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May 23, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1040: May 18, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to hear Alex's tasteful response to the news about Joe Biden's cancer diagnosis, and they possibly hear about a new exciting villain, code-named The Pelican.

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alex jones
17:33
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dan friesen
32:03
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jordan holmes
18:47
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alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is I'm going back to Expedition 33. Okay, hey.
Bonjour.
I've got a very specific bright spot.
unidentified
I beat the game, and I'm playing the New Game Plus.
Nouveau jour plus.
jordan holmes
And I've gotten good at the parry, which is the hardest thing in the game to do.
dan friesen
It's very tight timing.
jordan holmes
The timing is rough, and then the, like...
Sometimes the combos are like six or seven things in a row.
It's very difficult.
dan friesen
And you've got to hit them over.
If it's six hits, you've got to hit all six of them.
jordan holmes
And it's not in like a bop, bop, bop.
It's like a syncopated bop, ah, oh, oh, ah, kind of thing.
And it messes with your vibe.
But once you get it really down, then you start to notice that they have this pause.
They have this perfect pause, right, where the counter happens and you go, ah.
Like that.
There's that tiny little...
dan friesen
They're trying to get you to jump off sides.
jordan holmes
I realize that it's like the exact amount of time necessary to get a one-liner in from an action movie.
When you perform the counter, there's that like...
Now it's dog time.
Kabam!
And then it's the end of the...
It's perfect.
dan friesen
So you started doing that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
It's fantastic.
It is so satisfying.
That just little bit of like that...
Oh, this mother...
Bam!
It's great.
It's just perfect.
dan friesen
Do you say it to your dogs?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Whenever it's...
dan friesen
Deliver the line to the dogs and then take out the...
jordan holmes
I'm alone in my own home and nobody can judge me there.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's what I say.
dan friesen
It's nice to be able to be a little bit cocky in a video game context.
jordan holmes
It feels way too good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It feels way too good.
dan friesen
I think this is why the chatting and talking shit with people playing remotely caught on.
Because it does feel good.
Yeah.
When you get to burn kids in another country or whatever.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's great.
dan friesen
After you headshot them in Fortnite or whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's perfect.
If you've ever hit a home run, the feeling of hitting a home run and really just hitting the barrel onto the ball, you don't feel it.
It's the one time when you're playing baseball where you don't feel yourself swing and you sit there and you go...
That was fucking great.
And then you start trying.
dan friesen
It's great.
But it's also poor form to then say something shitty.
jordan holmes
It is usually.
dan friesen
Because then the pitcher's going to bean you the next time you're on the plate.
jordan holmes
It is usually.
But there are times.
There's a time for a bat flip and there's a time for, you know.
dan friesen
I famously told my buddy Nicky Gifts that if I ever got a home run, I would crab walk the bases.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And he has explained to me that I would get the shit kicked out of me.
unidentified
You'd be dead.
jordan holmes
You'd be dead in a heartbeat.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
So I'm...
My stories wrapped up last night.
I watched the Survivor finale live, and because of that, I had to watch a bunch more commercials than I usually do when I watch the rebroadcast commercials.
And I saw one for Phoenix University online.
Really?
jordan holmes
Still going!
dan friesen
It is.
And it was a riff on the tortoise and the hare, right?
Okay.
And so the metaphor is that the hare won.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or no, I'm sorry, the tortoise won.
jordan holmes
The tortoise won, yes.
dan friesen
And because of that, the world learned the wrong message, which is that everything should be slow.
So then the hare gets into college.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's trying to get into college.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And all these tortoises are so slow.
They're like, you've got to take a four-year college degree.
unidentified
You've got to...
jordan holmes
I like this.
I like this.
dan friesen
And the hair is like, I gotta go quicker.
I gotta get down to the business of coding an app.
jordan holmes
I like this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so Phoenix University offers the ability for the hair to go fast.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And get down to what he wants to do with his career.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
dan friesen
And I felt like this was missing the point of the tortoise and hare story.
jordan holmes
Makes me worry about the college.
dan friesen
I felt like it was almost a satire of online quick diploma college stuff.
jordan holmes
It is legitimately like watching, like, oh, Icarus, you're flying too close.
No, you keep flying!
Get up there, buddy!
You can make it!
dan friesen
Yeah, I was watching it and I felt like I had made it up in my mind.
So I watched it again later to make sure that I hadn't fully missed it.
I don't think I did.
It was wild.
Advertising is crazy business.
jordan holmes
That is an interesting lean into opening Pandora's box.
It wasn't a bad decision.
Fuck you!
Everything's great now!
dan friesen
How about that?
Slow and steady does not win the race.
jordan holmes
Screw your race!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Fuck it.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about May 18th, 2025.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
That's Sunday.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And, whew, Biden got cancer.
jordan holmes
Yes, he did.
dan friesen
Yep.
So that's where we're at.
Biden got prostate cancer that was announced.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And so we're going to hear about Alex's feelings.
jordan holmes
Why do we need to have feelings about this?
dan friesen
I think it's alright to have some human feelings.
Okay, okay.
But yeah, I think it's, you know, he's got cancer.
It's sad.
Whatever.
Alex is very sensitive, and it'll be thrilling to hear the humanity drip forth.
But before we get to that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, shout out to Connor, whose partner Jenna wants to wish her favorite policy wonk a wonderfully happy birthday and remind him that ivermectin might cure his IBS.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
You're lucky I saw that I there.
I almost said cure his BS.
unidentified
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
Next, ouch, I just got bit by a bumblebee.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Isaac, this is Rupert reminding you to fix your fucking bike already.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to The Mac Attack Is Back, Jack.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
I'll honk your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
That was appropriate because the Mac attack is back.
Jack, that's a Bidenism.
No more malarkey, Jack.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
And so, obviously, that is, you know, the top story here on this Sunday.
And so, Alex covers it by discussing how it's proven that Biden stole 2020.
Oh, okay.
And now...
Now he's getting cancer.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
Isn't that suspicious?
alex jones
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Isn't it suspicious?
This is connected.
jordan holmes
How is that timing?
dan friesen
It's connected.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Sunday, May 18th, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones.
And right as it all officially comes out, that Joe Biden was always a puppet, that there was this council that really ran things, that Obama was the head of it, and that they signed 99% plus of the bills and orders.
With the auto pin, he gets aggressive cancer, prostate cancer.
And you've got all the Jake Tappers writing their books about how he was a vegetable, but, oh, did Jake Tapper attack anybody that exposed that?
But we didn't need the corporate media to admit all this.
I knew it before Biden ran and got massively attacked.
But Biden was an illegitimate president.
Always a puppet.
They didn't just steal the 2020 election.
They had a committee that reported back to Barack Obama.
And now...
jordan holmes
Reported what back to?
alex jones
The great James O 'Keefe got huge undercover footage of the former deputy chief of staff admitting that Biden was a near vegetable and that who really ran the White House.
We have that video and audio coming up.
dan friesen
So I was interested in the way that Alex was presenting this, because he's saying that now that it's all coming out, that the 2020 election was stolen and that there's this council that's puppet mastering Biden.
I was like, where is this coming out?
jordan holmes
Yeah, where did this come out?
dan friesen
It's this James O 'Keefe video that he mentions there at the end.
So that's exciting.
It's confirming everything.
It's so convenient that he got this cancer.
jordan holmes
I feel like...
We need to, like, okay, so I've watched this happen in movies.
You know, they do the facial recognition thing where somebody's just walking through cameras and then we got a match.
It's this guy's face.
I don't understand how you can have any part of politics and not have one of those for, like, James O 'Keefe's face.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you should never be anywhere near this guy.
dan friesen
Well, one of the problems is he's a master of disguise.
jordan holmes
I strongly doubt that.
dan friesen
I don't know, man, but he dressed up like a pimp.
You could never tell.
At that time, no one knew who he was.
jordan holmes
He did look like James O 'Keefe wasn't wearing the clothes of a pimp.
dan friesen
That's true.
Yeah, I think...
Well, here's the thing.
With James O 'Keefe, he doesn't do the stings.
Sure.
You don't know who these people are.
They try to not publicize who their sting agents are.
jordan holmes
So he's got a team of people.
Do you think he has a surveillance van?
dan friesen
I hope so.
jordan holmes
They've got to have a van.
dan friesen
Yeah, if not...
It's not for lack of trying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it's definitely part of the pageantry that you'd want to have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're leaving shit on the table.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He usually, these videos, they're someone, oftentimes, on a dating app, they'll end up connecting with somebody who's the Project Veritas or James O 'Keefe plant.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They record the stuff, and then James O 'Keefe will show up later and be like, would you like to comment on this?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Wow.
So, oftentimes, that's his face-to-face involvement, probably because people would recognize him.
jordan holmes
So, he does to catch a predator?
dan friesen
Um, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, sort of.
jordan holmes
All right.
But, like, bad.
dan friesen
Except, generally, these people haven't committed crimes.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Just to lie to a maybe predator.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Biden's got this cancer.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so, the timing, Jordan.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why the timing is not good.
dan friesen
The timing is perfect.
jordan holmes
For what?
dan friesen
For getting rid of the Patsy.
jordan holmes
Listen, life was going to take care of that for us at any time anyways.
dan friesen
So we've got this council of people who are controlling Biden.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And now, they're all off the hook.
Because everything is going to get blamed on Biden when he dies from this prostate cancer.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's a perfect setup by the globalists.
alex jones
And now magically, so he can't be questioned about it, so there's no record of it, so they can just say, oh, it was really Biden did it all.
He'll be dead very, very soon.
You really think he just suddenly got cancer and is going to be dead?
It's like a movie that took out the other Patsy Lee Harvey Oswald with the killing of JFK in 63, got cancer and died a week later.
You know, one of those 24-hour cancers.
Unbelievable.
dan friesen
Just not believable.
jordan holmes
Man, my aunt went to the hospital and then two weeks later was gone.
So, yeah, I know how this kind of shit works.
dan friesen
Yeah, in the real world it can happen.
jordan holmes
Yep, that's how it, yep.
dan friesen
A lot of people have had to deal with their realities changing fast.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Because of, you know, sometimes it's a lack of detection and sometimes there's nothing you could have done, you know?
It's just...
Who's to say, like, at the point that we're recording this, I have no idea.
Like, how long people close to Biden might have known something.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know, and it doesn't really...
The cancer part, I don't really...
Like, I'm not really too interested in getting to the bottom of who knew what went.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's entirely plausible that the story, as we understand it, which is, like, pretty close to when this news came out, was when they found the diagnosis.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
There's nothing really suspicious about this unless you need to connect dots.
jordan holmes
I found zero suspicion.
I don't know if everybody is slightly avoiding this to some extent, but he's a very old man.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He's an old man.
He's very, very old.
dan friesen
I don't think people are avoiding that.
jordan holmes
But he's very...
Like, you should be more surprised he didn't have cancer, right?
Like, that's where we're at.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
The risk goes up as you go up.
jordan holmes
I was like, yeah, he's old.
He's got cancer.
Yes.
Agreed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But it's just the timing of it is off.
unidentified
I don't think so.
dan friesen
Well, you don't have the kind of brain that Alex does.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
By that I mean you're not smart like Alex is.
jordan holmes
That's also fair.
dan friesen
Being able to see the truth.
So, Alex has been talking to, like, top-level people in the Trump administration.
alex jones
Unbelievable.
And I've been talking to, I'll just leave it at that, high-level folks in the government today, several of them.
Very interesting about what's going on at the DOJ and the rest of it.
I'm going to think about the information I've got for a little while.
I may break it tonight, definitely break it in the next few days.
But when you learn stuff like this, it's very important.
You've got to cogitate on it and do your own research.
And then I come up with my synthesis for you.
We obviously have more on the 86-47 Comey being brought into questioning by the Secret Service and what's happening on that front, the attempts of the corporate media to spin it.
We have Trump posting on Truth Social the Clinton body count.
dan friesen
Okay, so right now we're in a situation where information is coming out that some people in the media knew things involving Biden's declining condition who failed to cover what they knew properly because they believed that to be in their best interests.
As Biden's presidency went on and the 2024 campaign began, a lot of people had a lot of subjective takes on Biden's status.
I don't want to get too bogged down in that kind of a conversation because I think that people who had no concrete information at all had equally valid perspectives.
At the time, it was sensible to say that you had concerns about Biden's seeming decline and it would also be fine to hold the position that publicly available information wasn't really the full picture and it was hard to make that assessment.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm not interested in those differences because the other difference is what matters.
had access to more information, which could have helped people get a fuller picture who chose not to provide that information.
That strategic withholding of information is a problem, and it's a valid point of criticism for the mainstream media to receive at this point.
The reason I bring all this up is because Alex is doing the exact same thing as the worst-case scenario of the mainstream media's actions would have been in that case.
He supposedly has some bombshell information from the highest levels of the Trump administration, and instead of reporting what he knows, he has to cogitate for a while to come up with a synthesis.
All that means is that he's trying to come up with a spin and a good way to sell a story to the audience.
Alex is capable of complaining about the mainstream media engaging in behavior that is definitely unethical, and there appears to be some value in that, but there's really not.
His criticism appears to be about their behavior, but it can't actually afford to be about the behavior because he does that shit all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is an interesting moment where there's a superficial criticism that Alex has that he can't really take deeper without cutting off his own foot.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, it is in a way like the reverse canary.
I don't know how I would describe it, but the way to look at it would be like, you know the mainstream media is fucked up because...
They did the same thing.
They're doing the same thing.
You see?
They're doing the same thing right now.
That's what Alex is good for.
Whenever the two wheels line up and the lines are right there, you go, ah, see, now you fucked up.
You did the thing he did.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's also where Alex is at his most impotent.
Right.
Because it's like, fuck.
jordan holmes
They cancel each other out with their uselessness.
dan friesen
Also, fantastic that we're starting off the show with two stories about social media posts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Did you see that 86-47 thing?
jordan holmes
I did not.
What does that mean?
dan friesen
So James Comey apparently posted a picture of some seashells on a beach that had 86-47.
You know, like 86 the ribs means they're out?
jordan holmes
Right, yeah.
So get rid of the 47th president, and I assume that's Trump.
dan friesen
It's a hit.
He's putting out an assassination hit.
jordan holmes
No, isn't that 187?
dan friesen
No, that's on a cop.
jordan holmes
Oh, right, right, right.
dan friesen
No, 86, you gotta...
jordan holmes
Isn't that like a restaurant?
I thought 86 was like a restaurant thing where you're just like, hey, 86 the carrots, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, we're out of carrots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Take it off the menu because we're out of it.
jordan holmes
It's like totally a normal, it's not a murder thing.
dan friesen
From my experience in the service industry, it is not a murder thing.
jordan holmes
Nobody's murdered carrots.
dan friesen
No.
Okay.
But it is with Comey.
jordan holmes
Oh, it is a with Comey thing.
dan friesen
For Alex, yeah.
jordan holmes
Why is Comey posting this?
What's Comey up to?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He's a weird guy.
jordan holmes
Let it go, man.
Go away.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
I'm not sure I particularly care about seashells that he's posting on his Instagram.
But, yeah, it's a big deal.
jordan holmes
That feels like bad memoir sales.
That's what the seashells saying 86-47 say to me.
I want to murder a guy.
dan friesen
Boring retirement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I think that, you know, Alex's response to this, and a lot of the right-wing media's response to this, feels a lot like when Musk was like, they published my murder coordinates.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's like that.
It's like, come on, guys.
jordan holmes
Guys, let's, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex just kind of goes away a little bit.
I noticed that there's a bit of filler going on.
There's a video that he plays that I thought was kind of interesting.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We are the number one hated and attacked media organization in the world by every evil, disgusting, sickening organization on the face of the planet.
And I'm going to say it.
If you're going to go, go as big as you can.
That's why John Hancock literally saw people signing their names a little bitty and people he knew signing them.
You really couldn't tell who they were.
And I get it.
Every person signing that was signing their potential death warrant.
He got up there and went, boom!
And he said, if I'm going to have the king coming after me, I want him to come after me, number one.
unidentified
That's a pretty large signature, Johnny.
alex jones
Yeah, I'm going to risk my life fighting tyranny.
Anybody who's ever been in fights, you know, looking for fights, but you've been in a few.
You learn, you hesitate when somebody's trying to beat the hell out of you.
You just decide to beat the living hell out of them and stop worrying about who's winning.
And you're going to win almost every time unless you're fighting Mike Tyson.
I know there's people knocking you upside the head really hard and like sit back and look at what it did.
Or somebody will hit you in the side of the head with a baseball bat and they'll kind of sit back and watch and see what it did.
I'm like a Terminator.
You're about to find out.
unidentified
I'll shove that bat up your ass and turn you into a popsicle.
alex jones
So, that's what's going on here.
And I love it because we're drawing their fire.
We've exposed them.
We've drawn them out of their rat holes.
To do all of this, the Soros scum and the Soros DA, all of them, they're filth.
They're disgusting tyrants.
Just like judges in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
They're disgusting.
And it's like we're in the dark and they got night vision.
We're in a pitch black arena with no light and they've got their illuminators on and they can see us and we can't see them.
Well, guess what?
I walked over with my listeners collectively and pulled the switch and turned the lights on.
dan friesen
What's the point of this?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
This is a thing that he edited out from regular...
dan friesen
I imagine Chase did.
jordan holmes
He wanted to keep this particular thing.
dan friesen
I turned on the lights because they're illuminators.
jordan holmes
To what end does this...
dan friesen
Well, I was thinking about it because that is exactly what I was wrestling with.
What is the point?
jordan holmes
What is this?
dan friesen
This is like two minutes long so far and it goes on longer.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
And I realized it's a promo.
It's a wrestling promo.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's the purpose that it serves.
He's telling the globalists, I'll meet you at the Coliseum on Sunday.
Tickets still available.
jordan holmes
Right, but it feels like there's a...
Promos have like a...
I mean, there's a certain...
There's a storytelling aspect to promos, you know?
Like, we are here for this reason to accomplish this thing.
This feels like rambling.
This feels like...
Regular rambling.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
It's not a good promo.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I think it's in the genre.
But he's not selling a pay-per-view.
He's selling supplements.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't get to an ad, but it's to get you rooting for him in his eternal fight against the globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because that stuff about fighting and how most people will punch you and then they'll look back at their work.
I could see that from a wrestler.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Being like, you might punch me, but I'm going to come back every time.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
That's just what this is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I just...
I mean...
I suppose it's more, I feel like, obviously Chase has to have cut it out, but it feels like B-roll to me.
It feels like this is the, he could do this in his sleep.
This doesn't mean anything.
This is like just a patter.
This is just what he does.
dan friesen
Yes, but also what Chase has cut out is the part where these usually go to an ad.
jordan holmes
Right, okay.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
This is the kind of stuff that he's saying, this is why you need to support the info.
unidentified
Right, but I assumed it goes to an ad.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It is.
It goes to instead...
Rambling about how great Trump is.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
Their attacks on Trump, their lawfare, all the criminal activity, how'd that work out for'em?
They were dumb enough to brag, remember, everywhere.
It'll be over for Trump when this mugshot comes out in Georgia, we're finally getting it.
Every channel, remember?
It's the end, the mugshot, the mugshot, the mugshot.
And then Trump nails it with a beyond Clint Eastwood, badass American Eagle gaze of total defiance that everybody looks at.
And nose deep down, that's the alpha male.
That's the badass.
That's the defiant real person.
You can't fake that look.
And then when they shot him, you got even more of that look.
Except the lips pulled down and the teeth bared and the eyes bugging out.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes, we get to see who's really who at times like this, don't we?
And now the bad guys are gonna find out who's really who, aren't you?
alex jones
Because the vidir of civilization.
is burning off.
And all the posers and all the thugs and all the bullies who thought they had this country on its knees and cowed are now just beginning to understand that they have awoken the terrible giant!
dan friesen
And this weekend, I'm going to, one, two, three, I'm going to take your Intercontinental title.
jordan holmes
It feels like, okay, I'm surprised that this had never really occurred to me.
Maybe I've thought about this before, but this is genuinely a kind of novel thought to me.
Like, we all know, like, St. Crispin's Day speeches.
We know, like, the Patton speech.
We know these inspiring speeches.
But we've never heard one delivered by Sauron to the orcs.
Where it's like, hey man, we're just gonna go fucking murder these innocent people.
You will find out if you murder innocent people.
And it's like, they must need those.
They must want a nice little...
That feels like what Sauron would say to get the orcs ready to start murdering people.
alex jones
You know?
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
The veneer of civilization has burned!
jordan holmes
Exactly!
alex jones
We find out who people really are.
jordan holmes
Why are you doing that voice?
This is an incongruous voice.
If you're trying to inspire me...
dan friesen
It's making me unsettled.
jordan holmes
Right, but if I'm an orc or a goblin, I've got to be like, oh, he's speaking my language.
Those are the tones that I find comforting.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I want to be clear.
I find it unsettling, but also not scary.
No, not scary at all.
jordan holmes
I find it funny.
No, yeah, not scary at all.
dan friesen
I think also, like, he's talking about the posers and, like, he should be burying bodies right now.
unidentified
He shouldn't be on his show doing a wrestling promo.
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he's not a poser or a phony, I should be dead.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
He should be clean.
Listen, we're loose ends at the very least.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
So this was a long fucking video that was going on.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
For almost no purpose.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And thankfully, Alex comes back.
Sort of.
alex jones
We're live.
Sunday night, May 18th, 2025.
Real leadership, the essence of leadership is showing people how it's done so that they understand it's the right way and getting them to.
dan friesen
So this just goes into another wrestling promo that he's done.
Alex showed up to save the date.
And pretend that it's live and then play another tape of him doing an inspirational speech about how great he is.
jordan holmes
Are we doing dueling promos?
Is he just going to play promos of himself back and forth at each other all the time?
dan friesen
Well, I don't think the globalists get any time to respond.
But yeah, he gets to build himself up some more.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
He should have at least one...
Enemy that's willing to do a shoot promo for him.
You know, like, oh, I'm a globalist guy.
I'm going to kill your families.
dan friesen
I think if someone, if people didn't feel like that would really risk their lives, like one of his fans would probably...
Not get the spirit of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's fair.
dan friesen
That's fair.
Not get the kayfabe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not really enjoy the storytelling and really more be into it.
dan friesen
If I were Alexander Soros, maybe I would do that.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I would send so many fun videos.
Yeah, that would be great.
alex jones
I'm coming to get you!
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
Yeah, no, why would you not?
Be the most fun with it.
dan friesen
These 24-inch pythons.
jordan holmes
I'm so evil.
unidentified
I have medbed technology behind me!
dan friesen
You think we're all pencil necks?
Look at this swole body!
jordan holmes
I use super-powered technology!
dan friesen
I'm masculine, too!
jordan holmes
My supplements are more supplemental!
That would be great.
dan friesen
So, earlier in the episode, we heard about how Obama and a council and all that are controlling Biden.
jordan holmes
Council of the 12th?
dan friesen
Numbers are iffy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But Alex talks a little bit more about this.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And Roger Stone predicted, before the 2020 election was stolen, exactly how this was all going to be done and who would run what, because he knows who these politicos are.
And remember, you can pull up mainstream news headlines, Barack Obama had his alternate White House a mile and a half away.
A whole compound with all these hundreds and hundreds of people coming and going and dozens and dozens of staff working around the clock, coordinating all of this, and that the main committee chairman, they even had a committee, was Barack Obama.
So we had like a politburo or a literal oligarchy running the nation.
And of course, you famously have the Speaker of the House a year and a half ago when he first came in.
Johnson, for months trying to get a meeting with Biden, when Biden had banned the sale of U.S. natural gas, he finally gets a meeting with him, but they wouldn't leave the room.
He asked Biden to kick him out.
He kicked him out, and he said, hey, here's your order banning the sale of liquid natural gas from the U.S. anywhere in the world.
I said, I didn't do that.
No such thing.
I signed an order.
I heard about studying natural gas.
They said, no, let me take you to a computer.
Call your staff in.
They came in.
They had a meeting.
Oh, my God.
The next day, he signed an order himself reversing it.
So this is beyond a scandal.
This is massive treason, and the corporate media is trying to spin it by making it about, oh, the cover-up by the Democrats.
Oh, who knew he was a vegetable?
You could see him on TV.
He had serious dementia.
Didn't know who he was half the time, literally falling down constantly.
So they spin the story, and they turn it into that instead of, The issue that they knew and that they had an auto pin and they had a committee that got together and then implemented it through his chief of staff and others.
And this undercover video also has this high-level official saying it was a free-for-all, too.
So these different groups in the committee could get whatever they wanted, but sometimes they'd put something else from another faction in front of him.
He'd sign that.
So it was just complete insanity.
dan friesen
Sounds insane.
jordan holmes
That does sound insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Biden didn't ban the sale of natural gas.
His Department of Energy put a freeze on giving out new permits to companies who wanted to sell natural gas outside the United States to countries that didn't have a pre-existing free trade agreement with the United States in place.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is lying about this story and also everything about it because the courts ended up blocking this freeze and now Trump is in office so anybody can make money off whatever they want.
jordan holmes
None of this means anything.
dan friesen
Yes.
All of this narrative that Alex is talking about, it's built around a supposedly new video James O 'Keefe has put out, which allegedly includes confessions from Biden's chief of staff.
In reality, this is a video from about a year ago featuring somebody who worked in the Small Business Association, and Alex just thinks it's new because people have been posting it on social media after Biden got diagnosed with cancer.
jordan holmes
Great, great, great, great, great.
dan friesen
And so, yeah, the main idea is, I guess, and this isn't even really backed up by...
James O 'Keefe's video.
But the idea is that Biden is gone.
He's not even there.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Right?
Yeah.
He's out.
He's just a body.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's a meat body.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so you have these different factions within this committee.
And they all have an auto pen that can sign things and make it look like Biden signed them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so they're all jockeying for influence.
jordan holmes
So we've got too many Bidens going on.
Too many Bidens in the kitchen.
dan friesen
So many.
jordan holmes
Everybody can sign Biden's signature, but nobody knows who's got the real Biden.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So you've got, obviously, Soros.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Obviously, you've got Obama.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
But the real problem that ended up coming up is there's too many factions.
jordan holmes
Too many factions.
dan friesen
And one of them was power-hungry.
And that was Dr. Jill Biden.
alex jones
Roger Stone first predicted before Biden even stole the election 2020 that they would end up replacing him ahead of the 2024 election.
And then a year before it happened, he said it's because Jill is making too many decisions as co-president against the Obama and Hillary and Soros factions that all are interconnected.
That's Soros, Hillary, and the Obama factions.
And they are just absolutely upset that now her fourth faction is dominant.
And at the end, it was Hunter and Biden's brother and Jill around him at all times.
And that more and more you had to go through them, and they were shutting off the Obama wing and others.
And then when Biden was...
Out in Las Vegas suddenly, ooh, a medical emergency.
His doctor with all the drugs, oh, he's at the hospital, but no, he wasn't.
They tried to cover it up, but independent media broke that first.
Then they fly him out to the East Coast to his beach area in Delaware, and he's out there for weeks, and there's a signature on a piece of paper without even U.S. No letterhead, no presidential letterhead, no White House letterhead, with his signature on it.
And he resigns as the 2024 candidate, but no one sees him for eight days.
And then he pops up with his hair sticking up, stumbling around, about to get on Air Force One to fly back at D.C. And they say, why did you resign out of the presidential rights?
He said, I didn't do that.
Remember?
What?
Yeah, right.
I mean, this was a coup from the beginning.
They stole the 2020 election from Trump, the American people.
And then they inserted a puppet who wouldn't know what was going on so they could commit all these crimes and steal all this money.
And then no one would ever know who to really blame because it's all done by committee.
But they can do it through the chief of staff and the White House lawyers.
And the people that actually wrote the bills and the orders, they can all be indicted, they can all be hauled in, but that's why Biden pardoned all of them.
And part of that committee, and on that committee, unofficial committee, was Nancy Pelosi, Adam Shifty Schiff, representing the neocons was Liz Cheney, she would get in on the meetings.
dan friesen
It almost makes too much sense.
jordan holmes
It almost makes too much sense.
dan friesen
It was Jill all along.
jordan holmes
I would be fine with condensing this narrative down to it was Jill.
Jill's got it.
Jill was playing the long game the whole time.
dan friesen
She played the Game of Thrones with the auto pen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was Edith Wilson-ing our way into Lady Utopia.
I gotcha.
I'm down with that.
I don't know why we need all this other stuff.
dan friesen
Well, I think it's because Alex is trying to make puzzle pieces fit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He has this new little bit of information, which is Biden has cancer.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's trying to go like, alright.
Where can we go?
If that's true, how does this relate to my other narrative?
He's doing an improv exercise.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And it's fun to watch.
jordan holmes
What can I free associate in this moment?
dan friesen
This man is untethered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's interesting, and it's full of high drama, but none of this is gonna matter if Alex has a future improv game that he wants to play, and any of this contradicts that.
All of this is just shit talk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, like, this is the type of thing that they'll do in, like, psychology appointments, you know, like, free associate, let's get a vibe for what...
Or this is a job.
There are two ways of going.
It could be used to evaluate whether you're insane, or if you're insane enough, you can turn it into your job.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and I think some of the purpose that it serves for Alex is that, like, alright, no one's gonna hold me accountable for this kind of stuff, making all these connections and all this, but...
If it's useful for me later, I can play a clip of me saying this stuff and it'll make me look like a prophet.
It's a win-win.
jordan holmes
There would genuinely be a part of me, if I was Alex, that would have hit the moment where I realized no one is ever going to hold me accountable for anything that I say.
And I would have gotten really sad.
I think that would have broken my heart a little bit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, sooner, because part of his whole thing is like...
Somebody's gotta take exception sooner or later, right?
Somebody has to.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think when, like, I know that Alex did it in response to Tucker saying he got attacked by a demon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But when he demanded that people take seriously his poltergeist encounter when he was a kid, I think that is where, if I were in his shoes...
I would start to feel like there's no challenge.
There's nothing left to conquer.
jordan holmes
I cried salt tears.
unidentified
There are no more worlds left to conquer, my friends.
dan friesen
So who is that?
Who are you quoting there?
jordan holmes
I believe I was quoting the Darts announcer when Eric Bristow...
Won the Darts World Championship at the age of 23?
dan friesen
That may be.
That may be.
But he was just quoting Star Wars.
jordan holmes
Was it Star Wars?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So Alex has a Star Wars metaphor that he wants to make about Trump's appointments.
jordan holmes
Oh, right.
dan friesen
And I think this one's bad.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And now, Trump can't even get in who he wants because the Republicans, as the key...
U.S. attorney in D.C., the guy that will actually do it, the guy that's not a coward, Ed Martin and others.
So now they're making him his own new special office with power to go after government weaponization, government racketeering against the people.
And I can tell you I've heard some very, very exciting things about that, and they're extremely scared.
The president can create a new task force.
And put a equivalent U.S. attorney over it with the power to go into any FBI office, any DOJ office he wants in the country.
So basically, to use a Star Wars analogy, this is, if Trump's Palpatine, Ed Martin's going to be his Darth Vader to go out and get stuff done.
So pray for him, because that's going to be a serious position to be in, getting literally, figuratively shot at.
dan friesen
Won't you please pray for Darth Vader?
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
unidentified
I'm...
dan friesen
Just a tiny little reminder that Darth Vader realizes that Palpatine was using him as an instrument for evil at the end of the story.
Quick little refresher that George Lucas went back and made Vader appear as a Force ghost, but as Anakin, which strongly suggests that his entire life as Vader was a transgression that he absolved himself of because he redeemed himself at the end of the story by helping Luke and turning on Palpatine.
jordan holmes
Also, he didn't have any arms or legs, so it would be very embarrassing to do it as Vader the Force ghost.
It would be like you'd have to explain why he was...
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know.
jordan holmes
He got his arms and legs cut off.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was that scene.
jordan holmes
There was that pretty big part of his life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He got left on the lava.
Yeah.
I think that...
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
I think if I heard someone saying that Obama was Palpatine putting in place his Darth Vader...
jordan holmes
Okay, do you mean the bad guy choosing the bad guy?
That guy?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're comparing the bad guy to the bad guy?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
I think it would raise alarms.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I guess it's never occurred to me truly to ask from just a purely administrative standpoint, would the bureaucracy prefer Palpatine to the messiness of the Galactic Republic?
dan friesen
Well, if Alex is calling Trump Palpatine, Palpatine...
Does false flags in order to consolidate the government under his own control.
jordan holmes
The most famous false flags of all time done by Palpatine.
dan friesen
When he enlists Darth Vader, part of it is killing the Padawans.
jordan holmes
Yep.
And murdering all the younglings.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You gotta murder all those younglings.
dan friesen
And creating a robot army.
jordan holmes
Well, that was the...
See, the robot army was actually the fake army.
It was the clone army that he was trying to create.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
Sure, but it's all in the mix.
Trump's doing clones or robot armies.
unidentified
Whatever the case, he was up to some bad stuff.
jordan holmes
He was playing both sides to become the emperor.
dan friesen
And won't you pray for him?
Having to worry about these rebels running around and possibly shooting at him?
jordan holmes
I find...
Here's what I find fascinating.
I find the impulse to hench so fascinating.
Because I don't understand it.
To me, when I look at a Palpatine or a Vader, I see these people and I say, yes, perhaps they may be able to do something for my career.
They have very much power.
They can elevate me.
They can do a lot of good things for me.
But, historically, the people who are close to them are going to get force choked.
So I'm just not going to be that.
dan friesen
And I think there's a bit of lore about how there can be a master and an apprentice.
jordan holmes
Only two!
dan friesen
Yeah, you're not going to make an exception where you're really important to the two of them.
jordan holmes
And they're both always trying to kill each other for some reason.
dan friesen
And they have magic and crazy swords.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I've seen that Darth Vader guy.
He chokes people.
jordan holmes
Sometimes not even for a good reason.
dan friesen
With magic.
jordan holmes
Sometimes not even for a good reason.
dan friesen
Yeah, I agree with you.
I think that the calculation is like, well, I'm gonna die.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm gonna die if I'm henchman.
jordan holmes
I'll just go hang out over here.
I'll be fine.
But then some people are like, well, I gotta go hench for that guy.
No!
dan friesen
Yeah, you just want that little bit of appearance of security that the Death Star gives you.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm Darth Vader's henchman.
I'm not some...
Lazy-ass henchman out here in the middle of the outpost or nothing.
I'm Darth Vader's henchman, so you know I'm going to live a very short period of time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Great.
jordan holmes
Dumb.
dan friesen
Pray for him.
Pray for Darth Vader.
jordan holmes
Pray for the Darth!
dan friesen
So, we need to talk a little bit about that auto-pen situation.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah.
dan friesen
You know, Biden, fake signatures and all this.
jordan holmes
What are we doing with fake signatures?
dan friesen
So the basic idea is that the Trump supporting folks want to have an argument to invalidate everything that Joe Biden did.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So if they feel like they're incorrect, but they feel like if they can somehow demonstrate that Biden's hand didn't sign the pardons for Hunter and shit, then they're not valid.
So we can lock up Hunter.
jordan holmes
I don't want to live in a world like that.
I don't want to live in a world where even if he did do it, that there's somebody who's like, ah, no, he didn't sign it with his actual hand.
So there's a last minute.
dan friesen
Well, legal scholars are fairly clear, especially on the issue of pardons, that you don't even have to sign a pardon.
jordan holmes
See, that's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is a moot point.
jordan holmes
Let's get out of here.
dan friesen
But yeah, so Alex talks about the auto pen and how that's really the scandal.
alex jones
And that's why the Democrats are in such complete panic mode and eating their own right now.
But again.
They're trying everywhere to spin it that it's a scandal that the Democratic Party covered up that he had dementia.
That's not the story.
We all know that.
We don't need them to tell us that they did that.
Please.
You don't need to tell me when the sun's shining.
I don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
The scandal, the treason, is the auto-pin and is the admissions that only two signatures are not that auto-pin.
I mean, how many times have you seen Trump sign an executive order?
He signs every damn one of them.
Every presidential order, every memorandum.
You see him doing it in that way.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a waste of time.
alex jones
He loves it with that badass signature.
And, I mean, it is a badass signature.
Not kissing his ass.
It's freaking insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Gotta call it like you see it.
jordan holmes
Darth Vader's signature is so great.
unidentified
So cool.
jordan holmes
It's a red signature.
Like, the regular Jedi have blue signatures, which is a loser signature.
Darth Vader's red!
Insane.
dan friesen
The soy boy blue signature.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Not like the manly, badass red signature.
jordan holmes
We're so far past any conception of, like...
Gender-based conversation if we're talking about quality of signature.
dan friesen
I do think that some people have cooler signatures than others.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't feel any strong feelings about Trump's signature, necessarily.
But I have seen some people who have a pretty cool artistic style to have this on something.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
I think that Alex might be kissing ass a little.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I'm gonna go with yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, the auto pen, that's the real scandal here, though.
jordan holmes
That's the scandal of scandals.
dan friesen
So there's no legal or ethical problem with using an auto pen to sign documents.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This has been ruled on going back to 2005 in terms of the Department of Justice rules, and it was upheld in federal court in 2024.
This is a line of attack designed to mostly play in the court of public opinion.
Well, these people in Congress get to grandstand about an issue that everyone...
There should know is not a big deal.
It's a distraction.
It's jangling keys.
jordan holmes
What do we do?
If I have to sign something with a mouse, does that not count?
dan friesen
Legally, no.
jordan holmes
See?
There you go.
I guess this all makes sense then.
dan friesen
And man, we got everything that has ever been stamped.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm gonna say this.
For all this grandstanding about the strength and beauty of a man's signature, there is nothing less respectable than the almost obscene...
Love they have for the, like, last-minute technicality being the thing that makes...
Like, we don't want to win on the merits of our competition.
Absolutely not.
We want a last-second rule change.
dan friesen
It was a fake pen!
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, my God.
Hooray!
Now the fact that we're a bunch of losers doesn't matter anymore.
Like, God damn it, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Win or lose?
dan friesen
Nah, but it's, you know, just trying to keep people interested.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks a little bit about this...
James O 'Keefe video.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That came out.
And he does on a couple occasions call it a Project Veritas video and then has to correct himself because James O 'Keefe no longer there.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there was one particular time that he caught himself that was really funny.
He's like, there's this new project that James O 'Keefe has done.
I was like, smooth.
unidentified
Smooth.
jordan holmes
That's how you do it.
There you go.
That's a pro.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he talks about it and I was able to, because he does, I can nail down specifics.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
That's a baby scandal, and alone, it's gigantic.
Yes, it's one of the biggest ever, but not compared to this, that we had an ongoing stolen election with a coup of bureaucrats and former presidents and vice presidents and secretaries of states and all of them in committees with Jill Biden deciding on what they were going to do.
Treasonous Barack Obama, and that's what comes up.
He was the key.
And Hillary Clinton.
We're running the White House under Joe Biden.
Obama is very involved, says Tyler Robinson, special advisor to the administrator of the U.S. Small Business Administration, working directly as a deputy to the chief of staff, Ron Klain.
Who?
Roger Stone said if they steal the election in 2020, it'll be Ron Klain.
Who works for who?
Barack Obama.
dan friesen
So Tyler Robinson testified about getting caught in this sting operation in June 2024.
He matched with a gal on an app that March, and she recorded him on some dates.
He said, quote, So,
making misstatements myself.
The result is a selectively edited misleading video.
In the video, I agree to and say things that are not accurate and do not reflect the agency's true work and priorities.
I'm personally sorry for any confusion or misunderstanding.
I think it's very understandable.
This is not some kind of...
He's trying to impress this person.
It's on a date.
You're lying.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I can't think of a funnier, curbier, enthusiasm version of trying to smash lies than this.
Him reading that should end with...
Like, it's crazy.
dan friesen
So the idea that is taken away from the video is that there's this committee that's running everything.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that comes from him trying to reassure this woman that he's on a date with, who he believes to be a big Hillary supporter, that Hillary still has influence in the White House.
jordan holmes
It's going to be good.
Everything's going to be fine.
dan friesen
Her voice is still being heard.
That's where this committee is built off of.
It's just pathetic.
So Alex is connecting this to the White House Chief of Staff because in the video, which...
Came out around this time.
So this is like a year old.
Yeah.
James O 'Keefe cold called Jeff Zintz, who is the Biden chief of staff for comment.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
And does not get very far with it.
But that's where the chief of staff element coming in.
jordan holmes
So we can put it all together and we've got a nice little mac and cheese of bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We can exaggerate this guy trying to smash.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's it.
I mean, man, sometimes you really can't just hear a man say, I was trying to smash.
What do you want?
dan friesen
That's the shorter version of what he testified to.
jordan holmes
I know, right?
Sometimes there's nuance and sometimes things are very simple.
dan friesen
I think this is very simple with the additional element of like...
I happened to work in the Small Business Administration, and I felt like I could embellish things in order to make this person not feel scared.
So there's kind of a...
Noble line that goes through the trying to smash?
jordan holmes
I'm gonna have the best two truths and a lie icebreaker stories for the rest of my life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So most of this episode is Alex pretending that this James O 'Keefe video is new and then embellishing and lying much like the guy in the video is doing.
Right.
And so I found it really boring.
But then...
The end of this clip introduced something that I think is a great mystery.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I've got a lot of other amazing news to cover, but it all ties into the fact that the Biden administration was always a fraud.
They stole the 2020 election.
We know that.
And then even if you want to debate that and live in a fantasy land, we have now undercover video of the deputy chief of staff, one of the main deputies, saying, oh, yeah.
It was a committee of Hillary and Obama and Jill and the Soros representative, and they would just decide, and he wasn't the president.
But again, the media, the corporate media, and it seems like all the alternative media, too, that's the real media, has taken the bait.
I mean, the corporate media has just told it to say, oh, it's the scandal that they knew he had cognitive problems and covered it up.
It didn't cover up.
They pretended like we were believing their BS when they would gaslight us and say, this is the best Biden ever.
He has a photographic memory.
He's so incredible.
When he was falling down and didn't know who he was, just stumbling around like a complete maniac, falling off bicycles, falling downstairs, falling upstairs, squatting in the middle of the podium like he's taking a dump, crapping himself, then saying, my butt was just wiped.
As I told you years before, when he gets mad, he craps his diapers.
I didn't just pull that out of the air.
I got that from the Secret Service and from the police, and I'll leave it at that, who witnessed it as well.
And the Pelican...
So, it just goes on and on.
Absolutely stunning.
dan friesen
Who's the Pelican?
jordan holmes
What the Pelican?
unidentified
Who's the Pelican?
jordan holmes
The Pelican what?
The Pelican.
dan friesen
Look, he's listing off his sources.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's talking about the police.
jordan holmes
The police.
The secret service.
The pelican.
Who's the pelican?
dan friesen
Is that Roger's codename?
unidentified
Codename, the pelican.
jordan holmes
And then there was just a pause.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
A suspicious pause.
jordan holmes
As if he said too much.
I shouldn't have mentioned the pelican.
Yes.
dan friesen
I'm going to get killed for saying the Pelican.
jordan holmes
I mean, I need to know more about the Pelican.
Right.
dan friesen
That's all I care about now.
jordan holmes
I genuinely don't know what that...
I was like, maybe he's trying to say the Pelican Brief, but why would you say the Pelican Brief?
What is the Pelican Brief?
dan friesen
It's a book.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
It's a legal drama.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it's not.
It's not.
I know that...
dan friesen
It's not about Biden crapping his pants.
No.
But the Pelican...
jordan holmes
It's got nothing to do with that.
dan friesen
The Pelican might have told him.
jordan holmes
The Pelican.
The pelican.
dan friesen
It's his deep throat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The pelican.
unidentified
The pelican.
jordan holmes
Now I can't stop saying it.
dan friesen
Me too.
And I just imagine a pelican in a coat.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Unlike other things, it is just literally a pelican that is making regular pelican noises, and Alex listens to it and tells you what it says.
dan friesen
Yeah, the pelican meets Alex in a parking garage.
I got a fish for you.
I do like to, though.
I mean, we have the possibility here to branch out.
We have an emotional support pelican.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And now we have the pelican.
jordan holmes
We have the pelican.
dan friesen
We have a cast of pelicans.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
We've got the California raisins, but pelicans.
Yes.
It's happening.
dan friesen
I think that this is the...
Best direction our show could take, which is just a roster of pelicans.
jordan holmes
And we all know that there's the You Belong to the City pelican plays the sex.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There is?
Have I blocked this out of my memory?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Oh.
So yeah, I don't know.
That's all I care about now.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Who's the pelican?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
It's not a bad codename.
I would take the pelican.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
What does it imply about you?
jordan holmes
Eh, you can hold a lot of stuff in your mouth.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I think as a messenger, you know, like, you've got a lot of, you've got a big message, I guess, is what I'm saying.
dan friesen
In your little, in your jowl thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're the pelican, you fly from places to places, you've got a big message.
Because you need so much space in your mouth for that message.
dan friesen
My fantasy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I know this isn't true, and I'm just setting myself up for disappointment.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Steve Pachanek.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The pelican.
jordan holmes
He would give himself that name, and he would have a very complex backstory.
It would not be a simple thing like, I deliver big messages.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Are there pelicans in Florida?
He lives in Florida.
jordan holmes
There are definitely pelicans in Florida.
dan friesen
Yeah, I could just see him sitting outside his home.
jordan holmes
We've said the word pelican so much, I genuinely don't know what it is.
I can't even see a real one anymore.
dan friesen
I can, but it's blending with Steve.
They're becoming one.
They have face swapped.
jordan holmes
Steve is also now turning into, I think, Val Kilmer from The Jackal for me.
dan friesen
The issue is, it's getting too much into the pro wrestling thing.
Alex did a promo at the beginning of this.
Now we have the introduction of a mysterious character.
It's got to be revealed to be someone we know, right?
Otherwise, why would you call him the Pelican?
jordan holmes
I mean, unless that was their name?
dan friesen
Did he just misspeak?
jordan holmes
Did he just say the pelican?
That's also possible.
dan friesen
Oh well.
jordan holmes
Maybe what he was thinking of was the toucan.
dan friesen
Could have been.
Which follows his nose.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
Gets all the clues.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Maybe he's messed up.
Maybe we don't even have the right codename.
dan friesen
This is a testament to how dumb Alex's show is.
That I'm very excited about.
jordan holmes
This.
Pelican watch?
dan friesen
I wouldn't have cared if he said the pelican if he would have kept talking.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's the pause.
jordan holmes
And then the moving on as though the name itself wasn't just spoken and we need an explanation for what the pelican is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we got one last clip.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Because Alex gets really mad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because he just gave out the name of the pelican.
No, he's mad because no one else gets it like he does.
jordan holmes
Nobody gets it like he does.
dan friesen
No one's a smarter boy.
alex jones
I don't understand why politically I understand this stuff and most other populists who are good people just have blind spots.
Because instead all I hear is a big...
We see we told you so.
We told you Biden was cognitively degenerating.
We told you he had dementia.
We told you, we told you, we told you, we told you, because the media now is reporting it.
Oh, look, we're vindicated.
He was a vegetable.
What?
You need them to tell you something?
It's like two months ago, New York Times, 30-something page article, the U.S. ran the whole Ukraine war the whole time and was directing it.
I told you that before it happened.
It's on record.
It's not hidden.
Who do you think runs those weapons systems?
Sure as hell ain't the Ukrainians.
Plus, I know people over there before the war started officially.
I got family, extended family, and I've got other friends whose sons are over there.
Special operations fighting the Russians.
I told you that.
Before the war officially started three years and four months ago, three months ago.
So, I am just really sick of this.
I mean, my job, my mission is to get everybody to figure out how stuff works so they can't keep running these scams.
My mission is not to sit up here and be one of the only people continually that knows how the damn cow ate the frickin'cabbage.
I'm legitimately so angry I'm not going to continue the show.
I'm going to go break.
There's some important clubs.
Chase is coming up later.
I'm not coming in here anymore, man.
I can't do this anymore.
The public needs to get their head out of their ass.
I mean, even people who think they're awake, you got your head halfway up your ass.
I don't even know what to say at this point.
dan friesen
I gotta get out of here.
I cannot keep doing this show.
The Pelican is gonna fucking kill me.
jordan holmes
I mean, yes!
dan friesen
I have to run.
jordan holmes
I agree with everything he's said so far.
dan friesen
Chase, take over.
Yeah, so it's been a while since we've seen a little bit of that action.
jordan holmes
It's nice.
It's nice to hear.
dan friesen
It's nice, too, that this exists with sobriety.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That he can still pout and want to quit the show.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't ever want to come back here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
unidentified
Go!
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Why is there nobody?
I feel like there should be somebody at the studio who's just, like, sick of it.
It's just like, then do it, man!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Go!
dan friesen
What makes it worse is that he doesn't leave.
Like, he continues to complain.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And it's just, like, no, you should, you said you were leaving.
jordan holmes
Leave.
Go.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't do this.
jordan holmes
Don't, go!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So if you understand how Alex's place in the propaganda machine works, what he's actually expressing in that clip is a frustration that he never gets to enjoy a win.
Biden having cancer and a recognition that the media didn't cover his condition thoroughly during the lead-up to the election, that's an unqualified win for the extreme right-wing media community.
They engaged in wildly inappropriate reporting themselves, and were inaccurate in their own way, but now all of that doesn't matter, because they can point to legitimate criticism of the mainstream press.
All of the other right-wing figures kinda get to enjoy this win, from folks on Fox News to Tucker, but Alex doesn't get that satisfaction.
His role is beyond this kind of thing.
The stories that he sells the audience are far beyond prostate cancer and whatever's in Jake Tapper's book, so none of this is actually all that validating for him.
Saying that Biden had dementia and was secretly dying is on the verge of what's acceptable for folks on the more respectable places of right-wing media to dabble in.
It's on the fringes.
So for them, this is an instance of legitimate reporting accidentally supporting their steps onto thinner ice.
This dynamic is not the same for Alex.
If you believe the things that he says on his show, your response to all of this should be a yawn.
Anything short of cancer forcing Biden to reveal his true demon form, wings and all, can't be interesting because everything up to that point is supposed to be proven and documented a hundred times over by this point.
jordan holmes
Wasn't he a walk-in?
dan friesen
Now he's plumping.
jordan holmes
He was plumping.
That's right.
He was plumping.
dan friesen
Ten bags of blood.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
And that's kind of, you know, that dynamic is why this leads to a tantrum.
No one else in the Patriot media gets it.
If you say, we told you so, that's a passive, almost defensive response to this news.
And they need to follow the Roger Stone method of always being on the attack.
Saying I told you so is satisfying in the moment, but it denies you the opportunity to use this brief window to escalate your attacks and force your opponent to defend themselves against more and more sensational accusations.
They showed information war weakness by admitting that the media didn't cover Biden's condition well, so you can't even give them a second to catch their breath.
You need to kick them while they're down.
That's what Alex is.
That's how he makes his shit work.
This is Alex's posture, and he can't join in all the fun reindeer games that his media sphere is playing right now, and you can see that it kind of sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He doesn't enjoy that burden that he carries.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, you know, you don't get invited to all the cool parties.
dan friesen
That's the price you pay for getting to talk about being attacked by a poltergeist, and it doesn't ruin your career.
Yep.
jordan holmes
There are trade-offs.
That's just the way it goes.
dan friesen
And that's why this outburst just feels like, come on, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
You should already be well prepared for this.
jordan holmes
It doesn't happen all too often, but it's happened plenty over the past 30 years.
Nobody's ever going to be like, well, now let's do what you say.
That's never going to happen.
It's just not.
dan friesen
But I think that Alex has tasted enough of that that he has an expectation that maybe people will.
unidentified
I mean...
dan friesen
A lot of people who are in powerful positions have taken on more Alex Infowary kind of strategies.
And at the same time, Alex's strategies have melded a lot with that Roger Stone model.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so they've come much closer to each other.
So I get why he would be frustrated that everyone doesn't just like...
Alright, fucking go for blood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
And I honestly kind of think he's probably right.
dan friesen
On some strategic level, yeah.
jordan holmes
It should all be an attempt now to like...
dan friesen
Everyone is on the fucking back foot with this stuff.
The mainstream media has a lot of accounting to do for their own behaviors.
jordan holmes
Which they're not going to do.
dan friesen
Whether or not they're going to, it puts them in a less powerful position.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It puts them on a defensive posture.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And now what you should be doing is demanding the invalidation of every law passed in the past four years.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Making Trump get to choose everything.
Undo all of Biden's foreign policy and economic decisions.
Rule that COVID didn't exist.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, all of this shit, that's...
That's strategically, in the information war, the right thing for Alex to be pushing for.
He's pissed off that some of these other people would rather yuck it up.
jordan holmes
I mean, no, I don't disagree with it.
The thing is, right, is that he is right.
They're doing Palpatine shit.
So if you're gonna do Palpatine shit, don't do half-ass Palpatine shit.
dan friesen
Don't kill a few Padawan.
jordan holmes
Right.
We're blowing up Alderaan.
Let's fucking go.
Right?
Sack up.
Let's ride.
What else is there to say?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Is this or is this not a fucking takeover?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Are we order six or sixing or you're all just fucking playing around with me?
You're all a bunch of posers!
You're all a bunch of posers!
dan friesen
But unfortunately, Alex is too.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's kind of revealed by how he can't...
Live in that space of fucking blow up Alderaan.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He has to complain.
I don't want to do this show anymore.
jordan holmes
Nobody really wants to blow up Alderaan.
dan friesen
Most people don't.
jordan holmes
There's people who live there.
Come on, man.
It's fun in a movie, but we don't want to actually do it.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
And most people don't want Palpatine to take over the galaxy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Except a couple people do.
jordan holmes
Well...
And most people will be fine with it as long as administrative issues are pretty well taken care of and we leave the other stuff out in a foreign policy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I wish that Alex was bigger earlier.
I mean, I don't.
But I think it would be funny in the way that J. Jonah Jameson is sort of an Alex proxy if there was an Alex character in the prequels who is just doing a radio show in favor of Palpatine.
jordan holmes
Instead of Greg Proops doing the pod races.
No, I know.
dan friesen
I don't know if you could get enough out of it in a sports setting.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
No, I just enjoyed the thought as well.
dan friesen
What if it's Greg Proops and Alex?
jordan holmes
I think Attack of the Clones has some serious, like, it was Jar Jar all along subtext that could be handled by a, I don't know.
dan friesen
Do you think there could be a Gungan radio host?
Is that what you're saying?
jordan holmes
I think this government is out of control.
dan friesen
It's a false flag.
jordan holmes
It's a false flag.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, we come to the end of this, and Alex has reported on a year-old James O 'Keefe video.
jordan holmes
Got him.
dan friesen
and done a bad job in order to try and hijack or course correct some of the more passive coverage that the media, the right wing media is doing about Biden.
And I agree with you that I think that his position makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Behind the petulance and the emotional outburst.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
From the position of what is going to pay the most dividends in terms of basically ethicless information.
Information warfare.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Kick them while they're down.
Right.
But he still seems like a sad baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
I wish you would have left.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It would have been more dramatic.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
unidentified
I mean, you know, nobody's gonna give you an award.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You don't deserve an award!
You're gonna get force choked like a fucking henchman!
So shut up and get your ass choked!
dan friesen
The MSM ain't giving you an award.
The Vader's not.
Palpatine's not.
Sorry, bud.
jordan holmes
Wrong team.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll check back in on this here guy.
See how he's doing.
See if he cools off.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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