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#986: December 3, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex lying about Bill Gates, misreporting a story about the Vermont supreme court, and just barely remembering the details about the Three Little Pigs.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
14:29
d
dan friesen
35:39
j
jordan holmes
19:41
Appearances
Clips
b
bill gates
00:09
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller in the future.
andy in kansas
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is that I have a confession to make.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I was a little bit rough on the entirety of Europe on our last episode and discussed the European mind.
Sure.
unidentified
And how they are obsessed with marshmallows.
jordan holmes
You did.
dan friesen
I got a little bit of pushback about that.
jordan holmes
You got some pushback.
dan friesen
I did, but I also got some affirmation.
I got some people saying it is confusing how much we enjoy marshmallows over here.
jordan holmes
The European mind is confused.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
unidentified
And I don't know which way to go with it, but I do need to own up to myself.
dan friesen
And to public accountability.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
From you and from the audience.
And that is that while I was over there, I think I got a new favorite candy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is Squatchies.
jordan holmes
Squatchies.
dan friesen
Squashies.
Look at this shit.
Drumsticks.
jordan holmes
Squashies.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're like weird pillow kind of things.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Tell me what it says the flavor is.
It's on the front.
jordan holmes
It's on the front?
dan friesen
Yeah, at the bottom there.
jordan holmes
Oh, original raspberry and milk flavor.
dan friesen
Raspberry and milk.
Doesn't that sound gross?
Raspberry and milk candy.
jordan holmes
The European mind is confused.
dan friesen
They are so good, though.
jordan holmes
I love this.
dan friesen
I love these.
I'm going to order a truck of them.
I got every variety of them that I could find.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
You went whole hog.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There was a strawberries and cream one, which is fine.
jordan holmes
Is it texture?
dan friesen
I mean, yeah, it's like a gummy kind of thing, but a little bit softer.
jordan holmes
But you're in on the raspberry and milk flavor.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I think the reason why is that they are discreet.
There's a pink side and a white side, and they are definitely different.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I like that about it.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
And it is kind of like a fruit and cream.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Orange sickle is a great classic.
jordan holmes
People like it.
dan friesen
I would like to see an orange sickle squashy.
jordan holmes
It would be interesting if they were like, we can't do that.
dan friesen
No, that's an American.
jordan holmes
We don't fuck with oranges.
How dare you?
dan friesen
No, that's not true.
The European mind loves to put orange with chocolate.
They have orange chocolates at every grocery store.
jordan holmes
Orange chocolates are incredible, though.
dan friesen
So they don't mind an orange.
jordan holmes
No, they don't.
dan friesen
But maybe not an orange with a cream.
jordan holmes
The European mind!
dan friesen
Let me hip the Europeans to the great orange cream combination.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I've said this before, but I'm sorry for saying the European mind too much.
dan friesen
There was one that I did not buy, and that was bubblegum.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Just because I thought, like, well, this is a gummy kind of thing, and if it's going to taste like bubblegum...
jordan holmes
But not be bubblegum.
dan friesen
And then I'm going to swallow this thing that I'm chewing.
I think it would feel weird.
jordan holmes
Bad precedent.
dan friesen
So I decided not to.
There was another one that had the minions on them.
So, of course, banana.
jordan holmes
Right.
That would make sense.
dan friesen
I can't remember what the other flavor was.
But anyway, squashies is great, and I'm sorry that I didn't take responsibility for how much I like them when I was shit-talking the Europeans on their marshmallows.
jordan holmes
It happens.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, I think we've got the last truly great Kendrick album.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
GNX is fantastic.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Fucking great.
He has absolutely lost his mind, and we're in full-on crazy territory from here on out.
Whatever happens, don't be surprised.
dan friesen
How do you think this is manifesting or could manifest?
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know how it's going to go down, but earlier one of my bright spots was D 'Angelo, and D 'Angelo became too sexy, and that just happened, and the world punished him for that.
Kendrick may have gotten too good at what Kendrick does.
And he's going to be defeated for it.
I don't know how to explain it other than, like, this is what we've seen in the past.
The world is coming for him now.
dan friesen
It does feel like he became so powerful in the last year.
unidentified
Too powerful.
jordan holmes
Too powerful.
dan friesen
I think that String of Diss tracks really...
It's comical, almost, the level...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That it arose him, too.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that he's going to sing at the halftime of the Super Bowl and probably going to shit on Drake.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, he literally, he might as well have tilted with God and defeated him.
And on this, he very much has a direct conversation with God.
And he believes whatever you may think.
About that track, Reincarnated, you should listen to it very closely if you're worried about whether or not he's going to go crazy, because he is absolutely going to go crazy.
dan friesen
It almost feels like when you have a level of success like he's had in the last year, you almost have to, like, bow out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you gotta go.
dan friesen
You know, there's the old, you know when to hold him, when to fold him, know when to walk away.
You know, like, I have...
Had too good a year.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Well, I mean, you think of all the things that humans have not evolved to do, but even famous human beings...
Still have never been this fucking famous.
You know, like, we've had famous people in the past who, like, the whole world knew who that guy who farted in the 1700s was in France.
He was great at it.
He was so famous and everything.
But that wasn't 8 billion people know that Drake can go fuck himself famous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
That's famous.
dan friesen
True.
Still not quite Hoctaw level.
jordan holmes
Nothing is ever going to get that big.
Nothing's ever going to get back to it.
That's primal.
That goes back to the very start.
Before Sapiens, when we were erectus, Hawk Tua was there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We're coming up on the end of the year, and we really do need to wrestle with the fact that somebody randomly asked a woman on the street about some sexual techniques.
She made a reference to a blowjob, and she probably has millions of dollars now.
jordan holmes
Probably.
She's got her own cryptocurrency, I heard.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
I hope it's going great.
dan friesen
I don't think it is.
I think I saw on Twitter that the bottom might have fallen out almost immediately.
jordan holmes
How is that possible?
unidentified
Unpredictably.
jordan holmes
How is that possible?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
So, today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about December 3rd, 2024.
That is the old, what, Tuesday?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sounds good.
So, we're going to talk about that, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, it makes my partner uncomfortable every time they hear Alex say, I love you, and it makes me uncomfortable that I casually refer to Alex by first name to them.
I love your work.
Thank you so much.
You're an outpolicywonk.
alex jones
I'm a policywonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Yeah, I sometimes, uh, have...
Referred to Alex by his first name.
jordan holmes
Just as Alex?
dan friesen
Well, yeah, to my therapist.
And that's strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I go with AJ.
It makes me feel better to both be specific that it's not Alex, you know, and also...
I'm not going to say Alex Jones every time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Next, I hope you enjoy this shout-out, Bill, from the Baywatching Podcast.
And thanks to Venezia for begrudgingly letting me listen while we feed the cats.
I'll play her just the shout-out for this one, Jordan and his wife style.
I love you guys.
Thank you so much for now, policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Dan and Jordan say trans rights while the right keeps whining.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Jadizia and Colm, our dog farting for their lives.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thanks so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So today we got this episode December 3rd.
We're going to talk about it.
Alex is dumb.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
On our last episode we covered December 2nd and he was...
Really trying not to get to the point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he does a fair amount of that on this episode too, but I thought two episodes of me playing him about to get to something might be super annoying.
So I didn't do that.
So that means this episode might be a little shorter.
jordan holmes
It would be interesting to see if the rake effect applied to us in this regard.
Like, how many episodes in a row could we get there before it became funny again?
dan friesen
Yeah, I hope we...
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
To what level are all of our episodes just that?
jordan holmes
I thought the exact same thing almost immediately after saying the last part.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that I could...
Do another episode about Alex not getting to the point in a row.
I definitely could do two, but I probably wouldn't feel great.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So he starts off the show with some big news.
Such big news, he's getting chills.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Thank you again for joining us.
All right.
I've absolutely got to cover all this.
And more is breaking as we speak.
My head's spinning.
unidentified
But...
alex jones
Exposing the COVID tyranny for four plus years.
As time moves on, we have the biggest news ever because more and more comes out.
So I've said probably 20 times the last four years, this is the biggest COVID news yet.
Because each time it is topped.
What has come out in the last, well, I just got chills.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Every time I'm over the target, I just get chills.
What's come out in the last 48 hours and in just the last few hours is insane.
dan friesen
So I was sitting thinking, I was listening to this, and I'm like, what could it possibly be at this point?
Like, what bombshell is possible?
He's proved that, like, the government planned for years to release a bioweapon.
Like, he claims he's proved all this stuff, so what else is there to prove?
What news could be bombshell if you believe anything he's saying?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
No, we were talking just a little bit about the problem of escalation, you know?
And I ask myself, If he were telling the truth this entire time...
What actually would be necessary to get him chills, you know?
Like, not just he has proved this, but now that he's done all this stuff, what is it?
Like, he's holding hands with aliens as he's telling people?
It has to be huge!
dan friesen
That would be exciting.
jordan holmes
It would have to be that level, right?
dan friesen
Well, it was over for humanity four years ago.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Six months ago, he was considering calling in the Angel of Death to take out Biden.
Oh, he did.
jordan holmes
He did.
Let's not act like he didn't.
dan friesen
This is a very serious thing, and I don't want you accusing him of that without evidence.
jordan holmes
Just because it didn't happen does not mean that I do not tell you right now in full spirit that man called upon him.
dan friesen
I think that you have good reason to believe that he may have.
But this is so serious, the idea of calling in the angel of death, that I cannot allow you to...
Act like this around the subject.
jordan holmes
Would it be defamatory for me to claim that he is...
dan friesen
On a cosmic law level, too.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He'd be held in God's civil court.
jordan holmes
I mean, the thought gives me chills.
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, the thing that he does is like this, there's like, just like if you think of the news importance on a level of like one to ten, he does like one, one, one, four, four, four, four, four.
Ten!
Four!
You can't get past where you've already been, and you're trying to excite me about something you've already...
I don't know.
It feels stupid.
jordan holmes
It's not the best way to do things.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So while we're on the subject of escalation, on our last episode he had 36 stacks of paper.
36 stackies in front of him.
jordan holmes
There is no justification possible for 36 stacks of...
I don't think there's 36 stacks of anything that's possible to be good.
dan friesen
Squashies.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
So if you don't think 36 is good, if you think that's bad, what do you think about 40?
jordan holmes
That's too many!
alex jones
And this stack is, look at this baby.
This is just the last 48 hours.
Most of this is just today.
Look at this.
You're a TV viewer.
You're already a listener.
We're talking probably 40 plus articles and videos just right here.
unidentified
I mean, it is unbelievable.
alex jones
Bill Gates comes out and confesses, brags, that he does secret, illegal, Nuremberg Code-violating experiments on children, women, and men in India.
dan friesen
Ooh, that's a big admission.
A lot of stacks of paper.
He's talking sensually about these props.
jordan holmes
It does give him a lot of sexual gratification to think about a piece of paper saying the things that aren't true.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Chills.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna fuck that stack.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about a clip here from a podcast that Bill Gates did that was released on October 30th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's over a month old and no one cared when it came out.
Someone posted a little clip of it on Twitter and it took off in dipshit right-wing circles, which is the actual story here.
Alex isn't covering what Bill Gates said, he's covering what right-wing social media dipshits are excited about today, which happens to be a month-old episode of a podcast none of them have even heard of.
They don't know the name of this podcast, they don't know the people who are hosting it, they didn't listen to this whole thing, they don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Didn't Bill Gates have a podcast with Rashida Jones for a while?
Wasn't that true?
dan friesen
He was the third Doughboy for a short period of time.
jordan holmes
That's a show.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Gates didn't admit that he was carrying out human experiments in India.
He was saying that India is a country that's facing a lot of public health challenges, but is also relatively stable and financially situated, where things can be rolled out, whereas they might not be able to do that kind of stuff in other countries that are facing similar challenges.
It's super clear from the context, but if you snip out this little tiny clip, it works as red meat for idiots on Twitter, which is the pipeline through which Alex gets all of his news, and you're seeing that clearly illustrated here.
Right.
With this big bombshell of Bill Gates making this admission on a podcast that came out a month ago.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
It's like, yeah, you can't just drop the medicine into the Sudan and be like, oh, it'll get to where it needs to go.
There's got to be infrastructure in place.
There's got to be people distributing it.
There's got to be people who know what to do with it.
dan friesen
It doesn't mean you can't still...
No!
Of course!
When there are countries that have less infrastructure or more external difficulties, you're going to have a tougher time learning from approaches that are taken.
And that's more or less what he's expressing.
And it's just deeply unfair, the way they take this out of context.
There's so many things to attack Bill Gates about.
And these things are just not real.
The things that Alex is mad about are just not real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, being upfront about limitations is not something that you want to encourage less of in your oligarchic billionaires.
dan friesen
It's very weird the way that, like, everything he says about all of these people is wrong.
They still deserve criticism.
Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, George Soros, all of these people have plenty of criticism that should be directed at them, but all of Alex's is wrong.
That's weird.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you were a conspiracy theorist, like maybe somebody like an Alex Jones type, you might think like, oh, these billionaires are buying up false criticism in order to distract people away from the real criticism, man.
dan friesen
I don't think that's it.
jordan holmes
No, but that's what Alex should be saying.
dan friesen
Yeah, about himself.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
That's what would make sense for Alex to say about himself.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
But instead he wastes our time with dumb clips he saw on Twitter and dumb shit that's not real.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
The Vermont Supreme Court said that we can secretly inject your children with experimental shots.
There's not a damn thing you can do about it.
And a whole bunch of other state Supreme Courts have ruled the same recently.
That's horrible, tyrannical news, but at least they're out in the open.
Speaking about...
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
Gates just came out on an interview and said, we use the Indians as guinea pigs to experiment on them, and then we roll it out around the world.
And that's not completely true.
They do it everywhere as well.
But he's been criminally charged before in India, and then...
Swept it under the rug.
dan friesen
So all this just isn't true.
The Vermont Supreme Court was hearing a case that involved a parent suing a school for accidentally vaccinating their child.
The school had a vaccination drive during COVID and the courts found that what happened was a mistake and the officials at the school were protected under the PrEP Act and couldn't be sued for their action.
That calculation would almost certainly have been different if they had maliciously and intentionally vaccinated the child.
Then they would likely be open to assault charges and some compensation.
The PrEP Act would not cover them in cases of willful misconduct, which is what Alex is pretending this case is about, but he's just lying.
I think, huh.
I wonder what book that comes from.
And then I'd have to read something by Bertrand Russell to understand what Alex was talking about and taking out of context.
But these days, it's just anonymous accounts stirring up bullshit on Twitter.
It's very disappointing.
He kind of sucks.
jordan holmes
Higher class of criminal.
dan friesen
That joker's a punk.
jordan holmes
Okay, I wonder.
All right.
I like the idea of maliciously giving somebody a vaccine.
Like, is it possible for you to be a serial killer, like, whose kink, though, is killing polio?
dan friesen
Isn't that Bill Gates?
jordan holmes
Can you maliciously eradicate a disease?
dan friesen
Well, that podcast...
I mean, look, I don't want to say it's malicious, but definitely in that podcast he's talking excitedly about eradicating diseases.
jordan holmes
No, I know!
I just like the idea of somebody...
Like, oh, yeah.
Eat it, kid.
I'm going to vaccinate you against this disease.
All right.
That's the spirit that you're going to sue somebody in.
dan friesen
So you think, if you're this person, you think that it is good for children to have measles, mumps, and rubella.
So you are maliciously protecting them from it.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
Because you don't like these kids, so you're keeping them from getting mumps, measles, and rubella.
dan friesen
Or you secretly think that those things are good.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So because you think that measles, mumps, and rubella are good, you're keeping them away from the children.
Interesting.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What a fascinating person we've discovered.
dan friesen
It was an accident.
Someone had given the kid a wrong name tag at the school.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Someone had given him a wrong name tag?
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
It sucks.
And I don't think that no one is without fault, obviously.
I think that there's some sort of restitution that's probably appropriate in a situation like this.
But they weren't trying to vaccinate this kid without their parents' consent.
That's just a bullshit version of this story.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, that's crazy.
dan friesen
So Alex goes from this and launches off into what I can only describe as a string of bullshit statements about vaccines.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And now they've changed the definition in the last four years from vaccine from being an attenuated virus or microbe, bacteria, dead or damaged or altered to not be dangerous, to teach your body how to defeat the wild version.
It works a lot of the time, has a lot of side effects.
The way the vaccines are made and grown in different tissues, you also become...
Resist it and have an autoimmune response to anything else that's basically in with the main pathogen.
They then add adjuvants to make your body overreact so if they grow like they've done for 40 years.
Remember, nobody had peanut allergies until about 40 years ago.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
1985 or so, right when they started growing the vaccine materials on peanut protein instead of monkey kidneys.
Which happen to have a bunch of cancer viruses that are communicable, like SV40.
Anything I say, just write it down and look it up.
It's all true.
And then they admit in government reports the number one cause of cancer in the Western world, killing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions, over 100 million in the U.S. alone, in the 1990s report that since the 50s until the 90s, over 100 million people killed by cancer from the polio vaccine.
That had SV40, a highly virulent live virus, that goes in and makes your body grow cancers.
And you're like, really?
Viruses do that?
Yeah, they've known that since the 20s.
What do you think a wart is?
dan friesen
So, you know, Alex is right in the sense that you can look up all these things that he's saying and rambling about.
But if you do, you'll learn it's kind of all bullshit.
And once you start trying to look it up...
You don't even know what you're really trying to look up anymore.
Like, if you just listened to that, what would you try to falsify or affirm to assess the truth of his statements?
jordan holmes
You know what I focused on?
dan friesen
Huh?
jordan holmes
How many people do die in a decade in one country?
dan friesen
A hundred million.
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
But that's what I'm saying.
In my head, I'm like, okay, I understand that everybody dies, and there are this many people, and it's a turnover situation.
But I still don't think there's any decade Where a hundred million people have died in one country?
I mean, no, well, I mean...
dan friesen
From the polio vaccine, you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, from anything!
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
I mean, even in the Cultural Revolution, I don't think a hundred million people died.
dan friesen
Well, I'm looking up the CDC here, the data, and deaths per year in the United States are 3.2 million.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So you could assume that's...
Three times at least the number of deaths you would expect in a decade?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's too many.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
That's way too many.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's because he's making shit up.
jordan holmes
Everyone would be talking about it.
Oh, do you remember that decade where three times as many people as supposed to die died?
dan friesen
And then no one was murdered or had car accidents or heart attacks or anything.
jordan holmes
There were no extra other causes of death.
Just, hey, man, a lot of people died in the 90s.
What a weird decade.
dan friesen
Yeah, strange.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
So that's one point you could take to, like, falsify something you're saying.
But there's, like, a hundred things.
He just jumps around.
You can't pay attention and keep track of every one of them.
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
But for one thing, there's no evidence that peanut allergies were caused by vaccines, and vaccines weren't, quote, grown on peanut protein, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
Anti-vax idiots claim that peanut oil being used as an adjuvant for an influenza vaccine is what's behind the peanut allergies process.
people have.
But unfortunately, that was never true of a publicly released vaccine.
Peanut oil was used as an adjuvant in trials carried out by Merck in the 1960s, but it wasn't in that actual flu vaccine that went out to people.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex is correct about SV40, a virus from monkey cells contaminating some polio vaccines until it was discovered in 1963.
Up until that point, the vaccine was grown on monkey kidney cells, and then SV40 DNA was found in biopsies of people who developed cancers later on.
What's fascinating about this case is that not everyone who got the vaccine and then developed cancer later had these cells, and some people who didn't get vaccinated but also developed cancer didn't.
did have these sv40 cells wild even more confounding is that there are cases of people who were born after 1963 when this contamination was discovered and ended who had sv40 cells in their biopsies and this is even true of people prior to the invention of the vaccine biopsies that uh predate 19 uh 1955 or whenever it was that Jonas Salk invented.
There's been so much research about this case because it is really an interesting thing and a definite piece of history.
And there's just not definitive evidence that the SV40 contamination of these vaccines led to any increased incidence of cancer.
It's the sort of thing that passes as an acceptable hypothesis in that it's an interesting question and it possibly could be true, but it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny past that point.
And that's the thing that Alex refuses to accept.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is a case where Alex is descriptively right about something.
the fact that some polio vaccines in the late 50s and early 60s were contaminated with SV40.
But he's wrong about the point he's using that fact to make.
However, he knows that if an audience member decides to get critical and Google what he's saying, they'll find mainstream credible sources confirming the fact that he is correct about, which is the SV40 thing existing, and then they'll just assume that he must be right about the point that he's trying to use that fact to make.
That is the gamble that his entire career is based on, and it's paid off huge.
He's won that bet.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep, yep, that was a good bet on his part.
I wonder...
Okay, now, obviously, there were no statistics to be kept on this prior, but before the king carver figures out peanuts, do peanut allergies still exist?
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
I would assume so.
jordan holmes
Right, but isn't there something to do with some things?
People have eaten them before, though.
dan friesen
George Washington Carver didn't invent the peanut.
jordan holmes
No, exactly.
I understand that he didn't invent the peanut.
dan friesen
He also didn't introduce peanut cultivation.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
He revolutionized it to the point where it...
Exploded.
But the point I'm saying is that it's not like people were keeping track of how many peanuts they ate.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And whether or not they were allergic to peanuts.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Up until that point.
dan friesen
And if you're allergic to peanuts, you might be allergic to something else in that same family.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So, you know, there's a lot of nuts in various things.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
There are people who are allergic to tree nuts and stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, so obviously I think there would have been.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
There have to have been.
But we just...
Because people didn't even...
Why would you write down...
It could be any number of things that killed that guy when he ate that peanut.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what it would be, but there's got to be something we haven't discovered yet that people could be allergic to.
jordan holmes
Totally!
dan friesen
That exists now.
jordan holmes
For sure!
dan friesen
And maybe someone's run into it and had a reaction to it and we just don't even know.
jordan holmes
Maybe it's been killing people since before we were all born and it just always happens at the same time as something else.
So it's just misdiagnosed.
dan friesen
Anything is possible.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
You can't go to Antarctica.
Ghosts.
dan friesen
Nope, that's why.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Demons and ghosts.
jordan holmes
Demons and ghosts.
dan friesen
So Alex is always right about pretty much everything except for the things that he's not.
And sometimes he's just giving you his opinion, but he'll tell you when he's just giving you his opinion, but also he won't.
But he's right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So remember, if you're a new viewer or listener, you're like, how does this guy know all this?
How does he talk so fast?
It just sounds like he's just trying.
No, no, no.
This is all I do.
18 hours a day.
It's research.
So anything I say, you just type it in.
And when I rarely speculate, I will tell you now, this is my speculation.
It will be emboldened.
It will be highlighted.
It will be me telling you now, this is my opinion.
But when you don't hear me say that, it's what I believe.
And you know about 99% of the time I'm right.
dan friesen
So.
alex jones
Bill Gates has confessed that we already knew, but he's bragging, really, about all his illegal human experimentation, Joseph Mingla-level stuff.
Well, it's actually much bigger and wider than that, so Joseph Mingla to infinity.
We have the Supreme Court's ruling, oh, we can forcibly inject your kids, and I even tell you, ha-ha-ha, with experimental things that aren't even vaccines.
You have the Senate report that's 600 pages, but I did read.
The boil-down articles, and check it for myself, and it is 90% of the truth coming out that it's a man-made super virus chimera that Peter Daszak and Bill Gates and the globalists funded it, that they then use the fear of the virus to bring in social engineering and try to create a new society for future lockdowns and to lock you in your home and brainwash children and make hundreds of billions of dollars.
We've got that.
And you're like, well, we already know all this.
Yeah, but it's the Senate.
Judiciary Committee criminal investigation.
So, total vindication of everything we've been saying, like I told you, for 30 years.
dan friesen
So it really sucks that Alex is right 99% of the time, and he had the bad luck of following up, describing how right he is all the time by being wrong about...
A couple of headlines in a row.
jordan holmes
It's such a coincidence.
alex jones
It's very...
dan friesen
It's just...
It's bad timing, really.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
The report he's talking about, but weirdly, still hasn't read, despite being all he does for 18 hours a day.
It didn't come from the Senate Judiciary Committee criminal investigation.
It was from the House COVID Select Subcommittee that has no powers to charge anybody with anything.
Like, this is just embarrassing.
He rambles about how right he is, then misrepresents a month-old podcast clip that he saw on Twitter of Bill Gates.
Yeah.
unidentified
Misreports a story about the Vermont Supreme Court, and then is totally wrong about this congressional report that he knows nothing about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
And still hasn't read.
dan friesen
It's weird.
You'd think you'd read it if you're Alex.
You'd think that would be...
Hold my calls.
I gotta get to this.
This is a Marjorie Taylor Greene involved congressional report about COVID shit.
This is gonna be juicy.
unidentified
See, that's...
jordan holmes
I wonder, you know...
Like, when I think about it, okay?
Imagine Alex is a person that you can understand.
Meaning, he understands that this is all bullshit.
That Marjorie Taylor Greene and her cronies have put together.
To do whatever it is they want to do with it.
Right.
What is not important is what's in it.
What's important is that it exists.
Right?
Now, in that case, it makes sense not to read it.
Why would you fucking read it?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That would be insane.
dan friesen
Or it makes sense to say that you read it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But maybe Alex understands that no one would believe that he read a 600-page thing.
jordan holmes
No one would believe that for an instant.
dan friesen
So he knows he can't get away with that lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's too much.
dan friesen
In this case.
No, I do think it's a dead giveaway that he knows that it's not important.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The fact that he's had days, at least a day now, to read it, and he has not.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think there's a part of me that feels bad for the people who actually collated it, because it's like...
They have to know that they're just grabbing clip art from Wordle.
dan friesen
It's a career.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
It's a job.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I do think that Alex has to know that this is nonsense or else he'd be mining it real hard.
Totally.
But I do think there's something interesting that he says in that clip, which is that 99% of the time...
You know, like, when I say that I believe, like, when I say something's my opinion, I let you know and I underline it.
jordan holmes
But if I don't say that, it's what I believe.
It's what I believe.
dan friesen
Right.
Which is even crazier.
jordan holmes
Which is even crazier that I, that's how I'm supposed to, unless you say it is my opinion, I'm supposed to take it as religious belief.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Nothing is reportage.
Nothing is relaying information.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
It's what I believe.
Or its opinion.
jordan holmes
This is what I think is true, or this is what divine inspiration has revealed to me.
dan friesen
Now, in that instance, I actually think that the 99% is less trustworthy than the one.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because the fact that he believes it, but it's not his opinion, makes me think that he has less reason to stand behind this.
It's a matter of faith that it's 99%.
jordan holmes
I mean, now that's an interesting thought.
Imagine, Alex, in real, in this, if you were Alex, inside of you, your body is going like, we know all of this is bullshit.
We know it's all lies.
But we have to behave this way.
dan friesen
As I have faith.
jordan holmes
I have faith.
What an extreme...
Extreme problem for the world, that would be.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, you know, he's 99% right.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And that's great.
alex jones
So, total vindication of everything we've been saying, like I told you for 30 years, in all the different studies that were there, they knew in 1945 when it started that the type of fluoride they were put in the water is super deadly poison, destroys your immune system, gives you cancer, annihilates fertility, and then three months ago...
FDA says you take it out of the water, it lowers IQ, gives you cancer, and destroys fertility.
Well, I mean, it's frickin' bug poison.
But when they started putting it in the water, they suddenly said, oh, we're not going to put it on store shelves anymore as rat and bug poison.
You have a rat or mouse walks through sodium fluoride on the ground and just gets a little bit on its hands or feet and then licks the paws.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
And that's just sodium fluoride.
They take sodium fluoride and concentrate it into an acid.
And it's called hydrofluorosilicic acid.
unidentified
And it's the second most deadly acid on Earth.
alex jones
And it takes every other poison in your body that's also in the water supply and carries it across the blood-brain barrier.
dan friesen
It really sucks how, even though Alex is right 99% of the time, he happens to follow up being wrong about the COVID report by being wrong about fluoride.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It happens with probabilities, though.
Like, you can flip ten heads in a row, and the coin will still eventually work out to being 50-50.
So Alex can be wrong all the time repeatedly and still be 99% right.
jordan holmes
Unless the universe ends before the math can work out.
So he's got two wrong.
We don't know what the math is.
He could be at 98% right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And if the universe ends tomorrow, then he is definitively a liar.
dan friesen
Well, I actually, as I was preparing this episode, I was thinking about the possibility...
That he's constantly spouting accurate information off air.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And just on air, he's afflicted by some kind of nonsense.
jordan holmes
Okay, so how much information per on air minute would he need to be spitting out to reach 99% accuracy?
dan friesen
It would almost have to be sort of like a trance state where he's like...
jordan holmes
He's doing automatic writing and everything.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Even when he's sleeping.
dan friesen
And I think that if he does do that off air constantly...
There's a chance he's 99% correct.
I think he could attain that.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I mean, okay.
But now that he's...
He has lowered the amount of substance on his show.
So, in effect, you are saying that there's less he can be wrong about.
Just on a time basis, because he's too busy almost getting to being wrong about something.
dan friesen
But he's wrong that he's going to get to something.
jordan holmes
That is true.
He lives in a constant state of wrongness.
It is his state of being.
dan friesen
Well, I guess he's not wrong.
No, I do think he's wrong that he intends to get to something.
jordan holmes
I agree!
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
He is an avatar of wrongness!
dan friesen
Anyway, sodium fluoride was sold as an insecticide, but you can also get it in pill form, like over half a million people do every year in order to fight tooth decay.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It became less popular as an insecticide as other products were developed, but no one's ever been covering that up as a chemical, like...
The fact that chemicals can do one thing to you and a different thing to a bug.
No one is pretending that doesn't...
What does Alex think happens when a dog eats chocolate?
Do you think that means that you shouldn't eat chocolate as a human?
Or is Alex just a fucking idiot?
jordan holmes
I mean, if the government does it, then you shouldn't give your dogs chocolate.
Because the government gives dogs chocolate.
dan friesen
And humans shouldn't eat chocolate because dogs can't eat it.
jordan holmes
Well, if dogs can't eat chocolate, you're pretty much a dog.
dan friesen
Right!
I see a dog and I relate to it.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
And we're both made by God.
dan friesen
Boom.
Hydrofluorosilic acid is not the second most deadly acid in the world.
jordan holmes
What does that even mean?
dan friesen
It sounds good.
jordan holmes
The second most deadly.
It's not a snake.
It doesn't have a venom count.
The second most.
All acids deadly if you drink it.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, to a certain extent.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, I think there are some acids, like a lemon, that are fine.
jordan holmes
Sure!
unidentified
Sure!
jordan holmes
Yes!
Okay, so...
dan friesen
Some acidic things.
jordan holmes
The second most deadly, most concentrated acid.
Is that what we're thinking?
Like...
dan friesen
No.
What he's saying, he's talking about...
He's misremembering some details and pulling things together.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
The strongest acid in the world is fluorineantimonic acid.
And one of the main ingredients...
unidentified
Okay, that makes a lot more sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because I was going to say, I have not seen them try and melt any human bodies in hydrofluoric.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's foolish.
jordan holmes
What did they do in Breaking Bad?
unidentified
Tap water.
jordan holmes
They didn't use tap water to melt that guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that municipality fluoridated their water.
jordan holmes
Man, that would be a bold stroke for them to...
We're going to take a big swig, and we're going to get our one message out that tap water is poison, and we're going to do it in one scene.
We're going to have Jesse melt a guy in tap water.
dan friesen
I think it would have ruined the show.
jordan holmes
I think it would have been tough to watch.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is 99% right.
Right about everything.
alex jones
And more good news.
Ninth Circuit rules in favor of federal deportation.
And of course, that Ninth Circuit is usually pretty leftist.
But the federal law is cut and dry.
And so the federal government has the authority to deport foreign nationals in the U.S. illegally of the objection of local authorities.
A panel of three judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously ruled.
The 29-page ruling was written by Judge Daniel Bress with Judge Michael Hawkins and Richard Clinton concurring.
At issue is the April 2019 executive order issued by the King County Executive Dow Constantine, which directed county officials to prohibit fixed base operations on the county airfield near Seattle.
From servicing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement chartered flights to deport illegal foreign nationals.
So it was a blockade of that.
And this just shoots down all the sanctuary obstructionist garbage.
dan friesen
It's going to be really hard for Alex to keep that 99% average at this point, because he's totally wrong about how he's going about this story.
He's reporting this as a story about how the Ninth Circuit Court ruled that deportations are totally cool, but that's not even what this case is about.
This is a case called USA vs.
King County, and it involved King County, Washington, putting out an executive order saying that fixed base operators who want to have a lease to operate at Boeing Field Airport were prohibited from servicing ICE chartered flights, which is...
flights.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
These fixed base operators are people who, like, refuel planes.
They run the, like, stairs for the planes and stuff like that.
unidentified
Right, yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, they are there and are paid by the airlines and all that.
And so if you wanted to have a lease to operate at their airfield, you couldn't work with And so that was what the US sued this county over.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
The district court ruled that the county could not do this, mostly because it violated the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, and the appeal court just affirmed that decision.
This has no effect on, nor does it say anything about whether or not the government can carry out mass deportations.
It just says that a county in the particular situation that King County was in cannot refuse to do business with the federal government.
Part of that is due to the contract regarding the ownership of the airport itself.
The U.S. government bought the airport in 1941 so it could be used in World War II, and then they sold it back to the county in 1948.
One of the conditions of that sale was, quote, The USA, through any of its employees or agents, shall at all times have the right to make non-exclusive use of the landing area of the airport at which any of the property transferred by this instrument is located or used without charge.
It's conceivable that if there were an airport that didn't have this established contract with the U.S. government, you know, like if it was in a county that passed an executive order like this, the court might have ruled in a different way.
But it probably wouldn't have because of the supremacy clause, which Alex is super against.
The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution says that when federal and state laws conflict, the federal law supersedes the state law.
That's why you can't bring weed to the airport, even though it's legal in Chicago.
Alex is very, very opposed to this clause, even though it's literally in the Constitution and he loves the Constitution.
And supporting the federal government being able to override the wishes of a state or local community runs entirely contrary to his whole philosophy.
Alex applauding this ruling should be rightly understood as a condemnation of the idea that he has any principles.
If you're a states rights ding dong who's happy about this ruling just because you hate immigrants that much, you really aren't into states rights.
Your politics are just shaped around hating immigrants.
But more to the point...
This case has nothing to do with what Alex is covering it and how he's covering it.
You can hear him adjusting as he's cold reading that article.
It starts with him acting like the narrative is that the court said that deportations are cool, but as he reads on, he encountered a few too many details.
So you heard him say, quote, oh, so it's like a blockade.
He's taking in information and making this up as he goes along.
You could almost feel in that moment him being like, ah, ah.
I get it.
jordan holmes
He just did a Star Wars.
He was referring to it as a blockade because that's what was done to Naboo by the Trade Federation.
dan friesen
Who are right, I think, in Alex's idea.
jordan holmes
I mean, anybody with that accent can't be wrong, right?
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is 97%.
I don't know.
He's full of shit.
jordan holmes
That's a bad contract.
Before you start suing people in the law, the county should really have double-checked to see if they had already promised to allow the government to do whatever they want with it for the rest of their lives.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a big clause you should...
If I'm drawing up those contracts, I'm getting that clause out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
Like, maybe five bucks a month.
You know, something.
It's 1948.
That's a lot of money back then.
So you're saying, hey, we'll do this.
But you still gotta pay us five bucks a month to use it.
dan friesen
I imagine in a lot of cases this isn't an issue, and it probably...
I wonder if it's even come up since 1948.
jordan holmes
Let that be a lesson to all of us.
Now you know what you gotta do when you negotiate a contract for your airfield post-World War.
Gotta make sure you get a little something in there for yourself.
dan friesen
Yep.
These are the lessons.
I think it's really...
Really strange that Alex is positioning on this, and I think it requires him to not understand the story in order to maintain the position that he has.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you can just think of so many possible things that he wants local governments to do that are opposed to federal laws and stuff.
Like, he can't possibly have...
Any intellectual consistency and support this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't ding me for not being consistent, though, if I don't even know what I'm talking about.
dan friesen
Right, and I'm 99% correct when I tell you what I believe.
jordan holmes
And I'm saying that this is my opinion that I believe that I am right about this.
dan friesen
So you brought up Naboo.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Home.
jordan holmes
Always.
dan friesen
Of Jar Jar Binks.
jordan holmes
Jar Jar.
dan friesen
Right?
Absolutely.
The Gungans.
jordan holmes
Oh, Misa, big fan of the Gungans.
unidentified
Boss Nass.
dan friesen
That's the guy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex does eventually bring up Star Wars as he rants.
Well, I wouldn't be.
Here's some killing time for you.
alex jones
I have studied these megalomaniacs and understanding them.
Look, anybody that knows about war knows you put yourself in the boots of your enemy.
jordan holmes
What about Star?
alex jones
We'll get there.
You got to put yourself in the boots of your soldiers and your people.
You've got to let them understand the mission.
You've got to sell them completely on it.
It's what needs to be a righteous war.
And then you've got to understand the enemy and what makes them tick and how they operate.
And you've got to get in their head more than you're in your own.
That's true leadership.
And the other part of leadership is doing what you know is right and Not just jumping on bandwagons because it looks like that's what's currently going to win.
You do what's right, believing in humanity and trusting in God and knowing that we're all just being tested so even if we lose, we win because God judges the heart.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Most of you are like, well, everybody knows that.
No, a lot of people don't know that.
They think winning is jumping on whoever the winning team is.
But what if you lose your humanity, lose your soul?
And then your children are slaves.
That's not winning.
That's not second, third, fourth level thinking.
It's one-dimensional thinking.
And people that are into one-dimensional thinking that have gotten some power, they think, man, this works really great.
I'm invincible.
And I liken that in the analogy to cancer.
If cancer had a consciousness and it's taking over the body...
And it's like, man, I can take over this, I can take over that, but then the body collapses because it's not working in unison as a colony of organs and cells, and the host of the cancer dies.
But see, cancer is a great parable or analogy or parallel to evil.
What does Joe say about Darth Vader?
Luke Skywalker says, is the dark side stronger?
And he goes, no, quicker.
Easier.
More seductive.
But it doesn't last.
You can have a cardboard building made out of, you know, crap that looks beautiful, but it won't be there in five years.
First storm comes by, it's going to blow over.
It's like the three little pigs.
One built his house out of straw, and the big bad wolf came along and blew it down.
jordan holmes
Are we doing this?
alex jones
The other one built it out of sticks.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
alex jones
The big bad wolf just had to blow a little bit harder.
But the little pig that built it out of bricks.
jordan holmes
If you finish this story.
alex jones
Well, the wolf huffed and puffed.
jordan holmes
I swear.
alex jones
But.
Don't finish it.
unidentified
Couldn't.
jordan holmes
You suck.
alex jones
Blow it down.
And that's what we're talking about here.
dan friesen
That's what we're talking about.
jordan holmes
In defiance of all precedents set so far on the episode, I do believe he is correct about that being the three little pigs story.
dan friesen
I did worry that he wasn't going to land it.
jordan holmes
I kind of thought he wasn't going to.
dan friesen
I thought he was going to forget bricks.
jordan holmes
I thought we were going to miss one.
I really did.
I thought we were going to just skip over it.
dan friesen
There was a part of me that was like, I can't quite tell if this is dramatic pausing or him not remembering the story.
unidentified
Which one was the one who did good?
Did the wolf eat the other two or did they go live with their buddy?
dan friesen
So now I do think that one of the larger points of Star Wars as a whole, I think, is that the light side isn't great either.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that they have, you know, definitely by the end of it you kind of get the sense that the way that the Jedi worked was kind of bad.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Dogmatic institution.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So...
Yoda's kinda wrong.
jordan holmes
Well...
But at the same time, Yoda is, as a force ghost, the only master who is on the side of, let's fucking go, guys.
Even at the end of Last Jedi, whenever Yoda sets all the ancient Jedi books on fire, he's the one who's like, hey, yeah, those guys were a bunch of fucking idiots.
But he was also king of that guy, so who knows?
dan friesen
But he also only realizes this as a ghost.
jordan holmes
That's the thing.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't want to be Obi-Wan, man.
It's miserable.
You watch people win and then they lose again.
And then they win and then they lose again.
And there's nothing you can do.
dan friesen
Do you think that Baby Yoda's going to be a Jedi?
jordan holmes
Baby Yoda's already...
Do you mean Grogu?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
From the Mandalorian?
Grogu's already said no to the Jedi past.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Grogu went and met Luke in the Book of Boba Fett episode, I think.
Grogu went and met Luke and Luke was like, Hey, you can become a Jedi or you can hang out with your Mandalorian buddy.
And Grogu was like...
Fuck the Jedi!
I'm gonna go hang out with my Mandalorian buddy.
dan friesen
Huh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As somebody who's never seen any of these shows, I kind of thought that Baby Yoda didn't have a whole lot of agency of its own.
Like, it was needing to be taken care of like a baby.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Because his name is Baby Yoda to a lot of people.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
I didn't know that he made a choice about becoming a monk or not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, Baby Yoda was a youngling during Order 66, whenever Anakin goes...
dan friesen
Which he did only because of Antifa false flags.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
But that caused trauma, and that's why Grogu...
Maybe has more baby-like behaviors because it couldn't talk.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Or whatever.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Maybe I should watch this show.
jordan holmes
It's pretty good.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
It's all right.
Not the Book of Boba Fett.
That was trash.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is what happens when Alex is killing time like this.
jordan holmes
I feel it.
dan friesen
Yep.
So this next clip, Alex talks about Jonas Salk.
The evil Jonas Salk.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And again, why does Bill Gates openly brag about it?
We just shoot it right in their arms, having no idea what it's going to do in children's veins.
jordan holmes
Having no idea?
alex jones
Because he's flaunting it.
Because if you hide something in plain view with most people and go, well, of course we're, you know, put cancer viruses in the polio shop.
There's too many people, like Salk said to newspapers.
You're like, wow, you've killed hundreds of millions of people.
Well, yeah, there's too many people.
He and his deputy, I can find him.
It's like 20 years old.
When I found it, it was like 30 years on PBS in Boston.
They're interviewed.
They're both dead now.
They're like, yeah, yeah, killed probably one of the biggest deaths on earth.
I probably killed more people than anybody in history.
But hey, there's too many people.
jordan holmes
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
alex jones
Yeah, guys, it's hard to find.
I probably haven't played it in five years.
I find out, I forget the name of his deputy.
It's always easier to find.
WGBN or whatever.
It's PBS out of Boston.
It's WGBN.
See my mind work.
Look at Boston's PBS WGBN.
I think that's it.
But the point is, that's not...
The point is, is that this is a sick club.
jordan holmes
So is that the point?
dan friesen
I think it was.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I guess that actually, that reset is kind of getting back to what he was saying, like with Bill Gates flaunting and bragging in your face about how he's experimenting on you.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
So that actually is a coming back to the point.
But I think that this Jonas Salk thing, Alex is like, ah, fuck, I don't remember enough of the details about this, but I'm going to rant on it, and then I'm going to say it's really hard to find, and then I'm going to say I can't remember the name of the deputy, but I'm going to then say that it was on Boston PBS, That was WGN, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's wanting them to confirm that that is the name of the Boston PBS station.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because then he can say, look at my memory.
jordan holmes
Confirms everything.
If I get one thing, I get everything.
dan friesen
You can see him just desperately dancing for the way to get out of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's doing psychic shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Just my memory about what the name of the Boston PBS channel is.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Yeah.
Oh.
Your grandfather wore shoes, didn't he?
Nah, nah.
That's exactly what he told me.
He told me he loved wearing shoes.
dan friesen
People are a sick group of killers.
jordan holmes
I wonder, because I think this is something that I would be interested in knowing.
Can you truly be evil and still have a good maniacal laugh?
Because I think I genuinely associate actual, like, real evil with an inability to truly get in there and have a grand old laugh.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think I've ever seen an actual evil, maniacal laugh.
dan friesen
Do you think it would be like, hee-hee-hee?
jordan holmes
No, I mean, like, you know, Alex's maniacal, that traditional, you know, the Faust laugh.
That kind of thing, you know?
It's one thing I've ever heard one of those.
dan friesen
It's also WGBH.
jordan holmes
WGBH?
dan friesen
So his memory was not correct.
jordan holmes
The Boston Mind.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex, this group of evil folks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There are people like Bill Gates.
And here's Alex talking a bit more about this clip from a podcast that he didn't listen to.
alex jones
It's not the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
It's the Bill and Melinda Gates Population Control Foundation.
Look it up in its original.
Court documents when they created it in, what, 1999?
And who's his dad, the former head of Planned Parenthood, another famous eugenicist?
So here's Bill Gates saying, we don't even know what these shots do.
We just shoot it right in the vein of the kids.
Here it is.
unidentified
Is there something to worry about with medicines?
bill gates
That is, might some of them have side effects?
unidentified
Do we need safety testing?
bill gates
I mean, we're taking things that are, you know...
We're genetically modified organisms, and we're injecting them in the little kid's arms.
dan friesen
We just shoot them right into the vein.
alex jones
So we're taking things we don't know what they do, like you do a lab rat, a guinea pig, and we're just shooting around their arms.
So then he just did a podcast two days ago.
It hit megaviral last night, top of X, top of everywhere.
My phone blowing up.
I'm like, oh, yeah.
I have trouble doing this voice.
Yeah, I'm sure.
You know, nerd voice.
dan friesen
I would like to submit to you a theory, which is that the success of Infowars and Alex's content model has made it infinitely more difficult for serious alternative outside of corporate channel media to exist.
He's so bad at conveying information and so brazen of a liar that his continued ability to survive will always be a blight on anyone trying to do something serious in this independent space.
When people think of, quote, alternative media, it's impossible not to think of Alex.
And by extension, you think of what a total idiot he is and how he lies all the time and how it's embarrassing.
And it's because there's no standards.
What Alex just did in that clip would get him fired from any legitimate news outlet.
He's played that clip of Gates before and he has every reason to know that he's taking that entirely out of context.
He's playing the clip to imply that Gates was bragging about shooting kids up with mystery vaccines but it's just edited to sound that way.
We've talked about this in the past on an episode but Gates was advocating for more testing around GMO crops, something that Alex is supposed to support.
He's taken that clip that he should agree with and selectively edited it so it appears to say something Gates didn't say just so he can disagree with him and lie about Gates' position.
Right after the part that Alex plays, Gates says, quote, so yeah, I think maybe we should have a safety system where we do trials and test things.
This was a lie the first time Alex played the clip, whatever episode that was on, but he had the benefit then, the benefit of the doubt, of having made a mistake.
He could issue a retraction and not play this fraudulent clip in the future, but instead, he's just continuing to use it to lie.
In any workplace that values integrity or accurate work, he would be fired on the spot.
And then Alex claims that this podcast that Gates was on where he talks about India dropped two days ago.
It came out on October 30th, but it only gained traction among right-wing dipshit Twitter users two days ago.
Alex is lying about basic information about the podcast to obscure from his audience that he's not reporting on actual news or even this podcast interview.
His only real source is anonymous idiots on Twitter.
That's the only thing that he's reflecting back.
Alex is a follower, and he's just telling you what the cool kids on Twitter are mad about, but he desperately wants to pretend that he's the leader of this information space, and it's a pathetic charade.
It's all nonsense.
Also, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was originally called the William H. Gates Foundation.
You might be surprised that this traces back his incorrect information that he gave in there.
It traces back to a short out-of-context video clip that was viral on dipshit Twitter a little while back.
jordan holmes
Well, there you go.
dan friesen
So what happened here is that a person doing an introduction for Dr. Lori Schwab Zabin, who was giving a speech at Vassar, accidentally listed off one of her credits as being the founding director of the Institute for Population Control.
Zabin later corrects this and says it's the Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.
But that part isn't included in the clip that Alex saw on Twitter.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
Also, the social media claims were just wrong that this was the original name of the Gates Foundation.
The Gates Foundation, then the William H. Gates Foundation, founded this institute that they're talking about at Johns Hopkins in 1999, which was miscommunicated by these idiots on Twitter, which is what Alex is now repeating to the audience as if it's something that he knows from researching business filings.
This is a pathetic...
Again, it's all just Twitter shit being misrepresented.
jordan holmes
That makes even less sense.
If you stop and remember that three times as many people died in the 1990s, why would, after ten years of three times as many people dying as normal, would you set up a population control foundation?
Already done, man!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You gotta be thinking it's time for, we need more population!
dan friesen
Yeah, and then there's another interesting, difficult question, if you take his line seriously, that is like the, okay, the SB-40 was in, no, UB40 is the band.
SV40 is the virus.
Right.
SV40 was in the polio vaccine until 1963.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So why are cancer rates higher now than they were then, when everybody's being injected with...
jordan holmes
Cell phones.
dan friesen
Okay, cool, man.
Great.
jordan holmes
That's what I've got.
So, folks!
dan friesen
I mean, that's probably as good of an explanation as you have.
jordan holmes
Also, why not just straight up, if you're going to call it the population control, just be like...
The William H. Gates, we're going to kill your family foundation.
Just fucking, just go.
If you're going to throw population control in there, there's no way for you to put that in and not know that people are going to take that the wrong way.
dan friesen
Yes, if you're cartoon villains like Alex is pretending they are, there's no reason not to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the reason that the right-wing shithead idiots on Twitter have chosen the Institute of Population Control is because that's what this person introducing a speaker accidentally said.
I don't know what it is.
jordan holmes
Like, the idea that there is a single mind...
But not a single mind that's spread out, that finds these things for itself, if that makes sense.
You know what I'm saying?
It is not just that a person went and saw this clip and then shared it.
It is that the collective needed that clip at that time and found it and gave it to itself.
dan friesen
Well, let me tell you this.
I don't know what theory you're talking about.
I don't know enough about it.
But I will say that we didn't need it.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Alex certainly profits a lot off the collective mind on Twitter finding bullshit, but we don't need it.
jordan holmes
It is sometimes just one of those, like, no one will ever be able to adequately explain it because it feels like it shouldn't happen.
Just that, like, some guy, some dipshit finds this clip and he's like, oh, he misspoke.
And then two days later, it's across the world, you know?
There's no way to explain that in a satisfying way to me.
Other than, like, to...
No, it's satisfying if you're like, it's actually magic.
That is satisfying.
It's more satisfying than, isn't life weird?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, like, I feel like this is going to sound terrible, and I don't know how I feel about it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I feel like when I was a kid, like...
The stuff that you'd see online, the memes and shit were like the monkey peeing in his own mouth.
jordan holmes
Sure, I remember that.
And you would laugh and laugh and laugh.
Because it was a monkey peeing in his own mouth.
dan friesen
But now everything is so much worse.
jordan holmes
It's escalation, man.
I'm telling you.
It's just a broken evolutionary brain.
dan friesen
I miss the innocent old days of a monkey peeing in his own mouth.
unidentified
Anyway, we got...
jordan holmes
Those halcyon days of monkey pee mouth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So you have one last clip here, and it's Alex just kind of ranting about bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, having fun.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I wouldn't attest to this being fun.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's not fun?
dan friesen
It's not fun.
Okay.
It's killing time.
He's killing time.
jordan holmes
God damn.
alex jones
And now there's thousands of prestigious studies, including by Oxford and Harvard.
New ones came out last week.
Confirming everyone getting the turbo cancers and the blood clots and the myocarditis and the heart attacks, including children, had the shot in the government database, just like the New Zealand database that came out earlier this year showing the same damn thing.
The only reason we know is New Zealand's small enough that one man, and they confirmed he did it, he came on the show, he's still facing years in prison, deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.
We're battling medical tyranny.
He was the only guy in the country that could see the hospital databases, the government databases, and the so-called vaccine database.
He integrated them together and published it, but blocked out the names.
And everyone having the strokes and heart attacks and turbo cancers was the people taking the shots.
And now you got Oxford, and now you got Harvard last week.
And I'll show you those articles and studies again.
So, I mean, this is premeditated.
And I know most of you know that.
But let that sink in.
I shot a video yesterday because I was hiking in the early morning.
And I literally saw a woman with a nose ring and purple hair.
jordan holmes
There was a VHS on the ground.
And I went, boom!
alex jones
And their weird dog.
The dogs are neurotic like them.
And they see me walking down this path.
And the woman goes, oh!
And they go, oh!
And they look at me when I walk by.
And then the guy I was hiking with, Sean said, man, we ought to get that on tape.
And I said, well, let's just reenact it.
Have me shoot a video walking by you and say, what do you do when you're a purple-haired woman with a nose ring on your 12th booster and you see Alex Jones?
It's got millions of views, people.
And then there's leftists in there saying, I'd kick your ass.
I'd take my 15th booster.
I mean, they love it.
They enjoy it.
They literally think Bill Gates and Pfizer and Klaus Schwab and King Charles, who literally want them dead, is their daddy.
dan friesen
So you know, it's interesting.
I've never heard anyone say that Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab is their daddy, but...
Tucker Carlson has repeatedly compared Trump to his daddy in public speeches in, like, the last couple months.
jordan holmes
To all our daddies.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The only people who I see infantilizing themselves to be parented by their leaders are Alex's friends.
Like, they're the ones doing this.
I don't think this alleged purple-haired liberal that he ran into in the woods with a fucking liberal dog, I don't feel like they're like, oh, I love Klaus Schwab, he's my dad.
That's you, man.
jordan holmes
I mean, I can't think of many situations that are more similar to seeing Sasquatch in real life, though.
So I think any reaction is appropriate.
For a real person.
I don't know about the story.
dan friesen
I almost threw up when I saw Alex in the deposition room and I knew he was coming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Popping out of the woods?
Unacceptable.
Unacceptable for you to be popping out of the woods.
Wear a bell, man.
There's no way people should not know you are coming.
dan friesen
People should be like, I don't know.
50 yards in front of you yelling, Alex Jones coming!
jordan holmes
At the very least, we should all have an app that tells us where Alex Jones is at any given point in time.
dan friesen
I understand that it's an encroachment of personal liberties and stuff.
It's for our safety.
jordan holmes
It's just for all of us.
dan friesen
It's a compromise we need to make.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because you're never ready to see him.
jordan holmes
Never!
There's no situation where you're like, oh, thank God.
No!
Absolutely not!
dan friesen
So also, all that COVID stuff he's saying just isn't true, and we talked about that new Oxford study he mentions in our last episode.
He's not covering any of these studies or stories at all.
He's just covering memes about them that he's seen on social media because Alex is a lazy liar.
Also, that guy in New Zealand is a man named Barry Young who absolutely did not anonymize the data he released to dipshit sub-stack poster Steve Kirsch.
Young stole data from Health New Zealand that did not show what Alex is claiming, but became active in disseminating and creating that narrative.
And in the process, he released a fair amount of this private medical information to noted lunatic Steve Kirsch.
Seems like Alex had a fun walk through the woods, though, and I...
I'm glad we got to hear about it.
jordan holmes
That's good stuff.
dan friesen
I'm glad he got a lot of views on the recreation of what seemed like a boring encounter.
jordan holmes
Him telling that story is sad.
The idea of doing it is even sadder.
dan friesen
It's such a bummer to imagine walking around and trying to enjoy a nature walk and then having a boring encounter with somebody and thinking we should recreate that for content.
Like, how sad is your fucking life?
Take a walk.
Enjoy your walk.
jordan holmes
You know, I think, in general, I think it would be better for Alex, in all honesty, to just have a date that Infowars ends.
Somebody just imposed that upon him.
Because this is stupid.
dan friesen
And it has to be December 7th, a day that will live in infamy.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
It's perfect.
jordan holmes
I'll take that.
Yeah.
But it has to be like something, because he doesn't want to be doing this.
dan friesen
No, his heart's not in this.
jordan holmes
His heart's not in it!
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Why is everybody making me do this is something I feel like he's thinking, as though we're all collectively forcing him to do this trash.
dan friesen
Yeah, it has an energy that is like...
We've already got a fair amount of money over to the other shit, and I'm just hanging out here because I'm not leaving.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just tell me to go, and I will go.
I have no reason to be here anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I have to keep flailing and stuff, but we just need to move on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We have all fundamentally misunderstood the contract that I have.
dan friesen
But now, honestly, there's an interesting space that exists where it almost feels like Alex having to continue doing Infowars might end up hurting his ability to start these other things.
jordan holmes
I mean, at a certain point, whenever you're trapping somebody in purgatory, it's never a good thing.
Even for you.
dan friesen
Yeah, because I think the longer that nothing changes when he has said everything's changing and everybody go over to this new thing that I've started, I think the longer that you have that, nothing change.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why would I go over there?
dan friesen
You might have diminishing returns.
jordan holmes
Once you're in Purgatorio, it's tough to get out.
dan friesen
Right.
But we'll see what happens with him next time.
See if he's...
Treading water and hanging out, floating through the ether.
jordan holmes
I like ether.
dan friesen
Sure.
You like ether?
jordan holmes
That's the type of acid.
dan friesen
Yeah, second most deadly.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
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