#1017: February 4, 2025—Alex Jones rambles about Trump and Musk "crushing globalists," then pivots to attacking AOC’s intelligence claims, Bill Gates’ alleged bioweapons, and Shakespeare-quoting critics as "fake conservatives." Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dismantle his conspiracy-laden logic, exposing Peter Bernegger’s fraudulent past (2009 felonies, subpoena tampering) while debunking his USAID-BBC claims. Jones’ erratic shifts—from economic doomsaying to absurd villainy—reveal a pattern of performative outrage and discredited sources, underscoring his show’s descent into unhinged, reality-free spectacle. [Automatically generated summary]
And I realized this while, whenever I got it, and I was playing it and listening to it, I was like, I remember when listening to Bon Iver or that kind of...
But also, a lot of it looks like really, really bad stuff.
And were he to take the time to look into any of this stuff, report on any of these things in a meaningful way, I think he would be forced to confront, like, oh shit, this isn't good.
So I have, you know, I've gone through this fairly slowly, and part of the reason for that is that I would like this feeling to be understood of his time after the inauguration.
I would like that, because I think that's the most important thing.
I think that, you know, at a certain point we'll have to pick up and get closer to present day.
But I think that at the end of the last episode, when Alex is saying, like, I've got all this secret information, but we'll just fuck it up if we try and cover it.
The execution, the energy, the fact that Trump and Elon and all of their team laugh in the face of the squeaking, squawking, pedophilic criminals.
Every bit of the messaging and the truth and the informativeness and the competency is like being held underwater for four minutes by a savage 400-pound sumo wrestler and finally getting them off of you and sticking your head back above the surface and getting that precious air.
I am beyond euphoric.
I am just so thankful to God and so thankful and humbled by all of you, not just my fellow fabulous, amazing Americans, not just my compatriots here in this republic, but all the red-blooded humans that love liberty and freedom.
And whose north star is the spirit of God shining through us, filling our sails with a crisp, clean wind of change.
We have the enemy's main attack plan to crash the economy.
And even if they do that, the globalists are going to get the blame because we have information warfare superiority and the public's not asleep anymore.
So this is a teachable moment, because there's a reason that Alex goes into that sing-song voice while talking about this subject.
He's gloating, like a schoolyard bully, and this is the tone that he's putting on in order to convey that vibe.
What Alex is trying to get across is that no matter what happens, he and his side have a story that the media apparatus that they've built up will push.
They are going to push that story, and Trump is never going to get the blame for anything.
If Trump's economic moves end up creating huge problems for the U.S. consumer, it's already established that this was caused not by Trump's actions, but the evil globalists crashing the stock market because they're so mad that Trump is so good.
Alex is doing this bully gloating because he's pretty comfortable with the toxic information space that he's helped usher in, and now Elon essentially presides over.
The narrative is what's important, because the narrative is what ushers human attention.
If you distract people well enough, you can legitimately override their understanding of cause and effect relationships, and you can just describe whatever cause you want to explain the effects that are happening in the real world.
This is what Alex is gloating about, that he feels like his side has defeated rationality.
He says that we have information war superiority, it just means we can say whatever the fuck we want to explain things, and we've gotten to a point where we're pretty comfortable we can just trick it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know how you can say the words information war superiority and not recognize the disingenuousness that is required for that.
They say they have flashbacks because they dumped the script once they were just going to use that real gunny sergeant as an advisor.
And he said, this is all wrong.
So he rewrote the whole first half of the movie where they're at the Marine base before they go to Vietnam.
And so he wrote it.
I forget his name.
He's super famous.
Everybody knows who he is.
And there's that line in there.
The drill sergeants were getting really excited in the last few days of boot camp because the power of these young Marines was growing out of their control for the exact line.
But that's what I like seeing.
Because my mission has always been to become obsolete because everybody gets it.
And then once everybody gets how tyranny operates, now this current permutation and combo operates.
It's so much fun to defeat tyranny.
It's such a pleasure.
An extreme pleasure.
I mean, sometimes, you know, I'm going to meet my wife and eat dinner or something and everything, and I'll just say, I'm sorry, I have to stay at work.
Even though I want to go eat a nice dinner and be with my wife, that's a lot of fun.
It's like, I'm sorry, this drive state, and I got a lot of drive state for eating food, you know what I mean, is not anything compared to the drive state of crushing the enemy.
What is best in life?
To have a falcon on your wrist and to have the wind of the steps in your hair.
Wrong!
Conan!
What is best in life?
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and the linimentation of the women.
I was just kind of screaming about the lamentations of the women of the globalists will be heard and that's what's best in life is crushing your enemies before you.
Well, if I had behaved, I will say this, on his behalf, if not in his defense, perhaps to damn him still greater, if I had performed the way that he did, I too would be lying about it.
At the current acceleration rate, the globalists are completely smashed within 90 days.
Now, if Trump could have just stabilized in two years and removed 80% of them, I thought that would be a total win.
I thought that was about the best we'd get.
No.
It's a totally different animal.
And when Trump said, I have been reborn, I have learned a lot.
And I mean, he has been.
He has been.
Planning and preparing.
And again, even if they kill him, which they're going to try for sure, even though it won't work.
But if they're totally off balance and the whole bunch of indictments, which you know are incoming, happen with the goods, they won't even be able to do that.
And I'm just staggered by what's happening.
But you know, that's the thing about life.
People think evil's invincible.
They think it's all powerful that there'll be some, you know, You're in seventh grade, and there's some kid that's, you know, flunked three grades, and he's got a mustache, and he weighs 220 pounds, and he's always beating people up, and nobody will stand up to him.
He beats you up a few times, and you go home with black eyes, and your dad says, well, you just got to fight harder.
Well, what do I do to that?
He goes, well, he waits for you when you get off the bus, and jumps on you, and sits on you, and spits on you, and blacks your eyes.
He goes, and he rocks around?
Anything going on?
Next time that happens, I just pick up a piece of concrete, smash across his face, put his eye out.
My dad said, good job.
My dad's not a mean person.
He's just like, and people tried to sue us.
My dad said, fuck you.
Your son loosening my son's teeth, giving him black eyes.
You're lucky I didn't come to your house, buddy.
Who do you think you're fucking with?
People that take your shit?
You want to fight?
You got one.
Excuse me.
Let's go out with Conan, then we'll come back with all the big news.
So I think that that clip may include a bit of a Rosetta Stone for Alex's brain.
On a very basic level, we've never heard him say that his dad suggested using weapons against a bully, which is a bit upsetting to hear.
It's a movie kind of moment where a parent tells their child to fight back against bullies.
But it's a different thing for a parent to say, well, son, have you considered murder?
This indicates a complete disinterest on Alex's dad's part toward getting involved in his son's life.
Alex is basically on his own, except he's not.
His dad still exists as a figure that'll deal out punishments, but only when they involve his own life.
Consider how Alex told the story of his dad threatening to kick him out of the house because he was getting all those abortions, which his dad said was killing my grandkids.
I think the big tell moment here is him using his catchphrase against the globalists while he's in this reverie thinking about this bully from his childhood.
It makes a bit too clear that his fight against the globalists and all this shit is just him replaying and trying to deal with the same feeling that he had when he was a kid being bullied.
His dad refused to help him when he was growing up, so Alex tried to impress him by almost killing a supposed bully.
And that didn't really work, so his life has been a larger scale attempt to impress his dad by killing the bigger supposed bullies Alex would always overhear his dad complaining about with his John Birch Society friends.
This is kind of why Alex's beliefs and everything he's stood for has completely changed over the years, because there really isn't any principle behind any of it.
He's just fighting against ghosts in a doomed mission to get his dad to care.
Oh, the alarm bells and sirens are going off inside the globalist command bases everywhere.
And in most cases, the Trump administration legally, lawfully, constitutionally has seized control.
And with total commitment to their promises, are flooding the zone with all the crimes and corruption and theft of our enemies that suddenly want to wave American flags.
Like enemy soldiers parachuting behind enemy lines, wearing the country they're invading's uniforms, camouflaging themselves as Americans when they are certified enemies of not just America, but of every human on the face of this planet.
Of our enemies' mindsets, which when you see their confidence and you see the corporate media's glitz and glamour and you believe that, well, maybe they're right.
Maybe two men can have a baby.
Maybe fentanyl isn't a problem.
Maybe World War III is a good thing.
Maybe drag queen story time isn't such a bad idea.
Maybe they are going to give us utopia.
Maybe we should just do what they say.
Maybe communism works.
Maybe we should open our borders.
Maybe white people are inherently evil and need to be gotten rid of.
Maybe eating bugs is a good idea.
I mean, it's not just a reasonable thing to not go along with it.
I mean, they're reasonable guys.
Let's do it.
And when you're under the spell that I've never been under, thank God, but some people, many people have been under, and you come out of the spell, you come out of the trance, you come out of the mind control, you come out of the Stockholm Syndrome, the learned helplessness.
And you say, what the hell's going on here?
And then you get our sweet little darling, the barista, the bartender.
I think it's bartenders.
I mean, there's a lot of smart ones, actually.
But taken and put up by the establishment because she's such a mindless vessel that will execute things like an animatronic giggling robot.
And she's said a lot of hilarious stuff over the years.
Remember?
Every time I mention I want to find the video and play it again.
She's like...
And she puts on a fake, I guess, Hispanic accent.
She's never talked that before.
And she goes, we have these community gardens and there's too much cauliflower grown there that the white people eat.
We need other things grown, not the white people food.
Cauliflower was originally cultivated in the Mediterranean, and AOC never said it was racist.
This was a right-wing media hysteria from 2019 about her posting a video about how the Green New Deal involved creating grow spaces where things that were relevant to local communities should be grown.
Cauliflower was just an example that she used of a plant that wasn't used in much like Puerto Rican cooking, so for a Puerto Rican community, it wouldn't make sense to grow that, but yucca would.
And she pronounced yucca, uh, yuca.
And then Puerto Rico.
And that's the accent that Alex is saying that she put on.
When we were, you know, Chicago, I take the public transport often, which means that over the years, I have occasionally walked in on multiple unhoused people having a time with their own bodies.
And then you get AOC in one of her latest or latest fabulous comedy saying, quote, Elon Musk is one of the most unintelligent billionaires I've ever met or seen.
And the poster said, who's going to tell her?
I said, in response to reposting it on X at Real Alex Jones, the globalists would hate it if you followed me and shared the videos and articles.
That might hurt the globalists a little more.
Don't do that.
Oh, please.
Elon Musk is the most intelligent person on the planet when it comes to wide-spectrum knowledge and force of will.
AOC is one of the most un-self-aware people on Earth, but also one of the greatest unintentional comics in history.
The average lebtard is taught one-spectrum analysis, not even third-dimensional understanding, or first-level...
Responses or issues.
They're certainly not taught second level consequences or third level or fourth level or they tell you there's not even a third or fourth level if they studied it.
Because they're designed and brainwashed and put in a position of being automatomics or automatons.
And then they apply it, So Alex loves to go into these kinds of blowhard abstract ideas about how your immune system is a sign of intelligence when he needs to defend how smart some dipshit he likes is.
But...
He's also the same person who supports the ideas of books like The Bell Curve.
He believes that there's a meaningful connection between race and IQ and has used low IQ scores as a reason why some cultures are inferior to others.
If you pay attention, it's really easy to see the trends and who gets to enjoy the benefits of having broad-spectrum intelligence and who's judged by their imagined low IQ.
It's mostly if Alex thinks that you're white and if you support...
When you see the desperate leftist surrounding, they're still there today, the recaptured federal agency, USAID, they're scared.
And not because totalitarianism is coming for them, but because Their oppressive, tyrannical, hyper, totalitarian boot is being removed millisecond by millisecond from our collective necks.
And all the corporate media and all their dirty tricks and all...
Pull their little cards up their filthy little sleeves aren't just having no effect.
They are enraging and empowering with moral will.
Those of us who have labored as Winter soldiers and paid high prices in the trenches of the information war.
We were becoming stronger under the pressure while they decadently preening themselves on high.
surveyed us as mere mortals to be poisoned, dumbed down, abused, robbed, and finally Is that his Puerto Rican accent?
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Do I sound more intellectual to the self-supported liberals now?
I think maybe he's just internalized that as being a thing that we all believe, is that villains have an effete British accent, as opposed to that was a trend for a while.
So Hotez didn't say that, and obviously Gates was commenting on how indiscriminate cuts to USAID grants and projects would make it more difficult to respond in the context of a future pandemic, but Alex doesn't deal in accuracy, so I don't really care to squabble about the details and the lies here.
I just don't understand how Alex can't just get up and call for...
I mean, regardless of whether or not you believe he's good or evil, he's a private entity, an individual with 60 known extinction event causers on his shelves.
It doesn't matter if he's going to use them or not.
You cannot allow him to live.
He's too dangerous simply by existing.
Now, let me ask you a question.
All right?
So he's got 60 murder things on the shelf.
What do you see?
Do you think they're behind a bookshelf?
Do you think he's got the spin around bookshelf and then it's all white and there's like maybe some smoke, you know, some steam or something from it being kept cold?
So you go with the bookshelf, it spins around, right?
And then I've got little, like...
Fancy spinning beaker kind of designs for, you know, because if you're going to have a world-destroying virus, you put it in a nice little beaker, right?
One time over a few months, off and on, she read to me all of William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.
And so there's a quote out of that, which is based on history, but somewhat fiction.
But William Shakespeare said, there is a tide in the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune.
And I said, some people want money or power or whatever.
But I said, my real fortune I want is freedom and competition and a vibrant new renaissance.
And I went and looked at the comments, because I love comments, and I saw quite a few people saying, I thought you were a Christian.
What does that mean, being excited about human activity and innovation in the renaissance?
God gave us that.
Or quoting William Shakespeare.
But it's strange, too, how the old guard fake conservatives that sat here and hid in their churches while all this evil went on, and then they just run around like Pharisees or Sadducees, praying in public and telling you how holy they are.
And then the strangest things...
Go grab that from X last week.
I think it was Friday.
I'm in my car.
I'm wearing a red shirt.
I'm driving.
I just felt like saying it.
There is a tide in the affairs of men when taken up the flood leads on a fortune.
And just, it's weird psychology.
Like, you thought I was a Christian.
Well, not your type of Christian, I'll assure you.
No, not the people that sit around and tell people about the speck in their eye when they got a beam in theirs.
You just stay in there.
Where you're at, we'll do the heavy lifting from here.
I don't even know why I'm bringing that up.
It's just weird.
Weird things that will trigger the fake Christians.
Alex is a coward on a level that you can't really put into words.
Just put a bounty on Gates' head already.
What are you doing?
What Alex is saying about how Trump's administration is dealing with governing is right on though.
The only way they'll ever be able to get anything done is by causing gigantic messes that need to be dealt with in the courts.
While the courts hear these cases, they move on to causing another giant mess that will need to be dealt with in the courts later.
As the process goes along, they cause unfixable damage and force out tons of workers who would be needed to keep the government processes functioning as normal.
Inevitably, this will cause severe problems, which will then be blamed on some vague deep state actors.
For a perfect example, the cuts in public health funding will result in greater infectious disease exposure and probably a lot more death from preventable conditions, maybe even another serious pandemic.
Instead of accepting that this is partially due to the attack on public health funding, it'll be contextualized as a bioweapon attack by someone like Bill Gates who was mad because they cut the public health funding and he lost all his money.
They cause the damage and then use storytelling to shift the responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
This is a functional model now.
Right-wing media saturation is to a point where Tucker Carlson can pretend he was attacked by a demon in the middle of the night and he still has a career.
These figures can shift blame and control the narrative for a significant amount of the population, but in order for this to work, the people in power have to...
Keep causing that damage in the first place.
I suspect that Alex understands this, that his side would never be able to calmly convince any group of rational people to go along with their plans.
The only way he'd ever be able to see the world that he wants come into being is by brute force and pressing the attack while the other side struggles to keep up the infrastructure of democracy.
It's so much easier to just wrecking ball destroy shit than it is to fix...
Seems like if Gates is under surveillance by the government, then it'd be pretty hard for him to launch another pandemic.
So I guess if I'm supposed to believe anything Alex says is real, then that threat is neutralized.
There's no reason to believe that Bill Gates is even capable of doing anything if he's completely under surveillance and Trump is going to get him.
So that's the thing, right?
He's a threat or he's not.
And Alex seems to want both.
If he's under super Trump surveillance, then there's nothing to worry about, which satisfies what the audience wants to think about Trump, but it also leaves them with nothing to be scared about.
If Trump truly has this under surveillance, then you can't really use Gates as a scapegoat for the next possible health crisis without saying that Trump knowingly allowed it to happen.
I guess that's not probably that big of a problem, though, since Trump did Operation Warp Speed and was president during most of the pandemic lockdowns, his fans have been able to rationalize that pretty well, so I don't think it's a problem, but you see these internal inconsistencies.
So I'm going to try to give him the floor here, but his work on election fraud has been very instrumental, but in stopping a lot of it and mitigating it and creating a blueprint for Trump's investigators to go in and block a lot of it.
But that now is being eclipsed by his work on the fraud in the NGOs and up the chain to the State Department and the rest of it.
So, Peter Berneger, thank you so much for coming on with us today.
This is a complex but critical issue, central to retaking our republic.
How should we start with the audience who is smart, but still, this gets into rocket science level stuff.
How do you quantify what's going on and then start drilling into it?
He's a dipshit conspiracy theorist who's wasted countless hours of people's lives with harassment about the 2020 election, to the point where he's been warned by the Wisconsin police that his actions could be seen as stalking, and he was charged with a felony.
That's a case of him committing fraud in order to make it easier for him to achieve his goals.
In this case, making a big show out of fake election theft information.
Probably unsurprisingly, Peter was convicted for felony mail and bank fraud charges in 2009 in Mississippi.
He and his associate, they'd started a company called WeGel that claimed that they could make gelatin out of catfish waste product, but he was full of shit about being able to do that.
Quote, David Cooper, an investor who also worked as a chemist for Finch and Berneger, testified that he asked Berneger why he did not tell the investors the truth in these letters, to which Berneger replied, quote, they can't handle the truth.
So he's a career scammer who's found the perfect community to insulate himself into, where he'll be treated like a hero and an expert, so good for him.
No, I was just thinking, it's fun that you stream, because I was just thinking, occasionally we will turn this show into a wildlife documentary, and it's like, oh, this is how the con men swim upstream to get to their...
Breeding grounds.
Of course they make this journey to Infowars in order to lay the fucking eggs necessary to move on for the next fucking...
They were contributing to a charity, BBC Media Action, which is an international development organization aimed at sponsoring independent media in other countries.
Hmm.
This is a very important distinction that just doesn't matter to these folks, because they're not making a sincere argument.
The USAID funding that they're discussing, like all the stuff that Musk is posting on Twitter, all this stuff, it's a fishing expedition where they're just going to go and pick and choose things that seem to work for their arguments, which is what you see here.
As for Reuters, the DOD had a contract with them for approximately $9 million that was meant to help create defense in the realm of cybersecurity.
The contract was started in 2018 when Trump was president and ended in 2022 when Biden was president.
And now Trump is back.
There you go.
This is stupid shit, but it's also an issue where this contract was with Thomason Reuters Special Services, which is a separate branch of the parent company from the news entity.
They're different things.
Also, this is a thing that was through the DOD, and USAID is an independent agency but exists around the State Department.
This is just grasping at straws.
This is what happens when you take a closer look at the big pile that Alex will just gesture at.
Because he wants you to see a pile, not anything that's in the pile.