about Levin or Shapiro having political positions that Alex disagrees with. | ||
| It's about them being two very high profile Jewish men in the conservative media space. | ||
| This kind of shit isn't being directed at people like Charlie Kirk when he has a disagreement with Trump over something or Candace Owens. | ||
| This is very much dependent on them being Jewish men. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it feels like the okay, it feels like there hasn't been any kind of explicit agreement with everybody, but everyone has dipped their toe in here or there. | ||
| I've never been there until the point where I think this region knows where the wind is blowing. | ||
| To the point where when you say region, you mean like right wing media. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, right wing media to that is like, okay, this is where it's going. | ||
| Whether we believe in this, whether we're as racist as we're going to sound right now, doesn't matter because this is where the wind is blowing, this is where the money is going to be. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that one thing that's really illuminating is, you know, years ago when Alex's texts got revealed, one of the exchanges that was in there was between him and Millie Weaver. | ||
| And she was warning him after he had Nick Vo Fuentes on the show the first time that she had hung out with Nick and his fans and they were actually Nazis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he shouldn't hang out with them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's great. | ||
| But the other part of what she was telling him was that, like, these are young people. | ||
| They don't even buy your supplements. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, this isn't even going to raise sales for you. | ||
| So why are you trying to cater to this audience? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that that mathematics has changed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That maybe a lot of those people who were buying the supplements died of COVID because they didn't get vaccinated. | ||
| Maybe a lot of that market is now they have to chase it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And online, Twitter would lead you to believe, Oh, well, we have to go Nazi. | ||
| These are the people who are getting big numbers. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's that report that Alex is complaining about kind of illustrates that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Mick Fulentis is named in that. | ||
| Alex isn't. | ||
| Everybody's doing a pivot to Nazi. | ||
| You know, it's Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These fucks are for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex feels like he's been shit on a little bit. | ||
| Pissed on a little bit. | ||
| People saying he's false MAGA. | ||
| He's a fake MAGA. | ||
| Yeah, but he's not. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He's the best in the business. | ||
| The whole business? | ||
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| He's the Tom Brady of this shit. | ||
| That's why they get the Rockefeller Foundation documents and others they go, how does this guy know our plans? | ||
| Who does he work for? | ||
| When the Democrats sued me for years in Discovery and sued my employees and would offer them money, they'd say in the depositions, who does he work for? | ||
| Who gives him the talking points? | ||
| Who's his boss? | ||
| They go, it's him. | ||
| They deposed my dad. | ||
| They go, who creates the Jones show and the things he says and how does he say the things he says? | ||
| So it's all in his head. | ||
| That's you quote CNN. | ||
| Doctor David Jones, Alex Jones' father says, there is a plan, there is a boss and it's Alex and it's in his head. | ||
| So see, the bad guys know I'm on them. | ||
| Remember the headlines seven years ago? | ||
| The new chief of staff's main job is to keep Trump away from Alex Jones. | ||
| Why would that be? | ||
| Sir, you have three board members of George Soros' group in your White House. | ||
| No, I don't, really. | ||
| You didn't know about Fiona Hill, you didn't know about bleep, bleep, bleep. | ||
| Bleep, bleep, bleep. | ||
| We all knew it. | ||
| Emily bleep, bleep, bleep. | ||
| Tell him, because they were afraid of the repercussions. | ||
| They had 60 minutes programs with Fiona Hill crying in Congress, but I was mean to her. | ||
| Nobody was willing to go after him. | ||
| And I'll go after the globalist Soros.' deep statement when they're around Trump, and I'll go after the Kudniks and Benjamin Netanyahu, and if they ever have Russians around him for real, I'll go after them. | ||
| What about Elon? | ||
| The chat comms are all over the Democrats and all over some of the Republicans, Mitch McConnell. | ||
| I just tell the truth. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| The truth and integrity are not my North Star. | ||
| They are my prime directive. | ||
| It's all I do. | ||
| I couldn't shut up and stop telling the truth if I had a gun to my head. | ||
| And that's why you're told I'm the imposter. | ||
| I'm inauthentic. | ||
| I'm the fraud. | ||
| Because I am the real McCoy. | ||
| And I'm attacked and I'm not the best there is. | ||
| Steve Bannon says it. | ||
| I think he's about as good as I am or better in ways. | ||
| I'm just saying there's not many of us. | ||
| General Flynn's about as good as you get. | ||
| I'm the best there is. | ||
| And it'd be like if you're Tom Brady in his peak and suddenly they say you're not a football player and we're kicking out the team. | ||
| You go, I just won the Super Bowl. | ||
| I'm the best. | ||
| I don't want to brag. | ||
| I'm Tom Brady, by the way. | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| You've never been on the New England Patriots. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, I won like all these Super Bowls with him. | ||
| No, you didn't. | ||
| No, this 60 pound person. | ||
| The person that's three feet tall is the best quarterback in the world. | ||
| You're like the person can't walk. | ||
| They're in a wheelchair. | ||
| Well, no, no. | ||
| the best football player on the planet. | ||
| And just all this mad dogging, those are Israeli bots, those are Microsoft bots. | ||
| No, what they are. | ||
| And these idiots will get us all killed. | ||
| This is really fucking sad because what's actually going on here is that Alex is yelling on his show about how people on Twitter don't respect him enough. | ||
| That's literally what this is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They don't respect my credibility and my career and what I've done. | ||
| I'm Tom Brady. | ||
| This is just a man bleeding out his insecurity on camera and I honestly felt a little embarrassed watching it. | ||
| Like if you are Alex Jones, you shouldn't feel this desperate to be validated. | ||
| You are Alex Jones. | ||
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You are where Alex Jones. | |
| I mean, look, I don't know about Alex. | ||
| He seems to think that like continuity isn't real in life and yesterday doesn't relate to today. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| That's fair. | ||
| But I do. | ||
| I believe that the past led to the present. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so he is still physically. | ||
| the person who was Alex Joe. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| You don't need to be like this sad. | ||
| The people on Twitter are mean. | ||
| You snuck into Bohemian Grove, asshole. | ||
| Here's the thing about the bots, right? | ||
| Because this is a problem for people, I think, who talk about bots. | ||
| If you say that this coverage that is negative is bots, then you must also accept that sometimes the coverage when it's positive is bots. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| meaning it doesn't matter anymore either way because you'll never know.. | ||
| You can't know if the feedback you're receiving is real. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that the, I don't want to tip all of my cards too much, but I don't really think that this Network Contagion Research Institute report is good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that it's, I read it, it's not very, I don't, I don't agree with it. | ||
| I'm a little dubious about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But one of the, when it was talking about bots, it was talking about like Nick Fuentes would post something about some attack being a false flag. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then tons and tons of replies would just be spam emojis. | ||
| Right. | ||
| like 100 or whatever. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| They're saying this is indicative of bot kind of behavior. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I'm not sure if that's 100% true, but it definitely could be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Some is, some isn't. | ||
| It's it's like it's not the dead internet theory. | ||
| It's the garbage internet theory. | ||
| It's all it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's all garbage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It could be inauthentic or it could be authentic, but what it means is identical and that's nothing. | ||
| You can't know and that robs it of meaning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, um, but so, but that is to say that, like, I'm not sure, um, when Alex is talking about bots. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not even talking about what this article or the report is talking about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I don't even know how to assess it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, I don't mean it in the way that he's talking about bots being real. | ||
| I mean it in the way that he's feeling about it, in that Yeah. | ||
| negative coverage is all coming from false things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you believe that, then you also have to believe that positive coverage comes from false things, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like it has to work both ways or it doesn't work. | ||
| I think he doesn't really care. | ||
| He's just complaining because it's not going in the direction he wants. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's really what the complaint is about. | ||
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That is, I want people to like me. | |
| And respect me. | ||
| I broke into Bohemian Grove, asshole. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| So all that being said, I'm pretty sure that we're literally the only people who covered Alex's dad's deposition. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| When he said that CNN talked about it, there's no other conclusion I can come to than he thinks we're CNN. | ||
| Because I had to get that deposition. | ||
| That wasn't like I didn't cover CNN covering it. | ||
| We're the only people who cover depositions, period. | ||
| A bunch of those. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They didn't get any coverage outside of us. | ||
| Inexplicably. | ||
| Inexplicably. | ||
| Depositions are our thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think like maybe the Kit Daniels one got some press because he cried. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think the Paul Joseph Watson one got some press because he said that Alex lied to about Sandy Hook. | ||
| I think that maybe the Owen Schroyer did because he said he was a puppet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But none of them received more than between 30 seconds and 3 minutes of video coverage or a clip or something from there. | ||
| It's taking one small thing out of context and then writing bullshit. | ||
| You know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We're the only people who would actually listen. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that seems weird. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It does seem weird. | ||
| So Alex, a lot of his targeting is at Mark Levin. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In this episode. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he complains about Mark Levin a bit here. | ||
| Let's go back to what Levin's saying. | ||
| Oh, Trump doesn't want regime change, so the sleeper cells are set to hit us any minute. | ||
| Let's put that Mark Levin tweet back up, please. | ||
| The Iranian terrorist embeds are here and have been here. | ||
| Eleven arrested by ICE. | ||
| They're here because Biden and the Democrats invited them in with open borders. | ||
| We said so at the time. | ||
| Quattarlsen, Tucker Carlson's now works for Qatar. | ||
| Quattarlsen and his ill will blame patriotically. | ||
| I would give up our military. | ||
| Let that go. | ||
| Oh, put up the date again. | ||
| He says that this morning at 8:47. | ||
| Oh, the Iranians are going to hit us and Tucker Carlson. | ||
| is going to say it's a false flag. | ||
| That's funny, Mark. | ||
| I'm the one saying that. | ||
| Why don't you just say my name? | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| So you might notice that Alex is just complaining about something someone tweeted again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Twitter complaints and Alex's feelings are pretty much this entire show at this point. | ||
| Feels like it. | ||
| You might also notice that Alex is doing a mocking voice when he reads that Mark Levin tweet, but it's exactly the same stuff Alex says. | ||
| He spent so much time on his show saying that Iranian sleeper cells have infiltrated the country, but now that Mark Levin is saying it, it's somehow stupid and you got to do this cartoon voice. | ||
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| The key to understanding this is that Alex doesn't care about the what. | ||
| He just cares about the why. | ||
| He isn't worried about Iranian sleeper cells being in the United States, he just pretends it's a huge issue when he needs to use it as an excuse to push a narrative that he wants to sell. | ||
| The reason that Alex is mad is because Levin is doing the same thing. | ||
| Levin favors regime change war with Iran, so he's trying to present a scary image of what the price of not carrying out that war would be. | ||
| He's trying to create the impression that we need to go to war with Iran because if we don't, they'll activate these sleeper cells. | ||
| For Alex, the Iranian sleeper cells storyline is an anti immigration talking point. | ||
| He wants to create a scary image of terrorist sleeper cells invading the country because he wants the audience to be suspicious that any immigrant might be a member of one of these cells and therefore should be deported. | ||
| Both of these dudes are using the same means to pursue a different end, but they're also dishonest actors, and they don't really care about alleged sleeper cells. | ||
| Levin wants to use the fear he can create around this issue to justify going to war, whereas Alex wants to use the fear he can create around it to justify white nationalist immigration policies. | ||
| Alex doesn't want the fear that he's built around this subject to be redirected in a different direction, so he has a need to attack Levin, but because he does no preparation and knows the audience that he's talking to is stupid, he ends up mocking Levin on the show about the point the two should agree on. | ||
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| Both of their propaganda campaigns rely on believing that they're going to be They can't rely on believing that these sleeper cells exist and they are an imminent threat. | ||
| So this response that he's doing seems counterproductive. | ||
| And it's just really good that anyone listening to his show and taking it seriously, they have to be gone by now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he can just do this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it is it is embarrassing. | ||
| Two men like arguing over a fire hose like, oh no, point it this direction. | ||
| No, point it this direction. | ||
| No, point it this direction. | ||
| And it's like, I don't know. | ||
| Well, it's like they but the hose they're like, I want to spray this dog with it. | ||
| And the other person's like, I want to spray this kid with it. | ||
| I want to annoy someone and jeopardize someone's safety this way or this way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's nothing compared to what comes next though. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex does a long, long act out of Mark Levin hypnotizing his audience. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And those very same bots are now attacking Trump directly and calling him Qatar Trump. | ||
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Boo. | |
| Carlson or Tucker. | ||
| How would you combine Trump and Qatar? | ||
| Don't go. | ||
| Quatwamp? | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
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| Quatar Trump? | ||
| Quatari Trump? | ||
| Nailed it. | ||
| Quatar Trump? | ||
| Good. | ||
| You'll be hearing that soon. | ||
| Doubt it. | ||
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Will you? | |
| Trump is an imposter. | ||
| Trump is not real. | ||
| Trump is not MAGA. | ||
| Trump is not good. | ||
| Ben Shapiro is MAGA. | ||
| Mark Levin is MAGA. | ||
| Benjamin Netanyahu is MAGA. | ||
| Trump has nothing to do with manga. | ||
| I'm surprised he doesn't have a gold watch out on TV going like this. | ||
| Look into my eyes. | ||
| Watch the watch. | ||
| Watch the watch as we swing the watch back and forth. | ||
| Go to sleep. | ||
| Let me hypnotize you. | ||
| You love all the wars. | ||
| There's W and Ds in Iraq. | ||
| Lala, la la IPAC doesn't have any power. | ||
| If you question anything the Israeli leaders do, you're going to hell. | ||
| Jesus said, always do what the Pharisees say. | ||
| Watch the watch. | ||
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Watch the watch.. | |
| You're getting sleepy and sleepy and sleepy. | ||
| Yes, Mark Levin supported the lockdowns and forced injection. | ||
| Yes, Ben Shapiro did. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes, yes, they hated Trump. | ||
| Yes, they were never Trumpers, but now, now they will tell you who the good people are. | ||
| They will tell you who you can trust. | ||
| They will tell you who you have to listen to. | ||
| Good, good. | ||
| Who is Maga? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who am I? | ||
| Oh, we're adding another character. | ||
| Jim and Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and me, Mark Levin. | ||
| Say it with me now slowly. | ||
| Trump is an imposter. | ||
| Trump is the imposter. | ||
| Is this a new character? | ||
| It's good scene work. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
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| You would never be able to convince me that Alex didn't know that the idea that Jewish people hypnotize the public is a giant historical antisemitic trope. | ||
| He doesn't, he's not unaware of that. | ||
| This wasn't some big mystery back in 2019 when Infowars was criticizing Ilhan Omar for tweeting that Israel had hypnotized the world. | ||
| Like, he understands this perfectly well. | ||
| He knows what the fuck he's doing. | ||
| And you see this, uh, back and forth in the show's content over the last weeks or so. | ||
| Like one day it's profoundly anti Semitic And then the next day it's back to him pretending that the last day didn't happen. | ||
| He's engaging in these outbursts and then bringing the temperature back to normal because he's trying to get the audience acclimated to this kind of content without scaring people off with Nazi salutes and swastikas. | ||
| This is a marked departure in his content. | ||
| It's where the wind is blown. | ||
| And that is only half of that impression. | ||
| I'm not going to play the rest because it's more just to hypnotize. | ||
| That's a long, here's okay. | ||
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Let me try and okay. | |
| What this feels like is the modern version of being trapped at the breakfast table with a guy who writes letters to the editor. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like this feels like in the morning I've woken up, I'm trying to eat cereal, someone opens the newspaper and it's just you hear that crack, right? | ||
| And then he goes, Oh, so now they're gonna say this shit about, you know? | ||
| And then and then starts drafting a letter. | ||
| But I kind of feel like I'd rather be around that guy because you can't hit refresh on the newspaper. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You know, like there absolutely. | ||
| He has to have a second hobby. | ||
| No, that's I mean, I was I was thinking I was thinking about it wistfully. | ||
| Like, remember when it would end at the letter? | ||
| The letter would be sent to the editoritor, it would be printed in the newspaper, maybe. | ||
| There's something cathartic about like putting the stamp on the envelope and they can be like, well, I can't possibly expect them to respond immediately. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now I can take a breath. | ||
| I will, I will see you guys next week. | ||
| Yeah, but Twitter, it just constantly refreshes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, great, okay, that's fucking immediate. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Awful. | ||
| But yeah, Alex is definitely taking a shift towards the neo Nazi. | ||
| It's undeniable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like these things keep happening. | ||
| And I think that he's trying to signal very clearly that this is a choice that he's making. | ||
| And one of the things that I think is is one of the signals is the choice that he comes in, the song he plays coming back from break after this really long hypnotism riff. | ||
| So we're witnessing just incredible developments right now, ladies and gentlemen, and I can't wait to get Nick Fuentes on in the next hour to get his take on all this. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to have noted Nazi antisemitic fuck Nick Fuentes on, and he's coming back over No More Mr Nice Guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's like, no, I'm going to be the guy that I've pretended I wasn't, like, my whole career. | ||
| Yeah, I've said that the globalist, I didn't mean Jew, but fuck it, I do. | ||
| I mean, now I'm literally calling prominent Jews globalists in a one to one, as everybody told me I was doing in the past. | ||
| Yeah, and I think a little bit later we'll get some more indications that he knows exactly what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's not just mad at Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There are other Jewish people. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Like Laura Loomer. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| He spends a long time complaining about. | ||
| I love the Botch and the That Batch. | ||
| Laura Loomer. | ||
| Moraal loomers, who I've never done anything to, who's just mad dog. | ||
| Like, I'm taking screenshots of anybody criticizing Trump and I'm giving it to him. | ||
| Please, please, next time you go see Trump, don't worry, I'm getting stuff too. | ||
| Please, take him what I'm saying right now. | ||
| Please, sweetheart. | ||
| Plus Steve Manning had me do it and got it to Trump last Thursday. | ||
| I can get him on the phone to cupcake if I want to. | ||
| I'd have been invited to dinner up there. | ||
| He didn't go. | ||
| Because see, I'm not into the pageantry like you. | ||
| I'm not in the cool kid club. | ||
| Never have been, never wanted to be. | ||
| I wouldn't be part of any of those. | ||
| So bad. | ||
| See, I create the paradigms. | ||
| I create the future. | ||
| I don't try to sit like a bird on a perch higher than another bird like cacatoes do, so I can feel more powerful. | ||
| I don't like black tie dinners. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Quite frankly, I'm a married man. | ||
| It's a little tempting, so I have to stay away from that. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's why I don't go on the road a lot and go a lot of places and things, because I got my weaknesses and I'm integrity, but I like to fuck. | ||
| I can't not fuck. | ||
| You can't be integrity and also be like, if I leave the house, I'm gonna fuck the stranger. | ||
| I'm gonna fuck the stranger. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Could be whoever. | ||
| If I go to a black tie event, I'm gonna fuck. | ||
| I'm gonna fuck. | ||
| I'm gonna fuck. | ||
| If I go to a black tie event, I am gonna fuck. | ||
| So because I have integrity, I won't go. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No notes. | ||
| I, okay. | ||
| If you ever find yourself in the, I am the creator of dreams. | ||
| I am the one who is controlling the weather. | ||
| I'm as good as I am. | ||
| I was crying out of the baby. | ||
| I can't leave the house without fucking. | ||
| Like, if you if you find yourself in a situation where you're giving that speech, reevaluate. | ||
| Step back, stop, have someone nearby. | ||
| Maybe just have a friend whose only job is to notice if you're giving megalomaniac speeches. | ||
| Maybe that friend's name is Tito and he's made with vodka. | ||
| That is possible. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Take a drink. | ||
| So Alex is mad at Laura Loomer because she's like, I'm going to snitch to Trump that you guys aren't loyal enough. | ||
| I'm going to tell daddy. | ||
| And the real irony is that there's a good chance. | ||
| that Laura Loomer wouldn't be in the position she is in if Alex hadn't also helped foster her career along the way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, you guys are dealing with your own problems. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's really explicit about how he just wants to fight with her for attention. | ||
| Oh my God, I've seen like thousands of posts by other people. | ||
| I'm going to get you. | ||
| I'm going to report you. | ||
| Well, good. | ||
| We can take all the publicity we can get. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That could go back to me real quick. | ||
| Yeah, there she is calling Tucker Carlson a raging Jew hater. | ||
| Let's just stop right now. | ||
| Yes, let's. | ||
| Let's just stop. | ||
| We can stop. | ||
| I like Laura Loomers. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| I just got a little excited, kind of on a power trip. | ||
| She's all busy. | ||
| I'm getting screenshots of every one of you, and I'm going to give it a drum. | ||
| Gee, you think somebody on X that's getting millions of views, us, billions, but other people, millions, do you think... | ||
| Do you think when that got like eight million views or whatever, last time I checked and they post it everywhere else, you know, the champion count. | ||
| Do you it got put on the national news? | ||
| Do you think I was doing that to hide it? | ||
| Do you not think this is an attention business? | ||
| He's pretty much just laying out an engagement farming strategy here. | ||
| So on this day, there's a cism in the Trump base with one side preferring war with Iran and the other opposing it. | ||
| Each side is made up of people with different agendas, some of them bigots, some of them politically motivated. | ||
| It's a combination. | ||
| It's not a big tent, but it is a tent. | ||
| Yeah, but for the most part, the conflict in the right wing on the 24th is over this wedge issue. | ||
| The landscape for Alex has to be looking good because there were two sides arguing on social media about who the true Trump fans were. | ||
| This whole episode is really just Alex trying to pick a fight with various high profile right wingers on the other side of the issue all in hopes of getting more people to tweet about him and respect him more. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| With that aspect of what he's doing in mind, that whole hypnosis thing from earlier really takes on a grotesque dimension, where Alex is weaponizing antisemitic tropes specifically to get a Jewish man to call him antisemitic, which Alex can then pretend to not understand. | ||
| It's s trying to get off Twitter because he's trying to be a Nazi for attention. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Probably also means a lot of it, but it's also an attention strategy. | ||
| Like, you know, okay, what about this? | ||
| He literally had Kanye on his show when Kanye was doing what he's doing, you know? | ||
| Like, I'm going to be a Nazi for attention. | ||
| Yeah, but much more confidently. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These people, honestly, Kanye did it first. | ||
| Kanye turned into a Hitler lover before you. | ||
| You guys are following Kanye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What a weird turn of events. | ||
| Quite sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And actually, yeah, it's interesting that you bring him up. | ||
| Because Alex is complaining about Laura Loomer, You used to like Yay. | ||
| What now? | ||
| What now? | ||
| Catch you. | ||
| And then Laura Loomer, oh, she loves Yay. | ||
| And she used to love Nick Fuentes when she wasn't in the entourage of Trump. | ||
| Oh, she was smiling and laughing, you know, next to a guy saying he loves Hitler and wouldn't even dare challenge him on it because she was so scared of being around Yay. | ||
| And now I tell Yay's full of crap sitting right there. | ||
| Because I know all about Hitler from the real history and the deep stuff. | ||
| But oh, now Tucker Carlson, though, he's a secret Nazi. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He's got a red armband. | ||
| He's got a Nazi swastika on his ass. | ||
| That's called bullshit. | ||
| And it's called hypocrisy. | ||
| I mean, Laura, you run around with people that put out music videos saying, How Hitler got him. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you're going to say, Tucker Carlson's a Nazi as if that hurts people. | ||
| Tucker Carlson's not a Nazi. | ||
| He's sophisticated. | ||
| He's an American. | ||
| He's a populist. | ||
| He doesn't like Hitler. | ||
| He doesn't like totalitarianismism. | ||
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| That's why I don't like Hitler. | ||
| Oh, that's why? | ||
| Is that the only reason? | ||
| It seems like it. | ||
| So this is just another instance of Alex trying to bait a Jewish right wing media figure into fighting with him by drifting a bit into anti Semitic territory. | ||
| It's a wild thing to see play out so clearly in front of you, especially when Alex is slamming Loomer for formerly hanging out with Nick Fuentes when Alex is going to have him on the show later. | ||
| Like, what is the dunk that you're making here? | ||
| Oh, you think you can just call anyone a Nazi? | ||
| Well, I'm a Nazi. | ||
| You think you're too cool to hang out with Nazis now because you actually go to the White House? | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay, fine. | ||
| This is sad. | ||
| And it gets disgusting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I will honestly say that it gets disgusting. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Alex has a little flight of fancy about Lumer. | ||
| Oh, that's no good. | ||
| So I'll quote Jesus. | ||
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I don't like that. | |
| I don't like Lumer. | ||
| And I'm just singing around as an example. | ||
| I can't wait for her to attack me. | ||
| I'm really looking forward to it. | ||
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| Jesus is being accused of being evil and sinful by a Pharisee. | ||
| Maybe it's a Sadducee. | ||
| And he says, Hey, why don't you get the beam out of your eye, the two by four, before you tell me about the speck in mine? | ||
| So, Laura, I'm just putting you over my knee here and spanking you. | ||
| I know that's what you've wanted and you've been mad I haven't given you that, but that's okay. | ||
| But I'm metaphysically putting you over my knee right now and giving you a spanking. | ||
| So, uh, the context of that whole I plank thing, that's from Matthew 7, and there's no Pharisees or Sadducees in that story. | ||
| It's just a regular thing. | ||
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Just a regular thing. | |
| Yeah, just a regular thing. | ||
| I'd be interested to hear Alex explain the difference between those two groups though. | ||
| I wonder if he has any idea who the Pharisees and Sadducees were. | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| So also, this is just disgusting behavior on Alex's part. | ||
| He's more or less sexually harassing Laura Loomer on air. | ||
| Sexualized threats and Bible verses in the same minute. | ||
| It's impressive. | ||
| And guess which one comes from his heart? | ||
| Because it's not both. | ||
| I mean, this is very Spanish Inquisition. | ||
| I'm feeling very Spanish Inquisition about these people. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Laura Loomer's just mad, I wouldn't fuck her. | ||
| I mean, that's very gross. | ||
| That's pretty Spanish Inquisition, if you ask me. | ||
| This dude's gross. | ||
| So we shift off the sort of sexualized threats territory. | ||
| And I think this is where the show really just takes a nosedive. | ||
| You can't sit in a cell. | ||
| Sit in Kanye West's lap during his beginning of his I Love Hitler tour. | ||
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| And prance around like a gremlin at their feet. | ||
| And then suddenly be, you know, wearing giant stars of David, which is really the seal of Solomon. | ||
| Not the star of Rim fam. | ||
| I love, oh, you're covering up the star of Rim fam. | ||
| No, it's the seal of Solomon. | ||
| And it's even worse than all the idiots out there say it is. | ||
| They just never get it right. | ||
| It's the seal of Satan that seal the demons in. | ||
| But you can never do anything right. | ||
| Not the Nazis, not the crazy Sionists, none of you. | ||
| Fools. | ||
| You know nothing of history. | ||
| So Remphan is the name of the pagan god worshipped by some Israelites who were led astray in the wilderness, which is covered in Acts seven. | ||
| The text says, quote, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them, and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. | ||
| It's a pretty well known antisemitic conspiracy talking point that this verse proves that Judaism is actually Moloch worship. | ||
| And so that's the thing that Alex is against. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But what's interesting is that he seems to reject that antisemitic smear in favor of a more extreme one. | ||
| And Alex's version of the Seal of Solomon stuff is about as extreme as you can get. | ||
| This dude is only not a Nazi because he just finds them disappointing apparently. | ||
| This is real, real fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you get into when you see people get into a hypocrisy fight and there is no bottom because they're both so emblematic of the very concept of hypocrisy, it's hard to it's hard to even look at them without the brightness of their hypocrisy blinding you. | ||
| You get weird shit like this, like what are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, like it's it's so strange like to hear Alex be able to get mad about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like what is the correct anti Semitic conspiracy interpretation of the Star of David. | ||
| He has strong feelings about these fools who think it's the Rem fan version, but no, it's the Solomon version. | ||
| It is like listening to people argue about deep lore of like The Next Generation, and like, but then also using it to justify horrors. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fun when it's just Star Trek. | ||
| Yeah, just argue about Star Trek. | ||
| Do not also. | ||
| Don't also and then be like, and of course we need to subjugate. | ||
| No, no, no, no, you don't. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| Star Trek doesn't teach that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think that we're pretty full of the rails at this point. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's in the Bible and in the other ancient text that it's the seal he came up with to seal which is that he was using to control things in black magic and its Jewish mysticism. | ||
| So yes, the star of David is not the star of David. | ||
| It is the seal of Solomon that seals Satan. | ||
| And you go, oh, you mean it battles Satan? | ||
| No, it controls. | ||
| Woo, because that works. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, you've heard, Smoley, we wrestle with God, Israel, that's what it means. | ||
| And we are even greater than you, God. | ||
| Remember that clip we played last week at Smoley? | ||
| Woo, that's dangerous. | ||
| That's some, that's some. | ||
| And then see, oh, and we control Satan too. | ||
| Yeah, well, I'm not trying to control God or Satan. | ||
| I'm, I've got defense against Satan through Jesus Christ. | ||
| But it isn't me doing it, it is Jesus Christ. | ||
| So you guys go ahead and run your mouths, how you control God and you control Satan and, oh, you're so powerful. | ||
| Yeah, you think you're in control. | ||
| Bless your soul. | ||
| We should come out with Gnarls Barkley. | ||
| Bless your soul. | ||
| You think you're in control. | ||
| You don't even know what you're dealing with. | ||
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You don't even know what you're dealing with. | |
| My dad explained when I was about eight years old the seal of Solomon. | ||
| He said it was important to understand how the secret societies operated and was at the heart of it. | ||
| I just believed my dad. | ||
| I later went out and researched it. | ||
| But it's hard to find that information because the profane. | ||
| That's what the other occultists call everybody else. | ||
| The Jews call you the Goem. | ||
| And see, here's the thing. | ||
| People go, oh God, the Jews, they call us Go goyam, they call us goyam, they call us goyam. | ||
| All the cult calls everyone else profane. | ||
| Like dog crap. | ||
| Be lucky the Jews just call you cows. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| You see, I'm trying to get you to not act like a cow. | ||
| I said we were off the rails. | ||
| This is a fucking mess. | ||
| And I think the one Alex says like my dad taught me this when I was eight and then I researched it. | ||
| He just like he listened to Mystery Babylon. | ||
| I mean, that's it. | ||
| He just listened to Bill Cooper's dumb ass and all these fake books. | ||
| I'm telling you, if we had a time machine. | ||
| I just feel like a lot of things would go completely different in our world, completely different if someone showed up at Alex's house when he was like seven and told his dad to like, knock it off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, hey, leave the kid alone, you know? | ||
| Like, much like is the message of the Bible, knock it off. | ||
| Hey, knock it off. | ||
| David Jones, knock it off. | ||
| David, knock it off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder, like, that's the mystery that we'll never really be able to solve. | ||
| And apparently Alex's dad is in poor health. | ||
| And so maybe, you know, he'll never give a full tell all interview. | ||
| But there's like this lingering question of how much of that is real, like what his dad did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've been watching him from a young age all the time. | ||
| All this crypto, Nazi bullshit, right wing nonsense. | ||
| And how much of it is Alex creating these stories about what his father taught him? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| But I'm just saying that going back in time and stopping him might not solve the problem. | ||
| But something would. | ||
| These people are nuts, man. | ||
| That's just what he just said is objectively crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To the level of like, we shouldn't allow you to be out in a car because that's a murder weapon. | ||
| You know, like that's scary to listen to a person say that. | ||
| And it really implies a level of rank dishonesty throughout his career. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| If he's like this is what he's believed since he was eight or whatever, like there's so much pretending to not be an antisemite. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Throughout your career that you have to unpack that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why did you lie about that? | ||
| And actually Alex does give an answer later on in the episode. | ||
| So look forward to that. | ||
| Yeah, well, all right. | ||
| But he's really he's really excited about the possibility that people will take him out of context. | ||
| Yeah, that'll be Yeah, it's engagement farm. | ||
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| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| The ring of Solomon to command demons and spirits. | ||
| So that's what it is. | ||
| King Solomon said it. | ||
| He studied all the seals and conjured thousands of demons, including Satan himself, and married hundreds of wives to study their different occult religions and even involved human sacrifice. | ||
| And he said, That seal commands Satan. | ||
| Oh, we're having a history lesson today. | ||
| Laura Lummert, tell me about anti Semitism now. | ||
| Oh, how's old Ye doing? | ||
| Oh, I don't need help. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| You nailed it, buddy. | ||
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Ooh, I love Hitler. | |
| Watch the left will take that out of context. | ||
| Say Jones is loving Hitler. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Put the lies out. | ||
| People just come and hear the truth. | ||
| Hitler was an occult loser set up by British intelligence. | ||
| It's all on record. | ||
| You could go find out about it. | ||
| Well, I'm convinced. | ||
| So Alex is essentially begging for people to take him out of context on this episode. | ||
| He's saying insane anti Semitic shit and targeting specifically Jewish right wing media figures and he's desperate for someone to call him anti Semitic over it. | ||
| When he says that the media are going to cut him out, saying that I love Hitler and take that out of context. | ||
| of Hitler and take that out of context, he's fantasizing. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| He's just hoping someone does that. | ||
| Oh, God, I'm gonna make some money on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is something I haven't experienced in a while, but this episode feels like it's entirely meant to be bait. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This doesn't make it any less horrible and Alex's shit is still awful, but his goals are very transparent. | ||
| Like this has the same kind of feeling as the I'm gonna eat my neighbors. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like that episode is such bait. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's meant to get coverage that then he can yell about it. | ||
| See, look what they say about me and yada yada yada. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Create a tension spiral out of it. | ||
| And he's doing that., but he's just doing it with, like, Tada, the reveal is, it's the Jews. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's, um, what was it Kid Rock, the Rolling Stone article about how Kid Rock was trying to do a whole thing? | ||
| Saying the N words. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And the guy's like, I'm not doing this man. | ||
| I'm not following this. | ||
| And that, that's what this feels. | ||
| It feels like you're trying to shock me in such a way that makes me go, like, that's, that's, come on. | ||
| It is shocking. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| And like, it's not, it's not something that I want to just brush aside as, look at this attention seeking class. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| You know, but at the same time, it's, you can't take it out of the world perspective, like you can't understand what he's doing Without understanding also that it's meant to provoke. | ||
| It's meant to create a negative response that profits Alex. | ||
| Yeah, this is this is what, okay, there's the type of bigotry that is hatred towards the other, and then there's the type of bigotry that is I'm going to manipulate my in group at the other's expense. | ||
| I don't particularly, I don't care who the other is, anybody. | ||
| I'm trying to harm my in group with this bigotry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's, I'm just using the, the lure of bullshit. | ||
| And I would argue that this is both, but it's fundamentally as a because it's public speech and communication, it's fundamentally the second one. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like that's primarily and most dangerous as the second one, as opposed to like, whatever Alex's actual feelings are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that sucks. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
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| So, Trump's cool. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's just the cult members that are inside his administration. | ||
| The cult members? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And the good news. | ||
| I don't like specifics. | ||
| Trump, because I know Trump very well. | ||
| He's very smart on business, very smart on a lot of stuff. | ||
| He'll admit even eight years ago, he didn't understand a lot of geopolitics. | ||
| He didn't understand how DC worked. | ||
| He's learned a lot. | ||
| But he still thinks these people are briefing him correctly. | ||
| A lot of them are just acolytes. | ||
| Hex Seth is not a bad person. | ||
| He's a combat vet, highly decorated. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Fully brainwashed by the Lakudniks. | ||
| Same thing with Karilla, the head of CENTCOM. | ||
| So when they give him these briefings, they are they are members of the cult. | ||
| They drink the Kool A. And they told him, sir, we know where the uraniumum is, we'll get it, it'll stop him. | ||
| And he goes in and now his very Sim advisors, the media turn against him, the ones saying, do it, do it, do it, it's so easy, just fly right over, you know, a few bombs. | ||
| Oh no, we didn't get it, they moved it out, which of course I said was going to be the case, which I directly warned the president with last week. | ||
| And then Netanyahu says, no, we're not doing regime change, and I showed you all these sock puppet influencers, and I'm going to show you what Nick Foynta is coming up right now, the NGO, Israeli sock puppet Microsoft group that put the talking point out that you're not real MAGA, you're an imposter. | ||
| if you don't do whatever Netanyahu says. | ||
| Now those groups are saying Trump is on the payroll of the Qataris. | ||
| So this is where the thread of the show really came together for me. | ||
| And I think that Alex is either selling broadcast time or he's so lazy that he'll just do whole shows for other people if they give him talking points and like a skeleton. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| When this episode began, I was pretty confused about why Alex was getting so defensive about that alleged Microsoft CIA report that wasn't about him. | ||
| It came out six days prior, and I don't think it's been brought up on the show until this point. | ||
| It makes total sense now though with the context that Nickick Fuentes is coming up on the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nick was named in that report. | ||
| Alex doesn't really care about this report. | ||
| He's just doing all this content on Nick's behalf, but he's trying to make it seem less like that. | ||
| This is like what he's doing by making it about himself and Tucker and Bannon. | ||
| This is like, I think when you look at what this show is, this particular episode, Yeah. | ||
| It seems like it could all be explained by Nick having four requests for Alex. | ||
| And that is, yell about this report that mentions me. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Deflect about Trump's connections to Qatar. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Harass Laura Loomer and be a real antisemitic dick. | ||
| And those are all four things that are primarily what Nick wants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't, I hate to say like this really, really feels like brokered spawn conference. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it really does. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is inauthentic at the very least. | ||
| It feels a bit like when you when you find out the first time that people who go on late night shows, the anecdotes have been very, very meticulously poured over and tightened. | ||
| That whole exchange on the couch. | ||
| Yeah, that's that's been written out well in advance, you know, that kind of thing, that feeling of, oh, this is, this is all, like, it's, it feels stupid to say, but it's like, in many ways, this is supposed to be all an act. | ||
| In one way, it's not supposed to be. | ||
| And in this way, it is, you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that I, I don't particularly, I mean, I care. | ||
| I think it's less problematic for me when one of his episodes is very obviously like, oh, economic turmoil. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| All of these storylines. | ||
| And then that's a just a, like, a kind of pump and dump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, that's just a financial scam that they're running. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that when the episodes are that, it's not really all that interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this is, it feels like the same thing, except that instead of selling gold, it's Nazi. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's shit. | ||
| It is, it is like, I am going to promote Fuentes as a way of regaining relevance, like by associating with this prevailing windm, Nazi. | ||
| I'll I'll have something there. | ||
| And then like the profit is is just. | ||
| I want these Nazis to buy my pills. | ||
| Yeah, I don't. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| And that's where my like fundamental confusion is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's something that I can't answer without like private documents of Alex's. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like, is it sincerely just a trying to tap into this other market and chasing the popularity of this young Nazi? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or is it like Nick is paying to be on the show, right? | ||
| Uh, to try and poach Alex's art. | ||
| audience. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I in the past would have been much more reluctant to think maybe there's like he's paying to be on the show. | ||
| It's just straight up brokered, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but I don't know anymore. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I, how could you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, this shit's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, and this, this episode is, like, it's so notably bait. | ||
| It's so notably anti Semitic. | ||
| It's so down. | ||
| It's like a Nick episode. | ||
| You know how like Lost has Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a model episode. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is a self-contained anti Semitism episode. | ||
| And that's a large, like, it feels kind of similar to to the last time Nick was on. | ||
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| That felt like an antisemitic model episode too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it really feels like there's at least an influence. | ||
| Whatever Nick is doing. | ||
| And if you wanted it to be like this is how their structuring goes. | ||
| Like if you wanted it to be Alex going, I'm going to try and say some really inflammatory shit. | ||
| So that will get people like, listening when you come on. | ||
| That kind of idea is that, okay, now I'm, now people will find a way to like, oh shit, he's saying it real. | ||
| Yeah, we'll hit be right whenever, you know, everyone, all the numbers will come and right as we crescendo to your interview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| Whatever the motivation for it is disgusting and toxic. | ||
| Great guys. | ||
| So Trump, good guy. | ||
| Good guy. | ||
| Good guy. | ||
| They're all great guys. | ||
| He doesn't want regime change. | ||
| No, today. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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I'm gonna shut up now. | |
| I'm gonna go to Nick Pointless. | ||
| But to me, this is very positive that Trump finally gets it now. | ||
| Says, okay, no regime change. | ||
| I'm really angry with the Israelis. | ||
| And hopefully he's not. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| This is how he always operates and he gets roped in. | ||
| And so I don't know what Nick's gonna say. | ||
| I'll follow him on the almost every day, but I didn't watch what he said last night. | ||
| I pretty much do every day. | ||
| At least I catch them at night or I catch them in the morning, but I didn't today. | ||
| It seems like Trump's policy on regime change shouldn't be a day to day thing that keeps, he keeps getting tricked about. | ||
| That seems like bad leadership. | ||
| The thing that people sometimes think that things are excuses when in fact they are disqualifying. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, oh no, this is what happens. | ||
| He gets roped in. | ||
| Do you mean he's fired? | ||
| I'm firing you. | ||
| I'm firing. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| It's about his catch flight. | ||
| You just get roped in. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, you don't get roped in. | ||
| Let's not, you can't. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Yeah, you're The leader. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Also, pretty embarrassing for Alex to say that he watches Nick's show every day. | ||
| That's definitely not true. | ||
| But the funnier part is Alex being so clear that he didn't watch today, so he has no idea what Nick's going to say. | ||
| Just in case he has to distance himself. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, Nick still could go too far, and Alex is keeping that door cracked. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Keeping my eye on the door, making sure I have a clear path. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That one's that one's a that one's classic showbiz. | ||
| That old, like, Hey, I love this guy. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| Watch his show every day. | ||
| Didn't watch today. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'd think I would because he's on the show, but it's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might be on one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Wild. | ||
| So I noticed in this exchange, we track the monkey behavior, dominance hierarchies. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| of Alex and Nick. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And Alex is full on servient. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Nick is alpha. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| in this exchange. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| for sure. | ||
| Well, Nick Fuentes is a very exceptional young person. | ||
| You can agree or disagree with some of the things he says and I do, but he's 26 years old. | ||
| He's been on the political scene nine, ten years, exploded on it. | ||
| And all I've done since I was ten years old is study, not all I've done, but I mean, I'm big in geopolitics. | ||
| And I've talked, don't forget I found. | ||
| I had family that was all into it, some family was in intelligence and things and were anti establishment. | ||
| So I grew up, you know, John Birch Society, people, all that type of stuff. | ||
| So I had a real leg up. | ||
| We're listening to Nick, his family really wasn't into politics. | ||
| I don't know how he got so informed so quickly. | ||
| But imagine when he's 51, how much he'll know. | ||
| Hopefully, we're not here and haven't blown ourselves up or AI hasn't killed us all. | ||
| But Nick, there's so much to unpack here. | ||
| So let's go through it here. | ||
| And I want you to go wherever you want to. | ||
| We've got a lot of time here. | ||
| I appreciate the time. | ||
| This episode has a completely subservient energy that Alex is displaying for Nick, and you can feel that even in how he's comparing himself to Nick. | ||
| This isn't Alex saying something like, One day if you work really hard, you might be the next me. | ||
| It's him saying, This kid is going to be so much better than me one day. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| When he's my age, he's going to be amazing. | ||
| And make no mistake about it. | ||
| Ever since Alex has known Nick, he's known he's a Nazi. | ||
| Millie Weaver texted him about hanging out with him and with Nick and his fans and was like, They aren't joking about this. | ||
| She complained multiple times to him that Alex shouldn't associate with Nick, so there's no way that he can fake some kind of ignorance on this. | ||
| Like he's full on like, I'm breaking the glass or whatever. | ||
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I'm just, I'm, this is paternal. | |
| Yeah, this is paternal at this point. | ||
| My Nazi son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm proud of the boy. | ||
| I'm so proud of this boy. | ||
| He's going to be the quarterback. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to be the dad that teaches this kid about the seal of Solomon when he's eight. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| So gross. | ||
| So Alex is clearly supposed to bring up this Microsoft CIA report. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he set the table for it earlier in the episode. | ||
| He started to build the narrative. | ||
| and now the payoff is supposed to be Nick complaining that he's in this report. | ||
| And Alex doesn't bring up the report before Nick has a chance to bring it up. | ||
| And you could almost feel Alex being like, Oh, I'm so sorry that I didn't get to that in time. | ||
| This is the stop. | ||
| I'm going to give you all the time you need, but since I was about to launch this and you launched this, I just want to preface it for everybody. | ||
| This is a big deal. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was waiting for this. | ||
| This is actually the biggest thing we were going to talk about. | ||
| I was about to go there ten seconds before he just threw it out, which I'm glad you did. | ||
| Let me explain. | ||
| A publicly Israeli funded run Microsoft USA. | ||
| USAID funded previous people said, well, Trump said no, it's front loaded with CI funding to these NGOs. | ||
| They come out on June 14, right before the attacks, and all this rolls out. | ||
| Then right when the attack happens, they come out with the New York Post, which is, you know, a Israel mouthpiece, basically, and say, There's all these Russians and Iranians attempting to destroy Trump. | ||
| And it says they're impostors, they're not MAGA, which then all the people being paid, the influence. | ||
| The influencers, the bots all put out. | ||
| But then when you read the report, Their main threat is there's going to be terror attacks and things. | ||
| And when those happen, we don't want anyone to say it's a false flag, which now Levin and all the rest of them are saying. | ||
| So right as they're about to launch the attack, and then the days into it, they put out the big reports all over that Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes and all these people and Tucker Carlson were all just agents and everyone else is a bot boosting them and they list us all and they're worried we're going to say there's a false flag. | ||
| And then Mark Levin goes, don't worry, we're still going to go to war., we're slow to take over Iran because the Iranian sleeper cells are about to hit us. | ||
| But watch out, Tucker Carlson and his ill will say it's a false flag. | ||
| So here they are preemptively getting ready, literally Israel and the deep state, and it's all right there. | ||
| I mean, you talk about telegraphing, it almost makes too much sense. | ||
| It almost does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So just to say this before I get into anything of this, I have no interest in defending the Network Contagion Research Institute. | ||
| I've read the report that Alex and Nick are talking about and looked over a little more of their output, and I think the NCRI may be a little bit of a dubious source to give you some sense of what I mean. | ||
| In March they put out a report titled How Online Extremists Hijacked Christ is King. | ||
| And the second author that's listed in the contributor section is Dr. Jordan B. Peterson. | ||
| So this is maybe not serious, not a serious outlet. | ||
| That being said, all of the stuff that Alex is saying is incorrect. | ||
| The NCRI is not run by the Deep State or funded by Israel. | ||
| They did partner with the ADL's Center for Extremism for a series of reports, so there may be some relationship between the two groups, but I'm not sure how deep that goes. | ||
| Alex has presented no evidence that there's USAID funding or any of that other stuff, so I'm going to leave that to the side because there's a bigger problem. | ||
| this report on june fourteenth in anticipation of the attack, so they could preemptively discredit people who called things false flags and brand them as MAGA imposters. | ||
| The problem is that the report was released on june eighteenth, so Alex's timeline's a little bit screwy and convenient for him. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Alex further claims that he and Tucker were listed and called agents in this report, which isn't true. | ||
| Nick is listed along with Jake Shields and Jackson Hinkle, but even they aren't called agents of Russia or Iran. | ||
| They're referred to as quote marginal non credible domestic actors who are quote engagement dependent personalities operating in the periphery of MAGA discourse. | ||
| Ooh, talk dirty to me. | ||
| The report says, as they lack institutional affiliation or consistent ideology, they subsist on narrative opportunism and algorithmic volatility. | ||
| Their alignment with state seeded propaganda arises from relevance hunger, social isolation and the incentives of digital attention economies. | ||
| A fair amount of what they're saying is pretty accurate. | ||
| That is right on the money. | ||
| But I'm not sure about the periphery part. | ||
| That might be a story that these people are telling themselves to be like, Well, Trump isn't that bad. | ||
| It'd be nice. | ||
| It's almost a delusion of neutrality or central center. | ||
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| That's never I've never seen that happen before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in addition to these names, the report lists a different tier of influencers who are the narrative seeders alleged to be working in service of Iran or Russia. | ||
| These are accounts called Draven Noctis, Adeem Media, and Megatron Ron, none of which are Alex or Tucker, or even Nick. | ||
| Yay. | ||
| Alex is lying about this report and creating a false version of it to discuss, which it seems painfully clear is something that he's just doing on Nick's behalf. | ||
| That clip has the energy of someone who doesn't want to get yelled at for not doing their job, like Alex had fucked up by not introducing this topic before Nick got to it. | ||
| Alex feels almost like a butler. | ||
| Like, oh no, I didn't sweep up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it's weird. | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| I mean, I guess what happens, here's how I see it in the real world is that Fuentes got named and this was super duper exciting because now we've got something that is like, oh, they're attacking me. | ||
| And then, you know, Alex can help him judge it up, get the story going. | ||
| So now we've got an actual like, oh, this is a whole crucifixion kind of angle for it. | ||
| They're coming after Nick Fuentes and all of us, but I guess there's actually not anything there. | ||
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So Alex has to make up a completely different story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To, to prime everyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, And, and all of it is in service of, like, a lot of very convenient things for Nick. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| But, like, it's, it's weird because, like, this report doesn't matter. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's really just, like, hey, here's an opportunity to, like, pretend we're underrepresented. | ||
| I mean, narrative driven opportunism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Absolutely. | ||
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| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| So Alex just yells and complains about a fake version of this report that he's created in his head to defend Nick. | ||
| And I'm just off you, totally. | ||
| We have to do more on this. | ||
| Just listen to me, listeners. | ||
| I have never seen such naked telegraphing, okay? | ||
| So their case study is false flag, but it's all about, anyone says false flag is a Russian or Iranian or Qatarian propagandist, then not just Levin, who's literally a Mossad agent, I mean, it's obvious, a mouthpiece of the Lakuten Experimentum is saying, oh, the attacks are coming, ha ha ha, we'll get Iranran, but don't listen to people that say it's a false flag. | ||
| It is totally preprogrammed. | ||
| Mossie goes, oh, they're going to blame fellow Americans. | ||
| No, we're going to blame Mossad agents, buddy. | ||
| And so this means, one hundred percent they're doing. | ||
| I mean, this is because they're geared up, they're ready and they're scared of this. | ||
| We've got to get ahead of this. | ||
| But then separately, and I'll give you the floor separately in all this, they also then say, anyone that disagrees with the war is an imposter. | ||
| And then all the talking points, because I didn't read the report when it came out a few weeks ago, folks. | ||
| I only read it like two days ago. | ||
| Because I started I read part of it, I read the article about the report. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| I'm like, wait a minute, impostors undermining MOGA. | ||
| I was seeing that by all the bots and Laura Lumer and all of them. | ||
| And then I actually read the report a few days ago and I'm like, oh my God, I went to look at the accounts, it's word for word. | ||
| So they've paid these influencers, obviously. | ||
| This is a Mossad Bill Gates deep state attack, and then the idiots have put their whole blueprint right here. | ||
| This is the Death Star plans. | ||
| They have fucked up, Nick. | ||
| This is huge. | ||
| Alex is making up all this, but what I find kind of magical about that clip is the way you can feel Alex's pulling in whatever he can and pretending that this report said that anyone who opposes war with Iran is an enemy agent and he wraps it up with a little bow and it's almost as if he's asking like, Is that good enough, Nick? | ||
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| Have I done a good job? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's presenting this bullshit he rattled off like, it's for Nick's approval. | ||
| Sign off on this. | ||
| Can I clock out? | ||
| Is the check signed? | ||
| I mean, yeah, that's it's very obvious. | ||
| Well, it's not obvious, but the behavior matches with that. | ||
| Like, it's not it's not proof, but this is the kind of behavior you would see if that were the case. | ||
| I mean, it's it's just yeah, it's I I agree. | ||
| I am doing I'm here doing a job. | ||
| I'm not here doing my show. | ||
| I'm not here doing this. | ||
| I'm a contractor. | ||
| You've hired me out to perform this behavior. | ||
| Yes, right. | ||
| That, that, the part of it that's like he is doing a job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's obvious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But whether or not it's a job that's like brokered programming kind of job or if it's a job that's just like I don't have anything else to do today. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm desperate for content. | ||
| This seems popular on Twitter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you if you get hired to build somebody's house, then you're like, yeah. | ||
| Look, I got this thing. | ||
| I got this going. | ||
| I got this place right here for you. | ||
| This is a really good house. | ||
| I'm building you a really good house. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At the same time, I feel like if I was his friend and I was in his vicinity while he goes on that whole rant about how all this, like I couldn't help but just, None of this is real, man. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Like it's Yeah, it's out there. | ||
| I can't figure out like if he's getting paid or if he's doing it on spec. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| That's what I can't really. | ||
| It's about exposure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If Alex is working for exposure, we're in real trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, I think that the tone that they have between them is captured in this clip. | ||
| They're even running the game on the conservative base, on the Trump supporters saying, hey, if Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes are against this, they turned on Trump. | ||
| They're fake MAGA. | ||
| They're manipulating MAGA. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| It's literally word for word in the Murdoch owned New York Post. | ||
| They say they're trying to manipulate MAGA base by posing as MAGA and saying they oppose the war and by being propped up by Iranian bots. | ||
| They're giving this impression that their opinion is just going to run it real quick. | ||
| Yeah, totally right. | ||
| They even say imposters. | ||
| So here's why a complete globalist brainwashing point, but when I first saw it a few weeks ago, they had an implement in it. | ||
| Then I noticed it was being implemented on Reddit. | ||
| The point is, this is the battle plan. | ||
| That's what, folks, we have the plan, the Mossad plan right here, which means imminent false flag, brother. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| It is, and everyone needs to be on high alert. | ||
| I mean, I'm really worried about traveling, airports. | ||
| This is embarrassing. | ||
| Alex is horribly overselling this thing, and even Nick doesn't feel like he wants that spin that Alex is putting. | ||
| He's going a little too far. | ||
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| In wrestling, this is what's called a style clash. | ||
| Sometimes a big beefy guy and a little flippy guy, they have good chemistry and their different styles complement each other. | ||
| But sometimes they're just not on the same page and you can tell. | ||
| The way their performances intersect with each other serves to break the illusion of KFAB instead of deepening it. | ||
| And that's how this feels. | ||
| Alex is in salesman, the sky is falling, we've finally found the key to solve the mystery mode, whereas Nick is trying to sanitize himself to Alex's audience and he's looking to come off like a studious guy who's being unfairly attacked by this report. | ||
| It doesn't work together and the two of them are kind of working against purposes. | ||
| Alex is just doing this embarrassing over the top thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it feels desperate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that okay. | ||
| So if what we're looking at is actually trying to find allies, if this makes sense, so in the coming clash between far right media figures, we'll have, you know, obviously there'll be multiple sides probably based around some form of bigotry or misogyny, one or the other. | ||
| Yeah, this feels like people feeling out who's real allies and who's not going to be allies in the coming struggle. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, but the problem is on the show, they're both trying to be allies to the wrong show. | ||
| Well, Alex, you know, yeah, Alex is trying to be like, this is how I promote you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like, all the people who watch my show are going to laugh at this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you're an embarrassing old douche. | ||
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| You suck, you're being a dork trying to say that this report is the battle plan of Mossad that reveals that false flags are imminent. | ||
| Like, it just seems overly desperate. | ||
| It seems like someone who's like they don't even think tomorrow matters. | ||
| I don't care what this story, I don't care what the reality I'm implying with this story. | ||
| I don't care about anything. | ||
| And tomorrow it will mean nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that's the difference between them. | ||
| Nick understands tomorrow exists. | ||
| Nick, you know, he believes tomorrow exists for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Nick and Alex, they're both a little bit worried about the idea that Israel might take over the United States. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Aren't we all? | ||
| I mean, hey, they could walk in. | ||
| And in discussing this, Alex, I think he says something that he really, really shouldn't have said. | ||
| Totally agree. | ||
| I think, you know, as far as Mark Levine is concerned, that guy's totally, he might as well be in the IDF. | ||
| And as far as the Hezbollah pagers are concerned, you know, this is something that doesn't take a big imagination. | ||
| If Israel can carry out this kind of intelligence penetration of Iran and Hezbollah, you have to assume they could do it to us. | ||
| And that's kind of terrifying. | ||
| You know, what would if there was a conflict between the US and Israel, who would win? | ||
| I think it's kind of an open question. | ||
| You'd assume to be us because we're so much bigger and more powerful. | ||
| But, you know, if they have a man inside the White House and inside the Pentagon and inside Google and and all the rest of it. | ||
| And with AI And drones, you know, it's sort of a question. | ||
| And that's what I'm concerned about is, you know, in the big picture, how this is going to affect balance of power in the Middle East and the world. | ||
| So I, you know, US of Israel, I don't think that's far off. | ||
| I think that's kind of the point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, Israel was a client state of the British Empire in the US. | ||
| Now it openly says it's the most focused faction. | ||
| It's put its people into everything. | ||
| And Israel after China is the greatest national security threat to this country and world peace. | ||
| That's just a fact. | ||
| And they've now with them going into full offense, trying to give it energy because they, Israel goes and stages its false flags against itself since the fifties. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| The 50s, they love it. | ||
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| So the more you attack it and just attack Juice in general, the more power they get. | ||
| Okay, folks. | ||
| I don't want to attack Juice in general. | ||
| Most of them aren't sophisticated like everyone else. | ||
| But at a certain point when it gets so bad and the cancer spreading quickly, I'm like, well, we're past the point of our turn now. | ||
| We just got a full, full guns. | ||
| And I've always exposed all this stuff, but I've been attackfully and now we're in such a danger of nuclear war. | ||
| I'm just like floodgates, whatever, floodgates. | ||
| This might literally be the worst thing that Alex could possibly say to explain his shift over being way more anti Semitic as well as being way more anti Israel in the recent months. | ||
| saying that he hasn't been very vocal about Israel in the past because they're too powerful and that criticizing them plays into their hands. | ||
| They love false flagging themselves so they can play the victim, so Alex has historically just given them a pass. | ||
| On one hand, this just isn't true. | ||
| Throughout his career, Alex has had varying views on Israel depending on what's convenient for him at the time, and he was even a fan of Netanyahu during Trump's first term. | ||
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| He's also been very critical of Israel at times when it's been in his interest, like at the beginning of the COVID vaccine rollout, where there was high uptake in Israel. | ||
| There isn't a coherent through line of his position on the Israeli government. | ||
| But Alex now seems to be saying that he's been going easy on them. | ||
| Alex isn't shifting toward being more critical of the Israeli government in terms of policy or action. | ||
| He's becoming more outwardly anti Semitic. | ||
| That's what he's made a conscious effort to go easy on over the course of his career and what he's testing the waters of letting go of now. | ||
| This isn't even close to subtle, what he's saying. | ||
| This is like, yeah, over the course of my career I've gotten a lot of criticism from anti Semites and Nazis about how I don't say globalists, it means Jews. | ||
| I don't encourage people to be Nazis. | ||
| And hey, the floodgates are open now. | ||
| Fu Fuck it. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I mean, you know, it's a return to that good old fashioned American exceptionalism, anti-Semitism from from the old days, you know, back in, back in the 1890s, whenever they were really doing it up, right? | ||
| Well, I mean, it goes back to that, what Al, you know, the, the, the, him coming in from break with no more mister Nice Guy. | ||
| This is the, this is the image that he's trying to send across to the audience. | ||
| It's like, I have been overly nice to you Jewish people, to Jewish people, because being mean. | ||
| to you is just it serves Israel's interests. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's strategically not in my interests to be a Nazi, but now I don't give a fuck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| This is really bad because on the one hand he's saying, hey, Nazism is cool now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then the second thing that he's saying is I've been lying throughout the course of my career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've been pretending that I don't actually kind of hate all Jewish people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I do. | ||
| I do. | ||
| And I've just strategically pretended that I didn't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is, it is interesting. | ||
| what people will say when you're not around, you know, because like that, to me, is something that if he and I were in the room together, that's something that he's like, okay, well, then we're done here. | ||
| Yeah, I'd walk away or like, yeah, this is this is the end of whatever peaceful exchange this was going to be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And in this, in this circumstance, he doesn't feel like that's what he's doing. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know, like this feels like, just like, no, no, no. | ||
| See, it's okay. | ||
| He gets roped into things. | ||
| It's not bad that I'm saying the Jews are unsophisticated. | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| This is me explaining why I've been nice to all these people for all that. | ||
| he wants some kind of virtue points for not being a Nazi all these years, but it's in service of him saying, Now it's time that it's fine, it's cool now. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| See, I've been a secret Nazi all this time, pushing the cause of Nazism forward in a much more acceptable way. | ||
| Don't you think I deserve virtue points for not being more of an open Nazi? | ||
| Now, the last time Nick was on the show, it was another, like, pretty deeply antisemitic outburst. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, he's a Nazi. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then the next day, it was back to pretending that that isn't the case. | ||
| I'm not a Nazi. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's a part of me that understands that like this isn't necessarily indicative of him being like, all right, we're gonna be Nazis every day now. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But this is raising the temperature in a way that is real and it's fucked up. | ||
| Like whether it's a bottle episode or not, it has an effect on the people who are listening to it. | ||
| And he can fuck right off. | ||
| So they take some calls. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good. | ||
| And Alex gets one call in particular that he thinks is complimenting him, but then has to quickly realize, uh oh, this person might be crazy. | ||
| Mark in Florida, you're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| If you had a ticker tape translation of your show in Hebrew, you would win the hearts and minds of the chosen in Israel who are presently hypnotized by the Sabbatian Frankists. | ||
| You would devastate Bibi Netanyahu and you would devastate the Sabbatian Frankists by taking over the power of the chosen people. | ||
| You would win their hearts and minds. | ||
| Just put a ticker tape AI translation of your show on your program and you were going to devastate theate them. | ||
| Well, if somebody wants to do it, please do it. | ||
| The show I want to reach people in Israel too. | ||
| I know that Israel's very diverse in their ideas. | ||
| I don't blame people for the general public in Israel for, you know, the Lakudniks. | ||
| But I mean, I just don't want to see this war get everybody killed. | ||
| Anything else? | ||
| This is coming from Ariel Cohen Alloro who has been dying to come on your show for years. | ||
| He is the so called advocate that Jesus spoke about. | ||
| He can prove that in Gematriya. | ||
| He can prove that with mathematics. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Ariel Cohen Alloroouro is begging you to put him on the air so he can explain what he was using. | ||
| I'm not trying to cut you off, it's just we're out of time. | ||
| We're out of time. | ||
| We're out of time. | ||
| Sorry buddy. | ||
| Buddy, it's serious. | ||
| You're just out of grammatic. | ||
| We gotta go. | ||
| You're gonna talk about Bible math. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Yeah, but Alex thought that that was a compliment. | ||
| He should have known when he said like the Shabbat and Frankens, that's like a direct thing to David Ike, anti Semitic Conspiracies. | ||
| He has to know like it's weird because on the one hand you imagine he does know., and he's just ignoring this. | ||
| This I think is a very strong indication what this guy is talking about. | ||
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| But is it possible that he just doesn't care and doesn't even, that doesn't register for him? | ||
| I don't know why he would spend his free time looking into this guy, this person. | ||
| Well, he's argued with David Ike about the Frankists. | ||
| He argues with anyone about anything. | ||
| He'll argue with you about what sidewalks should be made of. | ||
| He doesn't know anything about making up a sidewalk. | ||
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Gold. | |
| See? | ||
| And big wood. | ||
| That's what the heaven has. | ||
| Sidewalks in heaven. | ||
| Yeah, everything is better in heaven, therefore, sidewalks of gold. | ||
| Better. | ||
| That is unarguable logic. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That call was a bummer, but it's a good way for him to say, we're out of time. | ||
| I don't do this anymore. | ||
| I think, so here's something that's fun, right? | ||
| But also here's why the internet should be exploded. | ||
| I have worked with a lot of different people in a lot of different jobs over the years, and there have been at least, you know, I would say one out of every two to three jobs, there would be someone that I was working with who would say something that would reveal a batshit belief that you're like, well, no human being could possibly believe that. | ||
| And they do. | ||
| And what you can do is just go, like, we don't have to talk. | ||
| Just we'll just do our jobs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll just do our jobs, right? | ||
| Like that guy, the Grammarian guy? | ||
| Hang up. | ||
| Boy, buddy, we can just go to work. | ||
| We can just go to work. | ||
| Why are you calling in to Alex? | ||
| Yeah, if this comes up around me, we will talk about other things. | ||
| We can just go to work, man. | ||
| I have a lot of thoughts about Survivor and Donkey Kong. | ||
| Have you ever seen me share it with you? | ||
| The TV, anything on the TV, anything. | ||
| Now Donkey Kong, when you break down the name with math. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No, no, ah, Jesus. | ||
| And I can prove to you that Funky is the best Kong. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| We can just work together, man. | ||
| So, we have one last clip here, and it's Nick conceding a very important point. | ||
| And that is that there may be some good Israelis out there. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I mean, maybe there are certainly some good Israelis. | ||
| I think, you know, Ron Unz is a good Jew here in America who would agree with us. | ||
| But I think a lot of the Israelis, you know, they're I think they're pretty stubborn. | ||
| You know, there's a long history in the Bible of very stubborn and, you know, they kind of lose their way a little bit. | ||
| Maybe that's happening now. | ||
| I mean, the chosen people are right. | ||
| What do you think Michael Savage coming out and saying when you get rid of Netanyahu? | ||
| Alex was talking over him a little bit, but Nick said at the end there, the chosen people are us. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| So Nick says there might be some good Israelis out there. | ||
| And then an example that he has is Ron Unz. | ||
| Unz is a straightfor up Holocaust denier who was born in Los Angeles, but whose parents were Jewish immigrants from Ukraine. | ||
| He's in no way Israeli, but he is Jewish, which Nick treats as the same thing, which is weird. | ||
| And you can see that Alex does the same thing when he brings up Michael Savage. | ||
| He's an American who was born in New York, but his parents were Jewish. | ||
| Like this is just them talking about Jewish people, but pretending they're talking about Israel. | ||
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| Or Israelis. | ||
| This is fucking garbage. | ||
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| And this is the direction that Alex's show is going on. | ||
| If there is a meaningful shift that's happening, like there's a lot of of stuff about his disenchantment with Trump and, you know, weird energy around Elon Musk and all that stuff that is very important. | ||
| But this is a damn breaking. | ||
| This is a thirty year damn breaking that I don't know how you can walk back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The stuff with Trump, like, yeah, sure, you spend a decade kissing this guy's ass and making excuses for all the things he's done. | ||
| But you did that with Ron Paul too. | ||
| Like this is way more high profile and embarrassing. | ||
| And sure, there's going to be baggage you're going to have to carry for a while. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But you can shift. | ||
| It's going to be painful. | ||
| You're going to lose some people. | ||
| You're going to have to invoke a lot of cognitive dissonance for people to go along with it. | ||
| But this I don't know how you go back from being like, I've known since I was eight that the Star of David is a secret seal that controls demons. | ||
| Like, I don't know how you're supposed to like, you don't go back. | ||
| You know, I mean, I wonder if what we should be learning or the lesson that we should have learned is that these people were already crazy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| When we thought they weren't. | ||
| And that there was never any going back because it's already too deep in a hole. | ||
| That like, I've been thinking about it. | ||
| I am I am the one who creates paradigms is right next to I think we are the chosen people. | ||
| These people are insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| You can't be the chosen people and also fucking go to a Walgreens. | ||
| That's not how God works. | ||
| I am the Tom Brady of this shit. | ||
| I'm the best there is. | ||
| And now let me do four minutes of an impression of a Jewish guy hypnotizing a audience. | ||
| You're all fucking crazy. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I think that this episode is dog shit. | ||
| I think it sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that Alex should be ashamed of himself. | ||
| I think that there is a best case scenario that Nick paid him to do it. | ||
| That's me trying to be as generous as possible with my interpretation of what caused this. | ||
| If he didn't get paid to do this, then he's a fucking disgrace. | ||
| He is a neo Nazi and has been lying to his audience for thirty years about what he actually believes. | ||
| So I sincerely hope for his sake that he got paid. | ||
| And fuck him. | ||
| I mean, not enough. | ||
| Whatever amount it is, it's not enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, we still have the Epstein list coming soon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To the top of the road. | ||
| To the top of the road. | ||
| And we'll check in and see how Alex navigates all this territory. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed, we do. | ||
| It's knowledgehike.com. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm the mysterious professor. | ||
| Woo. | ||
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| Woo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Woo. | ||
| And now here comes the Sex Robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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So Alex, I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |
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