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Dec. 27, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#992: December 24, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan gather around the fire with a cup of cocoa to enjoy a classic Christmas Eve edition of Alex's show, where he rambles about how his bond with God is sexual and how his dad was a whiz kid.

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alex jones
25:20
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dan friesen
30:13
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jordan holmes
17:57
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naomi seibt
05:29
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight
Dan and George knowledge fight need money Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas stop it Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas it's time to pray Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding us hello Alex I'm a big fan Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Welcome back to Knowledge Right.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
unidentified
Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the Elder of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Jordan!
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Where do you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, we talked about it a little bit before the show.
dan friesen
Sure.
Before we heated the mics up.
jordan holmes
I had the best Christmas of my life.
My wife's moms are beyond generous and amazing with their everything.
With their everything.
But my bright spot has to be that we have a new addition to the family.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
We're getting Sonny.
Sonny's ready to come home.
dan friesen
Sonny came home.
jordan holmes
I'm so excited.
Sonny is coming home.
dan friesen
You gotta play that song when Sonny walks in the door.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll be great.
dan friesen
Sonny came home.
jordan holmes
We're gonna...
dan friesen
Sean Colvin?
jordan holmes
We're going to have three pups.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Three dogs!
dan friesen
And they all look the same, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're all Westies.
They're all Westies.
It's, you know, it is what it is.
dan friesen
I think if I were to ever visit, there would be certain points where I wouldn't be able to tell there's a third dog around.
Because one of them might be in the other room, and I just see two, and I just assume they're Jake and Fanny.
jordan holmes
It's possible, but I'll tell you what.
You can't mistake the beauty and brightness of Sunny.
dan friesen
That's very sweet.
jordan holmes
The name is...
Perfect.
She is just...
She overcame liver problems.
People were like...
unidentified
Is she a boozer?
jordan holmes
She's gonna die.
She's too young to...
I've never seen dogs at 90% chance and all that stuff.
And it's like, ah, she made it through and she's still got a great attitude.
Love her to death.
dan friesen
Wonderful.
I can't wait to meet her.
Congratulations on your family.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
That is lovely.
jordan holmes
It is really beautiful.
How about you?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I had a good Christmas too.
Yeah.
So, Jordan, today...
You know what, dude?
You know what's a great bright spot?
What?
We're going to get a new year soon.
It's 2024 one.
I've had enough of it.
jordan holmes
It'll be good to put it behind us.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I want to see that five on the calendar.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what.
dan friesen
It's just around the corner.
jordan holmes
I think Cat Williams was wrong.
dan friesen
Let's put it that way.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think you go back, you listen to that episode of him on the Shannon Sharpe Show.
There are several things that you knew he was wrong about because they are physically impossible to have achieved or to achieve later.
But I don't think that this was the year of truth-telling that he foresaw.
dan friesen
No.
Some truths have been said.
jordan holmes
There have been some truths, but not as many as we should have maybe confronted.
dan friesen
Let's get that next year coming in so I can get annoyed by that one and look forward to the six.
jordan holmes
We need to get a new cat interview.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and we're going to be talking about Christmas Eve.
Oh, he did do a show on the 24th.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
There's no hatchets or anything.
jordan holmes
Eh, that's disappointing.
dan friesen
It's still a Christmas Eve broadcast.
Sure.
So I was going to try and rewrite Twas the Night Before the Holiday because we're woke around here.
jordan holmes
We're woke as shit.
dan friesen
Not a creature in occupied Texas was stirring, not even a mouse.
I gave up on it.
Good call.
We're going to talk about the 24th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walls.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, thank you for helping a pattern seeker like me try to make sense out of all the nonsense.
Thank you for being out there.
You literally make things easier to bear.
Here's a word from the Jewish space laser swinging Kabbalah for you.
If I am I because you are you and you are you because I am I, then I am not and you are not.
I am I not I and you are not you.
But if I am I because I am I and you...
You are you because you are you.
Then I am I and you are you.
Now chew on this.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, to my good friend John from CAT.
He turned me on to y 'all back in 2021.
Been a fan listener ever since.
Thank you so much.
You're not a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Alex Jones for press secretary.
Only press secretary with the potential to increase the deficit.
Thank you so much.
You're not a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
More like a bench press secretary.
jordan holmes
Nice!
Boom!
dan friesen
This is strong.
jordan holmes
Boom!
dan friesen
We also got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Seamus Okulahan for God Emperor 2028.
Long live his wormliness!
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So we start off our Christmas Eve adventure.
Alex is in studio.
And I should say, I think he's been looking better lately.
I don't know what it is.
Sure.
He's either...
jordan holmes
You have floated a theory to me.
dan friesen
Well, I have a number of theories, and none of them I would stand behind.
Okay.
Some of them involve Ozempic.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's sick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or...
He's been working out quite a bit.
Sure.
Something, but he looks very different.
jordan holmes
Whatever he's doing to deal with what's going on right now is making him look better, but I don't think in a healthy way.
dan friesen
Yeah, he looks better suspiciously.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that him being out of studio for a bit really drove that home.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, you're seeing him back at the desk.
Sure.
And, I don't know.
But one thing that is the same.
Yeah.
No matter...
How long he's been gone is that most of his show is going to be about killing time.
And so that's what we start with.
alex jones
And anti-globalist pro-liberty groups are winning and surging everywhere.
The establishment corporate media run by the big think tanks and intelligence agencies are in total conniption fits and are generating and creating and exacerbating crises and attempt...
To bring humanity to our knees, but the vast majority of people are awake and not going along with it, and many of the minions are starting to wake up very, very quickly.
But that great news is extremely paradoxical because the bad guys are not going to give up.
jordan holmes
That's not a paradox.
alex jones
They're launching all of their virus hysteria and fear-mongering.
They are...
Using anthropologists and sociologists to create as much cultural division, depending on the divisions in the area that they're dividing and conquering or attempting to.
They are trying to escalate and exacerbate military conflicts.
They are waging war with their private central banks against any independent local business or farming infrastructure.
But every day that passes, Exponentially, they are losing ground.
The tide has violently, and I mean that as if waves crashing into the shore turned against them.
They are being thrown against the rocks.
They are having their political bones and backs and skulls shattered and smashed into bloody pulp.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
In the information war.
Because we have the white, hot, flaming sword of victorious truth.
And all they have is their fountains of vomitous lies.
dan friesen
I don't know if this is a white-hot font of truth, but, I mean, this show is such protracted, long, we're winning, but also they're scary and they're losing, but blood and skulls upon the rocks, we're strong, we're also weak, be scared, but we're so strong.
It's just annoying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's quite a paradox to say a lot of nothing.
dan friesen
You can weave some paradoxes in there if you like.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
I think so.
Yeah, that's very possible.
No, it's definitely not a paradox for somebody to be in conflict, win a battle, and then still be in conflict.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
No, it's not paradoxical.
jordan holmes
No, it's just, I mean, it's kind of the way of conflict, really.
dan friesen
Yeah, there are very few things in life that are, like, absolute ends of conflict.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
End of, like, complete resolution.
Or at least ones that end up in violence.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Don't usually end up leading to, like, full line.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what, that Treaty of Versailles was shit.
dan friesen
I think you and Alex could talk a long time about that.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Slightly different takes.
So I think that most of this show, like I said, a lot of it is killing time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's tough to come back to.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
We had a little Rob Schneider break.
We had a little Tucker.
And then coming back to, like, make the most of your time, my friend.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's Christmas Eve!
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
And that's why they've been racing to get their Global Cashless Society on.
And to cut off the resources so that you're so desperate, you will accept a global social credit score and a universal basic income.
With the AI carbon tax regimen tracking, controlling, and manipulating, and penalizing and rewarding, when you're a good slave, everything you do.
But by increments always taking more, more, more.
And the people that go along with it will think they're smart because they're doing better than others.
Who aren't submitting, but in the end, we all end up being complete slaves with no free will.
That is the endgame of the enemy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
All right.
Senator Paul is not just doing referrals, as he's done twice before, calling for criminal investigations and saying it's clear that Fauci's committed crimes.
He's saying, damn it, I want him arrested now, cut and dry, illegal, get a function, all the documents, all the admissions, all the witnesses.
dan friesen
This is a fun headline for Alex because he doesn't actually have anything to report, but he still needs to make this feel like there's been an escalation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in the past, Rand Paul has whined about how Fauci should be arrested.
Now he's saying it with gusto.
alex jones
Damn it!
dan friesen
I want his badge!
jordan holmes
Got him!
dan friesen
This is kind of what Rand Paul does now.
He gets into little fights with Fauci and hearings, and then clips of that make the rounds and excite the social media base.
Nothing's achieved by it, no greater truth is found, and it's kind of just boiled down the process of government to the level of Twitch debates.
So that's where we're at now with folks like Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Trying to get cool zingers for Alex to announce his huge victories.
jordan holmes
I will say...
There is a...
And I'm going to...
I'm going to say that it's perverse, but I don't know if I mean it.
I kind of want to see Rand Paul try and arrest Fauci.
I just think that'd be funny.
Like, him making Fauci do a perp walk?
Really?
We'd watch on TV.
CNN is like, Fauci's been taken into custody.
He's got the code over his head like a mob boss.
dan friesen
Citizens arrest.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Do it, Rand.
unidentified
That's what I want.
jordan holmes
That's what I want.
dan friesen
Come on.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this next clip I mostly kept in because it's as close to Christmassy as we're going to get.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
He was behind HIV, behind it all.
dan friesen
I'm talking about Fauci.
alex jones
Evil gremlin.
That is a true Rumpelstiltskin.
That is a true evil elf.
Not the type that brings presents down the chimney, but brings you bioweapons and deadly shots that turn off your immune system and are filled with cancer viruses.
That is a man that would make Joseph Mengele, the Nazi angel of death, blush.
If you graded evil by its height, Fauci is a trillion feet tall and is evil.
Joseph Mengele was only a thousand feet tall.
dan friesen
If you grade them by height.
jordan holmes
I like this.
I like this new form of, I guess, bar graph-based morality.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
dan friesen
So you got some elves in there.
That's as Christmassy as this gets.
Although Alex is broadcasting with a fire on the big screen behind him, so there's that.
That feels a little holiday-ish.
jordan holmes
I don't think Horseman of Pestilence on a Shelf has the exact same ring as Elf on a Shelf, but maybe more accurate in Alex's version.
dan friesen
I think that you have a product on your hands that could work, but the problem is the rhyme.
The Elf on a Shelf really is just the rhyme.
jordan holmes
It is a very strong rhyme, though.
dan friesen
There's a lot of variations you can make on it.
jordan holmes
Horseman of Pestilence on the microphone.
Nope, still doesn't work.
dan friesen
So Fauci is hot in Alex's mind.
So he talks a bit about it.
alex jones
We also have Rand Paul's Festivus report exposes Fauci's NIH wasting taxpayer money on barbaric cat experiments, electroshock and brain mutilation.
And you ask, why do they do that?
It's about training the medical workers, the technicians to do barbarous things.
And I learned that from family that was working in those areas and decided to get out of it.
And they later asked, why do we do this?
And they said, well, it's a test to see what you'll do.
No kidding.
Oh, remove these beagles' larynxes and then tie them down and put a bag over their head with flesh-eating Flies that lay maggots in their flesh.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
That's what Fauci funds, one of thousands of things.
You say, well, why?
Because they want to see if people will do that.
It's like the Mexican mafia or the Italian mafia or any other mafia.
Okay, well, you want to be a real member?
You got to work for us a few years, robbing places, carrying packages, being a pimp, whatever.
Now we want this business owner killed.
dan friesen
Okay, this is interesting.
jordan holmes
Carrying packages seems like lower on the bar graph scale.
dan friesen
Deliveries must be made.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, no, I get it.
dan friesen
So I just want to say this before we get into anything.
If you're a person who has misgivings about the very idea of testing things on animals, you have a respectable position, and that's not the conversation I'm going to get into here.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It very well may be that we're wrong as a society to run tests on animals, but that discussion is separate from the one that Alex is trying to evoke here, where scientists...
It's like Fauci just do evil experiments to see if people will do them, like some kind of a weird gang initiation process.
I know that's how things work in the comic books Alex has studied, but this is very dumb.
So those Beagle studies that Alex is talking about, the removing of the larynx, that happens in some lab settings with dogs that are there, which I think we can all say is...
Pretty fucked up, but also it is partially for their own safety as well.
If there's a bunch of dogs that are all around each other barking, it's dangerous for themselves and for the people there.
But the ones that he's specifically talking about, the bag and the flies and stuff, that has to do with the 2021 expose put out by the White Coat Waste Project, a group that opposes animal testing but is also a bit on the irresponsible side with the way their messaging ends up getting packaged.
For instance, some of their work was used to give credibility to the panic from last year about an Ebola outbreak happening in Colorado because they had highlighted a lab that works with bats in the vicinity of the place where the healthcare workers were getting an Ebola vaccine.
Right.
unidentified
I may find some underlying agreement with them about the mistreatment of animals, but I also really...
dan friesen
Only see their name come up when it's in relation to dumb, fraudulent right-wing meme campaigns that aren't fundamentally about the treatment of these animals.
The lab bat hysteria wasn't about the treatment of those bats.
It was about stoking fears of a possible Ebola outbreak.
And the hysteria around these beagles isn't about the dogs themselves.
It's about attacking Fauci because of COVID.
It's pretty clear.
It's not about the dog.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So there were two studies involving beagles in Tunisia, one of which the NIAID sent funding and the other which they did not.
The one they did not was accidentally credited as having received NIAID funding because they were both around the issue of leishmaniasis, a parasite mostly spread by sandfly bites.
According to the World Health Organization, there are about a million new cases of it every year, and it's a condition that has outbreak potential.
There are some good treatments for moniasis, but the preventative measure is something researchers are obviously looking for, including a vaccine or a way to address animal reservoir populations.
In the case of Tunisia, one of these reservoir populations was dogs.
The study that the NIAID was involved with was a test of a potential vaccine on dogs who would get the shot and then be let roam in high sandfly areas.
The one that they weren't involved in was the one that caused the most uproar because...
It involved the images of dogs with their heads in mesh enclosures.
That was not just a pure exercise in barbarism, though.
It was studying if sand flies were more drawn to dogs that were infected already or not.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
There's a scientific reason to do these studies as much as they may be off-putting.
And the way that Alex engages with this is fucking childish.
But, that being said...
I'm not trying to say that concern about animal testing is off base or wrong.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
I mean, here's what I'd say about this.
If we follow my core, like, I...
Don't remove the choice of something that has sapience or whatever you like.
If we follow that to its logical conclusion, I'm moving in with the Sentinelese people, an uncontacted tribe.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
At the very least, you can't eat meat, for sure.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
I'm going down a route that ultimately leads to me not really participating in all of current society.
So, if you want to...
I mean, I can't do that because they murder everybody that comes near them.
But also, I don't think I'm not attracted to it a little bit.
What are you going to say?
dan friesen
Sure.
And I think that it doesn't justify testing on animals, but a lot of medical breakthroughs that have allowed your pets to survive probably involve some things that you're not happy about.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I do like the idea.
Here's what I imagine.
Sure, you want to work for the NIH?
This was a great, great interview.
I think we want to offer you a job.
We've just got one last question.
What is best in life?
dan friesen
I think your resume is great, but there's one thing that's missing on it.
Kick that dog.
Gotta fill in that space on your resume.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
What?
So, Alex is off on this weird tangent about how all of these medical tests and studies are really just about trying to get people to do really weird things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And this leads him to talking about his dad's history.
We get a fourth version of his dad's magic history.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
It's like the Mexican Mafia or the Italian Mafia or any other Mafia.
Okay, well, you want to be a real member?
You got to work for us a few years, robbing places, carrying packages, being a pimp, whatever.
But now we want this business owner killed because he won't pay us protection money.
And some of these gangs want to really be barbarous.
You know, while you're at it, go ahead and kill his family.
The Italians don't really, or didn't used to do that, or other classical Irish mafia, you name it.
But the Latin American gangs, others, it's a...
It's a thing.
See if you'll do that because then they got all the dirt on you and everything else.
They want to see who you really are.
So we want you to kill this guy.
And by the way, we want you to put a car bomb on his SUV.
We want you to wait till he's going to church with his family.
He goes to church about 9 a.m. every Sunday.
We want you to blow his SUV up with his wife and kids in on the turnpike.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
By then, in a criminal organization, if you don't say yes, they kill you.
jordan holmes
That does make sense.
alex jones
They vet people.
And that's how this is done.
And I was told that when I was seven years old by my dad.
Because, again, he won a Texas competitions and stuff in science, and his mom was a principal and school teacher and stuff.
She got him involved in all the different things, and they said, oh, there's a thing, you know, Eisenhower's program, he was already out, but it was the program he started, the WizKid thing, and told the story before, but it's important, and you can look up the WizKid thing that continued by Kennedy, and that's what my dad was involved in by then, and they said, well, you're joining this thing, it's by the National Institutes of Science and all of it, and your first job when you're 15 is, we're going to sit you down to...
Houston.
At MD Anderson Cancer Research Facility.
And I'm sitting there seven, eight years old.
My dad's explaining this to me.
And he went back to me after about a year of that and said, I'd like to be transferred.
I don't like this part of NASA.
Of course, it wasn't NASA.
And I was Department of Defense doing that.
And so, and then he wouldn't tell me the other things, other little things he did.
dan friesen
All right, man.
Whatever.
This is nonsensical.
As a...
Where does this fit in with the time...
Erwin Speer, right?
The professor at UT was supposed to have indoctrinated him into the globalist program.
Didn't his dad work at an underground base for a number of years?
What are you talking about?
The WizKids wasn't a program like this.
The WizKids was a group that...
It was a name that was given to a bunch of Robert McNamara's associates when he was in the Department of Defense.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And it was like Rand Corporation people.
jordan holmes
It was not the gifted program at your school.
dan friesen
It wasn't the last Starfighter.
jordan holmes
You know what I just realized?
My grandfather would have been a principal and a superintendent at the same time as Alex's grandmother.
It's entirely possible that if principals were solidly in the realm of, we gotta recruit people through the people who have paddles that have holes in them.
dan friesen
See, Alex is a dum-dum.
And that's why his brain is like, his dad was a principal, so he plugged into stuff.
jordan holmes
It goes all the way to the top.
dan friesen
He thinks that's impressive.
As opposed to, I don't know, people who have...
jordan holmes
Another job!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a job.
It's an administrative job that is thankless and does not involve connections to the DOD.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's only enough power within principalling to abuse teachers and students, not go any higher up into the DOD.
dan friesen
Alex's story with his dad is murky.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We have gotten too many different versions of it, and I would love just a laying out of what the fuck are you talking about?
He doesn't even have to break confidentiality or anything.
He's already said all of these things that are seemingly contradictory.
jordan holmes
You know, you don't have to tell Batman's origin story for every reboot.
We all know it.
Just bang out a new story.
Just go to...
Hey, here's what Batman was doing from, you know...
31 to 34, he's fighting this guy.
You know, we don't need a...
Yeah, his parents get murdered and all, you know.
I feel like we're getting a lot of origin stories here that maybe we don't need.
dan friesen
Well, here's something that I think is, you know, with Batman, with all the origin stories, there are some things that are, like, consistent throughout.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Like his parents get killed outside of the theater.
jordan holmes
Set in stone.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
And I think that with Alex, there are the same.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is that his dad said something weird to him at the dinner table when he was seven.
unidentified
100%.
dan friesen
Yes.
That is the consistent through line.
We're just getting slightly different interpretations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's entirely possible that all of his dad's origin stories Yeah, I'm just a dentist, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway...
Alex reflects on the Eisenhower farewell speech.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
And Eisenhower, when he left office in early 61, gave his farewell address and warned of the scientific technological elite controlling 90% of the funding and policies and not even following his own directives.
And how they were in control of the military-industrial complex.
But everybody always hears about him saying, beware the military-industrial complex.
But in the full 21-minute speech, he defines it as controlled by a technological elite of technocrats who were forming a coup against America and freedom.
So in the speech, he warns about Russia and communism.
But he goes on to say, he pulled the transcript up, an equal threat.
Is our own scientific technological elite who are in control of science and technology and the universities and the research and the government agencies and the military.
So you've got to beware the military-industrial complex.
It's on YouTube.
Eisenhower's farewell address is 21 minutes long.
Memory serves.
Guys, pull up.
Eisenhower's full farewell address on YouTube.
Type in Eisenhower's full farewell address from the White House.
We probably just played again today.
So, yeah, there it is.
How long is it?
My memory says 21 minutes.
How long is it?
16. I must have seen a version that added some more stuff.
jordan holmes
Shut the fuck up!
Say 16 is fine!
alex jones
That's what we're talking about.
dan friesen
That's what we're talking about.
jordan holmes
16 is fine!
I'm not even...
21-16?
I'm fine with that.
Misremembering five minutes?
You don't need to justify a different, you know?
dan friesen
No, but this is...
The reason that I played that clip is because of the...
Card trick that he's trying to pull off.
The 21 minutes, let's see if my memory serves.
He wanted it to come back as 21, and then that would be served as validation of all of his interpretations of the Eisenhower farewell speech.
jordan holmes
Definitely true.
dan friesen
It would be like, look how great my memory is.
I do know everything, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But instead, it came back five minutes short.
So I must have seen a version with some other stuff added.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
I'm still right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But just not this time.
dan friesen
No, you saw a bad version.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
You saw a version with five minutes of bullshit added.
Maybe your interpretations can't be trusted.
jordan holmes
Maybe there's a commentary track that you were listening to that went along with it and that had interspaces of people going, this is what he actually said, and then maybe you cared more about those people than you did the speech.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe you had a bunch of five minutes of JBS people saying he's a commie or some shit.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Who knows?
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest coming up on this episode.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That was interesting.
I hadn't seen her come around before.
alex jones
Coming up!
At the bottom of the next hour, Naomi Zeidt, a great citizen journalist out of Germany that Elon Musk reposts every couple days.
She gets hundreds of millions of views a week.
She's very eloquent.
I've been watching her for about a year, and she's going to be in studio with us next week.
She's going to be joining us remotely.
I think she's in Kentucky right now, traveling the United States.
And, boy, the national government of Germany's been demonizing her.
She's a German citizen.
How dare her criticize the tyranny where...
Just recently they gave a woman a longer prison sentence than the rapist that raped her brutally because she criticized him and said that he was a migrant and that he was bad and that they shouldn't have opened borders.
They arrest you for your speech over there.
dan friesen
So, Naomi Seip is a young woman who the right-wing tried to push as the counter to Greta Thunberg, but it didn't really catch on.
She was employed by the Heartland Institute, one of the largest right-wing think tanks around, and she's now making her career a pro-AFD crusade.
jordan holmes
Good!
dan friesen
This shouldn't be too surprising since her mother is a lawyer for AFD politicians, and she claimed in 2020 that she was inspired to get into activism by watching Stefan Molyneux.
When asked if it was a problem that he'd done that whole trip to Poland where he decided that life is better with only white people around, Naomi pretended to think that was taken out of context and said, quote, The bottom line here is that she's continued on with her Molyneux-esque politics and has now become a leading voice supporting the AFD, which is the extreme right-wing hyper-nationalist party in Germany that has at least some neo-Nazi ties and affiliations.
Naomi tweeted something about how the CDU party should align with the AFD instead of the Green party and Elon Musk replied, quote, only the AFD can save Germany.
This happened the other day.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Alex can't get Musk on to talk about the tweet, so the person who Musk was replying to is about as good as he can do, so here we are.
Also a big fan of the AFD and Musk, and Alex ran their car into some people at a Christmas thing the day after Musk said only the AFD can solve.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
No big deal.
jordan holmes
You know, I say this, alright?
I don't think Nazis are good.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And they're a little terrifying.
But a lawyer for the Nazis is terrifying.
I don't know if that person believes anything at all, but I do know that they'll watch someone die.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then they'll bill you.
jordan holmes
And then they'll send a bill.
dan friesen
So Alex, before, I noticed something, and that is that I think that she is, like, late.
Or maybe she's like, it's hard to connect the Skype or something.
And so Alex has to kill a fair amount of time.
And so he fancies himself as a watchman on the wall.
alex jones
But if you think the stuff the Justice Department did to Infowars since May 31st was bad, it's even worse now.
I mean, I am dealing with weaponized government because they hate.
Every cell in my body because I'm standing up for you.
I'm in their way, as Trump says.
And it's important for that to sink in.
I don't say this so you love me.
I don't say this so you go, oh, that's a great guy.
I'm saying it because it's the truth.
I am a soldier on the wall defending you and your family and my family that lives in the same village.
The enemies come in.
They burn the farms.
We've all run into the castle.
And, you know, the auxiliary men that are all the farmers and the bakers and the cobblers that live out in the town and out in the farms, when the vandals or the Visigoths or the Huns or the folks come in to the valley and start attacking and burning, everybody runs to the castle to defend as long as we can.
Under siege.
Well, that analogy is not even the best, though it's accurate.
I'm a sentry of the village, of the little kingdom.
And my job is to stay out at an outpost at the mountain pass into the entrance to our little fortress.
And I'm supposed to light the...
unidentified
Watchtowers.
alex jones
Back in the old days, they didn't have radio.
They hadn't even really started using carrier pigeons yet.
So you use the Lord of the Rings analogy that's, you know, fiction, but based on medieval war systems.
And when they see the army of Mordor marching hundreds and hundreds of miles away from Midas Tirith, the capital of Middle Earth, the capital of the good guys.
They light the watchtowers and people 30 miles away see another watchtower on fire and they light the watchtower and then they will light the watchtower.
And you might sit up there for a decade as a watchman on the watchtower until you see the enemy start coming in and you run and you light the watchtower.
Well, that's what I do.
And as new attacks happen, as the enemy attacks and as they pull new scams, I'm studying, no exaggeration, seven, eight hours a day.
Not just on air.
I mean, I am studying.
Six, seven, eight hours.
Some days, ten hours a day.
And I'd like to be doing other stuff.
I'd like to be hiking or playing pool or going to dinner or barbecuing my family or doing arts and crafts with my seven-year-old daughter.
And I still find time to do that.
A couple hours a day.
And I focus completely on her.
But damn it!
She has no future if I don't...
Fight them with everything I've got!
dan friesen
You were just gone for like a week.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
That whole time I was just thinking, get to the plug already, dipshit!
Like, this is so meaningless outside of being a launchpad to getting the audience to buy more CMOS.
It's like, I need you to allow me to light this torch.
Come on, it's perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I want to engage with this metaphor, though.
Alex is comparing himself to a watchman type of guy.
It's his job to light the signal fire, so someone 30 miles away can see it to light their fire, and eventually the warning gets to the Capitol.
That's great.
And I've seen the same movies as Alex, but there's one huge problem here.
That person who's entrusted to light the signal fire needs one quality over all others, and it's something Alex does not have.
That signal fire lighter needs incredible restraint, because if he doesn't have that, it ruins the whole system.
If you light that fire, it means we're going to get the swords and ready the defenses.
So the last thing we need is someone lighting the fire for false alarms constantly.
That's just going to get annoying, and eventually we're going to stop thinking the fire means anything.
Oh, that signal fire?
That's just Alex saying we'll all be dead in a week again.
For most of his 30 years on air, Alex has been lighting the signal fire about complete bullshit that doesn't mean anything.
To the point where he now can headline all of his videos, Nuclear War Starts Today, and people will just tune in to see what memes he liked that day.
No one gives a shit.
He's ruined signal fires.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Crazy.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you this, alright?
I think from our current point of view, from within, it would be hard to argue this.
But if you step back and you look at the evolution of humanity from ape to whatever we are now, I might argue that government is a weapon no different than the invention of the spear.
You know what I'm saying?
It is a weapon against not being human, if you will.
You know?
It's a weapon against every other species on this planet.
The invention of government allows us to become apex predators by pooling our resources together.
I think I might entertain that argument.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
How about you?
dan friesen
I completely lost track of what you were saying.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
He said that he was dealing with weaponized government at the early part, and it made me stop and think of whether or not that government is not itself a weapon.
dan friesen
I think he would love to have that conversation with you.
jordan holmes
I think he would love to have that conversation with me, but I don't want to have that conversation with him.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
Because I don't think he would be okay with the whole we're also apes thing from the jump.
dan friesen
But maybe he would because we're just...
Seed vault of humans who are left here by aliens who have gone off planet.
jordan holmes
That is a good question.
dan friesen
Hasn't that happened?
Or are we supposed to forget about that?
jordan holmes
I mean, that is a good question.
Those are both good questions.
Are we supposed to forget about that and the question itself?
dan friesen
What continuity is important?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex starts rambling like a madman about how he's the only person who really sees truth.
And I was just thinking, Merry Christmas.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
People that are compartmentalized at the mid-level officer corps, because a lot of them are good, the top people are pretty much all bad.
General Flynn will tell you that.
They've been getting mainly globalists in for 30, 40 years, and now it's almost complete.
But the colonels down are good people, some of the best, and the enlisted folks are great.
But the general public always, I see it everywhere, and people say to me on the street, they go, oh my God, the Navy SEALs, they know everything.
The Delta Force, they know all the secrets.
Well, they know compartmentalize who they were sent to kill or who they were sent to, you know, torture.
They know the secrets of their little mission.
I'm not saying their little, but, you know, that little piece.
They don't know the 35,000-foot view because they're not read into it.
Well, I've reverse-engineered it.
My guests are reverse-engineered it.
This is all I do.
I have...
The 35,000-foot view, and I have the one-inch view and the microscopic view.
And all I do is read the globalist-owned internal documents that leak and come out over the years.
And they don't like the fact that I'm up here decompartmentalizing people because even most of the top people in the managerial class of the globalist are not generalist experts in this.
You've got to have a general knowledge of everything and then understand the globalist larger real plan versus the plan they give their minions versus the fake plan they give the public.
And so I'm here raising the curtain up behind the little man behind it.
I'm just Toto.
That's who you are as well.
But we have courage, the little dog.
And so that's where we are.
And understanding that is understanding how to beat the enemy.
They cannot survive exposure.
They wouldn't be going through all this hell to try to intimidate and sue and deplatform and debank and kill and imprison pro-human moral patriots around the world if they had it all sewn up.
And I know most of you are saying, well, that's common sense.
We know that.
Well, the public's starting to wake up, but they don't understand the big picture yet.
Because it is scary and it's hard to believe, but it's there.
It's real.
So, the propaganda would not be necessary if the situation was hopeless.
And I remember even reading in Financial Times of London, where the establishment was being honest about things a decade ago, and they said, if Trump wins, it'll be the end of the world government.
And they said, well, if he wins again, for sure.
And you see, it's their end.
I mean, these guys have committed such financial crimes that, again, they make Bernie Madoff look moral.
They make Ponzi look like an amateur.
Sam Beekman Freed look like a choir boy and And...
I understand why people don't want to admit this.
It's really hard to read all the official documents and admissions and plans and programs that they even put in movies like V for Vendetta or TV series like Utopia where they tell you.
jordan holmes
Or V for Vendetta.
alex jones
And then they do it.
dan friesen
Alright, man.
Three and a half minutes, the thrust and the point of it is just that Alex is smarter than everybody else, and he sees through everything, and you just can't get it.
Even the experts aren't generalists, you understand?
You have to be general.
I see the microscopic and the universe!
jordan holmes
Yeah, when I sensed where we were going, I went somewhere different, and I figured it out.
Horseman of Pestilence on the picket fence.
dan friesen
Okay, so now we sell these to protesters.
jordan holmes
I assume.
dan friesen
Oh, no, picket fence is not a picket line.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's for people who are, I assume, in medium-sized homes.
They've built a picket fence around.
dan friesen
But we could also sell a different version of these to strikers.
People who are picketing.
jordan holmes
Horsemen of...
On the picket line.
What rhymes with picket?
dan friesen
Mime.
jordan holmes
On the picket mime?
Horseman of miming on the picket lining?
dan friesen
Horseman mime on the picket lining?
jordan holmes
I'll take it.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright, let's sell it.
Let's get there.
dan friesen
We've got a product.
jordan holmes
We're coming up with business ideas.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex, he sees all.
He sees everything.
I mean, sure.
jordan holmes
If he can see from the 35,000 foot view, and we apply earlier logic, he is 35 times worse than Joseph Mengele.
dan friesen
But you don't know that he's that tall, though.
If you can see from the 35,000 foot view, that does not make him 35,000 feet tall.
jordan holmes
Fair, fair.
dan friesen
And it is a height-based evil.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is a height-based system for determining evil.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that he sounds...
jordan holmes
What's he doing up there?
dan friesen
I know what he's doing here.
Not having a great Christmas.
Not good.
unidentified
Not...
jordan holmes
No, I wish there were more...
dan friesen
Take the day off.
jordan holmes
I wish there were more wise men on this show.
I feel like there are zeros.
dan friesen
Yeah, none.
Yeah.
So Alex talks here about how he's committed to God.
Sure.
And I guess this is...
He did bring up elves earlier.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So that was as Christmassy as we're going to get.
jordan holmes
We're going to get a little Christmassy.
dan friesen
Close second.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Even if we weren't having these big victories right now, I know the Holy Spirit tells me to do this, that it's going to be a victory in the future, and that the Lord works mysterious ways.
I just have total faith in God.
I could pull up a red light today and they send some assassin.
It rolls down their window and I see a gun pointed at me and the flash and my head's blown off.
In that millisecond, I'm just saying, I love you, Jesus.
Because I know it's God's plan.
I don't believe in God.
I don't trust in God.
Those words are too weak.
I am fully committed, 100%.
No questions.
It's God's plan.
I love God.
I am with God.
I am literally interfacing with God.
And whatever God does, it's God's plan.
And I am absolutely, totally, beyond 100% committed to it.
I never blame God.
I never get mad at God.
I never ask God, why are you doing this to me?
Because God is teaching me.
And teaching others.
And it's part of a larger plan.
So we don't surrender to Satan.
We don't surrender to Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates.
We don't surrender to Barack Obama.
We don't surrender to Anthony Fauci.
We don't surrender to Keira Starmer.
We don't surrender to Xi Jinping.
We don't surrender to Trump.
jordan holmes
We do to Putin.
alex jones
We don't surrender to Rand Paul.
We don't surrender to Alex Jones.
We don't surrender to Tucker Carlson.
We surrender to Jesus Christ.
And his Father and his Holy Spirit.
I have totally surrendered.
And it is the most empowering, perfect, delicious thing I've ever experienced.
Nothing, nothing, nothing even comes.
1% close.
And my only frustration is that I am a fleshly fallen creature and I slip out of gear, like everyone does, back into the sinful nature, back into the flesh, but less and less, and for shorter and shorter period of time, I'll catch myself.
And I ask, whoa.
Holy Spirit, I can't do this.
I need you right now.
unidentified
And it's just, I don't have control.
alex jones
God has control.
He who is in me is greater than he who is in the world.
And that's why they don't like me.
Because they know.
They know our God isn't some wimp.
dan friesen
Slow news day, I guess.
It's Christmas Eve.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, I get it.
Pump up God a little bit.
Give him some props.
dan friesen
Although I do think there's something convoluted in there, and that is that he slips back into the flesh and, like, all this.
But God's in control, so God did that to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
God slipped you back into the flesh to just make you feel bad?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guess?
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
I believe if you follow his line of his closeness related to God, I'm going to have to go with that's horrifying blasphemy on the level of taking God's name in vain.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, big time.
But also, I think that I don't ascribe a whole lot of meaning to any of these thoughts.
There's just an idiot rambling on a radio show.
But what is behind it and what is actually being communicated in the real world is I am beyond any kind of convincing.
I am a zealot.
I am religiously committed to this program that I have, that I have ascribed religious significance to.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I wonder if it's more, I mean, I think you're absolutely right, but there's also an element of, like, God is, you're supposed to have faith in God.
Not like, no, he's there like how I know that the door is there.
The door is there.
I don't need to have faith that the door is there.
That would be silly.
But God was kind of pretty clear that he was looking for the faith part, not like, hey, by the way, you and I are buddies.
dan friesen
Well, that's just level one Christianity.
jordan holmes
I did not know that!
There was more!
dan friesen
You haven't listened to Alex talk about the levels?
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
That's fair.
Yeah, that's like a video game.
He's on the part where he's carrying packages, and there's other...
The delivery missions for God.
jordan holmes
There is the...
Hey, there's car bombs and there's carrying packages.
I feel like one of these could be just...
Yeah, but whatever.
dan friesen
No, he's doing side quests for God.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is not the faith kind of stuff.
It's past that.
jordan holmes
I do not want to get caught in a fetch quest loop for God.
That seems like a waste of time.
dan friesen
You're watching it play out?
jordan holmes
That is a good point!
dan friesen
So, I was like, okay, this guy is having a time on air talking about God.
And then it just kind of...
Fell off a cliff.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
They know our God isn't this fake Hollywood image of Christians that are a bunch of cowardly pieces of crap.
Our God is the God.
Our God created all the wonderment, all the discovery, all the pleasure, all the power!
You want to give God another name?
How about total power?
dan friesen
I think he'd like that.
alex jones
That's the power!
Not this dumbass Satan loser!
Satan's the cosmic loser.
Satan's a joke.
And the only thing, a bigger joke than Satan, is anybody that goes along with him.
But most people never knew what hit him.
And it's our job to explain to him, the devil's 100% real.
It's not some metaphorical metaphor, some archetypal thing.
It's a real spirit.
It's a real thing in the universe.
And you got free will, baby.
And if you want to jack into the devil, he's ready to stick it in you.
And I'll tell you, point blank.
Our spiritual nature is sexual.
That's why all the Aleister Crowley stuff is sex magic.
That's why all the Satan cults of sex.
It's an abomination of it.
God gave us men, gave us women, gave us our lives, gave us that.
It's our main driver is procreation and creation.
God loves life.
God made it fun, but in God's confines.
And the spiritual relationship with God is sexual.
And I don't mean playing with yourself.
I mean, it's the relationship between a man and a woman.
That's what Christ said, and it's true.
I'm God's bitch.
And that's what this comes down to.
And if you ain't God's bitch, you're Satan's bitch, and he's going to treat you like a pimp.
He's going to treat you bad.
dan friesen
That's a little upsetting.
jordan holmes
That is very upsetting.
dan friesen
Merry Christmas.
jordan holmes
That is very upsetting.
That is very upsetting.
dan friesen
So I guess he...
The butt stuff is of the devil.
jordan holmes
That sounds very different from God gave his only begotten son.
I read a lot of stuff that it feels like that.
I don't recall spanking or...
unidentified
Listen, this is sexual.
dan friesen
My relationship with God.
When God tells me what time it is, I bust.
jordan holmes
I'm going to tell you something.
Anytime I have ever heard of any religious leader or person starting out with...
Let me tell you something.
God is sexual.
Things go bad from there.
dan friesen
Well, I think that this is an instance where this is merely a symptom.
And we should have seen this earlier when he was yelling about surrender.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
I am fully surrendered.
jordan holmes
Fifty shades of Jesus.
I get it.
Yeah.
No, it's good.
dan friesen
I've never heard someone angrily yell about surrender and giving up.
And God, another name for God is ultimate power.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's no good.
dan friesen
I feel like God doesn't like that.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No good.
Not a strong start to worship.
That's my throw out there.
dan friesen
No, I mean, where is the point for worship and faith in terms of the way that Alex is describing his relationship?
It's not.
It's Minion and...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Go to church.
Sing some songs.
Holy Ghost.
Have a good time.
dan friesen
Isn't it...
I feel like you lose almost everything when you deprive the divine of the divine.
jordan holmes
That is kind of, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is doing that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, in essence, he is turning the divine from something into something he can understand.
And something that he relates to as an equal.
As opposed to being like, I prostrate myself before you because I cannot understand you.
dan friesen
And I think there's something remarkably adolescent about it.
In the same way that my dad was hooked up with the CIA because his mom was a principal.
There is that same kind of relationship with the way his child brain imagines these connections.
It's sad.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'll tell you this.
I'll give you another thing.
Pretty sure God was like, don't name me something other than what I am.
dan friesen
It might be blasphemy.
jordan holmes
Don't name me ultimate power.
That's not what I am.
You can't understand it.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, what you gonna do?
dan friesen
Sometimes Alex knows what time it is in the middle of the night, though.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is a pretty ultimate power.
dan friesen
So who are we to judge?
We aren't.
So Alex says some vague, weird...
Thoughts about people trying to buy Infowars and like, ooh, their day will come.
Sure.
I'm going to go ahead and skip that.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
And move on to him talking about Mayorkas.
Secretary Mayorkas.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Who Alex believes is involved in grand-scale human trafficking.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And so should be hung on national television.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And so Holman says Trump says they're going after him.
Well, that's good.
And, man, I'll be honest with you.
He's open to shut convicted.
I mean, it's a public crime.
He's committed these crimes.
So I would really like to see Mayorkas prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
And Trump wants to pass a law that anybody that is sex-trafficking children gets capital punishment.
But nobody needs to harm a head, a hair on the head.
Of any of these globalists.
That would make them victims.
You know, we want them prosecuted and given fair trials where all of it's opened up to the public.
And then whatever the jury gives them.
And I'm sure once this all starts coming out, the people are going to want these pedophile ringleaders hung I think that's the way to do it.
Yeah, I started hanging them on national television.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So, that's where this needs to go.
But don't you harm a hair on their chinny-chin-chin.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
Their house of cards is already coming down.
We're gonna get them.
dan friesen
That's healthy.
I mean, that seems like a good society.
It has public executions that are broadcast on television.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm going to throw this out there.
I don't think he actually wants a fair trial.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Did you get that from his tone?
jordan holmes
There's a part of me that thinks, for instance, if he were given a fair trial, and maybe the prosecution on the government...
Like, made some procedural errors?
Maybe hid some evidence that would be helpful to the defense to the point where it led to a mistrial?
I don't think he would be like, well, then justice was done.
dan friesen
I think Alex might ramble about how we need to get some ropes.
jordan holmes
I think he might.
I think he might say, well, at this point, now we take justice into our own hands.
dan friesen
I would hope.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Honestly, because...
If not, I have no idea what he's even doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, he does kind of, it is required for him to do that.
dan friesen
At this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex, in the past, we have heard him talk about Russian intelligence, sort of grooming him a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, talking about how great he is, and how do you know all the things you know?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, sort of, maybe light compromising.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex is...
Disgust.
jordan holmes
Free compromising, too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
He talks a little bit more about some of that.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
But this has to do with the FBI, the CIA, and the Russians.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
They're all trying to get people to fuck him.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
alex jones
They spent four years.
This is Congress.
jordan holmes
It's sexual.
alex jones
Trying to find some Trump supporter that was prominent or official.
That would sell out to Russia.
Russia wasn't doing it.
It was the FBI and the CIA.
That's all come out.
Sex operatives, you name it.
They couldn't even get hot 30-year-old sex operatives who would, you know, some of the Republicans had sex with the operatives.
But when it got down to, hey, I work with the Russians, I want to give you a million dollars, they're like, bull crap.
And it came out, they'd go report them to the government.
So the Republicans did go to hotel rooms and, you know, have sex with these women.
But none of them took the money.
And I had them put sex operatives on me.
They've done it in front of the crew.
I've laughed at them.
I said, well, what do you got, a sociology degree?
Would you go to Georgetown or something?
Or did you go to, yeah.
Oh, you work for the CIA, huh?
You're actually in the agency, right?
And the women start shaking.
Oh, you want to go to the hotel room right now, right?
Hey, guys, look at these CIA ladies.
They think they're so smart.
We think I'm a dumbass?
What, you want to Julian Assange me, sweetheart?
Quite frankly, I wouldn't say you're ugly, but, you know, you have to be Marilyn Monroe, honey.
Plus, I'm married.
Why don't you take your ugly asses and get out of here?
And, man, when you start telling them where they went to school and what degrees they got, because you can just tell.
I can see military people say, you were in the Marines, right?
Even without the tattoos.
So you were in the Army, regular Army?
We're in special operations.
You just tell all the groups have their own things.
I know what pedophiles look like.
I know what globalist sex operatives look like.
I've had the Russians put sex operatives on me at least three times.
And, boy, the Russians, it's as naked and ham-fisted as it gets.
Putin like you.
They haven't done it in, like, 15 years.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true.
alex jones
But I'll be at some 9-11 event or some speaking event.
Like, oh, Mr. Jones.
Be like a handler guy, usually about 65, you know, some Russian agent.
She likes you.
Be some beautiful blonde.
Oh, she would like to go to dinner with you.
Oh, wait, you're not like woman?
How about money?
Stocks?
You come to Miami.
Putin like you.
You say, well, how do you know those weren't?
No, no, no.
When the FBI does it, it's done differently.
dan friesen
Okay, it's done differently.
I guess if I were, I don't know, somebody who's in the business of fucking with people for a government and, you know, I'd made multiple attempts.
To sway Alex with money and women.
And I realize that this man does not need money and women.
It would become very obvious that he needs validation.
And so maybe I would go that tactic.
If I were Alex, I would really start to think about that as opposed to bragging about these kind of tinged with misogyny stories that he has about turning down alleged honeypots.
I know it's fun to...
Reenact this bravado kind of story for the audience, but this just seems incredibly stupid.
jordan holmes
I feel complicated about this clip, and I'll tell you why.
First thing is, maybe, maybe, this clip is actually incredibly good in a practical sense, because this is a man with a massive power imbalance over his female fanbase.
Who is not taking advantage of them simply because he's insane.
dan friesen
That could be.
jordan holmes
Right?
So in certain ways, there are many women who could have been taken advantage of in that exact fashion that many people have done in the past, let's be honest, that were not, but not in a morally righteous way.
dan friesen
Because of honeypot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Because of too much paranoia.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Now, I would also say...
That if my wife was listening to me and she put in the order of operations where I go, you're not hot!
Plus I'm married!
That's the wrong order of operations.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Addition after multiplication, I think.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about their marriage, but I'm going to guess.
This is not high on the concern radar.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
Agreed.
No, no, no.
You're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
dan friesen
Can't imagine it being a wildly healthy, happy place.
But, yeah, I don't know.
Alex has probably been really close to falling.
Look, here's the other thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay, he's saying that, like, oh, yeah, these Republicans fucked these honeypot people, but they didn't take the money.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that means.
dan friesen
I don't either.
I also don't care.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Agreed.
dan friesen
Recently, Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Tenet Media, all of them got a ton of fucking money from this.
jordan holmes
Took the money!
dan friesen
Yeah, so what?
Like, he's going on about how, like, no one took the money.
We all have so much integrity.
unidentified
It's like, dude, this just happened.
jordan holmes
What's the...
Well, now I'm questioning the order of operations for Russia.
Do they start with money and then go to honeypot?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Right?
So did Tim Pool and they're like, hey, hey, give us the money.
We don't want to ruin our marriages?
dan friesen
Well, now you start to peel back these onion layers here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you start to think, like, maybe nothing happened.
Maybe there was no FBI or CIA honeypots.
Maybe there was no Russian honeypots for Alex at all.
Yeah.
Some people just hit on him at a 9-11 event, and he thought it's spies.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Maybe all of it has been in his head.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm saying.
Imagine if everybody in Whitesnake was like, ah, you're in the CIA.
dan friesen
It's a fad.
jordan holmes
Imagine.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, so many.
The world would be different.
dan friesen
Different.
So, this next glyph I just thought was good old-fashioned fun.
alex jones
Got to do something about these missing children grabbed by the perverts.
Too many incidents.
Fast trial.
Death penalty.
That's Trump.
Who, by the way, first exposed Jeffrey Epstein.
And then we've got this video.
Let's play this.
jordan holmes
Exposed himself to Jeffrey Epstein.
Very different.
alex jones
A little bit different.
A CIA contractor who recently caught trafficking children at an airport.
We'll get to that coming up.
Then our guest is going to join us.
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dan friesen
Okay, that seems, first of all, desperate.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I can't imagine sales are going...
You need new customers really badly if you're giving away that much of the off-top.
10% off-top for just posting a link or whatever.
unidentified
That's a lot.
dan friesen
You really are trying to...
So that sounds bad.
But also, Trump was the first to expose him.
alex jones
Yup, yup, yup, yup.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know what else to say other than if you were going to give him another name, it would be King Honeypot.
dan friesen
Well, you know what's crazy is that Alex usually gives himself that honorific.
That he's the first person who exposed Epstein.
jordan holmes
He does, he does.
dan friesen
And now he's given that to Trump.
jordan holmes
He's surrendering, if you will.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
This is sad.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest, like you said.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it is this German false Greta Thunberg lady.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
naomi seibt
But this year I really...
I invested all my efforts in speaking up for free speech in Europe and Germany in particular on X mostly and it apparently caused a lot of Media uproar internationally, especially in Germany, because the mainstream media in Germany is quite brutal, as it's mostly controlled by the state.
We even pay so-called GEZ taxes for the state media propaganda.
Not all of them, but it's just very hard to even compete with these mainstream channels in Germany.
And also in connection with our German guild, as you know, it's been very...
I think it's very problematic to inspire people to be brave.
And look into the side that is denounced and demonized as the alleged Nazi side.
But now the lies are becoming so obvious in the mainstream media that more and more people are just so fed up with the establishment.
And at this point, there are only two ways that you can vote.
You can either vote for the AfD, which will mean change, and finally abolishing everything that has been destroying your lives in Germany for the past, I would say, over nine years.
dan friesen
This sounds familiar.
jordan holmes
That does sound incredibly familiar.
I do believe I've heard those very words from German people in the past.
dan friesen
I am blown away by how kind of on the nose this is.
And also...
I can't imagine how difficult it must be to try and sway people with similar arguments and tones to what the Nazis said when they rose to power with the national guilt, as she calls it.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
It's problematic to try and make Nazi arguments.
jordan holmes
It is hard not to think that...
Remember when I mentioned the Treaty of Versailles earlier, and there was maybe a speech given about how we need to do something about that, and it's ruined your lives over these past few years, and then it could be something there.
unidentified
It could be a parallel there.
dan friesen
It's shocking to me the amount to which this is pretty blunt.
Yeah.
She's saying, essentially, we're not Nazis.
But, because of that Holocaust thing, it's really difficult for us to make Nazi arguments.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
We have to really encourage people to be brave when everyone calls us Nazis.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep.
Whenever they say, oh, you sound like Nazis, and you're like, no, we don't, and then they put up the words that we have said next to the words that Nazis said.
It is bravery that keeps you continuing to believe you're not a Nazi.
dan friesen
And if you vote for us, it'll solve all the problems that have been there for nine years!
jordan holmes
I love a good, we'll solve all your problems if Nazis.
I like that.
That's a good pitch.
dan friesen
So, she has some other things to say about the MSM.
jordan holmes
Sure.
naomi seibt
Donald Trump's victory has inspired countless people, even in Germany.
To look behind the lies of the mainstream media.
Because until the very end, even days before the election in America, when it was basically clear for everyone in America that Trump was going to win, German media still spread the lie that it was looking like Kamala Harris was going to get into office.
And over 70% of Germans still believed that Kamala Harris was going to win.
Not that they supported her.
Simply that based on what they got from the mainstream media...
They thought she was genuinely going to win.
And then after Donald Trump's victory, suddenly they realised, wait a minute, what else have we lied to?
That's why this had such an international impact, and this is also why German politics matters to America, in my opinion.
I think we should form better relations between Germany and America.
jordan holmes
An axis, if you will.
naomi seibt
To achieve so much greatness in collaboration with each other, because we are patriots on both sides.
That doesn't mean that we are nationalist extremists.
It simply means that we are proud of what we can achieve by ourselves in our own nations.
jordan holmes
Extremely proud.
naomi seibt
But we also like to collaborate with each other and then fight the same tyranny.
dan friesen
If I were Alex and I had just heard that, I'd probably say wow too.
Is she making an appeal that the US and Germany should be allies?
Because I'm pretty sure we have some strong diplomatic ties.
jordan holmes
I think we're already allies.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think you're talking about a very specific set of people allying with another very specific set of people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This guest, she sounds like someone who has a lack of perspective.
And she's just trying to pull these same tricks that worked really well in 2016, but they feel hollow now.
Someone saying that Trump...
Winning in 2016 made them aware of some of the ways that they aren't given the full picture by the media?
That makes sense then.
This time?
Fuck off.
It's using the same script in a way that's like, ah, you're not blowing minds anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, and I think part of the irony there is that if you were going to pull everybody in America honestly and get an actual response...
It wouldn't be the same as the vote.
I think 70% of Americans would have been like, eh, Kamala's probably going to win.
You know?
It had nothing to do with whether or not you wanted somebody to win so much as it was like, that was the vibe.
dan friesen
Yeah, and for whatever media coverage there is, I think this year was overly...
Hey, it's close.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't mean overly in a way that it's like misleadingly.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
But there was a horse racishness to it that if you thought for sure Harris was going to win, then that's something you're bringing to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't have a whole lot of interest in this.
This guest.
jordan holmes
This Nazi?
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I mentioned that she tweeted something, and then Elon Musk said that only AFD can save Germany.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
dan friesen
And then the day after that, a guy who was an AFD supporter ran his car into a bunch of people in Germany.
And maybe that guy, maybe it was a false flag.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
They're refusing to extradite him for a bunch of reported crimes in Saudi Arabia, and then he goes and does this.
And it's exactly what AFD's been warning about with all these other Christmas attacks with cars in Germany and France, the freedom barriers they put up, the Orwellian term, and then magically he supports Alex Jones and Elon Musk.
I mean, I've seen this movie before.
What are you thinking about that?
naomi seibt
They are putting a target on my back as well because apparently he followed me too and he, well, the media say that he was a fan of mine.
I don't buy it.
Because he did speak a lot of German on X as well, and he communicated with a couple of my friends and colleagues in the German sphere who are Islam critics.
Some of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he communicated with a bunch of the people who have the same ideas as me.
I can't believe he's real, though.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
She's making the argument that he's like, maybe it's a Fed thing, but also maybe he's crazy.
No, that's a guy who believed your same shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Maybe the most prescient bit of comedy that we grew up with was the Austin Powers penis pump.
You know, like, here's a receipt signed by Austin Powers saying I am purchasing this penis.
Like, there's no way to really get over the hump with you people, is there?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
And I think that there's something incredibly tragic about the mentality here that is, like, there was a tragic event that happened.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there are victims of it, direct victims.
There are sort of secondary victims of people who know people.
There's tertiary victims of, you know...
The way that she's presenting this is like, she's the real victim of this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
She and Alex and Elon Musk, they're the real victims of this.
And I find that abhorrent.
I think that's really sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what do you expect?
jordan holmes
I mean, you have to expect this.
They're Nazis.
dan friesen
So she talks a little bit about how she was red-pilled by bigots.
Well, that'll happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll happen.
naomi seibt
And I remember specifically, actually, when I was only 14 years old...
I had nothing to do with politics.
I had no interest in politics, and I knew nothing.
But my mother was invited, actually, to a CDU event, so the Merkel party.
Just a small event, but there was this one politician from the CDU.
His name is Ruprecht Polenz.
Germans will know who he is, and he doesn't like me either.
But he was there as, like, the star guest, and I...
I guess I didn't look up to him, but I knew that he was famous kind of in the CDU and he was standing right behind Merkel, basically had a big impact.
And I remember when I was 14, 13, he said at this event, we need to do everything in our power to eliminate the AFD.
And in that moment, I got chills and I was thinking something is wrong.
That has nothing to do with democracy.
And as the years went by and then the migration crisis started in Germany, that's when I was truly red-pilled because I started asking questions or criticizing the migration crisis simply because, yeah, I didn't realize there was so much stigma against anything that could be denounced as racist in some way.
And I was wondering, why are my questions apparently politically incorrect?
Why can I not ask questions?
Why can I not be critical of government structures and anything that is restricting our freedom in Germany?
And then I looked into different political ideologies and I found out a lot about libertarianism due to people like Stefan Molyneux, for example.
You may still know him.
And that's how I got into your shore as well.
And that truly red pill me and I kept following what the AFD was doing.
And I realized that they were the only ones standing up for our sovereignty and our freedom.
dan friesen
Yeah, see, you found Stefan Molyneux and Alex Jones because you weren't asking questions.
You thought they were questions, and they felt like questions to you, but they weren't questions.
And you found people who...
Sort of encouraged you to ask less questions or look this way with your question.
And everyone, the reason the people didn't respond to those questions sincerely at the beginning was because they're not sincere questions.
You may have felt, she might have felt like they were then.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But they are certainly not anymore.
No.
I think that anybody in 2024 who brings up Stefan Molyneux, wow, what a disaster.
jordan holmes
What else is there to say?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
What?
A disaster.
Alex probably was like...
Yeah, don't do that.
I pretend I didn't know that guy.
jordan holmes
We don't do that anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, no way.
jordan holmes
That's somehow he's a pariah now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In this climate.
Yeah.
Come on, bud.
It is interesting to me how many people are red-pilled by the question like, why can't I be racist?
And not un-pilled by the women should be killed.
You know, like women are meat.
It should be one of those things where you're like, you know what, I'm out.
I'm out for this one.
I'll be racist over here.
I can do that.
dan friesen
But the other thing that's like, oh, you're red-pilled by like, why can't I be racist?
And like, why aren't you un-pilled by the awareness that...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
A lot of people are.
jordan holmes
I face no consequences.
Why can't I be racist?
dan friesen
It's ridiculous to imagine that there's some kind of actual thought police.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Do you see the world around us?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, part of that disingenuous question is, the real question is, Why do people make me feel bad when I am racist?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, I want to be racist.
dan friesen
Why can't I be free to be me?
jordan holmes
Right.
Why can't I be racist and feel good about that?
And then, you know, if you ask that question, the sincere answer would be very obvious.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the answer that maybe you're, like, emotionally trying to solve.
And then you find people like Stefan Molyneux who tell you...
Hey, it's because there's people who aren't white around.
That's a real problem.
There you go.
Like, why won't people talk about this?
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Anyway, she is somebody who Elon Musk seems to like a bit.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And it turns out, this shocked me.
Elon Musk reached out to her.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
About the AFD.
jordan holmes
Good news.
naomi seibt
When it comes to the AFD and German politics, he initially reached out to me already earlier this year when I...
I just support them.
dan friesen
So Naomi is 24 years old and is a YouTuber whose only real claim to fame is that the Heartland Institute tried to use her to fight against climate change activists when she was 19. This led to her doing things like speaking at CPAC and becoming a darling for white identity movement leaders like Martin Zellner.
She's out here pretending she has no connection to AFD, but her mom's a lawyer for multiple party members.
So she is who Elon Musk decides to reach out to so he can find out about the whole AFD thing.
It seems like a guy who has a legitimate and sincere interest in finding out the truth.
That's who you would ask, right?
I mean, a YouTuber who was just a counter to Greta Thunberg?
Yeah.
That's who I would reach out to if I was like, hey, everyone seems to be calling these people Nazis.
What's your take?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I wonder.
Let's...
I wonder.
dan friesen
Hello, I'm the richest man in the world.
jordan holmes
I wonder if he's trying to fly around the world for the first time in 1920.
You know, I mean, the history is repeating itself a little bit.
A little bit on the nose.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is just sad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has a great time with her, and she's the model of what everybody should be like, because she's...
I guess advancing a far-right German party.
And then here's where we will dismount.
naomi seibt
Thank you.
Merry Christmas to everyone.
alex jones
Thank you so much.
What an amazing lady.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be right back.
We're about to expose LeBron James.
dan friesen
Oh!
You know what I love about that?
It almost seemed like a surprise to Alex that LeBron James was the name that ended up coming out of his mouth.
We're going to expose...
Pause.
LeBron James came up on the wheel!
jordan holmes
Done!
Oh boy.
That is a good way of...
It does feel like that.
It does feel like you might as well have spun a wheel if LeBron James is the name that comes up.
dan friesen
I'll be damned!
jordan holmes
How about you?
dan friesen
So this was an interesting Christmas Eve adventure.
I think that...
I was really alarmed by the sexual relationship with God, the rambling about how he's the only one who sees through things.
And then you end up having a, I mean, for lack of a better word, Nazi-ass guest.
jordan holmes
I wonder if it was, you know, we talked about paradoxes at the beginning.
I wonder if it's an oxymoron, if you will, to say that these were Nazis kvitzing.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Or is it ironic?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Let's call Alanis.
jordan holmes
Let's call her.
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll see how he comes down from this holiday high.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Leo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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