In this installment, Dan and Jordan check out an "emergency broadcast" Alex released on Saturday about how people are wrong to be mad at him for still liking Elon Musk, who has declared his intention to fight against "negativity" on Twitter.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your word. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, you caught me. | ||
| You caught me. | ||
| You slowed it down. | ||
| Your timing's off. | ||
| Timing was off. | ||
| Oh, Dan. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your price about today, buddy? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| I will tell you this. | ||
| There's a new Netflix special for Philomena Kunk. | ||
| Squid Game 2? | ||
| No. | ||
| Kunk on Life. | ||
| And Philomena Kunk is like this TV presenter parody kind of thing where you know how there's those... | ||
| Like a Jiminy Glick situation. | ||
| Not... | ||
| Quite. | ||
| More like a documentarian who's giving you that short version of history. | ||
| Let's describe the 60s in a half hour. | ||
| So there's stuff that they get wrong and there's things that they paper over. | ||
| And her character is, what if you got everything wrong? | ||
| And what if you papered over everything and just said all kinds of nonsense to people who have dedicated their lives to learning? | ||
| This special is fantastic for one reason. | ||
| I think there's a truly daring piece of comedy. | ||
| The first kind that I've seen in a long, long time. | ||
| Where she straight up fucks with a guy who is skinned six people alive. | ||
| Who's on death row. | ||
| And she fucking straight up... | ||
| Fucks with him in a way that he has never experienced in his life. | ||
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But he's on death row. | |
| He's not going to skin him. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, it is genuinely like a really interesting piece of comedy. | ||
| And I want you to watch it. | ||
| Well, it's emotionally bold. | ||
| I would not want to be in that situation, but I wouldn't be scared of him skinning me. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I genuinely think it's an interesting piece. | ||
| I think you should watch it. | ||
| I think it's really interesting and a little daring. | ||
| All right, I'll watch it. | ||
| And Squid Game 2. Sure. | ||
| Squid Games. | ||
| I have not watched that yet. | ||
| Nah, you'll be fine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| Well, I have been thinking about it. | ||
| We're in 2025. | ||
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The year of fives. | |
| I like that. | ||
| 20 is four fives. | ||
| Four fives. | ||
| Four fives. | ||
| Five fives. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Four five five five. | ||
| Four five five five. | ||
| It was brought to my attention that in 2021 we did Blackjack. | ||
| 2020, there was the, I'm Dan and this is 2020, the Robert Walters. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We've not done something like that in a while. | ||
| It has been a while. | ||
| And since we're at the beginning of the year, it is an opportunity to do that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| And I don't know what to do. | ||
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Well, I don't think 4-4-4-5s is going to be the one. | |
| 4-4s versus 4-5s. | ||
| No, that's definitely not it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But I've been sending out these buttons, and I got a message from... | ||
| Some people have had suggestions of the year of the seltzer, year of the blank. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| And a couple were pretty close to this, and I thought it was an interesting choice, and I think it's vague enough that I can pull it off. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I am going to eat something weird. | ||
| Once a week for 2025. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Eating something weird. | ||
| Now, this was inspired by a certain grocery store that I have mentioned many times. | ||
| We've said a lot, yeah. | ||
| And I'm probably going to get a fair amount of things there, but I didn't want to make it the year of that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because they're not sponsoring us. | ||
| No, that's not okay. | ||
| It's too close of a connection for the whole year. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But a lot of weird things will probably end up being sourced from this unnamed grocery store. | ||
| They do it right. | ||
| And they have a bizarre selection of things. | ||
| You can always count on them for a curveball. | ||
| But we're starting off the year of something weird. | ||
| The year of weird. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| Something will take shape. | ||
| The year of weird? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Something will take shape. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this was from the package of candies that our friend Al sent. | ||
| And there's a lot of stuff in there. | ||
| A fair amount of marshmallow kind of things. | ||
| But there was also this, which is called Cheekies, which looked troubling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They look troubling! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a troubling look! | ||
| Yeah, it kind of looks like a black-faced doll of some sort. | ||
| It is a British candy only, let's put it that way. | ||
| Yeah, and it's chewy, chalk-flavored jelly bellies. | ||
| Or jelly babies. | ||
| And so it's like Sour Patch Kids, but they're chocolate-flavored. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I thought that sounded like a disaster. | ||
| Yeah, that does sound like a disaster. | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| They're pretty good. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I think I might order... | ||
| Some more of them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I might order back. | ||
| I would hope that comes in several boxes because it looks a bit like a Tintin broke free and made candy. | ||
| Yeah, it's not. | ||
| They should up their design game. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| But I thought like, okay, you have this like kind of Jelly Baby vibe and chocolate is such a foreign flavor for a chewy kind of gummy thing. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| There's no way this is going to be, they're going to pull it off. | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I would prefer that to a Tootsie Roll. | ||
| So 2025 starting off all right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Weird thing I'm eating. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| 2025. | ||
| We'll come up with something catchy. | ||
| It's tough because those others happen so naturally and in the moment. | ||
| And now we're kind of thinking about it. | ||
| Which is always difficult. | ||
| Something will come. | ||
| So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about an emergency broadcast that Alex did on Saturday. | ||
| I should say that he did come back to studio on Friday. | ||
| So he's been back from his vacation. | ||
| But Saturday... | ||
| Emergency. | ||
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Very important. | |
| Emergency. | ||
| Very important stuff going on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll get down to business on it, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, hey Kareem, yes you, can't wait to play that new monster hunter and go down some crazy conspiracy rabbit holes. | ||
| Love you bro, your friend Zach. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Do you remember that skater from Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, Kareem Campbell? | ||
| I do not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| K to the A to the R-double-E-M. | ||
| Kareem still lives. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| Next, I'm becoming a wonk on November 14th, the day of auction, to see how long it takes for you to get to the wonk shoutouts. | ||
| Hope that desk smells like onions. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Clementine. | ||
| I went into your office to talk about a fire sprinkler contract and you told me The Onion had bought Infowars.com and that you listened to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| This is the best news that I've heard in two weeks. | ||
| Signed, Scrooge McDuck. | ||
| Bad news, Scrooge. | ||
| Not that you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| That's good news. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Adam. | ||
| We've risen above our enemies. | ||
| Thank you for joining me in my special interest. | ||
| Love your sibling, Sandy. | ||
| Thank you so much, you and I are technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little, little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| So, we start off on the 4th, this Saturday. | ||
| Alex is doing this emergency transmission from his special secondary studio. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is not an Infowars situation. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is an Alex Jones Network situation. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| It is Saturday. | ||
| January 4th, 2025. | ||
| I am your embattled host, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, broadcasting worldwide from the backup studios of the Alex Jones Network, complete with the servers, satellite uplinks, studio, and the great crew, of course. | ||
| And we have a larger studio that's pretty much completed right now, so that if they do shut down InfoWars in the next few weeks, there'll be an update on that coming up. | ||
| I'm ready to do that today. | ||
| We will be able to just seamlessly come right over here and continue the operation. | ||
| We just won't have. | ||
| That's what you want to hear. | ||
| Or those classic studios that we've been in for almost 16 years of my 30-plus years on air. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But that is not what I'm going to cover first today, though it is an important update on the war that's still ongoing against the independent free press, not just here, but across the world. | ||
| By the globalist. | ||
| So it seems like he's kind of made a little bit of peace with losing that stuff. | ||
| Does feel like that. | ||
| I don't feel like there's a lot of fight in him when he's talking about this. | ||
| I think there's a bit of a resignation. | ||
| And I think that there's something shocking about the, like, we've retreated to the backup studios. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As opposed, no one dragged him there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's sad. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, to mind ears, if you will, I would say that the squirrel defends his nest far less when he's moved most of, not all of his acorns to a different nest. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's kind of the vibe that I get. | ||
| He's kind of checked out of the other nest a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's not the big news, though. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's not what we're going to be covering today. | ||
| There's other important things, like everyone is jealous of Alex Jones. | ||
| I am your host, Alex Jones, and obviously this is an emergency broadcast. | ||
| And I've noticed that not so much the left, they're more horrified of the transmission, but a lot of the other folks that have talk shows and podcasts and do a lot of great work, but they're jealous because obviously we have one of the largest audiences in the world, not just of patriot media, not just of anti-globalist media, but of any shows on the planet. | ||
| We're in the top. | ||
| Two or three of any English-speaking transmission because of the great listeners that support the broadcast, the great crew, our great guests, our great reporters, and the work that I obviously do. | ||
| But I always say what I really believe about something. | ||
| And that doesn't mean sometimes I don't get things a little wrong or sometimes a lot wrong, but I'm in the high 90s accuracy rate, and I think I'm kind of known for being one of the most dead-on, over-the-horizon type individuals. | ||
| And then sometimes I think I was wrong about something. | ||
| It turns out later, actually, I was right. | ||
| But usually, where I am the most wrong, after 30-plus years on air, I can have some major hindsight that's beyond 2020. | ||
| It's that I tend to underestimate how bad things are. | ||
| We've all heard the saying, we need new conspiracy theories because they all came true. | ||
| So wait, what's going on here? | ||
| You're doing a special report because other people are, like, talking shit or they're jealous of you and you're right. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| Why are we doing this? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| No. | ||
| All I could do is tell that something was sitting unwell with him. | ||
| There's something that is causing him severe discomfort. | ||
| I have a problem here. | ||
| And this is a thing that I would like settled, right? | ||
| If you say... | ||
| I'm known for saying what I believe. | ||
| Over the horizon, baby. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That doesn't mean that I don't get things wrong sometimes. | ||
| My question is, if you are aware that you do get things wrong sometimes, do you change what you believe or do you just continue to believe the thing that's wrong? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Have you ever reconsidered some of those beliefs? | ||
| Sometimes I'm wrong, but I continue believing it anyway. | ||
| Seems like a psychopathic way of viewing life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Kind of like, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it makes sense. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| No, it makes sense. | ||
| I'm just worried that you're aware that you're a psychopath, you know? | ||
| Well, and that's something that I think runs through this, that I think is fascinating, is that there's this awareness. | ||
| In this next clip, he's almost self-aware of the fact that he calls everything an emergency transmission, and he has called this an emergency transmission. | ||
| And so there's just a defensiveness. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Russia's leaders saying we're the closest to nuclear war ever and all the other mainline military analysts agreeing with that. | ||
| Is that an emergency? | ||
| So when you're talking about something that is a serious threat to the existence of all life on the surface of the planet, that the International Atomic Association of Scientists in their whole 60, 70 year, whether it's up in the 50s, history, they say we're the closest to nuclear war we've ever been. | ||
| I totally agree with them. | ||
| Is that... | ||
| An emergency. | ||
| Is that a threat? | ||
| And of course, the answer is yes, that is an emergency. | ||
| So if you're a show, if you're a broadcast, talking about those emergencies, shouldn't it be an emergency broadcast? | ||
| See, people trying to not want you to be urgent, people not wanting you to put your house out when it's on fire, well, Who are they working for? | ||
| So here is the sense that you get. | ||
| You have him complaining about some people who are not leftists, who are talking some shit. | ||
| They're complaining about him. | ||
| And then there's this long bit of defensiveness about calling everything... | ||
| An emergency. | ||
| It seems like someone was making fun of him for calling things emergencies. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're at the point where you're saying, uh-uh-uh-uh-uh, okay, a broadcast about an emergency is by definition an emergency broadcast, you're on the wrong side. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I get the logic there, but it's bad argumentation. | ||
| It's fine to say that the subjects Alex covers constitute emergencies, I guess. | ||
| A lot of them are exaggerated or entirely made up, but if they weren't, they would be emergencies. | ||
| The issue is what the purpose of an emergency transmission is for the viewer. | ||
| An entertainment show about emergencies is not an emergency transmission, because an emergency transmission implies the need for immediate action. | ||
| Tornado sirens going off to signal that you should get to shelter is an emergency transmission. | ||
| A show discussing this year's hurricane season or tornado season is not. | ||
| Alex's marketing relies on heightening everything so far past the point of serious conversation that it sometimes becomes self-parody. | ||
| Just about every show he puts out has some kind of flashy headline like, Emergency Transmission or World War III Launched Officially, because he's trying to fuck with the audience's brain so they think that the show is a tornado siren as opposed to a show about tornadoes he needs to do tricks like this to circumvent any potential for critical thinking because his information wouldn't stand up to any critical scrutiny uh clearly yeah alex knows all this and because he's sided with elon in terms of the whole immigration thing i suspect he's been | ||
| Bit of bad feedback from areas of his audience that are more overtly into white nationalism. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Those kinds of people never actually liked Alex to begin with, but they recognized the value of his show as a stepping stone to their ideology, so they humored all the embarrassing Alex aspects and the constant emergency reports. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It wasn't worth fighting about that stuff because he was a net positive. | ||
| And the hardcore racists may not feel that way anymore, which makes Alex feel a little bit defensive. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that's kind of existing in the... | ||
| I wonder... | ||
| Okay, here's my question for the hardcore racists, alright? | ||
| Don't you owe this current hardcore racism to the people who are not as hardcore racist as you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| No, totally, but you can't venerate that. | ||
| You have to still attack it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| In order to maintain your position as the hardcore stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You must always be eating your own... | ||
| You must always bite the hand that feeds you. | ||
| But they always have been of Alex, too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's just that sometimes it'll lash out a little bit. | ||
| Sometimes it'll get to a point where there's an actual impasse, which is the stuff like supporting Elon, supporting the H-1B visas, that kind of stuff, is like a flare-up of this uneasy truce that they have. | ||
| Like, white supremacists and neo-Nazis, they will make fun of Alex privately, I'm sure, but they won't... | ||
| Have those same criticisms publicly because he's useful as a marketing tool. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And then when there are little flare-ups, maybe you're like, hey, your show's fucking stupid. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You keep saying everything's an emergency report to try and trick people into paying attention to you. | ||
| Maybe you say things like that during those flare-ups. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Whereas you just keep it to yourself when he's useful and everything's going fine. | ||
| Man! | ||
| So Alex is dealing with that, I think. | ||
| It sucks to get old, if that's who, you know, because it sucks to be the person biting the hand that feeds and then start feeding people and get your hand bit and be like, come on, guys! | ||
| It's disappointing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this, we'll run through the rest of this, but there's a couple of topics that Alex hits that maybe are worth touching on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| When they say man-made climate change is a threat, well, obviously it isn't man-made climate, you know, affects... | ||
| And all the real studies are just basically not even in existence. | ||
| It's one micron of a percent. | ||
| It's not even registering compared to the sun and other big things that have the main effect on the planet. | ||
| The sun's like 99.9% of it in the major astrophysics studies. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| They just tell you in UN declarations, oh, the sun, that doesn't affect climate. | ||
| They actually had a declaration, what, seven years ago. | ||
| Type it in if you don't believe me. | ||
| UN declares the sun has no effect on climate. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Oxygen has no effect on your bloodstream. | ||
| You don't need oxygen. | ||
| But this is a key thing I'm explaining here up front before we go into all this massive breaking news. | ||
| And it is that they are creating a crisis and they're telling you that it's because you're bad and you had too many kids and because you have a car or because you have a swimming pool or because you eat red meat. | ||
| So the UN never said that the sun has nothing to do with climate. | ||
| Scientists have just been super clear that changes in the sun's energy output can't explain the climate change that we've seen since the Industrial Revolution and forward. | ||
| One major reason for this is that climate change has accelerated severely since the 1970s, during which time there hasn't been a comparable change in solar activity. | ||
| If these two things had a causal relationship, they would run parallel to each other and they do not. | ||
| The other observation that puts this solar hypothesis in trouble is that if it were all just the sun, then everything would be heating up. | ||
| Every layer of the atmosphere would be seeing the same effect, and that's not the case. | ||
| As is pointed out on Climate.gov, quote, Alex's argument is just wrong and dumb. | ||
| That's because it's not an argument. | ||
| It's a way to dodge the actual argument in favor of having an argument that he would prefer to have, which is not real, which is about... | ||
| Massive fun conspiracies and demons and stuff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So he's trying to play the game of like, there is an actual crisis here, but it's not the crisis of climate change, it's the crisis of the globalists using that against you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, it is an interesting thing on account of like, yeah, there are a lot of current crises currently happening, and even if we were great at dealing with those... | ||
| We're still shitty at dealing with climate change. | ||
| Like, that's a real bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is a real bummer. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I was reading a thing about, I don't know how this happens, you know, sometimes you get caught in the algorithm and it'll actually give you something that you're interested in, and so it was going over the history of tall tsunami waves, which, if you're talking waves, you're gonna get me. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And there was a wave that was higher than the Burj Khalifa. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| And it's like... | ||
| That's a wave. | ||
| It's a big old wave. | ||
| That's a wave. | ||
| And then I started thinking about it and I thought, you know, we're young enough that it is far more likely in our lifetimes to see a wave taller than that. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And then I was like, I'm never going to go near a coastline. | ||
| It's just never going to happen. | ||
| Landlocked forever. | ||
| Because you think that will be when that wave happens. | ||
| I mean, obviously it will be my fault. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You're like a magnet. | ||
| I got to stay landlocked. | ||
| Otherwise, the wave, well, I mean, that might be a bad idea, because then the waves are going to try and come and get me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then we're talking big waves. | ||
| Yeah, they have to be much bigger if you're further from the coast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I think that, you know, obviously this is a real subject and shit, and most of the show is Alex whining, but I wanted to bring it in mostly because of this next clip. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Where he's trying to find evidence of his claims that the UN doesn't want breathing. | ||
| No. | ||
| I show you what I'm talking about. | ||
| In fact, I love the crew. | ||
| I didn't tell them to do it, so they were unable to find it. | ||
| I didn't tell them before the show. | ||
| But I don't want to say on air that the UN just came out and environmental groups just came out and said humans breathing is bad. | ||
| That doesn't sound real. | ||
| It's so evil. | ||
| And so I'm very neurotic right now. | ||
| I'm going to have to find that myself. | ||
| Because I must show you what I'm talking about. | ||
| I can't make a statement so over the top like that. | ||
| And then not show you. | ||
| Because, I mean, it's true. | ||
| And it's insane. | ||
| So, you know, that's just where we are. | ||
| Scientists say gases we excel simply by breathing contribute to 0.013 of the greenhouse gas emissions. | ||
| Okay, you found one from two years ago. | ||
| But they came out two weeks ago and said humans breathing is bad. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I have to stop being so OCD. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| I've got very, very, very, very OCD about stuff. | ||
| But how the hell is the crew supposed to find everything I just say? | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| The U.N. loves you. | ||
| That's why they tell you don't have any kids. | ||
| I'm going to find out during the break. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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I must have it. | |
| I must have it. | ||
| Hell, I got video on this thing. | ||
| I'll find it. | ||
| All right, but I'm going to move out of this and get into the big news on the emergency broadcast. | ||
| Yeah, it's an emergency. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's an emergency. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I love a good... | ||
| People say that there's no way that's true, but it must be true. | ||
| And it's not. | ||
| People are totally correct. | ||
| Sometimes people are correct when they go, there's no way that's true. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But he doesn't change his beliefs. | ||
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Nope. | |
| That's an issue! | ||
| I feel like that's the issue. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And very well illustrated by that clip. | ||
| And also, I think that there's something really funny about someone going out to a commercial break yelling about how it's an emergency when they're doing a show that doesn't need to have commercial breaks. | ||
| There's no reason. | ||
| He's not on the radio. | ||
| This is on Saturday. | ||
| This isn't one of his shows. | ||
| He can do this with no commercials. | ||
| He owns it. | ||
| It's on the Alex Jones network. | ||
| He technically doesn't own it. | ||
| I think that's also an issue. | ||
| So I was still wrestling, even as he went out to break, with like, why are we doing this show? | ||
| The best I could tell is that Alex feels bad. | ||
| And he wants to complain. | ||
| And then I kind of realized what was up. | ||
| I have to tell you, I responded to Elon yesterday, and that went viral, to his post that I'll be reading on there next hour. | ||
| And I just simply said this to give you a little... | ||
| Prelude to what I'm getting into. | ||
| Who defines negativity? | ||
| You see, I see everything I do as extremely positive. | ||
| That's my goal. | ||
| I look back sometimes and say, hey, I could have done that a lot better. | ||
| A lot of times I nail it. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So the day before this, on the 3rd, Elon tweeted, quote, algorithm tweak coming soon to promote more informational slash entertaining content. | ||
| Our goal is to maximize unregretted user seconds. | ||
| Too much negativity is being pushed that technically grows user time, but not unregretted user time. | ||
| Naturally, this is a complete betrayal of the very basic premise of the Trump world's support of Elon, who had taken over Twitter and turned it into the only real free speech platform in the world. | ||
| The idea that he would game the system to favor things that he finds informational or entertaining and hide things that are pushing, quote, negativity, runs directly counter to everything he's supposed to stand for. | ||
| It's super obvious that he was interested in power and Trump was the means to achieve power. | ||
| He gave the dude a ton of money and now he gets to run a fake government efficiency office and he owns the largest social media company in the world where he gets to determine what's too negative to be seen by users. | ||
| He's already claimed in court an absolute ownership of everyone's accounts and has provided financial incentives for people to follow his rules to farm engagement. | ||
| Basically, Alex and every one of these right wing dipshits who signed up with Elon and supported him got played by an obvious con. | ||
| He should have listened to David Icke when he had a chance, but now Alex is in way too deep. | ||
| It probably won't matter because there's no such thing as continuity in his audience, but this should be a severely discrediting kind of moment for Alex with the audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Elon is the Trump of 2024 for Alex. | |
| In 2016, Trump came along and offered Alex relevancy and respect and adjacency to power. | ||
| And even though he clearly knew better, Alex bent the knee and signed up as Trump's most pathetic spokesperson. | ||
| And the same thing happened with Elon in this election cycle, except that Trump actually went on Alex's show. | ||
| This time around, some dude who sounds like Elon kept calling into Alex's show, This is sad. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Like, him saying we're gonna de-incentivize negativity. | ||
| I mean, I... | ||
| You know, I don't even know. | ||
| First off, I don't even know what he means. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, I do. | ||
| Capriciousness is in style. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But I mean, just the usage of unregretted time makes me want to fight him. | ||
| Just on account of, like, don't... | ||
| Don't say, oh, all time is regretted. | ||
| Well, yeah, but it's unquantifiable in a way to run cover for you to make the decisions that you want to make as a social media site owner that you understand run counter to the promises that you made a bunch of shitheads. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Give me some numbers that say it's smart for me to do the thing that I want to do, whether I have numbers or not. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| Do you think he has a quantifiable number for unregretted user time? | ||
| I mean, I don't even know what... | ||
| Fuck out of here. | ||
| What even would that be? | ||
| Who defines regretted time? | ||
| I think that he would regret... | ||
| Any further catering to the people that he fucking clearly hates. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That he was giving a million dollars to sign up to vote. | ||
| Ooh, look at me! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The people he has an utter disdain for, which are Trump's base and all these folks. | ||
| I think that would be regretted user time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he's signaling a little bit of that. | ||
| I feel a certain amount of bad for a lot of people who got conned. | ||
| And who just legitimately got conned, you know? | ||
| Because you can get conned. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Not in this one. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's tough, but it's hard not to... | ||
| How do you get out of the con if you know that the moment you try and leave the con, everyone's going to be like, told you so. | ||
| I feel a certain amount of empathy on a human level, but then I don't care too much. | ||
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I agree. | |
| Because this whole thing, this whole Trump movement and all this shit was supposed to be about The undue power of corporations and the unelected bureaucrats and the elites and all this stuff and how they're trying to keep the common man down and all this stuff. | ||
| And if the con that you fall for is Elon Musk, then I don't feel all that bad. | ||
| You know, you've argued me into agreement. | ||
| So Alex is staking his position, which is clearly like... | ||
| He's not going to abandon the power and shit that appearing to be close to Musk provides him. | ||
| And I think that that's the tension that was at the top of the episode. | ||
| And the reason why this is happening. | ||
| So Alex goes on to talk about how he's proud to be white. | ||
| You know, it's like the anti-Israel crowd. | ||
| I got big problems with Israel. | ||
| Big problems with the ADL and AIPAC and, you know, the stuff they do. | ||
| And I've been critical of them thousands and thousands and thousands of times, but not because the people that just hate Jews in general, you know, have attacked me. | ||
| I've done it from a position of, hey, there's some big problems with what's going on and how people can run that have committed crimes to Israel and all the rest of it. | ||
| But I'm also critical of Communist China and its leadership, not of the Chinese people. | ||
| And so I would probably be more critical of Israel. | ||
| Except I don't want to be aligned with the cult of Jew haters that just hate Jews in general and just come off nasty and evil and maniacal and lie. | ||
| Because I know they're lying about a lot because they lie about me for 30 years. | ||
| I went on air 30 years ago, 31 years in April. | ||
| And I just wanted a big tent for everybody to promote freedom. | ||
| I'm not a closet white supremacist. | ||
| I am. | ||
| I'm pro-human, and I'm also proud to be Anglo, and I think whites have been targeted, and that's wrong, and whites shouldn't be apologetic, and we should stand up for ourselves, and our culture's great, and I think the West has been amazing. | ||
| I mean, you could argue by many perspectives, superior. | ||
| I mean, I will say that the Caucasians are amazing. | ||
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I think all humans are amazing, but I'm really proud to be white. | |
| That doesn't mean I hate other humans. | ||
| Yes, it does! | ||
| I've been involved fighting the globalists for 30 years, and back when people, 30 years ago, this was like 1 or 2% of the population knew about this, and I'd say about a third of them back then were pretty much Hitler lovers. | ||
| You'd go over to their house for dinner, some prominent person that wrote books, whatever, you read their books, and they were like, hey, Hitler's really good, isn't he? | ||
| Have you ever actually read his speeches? | ||
| And I'm just like, yeah, I mean, I don't think Hitler's good. | ||
| You know, I... | ||
| I understand what we're told about World War II wasn't true, and that Germany had problems, and the Versailles Treaty, oh, you know about that? | ||
| Yeah, I know quite a bit about it all. | ||
| But I just also don't like the Nazis. | ||
| It's kind of like, I don't like Stalin. | ||
| I can't think of any reason why. | ||
| It's just because Hitler's bad doesn't mean Stalin's good. | ||
| Just because there were evil people in the British government and others, just because the Rothschilds are bad and evil, doesn't mean Hitler's good. | ||
| So, I've been in this since I was 20 years old. | ||
| And I was informed since I was about 10, so I said I'd get into censorship next hour. | ||
| I'm really just trying to say to everybody here that I am who I say I am, and everything I stand for is completely transparent. | ||
| Okay, so that was pretty revealing. | ||
| I would say that if I were involved in a movement where like one-third of the people involved were Nazis, I would start to ask some hard questions about that movement. | ||
| That's way too high of a percentage to be a coincidence. | ||
| You should be really worried that maybe your ideology is just a respectable public mask for Nazis to wear, and maybe you're being duped. | ||
| But beyond that, a couple of important points here. | ||
| First, there isn't really a problem with being proud of being a white person necessarily. | ||
| He's welcome to have that relationship with his heritage, putting it as a white person as opposed to something more specific about where your family's from. | ||
| That's a little bit messy, but the issue really is when pride in your heritage becomes a need to exclude people who you perceive to not be members of your heritage. | ||
| For instance, Alex recognizing the contributions of Anglo peoples through history is fine, but when it's expressed constantly by him complaining about how there's too many black characters in movies, you get the sense that... | ||
| Second, Alex has a whole world of complaints at his disposal about Israel there at the beginning, and he chooses to complain about the ADL and AIPAC, and then says he doesn't like that people can commit crimes and then run to Israel. | ||
| Instead of his concern with the Israeli government being based in some kind of opposition to the treatment of Palestinians or any other grievance he could raise, he brings up a specifically neo-Nazi coded complaint. | ||
| This is a dual loyalty trope that Alex is employing. | ||
| It's the neo-Nazi position that since any Jewish person can become a citizen of Israel, they can never really be loyal to any other country. | ||
| There's nothing stopping them from committing whatever crimes they want, and then at the first sign of trouble, they can just run off to Israel to avoid any consequences. | ||
| This is what neo-Nazis constantly attacked Alex about because his first wife was Jewish, and thus their children were Jewish, and made it so Alex could expatriate whenever he wanted to. | ||
| That was their argument. | ||
| It's worth noting that this is the first thing that comes to his mind when he's thinking of complaints about Israel. | ||
| It's almost like the world he's been involved in since he was a kid was at least one-third neo-Nazis and he never cared to even consider what that influence might have had on the information that he took in and how he processed it. | ||
| Almost like the air he's breathed in his whole life is racist shit to the point where he doesn't even know that not everyone does that. | ||
| Like, there's such a thing as oxygen. | ||
| You don't have to breathe this shit. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Listen, I'm not a neo-Nazi. | ||
| I'm not a white nationalist. | ||
| I agree with everything they think. | ||
| Period. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I have heard some people very wisely or very humorously say when someone... | ||
| Says something, say less. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, instead of say more? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I feel like Alex would be well served by him being like, I have a lot of complaints about Israel. | ||
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Say less. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't keep going, because this is fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, I think it was Lincoln who put it best when he said, I'd rather everybody thought I was a white nationalist than open my mouth and remove all doubt. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Western culture is superior. | ||
| That's just not a good thing to start with. | ||
| No, it's not great. | ||
| To understand, I understand your arguments. | ||
| I understand each of these groups has its beef, and we organize into tribes, we organize into gangs. | ||
| That's what I call it. | ||
| It's part of our biology and part of our instincts to do it, and I understand exactly how you all feel. | ||
| But you have to understand that I've studied the sociology, the psychology, the anthropology, but also have the overlay of my spiritual connection to the infinite and God, and I follow what the directive of the Holy Spirit tells me, and it's that I'm trying to unify people. | ||
| Around a pro-human vision. | ||
| Doesn't mean we don't stand up for our cultures or our sovereignty or our territorial issues. | ||
| No, no, we do that. | ||
| But from a position of strength and to lift others up, not have our instinct to lift others up used against us to bring in others. | ||
| Who are then turned against us, which is absolutely being done. | ||
| The idea that white people are the only ones that are tribal or racist, and the idea that white people are a bad thing and if they're just gotten rid of, the world's going to be a perfect, wonderful place, is being pushed by BlackRock and Larry Fink and some of those lobbies that are in competition with the superiority of Western culture and do not want the world to adopt Western culture that comes from the Nordic and Caucasian peoples. | ||
| And they don't want that idea to be supreme because in that system, there isn't room for tyrannical, centralized, anti-human groups. | ||
| So I'm trying to sell the spirit of the West and the ideas of the West, 1776 worldwide, the flower of the West and the Renaissance, and the current great counter-revolution to the depopulationist. | ||
| And I understand the different schools of thoughts. | ||
| I understand the different substratas. | ||
| I've studied it all. | ||
| This is what I do. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| And so I am trying to get people to look at it from the outside at 35,000 feet. | ||
| Are you? | ||
| To see things from my perspective. | ||
| And when you have my perspective, it doesn't mean you believe what I believe. | ||
| It doesn't believe you know what I know. | ||
| It doesn't mean you have my interpretations. | ||
| It simply means that you are at least looking at the things I'm saying and I'm showing you. | ||
| What I'm looking at, I'm showing you my interpretation, and I'm asking you, will you please put yourself in my eyes? | ||
| Will you put your eyes behind my eyes? | ||
| And will you, Lexi, listen? | ||
| I have. | ||
| I've been doing that for a while, and it's not great. | ||
| Could you, I mean, it is hard to imagine him not using more, like... | ||
| Idioms and ideas all taken from every culture other than the one that he is crowing about and then ending it with, essentially, walk two moons in my shoes, would you? | ||
| Won't you consider things from my perspective? | ||
| I think that I get what he's saying, and that is that, like, I'm trying to sell white supremacy, but... | ||
| Without the baggage, baby. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| There's a part that people all really don't like. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that part we're trying to pretend isn't here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you guys are really hung up on pushing it. | ||
| I want to talk about the places where I can defend our superiority. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I want to tell you that all the other places don't exist, meaning we're superior in all ways. | ||
| It's a very interesting perspective that his eyes reveal. | ||
| I don't think it's a good one. | ||
| Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. | ||
| Again, I would have shut up if I were him, but he doesn't need to be doing the show to begin with. | ||
| This is just him. | ||
| Being mad because Elon Musk's getting some flack on Twitter. | ||
| I just want to get out here and make sure everybody knows that I'm a white nationalist in order to protect against how people might feel about me kowtowing to a weird billionaire who I've ostensibly supposed to have been fighting against my entire career. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You white nationalists are really mad at this guy. | ||
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| And I'm not going to abandon him yet, but I don't want you to think I'm not cool. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, emergency broadcast. | ||
| Emergency broadcast. | ||
| Hey, guys. | ||
| I'm still racist. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| But I still like Musk. | ||
| But what is negativity? | ||
| I want money and racism. | ||
| Why can't we all just get together on board and give me money and you guys continue being racist? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Elon Musk is trying to get rid of negativity. | ||
| Good. | ||
| And this is too vague for Alex, which I have to say is great. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| There's so many ways to go at this, but I think the best way is to just start on Elon Musk and his announcement about this new anti-negativity algorithm. | ||
| And he is a maverick, and he always basically does things different than the other systems. | ||
| But I don't see how you have a statement like that of its very nature where it's one word, negativity, and then someone defines what that is, and then they decide what they're going to basically algorithmize. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Of reach, which is currency. | ||
| Reach is currency. | ||
| It's the ultimate form of communication. | ||
| The ability to communicate. | ||
| Well, the First Amendment's first. | ||
| So, that said, there's clearly things that I wouldn't even call censorship. | ||
| I mean, negativity would be child porn, producing it or posting it. | ||
| Negativity would be telling people to go out and poison the water supply. | ||
| Negativity would be... | ||
| Doing everything Democrats do, saying let's take people's kids away from them and sterilize them. | ||
| But if I'm opposing that, it sounds negative. | ||
| You'll tell people, hey, you know what, there's a bad thing happening. | ||
| Oh, I don't want to be negative. | ||
| Well, no, no, it's positive to admit it's happening and expose it. | ||
| But you can see how, yeah, let's block child porn and things like that because that's not just negative, it's destructive and it's death and it's illegal. | ||
| But then if I'm exposing it's going on, Well, then you can say, well, it's negative to talk about negative things, but it's not negative. | ||
| If I've got a broken tooth and, oh, my tooth's broken, oh, just say your tooth's not broken, don't be negative. | ||
| No, I'm going to call it into something and go get it fixed. | ||
| I broke one last week. | ||
| So, again, it's who defines negativity. | ||
| Okay, so negativity is a super vague standard, which is why the owner of a social media company shouldn't make declarations like Musk did. | ||
| It's great to encourage more productive, positive interactions and to model that through your actions, but Musk is one of the biggest shitheads on social media. | ||
| He owns the site, and he was announcing a change. | ||
| to its algorithm. | ||
| There's no way to make this statement in a way that would go over well with anyone except the existing power structure that would welcome the opportunity to suppress viewpoints they don't like. | ||
| This is an insane conflict of interest because Elon has tons of government funding for various businesses and is the head of a fake efficiency office in the new Trump administration. | ||
| He's not some random individual who owns a social media site. | ||
| He's, in effect, a government official. | ||
| And that dynamic cannot be disentangled from his ownership of Twitter. | ||
| This should be illegal. | ||
| So when he says like this kind of, we're gonna get less negativity going, he exists as a government figure and as the owner of this site. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| It feels like you might even argue that railroad barons shouldn't own newspapers. | ||
| It's debatable. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| But beyond that, child exploitation material is a crime. | ||
| It's not negativity. | ||
| Musk doesn't have to adjust the algorithm to reduce the spread of that because the mechanisms to address it are already in place. | ||
| Alex is trying to fudge the definition of what Musk meant by negativity because if he were to approach this issue honestly, Alex would have to accept that Musk meant things I don't like and that Alex has given Musk what amounts to full control over the level, uh, levers of currency, which is speech and reach. | ||
| Musk making this announcement can't be understood outside of the context of his recent fight with Laura Loomer and various large Nazi accounts on Twitter who were super mad about his take on H1B visas. | ||
| The more racist wing of the extreme right turned on Elon pretty hard, and you can see that on Twitter. | ||
| If Alex were to address this issue accurately, he'd have to accept that Elon didn't care about free speech or any of these pretend ideals. | ||
| Buying Twitter was a play for power, and it worked. | ||
| Trump got into office, probably aided by Musk's actions as the head of Twitter and his large donations, and now Musk doesn't really have so much use for the free speech stuff as an organizing principle. | ||
| Alex played his role perfectly as a means of laundering Elon's actions, which has led to Elon getting the power that he sought. | ||
| Unfortunately for Alex, that's not going to trickle down. | ||
| And Elon isn't going to stay very interested in free speech once he's in a position where violating that principle serves his interests. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is where we're about at. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Usually you get into trouble whenever you accept somebody going, I don't want to control what people say. | ||
| I want to control what people hear. | ||
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| Mm-hmm. | ||
| I'll just accept that on face value. | ||
| And to be perfectly honest, like... | ||
| Moderating social media is a good thing, and I am not opposed to it. | ||
| And I think a well-intentioned person trying to make things less negative... | ||
| I think could go a long way. | ||
| Like, um, it was before Elon came. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Like, it was a little bit better in terms of people getting banned. | ||
| Not perfect, certainly. | ||
| I haven't seen anybody argue that it's gotten better under Elon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, my... | ||
| Well, I've seen... | ||
| I have seen people argue that, but incorrectly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My issue isn't the notion of, like, let's take a more proactive approach to moderating the content that flies around this bullshit site. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that's a problem. | ||
| I think it's that it's him who's doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I... | ||
| I think what he's doing is pretty see-through. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's more like, my problem is, has been and will continue to be him. | ||
| Yeah, I have never, and here's a thing that you would think would sooner or later seep into the entire human race. | ||
| Never, in recorded history, has giving the most wealthy man on the planet unilateral power wound up good. | ||
| It's never happened. | ||
| No, and whatever little bits of change you get from farming engagement and whatever he's opened up, whatever these avenues are, are a pittance. | ||
| They're not worth it. | ||
| I mean, I guess, listen, we did get the Sistine Chapel. | ||
| So, in one situation, I guess it worked out. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, Alex is really concerned about this stuff. | ||
| About this negativity definition. | ||
| But also, man, maybe Elon's right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I am very concerned about that, but I also am going to wait and see. | ||
| But see, I'm kind of already getting into this. | ||
| But you see, here's the problem. | ||
| There's thousands of points that go into this. | ||
| If you've got bots and organizations and groups going on X, trying to sow dissent, trying to divide and conquer, deliberately lying, and deliberately trying to hurt people, because you notice the left's been pretty quiet since Trump won, and their plans have come out before us, and we can see it, sow division in MAGA, get us all to fight with each other. | ||
| That's the tactic going on. | ||
| But you still have to criticize things that Trump does you disagree with or Congress. | ||
| That's all important. | ||
| So at the end of the day, I think the knowledge of the crowd and people's intelligence, that just what people share and look at and watch, over time, people are going to figure it out. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| But, yeah, I think that this is a sad rationalization. | ||
| Like, Elon and a lot of parts of the heroes that they've created, a lot of those people have fundamental disagreements with a large part of the MAGA base and what has energized a lot of the MAGA movement. | ||
| And it was a matter of time until the two would come head-to-head. | ||
| They would become... | ||
| I did probably think it would be after Trump got into office. | ||
| I didn't think it was going to be before even inauguration. | ||
| Keep it in-house. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it's very clear that these two things are not compatible. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| I've said this since Alex started cozying up to Elon Musk, that it's the correct position for people in his... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To be against Elon Musk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You cannot do... | ||
| He has a lot of positions that are quote-unquote globalism. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that you cannot square with your fundamental brand. | ||
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| And I think pretending that it's the left-sowing division when it's just the inevitable consequence of a bad ally relationship, I think that's sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, okay, the trade-off for being the guy who just goes... | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| And doesn't have the arguments behind it. | ||
| The one benefit you have is that you get to be the guy who just goes, fuck that guy. | ||
| And you don't have to spend time arguing about it. | ||
| You go, fuck that guy. | ||
| The end. | ||
| Because nobody's going to be... | ||
| No, you're not going to be popular. | ||
| People are going to be like, hey, there are very good reasons why you shouldn't just say, fuck that guy. | ||
| And you'll be like... | ||
| See, that's the difference. | ||
| I don't have to think about that. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's the benefit. | ||
| But what's even beyond that is that David Icke said, fuck that guy. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| And had compelling conspiracy theory reasons. | ||
| Totally! | ||
| So, like, he proved that you didn't have to walk this kowtowing path. | ||
| You don't! | ||
| And, um, I don't know. | ||
| I think it's embarrassing for Alex, and I think the fact that he's doing this episode is embarrassing. | ||
| It really is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This does not need to exist. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's showing a fundamental weakness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder if it is that, like, the ultimate... | ||
| The ultimate problem with the addiction to the immediate social media kind of thing is that you can't ever get to the point where you realize, if I just lay low for a week, no one will care. | ||
| No one will care or notice. | ||
| Because if you do find out that no one will care or notice, then you'll start to think, what if nobody cares or notices forever? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So even though it's like Zugzwang, is that the name of it? | ||
| Positive move in a chess game. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| Well, I think that once you have convinced your brain that reach and engagement is the only currency that matters, I think there is no positive move that you can make forward. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You've trapped yourself into a losing position no matter what you do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That can't be. | ||
| I bet Zugzwang is like moving to the left or something. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know what it is. | ||
| It sounded good. | ||
| It sounds real good. | ||
| That's maybe the only chess word I know. | ||
| So this doesn't sound good. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| So why would you then say, well, I'm going to put an algorithm in soon, and it's going to go after negativity, which is this completely nebulous term that can be twisted or applied however you want. | ||
| Now, that said, Musk has done so many maverick things that... | ||
| I would just say, you've done so much good in your big turn the last three and a half years that I will put my concerns out there like I just did, and I'm going to do more in a moment. | ||
| But at the same time, would you please start telling us how it works? | ||
| Would you please? | ||
| Unlike the other big tech companies, will you tell us the algorithm? | ||
| Well, you say, well, people can beat the algorithm then. | ||
| What, by being positive? | ||
| I mean, I want to know. | ||
| Because that's something like you'd ask God. | ||
| Like, God, what is positive, what is negative? | ||
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Oof. | |
| So what that boils down to is Alex saying, I don't really care about free speech or any of this shit I yell about all the time, but I need Elon to explain if and how I'm going to retain my access to people's attention, which is my primary currency. | ||
| How am I going to be able to use this, Elon? | ||
| This is the only real issue here. | ||
| Alex's severe Twitter addiction, how it's going to be affected by the new algorithmic changes. | ||
| That's what he's talking about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is fun. | ||
| If you're going to change the rules of the game, let me know in advance so I can exploit the game before everybody else can. | ||
| Please? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would you please... | ||
| How dare you be Alex Jones? | ||
| Asking a billionaire, would you please? | ||
| And comparing them to God. | ||
| That is disgusting. | ||
| So Alex goes to break, and they play a clip. | ||
| And we know there are two big boys in the world of Alex's commercial break video pieces. | ||
| You got John Bowne. | ||
| You got Greg Reese. | ||
| Those are the two. | ||
| The two guys with the weird voices that make package videos for Alex. | ||
| Probably at a cut rate. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So I was pretty shocked and surprised when I'm like, who is this person? | ||
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This is an emergency broadcast to all Americans. | |
| Political operatives have been working on a plan so insidious that if activated, it holds the power to destroy the United States from within. | ||
| Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution states that any elected official that engages in insurrection or rebellion against the state may be denied their position. | ||
| According to Democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin, this plan will be activated on January 6th, 2025. | ||
| So it's going to be up to us on January 6th. | ||
| That's today! | ||
| Hey! | ||
| The rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified, and then we need bodyguards for everybody in civil war conditions, all because... | ||
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Despite Donald Trump's acquittal on all charges of inciting insurrection. | |
| Democrats still claim Section 3 of the 14th Amendment allows them to declare Trump guilty through the court of public opinion. | ||
| So that's a load of bullshit. | ||
| But also, who is that person? | ||
| I don't know who this person is. | ||
| Those things make themselves now, I think. | ||
| I think. | ||
| That could be AI. | ||
| I think that congeals. | ||
| Yeah, Chase could just automate this. | ||
| Yeah, and it's not like creativity is required for it. | ||
| I mean, you could literally put in a template of music, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. | ||
| Quote, boo-doo-doo, cut video, boo-boo-boo. | ||
| Chase did that with the Alex Jones prompt. | ||
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The future, yeah. | |
| No, not even that one. | ||
| The one where he did a little bit of talk to me in the style of Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. | ||
| So, I mean, yeah, it bummed me out. | ||
| Here's what I will say, all right? | ||
| If my boss was migrating from a website to a fake website, And he still could afford to retain me? | ||
| I would think I wasn't being paid enough at the original job, right? | ||
| Like, you shouldn't be able to afford me if you're downsizing. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But hey, I just thought it was strange. | ||
| I thought it was strange that the... | ||
| Who is this person? | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Who is that person? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So Alex goes on to talk about how this is cool, what Elon's up to. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I saw a bunch of squawking and complaining in the last... | ||
| Weak about people being censored on X by people that the few times I've watched them just lie about me incessantly. | ||
| But I still said, okay, I'm going to look into that. | ||
| And then I learned Owen had his blue checkmark taken away, but he was on vacation last week, so was I. And I called him, and he said, I'm not sure exactly what's going on yet. | ||
| Let me wait. | ||
| And he knows more about how X works than I do. | ||
| I'm interested in the big general political stuff, but not the little nuts and bolts. | ||
| And I never pretended to be a super technician on that or even good at it. | ||
| And anybody that sees my post can see that. | ||
| But I talked to him again today. | ||
| He got back to town, visiting family. | ||
| And he'll be popping in with us in a little while, about 30 minutes or 20 minutes to give his take on it. | ||
| On accounts having their blue check marks taken away. | ||
| And then people will send me on X like, look, account's suspended. | ||
| And it's just a black screen. | ||
| With their name, most of the time I've never heard of them, and then I'll ask, like, what happened? | ||
| What are you being told? | ||
| I mean, it's not like I'm a wizard here, and if you get censored or you think you got censored, then I'm somehow Elon Musk brain or all of his employees, and I know what's going on. | ||
| Yeah, it's a new Twitter policy is freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. | ||
| So he's giving you an idea. | ||
| Negative hate tweets will... | ||
| Be maxed, de-boosted, and de-monetized so no ads or other revenue on Twitter. | ||
| You won't find the tweet unless you specifically seek it out, which is no different than the rest of the Internet. | ||
| So, yeah, yeah, I remember the original policy when we took over. | ||
| I remember that well. | ||
| So, really, he's just restating, I guess, the answer here. | ||
| I'm glad the crew reminded me of that. | ||
| Owen said that over the phone today, and I was talking to him and didn't really catch what he said. | ||
| He said, this is just freedom of speech, not freedom of reach. | ||
| And of course, Owen has been critical. | ||
| He's not defending it. | ||
| He's saying, no, that's just Elon's original deal is what he thought. | ||
| So this is kind of a fine position to have, that a social media company isn't obligated to give you free reign to post whatever you want. | ||
| I have no problem with that stance, but it's hilarious coming from Alex. | ||
| Before Elon bought Twitter, any time someone was suspended, it was some elaborate conspiracy to shadow ban the truth tellers. | ||
| The issue here is what the default assumption Alex works from has changed. | ||
| Previously, when something happened, it was an attack on all the patriots until someone could prove that it wasn't. | ||
| Jack banning people who post racist spam? | ||
| That was about creating the standard that censoring some people was okay, so later it could be used to censor people like Alex. | ||
| Now, Alex's assumption is that there's an explanation for what Musk is doing that isn't a grand attack on the Patriots until someone proves to him that it is. | ||
| He's even got this fun rhyme, freedom of speech, not freedom of reach, that he's repeating to try to justify. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Also, I thought that maybe he was talking about us when he said that people were always squawking about him. | ||
| But then I realized that it was impossible since I've never for a second cared about Twitter Reach. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So it was not. | ||
| Someone else is talking shit about him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's someone who cares about Twitter Reach and someone who is on his side, I guess? | ||
| Probably Fuentes, right? | ||
| I'm sure that some of those Groypers are Gripen. | ||
| They've got that. | ||
| That Groyper's Gripen. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| People have a hard time understanding, you know, like, it's not that you can't think it. | ||
| It's that you can't think it, you know? | ||
| Like, Alex, you can't do this. | ||
| Well, you can't while holding simultaneously these other beliefs that directly count. | ||
| Like, you have to choose one or the other. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Your beliefs are at an impasse. | ||
| You are at a crossroads. | ||
| That's where you are. | ||
| And you're very desperately trying to walk both roads. | ||
| And you can't. | ||
| And it's not going to work. | ||
| It sounds ridiculous. | ||
| And so, you know. | ||
| I was thinking about this squawker. | ||
| Who are these people squawking? | ||
| Who had the show called Squawk Box? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Did anybody? | ||
| Did I just make up that show in my head? | ||
| It's vaguely familiar. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I believe that it is. | ||
| I could be wrong, but I'm going to continue to believe that. | ||
| Squawks was the name of the parrot in Donkey Kong Country. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I was trying to figure out, like, what's going on here? | ||
| And it turns out there's some Nazis that don't like Alex anymore. | ||
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Sure, that'll happen. | |
| No one gave me, like, a ten-minute breakdown of it and still said he wasn't entirely sure. | ||
| That's my answer to these people, because I'll just see something come up in my feed with 200,000 views, and it's a video. | ||
| Like yesterday I saw, and I click it. | ||
| Alex Jones, you know, won't stand up for our speech. | ||
| And then I see in the video, I've made a deal with Elon. | ||
| He's paying me, and what else was it? | ||
| And my bankruptcy's fake, and none of this is real, and they're not trying to shut down InfoWars, and I won't stand up for these people. | ||
| And one of them I know, there was two guys on the show, and the other one I've seen and know he's a fighter, MMA and stuff. | ||
| I mean, I've seen a lot of his stuff but don't really know much about him because usually, you know, what he's saying, it just gets old. | ||
| It's about Jews all day. | ||
| And I'm just like, oh, more Jewish stuff. | ||
| Let me move on to the next thing. | ||
| And it's just, but I'm supposed to know everything about these people. | ||
| And again, it's not about them. | ||
| I'm not bringing these people up to get to fight with them or anything. | ||
| I'm bringing it up about how crazy this is. | ||
| And I do get Elon's point about... | ||
| Snoopy's itching. | ||
| Is that that is, from my perspective, I'm not saying censorship for it, it is negative when you read something and it's some weird infighting thing and you don't even really know what it is. | ||
| So some shit is going on with people attacking Alex because he's not siding against Elon in this schism that's happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I was thinking about, like, what... | ||
| Is he talking about that MMA fighter guy? | ||
| He's probably that really crazy MMA fighter guy that Alex has had on the show. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I don't know exactly. | ||
| I was like, man, did Rogan turn on him? | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| Can't be. | ||
| No. | ||
| He doesn't care enough. | ||
| But then I remembered there was that weird video about Jamie Raskin. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Did that guy turn on him? | ||
| No. | ||
| The fake guy that might not even be real? | ||
| Greg Reese did. | ||
| Reese turned! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Reese went rogue! | ||
| Reese quit. | ||
| Reese quit! | ||
| Over Alex's vacation, Greg Reese, probably the only person on Alex's band.video site that had any kind of views. | ||
| He would have like a million views sometimes. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| On his pieces that he made. | ||
| Reese's pieces? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He didn't use that name, although we've pitched it multiple times. | ||
| Greg Reese quit. | ||
| He put on Twitter that he quit. | ||
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| And it's very clearly about Alex's support of Elon Musk, and very clearly he thinks Alex is a piece of shit. | ||
| I mean, fair. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fair across the board. | ||
| Fair across the board. | ||
| And I know from watching Greg Reese's stuff in the past that he is very much an anti-Semitic kind of guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has a lot of feelings about Jewish people. | ||
| He does seem to. | ||
| And so I think that some of this, almost all of this, probably is... | ||
| Some kind of defense against something Greg Reese said, or some stream that he could have been on, or even some kind of preemptive damage control about the kind of shit that Greg Reese is going to be able to talk about what kind of fraud Alex is. | ||
| So I think that's really what's going on here. | ||
| There's the general betrayal of Alex siding with Elon Musk over what should be... | ||
| I mean, obvious things to disagree about. | ||
| And then there's the personal side of it, which is Greg Reese left and posted on Twitter about it. | ||
| See, here's the thing about leaving. | ||
| The problem with leaving Infowars on an ideological argument is that it leaves open the question of all the things you didn't leave over. | ||
| Like, what about this one was the straw that broke the camel's back? | ||
| And it seems like it shouldn't be this one that did it. | ||
| No, I actually disagree. | ||
| You think it's this one specifically? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| I mean, I think you could... | ||
| come up with an argument for a lot of things. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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But I think that if you are putting yourself, you know how Alex asked us to look through life through his eyes? | |
| I do believe that. | ||
| I'm looking through life through Greg Reese's eyes. | ||
| And I think that over the course of the time that he's been at Infowars, there's probably a decent way to rationalize all kinds of bullshit about Alex. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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But the idea that they're coming to a fork in the road and he's choosing... | |
| Sort of to keep buddying up with the billionaire who's going against the nativist agenda. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like, I think that that would be a step too far if you're someone like Greg Reese. | ||
| Because this can't be rationalized in terms of, like, Alex is a true believer and all of the stuff that people say about him is just, you know, they just don't understand the concerns that he has. | ||
| Sure, but... | ||
| But then he'd ask the question of like, okay, so you couldn't leave Trump after he moved the embassy to Jerusalem or whatever? | ||
| That's your thing, dude. | ||
| You're that guy. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| These people are wild to me. | ||
| I think, yeah. | ||
| We were younger then, that's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Gregory's left, and the internet doesn't really like the way that Alex is siding with Musk. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| Emergency broadcast. | ||
| Emergency broadcast. | ||
| So he rationalizes a little bit here about why he's getting into the muck with these Nazis who are talking shit about him. | ||
| The Greg Reese Nazis that he hired. | ||
| Just to me, I've seen it so much. | ||
| It's kind of like if I'm walking through the park and I see a big steaming pile of dog shit. | ||
| Greg Reese. | ||
| I just kind of instantly decide not to look at it. | ||
| Hired it. | ||
| And I just look at the sky or something. | ||
| I just kind of go by it. | ||
| Now if it's in my yard, I pick it up. | ||
| And all of that stuff is dog shit to me. | ||
| But then I kind of then think about the dog shit sometimes. | ||
| And I think, you know, could I help that dog shit? | ||
| But see, I know I can't help you. | ||
| Because you're into your superiority, into your weird mind box. | ||
| I'm talking to people who are confused by all this and wonder what it is. | ||
| And I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this. | ||
| I make decisions like this. | ||
| It's healthy to talk about this stuff occasionally. | ||
| And then it'll also stimulate my haters to attack me even more from all sides. | ||
| And that'll give the broadcast a boost, which can always get bigger. | ||
| Not that it needs a boost, but it needs one to beat the globalist. | ||
| And so when I look at something and it's overall positive in my algorithm, in my mind, that iterates so much knowledge. | ||
| Then I decide to go with it. | ||
| Because I want to have a real discussion here and spark a real debate across the political spectrum and throughout the knowledge base. | ||
| And I also want to... | ||
| I'm kind of wargaming here on air today. | ||
| I don't know if Elon's watching or will see any of this. | ||
| I would imagine he would. | ||
| He's very prolific when it comes to that, my information. | ||
| Kind of honing what I think. | ||
| And again, I don't go off what I think off of what you think. | ||
| Though I do get good ideas from people that I see debating and talking about things. | ||
| But what I'm saying is at the end I make my decision. | ||
| I don't come up with my political, cultural, spiritual views off of what I think will be most popular with people. | ||
| I absorb it and think about it and mull it. | ||
| And then kind of just stream of consciousness on air, talk about it for a few days, and then I decide to start boiling down what I think the essence of it is for a boil down. | ||
| And most people know 95% of the time I don't even get into attacks or infighting or any of that stuff. | ||
| Occasionally I do because there's times for it at key points. | ||
| when I think people are really needing the information. | ||
| So this fully describes why Alex doesn't ever talk about us, but will take the time to whine about this shit on his day off. | ||
| Engaging with Nazis about their complaint that Alex isn't Nazi enough is a big win for Alex's attention farming operation. | ||
| The two of them will bounce back and forth and feed off each other's algorithms, and at the end of the day, there really isn't that much of a meaningful disagreement, there's no real risk for Alex's business. | ||
| Everybody wins. | ||
| Everyone who is going to think Alex isn't enough of a Nazi is going to get there eventually. | ||
| Built into the business model. | ||
| He suffers a high turnover rate because people, weirdly, about one-third of the people who gravitate towards his kind of content are Nazi types. | ||
| They will hear the kind of dog whistles they're attracted to in Alex's content and recognize that he's a dude yelling about how proud he is to be white, and they'll like that for a while. | ||
| But eventually, a crisis point will hit, and they'll be forced to recognize that Alex isn't hardcore enough. | ||
| Oftentimes, this will happen because Alex has a guest on his show like David Duke or Nick Fuentes. | ||
| In the contrast between Alex and this more extreme figure the audience will realize that Alex seems to be holding back whereas this staunch racist is speaking freely. | ||
| This is the result of them seeking out that harder stuff and leaving Alex behind. | ||
| But they tend not to turn on Alex and hate him because they understand that they could have never been introduced to David Duke out of the gate and accepted what he's selling. | ||
| They needed the incubation period that Alex provides, and they recognize that Alex serves that purpose for other budding white supremacists. | ||
| It's a tense and uneasy arrangement, but it's one that both sides recognize works to their advantage. | ||
| The white supremacists recruit and illustrate their principles by demanding Alex dropped the act, and Alex gets to have someone to point to and say, they're the real racist, I'm cool, I'm good. | ||
| When they fight, the feedback loop of this interaction plays out. | ||
| Alex will lose some section of the audience to the hardcore shit, but he was going to lose them eventually anyway. | ||
| Plus, he's losing them to a side that plays into his interests. | ||
| Fighting with them allows Alex to sanitize himself to new observers who just see him as the guy who's being attacked by Nazis and assume that he must be okay. | ||
| He ignores us aggressively because engaging with us doesn't serve this same bottom line. | ||
| He and the Nazis are engaged in a mutual dance with each other, whereas we're not playing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I think understanding that from the attention economy side of things and recognizing that he even understands this is why I'm doing this. | ||
| This is why I'm fighting with these Nazis is because it all works to my advantage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like there's a butterfly. | ||
| I think it might be the blue butterfly of somewhere. | ||
| But it's caterpillars, right? | ||
| They go into an ant's farm, like they call them farms on their own. | ||
| They go into an ant's colony, and they give off queen pheromones, and all the ants feed them, and then they cocoon, and then they leave the ants, and then all the ants die because they don't have a queen, etc. | ||
| It feels a lot like that. | ||
| You have to get into your cocoon. | ||
| All of the racists have to bring you fake lies and then eventually you become your own racist butterfly. | ||
| It's something like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I think that it remains to be seen because time is moving forward in a linear fashion. | ||
| But I think that I've made the point that I think that Elon miscalculated a tiny bit in terms of empowering these lunatic voices. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And the same with Trump. | ||
| I think that they have made the fringe a little bit too relevant and given them a little bit of outsized power. | ||
| And I think that Alex in the past has been able to negotiate this dance with the much more fringe extreme aspects of his audience. | ||
| And I don't know if there's a miscalibration here, but I think that he stands to lose more than he thinks out of this dance. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's a dangerous game to whip up the mob to try and exploit for your own advantage, and then you have to tamp down the mob again once it's gone, and mobs are notoriously fickle. | ||
| Yeah, especially when the things you need to do to tamp down that mob are the things you promised you'd fight in the previous thing, so I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, let's get a little bit of a break, a little bit of a refresher here. | ||
| Alex starts talking about his wordsmith abilities. | ||
| Yeah, like so how he was describing how Greg Reese was into his own superiority shortly after describing about how great Western culture is and how superior being white is. | ||
| Well, see, that's a conceptual thing. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Alex, when he gets into his wordsmith territory, it's more like, you know how he came up with Ultra Green? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Sure. | ||
| He didn't even come up with it's freedom of speech, not freedom of reach or whatever. | ||
| No, he didn't come up with it. | ||
| No. | ||
| But he came up with ultra green. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And now it's over. | ||
| My breakdown is on record so they can help people at the time. | ||
| And then as that breakdown ages, we will see if it's wrong or whether it's evergreen or whether it's ultra green. | ||
| And my goal is to have everything I say and do be ultra green, a term I coined a few years ago, meaning it's not perishable information that's wrong. | ||
| And it's not just evergreen, meaning it always has value, but that it's ultra green or infinity green. | ||
| There's another term I thought to call it, but ultra green seems better. | ||
| Infinity green. | ||
| Well, I guess infinity green would be timeless. | ||
| I hate you. | ||
| So much. | ||
| All real truth is timeless. | ||
| So I'm no longer going to call it ultra green. | ||
| It will henceforth, in my mind, be called infinity green. | ||
| Infinity green. | ||
| So, really, that's what this is all about. | ||
| That is what it's all about. | ||
| Is that what this is all about? | ||
| Fuck you, ultra green. | ||
| Is that what this is all about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think, you know, Shakespeare coined a lot of words, and Alex has always reminded me of Shakespeare in many ways. | ||
| So I think, honestly, this is what it's all about. | ||
| You're not wrong. | ||
| Self-indulgently sitting back and just jacking off. | ||
| Infinity green. | ||
| That sounds like I'm the smartest man in the world. | ||
| Infinity green. | ||
| How can I over-exaggerate my importance even further? | ||
| Ultra? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Infinity. | ||
| I exist outside of time. | ||
| I'm so green. | ||
| What a piece of shit. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So Alex is just like, this whole thing is just him being mad that people are criticizing him. | ||
| Yeah, no, obviously. | ||
| So he talks a bit about that, and then I think he's trying to throw Owen under the bus. | ||
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Fair. | |
| I'll be completely honest with you. | ||
| I wasn't on X for the last six years. | ||
| It was a year ago. | ||
| Elon let me back on, which was a smart move for everybody, and it's made it not just me coming on, but everybody came back on. | ||
| And I have an addictive personality. | ||
| Number one and dominant. | ||
| Freedom is popular. | ||
| But I also was on vacation last week, so I was only working a few hours a day. | ||
| I couldn't help it. | ||
| I was working about four hours a day. | ||
| But usually I work 15, 16, 17. And so I heard, Owen lost his blue checkmark to a bunch of other people. | ||
| And then I called. | ||
| They're like, well, we're not sure what's going on yet. | ||
| Owen got his blue checkmark back. | ||
| And then when I got back, I got back Thursday. | ||
| But then I started. | ||
| Seeing stuff like, Alex Jones is defending us when we got taken off X. And I'm like, wait, they're on X. Oh, wait, they're checkmarks. | ||
| And then I would tune in to what they said. | ||
| They're like, that son of a bitch is involved in it. | ||
| He's all fake. | ||
| He's doing it. | ||
| And I'm like, so then I started talking to my crew that was better on X, understanding it. | ||
| And they go, well, a bunch of groups use sponsors that have bots that are hooked into their channel. | ||
| And Elon's, you know, X is saying that that. | ||
| You know, they're taking the checkmark away. | ||
| Then I call Owen. | ||
| He says, well, I'm not 100% sure, but I know a lot of it. | ||
| Let me do more research. | ||
| And then today he says, no, I'm ready to talk about it. | ||
| And so that's the best I can do here is sit there and say, okay, here's Owen. | ||
| He knows more than I do. | ||
| He'll tell you what he thinks is going on. | ||
| Wow, that's interesting. | ||
| That's a humble position for a man like Alex to have. | ||
| I don't want any of this trouble, so let's just see. | ||
| Owen knows more than me. | ||
| Do you know what's fun? | ||
| Okay, here's what I think is fun. | ||
| I think, and I think I truly believe this, you could play that clip throughout any time period in humanity's history to any human being at any point in time and they would say to you, I don't understand those words, but that guy's a loser. | ||
| That is just the loser thing to do. | ||
| I think even before, cavemen were scrawling on walls being like, that guy's a loser. | ||
| And that guy's dodging. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| You can just tell, even if you don't understand any of the concepts or anything, it's just like, well, he knows the tone of someone who's avoiding. | ||
| There are orangutans that are like, well, I don't want to be around this guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So Owen comes in to give his piece, and the consensus seems to be that now they're of the mind that Twitter is a curated site. | |
| Okay. | ||
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And Owen is not really into this. | |
| And so I think Alex was hoping that he would just come on and explain things and be like, well, you know, you've got to consider all the sides of this. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Whereas Owen seems a little bit against it. | ||
| Owen's supposed to be the Robin here, and he... | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It appears now that it's pretty fair to report that Twitter, or formerly Twitter X, is now a curated news site. | ||
| And I don't even think that's speculation. | ||
| Elon Musk has virtually said so now in multiple posts, including the most recent post about deboosting negativity. | ||
| Now, that's obviously open for interpretation, but what it is is it's curation. | ||
| And if you recall, Alex, back... | ||
| Probably around 2017 or 18. Tim Cook, when he met with all the leaders of tech and said the same day they banned me, they made the decision to curate Alex Jones. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So this is the exact same word that we heard used before the mass censorship took place of you. | ||
| And they later admitted that I was the beta test. | ||
| So maybe they were testing the algorithm on you. | ||
| I mean, I'm just speculating. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| Well, I think you're absolutely right, and I think that the reason people are concerned is were they using the H-1B visa debate as kind of a test system to say, okay, can we snuff out people on a certain side of this debate or a certain side of this story? | ||
| Can we use certain keywords that flag accounts that we can basically do what is, I mean, it's virtually censorship. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| When I called you on the phone tag this morning, let's be clear, I had one vacation. | ||
| In the last year plus, about a year ago. | ||
| And so I did go to Big Bend for six days. | ||
| And then I came back for four days. | ||
| And then I did go to Utah. | ||
| My old friend from high school is successful and wealthy and has got a private jet and a cool cabin. | ||
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What? | |
| The fuck? | ||
| And I went with my youngest daughter and folks with them for six days. | ||
| And I did do that. | ||
| So all these people that pissed off that I've not been, you know, sitting there knowing about. | ||
| You know, dozens of accounts or whatever. | ||
| And then I hear lower loomers down and I go, look, she's there. | ||
| And I go, I just kind of moved on from it. | ||
| Then I heard it happen to you and you weren't sure. | ||
| But I just, and I'm not even here defending myself. | ||
| This is just preposterous that I'm somehow involved. | ||
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What? | |
| Okay. | ||
| So we're in war. | ||
| Here's what I like about this. | ||
| Here's what I like about this. | ||
| This, I think, is great, and it's something that we should all learn from, most especially unions. | ||
| Like, if you remember unions, they were doing good. | ||
| And then after they started doing good, eventually, the top... | ||
| from their meetings with rich people being like, he's really not that bad. | ||
| He took me on a private jet. | ||
| Now let's see where unions are. | ||
| It is, you got to not be this guy. | ||
| Don't listen to this guy. | ||
| Owen is the voice of someone who is not close enough to power to be fully intoxicated by it yet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Like Owen has the position that you kind of should have if you're like realizing you've We have put too much of our eggs into this Elon Musk basket, and he's doing the same shit that we complained about big tech doing. | |
| We were there. | ||
| We should have known, we should have seen this coming, or whatever. | ||
| Alex is still refusing to really accept and integrate the position that Owen is coming in with. | ||
| He still wants to desperately hang on. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I think in the negotiations, they're coming from a place of honesty. | ||
| I think we can negotiate with these guys. | ||
| They're genuine people. | ||
| Elon's going to be a good guy. | ||
| He's not going to destroy our union entirely. | ||
| That would be crazy. | ||
| Alex wants just to give the benefit of the doubt. | ||
| It's about what's best for the company. | ||
| And I think that Owen is not quite on that side. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he does something fucking hilarious. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I've got major concerns, and I think Elon needs to explain to people exactly what he means, because, again, for most people who are ignorant, you'd look at Elon Musk's feed and say, that is extremely negative, all the bad stuff he's posing. | ||
| No, that's extremely positive. | ||
| You know, it's like if you've got cockroaches, you learn about it, you get rid of them. | ||
| So what's your view on that? | ||
| Well, unfortunately, I think even if Elon Musk came out and made a statement or something was made transparent in the algorithms, Nobody's really gonna trust it anymore. | ||
| And I think that that's the cat that's now been let out of the bag. | ||
| That's the genie that's now been let out of the bottle in the last week. | ||
| It's now just nobody is gonna trust it. | ||
| And people are looking at it as censorship. | ||
| Now, I think curation is probably the more fair word to use. | ||
| And they're going to make this argument like they do with other big accounts that aren't verified, like Nick Fuentes. | ||
| And they say, oh, look, he can still get millions of views, even though he's not verified and doesn't have premium. | ||
| So censorship doesn't exist. | ||
| Well, that's a little disingenuous. | ||
| But here, Alex, let me give you an example specifically about the new policy when it comes to negativity. | ||
| And this is according to X's own AI system. | ||
| It says things like being critical of FBI statements, challenging official statements from authorities, skepticism about official narratives. | ||
| This is from X's own AI saying this. | ||
| They've also said being affiliated or talking to other accounts, like maybe Alex Jones, could also de-boost you. | ||
| So these are the kinds of things that have people extremely skeptical of what the future of X looks like. | ||
| Well, let's slow down here. | ||
| Let's slow down here, because I didn't know about this. | ||
| You just told me. | ||
| Did you ask Grok this, or is this an official statement? | ||
| X is saying what? | ||
| This is X's AI Grok. | ||
| Yes, Grok. | ||
| Okay, and you ask it what? | ||
| What? | ||
| What are examples of posts that could be considered negative and might limit reach on X? | ||
| Yeah, I would see it. | ||
| I meant to do this when I was on vacation, but I got busy and didn't do it. | ||
| I was sitting there with my buddy, Shane Steiner, and he said, have you seen this? | ||
| He goes, I just asked Grok, and he's a huge Elon Musk fan. | ||
| He said, have you seen this? | ||
| And he put in, show me Americans, and none of them are white. | ||
| And then I actually have the screenshots he sent to me. | ||
| I meant to do a report on it. | ||
| I'll do one soon. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is so dumb. | ||
| I love the idea of Alex being like, you asked the robot. | ||
| You asked the robot. | ||
| This is the robot talking. | ||
| The robot told you that? | ||
| I do find it very fascinating just how much Alex defers to a robot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| The robot said that? | ||
| I can't argue with the robot. | ||
| How can you not argue with the robot? | ||
| Did the robot tell you that? | ||
| It's not real! | ||
| The robot speaks truth. | ||
| The oracle cannot be denied. | ||
| What are posts that could be considered negative? | ||
| A lot of shit that you're really worried about? | ||
| The stuff we do? | ||
| All of it? | ||
| Us entirely? | ||
| So now, I mean, having this... | ||
| The robot said this stuff. | ||
| Having that hat, like... | ||
| This should be a concern for Alex. | ||
| The robot threatened their jobs, literally. | ||
| And is trying to pull off white genocide. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Americans, none of them are white. | ||
| Same at the time. | ||
| Apparently. | ||
| Same at the same time. | ||
| So Alex should probably be really against this now. | ||
| You cannot not understand what you're doing. | ||
| Yeah, but Elon's pretty cool. | ||
| I think the statement Musk needs to make now is what is the real goal here with X? | ||
| What are you really trying to do with this app? | ||
| Because... | ||
| Clearly, this idea that it was going to be the free speech app and it was where anybody could go and report, I mean, those dreams are dead to most people that are following this story. | ||
| That's just the reality of it. | ||
| Well, Owen, I normally agree with you, but I really don't think we want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here just quite yet. | ||
| Let's not throw Elon out with the bathwater. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
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Come on. | |
| You made a pretty compelling case, and I really... | ||
| I have no leg to stand on here, but come on. | ||
| You know, what I think I'm doing is securing my power, but what I'm actually doing is ensuring its decrease. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| And it's such a, like, I don't want to say it's a misunderstanding, but it is. | ||
| Like, of Alex's value. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, what he believes his value to be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, capitulating in this way to power, to a billionaire, to the guy who owns this social media site. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It works directly against what makes him him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's very sad. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| It's very sad to see. | ||
| It is every single moment of Bill Gates, George Soros hate, and all of that stuff, all of it, gone. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Well, it never was there, but it's so transparently not there because of these actions and the way that Alex is carrying himself. | ||
| This is just, it's pathetic. | ||
| Yeah, but Elon's pretty cool. | ||
| I think we need to hear more and see this elaborated, because here's my deal. | ||
| I noticed that when Elon gets attacked, he hits back a lot harder. | ||
| The left really attacked him, came after his family, poison shot hurt his brother and some of his crew. | ||
| They took his son away from him, and they radicalized him for us. | ||
| So I think we're going to catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. | ||
| I am certainly concerned, and I am engaging and watching this. | ||
| You know, I couldn't find the meat and potatoes of, like, the big, solid thing with these other people because it was kind of hard to listen to them. | ||
| And every time I would see what they were saying, what they were attacking me, too, I was just like, what is this? | ||
| It's like, you know, crazy. | ||
| Yeah, there's no there there. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I feel powerful because of my proximity to him. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Stop making it. | ||
| He's not cool. | ||
| He's pretty cool. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
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I... | |
| Listen, I like that we moved on from that 80s jock culture in a dominant fashion, people being bullied all the time, whatever Back to the Future was about. | ||
| Biff. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| I'm glad we've moved on from there. | ||
| We haven't moved on better. | ||
| We haven't moved on better. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| We've just moved on. | ||
| There's something to that. | ||
| But I just think that another thing that's pathetic about Alex here is this like... | ||
| We're going to get more flies with honey than vinegar. | ||
| Don't be mad at Musk. | ||
| He'll hit back really hard. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| He's reactive. | ||
| If you fight too hard, we're going to lose ground. | ||
| When Alex says earlier, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, I heard don't throw Elon out with the bathwater. | ||
| Yep, 100%. | ||
| I didn't realize how much he is conceiving of this guy as a reactive baby. | ||
| He's just going to hit back. | ||
| He's just going to act up more if we're mean. | ||
| Placate him! | ||
| Placate the god of thunder so we don't get... | ||
| We need a good harvest this year! | ||
| Now's not the time! | ||
| And I was thinking to myself, like, this guy's gotta make some money off Twitter, right? | ||
| He's got to. | ||
| But Alex has clearly been like, I don't make anything. | ||
| He has to make some money off Twitter. | ||
| Oh yeah, he makes a whole bunch of money. | ||
| He better make a whole bunch of money. | ||
| I said earlier, and I was thinking about after I went to break, I don't get any money from Elon Musk. | ||
| Well, that's not true. | ||
| We get like $25,000 a month on average. | ||
| And 94% last time I checked it was subscribers. | ||
| So I actually get a couple thousand dollars a month from Elon Musk. | ||
| And I have not done much for the subscribers. | ||
| There's a subscriber function. | ||
| A lot of people are doing it. | ||
| I'm very thankful. | ||
| I see it as a donation. | ||
| I tend to have this thing where I don't usually do subscriber stuff and I'm just all about getting it out to everybody. | ||
| But I really should do stuff for the subscribers. | ||
| And I really should build that out. | ||
| I just already do so much media that I just haven't habituated doing it, and it's one of my major failings. | ||
| Like anything, I'm a hard worker, but doing something new, it's a... | ||
| In fact, I'm going to shoot a subscriber video today. | ||
| I'm going to start doing it every day, because that's money that goes in to help keep us on the air. | ||
| So that's weird. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, $25,000 a month is not nothing. | ||
| It's not nothing. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| It shouldn't be enough to kowtow to Elon Musk for Alex. | ||
| No, and I don't think it is, but I think he likes it. | ||
| I think he does like it. | ||
| I think that there's something very funny about being like, I said I didn't get any money from Elon Musk, but here's a bunch of money, and then I'm going to make more subscriber content. | ||
| Owen, Owen, I get what you're talking about, but don't throw the $25,000 a month out with the bathwater. | ||
| I get your ideological points, but I have a financial incentive. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people in Alex's audience would not take it so trivially, the idea of $25,000 a month. | ||
| Be very important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a big chunk of change. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So anyway... | ||
| There's a bit going on that is leading to this petty emergency broadcast. | ||
| There's obviously the tension that Alex has with part of his base that comes from him siding with Elon as opposed to siding with the people who want to throw all non-white people out of the country. | ||
| Problem. | ||
| So there's that, and then also there's the specificness of the Greg Reese problem. | ||
| There's some other people who Alex probably thought liked him more than they do who talk shit. | ||
| Some of the Nick Fuentes fans. | ||
| Some of those folks. | ||
| And apparently, one of the criticisms that is stuck in Alex's craw that someone has made is that he didn't think those terrorist attacks on New Year's Day were fake enough. | ||
| Look, I'm already one of the biggest media people in the world, despite all the censorship and control. | ||
| So it's this newest attack by talk show hosts of people that think it's going to give them a bigger market share. | ||
| They're jealous. | ||
| They're being paid to do it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| To go, Jones is sold out to Elon. | ||
| Jones is, you know, on the payroll and all this stuff. | ||
| And then they just freak out when anything happens or goes on. | ||
| And, I mean, this week, it was really informative for me to understand how sick people have gotten. | ||
| And I'm sad for them is why I'm talking about it. | ||
| Very well-known people that I've been friends with and liked for decades. | ||
| I'm not going to even give it attention and say their name. | ||
| Just constantly say things about me that aren't true. | ||
| Very insulting. | ||
| Very mean. | ||
| And they said, look, Alex is not saying that the terror attacks or that the attacks in Vegas and New Orleans were inside jobs. | ||
| You know, he's either lying or he's dumb or something like that. | ||
| I'm just saying, I said when I woke up in the morning that I bet it was a false flag. | ||
| And I did like 10 videos that morning and they found one video where I didn't say that. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| The police tip I got. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| No, I've sold out. | ||
| I mean, no, you sold out against the truth. | ||
| You lied. | ||
| You lied. | ||
| Everybody saw you lie. | ||
| Shame on you. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| He's angry. | ||
| I mean, wow. | ||
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I said it was fake for the minute I woke up. | |
| I don't even know. | ||
| I think that there's such an interesting purity test that Alex feels like he's failing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's getting it a little wrong. | ||
| But it is actually probably right within the media spaces that he swims in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he probably is vulnerable to the idea that he didn't say it was fake enough or soon enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's sad. | ||
| That is fucked the fuck up. | ||
| But that's what happens when attention, engagement, and reach are the only currency that you really value. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, you were starving so you allowed them to use your song on a car commercial. | ||
| Now we're in a whole different super sphere of selling out. | ||
| Man, I wish I could sell out the way they used to. | ||
| Now it's fucking... | ||
| Back in the day, selling out meant something. | ||
| It meant... | ||
| It didn't. | ||
| That's the thing that we're finding out now. | ||
| It didn't mean anything. | ||
| Now it means something. | ||
| Selling out now. | ||
| It leaves you like this. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Doing this on your day off. | ||
| Or like, you know, I can't stop thinking about My Favorite Murderer. | ||
| Just the way that they had this whole, like, we're here for women thing going, and now they have this whole, like, we get paid by Amazon to trick you into buying trash. | ||
| Like, it's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, what are you going to do? | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| We got one last clip. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And it's because I turned off the special report because I got tired of him rationalizing, liking Elon Musk. | ||
| It's a lot of that. | ||
| I look at results, and it's important that I not defend myself. | ||
| That doesn't matter. | ||
| It's important I defend the truth. | ||
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And. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| This is troubling, what I'm seeing from X. And it's been hard to believe it's been this good for two and a half years. | ||
| And who knows what pressure is going on behind the scenes. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not defending any of it because I don't know exactly what's happening yet. | ||
| But you better believe that as things get worse, if they do, I will get more intense about covering it as I know more. | ||
| But people lying about me. | ||
| And saying that I'm doing all these things and that I'm this thing, it's not helping your cause of just being drama queens and you're the only good people out there and everybody else is a fraud. | ||
| So it's key to understand that Alex talking like this is him supporting Musk. | ||
| If Jack had posted that he was going to algorithmically downrate negativity, Alex's response wouldn't be, hey, I don't know all the details, but I'm going to err on the side of giving the benefit of the doubt and you all are sowing division by being mean to me. | ||
| The giving the benefit of the doubt is the act of support. | ||
| And it's really pathetic how personally Alex is taking all of this. | ||
| Like, back to back, he's saying, like, oh, you know, you can trust that once I have all the information, I'll be talking more about this. | ||
| Just before this, he was yelling about how people said that he didn't call something a false flag quick enough. | ||
| Like, you don't need to have all the information. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You and your default, the default Alex Jones is reactive. | ||
| It is being like, this is shadow banning and this is intolerance against the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| They're trying to censor. | ||
| And even if you don't like the Nazis, then you still need to support them because of free speech, absolute blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| That's the fact that he's not engaging with this like that. | ||
| The fact that he's acting with kid gloves and being like, we'll see when more details emerge. | ||
| That's support. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| The trade-off for being that guy is everybody thinks you're stupid, but... | ||
| You get to be that guy. | ||
| You don't have to be burdened with people having complicated questions about things. | ||
| You get to go, fuck you. | ||
| We have to do this thing or we don't have to do this thing. | ||
| You don't have to think. | ||
| That's the one benefit. | ||
| It's a pretty big one. | ||
| Yeah, and Alex has enjoyed that bit a lot of the time. | ||
| It got him to where he is today. | ||
| And it's discordant. | ||
| I think that it's very obvious to anyone who takes in a fair amount of his content. | ||
| To see clearly that even though he's trying to play half-measure games, he's trying to equivocate, this is him very deeply supporting Elon Musk and being very unwilling to join in even with Owen's pretty non-impactful criticism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think this is just sad. | ||
| I mean, if we go back... | ||
| And we do The Dark Knight, right? | ||
| And Michael Caine is doing the whole speech about whatever, and he just ends it with, like, some men just watched Alex Jones' entire career. | ||
| I'd be like, yeah, that also works. | ||
| That means exactly the same thing. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I think that Greg Reese leaving and possibly being hostile to Alex is a loss. | ||
| Like, a lot of these other people, like, are not that important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, John Bowne leaving, I think he probably knows where a lot of bodies are buried, because he's been there forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But his quality of work is not good, and he doesn't have much of an audience. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Greg Reese, through those reports, like, he did build up his own thing. | ||
| He developed his own audience that he can take with him somewhat. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There will be people that definitely side with him. | ||
| Even probably more than David Knight Yeah, I don't think David Knight really had his own thing. | ||
| I thought Knight was always a nice smokescreen kind of guy. | ||
| A guy to point to. | ||
| Like your Combs on Hannity and Combs kind of thing. | ||
| But not quite. | ||
| You know what I mean. | ||
| Yeah, he was more of a... | ||
| People have different tastes in the kind of way they want to consume this media. | ||
| And he's more calm and palatable to people who don't want to be screamed at. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| More professorial in his... | ||
| But he had a thing, but it wasn't. | ||
| I don't think it was on the level of, like, people actually like Greg Reese. | ||
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| They're really into him. | ||
| And so I think that this could be pretty bad for Alex in terms of staff. | ||
| Like, he could lose Harrison easily and probably not be as at a disadvantage as Reese. | ||
| I doubt people would notice. | ||
| Someone would. | ||
| Someone would. | ||
| Very, very racist people and me would. | ||
| And you and 16 huge Stormfront moderators would know. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| So anyway, shit's bad. | ||
| 2025's starting off rough for Alex. | ||
| Oh no, it's starting off great, defending your entire existence in order to give it all up to lick the boot of Elon Musk. | ||
| Well, what's really funny is he spent like the last... | ||
| Years with these fake attacks that he's defending himself from of the left, like all the COVID vaccine stuff and Trump's gonna get killed and all of these fake things that he insisted this other force was doing. | ||
| And now you have sort of a chicken's roosting situation. | ||
| You have the inevitable consequence of this alliance between racists and... | ||
| You know. | ||
| And I think that it's funny that it is real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a real danger to him in a way that the COVID vaccine never was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, shadowboxing does technically make you a better shadowboxer. | ||
| Not necessarily a better, what happens if I get punched in the mouth boxer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got some really difficult territory to try and navigate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm excited for him. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| You're already doing a great job. | ||
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I'll tell you what. | |
| Killing it. | ||
| Keep on the path. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I could say anything, be a little more petty. | ||
| Faster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Faster. | ||
| Make it more about yourself. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And sound a little more whiny. | ||
| One note, more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, we'll be back with another episode, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |