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May 16, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1038: May 13, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan watch Alex try to cover Trump's recent trip to Saudi Arabia, the new leadership in Syria, and whether or not he's on Ozempic.

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alex jones
20:59
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dan friesen
39:24
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jordan holmes
21:51
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robert f kennedy-jr
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Knowledge fight Damn and Jordan I am sweating Knowledge fight I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need, I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a huge fan.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Knowledge fight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan!
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is I was walking around the convenience store, and I happened to see some pretzels.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And they were Flips, the Flips brand.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You know the Flips, they put some chocolate on the pretzel sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The flavor that they had.
It's a summer flavor.
And I thought it said fried chicken.
Right.
jordan holmes
That's interesting.
dan friesen
I was worried.
So I grabbed it immediately.
jordan holmes
Of course.
I mean, a fried chicken pretzel is going to be eaten.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it was actually fried chocolatey sandwich cookie.
So it was like fried Oreos.
Like a carnival treat that you would get.
You know, deep fried Oreos.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They tried to recreate that flavor.
In a Flips chocolate-covered pretzel.
It's not successful.
It's garbage.
But for that split second that I thought it was fried chicken, I was so excited.
Fried chocolatey looks a lot.
jordan holmes
That would have been an incredible achievement.
Okay.
And I don't know why this is.
I don't know why this is.
But a fried Oreo thing?
Don't care.
Don't like it.
Don't want it.
And if you fail to achieve that, that's on you.
You suck.
A fried chicken pretzel?
Win or lose, I admire the goddamn gumption.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's a lot of nerve to put that out.
And the steps that have to go into getting it onto a store shelf are very exciting to think about.
Fried Oreo, less so.
Although it is kind of...
It's not the first choice.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think they already did churro, and so that's why.
Cotton candy probably doesn't work if you're going to go for carnival flavors.
jordan holmes
Somebody just goes to the Iowa State Fair every year and is like, I guess we'll turn that horrifying monstrosity into a flavor next.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Pickle.
jordan holmes
Just Pickle.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is Andor.
dan friesen
Andor.
jordan holmes
Andor.
It ended.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
Andor ended.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Spoiler alert, it ends in the movie Rogue One.
dan friesen
I think you already have said that on this podcast.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I thought it was ending a couple of weeks ago, because I thought there was only nine episodes.
Turns out there was 12. So it ended yesterday.
My wife and I watched it.
dan friesen
But it was no spoiler for anybody who listens to our show that it ended.
jordan holmes
No, no spoilers.
dan friesen
Well-traveled territory.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was great.
Just from start to finish, it was a great show.
Good characters.
Good show.
dan friesen
I have two questions.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
One, did it make you want to go watch Rogue One?
jordan holmes
We immediately watched Rogue One.
dan friesen
That means it's probably fairly successful.
And that kind of answers my second question that I had, which is, if this was a show that was being released...
In the lead-up to the theatrical release of Rogue One?
jordan holmes
Everyone would go apeshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'd be really pumped to go.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
The idea of having to wait even...
Like, seriously.
We finished the 12th episode, the end of the series, and immediately started Rogue One.
The idea of having the series end and then knowing that like six months from now a movie would be...
Fuck that!
No shit!
Nuh-uh!
I'd be furious!
dan friesen
That's high praise for the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
Alright, maybe I'll watch it.
jordan holmes
I would watch it!
unidentified
Okay!
jordan holmes
Do it!
dan friesen
Stop yelling at me!
I won't!
Okay.
No, I like that it's kind of limited, too.
You know, there's not going to be 20 seasons of it or whatever.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
I'll give it a fucking whirl.
jordan holmes
It really, honestly, it really is great.
dan friesen
What's it on?
Peacock?
Disney Plus?
jordan holmes
Disney Plus.
Yeah, Star Wars.
dan friesen
Okay, Star Wars.
jordan holmes
Star Wars.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have a Star Wars to go over.
jordan holmes
We have a Star Wars?
dan friesen
Actually, George Lucas does come up.
jordan holmes
Wow!
Interesting.
dan friesen
Later, but...
jordan holmes
Connor Ratliff is the guest on this episode.
dan friesen
No, no, although his spirit will be there when I talk about George Lucas briefly.
But, no, this is a dumb episode of Alex's Stupid Show, and we'll talk about it here in a minute.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new woks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I'm a policy wank.
I'm a policy...
You're now a policy wank.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Harumph.
Next, Alex Jones just wants to be a drama YouTuber.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And shout out to Tempokov, Big Titty Jesse, and all the other Knowledge Fight Listening DBHQ posters from your boy Spiffy.
Love y 'all.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too.
After more than a thousand episodes of Knowledge Fight, my immediate takeaways are, one, that every time Alex does that stupid list of adverbs, I can't help tacking on ecumenically in a Jack Sparrow voice.
And also, fuck you forever for making me know what Alex Jones sounds like having an orgasm on live TV.
I hate you.
Take my money and get out of my face.
Love, Charlie.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I think that we've heard a variation a number of different times that Alex has busted.
Yep.
So I don't even know what the person was specifically referencing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That's kind of the problem.
And there's a varietal.
There's a varietal.
So you never know what's real or what's fake with Alex.
dan friesen
Everybody thinks that they have one O-face.
jordan holmes
Everybody does think that.
dan friesen
No.
You have a range.
So we start off on this episode, we're talking about May 13th.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And Alex...
He's aware that Trump has gone to Saudi Arabia, and he's doing this tour through the Gulf states.
And he's listing off some of Trump's victories in the second term.
alex jones
If people aren't impressed with Trump overall, I don't understand that massive history is happening every day, and the entire globalist system is going down the crapper.
And that he's trying to stabilize the whole planet and just create absolute success and lowering energy prices that is the bedrock of a successful, vibrant society.
And that he's rallying people all over the world that want that.
You've got to hand it to the Saudi Arabians with their new leadership since Trump and the Crown Prince had that big coup when the Saudi Arabians staged the Vegas attack.
Trump and the Saudi prince took out all those guys and killed thousands of them.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
Crown prince's cousins got tortured to death.
Of course, the public doesn't know about that because, you know...
jordan holmes
No, we don't!
alex jones
The public watches corporate media and doesn't put the big boy pants on.
But, you know, Trump sees the Panama Canal.
I mean, it's just...
Trump's totally destroyed the BRICS operation.
The whole world's in line with us.
dan friesen
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Saudi Arabia faked the Las Vegas shooting.
jordan holmes
What the fuck just happened?
dan friesen
Or did the Las Vegas shooting, and then Trump overthrew the government of Saudi Arabia and killed everybody.
I know Alex has sort of hinted in that direction before, but this is, he's laying it out there.
jordan holmes
I did not see that coming.
dan friesen
No?
jordan holmes
No!
Nope!
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex remembers the name of the guy who did the Las Vegas shooting.
But the storyline, I guess, is that Saudi Arabia, working with the globalists, did the Las Vegas shooting.
And then in response, Trump put on his big boy pants and went over there and killed the royal family.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then installed MBS on the throne.
jordan holmes
That...
Does sound like a plausible sequence of events.
dan friesen
And then said, hey, it's cool that you murdered Jamal Khashoggi.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
Well, I mean, okay.
If this initial part of the story is true...
I think you gotta let him murder Khashoggi.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's got a lot of dirt on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Too much dirt.
dan friesen
I want to get into this more, but Alex revisits this later in the episode, and he has a bit more detail.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we'll get to it.
I just thought it was a little shocking to be on the list of accomplishments right at the beginning of the episode.
jordan holmes
Right out the gate!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He took the Panama Canal and...
jordan holmes
I feel like we could have...
You know what?
I think the order was wrong.
We could have eased into it with he took the Panama Canal and you're like, okay, that's fair.
Maybe we should discuss what taking and how awful that is.
But whatever.
We'll just move on.
And then he installed MBS.
That's your second move.
dan friesen
You should also start from more solid ground.
Absolutely.
He whined about DEI stuff in an executive order.
Then he took the canal.
Then...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He stole a lot of money from people and then gave it to his rich friends.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, Alex likes to fancy himself as a man who doesn't promise you a utopia.
He likes to think that he doesn't do that.
jordan holmes
He takes the wool back over your eyes and shows you the world for what it really is.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I mentioned on the last episode that sometimes he actually does promise utopias.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty great.
dan friesen
Here's an example of that.
alex jones
I am so fired up and so excited about what's happening and going on that I am, quite frankly, frustrated.
That my fellow humans, on average, do not understand how historic all this is.
I mean, this is wild.
And I thought humanity would rally against the globalists and we'd have a long, protracted battle.
And then we've still got big issues and there's technology issues and AI.
I mean, I'm not saying we're headed for a cakewalk here, but the ridiculous, globalist, dandruff-covered Rothschild-Rockefeller system is...
in ashes and what you see coming into the vacuum is everybody else who just wants to have laissez-faire success and go to space and get life extension that's already there and free energy and you're seeing the beginning of that and I'm telling you once Trump stabilizes the planet they're going to roll out all of these new advanced technologies that they've got on record that doesn't sound true and it's just going to be amazing you have no faith You don't believe that at all?
jordan holmes
Zero faith.
dan friesen
That once Trump stabilizes the planet, he's going to roll out magical medical technology and free energy?
jordan holmes
I'm suggesting now, and listen, I'm open to the possibility that people are capable of change.
But generally speaking, if you want to think about what a person might do in the future, take a look at their track record.
He's a very old man.
He's been rich his entire life.
dan friesen
He has a lot of track record.
jordan holmes
Let's see what he's done with all of his stuff.
You know, he's had a lot of money in the past.
He's stabilized much of his own business, quote unquote.
Has he then spread that to his contractors?
Has he even just...
Paid people the appropriate agreed-upon amount.
No?
Well, then I suspect that that's how it's going to be going forward.
dan friesen
Well, I think that, you know, everyone talks about how Trump, you know, some of his properties, they wouldn't rent to black people.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You can't sleep here.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But what they don't tell you is that the news never wants to report the second part, which is, you can't sleep here.
Because I've got a magic med bed for you.
jordan holmes
Ooh, there we go.
I had not considered that.
dan friesen
You can't rent this apartment because I have magical technology to offer you.
jordan holmes
This apartment isn't good enough for you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I've got to get you into the magical med beds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
So I think this is a little bit of a utopian fantasy that Alex is having.
And I think that when your if-then statement is, if Trump stabilizes the world, then we'll get all this stuff.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
I don't know if anybody's ever stabilized the world.
jordan holmes
I would suggest that the world maintains its instability with almost ironclad strength.
dan friesen
So, Trump does not like Benjamin Netanyahu.
jordan holmes
Sure, I don't think anybody does.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think he's having a rough one.
Bad from a PR standpoint right now.
jordan holmes
I mean, just like, listen, regardless of what you think about the things he's doing, I think he's just a very unlikable guy, especially in the current circumstances.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Alex talks about how Trump does not like him, and maybe Benjamin Netanyahu's actually behind Signal Gate.
jordan holmes
Oh, that sounds true.
alex jones
I told you a month ago that I talked to multiple high-level individuals.
That had directly talked to Trump in the last day.
I mean, you've got people that are in the room and talking to Trump on the phone, and Trump's telling them, can't say who he told, that he's completely done with Netanyahu and that Netanyahu is a criminal and a psychotic.
And wants to start a nuclear war, and that Iran and China and Russia, if he attacked Iran, are going to come into it, and it's going to cause a total expansion of the World War III scenario we've already entered.
And that Iran is ready to give up the ballistic missiles, ready to do everything, but that Netanyahu does not want that.
And then Trump caught Netanyahu through...
Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic, working with Waltz, who was either a useful idiot, but probably not.
Probably blackmailed or something.
Bringing Goldberg into the chat.
And then the target was Hegseth, because he's not anti-Israel, but he's anti-nuclear war and attacking Iran.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, I will say that Alex has been saying that Trump secretly doesn't like Netanyahu for a while now.
robert f kennedy-jr
Sure.
dan friesen
I feel like it's been less than a month, but I just want to give credit that this is something that he has been saying.
I don't believe the sourcing and insider information part of it, but I gotta call balls and strikes.
This is an interesting way that Alex has decided to explain the whole situation with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseff leaking plans to bomb Yemen in multiple signal chats.
Apparently, he did everything right, but National Security Advisor Mike Waltz added Atlantic reporter Jeffrey Goldberg to their group chat, most likely because he was being blackmailed by Netanyahu.
robert f kennedy-jr
That sounds true.
dan friesen
So Waltz was chosen to take the fall for this, so he stepped down from his position and was promptly nominated to be our ambassador to the UN.
Alex is telling the story this way because Waltz is the punching bag in the story, so naturally he's going to be at the center of this conspiracy.
This still doesn't explain why Hegseth sent his family messages about the military plans in Yemen, but a guy like Alex doesn't let those kind of details get in the way of his ability to tell a fun, fake story.
I think that Alex isn't operating off of inside information, but he's intuitive enough to see what's going on in the world and realize that Netanyahu has become way lower of a priority for Trump this presidency as opposed to the last one.
There have been a string of actions he's taken that have been a bit out of step with the Israeli government's wishes, and it's pretty easy to see that a huge part of this is because Trump personally has huge business dealings with other countries in the Gulf like Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
One of these actions is that Trump negotiated a deal with the Houthis to stop bombing Yemen in exchange for them stopping attacking ships and blocking trade routes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
After that, Trump's administration negotiated directly with Hamas to get the last US citizen hostage that they had taken released, leaving Netanyahu's government out of the loop.
All of it does add up to the appearance of chilling relations, but I don't think it's political at all.
It seems like it's all about what makes the most sense for Trump in terms of money, personally.
The line between his business interests and our foreign policy is really blurry at the moment.
jordan holmes
I'm going to refer back to what I said about past behavior being a predictor of future events.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think a lot of this is quite easy to understand with the sort of model of Trump that I have in my brain.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is fascinating because if you just look at it, very emperor has no clothes.
You can see the way everybody else is trying to, or like the way that all the important people, so to speak, are trying to like twist themselves into knots to explain this behavior in a way that fits within the paradigm previous administrations have, which is like, a little theft is fine.
We're all stealing a little bit.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But we've got the nation's interests at heart, you know?
Except for when it can, you know, except for when we don't want to.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that a lot of times in the past, a little bit of a...
Would get someone to, like, have a little shame and recognize it.
jordan holmes
Hey, you're stealing a little too much.
dan friesen
I'm going a little far.
Get greedy.
jordan holmes
Listen, buddy, buddy.
dan friesen
And that's not happening.
That's not happening this time.
unidentified
Nope.
Nope.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about this dispute and not seeing eye to eye between Trump and Netanyahu.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think this sounds like teens fighting.
alex jones
So Netanyahu in the last three, four months has tried to muscle Trump behind the scenes and publicly.
And Trump doesn't like that.
And he'd already forgiven Netanyahu when he was the first foreign leader to call and congratulate and endorse Biden when he stole the election four and a half years ago.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And then wouldn't even talk to Trump after that for years.
You think Donald Trump forgets that?
dan friesen
Do you think he forgets that?
You know, Netanyahu says that Trump broke up with him, but it was the other way around.
jordan holmes
Honestly.
Honestly, I absolutely think he forgets that.
Until he doesn't, and then he does again.
Hey, how much are you paying me?
I've forgotten it.
I want something from you?
Surprise, I have not forgotten it.
dan friesen
This sounds like children.
But the problem is that I think this also fits with my model of what I think Trump acts like.
So, that's a bubber.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, the summer is coming up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so that can only mean one thing.
jordan holmes
Rage?
dan friesen
Yep.
Summer of Rage is coming.
Sure.
And Alex talks about how it's going to start.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Or maybe it's not going to start.
jordan holmes
Is it a race war?
dan friesen
It is going to involve race war dynamics.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I told you, building up to the summer, Antifa would start taking over buildings.
They'd start burning things down.
Black Lives Matter would show back up.
You'd have members of Congress and mayors storming ice facilities.
I told you over and over again, and it's...
Right up into the summer.
And now someone has convinced Trump to pardon Chauvin, the innocent cop, the George Floyd thing, which I think should happen, but Trump's going to do that reportedly.
The little police departments have already been told.
That's perfect timing to get the Democrats rioting.
And look, Trump's not stupid.
I think he's getting ready to do that to...
Have them go ahead and have their fit now before they've really built it up to the hottest part of the summer.
Remember, Red Adair invented the famous oil field firefighter over 100 years ago in Texas.
He just had the idea to roll a wheelbarrow of dynamite into a well that's on fire, because it'll burn for months, sometimes for years, and blow it up, and that knocks all the oxygen out of the explosion, and it...
Basically works every time.
I mean, look, if Trump really pardons the cop that didn't kill George Floyd...
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
...given a fake trial, the autopsy said that he died of fentanyl.
I mean, that's all on record.
And the prosecutors hid that information.
That's all come out.
It's the right thing to do, but why would Trump do that right now?
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
It's actually smart.
See, before they mowed out a bunch of illegal aliens in a demonstration and blame it on us, because that's coming.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Because they've already pre-programmed it everywhere.
Trump and Tom Homan are going to kill all the illegal aliens.
They're going to kill the migrants in a protest.
Well, that, they're telling you the plan.
So, that's what they're going to do.
It's not going to work because people are aware of it.
And I think it's cute that Trump is, according to our sources, at least to the local departments all over the country, get ready that that pardon is coming.
I haven't been told by the administration that that's for sure what they're doing, but it fits.
So I'm just kind of giving you the wargaming and the inside baseball the way real people think.
jordan holmes
Is that what that was?
alex jones
This is a broadcast for adults and serious people that actually want to know what's going on.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is serious.
So it's fun to listen to Alex talk this stuff out like he's having a conversation with himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like he doesn't...
In fact, I think he goes in a circle through that clip.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Trump pardoning Derek Chauvin would be bad because that would be the thing that the left wants to use as an inciting incident to protest against.
So giving them that justification to riot would be dumb of Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But then again...
Alex is supposed to believe that Chauvin is innocent, so is he gonna advocate for an innocent person to be kept in prison just because the left might respond poorly to his release?
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
That's an unsustainable model for the legal system, and Alex definitely can't defend that.
So maybe pardoning Chauvin is actually really smart.
It looks dumb because it'll trigger the left into doing the Summer of Rage, but maybe it's brilliant for Trump to do it now, so the left jumps over the line of scrimmage prematurely.
They're gonna get a penalty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, false start.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is how adults think.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what anyone is doing in this conception of how events work, but if we do exist in that, I'm mad at everybody.
I think, you know what?
Trump, I think everything you're doing is wrong, but more importantly, this is just a poor plan.
It's a poor plan!
dan friesen
Well, do you mean the imagined plan to cut protesters off at the pass by releasing Chauvin too early?
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
Faceless globalists in this scenario.
This is also a bad plan.
Everybody's doing a bad job.
Everybody take it.
Take five.
Everybody take five.
Re-evaluate what your goals are and restart.
dan friesen
You just picture Soros sitting in a command bunker and Chauvin gets released and he's diving at an emergency riot button.
jordan holmes
Oh no, riot!
We gotta go now!
dan friesen
It was supposed to happen next week.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
My...
Carefully laid plans to wait until a thing happens, maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah, very dumb.
But this is how adults think, and this is real war gaming.
jordan holmes
This is big boy pants.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Benjamin Netanyahu funded Al-Qaeda, and then Al-Qaeda took over Syria, and Alex is sick of the shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Netanyahu gets to be the center of the tension and the big war leader, and you can't investigate him, and he's got to stay in power.
Because he's going to keep the war going and just repeat over and over again about how vicious and evil and animalistic and horrible the Muslims are and how the Hamas and Hamas are lightweights compared to Al-Qaeda and ISIS and who has all come out, I told you about 25 years ago, but it's all come out in the documents, the USAID money, it's come out of Israel.
Israel doesn't even deny it.
Netanyahu, since he first got in office off and on 25 years ago, openly funds al-Qaeda and then ISIS all over the Middle East and funded them and gave them air cover to take over Syria this year.
jordan holmes
This year.
alex jones
And then put the global head of al-Qaeda in as their president.
And I played CNN saying, well, he also needed al-Qaeda.
But now he's reformed.
dan friesen
Oh man, if Alex doesn't like what he's imagined, Netanyahu thinks of the new president of Syria.
Wait until he hears what Trump said about him.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
The interim president of Syria is a man named Ahmed al-Shara, who was definitely an al-Qaeda-linked fighter in Syria, who was notably trying to unite the Nusra Front with ISIS.
According to the BBC, the U.S. government had a $10 million bounty on him.
Nice.
and he's a former detainee at Abu Ghraib like 20 years ago.
unidentified
Nice.
dan friesen
Trump was just in Riyadh meeting with Gulf state leaders and Al-Shara was there.
Trump moved to drop U.S. sanctions on Syria and said of al-Sharah, he's a, quote, young, attractive guy, tough guy, strong past, very strong past, fighter.
He's got a real shot at holding it together.
He's a real leader.
He led a charge, and he's pretty amazing.
All right.
jordan holmes
I mean, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's probably a good thing to drop those sanctions since they most likely were only hurting the people of the country, but the dissonance of what's going on and how Alex is engaging with this is pretty stark.
Alex is a guy who's pretty supportive of Assad because his dictatorship was supposed to be the thing that was keeping the Muslims there from killing the Christians.
Now there's a former Al-Qaeda fighter who's the new president, so...
Alex has to be very against that, but now Trump is making nice with the guy.
Alex is in an unwinnable situation here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that is kind of the thing, you know?
Oh, I hate those guys!
And then the IRA is in Sinn Féin.
You know, you never know.
Time happens, and then later on your allies are your enemies, and your enemies are your allies.
Maybe just don't be an asshole all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Alex has certainly put himself into a weird box.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm excited to see how he tries to get out of it.
Maybe just by ignoring.
I think ignoring's the way to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would pretend that it doesn't exist.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Especially now.
Like, I would pretend that the Middle East as a whole simply does not exist because there's no situation where Trump goes to the Middle East and just says something like, hi, where you don't have to defend horrors.
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So I think one strategy you could take, though, is just talk about Star Wars.
jordan holmes
I think it's the best strategy for my life.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so we're going to do that a little bit.
Alex is going to reminisce on how George Lucas wrote the Star Wars movies in the 70s, but also about 9-11.
jordan holmes
Goddammit.
alex jones
George Lucas rewrote episode three of Star Wars that came out of a few years after 9-11.
He was on the news and said, no, I think 9-11 is basically an inside job.
And this is an allegory of that.
What's the senator do?
He keeps hiring people to attack his own planet so that he gets elevated as a victim, and then he attacks the main imperial planet when he's already the chancellor to become the emperor.
And George Lucas said, yeah, that's al-Qaeda.
Exactly.
I mean, Star Wars Episode III had a whole new script written for it and a whole new book because he originally wrote those books back in the 70s.
He wrote...
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Oh no, Alex has bought the hype about George Lucas having written all the movies back in the 70s.
jordan holmes
He did not.
dan friesen
I know Alex is gullible, but this is a little much.
So the whole plot about Palpatine tricking Jar Jar Binks into voting him to give him supreme power over the intergalactic senate happens in episode 2, Attack of the Clones, which came out in May 2002.
It was all shot before 9-11, so it was definitely not inspired by the U.S. response to that.
jordan holmes
Can't possibly be.
It was mainly CGI.
dan friesen
I found the interview that Alex is talking about with George Lucas from 2005, around when Revenge of the Sith came out.
It's in Wired, and he's asked about his interest in making historical films.
Lucas says, quote, The interview guy says,
quote, And George replies, quote, People went nuts.
The folk aspects of that film were George Bush or Iraq or 9-11 or intense emotional issues that made people put up their blinders and say, I have an opinion about this and I'm not going to accept anything else.
If you could look at these issues more open-mindedly, at what's going on with the human mind behind all this on all sides, you could have a more interesting conversation without people screaming, plugging their ears, and walking out of the room like kids do.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
The short version of it is Seth Rogen was warned by George Lucas that the world was going to end in 2012.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, I mean, hey, come on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Come on!
He's very insistent that this did actually happen.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
Why not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So you might have been a Mayan apocalypse guy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think Alex...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, the thing about it is it's fun that Alex is embodying the thing that the quote itself is trying to warn against.
Like, because you're bringing your own bullshit to it, I can't talk to you about reality.
unidentified
Your folk artifacts.
jordan holmes
I can't talk to you about reality.
I have to remove these concepts and place them into fictional lightsaber wizard land so I can talk to you about things like a grown-up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And Alex is actively trying to convince Jar Jar Binks to give Trump the Senate.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yep.
dan friesen
But yeah, I mean, like, in terms of there being politics in those movies, yeah, of course.
George Lucas was clear that, like, Vietnam was the first movies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And obviously there's, you know, the rise of Hitler in the prequels.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And shit.
But yeah, Alex is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So he gets to ranting about how everyone hates the establishment.
Like Michelle Obama.
robert f kennedy-jr
Sure.
dan friesen
And Keir Starmer.
All of them suck.
jordan holmes
Is that all of them?
dan friesen
Yeah, they all suck.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All these pathetic establishment people.
Trying to hold on to power for dear life.
So delusional, they don't know.
The world hasn't just moved on.
The world hates Bill Gates.
Hates Klaus Schwab.
Hates Barack Obama.
Hates Michelle Obama.
Hates Joe Biden.
Hates Keir Starmer.
Hates Emmanuel Macron.
Hates them, hates them, hates them, hates them, and knows you're trash.
And the world hates Benjamin Netanyahu.
And 80-some percent of the Israelis don't like him.
So we're going to get into the big developments and play a very important clip before I get to Trump's statement he just made about this $600 billion plus deal with Saudi Arabia and more.
But before we do that, we have a new flash sale that is only running for a few days.
The Alex Jones Power Bundle Super Deal.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
Wow, what a...
unidentified
The Power Bundle Super Deal.
jordan holmes
The Power Bundle Super Deal.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a tongue twister.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You have to be taking brain force to say that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Power Bundle Super Deal.
That feels like a warm-up.
A Power Bundle Super Deal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
At IO, they make you say it back and forth over and over again.
jordan holmes
Yellow leather.
Yellow leather.
dan friesen
I think that Alex just assumes that everybody hates all these people because all he does is scroll through Twitter all day.
Like, I don't think that most people just going about their day in the United States have an opinion either way about Keir Starmer.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
I think they're largely oblivious of...
Maybe they know who he is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess if you wanted to...
I don't think Hates is silly.
I think it's ultimately there is something that he is talking about, which is that...
Everybody resents these people because they feel like they are never held accountable to the choices that they've made that affect other people.
dan friesen
Sure.
A lot of those examples you could describe that way.
Yeah.
And if you want to call that hate, then it might be right to say that you or I hate Bill Gates.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But that's certainly not the same thing that Alex is saying when he hates Bill Gates.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Which is, that's the breakdown.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I think there is an element of emotion behind it.
Pissed that these people are allowed to do whatever they want without any consequences, of course.
But at the same time, it's not like nobody's wandering around going, oh, I hate him!
Except for Alex.
dan friesen
Well, or what everybody appears to be if you just take in everything through Twitter.
It looks like everyone is in a ball about Keir Starmer.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
And that's the reality that Alex is reflecting.
So what was he plugging?
jordan holmes
The Super Power Bundle Deal Super Power Deal Deal Bundle Super!
dan friesen
Not anymore.
It's shirt time.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
While you're on the AlexShoneShore.com, be sure and check out the widest selection of Patriot apparel, t-shirts, ball caps, and more.
Some of the very best designs.
And it's an adventure to wear an M4 shirt or an Alex Shone shirt or a Trump shirt.
We have all the...
Classic 7076 style gear Americana.
The Gulf of America shirt that I designed that I'm very proud is the bestseller.
Very simple but powerful in the Fed.
dan friesen
No one cares about the Gulf of America anymore.
unidentified
On and on and on.
alex jones
So F the New World Order shirt's one of my favorites.
I've been trying to get a still shot of that with the blonde wearing it and the red shirt.
I think it's striking.
I think it should be a bestseller, but it's not.
I don't think we've ever shown it actually on air.
I've been trying a few months to get that on, but I don't know why.
I'm not mad.
It's like certain little ghosts of the machines.
I just go over and over again.
unidentified
I want this.
alex jones
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I love it.
It's okay.
The point is...
jordan holmes
Take no for an answer?
alex jones
There it is.
But I want the one in red.
unidentified
Sorry.
alex jones
So, a lot of amazing shirts.
Again, when I tell you it's an adventure to wear one of these shirts, you'll get your dinner bought for you in small towns and even in big cities, and you'll get pretty much nothing but love.
Except, you know, occasionally you might get coffee dumped in your head or something like that.
But wearing one of these shirts is pretty close to being out of shirts.
dan friesen
Buy my shirt, man.
It's a gamble.
jordan holmes
That's an interesting pitch.
dan friesen
You might get a free meal.
You might get scalded.
jordan holmes
On the whole, it evens out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what's important.
dan friesen
I think that I was thinking about what the most common experience you're going to have if you're somebody who buys Alex's shirt for an adventure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think it's the feeling of everyone immediately clocking you as an idiot and then politely ignoring you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the experience you're going to have.
Nine times out of ten out in the wild if you're wearing one of his shirts.
People are going to maybe be pretty nice to you because they don't want you to yell at them.
jordan holmes
Do you know what the irony of that shirt is, right?
You're buying it because you're listening to Infowars, which probably means you have a natural predilection towards paranoia.
You're wearing it, and because of that...
Everyone is looking at you for at least a moment.
dan friesen
Look, I'm not stupid.
I get that there's an overlap with the pinky ring.
I get that there's a little bit of...
jordan holmes
There's an experience.
It's an experience to wear a pinky ring.
dan friesen
It's an adventure.
jordan holmes
It's an adventure.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
I think that most of the reaction you're going to get is people just not wanting to set you off.
If they even understand what your shirt is.
Most people probably just have no idea or care.
And then the people who do know will be like, uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're just going to be like, if I make eye contact, there is a 50-50 shot, somebody is going to tell me a lot of things that I don't care about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do a show about Alex Jones, and I was in Indiana with Marty at one of his shows, and there was a guy with an Infowars shirt, and I was like...
Keep my distance.
I'm perfectly equipped to talk to this guy, and I have no interest.
jordan holmes
None.
None.
Don't have the time for it.
dan friesen
It's my job, and I have no interest.
jordan holmes
If you see a pinky ring on the AlexJonesShow.com, that would...
God, I would do it.
If I were him, I would do it.
dan friesen
That would be a real mindfuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just to fuck with you.
I would do it just to fuck with you because it's in a way that nobody could, like...
Deliberately be like, oh, see, he's...
dan friesen
I would respect it.
unidentified
I would respect the hell out of it.
jordan holmes
Oh, I would fuck with you so hard.
dan friesen
So, Alex, a lot of this episode ends up being him being really mad.
At Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.
Okay.
Pundits who are like, they are not mad enough about Al-Qaeda being in charge of Syria.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so Alex is mad at them that they aren't mad enough.
They're mad about Hamas.
Sure.
It's tough for him to articulate exactly, but he's quite mad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I don't want to hear it.
That is a serious war crime by NATO, Turkey, and Israel to go destroy Syria and turn it over to the most radical scumbag foaming at the mouth Al-Qaeda trash.
I don't want to hear moralizing out of Mark Levin and all the other neocons that are left that pose as constitutionalists.
Or the Ben Shapiro's.
Oh yeah, take your shot, it works.
Oh yeah.
Oh, I'm against Trump's tariffs.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
We're done.
And emblematically, all of their neocon media operations that had billions pumped into them, like the Daily Wire, are collapsing.
Because populists and conservatives see through it.
If you don't think Trump is risking his life telling Benjamin Netanyahu no, and if you don't appreciate President Trump, and if you don't pray for him, then all I can say is you need to have your fucking head examined.
dan friesen
So Alex's position here checks out with most of the things that he's professed to believe.
He didn't want Assad to be ousted, and he's mad at people like Mark Levin and Shapiro, who aren't being harder about the new president of Syria being a former fighter linked with al-Qaeda.
That anger makes sense, but he's not really dealing with the fact that Trump is fully supportive of the new Syrian government.
Alex is saying, at the beginning of that clip, he's saying that Turkey helped overthrow Assad, and it was Turkey's President Erdogan who set up the meeting between Trump and al-Shara in Saudi Arabia.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Much like with the Qatari plane, this is an angle of the story that I'd just skip if I were Alex.
Being so mad at these other hosts only reveals that he doesn't have the same expectations of Trump that he does of these other pundits.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's not good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, just avoid that shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Entirely.
Alex can handle a Middle East when the Iraq War is happening.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because there's the Iraq War and everything else, you know?
All you have to think about is, America, we hate Muslims this year.
That's what's in, you know?
Now, there's so many different political factions vying for little?
A lot?
Much?
I mean, more or less, it's all over the place.
There's no clarity of morality within any of that.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of like Alex can handle that shit when it's on pundit easy mode.
And when there's more complexity added to it, he just sounds like an idiot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's kind of where he is, trying to justify being mad at Mark Levin and fine with Trump.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
It's insane.
dan friesen
So, Trump, I don't know if you heard about this.
Did you hear about the Big Beautiful Bill?
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
What is the Big Beautiful Bill?
Oh, my God.
Don't make me.
dan friesen
You didn't hear about this?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's got a Big Beautiful Bill.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's how our government's run now.
jordan holmes
That's how it does.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Oh, inflation's down.
You got to read the financial papers to know that.
Oh, you don't want to hear this anywhere.
Here it is.
House Republicans released Trump-approved tax plan.
The one Big Beautiful Bill.
Tips, overtime, and family paychecks to get a huge boost.
Doing everything he promised to do.
Classic populist, blue-collar, Democrat policies before the 80s.
dan friesen
It's really funny to just flashback to Alex screaming about the Patriot Act and they choose this name in order to trick you sheeple.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The Big Beautiful Bill.
Just one Big Beautiful Bill.
jordan holmes
That sounds like the most evil shit.
I mean, wow.
dan friesen
And then Alex just cheers it on.
He's just like, yeah, good, great.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
All right.
dan friesen
So Ron Johnson, who's a big Trump supporter and recent 9-11 conspiracy proponent, said, quote, the big beautiful bill, I think it's the Titanic.
As it stands now, it does not look good that the Republicans are going to get this thing passed.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
To be totally fair, there are a number of good things in the bill, like cutting tax on tips and overtime and increasing the child tax credit.
unidentified
it.
dan friesen
But there's also a lot of really bad stuff in there.
According to a Washington Post analysis, there would be $625 billion in cuts to Medicaid and $677 billion in rescinded climate change related spending.
They would also spend over $2 trillion extending Trump's 2017 tax cuts, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As with any budget-type bill, it's a complex mix of different interests pushing and pulling, but with Alex, it's this oversimplified shit.
Like, when he boiled down the tariffs to, is 30 bigger than 10?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, that's the level of shit you're gonna get.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Big, beautiful bill.
jordan holmes
I love the idea of, like...
Oh, we're going to focus on overtime and tips, which is like, one, if you're reporting those, you're the most honest person in the history of the world.
Do not pay taxes on your tips.
What are you, insane?
And two, those are the number one places for wage theft.
Overtime and tips are the number one places where owners and operators are like...
Technically, we're supposed to...
You gotta go.
dan friesen
But in the sense that a lot of those things are places that are vulnerable for wage theft, it is better to free them of any tax burden.
For sure.
It is better.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Absolutely.
It is better.
But if you're going to...
Tell me about a cup.
And you're like, oh, I'm going to pour some water into this cup.
But then only a little bit of water comes out, practically speaking.
That's very frustrating.
dan friesen
Sure.
And then I might spit in the cup.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're overselling it.
A little bit.
dan friesen
So, Alex, he's decided, he's looked over all the angles on the deals that Trump is doing with Saudi Arabia.
And he's decided it's all cool.
jordan holmes
All of it!
alex jones
And when Trump tells Saudi Arabia, go all in with us, invest everything.
The media spins it like, oh my gosh, his family's got a couple business deals over there with golf courses and stuff while they're building a hotel over there.
Yeah, he's allowed to have businesses.
He's allowed to share in the success.
jordan holmes
No, he's not!
alex jones
No, he's not!
jordan holmes
He's not, though.
alex jones
And then, oh, he's screwing you.
No, he's not the one cutting off the Keystone Pipeline.
He's not the one killing the drilling.
You know, Elon Musk came out yesterday and he said, there should be no subsidies for EV cars, no subsidies for EV charging stations.
You know, you don't see subsidies on gas stations.
Now, where is he doing stuff for Elon?
Not.
Not.
dan friesen
So glad that corruption watchdog Alex Jones has taken a look at Trump's dealings with Saudi Arabia and decided they are all above board.
It was looking pretty transparently corrupt for a minute there, but Alex is the expert, so I'm going to go with him.
Funny story, though.
Elon didn't say that.
Although he did go with Trump on his trip to Saudi Arabia, which is cool.
The world's richest man, who may or may not still be involved with a fake government efficiency office that's reshaping our administrative state but isn't a public official, he just came along with a state visit for fun.
Alex should be really, really pissed off about this trip, because Musk wasn't the only billionaire who tagged along.
Sam Altman and BlackRock CEO Larry Fink were also there, which definitely does not make sense.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
In Alex's world, if you're trying to make sense of that from the story that Alex has told you, why is Larry Fink there?
jordan holmes
I think we have a legitimate situation here where we could try and pull off a two popes.
If you want to be in the government right now...
You have a thorough argument for just being like, I'm taking over because all of this is unconstitutional, so fuck it.
It's mine now.
Like, you can do that.
dan friesen
And I bet that if you let Trump keep using foreign policy for profit, he wouldn't mind.
jordan holmes
He really wouldn't care!
You'd be like, oh, now we've got two presidents, and then this one, and people would probably be fine with it for the most part.
dan friesen
One of them gives rambling speeches about how the other president is cute that he's pretending to be president.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And the other president just kind of ignores it and runs the...
Government?
jordan holmes
If we're in history, if we're talking about how historic everything is right now, here's the history of how it should work, right?
Trump is out of the country.
We don't allow him back in.
The people in the government are like, ha-ha, unconstitutional, and then he's just not allowed back in, and that's how it works.
He can be like, oh, I'm the president in absentia, and everybody will be like, good for you.
dan friesen
Sure you are.
Stay on that Scottish golf course.
jordan holmes
Go on out there and be over there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, it's a solution.
It's an option.
Anyway, Saudi Arabia.
We teased this earlier.
Alex brought up Trump's great accomplishment with the overthrowing of the Saudi Arabian government and killing of much of the royal family in response to the Las Vegas shooting.
jordan holmes
I feel like that should be a Pchenik angle, but Pchenik was like the Las Vegas shooting didn't even happen.
dan friesen
Yeah, he did say it was fake.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Pachanek should be the one who's straight up going like, no, it's actually the Saudi Arabian government, and now I am the king.
dan friesen
I think that he did have some Saudi storylines, but the shooting itself was fake.
But that doesn't mean that someone wasn't still doing something.
And he could have been involved with the levers.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So yeah, this is where we get a little bit more information about this.
alex jones
This has never even really been in the news.
dan friesen
Really?
alex jones
But it's a fact, because I know the people that were involved in it, and I told you back at the time, remember Vegas, the biggest mass shooting in U.S. history that they never want to talk about?
That was Saudi Arabia with the deep state trying to...
Embarrassed Trump.
And they ran the attack.
And they had their arms dealer cut out and thought he was just selling them weapons and he was CIA connected.
dan friesen
Classic.
alex jones
And then what did the United States do with Trump?
He went over there with a coalition of the reformers in Saudi Arabia.
And they wiped out all of the leadership.
In the royal family, because there's hundreds of them, because those kings don't just have one wife, and they wiped them out, killed a bunch of them, took them to the Ritz-Carlton and hung them up by their feet, took all their money away, the ones that got to live, and said, you're on house arrest for the rest of your life.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And if you ever try to think again, you see your brother here?
Pull his eyeballs out with pliers.
jordan holmes
Is that how you do that?
alex jones
But that's what was done.
And that's what the Arabs recognize and respect.
That's the kind of war Trump has where you never hear about it.
Trump reportedly had over 10,000 of the ruling class of Saudi Arabia killed.
jordan holmes
Well, that sounds like an international incident.
alex jones
And let's just say pretty vicious stuff.
You want brutal?
It was extremely brutal.
With our military right there next to the Saudi military.
So they all kind of got down in the pool full of blood.
Became blood brothers.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I think it goes without saying that this is a nonsense fantasy that Alex has cooked up, but I'm fascinated by how the story he's telling is okay with him.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
He's so into Trump and so racist against Arabs that this idea of overthrowing the whole government and installing a new ruler there?
No, no big deal.
Alex is not supposed to be in favor of the U.S. installing leaders in other countries.
So even though this isn't a true story, It says a lot that he's able to rationalize what he's describing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This should be a horrifying negative thing.
Like, this is what the CIA does in the past.
They've couped countries.
jordan holmes
This is not good guy shit.
At the very least, this is not good guy shit.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Maybe you could say, like, oh, I think that in the long run, the blah, blah, blah.
Maybe any number of things of, like, this is redeemable.
But at no point in time is this good guy shit.
dan friesen
It's not.
I mean, eyeball pliers is typically the work of a heel.
That's not good.
jordan holmes
I mean, I remember back in the day, like, oh, the thing that separates us from the baddies is we don't torture.
And it's like, ah, that's gone.
That's gone.
We're the baddies.
dan friesen
Well, the new president of Syria was in Abu Ghraib.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's fair.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
God damn it.
So I think that the way that you get around it not being good guy shit is that they fucking tried to embarrass Trump with that Las Vegas shooting.
jordan holmes
So you've got two militaries together in a line, I assume, and just machine-gunned thousands of royal family members.
dan friesen
10,000 or so.
jordan holmes
Listen, you gotta get rid of the Romanovs.
I get it.
You can't have any of them living.
dan friesen
And MBS did end up killing a bunch of, like, the sort of upper crust.
Totally.
You know, it's part of its takeover.
jordan holmes
He's a fucked up guy.
dan friesen
So there's not nothing that Alex is referring to.
It's just this fantasy of Trump doing this.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
I don't want, even if I like the guy.
Even if I really like the guy, even if I think that the president is a person of outstanding moral character, I do not believe he should have the ability to order people to murder several thousands of people in order to overthrow a country.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
With the, like, in service of installing the crown prince.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't want you to have that power.
dan friesen
No, it's messy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Not good.
It can only come back to hurt you.
dan friesen
I definitely feel like based on Alex's career, he would agree with what you just said.
jordan holmes
I feel like it's really not even that complicated.
I feel like a rational person has to agree with me.
And if you do not agree with me, you are an irrational person.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex, he's talking about how Trump killed all the Saudi royal family.
jordan holmes
Right, again, crazy!
dan friesen
Then he gets over to cartels and whatnot.
alex jones
The old system of the CIA is shipping drugs in here and laundering the money.
Trump says, you're not doing it anymore.
And the New York Times says, if Trump designates these groups as terrorists and actually shuts down the cartels, that will destroy Wall Street.
Remember the headline?
Why Trump's plan to designate cartels as terrorist groups would be bad for the stock market.
Pull the headline up.
Everything Catherine Rothson-Fitz has been saying on my show for 25 years.
Trump's like, no, our business is not going to be war and fentanyl and cocaine.
unidentified
It's going to be murder and heroin.
alex jones
We're not doing that.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
And Trump didn't have full control of our military in his first term.
Remember?
Yeah, there's the headline.
How labeling cartels terrorists could hurt the U.S. economy.
dan friesen
The Las Vegas shooting and the installing of Crown Prince Ben Salmon happened during Trump's first term.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is Alex trying to tell me that this amazing story of blood and overthrow happened while Trump didn't have full control of the military?
Kind of seems like he's just talking shit.
You know, all of the things that leaked.
All of the tell-all books.
I feel like someone probably would have published this one.
jordan holmes
I mean, I've read a few.
And I will say that all of them have at least three or four stories that are like, I can't tell that story.
So, I assume...
If this story is true, it's in one of those.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's in one of those...
dan friesen
I bet it is.
jordan holmes
It didn't get past the classified briefing kind of...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex is...
He's in the know.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So that article that Alex is citing isn't about the stock market relying on the cartels smuggling in drugs.
It's about how there's a lot of legitimate businesses in Mexico that are run by cartels or cartel-connected people, so if they're labeled as terrorist groups, it'll have the likely effect of making US businesses not want to work with Mexican companies out of fear that they might be unwittingly supporting a terrorist group.
It's an obvious dynamic that Alex pretends not to understand in order to play headline games like this.
And it's stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He knows.
jordan holmes
They're their own government and economy.
Either you treat with them as though they are such, or you bite the bullet and you fucking have to deal with the decades of chaos that's going to arise from trying to get rid of them.
dan friesen
And along the way, you might end up finding some weirdos in Utah who smuggle oil.
jordan holmes
That is possible?
dan friesen
It's not possible.
It happened.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
We found some oil smugglers.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so Alex is skimming over this headline about a couple out of Utah.
jordan holmes
Out of Utah.
dan friesen
Who smuggled $300 million worth of oil.
jordan holmes
Good for them!
dan friesen
Yeah.
And he's immediately like, oh, these guys are fucking Democrats.
alex jones
What?
What?
30 million Mexican oil smuggling scheme.
Feds raid 9.2 million mansion with battering ram.
Pull up his political background.
unidentified
Pull up his political background.
alex jones
All right, let's start getting to Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex sure jumped off that train of thought pretty quick.
jordan holmes
Strange how a Utahan couple with a $9.2 million mansion doesn't have the same political beliefs as what he thought, maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah, it sounds like a leftist in Utah oil smuggling.
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
So I spent a long time trying to see if I could find any indication of this guy's political beliefs.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I do think that I found evidence that he's a registered Republican.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There's also a James Jensen who was listed as a GOP delegate in the 2024 election, but that was in San Pete County.
And our oil smuggler was arrested in Sandy, Utah, which is a bit north of there.
It could be the same guy, but there's no way to know for sure, and I don't want to stake my reputation on it.
jordan holmes
I mean, multiple homes is probable.
I would assume so.
dan friesen
But Sandy's in Salt Lake County.
Salt Lake City County or whatever.
jordan holmes
I understand.
I understand.
dan friesen
So their two sons got arrested with them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Along with this.
And their respective middle names are Golden and Sterling.
So I think this is a family that fucking loves money.
jordan holmes
Fuck me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Wow.
See, I don't think they're Dems.
I think they're oil smugglers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think that's one thing that's probably pretty important for all of us, is when we talk about political ideology.
If you're smuggling oil, your political ideology is, I'm an oil smuggler.
dan friesen
The end.
Yeah, and I think that it's a headline that's so much funnier in your mind than it actually is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you just picture them with bags.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
I was picturing them with...
Oil barrels.
And you know how you can't, like, just drag them?
You have to kind of squirt, squirt on either side?
I was enjoying that image of two.
dan friesen
Or just rolling one?
jordan holmes
Absolutely, yeah.
dan friesen
Putting on its side, roll the barrel.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not how you smuggle oil, though, is it?
dan friesen
No, it's probably so boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's probably they have, like, two tanker ships that just move oil.
dan friesen
Probably even pipes.
unidentified
Yeah.
Ugh.
jordan holmes
That sucks.
There were probably mathematicians and engineers involved.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, I know we touched on George Lucas a little bit ago.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Do you remember the Death Star?
jordan holmes
I do remember the Death Star.
dan friesen
What do you think about it?
jordan holmes
Probably...
How about this?
I can see no reason to destroy an entire planet.
None!
dan friesen
So that cuts off my second question at the pass, which is, do you want one?
alex jones
Well...
jordan holmes
Those are very two different thoughts.
dan friesen
Because I think Alex thinks we should make one.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
alex jones
The stuff the U.S. has makes the Death Star in Star Wars look like a tinker toy.
And that's why this is so ridiculous.
I mean, in the 60s, we had hydrogen bombs that would blow New York City one bomb off the map.
jordan holmes
Not a building standing.
alex jones
What do you think they've got now?
Well, we know.
So at a certain point, it becomes ridiculous.
They've got antimatter isolated, and they theoretically, and they've leaked that they've got bombs that would just blow the entire planet, just gone, dust.
unidentified
So it's ridiculous.
alex jones
And that's why this war stuff has to stop.
That technology needs to go into spacecraft.
dan friesen
Okay, so that is the wrong ending to that thought.
I think I was with him up until the part where he said this is why war needs to stop.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Because these are too risky.
These are things we can't afford to get out of hand.
No, no, no.
We must use them on aliens.
We have to make our own Death Star.
jordan holmes
I'm not against...
Okay.
If we only have those options...
I suppose I'm happier with sending stuff to space than the war option.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Because I think if you send those weapons into space, you might fuck around and be carrying out an aggressive act on another alien species that also has that technology.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Then boom!
The Earth gets blown up.
jordan holmes
Well, the problem with...
dan friesen
They have their own Death Star.
jordan holmes
The problem with that is the moment you get out into space, you're probably going to find out you're the last person to get into space.
dan friesen
You may.
You may.
But I think that as long as these technologies are kept on Earth, everybody is a known variable.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're all humans.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
This is all our home.
You know?
Earth?
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I think once you go into space with Death Stars...
jordan holmes
All bets are off.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's hard to feel a real connection to the land if you are a Death Star.
dan friesen
It's also rude.
jordan holmes
It is rude.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is rude.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We share the universe.
dan friesen
I don't think that if a Death Star showed up, we would assume, hey, there's some cool aliens.
jordan holmes
It's a very aggressive thing to have.
Just to...
To exist.
It's a very aggressive thing to build.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't want to be that kind of spacefaring civilization.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
So, there was once a boy by the name of David Hogg who survived the Parkland shooting and then became a gun rights or gun control activist.
jordan holmes
Again, a very tragic story of a guy who's overcome quite a bit and he's moved on with his life and now he's a participant and he's doing the thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, he got harassed by the health ranger for a while along the way and now has risen into a position in politics.
And Alex is celebrating that maybe he's going to lose his position.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
And the Democrats have always had big problems, but they used to be the party that was at least on the surface anti-war.
Now they're foaming at the mouth winning nuclear war with Russia.
Sean Penn and others.
jordan holmes
Well, if Penn's in...
alex jones
What do you make of the Democrats?
And their complete and total meltdown.
They just removed David Hogg as the co-chair of the DNC because he went on Bill Maher and made pro-Israel statements.
You've got the Democrats that are foaming at the mouth, just anti-Israel, period, and pro-Muslim, and want to bring them all over here.
dan friesen
Again, David Hogg is not the co-chair of the DNC.
He was elected to one of the three vice chair positions, but an internal procedural complaint was made about the election.
One of the elected vice chairs got a majority vote, but Hogg and the other guy were elected on a, quote, combined ballot.
The DNC Credentials Committee voted that they would redo this vote, so there's a chance that Hogg is still going to win and be in this position.
Alex is all kinds of wrong about this story, but he just can't help himself from trying to bully a kid who survived a school shooting.
It's nuts.
That being said, the other vice chair who's going to be backup for election, who's on that combined ballot, Malcolm Kenyatta, had some negative things to say about Hogg recently.
In response to the news about this procedural issue with the election, Hogg made some comments about how he's working with a group called Leaders We Deserve, who are invested in primarying Democrats who are seen as ineffective in office.
Hogg said, or at least heavily implied, that the issue with the vice chair election was the result of the party wanting to push this out from the DNC so they wouldn't have these primary challengers being supported, which Kenyatta did not agree with.
He said, quote, he put out a statement saying that the Democratic Party, that the challenge yesterday is the Democratic Party trying to get him out of here.
David understands very well, like I understand, that this challenge was filed back in February, well before David ever said anything about leaders we deserve.
All of this doesn't sound good.
But honestly, what's the difference between what Alex is saying about Democrats liking Muslims there?
What's the difference between that and, like, a Klan member in the past?
It's the same energy.
He's become something I don't associate with people aren't your kind.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He's a cartoon racist.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
I think watching the Democratic Party now makes me rethink how Independence Day...
The movie worked, you know?
Where it's like, people used to argue, like, oh, if there's a world threat, people would finally come together.
No, absolutely not.
The Democratic Party could not have an easier big bad.
dan friesen
Quaid would fucking kill Pullman's character in the real world.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
He'd be like, he is an alien.
dan friesen
Yeah, he'd fly his plane into HQ.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the White House wouldn't even be destroyed by aliens.
Aliens could just show up, look, and then we'd be dead.
That would be it.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's a bummer.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But hey, what are you going to do?
jordan holmes
I mean, that is a good point.
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we've covered a lot of ground so far.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of world events.
And now it's time to touch back on the prescription drug executive order that Trump signed.
jordan holmes
The one that's totally real and is going to super help everybody, super fast all the...
It's a super deal bundle, power bundle.
dan friesen
Yeah, and in this next clip we get to hear RFK Jr. discussing exactly how it's going to help everybody.
It's so super fast and super cool.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And then we get confirmation that Alex is not on Ozempic.
alex jones
So here's RFK Jr. talking about...
jordan holmes
I don't believe that.
alex jones
On prescription drugs, that what you sell them for in other countries, you're going to sell them for that here.
And boy, are they pissed.
Because America is the right whale.
And I'll tell you about the right whale after this clip.
Here it is.
unidentified
Mr. Secretary, Trump says some prices will come down almost immediately.
What is the timetable for these price cuts?
robert f kennedy-jr
Well, there's a series of escalating steps, but you know what?
That will bring them down to European levels.
Right now, we spend, we provide, America provides 75% of the pharmaceutical revenues in the world, and we only have 4.2% of the world's population.
We're paying, and in our country, the list price for Ozenvic is $1,300 per dose.
In London, it's $88.
And Democratic and Republican politicians have been talking about for years, we've got to end these discrepancies.
Nobody has had the courage to do it because of the power of the pharmaceutical lobby on Capitol Hill.
In answer to your question, how soon will this happen?
It depends on how enthusiastically the drug companies cooperate.
There are a series of escalating steps that we will take.
If they don't cooperate.
But we've been meeting with the pharmaceutical companies.
They admit that this is something that should have ended a long time ago.
And I think they're ready to figure out a way to get there.
And they have advantages in this executive order, Stuart.
Because we got rid of the PBMs.
We got rid of the middlemen.
And that's something that they've wanted themselves.
alex jones
Now, Kennedy's been very critical of Ozempic, and it's super dangerous, linked to cancer, heart attacks, attacks for muscles.
It freezes your guts.
I mean, it's horrible.
Basically, it slowly kills you.
But he uses Ozempic as an example, just because people can understand you pay thousands for it, and they pay 80 bucks.
But Ozempic should be banned, and it shows how corrupt the Food and Drug Administration is that it allows crap like that out.
And that's why I get mad at people on the internet when they say I'm on Olympic, not because I mind being criticized.
robert f kennedy-jr
I love it.
alex jones
The more tax, the better.
It just sends more listeners here.
Except people then believe that and go, I'm going to get on it if it made Alex lose weight.
You know what made me lose weight?
Intermittent fat.
dan friesen
So I was pretty on the fence about whether or not Alex got on some kind of weight loss drug, but that clip made me pretty convinced he did.
I can believe that he stopped drinking because his behavior has changed considerably in a way that makes him significantly less interesting.
Sure.
But if he's telling the audience that hard work dropped all that weight, that's bullshit.
I call straight up bullshit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, I call bullshit on RFK's non-answer to that question.
He was supposed to be answering when prices will go down for prescription drugs.
And I guess he said when the drug companies feel like lowering them.
Yeah.
that I'm not going to explain.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll take steps.
dan friesen
It's impossible for me to believe that RFK doesn't understand why there's different prices for drugs here and in the UK.
He knows about the NHS and consumer protections that exist in other countries, but he's pretending not to, so he can complain about the problem while ignoring the cause.
U.S. drug prices are high because the government lets them be high.
The drug companies would still exist if we put these price controls in place, it would just cut into their ridiculous profits, which is what RFK is protecting by doing this bullshit song and dance that he and Trump are doing.
It's not going to help anybody.
Garbage.
jordan holmes
I mean...
Here's...
Okay.
This is...
I feel like this is insulting.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And part of the reason it's insulting is RFK Jr., right?
His views are held...
His identical views are held by tons and tons of people.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Right?
You could have picked any of them to be the health secretary.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's a Kennedy.
jordan holmes
Why did you pick...
The guy who most obviously sounds like the least healthy person in the history of health.
To be the head of the Health and Human Services.
Pick anybody else.
Pick him for a different job.
Don't make me listen to a guy tell me about health who sounds like he's going to die at any moment.
dan friesen
Well, he had some great stories in the essay portion of his application.
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
Pranks he's pulled.
jordan holmes
Pranks he's pulled.
dan friesen
Dead animals.
jordan holmes
There's so many reasons why I feel like it should not even be an argument with somebody who...
If you don't share the same beliefs as me, that's fine.
Just not this guy.
Come on, man!
dan friesen
I agree with you about him because he's a lunatic.
But I always shy away a little bit about voice jokes or critiques of his voice.
jordan holmes
I have no critiques!
unidentified
Get that voice away from me!
Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't like to say he sounds unhealthy.
jordan holmes
He sounds unhealthy!
dan friesen
Kind of does.
jordan holmes
He sounds so unhealthy!
That's the voice of a guy who's dying.
I'm fine with...
Do any job!
Do any job but the job of most health!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think he also said the other day, if I'm not misquoting him, you don't need to take health advice from me.
jordan holmes
That you're...
unidentified
The one guy who I'm supposed to take health advice from.
dan friesen
Also, I think Alex is a little bit hard on Ozempic there.
I mean, it's for diabetes.
It's not just sort of like a plastic surgery type weight loss drug.
I don't know.
I don't think he knows the issues.
Which makes me think that he's not on Ozempic.
Maybe it's another one.
jordan holmes
There's more than one.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex earlier was yelling about Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, and he returns to this, and he's quite mad.
He gets himself worked up into a little bit of a scream about them.
alex jones
Until the 60s and 70s, it was either like goat herders, Stone Age stuff, but some of the oldest civilizations in other areas on the coastlines...
It was opulent.
dan friesen
He's talking about Syria.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Women in bikinis and waiters with champagne, okay?
The West went in and funded the radical cavemen Muslims and then sent them in to overthrow all of these stable Muslim countries.
I mean, look at the Arab Spring.
Obama overthrowing a bunch of our allies, overthrowing the Egyptian government and putting in Islamists that blew up a couple thousand churches.
And again, Israel and Turkey.
Just did it to Syria.
So I don't want to hear it.
Oh, I speak for the Christians and Jews of America, as I played last hour.
I'm Mark Levin, and we don't stand with Al-Qaeda.
Well, the hell you don't.
Your boss, Netanyahu, literally runs it.
He's the last standing neocon with any power.
So I don't want to hear it.
Stop talking to me like I'm culturally and historically a military illiterate.
I'm not!
jordan holmes
Mark!
alex jones
And Trump is actually pro-Israel, and he understands that Iran is going to blow it off the map, and then Israel's going to blow them off the map, and then Pakistan and India are going to have a nuclear war!
unidentified
And all the war games are all dead, you dumb son of a bitch!
alex jones
What the fuck's your problem?
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You fucking megalomaniac fuckheads!
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And that's what Trump's told Netanyahu a little nicer than that, but not much more, I was told.
I mean, we're rational, sane men.
dan friesen
Yes, you are.
Rational, sane men.
jordan holmes
Ah, we're fucked.
dan friesen
So what I just did there was a little monologue I prepared from the recording of Trump yelling at Netanyahu.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
I call this play, this one-act play, the most rational, the most sane, the most men.
dan friesen
We are normal men who are rational and sane.
So he's talking a lot about...
Netanyahu.
He's talking about Mark Levin.
He's talking about Ben Shapiro.
jordan holmes
Seems like there's a...
dan friesen
Yeah, man, started to notice a little something.
jordan holmes
Did you notice a little something?
Like a thread between the...
Yeah, I mean, it's some sort of thing that's...
It could be anything.
It could be far-right beliefs.
dan friesen
Sure, there's that.
There's that.
There's also support of the state of Israel.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
That is definitely true.
There are also all Jewish people.
jordan holmes
There is definitely that.
dan friesen
And I started to notice that all of the people that Alex was talking about, Be they on the left or the right.
He seems to only be talking about Jewish people.
jordan holmes
Very specific.
alex jones
So, Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and Benjamin Netanyahu and all of them can fly a kite as far as I'm concerned.
They can jump in the lake, piss up a rope.
And then you got the dialectic with the Rothschilds over there and the left and Soros funding all the radical Muslims and bringing them here and the universe and all.
It's just all disgusting.
And our center of the universe should not be the Jews and Muslims in their multi-thousand-year war with each other.
Doesn't mean we ignore the Middle East.
We go over there and do deals to make it prosperous.
dan friesen
Yeah, let's profit off it.
So I think that Alex is unable to disentangle criticisms of the state of Israel and Judaism, Jewish people.
It's very clear.
Yep.
So I don't trust his ability to navigate this.
It's pundit medium difficulty or hard.
You can't handle it.
jordan holmes
No, no.
The combination of what?
Genetic ancestry, ideology, religion, and nationalism.
And you use a similar word for all four of those.
And any four maybe...
Accurate at any given point in time.
That's crazy.
dan friesen
A lot of, you know, I at times and in some instances don't trust myself to fully understand in a competent way to discuss some of these issues.
And I certainly don't trust Alex.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here because Alex decides to take some calls.
And they're mostly dumb.
One of them is saying that Trump, we should keep an eye on him because he might be the globalists.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is, he's like, oh, I don't even understand what you're saying.
He feigns confusion in order to not engage with the guy's point.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But we got this one guy, and he's not as good as the guy who is, hey, it's morning time in China.
He's not as good as that guy.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he does reach that energy for a second.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Miguel in Texas, thanks for holding her on the air.
Welcome.
unidentified
What up, Alex?
I just want to say Trump is doing a fantastic job.
jordan holmes
The economy's on fire.
unidentified
Get involved, donate, use your phones, record everything around you.
The PSYOP is real.
It's family, friends that are, you know, controlled by by by.
That's right.
alex jones
We gotta get our friends and families out of the trance.
And it's never been easier.
unidentified
And the Shilajit, I just want to promote that.
I'll use that.
jordan holmes
That is the real deal.
unidentified
The real deal.
jordan holmes
Donate.
alex jones
What did the Shilogy do for you?
jordan holmes
Uh, libido boost.
unidentified
Hardcore.
alex jones
Well, remember, we only sell stuff that's good for you and works really well.
Because we only take what, we only sell what we take, and again, we want people to be happy, but yeah, it would take literally hours to get into how great Shilogy is, but it's not all equal.
This is the cleanest, because some of it can be bad.
From where it's gotten, it can have heavy metals.
It says none of it's all tested the best.
But yeah, the biggest thing is, the biggest thing people notice is it's a peptide, basically, similar to testosterone.
And that's one of the things it does that people notice first.
But yeah, it's good for everything, but women can take it too.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
I appreciate the time.
jordan holmes
I have to go.
dan friesen
I have to go.
jordan holmes
I like that guy.
I like that guy.
That guy's great.
dan friesen
I think there's something just hilarious about you're calling into a show and you're like, I gotta go.
jordan holmes
I just wanted to let everybody know they should take this shit.
Why?
I fuck good now.
And now that I've said that, I have to go.
dan friesen
I take this shilajit and it gives me a boner.
I gotta go.
jordan holmes
I gotta go.
I just did my civic fucking duty.
And let people know, you got a low T, you get a big D. That's what I'm talking about.
dan friesen
The first...
Bit of his call, and presumably the reason that he called in was to say that everybody needs to record everything because the psyop's real.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We gotta get our family members and loved ones out of the TV trance.
jordan holmes
You would assume that.
dan friesen
So he gets that done, and then tries to plug a product, and Alex is much more interested in that.
unidentified
Oh, hell yeah.
dan friesen
And then they get into boner territory, and the guy, I gotta go.
jordan holmes
Just a reminder, ladies, you can take it too.
I gotta go.
dan friesen
I got to go.
jordan holmes
I have to go fuck right now.
Your pills have gone out of control.
I can't even be on the phone for this length of time without having to go fuck.
dan friesen
Alex, my boner is hanging up the phone.
The Shilajit is kicking in.
Do you know what chill-a-jeet is?
jordan holmes
No.
I heard chill-a-jeet.
I heard chill-a-jeet.
I heard shill-a-jeet, which I thought was like a...
When I heard shill-a-jeet, I was like, maybe this is a documentary series about shills.
No.
What is it?
It's shill-a-jeet?
dan friesen
I feel like I don't want to tell you now.
jordan holmes
Chill-a-jeet?
dan friesen
It definitely took a couple tries spelling it in Google when I first heard the commercials for it.
It's like a mineral that grows on rocks and mountaintops, usually in crevices.
And there's no evidence that it does anything.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
So why does this guy want to fuck so much now?
dan friesen
Placebo effect?
jordan holmes
I feel like that's the easiest one for placebo effect, too.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You could just tell yourself.
dan friesen
I think, you know, if there's a psychosomatic block in, like, anxiety or something like that, then there's a chance that a placebo effect could happen.
But, like, if there's a blood flow issue or something, I don't know if you're gonna...
I don't know if placebo's gonna get you around that.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
unidentified
But, try the shilajit!
jordan holmes
Shilajit!
Shilajit!
dan friesen
I feel like I want to make you try and spell it.
jordan holmes
I can't...
Shilajit...
C-H...
C-H-I-L-E-G-I-T.
dan friesen
Okay, give me that from the top.
jordan holmes
C-H-I-L-E-G-I-T.
dan friesen
Way off.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Let me tell you, you started wrong.
jordan holmes
Okay, S-I.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
No.
S-H?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'll give you that much.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Shilajit.
No, I'm out.
I'm out.
dan friesen
S-H-I-L-A.
J-I-T.
jordan holmes
That's how you...
Oh, fuck me.
dan friesen
Shilajit.
jordan holmes
Never would have seen that coming.
dan friesen
No.
Nope.
I think it should be a C. That's my controversial take for the day.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
I was thinking an S would be inappropriate for this.
This is a C...
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't feel right.
So, we have had quite an experience here on this episode.
Alex has...
Gotten to the bottom of the Las Vegas shooting and how it led to the overthrow and murder of most of the Saudi aristocracy.
jordan holmes
Man, that's crazy.
dan friesen
We have learned that Trump...
Well, actually, I don't know if we've learned that Trump supports the new president of Syria.
Alex is mad about it.
jordan holmes
Right.
We learned that outside of reality.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex hasn't chimed in on that so much.
jordan holmes
I wonder...
Okay, so...
You've got thousands of members of the royal family.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
As pointed out.
Then you've got two militaries.
Getting their hands dirty, murdering all of them.
dan friesen
I think, yeah, I think the U.S. military, presumably a small force, the special Trump force, teamed up with the Saudi military who had turned on the royal family in coup style.
jordan holmes
See, I feel like it is, I feel like that's, you're gonna get information out of somebody.
Somebody's gonna leak out of that.
Out of that group.
You can't trust them.
Not least of which, you've got Saudi military members who have already committed treason by just doing this.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
They're treasonous.
dan friesen
It's true.
There's a lot of loose ends.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of loose ends.
jordan holmes
Too many loose ends.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Too many.
dan friesen
But I'm interested to see how Alex copes.
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think some of his narratives are in trouble.
But you can definitely...
I think our first episode, it was time to pray.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because they were investigating Netanyahu.
And Netanyahu is the canary in the coal mine.
jordan holmes
He is the canary in the coal mine.
dan friesen
Because once they start investigating him, you know that shit's going down.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
And here we are.
Alex has really gotten the signal that it's okay to beat up on Netanyahu now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
In a sense, things did start going down.
Very low.
Things went a very low direction.
dan friesen
You know, Alex was not right, but it was time to pray.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's one of those clips that I would be fine with taking out of context for any natural disaster.
Alex Jones was right, but it was just, it's time to pray.
Yeah, well, that's fair.
dan friesen
It's always time to pray.
jordan holmes
It's always time to pray.
dan friesen
So, we will be back, and I'm particularly actually kind of excited to see...
How Alex tries to navigate the Syria situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think he's got a real thin road he can walk down, and I'm sure he's going to fall off it.
So, we'll see.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo, yeah!
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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