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Dec. 30, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#993: December 27, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan try to untie a twisted web Alex has spun about an article he read in the Hill, and view a troubling moment in the Musk-MAGA Alliance.

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alex jones
18:34
d
dan friesen
51:48
j
jordan holmes
20:47
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c
chuck schumer
00:04
j
jake tapper
00:02
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jamie raskin
00:47
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:00
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to another episode.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is it was brought to my attention that the first episode of Celine's Family Adventure came out.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Kudos on YouTube.
Made a delightful anime type of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't even know how to describe it.
dan friesen
Starring my cat and her family of adopted animals.
And this first episode features quokkas.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Which is fun.
It's a nice trip down memory lane of when people from Australia called in and yelled at us about how to pronounce quackas.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
What fun.
unidentified
Listening to some of those, I was like, oh yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, people were really letting us know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
A lot more calls than even that.
Than even we played on the show.
That was a nice memory and such a sweet thing.
So thank you, kudos, for making that and Dan Arkey.
jordan holmes
Kudos and Dan Arkey for scoring it and such.
Just so cool.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
What a delight.
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, I hesitate to let this turn into the puppy update corner.
dan friesen
No, you're a wife guy and a puppy update.
jordan holmes
I'm a wife guy and a pup date.
It's going great!
dan friesen
That's awesome.
jordan holmes
It's going great!
dan friesen
The unity, the harmony is there?
jordan holmes
Everything is great.
Fanny's a little grumpy.
She doesn't like a new edition.
Jake is a little bit scared because he's scared of everything.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But I was expecting full on like, oh, we gotta clean up everybody's pee as they fight over everything.
Everybody's pooping inside now.
There's fights over territory.
Sure.
And who's gonna...
Nope.
dan friesen
No attention fights?
jordan holmes
No!
Everybody's just been cool!
Nobody's peed inside!
It's been amazing!
dan friesen
Wow!
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
I think you should pee inside just out of spite.
jordan holmes
See, the problem is, this is too good.
This is too good.
dan friesen
Something's gonna go real bad.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
This can't be...
dan friesen
They're planning a heist.
jordan holmes
The center does not hold, my friend.
dan friesen
The only reason they would have this kind of good behavior is if they're planning a break.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They've been digging a tunnel outside your house.
jordan holmes
Sunny's too smart to get just stuck in this.
She's gonna lead the troop into Valhalla.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, until then, I'm glad that you have a happy home.
It's going great.
unidentified
That's nice.
Sweet.
jordan holmes
It's awesome.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have...
Not a nice, sweet episode to go over.
jordan holmes
That sounds about right.
dan friesen
We have a December 27th, 2024 episode of Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Post-Christmas.
dan friesen
This is Friday.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Things have...
There's some weird stuff going on in the right-wing world.
You're not online, so you might not know some of this stuff.
jordan holmes
I don't know any of it.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
It's been chaos.
jordan holmes
I'm so happy I'm not online.
dan friesen
Shit is turning bad for Elon Musk fast.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Already?
dan friesen
He has worn out his welcome to a large group.
unidentified
How is that possible?
dan friesen
Well, he's super annoying.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, no.
Yes.
I mean, how is it possible now, but also...
Whatever.
I get it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he sucks!
dan friesen
Nah, according to some.
So we'll talk about what happened on Alex's show, which is only partially related to that.
But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, dedicated to my dog Fern or Fernanda now that we're in Spain and she's living her best life.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, I'd rather give knowledge fight my money than Hasanabi.
He's rich and Jordan's funnier.
Ooh, shots fired.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, Toby and Maxine, you're both globalists, and I will prove your involvement in a certain space laser.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to its pronounced Reiki.
When you read my wonk shout-out, you reminded me of Reich, which is a bit touchy in German.
Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I believe it's pronounced quokka.
Yes.
jordan holmes
I mean, I remember listening to my voice go, I think it's Kuwaka.
And I was like, no, he did not say that.
I was about to call into our own show.
dan friesen
Well, now that you know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's pronounced Kuwaka.
dan friesen
We've been corrected on this.
So we start off the episode here with Alex, and he's got a headline that he is like a dog with a bone.
He's very interested in reporting on this headline.
jordan holmes
Dog bites bone.
alex jones
I have been warning and warning and warning and warning, shooting up the red flags, lighting the watchtowers, and so is my great crew of researchers and journalists and pundits, that the globalists have announced how they will try to either kill Trump, stop him from getting into office, or hand him such disasters.
That he's unable to reverse their planned collapse of civilization for the post-industrial world great reset that we're fighting with the Great Awakening.
And we've talked a lot about the way they're trying to do that.
Escalation of war with Russia and others.
That's the big one, obviously, trying to launch new hysterical psychological warfare pandemics.
Civil unrest.
Billed as a race war to lead into a national emergency.
And more.
And all of those tactics are on the fast track right now.
But yesterday at 8 a.m., The Hill, the main publication in D.C., there in Mordor on the Potomac, Democrat Party lawyers, backed by Jamie Raskin and others, came out and said, well, here's the headline.
Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now.
And I shot a report on this yesterday afternoon, and when I went back and I was sending the article to the crew to print it up for today, I noticed that last night it changed to this headline.
And they even edited the article some.
Congress does not have to accept Trump's electoral votes.
So they're introducing the idea of this, but this caused such a giant backlash and trended number one across the internet that Congress has the power, what, to override the votes of the people?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So much for peaceful transfer of power.
dan friesen
So to be clear, the headline of this article didn't change.
It's still, quote, Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now.
Alex is confused because the headline that generates for the article when you post it on social media is, quote, Congress does not have to accept Trump's electoral votes.
So he's pretending that they've gone and changed the article over some kind of a MAGA backlash.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's saying that he sent it to his people because he probably put it in a Twitter message.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
jordan holmes
And then it changed.
dan friesen
That's what generates for that format, whereas the headline is still exactly the same on the actual article.
In the real world, this is an op-ed that was written by Evan Davis and David Schult on the Hill's Congress blog, which clearly states in bold letters at the top, quote, the views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of the Hill.
The two writers make the argument that Trump has very clearly committed acts that constitute in against the United States and is therefore disqualified from holding office by the 14th amendment.
Sure.
unidentified
However, they also recognize that nullifying Trump's electoral votes and handing Harris the election is obviously not.
Sure.
dan friesen
That still leaves the constitutional question, though.
They think that it really needs to be answered, this question.
And if you read the op-ed, it becomes clear what they think the plan could be.
Quote, Democrats need to take a stand against electoral college votes for a person disqualified by the Constitution from holding office unless and until this disability is removed.
No less is required by their oath to support and defend the Constitution.
The key here is, quote, unless and until this disability is removed.
They believe that Trump is ineligible to be elected based on being an insurrectionist, but that according to the technicalities of the Constitution, if two-thirds of each House of Congress votes for it, this ineligibility, it just disappears.
So this becomes a moot question.
That's something they say in their op-ed, more or less.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if I understand correctly, what they're saying is...
The Constitution says this, but since we can't do it, we should probably amend the Constitution so it doesn't say that, otherwise it looks like we're insane.
dan friesen
No, you don't have to change the Constitution.
The Constitution, as it is written, definitely describes Trump as someone who engaged in insurrection, is therefore uneligible to be president.
jordan holmes
But that is meaningless.
dan friesen
So we can remedy that by saying he's cool.
That's what Congress needs to do.
Because otherwise we have a real serious, open constitutional question here.
jordan holmes
This is amazing.
I like that.
The Constitution is real, bae.
dan friesen
But if we treat it as real, we must go far out of our way to declare him first an insurrectionist and then say it's all right.
jordan holmes
This is pathetic.
dan friesen
More than advocating for Trump's votes to be ignored and Harris be made president, these op-ed writers are saying that the case that Trump is ineligible is not without some merit.
And if we want to just skirt any possible constitutional problems, the House and Senate can just vote to say that Trump is not ineligible.
But unless they do, that's going to remain an open question to some people's minds.
This is a provocatively titled headline for an opinion piece in one of the Hill's blogs, but it's not that big of a deal, and Alex is going to turn it into the biggest fucking deal in the world.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That has strong clickbait for, I suppose, nerds.
dan friesen
Sure.
Well, I mean, you want people to read your blog.
I get it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I understand the motivation to title things like this.
jordan holmes
No, I understand too.
It's just, you know, like, what an amazing thing to think is cool.
dan friesen
Well, I think the sense that you get from reading the op-ed is, like, obviously a, like, hey, Trump is an insurrectionist guy.
He shouldn't be the president.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But that ain't gonna happen.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
So let's resolve this.
jordan holmes
I mean, boy, that's...
I mean, the amount of groveling that you have to do to get there, amazing.
dan friesen
It's a commitment to the system, for sure.
So Alex says that Jamie Raskin is somehow involved with this op-ed, but she is not.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
And then that just expands.
alex jones
So they edited the article and watered it down, but Raskin said in August of this year...
That they were going to launch this plan.
And it just so happens we have the details of the plan.
Not just him saying we've got a plan we're going to launch.
They war-gamed this plan in August four years ago.
He said it in August six, seven months ago this year.
But four years ago they said we have a plan.
And the top's the Democratic Party, the head of the DNC.
They all war-gamed with Obama.
The New York Times wrote about it in August of 2020.
That they would not accept the election of President Trump in 2020.
And how they would have a civil war and secession.
I'm going to show you the quotes.
dan friesen
So Alex is lying about Jamie Raskin, who was demanding that the Supreme Court weigh in on the case that was in front of them about whether or not Colorado could disqualify Trump from the ballot.
Raskin wanted the court to make a ruling on it because if they didn't, then the question would end up falling to Congress during the certification process, and no one wanted that.
The court did make their ruling, so Raskin's hypothetical about Congress having to make decisions about eligibility during certification was resolved.
It's a null...
Right.
The war game that Alex is talking about was done by a group called the Transition Integrity Project, and the title of their document is Preventing a Disrupted Presidential Election in Transition, dated August 3, 2020.
You can easily find the 22-page report from their project if you want to read all the details.
They set up four different scenarios and did scenario exercises on each, looking at the likely events that could play out.
The situations were an ambiguous result in the election, a clear Biden victory, a clear Trump victory, and a narrow Biden victory.
Their goal was stated clearly to quote, examine some of the unknowns.
How far might candidates go in contesting negative election outcomes or disrupting the normal transition process?
How well would American institutions hold up if one or both candidates refused to play by the rules?
They were trying to explore challenging questions, but let's not pretend that this was about creating some master plan.
The participants were split into seven different teams.
Sure.
There was the Trump team, the Biden team, Republican officials, Democratic officials, career federal government employees, the media and the public.
Quote, teams presented with the initial scenario could take any action they wanted.
The chances of success of each team action were determined based on robust argumentation among all teams and the adjudication of a white cell, as well as randomizing factor-based dice rolls.
jordan holmes
Sure.
So who's...
Okay.
dan friesen
There's a dungeon master.
jordan holmes
Essentially we've got a paladin, we've got the bards, we've got the...
dan friesen
The bards are the media.
jordan holmes
The bards are the media, obviously.
Oh my god, alright.
So we're doing that.
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
Trump's the Berserker.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Class.
jordan holmes
I mean, whatever.
dan friesen
So some of the stuff that ended up happening in their D&D session sounded a lot like things that played out in the real world, but a lot of it also doesn't.
Because it's a role-playing game meant to spark insights, most of which could actually just be boiled down to, let's get ready for a messy couple months.
jordan holmes
Probably smart.
dan friesen
Shit's gonna be bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
None of this means anything, and none of it is like the globalists' plan for a civil war.
It's all just a collection of little props that Alex is waving around to present a fake conclusion to people.
It's fascinating.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, I know about, like, you know, I've read a bunch of these...
War games and stuff.
And I've even read a little bit about this one.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But when I was going back over it, I was like, wait a second, dice rolls?
Hold on.
I didn't realize that it went down, it was that.
jordan holmes
You know, there's no better way to simulate the randomness of life than to dip into the true randomness of life.
Everything is a dice roll, my friend.
dan friesen
Right.
So, like, you know, Trump, let's say one of these scenarios, Trump ends up winning the election, right?
And so the Biden team makes a move, and their move is, we're just going to say no.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Roll.
jordan holmes
If you get a critical...
Yeah, yeah.
If you get a natural 20, you become king of America.
unidentified
There's no other explanation.
dan friesen
This is how the globalists plan.
jordan holmes
That's how it works.
Duh!
I mean, we did a little Dungeons& Dragons show for a while.
This is obvious.
That's how I would have played it.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, this becomes like...
This is the whole...
Crux of what Alex wants to talk about.
But unfortunately, the issue of Elon Musk has come.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And Alex cannot ignore it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so what ended up happening is that there was a bit of a fight online about H-1B visas.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And whether or not we should deport all immigrants.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, throw it out there.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's the internet.
Somebody throws out an idea.
Other people...
Workshop it.
dan friesen
It's the marketplace of bad ideas.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And so Elon Musk might have been a little bit too on the side of some migration is good.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, because he's not from here.
dan friesen
And he runs a business.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, that's also helpful.
dan friesen
And this got him in some hot water, and Alex needs to address things.
alex jones
We also have the controversy of these HB1 skilled visas.
And Trump being critical of them, his constituency being critical of them, myself being critical of them, because the program's been massively abused by the Democrats.
And there still is a place for it for truly highly skilled people, but not for the whole BlackRock globalist movement to replace people in Europe and the United States with foreigners that they can fully control so that you don't get any type of...
Worker power within these companies here in the United States.
You've got people they can send back anytime they want.
It really takes a lot of bargaining away from Americans.
And we know American workers have been targeted for annihilation.
dan friesen
Alex loves collective bargaining.
He's a big fan.
jordan holmes
Huge fan.
dan friesen
So at the end of last week, an underlying tension in the right-wing alliance between big tech folks like Elon Musk and the grassroots racists like Laura Loomer came to the surface in a spectacular fashion.
It all started when Musk tweeted some dumb shit about his fake Department of Government deficiency hustle, and Trump's new artificial intelligence advisor, this venture capitalist guy, Sri Ram Krishnan, he replied, quote, anything to remove country caps for green cards slash unlock skilled immigration would be huge.
He wasn't calling for more green cards or unlimited green cards, but for a change to how the system works now with caps on how many applicants can be accepted from a particular country each year.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
However, noted lunatic and former person who handcuffed herself to a door because she got kicked off Twitter, Laura Loomer, misinterpreted Krishnan's tweet and replied, quote, She went on to say, Quote, it was white Europeans who created the American dream.
Don't talk to me as an American citizen about innovation when we actually have running water and indoor plumbing here in America.
jordan holmes
Wow.
That's astonishing on so many levels.
dan friesen
Not really.
I mean, it's Laura Loomer.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
No, I mean, just the fundamental misunderstanding of the everything.
The everything.
dan friesen
Yeah, but this is not even impressive for her.
That's fair.
That's fair.
She's staggeringly dumb and bigot.
jordan holmes
No, she's got a gift.
She's got a gift in a way.
dan friesen
So this was obviously a response that was dripping in racism and xenophobia, and it got the desired response.
Tons of racist attacks focused on the fact that Krishnan was an Indian American and how it's a problem that there are too many folks from India here taking up all the jobs.
jordan holmes
Who's heard that before?
dan friesen
Very quickly, this turned into a debate about H-1B visas, but it was immediately clear that this had stirred up something that's a real problem with the right wing coalition.
Some of the people in it are zealots.
And some of the people are using those zealots to accrue power and those people have lost That'll happen.
So Musk tried to do some damage control, arguing that we need to import high-talent workers to make the American labor pool better.
Vivek tweeted out an insane theory about how stigmatizing Screech on Saved by the Bell has stopped our country's youth from becoming engineers.
jordan holmes
I take back every negative thing I've said.
Appoint that man to whatever he wants now.
dan friesen
So here's part of his post.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, the reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over, quote, Native Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficiency, quote, a lazy and wrong explanation.
We have to confront the truth.
Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long.
At least since the 90s and likely longer.
We've awoken from slumber before and we can do it again.
Trump's election hopefully marks a new golden era in America, but only if our culture fully wakes up.
A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy, excellence over mediocrity, nerdiness over conformity, hard work over laziness.
I think he thought this was supposed to be inspirational, but unfortunately the message that folks like Loomer took away from this is that American culture sucks and we're fundamentally lazy and mediocre.
Or at least that's...
That's what this Indian tech guy was saying.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that's a lot of what he was saying.
A lot of what he was saying was somewhere along the lines of, do you not like the 669 process in China?
What's wrong with six days a week for 12 hours per day for whatever, you know?
Like, why not?
dan friesen
And a lot of it is, like, clearly he's being like, I can't hire you.
Right.
And that, I don't think he meant to come off as insulting to...
The entirety of the base.
jordan holmes
You'd think.
dan friesen
Of MAGA folks, but it was.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was pretty offensive to them.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
So Laura had posted some racist stuff, quite clearly targeting Krishnan.
And in the process, she posted some FTC records that included his personal information.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Her account was locked because she had doxed this guy, which sent her on the warpath.
A bunch of accounts that were associated with her got demonetized or restricted, which led to her being on a Twitter space with a...
Big old group of idiots, including our friend Owen Troyer, complaining about how she did nothing wrong and this was all clear oppression.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
dan friesen
One of the participants in that space was Adrian Dittman, the dude who's famous because he sounds like Elon Musk.
unidentified
Oh my god.
dan friesen
And people like to think that he's secretly Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
In a rambling, mostly unproductive hour or more of back and forth, Loomer and her cohorts vented their frustrations at a guy who sounds like Elon Musk, who argued with them pretty aggressively and clearly thought it was hilarious that they all believe him to be Musk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was embarrassing for everyone involved and for Elon, whether or not that is secretly him or not.
jordan holmes
Definitely true.
dan friesen
If it's him, embarrassing.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
If it's not...
Can't believe he's allowing this charade to go on.
jordan holmes
I mean, ridiculous.
dan friesen
There was a clear division that this issue had opened up, and the back and forth continued on Twitter.
In response to Musk getting some criticism about his support for H-1B visas, Musk said, quote, The reason I'm in America, along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla, and hundreds of other companies that make America strong is because of H-1B.
Take a big step back and fuck yourself in the face.
I will go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly...
This is naturally a Tropic Thunder reference, because Elon's super cool, and it's important to be reminded of that from time to time.
jordan holmes
He's very cool.
He's good at Diablo, I've heard.
dan friesen
Yeah, and funny.
In due time, Trump chimed in that he supports H-1B visas and uses them at his companies, which probably came as a surprise to his fanbase since he ran in 2016 on opposition to them and how he was going to shut it all down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you'd think.
dan friesen
The king had spoken.
And it became clear that he sides with his rich friends.
So this was a bit of a moot point to argue after this point.
Loomer's Twitter account was unlocked and she accepted that she had doxed Krishnan and she apologized.
Most of the internet's burned out on Elon drama so the whole is he Adrian Dittman thing only moved the needle so much.
And MAGA influencers realized that their god king wasn't as into creating a white ethnostate as they might have hoped.
He also really just likes money.
It's unclear how this will all shake out in the big picture, but this episode definitely highlights a tension that's gonna pop up again and again.
With the appeals to fake populism, Trump has created alliances and expectations with some really fucked up people who expect him to follow through on the really fucked up stuff they support.
Meanwhile, Trump has created actual alliances with super rich creeps who have their own agenda, and he's given them power and proximity to power in ways that will run contrary to what these fake populists want.
It has the potential to be lock her up all over again, except that because it served his self-interest at the time, Trump has spent the last eight years building up the people who would be mad at him for not locking her up.
He can't satisfy both the Musk side that wants skilled labor to immigrate to the United States and the Loomer side that wants all non-white people thrown out of the country.
But pandering so much to Laura's side of things, he's really made disappointing racists a problem for the coalition.
It's going to fracture.
And here's the thing where it gets a little tough.
Laura Loomer has the position that Trump had in 2016.
And he's expressing what he has led his followers to believe his position should be.
She's wrong and awful, but it's very difficult to imagine being part of this extremely xenophobic, anti-immigration media space, and then siding with Elon Musk and not recognizing that you're way out of step with who you've pretended to be.
And that's what Alex seems to be trying to do.
Here on this show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's trying to side with Elon and say that there are just some problems with the H-1B visa system that have to be, you know, these problems are exploited.
We need to fix that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's lukewarm bullshit to hear from him.
Alex and Infowars have been clear for the last, like, 30 years on air that they don't believe in H-1B visas, and they think they're an attack on the white middle class.
He's been perfectly clear about this.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's making it obvious what his allegiance is, which is to some form of power.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not that he's not racist enough.
It's that he thinks he can exert...
That racism more fully.
jordan holmes
He can change the things from the inside of the system, man.
It's what you're talking about.
You've got to make compromises.
Listen, I told you that we could get this thing, but you don't want nothing, do you?
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go to him and we're going to get slightly fewer H-1B visas.
Isn't that what you asked for?
I mean, sure, we said that we were going to get rid of all non-white people and it would only be white people here.
But how about if it was like 4% difference?
dan friesen
And don't get me wrong!
I do want to tell me to be white people around.
Trust me!
jordan holmes
Oh, we all do!
dan friesen
I do!
jordan holmes
It's just that's not realistic.
Sure, I've been lying to you for 8 years or 20 years or 30 years or whatever, but now let's get down to brass tacks.
A 4% reduction in immigration is fucking great!
dan friesen
Right.
Well, that may be where the Musk side is more.
I think Alex is in the middle, because I think his heart is with the, I want to kick everyone out.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And his reality and who he actually is is, I love the money and the adjacency to power.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I can probably do more work for the agenda that is white identity, Christian nationalism.
Yeah.
If I'm closer to Musk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's lying to himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, he's like a dark...
A reflection of the idealist who rails against the centrist government and then, once getting a small modicum of power, realizes that perhaps by cooperation they can have more tangible change as opposed to just talking about it all the time.
And then here you go.
dan friesen
Here we are.
It is the story of an idealist becoming a negotiator, except from the side of, like...
A racist zealot becoming a racist negotiator.
jordan holmes
We make peace with our enemies.
We don't make peace with our friends, Dan.
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex, he's on that tip.
He's on the tip of like...
Yeah, come on.
jordan holmes
Come on.
What are we, silly?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Come on.
dan friesen
We said close the borders and kick everybody out, but they didn't.
I mean, come on.
jordan holmes
What, did you take the white and the nation serious in the white nationalist part?
dan friesen
But Harrison, he's on the other side.
He's like, no.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
Stop it all.
Shut down all immigration.
alex jones
We got Harrison Smith coming in here with me later, who you could say is completely on the other side.
He wants nobody allowed in.
Until we've built up America again and stabilized the country and just doesn't trust this HB1 process.
And I agree to that.
I mean, I agree to that to a great extent.
But I also understand the perspective of people like Elon Musk, who's not flip-flopping.
He's always been for bringing in a lot of skilled foreign workers to get the job done.
I mean, he himself is a foreign, highly skilled engineer and brain.
So certainly nothing hypocritical from Elon.
No betrayal from him.
He really helped get Trump elected once the wide-open border shut down, once all these unskilled people and criminals deported.
And that's the leg cutoff that we're bleeding to death from.
And then everybody's talking about a scratch on our cheek that's got a couple drops of blood coming out of it.
So yeah, we need to fix the scratch on the cheek.
But at the same time, there are some skilled workers.
That you can't get enough of here in America.
And I think the whole argument, well, Americans are lazy and dumb, so that's why we've got to bring them from overseas.
Vivek kind of came out and said that, and I don't really agree with the way he put it, very ham-fisted.
And so that's been reflecting on Elon.
I mean, I still really like Vivek a lot, but I thought we almost got kind of a leftist answer from him.
So I think there's a lot more to the story here, so I'll give you my take on that coming up as well.
First, I want to hit the big enchilada in front of us.
Now, when Jamie Raskin, the head of the J6 Fraudulent Committee, came out in August and promoted this of this year, I said, this is serious.
They're going to make this move.
People said, oh, no way.
That's too crazy.
They're not going to not have Congress certify Trump.
dan friesen
Benny Thompson was the head of the J6 committee, not Jamie Raskin.
However, Alex has this prop to wave around about Raskin, and that prop is far more fun to play with when Alex pretends that Raskin was in charge of that committee.
This is all just a sandbox of Alex's imagination.
But you see what happened there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And that is a bus being thrown over.
jordan holmes
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
Loved it.
dan friesen
We gotta maintain that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he said all white people are lazy and racist, but whatever.
That sounds like a leftist to me.
dan friesen
Right, but he's trying to lick a little boot with Musk and then be like, Vivek, you're on your own here.
And you might notice that Alex does know how to say Vivek.
He knows how to pronounce the guy's name.
He said Vivek there, and I think it's somewhat intentional.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there might be a lack of courtesy that he gives towards pronouncing people's names.
When he's not kissing ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does always...
What would I say?
It's cold comfort, but comfort nonetheless whenever you actually see how quickly they're willing to toss each other aside to the wolves.
Where you're like, you guys, I told you this was going to happen.
And they're like...
dan friesen
But we've seen it a hundred times with, you know...
Any number one.
Ron DeSanctimonious.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Remember him?
jordan holmes
Dance with the devil, you might get tossed into the wolves.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But also, this is a completely incoherent position for Alex to have, just on its face.
It makes no sense, based on his worldview.
If I were Harrison Smith, I would call Alex a sellout to his face.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I'd quit, maybe.
jordan holmes
This is absurd.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You can't have these positions.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not a thing you can do.
dan friesen
Nope.
But what you can do is talk about Jamie Raskin.
And how you're mad about things you've imagined about him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And how you read a Hill article that you didn't really read.
jordan holmes
That's way more fun, and it also jangles keys away from the people who can actually make decisions about anything and how they've betrayed you completely.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
This headline goes up 8 a.m. yesterday on the Hill.
It was also pushed by CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post.
Had similar articles, but not with a headline this strong.
So they're making their moves, so they start their propaganda offensive first, 24 days out from the inauguration.
25 yesterday.
Congress has the power to block Trump from taking office, but lawmakers must act now.
Now, last night, this went up at 8 a.m.
Last night, they changed the headline to Congress does not have to accept Trump's electoral vote.
And they actually edited the article, too, so they spun it.
So that shows there's major opposition to, yeah, openly stealing an election after someone's won it.
But that's what NATO just did a month ago in Romania.
They elected a popular anti-globalist that doesn't want war with Russia.
So NATO just said, through your intelligence agency, we null and void your election.
And there's basically a dictatorship now, just like Zelensky canceled elections a year ago and is a dictator.
And has outlawed his political opposition and the Orthodox Church and everything else.
This is a big deal, and I'm going to break this down in detail.
There's been more detail since I shot this report yesterday afternoon, but we did a good job laying it out.
When I say we, I shot a lot of it, but then Rob Du and I worked on the documents, the research, the background, and this is the best analysis of what's currently going on and why this is so serious.
It's about 11 minutes long.
Then I'm going to come back.
And give some more details of this and how we stop this next desperate move by the globalists.
Here it is.
Well, the Democrats were unable to steal the 2024 election, and now, just as Jamie Raskin promised, they are moving to block Congress from certifying the election, claiming Trump was convicted of insurrection, something that never happened.
We're about to lay it out right now.
dan friesen
As we take a look at this, it's important to understand that the only actual thing that's happened here is that there was an op-ed published on the Hill that argues that Trump isn't eligible to be president because he participated in an insurrection and that the Constitution provides a solution to that whereby Congress can vote him eligible.
It's a pointless argument since it's just the op-ed writer's opinion that Trump is ineligible.
That clearly isn't the case.
He won the election.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I mean, the question is asked, was he possessed by the spirit of Jefferson Davis?
If so, does that make him ineligible to become president?
dan friesen
What do you mean by spirit?
jordan holmes
This is a good question.
What's the two-thirds vote on spirits?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
We'll have to call in ghost experts.
jordan holmes
We're going to need an amendment for that.
dan friesen
So, I want to just look at that clip.
Regardless of...
Whatever those op-ed writers, whatever they think.
If you look at that clip, I want to look at the ways that Alex has turned this op-ed into a really big deal.
The first thing he does is he implies that there's a ton of other articles in other unnamed, unspecified outlets that are pushing the same thing with just less blunt headlines.
These articles aren't cited, but it's important to pretend they exist and that they're all written by the same people with the same talking points because that means there's a conspiracy.
In the real world, you have an op-ed that was written in The Hill, but if you pretend there are a ton of identical and parallel articles, now you have a constellation of imaginary data points.
The second thing he does is inform us that the article's been edited due to backlash of how brazen the plot is that they were laying out.
Alex's evidence for this claim is the two different headlines for the article, but that doesn't reflect an edit that The Hill made.
It's just one headline for the article and another that populates in search engines and social media.
Alex works in media.
He doesn't not understand how that works.
He's feigning ignorance because otherwise there wouldn't even be the appearance of evidence for his claim that this article was edited.
And the idea that the article is edited and watered down is important, because if we have that in place, then Alex can claim whatever he wants about the article, and if we say it doesn't match up with the posted version of it, he can just pretend that he's talking about the original, unedited version.
That's a rhetorical sleight of hand trick that he uses a lot, because it frees his imagination to just make up whatever he wants, and then apply the authority of a primary source to it.
The earliest archived version of this article is the same as it appears online now, and there's no revisions noted in the post, so it's up to Alex to point out what's been...
Right.
So now, as a reminder...
In the real world, you just have an op-ed in The Hill.
But through two strategic lies and how Alex is covering the story, you have an unspecified number of media outlets rolling out and pushing the same story, which they went too hard with, so they had to try to cover things up by editing the original article.
Weirdly, they didn't edit all of the other thousands of articles that are out there that Alex is claiming exists, but whatever.
There's a shocking level of coordination and behind-the-scenes plotting that's being imagined into existence by Alex when all there seems to be is kind of a mild op-ed with an attention-grabbing headline.
Alex also has zero idea what happened in the Romanian elections or what the developments have been on that front but I don't want to get lost in those weeds.
I think what's interesting here is the way that Alex is using Yeah, I mean, I guess...
jordan holmes
I guess this is, you know what?
How about this?
I'll write my own little op-ed about this op-ed.
And it'll go something like this.
Because you can't solve the problem, we're just going to pretend it's not a problem.
So you can't write these headlines anymore.
That's the problem, right?
dan friesen
I think that people, we've been saying for a long time, people would be wise to be more careful with headlines.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it's similar to the op-ed.
Right?
It's, uh, look, this is a problem, and they could change it, or we could do something about it, but we're not going to, and they're not going to change, so you can't write those headlines anymore.
dan friesen
I wouldn't.
So, Alex plays his video of Raskin, or his report about Raskin.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so we'll start here, uh, we just listened to this, but let's hear it again, like, as a little bit of, uh, just a reminder.
alex jones
Gotcha.
Well, the Democrats were unable to steal the 2024 election, and now, just as Jamie Raskin promised, they are moving to block Congress from certifying the election, claiming Trump was convicted of insurrection, something that never happened.
We're about to lay it out right now.
dan friesen
In that 17 seconds, Alex says three majorly false things that are structurally essential to his argument.
The first is that the Democrats tried and failed to steal the 2024 election.
That's not something that he's proven.
It's just taken as a tenant of the Trump faith because their media has repeated it enough times and pretended that they've proven it over and over again when they have not.
The second is that Jamie Raskin promised to block the certification of Trump's election victory.
Raskin didn't say that.
It's something that Alex and his media sphere has intentionally taken out of context and just repeated over and over and over.
The third is that this op-ed claims that Trump was convicted of insurrection.
The article makes no such claim.
This is just Alex creating a fake point to try to argue with.
The op-ed argues that, quote, The article argues that the second impeachment of Trump was based on an article of incitement of insurrection, though the vote wasn't there in the Senate to remove Trump from office over it.
The other contested forum that the op-ed cites is the Colorado Supreme Court ruling that, quote, The U.S. Supreme Court did not overturn this ruling when they made their decision.
They just, quote, So they didn't overturn the Colorado Supreme Court's Ruling that Trump had clearly participated in insurrection.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The third forum in question is the January 6th committee.
None of these involve Trump being convicted of insurrection, and the article isn't claiming that he was.
That's Alex creating a straw man.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
You can not be convicted of stealing a car, but...
If you have broken into that car, hotwired it, and then taken it to another location, it could be said that you have stolen that car, regardless of your conviction status.
dan friesen
Yeah, it could.
Especially if you did get, like, in trouble for something else.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There, and then it's described in the court documents how you got there in this stolen car, but maybe it just didn't charge you with it or something.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Look, Alex has created a foundation of these three fake points in order to introduce this video that he claims is the best analysis out there, and it all really just boils down to he saw an op-ed in The Hill.
That's nuts.
He's overdoing it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you could take it down a notch from there.
But at the same time, it is a good point, though.
If you think that they have tried and failed to steal the election, it is not possible to think that they are done.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
Because if you're willing to try and steal the election and you fail...
You're willing to try and continue to steal the election, right?
dan friesen
They're trying to kill Trump with, like, a chemical weapon attack at a fucking speech in Arizona.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so there's always got to be a new way that they're trying to steal the election.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because why would they stop?
dan friesen
Right.
It never ends.
jordan holmes
We couldn't just have won.
Because if we've won, then now we have to do things.
Nobody wants to do that.
No.
dan friesen
So the report goes on.
alex jones
Well, so much for a peaceful transfer of power that the Democrats were making such a big deal about because they thought they'd be able to steal the 2024 election like they were able to do the 2021.
No, Jamie Raskin, who helped head up the fraudulent January 6th committee and a bunch of Democrat Party lawyers have been writing pieces in places like The Hill today and other publications saying Congress Quote, unquote, other publications.
Coming up in the next few weeks for his certification on January 6th to be the 47th president of the United States.
They want to block the popular vote that Trump won and, of course, the Electoral College that he won in a landslide despite the entire establishment coming after him and the American people.
And why this is such a huge concern is They don't have a leg to stand on, but they don't care.
dan friesen
Ooh, that is a concern.
So you can see again there, as you even pointed out, that Alex is continuing to report that there are a ton of articles about this in a bunch of outlets, but there's only this one that he points out.
And he does that because he's a liar.
He does this all the time.
It's how you create this appearance of this broad thing when it's just, I'm mad about this headline and I'm fucking lazy and I'm gonna stick on this.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just...
It is too easy.
It is.
Frankly, there should be some sort of cosmic penalty for doing something this easy.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, I mean, look, if you're talking cosmic penalties, I don't think he's that happy.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
There we go.
dan friesen
So that's something.
So he goes on and he talks about the claims of Trump being convicted of the insurrection.
alex jones
They cite in the Hill article, basically exact stuff that Jamie Raskin, that fraud's been pushing, that three times he was found to have committed an insurrection in the first impeachment.
Well, actually, their, or their first source is one of his impeachments, for insurrection, but he was found not guilty by the Senate.
They didn't have the votes.
Then they mention a judiciary hearing of judges in Colorado when they tried to take Trump off the ballot that was overridden by higher courts, as well as completely unconstitutional.
Trump was not convicted of that.
And then again, they cite the fraudulent January 6th committee that was not voted for by Republicans and was not even legal, and where Jamie Raskin and others produced fake documents, and now they're under criminal investigation for that.
We're about to break it all down right now.
dan friesen
So you can tell here that Alex is just cold reading that article, and he kind of panicked, so he had to find a dismount edit point, which is what you just heard at the end there.
We're breaking it down now.
jordan holmes
We'll get right into it.
dan friesen
It cuts.
It's not the end of this report, but they do a cut there.
jordan holmes
Didn't know what I was about to say.
dan friesen
I have no idea what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Should have prepared.
Guys, my bad.
Actually, not my bad.
Don't care.
Next.
dan friesen
Don't care at all.
jordan holmes
Don't care even a little bit.
dan friesen
So there were two distinct moments where you can tell that Alex is skimming the article to make blustery response videos.
And if you listen to him and have the article in front of you, it becomes super clear.
alex jones
So here was the first one that three times he was found to committed an insurrection in the first impeachment actually there Or their first source is one of his impeachments for insurrection, but he was found not guilty by the Senate The sentence Alex is skimming is the, quote, the first fully contested proceeding was Trump's second impeachment trial.
dan friesen
The words first and second being in there confused him a bit and led to that stumble where you could hear him, uh, what?
So that probably would have been fine, and it doesn't really matter, but then it was followed up almost immediately by this.
alex jones
Then they mention a judiciary hearing of judges in Colorado when they try to take Trump off the ballot.
dan friesen
So Alex calls the Colorado situation a, quote, a judiciary hearing of judges, which makes no sense.
The Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Trump should be disqualified from the ballot, which happened because the judges were all globalists.
The reason Alex phrases this the way he does is because in the Hill article it says, quote, the second contested proceeding was the Colorado five-day judicial due process hearing, where the court found by clear and convincing evidence that President Trump engaged in insurrection, as those terms are used.
in section three.
Alex is skimming this and he gets confused by the quote five day judicial due process hearing thing because he never really cared to understand what that.
case was about, and these details aren't really gelling with what he remembers.
I feel very strongly that these two missteps are fingerprints of Alex's cold reading of an article in order to respond to it, because he does no preparation whatsoever for anything, and he doesn't give a shit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's weird to have these in context with this op-ed.
It's very funny whenever you just kind of step back and you're like, right, the impeachment, I mean, he was never going to be convicted, quote unquote.
Because that's how the process works.
dan friesen
Because there's numbers.
jordan holmes
It's impossible to convict him.
The Denver Supreme Court, it was cute of them to have all of their laws, but it didn't mean anything because the Supreme Court laws don't have any meaning.
It's silly.
It's very silly that everybody's...
I mean, let's have a two-thirds vote where we're like, fine, we'll move on.
dan friesen
I guess.
I think that you have some sort of a hope.
That, hey, you know what?
The numbers in the Senate are absolutely not there because of party loyalties.
People will just never, ever, you know, vote enough.
jordan holmes
The impeachment process is non-existent.
dan friesen
Right.
You like to imagine that that's not the case until you open up the door, you lift the rock, and you see, like, oh, no, it is.
Ah, shit.
Ah, shit.
And then you should have just assumed there were...
You know, a bunch of bugs under that rock.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it seems like we should have gotten there in the past.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a clip of Raskin within this report.
And it's that clip that he's lying about.
It's when Raskin was talking about how the Supreme Court needs to make a ruling.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
alex jones
We're about to break it all down right now.
jamie raskin
What can be put into the Constitution can slip away from you very quickly.
And the greatest example going on right now before our very eyes is Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which they're just disappearing with a magic wand as if it doesn't exist, even though it could not be clearer.
What it's stating.
And so, you know, they want to kick it to Congress.
So it's going to be up to us on January 6, 2025, to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified.
And then we need bodyguards for everybody and civil war conditions, all because the nine justices, not all of them, but these justices who have not many cases to look at every year, not that much work to do, a huge staff, great protection, simply do not...
Is that why?
alex jones
Now, we've seen a lot of fraud and a lot of hoaxes and lies with Democrats, but the idea that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment from the Civil War, that Civil War generals and Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy, couldn't be in government.
It has nothing to do with President Trump, who wasn't ever convicted of insurrection.
And I've already made that point.
But notice what Raskin said.
He said, we implement this amendment and then we go to civil war conditions.
And they had a plan, and we'll show you the articles, back in 2000 that if Trump won, they were going to have Western blue states secede.
And they would have their own inauguration for Joe Biden.
I mean, this is real insurrection.
This is real civil war.
So as usual, what they're blaming Trump and Trump supporters and Republicans for is what they themselves are doing.
And that's what's so dangerous here.
dan friesen
It is very dangerous.
jordan holmes
That does sound dangerous.
dan friesen
That Jamie Raskin clip can only be understood in the context that he was responding to a question.
He was saying that the Supreme Court could not wait to make a decision about the Colorado Supreme Court disqualifying Trump from the ballot.
If they stalled and waited until after the election to hear the case, they were putting Congress in the position on January 6th of having to decide whether or not it was constitutional to allow Trump on the ballot.
The duty of the Supreme Court was to give an answer to that, and if the highest court in Colorado had said that Trump was ineligible to be on the ballot, other states might too, and that could create an environment of complete chaos in terms of trying to certify the election.
If the Supreme Court didn't make a ruling, it could lead to members of Congress having to decide which would spark outrage from the public and possibly civil war conditions.
It's totally clear.
Right.
But...
The Supreme Court did rule in the case.
So Raskin's concerns that he was talking about, it doesn't exist anymore.
He wasn't saying that he wanted to invalidate Trump's electoral votes because it would be fun for him or because that was his plan.
He was saying, hey assholes, make a ruling on this because I think it would be bad if you don't.
You have plenty of time and armed guards.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In that report that Alex is talking about, they don't plan to have the Western states secede if Trump wins, but in the scenario where Trump won the Electoral College but not the popular vote, Biden kind of ends up doing what Trump tried to do in 2020.
He ends up sending alternate slates of electors to the House of Representatives, who side with him and award him the presidency.
Mike Pence and the GOP members of the House recognize Trump as the rightful winner of the election, so there are two presidents as Inauguration Day comes, and it ends by saying, quote, it was unclear what the military would do in this situation.
Which, again, you have to remember, they're role-playing.
jordan holmes
I think we gotta go with Child Pope.
I know it seems, but like, come on, how much worse can it be?
We get a Child Pope.
We dig up some bodies, we put them on trial.
That'd be a delight!
dan friesen
Child Pope, president by night.
It'd be great.
We've got a lot of leadership ideas here.
jordan holmes
I think we've got a lot of good things to do.
dan friesen
So this wasn't like a plan that they had.
And honestly, who knows how much of it ended up playing out the way it did because the person who's playing Biden failed a charisma role.
The report itself says, quote, it is not clear whether the failure to compromise during these scenario exercises should be viewed as predictive of likely future behavior by Trump and his representatives.
Or whether the game structure of the scenario exercises rewarded partisan actions.
We might have just gotten a little into it.
jordan holmes
Hey, hey guys, we had a lot of fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, the guys playing Trump had a few too many drinks.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
This was a bunch of dorks role playing, which I say in the best possible way, it sounds like a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
We've done it too.
dan friesen
But it's also, it becomes really funny when you realize that this passage is in there and Alex just seems to be ignoring it.
In the scenario that most closely mirrored the 2016 election results, e.g.
the Democratic candidate wins the popular vote but loses the Electoral College, Team Biden pushed to overturn certified results in states with Democratic governors and negotiated hard for permanent structural reforms in exchange for recognition of a Trump victory.
To take this more robust action, Team Biden had to deliver a united democratic front, which meant coordinating effectively with state party officials as well as grassroots and activist organizations.
While most participants believed that the Trump campaign has the real-life capacity to mobilize and to a significant extent steer and control the actions of Trump supporters, several participants expressed serious doubt about the ability of the Biden campaign to either mobilize or control left-wing activists.
Even in the grand evil plotting document where the evil globalists lay out all their plans for bringing about a civil war, they're like, Biden doesn't have it.
jordan holmes
Let's be honest, guys.
dan friesen
He's not got it.
jordan holmes
Let's be honest.
Maybe this was our fault from the beginning.
dan friesen
He doesn't have the juice.
jordan holmes
I bet we could retroactively learn something, but I don't think we will.
dan friesen
It is just really funny to see that passage in there.
They're like, these guys, uninspired.
I'm just excited.
jordan holmes
I am just excited for...
Biden 2028, baby.
We're running it back again!
dan friesen
Well, we can't do Carter now, because I just saw right before we got on air that we lost him.
jordan holmes
We lost a real one.
dan friesen
R.I.P.
jordan holmes
R.I.P., Carter.
dan friesen
He's up there in heaven building houses for the poor in heaven.
jordan holmes
You gave it a shot, buddy.
dan friesen
So, Raskin...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's essentially going around bragging to everybody like the Hill.
jordan holmes
It does not sound like that's true, but I will believe you.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's talking about he's just going to block the election.
jordan holmes
Strange.
alex jones
And that's what's so dangerous here, is that they are trying to have the electors not vote for Trump without a conviction, but pretending like in the news, and Raskin's been all over TV for months, as you know, saying this, that he is precluded by law from being the president.
But notice they didn't make a big issue about that actually during the campaign.
They just said they had it ready because they knew the public would get educated once that debate happened.
So they want to sneak attack in and try to confuse people.
But here's the key.
They've been pre-programming that Trump supporters are going to kill minorities.
They need a false flag to legitimize all of this and get this done.
So a lot of people are laughing at this attempt.
It's no laughing matter.
dan friesen
So if you pay attention, you'll notice Alex pulling a familiar trick with saying that Raskin's been all over TV saying their plan is to not certify Trump's election win.
But mysteriously, the only clip he plays is that out-of-context one from a while back, which doesn't say what Alex claims it does.
He's doing the same thing he did with the Hill op-ed, where there's one data point that he shows to the audience while insisting that it's a representative of hundreds of others.
But it's not.
It's just a single stray data point deprived of its proper context that Alex is then using to build a lie.
Raskin actually just did an interview on the long-form show The Takeout on CBS News, and he said, quote, We lost an election in 2024 not by 7 million votes but by 3 million votes, and we accept that.
We've not tried to overthrow the election or the constitutional order.
In fact, on Election Day 2024, Jamie Raskin tweeted, quote, America is having a free and fair election, and Congress will certify the winner.
But Alex apparently has seen him all over TV for months saying the opposite.
And that's weird.
Because that hasn't happened.
jordan holmes
It is weird that that hasn't happened.
dan friesen
Alex is making that up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he's a liar.
jordan holmes
I would say it's weird for him to say that, though.
You know, like, I don't think he should be able to do that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make sense for Raskin to say those words.
Because that suggests he doesn't believe any of the shit he used to say.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, you can't really believe in democracy.
Democratically no longer becoming a...
I mean, I suppose you can.
I suppose if you really want to believe in democracy, you have to believe that people can choose to end democracy.
But you should also tell people that that's...
Well, whatever.
dan friesen
It's up to him.
Look, it's a paradox.
jordan holmes
He lives a strange life.
dan friesen
The ancients tell of riddles.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Which ancients are those again?
dan friesen
All of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a lot.
dan friesen
I don't pretend to understand the mind of a Raskin.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I do understand what Alex is doing with his manipulation and fraud here.
And I think that this is actually kind of an interesting point when he says that Raskin's been all over TV in the last few months.
Because he hasn't.
This is just made up.
But there's two prongs to it.
And one is Alex manipulatively, maliciously lying about this one clip that he's taking out of context.
But there's another part that he probably has seen that clip on a bunch of dipshit social media Twitter accounts.
And maybe there's some part of him that actually thinks that he's seeing Raskin all over TV when it's this one clip from months and months ago.
jordan holmes
It wouldn't surprise me.
I mean, the...
It's time to remove the concept of the echo chamber and turn it into this horrifying groupthink process.
Right.
Yeah, it is a drumbeat into the brains of these people.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think for some people there might be more of the delusion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But for Alex it's both.
There's an element of it that he's deluded by the social media diet that he keeps.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then there's also a part of it that is, make no mistake about it, he knows he's fucking with you and lying.
Yeah.
To advance his own interests.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the self-aware delusions are delusional in a way that mask the delusional delusions.
Because the things he knows he's aware of being delusional about, he is delusional about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So all of this is not really even about this Hill op-ed.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's mostly about just trying to be like, look, false fags come to men.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Someone's going to kill a bunch of minority folk, and I don't want to feel bad about it.
jordan holmes
See, it doesn't make sense to me.
I feel like if they were going to do it, they would just do one of the cases that was technically supposed to be on Trump, and they would just keep doing it, even though he was president, right?
They would be like...
I guess we're going to still do these cases, and then if you fail, you go to jail, and you can still be president, but you're now in jail.
And then there would be the whole attack or whatever.
dan friesen
Well, you know how some of Alex's ideas about religion take the divine away from the divine?
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I think he also takes away the serious from the serious.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
And I think if there was actually a real big organization that really wanted Trump dead, I don't think that there would be failed assassination attempts.
Probably not.
I just don't think it's possible that the Secret Service could have been hit on a plot.
I think he deprives...
jordan holmes
The CIA couldn't kill Castro!
I'm just saying, it's tougher to assassinate somebody than you might think if you're only obsessed with doing it in the same way Wile E. Coyote was.
dan friesen
That's a great point.
But I also think that Castro's in another country.
That's true.
It would be a whole other matter if you were Cuba.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But, hey.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
It's all false flags.
That's all I know.
alex jones
This is completely undemocratic.
It's absolutely un-American.
And it really illustrates how the Democratic Party is not going to accept this election.
And that even once Trump gets in, they've got a plan for civil uprisings that they claim are coming because Trump's going to kill migrants, he's going to kill black people, Raskin, Carville, all of them have said that Trump supporters are going to massacre minorities.
Now, that's coming out of a clear blue sky unless they are planning to stage it or wind up a bunch of crazies to do it, and then that will be the excuse if he actually gets into office to drive him from office using civil war conditions that they've also...
dan friesen
So this is all just laying out the groundwork to call any potential bigot violence a false flag in the future, and I think that Alex is reading the room decently here.
This whole Elon H-1B visa stuff is really gonna piss off the accelerationist racist wing of Trump's base, because Trump is going to side with Elon and money over the racist principles that they hoped that he would...
care more about.
Yeah.
unidentified
It doesn't mean that one of them is going to go out and kill people, but the temperature rises in a situation like this, and I think that Alex knows that there's a lot of utility And trying to make some false flag predictions.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
But then also, the sun rose today, so Alex is predicting a false flag.
jordan holmes
Keeps going.
dan friesen
So maybe there isn't that much meaning to it.
jordan holmes
Probably not as much as you would hope from a false flag prediction.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, the Civil War conditions thing, that wasn't Carville.
That was from the Raskin clip that Alex played earlier.
He doesn't care about specifics that much.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
Cajun style.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that Carville clip that Alex is talking about is pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
It is, yeah.
No, that's got some solid moves.
dan friesen
Trump's going to fucking kill.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's pretty solid.
It's a solid clip.
unidentified
You want swing voters that could be swinging from a rope?
jordan holmes
I mean, hey.
dan friesen
So, why don't you have Alex making these kinds of...
You made this special report, you know?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's very serious.
It's an in-depth analysis.
The best out there of this Hill article.
jordan holmes
Rob Dew's involved.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You're not employed there anymore, though.
jamie raskin
Legally.
jordan holmes
And there isn't a place for him to be working, even if he was.
So let's not even pretend that these...
Robdo doesn't even exist.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But he did a great job on this report.
dan friesen
Robdo exists to my dad.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, you know, they did a great job on this.
And you can really tell by the...
What they tagged on at the end.
It's not even an ad.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's just fun.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
dan friesen
Just throwing in a meme.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
alex jones
That's called a coup hiding in plain view.
Be sure to follow me on X at Real Alex Jones for breaking news and updates because you are the resistance.
unidentified
Talk about the fact that President Trump incited an erection.
His various cases of, you know, he's got inciting charges of inciting an erection.
chuck schumer
Donald John, Donald John Trump incited the erection.
jordan holmes
They didn't like Donald Trump.
jake tapper
They said he participated in an erection.
alex jones
I always call it massive.
Sometimes they say huge.
unidentified
really large.
alex jones
Now, we just laid out the facts there.
dan friesen
Yeah, we just laid out the facts.
jordan holmes
Was that what was just laid out for me?
Were the facts what were just laid out for me, Dan?
dan friesen
There's something really fun about, like, Alex throwing to that video and being like, me and Rob Deuce did some real great work on that.
And then it plays, and he's sitting in the studio, and then there's, like, this erection meme at the end.
And he's like, what the fuck?
How can I look in the mirror?
How can I take myself seriously?
This is my piece of journalism?
jordan holmes
Like, I'm speechless.
dan friesen
Go back and watch, like, Edward R. Murrow.
He does the news.
Good night and good luck also.
unidentified
Boners!
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sometimes you can't do it.
Sometimes you just can't do it.
Sometimes it has to happen.
dan friesen
Can you imagine if there was newsroom footage of some respected journalist talking about Adlai Stevenson's dick and how big it was?
jordan holmes
I mean...
Actually, I can, because LBJ was famous for having a huge dick.
dan friesen
But yeah, that's different.
jordan holmes
Because it was that big.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It was jumbo.
dan friesen
But also, wasn't that something that came out later?
Wasn't that something that came out in papers or something like that?
jordan holmes
Not to people who...
We're around him.
He was very prominent with...
I mean, people didn't...
It was back in the time when you didn't talk about the president constantly talking about how big his dick was.
dan friesen
Yeah, it wasn't something that was on the radio.
unidentified
It wasn't proper.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
We learned about this in memoirs and shit after he was out of office.
jordan holmes
No, there's recordings.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess they weren't released until after he was out of office.
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
The public's not discussing it.
jordan holmes
No, that's definitely true.
dan friesen
It's beneath a newsman.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, I bet the public would have...
I wonder if that would have helped him.
Because clearly, I think people believing that Donald Trump has a huge dick is a bonus for them and for him, I suppose.
I wonder if it would have helped him get...
Maybe he wouldn't have had to drop out.
Maybe he would have been like, you know what?
Guys, I'm running for a second.
I know you have problems.
Jumbo says go!
dan friesen
Let me introduce you to my running mate.
So, there's been some big developments in Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex wants to get to those because he's done a great job with everything else.
jordan holmes
Very serious.
alex jones
So, shifting gears into Ukraine, big developments the last few days.
Putin said, I believe in God and God is on our side.
We cannot be defeated.
Boy, when leaders start talking like that, hmm.
Lavrov, the foreign minister, Russia's patience on using nuclear weapons is not limitless.
And it would not hesitate to defend itself by all means necessary.
dan friesen
So you're saying that Russia is saying we might use nukes and also we are divinely inspired.
This is bad, right?
jordan holmes
Well, you know, it depends.
Okay, so if you're a con, you're thinking this guy, look at all this territory we have.
But if you're, say, not one of those guys and you're from China, you're like, ah, fuck.
dan friesen
I think objectively, if I'm looking at just take all preconceived notions of countries, all that aside, and you just described to me a leader whose God is on my side, I'm waging a war offensively in another territory, and I'm also saying that maybe I'll use a nuke at some point.
I think that is a bad sketch of a leader.
That's a bad character.
But he's someone who Alex really digs.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, you know, a couple thousand years later, he may be called the great.
You know, it doesn't take much.
dan friesen
Your breaking news about the Ukraine war is Putin says he loves God.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's a positive story for Russia in Alex's world.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
So we learn in this next clip that Russia is not a communist country, which, fair enough.
jordan holmes
That's true, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's interesting to hear how Alex does describe them.
jordan holmes
Good.
alex jones
And now Russia has said, we don't want to transgender our kids.
We don't want to eat a bunch of GMO food.
We don't want world government.
We want to have our own culture.
And for that, they're so demonized by the left world.
unidentified
Why?
alex jones
Because for 85 years, Russia was under globalist leftist control and was a testing ground for their evil and a launch base to take over the world for communism.
Now it's orthodox czarist.
It's not communist.
You hear a lot of right-wingers go, you know, they're still communist.
No, no, we're the communist here.
And we're going through the same process Russia's gone through trying to get back control of our country.
Doesn't mean Russia's perfect, doesn't mean we'll be perfect once we get back control either, but the new world order has got to go.
dan friesen
So for Alex to be saying this, the king of freedom, who really hates police states and is an expert on state tyranny.
Doesn't seem to mind religious dictatorships too much.
jordan holmes
Ah, no.
Because it's not really a religious dictatorship, it's anti-communism.
dan friesen
But it's an orthodox czarist state.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
What do you want?
An entrenched group of oligarchs, all wealthy beyond imagine, having some sort of access to a government efficiency office?
dan friesen
Wow.
I mean, if these are the only alternatives, this sucks.
But Alex shouldn't be cool with that.
jordan holmes
No.
No one should be cool with any of it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess that's true.
So, you know what we should be cool with?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
The legacy, the woke legacy.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good legacy.
dan friesen
Of Teddy Roosevelt.
jordan holmes
I like it.
What?
What?
unidentified
Fine.
alex jones
Another thing they do is the American flag and the founding fathers taking down their statues, even Teddy Roosevelt.
It was a huge civil rights guy because he's a white guy.
And so that's where all this is going.
Now, speaking of that, it's a very complex issue.
We'll be covering it all more coming up in the second, third, and fourth hour interspersed with other news today.
But I wanted to hit this right now on this December 27th Friday transmission.
There are these HB1 highly skilled visas.
And there's an example of this before they called it HB1 at the end of World War II.
The U.S. government wanted all the scientists and rocket experts and aerospace experts and experts on the Soviet Union's networks.
And so 20-plus thousand Nazis were brought over to the United States in Operation Paperclip.
Now, I think that's a bad example of what HB-1 became.
But Wernher von Braun that created NASA was one of those Nazis, the head of the Nazi rocket program, space program.
jordan holmes
Silver linings.
alex jones
Weapon program.
Superweapon program, to be technical.
But they called it in German.
Translated.
So...
dan friesen
So, yeah.
I don't know.
Paperclip is not the same thing as H-1B visas, but let's imagine that they are.
Shouldn't they make Alex even more against them?
The Nazis came in after World War II.
They were a big part of the infrastructure of the globalist deep state, according to Alex.
So they wouldn't be here if it wasn't for paperclips.
This makes no sense.
Also, he's like, paperclip's a bad example of H-1B visas, what they became.
But that's before they existed.
What are you talking about, dipshit?
You're lost.
jordan holmes
You know, I think for a lot of people, cause and effect is...
Beyond recognition.
Because there's just too many possible causes for any one effect.
dan friesen
A lot of stuff's complicated.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
Maybe I choose my favorite cause for this effect.
And maybe that's not necessarily the cause, but I like that cause.
And maybe I can argue that it's close enough to the truth that it'll work.
dan friesen
Or it is definitely a contributing cause to the effect.
unidentified
Sure!
jordan holmes
And maybe it's the only one I care about.
The other ones that maybe...
I don't think he's interested in cause and effect.
dan friesen
No, but he is interested in...
Teddy Roosevelt.
Woke Teddy Roosevelt.
jordan holmes
I think we should all be interested in Teddy Roosevelt.
Not necessarily for wokeness, though.
dan friesen
So here's a little snippet from a History Channel piece about old TR.
jordan holmes
Love him.
dan friesen
Quote.
He believed firmly in the existence of a racial hierarchy which shaped his attitudes on race relations, land rights, American imperialism, and the emerging and disturbing science of eugenics.
Roosevelt believed fundamentally that American greatness came from its rule by racially superior white men of European descent.
In 1906, he wrote to a friend on the subject of black people, quote, As a race and in the mass, they are altogether inferior to whites.
Of Native people, he said in 1886, quote, I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth.
This fucking guy, he was big on civil rights!
jordan holmes
He was a huge woke guy.
I mean, you know what?
It is a testament to how quickly instituting national parks will get you a good positive cred over the years.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's fun.
jordan holmes
Hey, what you gonna do?
You know, it sucks, but if you, like, look at America, that's all of our presidents.
dan friesen
Yeah.
One of these articles that I was reading about Teddy Roosevelt, I can't remember what it was in, maybe The Guardian or something, but he was talking to a historian, and they were like, the bad thing about history is that there's no good people in history.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they can't get better.
dan friesen
Some people have done good things, and then there's some bummers that you end up finding out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it is one of those things where you're like, there have been plenty of times people have gone to schools and stuff named after Woodrow Wilson, and then they've looked into him and been like, he did, and said, what?
Can we not have this called?
Nah, we're just going to keep calling it Woodrow Wilson.
Fair enough.
That's it.
The end.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like one of the, you know, universities in Missouri.
Not University of Missouri, but there's like Truman State.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Harry S. Truman.
Drop that bomb, man.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Bad dude.
jordan holmes
Well, we're just going to name it after him anyways.
dan friesen
Truman the Tiger is the mascot of Mizzou.
jordan holmes
Does he have the glasses?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Damn, that would be fantastic.
dan friesen
Honestly.
Rawr!
jordan holmes
I say to thee, rawr!
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex, you know, Elon Musk, he came out and he's like, I do like these immigration.
I like these H-1B visas.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then all the racists are like, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Bad.
dan friesen
All of it's bad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then Alex came to Musk's defense.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he got a little pat on the head.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
And I responded last night to what Elon Musk had said, saying, you know, it's 0.1%.
It is a classic American policy to brain drain the best from across the planet and bring them here.
Musk has always advocated for this policy.
Everyone bitching that Elon Musk has flip-flopped are either ignorant or lying.
Elon, to a great extent, is the poster child for this program working.
And Elon then responded by, here it is right here, saying, saying exactly.
unidentified
Yay!
dan friesen
Elon responded to me!
jordan holmes
Boy.
unidentified
Oof.
jordan holmes
Boy.
dan friesen
It's just a grim picture.
jordan holmes
That is...
That is dark.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
I think it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't, like, the Alex Jones image.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The fake archetype and persona that he has is, like, this real bold truth-teller cutting through the bullshit.
None of this stuff.
I don't care about how famous you are.
I don't care about kissing ass.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Just kind of taking time on the show to read his own tweet that was responding to Elon.
This is not the first time he mentions that Elon approvingly responded.
He's very excited about that.
It's very sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's such an indictment of how fake that character was to begin with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, you should...
Like, I don't care what beliefs you hold or about what reality you have.
If you and the Krasensteins are basically the same, you've got serious problems.
dan friesen
Right.
Unless, if I'm Alex, and I'm like, I don't give a fuck anymore, I'm old, give me 10 million.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he did that, then fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or I don't know what his price would be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
I just found out my wife still listens to My Favorite Murderer.
And I was like, man, I remember listening to it, I don't know, maybe some years ago in the past.
And boy, I listen to it now.
And then I was like, what is going on?
I looked it up.
Amazon spent $100 million on them.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Amazon just bought them.
dan friesen
Wow, good for them.
jordan holmes
I mean, like, that's crazy.
Alex, get bought.
If you're going to sell out, they didn't believe any of the shit that they were peddling.
dan friesen
Well, in terms of the ads and stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So sell out.
Nobody cares.
dan friesen
But I think, for one, I think Alex probably shows that there's a bit more money.
Through those, like, Alex Jones store stuff than we like to imagine.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
But I'm saying, like, I wouldn't care about selling out at a certain point.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Well, we wouldn't sell out, but you wouldn't care if he sold out.
dan friesen
I think almost everybody does.
I like to imagine that I would hold my guns or whatever.
I like to imagine that.
I don't know.
No one's ever come up to me with a briefcase full of money, so I can say that, and it's...
A fine illusion to have.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Not met with Soros.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But, like, even Alex, the great renegade truth-teller guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he got to B-50, he's ridden a hard road.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
If he was just like, give me the payout.
I don't give a fuck.
I think it would make sense, but he's not even getting that payout.
jordan holmes
I was just, so I just read this book.
I wish I remembered the name of it.
But it's about Willie Falcone and the Cuban guys who ran cocaine during the 80s and just took over the whole world.
And all of it, really, like one guy just finally pointed out, like, man, we had enough money in 84. Could have just bounced.
Could have just bounced.
We didn't have to, you know, but you keep trying to expand.
You keep trying to get more money and all that stuff.
And if it was going to be a sellout, I would think, I'm happier.
I'm not going to sell out.
But if you pay me $5 million to go, I'm gone.
You know?
I'm not going to sell shit for you, but I'll go live on an island.
I don't need you.
You know?
I don't need to tell you about a new banking app.
dan friesen
Yeah, and Alex doesn't either.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
If I were him, I would be very angrily tweeting at Elon Musk after he says exactly...
An invoice.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would be saying, like, hey, dipshit, I'm selling out a lot of my credibility for you.
There's a lot of racists who are going to be super mad at me in the future.
I'm carrying a lot of water.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
You're paying by the hour.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's going to be expensive from here on out.
jordan holmes
Or you're paying me for a lump sum and I am faking my own death and you will never see any of us again.
dan friesen
Or I'm going to be a huge problem for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should be, at the very least, you should be trying to extort money out of it at this point, right?
Like, hey, if you don't pay me, I will cause problems for you.
dan friesen
Yes, this is Trump's America.
jordan holmes
You can't be doing it for free.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
That's insane.
It's insane.
dan friesen
So, one of the problems that Alex has, like I said, is, you know, the way that he has, like, he has a delusion, and also is lying to the audience about this information, like, that there's hundreds of articles, and, you know, he is both.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is also racist at heart, and he does want to side with the Laura Loomer types.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
But he also really wants the power and adjacency to power and the theoretical money and all this.
He wants his racist cake.
Right.
And he wants to eat it, too.
jordan holmes
He's a Boromir.
dan friesen
It's very conflicting for him.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
alex jones
That's where Elon stands, and he's kind of the laissez-faire libertarian over here.
He said he used to be a Democrat.
I mean, you know, he's helping us overall now, and that's good.
Then you've got the American firsters, and...
The point is we've got to get Trump in.
We've got to stabilize the economy.
We've got to get energy prices down.
We do want to innovate.
But yeah, all these people that really aren't skilled, highly skilled, super skilled, it's being abused.
The HB1 visa program needs to be massively curtailed, streamlined, and reformed.
So that's where I am on that.
Harris is going to come in and talk more about that.
But here's an example.
Apple settling claims that illegally favored immigrant workers in hiring practices for $25 million.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Yeah.
Are white males targeted?
Are white males bullied in the colleges?
Incredibly bad.
It's worse than...
jordan holmes
Oh, it's so terrible.
alex jones
Even hard to believe until you go to the colleges and see it for yourself.
Is it wrong?
Absolutely.
But is that bleeding over, then, to blame any immigrant?
What are you doing right now?
so I get it.
There's a lot of anti-white stuff.
So whites have circled the wagons and are pissed off and are saying nobody until, you know, all this anti-white crap stops.
I think that's a reasonable thing to say.
Are you racist and said whites are inherently evil and all that stuff.
But that's why I've said, why can you criticize people like Nick Foyntes that become very race based and say it right back to you?
Then you freak out about it.
Well, I mean, he's not saying half of what the ADL and other leftist groups or the Black Lives Matter say.
I mean, they're they're more Nazi sounding than the Nazis were.
So I'm just saying you're the ones that put us in this in this arena left.
dan friesen
So, everyone else is so mean to white people that maybe Nazis are cool and it's a normal response for them to have.
I'm pretty sure the only person who could make that kind of an argument is a Nazi who's really insecure about people calling them names.
This is a rationalization as opposed to...
Anything else?
jordan holmes
That whole thing needs to be shut down.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
All of that.
dan friesen
All that shit is just Alex's white victimhood obsession, but I want to touch on the case that he randomly mentions there, about Apple paying out $25 million because it was found to have favored immigrant workers over the U.S. citizens in terms of certain jobs.
First thing about this...
Alex shouldn't believe that this case should have been able to be brought against Apple, since it was based on federal regulation that bans hiring discrimination based on protected classes, including citizenship status.
If he had his way, these non-citizen workers would essentially be unprotected from any exploitation, not entitled to a settlement from Apple, and also probably violently deported.
Second, this settlement was reached in 2023 under Biden's Department of Justice.
If the whole globalist plan is to bring in masses of immigrants to take away jobs from Americans, then why would the globalist-controlled Democrats DOJ do this?
Why would they do it?
These villains, they really seem to be working against their own plans a whole lot.
Yeah.
Alex wants to have his racist cake and eat it too, and I feel like he's probably about to learn that some of the people he's associated himself with...
I think he might be in for a rude awakening when he sees a bunch of the people that he likes to buddy up with turn on Elon Musk for wanting to bring in foreigners to fill jobs that they think white people should be doing.
I don't think this is a big turning point or anything, but what happened around this issue should be seen by everyone in the larger right-wing media of what's to come.
Their fanbase is made up of two segments.
Soft bigot libertarian types and legit white nationalist types.
And their interests have aligned, for the most part, in ways that they can overlook the things that they actually hate about each other in order to reach their shared goal of getting Trump back into power and trying to overthrow the liberal order of society.
Now that they're back in office and that hurdle has been cleared...
These cracks are going to start to show unless they find a new version of the deep state to unite against and quick.
They need to find some new QAnon thing or whatever.
Or else these kinds of issues where Elon's like, I think we should bring in highly skilled labor.
No!
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
It's going to happen.
jordan holmes
Ultimately, if you're being sold like we're going to change the way things are done...
And then you become the people who win.
You become part of the status quo.
And then it's you and the status quo against the people who want to change.
So it's like, what do you mean?
Now you're siding with fucking whomever you want to say in blankety blank.
Of course you are.
They're the status quo.
They want to maintain their power.
Why would they want to change it now?
If they give you what you want, you won't want them anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Dumb-dumbs?
dan friesen
So we have that Hill article, though, that's been looming in the background.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex wants to talk about that some more.
alex jones
If you just joined us, the Democrats, the party, Jamie Raskin, all of them are officially moving in Congress to block the certification of President Trump as the 47th president on January 6th.
They're writing op-eds everywhere, lying and saying he's convicted of insurrection when he never was.
They are treating you like you have a 70 IQ room temperature.
Amazing.
dan friesen
No additional information has been presented.
The only thing this reporting is based on is the Hill op-ed, and now the story has expanded to being that Democrats in Congress are moving to block the certification of the election.
This is just a lie.
It's absolutely a lie that's grown off this kernel that he started with.
Beyond that, there aren't op-eds everywhere.
There's one.
And it doesn't say that Trump was convicted of insurrection.
If anyone's treating the audience like they're idiots, it's definitely Alex.
And you don't do this kind of thing by accident.
This is conscious fraud or instinctual manipulation and abuse of the audience that he's carrying out.
It's not like, oh, I got this one wrong.
It's impossible that this is wrong.
jordan holmes
No, it's a ventriloquist convincing you to be mad at the puppet.
If I'm holding a puppet and I say, oh, you look stupid, ma 'am, and it comes from the puppet, and the woman was like, I'm gonna kill that puppet!
I'd be like, ha-ha, it was actually I, a human being.
dan friesen
The puppet is Alex as, like, Klaus Schwab, and he's like, you'll eat the bugs.
jordan holmes
They're treating you like you have a 70 IQ.
Well, there's no they.
That means you are treating me like I have a 70. Do you understand how...
dan friesen
It's a bummer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're...
The puppet isn't real.
But who knows?
A lot of people get mad at the puppet.
dan friesen
It's true.
So one thing that is real.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is real.
dan friesen
Well, true.
And also RFK.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's also true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Two things that are real.
dan friesen
This clip gave me whiplash.
alex jones
We're about to hit some really positive news on this front with RFK Jr. set to get confirmed as the head of HHS and really taking action.
And he said Trump has taken the gloves off.
This is a big...
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dan friesen
Oh, that moss is good.
jordan holmes
God damn!
dan friesen
Yeah, that was pretty nuts.
That's old-fashioned.
jordan holmes
I got hit on the side of the head with that.
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's not, you know, I don't know what it is.
I told you that he's looking more somewhat healthy, but also kind of off-putting.
jordan holmes
I think it might be the C-Boss.
dan friesen
Or someone mentioned that he's credited this to not drinking.
And if that's the case, then he was drinking a lot before.
But then this ability to do an ad pivot may be coming back.
Because that's a bus that just hit you.
jordan holmes
Woof!
To the side of the head.
dan friesen
It looked like he was just talking about news.
jordan holmes
Totally did.
dan friesen
It really felt like...
It totally did.
jordan holmes
It's been a long time since he's got me.
It's been a long time.
dan friesen
A nice rug pull.
jordan holmes
Man, that one would hurt.
dan friesen
Maybe CMOS just improves your ability to pull rugs.
jordan holmes
What if...
That's very possible.
Also quite funny.
What if...
And I'm going to throw this out there.
The Last of Us, right?
We're all sitting here like, oh, it's going to be the fungus.
Wrong.
What if it's the moss?
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
The moss gets inside your brain.
It starts doing this stuff.
Now he's looking to get cats to eat them.
I think that's how it works.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's doing something.
jordan holmes
It's not going well.
dan friesen
All I can think about is, I wouldn't mind some moss taking over me.
jordan holmes
What do you see when you see moss taking over you?
dan friesen
Just kind of like having a nice, like you can rub on a rock.
jordan holmes
Like a little grass kind of thing on this side.
Okay, I like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like that.
Not full covering, though.
dan friesen
No.
Okay.
Maybe.
I mean, eventually.
jordan holmes
Okay, eventually you're talking swamp thing.
dan friesen
She a pet.
Okay.
Eventually.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
But then again, I'm a hirsute man.
So, like, I'm already kind of mossy.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
You're just a little, you'd just be turning green, basically.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which I don't mind.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I like nature.
jordan holmes
I think it'd be great.
dan friesen
Anyway, also, I think that Moss is chill, you know?
jordan holmes
Moss does give off a chill vibe.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Seeing as how, two things, it is inanimate, and also cannot move of its own volition.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That ad pivot took it out of me, and I had to go take a walk.
So we're going to check out here, but...
unidentified
That was a good ad pivot.
dan friesen
The situation with Musk is still ongoing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think, I'm really interested to see how it plays out.
Because there is a real potential for a pretty messy break here of two groups.
What do you value more?
This Elon Musk and the sort of bizarre ideas of space fascism and all of the billions of dollars.
And the idea that someone that weird can have power.
Do you value that?
Or your principles of white ethnostates and a lot of those bigotries that really underlie the positions that led you to MAGA and Trump in the first place.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
How is this going to break?
I think Alex is in trouble if this doesn't get resolved.
Because he wants to have feet in both territories.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I suppose the question is whether or not they even think it matters to...
Just cut them loose, if you will.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, do you think Musk and Trump and, I mean, all of these people who are now ready to run roughshod over everything with the Supreme Court behind them, you know, like, cheering them on, like, will it even mean anything for them to continue to, like, giving them the dog whistles or where they just go, like, ah, we really don't care.
There's honestly nothing you can do now.
You know?
dan friesen
Well, I guess, you know, we have to consider that how much of those dog whistles is based on pandering to the bigots and how much is from their own bigotry.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I don't know if you can answer that question because there's a sincereness to some of the stuff that you might think is like jangling keys.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
To play to the racist crowd.
But some of it probably does come from a place of sincerity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Or at the very least a place of calculation.
Like, so long as I don't have skin in the game, oh, I'm very, very racist.
But, I mean, hey, if there's money involved, there's money, money.
You know?
That kind of sincerity of belief.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
But anyway, we'll see what happens with that.
dan friesen
But I'm excited to follow the story and see where Alex lands.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But we'll find out in a later date.
jordan holmes
It will be interesting.
I mean, I think it would be a very interesting turn that I find almost impossible to imagine actually happening.
But what if he did, like, find a backbone?
dan friesen
Alex?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Like, find one out of nowhere.
dan friesen
It's made of moss.
jordan holmes
It's time for us to actually lead our own charge against it.
You know, like, that would be crazy.
dan friesen
We need to wake the fuck up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right.
That's not happening.
unidentified
It's the moss.
dan friesen
This has been a ten-year delusion of Trump shit.
unidentified
It's all moss.
jordan holmes
Fuck.
It's moss all the way down.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we'll find out if he has a spine.
Answer's no.
But we'll be back with another episode.
Until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo, yeah!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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