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Dec. 9, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#987: December 4, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to enjoy some high quality time wasting from Alex, some predictions about false flags, as well as some top notch AI videos.

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alex jones
15:30
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dan friesen
39:28
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jordan holmes
19:08
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anthony fauci
01:04
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about...
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is my wife.
My wife is my bright spot.
So, I will tell you why.
dan friesen
Wife guy, Jordan.
jordan holmes
I'm going to tell you why.
She plots for my happiness at all times.
So, I don't know, maybe two years ago, we had a beanbag, and we had to get rid of it for, I suppose, adult reasons.
Whatever it was she told me was the truth.
And so we got a couch.
dan friesen
A beanbag couch.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
Just like an adult person couch that sits people, but I don't, I just, it's not a couch for me.
We can't both sit on it.
It's just not the way I sit.
So for about a couple of years, I've been sitting on the floor.
Right?
Because that's just.
dan friesen
I think everybody who listens to this show probably assumed that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I've been sitting on the floor.
And I was having a great day Saturday, and she tricked me into going to, going out of business, furniture sale thing.
dan friesen
I was going to say she tricked you into going.
Going to the vet.
jordan holmes
No, no.
Well, maybe.
Going out of business sale.
Everything must go.
Furniture.
Got a chair.
Straight up chair.
Good chair for super cheap.
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
Had such a good experience.
It took as long as it normally takes me to buy something, which is we walked in and I was like that one and then we walked out.
It was great.
It was just a delightful experience.
dan friesen
So now you've got a chair.
jordan holmes
No, it'll be delivered someday.
dan friesen
Oh.
So you're still sitting on the floor?
jordan holmes
Well, I'll be sitting on the floor for a while.
It takes me two years of sitting on the floor to earn the chair.
That's what I feel like.
I feel like in order to appreciate the chair, I need to spend two years on the floor.
dan friesen
Sure.
That makes sense.
Deprivation provides enjoying the thing.
jordan holmes
Are you cold?
Stand outside.
Come back in.
You'll feel a lot warmer.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
How about you?
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
I guess it's not so much a bright spot as a character consistency moment.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I still don't have a good coat.
jordan holmes
Do you still have the same one?
dan friesen
Well, no.
I threw away my old coat that had a tear in the back.
jordan holmes
Oh, I recall that coat.
dan friesen
Yeah, that coat that I didn't realize had a tear in the back for probably a year.
jordan holmes
I don't know why, but I assumed you knew, so I never told you.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Yep, that's how things don't get noticed.
Because it's on my back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, you know, what it is, what it is.
dan friesen
So then I got a cheap coat, just sort of as a fill-in.
And it's pretty good in terms of breaking some wind and what have you, but it is not good when it's like five degrees out.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, not that kind of coat.
dan friesen
I still need to, I'm sort of using this bright spot to make a note for myself.
jordan holmes
I like that.
dan friesen
That I need to get a coat.
jordan holmes
I like that.
So, you know, when I want to remember something or like see or something, I write it down.
You listen back to these when you're editing it, so this is like a reminder to you.
You're giving yourself voice memos through the show!
dan friesen
But the irony is that someone...
I'd done this before, and that someone sent in as a bright spot trying to remind me to buy a coat, and I still have not done it.
jordan holmes
Somebody set a note in their calendar to remind themselves to remind you to buy a coat.
dan friesen
There is like a mental block or something to me buying.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm saying.
You gotta become a wife guy.
You gotta get a wife.
I think we're doing a seven wives for seven brothers thing.
That's what we're doing next.
dan friesen
Is that how I get a coat?
jordan holmes
I'm assuming so.
That's how I get most of my stuff.
dan friesen
All right.
I guess I'm going to go force a marriage somehow.
jordan holmes
I think it's a good idea.
I think it's a good idea.
dan friesen
Really jump feet first into it so I can get a coat.
jordan holmes
There's TV shows you can jump on.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
All right.
That's what I'll be doing.
jordan holmes
TV shows.
dan friesen
So today we got an episode to go over, Jordan.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about December 4th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
2024.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
12-4-24.
jordan holmes
Wasn't there a thing that was supposed to happen on a 12-4 one time?
Maybe 12-4-12?
No, that was 12-12-12.
dan friesen
12...
jordan holmes
No, that was 12-21-12.
dan friesen
21-12 was the end of the world.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I always forget when the world ends.
dan friesen
December 7th was Pearl Harbor.
jordan holmes
Right, because we watched the episode of Time Tunnel.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we know that for sure.
jordan holmes
We know that for sure.
dan friesen
No, there was nothing super eventful that was supposed to happen on that day.
And nothing happens that's that eventful on Alex's show.
But we're going to talk about it anyway.
But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, just joined at the Wonk tier after months of listening so I can challenge Jordan to a first to five in sparkling zero.
Also love the content and listening as you guys debunk Mr. Jones.
Thank you so much.
You're now a Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, shout out from Joel to my sister Eve, the number one devil-worshipping, globalist-controlled evil mantis in my heart.
Thank you so much.
You're now a Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Joel.
I'm sorry I sold all your gyroids to pay rent.
That raccoon had my balls in a vice.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Is that a reference to something?
jordan holmes
Sometimes I feel like people just speak completely different languages using the same...
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
No clue what that means.
dan friesen
We got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Knowledge Fight kept me sane during my big, dumb unemployment arc.
And now that it's over, here's somebody.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And congratulations on the job.
So here we start off.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And Alex spends about the first hour of the show, probably, rambling.
jordan holmes
Just dicking around.
dan friesen
Well, no.
Aggressively ranting about how the globalists are trying to pre-program so they can do civil unrest and false flags and all this.
It's kind of exhausting.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I said they'll also try to pull the rug out from the economy, which they're doing, and I've got that today.
But I also said the pre-programming is not clear.
It's 100% crystal.
So it's not my opinion that they are everywhere and they're intensifying it out of the blue with no evidence saying white supremacist armies are going to blow up the power grid working with Trump and the Russians.
And the FBI leads mentally ill people and then busts them in the process to create the illusion that's real.
Literally synthetic.
Completely manufactured.
And they're gonna kill migrants en masse once Tom Homan goes out and starts arresting the illegal alien smugglers and the rest of them.
And I told you you'd see the mayors and people say we're gonna physically resist them and they're gonna try to get civil unrest going.
So, if you're a regular listener, you're like, we already know this.
We've heard this a hundred times.
Well, we're not just here to know interesting information.
We're here as Paul Revere's.
That means you, the resistance, the populace, the American people, and others around the world.
Everybody's affected by this.
As goes America, so goes the world.
That they are 100%.
Planning mass attacks, mass shootings, bombings of illegal aliens as soon as Trump gets in.
They are 100% going to hit the power grid and blame Trump supporters.
They're already doing it.
They are 100% going to blow up a black, big black church or a black college.
And then they're going to have unrest burning down half the country.
And then when Trump tries to stop it, that's when they're going to kill him.
And then they're going to just trigger an ongoing civil war as the smokescreen for the political persecution and the shift of America to total totalitarianism.
Here's the good news, though.
We've got their plan.
We're going to stop it.
jordan holmes
Good news.
alex jones
If you raise the alarm, it's up to you.
dan friesen
Debatably, that's great news.
jordan holmes
I'm stoked!
dan friesen
Sure.
So we talk about this a bit, but the dynamic here is that Alex knows that people on his side of the fence are not going to be satisfied with whatever Tom Homan does in terms of deportations, and there's a pretty decent chance they'll feel entitled to take matters into their own hands a little bit.
Vigilantism makes sense when you're fighting against human traffickers trying to invade the country, and these people would have good reason to believe that Trump would pardon them for any crimes they might commit in the process of protecting the United States.
That's all fine, and Alex's entire goal here is just to protect his business from the possible association he could end up having with someone who kills a bunch of Hispanic people.
What I'm confused about, though, is how this doesn't connect with the shooting of Brian Thompson, the UnitedHealthcare CEO.
At about 6.45 the morning of this episode, a guy who was dressed in what Alex would describe as an Antifa uniform shot and killed the CEO of UnitedHealthcare and then just disappeared.
The shooter had written a message on the bullet casings that made it very clear that this was a targeted killing inspired by UHC's practice of avoiding paying out claims for insurance.
In the aftermath of the shooting, which was caught on surveillance video, people on social media from all sides of the political spectrum clowned on the CEO who had just been killed.
I'm sure that reaction wasn't universal, but it was far more broad than I've seen in the past.
There was very little concern for this crime having been committed because on some visceral level, a ton of people felt like this was basically a justified act.
This insurance company made a practice of trying as hard as they could to not pay for people's treatments in the pursuit of maximizing profits.
In effect, they valued money over the preservation of human life, which has real-life consequences.
Everyone knows the experience of being denied by their insurance company or has a loved one who has, and a lot of folks aren't too distantly connected to people who may have died or had their lives ruined by debt because of the decisions made by disconnected, profit-driven CEOs.
And thus, a lot of otherwise empathetic and decent people were entirely willing to shrug when one of these CEOs was killed on the street.
It wasn't that they condoned murder.
It was that they couldn't be bothered to care.
I have a pretty standard policy of not celebrating death, even with bad people.
I think it's bad for you as a practice, and it grows out of a place that isn't super productive.
But I also want to stress that I'm not going to judge people for engaging in it.
There's a catharsis you get, and mocking something like this is meant to be an act of defiance against a culture that you might feel is asking you to revere this CEO.
I don't want to go too far into the weeds with this, but it's important context that this was all over social media in the hours before Alex got on air this day.
If he's trying to spin some yarn about manufactured events meant to kick off social unrest, he's just had a meatball thrown right over home plate to him.
This could hardly be more primed for him to call it a PSYOP.
I mean, think about it.
There's a Robin Hood-type mystery assassin killing a healthcare CEO, an act that many people experienced as a who-cares level event.
The public support for the killer is surprisingly high, in a way that Alex should think is going to cause him to become a symbol like the Joker.
This is exactly the sort of thing that he should think the globalists would do in order to foment civil war.
And yet he's not bringing this up when he's talking about civil unrest.
It's all these fantasies about race war and all this stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah!
Who was the, so, uh, the, the, what was it?
It's not Amelie.
No.
dan friesen
That was the French movie.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It was the, the Russian, uh, the daughter, the long lost daughter of the Romanovs, right?
There we go.
We get another one of those in about 30 years.
That's what I'm saying.
You gotta look at the bright side of things.
dan friesen
Are you sure it wasn't Amelie?
jordan holmes
I'm not.
I'm genuinely not now.
I don't know for sure.
I don't know for sure.
dan friesen
You should go re-watch that movie.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I should.
dan friesen
So there's a reason that Alex is engaging with this in this way and not getting into this.
It's an uncomfortable area of his ideology that he probably knows he can't square.
His fake appeal to populism demands that he support the shooter, but his true beliefs demand that he support the CEO.
If he supports the shooter, or even just doesn't freak out about the killing, he loses a lot of credibility on the subject of law and order, and how much he's so concerned about migrant crime and all this.
This was a CEO being murdered on the street.
He's lost his mind when non-white people have done far less.
I mean, you know...
jordan holmes
I suppose, ironically, for him to bring it front and center would be him doing what the globalists he despises imaginarily are doing.
So he has to pretend it didn't even happen.
dan friesen
Okay, so now let me ask you this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Is pretending it didn't happen a tactic in the information war?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Disinformation is important for both enemies and allies, according to Sun Tzu.
dan friesen
This isn't either of those things.
This is nothing.
This is talking about something that...
Desperately feels like it should connect to a news item.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Ignoring it entirely.
This is a disinformation or misinformation.
jordan holmes
The general doesn't need to share troop movements with the ground troops, man.
Sometimes that's a detriment to the overall strategy.
dan friesen
I understand.
jordan holmes
Sometimes they just gotta not know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I guess if there is no good answer and any angle you take on it would kind of hurt.
jordan holmes
And in the world we live in, next week nobody's going to remember, so it'll be fine.
dan friesen
There's a decent chance.
I thought that was glaring.
I just thought, like...
Okay, he's got to cover this.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that's right there.
dan friesen
First of all, it's someone being murdered on the street, on surveillance camera, CEO of a health insurance company.
The guy clearly is making a statement about health insurance and the industry as a whole.
There's political ramifications of this act in a major way.
So you'd think that a political news show would cover it.
But then I also know that Alex's show is just a shithead who talks about stuff that's on social media.
This was all over social media.
This was all everyone was talking about.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'd think that based on that alone he would be into this, but he seems resistant.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
You start saying people should be mad at rich people.
What next?
They find out how rich you are?
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
That's trouble.
dan friesen
Instead, let's just talk about fantasies about migrant violence.
jordan holmes
It does feel like he's feeling pretty negative, though, about not being able to talk about it.
I mean, this is a...
Tragic, Alex doesn't feel good story of the future.
dan friesen
It's true.
But he did say that they have the...
jordan holmes
Oh, they were going to stop it.
dan friesen
They could.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
If you promote him enough.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Now they're all over the news.
And I'll go over it in a moment.
unidentified
Saying...
alex jones
He's going to use the military to attack the people.
He's going to kill the migrants.
He's going to kill the black people with no evidence.
His supporters working with Putin are going to knock out the electrical grid.
And we keep...
Catching the feds, literally running mentally ill people they recruit online who think they're in some type of Nordic cult.
And then they're commanded to go out and try to blow up power stations.
Every week they're busting another group to create the chatter and say, see, we stopped all these, but oh, we couldn't stop the big one.
And they've pre-programmed that the cyber attack will make COVID look like a minor inconvenience.
And so Putin, with Trump, with the white supremacists, knocks the power out in different areas.
The left's uprising.
There's a mass attack on a migrant demonstration in Denver or New York or wherever, Chicago.
Somebody shoots a couple hundred people.
They find the patsy.
He's dead, though.
He's a Trump supporter.
He gets off five magazines into the crowd of men, women, children.
Little two-year-old Paco gets shot in the face.
You see his face everywhere.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ, man.
alex jones
The Pentagon, two days after Trump won the election, put out publicly that Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and the other military leadership...
The civilian and military leadership at the Pentagon were meeting on how to stop Trump giving illegal orders and martial law.
See, they're going to provide the crises, and then when Trump gives the orders, then they have the military coup.
And you've seen the movie Civil War, where the military comes and the Secret Service doesn't desert the president, well, the military just kills them too.
So they've all scripted it.
It's all right there.
dan friesen
It's all right there.
You've just got to watch that movie Civil War and you'll be able to predict the future.
Maybe we should watch that movie.
jordan holmes
I have a question.
dan friesen
Do you want to watch that movie?
jordan holmes
No.
I saw it.
Not that great.
Should I be more worried about Nordic cults?
Because I haven't been hearing a lot about Woden recently.
And I don't know, should I be more concerned?
dan friesen
There's an overlap with some white supremacist groups.
jordan holmes
Sure, no, I understand that.
dan friesen
That's what he's signaling to.
jordan holmes
No, no, for sure.
I'm just not hearing about it recently.
I remember early thousands.
I feel like there was a lot of metal bands who were killing each other.
For metal reasons.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I don't know about too many Nordic cults these days.
dan friesen
Maybe it's a little bit less...
I mean, metal's not as big as it once was.
jordan holmes
Sure, it's a little more niche.
dan friesen
That could be part of why you're seeing less.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe people are underplaying their Nordic cultness.
I think that might be possible!
But look, I mean, like, these attacks on the power grid type stuff, they happen.
Sure.
It's a real thing that happens.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It predates any of the Trump shit.
It's just increasing in prevalence lately.
jordan holmes
It doesn't predate Woden, though.
dan friesen
I don't know what does.
jordan holmes
That is the ultimate question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So basically this whole first hour of his show is just...
Protracted, screaming and rambling about how the plan is.
The globalists are going to kill a bunch of immigrants or maybe migrant right protesters or bomb a black church or something like this.
And then that is going to force Trump's hand into calling out the military in order to suppress this rebellion or whatever.
And then that will prompt the people to do a coup on Trump because he's becoming a dictator.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's really what the storyline is through this.
jordan holmes
Based on our...
I mean, we've been doing this for quite some time now.
I think the quota for exploded black churches at this point has to be just out of control, and yet I have not seen exploded...
I mean, maybe, again, I'm not paying attention.
dan friesen
You're saying that that didn't lead to calling in the military?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I just haven't seen...
He's predicted several hundred...
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Black church has exploded by now.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems to be we're in a state of that constantly happening.
Yeah.
I don't know, but in terms of political intrigue, I think that this is a little bit better scripted for Alex than Obama is going to turn the U.S. into a caliphate and all of the senators will become dukes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's a little better than that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In terms of just from your writing standpoint.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
But it is stupid.
jordan holmes
Less fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is fun, though.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This next clip I thought was just really silly.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And they can still kill Trump now.
They can still blow up his plane with a server-server missile now.
Believe me, they're trying.
They can still poison Trump now.
But then he becomes a martyr, and you get J.D. Vance, and they're still going to try.
But I don't think they'll succeed.
dan friesen
Why are they still going to try?
jordan holmes
That makes no sense.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Their heart's not in it.
They don't actually want the end goal of doing the thing, but they're still going to do it.
jordan holmes
Why?
Is there like, oh, well, we don't want to disappoint our kids.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They're just really into it.
Honestly, it's bad for business, but they've been hounding me.
dan friesen
We're pot committed to killing Trump, so we don't like what's going to happen, but we just got to put our chips in there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so here's the thing from the writing standpoint.
Here's the thing from the writing standpoint, though, is that...
If your bad guy is planning to surface-to-air missile, you can't already have that bad guy have access to surface-to-air missiles.
It has to be like the reason they're going to try.
The try part is like a ragtag band gets access to it for like five seconds and then fires.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
They can't be like...
Oh, I'm sorry, we're just making a phone call, but I'm out in the woods, I'm on a retreat, so we'll try and kill him when I make a phone call when I get back next week, you know?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
How about this too, you dipshit?
Like, not you, Alex.
jordan holmes
No, it's fair.
dan friesen
Democrats and the globalists and all of them are in control of the government right now.
Why don't they coup themselves?
jordan holmes
Right now!
It's easier!
It's easier!
And we would all believe Biden died of natural causes in a heartbeat!
unidentified
Right, but there's, like, why would you wait?
jordan holmes
And then I don't win my bet that there would be a female president!
dan friesen
I just, I think it's so dumb and so desperate to keep things kind of, like, seeming interesting.
This idea that, like, They still might kill Trump.
They don't really want to.
They're kind of noncommittal about it, but...
jordan holmes
They gotta try.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's bananas.
dan friesen
Really dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has a really long rant that he does about this false flag idea that he has, and I thought this really summed it up well.
alex jones
The Pentagon's meeting.
This is illegal.
You guys are planning a coup, and when Trump responds to your blue state uprising coup and civil war and secession, which John Podesta's called for, is an official plan.
You're going to call the response to your illegal operation a coup.
You guys are planning an uprising like the mayor of Denver.
unidentified
Boom!
alex jones
You're done!
Whoa.
Alright, we're going to start the next hour.
I'm done talking about this.
You've got your warning.
It's up to you now to share this hour and get it out.
Your future hangs in the balance.
So does mine.
Big time.
These people want to break your will and totally enslave you.
Listen.
I make it easy to support this broadcast.
jordan holmes
Here it is!
Come on, baby!
alex jones
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But so many of you never go to the AlexShowStore.com and get great patron apparel.
dan friesen
That's a tragedy.
So this was at the end of a very long rant where Alex was arguing that the media is talking about the danger of Trump using the military as a domestic police force because they had a script that the globalists had given them, which was meant to create false uproats.
memorizing that Trump would need to use the military to suppress, thereby trapping him into using the military as a domestic police force.
Ultimately, it seems like Alex's thinking is that it's a foregone conclusion that Trump will be using the military as a domestic police force.
He's just deeply invested in justifying it.
It's like he's totally fine with everything he's supposed to be against, so long as it's being done in response to something he can say is fake.
I was thinking about what he's doing and what the end goal of it could be, and I can only really come up with one thing that he might be working toward.
The whole conception he has is that the globalists are going to false flag kill a bunch of immigrants or pro-immigration protesters, which is going to be the pretense that Trump will be pressured into using to bring the military out domestically.
So what does Alex want?
In his scenario, one way or another, there's going to be this horrific event, whether it's a false flag or not.
So his purposes aren't really served by encouraging more people to carry out attacks.
But his goal also can't be to stop this attack, because that's not even something he has the power to do.
He thinks that the globalist team is the one planning that, so even if 100% of Alex's audience doesn't get violent, it's still gonna happen.
He can't be preaching restraint because that has no bearing on whether or not this happens.
What Alex is trying to achieve is making the average person not care about atrocities that are carried out against marginalized groups.
The aim is to override the natural human instinct to care when you see people being hurt.
If the problem is that Trump will overreact when the globalists'false flag kill a bunch,
The goal is more accurately to shift the direction of blame that could be given in the event of such a tragedy happening to places that are And that is the game that he's playing here with all of
this.
He doesn't give a shit about the notion of Trump using the military as a police force.
He doesn't give a shit about the notion of...
You know, potential white supremacist Nordic cults killing migrants?
jordan holmes
I mean, I think you're right.
But at the same time, it's strange because, you know, it's like, you know, not that long ago we had the Muslim ban and the Supreme Court upheld most of that.
So Trump, if he wants to do the, you know, no immigrants thing, I'm sorry, but the Supreme Court hasn't become more interested in the Constitution since that time period.
So it feels like he's got a playbook that doesn't actually apply to the circumstances.
Sort of.
It's kind of like you got a clean slate.
You know, you got a clean sweep.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, you're gonna get what you want, so why...
dan friesen
There is very little institutional power that people have to oppose whatever Trump might want to do at this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's really no reason to cause a ruckus.
dan friesen
Well, there's a reason to cause a ruckus.
jordan holmes
Sure, there's always a reason to cause a ruckus.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
And I think that that's sort of also behind a little of what Alex is saying, is that, like, there isn't, like...
Some court thing that he's afraid of.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Probably there's protests that are the biggest threat to them right now.
jordan holmes
I mean, I suppose, yeah.
Yeah, it's almost like he's...
Yeah.
Yeah, I just...
I don't understand, you know?
I think everybody's got to realign on...
dan friesen
He wants to create cover for people who might terrorize and kill protesters.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that's something that he's, you know...
He's in, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, at this point, Alex played a little video.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I just can't handle it, but I'm going to play it for you.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm going to play a bit of it for you.
All right.
This is a Harry Potter AI video of Alex and Trump.
Alex is Hagrid, and Trump is Harry Potter.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
When do you just go like, oh, the Truman Show is real, regardless of whether it is or not?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't even need to know anymore.
dan friesen
We're getting closer.
We're getting closer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just going to live as though everybody is watching a TV show of my life, and that makes sense of all of this, right?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's some language that'll be in these videos that isn't great, and...
jordan holmes
Sure, I imagine not.
dan friesen
I apologize in advance, but I didn't make the video, and Alex is airing it.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So here's where we start.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
You must be mistaken, kind sir.
I'm just a regular guy.
alex jones
Bullshit.
You're a wizard, Donnie.
unidentified
Oh, God.
Jones Grid, I don't want this to come off too autistic, but I just get the sense that you're a really good guy.
alex jones
Well, thanks for saying that, Donnie.
Anywho, you know how your parents are dead?
If we don't step up...
Everybody, everyone is going to have dead parents.
unidentified
That makes me upset, Jones Grit, in a huge way, actually.
What do we do?
Let's go get you some school supplies.
These don't seem like regular school supplies.
alex jones
Oh yeah, that's because you're not going to a regular school.
unidentified
Welcome to Tism Heart.
I am Professor Muskeldor.
Fun fact about me, I'm angry about the way things are going in the world.
dan friesen
This is...
A real bummer.
So, Musk is introduced as Dumbledore there, and then the video becomes his picture on the front page of a newspaper with the headline, questioning if he's evil.
Then it zooms in on an article with the headline, quote, is your owl gay?
Which reads, quote, potentially, it's complicated.
Here are ten surefire ways to create a safe environment for you and your gay owl.
This was written by someone with a really subtle pen name of Lezzy Lessington.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Here, there's another headline titled, quote, Why Having a Family Isn't Okay.
The body of that article says, quote, In a world where we can barely keep our Wi-Fi connection stable, it's shocking that some people still think having a family is a good idea.
I mean, in the grand scheme of things, is there anything more outdated, inconvenient, and downright unproductive than the concept of a family?
That was written by reporter Randy McChucklefuck.
And the main article, that is about whether or not Elon Muskledore is evil, was written by someone with the byline, quote, a concerned fat chick.
jordan holmes
Oh, well.
dan friesen
Lost some, losing some subtlety in this.
jordan holmes
I mean, uh...
dan friesen
So it's interesting, not because this really means anything, but because this is what passes for good satire in folks who are in Alex's audience.
They really feel like this is lampooning the news, because they think that outlets like the New York Times are just reporting on how the family is bad and how your owl might be gay.
This feels real to them, so these jokes don't seem sad and insane.
But even beyond that, I could see this video as being a satire itself attacking the Trump world.
The level of sycophantic adoration they have for people like Trump and Musk is a parody of itself.
And this video is made to revel in that adoration.
It's deeply pathetic.
And I would say the same thing about an identical video that was made about AOC or Harris.
It reveals an infantile way of thinking about the world and makes me very sad.
So of course we're going to hear some more of it.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
We're going to hear all of it.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
No.
It's more?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
But they beat the joke into the ground already.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
So, they, you know, Trump is a wizard, and Harry is, or Alex is Hagrid.
jordan holmes
All I'm hearing is that they're all one big dead horse already getting hit right now.
dan friesen
But we've got to meet some of the professors at the university.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Jesus Christ.
He better be one of them!
unidentified
But my passion is urging the school of fat kids.
They're disgusting, okay?
Class, who can tell me why Billington Gatesom and Anton Faucinius belong in Azkaban?
Happy holidays, Donnie.
It's pronounced Merry Christmas.
Semi-related.
Your father seems like he is on a first-name basis with the devil.
dan friesen
So RFK is Snape, and then that next voice that you hear is Liz Churchill, who's just a deranged Twitter user and not really relevant outside of that space at all.
And then that last exchange is Trump and Alexander Soros, who I guess is the Slytherin kid?
jordan holmes
Is that just the same?
It just stuck with the same name?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's Alexander Soros, but he has like a...
It's AI generators.
jordan holmes
No, no, I'm just saying everybody else kind of has a little pun name, you know.
dan friesen
No, I, okay, here...
It does not actually say his name.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay, sorry.
dan friesen
They flash up a Twitter handle.
jordan holmes
Gotcha, okay.
dan friesen
And so you know it's Liz Churchill.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
They don't actually have a...
jordan holmes
It's like a gamer tag while you're in a virtual space kind of thing, hanging up over your head.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay, I gotcha.
dan friesen
They don't have a name like Jones Grid.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Jesus Christ, what's the point of AI if it's not even coming up with a name for Alexander Soros?
That's not even hard.
Alexander Sorius Black, it's done.
I've already...
Done it!
It took two seconds!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
So now, in a moment of real meta situation, J.K. Rowling herself shows up within the parody world of Harry Potter.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
She's another professor.
unidentified
Pop quiz.
Trans women are...
Weaponized mentally ill men dressed like special needs tramps, Professor?
Correct.
75 points to Libertinium.
Boo!
dan friesen
So I guess Libertinium is one of the schools.
So this has gotten super meta because now J.K. Rowling is in a parody of her own work as the transphobia professor at Hogwarts, which if you missed it is called Tism Heart because they like to play around with autism.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Jesus!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You know, we have people like Elon Musk and a lot of those folks talking about, like, weaponized autism as the memes and stuff, and it's pretty gross.
jordan holmes
Okay, cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Cool, cool, cool, cool.
dan friesen
So the person who answers Rowling's question is someone who goes by the name TheRedHeadedLibertarian on Twitter.
I have no idea who she is, but I guess she works for or did work for Tim Pool in the past.
Good for her getting the nod to be in this stupid video.
jordan holmes
I mean, hey.
It's a who's who.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Which is what an owl would say about it.
dan friesen
Is that owl gay?
Maybe.
I got ten signs.
jordan holmes
I mean, who knows?
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who knows indeed.
jordan holmes
Do you need ten?
Whatever.
dan friesen
So Alex has a spell.
Okay.
This is where we finish off the video.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
They're using blood magic, but we've got spells they've never heard of, like 1776 of a Maxima.
That one melts Kami's faces off.
unidentified
Oh!
We're coming for you, Schwab de Morte.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
dan friesen
That's so embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
It's so funny that Klaus Schwab is Voldemort.
He doesn't even run the World Economic Forum anymore.
jordan holmes
He's unemployed, right?
dan friesen
They've over-invested in him as a villain, and now this just looks so dumb.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
dan friesen
This is childish nonsense, and the fact that Alex takes the time to play this on his show tells you all you need to know about how serious he is.
Essentially, this is supposed to be bait.
The best way that these shitheads can get traffic and attention is by fighting with people online.
The easiest way to do that is to say and do provocative shit that you know is going to incite a reaction, like calling the school Tism Heart and throwing in that chunk with Rowling and the transphobic.
This is meant to make people mad as a marketing strategy, which is a real bummer, but it also, in the process, reveals some pretty...
Infantile ways that they deal with issues.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's fun.
jordan holmes
Now, how about this, though?
It did give me an idea for a sequel to Red Dawn called Red Dawn vs.
Potter, where Harry Potter and co...
unidentified
Communists.
jordan holmes
Boom.
Wolverines, baby.
Now we've got magic.
dan friesen
Wolverines and wizards.
jordan holmes
We've got a spell that melts commies' faces.
It's not one of the forbidden curses.
They don't even know about it over there.
It writes itself from there.
dan friesen
I think we stop this podcast and get on it right now.
jordan holmes
I think it's what we gotta do.
dan friesen
So now, I'm sorry about this in advance.
Great.
But...
When I saw this video, it reminded me that I'd seen another video exactly like this on Alex's show in the past.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
It was an AI thing that was done by the same person.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
But it was about the X-Men.
jordan holmes
We need to get rid of AI.
dan friesen
And so now I'm going to play that for you.
jordan holmes
I never realized that, you know, when you watch The Matrix or AI or...
Uh, the robots movie.
iRobot.
You know, you're like, oh, AI is a threat for all the threatening reasons that it could be.
Wrong!
This is why we need to defeat AI.
Just this!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It doesn't need to take over the grid or anything like that.
This already justifies getting rid of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, and, uh...
I don't think you're going to revise that opinion as we go through this.
And I should tell you in advance, Elon Musk is Professor X and Trump is Wolverine.
jordan holmes
Great!
unidentified
Hey, Wills, what is this place?
It's a school for remarkable misfits, not unlike yourself, Donny J. Here we turn the autistic into leaders, patriots, and heroes.
Let me give you a tour.
You had me at autistic?
Lead the way, professor?
dan friesen
So this is a...
A bummer.
Sure.
But I think it's a great setup.
Because you now have the school for gifted youngsters.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And you can have all of these figures in the right-wing media who are the X-Men.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is great!
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's ripe for...
jordan holmes
Sure.
So I take it this person is not making satirical pieces.
This is sycophantic.
Nonsense.
dan friesen
That's the sense that I get.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't think it's...
I mean, I think it's supposed to be a joke in some ways, or at least expression of humor.
jordan holmes
Sure, I think there's a community that would make sense of this, right?
dan friesen
Yes.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Not us.
dan friesen
So, the first student that they come across, what do you know?
It's Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
What a surprise.
unidentified
We've gotten the best and brightest from around the world to combat the forces of darkness.
alex jones
Of Jubilee.
unidentified
Let me get a roll call already, you delightful cripple.
Take Alex, for example.
His power is identifying globalists.
alex jones
That's a globalist.
unidentified
Well done, Alex.
Impressive.
Show me more, you low-altitude genius.
dan friesen
So Beast's power wasn't identifying globalists, but Alex is clearly Beast.
Like, he's blue, and he has his shirt off.
I'm kind of splitting hairs, but there's no reason for him to have been blue and clearly Beast.
Beast's power isn't like, oh, I see this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Beast was just like a regular super genius, and then his mutation was the Beastie.
Part.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The Beastie Boy part.
Yes.
dan friesen
So in the video, there's a chalkboard with a stick figure with the name Soros above it, and then it cuts to Alex as Beast with his shirt off pointing to it saying, that's a globalist.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Just amazing stuff.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Solid work.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So there's a repeat appearance that I was kind of surprised by.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Here is the next student.
unidentified
This is Josie.
She's a constitutional scholar who isn't afraid to call people retards.
Very promising.
I don't find that uninspiring.
Totally.
dan friesen
Totally.
So this is the redheaded libertarian again, whose name is apparently Josie Glabach.
I don't think that she's a constitutional scholar, though.
That educational background seems absent from her bio wherever it's been posted, although when she wrote one article that was defending Robert Kraft, she said, "Oh, I'm sorry, I'm On The Federalist.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
She was credited as a, quote, neuromuscular therapist.
I'm going to guess that means that she did massage therapy, which is fine, but it's quite a leap from whatever her actual credentials are to constitutional scholar.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I guess it's cool that she likes to use hurtful language.
I guess that makes her pretty special.
I think she's supposed to be Jean Grey.
I think.
jordan holmes
Man, yeah, you know, you hear some of that and sometimes you just go, oh, you're one of those.
It's bait.
I'm not doing this.
dan friesen
They're trying to outrage people and be like, oh, isn't this edgy and offensive?
jordan holmes
We've been doing this for a while, buddy.
dan friesen
Calm down.
This is poorly crafted.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I thought it's pretty clear to me from my knowledge of the X-Men movies that Professor X is Musk, Wolverine, Trump.
Alex is Beast.
I think this Josie woman is Jean Grey.
She's sort of dressed Jean Grey-ish.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then everything just completely falls apart.
unidentified
Okay.
Then there's Joshua.
He's a future senator who currently teaches counter-propaganda.
His colleague Poso is impressive as well.
1-800-LEADERS.COM?
My goodness.
dan friesen
I'm just getting warmed up, Tonya J. So, Joshua is a guy named Joshua Lysick, who's a prominent ghostwriter.
He writes books that other right-wing dipshits like Jack Posobiec, or Poso, put their name on.
It's a perfect arrangement because no one's buying a book by random guy Josh, and someone like Posobiec is too famous and busy to write a fucking book, so they come together and they make magic.
Also, I have no idea who the two are supposed to be in terms of the X-Men.
If Josh was a future senator, then he should be Beast, since Beast was the politician of the crew, but they already wasted that on Alex...
He's just gonna be a future senator.
jordan holmes
He's just a good dude.
dan friesen
After this, there's a couple of AI shots meant to depict some Twitter accounts that I guess are cool.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
One of them is a frog, another is a super buff clown.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then there's a body language Twitter account guy, and then the guy, Dilbert, Scott Adams, the Dilbert guy.
jordan holmes
Is he Dilbert?
dan friesen
No, he's just Scott Adams, but muscular.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Yeah, they completely abandoned the premise of making these people look like X-Men.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's no good.
That's no good.
You gotta...
It's AI!
Stick it out through the end.
Is there a way to program AI to not fucking give up halfway through?
dan friesen
It's like AI.
It's not even conceivably that much harder for you to just follow through with the idea.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't one of the prompts be like, also don't fucking fizzle out?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I don't know, make one of the, make the fucking body language expert guy charge up a card with his hand.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Right.
Make Scott Adams multiply.
jordan holmes
There's no actual thematic resonance between these people and whatever character, so just choose them at random.
dan friesen
Exactly.
Alex doesn't need to be Beast.
I guess he kind of does because he's...
jordan holmes
He's a Beastie guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it makes sense one time.
dan friesen
Once.
jordan holmes
Which makes it even crazier that it's AI.
The whole idea is that it's supposed to be able to just go, oh, well, it makes sense every time.
dan friesen
Put the fucking Cyclops glasses on somebody.
It doesn't matter.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
No one really is invested in Scott Adams' face.
jordan holmes
I do not need the Terminator.
I need this to go away.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, there's only one more clip.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So you can enjoy the end of this X-Men.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
unidentified
Hey, who's that big fella over there?
That's barren.
He's only beginning to explore the depths of his power, but he's essential in the fight to come.
Against whom, exactly?
Me and the NPCs and perverts.
dan friesen
So I guess for the purposes of this video, Trump doesn't recognize his own son, which is cool.
unidentified
That's...
jordan holmes
That actually makes perfect sense.
That's the most realistic part of this video.
dan friesen
So when Elon says that the enemy is these NPCs, the video shows a bunch of faceless people marching, and then it cuts to two leprechauns holding hands.
jordan holmes
I like that.
dan friesen
And the Twitter handles of the Krasenstein brothers over their heads.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So the enemies that they have, these X-Men have, are the NPC army and the Krasenstein brothers as depicted as leprechauns.
jordan holmes
Right.
You know, I mean, I'm gonna say this.
Usually I would expect a lot more racism out of that.
I do like the inexplicable turn towards leprechauns.
I like that.
That's a delight.
dan friesen
Well, it's meant to insult them a little bit, but it's a fun game because the Krasensteins will only respond in ways that are productive and feed into the right-wing shitheads at the X-Men school's revenue streams.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they love that shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a push and pull between them.
jordan holmes
There's a symbiotic relationship.
dan friesen
And that's why they're a perfect people to be the enemies at the end.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but they're leprechauns, so I think we all know how seriously they take them as enemies.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
But you don't know, leprechauns can fucking pull some shit.
It's true.
Movies in the 70s.
dan friesen
It depends on which version of leprechauns we're talking about.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
They shrink you and grab you and put you underground.
I remember that from one of them.
dan friesen
Yep.
So we get back to the actual show, and Alex has a big revelation.
As you may know, Tucker Carlson has gone back to Russia.
Okay.
And he interviewed Sergei Lavrov.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The foreign minister.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
It's good stuff.
unidentified
Good.
dan friesen
We might talk about it later.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But Alex was apparently invited on this trip.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's fun.
alex jones
You know, got invited to be over there in Russia right now with Tucker and Tucker's folks.
And I just, a week ago, I said, I said, great job going over there trying to stop World War III.
Great job as a real journalist.
Totally support you.
You guys are amazing.
I'm going to cover their operations here for triggering martial law.
And I don't bring that up to name, drop a story or something that sounds important.
I mean, I get calls all the time by very prominent people that live here in Austin.
Hey, let's go out to dinner.
Let's go to the comedy club.
Hey, let's...
dan friesen
Rogan.
alex jones
And I'm just like, in the past, I'd do that some.
I'd just go, sorry, I can't do that.
I'm in a war.
And I'm literally going to be put in prison or killed if the bad guys win this round of the fight.
And America's going to be totally screwed in the world.
And we're going to be totally impoverished and live under absolute tyranny.
I just can't screw around any.
And I'm not saying, Tucker's screwing around.
That's the opposite.
What I'm saying is, I am literally every day saying, what is the most important thing to cover?
What is the most important thing I can do?
dan friesen
And then I just ramble about how I'm about to cover that thing and never really get to it.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's amazing.
It is a pattern.
dan friesen
It's so much more important than anything else in the world.
It's for me to kill time.
jordan holmes
It does feel like if you are going to describe something, you know, like if you want...
If your job description is just your job result, as opposed to what might be on your resume or on the Help Wanted ad, Alex's job is killing time, and he's amazing at it.
dan friesen
And it's inexcusable, I guess, from the standpoint of him being who he pretends to be to not go to Russia.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Insane that he wouldn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Tucker's the most important person in the world, and he's literally stopping World War III, and you don't want to be an active part of it when you're invited?
alex jones
I mean...
dan friesen
I don't believe this.
jordan holmes
I mean, also, I don't want to go to...
Like, I totally get it.
I don't want to go to...
dan friesen
Yeah, I wouldn't either.
jordan holmes
That's so far away, and...
Yeah, it's a mess.
dan friesen
I especially wouldn't want to be Alex Jones interviewing the foreign minister.
jordan holmes
Very dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fraught with peril.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, we're in a war.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex can't go with Rogan to the comedy club.
He can't hang out.
And he also can't hang out enough with his kids because he's in a war.
jordan holmes
Taker fishing, man.
dan friesen
He can't.
jordan holmes
He just can't.
alex jones
People ask me all the time, how are you doing, Alex?
I'm in total war.
Really?
Yeah, you know you're in a war, right?
You know you're in a war, right?
And it's a declared war.
The Globals have declared war on team humanity.
They've declared war on the God that made us.
The God.
jordan holmes
Nice.
alex jones
I'm about to go over all that in a moment.
dan friesen
Really?
alex jones
That?
jordan holmes
All of it?
alex jones
Again, it is not incredible.
It is not heroic.
It is not amazing to fight this.
It is survival.
This is the priority, people.
This is the priority.
This is the real world.
This is game time.
This is the crossroads of human destiny right now.
Right now.
I love getting home as early as I can with my seven-year-old daughter and playing board games with her and building a fire outside and putting up Christmas lights.
And I do spend a couple hours with her every day.
And I saw my other children, they're adult, moved out now yesterday, spent some time with them.
I spent three hours with my children yesterday.
One with my older children, two with my sweet little daughter.
But I have to not be with them because I've got to protect them.
Just like if I was a soldier away for a year in a war, you think those soldiers want to leave?
unidentified
They have to.
And I see a bunch of other people not realizing how desperate the situation is!
Sure.
alex jones
We need maximum urgency.
We're up against the most evil people the world's ever seen.
unidentified
Don't you understand that?
Don't you understand?
alex jones
Now, I know I see this all the time because I care about what you say, so I read when I'm on a jag, thousands of your comments on X every day on InfoWars.
But usually...
It's not exaggerated.
I probably read 500 comments today because I really care about what you're saying.
It helps me think.
And I see it everywhere.
unidentified
I see it everywhere.
alex jones
You know, his show is important and I know he knows what he's talking about, but God, it's depressing.
No, it's not.
dan friesen
Are you sure?
jordan holmes
Oh, it's depressing.
It's very depressing.
dan friesen
What were you just yelling about?
jordan holmes
That was one of the most depressing, not least of which because I just suddenly had a like...
When we started, I never thought we were going to see his kids off to college.
I did not imagine that was going to be a possibility.
dan friesen
That is true.
We have not paid any attention to them, but they have gotten older and good for them.
I'm sure they have a very uncomplicated relationship with the fact that their dad is Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I imagine so.
dan friesen
So yeah, that's a bummer, and I think there's something fun about the idea that Alex is just reading through comments.
Obsessively on Twitter, and people are like, your show's depressing.
jordan holmes
That's dark.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
jordan holmes
That's dark.
You're the one in a spiral of depression from watching the comments.
He's gotta stop.
dan friesen
He should.
jordan holmes
He should.
dan friesen
Also, his show is depressing, and this is all in service of not covering a story.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's just killing time, rambling about, like, I'm a soldier who can't see his kids because I'm too dedicated to the war.
jordan holmes
Whatcha gonna do?
dan friesen
Just do your job, dipshit!
Ah, come on.
Maybe he will in this next clip.
Spoiler alert, he won't.
alex jones
But I do understand those listeners saying it's depressing.
Do you think that I want to shovel the giant stinking piles of shit on my desk right now?
Well, that's what Hercules did was shovel out the Aegean stables.
And I'd sure like some help doing it.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
You think you don't want to hear this?
You think I want to tell you this?
You think I like this?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
But the only way to get them off our backs and our children's backs is to face it and to get in there with the flies and the crap and to shovel it out.
So help me.
All right, let me tell you what's coming up now.
unidentified
Oh my god, it's bad.
alex jones
Here it is.
There's the martial law plan stack right there.
That's Civil War.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
These freaking demons.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Sure would be nice to stop them.
dan friesen
Sure would be.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is not news.
You've covered this show already.
jordan holmes
It would be nice to stop these demons.
It would be nice.
dan friesen
This, this like...
The conception of this shit that's on his desk that he needs to shovel, he put it there!
It's the stacks of paper that he has put on his own desk!
jordan holmes
It's...
it's...
I don't even know what to say about a microcosm of the universe.
dan friesen
Right.
A Herculean task is something that the gods have put in front of Hercules in order that he needs to do...
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like, that's that.
It's not...
Hercules set up a task for himself and failed to complete it.
jordan holmes
It's not how it works.
No.
Also, he always did it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He was great at it.
dan friesen
Alex has made his own bed in terms of putting a hundred million piles of paper on his desk.
And he has no one to blame for needing to shovel shit but himself.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Bite off what you can chew, Ding Dong.
unidentified
I don't...
jordan holmes
I mean...
One thing I thought.
Alright.
Get Scott Adams out of there.
Fucking Sorbo.
What are we doing with AI videos where you don't already have Kevin Sorbo in there as Hercules?
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
But Scott Adams is just Scott Adams.
dan friesen
I think that Scott Adams maybe is a more potent...
Twitter figure than Kevin Sorbo.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe he's more invested in that space.
jordan holmes
Can't shovel shit as well.
dan friesen
These videos are things that Alex has repurposed from Twitter.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so they're primarily meant to antagonize and get retweets.
jordan holmes
Farm engagement.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that Scott Adams might be more attractive, more likely to retweet you than Sorbo.
jordan holmes
Because then he'll retweet, oh my god, this world.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
They're great.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to get to his point.
He's going to get to some of these stacks.
You heard him say he got the martial law stack here.
He said it's bad.
jordan holmes
It's bad.
dan friesen
So he's going to get to this.
jordan holmes
It's real bad.
alex jones
And that's why they're so dangerous.
Because we're kicking their ass in the information war.
We are slaughtering them right now.
jordan holmes
It would be nice to stop them, though.
alex jones
Yeah.
And then so they're starting World War III and Civil War.
So, yeah, it's great we stood up and are fighting them.
Now they're throwing everything else they got back at us.
That's what a war is like, see?
That's what a struggle is.
Somebody comes at you with a dagger trying to stab you to death, and you get out of the way and then kick them in the back, and then they roll over on the ground, maybe skin their face.
And they jump back up with a bloody nose.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, wait, what?
alex jones
We ain't done yet.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
This is a metaphor.
Of course, I'm not violent.
You're going to have to do one of two things.
Run.
Oh, sorry.
This is a globalist system.
You can't run.
Or you're going to have to fight.
You're going to have to make the decision when they come rushing it with that dagger.
However you're going to do it, step aside, kick out their feet.
When they hit the ground, jump with both your knees on the base of their neck and break their neck?
unidentified
Or do you grab that knife and shove it in?
jordan holmes
And you gotta decide.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
You gotta order your brain.
unidentified
Kill!
Kill!
alex jones
Now, I don't want anybody to go out and be physically violent.
I want you to kill with truth.
Kill with your will.
unidentified
Kill!
jordan holmes
Kill!
alex jones
Kill their lies!
I want you to kill their names!
They attacked us!
dan friesen
Kill!
Ignore a podcast that's been about you for eight years.
Kill!
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So it's cute that he's trying to pretend that he's not obsessed with violence and almost like he sexualizes it almost on the show.
It's disgusting.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's a healthy place for that, and it is not on the radio.
dan friesen
No.
It's probably, I mean, maybe the healthy place for him would be in a therapeutic relationship.
jordan holmes
Anywhere else from where other people can hear him.
dan friesen
But all that isn't really that interesting.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I find it interesting the way he was describing this fight against the globalists as a struggle, where he's winning and then they fight back and it goes back and forth.
Because I thought that one of his main problems with Marxist analysis was the way that they conceived of society as a constant struggle.
Many times I've heard him complain about that, and it's something that comes up in a lot of the JBS material that he was raised on.
The commies from that conflict constantly because their ideology is based on an ongoing struggle.
But how's that any different than what Alex is describing his fight as the globalist as being?
It seems very strange.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's all.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you figure, alright, say they get what they want, and all struggle ceases, type one civilization, but we're still in the battle between good and evil, so even if you have an entire united planet, by nature God has to then create a new enemy for you to fight.
Otherwise, there is no longer any good versus evil conflict, right?
dan friesen
Maybe.
There's a demon on the ship.
jordan holmes
So, in essence, in order to defeat God, we have to all come together.
There we go.
Reject the notion of good and evil.
Only focus on us.
Become a type 1 civilization.
Challenge God to a fist fight.
Boom!
Done.
dan friesen
Yeah, that might be the only way around this.
jordan holmes
I think it makes sense.
dan friesen
So, regardless of how much he chants, kill, kill, kill.
jordan holmes
Hypnosis is great.
dan friesen
And talks, you know, kind of pornographically about violence.
jordan holmes
Very gross.
dan friesen
Alex is the good guy.
You understand?
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
unidentified
He's the fucking good guy.
jordan holmes
He doesn't sound right.
alex jones
How do we get these people and trances out of him?
Well, I've heard a lot of people say, oh, you just slowly start conversations and find common ground.
That's not how you wake people up that are in a coma.
You hit them in the head with a metaphorical two-by-four.
jordan holmes
That is not how you wake people up from a coma.
alex jones
You tell them you're in a cult.
jordan holmes
Do not go to the hospital.
alex jones
You think Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab care about you?
You like being lied to?
You keep betting on the system you went and got your college degree that's worthless?
And the same system that told you that lie tells you, well, just get deeper into the lie, and someday you'll finally be successful.
It's because of the patriots and the Christians and the populists and the capitalists.
They're the reason you're not successful.
You're a victim.
You're in our cult now.
Join our victim cult, and we'll stop the victimizers.
You're being victimized by the cult you're in, not by us.
We want you to be free.
We want you to have prosperity.
We are the good guys.
We don't just look like the good guys.
We are the good guys.
And by that, you look at people fighting tyranny.
They're smart.
They're intelligent.
They're good-looking.
Black, white, Asian, old, young, Hispanic.
They don't need teleprompters.
You look at servants of evil, they look like a bunch of half-starved rats or something, because that's who they are.
Go to a leptist event.
They look like they're all dead.
Because they are dead on the inside.
jordan holmes
Helpful to see that.
alex jones
I'm serious.
I'm so beyond pissed off.
It's not even pissed off.
I'm just like...
I mean...
I have five stacks on the poison shots.
dan friesen
Stan, cover it, you dick.
This is all just to not do his job.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is all just filler.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, and now it's like, okay, so then are we doing tautologies?
It's like all good people are well-fed.
All well-fed people are good.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
All hungry people are bad.
dan friesen
That's one truth of the patriots.
jordan holmes
All bad people are hungry.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I don't know how long this society lasts for, but it's not long.
dan friesen
It doesn't.
It's not healthy.
But yeah, I think that Alex is stupid.
But I also think that there's something interesting about the, like, you're in a cult!
He played the Harry Potter video earlier.
Are you serious, dude?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fun.
Do you think Elon Musk loves you?
Do you think he cares about you?
Come on.
jordan holmes
I know you are, but what am I?
What they're saying is what they're doing, and what I'm saying may look exactly like that, but it is not because it's what they're doing.
dan friesen
Trust me, it's not embarrassing.
jordan holmes
I'm saying not what I'm doing, but I am doing it.
dan friesen
So Alex finally does get to some stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And one of the things that's the top stories, big thing, making him real mad, is that Peter Hotez, Sure.
And there are some things that you need to be worried about on the horizon.
There's some possible things that could become a problem.
And so Alex has decided that all of these things are him making threats of the next biological attack.
Sure.
alex jones
In February of 2017, Fauci addressing a whole bunch of the biomedical eugenicist death cult.
We played the clip yesterday.
He said, don't worry, Trump's gonna get hit by a brand new pandemic real quick, and that'll cut him down to size.
unidentified
He said, I guarantee it, watch.
alex jones
Well, now his mini-me, Peter Hotez, has crawled out from under a rock and gone on MSNBC.
He said, we got some big stuff coming down the pike for him on January 21st.
His first full day as president.
Got some big nasties for you.
jordan holmes
Interesting voice.
alex jones
Oh, and look.
Amid bleeding eye virus scare, mystery disease with flu-like symptoms kills almost 150 in Africa, sparks pandemic fears.
Yeah, what have some of the top globalists said in the past?
They said airborne Ebola will be What they used to bring in their world government.
dan friesen
Did Top Globalist say that, or did you say that six, eight months ago, or whatever, when you were trying to pretend Denver was going to have an outbreak of Ebola?
jordan holmes
Pretty sure it was that one.
dan friesen
Yeah, what was it?
We're doing Ebola again?
jordan holmes
Pretty sure it was the latter.
dan friesen
So Peter Hotez was talking about how on the first day that Trump's in office...
There's the possibility for public health crises, and you need to have a good team in place in order to address whatever could come up.
That's it.
That's all he's talking about.
Alex is entirely twisting this, and it's pathetic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, you know, we're running it all back.
It's probably wise to assume we're going to run COVID back, too.
dan friesen
Well, that's the issue with the world.
Public health issues are an inevitability.
They're a thing that you need to manage.
There's always going to be novel things.
There's always going to be chronic things that have existed that we have some awareness of.
It's how you respond to those challenges that...
Is what public health is about.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so that's really all that's being expressed.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Is that like, hey, it's not going to be a magical time where nothing comes up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if we respond irresponsibly or unpreparedly, we run the risk of, like you say, running it back.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is hard not to hear, you know, it is hard not to hear that as partially like, you know, you can't rely on the government to help you.
dan friesen
So what Hotez was saying was essentially, you know, you're saying it's a running back of 2016.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's funny because Alex is just relating it to something that Fauci said before Trump got in office.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And he plays that clip here, and I think that it's a mistake to ever play this clip.
alex jones
And then they've got this new hemorrhagic thing, it looks like, in the Congo.
All right on time.
Here's, remember what Fauci said right when Trump came into office last time.
Here it is.
anthony fauci
Given, as you heard from the introduction, that I have been around for a while and have had the opportunity and the privilege and the pleasure of serving in five administrations, I thought I would bring that perspective to the topic today, is the issue of pandemic preparedness.
And if there's one message...
That I want to leave with you today based on my experience, and you'll see that in a moment, is that there is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases, both chronic infectious diseases in the sense of already ongoing disease,
and we have certainly a large burden of that, but also there will be a surprise outbreak, and I hope by the end of my relatively short presentation you will understand why history The history of the last 32 years that I've been the director of NIAID will tell the next administration that there's no doubt in anyone's mind that they will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with.
unidentified
The UN.
Thank you.
Thank you.
alex jones
Has publicly said they would use the Disease Act to bring in rural government.
dan friesen
So you should not play that clip because you have to be fucking stupid to not understand what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, Alex has to expect that his listeners don't get any of the context or understand at all that he's saying every single presidency has faced challenges.
Yours is not going to be unique in that there isn't any kind of challenge.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You have to...
Really, really bury your head in the sand to not understand the context.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Second, you should never play this clip, the one that Alex is playing, because it has background music on it.
And that makes me think that you found this on Twitter as opposed to found it from its original source.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's kind of embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You should play the actual video of this as opposed to something where someone would put some beats behind it to make it extra scary.
jordan holmes
I mean, I get that.
dan friesen
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, also, man, bummer of a thing to play about the guy.
Do you know what I mean?
He's his own predecessor.
If you're like, hey, everybody's going to face a challenge based on their predecessor, it was him, and he's publicly said he's going to do a worse job.
So yeah, I mean, I wouldn't play that.
I wouldn't play that at all.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's...
Oh, well.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex has a breaking COVID bombshell story.
alex jones
Breaking new study urges immediate halt to COVID-19 mRNA injections over alarming levels of DNA in the Journal of Science and Public Health Policy and Law with a whole list of top scientists.
dan friesen
So that headline that Alex is reading is from a Substack article published by someone who works for the Anti-Vax McCullough Foundation.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
It links to an article that's not published in some academic journal, but on a blog for a journal-sounding name, Science, Public Health Policy and Law.
The article that they posted involves three researchers who claim that their analysis found residual DNA and mRNA shots.
The lead researcher wrote a book about how keto diets fight cancer, so take this however you will.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fun.
dan friesen
I went to their website to get a sense of who this outlet was, and here are some of their recent headlines.
Quote, the euro is a Frankenstein currency.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Quote, John Kerry said the quiet part out loud.
The First Amendment stands in our way.
jordan holmes
Is he still alive?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's around.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And he hates the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
That'll happen, though.
dan friesen
And here's the last one.
Quote, atomic salvation.
Did the atom bomb save 500,000 to 32 million lives?
jordan holmes
Good question for no one.
dan friesen
Cool stuff.
They published their own journal, but they seem to publish a lot of stuff by Peter McCullough, head of the McCullough Foundation, which makes sense because he's the clinical section editor on their editorial board.
Other members of their board include Anti-Vex Ding Dong Pierre Corey and the CEO of RFK's Anti-Vex outlet Children's Health Defense Mary Holland.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is an Anti-Vex front dressed up to look like a scholarly journal, so it's difficult to take anything they publish too seriously, but Alex isn't even covering the journal's article itself.
He's covering a sub-stack about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's not...
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, those things tend to have, like, an unfair advantage on account of, like, if you just sound good enough, you can usually scam some billionaire out of some amount of money because it's not real for them.
And it just, you know, they support the thing.
So you got a nice little cushy sinecure kind of job where you just lie.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's, like...
dan friesen
It's the dream.
The American dream.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is a little bit...
It's not far off.
dan friesen
So we have just one more clip because I grew impatient with Alex.
jordan holmes
That's understandably so.
dan friesen
Well, because there's an irony.
And that is that, like, I grow in impatience as he doesn't get to the point.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then when he does get to the point, it turns out it's this guy's substack about anti-vax blog study.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then he has another study.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
And here's another study for you.
From the University of South Carolina.
Headed up by Philip Buxenholtz, PhD, professor of cancer molecular genetics.
The Pfizer mRNA vaccine is contaminated with a plasma DNA vector.
Vector means it spreads.
That is used as the template for in vitro transcription reaction.
That means it replicates in you.
His DNA...
This DNA could be the cause of some of the rare but serious side effects like death.
Yeah, it starts a viral effect in your heart, and you get myocarditis.
What's the main cause of natural myocarditis?
Viral infections.
dan friesen
This is why Alex kills time forever before getting into stories.
Because when he finally does, he trips over words he doesn't know and he has to riff explanations for all this stuff on the fly.
He has zero idea what any of this is about, but he's built it up to be super important, so you would expect that he would have read any of this in advance.
jordan holmes
Any of it!
dan friesen
But he hasn't, and it's super clear once he finally gets around to looking at the prop paper on his desk.
He has no idea what these words mean, he has no idea who Philip...
Buck Holtz is, and he has no idea what he's reading.
This isn't a study that he's reading, that he's referencing.
It's a PowerPoint presentation that Buck Holtz delivered to the South Carolina State House.
It's full of grammatical errors, like lowercase letters starting sentences, and the first sentence of his conclusion is, quote, we should check a bunch of vaccinated people to see if plasmid DNA is integrated into their genomic DNA.
Essentially, his conclusion is, let's go fishing, and he uses the very scientific term of a bunch of people.
This is not good.
jordan holmes
Get a chunk!
dan friesen
The last line of his conclusion is, quote, 20 Greek soldiers wandering around outside the walls of Troy are not a big deal.
20 Greek soldiers packed inside a large wooden horse are a different matter.
That last line has a couple asterisks after it, and if you follow them, they go to a...
Very small font footnote that says, quote, I believe this was a scientific and regulatory oversight, not a nefarious intent to transfect people and alter their DNA, but it needs to be fixed nonetheless.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This wasn't from a study.
It was from a September 12, 2023 listening session that was held by the South Carolina legislature.
I'm guessing that one of the dipshits that Alex follows on Twitter recently discovered this PowerPoint presentation and, you know, started posting about it.
So Alex saw that and now he has to make up a story about how this is some deeply prestigious study and how all the prestigious scientists are dropping these bombshells.
The full video of this listening session is available online.
And if you actually go to South Carolina Legislature's page, they include in their materials for this a letter challenging the statements made by this guy.
A representative from Pfizer wrote to the committee saying, quote, We write to you today regarding the pandemic preparedness listening session hosted by the Senate Medical Affairs Committee on September 12th.
During the session, the committee heard remarks pertaining to the Pfizer BioNTech messenger RNA COVID-19 vaccine, incorrectly stating that the vaccine contains plasmid DNA that could potentially impact a person's DNA and be a theoretical cancer risk.
There's no evidence to support these claims, and they provide the risk of being misconstrued by either None of this context is provided by Alex's coverage because he doesn't know shit about the stuff that he's covering.
He knows that he doesn't know shit about this stuff, which is why he dances around and rants about the devil and how he's a big boy instead of covering any of it.
He knows that as soon as he gets into anything specific, he's fucking weak and it just looks like shit.
Oh, this study done by the University of South Carolina, it's a...
Presentation that was in a listening session that is clearly not correct.
It's clearly someone who's talking shit.
jordan holmes
Just, you know, like the idea of not even scanning it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Not even a cursory, like...
I'll just...
Hey, listen.
I know I'm going on air.
I'm never going to get to the third page.
So I'll just scan the top page of every one of my stacks just to make sure that I...
Just a little bit of work!
dan friesen
That would be nice.
jordan holmes
Just a little bit!
dan friesen
But the fact that it goes so shallow is such an indication that he doesn't really care at all about the idea of the audience not taking his word for it.
jordan holmes
At all.
dan friesen
Not at all.
jordan holmes
At all.
dan friesen
He knows that whatever story he comes up about this is going to be what they believe and, you know, whatever.
You know, because this is like a listening session PowerPoint presentation that this person gave.
Dubious information.
And it's over a year old.
Alex is reporting that as a new study from the University of South Carolina.
And that's, I mean, unethical.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I think there's a lot...
Okay, I'm going to relate this back.
Sinbad's got one of my favorite lines, which is, you're funnier when you ride the bus.
That kind of thing.
And the more I think about it, the more I think Alex is getting away with this level of stuff.
Not because he could have started here.
He couldn't start with this little effort.
But by gradually wearing people down over the years to get to this point, right?
Like, he's got a reinforcing negative response to why get better at your job if you're rewarded for getting worse.
dan friesen
True.
And there's nothing behind what he was pretending early on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, as time goes on...
There is no grand communist conspiracy that you're sniffing out and getting to the bottom of, like your John Birch Society fellows.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
The John Birch Society had the good fortune of being disgraced, so they didn't have to stay in the public face for 30 years like Alex has.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
They would have run out of steam and turned into, oh, it's the devil, eventually, probably.
Alex is being forced to exist when there is no meat on the bones.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there never was.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, the JBS had the...
See, the thing about the JBS, though, is it has the advantage of being made up by rich people.
So they can go away and just be rich and, like...
But they still were JBS.
It's not like they changed their mind.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They just went away and spent all their money to make more JBS people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
But Alex can't...
dan friesen
They went underground a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alex can't really go underground anymore.
dan friesen
But that's the fucking problem.
jordan holmes
He could.
Yeah, you're right.
dan friesen
He could.
He doesn't because he wants money.
jordan holmes
Right.
He can't.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
He could if he was not him.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Because he's him, he can't.
dan friesen
If he wasn't maniacally driven to make tons and tons of money and all that shit, then, yeah, he could easily go underground the way that other folks in his legacy have.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I don't think there's a lesson there.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So anyway, I thought this was a perfect illustration of, like, why he dances.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And why he does all this filler and killing time and all this stuff is because once he has to read these articles for the first time, he's forced to make stuff up and it's just, that's not fun for him.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Ranting about the devil and all that stuff and how he doesn't really like violence but kill, kill, kill.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's fun.
And that's what people want anyway.
They don't want him...
Going over this study, he couldn't do it if he wanted to.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
That's why you're funnier when you ride the bus, because once you get to this point, you're just playing the hits.
Nobody wants to hear the Eagles' new shit.
You're just playing Hotel California until you die, man.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's just happening.
dan friesen
You're getting an applause break for saying if they want to fight, they got one.
jordan holmes
Oh, Jesus, man.
Come on.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Do Adam Sandler and funny people.
See how it goes.
Try acting!
dan friesen
Good try.
So, yeah, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neom Lee.
I'm DZXFARC.
I'm the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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