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Nov. 11, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#980: November 6, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan look at the day after the 2024 election where the evidence begins to mount that Alex is knowingly or accidentally working for the devil.

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alex jones
25:31
d
dan friesen
41:41
j
jordan holmes
23:48
Appearances
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matt bracken
01:27
Clips
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harrison smith
00:41
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martin a armstrong
00:14
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owen shroyer
00:25
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steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:03
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding me.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about...
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
owen shroyer
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is just living in the calm.
jordan holmes
Living in the calm.
dan friesen
We've got the election just happened in a little bit.
We've got Alex's auction coming up, and we're in this sort of middle space where we can kind of catch our breath a little bit.
jordan holmes
See the wreckage on all sides, and yet...
Everything seems calm right now.
So strange.
dan friesen
Yeah, the eye of the hurricane has that feeling, and I'm kind of getting myself braced for the impact of whatever happens with that auction.
jordan holmes
Could be anything.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Could be anything.
dan friesen
I tensed up for the election, and now I'm sort of like, ooh, just letting my muscles kind of move around a little, and I'm going to tense up again.
jordan holmes
Got to limber up just to get back down to work.
Yeah, I gotcha.
dan friesen
So that's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is the shower is done.
It's done.
It's been installed.
We see it.
And I was thinking about it, and it's a lovely shower, but you know me.
I don't understand or appreciate things fundamentally.
But I was thinking about it in this term.
There are bills for me.
That I've just decided I'm going to have forever.
The college loans, I'm never going to pay those off, so I just write that off.
This has turned into one of them.
Five years ago, we needed a car, so then we paid that off over five years, and now we're going to pay this off over five years.
Now it's just a liminal space between when we have something...
To when we fix the next thing, you know?
So it's at the beginning of paying for it, and now we're already like, ooh, in five years, we'll get a new oven.
Swear to God, we're going to get that new oven.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, we just got to pay it off.
dan friesen
And it's, you know, in five years, you will have paid this off, but you'll also have a five-year-old shower at that time.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
But, I mean, again, that's fine with me.
jordan holmes
The other one could have been 30 years old.
I don't know.
Right.
What I'm saying is that at the end of paying this shower off, it's not the end of the bill.
There's just going to be another bill.
dan friesen
Right.
You kind of have to think of it almost like this paying off of the shower is actually paying for the next thing.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just the moment you see some plus.
In the bank register, it's like, ah, that's gotta go.
That's gotta go.
dan friesen
Did you ever think back when you were younger and like a rock and roll type of fella?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That you'd be thinking about paying off home improvement bills?
jordan holmes
Let me put it to you this way.
I am not thinking about it at all.
I'm just giving whatever I have to her.
dan friesen
You're thinking about your wife thinking about it.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly, exactly.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
If she told me we had replaced the shower and didn't do anything, I'd be like, wow, what a...
Great-looking shower!
dan friesen
Just cleaned the shower.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I would not have known.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about November 6th, 2024, the day after the election.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So Trump has won.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex wants...
He has to get into studio and give the message, right?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, all eyes...
jordan holmes
Now's the time.
dan friesen
...on InfoWars.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And we'll see how he decides to do that.
unidentified
Probably great.
dan friesen
Oh, he's so good!
jordan holmes
Probably great.
dan friesen
This episode...
Is a mess.
And we'll get out of business on that, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wongs.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I took a look through that bus station guy's telescope, and you know what I saw?
A live pelican.
Thank you so much, you're an Apple Zewonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wong.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
That's a deep cut.
dan friesen
That's old.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, my roommate thinks I'm red-pilled, because all I do when I get home is listen to Knowledge Fight in my room with the door closed, screaming at video games, and I don't care!
Thank you so much, you're an Apple Zewonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Maybe you're green-pilled.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Isn't that Alex's thing that he never explained?
jordan holmes
Oh, is that the new one?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm out of pills.
dan friesen
Next, Jordan.
You wished us a creamy, dreamy wedding in 2022, and now, in your honors, Michaela, I demand that we name our first child Jordan.
Thank you so much for now, policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Don't do that.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
And I'm going to make you listen to this bit of the podcast, George.
Also, hi, Shiggy and Amy.
Thank you so much.
You're not a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
So, Alex was obviously broadcasting quite a bit on the night of the election, and he gets back up the next day, and he's right on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Giving a very severe message to the ships at sea.
jordan holmes
Already things are bad.
dan friesen
Uh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh!
alex jones
Well, you know what time it is, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's the war.
alex jones
We just won a big battle.
But the war is far from over.
unidentified
InfoWars.
alex jones
Tomorrow's news.
jordan holmes
Today.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we won the election and now it's time for war.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
If we'd lost the election, also time for war.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
You know what?
The more I think about it, the more I think, I have only ever experienced one election where people felt like they won after they won the election.
Like that 08 Obama election where everybody was like, we all won.
Even the racists were like, hey, we don't live in a racist country anymore.
There was a day where we all felt like we won.
Nobody's felt like they won shit.
owen shroyer
I don't know.
dan friesen
What about 96?
jordan holmes
What?
When we beat Dole?
dan friesen
What about 92?
What about Ross Perot?
There was a feeling of...
jordan holmes
He didn't win, though.
I'm sure everybody felt like they won the moment he started talking.
dan friesen
Wait a second.
jordan holmes
The country won, really.
dan friesen
Perot didn't win?
jordan holmes
Well...
dan friesen
Hold on a second.
Is this a Mandela effect?
jordan holmes
In a metaphorical way.
Perot won against all of us.
dan friesen
So Alex has a big story that's coming to the forefront.
This is, I would say, the thrust of his coverage on the day after the election.
alex jones
You know, I can't do it on command of my own.
I only do it when the angel stands right behind me, tells me to do it to show people.
God told me to do it a few times to Tucker Carlson.
Somebody calls me the most extraordinary person he's ever met.
That's not me.
Last night, we were predicting when Trump would give his victory speech long before they'd said even won.
And I said...
unidentified
127.
alex jones
And I just saw the number 127 was told to say 127.
And I literally sat there and went, folks say that?
Okay, said it.
It's never wrong.
And I've told you a lot about that on air.
God will say, get up.
I'll leave my cell phone in the bathroom.
I'll turn it on.
Don't have a clock in my bedroom.
So does that little travel alarm clock that's in the drawer.
So I'm going to turn that on.
But God will say, okay, I don't want you looking at the clock in the drawer.
I don't want it to be digital, atomic.
Get up and walk in the bathroom.
Hurry up.
Turn it on.
It's going to be 4 a.m.
4 a.m., okay?
Now start counting down 14 seconds and it'll be 4-0-1.
I know, God, I know you're there.
Oh, it's exactly on the second.
Okay.
unidentified
You have to pee.
alex jones
I do this all the time.
I mean, you see it on air.
I said what time he would come out to the second he would speak.
And I just saw 127.
I wasn't sure if it was central or eastern.
It was eastern.
Yeah, eastern.
So my point is, that's how powerful God is.
So people make fun of Tucker Carlson talking about the demon attacking him.
dan friesen
Yeah, they do.
They do.
And I'll continue to.
So once again, God has decided to show himself by telling Alex Jones something about a clock.
That's cute, and I'm glad that his playground-level brags about supernatural powers impress the audience, but this is so dumb.
To clarify a little bit, Alex did predict that Trump would speak at 127.
He made that prediction earlier in the night.
It was at 11.35 Central Time, and Alex said, I'm projecting, which is a 95% prediction, I'm predicting that at 1.27 Trump will come out on stage.
This was supposed to be 1.27 Eastern Time, because Alex was explicitly saying that Trump was going to declare victory within an hour.
Here is that prediction from the night before in its larger context.
harrison smith
Which is just amazing.
And if you go to, I think Jack Posobiec tweeted it out.
I retweeted it.
The map that shows which direction the vote moved, whether it moved red or blue and how far.
And I mean, the entire country shifted red significantly.
So, I mean, it's not possible that he didn't win at this point.
And everybody I see on X is basically saying the same thing.
He needs to announce.
Why is he not announcing?
I mean, people are very eager to get this over with.
alex jones
Well, I understand why they're doing it.
He's got to be careful, although spin it back like he declared too early.
But it's a sweet spot.
He needs to do it within one hour.
I predict at...
It's 11.35 here.
Let's go with Eastern time.
It's 12.35 Eastern.
I predict...
unidentified
Let me think here.
alex jones
I am projecting, which is about a 95% prediction.
I am predicting that at...
127, Trump comes out on the stage.
127.
You guys want to call a number?
Make a bet here?
owen shroyer
I think he comes out at, I think we're 25 minutes away.
harrison smith
I was going to say pretty much the same thing, that it's going to be at exactly 1. What are we doing?
12 p.m. or 12 a.m. Central Time.
Apparently Kamala Harris has announced she will not be speaking at her...
dan friesen
So Trump wouldn't take the stage until after 2 a.m. Eastern Time.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so with proper context of Alex's prediction understood, he was way off.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But even if we assume that God just gave Alex the wrong time zone, it would still be pretty wild if Trump got on stage at 2.27.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, it would be a coincidence, but still, it falls nicely into the whole God tells me times thing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, Trump appeared from behind the backstage curtain at 2.25 a.m., two minutes off from Alex's adjusted prediction time.
unidentified
Ouch.
dan friesen
But maybe what God was telling Alex was when Trump would begin speaking.
Like, he would grandstand for two minutes and then the speech would start at 2.27.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If we allow this loose interpretation of Alex's prophetic abilities, then Trump started speaking saying thank you before USA chants broke out mere seconds before 228.
But Alex did literally say that he's going to come on stage at 127, not that he would start speaking at 127.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
This is a man who is desperate to build up his mythology.
Tucker gets attacked by demons now, so what really makes Alex that special?
Not a whole lot, other than...
God talks to him about the time for some reason.
But this is the big takeaway from the election, is that Alex predicted this time on air.
jordan holmes
You know, I think a lot of people have, over the years, kind of pointed out that Jesus' miracles have a wide range of, like, miraculousness-ness, if you will.
You know, you've got the mud, and then you've got the guy can see now.
That's pretty miraculous.
Then you've got the water to wine.
Maybe not as important.
You know, as bringing a man's very eyesight back from the dead?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But still miraculous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, but I mean, if it was that relative...
I think we would be looking at the relative nature of turning water into wine versus telling the time.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah, if God guessed something, or if Jesus guessed something, that would be a dull book.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be ridiculous.
dan friesen
Dull part of the Bible.
jordan holmes
This would be absurd.
Well, I mean, he didn't turn it into wine so much as there's a little vinegar.
He poured a little vinegar in there.
That's what we're talking about here.
dan friesen
If one of Jesus' miracles was...
Just guessing something, and you really had to stretch to make yourself accurate.
Just not good.
jordan holmes
And that was when Jesus said, there are 2,144 little marshmallows in the jar.
And there were 2,143.
God is good.
Not now.
Not now, not anymore.
We got one.
Whenever there was only one set of mushrooms, Irv, never mind.
dan friesen
So Alex comes from a great line of spiritualists.
He is very clearly blessed with abilities.
They're beyond mortals.
And the reason is because of his family.
alex jones
And I just thought I'd start the broadcast with that today.
I'll play the clip, but it's not about me.
Because...
I'm just a channel that comes through.
Like my mother's grandmother, who was not in the books or anything, but was pretty much the most famous with the establishment.
Psychic.
For quite a while, presidents came to visit her in Dallas.
She's a channeler.
And I wasn't even told about that until I think she died when I was about eight years old.
Very nice lady.
But a great oil painter, too.
She liked to drink Jack Daniels.
But, uh...
You know, that's that.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is that.
jordan holmes
Explain to me how that's that?
dan friesen
I believe that she was probably a painter who liked to drink.
jordan holmes
What about that is exactly that?
What that is that?
dan friesen
She pretended to be a channeler?
jordan holmes
That's that?
Well, that's that.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
No, that is an unacceptable one.
Presidents should not have been going.
You shouldn't be okay with presidents or anybody asking a mirror.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know how much of any of that is even true or just Alex's family lore.
jordan holmes
Furthermore, that's not a god medium.
She was a psychic.
She's a witch.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alex is claiming witchhood in his past, which greatly...
Maybe she made a pact with the devil to trick her grandson into thinking that God was the devil, and there we are.
It all makes sense now.
dan friesen
And the devil paid her in Jake Daniels.
jordan holmes
Yep.
That is...
It's all coming clear.
dan friesen
And that's why Alex is a Tito's man.
jordan holmes
Done.
Praise him.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks a little bit about something...
He probably shouldn't be...
He probably shouldn't say this on air.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Roger Stone is very smart and did predict Trump would win last night.
He said it would probably be announced in the early morning hours.
He said it Sunday, so Roger nailed it.
I mean, I really can't remember when he was wrong.
He said to me probably, Trump's going to lose four years ago.
And I go, what do you mean?
He goes, well, he's going to have a narrow victory.
He tells you the truth on air, but it's for political consumption, so he holds back bad news.
But privately, he's the best there is.
That's why they want him in prison.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
It seems like Alex is just admitting that a whole lot of his friends are liars now that Trump won.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He tells the truth on air, but he tells me different things off air.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
During the election coverage, Alex just came out and said that Rogan had been pretending to be nonpartisan in order to manipulate his audience, and now I guess it's just fine to admit that Roger Stone has been manipulating the informer's audience about the 2020 election this whole time, too.
This is what Alex wants to present.
Roger knew that the steal was going to be too big in 2020, so privately he was open with Alex about how Trump was going to lose the election.
He didn't want to admit that on air because that would be demoralizing, so he lied to the audience and said Trump was going to win.
For political purposes, he needed to spread misinformation.
But what's actually going on here is much simpler.
Roger knew that Trump was going to lose in 2020, and pretending he was going to win was the only path to power.
If Roger and all these ding-dongs said Trump might lose in the lead-up to the 2020 election, then they would have a much harder time convincing people that the election was stolen.
In order to push election fraud narratives, Rogers had to make up preposterous shit like North Korean boats full of ballots being sent to the U.S. So for his public image to make any sense, he needed to have the presentation that he did.
He needed to exude confidence.
And it seems unclear to me how much Alex understands that he's just telling the audience, we lie to you for your own good.
But if I were listening to him, I don't think I would love that.
I think that this would be a real problem.
jordan holmes
See, no, no, no, we were using, it was a strategy.
We told you false things.
You believed them.
We behaved as though they were true.
And now that we have achieved our goal, we can abandon those falsehoods and you yourself.
dan friesen
Because we probably couldn't get you to do the thing that we wanted you to do if we had told you the truth.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
You're a sucker.
dan friesen
Feels like that's a vibe that's coming out on his show.
jordan holmes
You're all a bunch of suckers, dum-dums.
dan friesen
So it turns out the 2024 election was stolen.
Or at least they tried.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They tried.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you gotta say that they tried.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
They showed up with all their fake ballots.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex's friends were there.
unidentified
Oh, heroic.
dan friesen
And so they couldn't get away with it.
alex jones
All over the country, in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, the trucks arrived at one in the morning, all places on TV, but the news was all waiting.
Independent Media was there for every project.
The different projects like O 'Keefe Media Group were all there.
Crowder's people were there.
Those key states.
And when the big trucks pulled in with the ballots and the police and everybody were staring at them, they couldn't do the steal.
That's kind of like if you have a canary and you've got a cat and the canary's in a high cage and the cat doesn't try to get to the canary when you're home, but you go to church or whatever and come back and somehow the cat has climbed all the way up on top of the drapes and then jumped.
15 feet out in the middle of the room and knock the birdcage down and the canary didn't get eaten, but it's up in the rafters.
That actually happened about five years ago with my dog.
jordan holmes
I was going to say that's a very specific example.
alex jones
Two canaries.
And I said, we've got two cats.
And I said, they'll go after them.
And because I knew that because...
I wanted a canary.
When I was a kid, my mom had a cat, and my dad had put it in a big cage about six feet up in the middle, and the cat still found a way in a big room to get somewhere and get on top of it.
Sure enough, you know, the canary...
Canaries were there.
We actually went to for about a week.
dan friesen
So Steven Crowder found some people with fake ballots in a joke.
jordan holmes
Am I having a stroke?
dan friesen
What's happening here?
jordan holmes
What just happened?
dan friesen
So you might notice that Alex is always more than ready to get into exhaustive detail about meaningless meandering stories about things like his thoughts on canaries.
But when he's discussing all this supposed voter fraud that his buddies stopped, it's a little thin on information.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's kind of eager to jump off that topic and ramble by birds because he doesn't really have any information about these ballots showing up.
that Crowder stopped.
Generally speaking, the more information you have about a story, the more unlikely you are to see Alex as a credible source.
That's why he'll just make these sweeping, definitive conclusions and then fill space with dumb shit about birds.
No, he just wants to talk to you about his...
Fucking birds.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That got eaten by his cat.
jordan holmes
I do like this conception, though, just because it has no bearing on reality in either direction.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, okay, so they tried to steal, but they failed.
That is equivalent to just regular failing like they did.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, either way, these people need to be fired.
dan friesen
Right.
No, I mean, this is just the way of saving face while jettisoning the need to investigate the election.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Because based on everything that they've been saying in the lead-up, you know, we need to litigate this thing forever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, absolutely.
dan friesen
But they don't want to get bogged down in that now.
They want to just move on.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, their argument was we have to be too much of a wave, a tsunami, can't steal the tsunami or whatever the fuck it was, you know?
dan friesen
Hashtag too big to rig.
jordan holmes
Too big to rig.
That's what it is.
So then they should say, yes, we did it, or we were lying.
This is weird, because it suggests that it still wasn't too big to rig.
Instead, it was just, we had two-by-fours outside of ballot cards.
dan friesen
Stephen Crowder happened to be at the right place at the right time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
Is that what we're doing?
Everybody was hanging out in the sewers like the Foot Clan?
What is happening?
dan friesen
It's a little bit of a more...
It works better for exciting storytelling.
jordan holmes
It does.
dan friesen
The idea that they were there and they stopped these ballots.
But I think that, honestly, if that is the case, which it's not, but if it were, then we need those ballots.
We still need to litigate this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
I mean, like, Steven Crowder and all these people...
Stopped people from trying to deliver these fake ballots.
That's physical evidence that exists somewhere.
jordan holmes
Nah, I think we're doing clemency.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Look, Trump isn't going to get prosecuted for all of his crimes now that he's a president, and in celebration of that, no one will get prosecuted for other fake crimes that they didn't do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what I'm into?
jordan holmes
What are you into?
dan friesen
Clarence clemency.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
The sex man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the way to do it.
dan friesen
So, you know, obviously one of the biggest things that we're going to be dealing with now is Trump's staffing decisions.
Sure.
unidentified
And the people that he brings in and puts in charge of stuff.
dan friesen
I don't know.
alex jones
This person's good.
And it wasn't that I was so smart.
No one else...
That was good wanted to tell Trump because there were more bad people.
They would gang up on the good people and kick them out.
So the good guys would hide in their offices.
And they still got kicked out.
Flynn didn't hide in his office.
Bannon didn't hide in his office.
So you saw what happened to them.
That was it.
dan friesen
So that sounds nice, but in order to believe this, you have to forget that Alex fucking hated Steve Bannon at the time he's describing.
In the present day, Bannon's a good guy, so Alex is trying to pretend like he always liked him.
But after the 2016 election, Alex and Roger constantly would accuse Bannon of being a leaker and a traitor to Trump.
He was a very convenient scapegoat for a lot of Trump disappointment, and Breitbart was a media competitor with InfoWars, so he was awful for them.
Rewriting this story also really complicates things like Trump making a bunch of appointments that Alex was philosophically against but justified to the audience.
For example, John Bolton was named National Security Advisor, which Alex couldn't have possibly supported given the fact that he was a major player in the Iraq War and was the director of the Project for the New American Century, who Alex thinks wrote a document confessing to planning 9-11.
Either Alex is full of shit about this whole farce about him giving Trump staffing advice, or I guess the alternative Yeah, this is weird.
jordan holmes
I don't like that.
I don't feel like we can do palace intrigue.
Right?
Like, isn't it crazy?
Democracy's over.
They won, so I don't care.
Like, I can't care about his cabinet.
dan friesen
Do you not remember how much of that, like, in 2016, how much of Alex's attention was based on that?
jordan holmes
Totally, but that was before democracy was ended.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, now I understand that dukes are important, but I don't care.
dan friesen
Do you possibly think that Alex won't behave in a similar way?
Focusing on dukes.
jordan holmes
It's infuriating!
Call them dukes!
I'm disgusted by the idea of caring about a cabinet.
dan friesen
We can talk about calling them dukes.
jordan holmes
That's horrifying.
dan friesen
We can do that.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So, Alex tries to strike a little bit of a unity message.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
What?
Sort of a magnanimous...
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
We have won.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we must be nice to the masses.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We have to keep him alive.
He's got to get the right people in the government.
jordan holmes
Chattel.
alex jones
And then all at the same time, we need to be unifying and magnanimous to the victims, the brainwashed zombies of the MSM cult.
Some of them are pure evil, but most of them are just delusional.
Think they're the good guys.
Think they're on the winning team.
Think they're intellectual.
Think they're smart.
They're not street smart for sure.
We've got to be nice to them and let them know that they've been in a cult.
They've been brainwashed.
And everything's a cult.
Everything's a tribe.
They can join the classic Americana.
Everybody around the world saw it and it wasn't perfect.
Boy, it was the best house in a bad neighborhood.
Come on back to America.
Come on.
unidentified
Now...
alex jones
That said, we have to, because justice demands it, not out of vengeance, and because the globals will continue to hurt innocent people if we don't.
It's like having cancer and only cutting part of it out.
The globalist leadership and the people that executed the operations Like Brennan and Clapper and Comey need to be given a fair trial and put in prison.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't give a fuck about being nice to people he thinks are brainwashed on the other side.
He spent plenty of his time on the night before trying to find people crying at the Harris rally so he could mock them.
His content and entire persona is built on mocking and exploiting other people's pain and then acting like a victim.
He can just calm down with this magnanimous shit.
The real message here that Alex is putting forth is that there are two groups of people that make up the enemy and that they should be treated differently.
If someone's not on board with the dumb shit right-wing extremism, they should be giving...
The establishment never tried or even wanted to lock up all the Trump supporters, but Alex reported that as a real thing to be afraid of because that's what he wants to do.
Eventually, if you don't agree to join the cult of Trump, or dare I say even oppose it, What could you possibly be other than a Klaus Schwab follower?
If you don't support fully all the things that Trump wants to do, you support the depopulation of humanity.
You support the devil.
Alex wants to crush dissent by force because his arguments are bad and his information is mostly false.
He had eight years to use the information war to convince me that my political ideology is based on delusion, and I can't be any more clear that if he made a good argument, I wouldn't spend my time calling him a dumb liar.
I would be working my ass off to find a way to convey his message without the very clear racism and various other bigotries that he clearly suffers from as a person.
If there was truth behind his conspiracy-laden version of history, I wouldn't reject that because Alex is a horrible piece of shit.
It just so happens that he's a horrible person and his worldview is stupid.
But he's showing a few too many of his cards here.
When he says that everything is a cult, that is a little bit of an issue.
unidentified
If it's all a cult, then why not join the Trump cult?
dan friesen
Eh?
Come on in!
For years, folks like Alex have gotten super defensive about the idea that they're in a cult of personality based around Trump.
But now, the facade isn't really all that important to them.
He won the election, so you don't have to fake some kind of rationality to appease the moderates anymore.
Get with the cult, or we're gonna put you in jail.
Basically, the subtext of what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
It's delightful.
jordan holmes
Everybody join the cult.
What would happen if everybody just joined?
dan friesen
There'd probably be another kind of schism.
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, wouldn't that be interesting?
If everybody was like, well, I mean, the Democrats suck and they're going to lose, so now we're all Republicans, and now every primary is the only election, and it's whoever the best Republican is, right?
Like, what are we doing?
dan friesen
Right.
That would end up splitting.
jordan holmes
It's all stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know, but I think that Alex probably doesn't want everyone to join the cult.
jordan holmes
Right, isn't it weird how that works?
dan friesen
Because of that potential outcome.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
So the war is about 80% won, give or take.
jordan holmes
Ugh, that sucks.
dan friesen
Yeah, these numbers...
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
But you have to recognize that the numbers don't mean anything.
Alex just makes up numbers.
jordan holmes
I will quit.
I will do whatever it takes for him to...
I'll do it.
I will quit if he says they 100% won and can go home.
dan friesen
I think he already has said that they've won plenty of times.
jordan holmes
Right?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'll do anything to make you win.
What's the end?
What is the end?
dan friesen
Well, it's the end of the world, according to...
Done.
jordan holmes
It's all going.
dan friesen
Well, we're 80% of the way, though.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The war is about 80% won right now.
That doesn't mean there's some bed of roses and cupcakes on the other side.
There's some utopia.
We just won't have a global strategic...
Power elite array, there's always going to be power elites, that is literally anti-human, anti-prosperity, eugenics death cult.
But, hey, I'll take it.
So, you saw people get up off their derrieres and go out and be watching, and as Owen said, and it's now completely clear and it's proven, they pre-packed the election fraud early instead of having...
Early in the middle and after, last time, everybody was watching when the trucks arrived in the battleground states at 1 a.m.
And all the media was there, and all the independent media was there, and they just said, it's over.
And that's why they kept holding off when the cavalry came.
Well, sorry, everybody's watching this time.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's no media in the 2020 election.
So this is how Alex and his ilk will try to move on from their months-long obsession with uncovering very real and very serious instances of voter fraud.
They stopped it!
So everything's good now.
Also, you might notice there how Alex is just hand-waving away how there will always be a power elite.
He shouldn't believe this, and him just coming out with it should really be suspicious for the audience.
His problem is supposed to be that there's this fact that unelected power elites are making decisions for humanity and that the people aren't the ones making these decisions.
The humanity as a whole is not empowered to make those decisions.
The issue is not supposed to be just the power elite making decisions for humanity are ones I don't like.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You remember that part of the Bible where they're like, the meek shall...
Alex was like, go fuck themselves!
dan friesen
Yeah, there will always be the strong.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
The meek will always be the meek.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope, nope.
Not how it's supposed to go, bud.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a little telling.
A lot of this is...
You know, I think the term mask off kind of gets used a little bit too loosely sometimes, but there is like a...
Letting notch out of your belt.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I guess.
I guess it's okay.
dan friesen
Kind of accidentally revealing all the kind of lying that they've been doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is funny how after the fact they can say they were lying and people will be less mad than if they told the truth earlier.
dan friesen
So have you read Lord of the Rings?
jordan holmes
I have.
dan friesen
What's it about?
jordan holmes
A couple hobbits.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Falling in love.
Fighting a spider.
dan friesen
What do they have to do?
jordan holmes
What do they have to do?
Oh, my God.
They have to go to the forest, talk to Tom Bombadil for fucking ever.
dan friesen
Don't get lost in the weeds here.
jordan holmes
Oh, sorry, sorry.
dan friesen
Big picture.
jordan holmes
Big picture.
Drop the one ring into Mordor.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why?
Oh, God.
So 6,000 years before the events, there were these nine rings.
unidentified
Oh god, it's so long to recite the Silmarillion.
dan friesen
Again, we don't need to get into the weeds.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
What are the stakes?
jordan holmes
It's bad.
dan friesen
What could happen if they don't destroy the ring?
jordan holmes
I guess equal rights for goblins.
Orc law would become regular law.
The Uruk-hai would have better manufacturing positions than the dwarves would.
Politics would be a mess.
dan friesen
You're not going where I...
unidentified
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
Not quite...
I'm trying to lead you to Sauron would get the ring.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Well, I mean, he'd already had the ring before.
Much like Trump.
dan friesen
But he'd get it back.
jordan holmes
Well, but I mean, you could take it away from him again, you know.
dan friesen
But it was hard.
jordan holmes
It really wasn't that hard.
I mean, in fact, it was kind of a waste of time for everybody, because all this old dear needed to do was just kind of walk up, and he was like, ah!
And then he just swiped at it.
dan friesen
Right, but that was like...
Yeah, he was the only person who could have done that.
jordan holmes
I mean, he was the only one not wearing a helmet at the time, I guess.
If you got main character energy, you can do it.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
I should know better than to ask you about these ghosts.
jordan holmes
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
dan friesen
The issue is...
According to the plot of the book, as it's written, Sauron's big time evil.
jordan holmes
He's bad.
He's a bad dude.
dan friesen
And if Frodo doesn't get this ring into the fire of Mount Doom, Sauron's gonna get that ring and everyone's fucked.
jordan holmes
That's the thing, right?
But you know, when you look back on it, it's like, people really weren't taking it seriously if they gave it to some hobbits.
I said walk.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
But they're the only ones who could not be...
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I feel like if you're really taking seriously a world-ending threat, everybody should have just kind of walked to Mordor together.
dan friesen
That's why they made a fellowship!
jordan holmes
No, there was like nine guys!
What are you doing with nine...
You're not sending the fucking SEAL Team 6 to take out Putin, are you?
dan friesen
They sent them to take out bin Laden?
jordan holmes
Well, are you okay with that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Then here we are!
dan friesen
You don't want, like, a couple thousand deep team trying to run to Mount Doom.
jordan holmes
I mean, it seems like it's far more likely.
dan friesen
Some of this also had to do with, like, staying under the radar a little bit.
That dude's gotta be!
Let's not litigate the Lord of the Rings.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
My point is that Alex makes a Lord of the Rings reference.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
I mean, we have to have the trifecta to destroy the globalists.
owen shroyer
Well, I do think the trifecta will happen, but there's no doubt if whatever energy...
alex jones
I mean, let's say Trump's evil, like they use a bad analogy.
I'm not saying he is.
Sauron needs the ring.
owen shroyer
Whatever energy they have left, they will put into what races are still on the table, I'm sure.
And I assume that Watley and Lara Trump are at least monitoring these things.
alex jones
We've got to get sore on the ring.
owen shroyer
We're going to get the three.
We're going to get the trifecta.
We're going to get it.
alex jones
We are the ring race.
We're going to get in the ring.
We'll be right back.
That's how the left sees it.
I'm just joking.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
We'll be right back.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
That was a little weird.
A little strange.
Yeah, so they're the ringwraiths trying to get the ring for Sauron.
And he's only, he's kidding.
Kinda.
jordan holmes
I mean, I had not considered Alex writing the Nazgul before.
But, you know, if anything is strong enough to carry him, it would have to be a giant dragon-shaped bird.
dan friesen
I think that there are, obviously, if you want to get into some real nerd shit, you can argue the Empire versus the Rebellion, or Sauron versus everyone.
But those are archetypes of the clearest morality possible.
jordan holmes
It does seem very simple.
dan friesen
In terms of the story.
jordan holmes
Childish, almost.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Team trying to destroy the ring is good.
Sauron is bad.
The Empire is bad.
Luke and Han and Leia are good.
Alex identifies quite a bit with the bad side.
jordan holmes
The idea of identifying with ringwraiths, to an explicit point, sounds crazy.
That is like, I am the undead.
Tragic, cursed ghost of someone filled with too much greed to ever be allowed to rest.
dan friesen
Yeah, and comparing Trump getting a majority in the House and Senate.
jordan holmes
With Zora getting the one ring?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Man, that's wild.
dan friesen
It's revealing.
jordan holmes
That is, I mean, it is...
It is something you would parody if you thought it was possible in this life to hear it, and now you know it's possible, so you can't parody it.
dan friesen
Well, Sauron just wanted the ring to defend the Second Amendment.
Anyway, Alex has a guest on.
You heard Owen there for a second, but he has an actual guest.
An exciting guest.
jordan holmes
Like a for-real person.
alex jones
Martin, 35,000-foot view, and then just drill into, can Trump stabilize things?
What would you do?
I know you're advising some of the Trump folks.
Is he really about to drain the swamp?
And if so, how do we support him?
Martin Armstrong of armstrongeconomics.com.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
How you doing, Alex?
martin a armstrong
I think people have to understand the first time he was there, they picked everybody to go in the cabinet.
And what you had was that they were then...
Basically, every one of them was stabbing in the back.
unidentified
You know, like John Bolton, for example.
dan friesen
Wait, Alex just said a little bit ago that he was involved in staffing decisions.
Shouldn't you be complaining to him about...
Okay.
jordan holmes
Our mythologies are working at odds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has been very excited about this guest that he has on the show.
He's a very credible and legit economic guy named Martin Armstrong.
jordan holmes
That sounds false.
dan friesen
It should come as no surprise that Armstrong is a convicted felon who spent the years 2000 to 2011 in jail after being indicted for fraud running a precious metals Ponzi scam.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
When he got arrested and convicted, he was ordered to turn over a ton of shit, like 102 bars of gold and a $750,000 bust of Caesar.
But he didn't produce a fair amount of the stuff, and he ended up getting in trouble for contempt of court.
A few years after he got out of jail, someone found a bunch of gold coins in a house, and they sold them to a local shop.
This led to the coins being appraised and then auctioned off, at which point Armstrong Oh, come on!
jordan holmes
If you bury treasure, you gotta go back and unbury it.
That's absurd.
dan friesen
Long story short, though, he did not get these coins back.
He didn't ultimately end up with that.
His case is really interesting because it seems pretty clear that he's a scam kind of guy and fits perfectly in with Alex's crew of experts, but his legal case brings up some tough questions.
For example, he ended up spending more time in jail because of being held in civil contempt for not turning over the assets than he would have if he just pled guilty.
Which raises the question of whether or not civil contempt imprisonment is unfairly punitive.
jordan holmes
No, debtor's prison's great.
dan friesen
If you rob a bank and then you bury the money you stole, should you be able to be jailed for longer than a bank robbery sentence for not telling people where the money is buried?
It's a hard question because on the one hand, it seems like a punishment for a crime shouldn't be eclipsed by something like civil contempt that grows out of that punishment.
But on the other hand, folks have made the point that it's not an unfair punishment because it ends as soon as the person complies and is no longer in that contempt.
It's not a permanent sentence.
It's just in place as long as you're not turning over your ill-gotten gains, which you're still...
If you don't...
If you're not held in some kind of contempt, then you're able to profit off your crime.
Yeah.
So crime would pay.
It's complicated.
jordan holmes
No, it's Wall Street.
dan friesen
I'm no legal scholar, but I don't know what I think exactly on this.
But it's an interesting question that I think people could have different views on.
It's definitely more interesting than Armstrong himself, who is yet another fraud-type felon who Alex is laundering to the audience as some kind of renegade expert.
Seems like the main point of this interview is that Trump should eliminate income taxes and maybe all taxes.
jordan holmes
That's...
dan friesen
That's on the table.
jordan holmes
Good for...
I'm all for it.
Fine.
And the government.
Sure.
I would like this guy so much more and would trust him far more as an advisor if he had recovered his buried gold.
dan friesen
He might have recovered some of it.
unidentified
That's not enough.
dan friesen
We don't know.
jordan holmes
That's not enough.
If you're, like, full-on Treasure Island-ing me...
Then you gotta, you can't be like, oh, actually, that's Michael.
Can't be that guy.
dan friesen
But maybe he was in a house that he didn't own anymore.
After he'd gone to prison, someone else, you know, you'd have to do a break-in.
jordan holmes
Then you gotta get a crew.
You gotta send out the black spot first.
We all know the rules, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think we've seen this go wrong in too many movies.
unidentified
Come on.
dan friesen
You don't want to end up in a Home Alone situation.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, you don't want to end up on InfoWars either.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Get a crew.
dan friesen
So, I don't care about Armstrong's interview, but Alex afterwards is kind of having to recognize that Trump outperformed a lot of Republicans.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's a lot of other races where it seems like if you had the same number of people who voted for Trump voting for the Republican candidate, then they would have won.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he has an explanation for why that happened.
jordan holmes
Let's hear it.
alex jones
The House incident, mainly House.
Fights that aren't over yet.
We've got to watch so carefully because that's where they really, in the last few midterms and during elections, you do some stealing there at the end and the Republicans lose a lot of their majority in the House or lose the House completely.
I'm not saying that's going to happen, but no one's like, we've got to ask, why did Trump do better in these states than the down-ballot candidates?
And that's because a lot of people were just checking To see if they had Trump checked and then those ballots got manipulated later because they know there's less attention on those.
And there was a lot of election fraud going on.
So, I mean, again, this was a giant landslide.
dan friesen
That explains it.
jordan holmes
I mean, it was a giant landslide.
dan friesen
But people were only checking to see if the Trump vote was flipped.
They didn't notice that half of their ballot was flipped.
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
It just never...
It can't...
They just don't get the idea that, no, it works.
When you guys are unpopular, you lose.
And when the other guys are unpopular, they lose.
The only time it's fraud is when you're trying to steal it.
Like, that's it?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
So what do we do now?
Are you guys going to complain about voter fraud forever?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ, just fucking end democracy then.
dan friesen
Well, I think they're working on it.
jordan holmes
Good!
I'm tired.
dan friesen
But see, you see it as that.
You see it as working towards ending democracy and all this.
But really, Alex just wants to be free.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You understand?
There's freedom.
jordan holmes
There is a freedom in slavery, according to some songs.
dan friesen
And he also...
Wants everyone to recognize that he's superior.
jordan holmes
That helps.
alex jones
We have an opportunity here, not with the really bad guys, because they're never going to stop, but with a lot of their minions and people, and even some high-powered ones, to say, listen, why don't you just join Team Humanity?
Why don't you try getting on your knees to God and repenting?
If there's still good left in you, I want you to know that I don't want to enslave you.
I don't want to kill you.
I don't want to run your life.
You can do what you want in your life.
Just don't do it in mine.
You understand that?
Stay away from my children.
Stay away from my freedom.
And understand that I'm sorry that my culture is the best.
I'm sorry that my ideas are the best.
I'm sorry you feel like losers and hate everybody, and so you want to bring society down with you.
We're just not going to let you do it without a fight.
And if you keep trimming the heat up, you're the ones that are escalating with this stuff.
I have no desire to smash you.
But we will.
And I think you've figured out by now, I'm talking to the globalists themselves as well, that we're not playing around.
unidentified
Alright?
alex jones
I fundamentally believe in humanity.
I bet on humanity.
I am simply pointing out who we really are and asking people to stand up and be who God made them.
And we will win.
And you look at the people that follow Satan, you look at the satanic system, I mean, these are a pack of losers.
Come on, people, stop serving it.
It's going to destroy us all.
Now, we're going to go to break.
I've got all these clips, all this insanity.
I mean, these are incredible clips.
I should have got to it right at the start of the show, but I haven't.
I mean, I've got like dozens of them.
This is all wild.
It's all very important.
A lot of it's them capitulating, and then the other one's just saying, no, we're in our restaurant.
The deep state will save us.
I'll get you next time.
Villain stuff.
So this is important.
It's all coming up.
Now, you really want to go to thealexjohnstore.com.
dan friesen
You sure do.
So Alex says that he just wants to be free, and maybe that sounds fair enough.
The problem is that as he keeps talking, he accidentally kind of reveals that what he wants is not freedom.
It's cultural dominance.
If Alex wanted freedom, that would be fine.
But what he really wants is for his bigotry to be freed up from making him feel bad.
He wants your freedoms to be infringed in order to make himself feel better.
If you're a dude and you want to kiss your boyfriend in public, you should not be free to do that, according to Alex.
What if there's a Christian around who doesn't like being reminded of how much they hate gay people?
Are you not considering their freedom to live without reminders that you exist?
Alex doesn't believe in freedom.
He believes in his own freedom.
He believes that if you have a different idea about freedom, you shouldn't have the freedom to disagree with him, because his version is better, and you should submit to it for your own good.
So that's an interesting dynamic, and you can see how this...
It smoothly leads to a plug.
jordan holmes
I think that is where the whole framing things is a battle between good and evil kind of runs into trouble.
Is if you win and you are good, then that means you have to impose your quote-unquote goodness on everybody else.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
You probably shouldn't think it's a battle between good and evil.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just throwing that out there.
dan friesen
It's because when, yeah, it puts you into a pretty tight box.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
So, a lot of this episode ends up being about God telling Alex times.
So let's just enjoy.
jordan holmes
Where was God whenever there were fucking volcanoes in Pompeii?
Was he busy?
Oh, I missed the time!
We hadn't invented clocks yet!
I couldn't warn anybody because they hadn't digitized it!
dan friesen
God warned someone in, at the time, Austin, Texas.
But there was no way to get the message.
jordan holmes
Somebody woke up and the sundial was out and he was like, oh shit, and then Pompeii went off?
That makes sense.
dan friesen
I'll take that.
Because there was no internet.
jordan holmes
Retract my criticism of God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
I've told the crew about this, and I have done it a couple times for my wife and a few times for my children, but I only do it when the Spirit tells me to.
jordan holmes
It's like a soft shoe.
alex jones
And I just have to clear my mind, and then I'm given the answer.
This happens in a lot of things in a lot of ways.
But when God chooses to do it, and if you'll notice, I've done this other times here and there on the air.
I go ahead and say it, and then I'm never wrong.
Sometimes I can interpret it a little bit off, but just a little bit.
So last night...
I literally, just like other people described it, you feel a demonic presence.
It's like your skin crawls back.
Your hair and your neck stands up.
You feel the angel, which is always there.
It's like a warm feeling right behind you.
And then I'm like, oh, it's always there.
But God's like saying through the intercessor, okay, I want you to pay attention.
And then when I've not been listening to God because I'm so busy or distracted or get back to thinking I can do it myself subconsciously, God will.
I told you about this six months ago.
We ought to find the club.
And I just share it so you know how real God is.
unidentified
Even if I can attack for it.
alex jones
And this usually happens every few months.
It's been happening since I was a little kid.
And I know what it was at first.
But I'll wake up or I'll be outside watering plants or something and haven't looked at the clock in hours.
And it's like a direction goes, go in the house and look at the clock.
It's going to be this time.
And it's always right.
And then I go, what is this?
Why am I being told this?
Because you're not listening.
And if I can show you that, this is important.
I'm getting your attention that I'm here.
So it's kind of like in Interstellar.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God, I was about to say, is this interstellar?
I was so close to saying that.
God damn it!
That would have been great!
alex jones
You know, I...
God's been telling me to be more open about this and just to get your attention.
And so last night, I feel the warmth.
And I just sit back.
Well, Owen's going to see her talking.
I'm listening.
I go, okay, what am I supposed to do?
Ask Owen to predict what time Trump will declare victory for a minute.
And I'm like, okay.
I don't even think about what the next thing is.
And I go, Owen, if you're saying he needs to come out, when do you think he will?
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And Owen's like, I'm not sure.
And then I just go, well, let me, and you watch it on here.
I'll put the clip and come back.
I go, I didn't say it four or five numbers.
I said, 127.
He will come on the stage and speak at 127.
And then I was like, And they were talking, and I was getting more.
I was like, Eastern Central?
And then we kind of went on to the next thing.
unidentified
Fuck you.
alex jones
And then it was to the second he did that.
dan friesen
I'm convinced.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What in God's name?
dan friesen
I don't know why you're responding with such anger and frustration.
jordan holmes
I'm so mad.
dan friesen
I feel like, what else could he do to prove...
That he knows times.
jordan holmes
You know, sometimes, I don't know if you recall, but all of our bad reviews are about me.
And generally they're about how I talk too much and am too loud.
And so sometimes, not often, but sometimes in my head I'll be like, don't say anything, just let the clip play out.
dan friesen
Don't bring up Interstellar.
jordan holmes
I was like, two seconds earlier, I was like, oh my god, he's describing Interstellar.
And I felt like...
Puppy dog heart going, like, say Interstellar.
Say Interstellar.
And in the back of my head, I was like, nah, people don't like it.
And then he said it, and now I'm furious.
dan friesen
I think that he probably said it because he was realizing that people like you might be thinking, you're just talking about Interstellar.
jordan holmes
That's fucking Interstellar.
Yeah, that's exactly why he said it, because he was describing Interstellar.
dan friesen
Because he was getting a little self-conscious.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
So yeah, leaving that aside.
jordan holmes
What a weird god.
dan friesen
But I'm convinced that there was an angel whispering a time in his ear.
jordan holmes
Man, what God is...
What is he up to?
What is he thinking?
dan friesen
Well, also, let's be totally clear about this.
If we're going to take all this seriously.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Telling you what time it is...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In the middle of the night.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's very different than telling you what time Trump will later take the stage.
jordan holmes
Slightly different.
dan friesen
They both involve a time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But one is a predictive future thing, and one is a description of the exact moment we're in right now.
owen shroyer
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, one is preparing him for the other.
It was all prelude to the moment where he said, 127, and then ask God.
Eastern and Central.
Can I ask you a question?
Did God create the time zones in this scenario, or does God respect the time zones?
dan friesen
Well, now, here's what's interesting.
Because time zones were created because of, like, work, right?
I mean, like, because of labor stuff.
jordan holmes
I would assume, or I mean, you know, the world happened all the time.
dan friesen
Well, see, that's the thing.
Obviously, times are different because of the nature of reality and the sun and everything.
But our description of time zones...
Is human.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's recognizing a natural phenomenon.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But we have decided to describe it in the way that we have.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
With the cutoffs of ours.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, if you're really thinking about it, it's minutes earlier.
In between the time zones, right?
It would be.
jordan holmes
If you're considering this, you know, like, we're orbiting around a supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy.
I don't know what time it is there.
Because, in fact, it is zero negative time there.
In the exact center of the black hole is zero time.
So it is no time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like, I was at the planetarium and watched this video about things that are past Neptune.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, stuff is out there.
dan friesen
And one of the pieces of information that you learn from this is that it takes a couple minutes for the sun's light to hit Earth.
jordan holmes
Isn't that crazy?
dan friesen
Right?
And then there's these objects out there.
It takes two days.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
And I was like, what does that mean?
jordan holmes
It means that you are seeing them two days ago.
dan friesen
Right.
Yep.
But if you're on there...
jordan holmes
Well, then they're seeing you two days ago.
dan friesen
But are you waiting two days for that light?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Like, how does that time work?
jordan holmes
It's how it works!
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Isn't that amazing?
dan friesen
I guess, but...
jordan holmes
It's a miracle!
dan friesen
Right.
But, what time is it?
jordan holmes
So, if you want to go crazy on it...
There is no such thing as time.
It is only relative to the speed at which that you are moving.
dan friesen
Now, that's the complicated piece.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because an angel telling Alex what time something will happen and an angel telling Alex what time it currently is...
Are the same in that sense, in the sense that all time is meaningless.
jordan holmes
I mean, telling someone what will happen is making the thing happen, in essence, because you are simply like the light being two days in advance.
dan friesen
Because the angel told Alex what time Trump would come out, Trump had no free will in terms of when he took the stage.
jordan holmes
None of us ever do.
dan friesen
But there is a time zone issue.
jordan holmes
Well, it's really kind of God to just, like, you know, hammer it down.
Central, buddy.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit more about the, you know, the waking up in the middle of the night.
unidentified
To pee.
jordan holmes
We all have to pee.
dan friesen
Well, he does have to pee, but he also has to find out what time it is.
jordan holmes
You know, prostate, our age.
alex jones
Sure.
jordan holmes
It happens.
alex jones
It was about five, six months ago, and four times in one week.
I was awakened in the middle of the night by the Holy Spirit and sat up, turned the light on, feet on the floor, sitting in the bed in my underwear.
And I'm like, I mean, I don't just wake up for no reason.
I feel it.
I'm like, okay.
And it's, go to the bathroom.
It's going to be 4 a.m.
And there's, again, a little portable alarm clock a lot that I keep in the dresser.
I don't usually need an alarm clock.
I wake up at like 5.30 always.
But it's there sometimes if I stay up really late working and I turn it on.
But there's no clock in there.
I don't like ticking and noises and lights.
jordan holmes
Why do I know so much about this?
alex jones
There's a canary.
And I walk into the bathroom.
To my sink, and I like to turn the phone off when I'm in the house around the family because it is a surveillance device, and it's my privacy.
And so I get up every second, walk, and it's like, hurry up, turn it on.
And so I turn the phone on.
This was the fourth time that week.
But this was down to the second, and I'm sitting there peeing.
It's like, you know, get up, counter.
I'm sitting there going, I'm kind of taking it for granted at this point.
I know God's going to be right.
I'm like, this is crazy.
Of course, I try to be able to observe this.
I can't believe it.
Phone boots up, and it's 4-0-0.
And then God goes, and you're thinking that this is crazy, even though I've shown you four times this week.
This is the fourth time, and it's 4 a.m.
And God goes, it's now 14 seconds to count down 14. It was instant.
Count properly in one message.
14 seconds, count properly.
14, 13, and I'm singing out loud, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 401.
And I was done pissing.
That's an exact true story.
So, holding my, you know what, with my left hand, holding the phone in my right hand, God talking to me, just what's going on, and I'm just like, I know, thank you, what do I do?
Because the message is, you're not listening.
dan friesen
So I know we've heard Alex tell this kind of story before, and that if you're listening to this and think he has anything worthwhile to say about politics, you're past reaching.
If you hear someone tell a story about how God is speaking to them and giving them messages proven by unverifiable stories about how he knows what time it is in the middle of the night, and you don't immediately recognize that they're a lunatic or a fraud, I can't help you.
But I decided to play this clip of Alex retelling the story because it has subtle differences from past versions of the story that I think are pretty important and kind of indicate that he's...
Just riffing all this shit so he can feel like a big boy prophet who's closer to God than you.
The first thing that jumps out about this telling of the story is that he had ignored God telling him what time it was three previous...
That makes no sense, based on how this has been a language that God has used since Alex was a kid in order to reveal some kind of important message.
God didn't just start telling Alex what time it is, and he's just now figuring out the significance of knowing what time it is.
By the point that this story is happening, he should be fully aware that when he gets up in the middle of the night and a disembodied voice tells him what time it is, that's the equivalent of seeing the bat signal.
He knows this.
There's no world where Alex should be a 50-year-old guy getting these calls from God and not piecing together the importance of it and being like, uh, again?
It's just not plausible.
And God also sounds like a bad magician.
He tells Alex what time it is, then sees that Alex isn't impressed, so he says, now for my next trick, count down from 14 properly!
jordan holmes
Ridiculous.
It's just idiotic.
The only thing that is happening to or about time right now is he is murdering it.
dan friesen
He's wasting it.
jordan holmes
He's killing all of our time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is horrific.
dan friesen
You're not wrong.
jordan holmes
If I was being serial killed, I would be like, everything is fine so long as you don't play this exact story for me.
Jesus.
dan friesen
Again.
jordan holmes
Again.
dan friesen
You know, in some ways, if you really think about it, you're always listening to that clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
All time is an illusion, and you are forever listening to Alex talk about peeing.
jordan holmes
I mean, if we are the experience of a four-dimensional time space, then yeah, I think that is exactly what is happening.
There is a moment of my life that will forever exist in toiling agony, trying to survive that clip.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex has these visions, and knowing what time it is, that makes him special.
But his friend Tucker...
Has recently come out with a story about a demon attack.
jordan holmes
Slightly more impressive.
dan friesen
I think so.
He had claw marks all over his body and blood in his bed and he still has the marks on him.
It's a better story than I woke up in the middle of the night and it's four o 'clock.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's more fixing the blind guy than the water into wine thing.
dan friesen
And so I think that Alex is like, I gotta reclaim a little bit of this.
And so he starts talking about how he...
Look, Alex knows some things about Tucker's story.
The Tucker hasn't told.
And so I think Alex is slowly trying to tell Tucker's story for him while talking about how he doesn't want to tell Tucker's private story.
alex jones
I'm sitting there with Tucker Carlson at his dinner table.
And it's a private story.
If Tucker ever wants to tell it, he can.
unidentified
And...
God tells me.
alex jones
Yeah, Tucker, so did this happen to you?
Did anybody try to lay hands on you or something, not Christian, ask you to go in a room with them?
Oh, let me guess.
And when they laid their hands on you, did it send a serious sexual energy through you?
jordan holmes
Let's fuck.
alex jones
And he goes, he totally freaked out.
He goes, yeah, that's exactly, how the hell do you know this?
unidentified
I really want to fuck.
alex jones
I said, no, it's not me.
God wants you to know that.
jordan holmes
You want to fuck?
alex jones
That's why he says I'm the most extraordinary person I've ever met.
I mean, God told me, show Tucker Carlson how real God is through me.
Because he needs to know that.
He already knew, but now you see where he's at.
All the way, fully committed, on fire.
dan friesen
So, when Alex says, this is Tucker's private story, and, you know, it's his to tell if he wants to, you just know, like, oh, he's about to tell something he shouldn't be talking about.
jordan holmes
All the details.
dan friesen
So, apparently, Tucker got taken to someone's house, or he was at someone's house, and he got taken to a room with a throne in it, and they laid hands on him, and he got a charge of serious sexual energy.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
dan friesen
And then he got attacked by a demon.
jordan holmes
Was he in Jon Snow's house?
Was that the fucking...
dan friesen
Alex knows the name.
He said that he knows who...
This person is.
He's just not revealing who gave Tucker a serious charge of sexual energy in their throne room.
jordan holmes
It would make sense for Benioff and Weiss to have the Iron Throne and to be giving it to Tucker Carlson either to support him or to put secret...
Curses upon him.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is a possibility.
jordan holmes
I'll accept that.
That makes as much sense as God telling him the time.
dan friesen
You know, I do feel like your mind tries to go to, like, alright, we know that there's a throne.
Who has a throne?
jordan holmes
Who has a throne?
Let's narrow down the throne conversation.
dan friesen
There are so few public thrones.
jordan holmes
There are many.
dan friesen
But then it really starts to be like, ugh, there could be a lot of people with secret thrones.
Maybe all of the elites have thrones.
jordan holmes
I imagine that there are more people who have thrones than are willing to talk about having thrones.
I will definitely believe that.
dan friesen
And how many people, maybe it's a toilet.
Maybe they call it a throne.
jordan holmes
Sure, but I think we're talking thrones you don't want to talk about kind of level of throne.
You know what I'm saying?
There are people who've got thrones that are like...
Oh, no, this is just my throne that I...
It's not like a theater thing.
You sit in that throne.
dan friesen
You know you do.
It's like you don't want to admit that you have a throne because it requires so many steps to set up this throne that clearly indicates some sort of hole you're filling in yourself.
jordan holmes
I want something.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so you probably wouldn't admit publicly that you have a throne.
jordan holmes
When you look at the A-Rod portrait of himself and the horse, You know everything you need to know.
You see that portrait and you're like, you made all these choices?
I know exactly how you made those choices and I know what thoughts you were having when you did it?
More power to you, but leave me alone, you creepy weirdo.
dan friesen
When you tell someone that you have a throne in a room in your house, it's kind of revealing these things that are implied by it.
Much like telling people you were attacked by a demon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's no super cash throne.
dan friesen
No.
And there's no super cash demon attack.
jordan holmes
No, there's no super cash demon attack.
dan friesen
But maybe there will be soon.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because demon attacks...
jordan holmes
On the rise?
Oh, you better believe it.
alex jones
And I told you, over a year ago, I know prominent people, not just him, that didn't believe in God but were doing good work, but they weren't protected by Jesus because they had to ask God to protect them and the Holy Spirit of their heart.
jordan holmes
Are these rules written down?
alex jones
In their bedroom, wake up in a black shape.
Comes and attacks them and just scratches their back, their arms, their face.
Sometimes there's a bleh, that noise.
And it's happening more and more.
And let me tell you, they get Jesus real fast.
And you say, in the name of Jesus, be gone?
Can't even attack you.
And it's real.
You call it a space alien, whatever it is, okay?
It's real.
All right?
So, and just like the Bible says every culture also says, there's the big guy that made it all, and then he's got entities that work for him.
Those are the angels.
Those are the good guys.
And then there's the bad guys, like everything else in the universe.
I really want to be with the good guys.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
The ring rates?
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently.
I guess that would be sort of like a dark shape.
You know, the Ringwraiths have that appearance.
This is strange.
I think if Alex is saying that demon attacks are on the rise, we already know because Tucker's talked about being attacked by a demon.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Should we just imply that Rogan's been attacked by a demon?
jordan holmes
I don't know what has it...
What is not a demon at this point?
Now that we're in post-demon acceptance world now.
dan friesen
But it could be an alien.
jordan holmes
It could be an alien?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright, so we'll accept demons as aliens?
dan friesen
No, I reject.
jordan holmes
Okay, you reject aliens.
dan friesen
And here's why.
They can't attack you if you bring up Jesus.
So it can't just be an alien.
jordan holmes
That's true.
It can't just be an alien.
Unless there is a whole new set of rules regarding this set of aliens.
dan friesen
It can't be a secular alien.
It is.
It is an alien that intersects with Christian dogma.
jordan holmes
Or there's a coincidental law of the universe that winds up being that this collection of sounds in their language is the most offensive word you could possibly say.
And they'll be like, hey man, what the fuck?
And then leave.
dan friesen
If the idea of infinity is real and there's infinite universes, we may just be in that universe.
jordan holmes
There is a universe where saying Jesus to an alien is the most offensive thing.
It's like the F slur.
And they just have to leave you alone.
Because they're a more advanced society.
They're like, we're not going to fight you.
We're just going to let your Earth explode.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, it's that or demons.
Could be.
Maybe you just think are aliens.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
But underneath it all, Alex's sort of religious shit is still very important to this.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now, I think if you are dumb and incredulous and stupid, I think that there is a very...
I would say impossible difference to make between demon attacks being on the rise and shitheads saying that they've been attacked by demons that you're just assuming are real, that being on the rise.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say probably watching a lot of ancient aliens leads to believing there were ancient aliens.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I would assume that on social media there was a whole lot of people talking about being attacked by demons after Tucker's video dropped.
jordan holmes
Funny how a bunch of apes like us work.
dan friesen
So, Alex...
God, man, I wish he would have finished the story that he is about to tell.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
God gave us all this consciousness, all this beauty, all this success, all this incredible adventure and free will, and the devil just wants to destroy it all.
So why would you want to serve the thing that hates you?
unidentified
Sauron?
alex jones
I mean, I know there's a thrill.
I've...
Unintentionally dabbled in evil.
I have...
jordan holmes
Bought a throne?
alex jones
Been in the deep end without knowing it.
Got tempted by...
Well, the way the real bad guy does it.
I've talked to the experts.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
On the real bad guy?
alex jones
That's a story for another day.
But I met the devil at the crossroads and didn't make the deal.
jordan holmes
Boo!
alex jones
But it didn't mean that some of the devil didn't rub off on me.
jordan holmes
You fucked the devil.
unidentified
Come on, man.
alex jones
Because you look at a lot of people that God rises up against the devil have unintentionally been running with the devil.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
I've been running with the devil.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
And I can tell you the devil's real in the pale moonlight.
dan friesen
The Joker?
jordan holmes
I mean, fine.
Fine.
dan friesen
Alex met the devil.
unidentified
God, man, you know what?
jordan holmes
Here's the truth.
Let's get into it, all right?
If you're telling me that Alex has met the devil, talked to the devil, had a whole devil thing going on for a while, but Alex has also met God only through the form of what time is it, I'm choosing the devil!
Yeah!
Fuck it!
God's just telling me what time it is!
Get a job, man!
dan friesen
Well, I wonder about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I wonder about Alex meeting...
The devil.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And thinking he turned down the offer, but that he was just being manipulated.
jordan holmes
There is that with the devil and he is dumb.
dan friesen
I wonder about that because, yeah, I mean, that's the real thing you have to carry with you is that he's very stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is a dumb, bumbling fuck.
So I wouldn't put it past him to, you know, meet up with the devil.
jordan holmes
Here's one of my favorite.
dan friesen
Fuck it up.
jordan holmes
Here's one of my favorite things about humanity.
And stories about the devil.
Is that all stories about the devil essentially can be boiled down to there is a great deceiver.
He didn't lie to me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I saw through it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I also think that there's nothing in the world that could stop the devil from telling you what time it is.
There is nothing inherent about these messages that Alex gets.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
It's not like in the Bible, they're like, you shall know God by him being accurate to the atomic clock.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's nothing about that that is like...
jordan holmes
Devil only works in Eastern.
Devil only works in Eastern time zone.
dan friesen
I believe that.
jordan holmes
That's why we have daylight savings time.
The devil tricked us into sticking with the Eastern time zone so it has a little bit more time in the Midwest than it normally does.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Also, when we were talking about time zones being about labor, I was totally thinking about daylight savings time.
But still, my point remains.
I think that if Alex did meet the devil, and there was an offer that Alex thinks he turned down, if I were the devil, I would start visiting him, pretending to be gone, telling him what time it is.
And fuck with his brain a little bit.
jordan holmes
I mean, I feel like the devil maybe gave him a deal that had three double negatives in it, and he just was like, aha, I tricked you.
I will sign yes on the bottom line.
dan friesen
That's classic devil stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's devil shit.
dan friesen
So Alex and Trump, they're both very powerful spiritual entities.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is just nuts.
alex jones
That's why the globalists hate me so much, is they look at me and they go, he looks good.
And he puts off the energy of the guy we hate, but he also kind of looks like the boss.
unidentified
That's the devil.
alex jones
What is that?
And I've talked about this phenomenon.
jordan holmes
Springsteen?
alex jones
Trump?
dan friesen
The devil.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
Flickers with Holy Ghost energy, and then you'll see a little devil there.
But see, our spirits are reflective.
Light.
But like a glowing mirror, but multi-dimensioned.
And so all of us stare into the abyss.
We become partly abyss.
And so the residence of these Satanists is so low and they're so weak that when they see someone who's a powerful spiritual entity, they are very lustful for it.
They don't have the power that Trump has.
They don't have the power that I have.
And they don't like the power you have.
A husband and wife.
The power of your children.
The power of what we can do together.
And God is where the power comes from.
The devil is just a facsimile twisted of it with pride and the exhilaration of domination.
dan friesen
I don't remember reading this in the Bible, how powerful spiritual beings reflect Holy Ghost energy as well as Satan energy.
This kind of seems like heresy.
jordan holmes
Don't recall it, yeah.
dan friesen
The way Alex describes the devil's energy at the end of that clip really just sounds like him.
The exhilaration of domination perfectly sums Alex up.
He gets excited about the idea of limiting access to reproductive health care.
He gets charged up advocating for banning people from presenting themselves in a way that he doesn't approve of in public.
Exhilaration for domination should be on his epitaph.
And Alex says that the devil is about pride.
But just earlier in that clip, he said the globalists are lustful of the power that he and Trump have as supremely strong spiritual beings.
He thinks God constantly talks to him by telling him the time in the middle of the night because that story gives him a sense of pride.
Based on internal logic, Alex should be really worried that he's following the devil, but also he should be worried that people in the audience would suspect that he knows that he's following the devil.
He talked about how he needed to get sore on the one ring earlier in this show.
This is, like, ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing that makes me resent this even more than all of the current things that I'm resenting about it.
It makes me feel like a bit player in this story about a dumb guy who sold his soul to the devil and then tried to trick the devil by being like, hey, but make me forget I sold my soul.
dan friesen
Sort of a memento thing.
Or he sold his soul to the devil but thinks that he was crossing his fingers.
jordan holmes
Totally.
This is the dumbest possible story.
It's so stupid.
dan friesen
It's so dumb.
jordan holmes
I want a better devil!
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
You know, your theory about Alex being tricked into making a deal with the devil, it's kind of strengthened by this next split.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
alex jones
I'm just sad for people who have been turned totally over to Satan because they think the power that they access, which I have accessed, is the power.
And I can tell that the Satanists, I've accessed satanic powers you couldn't even imagine.
By the time I was like 13 years old, you don't know anything about it.
You're fools, you're slaves.
And I'm telling you, I've seen what the devil has to offer, and it's nothing.
You understand?
They know it's true.
So, here is the little prediction last night.
I am projecting, which is about a 95% prediction, I am predicting that at 127...
Trump comes out on the stage.
127.
And then, like, Job had it all given.
Another headset just went out.
Give me another chart.
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Guys, bring me another one.
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dan friesen
So I would like Alex to get a bit more specific about the Satan powers he had at 13. Yeah.
If we're keeping track of his pretend timeline of life, at 11 he was attacked by a poltergeist in his kitchen, then at 12 he read None Dare Call It Conspiracy, which woke him up to the New World Order.
Apparently, after being attacked by a poltergeist and learning of the grand universal conspiracy, Alex decided to take on devil powers a little afterwards.
However, all this time, he had a family full of patriots who had already told him about the great battle between good and evil.
And at some point in his earlier childhood, God had given him visions of his future because he was created by his ancestors in the womb to fight the literal devil.
And at eight, he found out that his grandma was, or his mom's grandma was a noted channeler who presidents consulted people.
So what powers did he have?
I want to know!
Also, you'll notice that Alex's version of his amazing prediction cuts out the surrounding context where they were clearly talking about 127 Eastern Time, not 127 Central.
jordan holmes
Almost like he knows about it.
dan friesen
When Trump comes out on stage, Alex doesn't say it's exactly the time I said because it wasn't 127 when Alex...
When Trump was coming out.
So instead, Alex just desperately plugs his dummy businesses that he created to subvert his bankruptcy.
Because that's what this is really about.
All the rest of this is window dressing.
jordan holmes
It's only after the fact that some employee noticed the time, noticed what it was.
dan friesen
Created in retrospect.
But here's the other thing, too.
I think that the devil doesn't give you power without a cost.
jordan holmes
Generally, that is the way of things.
He's not a generous guy.
dan friesen
So if Alex tasted powers that you cannot even imagine from the devil, you're not going to just walk out of that.
jordan holmes
Nope, that's usually how it works.
God doesn't do take-backsies?
Did you know that there's a no-take-backsies rule with the devil?
dan friesen
You cannot hear this story of Alex making a deal with the devil.
He must have if he got these powers somehow.
And then just being like, oh, but I...
I'm cool now.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
No way, man.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Not how it works.
dan friesen
If I buy into this angel-devil bullshit that you're talking about, you are on Team Satan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
100%.
dan friesen
Cannot trust you at all.
jordan holmes
There's no other explanation for all of this.
dan friesen
You had Satan powers.
You admitted you talked to the devil.
jordan holmes
All of this.
Why would I believe...
Why would I trust you the moment you had Satan powers?
You also became somebody who lies to everybody all the time.
On account of that's how Satan powers work.
Right?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So how could I ever believe you, even if you had turned to the light?
That's part of the ruse!
dan friesen
I would say you have to be very suspicious of that, based on his own telling of things.
jordan holmes
I mean, unless he's the devil, in which case, it's right in front of our eyes.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's how the devil works.
In mysterious ways, I guess.
dan friesen
Because even the devil can quote scripture, and Alex fucks that up constantly.
So that proves that he's not the devil.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I was looking for other...
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, we got the 127 thing.
I kind of think it's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
Alex pees in the middle of the night and knows what time it is.
I think that's kind of bullshit.
But maybe there's some other examples of his prophecies.
Sure.
So he gets into some here.
alex jones
I mean, God's like, how much has God got to show you?
jordan holmes
Four.
alex jones
But God wanted me to work on Tucker Carlson.
I mean, I'm just sitting up here one day and I go, he will be fired within one month, 29 days later fired.
Tucker calls up and goes, did they tell you?
How'd you know?
And I just said, I just, God told me to say it, I just, the night of the shooting in Vegas, it was the Sunday show, the last 10 seconds, we can find that, and I just said, randomly, I don't remember saying it, and they'll probably shoot up a major music concert at 10 o 'clock at night tonight, and then...
The next day, the FBI hostage rescue team, through an individual I know here locally, comes to my house.
About 7.30, I'm drinking coffee, about to leave.
Comes in, he goes, yeah, this is such and such on the phone here, and I know this other guy, he goes, my buddy from the Army, he's on the hostage rescue team.
Look, they don't think you're involved, but can you just tell?
I said, sure.
I said, I'll tell you.
Do you remember what you did last night?
And I said, no, on your show.
And I said, no.
Well, you know about what just went on.
And I said, yeah.
And they said, you don't know?
You said there would be a shooting at a...
Music concert at 10 o 'clock at night?
Just at the end of your show?
No, I didn't remember that.
And sure as hell, I went back.
And we can go dig it up.
And I just, I mean, what the hell is that?
Excuse me, Lord.
You know what I mean?
It's just, oh my gosh.
I mean, look, I just feel like you guys need to know this.
You need to understand how the universe really works.
dan friesen
So this is a great illustration of Alex being a complete and utter fraud.
We've talked about the Tucker thing in the past.
Alex wasn't saying that Tucker was going to get fired from Fox.
He was saying that Tucker was too big for Fox and was going to quit.
He's removed that context from a clip to make it look like he predicted Tucker was going to get fired.
And this Las Vegas shooting is another interesting example of how this game gets played.
The Vegas shooting happened on October 1, 2017, and you just heard Alex's version of the story.
So would it surprise you to learn that this is not true?
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
On his show on October 1st, Alex was interviewing Matt Bracken, the guy who had to go away for a little while after it came out that he was promoting Storming the Capitol on Infowars prior to January 6th.
So he kind of made the we were set up by provocateurs thing look silly.
So we're not going to talk to Bracken for a little while.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably best.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's Matt on that show from October 1st.
matt bracken
Who throws the first blow is critical to shaping the opening stages of the Civil War.
unidentified
So what the left is trying to do...
matt bracken
Either a false flag provocation, which I still think is most likely probably somebody firing into a left-wing crowd, leaving right-wing literature at the scene.
Either that or another Charlottesville-type mentally psychotic loser who will be turned into a guided missile behind the wheel of a truck.
unidentified
also to plow into...
alex jones
Well, you said that about three months ago.
You said shooting into a crowd or running them over, copying the Islamic attack.
It'll probably be staged, and they'll use that as the red shirt.
dan friesen
So you can clearly tell that it was Matt Bracken who was suggesting that there will be a false flag shooting into a crowd.
And you can further hear Alex is saying that Bracken had been suggesting this idea of the shooting into a crowd for the past months.
This isn't a conversation that happens because God told Alex to make a breathtaking prediction.
It's a top priority message for Matt Bracken to get out because he doesn't want to be blamed for acts of domestic terrorism.
matt bracken
We see it in Ottawa yesterday.
A free speech rally by 5,500 Antifas show up.
unidentified
And they're mostly homeless losers that are paid to do that.
There's evidence coming out about that.
alex jones
Sure, we know it's synthetic.
unidentified
And then the same night in Edmonton, you know, thousands of miles to the west.
You have an ISIS truck rampage trying to do a Nice Barcelona attack.
These are the two pillars, the left and Islam.
They're working together.
matt bracken
You see it at the range with the hijab-wearing ladies being trained to shoot full-auto.
What are they really going to do with full-auto other than go to somewhere where there's a crowd?
unidentified
But it's important.
matt bracken
That the battlefield be prepared by having the mainstream media perception that a right-winger started it.
As long as the first big multi-casualty massacre is perceived to have been coming from the right, then all bets will be off, and when free assembly is outlawed and we're virtually under martial law, everybody in the media will say, well...
unidentified
The right wing did it because this crazy person...
alex jones
And I totally agree with you.
They tried that with Charlottesville, but it didn't work.
People saw that Andy Fuss started it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we just don't want people to think that we started it.
So this is all Matt Bracken that Alex has now decided was God talking to him.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But all this shooting in the crowd stuff is Matt Bracken.
unidentified
But believe me, what they want is a right wing fingerprint on a massive...
alex jones
That's right.
They're trying to induct us.
They're trying to get us to get into action.
matt bracken
Which we won't, but they will eventually, and Antifa is going to shoot into a left-wing crowd, a, you know, peace moms type of crowd, and leave right-wing literature.
And my message is, we have to immediately be ready to push back against the false narrative, because it's going to be a Dylann Roof type of a thing.
dan friesen
So what happened was that on that day...
One of the stories that Alex was covering was that he saw Muslim women at the shooting range and he got scared.
Matt Bracken came in and did this false flag shit-talking, including a lot of fantasies, but one of them involved Muslim women shooting into crowds to blame right-wingers.
These women would have presumably been trained at shooting ranges, like Alex's intrepid journalism had uncovered, and this is how this all connects together.
You can see the reality of what Alex's show was on the day of the Las Vegas shooting, and then you can listen to his version that he tells now, and if you do, you can really not escape the conclusion that he's a piece of shit liar making up stories about himself to convince the audience to treat him like a religious figure.
This is fraud on a level that is deeply upsetting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I think also to convince himself.
dan friesen
Yes.
I think that's a piece of it too.
jordan holmes
Both liar and audience member hoping to believe said lie.
dan friesen
He's not just in charge of the hair club for men.
jordan holmes
He's a member.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yep.
100%.
dan friesen
This is so fucked up.
And the idea that this happened, or this conversation about Muslim women shooting into a crowd as a false flag to blame right-wingers, the fact that it happened on the same day as the Las Vegas shooting...
It's like a coincidence, but Alex talks about that kind of shit all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's almost...
Far more likely for there to be more examples of this exact thing.
dan friesen
Oh, and there are, I'm sure.
If you wanted to stretch and really dig into what happened on what days, you could probably come up with any time that there's a bomb that goes off somewhere, somewhere in the world.
jordan holmes
He probably was saying something like that on that day.
dan friesen
It's meaningless in terms of proving some kind of definitive connection.
But I think that the important thing is...
That you have, on that day, Matt Bracken is doing this, they're gonna shoot into crowds stuff.
Alex has now rewritten this in his head as God told him this and he blurted it out out of nowhere and then there was a shooting.
jordan holmes
Where does it come from?
dan friesen
Probably the Angels.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
No, you're full of shit.
jordan holmes
Came from Matt Bracken.
dan friesen
Right.
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
Things are going great if you are mistaking Matt Bracken for the Angels.
dan friesen
You know.
It's the details.
You know what?
jordan holmes
Yeah, why are you getting bogged down?
Come on, man.
dan friesen
Just have fun with it.
Just believe it's God telling you that your enemies are the devil.
jordan holmes
Print the legend.
dan friesen
So we get back to the present day and we just have one more clip of Alex talking about the fallout of his fake prediction from God about the Las Vegas shooting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's hear the fallout.
alex jones
Oh my gosh.
I mean, look, I just feel like you guys need to know this.
You need to understand how the universe really works.
jordan holmes
God, I hate you.
alex jones
And...
The FBI guy goes, yeah, that's what we figured.
Well, if you ever want to work for us, we'll offer you a lot of money to do that.
And I said, I don't control it.
It's not me.
And he goes, yeah, that's what we figured.
Yeah, we understand.
Because you don't think they don't look into all that stuff?
You don't think they don't see stuff?
You don't think the famous detectives in history?
jordan holmes
Don't do this.
alex jones
This is a real thing, people.
So I'm going to move on from this.
dan friesen
You dumb asshole.
Do you think that detectives do work?
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
No.
They're psychics.
jordan holmes
How dare all of us?
dan friesen
The famous detectives from history like Sherlock Holmes.
jordan holmes
I blame all of us.
How do they work?
I blame our entire society for just whatever it was that made this man is our fault now.
dan friesen
It is on some level.
Jesus Christ.
This is a cultural...
Sort of problem that has flared up in the form of this person.
jordan holmes
He watched Rugrats and he was like, that's the fucking model for my existence, is making up bullshit like that.
Goddamn.
dan friesen
Obviously he's making up...
Like, a lot of this story about the FBI and them offering him a job and all that.
He kind of has to be, because it just doesn't track with what actually happened.
jordan holmes
Who are the great detectives?
dan friesen
Obviously, it's Sherlock Holmes.
jordan holmes
Because he really is referencing Sherlock Holmes as a real person.
Because he's not saying...
dan friesen
It's elementary.
jordan holmes
He's not saying the great detectives like fucking...
dan friesen
Detective detectives.
jordan holmes
Like Frank O 'Connell from the FBI in 1974 who handled the mafia.
dan friesen
No, it's someone who got a vision in an opium gun.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yes.
But I honestly think that this makes so much sense.
dan friesen
Because for Alex, research is bizarre ideas you have.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Research is like, I saw a tweet and it made me mad, so I thought about what the devil might be doing.
Like, for him, a detective isn't going over case files and interviewing people and kind of having a really boring job a lot of the time.
No, it's a fucking Sherlock Holmes vision kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Coke-filled excitement.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
And, um, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
He's a real idiot.
jordan holmes
Man, good on you, devil.
Good on you.
You picked a fucking winner.
I'll tell you that right now.
If I'm the devil, and I look at the world now, and I look at what he's allowed to get away with, I'd be like, fucking, I won!
Give it up!
dan friesen
I'm really, really looking forward now to the story of meeting the devil.
I need to pay off of that.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
What's he look like?
dan friesen
I want to hear more about...
Tucker's sexually charged throne experience.
jordan holmes
Are we doing classical Lightbringer?
Are we doing full-on angel devil?
Or are we doing evil horned devil?
Like, what are we doing here?
dan friesen
Here's my guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
Horns.
jordan holmes
You thinking horns?
Tail?
dan friesen
Yeah, and here's why.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Childhood's End.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The book.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
At the end of it, the aliens reveal themselves to be like...
The archetype image of devils.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is right.
They do.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so visually, from the physical form, I think Alex would believe horns and...
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Full-on satyr hooves and stuff like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Man, because I just feel like it's more interesting if you go with the Lightbringer devil.
You know?
Incredibly beautiful, very aloof.
That's perfect.
That's a perfect devil, because it's the devil that makes you think it's actually God.
That's the idea.
dan friesen
Alex believes that he can see the devil in people and its physical unattractiveness.
So, like, I don't think that the Lightbringer idea that you have is compatible with what he could do.
That's fair.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
And I also, I know you're saying it would be more interesting, but I think we're well past the point of, like, what's gonna be interesting.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
This dude is just a lying piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Just fucking diarrhea out his mouth all day, every day.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And this is how you decide to do the day after the election.
jordan holmes
Great!
Stakes are high, buddy!
dan friesen
If this is a sign of what's to come, we're going deep into sort of weird religious stuff and God's visions and demons.
And if that's the case, I guess that's the season we have to look forward to.
jordan holmes
I mean, I listen to this.
And then I immediately think that the next four years are going to be Willy Wonka's tunnel.
You know?
Just like, there is no way of knowing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then there's just going to be psychedelic weirdness going on, one of the kids is going to disappear, and then the fat kid's going up in the chocolate tube.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I'll probably end up reading a fair amount of books about demons.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
So that'll be fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
And I'll learn some new weird old names of demons, maybe.
jordan holmes
And if you fart, you'll float.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back with another episode, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do, it's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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