#979: Election Eve
In this installment, Dan and Jordan discuss some of the dynamics of Alex's coverage of the 2024 election results, where Alex admits Joe Rogan is a liar and gets a surprise drop in from a racist pizza guy.
Nov. 8, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| I need, I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller in the future. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| Quick question for you! | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| My bright spot is currently in our home. | ||
| Three men enter every morning and just make a shit ton of noise. | ||
| How many men leave? | ||
| At five, usually three men leave. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it's not a death sport situation. | ||
| No, it's just like a regular work day. | ||
| And then hopefully by the end of it, we will have a new shower. | ||
| And this is the brightest of spots. | ||
| Yeah, that is nice. | ||
| Look, I don't want to put your business on Main Street. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That shower is pretty gross. | ||
| Or it was. | ||
| It was one of the most disgusting things you'll ever see. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm excited for you to get a new thing in there. | ||
| Because it was... | ||
| Your house is very nice. | ||
| Like, you and Devin's place is nice. | ||
| I mean, it's a condo. | ||
| But it's still nice. | ||
| No, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just don't call it a house. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| It's lovely in terms of everything, I think, except for maybe your cave. | ||
| Yeah, my cave is a horrifying nightmare. | ||
| And the shower. | ||
| And the shower is a horrifying nightmare. | ||
| Both of these things are true. | ||
| So that anomaly will be gone. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it'll fit. | ||
| It'll just be my... | ||
| A monstrous cave. | ||
| But that's to be expected. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's what I need to survive. | ||
| Even in a best-case scenario, if my place was really nice and decorated and everything... | ||
| The studio would still be a mess. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| That's our little... | ||
| It's just the space. | ||
| A little hidey hole. | ||
| It's where it needs to be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| How long did you say it's going to take? | ||
| They said it was only going to take three days. | ||
| So they say it's good. | ||
| They're going to be done by tomorrow. | ||
| I took a look after they went home today. | ||
| It's a hole, and it's filled with stuff, but not a bathroom. | ||
| So we'll see what happens tomorrow. | ||
| What do you do in a situation like this? | ||
| Do you give beverages? | ||
| Do you tip? | ||
| No, I just hide. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| I'm just in the living room with the dogs and we're trying not to make noise as though they're not making a shit ton of noise. | ||
| I'm trying not to bother them by making too much of a racket. | ||
| When they're using power tools. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Hey guys, sorry. | ||
| I've got my music on a little loud. | ||
| I'll turn it down. | ||
| Well, hopefully it goes smooth. | ||
| That'll be nice. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| Well, my bright spot is my parents are in town for a visit. | ||
| It's very nice. | ||
| Good to see them. | ||
| Very fun times. | ||
| And also, this is my way of explaining why maybe this episode's going to be a little shorter than expected at dinner reservations. | ||
| So, it's a lot to take in. | ||
| Parental visit and election, all of this. | ||
| It's just a whirlwind of shit. | ||
| But today, we're going to be talking a little bit about Alex's election night coverage. | ||
| Quite a while. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Quite a long time, and I watched pretty deep into it, and it was boring. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's a very strange sensation to watch the coverage on there again, because, as we've talked about in the past... | ||
| A lot of my curiosity and the interest in doing the show grew out of watching the debates on Infowars culminating in the 2016 election coverage where Alex raised his champagne glass and mocked the people at the Clinton campaign. | ||
| One could say that the show was born two days ago, eight years ago. | ||
| You know, obviously there's other... | ||
| Pieces of it, and that's printing the legend, sort of. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| You know, the visceral experience of seeing that was inspirational in my curiosity being driven towards, like, what's going on with this guy? | ||
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Totally. | |
| People aren't really talking about what he covers. | ||
| I don't know what his show is like. | ||
| What is the real shit here? | ||
| And so to eight years later be, like, in a... | ||
| Fairly similar situation. | ||
| Watching an election happen where Alex is celebrating Trump winning and also going out of his way to play footage of Harris rallies and going out of his way to try and laugh at these people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It felt very different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It felt weird. | ||
| It did not quite strike the same chord. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think a part of it was desperation. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, Alex wanted to mock these people, and he wanted them to be in pain. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And instead, there would flash to, like, Harris's would-be victory celebration, and there were people dancing. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| There were people crying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like he wanted to mock. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like he did in 2016. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| There wasn't that image of the soft soy liberal or whatever that he would derive pleasure out of seeing their pain. | ||
| Instead, he was saying, oh, look at them! | ||
| Look at them! | ||
| They're in so much pain! | ||
| And there are people dancing or milling about. | ||
| It was not the same, but he wanted it to be the same. | ||
| He wanted those feelings again. | ||
| Very obviously. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it just, I don't know, it fell very flat. | ||
| Yeah, that's the way it goes. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| So we'll talk a little bit about the night, but I don't know if all of it is really as much worth breaking down all hours and hours. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I strongly doubt it, but who knows? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we'll talk about some things that are worth note, but first... | ||
| Let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, to my Griggly Bear Bryce. | ||
| Proud papa to doot. | ||
| Happy birthday instead of a bucket of poop. | ||
| Here's a shout-out. | ||
| Love, Stinky. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| In my new D&D campaign, I'm playing a chaotic, evil, tiefling barbarian named Alex Emmerich Jones. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I learned of your podcast at QED, and now I want nothing more than to hear Jordan yell thank you very much at me. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to... | ||
| Happy birthday, Chelsea, from your knowledge-fighting brother. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So, you know, the election happened. | ||
| Trump won. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Shit's bad. | ||
| And I think we all know how important we're all going to be for each other in the future, how crucial things are as things get bad. | ||
| You know, I don't know. | ||
| I'm not the best source of inspirational speech or insight on this. | ||
| But, you know, I think everybody who listens to this show probably understands, like, there's a lot of work ahead, and, you know, that's just a reality. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I don't think that it was a giant surprise that Trump won. | ||
| It was disappointing for sure, but at the beginning of the night, I felt like it could go either way. | ||
| The sense that I got was that reality could go either direction, but that the media that we end up covering a ton treated Trump's win as a foregone conclusion, and they were planning a ton of groundwork for the possibility of him losing. | ||
| There was just all, it's gonna be stolen, oh my god, there's people in Philadelphia who've been caught stealing. | ||
| Like, just... | ||
| Wall to wall. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This was the way things were gonna go. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'll admit, though, I did think that there was a slight edge that Harris was holding, because Trump's a complete lunatic. | ||
| I thought things like Tucker talking about being attacked by a demon would be a splash of cold water in the face for people that would wake them up about the direction that that side of things was going. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I was wrong. | ||
| Yeah, I'm fine to admit that I was wrong. | ||
| I thought demon attack stuff in the last days of the campaign was going to be like, uh-oh, pump the brakes here. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| What are you going to do? | ||
| But I think the main message that I've had from the election coverage on Infowars was that Alex is bored. | ||
| And I don't have any qualms about that even now that Trump won. | ||
| I still think Alex was intensely bored with the actual election, needing to distract himself from the real world with any momentarily exciting headline or fantasy prediction. | ||
| And from watching his coverage of the 2024 election, I still feel that way. | ||
| I still feel that he was bored, and he was just a bored guy with things going his way. | ||
| There's this kind of celebratory mood, but during the night, he played some footage of him and Roger celebrating 2016, and there's such a noticeable difference. | ||
| It's night and day. | ||
| That is not what I would do. | ||
| I would definitely not play footage of eight years ago and be younger, have less of a billion dollars over your head. | ||
| Any number of these things. | ||
| I don't know if it was his choice. | ||
| I think they might have done it by accident. | ||
| But also, they're playing this footage of Alex, and he's like, Ah, we got Trump in. | ||
| As long as he doesn't sleep with goblins, we'll be okay. | ||
| And so this whole idea that he had was like, alright, he's in, but we can't accept him working with bad people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He can't work with the establishment. | ||
| And the entire time that Trump was in office was him making excuses for why Trump's working with these establishment people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so it's just kind of funny to look back on that and be like, oh, we're doing this again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, he's going to get good people this time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, it does make you feel like it's possible whenever everybody was telling you that democracy was on the line, they were lying! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how I feel about that. | ||
| If it were the case, I don't think Obama would release a statement saying that he was very proud of the Kamala Harris campaign if democracy was over. | ||
| That seems incongruous. | ||
| Unless it's also, and I'm fleeing the country because I'll be murdered. | ||
| Because democracy's over. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I think that... | ||
| I don't know what happens as democracies crumble. | ||
| I don't know if everyone flees or if people hold on to institutions that are no longer functional. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Maybe you just exist within that institutional place. | ||
| What would you expect them to do? | ||
| Like, get their guns and start being like... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| We fight at dawn? | ||
| Yeah, no, that's the way that they made you feel in the lead-up to the election, and now that it's happened, everybody's gonna make you feel like, actually, things will be pretty much the same. | ||
| You'll be able to deal with it. | ||
| We gotta reserve. | ||
| I think that some of that is your interpretation of democracy is on the ballot. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And some of that is the way that you are made to feel by that. | ||
| See, there you go. | ||
| As opposed to what everybody feels or what they, like, exactly what their message was. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I don't think that, you know, you shouldn't be held to account for that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Not you. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I mean, the way that they made some people feel with the democracy is on the ballot. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But I also don't think that it means you have to... | ||
| Start shooting or else that viewpoint is invalid. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| It's complicated. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| So I was trying to put my finger on what this difference that I felt between 2016 and 2024 Alex was. | ||
| And the thing that I kept coming back to is that Alex is no longer a free person. | ||
| In 2016, he'd agreed to shill for Trump, a guy who he'd previously shit on and reported was connected to the mob, but he was doing a gig. | ||
| In many ways, supporting Trump furthered his enterprise, and it opened up a ton of conspiracy possibilities. | ||
| Trump winning wasn't ideal, but it was an interesting development, and they might be able to work with it. | ||
| But Alex made a giant mistake by centering his identity on the power that he felt after this win. | ||
| He embellished stories and made shit up to make himself look closer to this power. | ||
| He abandoned old guests who didn't go along with Trump and brought in a new crew of idiots who were riding the same adjacency to power scam that Alex was. | ||
| Instead of being Alex Jones in a new world where Trump happened to be in power, Alex branded himself as the guy who Trump listens to and takes the lead from. | ||
| Alex was talking to all the Trump advisors, and Alex is actually the spiritual driver behind the whole Trump movement. | ||
| His essence became entwined with this in a way that wasn't freeing, but in fact shackled him. | ||
| And now Alex lives in a constricted world of being Alex Jones. | ||
| He's still Alex Jones, but he's tied down. | ||
| Let's imagine a scenario where Trump uses the military against Palestinian rights protesters or climate change protesters. | ||
| This would be as clear a breach of posse comitatus as you could imagine, and it couldn't be more of a red line for someone in Alex's political tradition. | ||
| Deploying FEMA after natural disasters is supposed to be a violation of posse comitatus to him, so how can he exist in this conspiracy space? | ||
| He would need to then be like, oh no, Trump is a villain. | ||
| Can you do that? | ||
| You can't really. | ||
| No, spiritual drivers have to die. | ||
| That's the important thing. | ||
| Jesus has to die. | ||
| He can't be 50, turn a little too much water into wine and have diarrhea. | ||
| That's not your Jesus. | ||
| That's not your God. | ||
| He's gotta die. | ||
| For narrative archetypes, for the storytelling, the way that it goes. | ||
| You need to. | ||
| And it doesn't mean that Alex needs to die. | ||
| It's just that he now needs to realize that everything in his career is sort of... | ||
| He's undoing and going to make a problem for his legend. | ||
| Yeah, whether or not he needs to die. | ||
| Metaphorically, what he needs to do is go away to a space where people forget about him, and then he can come back and be the rampaging, returning hero. | ||
| But he's got to go away first. | ||
| He's got to go away to come back. | ||
| I think there's some really funny irony in that during the show, he's selling his VIP membership club thing, and on it, he has The Lost... | ||
| Best Alex Jones tapes, which he's selling, which are episodes of his show from 2001 to 2008. | ||
| That you have? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course you have them. | ||
| But then it's also like, hey, dude, like, you know the reason that you stopped there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You defamed a bunch of people afterwards, and you don't really want people to understand this area of your career. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That part is really problematic for you. | ||
| So now just throw in the Bush years. | ||
| Anti-Bush, anti-Obama, you got them both. | ||
| That was the glory days. | ||
| No, but he still doesn't actually want his real show from a lot of the Obama time to be on. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| The Bush gives you a, I'm outside the box legitimacy, and then the tail end Obama is like, and this is where I truly stepped into the role of anti-Obama guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Before it got to Obama's gonna... | ||
| Avoid the Constitution and start a caliphate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where have I heard that before? | ||
| Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, this is just really bad for Alex, I think, the way that he's tied down. | ||
| And there's a ton of examples, like Trump using the military against protesters, where the archetype of Alex Jones should be yelling about how this powerful person is abusing their power. | ||
| The fake version of Alex that exists in people's minds needs to be opposed to Trump, because, you know, It's obvious. | ||
| But Alex has associated himself so much with the power that comes with being associated to Trump, he has to walk around pretending not to see very obvious shit that's in front of him. | ||
| And it's embarrassing. | ||
| He can only really sniff out one type of conspiracy at this point, which is the conspiracy against Trump. | ||
| Even when he's mad at Trump about things like the vaccine, which is a bioweapon against the American people, Alex will yell about how everyone tricked Trump and he's only guilty of being a proud man. | ||
| You know, so there's just this. | ||
| It's no good. | ||
| It's a parody of itself. | ||
| Yeah, the money-making conspiracy that's going to be... | ||
| What's going to do it for you in the coming years is going to be anti-billionaire stuff. | ||
| And if you're the biggest Elon Musk cheerleader there's ever been, you can't be like, oh, I hate billionaires, but the richest man in the world is totally cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you do have a box that you're in. | ||
| And when you're a conspiracist in a box, it's kind of pathetic. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| And I can understand how Alex is probably bored of being in that position and sees the trouble that... | ||
| This is going to imply. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| He has the instinctual talent to do more than this, and in order to fit the role that he's in now, he needs to play to lower than his actual abilities, but I'm sure he knows that there isn't a real choice for him anymore. | ||
| The audience he's cultivated doesn't want what he used to pretend to be. | ||
| Everyone kind of knew the game, and one of the important things that happens in the whole night of Alex's election coverage... | ||
| Is this admission that he makes while he's bragging to his co-host for the night? | ||
| Candice, you were getting cut off. | ||
| Make your points. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I think that this is all amazing. | ||
| I'm really curious how much the Joe Rogan endorsement made a dent in a lot of these states that we're all concerned about, like the battleground states. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm on the edge of my seat. | ||
| I mean, I think in fairness, I think the earlier interviews and Joe acting like he was nonpartisan, devastating Harris and Biden for years. | ||
| I mean, not inside baseball, but I mean, the Democrats knew it. | ||
| I mean, he was doing that so it would be more effective to hurt them. | ||
| Once he actually did it. | ||
| Give him a little insight. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they know it so I can say it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Joe's as hardcore as I am. | ||
| I mean, probably more. | ||
| But he knows everything. | ||
| But the point is... | ||
| Is that it was already done. | ||
| That was a victory lap. | ||
| So this is it. | ||
| I mean, this is the point. | ||
| And it's important to understand how much this mentality pervades this right-wing media ecosystem. | ||
| They are liars. | ||
| And they get really defensive when you call them liars. | ||
| But then once they feel like they're in a position of dominance over you, they'll just admit they were lying the whole time. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Early on in the podcast, we did an episode about Stefan Molyneux going to Poland and finally just accepting that he was a white nationalist. | ||
| Even though Molyneux was a side character on our show at best, I thought it merited an episode because what he experienced and expressed was such a crystallization of all of these assholes. | ||
| They express views that are clearly indicating their beliefs, like in Molyneux's case, that he was a white nationalist. | ||
| In response, people accurately describe his beliefs and tell him that he's a piece of shit because of his white nationalism. | ||
| People try to get mainstream platforms like YouTube to not host this very obviously white nationalist content. | ||
| Stefan, on some level, understands fully well that he's a white nationalist. | ||
| But he also knows that if he's too clear about it, no one except white nationalists are going to support him. | ||
| In order to trick non-white nationalists into defending his white nationalist content, it has to be about free speech or some other abstraction. | ||
| He's a defender of these abstract ideals, and the man is so worried about him that they've branded him unfairly as a white nationalist. | ||
| Can you believe that? | ||
| This is the way that they always do it. | ||
| They just try and call everything racist. | ||
| But then Trump wins, and Stefan goes to a white nationalist rally in Poland, where he feels the power of the thing that he's been pretending not to be, and the facade is no longer necessary. | ||
| In that moment, he just admits he's a white nationalist, and in essence, all of his critics have been right all along. | ||
| The same is true about a lot of these folks, and Alex is literally saying that it's true of Rogan. | ||
| Rogan may or may not actually be an overt white nationalist or anything, but he's a very extreme right-wing social media poisoned shithead. | ||
| For a long time, he's pretended to have a neutral, unbiased position, and his whole thing was about having these interesting conversations with interesting people. | ||
| But all the critics, folks like us, and many other people have been saying, this dude is super right-wing. | ||
| He is an idiot, and he is pushing this ideology. | ||
| And of course the response to that criticism is to pretend to be offended. | ||
| How dare you call me right-wing? | ||
| I just completely and mindlessly parrot social media right-wing grievance narratives and interview complete idiots from the right-wing media as if they were cool normal people. | ||
| Have you met my leftist friends Jimmy Dore and Dave Rubin? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The facade falls. | ||
| The point of people criticizing Stefan Molyneux about being a white nationalist was to help the people who might watch his content understand what they were seeing. | ||
| It seems like this was a show about philosophy or current events, but he was pushing racist and sexist ideology masquerading as free speech and common sense. | ||
| He lied about what his agenda was in order to be more palatable to a wider audience, and then once he felt like he didn't need to hide anymore, he just accepted that the people criticizing him were right. | ||
| He viewed it as too late to matter, and the association with power that he felt from that rally was stronger than his need to lie. | ||
| The point of criticizing Rogan as a right-wing extremist promoting idiot was never to hurt his feelings or to ruin him. | ||
| It was to help people who might watch his show understand what they were getting into. | ||
| He wasn't being straight up about what he was advocating for, and that was pretty apparent if you paid attention. | ||
| Now the election's happened, and there's no need to pretend anymore. | ||
| He had Trump, Vance, and Elon Musk all on the show in the run-up to the election, which Alex is calling a victory lap. | ||
| It's honestly fine if he's a right-wing fanatic shithead. | ||
| If Rogan believes all that stuff, that's his business, and it's his right to express himself however he wants. | ||
| The problem is the idea that he was lying, and as Alex put it, quote, pretending to be nonpartisan this whole time, because the reason he would do that is to trick the audience into not realizing what they're signing up for. | ||
| I don't know if what Alex is saying is true, that Rogan has told them that, but I think this is a situation where Rogan should have to respond to this. | ||
| I need him to either accept that, yeah. | ||
| I've been lying to y 'all this whole time in order to trick you into associating cool things about me with voting for Trump, or I need him to deal with the fact that one of his quote-unquote best friends came on his show and said, my guy Joe's been lying to you for years in order to try and hurt Democrats. | ||
| So, I mean, he should have to face the music on this one way or the other. | ||
| I don't think he will. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But yeah, to me, I think that clip is... | ||
| Basically, one of the only things that happened on the show that was important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just this, ha-ha. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you know, there's the other reaction to him being like, I'm not a white nationalist, which is the, you know. | ||
| Well, see, he's very ambiguous about his feelings. | ||
| You can't call him a white nationalist. | ||
| Here's the fact check. | ||
| You can't call him a white nationalist because he said he wasn't a white nationalist. | ||
| And that's the other thing. | ||
| I think that there's some value in not throwing around terms just super capriciously. | ||
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See? | |
| But yeah, there is some cover that people who have noxious beliefs can... | ||
| Play technicalities or something. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Hiding the ball. | ||
| Yeah, there are people who love that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They want to help him hide the ball as much as possible. | ||
| And I think that there's some of that... | ||
| There's a lot of other people who have been also quite clear as it relates to Rogan. | ||
| The way everybody is going to react to all of this will be in whatever... | ||
| The explanation will be whatever it needs to be for them to not have to be like, well, I was wrong about this. | ||
| That's what it's going to be. | ||
| That's what everybody's reaction is going to be. | ||
| So, it's okay. | ||
| So, the issue with a lot of this is this mentality... | ||
| That Alex is depicting with Rogan is real for a lot of the figures in his media. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the Democrats, and Harris in particular, a lot of their messaging was around Project 2025, being like, this is what Trump's probably going to do. | ||
| These are staffing decisions and advocacy stuff that is likely... | ||
| But you're going to see if he gets elected. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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It is so unpopular and people rightly saw a lot of the policy proposals as being like, I don't want. | |
| sign up for this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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This is bad. | |
| Sure. | ||
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This is no good. | |
| So, you know, they pretended that wasn't what they wanted. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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And now you'll probably see a lot of that facade drop. | |
| Yep. | ||
| But I want to congratulate Kamala for running a really... | ||
| I'm really proud of her campaign. | ||
| I'm just really proud of the way she ran it. | ||
| I'm really proud of her. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I think it's good. | ||
| I don't know what you do. | ||
| I don't know what you do. | ||
| But, you know, the reality is that it was a losing campaign. | ||
| Did anybody come out and say, I am sorry I failed you. | ||
| Our campaign failed you. | ||
| We told you that democracy was on the line. | ||
| Those were the stakes. | ||
| And then we did an actively bad job. | ||
| For whatever reason you choose. | ||
| We failed. | ||
| We're failures. | ||
| We failed you. | ||
| I did watch her concession speech the next day. | ||
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Yeah? | |
| That was not most of the theme. | ||
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Not the thrust of it? | |
| No. | ||
| How about Biden's speech today? | ||
| Was that the theme of it? | ||
| Sorry we failed you? | ||
| I didn't see that. | ||
| I didn't watch that one. | ||
| No, it doesn't seem like anybody's resigned or taken responsibility. | ||
| Everybody's just talked about how we need to resist. | ||
| I think there should be, though. | ||
| I think there should be quite a reckoning. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| Strategy moving forward. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I obviously don't know enough to know what the right decision is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It does feel like there's some hard questions. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure they'll be asked. | ||
| So Alex has a co-host for most of the night. | ||
| We're just going to play a little bit, just give you a little bit of the vibe of things. | ||
| And I don't think that she's very good at the game that's being played. | ||
| I only look at most of intelligence. | ||
| People ask, where do you get intelligence? | ||
| Oh, the person's in the CIA, they have intelligence. | ||
| I should pause real quick here and just give you a little bit of context. | ||
| At this point in the night, very few returns had come in. | ||
| This is about 7 o 'clock, so there's very few returns from Texas. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But some of the early returns made it look like Texas might go blue, and so they're a little bit worried about it. | ||
| Okay, all right, all right. | ||
| We're in that mode where nothing has actually happened, but everybody's kind of like, it could go either way! | ||
| Within three minutes of this clip... | ||
| Texas has called for... | ||
| More or less. | ||
| For sure, yeah. | ||
| That's a bunch of the most brainwashed idiots ever. | ||
| They don't know anything. | ||
| And it's not going to lie to us. | ||
| Real intelligence is observation in the universe of what's happening. | ||
| They've spent so much time in Texas. | ||
| Harris has spent so much time. | ||
| They've been snickering they're going to win. | ||
| They've been pumping us full of illegals. | ||
| They've been putting their people, they've got control of all the major cities. | ||
| They're openly engaged in fraud. | ||
| They just caught stealing a bunch of votes down in Houston. | ||
| And they have been salivating where we're all focused on the other battlegrounds and they flip Texas. | ||
| The only other person I've heard really warning of this is Marjorie Taylor Greene with me. | ||
| In the last two weeks, she's been on twice. | ||
| Now, this happened last time because they have so many baked-in fraudulent votes that it looks like they almost stole Florida four years ago that as it builds up, they run out of the votes in the Zuckerberg database, and then you see Cruz and others win. | ||
| But it was very close last time, and now they've been doubling down, so I'm literally... | ||
| Sick at my stomach, because if they ever steal Texas, they're never going to let it go back again with this fraud. | ||
| So I am just totally disgusted. | ||
| And let's just pray. | ||
| We've got to work harder and get these machines out, folks. | ||
| Candace Horbach, your take on this. | ||
| I'm shocked. | ||
| I'm shocked. | ||
| First, I guess, do you require ID in Texas to vote? | ||
| Yeah, but the Secretary of State said people can vote with non-citizen IDs. | ||
| Non-citizen IDs? | ||
| Because the FBI said so. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look at that. | ||
| Texas going blue. | ||
| No way. | ||
| So what happens? | ||
| If Texas goes blue... | ||
| They win hands down by a giant landslide. | ||
| But what is that for the future? | ||
| And then does it get investigated? | ||
| It has to be investigated. | ||
| Wouldn't you imagine? | ||
| Yeah, but they've already... | ||
| The state stripped the power of the Attorney General, Kim Paxton. | ||
| He can investigate, but he can't prosecute. | ||
| So they've defanged him. | ||
| And again, Texas has 40 electoral votes. | ||
| And is it possible, even though the cities are blue, that that's going to still flip the state? | ||
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Yeah, they come in later. | |
| It gets closer each time. | ||
| I'm just saying, Harris and the Democrats have been pumping money into Texas and hovering over it. | ||
| Big tech's been pouring money in. | ||
| I had no clue. | ||
| I just figured that Texas was just like California so that it wasn't even being looked at by the other side. | ||
| Yeah, California used to be deeper red than Texas. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Just 40 years ago. | ||
| Yeah, they just took it over with fraud. | ||
| Has Texas ever gone blue? | ||
| No, not since Nixon. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| And then, yeah, I agree. | ||
| I think it seems really early for a lot of those states to be calling it already. | ||
| So why can't everyone else operate like Florida? | ||
| Florida seems to just have it smooth and figured out. | ||
| It was all smooth. | ||
| Florida! | ||
| Obama has it figured out! | ||
| It takes weeks. | ||
| Obama was out today saying, it's normal. | ||
| 2020, it took a long time. | ||
| Yeah, the new normal. | ||
| Didn't Florida factor heavily into 2000? | ||
| A lot of Alex's conspiracies about voting machines kind of are rooted in Florida. | ||
| Yeah, based on the way she was sounding, I was thinking she was about to ask if they needed an ID to get alcohol in Texas, because that's how young she is sounding. | ||
| She is a younger lady. | ||
| Her name is Candace Horbach, and she has a podcast called Chatting with Candace. | ||
| She is a former adult actor who decided to move out of that field and into podcasting, which is totally fine. | ||
| Yeah, I like that. | ||
| I'm not shitting on that at all. | ||
| I listened to a little bit of an interview that she did somewhere else, and she seems like a perfectly thoughtful person. | ||
| But in the context of Infowars, she seems off. | ||
| And I kind of mean that as a compliment. | ||
| No, she's asking way too many questions. | ||
| She's trying to get information as opposed to imply information. | ||
| She's asking follow-up questions that you would expect someone to have conversations with. | ||
| But you don't realize that Alex doesn't have an answer for you, and you're not supposed to do this. | ||
| This is not a conversation. | ||
| It is strange whenever people don't understand that questions are just hiding spots for lies. | ||
| She's like, oh, tell me more about this crazy information. | ||
| How is it possible that Texas could go blue? | ||
| And Alex is like, shut the fuck up. | ||
| I'm just laying groundwork. | ||
| And it's really funny, too, because if you're watching this, Alex is staring off at the camera, and she's looking at him, and that really perfectly depicts this vibe that's going on. | ||
| She's having a conversation, or thinks she is, and Alex is yelling something. | ||
| We're on TV. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So all that shit Alex is saying is bullshit, but she doesn't really have much of a choice but to nod along whenever he gives an answer to one of her questions. | ||
| Or else she has to be like, what are you talking about? | ||
| And then this whole thing is off the rails. | ||
| It falls apart immediately. | ||
| Also, Nixon lost Texas in 1968 to Hubert Humphrey, but then won it in 72. Sure. | ||
| After that, Carter won Texas in 1976, and it's gone red in every general election since Reagan in 1980. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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This coverage is a perfect blend of made-up storylines, false interpretations, and then also demonstrably untrue facts. | |
| Yep. | ||
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That just... | |
| There you go. | ||
| That's what you need. | ||
| So, I think that this woman, Candace, is kind of an interesting variable that gets thrown in. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Because like you're saying, she's asking some questions. | ||
| I don't think that she has good perspectives on stuff. | ||
| I assume that I would disagree with her on almost everything. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But she's asking questions. | ||
| Which is not good. | ||
| There's too many ideas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I guess my question with Texas is, do you think that the reason why it was showing blue earlier on is because we had this huge influx of people from California? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And then it seemed like the government here was trying to almost make it really unfriendly for them and made it really, really conservative to the point where now they're kind of rebelling. | ||
| Well, I mean, a lot of the Democrats, as you know, come here from California and other places just because it's collapsed and they just want money. | ||
| And they try to do different studies and statistics. | ||
| Maybe 30% wake up. | ||
| But the majority still are just dumber than a box of rocks and they come here and turn it into San Francisco. | ||
| And so, yeah, that's it. | ||
| So then do you think the solution would be to be less conservative so that it's more appealing to those people that are moving in? | ||
| Like, still be Republican, still be conservative, but instead of trying to push them out by making it unfriendly, you maybe actually go a little bit more towards the middle? | ||
| Yeah, the left don't even really know about issues. | ||
| The average left is they just follow the orders of the party. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And they're very politically dumb. | ||
| And so there's no making deals with them. | ||
| They just follow the corporate orders. | ||
| It's like, I'm liberal. | ||
| I'm the anointed one. | ||
| I love everybody. | ||
| Now do what I say, World War III, and cut kids' penises off. | ||
| And it's just, they're corporate bots. | ||
| It's all BlackRock social engineering programming. | ||
| They just do what they're told. | ||
| They're in a cult. | ||
| So then how do you, you can't not let people come in the state, I suppose, unless you do secede from this. | ||
| That's a very important question. | ||
| We're going to get back to that. | ||
| In a moment. | ||
| Let's go ahead and see if General Flynn's ready. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| General Flynn. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So this is the sort of moment that gives me a little bit of pause about Candace. | ||
| This is an actual question, which is super rare on Alex's show. | ||
| People are moving from California to Texas, and to punish them, Texas has gone super conservative to the point where it's kind of unpleasant to live there for most humans. | ||
| This seems antithetical to the supposed goal of creating a better state for people to live in. | ||
| If the state insists on being hyper-conservative as a reaction to more liberal people moving to the state, then it stands to reason that this is just going to create a backlash where Texas goes blue eventually. | ||
| So isn't it actually in the GOP's best interest to compromise a little bit and create a center-right power structure that's more durable than an extreme fringe one that they're trying to install that's really easy to fall apart? | ||
| This question implies an ability to think and engage with an idea, which Alex doesn't do all that well with. | ||
| Most of the people that he has on the show are more experienced with the game, and they wouldn't even ask a question like this, so Alex's only way to shut it down is to rattle off some buzzwords about how compromise isn't possible, his enemies aren't really even people, and then quickly jump to another subject. | ||
| Their energies don't match at all. | ||
| This is a bad vibe. | ||
| You cannot be interested in the answer to your question. | ||
| She seems like she is. | ||
| She really genuinely would like to know, which is the last thing you can do in this space. | ||
| Like, it is literally, like, you understand that we're playing a game, answers like the ones you're looking for shouldn't exist, and we definitely don't want regular people knowing them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we got General Flynn coming on, though. | ||
| Great! | ||
| We've also had Luke... | ||
| Radkowski. | ||
| Radkowski. | ||
| Radowski. | ||
| No, it's not Radowski, because that's what we have called him. | ||
| I started doing the I don't remember how to pronounce his name as a bit. | ||
| To the point now where you don't remember how to pronounce his name. | ||
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I really don't know if I do. | |
| I don't know how to pronounce his name. | ||
| But he's on... | ||
| Somebody whose nickname is Don't Tase Me was on with him. | ||
| Like him? | ||
| Sounds great. | ||
| Some chemtrail whistleblower. | ||
| He had a real round table of luminaries. | ||
| Don't Tase Me, I love it. | ||
| But General Flynn comes in, and he brings possibly... | ||
| The stars are out, alright? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| The guy that the system fears. | ||
| General Flynn, thank you and your busy schedule for briefly joining us to give us an update since we talked five, six hours ago. | ||
| General, what's the latest? | ||
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Yeah, so for everybody, and Alex, thank you so much. | |
| I have joining me here the owner of Papa John's Pizza. | ||
| He's got about, what, 6,000 stores, right? | ||
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6,000. | |
| Good to be here, General. | ||
| Go, Trump! | ||
| He's got Papa John with him. | ||
| Hey, General Flynn, what's going on? | ||
| I'm hanging out with Papa John, racist pizza guy. | ||
| You know, I may be pretty, pretty, I mean, at this point, among our listeners at the very least, I'm known for being angry about things from time to time. | ||
| I don't know why, but General Flynn and Papa John together on election night, no. | ||
| No, I demand we all stand up and say no. | ||
| Finally, it is time to no longer be another brick in the wall, Dan. | ||
| We say no to this. | ||
| I felt like I had to take a breath. | ||
| When he went to Mike Flynn and then Papa John was there. | ||
| Mike Flynn and Papa John! | ||
| What does that even mean? | ||
| I felt very similarly in that moment to how... | ||
| Alex must have felt when he went to interview the Bells and Christopher Walken was there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's like that. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I think I'm going to just interview General Flynn. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| What's going on, Papa John? | ||
| Papa John! | ||
| I mean, I would say that if there was a President and Bozo the Clown standing next to each other, I would feel similarly, and I would ask Bozo so many questions. | ||
| I would be far more interested in his life. | ||
| It seems like a bit of a promotional opportunity for Papa John's. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But he's not still involved with Papa John's, right? | ||
| Because he says the N-word a lot. | ||
| I think publicly he might be less of their mascot. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I... | ||
| I think he still owns the whole... | ||
| Okay, probably. | ||
| So, Alex, here's where I think we're at. | ||
| This is for your great audience. | ||
| And when we were on earlier, Alex, I think we had over 250,000 viewers. | ||
| We probably have doubled that number by the time... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Let me just tell you, that was one feed you were looking at. | ||
| We had about, not counting our other systems, millions listing while you were on. | ||
| Alex cares. | ||
| Now on our online streams, there's 5 million people on them right now. | ||
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Yeah, beautiful. | |
| I love it. | ||
| Five million viewers, okay? | ||
| Sitting here with Papa John. | ||
| So Papa John's gonna owe me a couple of pizzas here, right? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| This is... | ||
| MTV Spring Break in 1998. | ||
| This is whenever there would just be pool parties, and MTV would just wander around the pool and be like, hey, what do you think about this to some random stranger? | ||
| And they would give as insightful an answer as, maybe I should give you free pizza! | ||
| Yeah, we have Mussolini hosting The Grind. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| R.I.P. | ||
| The grind. | ||
| So, we got just, like, this should be on a shirt. | ||
| We're about to win a major battle. | ||
| I hope you're right. | ||
| But the real war is about to start. | ||
| Any closing comments from Papa John? | ||
| Yeah, last thing. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| Totally agree. | ||
| This is a good versus evil. | ||
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I mean, we got... | |
| This is a good versus evil. | ||
| I mean, no doubt about that. | ||
| And Trump's our guy. | ||
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But we got the Super Bowl tonight. | |
| And it's Patriots versus the Steelers, and Trump's our guy. | ||
| So I just, I can't think of something that is beyond, I can't think of something funnier than closing words from Papa John. | ||
| Papa John, we're in the fourth quarter of a Patriots versus Steelers Super Bowl. | ||
| Not the Raiders Super Bowl where the fumble, and it was snowing. | ||
| No, we're in the Patriots-Steelers Super Bowl. | ||
| And that's, I mean, Trump is like Jerome Bettis, but before that, in the past. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| This is a battle between good and evil. | ||
| I am maybe wildly impaired. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Papa John hanging out with General Flynn. | ||
| Oh, what did you do last night? | ||
| Ah, man, I was hanging out with drunk Papa John and Mike Flynn as we watched the results of the election. | ||
| I think he might have been, I leave room that he might have been hungover. | ||
| He just looked, he looked like a rough greaser. | ||
| He looked a little haggard. | ||
| Okay, fair enough, fair enough. | ||
| So, I think that basically the plot of the night is there's a lot of it's gonna be stolen kind of conspiracies early, just in case. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But that the mood becomes Trump's gonna win pretty smoothly. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| There's this hiccup of, like, Texas could go blue. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But then I think that a lot of the energy is kind of just... | ||
| It looks like Trump's gonna win. | ||
| Oh, we're just gonna do it. | ||
| Yeah, and they're getting all of their information and updates about the map and all this from mainstream media sources. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Saying that he's not gonna win. | ||
| And so they kind of get into a holding pattern of... | ||
| I guess he's going to win. | ||
| And so then the story becomes Owen getting really mad about how Trump needs to declare victory now. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In case they try to steal it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Right. | |
| By just having Harris declare victory beforehand. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then the mainstream media will back her up. | ||
| Or they're going to bring in all these illegal fake votes late in the night when no one's paying attention. | ||
| So Trump needs to declare now to shut that down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that becomes kind of the way that they try to make things interesting at all, but it doesn't really work. | ||
| No. | ||
| It feels a little bit flat. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it was nice. | ||
| For a brief moment, the entire country shared a reality together. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We all agreed on what was happening for a little bit. | ||
| And I think we can share another reality, even with Harrison Smith. | ||
| And Alex's co-host, Candace. | ||
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Great. | |
| And that is, we're not interested in Alex's impressions. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Virginia is leaning Trump at this point by about half a percent. | ||
| So, again, still very, very, very close, and we're, you know, less than an hour out from when polls closed. | ||
| So, it's thrilling, but it's looking better as we go. | ||
| And if Trump gets in, this will be a day long remembered. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| We're too nervous to laugh right now. | ||
| Megatron, prepare to die. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| No, it's looking good. | ||
| Looking good. | ||
| No one's in the mood for that shit. | ||
| And Alex is doing a Darth Vader impression where he was celebrating having killed Obi-Wan Kenobi, which is unquestionably a villainous moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex's mind goes to that because he wants the Empire to rise, and seeing Trump's favorable results, it excites him in a way that reminds him of Darth Vader crushing the Rebels in Star Wars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The fact that this is a little too obvious is probably why you get this uncomfortable laughter from Harrison and Candace, because it's like, oh. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Or it could just not be funny. | ||
| It's that, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's not funny. | ||
| No, and if you're Harrison, you've heard this a lot. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| He does this impression. | ||
| It never stops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, even Harrison is probably like, man, you understand that the theme of that exact scene is that by indulging in the murder, he is sealing his own fate. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And he's not... | ||
| One to be emulated. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's not good. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even if you are emulating him, the lesson is you're going to, by doing this, you are failing. | ||
| But maybe you're succeeding because Darth Vader then kills the Emperor and helps Luke win. | ||
| Sure, but then he dies in the Death Star. | ||
| Yeah, but he's got to. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll give you that. | ||
| Alex, you're gonna die in the Death Star. | ||
| You're gonna die in the Death Star. | ||
| So I just have a couple more clips of this dynamic between Alex and Candace. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beyond the, like, Rogan's been bullshitting this whole time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That kind of moment is very, like, that to me is interesting about this coverage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's stuff like, you know, Steven Crowder and him simul-streamed and Alex took off his shirt. | ||
| To try and get attention. | ||
| That's sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is genuinely sad. | ||
| I've seen him rip off his shirt when he's drunk. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's kind of sad, but also like, I get what's going on here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This was a man who was self-aware as he was taking off his shirt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That like, I just want attention and maybe someone will make a meme of this. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And it really bummed me out. | ||
| He was just trying to sell CMOS. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's a sadder Burt Kreischer. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Both have involvement with the Russians. | ||
| That's true! | ||
| So, Alex and Candace's vibe was probably one of the few things that I was like, ah, I'm paying attention here. | ||
| So here's one clip of Alex explaining something about Kamala Harris to Candace. | ||
| And that's why when her teleprompter goes off, she doesn't know what to do. | ||
| She's like, I'm just here. | ||
| To push some agenda. | ||
| So they're not looking for anyone that actually is going to create any change or that's going to serve the American people. | ||
| They have the idea that we, the people, somehow owe them our freedom. | ||
| Candace Owens was on last week, and she did the deep dive on her. | ||
| And I've read dozens of books on MKUltra and the congressional hearings and interviewed a lot of guests over the years. | ||
| But I hadn't really done the deep dive on her genealogy like Candace did. | ||
| And once she talked about it, I looked up, it's true. | ||
| Her whole family is like CIA. | ||
| She was connected to an MKUltra program. | ||
| And when she said it, I went, wait, that's why she's always different personalities or doesn't seem like the same person and is an empty vessel. | ||
| And we know Obama's whole family was CIA. | ||
| And, of course, that's the project is put your people in. | ||
| So I don't know if she's MKUltra, but definitely she's connected to all that. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| Absolutely wild. | ||
| But as soon as she said it, it clicked. | ||
| Then I went and looked it up. | ||
| I mean, no, that would make a lot of sense. | ||
| That would make a lot of sense. | ||
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Oh, you sweet idiot. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| This is that issue of, like, she's clearly demonstrated an ability to ask follow-up questions and have some kind of engagement with an idea. | ||
| But at the same time, she is on with Alex, which is a choice that she made, which is bad. | ||
| And then she has to, like, hear that barrage of nonsense. | ||
| And what do you do? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I mean, she engages with it the way that you're supposed to engage with a superior legend, where she's like, oh, wow, that's information you've told me. | ||
| You know, that's the way you're supposed to engage with somebody who is supposedly above you in the pecking order. | ||
| Yeah, there's an amount of credibility that's given to these nonsensical things Alex says, which is unfortunate. | ||
| I mean, it's really unfortunate because there's not much behind what Alex is saying. | ||
| And if she were to really interrogate some of this stuff, I think that maybe she would realize that she's talking to an idiot. | ||
| I just want to say, thank God for the Great Awakening and whatever God's plan is, but thank God... | ||
| Candace Horbach, you've been sitting here for 20 minutes while we're ranting, but you're getting pretty excited. | ||
| What are you making of this? | ||
| No, I was going to say, can we explain the significance of this to the people? | ||
| Because everyone's really just looking at Trump and Kamala, so the significance of this seat. | ||
| Well, if we win the Senate, which it looks like it's been done now, and half the states are more reporting, then we'll probably get more seats. | ||
| And so if we gain in the House and the Senate, then Trump gets sent. | ||
| It's called the trifecta. | ||
| We have the legislative, we have the executive, and we have the judicial. | ||
| And then we can actually purge the deep state legally and lawfully with the trifecta. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure you've got that, but you want me to define it for people? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, and I think that's really exciting, too, because it's really hard, even if you have someone that you want to win that gets the presidential election, if he has everyone working against him, it's like, how much change can he actually be effective with? | ||
| So, yeah, that's really great news. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, I mean, he needs the infrastructure, the runway. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So that's really good. | ||
| So how are you feeling right now? | ||
| So this is, I mean, I think it's indicative of, like, what they're doing. | ||
| This is not serious. | ||
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No. | |
| This is a person who is your co-host for the night who is asking you about what does it mean that the Senate races are happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
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No. | |
| And then Alex's answer that he gives to that is so surface level and so meaningless that... | ||
| have much engagement with any of what these results mean or anything. | ||
| He just knows red, good, blue, bad. | ||
| And if we take control of all the branches of government, we'll be able to change what is legal. | ||
| The Constitution can be amended, you dicks. | ||
| We can just do that. | ||
| Yeah, that's how it works. | ||
| Laws aren't real. | ||
| So he's giving a shallow answer to a question that she's asking that reveals a complete non-awareness of the reality of the election beyond the superficial optics and the social media bullshit that probably is a large part of her information base. | ||
| And so you have a not serious situation here. | ||
| And then you have... | ||
| Let's go talk to fucking General Flynn. | ||
| Oh, he's hanging out with Papa John. | ||
| Oh, let's go talk to Stephen Crowder. | ||
| I'll take my shirt off to sell sea moss. | ||
| This isn't serious, is what I'm saying. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I mean, you know, it doesn't matter, though. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| Like, for them, even if, you know, there's no need to, because it's a battle of good and evil. | ||
| In the battle of God versus the devil, you're not like, oh, how's Archangel Michael doing? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, you don't care. | ||
| It's God versus the devil. | ||
| Well, if you're serious about the devil or the God, you should care about how Archangel Michael's doing. | ||
| I mean, I don't even know how to begin. | ||
| Responding to those collections of thoughts put together. | ||
| If there is a balance of power and, you know, checks and balances that Archangel Michael has, maybe you should care a little. | ||
| But I get what you're saying, too. | ||
| I understand, but Dan, you're why we have... | ||
| Fucking trade embargoes in The Phantom Menace, man. | ||
| I don't give a shit about trade embargoes. | ||
| I don't give a shit! | ||
| Well, ironically, we'll probably see a number of that mirrored in the real world. | ||
| It seems right! | ||
| And probably a lot of racist accents in the future. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And you are going to be Jar Jar Binks. | ||
| No, wait. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Look at the hair. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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Look at the headband. | |
| I'm Greg Proops. | ||
| I'm the announcer doing pod racing. | ||
| Yeah, that's me. | ||
| That's what I'm going to do. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I guess I'm the other head guy. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| We got two heads. | ||
| Pod race announcers. | ||
| We're just doing it. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| I don't want to be on that. | ||
| That's Tatooine, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't want to be on that planet. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's too dry. | ||
| I don't like sand. | ||
| It gets everywhere. | ||
| Wait, am I Anakin? | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| You just murdered Obi-Wan. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Anyway, I don't really want to spend a whole lot of time on the full stream. | ||
| Because I don't really think it's all that interesting. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And my time's limited at the moment. | ||
| So we'll get back for Monday with a little bit of regrouping and seeing how the chips have fallen with Alex. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, I think this was kind of uninspired on Alex's part, and I hope that between this and the coming auction, he's able to get to a point where there's a point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think one thing that I think people need to understand most about the media and the politicians in this particular circumstance is that the fun is in not winning. | ||
| For Alex, yeah. | ||
| See what I'm saying? | ||
| The fun is in being not responsible for anything that's going on. | ||
| Oh, it's their fault! | ||
| The fun is in being like, these people are bad! | ||
| The fun is not in being like, we should do stuff. | ||
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That sucks. | |
| Well, the fun is also in the, like, we have to stop the steal. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| And you could tell there was a little bit of a disappointment how uneventful... | ||
| Revealing of the results and all of that was for them in the moment. | ||
| It was like, we've got to create some kind of drama here. | ||
| Is Trump's plane going to blow up? | ||
| Their best result is Trump wins the electoral college and loses the popular vote. | ||
| Because then they can do the whole thing of like, it was secretly still blah blah blah blah. | ||
| You know, that whole thing. | ||
| Honestly, their best result is probably like, if something happens and Trump... | ||
| Doesn't make it to office. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like, he dies of old age or something, and then they can make a conspiracy out of that. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Vance is disappointing, so he's kind of like the enemy. | ||
| Oh no, he'd be so effective. | ||
| Well, he would, but not from a media perspective. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, Alex would be unsatisfied by what he presents. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so he could pretend like, we need to go further, or whatever. | ||
| Anyway, we'll see what happens, but we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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