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May 23, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1040: May 18, 2025

Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dissect Knowledge Fight’s May 18, 2025 episode where Alex Jones peddles unproven claims: Biden’s "puppet" status via a shadowy council (including Obama, who allegedly used an auto-pen), suspicious prostate cancer timing, and exaggerated cognitive decline tied to debunked Secret Service reports. Jones mislabels James O’Keefe’s June 2024 undercover video as "Project Veritas," mocking his own conspiracy tactics—like the vague "Pelican" source—while right-wing peers half-heartedly embrace his predictions. Their critique frames Jones as a failed "Palpatine," trading in weak analogies and incremental outrage instead of bold, decisive moves, exposing his lack of real influence despite self-styled bravado. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
infowars 18:03
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dan friesen
31:45
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jordan holmes
19:14
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unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish ten color of a huge fan.
I love your room.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship with the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dean.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is I'm going back to Expedition 33.
dan friesen
Okay, hey.
jordan holmes
And I've got a very specific bright spot.
I beat the game and I'm playing the new New Game Plus.
alex jones
Nouveau Juler.
jordan holmes
And I've gotten good at the parry, which is the hardest thing in the game to do.
dan friesen
It's a very tight timer.
jordan holmes
The timing is rough, and then the like sometimes the combos are like six or seven things in a row.
Like, it's very difficult.
dan friesen
And you've got to hit them over, like, if it's six hits, you've got to hit all six of them.
jordan holmes
And it's not in like a bop, bop, ba.
It's like a syncopated bop kind of thing.
And it messes with your vibe.
But once you get it really down, then you start to notice that they have this pause.
They have this perfect pause, right?
Where the counter happens and you go, uh, ah, like that.
There's that tiny little, and I'm trying to get it.
dan friesen
They're trying to get you to jump off sides.
jordan holmes
I realize that it's like a it's like the exact amount of time necessary to get a one-liner in from an action movie.
When you perform the counter, there's like, ah, now it's dog time.
Kabam!
And then it's the end of the bat.
It's perfect.
dan friesen
So you started doing that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is so satisfying.
That just little bit of like that way.
Oh, this motherfucker.
unidentified
BAAA!
jordan holmes
It's great.
It's just perfect.
dan friesen
Do you say it to your dogs?
jordan holmes
Oh, man, whenever it's...
dan friesen
Deliver the line to the dog.
I'm alone.
jordan holmes
I'm alone in my own home and nobody can judge me there.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's what I say.
dan friesen
It's nice to be able to be a little bit cocky in a video game context.
jordan holmes
It feels way too good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It feels way too good.
dan friesen
I think this is why the chatting and talking shit with people playing remotely caught on because it does feel good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, I think when you get to burn kids in another country or whatever, it's great.
After you headshot them in Fortnite or whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's perfect.
No, if you've ever hit a home run, like when you the feeling of hitting a home run and really just hitting the barrel onto the ball, you don't feel the bat.
You don't feel it.
It's the one time when you're playing baseball where you don't feel yourself swing and you sit there and you go, that was fucking great.
And then you start triing.
dan friesen
But it's great.
It's also poor form to then say something shitty.
Because then the picture is going to be you the next time you're in the play.
jordan holmes
It is usually, but there are times.
There's a time for a bat flip and there's a time for, you know.
dan friesen
I famously told my buddy Nikki Gifts that if I ever got a home run, I would crab walk the bases.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And he has explained to me that I would get the shit.
jordan holmes
You'd be dead.
You'd be dead in a heartbeat.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
So my stories wrapped up last night.
I watched the survivor finale live.
And because of that, I had to watch a bunch more commercials than I usually do when I watch the rebroadcasts with commercials.
And I saw one for Phoenix University online.
You know, that's really college.
jordan holmes
It's still going.
dan friesen
It is.
And it was a riff on the tortoise and the hare, right?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so the metaphor is that the hare won.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or no, I'm sorry, the tortoise.
jordan holmes
The tortoise won.
Yes.
dan friesen
And because of that, the world learned the wrong message, which is that everything should be slow.
So then the hare gets into college.
He's trying to get into college.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And all these hairs are so, these tortoises are so slow.
They're like, you've got to take a four-year college degree.
unidentified
You've got to.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I like this.
I like this.
dan friesen
And the hare is like, I got to go quicker.
I got to get down to the business of coding an app.
jordan holmes
I like this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so Phoenix University offers the ability for the hare to go fast.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And get down to what he wants to do with his career.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I felt like this was missing the point of the tortoise and hare story.
jordan holmes
Makes me worry about the college.
dan friesen
I felt like it was almost a satire of online quick diploma college.
jordan holmes
It is legitimately like watching like, oh, Icarus, you're flying too close.
No, you keep flying.
Get up there, buddy.
You can make it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was watching it, and I felt like I had made it up in my mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I watched it again later to make sure that I hadn't fully missed it.
I don't think I did.
It was wild.
Advertising is crazy business.
jordan holmes
That is an interesting lean into opening Pandora's box.
It wasn't a bad decision.
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everything's great now.
How about that?
dan friesen
Slow and steady does not win the race.
jordan holmes
Screw your race.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Fuck it.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about May 18th, 2025.
That's Sunday.
Okay.
And Biden got cancer.
jordan holmes
Yes, he did.
dan friesen
Yep.
So that's where we're at.
Biden got prostate cancer that was announced.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And so we're going to hear about Alex's feelings.
jordan holmes
Why do we need to have feelings about this?
dan friesen
I think it's all right to have some human feelings.
Okay, okay.
But yeah, I think it's, you know, he's got cancer.
It's sad.
Whatever.
Alex is very sensitive, and it'll be thrilling to hear the humanity drip forth.
But before we get to that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, shout out to Connor, whose partner, Jenna, wants to wish her favorite policy wonk a wonderfully happy birthday and remind him that Ivermectin might cure his IBS.
Thank you so much.
You're an awesome wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
You're lucky I saw that I there.
I almost said cure his BS.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
dan friesen
Next, ouch.
I just got bit by a bumblebee.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Isaac, this is Rupert reminding you to fix your fucking bike already.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we have a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to the Mac Attack is back, Jack.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home, Kimon, and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And that was appropriate because the Mac Attack is back.
unidentified
Jack.
dan friesen
Oh.
That's a Bidenism.
No more malaria, Jack.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
And so, obviously, that is the top story here on this Sunday.
And so Alex covers it by discussing how it's proven that Biden stole 2020.
Oh, okay.
And now he's getting cancer.
jordan holmes
Wait, isn't that suspicious?
No, Isn't it a specific?
dan friesen
It's connected.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Sunday, May 18th, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones.
And right as it all officially comes out that Joe Biden was always a puppet, and there was this council that really ran things, and that Obama was the head of it, and that they signed 99% plus of the bills and orders with the auto pin.
He gets aggressive cancer, prostate cancer.
And you've got all the Jake Tappers writing their books about how he was a vegetable.
But, oh, did Jake Tapper attack anybody that exposed that?
But we didn't need the corporate media to admit all this.
I knew it before Biden ran and got massively attacked.
But Biden was an illegitimate president.
Biden was always a puppet.
They didn't just steal the 2020 election.
They had a committee that reported back to Barack Obama.
And now James O'Keefe got huge undercover footage of the former deputy chief of staff admitting that Biden was a near vegetable and that who really ran the White House.
We have that video and audio coming up.
dan friesen
So I was interested in the way that Alex was presenting this because he's saying that now that it's all coming out that the 2020 election was stolen and that there's this council that's puppet mastering Biden.
I was like, what is this coming out?
jordan holmes
Yeah, where did this come out?
dan friesen
It's this James O'Keefe video that he mentions there at the end.
And so that's exciting.
That's confirming everything.
And it's so convenient that he got this cancer.
jordan holmes
I feel like we need to, like, okay, so I've watched this happen in movies.
You know, they do the facial recognition thing where somebody's just walking through cameras and then and then it's like we got a match.
It's this guy's face.
I don't understand how you can have any part of politics and not have one of those for like James O'Keefe's face.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you should never be anywhere near this guy.
dan friesen
Well, one of the problems is he's a master of disguise.
jordan holmes
I strongly doubt that.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
But he dressed up like a pimp.
You could never tell.
jordan holmes
At that time, he did look like James O'Keefe wasn't wearing the clothes of a pimp.
dan friesen
That's true.
Yeah.
I think, well, here's the thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
With James O'Keefe, he doesn't do the stings.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, you don't know who these people are.
They try to not publicize who their sting agents are.
jordan holmes
So he's got a team of people.
Do you think he has a surveillance van?
dan friesen
I hope so.
jordan holmes
They've got to have a van.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If not, it's not for lack of trying.
Yeah, you're.
It's definitely part of the pageantry that you're going to be doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're leaving shit on the table.
Yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
Yo, he usually, these videos, they're someone oftentimes on a dating app, they'll end up connecting with somebody who's the Project Veritas or James O'Keefe plant.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They record the stuff, and then James O'Keefe will show up later and be like, would you like to comment on this?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
Wow.
dan friesen
Oftentimes, that's his face-to-face involvement, probably because people would recognize him.
jordan holmes
So he does to catch a predator.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, sort of.
jordan holmes
All right.
But to be like bad.
dan friesen
Except generally, these people haven't committed crimes.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Just to lie to a maybe predator.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Biden's got this cancer.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And so the timing, Jordan.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why the timing is not good.
dan friesen
The timing is perfect.
jordan holmes
For what?
dan friesen
For getting rid of the Patsy.
jordan holmes
Listen, life was going to take care of that for us at any time anyway.
dan friesen
So we've got this council of people who are controlling Biden.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And now they're all off the hook.
Because everything is going to get blamed on Biden when he dies from this prostate cancer.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's a perfect setup by the globalists.
alex jones
And now magically, so he can't be questioned about it.
So there's no record of it.
So they can just say, oh, it was really Biden did it all.
He'll be dead very, very soon.
You really think he just suddenly got cancer and is going to be dead?
It's like the army that took out the other Pat Seely, Harvey Oswald with the killing of JFK in 63, got cancer and died a week later.
You know, one of those 24-hour cancers.
Unbelievable.
dan friesen
Just not believable.
jordan holmes
Man, my aunt went to the hospital and then two weeks later was gone.
So yeah, I know how this kind of shit works.
dan friesen
Yeah.
In the real world, it can happen.
jordan holmes
Yep, that's how it, yep.
dan friesen
A lot of people have had to deal with their realities changing fast.
Yep.
Because of, you know, sometimes it's a lack of detection and sometimes there's nothing you could have done, you know?
And who's to say, like, at the point that we're recording this, I have no idea how long people close to Biden might have known something.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know, and it doesn't really, the cancer part, I don't really, like, I'm not really too interested in getting to the bottom of who knew what was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's entirely plausible that the story, as we understand it, which is like pretty close to when this news came out, was when they found the diagnosis.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
There's nothing really suspicious about this unless you need to connect dots.
jordan holmes
I found zero suspicion.
I don't know if everybody is like slightly avoiding this to some extent, but he's a very old man.
Sure.
He's a very old.
He's an old man.
He's very, very old.
don't think people are avoiding that like but he's very he's like you you should be more surprised he didn't have cancer right Like, that's where we're at.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
The risk goes up as you go up.
jordan holmes
I was like, yeah, he's old.
He's got cancer.
Yes.
Agreed.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's just the timing of it is off.
alex jones
I don't think so.
dan friesen
Well, you don't have the kind of brain that Alex does.
Fair enough.
By that, I mean you're not smart like Alex is.
jordan holmes
That's also fair.
dan friesen
Being able to see the truth.
So Alex has been talking to like top-level people in the Trump administration.
alex jones
Unbelievable.
And I've been talking to, I'll just leave it at that high-level folks in the government today, several of them.
Very interesting about what's going on at the DOJ and the rest of it.
I'm going to think about the information I've got for a little while.
I may break it tonight.
Definitely break it in the next few days.
But when you learn stuff like this, it's very important.
You've got to cogitate on it and do your own research.
And then I come up with my synthesis for you.
We obviously have more on the 8647 Comey being brought into questioning by the Secret Service and what's happening on that front, the attempts of the corporate media to spin it.
We have Trump posting on TrueSocial the Clinton body count.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, right now, we're in a situation where information is coming out that some people in the media knew things involving Biden's declining condition who failed to cover what they knew properly because they believed that to be in their best interests.
As Biden's presidency went on and the 2024 campaign began, a lot of people had a lot of subjective takes on Biden's status.
I don't want to get too bogged down in that kind of conversation because I think that people who had no concrete information at all had equally valid perspectives.
At the time, it was sensible to say that you had concerns about Biden's seeming decline, and it would also be fine to hold the position that publicly available information wasn't really the full picture, and it was hard to make that assessment.
Sure.
I'm not interested in those differences because the other difference is what matters.
There were people who had access to more information, which could have helped people get a fuller picture who chose not to provide that information.
That strategic withholding of information is a problem, and it's a valid point of criticism for the mainstream media to receive at this point.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The reason I bring all this up is because Alex is doing the exact same thing as the worst case scenario of the mainstream media's actions would have been in that case.
He supposedly has some bombshell information from the highest levels of the Trump administration, and instead of reporting what he knows, he has to cogitate for a while to come up with a synthesis.
All that means is that he's trying to come up with a spin and a good way to sell a story to the audience.
Alex is capable of complaining about the mainstream media engaging in behavior that is definitely unethical, and there appears to be some value in that, but there's really not.
His criticism appears to be about their behavior, but it can't actually afford to be about the behavior because he does that shit all the time.
Yeah.
So, this is an interesting moment where there's a superficial criticism that Alex has that he can't really take deeper without cutting off his own foot.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, it is in a way like the reverse canary.
I don't know how I would describe it, but the way to look at it would be like, you know, the mainstream media is fucked up because they did the same thing.
They're doing the same thing.
You see, they're doing the same thing right now.
Like, that's what Alex is good for.
Whatever the two wheels line up and the lines are right there, you go, oh, see, now you fucked up.
You did the thing he did.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's also where Alex is like at his most impotent.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, because it's like, fuck.
jordan holmes
They cancel each other out with their uselessness.
dan friesen
Also, fantastic that we're starting off the show with two stories about social media posts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Did you see that 8647 thing?
jordan holmes
I did not.
What does that mean?
dan friesen
So James Comey apparently posted a picture of some seashells on a beach that had 8647.
You know, like 86 the ribs means they're out.
jordan holmes
Right, yeah.
So get rid of the 47th president.
I assume that's Trump.
dan friesen
It's a hit.
jordan holmes
86.
dan friesen
Putting out an assassination hit.
jordan holmes
No, that's that 187?
dan friesen
No, that's on a cop.
jordan holmes
Oh, right.
Right.
dan friesen
No, 86, you got to.
jordan holmes
Isn't that like a restaurant that I thought 86 was like a restaurant thing where you're just like, hey, 86 the carrots, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, we're out of carrots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Take it off the menu because we're out of carrots.
jordan holmes
It's like totally a normal.
It's not a murder thing.
dan friesen
From my experience in the service industry, it is not a murder thing.
jordan holmes
Nobody's murdered carrots.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Okay.
But it is with Comey.
jordan holmes
Oh, it is a with Comey thing for Alex, yeah.
Why is Komey posted this?
What's Kobe up to?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He's a weird guy.
jordan holmes
Let it go, man.
Go away.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
I'm not sure I particularly care about seashells that he's posting on his Instagram, but yeah, it's a big deal.
jordan holmes
That feels like bad memoir sales.
That's what the seashells saying 8647 say to me.
Let's I want to murder a guy.
dan friesen
Boring retirement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I think that, you know, it feels the Alex's response to this and a lot of the right-wing media's response to this feels a lot like when Musk was like, they published my murder coordination.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's like that.
It's like, come on, guys.
jordan holmes
Guys, let's, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex just kind of goes away a little bit.
I noticed that there's a bit of filler going on.
There's a video that he plays that I thought was kind of interesting.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We are the number one hated and attacked media organization in the world by every evil, disgusting, sickening organization on the face of the planet.
And I'm going to say it: if you're going to go, go as big as you can.
That's why John Hancock literally saw people signing their names, Little Bitty, and people he knew signing them.
You really couldn't tell who they were.
And I get it.
Every person signing that was signing their potential death warrant.
He got up there and went boom.
And he said, if I'm going to have the king coming after me, I want him to come after me, number one.
That's a pretty large signature, Johnny.
Yeah, and I'm going to risk my life fighting tyranny.
Anybody's ever been in fights?
You're not looking for fights, but you've been in a few.
You learn, you hesitate when somebody's trying to beat the hell out of you.
But you just decide to beat the living hell out of them and stop worrying about who's winning.
And you're going to win almost every time unless you're fighting Mike Tyson.
I know there's people knocking you upside the head really hard and like, sit back and look at what it did.
Or somebody will hit you in the side of the head with a baseball bat and they'll kind of sit back and watch and see what it did.
I'm like a Terminator.
You're about to find out.
unidentified
I'll suck that bat up your ass and turn you into a popsicle.
alex jones
So that's what's going on here.
And I, nothing.
Because we're drawing their fire.
We've exposed them.
We've drawn them out of their rat holes to do all of this.
The Soros scum and the Soros DA and just all of them.
They're filth.
They're disgusting tyrants.
Just like judges in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
They're disgusting.
And it's like we're in the dark and they got night vision.
We're in a pitch black arena with no light and they've got their illuminators on and they can see us and we can't see them.
Well, guess what?
I walked over with my listeners collectively and pulled the switch and turned the lights on.
dan friesen
What's the point of this?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
This is a thing that he edited out from regular.
dan friesen
I imagine Chase did.
jordan holmes
He wanted to keep this particular thing.
dan friesen
I turned on the lights.
For their illuminators.
jordan holmes
To what end does this.
dan friesen
Well, I was thinking about it because that is exactly what I was wrestling with.
Like, what is the point?
jordan holmes
What is this?
dan friesen
This is like two minutes long so far.
It goes on longer.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
And I realized it's a promo.
It's a wrestling promo.
Right.
That's the purpose that it serves.
He's telling the globalists, I'll meet you at the Coliseum on Sunday.
Tickets still available.
jordan holmes
Right, but it feels like there's a, like, promos have like a, I mean, there's a certain, there's a storytelling aspect to promos, you know?
Like, we are here for this reason to accomplish this thing.
This feels like rambling.
This feels like regular rambling.
Regular rambling.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
It's not a good promo.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
It's okay.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think it's in the genre of, but he's not selling a pay-per-view.
He's selling supplements.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't get to an ad, but it's to get you rooting for him in his eternal fight against the globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because that stuff about fighting and how, like, you know, most people will punch you and then they'll look back at their work.
Like, I could see that from a wrestler.
Sure.
Being like, you might have punched me, but I'm going to come back every time.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's just what this is.
jordan holmes
I'm anticipating what it's like to get into a fight with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just.
I mean, I suppose it's more, I feel like, obviously, Chase has to have cut it out, but it feels like B-roll to me.
It feels like this is the, he could do this in his sleep.
This doesn't mean anything.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
This is like just a pattern.
This is just what he does.
dan friesen
Yes.
But also what Chase has cut out is the part where these usually go to an ad.
jordan holmes
Right.
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, you know, this is the kind of stuff that he's saying.
alex jones
This is why you need to support the Ed Fawcett.
jordan holmes
I assumed it goes to an end.
That's crazy.
dan friesen
It is.
It goes to instead rambling about how great Trump is.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
Their attacks on Trump, their law fair, all the criminal activity.
How'd that work out for him?
They were dumb enough to brag.
Remember, everywhere.
It'll be over for Trump when this mugshot comes out in Georgia.
We're finally getting it.
Every channel, remember?
It's the end, the mug shot, the mug shot, the mug shot.
And then Trump nails it with a beyond clinic wood, badass, American eagle gaze of total defiance that everybody looks at and knows deep down that's the alpha male.
That's the badass.
That's the defiant real person.
You can't fake that look.
And then when they shot him, he got even more of that look, except the lips pulled down and the teeth bared and the eyes bugging out.
Yes.
Yes, we get to see who's really who at times like this, don't we?
And now the bad guys are gonna find out who's really who, aren't you?
Because the veneer of civilization is burning off.
And all the posers and all the thugs and all the boys who thought they had this country on its knees and cowed are now just beginning to understand that they have awoken the terrible giant.
dan friesen
And this weekend, right, I'm going to one, two, three, I'm going to take your intercontinental title.
jordan holmes
It feels, it feels like, okay.
I'm surprised that this had never really occurred to me.
Maybe I've thought about this before, but this is genuinely a kind of novel thought to me.
Like, we all know like St. Crispin's Day speeches.
We know like the Patton speech.
We know these inspiring speeches, but we've never heard one like delivered by Sauron to the orcs, you know, where it's like, hey, man, we're just going to go fucking murder these innocent people.
You will find out if you murder innocent people.
You know, and it's like, they must need those.
They must want a nice little.
That feels like what Sauron would say to get the orcs ready to start murdering people, you know?
Ah, right?
dan friesen
Like, the veneer of civilization has burned.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
alex jones
We find out who people really are at the.
jordan holmes
Why are you doing that voice?
This is an incongruous voice.
dan friesen
If you're trying to inspire me, it's making me unsettled.
jordan holmes
Right.
But if I'm an orc or a goblin, I've got to be like, oh, he's speaking my language.
Those are the tones that I find comforting.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I want to be clear.
I find it unsettling, but also not scary.
alex jones
No, not scary at all.
jordan holmes
No, not scary at all.
dan friesen
I think also, like, he's talking about the posers and like he should be burying bodies right now.
He shouldn't be on his show doing a wrestling promo.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he's not a poser or a phony, right?
I should be dead.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
He should be clean.
Listen, we're loose ends at the very least.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know.
dan friesen
So this was a long fucking video that was going on for almost no purpose.
Yeah.
And thankfully, Alex comes back, sort of.
alex jones
We're live.
It's Sunday night, May 18th, 2025.
Real leadership, the essence of leadership, is showing people how it's done so that they understand it's the right way and getting them to adopt it.
dan friesen
So this just goes into another wrestling promo that he's done.
Alex showed up to save a date and pretend that it's live and then play another tape of him doing an inspirational speech about how great he is.
jordan holmes
Are we doing dueling promos?
Is he just going to play promos of himself back and forth at each other all the time?
dan friesen
Well, I don't think the globalists get any time to respond.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, he gets to build himself up some more.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
He should have at least one enemy that's willing to do a shoot promo for him.
You know, like, oh, I'm a globalist guy.
I'm going to kill your families.
dan friesen
I think if someone, if people didn't feel like that would really risk their lives, like one of his fans would probably not get the spirit of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Not get the K-fame.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not really enjoy the storytelling and really more be into it.
dan friesen
If I were Alexander Soros, maybe I would do that.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I would send so many fun videos.
Yeah, that would be great.
I'm coming to get you.
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, why would you not be the most fun with it?
dan friesen
These 24-inch pythons.
jordan holmes
So evil.
I have medbed technology behind me.
dan friesen
You think we're all neck beats?
Look at this swole body.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
I use superpowered technology.
dan friesen
I'm masculine too.
unidentified
My supplements are more supplemental.
jordan holmes
That would be great.
dan friesen
So earlier in the episode, we heard about how Obama and a council and all that are controlling Biden.
jordan holmes
Council of the 12?
dan friesen
Numbers are iffy.
Okay.
But Alex talks a little bit more about this.
alex jones
And Roger Stone predicted before the 2020 election was stolen exactly how this was all going to be done and who would run what, because he knows who these politicos are.
And remember, he didn't pull up mainstream news headlines.
Barack Obama had his alternate White House a mile and a half away, a whole compound with all these hundreds and hundreds of people coming and going and dozens and dozens of staff working around the clock, coordinating all of this, and that the main committee chairman, they even had a committee, was Barack Obama.
So we had like a Pulit Bureau or a literal oligarchy running the nation.
And of course, you famously have Speaker of the House a year and a half ago when he first came in, Johnson, for months, trying to get a meeting with Biden when Biden had banned the sale of U.S. natural gas.
He finally gets a meeting with him, but they wouldn't leave the room.
He asked Biden to kick him out.
He kicked him out and said, hey, here's your order banning the sale of liquid natural gas from the U.S. anywhere in the world.
He said, I didn't do that.
No such thing.
I signed an order.
I heard about studying natural gas.
They said, no, let me take you to a computer.
Call your staff in.
They came in.
They had a meeting.
Oh, my God.
The next day, he signed an order himself reversing it.
So this is beyond a scandal.
This is massive treason.
And the corporate media is trying to spit it by making it about, oh, the cover-up by the Democrats.
Oh, who knew he was a vegetable?
You could see him on TV.
He had serious dementia.
Didn't know who he was half the time, literally falling down constantly.
So they spin the story and they turn it into that instead of the issue that they knew and that they had an auto pin and they had committee that got together and then implemented it through his chief of staff and others.
And this undercover video also has this high-level official saying it was a free-for-all too.
So these different groups in the committee could get whatever they wanted, but sometimes they put something else from another faction in front of him.
He'd sign that.
So it was just complete insanity.
dan friesen
Sounds insane.
jordan holmes
That does sound insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Biden didn't ban the sale of natural gas.
His Department of Energy put a freeze on giving out new permits to companies who wanted to sell natural gas outside the United States to countries that didn't have a pre-existing free trade agreement with the United States in place.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is lying about this story and also everything about it because the courts ended up blocking this freeze.
And now Trump is in office, so anybody can make money off whatever they want.
jordan holmes
None of this means anything.
dan friesen
Yes.
All of this narrative that Alex is talking about, it's built around a supposedly new video James O'Keefe has put out, which allegedly includes confessions from Biden's chief of staff.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In reality, this is a video from about a year ago featuring somebody who worked in the Small Business Association.
And Alex just thinks it's new because people have been posting it on social media after Biden got diagnosed with killing.
Great, great, great, great.
And so, yeah, the main idea is, I guess, and this isn't even really backed up by James O'Keefe's video, but the idea is that Biden is gone.
He's not even there.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Right?
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's out.
He's just a body.
Yeah.
He's a meat body.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so you have these different factions within this committee, and they all have an auto pen that can sign things and make it look like Biden signed them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so they're all jockeying for.
jordan holmes
So we've got too many Bidens going on.
Too many Bidens in the kitchen.
dan friesen
So many.
jordan holmes
Everybody can sign Biden's signature, but nobody knows who's got the real Biden.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you've got, obviously, Soros.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Obviously, you've got Obama.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
But the real problem that ended up coming up is there's too many factions.
jordan holmes
Too many factions.
dan friesen
And one of them was power hungry.
And that was Dr. Jill Biden.
alex jones
Roger Stone's first.
I'm sorry.
Before Biden even stole the election 2020, that they would end up replacing him ahead of the 2024 election.
And then a year before it happened, he said, it's because Jill is making too many decisions as co-president against the Obama and Hillary and Soros factions that all are interconnected.
That's Soros, Hillary, and the Obama factions.
And they are just absolutely upset that now her fourth faction is dominant.
And at the end, it was Hunter and Biden's brother and Jill around him at all times.
And that more and more you had to go through them, and they were shutting off the Obama wing and others.
And then when Biden was out in Las Vegas, suddenly, ooh, a medical emergency.
His doctor with all the drugs.
Oh, he's at the hospital, but no, he wasn't.
They tried to cover it up, but independent media broke that first.
Then they fly him out to the East Coast to his beach area in Delaware, and he's out there for weeks.
And there's a signature on a piece of paper without even U.S. letterhead, no presidential letterhead, no White House letterhead with his signature on it.
And he resigns as the 2024 candidate, but no one sees him for eight days.
And then he pops up with his hair sticking up, stumbling around, about to get on Air Force One of Lockheed, D.C.
They say, Why did you resign out of the presidential rights?
He said, I didn't do that.
Remember, what?
Yeah, right.
I mean, this was a coup from the beginning.
They stole the 2020 election from Trump, the American people.
And then they inserted a puppet who wouldn't know what was going on so they could commit all these crimes and steal all this money.
And then no one would ever know who to really blame because it's all done by committee.
But they can do it to the chief of staff through the White House lawyers and the people that actually wrote the bills and the orders.
They can all be indicted.
They can all be hauled in.
But that's why Biden pardoned all of them.
And part of that committee.
And on that committee, unofficial committee was Nancy Pelosi, Adam Shifty Schiff representing the neocons was Liz Cheney.
She would get in on the meetings.
dan friesen
It almost makes too much sense.
jordan holmes
It almost makes too much sense.
dan friesen
It was Jill all along.
jordan holmes
I would be fine with condensing this narrative down to it was Jill.
Jill's got it.
Jill was playing the long game the whole time.
dan friesen
She played the Game of Thrones with the auto pen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was Edith Wilsoning our way into Lady Utopia.
I gotcha.
I'm down with that.
I don't know why we need all this other stuff.
dan friesen
Well, I think it's because Alex is trying to make puzzle pieces fit.
Right.
He has like this new little bit of information, which is Biden has cancer.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's trying to go like, all right, where can we go?
If that's true, how does this relate to my other narrative?
He's doing an improv exercise.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And it's fun.
jordan holmes
What can I free associate in this moment?
dan friesen
This man is untethered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's interesting and it's full of high drama, but none of this is going to matter if Alex has a future improv game that he wants to play and any of this contradicts that.
All of this is just shit talk.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Like this is the type of thing that they'll do in like psychology appointments, you know, like free associate.
Let's get a vibe for what.
Or this is a job.
There are two ways of going.
It could be used to evaluate whether you're insane or if you're insane enough, you can turn it into your job.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
And I think some of the purpose that it serves for Alex is that like, all right, no one's going to hold me accountable for this kind of stuff and making all these connections and all this.
But if it's useful for me later, I can play a clip of me saying this stuff and it'll make me look like a prophet.
It's a win-win.
jordan holmes
There would genuinely be a part of me, if I was Alex, that would have hit the moment where I realized no one is ever going to hold me accountable for anything that I say.
And I would have gotten really sad.
I think that would have broken my heart a little bit.
Yeah.
Like sooner, because part of his whole thing is like, somebody's got to take exception sooner or later, right?
Somebody has to.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think when, like, I know that Alex did it in response to Tucker saying he got attacked by a demon.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But when he demanded that people take seriously his poltergeist encounter when he was a kid, I think that is where if I were in his shoes, I would start to feel like there's no challenge.
jordan holmes
There's nothing left.
dan friesen
There's nothing left to conquer.
jordan holmes
I cried salt tears.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There are no more worlds left to conquer, my friends.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So who is that?
Who are you quoting there?
jordan holmes
Well, I believe I was quoting the Darts announcer when Eric Bristow won the Darts World Championship at the age of 25.
dan friesen
That may be.
That may be.
But he was just quoting Star Wars.
jordan holmes
Was it Star Wars?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex has a Star Wars metaphor that he wants to make about Trump's appointments.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I think this one's bad.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And now Trump can't even get in who he wants because the Republicans as the key U.S. attorney in D.C., the guy that'll actually do it, the guy that's not a coward, Ed Martin, and others.
So now they're making him his own new special office with power to go after government weaponization, government racketeering against the people.
And I can tell you, I've heard some very, very exciting things about that, and they're extremely scared.
The president can create a new task force and put a equivalent U.S. attorney over it with the power to go into any FBI office, any DOJ office he wants in the country.
So basically, to use a Star Wars analogy, this is, if Trump's Palpatine, Ed Martin's going to be his Darth Vader to go out and get stuff done.
So pray for him because that's going to be a serious position to be in, getting literally figuratively shot at.
dan friesen
Won't you please pray for Darth Vader?
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
I'm.
dan friesen
Just a tiny little reminder that Darth Vader realizes that Palpatine was using him as an instrument for evil at the end of the story.
Quick little refresher that George Lucas went back and made Vader appear as a Force ghost, but as Anakin, which strongly suggests that his entire life as Vader was a transgression that he absolved himself of because he redeemed himself at the end of the story by helping Luke and turning on Palpatine.
jordan holmes
Also, he didn't have any arms or legs, so it would be very embarrassing to do it as Vader, the Force Ghost.
It would be like you'd have to explain why he was.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, he got his arms and legs cut off.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was that scene.
jordan holmes
There was that pretty big part of his life.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He got left on the lava.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that I think if I heard someone saying that Obama was Palpatine putting in place his Darth Vader.
jordan holmes
Okay, do you mean the bad guy choosing the bad guy?
That guy?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're comparing the bad guy to the bad guy, and you're, mm-hmm.
dan friesen
I think it would raise alarms.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I...
I mean, I guess it's never occurred to me truly to ask from just a purely administrative standpoint, would the bureaucracy prefer Palpatine to the messiness of the Galactic Republican?
dan friesen
If Alex is calling Trump Palpatine, Palpatine does false flags in order to consolidate the government under his own control.
jordan holmes
The most famous false flags of all time done by Palpatine.
dan friesen
When he enlists Darth Vader, part of it is killing the Paduans.
jordan holmes
Yep, man.
And murdering all the younglings.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You got to murder all those younglings.
dan friesen
And creating a robot army.
jordan holmes
Well, that was the, see, the robot army was actually the fake army.
It was the clone army that he was trying to create.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
Sure, but it's all in the mix.
Trump's doing clones or robot armies.
Whatever the case, he was up to some bad stuff.
jordan holmes
He was playing both sides to become the emperor.
dan friesen
And won't you pray for him?
Having to worry about these rebels running around and possibly shooting at him.
jordan holmes
I find, here's what I find fascinating.
I find the impulse to hench so fascinating because I don't understand it.
To me, when I look at a Palpatine or a Vader, I see these people and I say, yes, perhaps they may be able to do something for my career.
They have very much power.
They can elevate me.
They can do a lot of good things for me.
But historically, the people who are close to them are going to get force-choked.
So I'm just not going to be that.
dan friesen
And I think there's a bit of lore about how there can be a master and an apprentice.
jordan holmes
Only two.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're not going to make an exception where you're really important to the two of them.
jordan holmes
And they're both always trying to kill each other for some reason.
dan friesen
And they have magic and crazy swords.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I've seen that Darth Vader guy, he chokes people.
jordan holmes
Sometimes not even for a good reason.
dan friesen
With magic.
jordan holmes
Sometimes not even for a good reason.
dan friesen
Yeah, I agree with you.
I think that the calculation is like, well, I'm going to die.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm going to die if I'm henched.
jordan holmes
I'll just go hang out over here.
I'll be fine.
But then some people are like, well, I got to go hench for that guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, you just want that little bit of appearance of security that the Death Star gives you.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm Darth Vader's henchman.
I'm not some lazy ass henchman out here in the middle of the outpost or nothing.
I'm Darth Vader's henchman.
So you know I'm going to live a very short period of time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Dumb.
dan friesen
Pray for him.
Pray for Darth Vader.
jordan holmes
Pray for the Darth.
dan friesen
So we talk a little bit about that auto pen situation.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, Biden, fake signatures and all this.
jordan holmes
What are we doing with fake signatures?
dan friesen
So the basic idea is that the Trump supporting folks want to have an argument to invalidate everything that Joe Biden did.
Right.
So if they feel like they're incorrect, but they feel like if they can somehow demonstrate that Biden's hand didn't sign the pardons for Hunter and shit, then they're not valid.
So we can lock up Hunter.
jordan holmes
I don't want to live in a world like that.
I don't want to live in a world where even if he did do it, that there's somebody who's like, ah, no, he didn't sign it with his actual hand.
So there's a last-minute.
dan friesen
Well, legal scholars are fairly clear, especially on the issue of pardons, that you don't even have to sign a pardon.
See, that's crazy.
Yeah, this is a moot.
jordan holmes
Let's get out of here.
dan friesen
But yeah, so Alex talks about the auto pen and how that's really the scandal.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And that's why the Democrats are in such complete panic mode and eating their own right now.
But again, they're trying everywhere to spin it that it's a scandal that the Democratic Party covered up that he had dementia.
That's not the story.
We all know that.
We don't need them to tell us that they did that.
Please.
You don't need to tell me when the sun's shining.
I don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
The scandal, the treason, is the auto pin and is the admissions that only two signatures are not that auto pin.
I mean, how many times have you seen Trump sign an executive order?
He signs every damn one of them.
Every presidential order, every memorandum, you see him doing it.
jordan holmes
And that's a waste of time.
alex jones
He loves it with that badass signature.
And, I mean, it is a badass signature.
Not kissing his ass.
It's freaking insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Just got to call it like you see it.
jordan holmes
Darth Vader.
dan friesen
It's a fucking badass signature.
jordan holmes
It's so great.
So you've seen his, it's a red signature.
Like the regular Jedi have blue signatures, which is a loser signature.
Darth Vader's red.
Insane.
dan friesen
The soy boy blue signatures.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Not like the manly badass red signature.
jordan holmes
We're so far past any conception of like gender-based conversation if we're talking about quality of signature.
dan friesen
I do think that some people have cooler signatures than others.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't feel any strong feelings about Trump's signature necessarily, but I have seen some people who have a pretty cool artistic style to help them sign something.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
I think that Alex might be kissing ass a little.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the auto pen, that's the real scandal here, though.
jordan holmes
There's this scandal of scandals.
dan friesen
So there's no legal or ethical problem with using an auto pen to sign documents.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This has been ruled on going back to 2005 in terms of the Department of Justice rules, and it was upheld in federal court in 2024.
This is a line of attack designed to mostly play in the court of public opinion.
These people in Congress get to grandstand about an issue that everyone there should know is not a big deal.
It's not a distraction.
It's jangling keys.
jordan holmes
What do we do?
If I have to sign something with a mouse, does that not count?
dan friesen
Legally, no.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
I guess this all makes sense then.
dan friesen
And, man, we got everything that has ever been stamped.
unidentified
Ouch.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm going to say this.
For all this grandstanding about the strength and beauty of a man's signature, there is nothing less respectable than the almost obscene love they have for the last-minute technicality being the thing that makes.
We don't want to win on the merits of our competition.
Absolutely not.
We want a last-second rule change.
dan friesen
It was a fake pen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Hooray.
Now the fact that we're a bunch of losers doesn't matter anymore.
Like, God damn it, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Win or lose.
dan friesen
But it's, you know, you're just trying to keep people interested.
Brutal.
So Alex talks a little bit about this James O'Keefe video that came out.
And he does, on a couple occasions, call it a Project Veritas video and then has to correct himself because James O'Keefe no longer there.
Right.
And there was one particular time that he caught himself that was really funny.
He's like, this new project that James O'Keefe has done.
I was like, smooth.
jordan holmes
Smooth.
That's how you do it.
There you go.
That's a pro.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he talks about it, and I was able to, because he does, I can nail down specifics.
alex jones
That's a baby scandal, and alone, it's gigantic.
Yes, it's one of the biggest ever, but not compared to this, that we had an ongoing stolen election with a coup of bureaucrats and former presidents and vice presidents and secretaries of states and all of them in committees with Jill Biden deciding on what they were going to do.
Treasures Barack Obama, and that's what comes up.
He was the key.
And Hillary Clinton were running the White House under Joe Biden.
Obama is very involved.
Says Tyler Robinson, special advisor, the administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration, working directly as a deputy to the chief of staff, Ron Clain, who Roger Stone said if they steal the election 2020, it'll be Ron Clain, who works for who?
Barack Obama.
dan friesen
So Tyler Robinson testified about getting caught in this sting operation in June 2024.
He matched with a gal on an app that March, and she recorded him on some dates.
He said, quote, watching the video is embarrassing.
It's painful to see myself trying to impress a date only to learn, along with the rest of the world, that she was lying and tricking me all along.
It's also uncomfortable to admit that in trying to impress my date, I overstated my role with the small business administration, as well as my knowledge of the workings of the White House.
I have no personal knowledge of how decisions are made in the White House or who is involved.
In trying to make my date feel less anxious about the November election, I found myself agreeing with misstatements that she made and making misstatements myself.
The result is a selectively edited, misleading video.
In the video, I agree to and say things that are not accurate and do not reflect the agency's true work and priorities.
I'm personally sorry for any confusion or misunderstanding.
So I think it's very understandable.
This is not some kind of he's trying to impress this person.
It's on a date.
jordan holmes
You're lying.
I don't know.
I can't think of a funnier, like, curb your enthusiasm version of trying to smash lies than this.
Like him reading that should end with da da Like it's crazy.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, the idea that is taken away from the video is that there's this committee that's running everything.
And that comes from him trying to reassure this woman that he's on a date with, who he believes to be like a big Hillary supporter, that Hillary still has influence in the White House.
jordan holmes
She's still going to be good.
Everything's going to be fine.
dan friesen
Her voice is still being heard.
And that's where this committee is built off of.
It's just pathetic.
So, Alex is connecting this to the White House chief of staff because in the video, which came out around this time, so this is like a year old.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
James O'Keefe cold called Jeff Zintz, who is the Biden chief of staff for comment.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And does not get very far with it.
But that's where the staff element coming in.
jordan holmes
So we can put it all together and we've got a nice little, we got a nice little mac and cheese of bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We can exaggerate this guy trying to smash.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's it.
jordan holmes
I mean, man, sometimes, sometimes you really can't just hear a man say, I was trying to smash.
What do you want?
dan friesen
That's the shorter version of what he testified to.
jordan holmes
You know, right?
Like, it's sometimes there's nuance and sometimes things are very simple.
dan friesen
I think this is very simple with the additional element of like, I happen to work in the small business administration and I felt like I could embellish things in order to make this person not feel scared.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's kind of a noble line that goes through the trying to smash.
jordan holmes
I'm going to have the best two truths in a lie and icebreaker stories for the rest of my life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So most of this episode is Alex pretending that this James O'Keefe video is new and then embellishing and lying, much like the guy in the video is doing.
Right.
And so I found it really boring.
But then the end of this clip introduced something that I think is a great mystery.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I've got a lot of other amazing news to cover, but it all ties into the fact that the Biden administration was always a fraud.
They stole the 2020 election.
We know that.
And then even if you want to debate that and live in a fantasy land, we have now undercover video of the deputy chief of staff, one of the main deputies, saying, oh, yeah, it was a committee of Hillary and Obama and Jill and the Soros representative, and they would just decide, and he wasn't the president.
But again, the media, the corporate media, and it seems like all the alternative media, too, that's the real media, has taken the bait.
I mean, the corporate media is just told what to say.
Oh, it's the scandal that they knew he had cognitive problems and covered it up.
It didn't cover up.
They pretended like we were believing their BS when they would gaslight us and say, this is the best Biden ever.
He has a photographic memory.
He's so incredible.
When he was falling down and didn't know who he was, just stumbling around like a complete maniac, falling off bicycles, falling downstairs, falling upstairs, squatting in the middle of the podium like he's taking a dump, crapping himself, then saying, My butt was just wiped.
As I told you years before, when he gets mad, he craps his diapers.
I didn't just pull out of the air.
I got that from the Secret Service and from the police, and I'll leave it at that, who witnessed it as well.
And the Pelican, so it just goes on and on.
Absolutely stunning.
dan friesen
Who's the Pelican?
jordan holmes
What the Pelican?
dan friesen
Who's the Pelican?
jordan holmes
The Pelican what?
The Pelican.
dan friesen
Look, he's listing off his sources.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's talking about the police.
jordan holmes
The police.
dan friesen
Secretary.
jordan holmes
The Secret Service.
The Pelican.
Who's the Pelican?
dan friesen
Is that Rogers' code name?
unidentified
Code-name the Pelican.
jordan holmes
And then he just, then there was just a pause.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
A suspicious pause.
jordan holmes
Yeah, as if he said too much.
I shouldn't have mentioned the Pelican.
Yes.
dan friesen
I'm going to get killed for saying the Pelican.
jordan holmes
I mean, I need to know more about the Pelican.
Right.
dan friesen
That's all I care about.
jordan holmes
I genuinely don't know what that.
I was like, maybe he's trying to say the Pelican brief, but why would you say the Pelican brief?
What is the Pelican brief?
dan friesen
It's a book.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's like a.
dan friesen
It's illegal drama.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it's not.
It's not.
I know that.
dan friesen
It's not about buying crap in his pants.
No.
But the pelican.
jordan holmes
It's got nothing to do with that.
dan friesen
The pelican might have told him.
jordan holmes
The pelican.
The pelican.
dan friesen
His deep throat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The pelican.
The pelican.
Now I can't stop saying it.
unidentified
Me too.
dan friesen
And I just imagine like a pelican in a coat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Unlike other things, it is just literally a pelican that is making regular pelican noises, and Alex listens to it and tells you what it says.
dan friesen
Yeah, the pelican meets Alex in like a parking garage.
Got a fish for you.
I do like, too, though.
I mean, we have the possibility here to branch out.
Like, we have an emotional support pelican.
Right.
And now we have the pelican.
jordan holmes
We have the pelican.
dan friesen
We have a cast of pelicans.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
We've got like the California Raisins, but Pelicans.
Yeah, it's happening.
dan friesen
I think that this is the best direction our show could take, which is just a roster of pelicans.
jordan holmes
And we all know that there's the You Belong to the City Pelican plays the sex.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There is.
Have I blocked this out of my memory?
No.
So yeah, I don't know.
That's all I care about now.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Who's the Pelican?
It's not a bad code name.
I would take the Pelican.
dan friesen
What does it imply about you?
jordan holmes
You can hold a lot of stuff in your mouth.
Okay.
I think as a messenger, you know, like you've got a lot of, you've got a big message, I guess, is what I'm saying.
In your little pelican, you fly from places to places.
You got a big message because you need so much space in your mouth for that message.
dan friesen
My fantasy.
I know this isn't true, and I'm just setting myself up for disappointment.
Steve Pieczenik.
jordan holmes
Sure.
The Pelican.
He would give himself that name.
And he would have a very complex backstory.
It would not be a simple thing like I deliver big messages.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Are there pelicans in Florida?
He lives in Florida.
jordan holmes
There are definitely pelicans in Florida.
dan friesen
Yeah, I could just see him sitting outside his home.
jordan holmes
We've said the word pelican so much, I genuinely don't know what I can't even see a real one anymore.
dan friesen
I can, but it's blending with Steve.
They're becoming one.
They have face swapped.
jordan holmes
Steve is also now turning into, I think, Val Kilber from the jackal for me.
dan friesen
The issue is, like, you know, it's getting too much into the pro wrestling thing.
Alex did a promo at the beginning of this.
Now we have the introduction of a mysterious character who it's got to be revealed to be someone we know, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Otherwise, why would you call him the pelican?
jordan holmes
I mean, unless that was their name.
dan friesen
Did he just misspeak?
jordan holmes
Did he just say the pelican?
That's also possible.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Maybe what he was thinking of was the toucan.
dan friesen
It could have been.
He follows his nose.
jordan holmes
He gets all the clues.
There we go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Maybe he's messed up.
Maybe we don't even have the right code name.
dan friesen
This is a testament to how dumb Alex's show is.
I'm very excited about this.
jordan holmes
Pelican watch?
dan friesen
I wouldn't have cared if he said the pelican if he would have kept talking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's the pause.
jordan holmes
And then the moving on as though the name itself wasn't just spoken and we need an explanation for what the pelican is.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we got one last clip.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Because Alex gets really mad.
Right.
Because he just gave out the name of the pelican.
No, he's mad because no one else gets it like he does.
Nobody gets it like no one's as smart a boy.
alex jones
Well, I don't understand why politically I understand this stuff.
And most other populists who are good people just have blind spots.
Because instead, all I hear is a big, we see, we told you so.
We told you Biden was cognitively degenerating.
We told you he had dementia.
We told you, we told you, we told you, we told you because the media now is reporting.
And oh, look, we're vindicated.
He was a vegetable.
What?
You need them to tell you something?
It's like two months ago, New York Times, 30-something-page article.
The U.S. ran the whole Ukraine war the whole time and was directing it.
I told you that before it happened.
It's on record.
It's not hidden.
Who do you think runs those weapons systems?
Sure as hell ain't the Ukrainians.
Plus, I know people over there before the war started officially.
I got family.
And I've got other friends whose sons are over there.
Special operations fighting the Russians.
I told you that before the war officially started three years and four months ago, three months ago.
So I am just really sick of this.
I mean, my job, my mission is to get everybody to figure out how stuff works so they can't keep running these scams.
My mission is not to sit up here and be one of the only people continually that knows how the damn cow ate the frickin' cabbage.
I am legitimately so angry.
I'm not going to continue the show.
I'm going to go for it.
There's some important clips.
Chase is coming up later.
Can you just come in now?
I'm not coming in here anymore, man.
I can't do this anymore.
Okay.
I just, I just, I just, you know, the public needs to get their head out of their ass.
I mean, even people that think they're awake.
You got your head halfway up your ass.
And I don't even know what to say at this point.
dan friesen
I got to get out of here.
I cannot keep doing this show.
The pelican is going to fucking kill me.
jordan holmes
I mean, yes.
dan friesen
I have to run.
jordan holmes
I agree with everything he said so far.
dan friesen
Chase, take over.
Yeah, so it's been a while since we've seen a little bit of that action.
jordan holmes
It's nice.
It's nice to hear.
dan friesen
It's nice, too, that this exists with sobriety.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That he can still pout and want to quit the show.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
alex jones
I don't ever want to come back here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
Go.
Sure.
Why is there nobody?
I feel like there should be somebody at the studio who's just like sick of it.
It's just like, then do it, man.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Go.
And what makes it worse is that he doesn't leave.
Like, he continues to complain.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And it's just like, no, you should.
You said you were leaving.
Leave.
unidentified
Go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Don't do this.
jordan holmes
Don't go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So if you understand how Alex's place in the propaganda machine works, what he's actually expressing in that clip is a frustration that he never gets to enjoy a win.
Biden having cancer and a recognition that the media didn't cover his condition thoroughly during the lead up to the election, that's an unqualified win for the extreme right-wing media community.
They've engaged in wildly inappropriate reporting themselves and were inaccurate in their own way, but now all of that doesn't matter because they can point to legitimate criticism of the mainstream press.
All of the other right-wing figures kind of get to enjoy this win from folks on Fox News to Tucker, but Alex doesn't get that satisfaction.
His role is beyond this kind of thing.
The stories that he sells the audience are far beyond prostate cancer and whatever's in Jake Tapper's book.
So none of this is actually all that validating for him.
Saying that Biden had dementia and was secretly dying is on the verge of what's acceptable for folks on the more respectable places of right-wing media to dabble in.
It's on the fringes.
So for them, this is an instance of legitimate reporting accidentally supporting their steps onto thinner ice.
This dynamic is not the same for Alex.
If you believe the things that he says on his show, your response to all of this should be a yawn.
Anything short of cancer forcing Biden to reveal his true demon form, wings and all, can't be interesting because everything up to that point is supposed to be proven and documented a hundred times over by this point.
jordan holmes
Wasn't he a walk-in?
dan friesen
Now he's plumping.
jordan holmes
He was plumping.
dan friesen
That's right.
jordan holmes
He was plumping.
dan friesen
10 bags of blood.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
And that's kind of, you know, that dynamic is why this leads to a tantrum.
No one else in the Patriot media gets it.
If you say, we told you so, that's a passive, almost defensive response to this news.
And they need to follow the Roger Stone method of always being on the attack.
Saying, I told you so is satisfying in the moment, but it denies you the opportunity to use this brief window to escalate your attacks and force your opponent to defend themselves against more and more sensational accusations.
They showed information war weakness by admitting that the media didn't cover Biden's condition well.
So you can't even give them a second to catch their breath.
You need to kick them while they're down.
That's what Alex is.
That's how he makes his shit work.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is Alex's posture, and he can't join in all the fun reindeer games that his media sphere is playing right now.
And you can see that it kind of sucks.
Yeah.
He doesn't enjoy that burden that he carries.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, you don't get invited to all the cool parties.
dan friesen
That's the price you pay for getting to talk about being attacked by a poltergeist, and it doesn't ruin your career.
Yep.
jordan holmes
There are trade-offs.
That's just the way it goes.
dan friesen
And that's why this outburst just feels like, come on, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, that's, that's.
You should already be well prepared for this.
You know, it doesn't happen.
It doesn't happen all too often, but it's happened plenty over the past 30 years.
Nobody's ever going to be like, well, now let's do what you say.
That's never going to happen.
You know, it's just not.
dan friesen
But I think that Alex has tasted enough of that that he has an expectation that maybe people will.
I mean, a lot of people who are in powerful positions have taken on more Alex Infowar-y kind of strategies.
And at the same time, Alex's strategies have melded a lot with that Roger Stone model.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so, like, they've come much closer to each other.
So I get why he would be frustrated that everyone doesn't just like, all right, fucking go for blood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, and I honestly kind of think he's probably right.
dan friesen
On some strategic level, yeah.
jordan holmes
It should all be an attempt now to like.
dan friesen
Everyone is on the fucking back foot with this stuff.
The mainstream media has a lot of accounting to do for their own behaviors.
jordan holmes
Which they're not going to do.
dan friesen
Whether or not they're going to, it puts them in a less powerful position.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
It puts them on a defensive posture.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And now what you should be doing is demanding the invalidation of every law passed in the past four years.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Making Trump get to choose everything, undo all of Biden's foreign policy and economic decisions.
Rule that COVID didn't exist.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, all of this shit, that's strategically in the information war the right thing for Alex to be pushing for.
Right.
He's pissed off that some of these other people would rather yuck it up.
jordan holmes
I mean, no, I don't disagree with it.
The thing is, the thing is, right, is that he is right.
They're doing Palpatine shit.
So if you're going to do Palpatine shit, don't do half-ass Palpatine shit.
dan friesen
Just kill a few Padwan.
jordan holmes
Right.
We're blowing up Alderan.
Let's fucking go.
Right?
Sack up.
Let's ride.
What else is there to say?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is this or is this not a fucking takeover?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Are we order six or sixing, or are you all just fucking playing around with me?
unidentified
They're all a bunch of posers.
jordan holmes
They're all a bunch of posers.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, Alex is too.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's kind of revealed by how he can't live in that space of fucking blow up Alderan.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He has to complain.
He has to consider.
I don't want to do this show anymore.
jordan holmes
Nobody really wants to blow up Alderan.
dan friesen
Most people don't.
jordan holmes
It's like there's people who live there.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's fun in a movie, but we don't want to actually do it.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
And most people don't want Palpatine to take over the galaxy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Except a couple people do.
jordan holmes
Well.
And most people will be fine with it as long as administrative issues are pretty well taken care of and we leave the other stuff out in a foreign policy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I wish that Alex was bigger earlier.
I mean, I don't, but I think it would be funny in the way that J. Jonah Jameson is sort of an Alex proxy if there was an Alex character in the prequels who is just like doing a radio show in favor of Palpatine.
jordan holmes
Instead of Greg Proups doing the pod races.
Well, I know.
I know.
dan friesen
I don't know if you could get enough out of it in a sports setting.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
No, I just enjoyed the thought as well.
dan friesen
And what if it's Greg Proups and Alex?
jordan holmes
I think Attack of the Clones has some serious, like, it was Jar Jar La Long subtext that could be handled by, I don't know.
dan friesen
Do you think there could be a Gungan radio host?
jordan holmes
Is that what you're saying?
unidentified
I think this government is out of control.
dan friesen
It's a false flag.
jordan holmes
It's a falsified.
dan friesen
So we come to the end of this, and Alex has reported on a year-old James O'Keefe video and done a bad job in order to try and hijack or course correct some of the more passive coverage that the media, the right-wing media is doing about Biden.
Yeah.
And I agree with you that I think that his position makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Behind the petulance and the emotional outbursts.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
From the position of what is going to pay the most dividends in terms of basically ethicless information warfare.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Kick them while they're down.
Right.
But he still seems like a sad baby.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
I wish he would have left.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It would have been more dramatic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, you know, nobody's going to give you an award.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Nobody, you don't deserve an award.
You're gonna get force-choked like a fucking henchman.
Yeah, so shut up and get your ass choked.
dan friesen
The MSM ain't giving you an award.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
The Vader is not.
Palpatine's not.
Sorry, bud.
jordan holmes
Wrong team.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll check back in on this here guy and see how he's doing.
See if he cools off.
But until then, we have a website.
Indeed, we do.
jordan holmes
It's knowntried.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
alex jones
Yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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