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March 17, 2025 - Knowledge Fight
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#1017: February 4, 2025

In this installment, Dan and Jordan listen to Alex discuss how his dad suggested he commit attempted murder as a child, confirm that Elon Musk is smart, and interview a gelatin industry scammer about USAID.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
25:32
d
dan friesen
33:25
j
jordan holmes
18:32
Appearances
Clips
a
alexandria ocasio-cortez
00:08
j
john kennedy
00:11
p
peter bernegger
00:29
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:03
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your brains about today, buddy?
dan friesen
I've got two because they're kind of small.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So we'll just use them.
They'll add up to one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I was walking down the street the other day, and I found a 50-cent piece on the ground.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I was like, I haven't seen one of these things in a long time.
jordan holmes
That's crazy!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And it was on the ground?
dan friesen
It was on the ground.
It's a strange coin.
Anyway, I was like, this is exciting.
It took me back to being a kid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Finding a JFK half dollar on the ground.
jordan holmes
That's really exciting.
dan friesen
It's not exciting to find a dime or a quarter or a penny.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
50 cent piece, though.
Pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
And it's not about the money.
The 50 cent piece is unusual.
dan friesen
It's just weird.
jordan holmes
It's weird.
dan friesen
You don't see it often.
jordan holmes
For what purpose do you have a 50 cent piece?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Someone usually would have to ask for it.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And so this came from somewhere.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so anyway, it would brighten my day up a little bit, so it's a bright spot.
jordan holmes
That's great!
dan friesen
Second, I saw an Arby's commercial.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I do love their slogan, We Have the Meats.
jordan holmes
It's a great slogan.
dan friesen
Because it sounds hostile.
jordan holmes
There's no way to hear it from Ving Rhames' voice without being like, Jesus Christ, guys, I get it.
You have the meats.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I feel like I did a...
Bunch of voiceover auditions back in the day.
Did not land any of those gigs.
But I did record a bunch of stuff.
And I know that when you're doing voiceover, the ad agencies and the people will tell you how to read something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the way that it's delivered is like...
It's not being like, hey, we got all these meats!
It's, we have the meats and you don't.
jordan holmes
You better fucking believe we've got the meats.
dan friesen
We've got control of the meats!
jordan holmes
How dare you step to us about the meats!
dan friesen
I think there's something really fun about that.
Anyway, I hate advertising and I think it's a corrupt industry, but I do think that's a really funny slogan delivered that way.
jordan holmes
And also, but here's the funniest part about it to me, is that somebody came up with the slogan, right, before the voiceover.
So what was that like before the vaguely threatening, you know, what was it like just some dude in a room, Don Draper style?
dan friesen
I think here's where the kernel of the idea comes from.
Okay.
Arby's is a roast beef place.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
And so they have that meat.
jordan holmes
They have the meat.
dan friesen
But then they tried to branch out into other things, like chicken and fish sandwiches and stuff.
jordan holmes
They give it a shot.
dan friesen
Right?
And so I think they needed to assert their broad meat status.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
So you think that there's a certain amount of like, y 'all think we're just roast beef.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
We got the meats.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
We have meats.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Okay.
I think that probably is where it began.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And then they're like, what if we could make it hostile?
jordan holmes
Who do we get to deliver this?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
James Earl Jones is dead, so...
dan friesen
Samuel L. Jackson's not returning our calls.
He could have been pretty hostile about the meets.
jordan holmes
He would have been really hostile.
dan friesen
Oh, he's already doing all the what's in your wallet.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
We can't afford that.
dan friesen
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Baudelaire has a new album out.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And I enjoy it.
I like it a lot.
But here's what I like the most about it.
And I realized this while, whenever I got it, and I was playing it and listening to it, I was like, I remember when listening to Bon Iver or that kind of...
There was a certain type of person.
There was like a hipster.
There was like a...
dan friesen
A Bon Iver type.
jordan holmes
There was a Bon Iver type, right?
And now, it's just old people, man.
Do you know what I'm saying?
That's where we're at.
You don't need to feel worried about, oh, I'm a blank or I'm a metal guy.
Now you're old.
Now you're old.
dan friesen
And he's old.
jordan holmes
This is great.
I love it.
I cannot believe that people got mad in the, like, oh, kids these days.
I have seen what the kids do.
Absolutely incomprehensible.
To you.
Skibbity Toilet.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So I'm just old.
I'm happy with it.
dan friesen
There's no more pretense around your music.
There's just this college rock guy from when I would have been college-aged.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Remember, you were the guy who listened to Led Zeppelin in the 90s.
You're fine.
You're fine.
You're just old.
It's fine.
dan friesen
And one day...
Post Malone will be that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
Exactly!
The cycle of, you know, it's like a...
dan friesen
The guy who I only know from an Oreo.
jordan holmes
No doubt that there was somebody who was like, oh my god, you're still listening to Strauss?
Jesus Christ, man.
You know?
Like, Jerry, we're just old.
We all get old.
dan friesen
Good winter.
That's what Bon Iver means.
Right?
unidentified
Isn't it?
jordan holmes
I genuinely have no idea.
Is that what it means?
dan friesen
Yeah, in French.
jordan holmes
See, half the time, I'm just like, oh, they just found a collection of noises.
dan friesen
Oh, that's French.
jordan holmes
Like tame Impala.
They're not talking about it.
dan friesen
I don't know if that translates to anything.
jordan holmes
It doesn't.
I think it's literally a tame Impala.
dan friesen
The car?
jordan holmes
No, the animal.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
That the car is named after.
dan friesen
I thought we gained control over machine.
jordan holmes
Did you think we didn't have control over machines at one point?
dan friesen
I have questions.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
I think that's good to have these days.
dan friesen
I'm glad you're enjoying that album, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
dan friesen
So today we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about February 4th, 2025.
This episode bums me out.
Okay.
It's...
I don't know.
He bums me out.
jordan holmes
It's just a bummer.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's a bummer.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we'll get down to business on that in a second.
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Lineker sues Skye Awuga.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I go next.
Happy birthday, Thomas.
Rose Byrne is in this movie, and I'm going to shit my pants.
Love Spillium.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Idahoans fighting fascists.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Harley Christmas will fight the Global Council of Neighborhood Cats, but only after her nap.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
Nah.
Nah, you won't be.
So I think that we've seen in the time after the inauguration that Alex is a little rudderless.
There's a bit of...
Inability to deal with reality because reality is moving fast.
And reality, in a lot of ways, looks like a lot of stuff that he wants.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But also, a lot of it looks like really, really bad stuff.
And were he to take the time to look into any of this stuff, report on any of these things in a meaningful way, I think he would be forced to confront, like, oh shit, this isn't good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's a little bit of, we're in a Jyn story.
We're getting ironic twists to all of our wishes, but in the stories, they go like, ah, this sucks!
But in this, we're just like, actually, I think this is great!
And the djinn is like, no, no, no, no, this is really bad.
Like, it's really bad.
And he's like, no, I think it's great!
dan friesen
There's a twist to me granting your wish.
Are you not realizing that?
jordan holmes
I'm not even thinking about it.
You know what I am?
I'm just grateful that my wish is granted.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
That is...
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
Oh, you're gonna run into a wall.
jordan holmes
Well, but it's a nice wall, isn't it?
dan friesen
I guess it is.
So I have, you know, I've gone through this fairly slowly, and part of the reason for that is that I would like this feeling to be understood of his time after the inauguration.
I would like that, because I think that's the most important thing.
The way that this show does not work.
unidentified
In this context.
dan friesen
It becomes a farce of itself in many ways.
And I think that point's been made.
I think that, you know, at a certain point we'll have to pick up and get closer to present day.
But I think that at the end of the last episode, when Alex is saying, like, I've got all this secret information, but we'll just fuck it up if we try and cover it.
I feel like that's about as cathartic of a...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
As you're gonna get.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that maybe Alex felt a little bit of like, alright, I've fucked around.
I didn't get down to business.
jordan holmes
Okay, so pre, you're priming us for this episode.
Maybe Alex woke up that morning like Eye of the Tiger playing and is like, let's do this.
dan friesen
Well, it certainly seems to be the mood he's in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I am super focused like a laser beam.
And we have an incredible top researcher with the AI maps of USAID and other slish funds.
He'll be joining us in the third hour, then Roger Stone into the fourth with huge breaking exclusive intel.
And then we've just got masses of incredible news that I must and I will cover today.
You're not going to get the preaching because I'm going to control myself.
And the pontificating, because I am holding myself on a very short leash.
You are going to get laser focus, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
jordan holmes
I feel like this is not very focused.
alex jones
I feel like this is not very focused.
...that carry this exploding populist pro-human transmission.
That is a weapons system of truth!
dan friesen
So Alex, I think, is giving you the sense that he knows he's got to get down to business.
He's got to get to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Enough fucking around, pontificating and preaching.
So he goes to break.
And then those alleged 400 radio stations, which is probably closer to 20, end up coming in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so he comes back from break.
And here's where he's at.
alex jones
Trump has outperformed my wildest dreams.
Elon Musk has surpassed my wildest desires.
The execution, the energy, the fact that Trump and Elon and all of their team laugh in the face of the squeaking, squawking, pedophilic criminals.
Every bit of the messaging and the truth and the informativeness and the competency is like being held underwater for four minutes by a savage 400-pound sumo wrestler and finally getting them off of you and sticking your head back above the surface and getting that precious air.
I am beyond euphoric.
I am just so thankful to God and so thankful and humbled by all of you, not just my fellow fabulous, amazing Americans, not just my compatriots here in this republic, but all the red-blooded humans that love liberty and freedom.
And whose north star is the spirit of God shining through us, filling our sails with a crisp, clean wind of change.
dan friesen
So much for the not pontificating and preaching thing.
jordan holmes
I feel like this is very unfocused.
This is a laser beam!
This is not very focused.
I feel like we've gone all over the place very quickly in short order.
dan friesen
I think we're just rambling.
Also, you would die if you were held underwater for four minutes.
Alex, that's a long fucking time.
jordan holmes
It is a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is a long time.
dan friesen
But he brought up a sumo wrestler, and that leads me to my next question.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Which is, are you caught up on The Amazing Race?
jordan holmes
I am caught up on The Amazing Race.
dan friesen
Had some sumo wrestlers in there.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
There were a couple of them that were so funny to see him just like...
Gently walk back.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They were pushing as hard as they can, and that guy could have stood there for a million years, and they never would have moved him an inch.
dan friesen
The fact that they had to push the sumo wrestler was a cute moment for the first people, and then diminishing returns after.
jordan holmes
Ooh, got real sad at some points.
dan friesen
Because the first person had a thought of, like, we might actually have to push this guy.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
As opposed to it just being a cute moment.
Yeah.
I thought that that was an instant.
When they got to that roadblock where you could choose to put on a sumo thing or make mochi, I thought immediately this is a trick.
The mochi one looks harder, but it's easier.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And everyone chose putting on the sumo thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
It's very hard.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I would even go so far.
I'll say this.
I think...
Based upon what I know, that it is an incredibly insulting thing to describe a sumo as savage.
One of the most important things about sumo is the deference and respect shown at all times.
Savagery is simply not allowed.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So he's creating a fictional character.
There's no such thing as a savage sumo.
dan friesen
What about E. Honda?
From Street Fighter?
jordan holmes
Well, you know what?
I stand corrected.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex is just a little gloaty on this episode.
Very laser-focused gloaty.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
We have the enemy's main attack plan to crash the economy.
And even if they do that, the globalists are going to get the blame because we have information warfare superiority and the public's not asleep anymore.
And so I would advise the globalists to stop.
But it looks like they're not.
dan friesen
So this is a teachable moment, because there's a reason that Alex goes into that sing-song voice while talking about this subject.
He's gloating, like a schoolyard bully, and this is the tone that he's putting on in order to convey that vibe.
What Alex is trying to get across is that no matter what happens, he and his side have a story that the media apparatus that they've built up will push.
They are going to push that story, and Trump is never going to get the blame for anything.
If Trump's economic moves end up creating huge problems for the U.S. consumer, it's already established that this was caused not by Trump's actions, but the evil globalists crashing the stock market because they're so mad that Trump is so good.
Alex is doing this bully gloating because he's pretty comfortable with the toxic information space that he's helped usher in, and now Elon essentially presides over.
The narrative is what's important, because the narrative is what ushers human attention.
If you distract people well enough, you can legitimately override their understanding of cause and effect relationships, and you can just describe whatever cause you want to explain the effects that are happening in the real world.
This is what Alex is gloating about, that he feels like his side has defeated rationality.
He says that we have information war superiority, it just means we can say whatever the fuck we want to explain things, and we've gotten to a point where we're pretty comfortable we can just trick it.
Bunch of people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know how you can say the words information war superiority and not recognize the disingenuousness that is required for that.
You know, like...
We lie best.
That's what you're saying.
dan friesen
We lie best and have created a world where there's no consequences for that.
jordan holmes
We're really good at lying, is what you said, and that's such a strange thing to say.
dan friesen
In that tone, no less.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
That reminded me of home movies.
That reminded me of Brendan Bela- We want you to sing talk.
We want you to sing talk.
Don't sing.
Sing talk.
That's better.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Grim.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Gross.
Anyway, he's laser-focused.
jordan holmes
Laser-focused.
dan friesen
And so this is, we're about half an hour into the show at this point.
jordan holmes
We've gotten to one story?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Zero stories?
dan friesen
I think we've gotten at least two movie references.
jordan holmes
Laser-focused.
alex jones
And I go back to that Patton quote that I read on air yesterday that's hanging on the wall out there.
In fact, I'm just going to go back to that.
It's too important.
Then I'll get it on the next.
This is just too important.
Guys, I just want to have it on a hot key in there.
It's hanging on the wall out there.
Rob hung up on the wall out there in the hallway.
Out of the studio into the control room.
unidentified
There it is.
alex jones
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be.
unidentified
The enemy will be more tired, more hungry.
jordan holmes
Keep punching.
dan friesen
It's not how Patton said it.
alex jones
I love Trump and Elon.
Example.
Because my crew already is dauntless and works really hard.
But they've been trying to get me to work more.
dan friesen
It's the opposite of what you said yesterday.
alex jones
That's a first.
Like in that line.
From Full Metal Jacket that's so accurate.
I talked to Marines.
jordan holmes
So accurate.
alex jones
Especially back then that went through boot camp.
They say they have flashbacks because they dumped the script once they were just going to use that real gunny sergeant as an advisor.
And he said, this is all wrong.
So he rewrote the whole first half of the movie where they're at the Marine base before they go to Vietnam.
And so he wrote it.
I forget his name.
He's super famous.
Everybody knows who he is.
And there's that line in there.
The drill sergeants were getting really excited in the last few days of boot camp because the power of these young Marines was growing out of their control for the exact line.
But that's what I like seeing.
Because my mission has always been to become obsolete because everybody gets it.
jordan holmes
Completed!
alex jones
And then once everybody gets how tyranny operates, now this current permutation and combo operates.
It's so much fun to defeat tyranny.
It's such a pleasure.
An extreme pleasure.
I mean, sometimes, you know, I'm going to meet my wife and eat dinner or something and everything, and I'll just say, I'm sorry, I have to stay at work.
Even though I want to go eat a nice dinner and be with my wife, that's a lot of fun.
It's like, I'm sorry, this drive state, and I got a lot of drive state for eating food, you know what I mean, is not anything compared to the drive state of crushing the enemy.
What is best in life?
To have a falcon on your wrist and to have the wind of the steps in your hair.
unidentified
Wrong!
alex jones
Conan!
What is best in life?
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and the linimentation of the women.
Good, that's right.
unidentified
And linimentation of the women?
alex jones
But who are enemies?
The worst scum the planet has ever seen.
dan friesen
So we're focused.
jordan holmes
Very focused.
dan friesen
Rambling about a full metal jacket, weaving that seamlessly into a scene from Conan.
jordan holmes
I have never imagined Patton starring Grindel before, but I think that would be great.
dan friesen
Keep it behind you.
jordan holmes
Men, we're following Gollum into darkness!
Oh, God.
dan friesen
I feel like this is all over the place.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
There's not a whole lot of things to grab onto and be like...
Ah, here's what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was just kind of screaming about the lamentations of the women of the globalists will be heard and that's what's best in life is crushing your enemies before you.
jordan holmes
I question the wisdom of taking what Conan the Barbarian says about what is best in life and applying it to the present day.
dan friesen
Well, some what is old is new again.
jordan holmes
I'm not disagreeing with you there.
dan friesen
Back to the future, as Alex said on our last episode, which I think was an attempt at branding.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Maybe let's just get rid of time and just say that maybe our circumstances are not quite the same as Conan the Barbarian.
dan friesen
Do you not think that Conan the Barbarian was a Renaissance thinker?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not that!
I'm just saying that swords are far less common as a day-to-day conflict-solving device.
unidentified
Not...
dan friesen
Soon.
jordan holmes
Well, fair enough.
I guess everything old is new again.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretty soon there'll be a lot more swords.
jordan holmes
You know what I've been thinking?
I've been thinking that not enough swords have solved conflicts in my life, so apparently I have gotten my ironic consequence for this wish.
dan friesen
Yep.
So we had a lot of experience with Alex in his Sandy Hook trial.
I consulted with the Texas case.
We were at the trial.
We covered his depositions and covered the Connecticut case.
And so it's particularly funny to hear him relay his own remembrance of how he behaved.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
No, it's not sitting on your horse with the wind blowing in your hair, feeling vain like some Hollywood scumbag.
It's crushing our enemies.
It's seeing them driven before you.
And the lamentation of the women.
jordan holmes
Lamentations.
Lamentations.
And to hear the lamentations of the women.
alex jones
On the stand in their rig trial, they go, is the most important thing in your life to be accurate?
And I said, no.
It's crushing the globalists like you.
jordan holmes
But, truth.
alex jones
is the weapon that crushes the enemy.
So it's not two different things.
Comprende?
jordan holmes
Laser focus.
alex jones
Do you hear me?
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's not accurate.
It's a fun way to sort of mythologize yourself, and I get why he does that, but that's absolutely inaccurate.
jordan holmes
Well, if I had behaved, I will say this, on his behalf, if not in his defense, perhaps to damn him still greater, if I had performed the way that he did, I too would be lying about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You kind of have to.
jordan holmes
You gotta.
dan friesen
I don't know how you can wake up in the morning and have God tell you what time it is if you really deal with how you behave.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clear eyes, see the way that you did that would require a lot of changing all across the board.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the globalists, they're in trouble.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because Trump and Elon are there.
jordan holmes
Unbeatable.
dan friesen
Yep.
And so Alex, now this is one of the gifts that we have of this being a little bit in the past.
Alex predicts that the globalists are going to be gone in 90 days.
unidentified
Wow!
dan friesen
Which is almost when we're recording this.
jordan holmes
That is very soon.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's only a couple days away.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
alex jones
At the current acceleration rate, the globalists are completely smashed within 90 days.
Now, if Trump could have just stabilized in two years and removed 80% of them, I thought that would be a total win.
I thought that was about the best we'd get.
No.
It's a totally different animal.
And when Trump said, I have been reborn, I have learned a lot.
And I mean, he has been.
He has been.
Planning and preparing.
And again, even if they kill him, which they're going to try for sure, even though it won't work.
But if they're totally off balance and the whole bunch of indictments, which you know are incoming, happen with the goods, they won't even be able to do that.
And I'm just staggered by what's happening.
But you know, that's the thing about life.
People think evil's invincible.
They think it's all powerful that there'll be some, you know, You're in seventh grade, and there's some kid that's, you know, flunked three grades, and he's got a mustache, and he weighs 220 pounds, and he's always beating people up, and nobody will stand up to him.
He beats you up a few times, and you go home with black eyes, and your dad says, well, you just got to fight harder.
Well, what do I do to that?
He goes, well, he waits for you when you get off the bus, and jumps on you, and sits on you, and spits on you, and blacks your eyes.
unidentified
He goes, and he rocks around?
alex jones
Anything going on?
Next time that happens, I just pick up a piece of concrete, smash across his face, put his eye out.
My dad said, good job.
My dad's not a mean person.
He's just like, and people tried to sue us.
My dad said, fuck you.
Your son loosening my son's teeth, giving him black eyes.
You're lucky I didn't come to your house, buddy.
Who do you think you're fucking with?
People that take your shit?
You want to fight?
You got one.
Excuse me.
Let's go out with Conan, then we'll come back with all the big news.
jordan holmes
Let's go out with Conan.
alex jones
Here it is.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that that clip may include a bit of a Rosetta Stone for Alex's brain.
On a very basic level, we've never heard him say that his dad suggested using weapons against a bully, which is a bit upsetting to hear.
It's a movie kind of moment where a parent tells their child to fight back against bullies.
But it's a different thing for a parent to say, well, son, have you considered murder?
This indicates a complete disinterest on Alex's dad's part toward getting involved in his son's life.
Alex is basically on his own, except he's not.
His dad still exists as a figure that'll deal out punishments, but only when they involve his own life.
Consider how Alex told the story of his dad threatening to kick him out of the house because he was getting all those abortions, which his dad said was killing my grandkids.
It's not killing your kids.
I'm not going to get involved otherwise.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think the big tell moment here is him using his catchphrase against the globalists while he's in this reverie thinking about this bully from his childhood.
You want to fight?
You got one!
It makes a bit too clear that his fight against the globalists and all this shit is just him replaying and trying to deal with the same feeling that he had when he was a kid being bullied.
His dad refused to help him when he was growing up, so Alex tried to impress him by almost killing a supposed bully.
And that didn't really work, so his life has been a larger scale attempt to impress his dad by killing the bigger supposed bullies Alex would always overhear his dad complaining about with his John Birch Society friends.
This is kind of why Alex's beliefs and everything he's stood for has completely changed over the years, because there really isn't any principle behind any of it.
He's just fighting against ghosts in a doomed mission to get his dad to care.
And it's not gonna work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, like, you know how you shouldn't...
Now, hey, I'm not a parent.
But I would suggest not treating your children as extensions of your own self.
They are, in fact, distinct from you.
And I think, in my experience, most children who have been treated like that have later on grown up to be very resentful towards that.
It has never occurred to me that people might be like, of course I'm an extension of my father!
I am!
dan friesen
And then build up, like, a whole mythology around it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To make that okay does require mythology, I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, like, I don't know what Alex's actual childhood was like.
I don't know what his dad did or didn't do.
But I know that these are things that he's expressing.
And, like, he feels like his dad told him, get a rock, smash this bully.
I'm not going to get involved in any way.
I'm not going to talk to the parents of this kid.
I'm not gonna try and find some way to resolve this other than saying, hey, you wanna kill him?
jordan holmes
And let's not forget, this entire thing could also be Mm-hmm.
See, what you did, what you should have said, is you shouldn't be in a fight, Dad.
What you told me was to get a rock and kill the guy.
dan friesen
What Alex heard is, any weapons around?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
How can you tilt the scales?
jordan holmes
You cannot trust that he heard accurately what was being said to him.
dan friesen
No, but you can take away, at least in some ways, because Alex is communicating something.
And what he's communicating is a feeling that he had.
And that feeling is essentially, you're on your own.
And that's...
Dark.
jordan holmes
While at the same time, you are an extension of me and everything you do only matters in the context that I deem important.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Your kids are my grandkids.
jordan holmes
You know, sometimes it is like, there is a certain amount of like, yeah, if you're RFK Jr., you should be fucked up.
You're a whole fucking, if you were fine, that would throw into question to all the rest of us surviving our childhood.
dan friesen
Sure.
The only difference is that Alex isn't like American royalty and come from like Camelot.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, but he's fucked up.
Yeah.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
Big time.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, I was growing a little weary of this episode not covering anything and making me think about Alex's dad.
jordan holmes
Are you saying that you weren't laser-focused through the entire episode?
dan friesen
I was trying.
He wasn't, that's for sure.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he kind of gets to a story.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's that someone tweeted something about AOC.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So I guess that's as good as we're going to get.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
Oh, the alarm bells and sirens are going off inside the globalist command bases everywhere.
And in most cases, the Trump administration legally, lawfully, constitutionally has seized control.
And with total commitment to their promises, are flooding the zone with all the crimes and corruption and theft of our enemies that suddenly want to wave American flags.
dan friesen
Look at that huge pile over there.
alex jones
Like enemy soldiers parachuting behind enemy lines, wearing the country they're invading's uniforms, camouflaging themselves as Americans when they are certified enemies of not just America, but of every human on the face of this planet.
Okay.
Sure.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
in their covert operations for decades, and I accept the challenge.
jordan holmes
Do you have a pamphlet on this?
alex jones
You can feel it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You can see it.
The spirit of humanity is rising.
unidentified
Amazing.
alex jones
All right.
Let's get started.
With some fun.
But it's also very illustrative.
Of our enemies' mindsets, which when you see their confidence and you see the corporate media's glitz and glamour and you believe that, well, maybe they're right.
Maybe two men can have a baby.
Maybe fentanyl isn't a problem.
Maybe World War III is a good thing.
Maybe drag queen story time isn't such a bad idea.
Maybe they are going to give us utopia.
Maybe we should just do what they say.
Maybe communism works.
Maybe we should open our borders.
Maybe white people are inherently evil and need to be gotten rid of.
Maybe eating bugs is a good idea.
I mean, it's not just a reasonable thing to not go along with it.
I mean, they're reasonable guys.
Let's do it.
And when you're under the spell that I've never been under, thank God, but some people, many people have been under, and you come out of the spell, you come out of the trance, you come out of the mind control, you come out of the Stockholm Syndrome, the learned helplessness.
And you say, what the hell's going on here?
And then you get our sweet little darling, the barista, the bartender.
I think it's bartenders.
I mean, there's a lot of smart ones, actually.
But taken and put up by the establishment because she's such a mindless vessel that will execute things like an animatronic giggling robot.
And she's said a lot of hilarious stuff over the years.
Remember?
Every time I mention I want to find the video and play it again.
She's like...
And she puts on a fake, I guess, Hispanic accent.
She's never talked that before.
And she goes, we have these community gardens and there's too much cauliflower grown there that the white people eat.
unidentified
We need other things grown, not the white people food.
And...
alex jones
What the hell does cauliflower have to do with white people?
By the way, cauliflower is from Africa.
But it's white.
dan friesen
Cauliflower was originally cultivated in the Mediterranean, and AOC never said it was racist.
This was a right-wing media hysteria from 2019 about her posting a video about how the Green New Deal involved creating grow spaces where things that were relevant to local communities should be grown.
Cauliflower was just an example that she used of a plant that wasn't used in much like Puerto Rican cooking, so for a Puerto Rican community, it wouldn't make sense to grow that, but yucca would.
And she pronounced yucca, uh, yuca.
And then Puerto Rico.
And that's the accent that Alex is saying that she put on.
jordan holmes
That's what he was trying to do?
dan friesen
Yeah, when she pronounced yuca and Puerto Rico.
He's just very triggered by that, apparently.
jordan holmes
I mean, sometimes it's nice to know that I was feeling like he was offending the wrong group of people.
I was assuming that he had...
dan friesen
Oh, I'm sure he is.
jordan holmes
There were tons of different possible groups of people whose accent he could have been trying to be offensive towards.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
I did not instinctively choose Puerto Rico.
dan friesen
We're pretty far into this episode now, and I don't think that Alex has lived up to this focused and on-the-ball thing.
jordan holmes
Doesn't feel like it.
dan friesen
Got kind of the first news I put in quotes that he's getting to, and it involves making fun of AOC for something she didn't say.
And I don't even know what the new thing is.
Like, he's just talking about something from six years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That he and all of his buddies made a fake version of in the information war, and now he's laughing about now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Crushing it.
dan friesen
So do you know what AOC said?
jordan holmes
I don't.
I don't.
Do you know what?
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
When we were, you know, Chicago, I take the public transport often, which means that over the years, I have occasionally walked in on multiple unhoused people having a time with their own bodies.
dan friesen
Talking about a little...
jordan holmes
Not great.
Not what you want to see.
I felt like exactly that right before Alex goes, okay, let's get started.
Like, that little bit was just for him.
And it did not make me feel comfortable.
dan friesen
Well, I think that that would be like walking in right after the person had finished.
jordan holmes
With a self-satisfied smile on their face.
That's not what I wanted to see, sir.
dan friesen
The ooh, let's get down to business is more like the refractory.
So, you don't know what AOC said?
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
What'd she say in 2019?
dan friesen
No, this is new.
jordan holmes
Oh, this is new.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In 2019, she said that community gardens should...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Cater to the local communities.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But now she said Elon Musk isn't smart.
alex jones
And then you get AOC in one of her latest or latest fabulous comedy saying, quote, Elon Musk is one of the most unintelligent billionaires I've ever met or seen.
And the poster said, who's going to tell her?
I said, in response to reposting it on X at Real Alex Jones, the globalists would hate it if you followed me and shared the videos and articles.
That might hurt the globalists a little more.
Don't do that.
Oh, please.
Elon Musk is the most intelligent person on the planet when it comes to wide-spectrum knowledge and force of will.
AOC is one of the most un-self-aware people on Earth, but also one of the greatest unintentional comics in history.
dan friesen
So AOC put out a video where she said that Elon Musk wasn't very smart.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Alex has tweeted back about this, and now he's covering how he tweeted back at AOC about how Elon is smart.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is like when I walked into a train car and saw another unhoused guy helping out another friend.
dan friesen
Is this show just about Elon being smart now?
jordan holmes
I don't know why we're doing this.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
What is it about this man that people cannot cross the line of being like, oh, he's an idiot?
dan friesen
It's, I don't know.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I can't understand it because I've never got it.
Like, I've never really looked at him and thought, like, ah, here is a great, wise person.
Even when he wasn't such a toxic fucking presence as he's become over the last few years.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Even when he was just a really rich guy who was, I don't know, I want to dig holes under cities and play with flamethrowers.
jordan holmes
I remember that.
dan friesen
Even back then, I didn't think that he was that great.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
So I don't see what the allure is that you can't shake off.
But Alex is in deep.
This is bad.
jordan holmes
This is not good.
dan friesen
No.
And it gets to a point where he's so offended that AOC would suggest that Musk isn't smart, that he has to get into the complexities of intelligence.
He has to start...
jordan holmes
Don't do that.
dan friesen
Oh, no, this is a...
jordan holmes
No, don't do that.
dan friesen
This is very smart stuff.
jordan holmes
Strong recommendation against it.
alex jones
The average lebtard is taught one-spectrum analysis, not even third-dimensional understanding, or first-level...
Responses or issues.
They're certainly not taught second level consequences or third level or fourth level or they tell you there's not even a third or fourth level if they studied it.
Because they're designed and brainwashed and put in a position of being automatomics or automatons.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
Metropolis-style biological androids.
Regurgitators.
Puppets that parrot what they're told.
So, they will say, oh, Jones is an academic.
He just said, Elon is intelligent on the force of will scale.
They don't even know that real intelligence is not quantified by a simple IQ test.
That is only one approximation.
jordan holmes
Do people not know this?
alex jones
The spectrum of the educational systems labels.
But he does have a very high IQ on that scale or that gauge.
Real intelligence is having a conscience.
Having innate programming God gave you to have a conscience.
That is one of the most important forms of intelligence.
Then there's the intelligence to be able to appreciate beauty.
Then there is musical intelligence.
Mathematical intelligence.
Aesthetic intelligence.
unidentified
Wait, why is then their musical intelligence?
alex jones
Physical intelligence.
Which, a high-capacity, fast-moving Brain, it's physical, but it's also the body's physical intelligence.
The cells, your immune systems, your great immune system, it has a high intelligence and high energy electrochemical operation.
And so I've told you a thousand times a thousand, the most powerful people have wide spectrum intelligence.
dan friesen
And then they apply it, So Alex loves to go into these kinds of blowhard abstract ideas about how your immune system is a sign of intelligence when he needs to defend how smart some dipshit he likes is.
But...
He's also the same person who supports the ideas of books like The Bell Curve.
He believes that there's a meaningful connection between race and IQ and has used low IQ scores as a reason why some cultures are inferior to others.
If you pay attention, it's really easy to see the trends and who gets to enjoy the benefits of having broad-spectrum intelligence and who's judged by their imagined low IQ.
It's mostly if Alex thinks that you're white and if you support...
White supremacy.
jordan holmes
It helps.
It helps to...
Because you got a leg up.
Because it was made for you.
That also helps.
dan friesen
Well, like the people that Alex yells about, like these are low IQ populations and stuff.
He doesn't give the benefit of like musical intelligence or their immune systems or whatever.
This is bullshit blowhard nonsense that he's using just to be like Elon Musk is superior.
jordan holmes
What I like about...
Is that, ironically, it has been one of the easiest ways for me to sift out who I deem smart or not smart.
How much you talk about it.
Right.
The more you talk about it?
Nah, I know.
dan friesen
What context do you understand that measurement to be in?
That's a good...
jordan holmes
Oh, he's got a high IQ!
I do not care.
dan friesen
But I do think that there is something telling about this.
It's super complex and all of this shit when it needs to be, and it is not when he needs to malign and demonize other groups of people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So cool.
Enjoy that.
jordan holmes
It's always, and it's an excuse for my guy who's, it is such cult leadership.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It is such, like, my God could beat up your God.
dan friesen
And I'm offended that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez would dare.
jordan holmes
How dare you speak ill of supreme leader?
dan friesen
Right.
She should just submit.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
And then, oh, best-selling electric cars.
Super innovation, launch more satellites than everybody else in all of history combined in just a few years.
And they work great.
I got...
jordan holmes
Did he launch them?
alex jones
I think it better and better all the time.
First put them in a few years ago.
Worked okay out in the country.
Got what I needed done.
Thought a year later, this is really fast now.
Now it's like, God almighty, this is badass.
Game changer.
And it goes on and on and on.
And we're supposed to recognize brilliance.
We're supposed to get behind it when it's behind us.
But no, no, no.
She doesn't go, oh, maybe I should work for this team.
She's so stupid.
Because if she was smart and evil, she'd roll over.
But no.
Because she's dumb.
Dumber than a box of hammers.
The only intelligence she has is a little bit of charisma.
That's it.
unidentified
What?
That's all.
alex jones
And not ugly, but she's so stupid, she's really ugly to me.
I'm super gorgeous women.
jordan holmes
What the fuck do you need to do?
alex jones
I mean, she's like, you are gross, lady.
You can have a woman that's not classically physically attractive, but smart.
I'm just like, wow, talk about sexy.
That brainer.
unidentified
That brainer.
alex jones
All right, let's hear from this sad creature.
Here it is.
alexandria ocasio-cortez
This dude is probably one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met or seen, or witnessed.
unidentified
Which, you know, you can probably even glean that from watching these people on TV.
dan friesen
I would describe this as laser-focused.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
I just, I think that the, like the...
Fucking Alex Jones, prison planet kind of guy.
The guy who's like standing up, telling truth to power.
I really don't think that meshes well with the, hey, we're supposed to recognize geniuses and then submit to them.
Do you understand that?
jordan holmes
If you were smart and evil, you'd roll over.
dan friesen
Right.
I'm smart and good because I've rolled over.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What?
Okay.
dan friesen
Huh.
jordan holmes
So wait, if you're smart and evil, you'd roll over.
Does that...
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Oh, I guess that does kind of imply that Alex could be smart and evil.
But he could be smart and good, too.
But either way, the mark of smartness is submitting to Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's dark.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of requiring as many paragraphs as possible to say, she does make my dick tingle, but I still disagree with her politically.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, you can just say those two sentences.
That's one sentence.
dan friesen
She looks good, but I don't like them ideas.
jordan holmes
I think she's hot.
I don't think she's a qualified politician, probably because of the first one.
Very uncomplicated.
dan friesen
And then he does that thing where he's just tapping on the desk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like in shame for him.
But I don't think she's actually attractive because thinking things makes her stupid.
dan friesen
Laser focused.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So at this point, Musk is primarily trying to target the USAID, USAID department.
And so Alex talks about that, and I'm like, ah, meat.
Here we go.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
We'll get to some substance.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
We just get to a British voice.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
When you see the desperate leftist surrounding, they're still there today, the recaptured federal agency, USAID, they're scared.
And not because totalitarianism is coming for them, but because Their oppressive, tyrannical, hyper, totalitarian boot is being removed millisecond by millisecond from our collective necks.
And all the corporate media and all their dirty tricks and all...
Pull their little cards up their filthy little sleeves aren't just having no effect.
They are enraging and empowering with moral will.
Those of us who have labored as Winter soldiers and paid high prices in the trenches of the information war.
We were becoming stronger under the pressure while they decadently preening themselves on high.
unidentified
surveyed us as mere mortals to be poisoned, dumbed down, abused, robbed, and finally Is that his Puerto Rican accent?
alex jones
Do I sound more intellectual to the self-supported liberals now?
unidentified
Would you like me to affect elitism for you?
alex jones
Would you like me to...
unidentified
Yikes.
dan friesen
That was nothing.
jordan holmes
That was the opening scene to Patton.
dan friesen
That was nothing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was a big empty waste of everybody's life.
dan friesen
I don't know shit about what's happening with USAID.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
There is nothing being communicated there except for Alex has a chip on his shoulder about people with British accents.
jordan holmes
I don't know what else to say other than yes.
dan friesen
I've never heard anybody who talks even close to that.
And I don't have any relationship with giving more credibility to media because something sounds British.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Or anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know what this connects to other than Alex feeling like the way he talks was never respected.
Like he would talk like a wild Texan or whatever and that like he didn't get a shot at the table.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I wonder if it's just something that like because there was that stretch.
And I mean, it's still a trope now, but there was that stretch where every villain had to be an effete British guy.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
And I think that Alex probably came up in a period where that was probably more of a...
jordan holmes
I think maybe he's just internalized that as being a thing that we all believe, is that villains have an effete British accent, as opposed to that was a trend for a while.
dan friesen
Yeah, or that, like, you know, Klaus Schwab speaks with an accent.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that Alex thinks that that gives him more credibility to people, as opposed to that's just how he speaks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, I think that...
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
And I think part of that is because Alex's voice is fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that that is a piece of...
This is a bit of performance.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think there is a difference, and Alex doesn't understand it.
There is a difference between having a British accent...
Because that's how you learned how to speak English.
And having a different accent because English is your second language.
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't think he understands that concept at all.
dan friesen
No.
No, why would he?
It's an elitist concept to imagine you could speak two languages.
jordan holmes
I think that is kind of...
Yeah.
dan friesen
Bunch of bullshit.
Anyway, that was mostly noises.
jordan holmes
So in a way, he does speak two languages.
dan friesen
Grunting and...
jordan holmes
Grunting and...
unidentified
Yeah, that's about right.
dan friesen
And words.
jordan holmes
And words.
dan friesen
An approximation of words.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Bill Gates, he's back on...
He's out of control.
jordan holmes
Back on his bullshit.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
alex jones
Bill Gates has reared his desperate, ugly head, always trying to act like he's nonpartisan, but behind the scenes attacking any patron.
He's the field marshal of the death cult's depopulation plan.
And he has come out and attacked us, calling him a criminal.
He has said, oh, and don't worry, a new pandemic will kill a bunch of you if you don't do what I say.
So now he's like, I've got other bioweapons.
I've got other bioweapons.
jordan holmes
Is that what he said?
alex jones
They're scared.
And as Dr. David Martin said yesterday, they got 60-plus known bioweapons on the shelf that Gates has got.
Bill Gates is a clear and present danger to civilization and every life on the face of this earth, including his own.
Bill Gates worried about Trump must exposing U.S. aid.
Waste of corruption claims new pandemic will cause millions of deaths.
What did Hotez say?
Oh, we'll block Trump's agenda.
When a new pandemic comes crashing down on him, he started laughing.
We'll stop him.
unidentified
My boss, Bill Gates, we've got something ready for you.
dan friesen
Just more great impression work.
So Hotez didn't say that, and obviously Gates was commenting on how indiscriminate cuts to USAID grants and projects would make it more difficult to respond in the context of a future pandemic, but Alex doesn't deal in accuracy, so I don't really care to squabble about the details and the lies here.
I just don't understand how Alex can't just get up and call for...
Bill Gates' death.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
He's a danger to humanity and himself.
He's planning a bioweapon release.
If you believed any piece of this, you couldn't risk him living another day.
It's not just that Bill Gates' preferred policies won't lead to the kinds of outcomes that Alex wants and that people will be hurt in the process.
It's that Gates has a supervillain planned to kill off most of the population.
I'm just sick of these games.
Alex is supposed to be fighting the devil and he's acting like a con man trying to protect his own ass.
Like, just call for his blood or whatever.
Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing?
jordan holmes
I mean, regardless of whether or not you believe he's good or evil, he's a private entity, an individual with 60 known extinction event causers on his shelves.
dan friesen
If you believe any of this shit.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter if he's going to use them or not.
You cannot allow him to live.
He's too dangerous simply by existing.
Now, let me ask you a question.
All right?
So he's got 60 murder things on the shelf.
What do you see?
Do you think they're behind a bookshelf?
Do you think he's got the spin around bookshelf and then it's all white and there's like maybe some smoke, you know, some steam or something from it being kept cold?
And then there are little beakers?
dan friesen
Sort of.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But actually my...
I don't know all the right words.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But my mind went a little more mid-century modern.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe a little Jetsons-y.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like you press a button and a bar comes out of the wall.
jordan holmes
Oh, right.
I'm liking that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that.
dan friesen
And then it's like a fake bar, and instead of liquor, you have the...
jordan holmes
You've got all of them lined up?
dan friesen
That's kind of how I imagined it.
jordan holmes
I like that.
That's good.
dan friesen
You went to the bookshelf, I imagine.
jordan holmes
So you go with the bookshelf, it spins around, right?
And then I've got little, like...
Fancy spinning beaker kind of designs for, you know, because if you're going to have a world-destroying virus, you put it in a nice little beaker, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's got to be sealed.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, it's sealed.
But, you know, there's a couple of little spirals in one of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, a swirly straw.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a little swirly straw, absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Whatever, however he maintains it, I just can't deal with Alex pretending to believe this shit and not be like, got to take him out.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
It's nuts.
jordan holmes
I also, I question a man who doesn't stop at like maybe 10. Right.
You know?
dan friesen
It's too many options for world-destroying pandemics.
jordan holmes
One is too many to have because we'll all die.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Two?
Crazy.
Ten?
Absurd.
Sixty?
That's an addiction.
dan friesen
Yeah, these aren't Pokemon.
jordan holmes
No, what are you doing?
dan friesen
You don't need to collect them all.
jordan holmes
Why are you making them and then putting them on your shelf?
You got 10. Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, crazy.
It's...
Kind of like a villain in a movie.
jordan holmes
It's almost exactly like a villain in a movie.
Like an over-the-top villain in a movie.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange.
jordan holmes
Like the Avengers.
dan friesen
So Alex quotes Shakespeare.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then gets mad about imaginary people on Twitter getting mad about him quoting Shakespeare.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Because he's not Christian enough.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
alex jones
The whole world is a battlefield and each of us warriors upon it.
That's an Alex Jones quote.
I quoted last week.
My mother, when I was little, 5, 6, 7, would read to me these big volumes from where they are.
We had to find those.
They have huge storage facilities full of books.
They never throw them away, but you see them come and go.
Big, huge, thick sets of William Shakespeare plays.
And she would just, at breakfast sometimes, let's just read a few passages from this.
jordan holmes
Page one.
A white man's burden.
alex jones
One time over a few months, off and on, she read to me all of William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.
And so there's a quote out of that, which is based on history, but somewhat fiction.
But William Shakespeare said, there is a tide in the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune.
And I said, some people want money or power or whatever.
But I said, my real fortune I want is freedom and competition and a vibrant new renaissance.
And I went and looked at the comments, because I love comments, and I saw quite a few people saying, I thought you were a Christian.
What does that mean, being excited about human activity and innovation in the renaissance?
God gave us that.
Or quoting William Shakespeare.
But it's strange, too, how the old guard fake conservatives that sat here and hid in their churches while all this evil went on, and then they just run around like Pharisees or Sadducees, praying in public and telling you how holy they are.
And then the strangest things...
Go grab that from X last week.
I think it was Friday.
I'm in my car.
I'm wearing a red shirt.
I'm driving.
I just felt like saying it.
There is a tide in the affairs of men when taken up the flood leads on a fortune.
And just, it's weird psychology.
Like, you thought I was a Christian.
Well, not your type of Christian, I'll assure you.
No, not the people that sit around and tell people about the speck in their eye when they got a beam in theirs.
You just stay in there.
Where you're at, we'll do the heavy lifting from here.
I don't even know why I'm bringing that up.
It's just weird.
Weird things that will trigger the fake Christians.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is weird.
unidentified
That is weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
This show is stupid.
jordan holmes
Very dumb.
dan friesen
Alex thinks of a quote that he's attributing to himself that is a rip on a Shakespeare line.
And he remembers his mom reading him Shakespeare when he was a kid.
And he remembers that a couple days ago he tweeted something that was from...
Shakespeare.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then people said that he wasn't a Christian.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And he got into a Twitter fight with people about this, and it's still bothering him.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Why?
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
I think we've all grown up wanting to live lives of consequence, and Alex, what can you say but that will change the world?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
This little Twitter back and forth that you had about whether or not it's Christian to quote Shakespeare.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I do think there's some incredible truth to Alex's, you thought I'm a Christian?
Not like you.
jordan holmes
Yes, I agree.
dan friesen
I think that that is...
jordan holmes
Explore that.
Yeah.
Dig into that, Alex.
Really get in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't like the soft things about your Christianity.
jordan holmes
I don't like that whole Jesus figure y 'all won't shut up about.
dan friesen
No, that guy is soy.
jordan holmes
Real piece of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Cuck.
dan friesen
So, Bill Gates was on The View, and that's really what started all this.
jordan holmes
Bill Gates was on The View.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, AOC put out a video that said that Musk wasn't smart, and Bill Gates was on The View, and Alex had a Twitter interaction, laser focus.
jordan holmes
Very important stuff.
dan friesen
So, here's a little of Alex on that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
He thinks running to The View.
Show that a bunch of...
Women, they don't have much of an audience anymore, but there's still, you know, it's a pocket of them.
So a few million women that watch it.
jordan holmes
That's a ton of people!
dan friesen
They're women, though.
alex jones
What's that gonna do, Bill?
It's all coming out how you finance the bio-attack, you murderer.
Hell, he exposed it five years ago, but now it's everywhere.
Oh, you thought you'd hit us with the attack and then you'd get away with it.
You thought, okay, well, they'll forget about it.
No, we're not forgetting.
Son.
I got family members that were super smart.
Smartest people I ever knew.
Who aren't smart anymore.
And who are real sick that you almost killed.
And you killed some of my friends.
unidentified
So I'm not ever going to forget about it.
alex jones
Understand?
unidentified
Thank you.
Because I get to see the wreckage of what you did every day.
alex jones
Not just to me, but everybody else.
And all the kids dying with damn heart attacks.
It's all admitted because of you.
You just murder us at will.
You can't just murder us at will.
unidentified
And I think you know where this is going.
alex jones
I'll get to him in a minute.
Here's Senator Kennedy.
john kennedy
To my friends who are upset, I would say with respect, you know, call somebody who cares.
alex jones
They better get used to this.
It's USAID today.
john kennedy
It's going to be Department of Education tomorrow.
alex jones
And it is.
They've announced today, new executive order incoming.
Oh, while you're worried about your USAID little money laundering operation, we're about to take down the big one.
And then while you're busy fighting that, we'll hit 10 more.
And then 10 more.
And then the prosecutions.
unidentified
It's what a rout looks like.
alex jones
It's what being vanquished looks like.
You can smell it.
All those cowards burning up metaphysically right now.
dan friesen
Alex is a coward on a level that you can't really put into words.
Just put a bounty on Gates' head already.
What are you doing?
What Alex is saying about how Trump's administration is dealing with governing is right on though.
The only way they'll ever be able to get anything done is by causing gigantic messes that need to be dealt with in the courts.
While the courts hear these cases, they move on to causing another giant mess that will need to be dealt with in the courts later.
As the process goes along, they cause unfixable damage and force out tons of workers who would be needed to keep the government processes functioning as normal.
Inevitably, this will cause severe problems, which will then be blamed on some vague deep state actors.
For a perfect example, the cuts in public health funding will result in greater infectious disease exposure and probably a lot more death from preventable conditions, maybe even another serious pandemic.
Instead of accepting that this is partially due to the attack on public health funding, it'll be contextualized as a bioweapon attack by someone like Bill Gates who was mad because they cut the public health funding and he lost all his money.
They cause the damage and then use storytelling to shift the responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
This is a functional model now.
Right-wing media saturation is to a point where Tucker Carlson can pretend he was attacked by a demon in the middle of the night and he still has a career.
These figures can shift blame and control the narrative for a significant amount of the population, but in order for this to work, the people in power have to...
Keep causing that damage in the first place.
I suspect that Alex understands this, that his side would never be able to calmly convince any group of rational people to go along with their plans.
The only way he'd ever be able to see the world that he wants come into being is by brute force and pressing the attack while the other side struggles to keep up the infrastructure of democracy.
It's so much easier to just wrecking ball destroy shit than it is to fix...
Or build.
And Alex knows that.
And that's what he's cheering on.
He's cheering on just wholesale demolition.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Because I think he knows he's not going to be hurt.
jordan holmes
No.
I don't know why he's not even...
Like, why hold back?
dan friesen
Right.
At this point...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The entire power structure is going to defend you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Can you even imagine somebody being...
Yeah.
Nobody's even going to be mad.
dan friesen
No.
Like, if he literally called for the death...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Of Bill Gates, put money on his head, he'd be pardoned.
jordan holmes
I mean, and not just that, but in the world we're living in, people are still making Go Luigi memes all over the place.
So I think you're fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Go whole hog.
Smoke him if you got him, buddy.
dan friesen
It seems like that may be the case.
Yeah.
And I think Alex is just used to the game that he plays.
jordan holmes
It is!
He's not for this time.
dan friesen
No.
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is ironic.
He's said often, again, we're talking to the djinn wishes.
I wish to be made obsolete.
Well, not right now!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I need a few more bars of gold before I'm obsolete.
jordan holmes
I wanted to be obsolete when I was dead.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex screams a little bit about Bill Gates because he was on The View.
Who would go on The View?
Well, Alex did when Charlie Sheen had a meltdown and they invited him.
jordan holmes
Well, who wouldn't go on The View?
dan friesen
Right, fair enough.
alex jones
Now let's talk about one of our main enemies.
Bill Gates.
Articles up on Infowars.com.
I suggest you share it.
He makes a threat.
unidentified
Oh, new virus, if we don't do what I say, it'll be his fault.
alex jones
He already told us.
I'm in charge since Fauci's so unpopular, even though he said he's the new Fauci.
Fauci's my mentor for 40 years.
He tells me what to do, oh, Ted said.
And there'll be new viruses that crash in and stop Trump.
And it's like, literally, it looks like Renfield in a Dracula movie.
jordan holmes
Is that his Puerto Rican accent?
alex jones
And here's Bill Gates and Borla and Tedros, the UN.
unidentified
Oh, the new pandemic will stop Trump.
alex jones
Okay, well, we all know you're going to do it.
I mean, you think you got in trouble last time.
Don't do it, Gates.
Don't do it.
Stop it.
Stop it.
I don't think he will stop, though.
See, some of them aren't going to give up, but that's okay.
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
I just have a...
unidentified
I just have a thought.
alex jones
That Bill Gates is probably under a lot of surveillance right now.
And somebody like him...
Yeah, I don't think he'll be...
I don't think he's going to be much more of a problem very soon.
dan friesen
Seems like if Gates is under surveillance by the government, then it'd be pretty hard for him to launch another pandemic.
So I guess if I'm supposed to believe anything Alex says is real, then that threat is neutralized.
There's no reason to believe that Bill Gates is even capable of doing anything if he's completely under surveillance and Trump is going to get him.
So that's the thing, right?
He's a threat or he's not.
And Alex seems to want both.
If he's under super Trump surveillance, then there's nothing to worry about, which satisfies what the audience wants to think about Trump, but it also leaves them with nothing to be scared about.
If Trump truly has this under surveillance, then you can't really use Gates as a scapegoat for the next possible health crisis without saying that Trump knowingly allowed it to happen.
I guess that's not probably that big of a problem, though, since Trump did Operation Warp Speed and was president during most of the pandemic lockdowns, his fans have been able to rationalize that pretty well, so I don't think it's a problem, but you see these internal inconsistencies.
And that's what happens when Alex just...
Kind of flies by the seat of his pants.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, it does feel like at a certain point, we reached a level where he could just be like, you'll get over it.
You know, like, that doesn't make sense.
Yeah, but you'll get over it.
And then we just move on.
And everybody's like, I guess I will get over it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Hey, you guys struggling with that Ebola in Denver still?
jordan holmes
You'll get over it.
dan friesen
You'll get over it.
jordan holmes
Okay, I guess we will.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So why spend all this time struggling?
Let's just get over it.
unidentified
Damn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
dan friesen
So Alex said that there was going to be an AI expert who's going to help break down all this government fraud, right?
jordan holmes
Oh, is this our health ranger?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, we've got a different AI expert who's not an expert in AI.
dan friesen
This actually kind of is a great classic type of InfoWars guest, which is someone you've never heard of with a shady past.
alex jones
So I'm going to try to give him the floor here, but his work on election fraud has been very instrumental, but in stopping a lot of it and mitigating it and creating a blueprint for Trump's investigators to go in and block a lot of it.
But that now is being eclipsed by his work on the fraud in the NGOs and up the chain to the State Department and the rest of it.
So, Peter Berneger, thank you so much for coming on with us today.
This is a complex but critical issue, central to retaking our republic.
How should we start with the audience who is smart, but still, this gets into rocket science level stuff.
How do you quantify what's going on and then start drilling into it?
peter bernegger
Well, first, thank you, Alex, for having me on.
And it's not just me.
There's a team of us across the United States that have been volunteering our time.
dan friesen
So Peter Berniger is not an AI expert who tracked down election fraud and now is uncovering the truth about government waste.
jordan holmes
I'm really surprised by that.
dan friesen
He's a dipshit conspiracy theorist who's wasted countless hours of people's lives with harassment about the 2020 election, to the point where he's been warned by the Wisconsin police that his actions could be seen as stalking, and he was charged with a felony.
for illegally modifying a subpoena.
Sure.
unidentified
That's a case of him committing fraud in order to make it easier for him to achieve his goals.
dan friesen
In this case, making a big show out of fake election theft information.
Probably unsurprisingly, Peter was convicted for felony mail and bank fraud charges in 2009 in Mississippi.
He and his associate, they'd started a company called WeGel that claimed that they could make gelatin out of catfish waste product, but he was full of shit about being able to do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
That was all a lie.
jordan holmes
That sounds like a huge lie.
I like that lie, but yeah, that's a bad one.
dan friesen
Despite his inability to do the thing he claimed he could...
Peter defrauded investors out of millions of dollars.
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
One of my favorite things about this case, I read the court filing of the appeal.
He appealed his conviction, and part of it was affirmed.
But the only thing that was really affirmed was like...
I shouldn't have to pay back that much.
And they were like, yeah, some of this maybe isn't illegal.
So instead of having to pay a little north of $2 million back, he had to pay like $1.4 million or something like that.
jordan holmes
That's a 25% reduction.
That's good negotiating.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
jordan holmes
That's not bad.
dan friesen
But if you read the court filing...
This is really funny.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, David Cooper, an investor who also worked as a chemist for Finch and Berneger, testified that he asked Berneger why he did not tell the investors the truth in these letters, to which Berneger replied, quote, they can't handle the truth.
unidentified
That...
jordan holmes
I mean, I think that is...
I think that's probably accurate.
unidentified
That's awesome.
jordan holmes
I bet they couldn't have handled the truth.
dan friesen
Yeah, because it's a scam.
jordan holmes
Because you're defrauding them.
I'm scamming you is not a truth most people like to handle.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
In a sense, they can't handle it.
dan friesen
They can handle it, but they won't respond the way you need them to handle it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So he was sentenced to having to pay back a large amount of money and 70 months in jail.
Anyway, Berdiger is the grandchild of the founders of Hillshire Farms, so he can probably afford to do this kind of dumb bullshit.
jordan holmes
Why not?
All I have to say about that, why wouldn't it be the grandson of those people?
dan friesen
The Hillshire Farms people.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Deli meats.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
So he's a career scammer who's found the perfect community to insulate himself into, where he'll be treated like a hero and an expert, so good for him.
Con men...
jordan holmes
He found his people.
Yes.
dan friesen
Yes, for sure.
And being presented this way on Alex's show is like, this is where it all runs downstream.
You can get a revamp image.
If you want to try, social media and Infowars will help you.
jordan holmes
No, I was just thinking, it's fun that you stream, because I was just thinking, occasionally we will turn this show into a wildlife documentary, and it's like, oh, this is how the con men swim upstream to get to their...
Breeding grounds.
Of course they make this journey to Infowars in order to lay the fucking eggs necessary to move on for the next fucking...
Yeah, it's crazy.
dan friesen
Well, it's more like parasitism.
jordan holmes
Well, there's definitely that.
dan friesen
Well, because Alex will unquestioningly give you a place where you can prey on the audience that he has.
And that's very useful for people like this.
jordan holmes
There's a species of wasp now that opens out its victims and lets other wasps in.
For a price.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You give me a little extra caterpillar every now and again, you can sleep in this guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So anyway, I feel like this guy's a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
But I also was like, I don't want to shoot the messenger.
dan friesen
You know, let's see what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Depends on the message.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, let's get a little sampling of the information that he's bringing.
peter bernegger
USAID is funding the BBC.
It came out this morning.
They are funding the piggy bank.
They're larger than the CIA by a multiple.
alex jones
By the way, stop the presses.
We're going to have you on for 10 hours soon.
We'll do a two-hour commercial free.
I didn't even know that yet, but that goes to figure.
The government funded.
They have to pay a license to have a TV in the UK.
Almost no one watches it.
It's literally run by pedophiles that's come out.
And they are getting taxpayer money from the American people.
Wow, so Americans are paying a BBC tax as well.
Holy Toledo!
peter bernegger
And they're paying, and the USAID and through NGOs is paying Reuters.
Reuters and London to do hit pieces on conservatives across the United States.
alex jones
$300 million to target Musk, which again, that's really MI6.
Incredible.
dan friesen
Incredible.
So we've seen so much of Alex just like pointing at the big pile, you know, and so here we have some specifics with his fraud guest guy.
And this is the kind of level you would expect from a fraud guy.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So USAID wasn't funding the BBC.
They were contributing to a charity, BBC Media Action, which is an international development organization aimed at sponsoring independent media in other countries.
Hmm.
This is a very important distinction that just doesn't matter to these folks, because they're not making a sincere argument.
The USAID funding that they're discussing, like all the stuff that Musk is posting on Twitter, all this stuff, it's a fishing expedition where they're just going to go and pick and choose things that seem to work for their arguments, which is what you see here.
As for Reuters, the DOD had a contract with them for approximately $9 million that was meant to help create defense in the realm of cybersecurity.
The contract was started in 2018 when Trump was president and ended in 2022 when Biden was president.
And now Trump is back.
There you go.
This is stupid shit, but it's also an issue where this contract was with Thomason Reuters Special Services, which is a separate branch of the parent company from the news entity.
They're different things.
Also, this is a thing that was through the DOD, and USAID is an independent agency but exists around the State Department.
This is just grasping at straws.
This is what happens when you take a closer look at the big pile that Alex will just gesture at.
Because he wants you to see a pile, not anything that's in the pile.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Because it's all shit.
jordan holmes
That's ridiculous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I bet he didn't think that altering a subpoena was a crime.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
I bet he's got a fucking Photoshop thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or he did a cut and paste thing.
I bet a million dollars he's like, wait, that's a crime?
dan friesen
No, I think what happened, if I understand correctly, was that he had a subpoena that he...
He appropriately got through a judge.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then he added stuff to it after the judge had signed off on it.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
Which is like, oh, I probably couldn't get the subpoena if I had all this stuff written on it.
jordan holmes
That's how it works.
Right.
That's why we have the whole process.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
If you could do that, then you could have just written it down by yourself.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You didn't need a judge.
dan friesen
I love this kind of fraud because it's exactly the same behavior as the...
The catfish waste.
I couldn't get this investment if I told them I didn't know how to do the thing that I'm doing.
I have to lie in order to get the investment.
jordan holmes
What don't you understand about the lie?
dan friesen
Can't handle the truth.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I do appreciate...
dan friesen
The judge couldn't handle the truth.
jordan holmes
But, you know, there's so much of just, like, I didn't get into fraud because I wanted to work hard.
You know?
Like, I could have worked hard at anything.
I got into fraud because it's easy, man.
dan friesen
No, and I get it.
And I tip my hat.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
You know, that's why I say, like, he's found his people and, like, this is where you belong on Infowars.
Good for you.
Absolutely.
But, like, the thing that I resent is, like, acting like you're not a fraud person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Trying to pretend, like, this is just straight-up good shit.
That's where it's, like, I'm not gonna play.
I'm not playing.
jordan holmes
This is America.
unidentified
We...
jordan holmes
Kind of incomprehensibly like our con men for some reason.
We're just America.
Just give us a little twinkle in the eye and we'll all move on.
dan friesen
It's a national failing that we have.
But I also think that what I'm trying to put my finger on is I obviously don't think that you should be able to run scams like this.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
It's not complicated.
dan friesen
But I'm also not like I can't stop bullshit.
Sure.
It's just not going to happen.
Yeah.
I'm also not going to be cowed into a world where I respect those scabs.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that's the line.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I will laugh about his catfish waist.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
But I will not call him a businessman.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
It's like Pacino and De Niro and Heat.
You guys are sitting across the table from each other.
I'm not going to respect you, but I know that you're a criminal.
dan friesen
You know that was the first time that they were ever in a movie together?
jordan holmes
Is that true?
dan friesen
I think.
I don't know.
I remember that from an ad.
jordan holmes
Nice!
dan friesen
Yeah.
When Heat came out.
jordan holmes
For another movie?
dan friesen
No, when Heat came out.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Made a big deal out of Pacino and De Niro.
First time on screen together.
jordan holmes
I guess that's cool.
Is that cool?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, sure.
I mean, they're big.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, I get that, but, you know, it feels weird to be like, ooh, I get to see those two guys pretend at each other.
That's very strange.
We're weird people.
dan friesen
It sure is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, that's about all I got.
jordan holmes
He seems like a great guy.
dan friesen
Berninger?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, you can trust his family.
They have the meats, too.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, we also have the meats.
dan friesen
At a time, they had some of the meats.
Now, Arby's has taken all of the meats.
jordan holmes
There was a hostile conquest.
Arby's took all of the meats.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
What a headline that would be.
dan friesen
So, we'll see if that's something that's covered on the next episode.
But this was not laser-focused.
jordan holmes
Was that what it was trying to be?
dan friesen
We did say laser-focused.
jordan holmes
We did say laser-focused.
It's a very different laser.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex sucks.
This is trash.
We'll see if it gets better.
But until we are back, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
alex jones
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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