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April 11, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1024: March 11, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to hear Alex discuss grenade-training monkeys, loving Elon Musk, and his feelings about one of his employees getting murdered.

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Main voices
a
alex jones
21:13
d
dan friesen
34:23
j
jordan holmes
19:04
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Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your word.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is an unfortunate kaboom.
It is a negative.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
My buddy Nicky Gifts sent me a text recently informing me that Reese's had a new variety.
jordan holmes
Ah!
dan friesen
Peanut butter and jelly.
Wrong.
Well, I mean, very interested.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Obviously the idea, it sparks hope.
unidentified
Curiosity?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I managed to get my hands on some of these, found them at the pharmacy.
jordan holmes
The old pharmacy.
dan friesen
Yep, in the impulse buy section.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And to my surprise, it came in two varieties.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
It came in grape and strawberry.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So I said I gotta get both.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
It's polite of them to offer you a choice, but also they knew that you were going to have to try both.
dan friesen
Yep.
And so I felt like, I think grape's gonna be worse.
So I tried the grape first.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Thumbs down.
jordan holmes
Big thumbs down on the grape.
dan friesen
So then I tried the strawberry.
Thumbs down.
jordan holmes
Not surprising.
dan friesen
Here's what you don't remember all the time about peanut butter and jelly.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
It doesn't include chocolate.
jordan holmes
It's not covered in chocolate?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not coated with...
When you have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you don't coat it in a lightly battered...
dan friesen
You don't put Nutella, peanut butter, and jelly.
Those flavors kind of get mixed up and conflict with each other a little bit.
Also, the texture of the jelly is not good.
jordan holmes
How could it possibly be good?
dan friesen
That's bad.
jordan holmes
What magic...
I think powers would be required to make a Reese's, like, ghoul next to a goopy jelly.
It's impossible.
dan friesen
You'd need magic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'd need something that is forbidden by God.
jordan holmes
Impossible, yes.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So it was unfortunate, but, you know, it's a bright spot because, God bless you for trying, I tip my hat, and I respect you.
jordan holmes
I do like that.
I wonder, you know, sometimes when it's something like that, I wonder if they make them...
Somebody had the idea, and then they eat them and they just go, I mean, it's too late now.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
It has to be that.
dan friesen
We printed the labels.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's already done.
They're on the way.
dan friesen
The peanut butter and jelly M&Ms, I think, were better.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that that was a much better execution of this.
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, turns out, rough...
Rough go.
dan friesen
Rafa.
jordan holmes
Rough age limit.
About nine months ago, my little sister announced that she would be having a baby.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
And that means that right around now, she will be having a baby.
dan friesen
About nine months.
jordan holmes
About nine months later after that is how it usually works.
dan friesen
Gestation.
jordan holmes
It could happen, I'm told, at any moment.
dan friesen
So we're really on bright spot alert.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
By the time this bright spot happens, it may be a bright spot.
dan friesen
Or you could get a text in the middle of the recording of this episode and find out you got a bright spot.
jordan holmes
Entirely possible.
Or it might not happen until a week from now.
No one understands the mystery of life, Dan.
dan friesen
That's gestation, man.
jordan holmes
It's just the Lord and whomever else is making decisions.
dan friesen
So, do we have a name?
I feel like these are private questions.
I don't need to ask.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Here's what's even better.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
I don't know the answers.
dan friesen
Sure, you'll find out in due time.
Exactly, Bill.
I don't know what to ask somebody whose sibling is about to have a baby.
Like, I don't know what the questions are.
jordan holmes
I don't have any questions myself.
dan friesen
I hope everyone's healthy.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That's my thoughts exactly.
I'm just, you know what, good luck to everybody.
dan friesen
Well, congratulations in advance to her and to you.
Jordan, today we have an episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, do we?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
In honor of your new niece or nephew.
jordan holmes
Hooray!
dan friesen
This sucks.
This is an episode I don't want to do, but we got to do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It is what it is.
And we'll talk about it in a second.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I've been waiting so long to be where I'm going in the sunshine of your wonk.
Love you from TKO.
Thank you so much.
You're not a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, only watch Dune because Dan's vacuum cleaner commentary and it made more sense than the rest of the film.
From an American man-Irish woman.
Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
American mom- ma 'am?
Ma 'am?
Oh, man.
That's all one word and it is tough.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
Next, the globalist proboscis is just an anti-Semitic slur.
Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I worry about that.
I don't think it is, but man, it could be interpreted that way.
jordan holmes
It didn't even occur to me until I read that, and then I was like, oh yeah, no, it could totally...
Yep, now I get it.
dan friesen
I can definitely see how that would be, but I think it has more to do with a mosquito, but then...
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
There's some...
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I think it's one of those ones where it was intended originally as this way, and then, like a dandelion, suddenly the reality popped up to the side, and they were like, well, that works too.
dan friesen
Yeah, it takes some fun out of Alex's stupidity, but it is possible.
Anyway, we've got a technical right in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too.
To all of my dengins in SGI, which is totally not a cult, this is your captain speaking.
Stay spicy, my Fremen, and don't forget to biffer.
Pronounced by far.
Ah, shit.
Also, sorry, Dan, I know you don't know Dune, but I need to hear you say quitsat satirac so Jordan can correct you.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
You're a technocrat, not a policy walk.
I misspoke because I was excited about it.
I think I got that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you got it close enough.
In Wisconsin, they say Kwisatz Herrick.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
So I think that's also a correct pronunciation.
dan friesen
What's the correct?
jordan holmes
I'm going to tell you something right now.
dan friesen
There is no correct translation.
jordan holmes
I don't know if they speak English on Arrakis.
dan friesen
I'm sure they don't.
jordan holmes
You know, like, what's their native tongue?
And then you have to figure, where is Kwisatz Haderach from?
You know, what's the reference point for that?
The Bene Gesserit came out of, I mean, not even Earth.
So where did they come up with it?
dan friesen
But the House Atreides did have a bagpipe.
That is true.
That means that, you know, there's some lineage to Earth.
jordan holmes
They go all the way back to Agamemnon and shit.
dan friesen
I think that typically, from a phonetic perspective, if you have that TZ at the end of one word and an H at the beginning of the first, there's going to be an elision between the two.
jordan holmes
Kwazatz Haderach.
dan friesen
Yeah, the Z and the H are going to flow into each other, but I don't care.
jordan holmes
No, I think you did great.
dan friesen
You dorks!
So, Jordan, today, our episode we're going to be talking about is March 11th, 2025.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And we are covering this because it is a day that is a bit of a bummer and very sad, and that is the day before this, late in the evening of the 9th into the morning of the 10th, one of Alex's employees, Jamie White, was murdered.
And from all indications that people can tell, he was coming home late from work.
Someone had tried to break into his car a number of months prior, and this happened again, and he was confronting the people who were trying to break into his car, and he got shot.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And it's very sad.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And just because he works at Infowars doesn't mean he's not a person, and it doesn't mean that his family isn't going through some stuff, and, you know, it's awful.
For sure.
Alex has made an attempt to turn this into a storyline.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
There was an immediate blaming of the DA in Austin for allowing criminals...
jordan holmes
The district attorney murdered?
dan friesen
Well, no.
He allowed criminals to run roughshod over the streets.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
You know, that's...
I guess.
I might not be as interested in Alex's exploitation of this person's death if it hadn't...
Escalated a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so here we are on the 11th.
jordan holmes
Did Hillary do it?
dan friesen
Close.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
alex jones
All right.
It is Tuesday, March 11th, 2025.
I am your host, Alex Jones.
And while I was on with Eric Bolling and Benny Johnson and others, right before I went on air, the crew...
Talking to the family and the police got a lot more information on our great reporter, Jamie White, that was brutally murdered Sunday night, right before midnight, died a few minutes into Monday morning.
Right when he got to the hospital, the police got there really quick.
My initial instinct was that it would be Jose Garza, probably the worst Soros DA in the country, who has just opened this place up to just mass murder and crime.
That it would be gangbangers that killed him because there's a lot of them and it's really bad.
But then everybody started pointing out to me that Jamie got put on the Ukrainian enemies hit list.
And you remember the Ukrainians were openly listing a U.S. senator that they were going to better watch out and Jack Posobiec better watch out and Jamie White better watch out.
I remember when this first happened.
A year and a half ago, I remember saying to Jamie, wow, I'm jealous that I'm not on the list.
What is this?
It's not funny now, obviously.
dan friesen
No.
So it wasn't the Ukrainian government.
There was a report that came out from a Ukrainian independent media organization that was about the spreading of right-wing and pro-Russia talking points in media outlets.
And Jamie White was one of the people who wrote a number of articles for Infowars that were just kind of...
You know, you could argue we're Kremlin talking points.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so that's what Alex is referring to.
And you can see there's a little bit of an interest in changing this from a, the cops are incompetent, to Ukraine did this.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It was an assassination.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, when Zelensky sees an InfoWars reporter getting a little bit out of his station, somebody's got a...
Let's say, handle the weeds.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just think that this is a nice illustration, I guess, of something that I make a point of a bit, and that is that Alex's primary function and the way he derives energy and power is off exploiting strong emotions and tragedy.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And if you're somebody who's around him, you are liable to become a part of that.
Your death will be used in service of generating that power based on tragedy.
On the exploitation of that tragedy.
It's very, very sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you didn't know that now, or before, then you have to know it now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, I mean, like, in the future...
You should expect to have your death exploited.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
And it's a real bummer.
Like, honestly, I, when this happened in the real world, you know, that we're about a month removed.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I do think that my, I think I took a hit, my mood.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Just the sort of realization of how cheap life is to someone like Alex.
Sure.
And that was unnecessary.
I didn't need to have those feelings.
jordan holmes
Nah, probably not.
dan friesen
But here we are.
So the police have talked to Alex and they're like, hey man, we got no people.
There's no cops.
jordan holmes
There's no cops to, oh.
dan friesen
Basically.
alex jones
And notice whether it was that what was involved or criminals running wild that just get released.
The police told us a lot.
I mean, they said, listen.
They cut one-third of the cops.
They ran off a bunch of the police.
Then they took half of what was left of the two-thirds, the other third, and put them into social work, community outreach, brainwashing, PR.
And they said, we can barely even respond to all these crime scenes, much less investigate them.
And you know the story all over the country.
You've seen it.
It's just terrible.
Jose Garza is a communist.
Admittedly, he says he is.
In fact, try to find the Zoom meetings.
Austin D.A. Jose Garza calls members of his staff comrade, and there's video of him at meetings calling them comrades, and he will not prosecute a Hispanic or a black person if they're killing a white person.
He's literally a racist.
And he's barely even prosecuted if they kill another Hispanic or black person.
jordan holmes
Barely.
alex jones
He says this publicly.
jordan holmes
He will, but he'll barely do it.
alex jones
It is open season on white people.
Luckily, most folks that are brown don't hate us and don't want to kill us, but there are some that do.
And it just happens all the time.
dan friesen
So the Austin Police Department is experiencing a little bit of a staffing crisis, but the rest of this stuff is nonsense.
A lot of the reason they had staffing problems had to do with the city and the police union not being able to agree on a contract, which made it more difficult to recruit new cadets.
If you're a potential recruit and the department can't tell you what the contract with the city looks like, you might be more interested in talking to a different police department before you make a decision.
They recently got that contract issue squared away, and the prediction is that within two years, they'll be staffed at normal levels.
What Alex is doing there is just legitimately racist propaganda.
Jose Garza has absolutely never said that he isn't going to prosecute crimes committed against white people.
This is just from Alex's racist fucking imagination.
And it's disgusting.
jordan holmes
I mean, what if he said it one time, though?
Like, let's say, okay, let's say Jose Garza comes out and he's like, Fuck it.
I'm never prosecuting a black person that murders a white person again.
dan friesen
And then leaves.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't even know if he was telling the truth.
He could just say that shit.
There's nothing anybody could do about it.
dan friesen
I almost guarantee someone would kill him immediately.
jordan holmes
Would there be a backlash?
Do you think there would be a backlash?
dan friesen
From people like Alex, maybe.
jordan holmes
I can see that they might not be happy about that.
But here's the thing.
They've already said he said it, so why not say it?
What are they going to say?
He said it?
dan friesen
You wouldn't say it because it's bad to say it.
jordan holmes
Sure, but now you can say it.
Because they already said you said it.
dan friesen
You don't want to say it.
jordan holmes
But maybe you should.
Maybe have a little fun.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Maybe you're at your Christmas party.
dan friesen
I have a vision of leadership that is higher than trolling.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And that's what we're running up against here, I think.
jordan holmes
Fair, fair, fair.
dan friesen
So Alex starts talking about the LA fires and how they were all set on purpose.
unidentified
All of them.
dan friesen
It was all weather control and globalists setting fires and all that.
And I don't really care about that.
We've talked about it a bit in the past and it's nonsense.
But Alex starts making metaphors and it goes off track really fast.
alex jones
And I'm glad Mel Gibson's going around now pointing this out and saying it's deliberate.
You bet your ass it's criminal negligence.
That means on purpose.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't.
alex jones
I didn't burn my house down on purpose for the insurance money.
I just left the burner on high with full grease, baking grease, and forgot about it and went to the store to get a pack of cigarettes or a lottery ticket.
Oh, and my house burned down.
That's called criminal...
Negligence.
Oh, I didn't drown my baby.
I just put the six-month-old out by the pool and forgot about him.
Oh, I didn't shoot the neighborhood kids.
I just invited them over for a free cake and then laid loaded off-safety shotguns around.
Oh, I didn't kill anybody in that house.
I just...
Got a trained monkey.
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
And I handed it a hand grenade.
It's trained to hold the hand grenade for 60 seconds and let it go.
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
I just put the monkey on the front door.
jordan holmes
Where do you get these monkeys?
alex jones
I went and got my truck and drove off.
They opened the door.
The monkey drops the hand grenade.
jordan holmes
What happens to the monkey?
alex jones
Your honor, I didn't blow up those people with a hand grenade on purpose.
I just gave a live hand grenade with a pin pulled to a monkey.
dan friesen
What's happening?
jordan holmes
What just happened there?
dan friesen
So I think that the burning your house down for insurance money, that metaphor makes sense.
jordan holmes
Close.
dan friesen
Close to making sense.
Leaving your baby unguarded around a pool.
jordan holmes
On the edge.
dan friesen
Sure, but there were PSAs about that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like I was high.
jordan holmes
Don't sit on the couch.
You'll be like, ah, and then your baby dies.
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Totally get it.
dan friesen
I understand this is something, this is an...
Alex probably shouldn't...
Use the example of the guns, because he's such a Second Amendment guy.
He probably should just veer away from that.
jordan holmes
That one is his trouble.
dan friesen
The monkey one is insane.
jordan holmes
That's absolutely insane.
dan friesen
You've got a trained monkey who knows to hold a grenade for 60 seconds and then drop it.
jordan holmes
It raises so many more questions that need to be answered far before we ever get to, did you try and kill those people?
dan friesen
It's so specific.
jordan holmes
I don't even give a shit about those people.
I'm sorry that they exploded.
That's terrible.
Why did you train this monkey like this?
What do you have against these kids?
What's going on with you that you're like, this is how I do it, that you won't see that the training part makes it your fault?
dan friesen
Well, or you just know exactly guy who trains monkeys.
jordan holmes
Okay, but getting a trained monkey for the express purpose of murdering these children is your fault.
unidentified
It's criminal criminal-ness.
dan friesen
Sure.
So is leaving the guns out with no safety on.
jordan holmes
Right, but that, see...
dan friesen
Actually, Alex can't believe that.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
See, leaving the guns out with no safety on.
unidentified
You can't believe that's negligent.
jordan holmes
And that implies that there's no choice but for the kids to inevitably murder each other with the guns.
So that's like...
But you didn't buy the monkey.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Maybe you're borrowing the monkey.
Let me talk you through my imagination.
jordan holmes
Let's hear this.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So your guy, very cool, has grenades.
jordan holmes
I'm feeling it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I've got a little zhuzh in me from my grenade holding it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Maybe he likes to wear retro clothes, you know, has a sense of style.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm just trying to flesh out this character.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I like it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I'm living.
dan friesen
You know a guy who has a monkey that they trained to drop a coconut after 60 seconds.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you think to yourself...
Wouldn't it be funny if it was a grenade instead of a coconut?
jordan holmes
In a way, you got chocolated by peanut butter.
dan friesen
This one is not negligence.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
It's on purpose.
You have to do it on purpose.
dan friesen
There's a lot of affirmative steps that you need to take.
jordan holmes
Yes.
It's so very much your fault.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Is this a plot of a movie?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't think so.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I've never heard the, I've trained this monkey to hold onto a thing for a length of time.
dan friesen
I think Alex drank some cough syrup the night before and was watching The Specialist.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then it flipped over to Any Which Way But Loose.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He got monkey and bombs mixed.
jordan holmes
This raises an excellent point.
This raises an excellent point.
What is he dreaming about these days?
And is it being ignored?
No, I mean, Gene Hackman's already dead.
dan friesen
He's dreaming about monkey bombs.
jordan holmes
Right?
This is what I'm saying.
Should we be more concerned about monkey bombs now that we know that his dreams can cause the murder of Gene Hackman?
dan friesen
Monkey bone?
More like monkey bombs.
jordan holmes
Boom!
That's Brendan Fraser.
dan friesen
Catan.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Also Catan.
jordan holmes
No, it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, look, this is silly and stupid, but I enjoyed it.
jordan holmes
I enjoyed it.
dan friesen
We all need a little break every now and again.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because sometimes this stuff is a little too serious like this.
alex jones
You know, I am shell-shocked by Jamie White's murder.
Our reporter.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
I, uh, I, I'm tough.
I got a lot of stuff going on.
I can handle a lot of things.
The crew's tough, too, but I have had a stomach ache since I learned he got killed yesterday.
And, uh, my stomach ache is so bad, I'm drooling right now.
You know, when your stomach ache's hurting so bad, you got salivating.
And the feeling is anger.
And my body, my brain, is saying punish people.
unidentified
Because...
alex jones
As I originally thought, just gut level, it would be a Soros letting criminals out of jail, these gangs they just let run wild, and that Jamie ran into them robbing his car.
But then you got...
Ukraine saying he's on the enemy's list, and we want to kill the people that are on these lists.
They said that subsequently on national television.
We played the clips years ago when this happened.
I was surprised he got singled out, but he was really pointing out USAID and Soros with documents, because they were worried that might move up the chain, and Trump might think about it, Musk might think about it, so that's what we do.
dan friesen
I think that's a really interesting clip because, in effect, what Alex is saying is that he has a lot of feelings about this tragic thing that's just happened to someone near him, and it's causing physical distress.
He has to deal with that, but the only real way he knows how to deal with this grief and pain is to find someone to blame.
He says quite literally that he's feeling a drive that he needs to punish someone.
I believe that really is how his brain works.
This loss of his friend and co-worker is painful to a level that he refuses to acknowledge, and the way to distract your brain from having to process those feelings is to turn them into something else, something more familiar.
For Alex, blame is familiar, and so is exploitation.
What you hear in that clip is him expressing two main things.
One, he needs to blame someone for this murder because he will not deal with it as a random tragedy.
And two, he needs to find which person he benefits the most from blaming.
You can hear him saying that his instinct is to blame the Travis County DA and make this a big they're soft on crime thing, but he's kind of thinking that maybe the Ukraine angle is stronger.
It's almost as if he's sitting there looking at a menu, trying to figure out what he can afford.
He has a certain amount of tragedy to spend, and he knows that he could get the soft-on-crime story to stick.
That one's cheap, but he's doing the math, trying to figure out if international assaults Yeah.
And make this about...
The info war, he's talking about how he has a stomach ache.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, like, this isn't about him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is gross.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, you could start by saying, like, ah, we need to support his family, or just bring a casserole.
dan friesen
He does promote their give-send-go later in the episode, so it's not like there's no voice given to them or anything, but the attempt to own it is really...
I think the instinct and the impulse is terrifying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think, you know what's crazy about it?
It's reminding me of, I read that book about the Cuban cartel, the Falcone family and that kind of stuff.
And at one point, I don't remember who, but one of the wives of the top people was at a mall and then was murdered in just a random attack.
Like, just a random theft.
And then was murdered.
And it's like, this is the wife of the top member of a cartel.
And so there's a whole, like, everybody searching.
Who could have done this?
What is going on?
Is this related to this family?
Is this related to that family?
And it really is.
Everybody just keeps coming back with.
Nope.
It was just random.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And there's just that...
dan friesen
That's the terrifying piece of random.
jordan holmes
Right.
But there's no way for your brain to really wrestle with that if you're in a cartel of known murder people all the time, right?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So it's that desire to make a reason even if there isn't one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is so hard to overcome.
dan friesen
Yeah, like Bill Gates could win the lottery.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it would be random.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's how it works.
Yeah.
What I feel like is Alex is trying to make his own Seth Rich kind of storyline, and I just, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I don't see any reason not to use the tragic murder of somebody for your own personal monetary gain at this point, if I'm Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, for sure.
I just disrespect it.
jordan holmes
I hate it.
dan friesen
So I feel like Alex is...
He's fundamentally incapable of talking about any of the human feelings that he's having.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But in this clip, you can hear him start on that kind of page and then kind of become animated as he drifts into nonsense.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Jamie did not have a firearm.
That we were told by the family.
The police have told them everything they know so far this morning.
unidentified
So...
alex jones
And we should get the sister or the dad on if they want to come on.
So please have Adon call them and see if they'd like to do that.
It's hard to talk about.
As soon as I'm able to get my bearings here, I'll give you all the information and then move on to all the news.
But it's really just...
to be under assault by the left who administratively are destroying society on purpose, burning us down on purpose, flooding us with fentanyl on purpose, trying to sabotage us, trying to fix society, burning up hundreds of Tesla facilities.
It's hundreds now they've attacked.
Shooting them up, burning them, all up, cocktailing.
Can you imagine if conservatives did this to one place, it'd be the end of the world.
jordan holmes
And we shouldn't.
alex jones
Actually, I can.
dan friesen
So you can see in that clip that Alex is kind of, there's a struggle to convey human thoughts about his friend and longtime employee's death.
When he starts to have the fun demonizing stuff, the ball begins to roll.
There haven't been hundreds of attacks on Tesla dealerships.
According to a rundown in Newsweek, there were 13, two of which were outside of the United States.
And it would be a stretch to call all of them attacks, since most of them were simple vandalism, like people drawing swastikas on cars.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But yeah, Alex, he's walking through knee-high mud when he's trying to talk about this, and then...
He breaks free.
Right.
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
I'm...
Okay.
Let me...
I have a question, alright?
So, the swastika on the car is meant to signal the guy who does the car is a Nazi, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Among certain people, it might raise its MSRP.
jordan holmes
Right, but I mean, like, here's the...
Okay.
It feels a little bit...
Weird to me, because it'd be like going to a Klan member's house and then putting a burning cross on his lawn, where it's like, wait, isn't this your guys' thing?
Or wait, who's doing what now?
We gotta be clear on...
Because if you put a swastika on a Jewish person's car, nah, very different message.
Very different message, right?
We've got to be clear with our symbolism here.
dan friesen
Well, I think that putting the swastika on there is an attempt to say, like, this is a Nazi car, this guy's a Nazi.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And I, you know, I think that the message to me is fairly clear, but also I think you run the risk of making it more appealing to some people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is unfortunate, and it's a sign of...
Bad times that we live in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, you know, you put a burning cross on a Klan member's yard, he's like, oh, all my friends came.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
They're here to...
dan friesen
Send me some trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
We're going to have a barbecue.
dan friesen
Gas in this economy?
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
I'm not going to pay to burn a cross.
It's a freebie.
So I think that Alex, on some level...
However subconscious it may be.
Recognizes that this is a pretty gross thing to do.
Sure.
To take this death of one of his employees and turn it into Ukraine killed them.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
At least this soon.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He is capable of it.
Like two weeks from now you just assume that he doesn't give a fuck at all.
But this soon.
dan friesen
I think he has to.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I feel like this next scope is a little bit of rationalization.
alex jones
My original.
My instinct would be that he came upon people breaking in his car.
He did not have a gun.
Police told his family that.
We've talked to them.
And whoever it was shot him through the arm like his arm was up.
unidentified
Shot.
alex jones
And then it went through his neck and out the backside.
Then he got killed by hitting his carotid artery.
That's why there was so much blood everywhere.
Now, could have been a Ukrainian or NATO murder.
He was on that list.
I don't know that.
I really think if I'm going to send somebody over here to kill somebody, it'd probably be me.
But they put him on the list.
They were pissed at him.
He was doing original reporting on USAID money in Soros.
Soros doesn't just get you sued and indicted.
He was rounding up people for death camps when he was a teenager.
He's a mean hombre.
Servant of Satan.
But the statistic of millions of people in Austin, a couple million, and there's been eight murders so far this year, massive muggings and woundings and stabbings, but still too many.
But our reporter that's on a Ukrainian hit list, enemy's list, gets killed outside his apartment.
You have to look at it.
dan friesen
You kind of have to look at it.
jordan holmes
That does make sense.
dan friesen
No, you don't.
jordan holmes
Well, because where I'm sitting, right, Ukraine is at war.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So killing people is on the table, at the very least, right?
And he's an enemy combatant because he lives in America and wrote something for Infowars one time.
Now, if I'm Ukrainian, I'm thinking maybe priorities are in order here.
You know?
Like, maybe we've messed up.
Maybe we've got bigger fish to fry on the day.
dan friesen
Quite.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
So if Alex is telling me about this, I'm saying probably not.
I'm gonna go with no.
I'm probably gonna go with no.
dan friesen
I think that Alex also, like, you see the narcissism there of, like, I think if NATO is gonna kill someone, it'd be me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, your friend just died, and the instinct is almost to be like, well, he's not as important as me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That sucks.
unidentified
I think, isn't this...
jordan holmes
Fucking correct me if I'm wrong, but I do feel like didn't Colonel Travis literally write something in one of his letters that's almost identical to this of like, this guy died, but if anybody wanted to be killed who's important, they would have killed me, obviously.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I think he did.
I swear to God.
dan friesen
I don't remember all the letters, but I do know that checks out a little bit with the narcissism of Alex's hero.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, understandably, Alex has a tough time getting to the news, and I don't blame him.
I might have taken the day off if I were him.
Or, and I guarantee I would not cover an episode if, like, they were, like, let's all remember Jamie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, if they had had the employees come in and tell stories, I would never cover that.
jordan holmes
No, that's private.
dan friesen
I would think that that would be a respectful kind of tribute to this person.
And maybe that's what they should have done instead.
But Alex instead does this stuff, and he has just, like, a difficult time covering the news.
alex jones
It's hard for me to get to the news right now.
unidentified
Um.
Um.
alex jones
Obviously, we need to take what I've said here so far.
I'm going to finish up on Jamie.
And then I'm going to get to all the news.
Just take what I said at the start of the segment and put it together and we'll get out a statement.
unidentified
But.
Thank you.
alex jones
That's what happens when you defund the police.
And people know it.
dan friesen
So defund the police was a catchphrase that the right-wing media lost their mind over in like 2020, and they haven't stopped pretending that it actually happened ever since.
The idea was supposed to be that in all these blue cities, they slashed police budgets severely, and now crime is all on the rise everywhere.
Austin is a prime example of this, because they got that Soros DA, and that city is so goddamn globalist.
But it's all not true.
In the year 2019-2020, that fiscal year, the Austin Police Department General Fund operating budget was $434.5 million.
The next year, that budget dropped to $292.9 million, which represented a 32.6% decrease.
It was a $141 million drop, but what Alex and his ilk always fail to mention is that they also approved a $121 million, quote, transition budget that was added on top.
Which means that the decrease in police budget was closer to $20 million, and a lot of that can be explained by simple logistics, like the pandemic limiting their ability to run cadet training and shit like that.
The hope with this transition fund was to take many of the things that fell under the heading of the police department and contain them in a different or independent department.
For instance, the forensic staff didn't have to be under the police umbrella.
They could move that over here.
Or even 911, the call centers, didn't need to be the police.
There was a severe right-wing backlash to this, and folks in the media like Alex began to pretend that cities were just eliminating police departments, and in response to that pressure, the cities resumed giving the police departments tons of money.
Austin approved a budget of $443 million for 2021 to 2022, representing an increase from where it started in 2019.
In July 2024, the Austin City Council approved a budget for the next year which included a record $496 million for the police department.
Alex lives in Austin.
He has every reason to know that the police department hasn't been defunded, and in fact, their budget has been increased year over year.
This is just a pathetic attempt at politicizing the tragic death of his employee using false talking points because he's a, well, he's a piece of shit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
About it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, what else is there to say?
dan friesen
Well, I guess it's Soros' fault no matter what.
jordan holmes
Actually, that could be true.
alex jones
They're criminals.
They want foot soldiers, and they can tell their lawyer, who talks to the drug gang's lawyer, that's how they do it, and then they say, you know, this Republican or this cop is causing us a problem.
That's all they say.
Like in the wire?
To the gang leader who talks to his other leader.
jordan holmes
Like in the wire.
alex jones
And they might even hire another gang to do it.
They say, here is the person.
Just bump them.
jordan holmes
Oh, you mean like in the wire?
alex jones
That means rob them, threaten their life, threaten their family.
Sometimes they say, well, they didn't listen to that.
Make it look like a carjacking.
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
alex jones
So see, when you're a communist like Jose Garza, he knows all this.
He's got orders, the DA.
He's a communist here to overthrow America in his own admissions.
He wants the flag taken down.
Literally.
Now it's breaking.
Just broke.
Ten minutes ago.
Like I told you, Austin Police AM4's writer Jamie White possibly killed by car burglars.
So, Jose Garza.
Or was it Ukrainian hit team meant to look like car burglars?
Either way, it's Soros.
dan friesen
Either way, Soros' fault.
jordan holmes
Either way.
dan friesen
Whether it was his DA talking to drug gangs.
Telling them to hit Jamie White and make it look like a car.
Or if it was Ukraine talking to lawyers like The Wire.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Is...
Are those mutually exclusive, or do you think they were both trying at the same time, and then the drug gang lawyer was like, you are not going to fucking believe this, all right?
I have got on the other line Zelensky, right over here.
No, seriously, you're not going to believe this.
He is asking me, seriously, you're not going to believe this.
dan friesen
It's such a coincidence.
jordan holmes
It's J.B. White!
I know!
Crazy!
dan friesen
I've got a half-off special for both of you.
jordan holmes
Because I'm a drug gang lawyer.
dan friesen
And I like repeat business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So Alex does manage to get to some news, and some of it has to do with how Elon Musk, who moved to Texas, Austin, has been putting a lot of money into trying to get rid of Garza as the district attorney.
jordan holmes
Huh.
dan friesen
Not a fan of him.
Doing things like giving people millions of dollars to sign up to vote and what have you.
And Alex loves it.
alex jones
And then you got, you know, just in the stacks.
Stuff like this.
The Intercept.
Elon Musk quietly tried to oust a reformed DA.
Here's why he failed.
So, Musk is quietly, and I already knew about this, but it's been in the news.
All over the country, he's trying to get Soros DAs out that allow the crime sprees, the murder, all of it.
And then the media, the Intercept, talk about leftists.
They think, that's why they ousted the guy that created it who's a good guy, Glenn Greenwald.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Imagine writing an article like it's bad to try to...
Have petitions to get rid of Soros DAs.
But listen to this.
Like, this is how you take something good and honorable and noble and then you turn it into bad.
Listen to this.
unidentified
Elon Musk quietly tried to oust a reformed DA.
alex jones
a reformed DA, not a communist overthrow the country, Cloward and Pibbon person.
Here's why he failed.
Imagine having so much money that you can promise million dollar bribes to people who sign a petition supporting the first and second amendments.
Well, billionaire Musk actually did, flexing his considerable wealth to influence the election.
Yeah.
unidentified
So he spent millions of bucks.
alex jones
Yeah.
He gave them money.
My God, Elon Musk is trying to run people for office that are pro-gun and anti-criminal.
Man, he's bad.
Thank God the intercepts there.
Just these are really good.
You imagine sitting down to invert reality like this?
dan friesen
Alex should be intimately familiar with how it feels to sit down and invert reality.
It's been his job for 30 years, and he's engaging in exactly that with the Intercept article.
What Alex is saying isn't true, but it doesn't even really matter.
All that's important here is that Alex Jones, the man who hates corruption wherever it may rear its ugly head, likes what Elon Musk is doing because it's what he pretends Soros has been doing, but it's just aimed in the opposite direction.
Alex is supposed to know better than this, which is one of the ways you can tell that he's engaged in something here that supersedes his own political costume.
His career is built on yelling about how popular demagogues and unelected bureaucrats and billionaire international business people can't be trusted.
Soros says a lot of great stuff about democracy, but he's using his money behind the scenes for evil.
In any other scenario, Alex would say the same thing about Elon Musk.
It's absolutely the correct position for the person Alex pretends to be to have, and the fact that he acts like this just screams that something isn't right.
I don't know if it's a financial interest or the hope of a future financial interest or something else entirely, but Alex doesn't feel free.
Elon's out here giving out million dollar checks to people so they'll sign his petitions and vote how he wants them to, and Alex is just nodding along and saying that's what democracy is supposed to look like.
It's insane based on the premise of his career, and he has to know that.
So either I believe that at some point he secretly gave up on the idea of democracy and just decided not to tell the audience, or he has some reason to think that his career could not sustain going against Musk.
If I had to guess, I would say that he thinks that once the bankruptcy stuff is resolved and he's operating out of this new fake company, then Elon can come shower him with money and his problems will go away.
I have no idea if Alex should have any reason to think that might happen, but it feels like he knows that that's his only shot.
And that he knows that he only can tread water because he's on Twitter, and Elon Musk has the power to take that away.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just, I feel like he feels, like, it's belly of the whale shit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's stuck.
He can't get out of this whale.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Here's a question I have for you, alright?
So you get a million dollars from Elon Musk for whatever it is this is.
Then what?
You know, like...
You figure taxes, you gotta have somebody who handles all that stuff.
You're not taking home, like, the rest of my life is completely different.
dan friesen
I think it would have to be way more than a million dollars.
jordan holmes
Right.
So you do that, then you, like, go to work, and you just have all this money, and then people are like, is it your, like, two truths and a lie question?
Like, hey, I took a million dollars from Elon Musk.
What happens?
Are they okay?
Are they fine?
Have they thrown their lives?
Have you heard those stories about people who won the lottery and then, like, it ruined their lives?
Is this happening?
Should we follow along with these people, Dan?
dan friesen
No.
I think that Alex, if I had to guess, like, stripping a lot of shit away that may or may not be surface-level costuming, I think that Alex really, really wants to just be a prophet.
And he wants to be able to be on the air pretending to make predictions that other people he feels like they listen to.
Right.
And, you know, a certain livelihood is important and you gotta have a lot of money because he likes being rich.
But, like, if Elon Musk could just somehow make sure that he never has to stop being...
Playhouse prophet?
I think that he would take that.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
Okay.
So here's the question, alright?
Does Alex care about the money, or does he want to just have a church?
You know what I mean?
Like, if he didn't have to think about the money, if somebody was just like...
dan friesen
I don't think he wants to be in a broke church.
jordan holmes
Right, no, for sure.
But somebody like Elon Musk going, I'll pay for your church forever.
You never have to think about money.
But he still wants the numbers money, right?
He still wants to see the number go up.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he still wants the things that money makes available to you.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think it's both.
But I think at the end of the day, if someone could guarantee him, like, you get to play act for the rest of your life.
jordan holmes
I mean, hey, there's worse guarantees in life.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
Elon Musk could set up a trust for, like, $10 million to fund info wars or something like that.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's a bad idea.
You can't allow him to have it up front.
He's not good with money, clearly.
He's going to spend it on a tank.
dan friesen
And if I were Elon Musk, what I would do is I would say, like, all right.
You can do this.
I will fund you forever.
unidentified
But you have to wear a silly hat.
dan friesen
And you can never mention it.
jordan holmes
How many concessions do you think you can extract for how much money?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
Like, is one of the concessions the silly hat?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your first concession is the silly hat, right?
What if he gives you some pushback on there?
How much more?
Are you going to go higher, or is it just silly hat or none?
dan friesen
No, take the deal or not.
jordan holmes
All right, so once he agrees to the deal.
dan friesen
He has no power in this negotiation.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm saying.
Once he agrees to the deal, are you going to make him wear another hat?
dan friesen
He has to wear the same hat.
Right.
Probably, uh, maybe the Jughead crown from Archie Comics.
jordan holmes
Alright, are you gonna make him wear a pinky ring, too?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, just gonna leave a hat.
Ah, you don't know how to exploit people who are crazy captured.
dan friesen
I think it would be an interesting psychological experiment to have Alex forced to wear a hat and never explain it.
jordan holmes
Uh, I don't think it would...
Well, I mean, in the sense that he would immediately explain it.
dan friesen
No, he couldn't, because then the deal is null and void.
jordan holmes
Right.
So then the deal would be null and void.
There's the experiment.
The deal is null and void immediately.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
He would put the hat on and be like, I can't believe I'm going to wear this hat to a green...
Ah, shit!
And it'd be over.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's one possibility.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
The other possibility is he wears a hat for a long time and a bunch of conspiracies pop up about why he's wearing that.
jordan holmes
It's very possible.
It is possible.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Whatever happened to that skull and stuff he had on his desk?
dan friesen
The checkerboard pattern of the floor is a riddle.
It was his dad's skull.
Not his dad's actual skull.
jordan holmes
It's not his dad's skull, but his dad's Yorick.
dan friesen
So, Alex, as he is trying to process the grief of losing a friend, he decides that he must sort of endorse vigilantism.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
alex jones
I live in, like, some grand theft auto world down here in Austin.
jordan holmes
Or the world.
alex jones
People say, why are you still there?
This is where the building is and the crew and my family.
But I'll be honest with you.
That's what I always do.
People ask what some children really think.
Oh, you get it all.
I don't talk that much when I'm out on air.
I've been thinking about vigilantism.
I'm not saying go do it.
I'm not saying I'm going to do it.
But we crossed the line a long time ago here.
They crossed it.
unidentified
They crossed it.
alex jones
We got the surveillance footage.
I think we played it.
Rex is like 21 now.
Hell, 22. My kids are getting old.
He was in a convenience store like 10 o 'clock at night a few years ago, and some crazy homeless person was assaulting people and smashing things.
And, you know, Rex was restrained, but he knocked the guy out.
And one part of me was proud of him, but also said, Son...
Now, I sound like grandparents, but I got, you know...
I'm like, why don't you not be out at 10 o 'clock at night in Austin?
Because you could have got shot or stabbed.
And the guy started screaming, you're a racist, Black Lives Matter, all this stuff was a black guy.
There's drooling, crazy black people, Hispanics, whites, they're all out there.
I mean, it's like zombies, folks.
You've seen it.
unidentified
And...
It's really true.
alex jones
Until we've taken our cities back, you've got to be in a bunker mentality.
You should not be out at night.
Even the good areas get robbed now.
And if you're going to be out, you better have a gun and you better be watching what you're doing and you better be ready to use it.
dan friesen
This is the mark of someone who is not out late.
jordan holmes
You know what I've never heard an old white man say?
I've been thinking a lot about vigilantism.
dan friesen
Not good!
jordan holmes
Never heard him say the not good part.
It's always been like, you ever hear about Charles Bronson?
I'm very pro-vigilantism whenever it pops up out of the blue from an old white man.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Bernie Carrick had some good points.
jordan holmes
Very few times do I hear like, here's the problem with...
Batman is that he needs to spend his wealth on...
Never mind.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
These thoughts.
Not healthy.
They're not indicative of what it's like after 10 p.m.
jordan holmes
There are very few things...
Yeah.
Yep.
Agreed.
dan friesen
Very sad.
We have to take back our cities.
I've been thinking about vigilantism.
jordan holmes
How many years are we going to have to have to take back our cities for?
dan friesen
Forever, probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's going to be a while.
dan friesen
So Alex has some things to say about this district attorney, Garza.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And they're not true.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
Yeah, assistant district attorney resigns from Jose Garza's office after being asked to delete evidence.
That was four years ago.
Why isn't his fat, ugly ass indicted?
Yeah, he lets child rapists out.
Grabbing kids, raping them, and it's okay.
Oh, what's on his laptop?
And we just take it and take it and take it.
We're going to go to break.
I'm going to start the main show now.
I'm going to come back and go through news and clips, and it's all important.
I just wanted to talk about how these people...
jordan holmes
Are we just now starting the show?
alex jones
...and how funny they think it is.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
I'm just telling you, these people got a death wish.
All of them.
dan friesen
Bronson.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep.
alex jones
They're assaulting us through the system.
And thank God for Trump and thank God for Elon.
Can you believe there's all these articles demonizing and calling it criminal for an American citizen to spend his money to fight tyranny?
It takes money to beat these people.
That's why I need your support.
It's the last day of the super...
Deal.
All the regular sales that are there that are huge, and on top of it, when you check out, you use DOGE promo code, D-O-G, and get $10 off.
dan friesen
Yeah, DOGE is a promo code for Alex now.
jordan holmes
I think America's going great.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think it's doing good.
dan friesen
That's pathetic.
jordan holmes
Stay the course, folk.
dan friesen
So, Jose Garza wasn't indicted about this thing that Alex brought up because he didn't do anything wrong and there wasn't a crime committed.
Mostly due to the fact that the assistant DA wasn't asked to delete any evidence.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
So this lawyer was asked to delete some emails from the DA's office case management system.
This is a computer database that's meant to allow people to access information about various cases, but this lawyer was misusing it to send scheduling emails with a victim.
Right.
As Garza explained, The emails in question were attached to a court filing, and a fair amount of them are actually about how this conversation was happening in the wrong place and how they should remove them.
The attorney in question didn't want to delete the emails, so she resigned.
There's no indication that she was asked to delete anything that would constitute evidence, and in fact, evidence has been presented that what she was asked to delete were scheduling emails.
Point here is that Alex has no familiarity with the stories he covers.
It's all just seeing a headline and then making up a story about it.
It's a real dumb piece of shit.
But we got a good sale going on.
I would have enjoyed that.
jordan holmes
I would have enjoyed that hearing.
Just like getting to the bottom of that.
Yeah, let me show you the email.
Should we be having this email?
No.
Should this be in this thing?
We should probably delete it from the database.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Well, I guess we'll delete it then.
No problems.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Why'd she quit?
Ah, she just really hated that guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I think that probably, you know, you end up quitting because it's more of a personal, like, I don't like this workplace.
jordan holmes
I read some of his emails about how we should delete it, and I think he's a prick, so I quit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex, he says there, Dan, you know, like, Musk, why would you demonize him for spending money for liberty?
jordan holmes
He's spending his own money to fight tyranny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so around this time, Trump had done what amounts to a commercial for Tesla in front of the White House.
Sure.
And it was pretty gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Honestly, he did a whole tweeting out or socialing out about the gotta buy Tesla because all these people are attacking Tesla.
jordan holmes
What do I gotta do to get you in a Tesla today?
dan friesen
The president of the United States had essentially become a car salesman.
jordan holmes
Bottom line.
dan friesen
And it was pretty tacky and I think people did not enjoy it.
Some people did.
jordan holmes
If I was buying a car from the president.
I would be very frustrated if the president was like, I don't know if I can do that price.
I'm going to have to go talk to my manager real quick.
And then went into the other room.
dan friesen
And Elon was in there?
jordan holmes
Yeah, buddy.
You're the one who's supposed to be able to make this choice here.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a little sad.
But Alex loved it.
jordan holmes
Of course he did.
dan friesen
He loves that Trump is advertising for Tesla.
Good stuff.
alex jones
And now you've got Tesla dealerships, hundreds of attacks being torched, shot up, owners being targeted.
President Trump saying last night what I said during the show.
I said...
You need to buy Tesla stock.
It's an information war.
It's a financial war.
They're trying to terrorize people.
They can take down Tesla.
They can take down anybody else.
You'll be the next target.
And I said, you need to buy a Tesla product.
I already made the decision three weeks ago because they were targeting Tesla.
It's ramped up.
I said, the next giveaway after the Jeep and the Bronco will be...
A Tesla Cybertruck.
We have it.
It's black.
jordan holmes
We drew a swastika on it for you.
Pre-swastika.
alex jones
And it's got a 1776 American flag.
I posted it on X today.
We got to show that, please.
dan friesen
So yeah, Trump is advertising for Tesla, telling people they should buy Tesla stock, and Alex is getting in on it by raffling off a car, another car.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
dan friesen
This is pathetic.
jordan holmes
It's not great.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's not where I was expecting to be.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's such a joke of, like, where his career trajectory should have gone.
Like, I mean, Bill Cooper went how he went.
jordan holmes
That's the only way to go, really.
dan friesen
Alex is trying to sell, raffle off a fucking cyber truck.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What a pathetic dork.
jordan holmes
It makes me wish that Bill Cooper was still alive.
dan friesen
We could have learned the lesson that that is the inevitable road that he probably would have ended up going down.
jordan holmes
That's what I would have liked.
I would have liked the two of them side by side as we go down this same track record together.
dan friesen
They're competing about who can sell more Teslas.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, I thought that the way that Alex was engaging with Jamie White's murder was bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I thought it was disrespectful, distasteful.
But it escalates a little bit.
And Alex...
She starts to try and suggest that maybe it was an attempt on his life.
jordan holmes
That sounds true.
alex jones
Armies of scum who believe they're part of the power structure and they've been turned loose to wreak havoc on us with the Soros DAs.
So whether it was the Soros DAs creating this crime spree environment, the police said that that's what they believe it is, or whether they sent some hit team here and...
Waited to think I was leaving, but I didn't do the show that day.
I was up here and worked out in the afternoon, did some work, talked to Jamie, left, followed him, went to see his girlfriend, goes home, kill him in the parking lot.
I mean, I don't know.
The Ukrainians like to kill a lot of people.
Tried to kill Trump in Mar-a-Lago.
They're suspects.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're suspects.
jordan holmes
All Ukrainians.
dan friesen
And Alex has inserted himself into the story now.
The hit team was, they maybe thought they were following him, but he didn't do the show that day.
And so they killed Jamie thinking that it was Alex.
jordan holmes
He just narrowly escaped with his life.
dan friesen
God, it was close.
jordan holmes
It's like those people who canceled their flight on 9-11, you know?
And you're like, what?
dan friesen
What an amazingly competent and incompetent hit team Alex is imagining.
jordan holmes
There is a little aspect of Magoo-iness to them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And there's an element of Alex just not being able to experience this without making it about himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's really dark.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean...
I find it interesting that there's still a crew around him.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, if I'm working there, watching this, I'm going, like, well, this is what'll happen to me, obviously.
If I die for any reason, he's going to do this to me.
dan friesen
Shit just got real.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think what's interesting about that is that that day is, like, the absolute compact of, like, you have now agreed to let Alex do this to you.
Right?
dan friesen
Or, well...
jordan holmes
Like, if you continue working there, you know what he's gonna do, so you've agreed.
dan friesen
I feel like the agreement is you dipping a little bit too much into, like, the idea of the existence of cosmic law, or whatever, but I think that it is the line where there isn't a plausible argument to be made that, I didn't think he would do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
You know what you're getting into.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know if you're agreeing to it, but you have every reason to know that you are, you're a mortal...
Or your mortal soul.
jordan holmes
Whatever you like.
dan friesen
Is a prop for Alex to use.
And that's tough.
Yeah.
That's tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, if he does it to you at that point, it's your fault.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's your fault, but you certainly had this off-ramp here that should illustrate to you this is what's going to happen.
jordan holmes
Nope, just going to keep operating the boom.
dan friesen
And then Alex will make it about himself.
alex jones
Okay, so here's your headline.
Ukrainian government put Elon Musk on an enemy's hit list with Infowars reporter Jamie White, who was killed execution-style Sunday night.
Alex Jones is calling for a Department of Justice investigation.
Alex Jones is calling for the head of national intelligence to investigate this.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
dan friesen
I really want to put your name forward here about how you're calling for these investigations.
And you're leading the headline with Elon Musk is on this list.
And I'm going to sensationalize my employee's murder in order to make it look like Elon's next.
He has to make this about himself and Elon.
It's grotesque.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the only thing that's unfortunate is that Jamie White has his own name.
It would be a lot easier if it was just already Elon Musk, so we wouldn't even have to pretend that he's included as a person in this whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just about Elon and Alex, so...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sorry, bud.
dan friesen
And, you know, this continues on with Alex trying to sort of softly massage the idea that maybe it was supposed to be him into this.
alex jones
Have you even heard Elon talk about being on this list?
I bet he doesn't even know.
And I know inside baseball that there have been a bunch of people coming to town recently trying to get him.
Nobody knows that.
unidentified
Nobody knows that.
alex jones
Yep, the CIA is excited to announce our return to South by Southwest.
That was this weekend.
Last week.
Why is the CIA doing it by Southwest?
And that was this weekend.
They announced it on the 3rd.
Recruiting, mostly.
Yeah, right.
Oh, the Democrats and Ukrainian funding and parties and balls and the CIA's in town.
I just so happened to not do the show Sunday because I'd been at the shooting range with my daddy.
jordan holmes
Gross.
alex jones
And then I went and lifted weights with my dad here.
And then I went home to my family.
Well, Jamie tried to go home, but you know what happened.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
Just repulsive.
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
Holy shit!
dan friesen
Also, the CIA was there because they weren't there recruiting.
It's a tech conference as well.
South by Southwest, there's a lot of pieces to it.
Where they're given a presentation.
jordan holmes
Or they were there to murder Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably there to murder Alex.
jordan holmes
On behalf of the Ukrainian.
dan friesen
Under the guise of Ukrainian balls and fundraisers.
jordan holmes
And Democrat lawyers.
dan friesen
And if only they knew that Alex wasn't there on Sunday night.
jordan holmes
Poor guys.
With all of their technology, you know, them being the CIA and all.
dan friesen
Who actually Trump is in charge of now.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Well, it's rogue elements of the CIA.
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Rogue elements of the CIA.
dan friesen
That evergreen excuse.
jordan holmes
See, the problem is they're just...
dan friesen
Ultra green.
jordan holmes
See, they're too competent to let go, ever.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They're rogue, but, I mean, they're just so good at getting results.
You know, you can take their guns and their badges, but they're going to get the results that you want.
Right?
So you've got them.
And, unfortunately, they had a phone error.
There we go.
Alex gets away.
And they're never going to be able to try it again because they already did it.
There's never going to be as good a cover as the CIA is going to South by Southwest ever again.
dan friesen
Right.
Except for the CIA went to South by Southwest last year also.
jordan holmes
Not important.
What's important is it will never happen again.
This cover is blown!
dan friesen
This is just gross.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, not good.
dan friesen
So Alex starts to rant a bit about how he's a psychic.
jordan holmes
Sounds true.
dan friesen
And I think that this is fun.
alex jones
And I don't just see something I think is going to happen and then I see news and make it fit to that.
No, I'm looking at it all.
And because I don't care about being proven right, I care about actually being right and then getting so right, people finally listen at a scalable level to stop enemy operations and we're finally getting there.
I've explained this for decades.
I've got to make enough of these predictions for you and show you the full mapping I've got that it's getting better and better.
And then so enough people listen so that we can stop them.
dan friesen
So I don't want to say this for sure, but if Alex had showed up at Gene Heckman's house out of the blue, having never met him just in time to save Heckman's wife because God told him to go to Santa Fe, I might go ahead and believe that Alex is a psychic.
Obviously, there could be some other explanations, but it would be a pretty serious mindfuck.
jordan holmes
I mean, it'd fuck me up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
As far as I can tell, that's what God wanted him to do.
Go to Gene Hackman's house for no reason except because I told you to, so the world will believe you're a prophet.
jordan holmes
Faith.
dan friesen
When Alex says that he needs to keep making these predictions so that people will believe he's a prophet, this is a prime example of God trying to make that happen, and Alex doubted.
Alex proved himself unworthy of God's visions, because after 50 years of preparation and who knows how many clock-based magic tricks, Alex crumbled when the call came in.
It's super easy to be a prophet after the fact, because it's really just about scamming people.
He's running a religious scam on this audience, presenting himself as a divinely inspired prophet, and I think in that clip...
He doth protest too much.
When he said at the beginning, I don't just find stories and make them fit my worldview.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what.
unidentified
Yes, you do.
dan friesen
That's exactly what you do.
You're self-conscious about it.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what.
If there's anything I know about God and the way he handles business like this, we're in a clear Samson situation.
So here's how Alex can prove he's still psychic, and I will believe him.
This is what has to happen.
Somebody.
If we see a headline about that 100% different.
He has to...
Well, I mean, Samson's situation, it's going to be on his doorstep.
So Alex doesn't survive this.
It's his last act as a person to be proven correct about his dreams having psychic powers.
dan friesen
The monkey would have showed up next door if he had saved Gene Heckman.
jordan holmes
Oh my god!
It would have been amazing!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It would have been a miracle!
Literally!
dan friesen
Oh, lass.
He should have saved Gene Heckman.
jordan holmes
I mean, god...
Damn it!
How do you really believe that?
And, man, that would fuck me up forever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Forever!
dan friesen
Yeah, but I think what I find so interesting is, like, in that clip, he's essentially wanting the end result of having gone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He wants the end result of having lived his faith.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But in reality, he denied his faith.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He did not act out of faith.
He acted in a scammy way.
Right.
But he still wants the credit.
He still wants the image of the guy who did go and show up at Heckman's house.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I wonder if there's something to be said about faith being able to move mountains being an issue.
Because he has far too much faith if he's just willing to be like, actually, I think I did do it.
I think I believe I did do it.
dan friesen
Faith should be able to move mountains, but it can't get Alex to go to Santa Fe.
jordan holmes
That's an issue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But it can get him to believe that he already went to Santa Fe.
dan friesen
And even if he didn't, it's almost like he did because he thought, maybe I should.
jordan holmes
And he said it on air, so he's proved it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Thank God.
dan friesen
Great.
So the opposite of God is the devil.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Who Alex works for.
alex jones
Debatable.
dan friesen
I think there's some compelling evidence.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But in this next clip, he does not like...
Satan.
Oh.
And then he makes a funny transition.
alex jones
Okay.
We are trailblazing with God's spirit.
We are the vanguard.
Satan is behind us in the dust.
You want to be far away from the devil.
Your spiritual goal is to remove your spirit as far away from that energy and as close to God's energy as possible.
That is the great goal.
jordan holmes
I've been thinking about vigilantism recently.
alex jones
That is the compendium of existence.
While you were given free will, it is everything.
It is not the number one thing.
It is the only thing.
The only thing.
The only thing is your choice with your free will to be with God or the devil.
That's it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Everything boils down to that alone.
And look what Satan has to offer.
Evil, dominating, hurting people.
Being hurt.
What's God give us?
Everything good.
jordan holmes
Like the Powerpuff Girls.
unidentified
Like the Powerpuff Girls.
alex jones
Back to egg prices.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
Ranting about the devil.
Log paws.
jordan holmes
Back to egg prices.
dan friesen
Let's talk eggs.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
dan friesen
This is so dumb.
This guy's an idiot.
jordan holmes
Okay, so instead of the hat, I say he gets hit with a beach ball every...
68 seconds, and then every 69 seconds, and then every 70 seconds, so he can never exactly time it out and get comfortable with it.
dan friesen
Here's another option like that.
Make him sit in a dunk tank, but never throw any balls at it.
So he's just sitting there.
jordan holmes
So he's just uncomfortable.
dan friesen
He's on a little board, which is never comfortable to begin with, but then there is the looming threat that at any point he could be dunked.
jordan holmes
But it will never come.
Or will it?
dan friesen
He doesn't know that.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We know that it's never coming.
jordan holmes
The uncertainty is the true torture.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Right.
Question.
Dangle your toes in the water?
Can't touch the water.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Can't touch.
jordan holmes
Can't touch the water.
So he's so close to just getting some sort of relief for his dry skin, but he just can't reach, otherwise he'd fall all the way in.
dan friesen
Right.
And I think that that, like, tension of, like...
I might get dunked at any second.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I really do think that that would put a little bit of a dent in his ability to take himself seriously.
jordan holmes
It would be hard.
dan friesen
And I think that would be fun.
jordan holmes
Especially if he's forced to wear an old Jansen bathing suit.
dan friesen
I think everyone was assuming that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So Alex yells a bit about Podesta.
John Podesta has his battle plan that was...
Printed the war games, a social collapse, and all that.
And then he says something that I think is really, really funny, which is that he does not fetishize violence.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
That'd be crazy.
alex jones
People are like, God, Jones predicted it again, and they're starting it.
I didn't predict it.
It's in the damn battle plan from Podesta!
You know, if I was the head of a major political party, and I'm in the New York Times wargaming, state seceding, and violence in the streets, that's terrorism.
That's not free speech.
That's organizing insurrection.
You got free speech all day, but when you want to overthrow a government, overthrow an election, overthrow the voters, and enslave us like they do everywhere else, canceling elections and torturing people to death and everything, that's what they want to do here.
We got to be careful not to take the gloves off too much and have it spun the other way, but we're in a war now, okay?
And I'm not somebody that fetishizes, you know, real brute force and real stuff because I know all about it.
A lot.
jordan holmes
Almost fetishistically is the way you said that.
alex jones
Like everything else.
But the point is, I don't want to go there because it has a way of not being put back in the bottle.
And I don't want to be these people.
I want real stability and due process.
That said, when you're in a war and you don't have any other choice, I can guarantee you the decisions are being made right now to really take the gloves off.
And if the left thinks just getting indicted is taking the gloves off, you don't know what the gloves off means, you little cowardly shits.
Because you've never done any of the hanging yourself.
There are a lot of people ready to get the order to pay you a visit.
Because we're sick of you killing us with your crime waves and your illegals and your fentanyl.
And we can't take much more of you raping the shit out of us and fucking killing us.
So fucking stop before you make us get off the bench.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
We don't want to do it!
We will.
And if it's bad times you're looking for, you're really getting close.
I can tell you I can feel it.
jordan holmes
You can feel it.
alex jones
Ain't gonna be me.
There's people a lot meaner than me that don't like taking your porcupine cock up their ass every day.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we're on the verge of total war.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I think that there's a...
I mean, I don't think it needs to be said, but he fetishizes violence and brute force to a degree, I think, unlike anybody I've ever seen in the world.
The other day, he was talking about full-on donkey-kicking someone in the face while they're laying on the ground.
And then, hey, if they don't die, then you've got to stomp their guts in.
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
And then if that doesn't work, you've got to bang their head against the ground and apologize while you're doing it.
jordan holmes
Right, because you don't want to do this.
dan friesen
I don't want to be doing this.
jordan holmes
I don't want to be doing this.
dan friesen
I fetishize this, but I don't want to do this.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
Yeah, very strange.
Very strange thing to then also have a, like, hey, I don't fetishize violence, but whenever I think about it, I feel this energy that gives me a pleasurable experience, but at the same time it's maybe a little unpleasurable, some sort of fetish-like feeling that I might receive from this.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's sort of expressing the behavior immediately after saying he doesn't do the thing.
And that's funny.
It is.
jordan holmes
It is.
It's not as funny as it should be, but it is still funny.
dan friesen
I do think that there's a funny moment of the...
I think...
I wonder if he's like, we're sick of taking your...
And he realized he'd already sweared too many times.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And like, maybe I'm out of delay or whatever.
jordan holmes
Then he said porcupine.
dan friesen
Cock.
jordan holmes
And then...
dan friesen
In the ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
dan friesen
Because he would have said shit.
Sick of taking your shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But taking your porcupine cock in the ass.
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
Well, first, I suppose kudos for originality.
I've not heard porcupine cock in the ass before.
dan friesen
Yeah, as a flair for the creative.
jordan holmes
The imagery maybe doesn't land particularly well, because now that I imagine it, I imagine less a cock with porcupine quills and more a porcupine where a cock would be.
dan friesen
That's not a good image.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So we got one last clip here.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex is just yelling about how committed he is to the cause.
Sure, sure.
He's real, for real.
jordan holmes
For real.
alex jones
Surrender isn't even an option.
It doesn't even exist in my mind.
I am pissed at myself every minute that I don't have more energy.
I'm not stronger.
And I gotta be careful because if I push the energy, I turn into a really nasty creature.
The real weapons systems start opening up.
And it's in my mind.
It's not good.
And I've already gone partway there.
And I'm like, I've gone 10%, folks.
And it's not just me, globalists.
You guys have no idea what you're dealing with.
God almighty.
So energize us and get great products.
This turmeric formula is amazing, super strong, 95% humanoid.
dan friesen
I think everybody has a pretty good idea of what they're dealing with.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
What a tremendous piece of shit.
Yeah.
There was a part of me that was like, maybe we'll just skip over the part where he tries to exploit his employee's death.
But I don't know if you can.
I really just think it's ghoulish type behavior and a rank disrespect.
Yep.
It's just another day to him.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Selling that turmeric.
jordan holmes
Gotta get it out the door somehow.
dan friesen
What a dick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll be back with another episode that isn't about just sort of, I don't even want to say rubbing face in it, but it feels a little bit like that.
jordan holmes
What?
I mean, it's just, it's a stark portrait of the depths of what humans can do to each other, and there's just no other way.
You want to look away from it, but you should look at what it is and acknowledge it for what it is and react accordingly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it's painful.
It sucks.
Anyway, we'll be back with another episode.
Until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
And db2 at knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Neo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
dan friesen
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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