#1038: May 13, 2025—Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dismantle Alex Jones’ wild claims: Trump’s alleged Saudi coup (killing royals, installing MBS) and Chauvin pardon conspiracy, $625B Medicaid cuts in his tax plan, and Death Star-level "weapons" for space exploration. They mock his shifting stances on Netanyahu, Erdogan’s role with Syria’s al-Qaeda-linked president Ahmed Al-Shara, and Ozempic’s FDA approval, debunking cancer claims while exposing Jones’ weight-loss inconsistencies. His baseless Utah oil smuggler partisan leap and Shilajit hype highlight a pattern of unfounded speculation, revealing how his narratives collapse under scrutiny—undermining even his own credibility. [Automatically generated summary]
And that kind of answers my second question that I had, which is, if this was a show that was being released in the lead up to the theatrical release of Rogue One, everyone would go ape shit.
After more than a thousand episodes of Knowledge Fight, my immediate takeaways are: one, that every time Alex does that stupid list of adverbs, I can't help tacking on ecumenically in a Jack Sparrow voice.
And also, fuck you forever for making me know what Alex Jones sounds like having an orgasm on live TV.
If people aren't impressed with Trump overall and don't understand that massive history is happening every day and the entire globalist system is going down the crapper and that he's trying to stabilize the whole planet and just create absolute success and lowering energy prices that is the bedrock of a successful, vibrant society.
And that he's rallying people all over the world that want that.
You got to hand it to the Saudi Arabians with their new leadership since Trump and the Crown Prince had that big coup when the Saudi Arabians staged the Vegas attack.
Trump and the Saudi Prince took out all those guys and killed thousands of them.
I am so fired up and so excited about what's happening and going on that I am, quite frankly, frustrated that my fellow humans, on average, do not understand how historic all this is.
I mean, this is wild.
And I thought humanity would rally against the globalists and we'd have a long, protracted battle.
And then we've still got big issues and there's technology issues and AI.
I mean, I'm not saying we're headed for a cakewalk here, but the ridiculous, globalist, dandruff-covered Rothschild Rockefeller system is in ashes.
And what you see coming into the vacuum is everybody else who just wants to have laissez-faire success and go to space and get life extension that's already there and free energy.
You're seeing the beginning of that.
And I'm telling you, once Trump stabilizes the planet, they're going to roll out all of these new advanced technologies that they've got on record.
But what they don't tell you is that the news never wants to report the second part, which is you can't sleep here because I've got a magic med bed for you.
I mean, just like, listen, regardless of what you think about the things he's doing, I think he's just a very unlikable guy, especially in the current circumstances.
I told you a month ago that I talked to multiple high-level individuals that had directly talked to Trump in the last day.
I mean, you've got people that are in the room and talking to Trump on the phone, and Trump's telling them, can't say who he told, that he's completely done with Netanyahu and that Netanyahu is a criminal and a psychotic and wants to start a nuclear war.
And that Iran and China are going to, and Russia, if he attacked Iran, are going to come into it, and it's going to cause a total expansion of the World War III scenario we've already entered.
And that Iran is ready to give up the ballistic missiles, ready to do everything.
But that Netanyahu does not want that.
And then Trump caught Netanyahu through Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic working with Waltz.
It was either a useful idiot, but probably not.
Probably blackmailed or something.
Bringing the car into the chat.
And then the target was Hegseth because he's not anti-Israel, but he's anti-nuclear war and attacking Iran.
I feel like it's been less than a month, but I just want to give credit that this is something that he has been saying.
I don't believe the sourcing and insider information part of it, but I got to call balls and strikes.
This is an interesting way that Alex has decided to explain the whole situation with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseph leaking plans to bomb Yemen in multiple signal chats.
Apparently, he did everything right, but National Security Advisor Mike Waltz added Atlantic reporter Jeffrey Goldberg to their group chat, most likely because he was being blackmailed by Netanyahu.
So he stepped down from his position and was promptly nominated to be our ambassador to the UN.
Alex is telling the story this way because Waltz is the punching bag in the story.
So naturally, he's going to be at the center of this conspiracy.
This still doesn't explain why Hegseth sent his family messages about the military plans in Yemen, but a guy like Alex doesn't let those kind of details get in the way of his ability to tell a fun, fake story.
I think that Alex isn't operating off of inside information, but he's intuitive enough to see what's going on in the world and realize that Netanyahu has become way lower of a priority for Trump this presidency as opposed to the last one.
There have been a string of actions he's taken that have been a bit out of step with the Israeli government's wishes, and it's pretty easy to see that a huge part of this is because Trump personally has huge business dealings with other countries in the Gulf like Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
One of these actions is that Trump negotiated a deal with the Houthis to stop bombing Yemen in exchange for them stopping attacking ships and blocking trade routes.
That deal didn't include a concession that they would stop shooting missiles at Israeli targets, and they made it very clear that they intended to continue doing that.
After that, Trump's administration negotiated directly with Hamas to get the last U.S. citizen hostage that they had taken released, leaving Netanyahu's government out of the loop.
All of it does add up to the appearance of chilling relations, but I don't think it's political at all.
It seems like it's all about what makes the most sense for Trump in terms of money personally.
The line between his business interests and our foreign policy is really blurry at the moment.
Yeah, it is fascinating because if you just look at it, Very Emperor has no clothes, you can see the way everybody else is trying to, or like the way that all the important people, so to speak, are trying to twist themselves into knots to explain this behavior in a way that fits within the paradigm previous administrations have, which is like, a little theft is fine.
So, Netanyahu in the last three, four months has tried to muscle Trump behind the scenes and publicly, and Trump doesn't like that.
And he already forgiven Netanyahu when he was the first foreign leader to call and congratulate and endorse Biden when he stole the election four and a half years ago.
And I told you, building up to the summer, Antiva would start taking over buildings.
They start burning things down.
Black Lives Matter would show back up.
You'd have members of Congress and mayors storming ICE facilities.
I told you over and over again.
And it's right up into the summer.
And now someone has convinced Trump to pardon Chauvin, Shavon, the innocent cop with the George Floyd thing, which I think should happen.
But Trump's going to do that report to the police department's ever been told.
That's perfect timing to get the Democrats rioting.
And look, Trump's not stupid.
I think he's getting ready to do that to have them go ahead and have their fit now before they've really built it up to the hottest part of the summer.
Remember, Red Adair invented the famous oilfield firefighter over 100 years ago in Texas.
He just had the idea to roll a wheelbarrow of dynamite into a well that's on fire because he'll burn for months, sometimes for years, and blow it up, and that knocks all the oxygen out in the explosion.
And it basically works every time.
I mean, look, if Trump really pardons the cop that didn't kill George Floyd, I'm sorry.
Because they've already pre-programmed it everywhere.
Trump and Tom Holman are going to kill all the illegal aliens.
They're going to kill the migrants in a protest.
Well, they're telling you the plan.
So that's what they're going to do.
It's not going to work because people are aware of it.
And I think it's cute that Trump is, according to our sources, at least to all the local departments all over the country, get ready that that pardon is coming.
And I haven't been told by administration that that's for sure what they're doing, but it fits.
So I'm just kind of giving you the wargaming and the inside baseball the way real people think.
Netanyahu gets to be the center of the tension and the big war leader, and you can't investigate him, and he's got to stay in power because he's going to keep the war going and just repeat over and over again about how vicious and evil and animalistic and horrible the Muslims are and how the Hamas and Hamas are lightweights compared to Al-Qaeda and ISIS.
And who has all come out?
I told you about 25 years ago, but it's all come out in the documents, the USAID money.
It's come out of Israel.
Israel doesn't even deny it.
Netanyahu, since he first got in office off and on 25 years ago, openly funds Al-Qaeda and then ISIS all over the Middle East and funded them and gave them air cover to take over Syria this year, this year, and then put the global head of Al-Qaeda in as their president.
And I played CNN saying, well, he was what he did with Al-Qaeda, but now he's reformed.
The interim president of Syria is a man named Ahmed Al-Shara, who was definitely an al-Qaeda-linked fighter in Syria, who is notably trying to unite the Nusra front with ISIS.
According to the BBC, the U.S. government had a $10 million bounty on him until December 2024.
And he's a former detainee at Abu Ghraib like 20 years ago.
Trump was just in Riyadh meeting with Gulf state leaders, and Al-Shara was there.
Trump moved to drop U.S. sanctions on Syria and said of Al-Shara, he's a, quote, young, attractive guy, tough guy, strong past, very strong past, fighter.
It's probably a good thing to drop those sanctions since they most likely were only hurting the people of the country.
But the dissonance of what's going on and how Alex is engaging with this is pretty stark.
Alex is a guy who's pretty supportive of Assad because his dictatorship was supposed to be the thing that was keeping the Muslims there from killing the Christians.
Now there's a former al-Qaeda fighter who's the new president.
Like, I would pretend that the Middle East as a whole simply does not exist because there's no situation where Trump goes to the Middle East and just says something like, hi, where you don't have to defend horrors.
I know Alex is gullible, but this is a little much.
So the whole plot about Palpatine tricking Jar Jar Binks into voting him to give him supreme power over the Intergalactic Senate happens in episode 2, Attack of the Clones, which came out in May 2020, or 2002.
It was all shot before 9-11, so it was definitely not inspired by the U.S. response to that.
I found the interview that Alex is talking about with George Lucas from 2005, around when Revenge of the Sith came out.
It's in Wired, and he's asked about his interest in making historical films.
Lucas says, quote, yes, but I don't want to get into a situation where people say that's not historically correct.
History is fiction, but people seem to think otherwise.
The thing I like about fantasy and science fiction is that you can take issues, pull them out of their cultural straitjackets, and talk about them without bringing folk artifacts that make people get closed-minded.
The interview guy says, quote, give me an example of what you mean by a folk artifact.
And George replies, quote, Fahrenheit 9-11.
People went nuts.
The folk aspects of that film were George Bush or Iraq or 9-11 or intense emotional issues that made people put up their blinders and say, I have an opinion about this and I'm not going to accept anything else.
If you could look at these issues more open-mindedly at what's going on with the human mind behind all this on all sides, you could have a more interesting conversation without people screaming, plugging their ears, and walking out of the room like kids do.
George wasn't saying that 9-11 was an inside job.
He was talking about Fahrenheit 9-11 in the context of how it had opened up the genre of documentaries to be theatrical releases in a way that it really hadn't before.
And that was something he was interested in.
It is possible, though, that George Lucas was a 9-11 truth guy.
I don't know if you've heard Seth Rogan's story about him.
The short version of it is Seth Rogan was warned by George Lucas that the world was going to end in 2012.
All these pathetic establishment people trying to hold on to power for dear life.
So delusional, they don't know the world hasn't just moved on.
The world hates Bill Gates, hates Klaus Schwab, hates Barack Obama, hates Michelle Obama, hates Joe Biden, hates Keir Starmer, hates Emmanuel Macron, hates them, hates them, hates them, hates them, and knows you're trash.
And the world hates Benjamin Yetan Yahoo.
And 80-some percent of the Israelis don't like him.
So we're going to get into the big developments and play a very important clip before I get to Trump's statement he just made about this $600 million plus deal with Saudi Arabia and more.
But before we do that, we have a new flash sale that is only running for a few days.
I mean, I guess, I guess, if you wanted to, I don't think, I don't think hates is silly.
I think it's ultimately there is something that he is talking about, which is that everybody resents these people because they feel like they are never held accountable to the choices that they've made that affect other people.
And again, when I tell you it's an adventure to wear one of these shirts, you get your dinner bought for you in small towns and even in big cities, and you'll get pretty much nothing but love.
Except, you know, occasionally you might get coffee dumped in your head or something like that.
But wearing one of these shirts is pretty close to being Alex Shones.
That is a serious war crime by NATO, Turkey, and Israel to go destroy Syria and turn it over to the most radical scumbag foaming at the mouth al-Qaeda trash.
I don't want to hear moralizing out of Mark Levin and all the other neocons that are left that pose as constitutionalist.
Or the Ben Shapiros.
Oh, yeah, take your shot.
It works.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I'm against Trump's tariffs.
Oh, yeah.
Done.
And emblematically, all of their neocon media operations that had billions pumped into them like the Daily Wire are collapsing because populists and conservatives see through it.
And if you don't think Trump is risking his life telling Benjamin Netanyahu no, and if you don't appreciate President Trump, and if you don't pray for him, then all I can say is you need to have your fucking head examined.
So Alex's position here checks out with most of the things that he's professed to believe.
He didn't want Assad to be ousted, and he's mad at people like Mark Levin and Man Shapiro who aren't being harder about the new president of Syria being a former fighter linked with Al-Qaeda.
That anger makes sense, but he's not really dealing with the fact that Trump is fully supportive of the new Syrian government.
Alex is saying, even at the beginning of that clip, he's saying that Turkey helped overthrow Assad, and it was Turkey's president Erdogan who set up the meeting between Trump and Al-Shara in Saudi Arabia.
Much like with the Qatari plane, this is an angle of the story that I'd just skip if I were Alex.
Being so mad at these other hosts only reveals that he doesn't have the same expectations of Trump that he does of these other pundits.
To be totally fair, there are a number of good things in the bill, like cutting tax on tips and overtime and increasing the child tax credit.
But there's also a lot of really bad stuff in there.
According to a Washington Post analysis, there would be $625 billion in cuts to Medicaid and $677 billion in rescinded climate change-related spending.
They would also spend over $2 trillion extending Trump's 2017 tax cuts, which disproportionately favored the rich.
As with any budget-type bill, it's a complex mix of different interests pushing and pulling.
But with Alex, it's this oversimplified shit.
Like when he boiled down the tariffs to is 30 bigger than 10?
I love the idea of like, oh, we're going to focus on overtime and tips, which is like, one, if you're reporting those, you're the most honest person in the history of the world.
Do not pay taxes on your tips.
What are you insane?
And two, those are the number one places for wage theft.
Overtime and tips are the number one places where owners and operators are like, technically we're supposed to, you got to go.
But if you're going to tell me about a cup and you're like, oh, I'm going to pour some water into this cup, it's going to be the, but then only a little bit of water comes out.
And when Trump tells Saudi Arabia, go all in with us, invest everything, the media spends it like, oh my gosh, his family's got a couple business deals over there with golf courses and stuff while they're building a hotel over there.
So glad that corruption watchdog Alex Jones has taken a look at Trump's dealings with Saudi Arabia and decided they are all above board.
It was looking pretty transparently corrupt for a minute there, but Alex is the expert, so I'm going to go with him.
Funny story, though.
Elon didn't say that, although he did go with Trump on his trip to Saudi Arabia, which is cool.
The world's richest man, who may or may not still be involved with a fake government efficiency office that's reshaping our administrative state, but isn't a public official, he just came along with a state visit for fun.
Alex should be really, really pissed off about this trip because Musk wasn't the only billionaire who tagged along.
Sam Altman and BlackRock CEO Larry Fink were also there, which definitely does not make sense in Alex's world.
If you're trying to make sense of that from the story that Alex has told you, why is Larry Fink there?
I think we have a legitimate situation here where we could try and pull off of two popes.
You know, like if you want to be in the government right now, you have a thorough argument for just being like, I'm taking over because all of this is unconstitutional.
Alex brought up Trump's great accomplishment with the overthrowing of the Saudi Arabian government and killing of much of the royal family in response to the Las Vegas shooting.
I think it goes without saying that this is a nonsense fantasy that Alex has cooked up, but I'm fascinated by how the story he's telling is okay with him.
Maybe you could say, like, oh, I think that in the long run, the blah, blah, blah, maybe any number of things of like, this is redeemable, but at no point in time is this good guy shit.
I don't want, even if I like the guy, even if I really like the guy, even if I think that the president is a person of outstanding moral character, I do not believe he should have the ability to order people to murder several thousands of people in order to overthrow a country.
So that article that Alex is citing isn't about the stock market relying on the cartels smuggling in drugs.
It's about how there's a lot of legitimate businesses in Mexico that are run by cartels or cartel-connected people.
So if they're labeled as terrorist groups, it'll have the likely effect of making U.S. businesses not want to work with Mexican companies out of fear that they might be unwittingly supporting a terrorist group.
It's an obvious dynamic that Alex pretends not to understand in order to play headline games like this.
Either you treat with them as though they are such, or you bite the bullet and you fucking have to deal with the decades of chaos that's going to arise from trying to get rid of them.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's one thing that's probably pretty important for all of us is like when we talk about political ideology, if you're smuggling oil, your political ideology is, I'm an oil smuggler.
Because I think if you send those weapons into space, you might fuck around and be carrying out an aggressive act on another alien species that also has that technology.
Alex is all kinds of wrong about this story, but he just can't help himself from trying to bully a kid who survived a school shooting.
It's nuts.
That being said, the other vice chair who's going to be back up for election, who was on that combined ballot, Malcolm Kenyatta, had some negative things to say about Hogg recently.
In response to the news about this procedural issue with the election, Hogg made some comments about how he's working with a group called Leaders We Deserve, who are invested in primarying Democrats who are seen as ineffective in office.
Hogg said, or at least heavily implied, that the issue with the vice chair election was the result of the party wanting to push this out from the DNC so they wouldn't have these primary challengers being supported, which Kenyatta did not agree with.
He said, quote, he put out a statement saying that the Democratic Party, that the challenge yesterday is the Democratic Party trying to get him out of here.
David understands very well, like I understand, that this challenge was filed back in February, well before David ever said anything about leaders we deserve.
All of this doesn't sound good, but honestly, what's the difference between Alex is saying about Democrats liking Muslims there?
What's the difference between that and like a Klan member in the past?
I think watching the Democratic Party now makes me rethink how Independence Day, the movie, worked, you know, where it's like people used to argue, like, oh, if there's a world threat, people would finally come together.
No, absolutely not.
The Democratic Party could not have an easier big bad.
So here's RFK Jr. talking about, I don't believe, on prescription drugs, that what you sell them for in other countries, you're going to sell them for that here.
And boy, are they pissed because America is the right whale.
And I'll tell you about the right whale after this clip.
Here it is.
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Mr. Secretary, Trump says some prices will come down almost immediately.
Why did you pick the guy who most obviously sounds like the least healthy person in the history of health to be the head of the health and human services?
Pick anybody else.
Pick him for a different job.
Don't make me listen to a guy tell me about health who sounds like he's going to die at any moment.
Until the 60s and 70s, it was either like goat herders, Stone Age stuff, but some of the oldest civilizations in other areas on the coastlines, it was opulent.
The West went in and funded the radical cavemen Muslims and then sent them in to overthrow all of these stable Muslim countries.
I mean, look at the Arab Spring.
Obama overthrowing a bunch of our allies, overthrowing the Egyptian government and putting in Islamicists that blew up a couple thousand churches.
And again, Israel and Turkey just did it to Syria.
So I don't want to hear it.
Oh, I speak for the Christians and Jews of America, as I played last hour.
I'm Mark Levin, and we don't stand with Al-Qaeda.
Well, the hell you don't.
Your boss, Netanyahu, literally runs it.
He's the last standing neocon with any power.
So I don't want to hear it.
Stop talking to me like I'm culturally and historically a military illiterate.
I'm not, Mark.
And Trump is actually pro-Israel, and he understands that Iran is going to blow it off the map, and then Israel is going to blow them off the map, and then Pakistan and India are going to have a nuclear war, and all the war games are all dead, you dumb son of a bitch.
And I started to notice that all of the people that Alex was talking about, be they on the left or the right, he seems to only be talking about Jewish people.
So, Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and Benjamin Etan Yahoo and all of them can fly a kite as far as I'm concerned.
They can jump in the lake, piss up a rope.
And then you got the dialectic with the Rothschilds over there in the left and Soros funding all the radical Muslims and bringing him here and the universe and all.
It's just all disgusting.
And our center of the universe should not be the Jews and Muslims in their multi-thousand-year war with each other.
Doesn't mean we ignore the Middle East.
We go over there and do deals to make it prosperous.
I think, yeah, I think the U.S. military, presumably a small force, the special Trump force, Teamed up with the Saudi military who had turned on the royal family in coup style.