#1023: February 28, 2025
In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex in the aftermath of having not saved Gene Hackman, as he tries to play defense for Pam Bondi's failed PR stunt and has a mental orgasm over Trump being mean to Zelensky.
April 7, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
01:26:51
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Dan and Jordan. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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I need money. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a Christian caller. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm John. | ||
|
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Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot is bonsoir. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's what you should have said before the show. | ||
| That is what I should have said. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| Which is good night. | ||
| Bonsoir is good evening. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And I realized that just now. | ||
| Just now, that's your bright spot? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| No, my real bright spot, I've been living this pinky ring lifestyle. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| I've been going out, living with a pinky ring. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Experiencing new things in the context of having a pinky ring on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I can tell you, I... | ||
| I had a very interesting experience. | ||
| I went to an emergency room with a pinky ring on. | ||
| How'd that go? | ||
| I felt like an asshole. | ||
| Yeah, that's not the time for it. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't want people to be worried about me or anything. | ||
| I don't want to cause that kind of alarm, but I did intentionally wear the pinky ring when I went in because I was like, when am I going to have this opportunity ever again? | ||
| Let's hope never. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's hope not frequently. | ||
| But I get to have this experience as somebody who's wearing a pinky ring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I felt like a... | ||
| Complete, uh, asshole. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Um, so much so that you are not currently wearing the pinkie. | ||
| Well, I showered. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now I have it on. | ||
| But, uh, yeah, I, uh, I don't know. | ||
| I just felt like a dick. | ||
| Why? | ||
| No reason. | ||
| Just for any of them just looking, just like being like, oh, we see so many patients all the time with any number of illnesses and ailments and idiosyncratic behaviors and terrible, what, that guy's got a pinky ring? | ||
| What a prick! | ||
| Well, because I think that they know that I don't normally accessorize at all. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I feel like they know that I'm wearing this, I'm forcing it. | ||
| Okay, so you're saying that there is a generalized understanding that you're a poseur in a certain sense. | ||
| I feel like that might be obvious to these viewers, these external viewers. | ||
| And then also, I have a little bit of concern. | ||
| I might need to get a different ring, because this is a Future Farmers of America ring. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it does have a weird eagle on it that kind of looks like an iron eagle. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, I've looked at it quite a few times. | ||
| It doesn't look great to me. | ||
| No, and from a distance, I do feel like it could be misrepresented. | ||
| Pretty badly. | ||
| I would prefer a skull, but I wasn't going to say anything because that sounds awful. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| But, I mean, a pinky ring with a skull on it is a really great way to start a conversation. | ||
| I did have to Google it to make sure it wasn't some, like, awful thing. | ||
| And, you know, it is a future Farmers of America thing. | ||
| But, yeah, you could easily get it twisted. | ||
| And so anyway, I think I'll get a new pinky ring to continue this experiment in a way that I have less self-consciousness about. | ||
| I love self-consciousness. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I can just say, like... | ||
| There's a part of me that almost envies that idea because I walk into places and I'm far more than aware that nobody's paying. | ||
| Everybody's got their own shit going on. | ||
| Nobody's paying attention to you. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| Everybody looks at you and they're like, that guy looks nice. | ||
| Oh, is that a pinky ring? | ||
| I wonder what happened. | ||
| Did he fight in the war? | ||
| No, I just am a future farmer. | ||
| You're a future farmer, see? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| We all find out about each other every day. | ||
| So what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, far less emotionally complex or fraught, New album by Nao. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Came out a month or two ago, or maybe last week. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I've been listening to it. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| Nao. | ||
| She's a very talented, like, R&B kind of singer. | ||
| So it's different than Neo from The Matrix? | ||
| Very different. | ||
| Not very different, but slightly different. | ||
| But isn't there a singer named Neo also? | ||
| This in particular is N-A-O, all caps. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All caps when you spell Nao's name. | ||
| Yeah, because there's Neo. | ||
| Yeah, it's a songwriter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What songs did he do? | ||
| I remember Neo. | ||
| We all remember Neo. | ||
| That's why I was confused. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Well, this is Neo. | ||
| Very similar. | ||
| And you're digging it? | ||
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| Really good album. | ||
| Nothing super special, but it's great. | ||
| Simple pleasures, baby. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about February 28th, 2025. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And I think that on our last episode, we experienced some stuff. | ||
| Yes, we did. | ||
| Gene Hackman's death. | ||
| Gene Hackman's death. | ||
| Or Hack. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He pronounced it varying. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| Hit hard. | ||
| Alex had 200 prophetic dreams about Gene Hackman and how he was supposed to go to Santa Fe to see him or something. | ||
| And so I wanted to check in and see, like, how you doing the next day? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that was heavy. | ||
| I mean, I think as far as, like, contextualizing it... | ||
| First off, discovering that you are a betrayer of the faith. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rough. | ||
| And second, it recontextualizes my experience of reading through what Gene Hackman's last days might have been like. | ||
| Man, all of that could have been avoided if it... | ||
| If it weren't for Alex spitting in the face of God. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If you take the most generous interpretation of what Alex's mission could have been, it could have been to show up in that interim time when his wife had passed and he was still alive and save him from this horrifying last stretch of it. | ||
| So Alex didn't do that, but God told him to, or something, maybe. | ||
| I think if you believe anything that you're saying when you're Alex, you gotta be fucked up for a while after that. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| You'd just go to a monastery or something. | ||
| You have to be like, what good am I? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have had the challenge put in front of me and I've showed myself to be lacking. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So we'll see how he is today. | ||
| Probably great. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wongs. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Dave is God's bitch. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now at Palsy Walk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Luke the Hound Dog, whose secret identity is Inspector Sniffington and his trusty human Dan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And shout out to Warren, whose good spouse wants us to congratulate him on his CS degree. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And congratulations. | ||
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much. | ||
| To BBQ'd ass is another way to say pork butt, says Sheriff underscore Flynn on Twitch. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Four stars. | ||
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So we start off our adventure here, and I feel like Alex's tone is what you'd expect. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's Friday. | ||
| This is the most important broadcast I've ever done. | ||
| Everything is going crazy. | ||
| The deep state's burning down right now. | ||
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InfoWars. | |
| Tomorrow's news. | ||
|
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Today. | |
| It's the most important show he's ever done, because he must... | ||
| Apologize to God. | ||
| I mean, it really fucks me up thinking that he actually believes any of this shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because that generally is like the faith question that so many people constantly wrestle with of like... | ||
| If I were put into that martyr situation, would I make the choice? | ||
| You fantasize about it as a person of faith. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| The Left Behind series of novels exists purely to show why people like Alex Jones will be tortured forever. | ||
| The Mighty Mighty Boston song, the impression that I get is, you know, I'm not a coward, I've just never been tested. | ||
| I like to think that if I would, I would pass. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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And here you have failure. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Which I don't think is inherently bad. | ||
| I think failure is absolutely a great thing that we all have to learn to deal with. | ||
| Lose well, baby. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then to take failure and expand and grow and ensure that it doesn't happen again. | ||
| The idea of failing on this level and just being like, what? | ||
| And then going on with your day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy! | ||
| There's something that I think that is really what sticks out to me about what I... | ||
| One of the things that I really enjoy about Alex is that it just exists without continuity. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think that continuity is something that's kind of funny. | ||
| You know, like, when things exist in defiance of, like, continuous reality, it's funny to try and impose it on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so us existing and watching Alex... | ||
| Is funny because he's not consistent to himself and we're trying to make it work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, he's not fucked up about Gene Hackman at all. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| There's other things that are going on. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Like, hey, did you know that it's the 39th day of Trump's rule? | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
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We are now 39 days. | |
| We're starting the 39th day of Trump being sworn in. | ||
| Exactly 39 days ago. | ||
| It is Friday, February 28th, 2025. | ||
| I have to be calm because we have all the pieces. | ||
| Geopolitical, domestic, what's really happening. | ||
| And I want to explain something to everybody. | ||
| No one really in the even patriot media, which is the dominant media now worldwide, that's why we're winning so much, understands the full magnitude of where we are right now. | ||
| Slept three hours last night. | ||
| I scan everything. | ||
| I've been up since 3 a.m. | ||
| And I've never been in the game more, okay? | ||
| 30-plus years on air. | ||
| We have so much general knowledge about all the systems, and that's the reason we have understanding, quite frankly, that only some people at the White House have as well. | ||
| And there's people now that have full-spectrum analysis understanding, finally. | ||
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Now... | |
| You've just got to have so much experience, so much street smarts. | ||
| You've got to be absolutely in the game. | ||
| You have got to be studying every aspect, energy, society, culture, philosophy, sociology, anthropology. | ||
| And my point is, is that I know exactly what's happening in the world right now. | ||
| He knows everything. | ||
| So I suspect that Alex is ascribing some sort of meaning to the 39th day thing. | ||
| Like, I can't not hear that in relation to the 40 days and 40 nights that Satan tempted Jesus. | ||
| Oh, oh. | ||
| We're on the cusp of the day that the devil retreated from Jesus and his temptations. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| I might be grasping at straws. | ||
| I didn't get that, but the only 39 I can think of is in the 39th step. | ||
| That was a great movie, right? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| No, I think it was Hitchcock. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't know too much about him other than the birds. | ||
| It's all gone to them. | ||
| And rope. | ||
| Didn't he do rope? | ||
| What about rear window? | ||
| I've heard of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know if I've seen it. | ||
| So Alex doesn't also have full spectrum knowledge about anything. | ||
| He constantly gets basic facts wrong, often on purpose, and gleefully falls for whatever dumb shit people he likes post on Twitter. | ||
| So all this, like, you gotta have street smarts, you gotta be in the game, you gotta study. | ||
| It means nothing. | ||
| No. | ||
| All stupid. | ||
| No, I don't... | ||
| Here's the other thing. | ||
| If you were trying to give him the most benefit of the doubt, I think you'd just start from, would it be possible to know this much? | ||
| And I don't know if there's enough time in the day to read enough to have an actual picture. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, that's very easily gotten around. | ||
| God gives him immediate downloads of information, like go to Gene Hackman. | ||
| Yeah, but I can't trust those anymore. | ||
| Those are gone to me. | ||
| No, in theory, they're completely accurate. | ||
| He just ignores them. | ||
| Now they're even more accurate. | ||
| That may be true, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it is less trustworthy in a sense, because now we have the... | ||
| The problem of Alex as God's narrator. | ||
| Here's what's even funnier about that. | ||
| It suggests that God is actually trying to talk through Alex, and Alex just will not let him. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Come on, buddy, say what I want you to say! | ||
| Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, that's not gonna sell CMOS. | ||
| No, but me telling everyone that you tell me what time it is in the middle of the night, that's gonna work. | ||
| That does it. | ||
| So Trump, doing good. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| 39 days. | ||
| All great. | ||
| Top 39 days of any president in history, right? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| We've heard some numbers, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you remember what any of those numbers are? | ||
| Several thousand out of 100. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Continuing to be so good. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Escalation. | ||
| But I just want to say this right up front. | ||
| Trump is outperforming the Dow. | ||
| The best I can imagine. | ||
| Let's have a benchmark of 100%. | ||
| He's at 1,000. | ||
| I am seeing a lot of people in the liberty movement who think this is a McDonald's drive-thru window and that we're going to see just absolute instant gratification. | ||
| Well, you are getting instant gratification on hundreds of major fronts. | ||
| But in going into the bureaucracy and shutting down the criminal operations and bringing them to justice, That is going to take some time. | ||
| Oh yeah, everything's going to take time now. | ||
| Also, McDonald's, Trump? | ||
| Eh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| No. | ||
| A thousand percent out of a possible hundred percent. | ||
| So that's even more than a thousand out of a hundred, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I find that clip to be very interesting insofar as it seems to have said everything while at the same time saying nothing at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's instantly gratified. | ||
| You're going to have to wait for it, though. | ||
| It's 100%. | ||
| It's 1,000%. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| I think this is indicative of the belly of the whale that Alex is in because he didn't save Gene Ackman. | ||
| That is where we find ourselves. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| We have a framework for this now. | ||
| Now we are on belly watch 2025. | ||
| He spit in God's face, and now he is doomed to say everything and nothing constantly. | ||
| It would be great if this were an actual demarcation point, like the day that he spit in God's face, and then the rest of his show forever has changed. | ||
| That'd be great! | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, we could pretend. | ||
| I think we should! | ||
| I think we should. | ||
| I think we should add a meta layer of also God is furious with Alex right now. | ||
| And he needs to pay penance. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| In some way to get back on God's good graces. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So in the real world, outside of our meta narrative, what is going on is that Pam Bondi has done her PR stunt about the Epstein files. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And Alex... | ||
| Has gotta save this thing somehow. | ||
| There's no way to save it. | ||
| Because it's gone bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And a lot of people on the right and dumb assholes on Twitter are pretty mad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| About how there's no new information. | ||
| Reasonably so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The first thing I want to say is this. | ||
| There is a massive deep state civil war with the legitimate elected government of Donald John Trump. | ||
| You already know that. | ||
| But it is hitting a massive... | ||
| Climax right now of the current big battle. | ||
| And we're winning. | ||
| A lot of people are like, oh, Pam Bondi, she tried to scam us with this. | ||
| No, they scammed her and she instantly flipped out about it and sent over 50 agents into the main FBI offices where they have all the documents and they've been there since yesterday afternoon and are still there. | ||
| Local press is getting this. | ||
| Loading trucks up. | ||
| They're just taking everything. | ||
| Because the feds, they're Wait to hear who they are. | ||
| Will not help them and will not give them any information. | ||
| And the head of it, put in there by Ray, said a month ago, we're going to dig in and resist Trump. | ||
| Now, he should have been fired right there, but they didn't. | ||
| They gave him rope. | ||
| And I've talked to people in the administration high up, and I've talked to other high up reporters that talked to Kosh yesterday. | ||
| And he said... | ||
| And they're fine if this gets out there because the deep state knows what happened to them now. | ||
| This was a setup. | ||
| They know they'd already destroyed most of the evidence and moved some of the other for insurance. | ||
| Now they have them on obstruction. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They have them. | ||
| That's big. | ||
| So this is an advantage that Alex is able to maintain because he wasn't invited to the big Epstein PR event and because he didn't jump into it headfirst. | ||
| He was out of the loop, so his ego required him to come up with a secondary narrative about the story, and that's actually worked out to his benefit. | ||
| However, the story he's trying to tell is a little convoluted. | ||
| If you follow what he's saying, there's two main points in the narrative which are actually kind of contradictory. | ||
| The first is that Pam Bondi was set up. | ||
| She meant to do the real release of these files, and it wasn't all a bait-and-switch PR stunt. | ||
| This has to be the case because otherwise we're forced to accept that anything that Trump and his administration might do could be a psyop that's being run on us. | ||
| I feel like a certain amount of psyops are fine for Alex's audience, but at a certain point it becomes condescending. | ||
| You have a government that's tricking you for your own good, which I think they're supposed to be against. | ||
| The second story is that it was all a trap so Kash Patel could get the Southern District caught up in an obstruction case. | ||
| If this is true, then did Pam Bondi know that? | ||
| Was she set up, or was she part of an elaborate ruse to entrap these rogue FBI agents? | ||
| Further, if this is true, were the right-wing influencers she invited to the White House in on this, or were they duped? | ||
| If they were all being used for a PR stunt meant to set up these FBI agents, then it really becomes suspicious that they were bragging about the Epstein files release and how this was the most transparent administration ever. | ||
| They're talking about how transparent the Trump administration is, but no matter what the situation is, they've been tricked into saying that, either by Pam Bondi or for their own good so they play their role in taking down these bad FBI agents. | ||
| If this was an elaborate sting operation, then Pam Bondi wasn't set up. | ||
| She deceived the right-wing media and the world, but it was for the greater good. | ||
| Alex is trying to use these two contradictory narratives to achieve his pretty difficult objective. | ||
| He needs to keep the Epstein football in the air and present the image to the audience that Trump is totally reluctant. | ||
| Yeah, I think partially because... | ||
| What was the... | ||
| What's the win, right? | ||
| So in Blue Sky World, how does this go? | ||
| You know, the plan from Pam Bondi to do this thing. | ||
| How does this go the best? | ||
| What's the best version of this, right? | ||
| I don't know about Pam Bondi, but I could answer based on Alex's version of things in terms of, like, Patel. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that is that they do this big distraction. | ||
| And in the process say, hey, everybody's got to give us everything they've got on the Epstein case. | ||
| Then they trick the Southern District into withholding some stuff that they know they have and now have caught them in a trap. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the PR stunt release is kind of the public-facing moment when the trap was sprung on these Southern District folks. | ||
| Okay, but like in the real world, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what's the best version of this? | ||
| Like, they've got this plan. | ||
| We're going to do this thing. | ||
| We're going to pretend to... | ||
| Like, already, we're in the meeting. | ||
| And they're like, what do you guys want to do? | ||
| Well, they're all yelling at us about Epstein. | ||
| We said we would do something. | ||
| Here's what we do. | ||
| We pretend to give it to them? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In order to set up really giving it to them later, once we steal this stuff back from the Southern District. | ||
| Is that really the plan? | ||
| No, but it's a good storyline. | ||
| Right! | ||
| But this is what I'm saying about why it's hard to play defense for this. | ||
| Even if... | ||
| It's just a bad idea all around. | ||
| Like, even if it had gone the best it could have, it was still a dumb idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would argue that in Alex's frame, everything went exactly how it was supposed to go. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it has to have already gone the way it was always supposed to go. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The whole PR release of all this information that's already public and shit, all of that is for the idiots out there. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That's for the dummies who are distracted easily. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But, I mean, Pam Bondi gives these guys this. | ||
| Does she then feel good? | ||
| Does she get, like, accolades? | ||
| Well, maybe. | ||
| Or does everybody go, oh, you were lying, right? | ||
| She should, if what Alex is saying is true, feel good and get accolades. | ||
| Right. | ||
| However, Alex says that she was tricked and was furious after, which implies that she wasn't in on whatever is going on and isn't getting accolades. | ||
| So she seems dumb. | ||
| Every part of this... | ||
| Is bad for just a regular government. | ||
| But you understand that Alex is in a difficult position. | ||
| Right! | ||
| Well, we all are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Attorney General's insane, apparently. | ||
| Trying to defend a bunch of this stuff is very difficult. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And maintaining the premise that, like... | ||
| You're in good hands is hard, and you're going to have to pretzel it up a little. | ||
| Yeah, because I can see no reasonable way to view what happened as anything other than, oh, you guys were fucking with us. | ||
| The government can't fuck with you. | ||
| We can't have an April Fool's on a February. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Did you notice this year that April Fool's came and went? | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's glorious. | ||
| Yeah, I think that people aren't into pranks right now. | ||
| No, the whole world is an April Fool's prank, so why bother? | ||
| Yeah, I feel like I've seen a lot more pranks happen in past years. | ||
| Yeah, there's nothing that you could convince me wasn't true now. | ||
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I'd be like, yeah, that sounds right. | |
| So, there's other stuff that's going on that's very exciting for Alex. | ||
| Namely, Zelensky is in town to visit Trump. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Trump is effectively ending the Ukraine war as we speak. | ||
| He is publicly humiliating Zelensky. | ||
| He publicly humiliated Kara Starmer. | ||
| We have clips of that. | ||
| He told him, you're the one who started the war. | ||
| We all know that, which is a fact. | ||
| They bragged about it. | ||
| He said, you can't defeat Russia without us, and we're not having a nuclear war. | ||
| To his face. | ||
| Starmer basically pissed in his pants. | ||
| Trump had the British flag flying upside down. | ||
| The Union Jack. | ||
| I mean, this is all deliberate. | ||
| Zelensky gets out of the vehicle just 30 minutes ago to meet Trump. | ||
| Trump goes, oh, look, you dress like a clown. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| To him. | ||
| Look at you, clown. | ||
| So it is true on some level that humiliating the leader of Ukraine and stopping any aid going to them will help end the war in Ukraine, inasmuch as it helps Putin win it. | ||
| If you understand Alex's call for peace as being rooted in a desire for the belligerent party to get its way, this all makes sense. | ||
| When Trump greeted Zelensky at the White House, he said, you're all dressed up today, which I guess Alex has turned into, you're dressed like a clown. | ||
| Trump is like an inkblot test for people like Alex. | ||
| They see what they want to see and repeat what they want to repeat out of it. | ||
| And that's cool. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I like a fictional canvas upon which we can all suffer. | ||
| A lot of projection. | ||
| A lot of projection. | ||
| So, we get back to the Pam Bondi of it all. | ||
| And Alex scolds people who are mad at her. | ||
| How? | ||
| A lot of people are spending their time saying, oh, we're disappointed in Pam Bondi. | ||
| They're 39 days in. | ||
| 37 when this was going on. | ||
| They have a government that when Doe shows up at these agencies, in many cases, they won't even give them the computer codes when they're there lawfully. | ||
| And then they have judges saying the U.S. Treasury Secretary can't get the computers. | ||
| Of course, that got overridden, but it took a week and a half by a higher-level judge. | ||
| So instead of focusing on the fact that, of course, they withheld all the stuff, Focus on the fact that they've been exposed. | ||
| Now, I'm getting to the big news now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The big news is you should look at this as a glass half full. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Not a glass half empty, you pessimistic fuck. | ||
| That's so sad. | ||
| It is. | ||
| That's so sad. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| For him. | ||
| Yeah, because, like, listen, that's what... | ||
| People, that's what his hated center-left people do. | ||
| Like, oh, don't be mad at Biden about this, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Consider the difficulties of getting things done. | ||
| And I think that there is some value in that point of view. | ||
| I'm not to Alex, right? | ||
| Like, fuck you! | ||
| He said that Kash Patel was going to release all of the Epstein stuff the first day. | ||
| And he didn't, so fuck him! | ||
| First day. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| You immediately go into, fuck these people, fuck you, fuck everybody, fuck the right, fuck the left, fuck all of these fuckers, right? | ||
| That's what you do! | ||
| That's what you'd expect that someone who is what Alex pretends to be would do. | ||
| Yeah, not like, oh, but guys, maybe we'll... | ||
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Half full glass! | |
| Listen... | ||
| You want to choose the lesser of two evils right now. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Are you going to let somebody else do things? | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| It's not even the lesser of two evils. | ||
| It's trust the power that's in place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's, hey, they're not doing what they said and I said they would do. | ||
| Give them time. | ||
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They're going to do it. | |
| Come on. | ||
| Let them do it. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| You can trust them, despite all available evidence. | ||
| So Alex said in that last clip that he has a big announcement. | ||
| And so here is what that is. | ||
| Now, here's the big announcement, and I'll show it all to you. | ||
| It's been James Comey's daughter that has run all of the Jeffrey Epstein prosecutions and operations out of New York. | ||
| She ran the Ghislaine Maxwell show trial where they limited what came out. | ||
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And... | |
| And she's the one on record over all the files, including the whistleblowers that have been there and seen them. | ||
| And the whistleblowers told Bondi, this came out last night, they have a bunch of the documents. | ||
| Of course, they kept them wisely. | ||
| So, Comey thinks he destroyed it all or hid it all. | ||
| That's his insurance policy. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| So his daughter was over raiding the big building in New York. | ||
| I've been there and covered it. | ||
| We've got, type in Alex Jones, this is Jeffrey Epstein's lair in New York. | ||
| We've got footage of it. | ||
| And there's all these photos we at least have that came out in court of giant filing cabinets of binders and huge stacks of VHS tapes and hard drives, whole rooms of it, just there alone. | ||
| And she ran the operations in New Mexico, sweeping it up and In the Caribbean, in little St. John's, Pedo Island. | ||
| So this is an absurd claim that Alex is making based on the idea that Comey's daughter ran all of this. | ||
| Maureen Ryan Comey, she was a lead prosecutor on the Ghislaine Maxwell case. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so this is where this is spiraling from. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| The previous night to this episode, Jesse Waters had made this accusation on his Fox show, and Alex is just repeating it because I guess whoever gets Tucker's time slot gets to set the talking points for dipshits. | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| Maureen is an assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, but that doesn't mean that she would be in a position to run any of these law enforcement operations. | ||
| This is just a wild exaggeration of her position. | ||
| A lot of this is rooted in the fact that, in her case against Maxwell, Maureen was given transcripts of Epstein's 2006 grand jury proceedings, which were not released publicly. | ||
| People were obviously curious about why these transcripts were under seal, even though they'd been released to a prosecutor, and this came to a head in July 2024 when these transcripts were made available. | ||
| They're bad, obviously, and they show a flawed prosecution carried out against Epstein. | ||
| I have no interest in making excuses for that or equivocating, but there's no reason to assume Comey's daughter was involved in some kind of cover. | ||
| up. | ||
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That's a giant unearned leap solely meant to change the narrative after Pam Bondi got caught in a failed PR stunt that blew up in her face. | |
| So we're pinning it all on Comey's daughter. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Aside from... | ||
| I guess... | ||
| I guess I don't care. | ||
| You know, fuck her. | ||
| But, like, it's a systemic cover-up. | ||
| Like, everybody's involved at this point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| They're involved in whatever capacity they're involved. | ||
| Yeah, it's the system. | ||
| And you don't know that. | ||
| No. | ||
| You don't know what individual is engaged in what. | ||
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Nope. | |
| And that's pretty difficult to suss out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What we do know is that Comey's daughter was a prosecutor in this case. | ||
| Maxwell was charged. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And is in jail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think she's one for one in terms of these kinds of cases. | ||
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Could be worse. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Could be worse. | ||
| So I guess successfully prosecuting someone for the crime that they've committed is now tantamount to making sure that these things don't get out. | ||
| You're doing a cover-up to make sure that... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't go in for that. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, that just doesn't make sense. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's also... | ||
| What you're saying is... | ||
| You know, it's an important point. | ||
| It's a distraction to point at her. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| As opposed to looking at this holistically and what the systemic failures are that allowed this to happen and to be failingly prosecuted. | ||
| Yeah, it would be... | ||
| I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, this is the... | ||
| Like, this is the dessert of conspiracy theories is, oh, thank God, somebody fucked up. | ||
| As opposed to, are you telling me that over a span of 30 years, more, 50,000 people had an opportunity to do fucking anything about this and nobody did? | ||
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Great. | |
| Cool. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some with reason, some with less reason. | ||
| Whatever you like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, but that's why it's the conspiracy theorist dessert, is also because a lot of the reality of this is kind of boring. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And a lot of those decisions are not... | ||
| Flashy, interesting decisions. | ||
| Some implicate people that maybe you don't want implicated. | ||
| And it's not fun for a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's fun when there's one person and you can put devil horns on their picture. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what we're seeing with Comey's daughter now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you can see kind of like if the end of it is a lot of people without teams are going to get fucked up. | ||
| Then you can definitely see who turns immediately into team players, you know? | ||
| Like, oh, no, no, no. | ||
| We can trust her on this one. | ||
| Like, no. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| And you know why she's not releasing everything. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| You know, you can have some ideas. | ||
| I don't know why exactly. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But, like, yeah. | ||
| There's inconvenience. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Even more is that you don't know why exactly. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he exactly is the problem. | ||
| It's the unknown unknowns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As Rumsfeld might say. | ||
| As Rumsfeld might say. | ||
| So Rumsfeld used to be on Fox News a bunch when he was, you know, when the GOP was a little different. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And Alex talks about how they're just him now. | ||
| Fox News is him. | ||
| And suddenly it's hitting the news everywhere that, oh, looks like FBI agents were involved with Crooks the shooter and geolocation information on his phone and cover-ups. | ||
| It's all over Fox News right now. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And the hosts are saying, looks like the government tried to kill Trump. | ||
| Oh, you didn't think, Bill. | ||
| You know why Fox and everybody's getting on board right now and why the Fox shows sound like me? | ||
| Because we've won. | ||
| Oh, they could still kill Trump or even set a nuke off or do anything, but they'll still be destroyed in the end. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| You are beaten. | ||
| It is useless to resist. | ||
| Don't make me destroy you. | ||
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So... | |
| That's where we are. | ||
| That is kind of where we are. | ||
| Alex is totally correct about one thing in that clip. | ||
| Fox News sounds like him now because he's won. | ||
| He and the people like him have won the internal battle in right-wing media, and we see that playing out. | ||
| Alex has demonstrated that there is no meaningful consequence for lying, and if you provide people with something they want, you can even just brazenly lie in ridiculous and contradictory ways. | ||
| He and Tucker have shown that if you just steadfastly refuse to take any responsibility for anything you say, there's really not any punishment anyone can impose on you. | ||
| Alex directly defamed the families of Sandy Hook victims and aided in fundraising for their harassment. | ||
| He engaged in very obvious obstruction of the process of the civil cases they brought against him to the point of abusing the bankruptcy system in an attempt to derail the process. | ||
| He created new fake businesses to hide his revenue streams and made his moves incredibly obvious by doing things like having his dad or one of his employees be the new owner of something that his name legally can't be. | ||
| As it stands now, there really is no consequence. | ||
| That isn't to say that these cases have been in vain or that meaningful things haven't come out of them, but in terms of what Alex does, he's suffered very little other than temporary inconvenience, which may actually be a net positive for him because he... | ||
| His business runs on persecution fantasies. | ||
| The absolute worst-case scenario for Alex right now is that he has to liquidate his assets, and he gets to continue on doing his show under a new title, under the umbrella of a dummy company that's outside the scope of collections. | ||
| Meaningfully, there's no actual consequence for him, only for the company Infowars or Free Speech Systems, and those companies don't really exist. | ||
| The attention abuse model that Alex has pioneered has won out in his media space. | ||
| And the consequences of that are going to be something that we can't really be sure of, and we're going to be feeling it for a while. | ||
| But he's right. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| He's demonstrated that there's no need to be responsible. | ||
| Just speak freely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do whatever you want. | ||
| Yeah, there is something to be said about the irony of him being like, ah, they're setting them up for an obstruction charge, when he should really be like, laws are fake, man. | ||
| Laws aren't real. | ||
| He knows damn well that some of them aren't. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So that should probably be his lesson, is like, listen, you can just wear them down. | ||
| If you have just enough money, you can wear them down and they'll give up. | ||
| They're quitters. | ||
| A lot of people are. | ||
| He's definitely found that to be the case in every situation prior to this. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And this one is not finished yet. | ||
| And I wouldn't say that they're quitters, but the courts certainly are... | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| So, Comey's daughter, though. | ||
| Her fault. | ||
| Send her to the moon. | ||
| Well, no, because the moon is going to be built up by Elon Musk, so she can't go to the moon. | ||
| Sun is fine. | ||
| Yeah, she's behind everything. | ||
| Maureen Comey... | ||
| When she was literally just into the FBI, into the Justice Department, prosecutor, assistant U.S. attorney, beyond wet behind the ears, snot-nosed. | ||
| I mean, she still looks like a 10-year-old. | ||
| She's magically given all the major pedo cases. | ||
| Not just P. Diddy, not just Epstein, not just Gisling Maxwell. | ||
| She's got dozens of them. | ||
| I mean, you know when she gets given the case. | ||
| It's when there are the other cases around the country that are being run by people that aren't corrupt. | ||
| They follow their own and then take control of it. | ||
| That's where they do their cover-ups is in New York. | ||
| That's the real locust, the real mothership of the really nasty stuff. | ||
| Decent. | ||
| Trump is live with Zelensky right now. | ||
| I think accidentally he almost said D.C. and had to stop himself because he was talking about New York. | ||
| No, I'm talking about New York. | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| So Maureen Comey does not get all the big pedophile cases, but this is a fun game for Alex to play where he's creating a mockery of the idea of taking the exploitation of children seriously and is something that's more than just a political prop. | ||
| Alex is saying that Comey is so young and looks 10, but she graduated from William and Mary College in 2010 before going to Harvard Law School. | ||
| She's been with the U.S. Attorney's Office for nine years, so she was about five years in when she took on the Maxwell case. | ||
| She wasn't the only prosecutor in that case, but she did a good job, and Maxwell's serving a 20-year sentence in jail. | ||
| This isn't the only case she's been involved with, but in December 2024 it was revealed that she would be joining the prosecution of the Diddy case, and there's some obvious parallels that you can draw. | ||
| If you're someone who's looking for a prosecutor in New York who has experience with this kind of case, it seems like Maureen has a strong track record and is a good fit for the job. | ||
| At the same time, I'm not an idiot, and there's probably a case to be made for nepotism playing some role in the fast-tracking of her career. | ||
| But it's foolish to assume that that's the whole story. | ||
| Alex is treating that connection with her dad as the whole story, and then he's making up this salacious conspiracy story on top of that in order to exploit the feelings people have around the story. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I had almost even left the nepotism part out because that's the real world shit. | ||
| In this, I'm assuming that this is like a big meeting at the top. | ||
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Oh, we've got another black ball. | |
| Let's give it to Comey, right? | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| Oh, somebody's investigating in southeastern New Mexico. | ||
| We've got to give Comey in here. | ||
| No, because she's in the Southern District of New York. | ||
| She's not doing cases in New Mexico. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| But his conspiracy is that they're taking cases from that kind of thing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't even know how that would work. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, what he thinks is going on is that there are all these cases, and whenever they need a cover-up, they create a case in New York in order for her to take over it, in order to squash it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| That's the game he's playing. | ||
| As opposed to, she was involved in the prosecution of the Maxwell case, and has experience in this field. | ||
| So if you're prosecuting the Diddy case, it makes sense that you might... | ||
| I have someone who's been in the territory before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, Clarice Starling keeps getting called in to find where Hannibal is. | ||
| She has experience with the one thing that you really need right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And Alex is all over the place. | ||
| She's in the FBI. | ||
| She's a lawyer. | ||
| She's in the district. | ||
| She's a district attorney. | ||
| It feels like he's very, very uncomplicated. | ||
| It's a very situation where you're like, oh, I need a cake. | ||
| Who do you call? | ||
| Somebody who is perhaps the boss of cakes. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| One to one. | ||
| Well. | ||
| You know? | ||
| What about the Ace of Cakes? | ||
| I mean, that's higher than the Queen of Cakes, I assume. | ||
| The competing show with Cake Boss, Ace of Cakes. | ||
| I did not understand that. | ||
| No? | ||
| Now I'm confused. | ||
| Which one is related to the Comey family? | ||
| Probably the cake boss. | ||
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| We gotta go with that. | ||
| So Alex is really just repeating the stuff that was on, like, Jesse Waters' show, and then Dan Bongino had talked about this. | ||
| Also, Dan Bongino is a deputy head of the FBI now. | ||
| Is he head of the FBI? | ||
| So let's listen to this shithead. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Wait, and he still does the show? | |
| The daughter of Comey. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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We have an update on that from the Telegraph. | |
| Turns out, headline... | ||
| Evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's safe went missing after an FBI raid. | ||
| Court hears in Ghislaine Maxwell trial. | ||
| Folks, listen. | ||
| I have over a decade of experience as a federal agent myself. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
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Hey, look at me. | |
| I'm just telling you, to prove bona fides here, I have processed hundreds, if not thousands of pieces of evidence throughout my law enforcement career. | ||
| I don't know how you would lose evidence. | ||
| Let me explain to you how evidence works. | ||
| You serve a search warrant in Jeffrey Epstein's house, and let's say, for example, you find videotapes or DVDs or whatever it may be. | ||
| You then take them. | ||
| You tag them. | ||
| You note where you found them. | ||
| In many cases, you take pictures. | ||
| In most cases now, you take pictures of where you found them. | ||
| You catalog them in evidence envelopes so you can't tamper with them, right? | ||
| You seal the envelope. | ||
| You sign the envelope. | ||
| It then comes back with you in custody, and it goes back typically, well, in the Secret Service, to an evidence vault, which is a big, like, bank safe, in the office. | ||
| To go in the evidence vault, you have to sign in. | ||
| To sign out the evidence, you have to sign out the specific piece of evidence. | ||
| How the hell do you lose evidence in a case this big? | ||
| Is it lost? | ||
| Was it lost, if you get what I mean? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm just telling you. | ||
| I've never seen evidence. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I did see evidence lost. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Sadly. | ||
| During 9-11, our office was in Seven World Trade Center, the Secret Service office. | ||
| Seven World Trade came down. | ||
| I promise we lost a lot of evidence. | ||
| That's the only time I've ever seen evidence lost. | ||
| All right, let's stop right there. | ||
| And who did that? | ||
| You did. | ||
| Who did that? | ||
| Who ran that? | ||
| I just showed you the articles. | ||
| Maureen Comey. | ||
| She did 9-11? | ||
| Or did Bongino do 9-11 to hide all of his evidence? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I'm very confused. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, I got really scared when you were like, wait, does he still do his show? | ||
| Because I was like, maybe he does. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| His show has been replaced by a show called The Vince Show. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So I think his show is done for now. | ||
| Oh, I was actually pretty... | ||
| I think that's an old clip. | ||
| Because the Telegraph article that he's talking about is from like 2021. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I think that was previous. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Because I was thinking, that actually relieved me quite a bit. | ||
| Because, you know, if I'm going back to the olden times of government, which is how we're kind of at right here, I would prefer to have a loyal servant rewarded with a fiefdom if that servant is not really interested in governing. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I want them to be more interested in taking a bath. | ||
| Then I don't have to worry about it too much. | ||
| I think that that is what I feel about, like, some ambassadorships, maybe. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But maybe not deputy head of the FBI. | ||
| Well, you know, I would prefer that not be the case, but it would be a lot easier to eat if he was also doing a show, and you're like, oh, okay, well, at least he's just... | ||
| He's just doing the show. | ||
| And he draws a salary. | ||
| Well, I think it introduces a lot of really dicey possibilities of the deputy head of the FBI doing a propaganda bullshit talk show. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So anyway, these people are frauds and they have to know it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's quote-unquote missing Epstein evidence, like some CDs and hard drives, but it didn't go missing from the police lockup or something like that. | ||
| What happened is that Epstein's home in New York was raided in 2019, but... | ||
| Special Agent Kelly McGuire testified that the FBI didn't have the warrant to remove his property, so they couldn't legally take this stuff. | ||
| They photographed these things, but they would have been committing a crime if they took his property, which could have risked invalidating them as evidence that then could be introduced in court. | ||
| They went through the process of getting a warrant, but when they returned to pick up this potential evidence, it was gone. | ||
| The image that people like Alex and Bongino are trying to present is that the missing evidence is stuff that the FBI, or I guess now Maureen Comey, seized, and they were aware of it, but then it went missing from their custody. | ||
| This is meant to be an obvious case of a cover-up, because how can evidence go missing? | ||
| You hear Bongino using his bona fides as evidence that he knows that this thing can never happen, evidence just doesn't go missing. | ||
| But if they were at all familiar with this case, they would have to know that this is just a misrepresentation. | ||
| It's just impossible to take the story seriously at all and use deceptive tactics like this. | ||
| It's an indicator. | ||
| It's a necessary indicator of deception. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I mean, the irony is, I think, if I'm doing his job, I'm saying... | ||
| I've been a federal for forever. | ||
| Why was the warrant written the way it was? | ||
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| That kind of thing. | ||
| To give them a warning. | ||
| That's an angle that you can take there. | ||
| It's a possible one you could take. | ||
| But not this one. | ||
| It's more rooted in reality. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I wouldn't be able to answer that question off the top of my head. | ||
| Which is the idea. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's the point, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exploring the question of why the warrant was written the way it is is a productive path of inquiry as opposed to where's all this missing stuff? | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| And pretending that the chain of custody and evidence lockers were tampered or whatever, you're just creating fantasies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when Alex said that this is the most important broadcast ever, I thought the reason was because this is the day that Trump... | ||
| Insulted Zelensky to his face. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, I remember that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that hadn't happened yet. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alex was just excited about trying to defend the Pam Bondi stunt and the fact that Trump insulted Zelensky when he showed up. | ||
| It had not even happened yet that they got into a fight in the Oval Office or wherever the fuck they were. | ||
| Good stuff. | ||
| But clips are starting to come out of that. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| About an hour ago when Zelensky arrived at the White House... | ||
| Trump goes, oh, look at your little outfit. | ||
| Well, you're so dressed up today, kid. | ||
| That's what Trump does when he hates your guts. | ||
| They weren't carrying the press conference live on national TV, but people were shooting clips and getting it out. | ||
| We have those. | ||
| And the crew started coming in about 10 minutes ago going, hey, you need to see these. | ||
| Now national news has gone to it because Zelensky is melting down on air. | ||
| Freaking out and Trump is just spanking him. | ||
| He basically has him over his knee spanking him right now. | ||
| Because he's a little lying, corrupt, cokehead weasel. | ||
| Gay prostitute. | ||
| Totally compromised. | ||
| So the media wasn't ignoring the Trump and Zelensky meeting. | ||
| That's just something that Alex is throwing in for... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| In reality, this was one of the most insane and embarrassing meetings I've ever seen between a president and another world leader. | ||
| I get that Trump and his base love Putin and hate Zelensky, and that's fine. | ||
| It's their right to have that opinion, but the behavior that Trump engaged in was fucking childish. | ||
| Watching this exchange between Trump and Zelensky, I felt gross. | ||
| I don't have a particular connection to Zelensky as a person, but I do believe that he's the leader of a country that was invaded and has essentially zero power to stop the war outside of capitulating to that invading power. | ||
| I think that his side is right in the conflict, and I think that as a superpower on the world stage, we have a responsibility to defend countries that are in Ukraine's position, generally speaking. | ||
| We can argue about that, and adults can have different perspectives on the U.S. and our international responsibilities. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But what happened in this meeting was petulant lashing out and baby stuff. | ||
| J.D. Vance scolded Zelensky for not thanking Trump for the U.S. providing aid to Ukraine, and things just kind of spiraled. | ||
| Out of control. | ||
| That'll happen. | ||
| It was a pure, like, you haven't prostrated yourself enough in front of Trump and now we're going to humiliate you kind of situation. | ||
| And you can see how that plays into Alex's interests, but it sends a horrible message to the rest of the world. | ||
| Trump doesn't act that way with Kim Jong-un, for example. | ||
| Like, after they met in 2019, Trump said they, quote, fell in love. | ||
| The democratic states of the world understand this messaging, and that blow-up that Trump and Vance had at Zelensky may end up being a giant turning point of international relations, where the rest of the world just realizes that we aren't a reliable participant in world affairs anymore. | ||
| Like, I saw that... | ||
| Friends, I'm gonna have to say that we're a little late to that party. | ||
| Well, I... | ||
| Sure, maybe we haven't been a reliable participant in a while. | ||
| That's fair, but... | ||
| I think that the optics of that make it pretty clear to just about everybody. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, I don't want to agree with Alex that it's like this is a crazy, world-changing moment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it has the feeling of something that could be in a textbook. | ||
| Like, it really did feel that way. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| A world leader who is at war. | ||
| Being treated like a real dick publicly by the president. | ||
| Doing that in private is one thing. | ||
| I'm going to say this, and I mean, feel free to take it however you like, but that won't show up in a textbook because all of the other times it's happened... | ||
| Aren't in textbooks. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| It's happened a bunch of times between world leaders. | ||
| Bush threw up on that guy. | ||
| We all know about that. | ||
| That was H.W. He definitely did that. | ||
| That was a Japanese ambassador, right? | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| Or was it the prime minister? | ||
| It might have been the full-on Japanese prime minister. | ||
| I don't think that I can call to mind many examples of a president acting like this. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I suppose you'd have to go back further than, like, our lifetime. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Well, you've got Jackson for sure. | ||
| Okay, that's way back. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, what part of American history are we... | ||
| Like, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, how old is America? | ||
| Are we allowing it to be? | ||
| We're pretty close to 250, I think. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So that's about halfway. | ||
| No, that was about 60 years in. | ||
| That was first third. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| I'm not going to fully disagree with you, but I'm going to say that that's not modern history, and I think that that is a little different. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Mass media didn't really exist in the time of Jackson. | ||
| Let me ask you another question. | ||
| Does it matter whether or not we're on the same team in a conflict? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, so if somebody's on... | ||
| I think you could... | ||
| Well... | ||
| So if you're talking... | ||
| Depends if it's like a jocular familiarity that you're being a dick or not. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| But say, you know, say we're Afghanistan in the 80s. | ||
| And somebody's like, hey, go fuck yourself. | ||
| Are we cool with that? | ||
| Is that embarrassing or is that fine? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Did you watch this exchange? | ||
| I didn't, no. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you don't have a lot of context. | ||
| For the exchange as it happened to be able to compare it to things in the past. | ||
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No. | |
| Okay, well we're going to listen to it and we'll revisit this line of thought that you have after we hear it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So Alex plays a little bit of a clip of Vance talking to Zelensky and he gets bored because it's not electric enough. | ||
| For four years in the United States of America, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin, and then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country. | ||
| The path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy. | ||
| We tried the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the United States' words mattered more than the president of the United States' actions. | ||
| Is America a good country? | ||
| Is America engaging in diplomacy? | ||
| That's what President Trump is doing. | ||
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Can I ask you? | |
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So he occupied our parts, big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea. | ||
| So he occupied it on 2014. | ||
| During a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, but those time was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now President Trump. | ||
| And the argument's about to start. | ||
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Now President Trump will stop him. | |
| But during 2014, nobody stopped him. | ||
| He just occupied him. | ||
| Here, here, pause for a minute. | ||
| Move that forward a little while when the next fight starts, but we have the earlier stuff. | ||
| Now, get ready for this, and we gotta get all this out on X right now. | ||
| I mean, I know we're streaming live on X, by the way. | ||
| Oh man, people are gonna love this on Twitter. | ||
| But yeah, Alex has only heard about this, because it's happening while he's on air. | ||
| It's unfolding. | ||
| Right, and he's listening to this exchange, and it's kind of boring. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because he's heard that there's a fight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That happens. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And so he hears Zelensky bringing up 2014 and being, this isn't about Biden. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He wants to hear somebody yell, world star. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
|
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Gotcha. | |
| And so he's like, let's go a little bit ahead. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Let's skip to the good part. | ||
| And so here's some fireworks. | ||
| Put this headline out on the live feed. | ||
| Watch live as Trump puts Zelensky over his knee and publicly spanks him, saying, quote, you don't have the cards to dictate. | ||
| Policy, quote, you should be more thankful. | ||
| I mean, I've got the transcripts here, but I haven't even seen it yet. | ||
| This is insanely good. | ||
| A little arrogant drug addict. | ||
| And Trump's pissed at it because he lies to him on the phone, agrees to this, says he never did. | ||
| Trump has it all recorded in transcripts. | ||
| Share the live feeds right now, Red Locks Jones, folks. | ||
| Share them now. | ||
| And get those headlines out, folks. | ||
| Please ask. | ||
| Been to, because I can't type it myself right now. | ||
| Most of the stuff you see on my ex-accounts, me or I dictate it, but I'm a little busy right now. | ||
| But it's when, boom, breaking. | ||
| Trump is publicly humiliating Zelensky on live TV. | ||
| Basically has him over his knee spanking him. | ||
| Says, you don't have the cards to dictate policy. | ||
| You should be more thankful. | ||
| A ceasefire is inevitable. | ||
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A ceasefire is inevitable. | |
| Go to You Don't Have the Cards. | ||
| You should be more thankful. | ||
| And ceasefire is inevitable. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| ...about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country. | ||
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Yes, but if you are not strong... | |
| Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. | ||
| Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. | ||
| You should be thanking the President for trying to bring it into this conflict. | ||
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Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have? | |
| I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people on a propaganda tour, Mr. President. | ||
| Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military? | ||
| And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country? | ||
|
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A lot of questions. | |
| Let's start from the beginning. | ||
| First of all, during the war, Everybody has problems. | ||
| Even you. | ||
| But you have nice ocean and don't feel now. | ||
| But you will feel it in the future. | ||
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God bless. | |
| You don't know that. | ||
|
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God bless. | |
| God bless. | ||
| You will not have the war. | ||
| Don't tell us what we're going to feel. | ||
| We're trying to solve a problem. | ||
| Don't tell us what we're going to feel. | ||
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I'm not telling you. | |
| Because you're in no position to dictate that. | ||
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Remember this. | |
| You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. | ||
| We're going to feel very good. | ||
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We're going to feel very good and very strong. | |
| You're right now not in a very good position. | ||
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You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and he happens to be right about it. | |
| You're not in a good position. | ||
| You don't have the cards right now. | ||
| With us you start having cars, but right now you're playing cars. | ||
| You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. | ||
| You're gambling with World War III. | ||
| You're gambling with World War III. | ||
| And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country. | ||
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It's back to you. | |
| Far more than a lot of people said they should have. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Holy shit is right. | ||
| This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| I just love Trump even more. | ||
| This is the coolest thing. | ||
| So there's a couple of important points that I want to bring up about this clip. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| The first is that Alex writes a headline about the video he's about to play without ever having seen it. | ||
| This is indicative of his style. | ||
| It's about grabbing attention more than it is about conveying information, and anyone who believes otherwise just hasn't watched his show. | ||
| The second is Alex's response after that video. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| Because it reflects a power imbalance that he really likes. | ||
| Zelensky is in a very vulnerable situation. | ||
| He's the head of a country that has been invaded by a much stronger and larger country, and his people are being killed. | ||
| He's in a position where he could end the conflict, but it would likely come at the expense of even more of his people, and likely the autonomy of the country as a whole. | ||
| Essentially, he can make the war stop when he wants, but that doesn't guarantee Ukraine's safety or even existence into the future. | ||
| Without USAID, he has a very hard time making any other decision than capitulating to the larger power. | ||
| Trump and Vance know this in the context of this meeting. | ||
| They know that Zelensky literally cannot tell them to fuck off without putting the lives of his people at a much greater risk. | ||
| They can act however they want, and he has to take it. | ||
| Because if he blows up at them, he does so at the cost of his own people's lives. | ||
| When Trump talks to leaders like Putin and Kim Jong-un, this dynamic doesn't exist because they don't rely on the US to keep their public safe, which they don't really care about anyway. | ||
| Russia and North Korean relations with the United States are bad, so either of them could just tell Trump to fuck off, and he would end up looking weak, so he's very nice to them. | ||
| He licks their boots, one might even say. | ||
| However, in the context of this relationship, Trump has the ability to act like a big bully, knowing that the other party doesn't have the power to stand up to him. | ||
| Alex loves this shit because ultimately he's a bully too, and he believes that might makes right, so long as might is defined in such a way that he feels like he's always part of the mightiest group. | ||
| It's coward shit, and Alex's response to it is very telling. | ||
| But you... | ||
| you hear that. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| No, that's letter-writing shit. | ||
| That was back before people could see it. | ||
| You know, that's the type of shit you would say to other world leaders whenever you never had to worry about, like, oh, this is going to get out. | ||
| My dear sir. | ||
| Live television is a whole different story. | ||
| Yeah, nobody's doing that shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When I said, well, revisit this. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| No, they've been... | ||
| That's unlike a lot of... | ||
| I can't think of a parallel. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| In the modern history. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Something that's public. | ||
| Since TV? | ||
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No, absolutely not. | |
| Like I said even earlier, if this argument was happening in private, whatever. | ||
| No, if it was happening in the UN, it would be understandable. | ||
| Like, this type of shit has happened in the UN plenty of times. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| People just act like fools, but it's never the one in charge. | ||
| It's just a bunch of ambassadors talking shit with each other, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think it's degrading. | ||
| To us, even. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Fart. | ||
| So you had a fart. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex busted. | ||
| Yeah, good for him. | ||
| Alex has a mental orgasm. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| This is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| God, I just love Trump even more. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And the president who's trying to save your country. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Excuse me, that was with Obama, who gave you sheets, and I gave you javelins. | ||
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Yes? | |
| I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. | ||
| Obama gave you sheets. | ||
| In fact, the statement is, Obama gave sheets and Trump gave javelins. | ||
| You gotta be more thankful. | ||
| Because let me tell you, you don't have the cards. | ||
| With us, you have the cards. | ||
| But without us, you don't have any cards. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| It's an honor to have President Zelensky of Ukraine. | ||
| And we've been working very hard, very close. | ||
| So we've actually known each other for a long time. | ||
| We've been dealing with each other. | ||
| I just had the biggest mental orgasm of my life. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He busted. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Up in the head. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Do you know the brain is the biggest erogenous zone in the body? | ||
| I've heard. | ||
| I've heard. | ||
| I didn't want to hear it out of his mouth. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And honestly, I usually think people are speaking in metaphor. | ||
| When they say something like, I just had a mental orgasm. | ||
| I think he, yeah. | ||
| Alex, I think we might have to take this a little more seriously. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Because he proceeds from this point to make noises. | ||
| Does he start smoking a cigarette? | ||
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Probably. | |
| Bonsoir. | ||
| No, I don't know if he's smoking a cigarette, but he does make noises for two minutes straight. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| I just had the biggest mental orgasm of my life. | ||
| I mean, you think seeing your team win the Super Bowl's fun? | ||
| I know you're saying that. | ||
| We also have the big FBI whistleblower that exposed all this four days ago, and then again two days ago, broke exclusive. | ||
| He's got massive exclusive news. | ||
| He's got high-level contact with the people inside the New York office where the raids are going on. | ||
| You're going to get the exclusives coming up next hour. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Folks, I'm actually so much endorphins dumping right now. | ||
| No, stop. | ||
| Somebody stop him. | ||
| This is what they must have felt like when the Death Star blew up. | ||
| That was real. | ||
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This Death Star just blew up. | |
| You see, it's a mental bullying they had, a trance people were under, and it's... | ||
| It was already breaking, but there was still a little mist. | ||
| It's like crystal clear. | ||
| You can see a trillion miles right now. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Thank you, God. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| This is so good. | ||
| Yeah, oh Just look those clips through This is... | ||
| Oh, good Lord! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Oh, God! | |
| It's so good! | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Yeah, so I think he busted. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This is the button. | ||
| Okay, so here's your button for this. | ||
| Because I think a lot of people, the quick and dirty way is to do they all have what he's having. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| Overplayed. | ||
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Done. | |
| Right? | ||
| Your button for this is Rex turns and looks at his mom and she goes, yep, every time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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That's the button. | |
| Not bad. | ||
| So yeah, there's a lot of noises. | ||
| He's feeling good. | ||
| I don't know if that's good. | ||
| I don't know what feeling that... | ||
| I think that's a feeling of excitement. | ||
| Perhaps ecstasy. | ||
| But I don't know if that's always a good feeling. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think that there's an acknowledgement on some level. | ||
| And I think that Alex, if he were forced to actually process the way he's behaving and what he stands for, I think Trump has just mirrored him a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the terms of, like, if you're a baby in an adult body, People can't stop you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if you just act like a baby, but you have the force of a human adult, people just don't know what to do with that. | ||
| I mean, they could stop you, but they don't, which is amazing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex has certainly illustrated that through the last long time in his life. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And Trump is now doing that in terms of international relations. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The death star of people acting like adults is blown up. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| She's acting like a baby. | ||
| I think for the longest time, we were like, ah, you can't. | ||
| People aren't babies. | ||
| You have to not believe people are babies. | ||
| Because if you don't believe people are babies, then you can use words all of the time. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But then once you find out some people are babies, words don't always work. | ||
| So for people who think you can only use words, ah, they're fucked. | ||
| Sorry, you're going to get your ass beat by a baby. | ||
| So good luck to you. | ||
| Yeah, you're just running around until you run into that violent fucking baby. | ||
| If you had any number of skills that weren't just talking, you could fight back against a giant baby, but apparently, nope. | ||
| You know, I was thinking about Zombies Ate My Neighbors. | ||
| Wait, was that the video game or is that a book series? | ||
| It's a video game from the Super Nintendo. | ||
| Did they win? | ||
| No. | ||
| I guess there are zombies in it, but there's a whole bunch of other kind of monsters. | ||
| And one of them, one of the bosses, so you have to save your neighbors from all these monsters. | ||
| Otherwise zombies will have eaten your neighbors. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And one of them is a baby that's walking around. | ||
| Big baby? | ||
| Old baby? | ||
| Dead baby? | ||
| Just a baby. | ||
| Just a regular baby. | ||
| That's one of the victim's neighbors that you need to save. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You need to save the baby. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| But there's a boss that's a giant baby. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now you're confused. | ||
| Do I save the giant baby or just the little baby? | ||
| Well, you have to kill the giant baby in order to turn it back into a regular baby to save. | ||
| That's a big leap of faith. | ||
| It's going to be hard. | ||
| How about we put it to you this way, right? | ||
| And it's like dropping milk on you from its bottle. | ||
| If somebody just said, oh hey, in order to make that baby a regular baby again, you have to kill it, I don't think you should just believe that person. | ||
| They do not have any evidence that that will turn it back into a regular baby. | ||
| But what if you're being chased around by werewolves and Draculas and big spiders? | ||
| Then I suggest you have larger problems than a big baby. | ||
| Not when that big baby shows up. | ||
| That is the biggest problem. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I still don't think you can trust the person who's just saying it'll go back to... | ||
| If somebody was like, hey, you gotta kill that baby, even if it doesn't go back to normal... | ||
| Let me tell you about this. | ||
| No one is telling you you've gotta kill the baby to turn it back into a normal baby. | ||
| You are just trying to kill it. | ||
| You're just assuming that you're gonna kill this baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It just so happens that it turns back into a regular baby afterwards. | ||
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Is that great? | |
| I knew I was gonna do that the whole time. | ||
| That's what you say. | ||
| You're setting out to kill this huge baby. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Stomping all over everybody. | ||
| As long as we're all aware of what we're doing on that day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I think is important. | ||
| Anyway, it's a fun game I was thinking about. | ||
| Should play that on the virtual console. | ||
| On the Switch. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So anyway, these are the kind of thoughts you have when Alex just makes noises for long stretches of time. | ||
| Yeah, that is fucked up. | ||
| And so he mentioned there that there's like a FBI whistleblower that he's going to talk to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he talks about that a little bit more while he's continuing to make noises. | ||
| Thanks for that. | ||
| Thanks for that cold open. | ||
| Something I can't tell you about yet. | ||
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They didn't know other FBI agents had all the stuff they destroyed. | |
| Trump's already got it. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| I've been fighting these people for 35 years, folks. | ||
| And this is like I've been swimming 50 miles, man, and I finally got to land. | ||
| I've never felt like this in my life. | ||
| This is not an act, folks. | ||
| I can't control myself. | ||
| Okay, just share those clips again. | ||
| I really believe it when people say I'm not doing an act when they're really doing an act. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's convincing. | ||
| So I've read about these guys, and no judgment, but their kink is really getting their balls smashed. | ||
| Cock and ball torture kind of thing? | ||
| Heavy, just really heavy smashing the balls. | ||
| And I imagine that's the sound of the feeling that you're looking for, right? | ||
| Like a combination of this is what I want, but also this is maybe the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like a whole swirl of things. | ||
| If we take it away from like... | ||
| Ball torture or whatever. | ||
| It's like jumping into ice water or something like that, you know? | ||
| I could have chosen ice water. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| There's like an exhilaration of a surrender to some overwhelming sensation. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I guess that's what Alex is trying to recreate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or the appearance of that is what he's trying to recreate. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's unconvincing and he's a terrible actor. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| So it ends up sounding like this. | ||
| I think somebody should smash his balls. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then we'll get a good take out of that. | ||
| Give him the old Belvedere treatment. | ||
| Absolutely, yeah. | ||
| That's what you need for a good take, buddy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex has some guests on the show, and I don't particularly care. | ||
| One of them is Jeremy Brown, who's a January 6th rioter who Trump pardoned. | ||
| And in the process of pardoning... | ||
| He ended up getting pardoned for a separate gun charge where police found that he had six guns in his home, which he was not legally allowed to have because he was a felon. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A couple of the guns he had, like a modified AR-15 and a sawed-off shotgun, would be illegal for him to have even if he wasn't a felon. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But oh well. | ||
| He also possessed documents he was improperly storing from back when he had previously been a member of U.S. Special Forces. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And grenades he was found to have stolen from the FBI. | ||
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Cool. | |
| And all that got wiped away because... | ||
| Trump January 6th. | ||
| That's fucking great. | ||
| So that's cool. | ||
| So that guy, also Oath Keeper. | ||
| Also, Alex interviews that FBI whistleblower that he was mentioning. | ||
| It was a guy named Garrett O 'Boyle, who was suspended by the FBI in 2022 for leaking sensitive information to Project Veritas, which he was accused of lying to Congress about, his giving of that information. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Allegedly, some of the information he leaked was part of an ongoing investigation, which could have the effect of tampering with the case. | ||
| Anyway, he's been the star of right-wing media spaces ever since because of the FBI whistleblowing. | ||
| He's been pretty cool, and I don't really care. | ||
| About all this nonsense. | ||
| Because Alex has another guest. | ||
| I've got one... | ||
| Okay, I don't give a shit about what he has to say about what he wants to talk about. | ||
| Meaningless to me. | ||
| But I want to know the feeling of being Jeremy Brown, like, staring down the barrel of the rest of your life. | ||
| The sawed-off shotgun of the rest of your life. | ||
| The rest of your life is laid out in front of you. | ||
| Like, it has been... | ||
| Signed, sealed, delivered. | ||
| It is there. | ||
| You are going to be in a hole forever. | ||
| I tried to overthrow the government, and then I was found to be in possession of stolen grenades, illegal guns, and classified information that I shouldn't have had. | ||
| And if I am in possession of all of those things, I am not in the possession of good behavior, so I will not be getting out of this prison early. | ||
| And if anything, probably going to have some years tacked on, right? | ||
| Yeah, you're looking at a... | ||
| Ghislaine Maxwell-sized sevens, probably. | ||
| He's going to be an old man, and then all of a sudden, fucking get out of jail. | ||
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A literal, not figurative. | |
| You really expect, like, okay. | ||
| Get out of jail free. | ||
| I think that I'm probably going to get away with rioting the Capitol thing. | ||
| Some of it. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I'm looking at other people getting away with it, and I'm thinking, yeah, I'll probably get away with that. | ||
| Trump's let out the Proud Boys and Joe Biggs and all that, so I'm probably cool. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I probably am still in trouble about the grenades. | ||
| Still doing five to ten for explosives. | ||
| Then I've got another ten years of probation, so they're going to check to see. | ||
| They can do a wellness check. | ||
| They can see if I've got guns on my property at any point in time. | ||
| And then to walk outside and just be like, this is crazy. | ||
| You know those sounds Alex was making earlier? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| It would make sense for him to make those noises. | ||
| Yes, absolutely! | ||
| Listen, it should not be free, but I want to know what that feels like. | ||
| It's probably like getting kicked in the balls. | ||
| I assume. | ||
| It's gotta be the best. | ||
| Like, winning the lottery is fine, but that's going from neutral to positive. | ||
| To go from hell to just being, like, normal, that's crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| So I don't really care about either of these interviews, because like I said, there's another guest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's a puppet. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Wait, is it Owen Schroer? | ||
| No. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Which fucking puppet is it? | ||
| I guess there's a puppet that goes around and argues with protesters or something like that. | ||
| Triumph the shitty comic dog? | ||
| Kind of, yeah. | ||
| And so Alex has this puppet on. | ||
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God damn it. | |
| And he's trying to do a bit. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| With the guy. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| And here's how that goes. | ||
| Edgar. | ||
| I am William the Straight Frog. | ||
| I am very proud of the work you're doing. | ||
| The humans need our help. | ||
| They're up against not just zombies of the New World Order, but other demonic forces. | ||
| That's why the rise of the animated puppets, truly with souls like Pinocchio for his good works, you will be knighted soon. | ||
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You will be given the power of real life. | |
| Your work is incredible. | ||
| What do you think of the FBI mutiny and refusing to give up with the Jeffrey Epstein information, and now the FBI raid on the FBI in New York? | ||
| What are you expecting to happen, and what is your overall report card on Donald Trump during this historic Day 39? | ||
| Uh, golly, I don't know. | ||
| Look, I'm so overcome by that display, I just want to tell you not to quit your day job, Alex. | ||
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You got a big skill stack. | |
| I don't think puppetry is one of them. | ||
| Don't be offended. | ||
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Put that green bastard down. | |
| Don't make me destroy you. | ||
| You don't know the power of the dark side. | ||
| Join me, Edgar, and I will complete your training. | ||
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No, I don't mean training. | |
| I don't even have a groin. | ||
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I can't pee. | |
| Don't even worry about training. | ||
| I am going to give you life. | ||
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I have summoned you here for a purpose. | |
| What is it? | ||
| Is it this frog stick? | ||
| Let me guess. | ||
| Let me guess. | ||
| Free me! | ||
| Free me from this bit! | ||
| I forgot the question. | ||
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Can you repeat it? | |
| I'm sending it to you. | ||
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No! | |
| Edgar. | ||
| I've got no mind. | ||
| Edgar. | ||
| Did Obi-Wan ever tell you what happened to your father? | ||
| You are joking. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
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I don't think I have a father. | |
| My origin story is... | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I am your father. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That is painful. | ||
| You kind of get the sense that, you know, I didn't look into it at all because I don't care. | ||
| It's a... | ||
| Guy who does puppet YouTube stuff for probably rage bait purposes. | ||
| But he actually seems like he probably has an ability to roll with an interview. | ||
| He's got some chops. | ||
| He's done a few improv classes, for sure. | ||
| Probably because he's got to be out there doing the puppet shit with the people he's having these interviews with. | ||
| He's got to be able to respond. | ||
| I know a lot of that's probably editing, but not all of it. | ||
| And your scene partner being Alex, who's trying to do a Darth Vader... | ||
| As a straight frog, what a disaster. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's impressive how bad that is. | ||
| I've never been to any small improv theater that did not desperately need every single dollar that they could trick out of somebody into buying classes from. | ||
| And even they would be like, Alex, you can't come here anymore, buddy. | ||
| You can't do this. | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| You're ruining it for the rest of the people who work at offices. | ||
| This is awful. | ||
| Yeah, I think that the guy was trying so subtly to be like... | ||
| This is a dead end. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| This is a dead end, Alex. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| One, this is a scene that you've negated by suddenly becoming Darth Vader. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Literally. | |
| And now you're doing lines from Darth Vader. | ||
| Am I supposed to react as though I am Luke Skywalker? | ||
| You were trying to do some kind of weird spiritual callback to that or some of the voice and the character and then you became literal with it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But, like, I think that this guy has enough sense to be like, I'm a fucking puppet. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Yeah, stop this. | ||
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Stop it. | |
| Stop this. | ||
| Yeah, and if we do this, there's no off-ramp. | ||
| No. | ||
| You have to play your part in this exchange, or else it's dead in the water. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it is dead in the water. | ||
| You have to, yeah, he's left with one option, or he's left with two options. | ||
| It's been whittled down perfectly to the, I guess I'll just go, ah! | ||
| Or, Alex, you need to stop this bit. | ||
| I will remove the puppet from my hand, and I will talk to you like a person. | ||
| You've got to stop, buddy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, that's it. | ||
| Well, like, there's that Triumph bit where he goes to the, like, the Star Wars line, and there's a Lord of the Rings guy who, like, does a hand puppet to try and talk back to him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that only works because Triumph just is really mean to him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this bit could work if... | ||
| Alex allowed the insults to exist, but instead he just powers forward with his Darth Vader impression. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's rough. | ||
| Yeah, he can't... | ||
| I mean, even the choice of character, even the choice of Darth Vader is a signifier of, I cannot submit myself to a ribbing. | ||
| I can't be the one who's being bullied. | ||
| I cannot do it. | ||
| The position I must exist in in this scene is super powerful, and the only power that you have is being bestowed upon you by me. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's bad. | ||
| It's bad for comedy. | ||
| It's bad for everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| I think he's forgotten about Gene Heckman. | ||
| I think I forgot about Gene Heckman. | ||
| Which I guess is the advantage of living through his eyes, is like, every day is a new day, is a trite thing that people say. | ||
| Maybe it is! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, like, he complains about how the globalists think you all have the memory of a goldfish. | ||
| But every day has an entirely new continuity to it. | ||
| We are no longer tortured about... | ||
| 200 prophetic dreams about Gene Hackman. | ||
| And now we're excited about defending Pam Bondi and having a mental orgasm about Zelensky. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And then interviewing a fucking puppet. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I don't even, you know, and like knowing sleep science, you know, like I don't even know how long it takes me to get to 200 REM cycles to have a dream. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, because it's not every night. | ||
| And it can't be for him either. | ||
| No, and you have dreams that you don't remember. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And so for him to be alleging that there's 200 dreams that he remembers... | ||
| Absurd. | ||
| ...would imply that there's probably 400... | ||
| Tons! | ||
| Yeah, stuff that he doesn't remember. | ||
| Just... | ||
| And then to just... | ||
| I'm going to be a straight frog. | ||
| That's it. | ||
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That's what we've got. | |
| I am your father. | ||
| That's what we've got. | ||
| I'm interviewing a puppet hoping to get... | ||
| Some views from whatever audience this puppet has. | ||
| I remember so many times watching any number of programs, reading anything, all of these people hearkening back to like, oh... | ||
| If only the children knew what it was like to become an adult. | ||
| If only they could hang on to their innocence. | ||
| If only they could just recognize what they have now and value it for what it is. | ||
| And it's like, no, you shouldn't, because that's what happens. | ||
| Alex is what happens. | ||
| Don't value that shit. | ||
| Grow up, asshole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Keep your inner child and all that stuff. | ||
| Keep it in! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But yeah, if you're Peter Pan... | ||
| And you live in the unfortunately bad real world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta go back to Never Neverland, buddy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You can't live with us. | ||
| No. | ||
| Sorry, Alex. | ||
| We're not for you. | ||
| But, like, that's the fucking problem. | ||
| Is that if he actually were that Peter Pan, I would welcome him into our world. | ||
| In as much as, like, if on this episode he was like... | ||
| Oh, God, Trump is talking to Zelensky, but I can't focus because of Gene Hackman. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| If he was actually that, I would think that was great. | ||
| If he was actually tortured by his own failings, and there was internal continuity and consistency to this. | ||
| Then that would be fun. | ||
| Even if he treated it as a meta thing, even if he was faking it, but he added to his character, the expression of this character will also have a subtext of being tortured by his failure to follow God forever. | ||
| And this is the moment that it happens, and it's going to be tinged there forever. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| No, but there's an Ebola outbreak going on in Denver. | ||
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We've got the annual Big Balls Award and Gene Hackman. | |
| No! | ||
| All of this stuff, who cares? | ||
| You have failed the Lord. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back in another episode. | ||
| We'll see if Gene Heckman plays into the future. | ||
| I hope he does. | ||
| I do, too. | ||
| I'm never going to forget this. | ||
| I probably will forget this, but I'm going to try and remember it as best I can. | ||
| I feel like one of our biggest challenges is remembering all of the stuff that's happened like this, that we've been like, well, there's no way I'll ever forget that. | ||
| Yeah, we just move along, because Alex... | ||
| Because he does. | ||
| He just forgets all of his own lore. | ||
| He's got a power. | ||
| But... | ||
| This Gene Hackman thing, I think we really gotta... | ||
| We gotta stick with it. | ||
| Because I think there is something to the idea that he's been in the belly of a whale since resisting the call of God. | ||
| I think that's our 2025. | ||
| We gotta figure out something to do with the whale. | ||
| 2025 is the whale. | ||
| That's my premise that I have. | ||
| Alex is stuck. | ||
| We are the whale. | ||
| He's Jonah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, we're observing Jonah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In the whale. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Who doesn't seem to know he's in a whale. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're Statler and Waldorf-ing Jonah in a whale. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| And in some ways, we're forced to live in the whale as well because we're observing. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| Until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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