Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen expose Bill Cooper’s plagiarized claims in Mystery Babylon #7, lifting verbatim from a 1989 Seventh-day Adventist pamphlet (Why Protestants? Why Catholics?) to argue Constantine "became the Pope," merging paganism—like sun worship—into Christianity, and that John Paul II was installed by "Mystery Babylon" to push a one-world religion agenda. They note Cooper’s selective sourcing, framing Sabbath shifts and saint veneration as proof of corruption while ignoring Adventist origins. His 32-year pattern of unverified predictions risks backfiring as his credibility frays. [Automatically generated summary]
Now folks, the Dallas Morning News on October 1st, 1989 published this story.
Anglican leader calls for unity under Pope.
The byline is Associated Press.
Rome, Anglican leader, Archbishop Robert Runcie, calls Saturday for all Christians to accept the Roman Catholic Pope as a common leader presiding in love.
For the Universal Church, I renew the plea, he said.
Could not all Christians come to reconsider the kind of primacy the Bishop of Rome, the Pope, exercised within the early Church?
Again, folks, that was in Dallas Morning News, October 1, 1989.
In fairness, this is just about the head of the Anglican Church saying that he hoped that they could reunite with the Catholic Church because they're all Christians.
Or as he put it, quote, the walls of our division do not reach as high as heaven.
So Runcie's head of ecumenical affairs was quoted in the Duluth News Tribune as saying, quote, talks about closer relations have been going on steadily for 30 years.
I'm sure it will happen eventually because the founder of Christianity wanted one church.
The Anglican Church only exists really because Henry VIII wanted to get divorced and the Pope wouldn't let him, so he created the Church of England, headed by the Archbishop of Canterbury, who would allow the divorce.
So these two coming back together is less...
Crazy than all kinds of other sects of Christianity, perhaps, or even other religions uniting.
This story appeared in the Bakersfield, Californian, August 27th, 1989.
Baptists and Catholic theologians find common ground.
Associated Press, New York.
Southern Baptists and Roman Catholics, the nation's two largest denominations, generally have been regarded as doctrinally far apart, but their scholars find they basically agree.
The 163-page report is seen as the most full-scale mutual examination of respective positions of the two traditions.
Achieving it was an unprecedented experience for Southern Baptists, commonly averse to ecumenical affairs.
The talks, sponsored by the Catholic Bishops' Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, and the Southern Baptist Department of Interfaith Witness, involved 18 meetings between 1978 and 1988.
Again, that appeared in the Bakersfield, California, on August 27, 1989.
Now, I want you to listen to me very carefully during this broadcast, for the message tonight is extremely important.
and understand that I am not attacking Catholics or anyone else.
I am merely giving you the results of our research, and sometimes the results of this research is disturbing.
He's reading a news story about a report that came out of a series of meetings between Catholics and Southern Baptists over the span of ten years, looking to find their similarities and differences.
Sure.
One might ask why these groups decided to sit down and examine their beliefs, and one of the big drivers of it was that there was a real anti-Catholic sentiment in the United States.
Many of the colonists who came to the United States at the start, they were fleeing from the Church of England, which was basically the same as the Catholic Church to them.
Over time, this anti-Catholic strain would reappear in things like the Klan and the opposition to JFK's candidacy, and this series of meetings between religious figures was met.
So the report stresses that both groups view salvation as God's gift to mankind, but it's also very clear that they take different approaches.
The Southern Baptist tradition is connected to the Bible and the experience of the individual, whereas the Catholic views it places more importance on tradition, sacraments, and the people of God, the body of the church, as opposed to the individual.
It is now 2025, and the Baptists and Catholics are still definitely two distinct churches.
So if this was a major piece of combining them under the Pope into one thing, that effort failed.
So Bill, I'm not convinced by these news articles that he's collected.
Yeah, and I think that coordination, not coordination, that's the wrong word, but communication and openness between people, understanding the differences of their beliefs and how they express them.
I don't think that leads to everybody becoming one thing, but I think it leads to less fighting over the cracker.
So at this point, I had enough context to try and find out what Bill was plagiarizing this week, and it turns out that he's reading a pamphlet titled, Why Protestants?
Why Catholics?
Should Christians Unite?
This was a tract that was put out by a group called Bible Sabbath, who themselves were cribbing from another source, which they, unlike Bill, were upfront about.
From their text, quote, This publication contains excerpts from the best-selling classic America in Prophecy by E.G. White, originally published 100 years ago under the title The Great Controversy.
E.G. White was one of the founders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, and this piece that Bill's reading is a work of Seventh-day Adventist propaganda, which he's not revealing to the audience.
It's not a product of research and a fair look at Protestants and Catholics.
It's a treatise meant to evangelize for a specific other church.
Bill obscuring the context of what he's reading is a serious breach of ethics, and would lead me to suspect that he's invested in promoting Seventh-day Adventism.
If that were his goal, that's fine, but he's misleading people by pretending this is some grand piece of research into the New World Order that he and his people have done.
This is about the mystery religion that runs the world.
This is just a tract meant to get people to convert to Seventh-day Adventism.
Yeah, and actually, by the time this ends, Bill has not even gotten like 10 pages into it, so we may see it continue into episode 8. See, now here's what I expect from my pamphlets.
Could the long desired universal peace be just around the corner?
Could this succeed?
Is it actually possible for men to forge a lasting peace on the anvil of compromise?
Or could it be that we are naively forging not a new world order, but rather the one world order of apocalyptic prophecy?
Or is it all an invention of the mind of man throughout the ages to manipulate large masses and populations of people?
I make no judgment, and I do not try to answer all of these questions.
You must do that in your own mind.
But I must ask those questions, for many of you have never even thought to ask them.
While controversial, folks, it is not the purpose of this program, the hour of the time, to disparage or attack the honest convictions of any sincere persons, whatever their politic or faith.
It's either you don't want to work at it, or you realize that if you did work on it a little bit harder, there's no depth to what you're doing, and you would not be able to create the same appearance.
Yeah, you know, to a certain extent, there is the profitability areas are digging all the way into it and really giving it everything you've got or staying completely surface level.
So Bill can say that this isn't a religious show, but he's reading an evangelical tract from the Seventh-day Adventists, pretending it's the product of his own research, and presenting it to the audience as a non-religious thing.
In his head, he might think that what he's doing is educational and not religious, but it doesn't matter.
His laziness is required that he steal from explicit religious propaganda in order for him to fill time on the show, so this is a religious show.
Also, in the text it says, quote, its purpose, referring to the text, is to bring out facts and principles which have a bearing upon coming events.
As Winston Churchill once observed, folks, the farther backward you can look.
The farther forward you can see.
And that is really the secret why my predictions have been so accurate, so accurate that at this moment I am the most successful and accurate prophet on the face of this earth.
But I'm not really a prophet.
I'm a messenger.
And they're not prophecy that I give you.
They're predictions based upon actual study, research of history and of the plan.
Of those who call themselves the guardians of the secrets of the ages, the practicers of that religion called Mystery Babylon.
The nominal conversion of the Roman Emperor Constantine in the early part of the fourth century caused great rejoicing in the world cloaked with a form of righteousness, walked into the church.
Paganism, while appearing to be vanquished, became the conqueror.
Pagan doctrine, ceremonies, and superstitions were incorporated into the faith and worship of the professed Wait.
As Christians consented to lower their standards, a union was formed between Christianity and paganism.
Though the worshipers of idols professed to be converted, they united with the church, still clinging to their idolatry, only changing the objects of their worship to images of Jesus and even of Mary and the saints.
But they still worshiped the same gods.
And they always have.
If you look at an aerial view of the Vatican, you will see that the outer courtyard Is a round temple of the sun, exactly as the Druids and the Celts built.
That would be a bit of a left turn for the rest of this pamphlet to just be like, oh, by the way, all Catholics are worshipping the sun god Osiris and there's a penis.
Whatever.
Anyways, back to the, let's think about the, yeah, yeah.
And the Roman Emperor nearly changed his name from Emperor to Pope.
Now, for those of you who may think that I'm crazy and that I've lost my mind, I'm going to read you verbatim from a book entitled Dungeon, Fire, and Sword.
It is the complete history of the Knights Templar and the Crusades written by John J. Robinson, author of Born in Blood.
And I'm going to start at the second, third paragraph on page 414 in the chapter entitled Jesus Wept 1292-1305.
That's the date.
Those are dates, folks.
In London, Edward sent for the master of the Knights Templar in England, Brian DeJay.
We're about 25 minutes into this episode where he's just been stealing from a Seventh-day Adventist pamphlet and he's never shown any interest in telling the listeners where he's getting his script from.
But now we have a book about the Templars and Bill is telling them what paragraph he's reading.
This shows me that he knows how to cite a text when he wants to, which makes this general behavior that he engages in even worse.
So by claiming that he's saying these things, it's...
Okay, so if he was saying that he was reading from the Seventh-day Adventist pamphlet, people would find him less credible than if he's just reading the Seventh-day Adventist pamphlet, passing it off as something that he's saying.
It makes you look like more of a scholar to cite this book or whatever, but it does not make you look like a scholar to cite a Seventh-day Adventist pamphlet.
I think that's the aid that this pointing to that book gets you that obscuring the source of the pamphlet doesn't.
Now, so that I may not be accused of invention, folks, everything that I'm giving you in this broadcast is coming right out of the writings of the historians of the Catholic Church, of the Protestant Church, of the Roman Empire, of the Knights Templar, and many others.
You see, I'm not inventing any of this.
It happens to be historical fact.
And if you have eyes and can see, The emperor, now the pope, to gain converts from heathenism, unsound doctrine, superstitious rites, and the adoration of images and relics were gradually introduced into Christian worship.
Also, in the middle of that clip, Bill pivoted back to the original pamphlet.
The text begins with, quote, to gain converts from heathenism, but Bill added, quote, the emperor, now the pope, at the beginning of it.
The original source is a passive sentence.
These images and relics were introduced into Christianity, but Bill has added a subject to the sentence and made it an active sentence, and that's fraud.
I think the idea is less that the Emperor literally became Pope and more that the papacy took on the role of the Roman Empire and became the de facto Roman Empire while the Roman Empire went away.
Faith was transferred from Christ, the true foundation of the Christian Church, to the Pope of Rome.
Instead of trusting in Christ for forgiveness of sins and for eternal salvation, people looked to the Pope and to the priests and prelates to whom he delegated authority.
They were taught that the Pope was their earthly mediator, and that none could approach God except through him, and further, that he stood in the place of God to them, and was therefore to be implicitly obeyed.
A deviation from his requirements was cause for the severest punishment to be visited upon the bodies and souls of the offenders.
Through this error the people were turned from God to fallible erring men.
Blasphemous titles claimed for the Pope have been embellished and enlarged over the centuries, but a few of these boastful claims appear in an ecclesiastical Roman Catholic dictionary.
I'm taking this right out of a Roman Catholic dictionary by Lucius Ferraris, entitled Prompta Bibliotheca Tanonica, Volume 6, Pages 438, 442, Article, Pope, the Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913 edition.
Volume 6, page 48 speaks of this book as a veritable encyclopedia of religious knowledge and a precious mine of information.
Those are the words of the Vatican.
Quote, The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were, God and the vicar of God.
So Bill says that he's taking these quotes from Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, but he's not.
This is all still just him reading from the pamphlet.
The text says, quote, a few of these boastful claims appear in an ecclesiastical dictionary.
Bill continues to read from the pamphlet, but tells the audience that he's taking it right out of the dictionary.
And the reason that this is a little bit of an issue is, like, if you are somebody who's, like...
I'm taking this from Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica.
That implies that you know that ecclesiastical dictionary.
It implies that you have read it, that you have gone to find it in search of some kind of information that you're synthesizing together to bring to the audience.
Instead, all he's done is just read from this pamphlet written by someone who he has no idea who it is, maybe, or at least the audience doesn't.
Maybe they looked at this.
Bibliotheca Canonica?
Maybe.
It's the same way with Alex being like, this is from Carol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope.
No, it's not.
You're taking this from None Dare Call It Conspiracy or W. Cleon Skousen, and they're claiming to source from that original thing.
At times, it seemed that error and superstition would wholly prevail, and true religion would be banished from the earth.
The gospel was lost sight of, and the forms of religion were multiplied.
People were taught not only to look to the Pope as their mediator, but to trust to works of their own to atone for sin.
Long pilgrimages, acts of penance, the worship of relics, the erection of churches, shrines, and altars, the payment of large sums to the church, these and many similar acts were enjoined to appease the wrath of God or to secure his favor.
As if God were like men, to be angered at trifles or pacified by gifts or acts of penance, and even then the church still worshipped the old church.
For in dismantling churches for renovation throughout Europe, Throughout Europe, without exception, and the older the church, the more likely it was to be true.
Enshrined within the altar, out of sight of the priests and the worshippers, were found stone penises, symbols of the lost word of Freemasonry, the phallus of Osiris.
Now, once again, I want to tell you, we're not attacking anyone.
I care not what you believe.
I care not what altar you worship at, for I am a true constitutionalist.
It makes no difference to any of you what my religion is, although I will freely tell you that I attempt in my daily life to follow the true words of Christ, not the doctrine of the preachings of any church or any evangelist or any book, but those words attributed to Christ and only to Christ.
And, as the rock upon which those words stand, So I guess the Ten Commandments doesn't include don't plagiarize.
Shouldn't, like, okay, I understand on some level this idea that there is a group of people who have undue influence and are controlling levers of power around the world.
I mean, you could even argue that if the real problem is a small number of people having an outsized influence over the rest of our lives, that presents the exact same problem for his belief system as it does for theirs.
And when you say the true words attributed to Christ, you are making an underlying statement of I know which words are attributed correctly and which aren't.
The scriptural ordinance of the Lord's Supper was supplanted by the idolatrous sacrifice of the Mass.
Papist priests pretended by their senseless mummery to convert the simple bread and wine into the actual body and blood of Christ.
And those are the exact words, body and blood of Christ, written by Cardinal Wiseman.
The real presence of the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ in the Blessed Eucharist proved from Scripture, Lecture 8, Section 3, Paragraph 26. But no Scripture is quoted.
So you can tell there that Bill didn't realize that, quote, "the real presence of the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ in the blessed Eucharist proved from scripture is the name Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When Martin Luther rebelled against the Pope, but did you know that Martin Luther used as his personal seal the rose and the cross?
Revealing that he himself was an initiate of the Mystery School, the ancient religion of Babylon.
You see, I'm not attacking anyone, and I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal.
I'm not tearing down the Vatican in order to build up the Protestant Church, for they are equally guilty.
Protestantism has...
Fractured the teachings of Christ into thousands of sects and cults and little groups, all of them professing to know the truth.
None of them really do.
The Holy Scriptures were almost unknown, not only to the people, but to the priests.
God's law, the standard of righteousness in those days having been removed, paphist leaders exercised power without limit and practiced vice without restraint.
So Bill is trying to say that he's calling it like it is.
He's not trying to tear down Catholicism to prop up Protestantism.
He's creating this image of himself to pretend that he's an unbiased, outside, academic source on this issue.
But if you understand the source he's plagiarizing this show from, you can clearly say that he's not tearing down Catholicism to prop up Protestantism.
He's tearing them all down to prop up Seventh-day Adventism.
He hasn't been forthright about any of this, but the hidden implication underneath him saying that all these sects don't have Christianity right is that the Seventh-day Adventists do.
Otherwise, why would he be stealing his entire show from a tract espousing their religion as the one correct one?
Why would he be presenting this pamphlet's Seventh-day Adventist perspective on Catholic history as the unbiased full truth?
This isn't some dipshit conspiracy text that Bill is stealing this from.
It's a booklet meant to persuade the reader to become Seventh-day Adventist.
By obscuring the source of way...
where his words are coming from and presenting it as the product of his years of historical study, Bill is wittingly or unwittingly evangelizing for Seventh-day Adventism.
It always matters where he's getting his information from, but in this case, it matters in a deeper way.
Well, he could sell things on his own, but, like, the Protestantism has fractured the true message of God into a thousand little cults and all of this.
So, like, yeah, his message resonates, and it's good, but there's just too many distracting other variants of it around.
The palaces of popes and prelates were scenes of the vilest debauchery.
Some of the reigning pontiffs were guilty of crimes so revolting that secular rulers endeavored to depose these dignitaries of the church as monsters too vile to be tolerated.
For centuries, Europe made no progress in learning arts or civilization.
A moral and intellectual paralysis had fallen upon the world.
One is that Bill thinks that Christendom and the world are synonymous, so making that change doesn't seem like a big deal to him.
Everything outside the Christian world isn't really even real.
The other possibility is that Bill's point in this series is bigger than Christendom, whereas this text that he's reading is really about internal issues within Christianity.
Sure.
It's narrowly focused on the corrupting of the Christian church and how the true church is the Seventh-day Adventists.
I think it's possible that Bill felt that the scope of his lecture was limited by the word Christendom, so he changed it.
Well, I mean, the reason I bring that up is because it makes me think that he thinks that switching Christendom to the world means it's less likely for people to realize that he is plagiarizing.
No, see, that's where I can't make that connection.
These other instances where he changes this book to this show, that's to make it palatable as a listener of his broadcast, so you're not raising too many questions in your head about what's the provenance of this.
Sure.
Christendom to the world, I don't think it changes that.
I don't think it has any connection to how the listener is going to hear it.
Which makes me think that it is about, like...
I'm supposed to be talking about Osiris' penis and shit.
A follower of the faith of Mystery Babylon, as was the Pope and the hierarchy of the Catholic Church.
You see, but they were vying for rulership of the world, and up until not too long ago, Have always been throughout history.
For the Vatican practices the corrupted worship of Mystery Babylon, the combination of Christianity and the worship of Mystery Babylon, whereas the mystery schools retain the pure form of Mystery Babylon.
And this is the only difference between the two folks, and they have been vying throughout history for the rulership of the world.
Mystery Babylon attempting to destroy the Pope and Christianity, and the Pope attempting to persecute and burn away the followers, the initiates of Mystery Babylon.
Folks, and now you are seeing the beginning of the combination of all religions into one world religion.
And while the world and the New Age movement may be waiting for the emergence of Maitreya, I tell you now here, and remember, that I have been the most accurate in making predictions about future world events.
than anyone in the history of the world.
Based upon study and knowledge, not psychic ability, not any gift given to me from God, although I am a mess.
Thank you.
I tell you that in the New World Order, the one world charismatic and religious leader will be seated upon the throne of Rome.
And now Mystery Babylon has placed John Paul II into the papacy, which will bring about one world religion as evidenced by the news stories at the beginning of this Seventh-day Adventist pamphlet that Bill is reading and pretending is his own work.
Okay, so my picture of the Mystery Babylon as it's coming together, what I'm seeing is that I think Bill has an idea in his head of how all of these books that he's fans of are actually talking about the same thing, but they don't know it.
So what he's doing is he's reading all of these books to you under the auspices of somebody who has made these connections and removed the individual authors from their...
places as creators.
Yes.
And has essentially created a mosaic out of their stuff without telling you that he's stolen from their magazines.
Yeah, it's like when you've got those light sculptures, those shadow sculptures where it's a bunch of random trash, but then you put the light on at the right angle and it's a face.