#1015: February 2, 2025—Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dismantle Alex Jones’ baseless claims of $30 trillion Treasury fraud, exposing his recycled examples like $15M in Gaza condoms or Ukraine’s $75B aid gap as misrepresented. Jones frames Trump’s tariffs as "revolutionary financial violence" while ignoring inflation risks, contradicting his own fearmongering to push gold sales. His exploitation of David Hogg’s DNC role—despite past harassment—reveals a pattern of predatory conspiracy peddling, cementing his reputation as a manipulative demagogue. Cliffhangers? Just more grift. [Automatically generated summary]
I thought that one of the things that I enjoyed about it was even though I know it's a Matrix movie, I still didn't know what really was real for most of it.
Sure.
I know that's a game that they're playing, and I'm out for it.
And I was surprised that, you know, as somebody who was, like, right at a critical age when The Matrix came out, I can be a little bit snooty about that kind of stuff.
Because we would have gotten most of the movie, right?
We would have gotten him going to work, his mouth is all like...
We would have gotten him trying to fly out there and then choosing that he's not going to go.
And then he's like, oh yeah, cool, Mr. Smith, you won, no big deal.
And then we break him out, and then he's like, you can take the red pill or you can take the blue, and he just grabs the blue pill, and then movie over.
Without the three of them pushing each other, they all kind of just look at the rest of the world and go, you're not good enough at tennis for me to care anymore.
We are 13 days, 4 hours, 44 seconds into the new Trump administration.
And the globalist worst nightmares have come true.
I am here to report to you, and I'm getting chills right now, that Trump and Elon Musk and his people he's brought in Did not do 100% of what I thought they would do in their first two weeks.
A few days ago, I said it would be 200% on what I was expecting.
Like, now that we know stuff about the human body and, like, nutrients and foods and all of those things, like, you make better decisions when you're well-fed, when you're not hungry, when you're not tired.
So, what's going on is a very clearly illegal and dangerous situation for Elon and his team of dipshits to have access to the government's treasury, but here we are.
Naturally, lawsuits were filed about him having access to these records, and a judge ruled that Doge could have read-only access to treasury files, and that they were limited to having a two-member team.
One of the two people on this team, you know, you got to choose the best and brightest.
Alex says there's all these types of people.
Sure.
Indian hate.
Sure.
He resigned because it seems bad that a committed public racist was one of the two people chosen by Musk to access the treasury systems.
But then Musk decided he wanted to bring Elez back and posted on Twitter, quote, He will be brought back.
To err is human.
To forgive divine.
This was after JD Vance came out and publicly argued that this racist guy should be kept in his position, which is kind of ironic, considering that his wife's parents are from India.
Anyway, racism won the day, but even still, Musk has not posted tons of receipts of government wasteful spending.
Pretty much everything that's been posted on Twitter has either been misrepresented or stuff that's already public information that they're pretending was kept secret.
And Alex pretending like this thing where there's like...
All this billions and trillions of dollars has gone missing, but there's these records!
Yeah, it doesn't make too much sense from anybody's point of view to have multiple sets of hidden books, which I think is what we would have to be talking about here, for them to also have secret records that were kept from the people who we already have secret records for, on top of the regular records that are public.
I'm going to try to condense this down here tonight and just give you snapshots of some of it, but this should be the number one story in the world.
It is a big story.
People are following it, but they're not realizing how big this is.
Trump is doing exactly what you would do to legally and lawfully seize control of the government in the swamp.
You want to drain the swamp, you have to first get all the command and control systems in it.
And then you have to expose the crime that was going on to burn down any responses these crooks are going to have through the corporate media.
And the corporate media is already, if you thought they were rolling over before, they are pissing themselves and rolling over, showing their bellies right now.
This morning, on the news of this, the Ukrainian dictator Zelensky rolled over and said, listen, I didn't steal the money.
We have a video of him saying it.
58% never came here.
They stole it.
Washington stole it.
The Democrats stole it.
And I'm ready for peace.
And I'll have elections.
He hasn't had elections in a year.
He set himself up as a dictator.
So, he's got the fear of God in his eyes.
He looks like he is on a bunch of drugs, cocaine or something.
I mean, I think there was probably poop in his pants.
So what Alex is describing here is very illegal, and it's counter to his longtime stated positions that he's advocated and preached over the years.
For most of his career, Alex has screamed about how Congress has the power of the purse and controls spending.
He had this position because it's what the Constitution says, and because he knew on some level that it was unlikely that he was ever going to have a real nutty tyrant win the presidency and take over the executive branch.
So you wouldn't need to advocate for the president being able to...
Sure, sure, sure.
The best option for him was within the law, and it was electing enough people into Congress to attack government spending that way.
Now Trump has come into office and he's released executive orders freezing government spending.
On one level, that sounds like a decision he can make, because, you know, you want to hear that as him stopping new spending.
It's like putting someone on a budget when there's a financial pinch that comes into place.
But the problem is that a lot of the spending that he wants to freeze is funding that's already been approved by and apportioned by Congress.
He's directly attacking Congress's power of the purse, which is something that Alex has always pretended to care about.
There are funds that were apportioned by the latest infrastructure bill, for example, that were supposed to be frozen by Trump's executive order, which is a huge problem.
This is called impoundment when a president attempts to stop funding that's already been approved by Congress and it's been litigated before through the courts and it's established that the president does not have this authority.
This is an attempt on Trump's part to essentially steal public funds that the government voted to authorize for public use because he disagrees with some or all of it and how it's being used.
It's a fundamentally undemocratic and illegal act, and I guess we can just hope that the courts don't allow it, because if Trump can just refuse to fund things that Congress approves and fire people who try to distribute those funds, there's not really much of a point for Congress to...
to exist.
And I understand being disillusioned and being like the Supreme Court's all bought and paid for.
And I think that there's some reason to have worry about that.
But in this specific narrow example, Brett Kavanaugh has been very opposed to that.
this position.
So him allowing this to stand would be in stark contrast to shit tons of stuff that he's argued in the past, which is not impossible.
No, I was thinking that what they should do is just have, like, every...
Every agency should just have a judge with them at all times and a couple of lawyers, and then whenever Trump sends an order, then we can just hash it out in the office, you know?
Because otherwise, people are going to start doing stuff, and then you have to go to the court and sue it.
All right, I could do this a lot of different ways.
I could explain the strategy of Trump and why it's so absolutely genius.
I could break down the lightning speed of it.
I could chronicle what's going on, and I'm gonna try to do it all here.
But hundreds of billions of certified fraud in less than, right in about 24 hours has come out.
The federal bureaucrats at the Treasury quit.
Others refused to give over the codes to the federal Treasury database of payments going back, because they digitized them going back, over a hundred years.
And the last 30, 40, they've got detailed down to the penny, and they know exactly who got what and where.
So obviously this isn't true, but Alex is reporting on what it feels like Musk is doing based on the various misleading Twitter posts that Alex has seen about it.
He's covering the vibe of social media, as opposed to anything that's actually real.
Musk and Doge absolutely didn't uncover and report billions in criminal spending, but it really feels like it for the folks who desperately need to feel like they are, because if those people don't have that feeling, they might realize that they're supporting a tyrannical takeover of the government led by an unelected billionaire and the people that he's deciding to have access to very sensitive public information.
But when you cut the people's money, they don't have anything to do, and you have all the guns with the military because you've highly funded them, so...
One of the biggest takeaways, we have all the documents right here, is that for decades, even when funding ended, They would never even end the funding and would just keep paying whatever forever.
And you've got Democrat senators, Republican senators, House members, foreign, current, on these boards of NGO nonprofits getting hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars a year, in some cases, billions per organization.
And then they've already started spot-checking the actual numbers of whatever the aid was, and in most cases, it's less than 12% ever actually went to whatever the so-called aid was.
You know, you'll see people like Senator Paul every year with his Festivus list of the worst pork barrel, and it's big news.
This is a billion, and I mean, I'm not exaggerating, I'm just dead wrecking, a billion times crazier.
If you think one of the things they used as an example last week, $15 million in condoms to Gaza, or $15 million for shrimp on treadmills, that's real if you're a new viewer.
Just type it in, I'm not joking.
I know it doesn't sound real, believe me, I understand.
If you think that's bad, ladies and gentlemen, This is mass total criminal activity, and they're just releasing it all.
Like, Alex uses these kind of shorthand things to discuss government spending with two examples.
These are the examples he uses because they're supposed to elicit a reaction from the audience that's something like, I can't believe that's where our money is going.
But he's also specifically using these as examples of things that were uncovered.
These aren't the things that Doge is uncovering, but this is supposed to be a stand-in for those specifics that Alex isn't giving.
That's a problem, though, because neither of these things were secrets that were covered up ever.
It was all totally public stuff available to anyone who was interested.
The shrimp on treadmills thing, Alex said, is a $15 million situation.
That was a half-million-dollar grant that went to the College of Charleston, South Carolina, and a biologist named Lou Bennett.
Well, also, shrimp being on a treadmill is a small part of the research that was facilitated by this grant, but it naturally creates a funny image in your head, which is why it's used as a meme by the right-wing forces that want to stop government spending.
This was a scandal from 2011, and the actual study had to do with some important issues, like the effects of bacteria exposure on crustaceans, which are a major part of agriculture around the country.
You can say that this part of the research looks silly, like shrimp being on a treadmill.
It is a funny picture.
Or you could say that it lacks practical application, but a lot of science looks that way to people who don't understand what the actual variables that are being examined by these studies are.
The $50 million for condoms to Gaza thing, that just wasn't true.
It was a lie that Musk promoted and was repeated by the press secretary until it was debunked.
And then Musk said, quote, Some of the things I say will be incorrect and should be corrected.
Nobody's going to bat a thousand.
I mean, any, you know, we will make mistakes, but we'll act quickly to correct any mistakes.
So there's no real spot checking of fraud that's going on here.
There's a lie about condoms going to Gaza and an almost 15-year-old mischaracterization of a study on shrimp that's being used to attack government spending.
Because public investment helps the public and it hurts billionaires, and that's the side that Alex is on.
I'm not going to talk about, like, go to Musk's Twitter if you want to see all the...
Copious examples of all the fraud they're uncovering, but I'm going to bring up condoms in Gaza and shrimp on treadmills because that's the feeling that I want to articulate to you.
Do you remember, I don't know if this, maybe this never happened, I feel like in my lifetime there was a guy who went on TV and had commercials and he was dressed in a dollar sign suit about government grants, right?
So there's something very exciting that Alex says on this episode that made me feel like maybe Jerome Corsi had information that was going to get him killed.
None of us that have been persecuted by this evil system are going to have any problems anymore once this is completed, and there's no turning it back now.
So, yeah, I feel like a trillion pounds have been lifted off of me.
So Trump has given Alex some kind of secret information that provides him with a great amount of relief, and he's going to talk about it on the show tomorrow.
Which, I think, when you're responding to him making that voice, it's because you're faking all this.
So all of this, too, like this obsession with Elon Musk, it comes at the expense of critical thinking skills.
Musk has said that these payment approval officers in the Treasury Department, they've gone their whole careers without rejecting a payment, and this is a scandal that Doge has uncovered.
But you should ask yourself the question, what do these people do?
Is it their job to choose whether to approve or deny payment of a bill?
As it turns out, that's not their job.
The role of the Treasury Department payment officers is to reliably dispense payment for the spending that's approved by other bodies of the government.
Determining whether or not things are cool or not, that's another part of the government's job.
This is the accounts payable department.
What people with more expertise on the subject have said is that Trump is trying to take over this area of the government and distort what it does in order to just not pay our bills.
That fits with his general business strategies that he's used in the past and now he's trying to run the country that way.
Just don't pay people.
They want to use the Treasury as a block on dispensing funds that Congress has approved as a way of tyrannically taking over the ability of our country to spend money on things that people want but the big power interests don't like, like Social Security.
It's all very transparent, and someone who is the character that Alex has pretended to be for the last 30 years should be so able to see through this, and the fact that he doesn't should be an indication to everybody who might be tricked by him that...
Less than 24 hours after Elon Musk and his Department of Government.
Got into the U.S. Treasury computers.
They have gone into a complete limbing route, running off the edge of the political cliff, and they're just everywhere turning on each other right now.
I mean, they are in panic mode, running for the exits.
And Zelensky was put in by the West and the CIA.
And then it's canceled over a year ago elections and banned even friendly parties and taken over all the media and banned the Orthodox Church.
They always say they banned a major denomination.
No, it's the big one.
The guy's a dictator.
He's been refusing to listen to Trump.
And now all of a sudden he's like, oh yeah, I want to come to the table.
I want to, and by the way, I didn't steal the money.
The point Zelensky made was that the money that was appropriated by Congress within the five bills that provided aid to Ukraine, there's a portion of that money that doesn't actually go to Ukraine, and when people are using these top-line numbers that are so high, it's like, that wasn't money that went to us.
So some of the money is appropriated to supporting other countries in the region, and a lot of it goes to US weapons manufacturers who produce munitions that then go to Ukraine.
That money is spent supporting Ukraine in the war, but technically it doesn't go to them.
Dipshit social media users were putting forward the story that Zelensky was trying to distance himself from a money laundering scandal that Trump and Musk were clearly uncovering, and now Alex is just repeating that as news.
In reality, Zelensky didn't say anything of the sort.
It's just a lie that's facilitated by social media's ability to corrupt and oversimplify information and then repackage it.
Like, I mean, man, one of the things that we should all really be concerned about is that we know...
From what we can see, Elon Musk is making absolutely terrible decisions left and right for his businesses, for himself, for life, for all of us, right?
But he's still making more money.
He is not receiving any negative consequences for behaving what is clearly insane behavior.
Look, when I hear, and I heard before and today, we hear from the United States of America that America gave Ukraine hundreds of billions, 170 billion, to be more precise.
And I don't want to chop your son's penises off either.
So, you know, the cult that runs government that are a bunch of demons and pedophiles and vampires, he says that in other interviews recently, I'm kind of throwing in a gestalt, are done.
People are sick of them all over the world.
This is a worldwide phenomenon.
It's over.
People go, my God, Putin sounds just like Alex Jones.
And then I'm going to get into what's happening with the border and the illegal alien protests being funded by USAID publicly and what they're planning there, which is also the enemy attack.
And Tom Homan, the border is ours, is very smart.
And not go mess with these big demonstrations.
Even though they're pulling out American flags and beating people up and blocking traffic, and as I predicted, they would start, and it's getting more violent, more violent, more violent.
It's the local police's job to respond, and it's hurting them.
It's hurting the left that this is all going on.
Don't interrupt your enemy when they're destroying themselves, as Napoleon said.
It's going to get more violent and more violent trying to get the feds to come out so the CIA network, just not the whole CIA now, but the bad stay-behind network, at a truck bomb, or it'll be German intelligence or something, because they've used them before to bomb Oklahoma City, to bomb them with a truck bomb or a mass shooting.
And so, and I told you, when Holman doesn't take the bait, then they're going to start burning the cities.
And that'll be in a few months.
But they're looking for the right pretext to do it now that a cop does something wrong or something.
We just keep exposing it, keep laying it out, keep talking about it.
And then it does border on Machiavelli to not run in with the feds and stop it.
And that's why I'm just completely honest about it.
This is my view.
And, but they're going to get very violent soon.
They'll have Antivy out shooting people in the head soon in Los Angeles and Austin and everywhere else like they've done before to try to really elicit the response.
And at that point, there'll be feds watching and they'll just go arrest them at home.
There'll be professors and leftists and, you know, congressmen's kids and stuff like that.
Or federal riot police or anything into these things, you're walking into a trap.
And I don't think they need me to tell them that.
What I'm seeing from the administration is really smart, really dead on.
But when they really start burning the cities, the blue cities are going to stand down so it gets out of control.
And then at that point, Trump has to explain it's a trap, explain how this is a setup, and tell the mayors.
And the police chiefs, if you don't go stop this now, we know you're aiding and abetting NGOs.
We know you're involved.
You're going to be indicted for trying to lure the feds in there to start a civil war.
And then Trump will have to ask the governors and put it on this.
This is constitutional.
Go in there with your state police and take over the city and county, because when they don't do their job, that's what happens.
And then governors like Newsom are going to try to refuse, but you saw he started flipping under Trump's pressure.
So see, now that we have the public awake and understanding how this works, they won't be able to stand when Trump goes, I'm not walking into your trap.
I feel like we're in a situation where when I'm watching a movie, I go, I need to turn off the stuff so I can enjoy the movie.
But then in real life, I go, you can't do that.
You just have to talk to a guy.
You would have to talk to him.
If you did that, then we should have a scene where you have to talk to a group of people and they're just really disappointed in you.
And that's it.
But they don't do that in real life.
Alex just tells the story of the CIA having multiple factions and not one where it's like, buddy, now we have to call in the fucking Federal Union guys.
We have to bring them in here.
You need to have your representative in the office while me and your boss talk to you about whether or not you're on the wrong CIA side.
I think that, obviously, what you're bringing up is true, but the point of why he's telling that story is to make people opposed to protesters who are going to be pushing back against things like Mass deportations, against stripping people of Social Security benefits.
That kind of stuff is what's going to elicit these large reactions from the public that Alex is saying are going to be bait for Trump to come in with the federal...
He's trying to invalidate the act of protesting in the minds of the audience.
Chicagoans don't burn down Chicago because we live here, you know?
Like, you've got this whole story where, okay, so we leave them alone and we don't bother their protests, so then they've got to go crazy on us to get attention.
So then they have to burn down Chicago, and you're like, hold on, why are we burning down Chicago?
Well, I think it's because Alex knows that there aren't these NWO and Wolfpack versions of the CIA, but that there are a lot of accelerationist...
Sure.
Maybe.
Part of the storyline can be fulfilled by another agent as opposed to some breakaway, stay-behind CIA network.
So that part of the story can be fulfilled and the rest of the narrative play out how Alex wants, even if protesters don't end up burning down their own cities.
So the big banks, BlackRock, and brokerage firms went out, hedge funds, went out and did their put options in March, April, and May.
Then, Saturday, they go, oh, no, sorry, it's today.
Signs the orders, and now they're having to do them now, and it just totally reveals what they're doing.
And there's a lot of ways to mitigate that by exposing it and the public not buying it, but Kirk Elliott's really smart economist, and I agree with him.
So also people don't need to be part of a conspiracy in order to think that it's a good idea to bet against the stock market if Trump does the things he's announced he's going to do.
Even members of Trump's cabinet and his biggest supporters have said things like there's going to be some pain if he does this stuff.
But they just pretend that that leads to a better place after the pain because it does for them.
The super rich.
For the rest of us, the pain continues.
Markets like a little bit of predictability.
Investment isn't the same thing as gambling, so a measure of stability is needed for things to work how they're supposed to.
Trump is acting like a giant ball of uncertainty, saying he's putting on these huge tariffs and then delaying it and then saying he's going to put them in, but bigger.
It's not hospitable to investment, so that makes some people...
A bit more likely to want to have some put options in there.
So Alex is, he's like, they're putting all these put options and shorting the stock market and what have you, all because Trump just wants to put some tariffs in.
This demolishes that whole system, and it is very aggressive.
It is very financially violent.
But it's a revolution.
So you really want to blow the hell out of the New World Order.
You want to destroy their system and really flood the country with industry and jobs and innovation and cheap energy and grow our way out of the fact that they had us ready for collapse.
It's going to be messy.
So this is extremely bold, extremely well thought out, and the key to it all is lightning-fast, brutal implementation to keep the bad guys off balance.
And again, my assessment in the first week was Trump was doing 100% of what I thought he should, and I couldn't believe he was doing such a great job.
By a week and a half in, I said he's 200% what I would have thought.
You talk about rearranging deck chairs when the Titanic's right at the bottom of the ocean.
I mean, and you ought to see the freak show of the DNC election.
I mean, you want to know, I mean, look.
If you thought the Clintons a few weeks ago at Trump's inauguration looked like they'd seen a ghost, this is ten times more horrible than it was even then for them.
He became one of the five vice chairs, and Alex should probably just let this one go.
He knows nothing about David Hogg other than the fact that Hogg survived the Parkland shooting and then was the target of an intense harassment campaign carried out by Alex and his associates like noted AI expert and Ebola curer Mike Adams.
He ran a site that was just dedicated to David Hogg, who was at that point still in high school.
Well, to be fair, maybe he wasn't in high school at that time because 17 of his classmates had been murdered.
This is the person that you're choosing to now be like, he's a low-grade moron?
Yeah, but it also is why whenever you have a conversation with somebody about it, there's two reactions, which is like, well, he didn't actually do that, or he didn't actually mean it, because it's so fucking crazy that your instinct is to go, no human being could do that.