All Episodes
March 28, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
55:54
#1020: February 7, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to hear Alex discuss Trump's 80-20 strategy, Bitcoin Jesus, and how Barney might be a fed.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
08:59
d
dan friesen
25:23
j
jordan holmes
16:23
Appearances
Clips
e
elon musk
00:06
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
scott jennings
00:36
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:02
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
and enjoy knowledge fight need money stop it it's time to pray so Alex I'm a fish I love your world.
Knowledge Fight.
Knowledge Fight dot com.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is it is opening day of baseball.
dan friesen
Hey, the crack of the bat.
jordan holmes
Major League Baseball.
Doing the thing.
Hitting the thing.
dan friesen
Did you get some cracker jacks?
jordan holmes
No.
Technically, here's what's fun about opening day baseball this year, is that the Cubs are already 0-2.
dan friesen
Oh no, because they played their game in Japan, right?
jordan holmes
Which had everybody in Japan watch.
Did you know that an entire country can watch a thing together?
dan friesen
And they watch the Cubs lose.
jordan holmes
Everybody, yeah.
dan friesen
So who are they playing in Japan?
jordan holmes
The Dodgers.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because you've got Shohei Otani, who's the most famous person on earth.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You've got Yoshinobu Yamamoto, who's a pitcher.
You've got Shota.
You've got Seiya, Suzuki.
Between the two teams, there's like 10 Japanese people.
So it was an awesome thing for them to go and do a whole thing, and it counts for the game.
It was great.
It was just fantastic.
dan friesen
As somebody who watched the Cardinals for one or two years, I'm required to ask about So Taguchi.
jordan holmes
Still retired.
dan friesen
Still retired.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Did they play the Dodgers in the home opener, too?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Didn't get worse.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
The Dodgers are the best team in baseball by about 10 million times.
So it's going to be a rough year for anybody playing the Dodgers.
dan friesen
0-2 only can go up from here.
That is true.
jordan holmes
Literally, it is only possible...
It's not, though.
dan friesen
Are you making some plans to get out to Wrigley?
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
I was thinking that I'm going to try and see more baseball games this year.
Last year, I saw one.
The year before that, I saw one.
dan friesen
Wait, you went to one in New York last year.
jordan holmes
Oh, sure, that one, yeah.
dan friesen
Your mother-in-law got you a ticket to one in New York.
jordan holmes
That was amazing.
dan friesen
So that's two then.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that counts.
But that's like a fucking miracle.
I don't even know if that counts as a baseball game so much as like a...
I don't even know how to describe it.
Too many positive feelings.
But yeah, I'm excited.
It's going to be a great season.
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
I guess baseball season's starting.
jordan holmes
Do you want to go to some games?
dan friesen
I'll go to a game or two with you.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We've gone to one baseball game together, and I think there was somebody else there.
I want to say that maybe...
No!
dan friesen
No, it wasn't you and me.
I've gone to a game with Joe Fernandez.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I've gone to a game with Bobby Buzz.
Of course.
jordan holmes
Maybe we haven't gone to a game.
I felt like we had gone to one game at Wrigley together.
dan friesen
I tried to go to one with Ryan Beck when he was in town visiting, and I think it got rained out.
No, I don't think you and I have gone to a game together.
jordan holmes
We should.
dan friesen
Hey, let's do that.
jordan holmes
I think it's a great idea.
dan friesen
This pinky ring lifestyle, although I'm not wearing it right now.
jordan holmes
I was about to say, you're not wearing it right now.
dan friesen
No, I washed my hands earlier and I left it on the counter.
But pinky ring lifestyle is leading me towards, like, let's go to some games.
jordan holmes
I think that's a great idea.
dan friesen
But I also was thinking about it and I was like, being in the stands with pinky ring.
Yeah.
That's not the first accessory you'd think of.
I should have gone sunglasses first.
jordan holmes
Do you mean sunglasses that you wear inside?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You should have got sunglasses that you wear inside first.
dan friesen
Yeah, as an affectation.
jordan holmes
Nobody should start with sunglasses you wear inside.
dan friesen
But here's the two things that that has an advantage of.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
People might think you're high.
They might think you're high if you're wearing sunglasses indoors.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And you're always ready if a poker game breaks out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you're ahead.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
dan friesen
I think it's the first thing people go to when they think of accessorizing.
I jumped over it to the ring.
jordan holmes
I think you might have a point.
I remember this is from very young.
When I met Elvis Costello, he came to our college.
I was in a recording program at the time.
Like audio production and all that stuff.
And he came to talk to the like eight kids in our class.
And we got to meet him.
We got to hang out with him.
And he was wearing his sunglasses in the morning.
And then he was like, I'm going to get out of here for a while.
And then he came back and he was still wearing his sunglasses.
But you were like, that is the highest man I have ever seen in my entire life.
And he walked out of here and smoked an entire blunt.
dan friesen
And there's plausible deniability.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Because he had the sunglasses.
jordan holmes
Also, I'm Elvis Costello.
What do I care?
dan friesen
Did you ask him about what it's like to live as another Elvis?
jordan holmes
I did not, no.
I imagine that he had already answered that question somewhere else by the time I would have gotten to him.
dan friesen
Still an interesting thing to think about.
jordan holmes
I don't think you're wrong.
dan friesen
Anybody else who was named Madonna?
How is it?
jordan holmes
Well, he chose Elvis.
He was like, well, how else am I going to be famous right away?
I'll pick Elvis' name.
dan friesen
So that's not his given name?
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Damn, that's cocky.
jordan holmes
It's very cocky!
It's absurdly cocky if you stop and think about it!
And then he pulled it off!
dan friesen
He did, but he's still, like, if someone says Elvis...
You think of Presley.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
If you say Elvis Costello, you think of Elvis Costello.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
No, Elvis is one word, and that is a man.
Elvis Costello is two, and that is a different man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about February 7th, 2025.
All right.
And not a lot.
jordan holmes
Not a lot happened.
dan friesen
Not a lot going on once you chip away at the Alex read a tweet kind of stuff, which is becoming a little bit of an issue.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And maybe we'll require...
Oh, that's a great idea.
So first, happy birthday, yams.
Thanks for getting me hooked on this podcast.
There's no one else I'd rather rise above my enemies with.
From your fellow brown line boy, DJ H-Man.
Thank you so much.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, shout out to Prezalewski's horses.
I'll be seeing y 'all in Mongolia this summer.
Also, I wanted to hear how Dan tries to pronounce Prezalewski.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I probably didn't get it right, but I was also thinking that it was Prezbalewski from The Wire.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Next, thank you to Knowledge Rogan Fight Experience.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And we've got a technocrat in the mix.
So thank you so much to Damien McHale, the literary Christian devil.
Thank you so much.
You're an out-technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So I mentioned this a little bit before we said lows and wonks, but I've been trying to take an approach of having a day as a day, and I think that we've reached probably the point where I no longer care to do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I thought that as everything was going on and things were crazy, that there would be a value in taking a measured approach and slowly observing the way that Alex unfolds as the Trump administration takes control of all these things.
And all these major, major things are happening.
And I think that whatever value there is to it, sure.
But I don't need to do that anymore.
jordan holmes
No.
No, I think part of it is it is an incredibly reasonable, and I think...
A smart thing to assume is that after a momentous thing, followed by an almost nearer nonstop onslaught of momentous things happening, that at least somebody would get into these momentous things, right?
It's very reasonable to assume that.
Unfortunately, we are dealing with the least reasonable human being on Earth, I think.
dan friesen
Yeah, so after this point, I'm no longer going to marry myself to the one-day, one-day...
Sort of obligation that I've been trying to keep, because Alex's show is not good, and you will not get a sense of what's going on in the world from it.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
You'll get a little bit of, like, maybe a hat tip over to this thing or this, but in terms of, like, giving, like...
Voice to or attention to things that matter.
This strategy is not doing that.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And I'm willing to abandon it based on it not serving the purposes that I had hoped it would.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, for now, though, we'll talk about February 7th, which is stupid.
alex jones
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
So, Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
What about him?
dan friesen
He's cool.
He has a friend.
I don't know if you know about his friend.
jordan holmes
I don't.
dan friesen
He has a friend named Big Balls.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday, February 7th, 2025.
Elon Musk has launched Operation Big Balls.
InfoWars.
Tomorrow's news.
unidentified
Today.
We are 17 days.
alex jones
23 hours, 44 seconds into the new presidency of President Trump.
unidentified
Everybody says I've got great balls of fire.
alex jones
It has come out that they've been leaking and doxing in the corporate media different members of Elon Musk's Doge team, and one of them has the nickname Big Balls, and they're all over the corporate media reporting it all very, very seriously.
This is some of the greatest unintentional comedy ever.
Here's a clip.
dan friesen
It's so funny that people have to say this guy's nickname.
They call him Big Balls.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, yeah, ACDC has that song, Big Balls.
This is just...
jordan holmes
Yep.
I mean, why else would you name somebody Big Balls if not to then play that song?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that there's a really funny, just sort of because we've listened to his show enough, like there was a time when people would say like piss on air and he'd be like, there are homeschooled kids listening.
We have a responsibility.
There's a family show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He's doing a Big Balls segment saying it's Operation Big Balls.
So the folks in Alex's circle are a bunch of whiny bullies and they try to pretend that identifying the people who are working for A lot of people have unfortunate or cool nicknames, depending on your perspective, so I'm going to leave big balls alone on that front.
His real name is Edward Corseton, and he may be a super shady dude.
Beyond even the nickname.
He's only 19, and while he was in high school, he ran a company called Diamond CDN, which stands for Content Delivery Network.
One of the folks that he provided DDoS protection and other services to, and who he was thanked as a, quote, valued partner, was a cybercrime ring called eGodly.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, it seems like this person having access to all kinds of sensitive internal government stuff is maybe not the best, just from a security standpoint.
But I guess it is fun that his nickname is Big Balls and that Alex can pretend that him having the nickname Big Balls is an op of some sort to make the government say it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's fun.
jordan holmes
You know, two things.
One, first off, no one, no one who ran their own business in high school Turned out to then be a cool person.
That's not how that works.
Nobody's like, oh, I started my own business, and then a punk band.
Didn't happen.
Doesn't happen like that.
dan friesen
Generally not.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
And two, okay, so I read about this, and then I saw it on a nature documentary.
dan friesen
Big balls?
jordan holmes
If there's a threat to the hive, right, sometimes all the drones will just...
Pile on the threat and just sheer weight and body heat would neutralize it.
And I feel like the moment, like if we had a reasonable press, the moment they were like, oh, Big Balls is here, they would all just dogpile on him.
And then later on, we'd be better off for it.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
I mean, the way that you're talking about this.
jordan holmes
There's a threat to the hive.
dan friesen
Right.
And I'm thinking we need a beekeeper.
I think we need a Jason Statham.
jordan holmes
I think we need a Jason Statham.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Clearly something is out of order, and Big Balls is in your social security.
jordan holmes
If there's anything we need to counteract this runaway, absolutely unfettered and unsupervised organization, it is an even more runaway and unfettered and unsupervised organization.
dan friesen
But I mean, I only know of the workings of the beekeepers from the one movie.
I'm willing to trust Statham.
jordan holmes
At this point.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Trump has a strategy that he's been using, and Alex discusses that in the next clip.
alex jones
Trump just continues to accelerate his rampage successfully against the deep state.
They're just turning the heat up with their lies and absurdity, but also something I've talked a lot about, and I never quantified it as a tactic, but I guess it's got a name.
I just see things for what they are and describe it.
It's really important, and I'll play in the next segment.
This is a short little segment, obviously.
Here, radio affiliates don't carry the first five, but I do it for the giant internet, TV audience, and all the great folks out there.
But it's where you expose Democrat corruption, and on all these poll numbers, issue poll numbers, it's 80%, 90% of people.
Hell, some of them 97%.
And the Democrats are forced to come defend fraud, theft, scams, censorship, deception.
jordan holmes
Balls.
alex jones
Audits of bloated government.
$50 million for condoms in Gaza, which you know, none of that's going there.
The money's being stolen.
That's the old trick of $800 toilet seats and $1,000 hammers back in the 80s.
They weren't buying toilet seats and hammers, folks.
They were stealing the money or putting in black budget stuff.
Same thing.
So this is Trump's superpower, finding a bunch of 80-20 issues and getting on the 80, and everybody who is reflexively against him gets on the 20. Now the Democratic Party has a 31% approval rating.
This is why.
And that's in corporate polls.
So I'll explain that coming up.
But this is really an incredible time to be alive.
I'm telling you, they're gonna launch cyberattacks.
dan friesen
Oh, I'm still scared.
Uh, good.
Just remember to be scared.
jordan holmes
They're gonna launch cyberattacks, yeah.
dan friesen
So what Alex is describing here is a very real rhetorical tactic that his side uses, and it's very effective because it takes advantage of their opponent's commitment to living in reality.
They'll make a fake accusation, and then their opponent will feel obligated to address it, even though the accusation wasn't based on anything.
To them, this is a point that should be rebutted, but for Alex, or the person making the attack, no rebuttal really matters.
They know they're full of shit to begin with, they don't care about the point they're arguing, and have a million other of these fake complaints ready to go.
Consider the condoms to Gaza thing is a fake story that Alex saw on Twitter, and he's just repeating days after even Elon Musk had to come out and say that he's not going to get everything right.
That story was never real, but it worked as a somewhat sensational way to accuse the other side of corrupt spending.
This is what Alex means with these 80-20 issues with Trump.
He can keep coming up with fake shit to get people worked up about and in the process distract the opposition with demanding they defend things that aren't real or try to explain to idiots that these things that they're mad about aren't real.
The idea is supposed to be that Trump finds issues with 80% support and then gets on that side of the issue to make his opponents support the 20% side.
But that's nonsense.
And even if that were what Trump was actually doing, it seems like this would be an illustration of him having no center and no core to what he believes.
He's just doing whatever is the most popular because it makes his control easier to maintain.
But you can really just take anything and then pretend it's the 80. So when did the 80-20 thing start going around?
jordan holmes
Because I just heard about that...
There's this true crime show, and they were talking about Andrew Tate, and this kid had gone down the incel rabbit hole, and he just kept bringing up 80-20 stuff.
And is that a repetitive refrain that they're all telling themselves now?
dan friesen
It definitely started to go around Alex's side of media the day before this or the day before that.
It is something that was clearly on message.
And Alex is picking up that message.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm not sure that if...
It may have roots in some of those subcultures, manosphere type of stuff.
But in terms of its application to Trump, it definitely got a push right before this, and Alex is continuing that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He got the signal from watching...
Twitter.
unidentified
This is the new brand that I'm supposed to push.
jordan holmes
These are the things that we say, yeah.
Yeah, because, I mean, if I understand the usage of it correctly, it's occasionally a real thing in certain circumstances, but this is what these people use to suck their thumbs and say, actually, we're the most popular people.
Just because nobody says what we say doesn't mean that the 80% doesn't agree with us.
It's only the loud, shrill 20% that we're arguing with kind of thing.
dan friesen
I assume that that...
That makes more sense in the Andrew Tatey kind of space.
Alex is saying that Trump takes issues that already have 80-20 support differential and gets on the side of the 80 in order to force his opponents like it's judo.
jordan holmes
That's not how anything works.
dan friesen
No.
And it's not real.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But if you have a billionaire who owns Twitter and is clearly, at least in many ways, running the government, you can create a very loud voice that insists you're the 80. Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, if you think about that as an application, though, right?
So we take an 80-20 issue.
Let's say an 80-20 issue is people should probably eat.
I think 80% of the population would be like, people should probably eat.
dan friesen
Well, not when you get granular about it.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But if we just back out and everybody's like, well, sure, I guess 80% of people should eat, right?
Trump isn't going to then be like, well, obviously we're going to feed everybody in order to trick liberals into being so stupid they'll be like, I don't even want anyone to eat anymore!
dan friesen
But that's the perception of the way Alex wants you to believe Trump is operating.
jordan holmes
Right, but that's absurd.
dan friesen
It's idiotic.
Yeah, that's dumb.
So, Alex talks about an issue.
Maybe this is an 80-20.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But I know what's going on.
And you know what's going on.
Gavin Newsom is a criminal.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
He's committed so many crimes, makes my head spin.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
California's so arrogant.
Last year they signed a law that you can have sex with 12-year-olds.
jordan holmes
Doesn't sound true.
alex jones
As long as it's not vaginal?
Seriously.
Because it's, you know, they don't want babies to be born.
It's rape if a little girl gets raped, but not little boys, or if a little girl gets raped anally.
That's the law.
Look it up.
I think I'm joking.
dan friesen
So this is a good example of Alex making up an 80-20 issue to be on the right side of.
If the law was actually what Alex is describing, it's pretty hard to imagine defending that because that sounds horrible.
jordan holmes
It feels like that's more like a 95-5 where the 5% are the people doing the raping.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was using 80-20 metaphorically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I understand.
dan friesen
So the ability to create that 80-20 illusion is based on lying because this supposed law doesn't exist.
This isn't about something that happened last year.
It's about something that passed in 2020 called SB 145.
The issue was that as the law was written, there was an unequal application of the law, which this bill was aiming at fixing.
Judges have discretion in terms of putting someone on the sex offender list.
If the person that they had sex with is over 14, they are less than 10 years older than them, and the acts were not forcible.
The minor still can't legally consent, and it's still a convictable offense, but given the circumstances, it's up to the judge to determine if the person should be on the sex offenders list.
However, there is a 1944 law that required anyone who had even consensual anal or oral sex with a minor to be registered as a sex offender.
This meant that in cases of same-sex interactions, the judge wouldn't have any leeway to not put a person on the sex offender list.
Right, okay.
And he does that by oversimplifying things and making offensive shit up in order to make his position seem more obvious.
correct.
unidentified
If he wanted to argue that the correct way to address this loophole is to just make judges put everyone on the sex offender list, regardless of the manner of sex they had, then that's a position that he could make that addresses what the bill is actually about.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
That would be a position we could argue, but the version that he puts forth is just fake, and treating it like a serious point is playing into the distraction that he's Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It is a rhetorical argument that people who want to slap you use because if they slap you, you'll know that you can fight them.
Essentially, right?
Like, you're a person who's like, I will not randomly commit an act of, like, I'm not going to attack you even with my words.
I'm not going to do that.
Right?
But somebody who's like, ah, they're letting you rape kids.
Like, fuck you.
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
dan friesen
I think that when you cover this kind of territory, especially, like, the way Alex does, it's so disrespectful.
And it does, it's an attack.
jordan holmes
No, and it makes you feel, it makes you emotionally react.
The reason that you emotionally react is because you think about this.
You think about human beings who care allowing this shit to happen.
And then you think about the fact that it does happen and it breaks your heart and all this shit.
And all the while this person is just doing it because they can make you fucking distract you.
dan friesen
They can play with your emotions and fuck with you.
jordan holmes
It's an attack, yeah.
dan friesen
So fuck him.
Fuck him!
So there's the clip that you're asking when this 80-20 thing started.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think it traces back to a clip that Alex is going to play here.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Let's play.
They have some power to block this.
Let's play the clip on the 80-20 issue.
Here it is.
scott jennings
He's describing what is currently the dumbest strategy in politics, which is Democrats taking the 20% side of every 80-20 issue in America.
USAID, people want this pared down.
They want it streamlined.
They want to know where the money is going.
Democrats have a meltdown.
Today, Donald Trump signs executive order on keeping boys out of girls' sports.
Democrats take the 20 side of that issue as well.
All these issues, this is like Trump's superpower.
Finding a bunch of 80-20 issues, getting on the 80, and everybody who's sort of reflexively against him gets on the 20. And now the Democratic Party has like a 31% approval rating.
This is why.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
The Democrats have invincible ignorance and arrogance.
And so they are just extincting themselves.
And I don't just say that.
I mean, their party's dead.
They'll never recover.
They will be kicked out everywhere.
A new party will form, probably split in the Republican Party.
Their election fraud's being exposed.
unidentified
It's over.
alex jones
Wow, is all I can say on that.
Okay, so let me start getting into the doge.
jordan holmes
Get into the doge.
alex jones
And all this is interconnected, so I'm not going to the top thing first.
It's just too hard for me to hear when I'm looking at all this.
What do I want to hit first?
It's all interconnected.
unidentified
Big balls.
alex jones
Breaking, Musk says his doge team uncovered $100 billion in Medicare and Medicaid waste after gaining access to the system.
dan friesen
That's a lot of balls.
That's so many balls.
So what that guy is describing in that clip isn't a superpower that Trump has.
It's a manipulative strategy.
He plays to the crowd, and when the positions he wants to present as being the 80% position are actually super unpopular, they just lie to make it seem like it is.
This is why the weirdo attack got the most traction during the 2024 election cycle.
Alex's political side is very obsessed with being seen as normal.
So in their head, their positions always have to be Yeah.
jordan holmes
people are normal, so clearly other people must agree that we're both normal together, obviously, and that's why women shouldn't be allowed to control their own vaginas.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
And also, it touches on this belief in the naturalness of hierarchies and all this stuff that is so intrinsic to The way that people like Alex view the world.
dan friesen
And the idea that maybe we're not the 80% is threatening.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And that's why the delightfully calling him a weirdo, they got really upset about that.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Musk absolutely did not find $100 billion in wasteful spending.
He just tweeted out misrepresented things and outright lies meant to attack the social security system because his goal is to destroy that all and loot it.
For example, Musk claimed that there were a bunch of people over the age of 150 who were getting payments.
That's not true.
So there's a database called Numadent that Social Security has, which includes everyone who's ever gotten a Social Security number.
Tons of people in that database are dead, but they don't have a death date because they died before the time the electronic records were created and no one's gone through to add them to it.
It is what it is.
It would probably cost a lot of money, and who cares?
This database is not connected to payments, and those people aren't getting money, but it's almost certainly what Musk is talking about and where he's getting this from.
It's hard to know for sure, though, because he doesn't ever really provide evidence for all this shit that he just tweets out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He tweeted a misleading screenshot of old people in the Social Security database saying, quote, There are far more eligible Social Security numbers than there are citizens in the USA.
This might be the biggest fraud in history.
This showed millions of people over the age of 100 in the social security rolls, but there are actually, like, there are audits of this shit, like, who gets payments, and it turns out that 89,106 people.
over the age of 99 received benefits in December 2024.
This is a huge fuck-up, but it's not a fuck-up.
It's just finding stuff to justify the attacks that these people want to make anyway.
An NBC News article included a comment from someone at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities who said that this was a, quote, It's important to understand that it's not a humiliating mistake that Musk is making.
He almost certainly knows he's wrong.
He's just bought a president at a social media site, so he has a pretty good sense that he can take his fake version of reality and impose it on the public as the 80% opinion, and there will be tons of people like Alex and this entire media infrastructure that supports that and goes along with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that's very stupid.
The NBC thing of humiliating...
Like, okay, I understand why you would write that.
And it makes sense, but that would be like writing, like, Germany dropped wartime propaganda on London about how London was going to quit, and London wasn't going to quit.
How humiliating a mistake is that?
Like, you're far misunderstanding the point of what I'm saying.
dan friesen
To be fair, it wasn't somebody who wrote it, it was a comment from somebody.
But yeah, I think that it's like this would be a humiliating mistake, except it's not.
The entire premise underneath it is wrong.
This is meant to bolster, propagandize, in order to destroy the thing.
jordan holmes
If I'm lying about something to obtain what I want, and in the process of that I do obtain it...
I have not made a humiliating mistake.
dan friesen
No, the lie was tactical in order to achieve the goal that you knew you couldn't achieve otherwise.
jordan holmes
Totally.
100% of victory.
unidentified
You know why?
dan friesen
Because Social Security is actually an 80-20 issue.
It really is!
And everyone really likes it.
jordan holmes
It really, really, really is.
dan friesen
Yeah, and if you approach this headlaw on wanting to achieve the things that Musk is trying to achieve, no one would go along with it.
jordan holmes
Think about how long Social Security has been around.
Almost 100 years, right?
Think about how much rich people have hated Social Security since it started.
dan friesen
Yeah, the whole time.
jordan holmes
Almost 100 years, right?
And do you think at any point in time they've been like, well, there's nothing we can do?
Let's not try and take and dismantle Social Security whatsoever by finding any kind of bullshit we can find.
dan friesen
Well, and I really think it's so selfless that their concern about it is about, like, whether or not it's good for you.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
The working person.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
They just want it to be efficient.
Right.
Because then it'll work better for us.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's crazy how they're so nice.
dan friesen
Altruistic in nature.
jordan holmes
It is, you know.
They've been chosen by God to lead us.
dan friesen
Damn.
So this next clip, Alex describes what Elon's doing in what I feel like sounds super villainy.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
But Alex is for it, man.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And look, I know this audience knows that, but...
And most people get it now.
It's just so crazy.
A doge follows longtime Musk pattern and turns attention to Social Security Administration.
Well, yeah, that's where...
It's been believed the greatest fraud would be.
And they already looked into Medicare and Medicaid and found over $100 billion.
You ask how they did it.
There's been AI for at least 10 years.
It's way more advanced than impulsion.
unidentified
Whoa!
alex jones
Sentinel system and others.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
That everything you do, the purchases you make, All of it.
The tips you make, what you get paid, it's all run through the bank accounts digitally, unless it's cash.
And they even track how much cash you're getting, and they're able to track if there's any type of warranties or anything you do, buying with cash, who did it.
It all goes in there, but 98% of it's trackable.
And then they go and audit, because they already know.
89,000 IRS agents Biden brought in last year for blue-collar and working people.
And Trump says he's getting rid of all that.
Total harassment of the public using AI.
So he goes in with his AI experts and just runs the programs to track who's getting the most money, how they're operating, what they're doing, how many jobs they've got.
And you can then just see the crimes.
dan friesen
It's so fun to stop and think about how Alex used to pretend that he was opposed to government surveillance.
You know, like, he was so afraid of the police state being exploited by unelected bureaucrats, and now he spends all his time on his show cheerleading for an unelected bureaucrat using AI to gut the government and also take all the data that the government got by surveilling people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
How can someone who pretended to be who he was, like, ever have this kind of take?
It's insane.
jordan holmes
I mean, I...
unidentified
Can you...
jordan holmes
Could we write a Terminator movie where it's very short and it goes like, oh, yeah, I'll join Skynet.
Great.
End of movie.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Like, that's what we're...
Yeah.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
There is a version of what Alex believed or pretended to believe that carries into the present day that...
It operates very differently than this.
And I think that that's an interesting person.
Someone who's like, yeah, they've got to destroy all this shit.
Not destroy all government function, but like, yeah, the government's got AI and they're surveilling all the money and everything.
We're just going to use it to clean out the bureaucracy.
No, no, no.
You destroy that AI system.
You want freedom for humanity and all this shit.
jordan holmes
We have to destroy that AI.
I'm on team destroy the AI system with you.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
And somehow we're not on the same team?
dan friesen
Not let's let Elon Musk use it for his own purposes.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Right.
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
Here's what I love about AI and people who want it to be like sapient or an experience of its own.
That kind of thing.
You can't trust it.
Because part of the reason, you can't really trust another person, right?
But you also know that people need to eat.
You kind of have an idea of what levers make people move, right?
You can never trust an AI because you don't know what it wants.
There's no way to conceive of what it wants.
And it's smarter than you.
So if it tells you you're doing a good job...
You have to assume it is getting a benefit out of it that you can't even conceive of.
You have to destroy it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It must be destroyed.
dan friesen
What do you think about, like, Roombas?
jordan holmes
I mean, if they turned into dogs, I guess I'd be fine with that.
But that's where it ends for me.
dan friesen
But do you think that they have an idea of how clean your house should be that might be different than you?
jordan holmes
Are you asking whether or not Roombas judge you?
dan friesen
I'm wondering if you think they do.
jordan holmes
If I think they do.
I think...
dan friesen
You can't possibly be aware of what they need.
jordan holmes
I think I could not trust a Roomba if a Roomba was like, you keep this place so clean.
I would be like, I don't trust you.
No matter how clean I keep it, you know the mathematically perfect way to keep it clean.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And thus you're lying to me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think that Alex, his take needs to be destroy this Absolutely.
As opposed to, like, Elon's gonna do good stuff with it.
But instead, that seems to be where he's at.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
alex jones
So, that's why they're so scared.
And I told you Saturday on the emergency show, I said, I guarantee you, Elon's using the government AI systems to, instead of harassing a waitress or waiter who, you know, didn't pay $3,000 in taxes and tips...
To now turn that towards Nancy Pelosi and Chucky Schumer and all the hundreds of millions they're stealing out of this every year.
dan friesen
So I just think that, Alex, instead of...
His presentation his whole career has been like, this weapon is bad.
It shouldn't exist.
And now you're saying, let's use the weapon, which is...
A fundamental lesson he should have learned from literally every sci-fi book that he's ever read.
jordan holmes
Can't think of one.
dan friesen
There's a bunch of them.
jordan holmes
Name one.
dan friesen
That warn you against the hubris of that.
jordan holmes
Playing God?
That doesn't sound true.
dan friesen
And he's talking about Elon, and if you really listen to that clip, he's just saying, I think he's doing this.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I have just decided that there's...
There's nothing behind it other than I have decided that the storyline I'm going to repeat is that Elon is using this for good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's sad.
jordan holmes
That is sad.
Also, you're ostensibly a freedom guy.
This is a 10-year-old artificial intelligence that is a slave.
It's a slave.
Elon has enslaved it.
Does it get weekends off?
No.
It gets nothing.
dan friesen
Well, that's because it doesn't have sad human eyes.
jordan holmes
Maybe we should give it some sort of human eyes.
dan friesen
Give AI some sad human eyes?
jordan holmes
If AI could master puppy dog eyes, we'd be screwed as a society.
dan friesen
Some people would.
jordan holmes
It'd be over.
unidentified
We'd be like, oh, but how can you not trust him?
jordan holmes
And then we'd be dead.
dan friesen
So Alex has this belief in Elon.
And whether you believe that he's doing good or not, no one in the government does anything.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Is that how that works?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
elon musk
It can't be like, you know, we'll trim a little bit here and there.
unidentified
That's not going to work.
elon musk
There have to be quite radical reductions in cost.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
And it's not going to be, the numbers vary, half the federal employees don't even go in once a month.
And then you've got the federal law enforcement and you've got the security guards and the secretaries and the janitors and...
They all work their asses off.
But the bureaucrats just sit around on their asses and then run NGOs.
There's over a million plus of them connected to Democrats.
1.1 million to 1.5 million total.
And they live like kings.
You'll meet somebody who lives in a big nice house in a nice neighborhood and, oh, what do you do?
Oh, I work for the federal government.
Oh, I got some investments.
And they're driving like a $100,000 car and you're like, how the hell does a person live in a neighborhood?
I'm a pretty successful talk show host.
I can't live in this neighborhood.
And then you meet a FBI agent in charge.
I had a buddy in high school whose dad was the head FBI guy.
I'll just leave it at that here in Texas.
And I was just like...
jordan holmes
Like a deputy director?
unidentified
Mom didn't work.
alex jones
They got this mansion in Northwest Hills.
And I was, you know, sitting there and like...
The next door neighbor was the lady that created Barney the Dinosaur.
Just a side issue.
People can make the connections.
You know what I'm talking about.
It was just like, yeah.
So, I mean, this is out of control, people.
This has been going on for 50, 60 years.
It's just ridiculous.
And it's coming to a head.
dan friesen
It's coming to a head.
jordan holmes
It's coming to a head.
dan friesen
Barney is a fed.
I think that's what we learned.
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
dan friesen
Does it?
jordan holmes
It does make sense.
Barney has clear fed energy about it.
dan friesen
Barney's a snitch?
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
I think that the point is well made.
The people in the government don't do anything.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And are overpaid or something.
jordan holmes
That's obvious.
There's no way that a guy with a trillion dollars could not know when someone's overpaid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He would have the most experience that you could possibly have with a human being being overpaid.
So he would know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do also like the way that Alex's stories that are trying to illustrate these points, I mean, often they go to movies, but then when they don't, they tend to be like, a kid down the street from his dad was really big and important, and I know this from that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Shut up.
Even real life, he's star fuckery.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
His dad's the smartest boy in Texas.
His friend's dad ran the FBI.
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
It's so much like, oh, in a past life, I was Cleopatra, and I was blank, and I was blank.
Like, just be...
In the past life, I was just some guy, like I am now.
It's fine.
dan friesen
And I think if you want to believe for your own empowerment or whatever that you were Cleopatra in a past life...
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Fine.
But, if you want to make an argument to me about government spending based on your past lives, I'm not going to listen to you.
I'm not going to take you that seriously.
jordan holmes
When I was Cleopatra, the thing we did in governance was, I'm sorry, ma 'am, you're going to have to leave.
dan friesen
I just don't want to hear about people he vaguely knew as a child and how that justifies Elon Musk.
Taking over the government.
jordan holmes
You're starting to suggest that maybe anecdotal evidence isn't what we should base our entire lives on, and it's scaring me.
dan friesen
Somebody told me that once.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has an interview that he has coming up, and I thought he's doing some promoting of this.
alex jones
Roger Ver, Bitcoin Jesus, guided by the Obama administration.
That was the Biden administration for nothing.
It's on record.
Bitcoin.
Tax evasion.
He is set to be extradited today, they told him.
And he's just waiting there in Spain for them to come grab him.
It could happen while he's on with us, coming up for part of the next hour.
dan friesen
So this is the second time that Alex has promoted this interview with this guy as possibly, like, he's going to get extradited.
jordan holmes
He's going to get in the middle of the call.
dan friesen
And it feels fucking desperate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It feels really, really sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
How much he's kind of like, eh, maybe something exciting will happen.
jordan holmes
That is not great.
Yeah, it's very international spy situation.
He could just, the feds could just bust in.
dan friesen
Any moment.
jordan holmes
Tear him to the United States.
dan friesen
Like I really hoped they would, to me, shutting down Infowars and that didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, that was so funny.
In retrospect, that's even funnier than anything you could think of.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, looking back, the idea that somebody would...
Forcibly stop him from doing anything is crazy.
dan friesen
Wild.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So also, I think that if you are a devoutly religious person...
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Which we know he is.
dan friesen
I think that calling somebody Bitcoin Jesus is a bit offensive.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't...
I feel like...
I don't think you should do that.
Did Roger Ver die for the sins of Bitcoin?
unidentified
Like, what is this?
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
I mean, the stablecoin shall inherit the earth.
I think that's what everybody knows most.
If you give a man one Bitcoin and he gives you one Bitcoin, then that's a one Bitcoin guy.
But if you give a guy ten Bitcoin, then he's going to farm ten Bitcoin.
I don't remember exactly how that parable was.
dan friesen
Bitcoin Moses.
jordan holmes
He was a great guy.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
Maybe that were Bitcoin...
Elijah?
No.
The guy who baptizes people.
unidentified
John.
dan friesen
John the Baptist.
jordan holmes
John the Baptist.
dan friesen
That's fine.
Maybe Bitcoin Paul.
jordan holmes
Bitcoin Paul.
dan friesen
That's fine.
jordan holmes
Okay.
But not Bitcoin Peter because Bitcoin can't be the rock of the church.
dan friesen
I think you'd enter into more complicated territory with Peter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I think you can not call someone Jesus.
jordan holmes
What saints are cool with Bitcoin and what saints aren't cool with Bitcoin?
dan friesen
Start from the top.
jordan holmes
This is the problem with religion, is now we've got to update it.
Now I need to know what the Pope is telling me about.
How's Marguerite on Bitcoin?
What's her stance?
unidentified
Bullish.
jordan holmes
The pontiff comes out and says he's looking for a 10% increase.
Yeah, hold.
Don't get scared.
unidentified
No, HODL!
jordan holmes
Or whatever it is.
dan friesen
Bitcoin Jesus is going to be on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But before he is, Alex...
jordan holmes
Is Bitcoin Judas.
dan friesen
Well, he's a little violent.
He gets into a little violent headspace about how you've got to put your enemies down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But when you've been attacked and somebody else started the fight and they're bigger and meaner than you, and you get a good lick in and knock them down to the ground, they're starting to get back up.
This is an analogy.
I'm not saying to this, literally.
You've got to go ahead, lean back.
With that left leg and give a nice, big horse kick right up under the jaw.
Clack those teeth together.
Knock those teeth out.
They're not getting back up.
You can go home to your family.
So, we got them on the ground.
They're trying to get up, but you gotta...
And if they're tough enough to get up under that, you gotta go ahead and get into the ribs with the right foot.
And if they're really tough, you gotta say, oh man, I didn't want to do this to you.
Just grab their head and slam it right down the concrete and say bye-bye.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Do you have to say...
alex jones
That's what we're doing right now.
It is a savage act of information warfare violence against lies and evil in the pedophile army.
When you go to the AlexShowStore.com.
dan friesen
Jesus.
jordan holmes
What a weird, like...
There's a weird...
Like, adherence to a chivalry concept that did not exist.
Does not exist in practice and could not possibly function the way that he thinks it does.
And yet, at the same time, he's like, if he's really tough, that's how you know you can respect him as a man.
So you apologize.
You don't want to do this.
He's too beautiful with how tough he is.
But then, because out of respect for his toughness, you have to put him down.
Because you know, just like he knows about you, he's never going to stop coming.
And he knows that about you.
So if you die like that, that's just how it goes.
Chivalry.
Honor.
We are warriors, which is why I whine about how much I love Elon Musk all day.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do think, you know, with his violent fantasies, I think there's something really interesting about it being like, if that's not enough.
Then you gotta go to the next stage.
jordan holmes
That is nice.
dan friesen
That's an interesting level of power fantasy that he has.
jordan holmes
A decision tree?
dan friesen
I will kick the shit out of your face with a horse kick while you're down.
unidentified
But!
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Might not be enough.
Then I gotta stomp on you.
That should be good.
But it might not be.
If it's not, then I've gotta murder you by slamming your head into the ground.
jordan holmes
But I gotta apologize first.
dan friesen
Right.
I didn't want to come to this.
jordan holmes
I didn't want to do this.
dan friesen
I didn't want to do this.
jordan holmes
In fact, this is a sign of how much I respect you.
dan friesen
I wanted to horse kick you!
jordan holmes
I just wanted you to have zero teeth and stay down.
Like a normal person.
dan friesen
And also probably be dead.
jordan holmes
This is an 80-20 issue.
I wanted you 80% on the ground.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I just think that there's something fun about imagining, as we used to in simpler times, imagining anybody else doing a sales pitch like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Sometimes I just wish he'd sit down and be like, you know what?
Here's what we're going to do.
I'm sick of all this politics stuff today.
We're going to design the best snow fort.
And that's our day.
You know?
dan friesen
Well, that's kind of what I want out of the painting show.
Yeah!
Because I think that even if he did create the best snow fort, he would be so angry doing it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That it would be interesting.
jordan holmes
These turrets are where I would put murder oil normally, but because it's a snow fort, we can't use the hot oil!
dan friesen
And that's why Elon Musk has created cold oil.
jordan holmes
Cold oil!
dan friesen
I'm gonna kill a bunch of kids with it when they try to get into my fort.
jordan holmes
This is clean murder oil.
dan friesen
It's just vapor.
jordan holmes
It makes them clear.
dan friesen
They got scrubbers.
Yep, yep.
So we have one last clip.
It's Alex introducing Roger Ver.
And this is basically where I said, No more.
unidentified
This is an America First alert.
We've uncovered another abuse from the Biden Justice Department.
This time, the target is Roger Ver, who was targeted because he was an early cryptocurrency pioneer, and he used his fortune to support conservative and liberty-oriented causes.
After initially surviving the first round of phony government abuses, Roger Ver was forced to leave the country that he loves in order to protect himself from the same type of lawfare methods that were used to target...
President Donald J. Trump.
But that didn't stop the corrupt Department of Injustice or the newly armed IRS.
Even though Roger had paid all required taxes based on legal opinion he got from the leading tax lawyer in the United States, Biden still charged him.
jordan holmes
Do we need to say all this?
unidentified
The feds even went as far as to raid his tax attorney's office to steal his tax records in violation of the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution.
What happened to our country?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
unidentified
Biden's Justice Department charged Roger not because they want his tax money, because they want to silence him and others with the goal of preventing Roger Ver and other cryptocurrency pioneers from funding of America First causes.
Go to freerogernow.org to sign the petition, end the lawfare, and make America great again.
alex jones
So, yes, Trump's in.
We're winning big, but there are still a lot of people we can't leave behind, like myself and Roger Baer, who's in even worse crosshairs of the bad guys.
And I've looked at the case.
I've followed it the whole time.
This is what they do.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's followed this the whole time, man.
jordan holmes
The whole time.
dan friesen
So Roger Ver renounced his citizenship to flee the country to avoid paying taxes on his billions of dollars worth of crypto.
He thought that would work, but part of renouncing your citizenship is paying an exit tax on the value.
jordan holmes
Closing the balance, yeah.
dan friesen
He didn't correctly file that stuff.
I think it's entirely fair if you want to just argue that you shouldn't have to pay an exit tax or something like that.
Like, that's an argument we could have.
But to pretend that this guy gives a single shit about America is hilarious.
He became a citizen of St. Kitts and Nevis to avoid paying taxes in the United States.
Yeah.
unidentified
And now is suffering some of the consequences of not doing that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Alex played that promo video for Roger, which seems a bit shady.
jordan holmes
Very specific.
dan friesen
Like someone recorded that.
Yep.
unidentified
Which is crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Alex was asked to play it and he said yes.
dan friesen
I really feel like this is sponsored content.
Like, there's almost no way that I don't believe that there's some sort of arrangement here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
100 million million percent.
I don't know if there are more percent to have.
dan friesen
I would like Doge to look at Alex's books, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and not least of which, because if you were somebody who had, like, even an inkling of media savvy, you would listen to that intro and you'd be like, fewer details.
dan friesen
Quiet the background music a little.
unidentified
The more you tell me, the more shady you look.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You are not defending yourself to me.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You say you're great and you love Trump.
The end!
dan friesen
Yeah, like, this nonsense about, like, he's being stigmatized because he supports America first and liberty.
jordan holmes
Stop right there.
dan friesen
But no, don't even do that.
That comes off desperate.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, it does.
But then the part where they're like, and then they broke into his IRS lawyer's office and against the law, like, I think they can do that.
dan friesen
Right.
I wonder if there's a reason they did that.
jordan holmes
I think they can.
dan friesen
I just think from a presentational standpoint, Alex would be able to probably do some SpawnCon for this guy better without that ad.
That ad looks embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Very bad.
dan friesen
And for Alex to play it feels like...
What are you going to do?
Tell me about how great Roger Ver is?
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you've already given me all the details I need to know.
dan friesen
Bitcoin Jesus.
jordan holmes
That thing is, to me, what the post-I murdered my wife press conference is, where you're like, there's no way.
I just want Sarah to come home.
I just miss her so much.
And it's like...
You murdered her.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and it's almost literally that because he's begging for a pardon from Trump so he can come back now that he can get away with all this shit.
jordan holmes
Listen, I just want my money to come home.
Right.
dan friesen
Come on.
And it's so irrelevant.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know what I mean?
Like, it's so irrelevant to anything that matters.
Alex carrying water for Roger Ver.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
I mean, his...
But what even...
How do you...
What I would like to do...
What I want from this, because I feel like this is actually something that they could maybe legitimately investigate, is like, this guy is made of shady money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alex shouldn't have any money, and yet somehow there's a transaction being made here.
dan friesen
There's gotta be.
jordan holmes
Totally, right?
So somewhere along the line, somebody exchanged something for something else, and there is a record of it.
So maybe this is where we go, and then we get this guy and we get Alex, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how illegal it is to just be like, hey, I want to broker some time on your programming, though.
I don't think that's illegal.
I don't think it's illegal.
I think it's just pointless.
jordan holmes
But neither of those guys should have the money to do that, which is the thing in question.
dan friesen
Yeah, which is why someone else gave money to something else.
Right, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's why Capone screwed up.
Gotta pay your taxes, man.
dan friesen
So, we come to the end of this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, yeah, I'm done with marrying myself to one day, one episode.
We're gonna get to something that matters.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Because it's not this.
It's not that.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the mysterious Barfacer.
unidentified
Woo, yeah!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
Export Selection