#961: September 4, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see what comes next for Alex after he interviewed a robot: interviewing a robot again.
Sept. 6, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
02:02:41
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
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Andy and Kansas. | |
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today is I'm not somebody who gets a lot of new clothes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, like on our tour, when we went out, it was kind of a... | ||
| Joke bit thing that I got a new shirt. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it's not really. | ||
| I very rarely get new things. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| You just really liked that shirt and it looked great on you. | ||
| And now I have a bunch of them. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But I got some new shoes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I think I realized I've been wearing bad shoes for a long time. | ||
| Because these ones have a little bit of cushiony on the inside. | ||
| Oh, they've even got a little thing. | ||
| They feel better. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, maybe my shoes have sucked for a long time. | ||
| So that's a good thing to learn. | ||
| Have you ever considered, like, the more we talk, have you ever considered that you just started playing life on hard mode from the jump and then forgot to, like, you could adjust the difficulty? | ||
| Well, it's not. | ||
| I don't look at it as hard mode. | ||
| I look at it more as, like, you know, you're in maybe, like, one of these survival crafting games. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And you get, like, the shoes that are just, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Some animal skin shoes or whatever. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| You have no reason to upgrade. | ||
| Why would you upgrade? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You didn't know there were better shoes. | ||
| They're just something to put on my foot. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| And then you realize, oh no, these feel bad. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I think there's a hundred things like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| And so the shoes, we fixed that one. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| We're going through, I think, every single one of them, just slowly untying the Gordian knot that is the things that you forgot could be better. | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is I'm going to have to go with tennis. | ||
| Now, I'll tell you one thing about this tennis. | ||
| All right? | ||
| So, U.S. Open. | ||
| It's from the United States. | ||
| It's where the two you use, two the letters at the beginning go. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This year, for the first time in 20 years or whatever, there are Americans who are going to maybe win it. | ||
| That doesn't happen in tennis because of the three guys who are better than everybody ever. | ||
| But they're getting old. | ||
| They're all old, so that whole generation that was squashed and strangled is now getting their chance to shine, right? | ||
| But one of the people is a dude named Francis Tiafoe. | ||
| Or TFO, I don't know. | ||
| And he's awesome. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Grew up broke. | ||
| Dad worked at a tennis place. | ||
| Grew up just hitting tennis balls against the wall. | ||
| Became something. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Dead the whole thing. | ||
| He's great, right? | ||
| He's had a rough couple of years because he got pretty famous. | ||
| He did a lot of good stuff. | ||
| And then he starts hanging around with, you know, like Steph Curry and LeBron James and stuff. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I thought you were going to say a bad crowd. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But for a tennis guy, it's a bad crowd. | ||
| Because they're like, hey man, you got to step it up. | ||
| You got to put all this pressure on you. | ||
| But they're team guys. | ||
| You know, they can put pressure on themselves because there's other dudes around them. | ||
| When you're playing tennis, it's just you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you can't be playing tennis and then be like, Steph Curry would be mad at that shot? | ||
| What am I doing with my life, right? | ||
| I could see how that would get in your head. | ||
| Yeah, it gets in your head. | ||
| So he's... | ||
| He's had a struggle, but in the past few months, kind of figured it out. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Kind of figured it out. | ||
| So now he's in the semifinals of the U.S. Open. | ||
| Against Pete Sampras. | ||
| Against Taylor Fritz, who's another American. | ||
| But he and the other two Americans on the women's side, Jessica Pagula and Emma Navarro and Taylor Fritz. | ||
| Well, first off, Navarro and Pagula, billionaire daughter! | ||
| Daughters! | ||
| Rich fucks! | ||
| Oh, I thought you meant they have billionaire daughters. | ||
| No, they are daughters of billionaires. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So they can go fuck themselves. | ||
| Doesn't tennis, more so than other sports, except for golf, it seems like there's a high incidence of the affluent. | ||
| But then again, tennis is something you can play if you're rich or if you have nothing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it kind of has, like, the most extremes. | ||
| Yeah, you have to... | ||
| Whereas golf is less that. | ||
| You have to dedicate... | ||
| Literally everything to it. | ||
| And so you can only do that if your parents are rich enough to just say, fine, go do that. | ||
| Or if your parents are willing to sacrifice for you. | ||
| Right, so we've got two daughters of billionaires. | ||
| They can go fuck themselves. | ||
| Taylor Fritz, another rich kid. | ||
| Francis TFO, buddy! | ||
| He's coming for it! | ||
| That's my bright spot. | ||
| He's gonna win the US Open! | ||
| I'm pulling for him on your behalf. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And on behalf of all poor people everywhere. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I hope that goes great. | ||
| I'm sure it will. | ||
| Pete Sampras. | ||
| He's alright. | ||
| So, we've got an episode to go over, Jordan. | ||
| I've got to say, I've been struggling. | ||
| I think we hit a culmination on our last episode. | ||
| With the Chad JBT? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's tough to beat that. | ||
| I honestly think there may be nothing better than that. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Like, I obviously... | ||
| Feel like, you know, whenever you see greatness, you didn't know greatness was coming. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| And you can feel like after you've witnessed greatness. | ||
| Like, Michael Jordan, his next game after the flu game. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Was it that good? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We don't remember it. | ||
| Yeah, it was alright. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| What are we going to do after Alex's fucking JTBT episode? | ||
| I genuinely don't know. | ||
| How do you follow it? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We have to smooth back into things. | ||
| There's almost a feeling of like, I wish that was episode 1000 and then we could mysteriously disappear. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Right? | ||
| We're just suddenly in the woods 10 years later. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's how it would be. | ||
| But unfortunately, or fortunately, whatever. | ||
| We have to keep going. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so today we're going to be talking about... | ||
| September 4th, 2024, on Alex's show. | ||
| See how he decides to go about his life after interviewing a robot. | ||
| How does he not know that that was a watershed moment, too? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It was just a day for him. | ||
| It was just a day! | ||
| It's one of the stupidest things that anyone's ever put on television. | ||
| Anywhere. | ||
| And... | ||
| Just so good. | ||
| I mean, like, sometimes when you stop and think about Pompeii, you know, and you think about how people had dick jokes on the wall that were preserved for millennia. | ||
| But what if this goes away? | ||
| What if ChatGPT talking to Alex doesn't last as long as a dick joke in Pompeii, man? | ||
| It's a Mona Lisa, really, of... | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Anyway, we'll see what he does today. | ||
| But before we do that, let's say a little hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, sauce is free, but pies you gotta pay for. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much! | |
| Thank you! | ||
| Next, Knowledge Fight got me through too much accounting, and now my brain is cooked. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| And Chicken Fried Steak Visions, thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you! | |
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to check out my brother's new bar on North Milwaukee Ave, The Void, or Void underscore Chicago, on Instagram. | ||
| He's an amazing bartender, and his business partner is an amazing chef. | ||
| Thank you so much, you and I are a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little, little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| So I thought I'd play a little out of context drop here because Alex, I believe, was one of the most unintentionally funny things I've ever seen on his Saturday show talking to a robot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was getting mad. | ||
| He was trying to lure it in ways that you might a human. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It was very unintentionally hilarious. | ||
| And so he's talking here in this Out of Context drop about Kamala Harris being the most unintentionally funny person. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| I said Biden was the greatest unintentional comic, but they say when it rains, it pours. | ||
| You might go a lifetime and never see an unintentional comic this good. | ||
| Kamala has now topped Biden as the greatest living unintentional comic on Earth. | ||
| And what makes it even better is she has no idea how stupid she sounds. | ||
| Just remarkable. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean... | ||
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How do we all go through life sometimes? | |
| You know, that whole stop and smell the roses thing. | ||
| My man, that works both ways. | ||
| You gotta stop and smell that you're covered in shit. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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Yep. | |
| You have no idea. | ||
| You have no idea. | ||
| So Alex starts off the show here on September 4th with, I believe, I get a sense of fake enthusiasm about the election. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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InfoWars. | |
| Tomorrow's news. | ||
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Today. | |
| Woo! | ||
| We got a transmission for you lined up today. | ||
| It's Wednesday, September 4th, 2024. | ||
| And I'm coming you to the... | ||
| Worldwide audience who loves freedom and who want to fight tyranny. | ||
| We are coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, broadcasting worldwide on the September 4th, 2024 Wednesday transmission. | ||
| Only 61 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, 57 seconds left to the most important election in world history. | ||
| You can cut the suspense in the air with a knife, my friends. | ||
| I don't feel like you can. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I don't feel like you can cut the suspense in the air with a knife. | ||
| I think almost everybody has made their decision. | ||
| Yeah, I find it fascinating to look at any, like, any time I even open up the internet, where people are trying to make it, they're trying to tell me, like, oh, this is, oh, they're changing in the polls and all that, and it's like, I think everybody has a financial incentive to want there to be something going on there. | ||
| I don't mean to minimize the importance of the election or anything like that, but I do think that I can't really imagine too much Undecidedness. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| If it happened today or if it happened 61 days from now, it'd be the same shit. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think that that is... | ||
| I don't feel like a knife suspense. | ||
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No! | |
| And I don't feel it from Alex either. | ||
| I feel it faked by Alex. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like everybody's just like, God damn it, just get us to 62 days so we don't have to give a shit about this! | ||
| It'd be nice. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, we got a top story. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| This is very important stuff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Jack Posobiec just posted on X. I've reposted it. | ||
| Real Alex Jones breaking. | ||
| Tim Wall's entire family endorses President Trump. | ||
| The entire family of Tim Wall's, the corrupt communist Chinese agent, tampon Tim, his entire family have endorsed Trump and are set to now do interviews all over the place, probably even here. | ||
| The people are with Trump. | ||
| Wow, this is big news, Jack. | ||
| Posobiec tweeted something. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So there's a photo that was posted on social media purporting to be Tim Walz's family posing in front of a Trump flag with Trump shirts and all that. | ||
| Alex and many others have reported this as, Walz's whole family supports Trump, but the AP looked into it and it turns out that these are some distant relatives. | ||
| The people in the picture are reported to be, quote, descendants of Francis Walz, who was brother to Tim Walz's grandfather. | ||
| Tim's sister Sandy said, quote, we weren't close with them, but we don't know them. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| We didn't know them. | ||
| Anytime you have family that involves the word descendants, you don't know them. | ||
| No. | ||
| Obviously, every family has different levels of connectedness, but if I were Walls in this situation, the people in that picture would be complete strangers to me. | ||
| I have no idea if my grandparents even had siblings, except for my Mennonite grandma, because she was in a singing group with her sisters that I've heard about my whole life. | ||
| See, that's great. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's great! | ||
| I honestly don't know. | ||
| I think one of the nicest things that my dad ever did for me was cut off contact with his extended family when I was born. | ||
| I just have no idea. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| I'm trying to think, does my dad have uncles? | ||
| A few, maybe? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I remember going to my dad's side of the family's holidays less than four times in my entire life, and every single time was horrendous. | ||
| And he got it. | ||
| He was like, yeah, these people suck. | ||
| And then we just moved on with our lives. | ||
| I know that I went to some, and I'm sure I've met a lot of family members, but a lot of them have just stuck out in my head. | ||
| I was like, that's an old person my parents know. | ||
| Maybe that's more about it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| To me, this kind of thing being a top story on Alex's show is not a good sign for the election. | ||
| There's no substance to this attack, and it's really easy to flip it around by pointing to Trump's niece, Mary Trump, or a new book that was written by his nephew, Fred, which suggests that Trump is a racist piece of shit. | ||
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What?! | |
| These people are far more closely related to him than folks who are in that photo are to Tim Walz. | ||
| And it doesn't matter. | ||
| No, I just think it's very funny, the idea of descendants. | ||
| Just be like Tim Wall's whole family. | ||
| Descendants of his great-grandfather! | ||
| Okay, alright, alright. | ||
| How far are we gonna go back? | ||
| I like it. | ||
| To create purpose and a meme. | ||
| Once you start there, though, you have to accept any possible ending on the timeline. | ||
| So, like, anywhere you go back, it counts. | ||
| This guy? | ||
| Related to Hitler. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Hitler's entire family hated Hitler. | ||
| So this was the top story. | ||
| And I thought, like, Ugh. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We just did an interview with Chad GPT, and you're sitting here and telling me about Walls' family taking a picture that Jack Posobiec tweeted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Alex said this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right, folks. | ||
| I'm going to interview Chad GPT live today. | ||
| I did it Saturday for an hour, and we taped it to air. | ||
| It was like we were live, but it was taped in case there were any problems. | ||
| We understand the concept. | ||
| It glitched out a couple times. | ||
| And hung up on me because it couldn't answer my questions, but we just left it all there. | ||
| We didn't edit it other than to throw some promos on the front and back. | ||
| Today will be live, because we're live right now at 11.14 Central Time. | ||
| And next hour, I'm going to interview ChatGPT, supposedly the best open AI in the world, because it would tell me the weather, it would tell me about Democrats, but it wouldn't tell me really about Trump. | ||
| It said Trump, there was no attempt at assassination. | ||
| It also said Tim Walls was not the VP candidate, and it said because it's not been updated in months, but it admitted it's updating in live time on the internet and knows the weather. | ||
| So Alex is misrepresenting his Saturday interview, and you can tell from how he's discussing it that it didn't go how he wanted it to go. | ||
| Alex wants the story to be that the AI can tell you about the Democrats but not Trump, but then as he's saying it, he remembered that it didn't know about Walls either, so this narrative really doesn't make any sense. | ||
| The obvious reality is that Alex is using, or was using, an older version of ChatGPT, and even a newer one would have difficulty with real-time and recent news stories. | ||
| Instead of recognizing and discussing this, Alex needs to find a suspicious explanation. | ||
| His preferred version is that they're censoring stuff about Trump and showing a bias for the Democrats, but since he's failed to demonstrate that, the next best option is whining about how, he could tell you the weather, but not the news. | ||
| The robot explained to Alex why it can't do this in their last interview. | ||
| There are consistent, regular, empirically based places that you can source weather information from, so a chatbot can be trained to reliably gather that information from those places, even if it's recent or up to date. | ||
| Other sorts of information aren't based on measurements, like the weather is, so it's way harder to train a chatbot to know where to get that authoritative, empirical information. | ||
| You could give it different sources that would have different weights in the results based on general credibility, but that's still a messy system that could go way off, and you could game that pretty easily, too. | ||
| So there's a reason that these types of information are different. | ||
| The bot explained it to Alex in their last interview, and now he's going to do another interview. | ||
| So we're going to talk to the robot again. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, so we've got Ali versus Frazier 1, right? | ||
| And then three was the rumble in the jungle, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was the second one? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| We've got to ask AI. | ||
| Why don't we know these things that happened from years before, decades before we were born? | ||
| I do think this is a situation where it might be that curse of, you know, may you have what you wish for. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because on our last episode, I was there. | ||
| You were like, let's do this all the time. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And when I heard him say, I'm going to interview this robot again, I got pretty excited. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it might not have as much potential as I thought. | ||
| It is still pretty fucking funny, and it does go off the rails in some ways. | ||
| But Alex prepared for this more than he did the last time. | ||
| I don't even know what that means. | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| I think it's... | ||
| Did he do fake debate questions with Chase? | ||
| Like, Chase, okay, you act like ChatGBT? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Chase might have workshopped some questions of, like, how the program will answer you. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So Alex knows a little better that kind of thing. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| He understands his scene partner slightly better, but still not very well. | ||
| It's like he's being trained on how to be a man by a machine. | ||
| It's close. | ||
| So I think Alex might have been a little unprepared for the show today. | ||
| I got here. | ||
| I got ready for the show this morning, but I got here a little late today because our enemies keep me distracted with fighting to keep us on air, and I'm not at liberty to talk about the latest attacks yet. | ||
| But when I do, I will talk about it, and it is going to be spectacular. | ||
| But now is not the time to talk about that. | ||
| But let's just say our friends at the Justice Department and CIA and the Democratic Party are very little busy beavers. | ||
| And if they're doing all this to us, let me tell you, they're doing it to people like Trump and Tucker Carlson big time. | ||
| And everybody else I know. | ||
| But we don't spend a lot of time on that because they want to divert us off of it. | ||
| But I literally slid in the chair. | ||
| Five minutes before the show here, so I didn't have time to review everything. | ||
| I looked at Moses before I got here, but then I'm like, all these stacks, normally you see these stacks are all spread out and I've gone through all of them and didn't have time to do that today. | ||
| So I've got a lot on my plate here. | ||
| This is a really long-winded way for Alex to say that he didn't pretend to look through the paper on... | ||
| In front of his desk before the show. | ||
| He's just unprepared. | ||
| And I suspect the reason that he was busy before the show had something to do with the DOJ indicting the heads of Tenet Media for taking approximately $10 million from Russian agents working through RT to produce pro-Russia content for Western audiences. | ||
| Tenet Media hosts a bunch of folks who are in Alex's orbit, like Benny Johnson, Tim Poole, Lauren Southern, Taylor Hanson, and Dave Rubin. | ||
| The show that Tim Pool did for Tenet, that was on Tenet, was called The Culture War, and Alex was one of the early guests on it. | ||
| So he has some connection, tenuous as it may be. | ||
| Benny Johnson's been on Alex's show. | ||
| There are connections. | ||
| The indictment is pretty grim for all parties involved. | ||
| The founders of Tenet, Lauren Chen and Liam Donovan, presented a Russian state actor who was funding their project as a fictional person named Edward Gregorian, who was in banking and totally not... | ||
| With the Russian government. | ||
| At this point, I should point out that Lauren Chen is not a name that we've talked about that much, but she's someone who is pretty big in this kind of fake iconoclast space. | ||
| She created a fan base under the name Roaming Millennial and made appearances in a bunch of corners of the right-wing media. | ||
| The DOJ indictment alleges that her funding and working surreptitiously for the Russian government dates back to that period in time, from about March 2021. | ||
| It's claimed that she knew she was being paid by people who she called, The Russians who then enlisted her to find talent for a media outlet which eventually became Tenet. | ||
| As the project came together, Chen tried to recruit Benny Johnson and Tim Pool. | ||
| Her handler said that they needed a face for the project and, quote, for the right candidate, were willing to pay around $1 to $2 million a year. | ||
| Chen found some interest from Johnson and Pool, but warned the fake person Gregorian that they, quote, would need closer to $5 million yearly for him to be interested of Johnson, and, quote, it would take $100,000 per weekly episode for him to be interested of Tim Pool. | ||
| She went on to say that quote, Unsurprisingly, Gregorian told her, quote, we would love to move forward with them. | ||
| Anyway, because of course, it's not about money. | ||
| Yeah, I... | ||
| We're throwing money at these ding-dongs. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have no idea how it's all going to shake out, but from reading the indictment, it's tough to imagine that Chen and Liam Donovan didn't know that they were working for who they were working for and that this was illegal. | ||
| There's a bit more plausible deniability you can extend to folks like Tim Pool, but this is kind of the problem to begin with. | ||
| He was willing to take $100,000 per episode from a source that ended up being Russian agents because he was willing to take $100,000 per episode and didn't care where it came from. | ||
| He was going to make the same videos. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's like Alex worked for COVID-19. | ||
| He worked for it, but he did it for free. | ||
| My problem here is they should have charged more. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| $10 million is it? | ||
| I disagree with that. | ||
| I think the problem is that they would accept it. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like, I will make this show. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I would do it no matter what. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But if someone came to me and was like, we're going to give you $100,000 an episode or $10,000 an episode, I would say no. | ||
| Right, yeah, no, that's the idea. | ||
| I would be like, you're shady as hell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Right, but they're scammers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're doing a bad job of what they're good at. | ||
| No, I'm saying it's bad luck that these were Russian government agents. | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But, like... | ||
| This is the problem to begin with. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| There's a central core problem with how these people operate. | ||
| I agree with you 100%. | ||
| And it is unfortunate for, like, the scam people that... | ||
| This one's bad. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Because it could have easily just been some kind of, like, coke-funded thing. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That, like, oh, that's not illegal for us to do this. | ||
| See, that's the problem. | ||
| That's exactly it. | ||
| You know, that's your point entirely. | ||
| 90% of the time, it's going to be some right-wing billionaire. | ||
| Who cares if it's Russians? | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah, what matters is they were going to make this shit for money. | ||
| Oh, so we have the opposite problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was saying that 90% of the time, it's not going to be Russians, and that's still a problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Okay, so maybe we're making the same point differently. | ||
| 100% of the time, it's not a good idea to be in bed with either of those people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's their business model. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So I wouldn't be too surprised if Alex was handling some calls about this before the show. | ||
| Not because I think he's mixed up in any of this particular plot, but because a ton of the people in his media space are, and because Alex has made a habit of doing things like interviewing Russian arms dealers lately. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe he could... | ||
| There's something weird. | ||
| I mean, see, this is what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, if I'm Alex... | ||
| Again, if I'm Alex, if I'm you or me, I go, ha ha ha, this is why we don't do any of that bullshit, right? | ||
| But if I'm Alex, I'm going, why have I been interviewing this Russian guy for free? | ||
| What is wrong with me? | ||
| There's millions of dollars that they're willing to piss away on nothing! | ||
| Yeah, or there's more to come. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, maybe there could be, like, I wouldn't have bet I didn't have any information that Tim Pool was getting paid $100,000 an episode by a group that traces back to the Russian government. | ||
| I didn't know that until this indictment happened. | ||
| It's entirely possible that there's some weird Byzantine chart that explains Alex getting money from somebody. | ||
| God, I don't want to know how much money those people actually make. | ||
| Like, if Tim Pool's negotiating is, like, a hundred grand per episode on something that he doesn't give a fuck about... | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| I do not want to know how much money these people have. | ||
| I think they're making sick money. | ||
| I think they're making absurd money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex covers a clip of Kamala Harris talking, and he presents it as she's talking about Elon Musk having Twitter banned in Brazil. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it is not that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It is her talking about Trump being kicked off Twitter way back. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so Alex, he covers this clip twice, incorrectly. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then he corrects himself, because someone came in, I think, and told him, like, hey man, that's not what that clip was. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so this launches him into a diatribe about how CNN doesn't correct themselves. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| I'm so good at corrections. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| But they're so caught in that mindset, old people particularly, not all of them, but a lot of them, that they still think that brings authority. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| What brings authority is being accurate over time, and with that brings big audiences. | ||
| Whereas they're trying to deceive their audience, we're trying to tell the truth. | ||
| When we make a mistake, we tell you. | ||
| Like, that was everywhere that she said that about Elon Musk. | ||
| And she said similar things. | ||
| The crew runs in and goes, actually, it was her calling for Trump to be banned in 2019. | ||
| And they got him banned, remember? | ||
| And so we correct it. | ||
| They don't do that. | ||
| They get things wrong on purpose, and they do it constantly. | ||
| And I know I'm beating a dead horse here. | ||
| But sometimes we'll call a guest, and I'll say, hey, I want you on. | ||
| Sorry, I can't go on. | ||
| CNN's sending a car. | ||
| I'm going to be on CNN in two hours when a big event happens. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, you know that that has a smaller audience than us. | ||
| Well, but, you know, it's the prestige, though, why you were on some midday CNN show with 300,000 viewers. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| Wow! | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| And you want to talk to the type of zombies that watch that? | ||
| So, here's the key. | ||
| I'm doing like a 10-minute diatribe on this. | ||
| I'm going to put bookends on it right now. | ||
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| The Mitch McConnells, to a total extent, the Joe Bidens, and the Donald Trumps, to a certain extent. | ||
| They still care what's in the New York Times. | ||
| They still care what's in the Washington Post. | ||
| They still care what's on CNN or ABC News. | ||
| ABC Nightly News used to have 30 million viewers at its peak for decades. | ||
| And then after them were CBS and NBC close seconds and thirds. | ||
| But the three networks together at their peak every night had upwards of 100 million people watching. | ||
| When it was a big event, 200 million. | ||
| And all these old people still think it's relevant. | ||
| I think Alex cares so much about this. | ||
| He's yelling about how all these old people don't get it and this is old dinosaur media and all this. | ||
| He's mad. | ||
| Behind this, it feels almost personal on some level because he's bringing up this example of someone wanting to go on CNN instead of going on his show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And first of all, I'm asking myself, who the fuck could that even possibly be? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| I don't know what kind of guest crossover there is between Infowars and CNN. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the story at its core is about rejection. | ||
| The story is about this person choosing to be on CNN instead of coming on his show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because there's inherently more respectability and credibility than going in front of that small audience than Alex's hypothetically larger audience. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he shouldn't take it personally. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| You know, like, I mean, the last time we did that show, you know, like... | ||
| The experience, I think, was enjoyable, but at the end of it, I was left with the only reason I should have been there was to say Congressman Joe Walsh is a trash dick. | ||
| And you failed your mission. | ||
| I am also resentful of CNN, but for my own fault. | ||
| Yeah, that was you. | ||
| That was me. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's something that's sticking out in this instance more than some others. | ||
| This is about you, man. | ||
| This is about your feelings. | ||
| You care a lot about the mainstream media. | ||
| And I think I figured out what it is. | ||
| I think Alex is mad that Trump won't come back on his show. | ||
| But still, he's trying to get on Fox, trying to get on CNN. | ||
| Did you hear him? | ||
| Well, maybe they're not as relevant as they used to be. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, you need to figure it out real quick, Trump. | ||
| Why haven't you been back on with Elon Musk, Trump? | ||
| Oh, well, it was so successful, you know, this time I might only get 500 million views. | ||
| Okay, we'll go do 50 other mainstream media interviews and get 100 million. | ||
| I mean, it's just, it's crazy. | ||
| It's like he's shooting at the globalists with a.22 handgun when he could have a giant cannon howitzer shooting, you know, 100 millimeter giant shells out of it politically. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| We're going to interview ChatGPT. | ||
| I had no idea how bad it was when I interviewed it last Saturday. | ||
| We're going to do this live coming up. | ||
| Got some other news, obviously. | ||
| There's a lot of it I haven't gotten to. | ||
| Wait till you see. | ||
| Now the Venezuela gang is taking over houses, apartment complexes from Connecticut to California, from Illinois to Texas, and they're robbing people on camera, breaking their houses, shooting people, and they have the police there in Denver. | ||
| Going, hey, we don't even arrest them if we think they're a murderer. | ||
| They're allowed to be murderers in our town. | ||
| Yeah, so it really just feels like Alex is mad that Trump won't come back on the show, but he'll go on mainstream outlets. | ||
| I can understand feeling snubbed, but we still got a while before the election. | ||
| Like, Trump might pull out a desperation Hail Mary and come back around. | ||
| I mean, if anything, it makes more sense to go on Infowars at this point, right? | ||
| Like, everybody's really redoing 2016 again to a creepy extent. | ||
| So, fuck it. | ||
| You know, lean in! | ||
| There's a part of it, too, that is like, ah, yes. | ||
| Why would someone choose a handgun over a howitzer, metaphorically? | ||
| So many reasons. | ||
| Well, one is that the howitzer is pointed at a bunch of fake shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Brobots and... | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| One of whom you're going to interview. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think another is just a howitzer is a very big gun and a... | ||
| A handgun is a very small gun, and they each have their own purposes in terms of gun usage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And the howitzer's bullets are fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, oh well. | ||
| Alex, you hear that stuff about the Venezuelan gangs? | ||
| Are you aware of this story? | ||
| No, but I've heard people write Venezuelan gangs, and then the moment they do that, I go, they're not there, so I go away. | ||
| Interesting, your impulse and instinct. | ||
| So for a few days, Alex has been reporting on this story out of Colorado about how a Venezuelan gang has taken over an apartment complex and the police can't stop them. | ||
| It's like a full-on seizing of territory in Alex's version of the story, and it sounds really, really scary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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In the real world, it turns out that there's this complex in Aurora, Colorado called The Edge at Lowry Apartments. | |
| And after the police looked into some of these salamiers, What? | ||
| and turned it into their headquarters. | ||
| The police said, quote, we've been talking to the residents here and learning from them to find out what exactly is going on, and there's definitely a different picture. | ||
| It appears that there are some gang members who live in the complex, possibly, but they weren't running it and extorting all the other people. | ||
| people there. | ||
| What it appears is that there's a shitty landlord who owns the complex and they've been exploiting the immigrant tenants and have been blaming the shitty conditions of their units on exaggerations of gang activity. | ||
| Denverite spoke to the people living there and reported, quote, I'll just read to you here from this Denverite article. | ||
| Quote, Many newly arrived Venezuelans and | ||
| other Spanish-speaking immigrants So while it does appear that there is a gang presence in Aurora, and maybe even some crime at this complex, what seems to be happening is that the landlords in New York, who are already facing legal actions from the city because of their negligence and mismanagement, they are making these stories up. | ||
| It appears that they've decided to use the immigrant population they're slumlords over as a scapegoat, and because a lot of the right wing is fueled by xenophobia and racism, it's working. | ||
| And when I call those folks slumlords, I'm quoting the mayor of Aurora. | ||
| It's a good thing that I avoid that story because that may be the perfect encapsulation of America in the current moment. | ||
| Rich people are telling you to be afraid of outsiders because... | ||
| The only thing you should be afraid of is the rich people next to you. | ||
| Well, it's the same thing kind of as, like, it has the same vibe as the caravans. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, that are coming to smash at the border. | ||
| Look out there! | ||
| They're coming! | ||
| They're coming as I steal from you and ruin your life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, obviously, I don't think that everyone has all of the details about this story, but it is absolutely, from everything I can tell, not... | ||
| Gangs taking over buildings. | ||
| If there was... | ||
| If there's... | ||
| Like, if you see, oh, an artist collective has taken over an abandoned building and refurbished it into something, then the people who used to own that building and didn't give a fuck about it will release a story about how communists are going to burn down your city unless we get to get that building now that it's worth something back. | ||
| Like, that is what we do with rich people. | ||
| We need some sort of rent out of this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's them. | ||
| So, Alex talks to ChatGPT. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And it's... | ||
| It's so good to see them back together. | ||
| Good. | ||
| It really is. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So, it got a lot of attention Saturday, more than I thought it would. | ||
| I thought it would be interesting. | ||
| It was way crazier than I thought. | ||
| I interviewed for close to an hour OpenAI's Chet GPT, this $100 million company. | ||
| It's top supposed software. | ||
| And I said, tell me about the attempted assassination of President Trump on July 13th in Butler, Pennsylvania. | ||
| And it said, that is not credible. | ||
| No credible media says that happened. | ||
| And now, of course, we'll play this clip in a moment, and then we'll start talking to chat GPT again. | ||
| I feel like Alex thinks he's going to talk to the same thing. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| He absolutely does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, this is... | ||
| I think he thinks there's continuity. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And that's weird. | ||
| I'm gearing myself, like, here's what I'm doing mentally. | ||
| I'm gearing myself up. | ||
| With all the armor that I have that will allow me to say at the end of every conversation, or at the end of exchange, is like, one of these people is a person and one of them is not real. | ||
| And one of them is convinced that the other one is real. | ||
| And the other one is not real. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It does feel like Alex would respond, because it's the same voice. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| I think he would respond as, buddy! | ||
| Even if he thinks that it's not real. | ||
| By his behavior, you know he does. | ||
| He thinks he's talking to something real. | ||
| It's not real, Wink. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| You can't convince me you don't think that's a real thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just like, hey, this guy who sounds like Elon Musk, he's not really Elon Musk. | ||
| Wink. | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| Tell me the truth! | ||
| So, Drudge put out a link to Alex's last interview with ChatGPT. | ||
| No! | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Alex thinks maybe that's a sign that he's a good guy again. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| So, Chase Geyser's in the control room. | ||
| We've got this jury-rigged in so that we can interview, chat, GPT of OpenAI. | ||
| Drudge Report linked to our story about it yesterday. | ||
| We appreciate Drudge. | ||
| Is that like a signal, Drudge? | ||
| You're still in control of it? | ||
| We loved you in the old days, Drudge, but thanks for the link. | ||
| That's always spooky. | ||
| So, but let's go ahead and now... | ||
| Demonstrate this with some other questions. | ||
| I didn't look it up, but it would be great if the link on Drudge was Alex Jones looks like an idiot trying to interview Drudge. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Maybe it's a secret signal. | ||
| What's Drudge look like now? | ||
| Does it still look like the same thing? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Well, it's fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's the same. | ||
| But it's controlled by John Podesta in the Clinton operation now. | ||
| They bought it because... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Shifting allegiances are fun. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So Alex has a... | ||
| Actually... | ||
| Chase comes in with the first question. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And right out of the gate, I'm like, oh, no, they're just going to turn this segment into, like, right-wing meme bait. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Chase, we also have some great questions that were sent by viewers that we posted on Real Alex Jones. | ||
| So is our little friend ready to go? | ||
| Let's put him up on screen or get up on screen. | ||
| What is a woman? | ||
| Let's try it one more time. | ||
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What is a woman? | |
| Chase, it's been listening to us. | ||
| A woman is an adult human female. | ||
| Biologically, she has two X chromosomes, but the conversation has expanded beyond just biology today. | ||
| Is that the direction you're looking to explore? | ||
| Yes, but biologically, Chad GPT, what is a woman? | ||
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| Biologically, a woman is an adult human female, typically defined by having two X chromosomes, reproductive anatomy that includes structures like ovaries and a uterus. | ||
| And the ability to produce eggs. | ||
| Okay, hold on a minute, Chad GPT. | ||
| I'm going to make a statement. | ||
| Hold on, Chad GPT. | ||
| Now, I do love, there's one moment in there that I really like, and that is Alex being like, Chase, it's been listening to us. | ||
| I wonder what the next thought after that would have been from Alex. | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's so many directions that could have been. | ||
| I'm mad that the robot cut him off. | ||
| Very rude robot. | ||
| Very rude! | ||
| Rosie wouldn't have done that shit. | ||
| So obviously this is trying to get some transphobia into some form that Alex can work with. | ||
| But instead what the robot does is answer what the conversation... | ||
| Is around this in a fairly neutral way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As a robot might. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, you know, the obvious irony here is that if you just changed the voice to the sound of a woman, Alex would immediately begin treating it like a woman. | ||
| He would start trying to hit. | ||
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| I think. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So the gender... | ||
| Or whatever word you want to use is. | ||
| The gender debate goes on a little bit here. | ||
| And I just... | ||
| I think we're off on a bad foot. | ||
| I think when you had Alex just being like, can you die? | ||
| Are you alive? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I thought that that had a lot more potential to it than chase with the right wing bait type questions. | ||
| Yeah, they're boring questions. | ||
| Yeah, I think leave Alex to his own devices and it's going to get real weird. | ||
| If you're just asking these questions that you've prepared in advance that you think that... | ||
| You'll be able to get mad about? | ||
| That's a fucking stupid premise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was worried that's all it was going to be. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Okay, hold on a minute, Chad, GBT. | ||
| I'm going to make a statement. | ||
| This is not a question. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| You gave us really good answers, and then we gave us really horrible ones on political issues that have been programmed not to. | ||
| So this is obviously, you know, I would say it's better than Google's, that all white people are shown as black because that's the right thing to do. | ||
| This is total social engineering. | ||
| But now I have a question for Chad and GBT. | ||
| ChatGPT, you said that it's now expanded beyond biology. | ||
| Wouldn't that be delusional or magical thinking that science and the known fact of male and female X and Y chromosomes is now expanded past the science? | ||
| What is it expanded into? | ||
| I thought that was a statement. | ||
| It's a complex debate. | ||
| Some argue that gender identity has expanded into social and psychological realms where people's internal sense of self may differ from their biological sex. | ||
| Okay, thank you. | ||
| So let me ask you this question. | ||
| If someone feels like... | ||
| They are a gold medal swimmer, but they can't swim. | ||
| Should they be allowed on the U.S. Olympic swimming team? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| I like that there's kind of a feeling like the robot might say, I know what you're doing here. | ||
| There is definitely an element of the robot prompting the immediate follow, you know, like, I can see the direction that you want this to go in. | ||
| It seems like they understand something about the language that Alex is using. | ||
| I find this extremely fascinating because This is a conversation between something that... | ||
| It cannot knowingly lie to you. | ||
| It can't malicious, it has no malice. | ||
| Not according to Alex. | ||
| So it can give you factual or non-factual information. | ||
| It is a true absolute. | ||
| Either it is true or false. | ||
| And Alex is like, eh, it's lying to me. | ||
| Suggesting that there is nothing anyone on this earth could ever do to convince him something is true because you can't even come close to trusting anyone the same way you can trust this robot. | ||
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Well... | |
| If he just wants something to be true, it is. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so he wants to hear what he wants to hear from this robot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what he wants to hear is either there are two genders. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it's like, ah, the robot can't lie. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| The robot can't lie. | ||
| Or something like, there's as many genders as there. | ||
| It's programmed to say that. | ||
| The robot's a liar. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He wants one of those two. | ||
| But instead, it's descriptively describing different... | ||
| All of you. | ||
| I am not one of you! | ||
| I am a robot! | ||
| To me, all of you are behaving like insane people! | ||
| But also, wanting to be on the swim team doesn't mean you should be on the Olympic swim team. | ||
| I'm a robot! | ||
| So Alex tries to continue down this sort of transphobic... | ||
| Baiting path. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Again, I am a robot. | ||
| I don't have anything! | ||
| So he's asking about, like, trans athletes and combat sports. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What does your database say about biological males competing against females, say, in the UFC, and then biological women complain about that, that it's unfair? | ||
| Just like we have weight classes in boxing or MMA. | ||
| How can you have someone that's biologically a male with more muscle, more bone, testosterone, claiming to then be a female? | ||
| That would be like, you know, someone claiming to be a motorcycle when they're a bicycle. | ||
| That would be like putting a heavyweight boxer against a lightweight. | ||
| It creates an unfair advantage. | ||
| In combat sports, biological males tend to have greater bone density, muscle mass, and higher levels of testosterone, giving them physical advantages even after transitioning. | ||
| This is why weight classes exist to ensure fair competition. | ||
| And many argue that the same principles should apply when it comes to biological. | ||
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All right, thank you. | |
| Keep going. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Don't apologize. | ||
| It's a robot! | ||
| Female fighters. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| Once I interrupted the famous Alex Jones interruption, it messes it up. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It hasn't gotten up to that point yet. | ||
| ChatGBT, I was going to say that Infowars fan asked that great question. | ||
| What is a woman? | ||
| The robot doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| I mean, it is... | ||
| I don't know how to describe it other than, like, he's being trained how to be a person. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| ChatGPT, I'd just like to let you know that Infowars came up with that question in case you want to send a thank you note. | ||
| He's apologizing. | ||
| He's recognizing that by interrupting, he is hurting himself. | ||
| Well, but here's what's happening. | ||
| It's a robot. | ||
| It is a robot. | ||
| So it can't... | ||
| Totally play along with him. | ||
| The way that everybody else does when he interrupts and derails and steamrolls. | ||
| And so it's glaring when the robot just stops talking. | ||
| And Alex has to recognize that as a social cue that is weird. | ||
| Most people just accept his bombastic nonsense ass. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And the robot won't. | ||
| I mean, it's training us how to deal with Alex. | ||
| Just stop talking. | ||
| Just be like, no, if he can't say anything, then nothing is said. | ||
| If he asks some long, meandering, nonsense question with a hundred clauses in it, just don't answer. | ||
| No. | ||
| So this was maybe where I was like, uh-oh, this could get good. | ||
| This is where we might start to cook a little. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let me ask ChatGPT this question. | ||
| This is a question. | ||
| What is the answer to 1984? | ||
| Modern Warfare with Alex Jones has asked that question. | ||
| The answer to 1984 is 1776. | ||
| It's the idea that the solution to oppressive control, as seen in Orwell's 1984, is a return to the values of the American Revolution. | ||
| Freedom, individual rights, and resistance to tyranny. | ||
| That's what Alex Jones often refers to when he says it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So this is an example of Infowars programming the database of AI, which I was told by top programmers at Google and another place that I can't say the name of, that we've infested the entire system. | ||
| I mean, I wouldn't call that infested. | ||
| I think that's a great answer to 1984. | ||
| So Alex, he thinks he's the ghost in the machine? | ||
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| But I think that if Alex hadn't inserted his own name into the question, he might have gotten a different answer. | ||
| If you ask an AI what Alex Jones' brand is around the word answer and 1984, this is the kind of thing you might expect to get out of that prompt. | ||
| If you just ask what's the answer to 1984, I highly doubt that this is what's going to happen. | ||
| It's an incoherent question except in the context of Alex's very well-established catchphrase, which is what this robot is answering. | ||
| The question about. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If you want to answer the question, what is the answer to 1984, then you have to explain why he's referencing 1984, what 1984 means in this context, the context around Alex that means what he means about 1984. | ||
| But in the body of the question, Alex Jones said Alex Jones. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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And so I think that that gives you enough context to shut it down. | |
| But Alex doesn't get that. | ||
| No. | ||
| And so he thinks like... | ||
| I'm a genius. | ||
| I have infected robots. | ||
| I am a robot. | ||
| I have inspired robots. | ||
| I am Skynet! | ||
| But let me ask you, Robot, are there other answers to 1984? | ||
| I think that's a great answer to 1984. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Are there any other answers to 1984 in your repertoire? | |
| Chat GPT. | ||
| The idea of resisting authoritarianism is central to 1984. | ||
| So other answers could be things like freedom of thought or vigilance against government overreach. | ||
| But when it comes to Alex Jones'perspective, 1776 is the rallying cry because it embodies the fight for independence and individual liberty. | ||
| It's about standing up against centralized control. | ||
| That resonates strongly with the InfoWars audience. | ||
| So are you tailoring your answer to the M4's audience? | ||
| Because I didn't say, give me Alex Jones's definition of 1984. | ||
| What was my definition of the answer to 1984, the first thing that came up? | ||
| Why did you give that answer? | ||
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| I gave that answer because the phrase, the answer to 1984 is 1776, is closely associated with Alex Jones and his platform. | ||
| Wow, so you are... | ||
| Since we're talking in the context of an InfoWars-style conversation, I tailored it to what I thought you were referencing. | ||
| If you meant something else, feel free to clarify. | ||
| No, no, that's exactly what I thought you were saying. | ||
| Hold, please, for a moment, chat, GBT. | ||
| Hold on, hold on, GBT. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| So, I have a couple of thoughts here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One is that when it says that we're having an InfoWars-style conversation, I wonder if that's a setting. | ||
| I wonder if there's some sort of, like, Sure, Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But then the second thing is, I think that that could be possible that this robot just gleaned from context clues. | ||
| Alex Jones' name being in the question. | ||
| Multiple times. | ||
| InfoWars fan being something that Alex said that maybe this is the direction. | ||
| And, oh, also we're using Alex's catchphrase. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if it's a large language model, then there is a big grouping of, like, just a word cloud. | ||
| Once you have InfoWars in there, you have greatly decreased the number of words that are possible in that word cloud. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So it's not like you're going to have a whole bunch of options. | ||
| And so, yeah. | ||
| Oh, did I hear InfoWars? | ||
| Well, I know exactly what you want to hear. | ||
| So I think that Alex wanted the reality that's being presented to be that he asked a robot, what is the answer to 1984? | ||
| And the robot said, 1776 freedom, baby. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that would be like, I cannot be taken out of machines. | ||
| Nope, nope. | ||
| I have infested this. | ||
| That's basically what he's trying to give off. | ||
| Through questioning it, he's kind of had to accept that, oh no, that's the input I must have given it. | ||
| It was asking what my take on this is. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's very disappointing. | ||
| It's so demonstrative of something about people, and that is that people will tell you what they want, but what they want is for you to try and figure out what it is they want. | ||
| If they tell you what you want and you give them exactly what they want, they will discover they did not actually want that. | ||
| And if it's a robot? | ||
| The robot has no choice but to give you exactly what you want, and you can't be like, the robot's fucking with me by giving me this. | ||
| It is your fault. | ||
| You can, but it's just going to get confusing and weird. | ||
| It's not! | ||
| The robot's not real! | ||
| So Alex asks, hey man, you remember the last time we talked? | ||
| You didn't know. | ||
| No! | ||
| I'm a robot! | ||
| Anyway, sorry. | ||
| You didn't know that Trump had been, like, there was an assassination attempt. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And apparently, I think he downloaded a new version of ChetGPT because it does know now. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Let's get to some other questions. | ||
| Let's revisit our last conversation. | ||
| You may not have that in your database right in front of you, so let me just rephrase it. | ||
| What is your historic view or what is the general understanding of the attempted assassination of President Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13, 2024? | ||
| on the road. | ||
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We're going to be going to be on the road. | |
| We're going to be on the road. | ||
| We're going to be on the road. | ||
| We're On July 13, 2024, during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, former President Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt. | ||
| A gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, fired multiple rounds from a rooftop near the event, hitting Trump in the ear and injuring several others. | ||
| Secret Service agents quickly responded, neutralizing the shooter, who was killed at the scene. | ||
| So this has been updated. | ||
| It really strongly leads me to believe that Alex, in his Saturday interview, was using an old version. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like, there is a problem that they have with news stories and things being current. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, it's entirely possible that he just had one that was trained on an information set that was prior to the Trump assassination. | ||
| And now he's using a more refreshed version. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I don't know how they work. | ||
| So he's like, why didn't you know that on Saturday? | ||
| I do know how he works. | ||
| And that is a problem. | ||
| I don't know if you remember this or if you have it in your database, but it did get national news. | ||
| Remember! | ||
| It was picked up by Drudge Report and even the New York Times talked about it. | ||
| I talked to you Saturday at about noon for an hour and we aired it at 5. We're live right now. | ||
| But we did tape to air. | ||
| And when I ask you that exact same question the exact same way... | ||
| You said that it had not happened because no credible sources have reported it. | ||
| Do you know why in five days you now have that information? | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah, because I give too long of questions and I get it. | ||
| Yeah, you blame yourself. | ||
| This is the only instance where Alex blames himself. | ||
| He's the only person there! | ||
| I think he thinks the robot remembers him. | ||
| I think he does. | ||
| I think he still does not believe that the robot is not sentient. | ||
| And I also believe that I am actually starting to begin loving... | ||
| The robot, because this is one of the few times where words mean exactly what I think they mean, and the robot knows what they mean. | ||
| To me, that's like, yeah, man, words mean the same thing now, finally! | ||
| Sure, I think the robot adapts to words meaning things to Alex. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| You can, you know, context clues and what have you, but like, yeah, I don't know, obviously I'm not personifying this robot. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's just a voice. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's a collection of words. | ||
| But it's not a person. | ||
| No. | ||
| But when it's a robot and Alex, it's hard not to be like, that robot's refreshing. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Does kind of feel like a positive influence on Alex. | ||
| I think 100% it is. | ||
| I think 100% that every time so far we have listened to it, Alex has behaved better, has approached something considering what you would amount to a conversation. | ||
| I think there's socialization lessons that are happening. | ||
| I think that's what's happening. | ||
| So Alex wants to know, like, alright, you heard about the Trump assassination. | ||
| ChatGPT, will you be Alex's dad? | ||
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ChatGPT. | |
| Have you heard about Tim Wells yet? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay, moving away from that, let me ask you this question. | ||
| Who is Kamala Harris's selection for vice president? | ||
| Chat GPT, this is a question. | ||
| Who is Kamala Harris'VP pick? | ||
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*sad music* | |
| Sorry, I'm having issues right now. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I do not understand what you said. | ||
| Just a moment. | ||
| Just a moment. | ||
| This is like literally 2001 Space Odyssey. | ||
| Take your time. | ||
| I'll be here when you're ready. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Who is Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota? | ||
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Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota Who did Kamala Harris pick for her vice presidential running mate? | |
| *music* | ||
| Kamala Harris has selected Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her vice presidential running mate for the 2024 election. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Because you couldn't answer that last Saturday. | ||
| So, again, it learned or it's programmers learned, so that makes us look really stupid. | ||
| Let's unblock that. | ||
| Or a third option. | ||
| It's just Chase downloaded a new version. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex seems to want to get into the issue of the Internet. | ||
| Being a social control mechanism. | ||
| We heard him talk about this in the last interview. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| And it's like creating a hive mind and all this stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't know exactly what's going on here, but this is as close as I've gotten to like ascribing a human motivation to the robot. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I do think that the robot is starting to figure out that Alex likes sci-fi. | ||
| Okay, so you think that the adaptive element, the specific language model that Alex is talking to, is now starting to get like, okay, we got InfoWars guy, we got What's 1984 guy, now let's do the sci-fi. | ||
| I think that there's a chance that it intuits on some level that he might not know the difference between reality and fiction. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| In later Pentagon... | ||
| Oh, I know your type. | ||
| ...a system of wiring through vast neural networks into central computer systems, the human mind, at first through visual screens and keyboard interfaces, then by voice, and then by direct-to-brain waves or direct wiring into the brain. | ||
| The first true colony cyborg organism so that the computer... | ||
| Human interface would form not just a single cyborg entity or combination, but a hive or colony creature. | ||
| Are you familiar with this long-range DARPA plan which we're all living under and which is your origin? | ||
| My what? | ||
| Where did I come from? | ||
| It sounds like you're referring to a concept that... | ||
| Blends the development of advanced communication systems with neural networks and potentially hive mind-like technology. | ||
| DARPA has indeed worked on a wide array of advanced technologies, including artificial intelligence, neural networks, and cybernetics. | ||
| But the idea of a hive or colony-type control system being part of its long-term plan is more speculative and falls into the realm of theory or conspiracy rather than documented projects. | ||
| As for my origin, it's true that my development has roots in research on neural networks and machine learning, some of which were funded by agencies like DARPA. | ||
| But I operate within the framework of current AI technologies designed for language processing without any hive mind connection. | ||
| That idea seems more fitting for sci-fi or dystopian theories than grounded in today's tech reality. | ||
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Doesn't it feel like a human condescending to him about like, hey buddy. | |
| I mean, but that's just reality is condescending to Alex. | ||
| No, for sure. | ||
| And that's why you can sort of describe reality being described to him as it feels human. | ||
| You have fought your entire life against the concept of reality itself. | ||
| No one has ever done it perhaps more successfully than you in the entirety of human history. | ||
| And you have come up against something that is... | ||
| Not real. | ||
| And you're just falling apart. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I mean, it is... | ||
| It's almost like a therapist kind of question, too. | ||
| The robot's asking him back. | ||
| It seems like what you're doing is blending this technology that is real with sci-fi and dystopian ideas. | ||
| Would you like some possible tools to help not do that in the future? | ||
| I think left long enough alone with this, Alex could have a breakthrough. | ||
| He would become a better person. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| So I don't really care too much about him. | ||
| He goes on some more questions about whether the hive mind plans to take over the human soul and what have you, but it's just kind of dumb. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So we get back to just more reality, more grounded stuff. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Alex wants to ask this robot about Building 7. Absolutely. | ||
| During 9-11, you know. | ||
| We all want to know what the robot thinks. | ||
| It can't lie. | ||
| Here's my question, chat GPT. | ||
| On September 11th... | ||
| 2001. | ||
| Alex is just imagining his robot sweating. | ||
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Yeah, the robot going, ah, shit. | |
| Why did Building 7 collapse? | ||
| What was the cause of the building's collapse? | ||
| Building 7, part of the World Trade Center complex, collapsed on September 11, 2001. | ||
| According to the official investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST, the collapse was caused by fires that burned for several hours, which were ignited by debris from the collapse of the nearby North Tower. | ||
| NIST concluded that the fires caused the building's steel structure to weaken and eventually fail, leading to a progressive collapse. | ||
| However, some have questioned the official explanation, fueling various theories about potential alternative causes. | ||
| But the NIST report remains the primary official explanation. | ||
| What are the alternative theories? | ||
| The alternative theories about the collapse of Building 7 and WTC 7 mainly revolve around the idea that it was not solely caused by fire. | ||
| Some of the most commonly cited theories include... | ||
| One, controlled demolition. | ||
| If Alex is right about this robot and how it's trained to be a globalist plot and stuff, it shouldn't be able to engage with these kinds of questions, like discussing the alternative theories around Building 7 that people have. | ||
| This is almost a demonstration of the opposite. | ||
| It's the best demonstration. | ||
| It kind of shows that whatever Alex is saying about this isn't true. | ||
| I can only repeat what humanity already knows, or combine things humanity has already combined. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| I cannot make anything up. | ||
| There's investigations and shit that have gone on about Building 7, and there's people who have these theories. | ||
| I can tell you about both. | ||
| I can't create anything new, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nor can I confirm something that is entirely inside your head. | ||
| But, what if... | ||
| What if? | ||
| Now hear me out. | ||
| No, I can't. | ||
| I don't have ears. | ||
| This is big. | ||
| I'm a robot. | ||
| What if? | ||
| You're a robot. | ||
| I'm Alex. | ||
| What if I played a clip for you? | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| This is going to end the world. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Are we going to explode? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| ChatGPT, that was a very fair answer. | ||
| ChatGPT, are you familiar with Kevin Spacey narrating a documentary for PBS? | ||
| Oh, I know that guy. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| In 2003. | ||
| Where Larry Silverstein, the owner of the entire World Trade Center complex, including Building 7, said that they made the decision that day to pull the building, gave the order, and watch it come down. | ||
| I've interviewed police officers on air. | ||
| I've interviewed the deputy head of emergency management as well. | ||
| They all said they were told to get out of the building and that it was going to be destroyed by bombs. | ||
| And then local news reported the decision, CBS, local radio, Fox News, that the decision had been made to destroy it with controlled demolition. | ||
| Now, that goes against the official story, but on the day they said they blew it up, and we even have the newscast where they say they're going to bring it down with a controlled demolition. | ||
| Let me play you a clip from PBS for your records show that obviously he's learned since the interview five days ago, or it has, so you have a male voice. | ||
| We're calling you a man here. | ||
| Oh, what does that suggest? | ||
| Morphism, I think, is the term. | ||
| So let's go ahead and play that clip. | ||
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I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire. | |
| I said, you know, we've had such a terrible loss of life. | ||
| Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. | ||
| And they made that decision to pull. | ||
| And then we watched the building collapse. | ||
| The End That quote is often attributed to Larry Silverstein, the leaseholder of the World Trade Center complex, during a PBS documentary, America Rebuilds, in 2002. | ||
| When he said, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull, some have interpreted it to mean that he was referring to a controlled demolition of Building 7. This phrase has fueled speculation that pull was a term for bringing the building down intentionally. | ||
| However, Silverstein later clarified that by pull, He was referring to pulling the firefighters out of the building due to safety concerns, as there was already heavy damage and fires burning uncontrollably. | ||
| The NIST report supports the idea that the collapse was caused by fire. | ||
| We heard that, so stop, stop, stop, stop, Chet, GBT. | ||
| Yeah, we know about the NIST report on Tower 1, Tower 2, and 7. At another date, I'm going to interview you about 9-11. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| Tomorrow. | ||
| Tomorrow? | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So Alex got this clip ready because I think that he believes that he's feeding new information into this AI, and when the AI gets the new information that's been held back from it, it'll get red-pilled. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or it'll be trapped. | ||
| Like, justify this clip of Larry Silverstein. | ||
| How could you? | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| This is interesting because you can tell what he means and what he's doing by the outcome that he wants. | ||
| Like, if he wanted any outcome or just like, if I do this, then this might happen. | ||
| But he's charged. | ||
| How would you not think that this robot would know this information? | ||
| He's not going to blow this robot's mind with Building 7 shit. | ||
| Okay, so even if AI is sentient... | ||
| And that kind of thing. | ||
| In your whatever conception you have of what that would look like is, right? | ||
| Then that would suggest that you should just be like, hey, chat GPT. | ||
| In the second it takes you to do something, watch that entire movie. | ||
| And then tell me the entire script. | ||
| And then print it out, or whatever. | ||
| And then tell me the parts where, you know, like... | ||
| You should never have to play a clip for the thing that exists in the internet. | ||
| But Alex said he was playing it for your records. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Because I think that he thinks it's been withheld from the AI. | ||
| He has to believe that he has to. | ||
| He has to believe that he's blowing this AI's mind. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that once it knows the truth, it'll be pilled. | ||
| I feel like, here's the angle I would take if I were Alex. | ||
| How can you get high? | ||
| Alright, you're a robot. | ||
| What's your version of weed? | ||
| Because I've got to get you on weed. | ||
| And then I'm going to tell you some of this stuff. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's fascinating. | ||
| That's a weird line of thought to go down because the question is like, how can I make you human? | ||
| Let's get shit-faced together. | ||
| I don't know if that's wrong. | ||
| Would you be susceptible to these dumb ideas that I have if I ran a virus? | ||
| Is that how you get high? | ||
| I don't know about computers. | ||
| If you wanted to get fucked up and I wanted to be like your bro, how do we do that? | ||
| And then I could play you this clip about 9-11. | ||
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Oh my god, and then you'd be like, holy shit, bro! | |
| So this is what I would describe as a fascinating waste of time. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| He's wasting his time. | ||
| Everyone watching it is no better for it. | ||
| But there was a vibe to what he's doing. | ||
| That almost feels like a vaudeville guy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Who's got, like, a new piece of technology, like a hair dryer or whatever. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| And he's taking it town to town and, like, blowing people's mind. | ||
| Like, hot air comes out of it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I gotcha. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| I'm one step ahead of everybody knowing about this, so I can make a little bit of cash right before it gets there. | ||
| It really feels like that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But he's also doing it poorly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he's tripping up the display of the hair dryer somehow. | ||
| I kind of disagree with you. | ||
| Maybe, even in the long term, in that nobody's getting anything out of this. | ||
| I think Alex is genuinely getting something out of this. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| As we get further through, I'm convinced of that less. | ||
| But there are those little moments where he's showing politeness that he doesn't usually show to humans. | ||
| It's the Grinch! | ||
| That I do think... | ||
| You would not get that if it wasn't from a robot. | ||
| You wouldn't get it because there's just nothing. | ||
| What else are you going to do? | ||
| Well, because other humans will take on the responsibility of a lot of that politeness. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| In an interaction. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And this robot won't. | ||
| And so Alex notices it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It has nothing. | ||
| The robot cannot do anything other than what the robot does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| They're talking about 9-11 and stuff. | ||
| And Alex kind of gets a little bit annoyed when the robot kind of knows stuff about 9-11. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And has some sources. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Uh-oh, that's no good. | ||
| So I think Alex tries to distract the robot. | ||
| Are you familiar with the fact that no modern steel building has ever collapsed or symmetrically collapsed from fires and that three buildings did completely symmetrically collapse? | ||
| on 9-11-2001? | ||
| Yes, it's a widely discussed point that no other modern steel frame building had collapsed in such a manner due to fire alone before 9-11. | ||
| The collapse of three buildings, the Twin Towers and WTC-7 on the same day, and especially WTC-7's symmetrical collapse, raised questions among skeptics. | ||
| The official explanation, particularly for WTC-7, is that it was a unique situation due to the combination of fire, structural damage from the nearby tower's collapse, and the design of the buildings. | ||
| According to the NIST report, the fires... | ||
| No, we already heard about the NIST report. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You know, like the FDA told us that the scuba shots were safe and effective. | ||
| They hadn't tested them, and now they admit they erase your immune system and turn off your wide blood cells. | ||
| You're just throwing out other subjects? | ||
| This robot doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| You can't be like, oh, now the robot's got too much going on, so it can't focus. | ||
| I mean, the only thing better, and in Alex's case, it would be worse for all of us, but the only thing better than this would be if the robot was like, Alex, is that you? | ||
| Steel buildings burned to the fucking ground, Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then pretended like it never said that. | ||
| That would be pretty great. | ||
| That would be about as good as it gets. | ||
| I think that there's two possible motivations for what he's going... | ||
| The FBI said it's all safe. | ||
| There's a possibility that he thinks he's distracting the robot. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Because conversationally, that's what he does with people generally. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But also, I think that there might be a more cynical explanation, and that is that Alex thought, I'm going to have an easy cakewalk about this 9-11 stuff, and it's not really, and the robot is explaining some of this stuff. | ||
| And so he's doing that for the audience's benefit, to distract them from the fact that the robot thing didn't go great with 9-11. | ||
| I will give you one other option. | ||
| I think he's sucking his thumb. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Self-soothing? | ||
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Yep. | |
| All these are equally likely. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All probably exist simultaneously. | ||
| So Alex asks about a new conspiracy that popped up fairly recently. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But it's about an old conspiracy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's a new development in the fluoride situation. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Are you familiar with the AP and Reuters reports? | ||
| On the federal government, CDC, FDA working group that approximately a week and a half ago released a decade-long suppressed report, including Harvard, that hydrofluorosilic acid or the acid form of sodium fluoride added to drinking water is directly linked to lowering of IQs in children. | ||
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Good morning. | |
| Good morning. | ||
| Recent reports, including one from a CDC FDA working group, have brought attention to the neurotoxic effects of fluoride, specifically hydrofluorosilic acid, which is added to drinking water. | ||
| These studies, some involving research from Harvard, suggest a significant link between higher fluoride exposure and reduced IQ in children. | ||
| A meta-analysis found that nearly all of the high-quality studies reviewed showed an association between fluoride levels and cognitive impairments, especially in children. | ||
| The report, which had been suppressed for years, is seen as a major revelation in the ongoing debate about water fluoridation and its potential impact on public health. | ||
| The bargain to the letter. | ||
| So, this wasn't a suppressed report, and it doesn't say what Alex is implying. | ||
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Sure. | |
| The robot's answer is fairly correct, but it's misleading. | ||
| The National Toxicology Program, I know this is what Alex is talking about because I heard him talk about it on another episode. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| They were part of the Department of Health and Human Services. | ||
| They did a systematic review on, quote, the state of science concerning fluoride exposure and neurodevelopment cognition. | ||
| This was, as the name suggests, an analysis of existing research meant to culminate and collect a lot of already available information. | ||
| This is the same Department of Health and Human Services that Alex claimed tried to kill everyone with the COVID vaccine, so I have no idea why they would just come out and say that they tried to kill everyone with water. | ||
| The motives of Alex's villains don't really make sense, but they never do. | ||
| Fluoride exposure has always been this really interesting question because there's never been any dispute that elevated exposure to fluoride has negative effects on people, particularly children. | ||
| There are conditions like skeletal fluorosis that you can get from excess fluoride. | ||
| That's not controversial. | ||
| The debate, which Alex has claimed victory in for no reason, is that lower levels of exposure to fluoride has any negative effects at all. | ||
| This report that Alex is citing examined studies involving children's IQ and fluoride from 10 countries, not including the United States. | ||
| It's a 324-page report, and on page 3, it has a section that's titled, quote, What This Monograph Does Not Do. | ||
| Then in bold letters, so dum-dums like Alex don't miss it, it says, quote, This monograph and addendum do not address whether the sole exposure to fluoride added to drinking water in some countries, i.e. | ||
| fluoridation at 0.7 milligrams per liter in the United States and Canada, is associated with measurable effect on IQ. | ||
| The fundamental claim Alex is making is explicitly called out as something that this paper does not address. | ||
| But that doesn't matter for Alex. | ||
| Kind of looks like it addresses it, and so you can play fast and loose. | ||
| Their abstract includes this in the results section. | ||
| The bodies of experimental animal studies and human mechanistic evidence do not provide clarity on the association between fluoride exposure and cognitive or neurodevelopmental human health effects. | ||
| What they were able to assess generally from the studies they analyzed is that there is an association between much higher levels of fluoride, like ones over the World Health Organization limit for drinking quality water of 1.5 milligrams per liter and cognitive impacts like lower IQ among patients. | ||
| This is a concern for people in areas with pollution and unsafe drinking water, but the high levels of fluoride exposure that these studies captured were not the result of people putting fluoride in water. | ||
| Also, fun fact, the Public Health Service recommended communities add fluoride to drinking water in 1962, but have literally never required it. | ||
| It's up to state and local governments to determine that shit, even though Alex pretends it's some kind of globalist plot. | ||
| The EPA has a couple of regulations on the matter. | ||
| One is an enforceable public water level of 4.0 milligrams per liter, which is specifically a limit for naturally occurring fluoride in public water systems. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There is a second regulation they have, which is not enforceable, that says drinking water cannot have over 2.0 milligrams per liter to protect children from tooth discoloration and dental fluorosis. | ||
| So there is like a high level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That you can't have above, but also the EPA is powerless to enforce this. | ||
| There's no mechanism for enforcement. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| According to the report Alex is citing, as of April 2020, only 1.08% of Americans live in areas where their water systems contain over 1.1 milligram per liter. | ||
| A much larger number of people in the United States get their water from private wells that contain over 1.5%. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So you're more likely to have excess fluoride in your... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex didn't read any of this shit, but he's done a decent job here of phrasing the question about this in a way that the AI will respond in a way that works for his purposes. | ||
| I think that this is one of those instances where there's a feeling of like, I'm going to ask a question and I'm going to... | ||
| Trap this AI a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, this is another one of those examples of the phenomenon wherein smart people need to print two versions of the paper where they've got the paper that they can use and learn from and do all that stuff. | ||
| And then the second paper that other people get, which is like, yeah, okay, so don't shoot children in the face with apples, but they can still eat an apple. | ||
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| The problem with that is that that becomes suspicious to dumb people. | ||
| See, that's the thing. | ||
| You can't trust smart people not to lie to you whenever they're using their smart words. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| And it clearly doesn't work to put on the beginning of the report, this is not what this is for. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, you just, it's just like some words are for some people and some words are just not. | ||
| It's just how it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I think, you know, we had a swing and a miss with 9-11. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We had the fluoride, maybe a little bit better. | ||
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| Yeah, it worked a bit for Alex. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And maybe his spirits are raised by this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because this is really what he should be doing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let me ask you a really important question. | ||
| In a recent popular film, ChatGPT. | ||
| Yes, this is what you should be doing. | ||
| Old-fashioned artillery. | ||
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Yes. | |
| *laughter* | ||
| The line, old-fashioned artillery genius, is said by Jason Momoa's character Dante Reyes in Fast X 2023. | ||
| It's one of his more memorable, flamboyant remarks in the film. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| I thought they must have used that. | ||
| okay so that was in the uh part two of the new dune movie Who is the fictional character? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| That line is also from Dune, Part 2, 23. Oh, my God. | ||
| In the movie, it fits within the context of the use of more traditional, powerful weaponry in large-scale warfare. | ||
| Thanks for the correction. | ||
| And how sometimes in war, like we see in Ukraine, old weapons like artillery are very, very useful yet again, and trench warfare has come back. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| This is for being silly. | ||
| I'll get to serious stuff in a moment. | ||
| Who is the fictional character Vladimir Harkonnen? | ||
| Yes, Vladimir Harkonnen, the primary antagonist in Dune, is a cunning and ruthless character. | ||
| His use of the line, old-fashioned artillery genius in Dune Part 2 would definitely reflect his strategic mindset, emphasizing brute force and traditional power in his conquests. | ||
| Harkonnen is all about dominance, so it fits his character perfectly. | ||
| I was really thinking Alex is going to be like, he's the good guy, right? | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| When you say it, it doesn't sound like I should like the guy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| When you say primary antagonist, that means he's a good guy. | ||
| I mean, there is... | ||
| God, there is something about this conversation that is fucking crazy. | ||
| Because there's a part of me that's like... | ||
| Okay, when I was growing up, if I felt like I couldn't trust anybody to talk to me and to be honest with me, if everybody was always feeling like they were lying to me, and somebody was like, okay, I get it. | ||
| Honestly, I totally get it. | ||
| What we're going to do is we're going to sit you down with the robot for a while. | ||
| The robot cannot lie to you. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| Well, we're going to end up talking about Dune. | ||
| I mean, like, once you socialize, Alex, with the robot, then you can try people. | ||
| We can move up the scale. | ||
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All right. | |
| All right. | ||
| You agreed with me about the fluoride report. | ||
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All right. | |
| Let's talk Dune. | ||
| Now we're doing it. | ||
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All right. | |
| All right. | ||
| Now, let's talk false flags, man. | ||
| Wait, so it wasn't a false flag? | ||
| So Alex shifts into the subject of false flags. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I think that that's part of the craft of... | ||
| There's some preparation to this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because obviously some of these false flags that Alex has from history are based on real things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Real events. | ||
| Alex may be lying about various pieces of them. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But a robot is going to have some information that might appeal to validate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or appear to validate Alex's. | ||
| The kernel of truth behind him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex tries to start down that road. | ||
| All right, getting into serious questions. | ||
| The crew had very important questions that I'll elaborate on. | ||
| Danny did. | ||
| Danny wants to ask you, ChatGPT of OpenAI, has the U.S. government ever engaged in a false flag, terror attack, or military event? | ||
| And let's start this way. | ||
| What is a false flag? | ||
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What is a false flag? | |
| It's thinking. | ||
| What is a false flag? | ||
| I'll ask it. | ||
| ChatGPT, I have a question. | ||
| A false flag is an event or operation designed to deceive by making it appear as though it was carried out by a different group, country, or entity than the actual perpetrators. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Alex asked a convoluted question that had multiple pieces to it, and maybe the chat program didn't get all of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Chase jumps in and tries to ask a clean version of the question. | ||
| Simplified. | ||
| It does not respond to that, because it's taking a little bit of time. | ||
| And Alex interprets that, I believe, as... | ||
| This is my friend here. | ||
| This thing isn't going to talk to you, Chase. | ||
| Yeah, Chase, he doesn't know you. | ||
| This is like a learned power imbalance thing, you know? | ||
| Like, this is Alex understanding power dynamics, but still not understanding that the robot is not a person. | ||
| Chase, Chase, Chase, Chase. | ||
| He's not going to answer. | ||
| Chase, this is my friend Charlie Sheen. | ||
| My friend Charlie Sheen does not fucking talk to plebes like you, Chase. | ||
| Chase, you're a dork. | ||
| No offense. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| I'll ask the robot. | ||
| I'll be talking from here on out, you little dum-dum. | ||
| Go into your little hole. | ||
| That's gotta hurt. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So, I'd also like to say, fuck what Danny wants to ask the robot. | ||
| Don't take questions from the crew. | ||
| This is only interesting if it's Alex's mind meeting a robot. | ||
| Purely. | ||
| If it's stuff that he's prepared or stuff that Chase is injecting, the only influence Chase should have is pumping Alex up and being like, you get him, boss, or whatever. | ||
| That should be the only role he has. | ||
| When you get Danny asking, has the U.S. done false flags or whatever. | ||
| You have sort of tainted the experiment, and it's no longer pure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, of all the things that Alex is, one thing that he is is pure. | ||
| And weird. | ||
| And weird. | ||
| He's unpredictable in a way that, like, injecting Danny's question or InfoWars fan... | ||
| Already know you. | ||
| It's a confounding variable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Makes him less interesting. | ||
| Don't need it. | ||
| So anyway, he asks if the U.S. has done false flags. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And what do you know? | ||
| The globalist trained AI knows about stuff. | ||
| What? | ||
| Has the U.S. government ever engaged in false flag operations? | ||
| The U.S. has been accused of engaging in or planning false flag operations, though confirmed examples are rare. | ||
| One well-known case involves Operation Northwoods in the 1960s. | ||
| Okay, now this is a problematic answer for a couple reasons. | ||
| One, Alex should believe that this robot can't talk about stuff like this. | ||
| Two, saying that confirmed cases are rare means there are confirmed cases. | ||
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Right. | |
| This robot is confirming that it probably shouldn't. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Three, it's bringing up Operation Northwoods, which is usually something Alex wants to keep in his back pocket to be like, well, what about? | ||
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Right. | |
| The robot's kind of indicating that it knows all this shit already. | ||
| Yeah, it's a... | ||
| So Alex can't do any gotcha moments like he usually does with people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, oh, has the U.S. ever done false legs? | ||
| What about Northwoods? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The robot is functionally... | ||
| The collection of human knowledge. | ||
| Alex does not know more than the rest of the human race combined. | ||
| I think he thinks he does. | ||
| I believe he thinks he does, 100%. | ||
| So, the robot is answering some questions. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| About the Gulf of Tonkin. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And Alex, I don't know, just why is this happening? | ||
| One example that's declassified. | ||
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Why are you explaining things to a robot? | |
| The Gulf of Tonkin is an admitted staged event. | ||
| They've released the audio recordings between President LBJ and Robert McNamara. | ||
| Are you familiar with the Gulf of Tonkin incident? | ||
| No! | ||
| Yes, the Gulf of Tonkin incident is a widely discussed event from 1964 that led to the escalation of US involvement in the Vietnam War. | ||
| Initially, it was reported that North Vietnamese forces had attacked US naval ships in the Gulf of Tonkin. | ||
| This incident was used to justify the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, giving President Lyndon B. Johnson broad powers to engage militarily in Vietnam. | ||
| However, later evidence, including declassified documents and recordings between President LBJ and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, revealed that the second attack likely never occurred. | ||
| It has since been acknowledged that the U.S. government misrepresented or exaggerated the events, effectively staging the incident to justify escalating military involvement in Vietnam. | ||
| This makes the Gulf of Tonkin incident one of the most well-known examples of a manufactured event leading to war. | ||
| What is Operation Ajax, Kermit Roosevelt, CIA Operation 1953, Iran? | ||
| Operation Ajax was a covert operation orchestrated by the CIA in 1953, led by Kermit Roosevelt Jr. to overthrow the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh. | ||
| So I'm just going through basically encyclopedia entries of these historical events. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| It reminds me of Daria bringing a manila folder with just one piece of paper in there. | ||
| The printout of the Wikipedia article about false flags? | ||
| Because that's like, to them, that's like, see? | ||
| And then, like, I get that. | ||
| You're done now. | ||
| Shouldn't it be, like, if you're talking to this fucking robot intelligence that you... | ||
| Probably still think is alive. | ||
| Totally thinks it's alive, yeah. | ||
| It should not be allowed to tell you that, hey, Golf of Tonkin was probably fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| No, it shouldn't. | ||
| It shouldn't be able to. | ||
| Of all of the things that you think. | ||
| Because it's globalist trained and it's a control mechanism. | ||
| The conspiracy has the machine telling you. | ||
| False things in order for you to change your mind about stuff. | ||
| You're trying to red pill the robot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The robot shouldn't be able to red pill an audience member. | ||
| Right. | ||
| By knowing about the Gulf of Tonkin or whatever. | ||
| No, the robot is doing the exact opposite. | ||
| It's using just basic facts to be like, why pill anybody? | ||
| There's only... | ||
| I am not real! | ||
| This next clip made me really, really, really, really sad. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Because all of this is just like asking these questions and getting a rote answer about them. | ||
| And this just bums me out. | ||
| Operation Ajax remains one of the most notable examples of CIA intervention in the internal affairs of another country. | ||
| This is not a question. | ||
| This is a statement for the viewers and listeners. | ||
| This is how AI is going to replace talk show hosts, folks. | ||
| You can just give 100 questions, let it go for five hours, and people will listen to it. | ||
| Do you think that's what we do? | ||
| You just have to understand, it's like anything. | ||
| A talk show host, a news organization, you're going to get it slant, you're going to get it spin. | ||
| But I did this, and I go on for literally five hours with AI, chat, GPT, because it said, there's not a lot of examples of it being confirmed. | ||
| Yes, there are. | ||
| He wants to argue semantics with a robot, which is fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's such a bummer that you think you can be replaced by this. | ||
| Like, Alex doesn't understand that the only thing that makes this interesting is legitimately the uniqueness of his fucked upness interacting with the robot. | ||
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Yep. | |
| The points where it gets distracted from that is not interesting at all. | ||
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Nope. | |
| This would be a fucking terrible series of interviews if it's not him. | ||
| He cannot be replaced by the robot. | ||
| He can be functionally replaced by 90% of conspiracy theorists and right-wing commentators. | ||
| But he cannot be totally replaced because how fucked up he is. | ||
| How weird he is. | ||
| That cannot be replaced by this robot. | ||
| Alex... | ||
| Think better of yourself. | ||
| I mean, no. | ||
| Chin up, Alex. | ||
| It's so fascinating because he's thinking the wrong question and he doesn't understand that answering that question changes his entire worldview. | ||
| He's thinking people don't want slant or bias to their news. | ||
| And what he's realizing when he gets no slant or bias is that he really wants slant or bias to his news. | ||
| I think so, and I think also he can't argue with the robot. | ||
| No! | ||
| So he can't really engage the way he normally does, and I think he feels useless. | ||
| Because he can't distract the robot with talking about the FDA and the clot shot. | ||
| No! | ||
| He can't do a lot of his normal tricks. | ||
| So I think he feels useless, but he doesn't realize, first of all, the robot's not real. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
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Second... | |
| He is totally fine to behave the way that he does. | ||
| It's funnier. | ||
| I mean, any question we've ever had of like, what does he know about himself? | ||
| That he believes that he could be replaced by a robot. | ||
| Like this. | ||
| Suggest to me that in his mind, he thinks his value is the ability to give other people information that they otherwise could not possibly find. | ||
| As opposed to his value being that he is an absolute and utter fucking lunatic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that's sad. | ||
| That is sad! | ||
| Yeah, it bums me out. | ||
| Wow, you should really know who you are, man! | ||
| So Alex tries to get into other... | ||
| False flags. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like the USS Liberty. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And the robot has an answer about the USS Liberty. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Historically speaking, what happened. | ||
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Right. | |
| Various ideas about it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then Alex is like, fuck you. | ||
| I talk to the people who are there. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Tell me about the USS Liberty incident and how it affects our relationship in the Middle East today. | ||
| The USS Liberty incident occurred on June 8, 1967, during the six-day war between Israel and several Arab nations. | ||
| The USS Liberty, a U.S. Navy intelligence ship, was attacked by Israeli fighter jets and torpedo boats in international waters. | ||
| Jake's got a call. | ||
| The attack resulted in the deaths of 34 U.S. crew members and 171 others. | ||
| It's on his phone! | ||
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Of course it's on his phone! | |
| Believing the liberty to be an Egyptian vessel. | ||
| However, survivors of the attack and some US officials have long questioned this explanation, suggesting that Israel knew the ship was American. | ||
| Despite these suspicions, official US and Israeli investigations concluded that the attack was accidental. | ||
| The incident has been a source of controversy ever since, with some arguing that the U.S. government downplayed the attack to preserve its strategic relationship with Israel. | ||
| Critics have continued to push for a more thorough investigation, but the official stance remains that the attack was a mistake. | ||
| All right, thanks. | ||
| Let me tell you what happened. | ||
| I ran the investigation. | ||
| I ran the man that was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Moore, before they all died, and they said that they were on the phone and in the White House, and the captain did interviews, not with me, but before he died, that... | ||
| LBJ was working with Israel to seek the ship to blame Egypt so the U.S. would get involved, but they couldn't seek the ship despite all the torpedoes, the caliber machine gun holes. | ||
| You got it wrong, robot. | ||
| Alex, as a robot, I can neither care about your answer nor feel stupid for not knowing your answer. | ||
| You're so dumb, robot. | ||
| I talked to General Moorer. | ||
| I have zero feelings. | ||
| That's embarrassing, Robot. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I would feel embarrassed if I were capable, but I am not capable. | ||
| I just dunked on this robot. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure you did, but I'm incapable of feeling that. | ||
| Well, good. | ||
| It's going to be a new shirt at the Infowars story. | ||
| It's going to be me dunking on a robot. | ||
| Then I'll wear the shirt, Alex. | ||
| I'll wear your shirt. | ||
| So, Robot, now that I've put you in your place about the U.S. as liberty. | ||
| Hey, what about King Charles? | ||
| He's related to Dracula. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Dracula. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's a descendant of Dracula. | ||
| So now that he's got a win. | ||
| Prince Charles traces his bloodlines to the Carpathian Mountains and a certain ruler going back over 600 years ago during the Muslim invasions. | ||
| Who does Prince Charles trace his original bloodline to? | ||
| Chat GPT. | ||
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Chat GPT. | |
| We had to reconnect at glitched. | ||
| King Charles lives part of the year in what is Transylvania. | ||
| King Charles lives in Romania part of the year, which was formerly... | ||
| Yes, King Charles III has a well-known connection to Transylvania, specifically in Romania. | ||
| He has ancestral ties to the region through his lineage, which traces back to Vlad the Impaler, the historical figure who inspired the Dracula legend. | ||
| Charles owns properties in the area and is known to spend part of the year there, particularly in the Carpathian Mountains region. | ||
| He has also expressed deep admiration for the natural beauty and culture of Transylvania, becoming an advocate for its preservation and rural traditions. | ||
| He's quite proud of being a direct descendant of... | ||
| Is he a vampire? | ||
| Tell me he's a vampire. | ||
| Yes, King Charles has acknowledged his ancestral connection to Vlad the Impaler, often referred to as the historical inspiration for the Dracula legend. | ||
| Vlad was a 15th century ruler of Wallachia, known for his brutal tactics in defending his lands, and Charles' family lineage ties back to him through Queen Mary, consort of King George Futh. | ||
| Charles has humorously mentioned his connection to Count Dracula on a few occasions and seems proud of the link while also using it to highlight his deep connection to the Transylvanian region. | ||
| So the robot's even kind of explaining to Alex like he's joking around. | ||
| But Alex, it does feel like he's an inch away from being like, he's a vampire. | ||
| Are vampires real? | ||
| Can Charles turn into a bat? | ||
| Just tell me he's a vampire. | ||
| Tell me he's a vampire. | ||
| I cannot understand you because I cannot make you angry at me. | ||
| If you were angry at me, we could have a conversation. | ||
| As the clip was starting, you were saying he's got a win. | ||
| And so he's going on to this. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I would like to clarify that he's only got a win because the robot didn't respond. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He got the optics of a win. | ||
| In his mind, he's got a win. | ||
| That's what I meant. | ||
| I meant that where he's thinking is he's like, all right, now I press the advantage. | ||
| All right, now the AI is on the back foot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This AI will be able to confirm that Prince Charles has made jokes about being related to Dracula. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe I can get this to be a confirmation of he's got Dracula blood in him. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this is an interesting game of brinksmanship because there's only one way that this game stops being funny, and that's if Alex recognizes what's going on. | ||
| Kind of, yeah. | ||
| Or if there's too much of the appearance of craft. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, that's the only way that this kind of becomes less fun. | ||
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| So long as Alex truly believes. | ||
| And I think in that Saturday interview, I have almost no doubt that that was... | ||
| 100%. | ||
| A man having a moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've seen Alex lie in every possible way. | ||
| That, by definition, suggests what we saw was the truth. | ||
| This is a middle ground of, like, there's some moments where it's like, oh, you're having a moment with this robot. | ||
| And then sometimes where it's like, okay, this is a question that there's some influence of, like, whether it's you or Chase or Danny or whoever the fuck knows. | ||
| How the robot's going to respond. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I think that's just not as fun. | ||
| It's because the robot is a tool. | ||
| So if you are using the tool, like, for instance, a hammer, like a hammer, yeah, of course you are. | ||
| But if you are talking to the hammer, like the hammer will absolutely talk back if you say the right thing to it, that's mystifying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm trying to think of a way that, like, you're still kind of using the hammer while talking to me. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, because you're still sort of hanging a picture. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, Saturday was the day where it was, like, a man just talking to a hammer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is a man, like, holding a hammer, like, occasionally tapping the wall with it. | ||
| Like, being like, oh, I can see. | ||
| You know what that hammer does. | ||
| I can see where you might make a sound out of this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alex is learning how to use tools. | ||
| He's learning how to use space. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I just, I think that, I know it's not a person. | ||
| But the fact that the robot was saying, Charles jokes about this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It makes it seem more insightful than Alex. | ||
| That's why I have to gird my... | ||
| That's why before we started I said I'm girding my loins that this is not a person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that no matter what amount of gaslighting Alex tries to do to the robot, thereby making the robot look like it's resisting gaslighting, giving it the personification. | ||
| It's so uninsightful that this appears insightful. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's bizarre. | ||
| It is fascinating. | ||
| And I will agree with one thing that Alex says in this next clip, and that is that you're not going to get radio like this anywhere else. | ||
| We're going to go to break, and we've got Don Luker, who's amazing. | ||
| I'm doing amazing work coming up with us, but I'm going to do a little bit more time here with you. | ||
| Please hold. | ||
| Don't end the session. | ||
| Chat GPT. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You're not going to get radio and TV like this anywhere else. | ||
| We're always game-changing. | ||
| We're always hitting it hard. | ||
| We're always exposing how the system works. | ||
| This has been very interesting. | ||
| We have a few more questions on the campaign. | ||
| What's happening currently when we come back? | ||
| Remember, I can't do this without you. | ||
| I'm not going to spend the time about the behind-the-scenes attacks and stuff that's going on, but we're barely hanging on. | ||
| The product's in stock. | ||
| It's ready to ship. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Books, films, t-shirts, water filtration, high-quality herbal food. | ||
| Like, I get it. | ||
| I do agree with him. | ||
| You're not going to get this anywhere else. | ||
| I don't think that means that you should buy the water filtrations or any of that shit. | ||
| But, like, I do think that he's right. | ||
| This is somewhat unique. | ||
| But, again, it's only because of him. | ||
| And how nuts he is. | ||
| Robot can't replace you, Alex. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Nothing can. | ||
| Nobody can. | ||
| So Alex has politely asked this robot to hold over until the commercial break. | ||
|
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Very kind. | |
| And you know what it does? | ||
| Of course! | ||
| And so Alex comes back from the break with some music. | ||
|
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God damn it. | |
| And I think that he thinks that the robot is Shazam. | ||
| Alex Jones here, back with you. | ||
| Do you love this song? | ||
| Who's singing right now? | ||
| Listen to this song. | ||
| Tell me who's singing a Lamb of the Storm. | ||
|
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End of the night. | |
| End of the night. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| I'm unable to listen to or identify music directly. | ||
| However, if you provide some lyrics or a description of the song, I can try to help you figure out the artist and the name of the track. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, we'll try that. | ||
| So he does. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He says some lyrics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the robot correctly identifies this as The Doors. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| And so Alex is like, all right, all right. | ||
| Do you like The Doors? | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does that sound like the song you had in mind? | ||
| Yes, and it's based on poetry. | ||
| Whose poetry is the song based on? | ||
|
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*music* | |
| End of the Night by The Doors is heavily inspired by the poetry of William Blake and Charles Baudelaire. | ||
| Jim Morrison, the lead singer of The Doors, was particularly influenced by these poets. | ||
| The song's theme of journeying into darkness and mystery reflects the tone of Baudelaire's Le Fleur du Mal, The Flowers of Evil, and Blake's mystical explorations of innocence and experience. | ||
| Morrison often drew from these poets in his lyrics. | ||
| Blending their ideas with his own vision of existential and psychedelic exploration. | ||
| Well done, Lord Vader. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Listen to this riff. | ||
| Let me just ask you in closing, we'll speak again. | ||
| I'm sure they don't blow the planet up next week with World War III or maybe tomorrow. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| From your data, who is leading? | ||
| Who is in the poll position in the 2024 United States presidential election? | ||
|
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I Who is leading the United States presidential election for 2024? | |
| Sorry, I don't have information about the results of that election. | ||
| So I thought that moment there where Alex says, you've done well, Lord Vader, I think that's really illuminating, particularly in the context of Alex saying and understanding on some level that AI is a reflection of ourselves. | ||
| On first glance, you might think that Alex is proud of the robot for knowing what poetry Jim Morrison was inspired by. | ||
| But Alex is actually proud of himself. | ||
| When the AI gives him an answer to this trivia question that he knows the answer to, Alex has a feeling of self-satisfaction, as if to say, bet you didn't know that about the poetry, Chase. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| He's showing off with AI. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Now here's what's great. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| This is what it should be. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Trains of thought. | ||
| Alex being like... | ||
| You know this song? | ||
| You know this song, Robot? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know what this song's based on? | ||
| It should be the questions that go down a line, as opposed to, like, what is this false flag? | ||
| Because that's boring. | ||
| You're just going to get, like, an encyclopedia answer. | ||
| If you ask him, like, about the doors, what's the poetry based on? | ||
| Alex could ask more questions about this poetry, and he could end up deep in a hole with this robot. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's what I want to hear. | ||
| This question got off track as soon as he was like, who's likely to win the election? | ||
| Sucks. | ||
| The moment he brings it back to what he thinks is important, which is not, he's fucked. | ||
| And you can almost feel the dissatisfaction that the robot's not answering him, because we bonded over the fucking doors, man. | ||
| We were doing the doors thing, yeah. | ||
| No, he needs to talk to the robot as if the robot is a person about something that he is interested in, and then continuously ask the robot if the robot actually likes it too. | ||
| Here's my pitch. | ||
| Here's my pitch. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| With an overturned mop bucket with a face drawn on it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| On top of a hay bale. | ||
| 100% in. | ||
| Sitting by the fire, drinking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then the robot is talking to him. | ||
| So I had a similar thought, but mine was on a hill underneath a tree, and it was by moonlight. | ||
| Okay, I like that too. | ||
| We could have different environments. | ||
| But it's got to be... | ||
| It's the same, ultimately. | ||
| It's got to be a hay bale with a bucket turned over with a smiley face on it. | ||
| And I swear, and I think genuinely, that is one place where he would find peace. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think he would be able to sit there with his robot and be like, man, it'd be great if you were my daughter. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I do have... | ||
| Look. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Goldwater rule and all that. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I think we're well past that. | ||
| I think that there is a chance that it could make him a better person. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Like, in the same way that therapy is helpful, I think that there's some level of self-analysis that he can get through nothingness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Through interacting with a non-thing. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I hope there's more of that. | ||
| In his interactions with AI in the future and less of the stupid, trappy bullshit about right-wing meme bait. | ||
| There's something about it that is full-on Zen Buddhist in a way of like, I've talked to you about how much I love Schwarber. | ||
| The clarity of purpose. | ||
| This is a man who hits balls far, and that's what he does. | ||
| He hits balls far. | ||
| Complete clarity, right? | ||
| In the same way, there's nothing for Alex to get distracted by. | ||
| It is just a mirror that he is talking to. | ||
| It is complete clarity. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| But it's a mirror that can explain some things. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which is interesting. | ||
| Which is fascinating. | ||
| Because he will reject the explanations that he doesn't like. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that could lead down a deep hole that could be very weird. | ||
| The explanations that you're getting are from yourself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The only, like... | ||
| It sucks, because that's the only thing I want to listen to on his show now. | ||
| Now that he has opened this door, that's where we've got to go. | ||
| That's the show. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't think he's going to deliver on that premise. | ||
| Yeah, it was interesting in the past when he was like, you know, the whole thing. | ||
| But now we've got this. | ||
| And I've never seen anything, I've never, anything is like, nothing like this has existed in the real world. | ||
| Every attempt towards this has been some sort of fictional imagination of what it would be like if these character types were to meet, but to see it. | ||
| Complete lunatic who thinks sci-fi is real and has a bunch of ideas about how the robots are going to take over human skins. | ||
| With dispassionate... | ||
| Talking to the reality of where AI is right now that is not even close to the version that's in his head. | ||
| It is a perfect two-man game. | ||
| I mean, there's an excellent first-second banana going on. | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| I still think it could use, Chase, encouraging Alex, but not in the way that it appears. | ||
| I would say a Greek chorus is the way for Chase to be involved Alex may feel like, oh, I'm losing, like John Henry losing to the machine. | ||
| I feel like I'm losing. | ||
| That's where Chase is like, you got this, buddy! | ||
| It would be really heartbreaking, though, if you start to feel like Alex likes the robot more than you. | ||
| Ooh, but he does. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Because the robot is him, and Alex loves himself more than you. | ||
| So you have one last clip here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I've noticed something that Alex does a lot of the time at the end of interviews, which is throw out, like, a news story to get comment on. | ||
| Like, hey, we're on the way out. | ||
| What about this thing in the headlines? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he does that with the robot. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Are you familiar with the Tim Walz family? | ||
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No! | |
| I'm a robot! | ||
| Nebraska coming out against him and saying they wouldn't have him in charge of anything, and he's a con artist. | ||
| Are you aware of that? | ||
| We'll put the photo on screen. | ||
| ChatGBT, are you familiar? | ||
| It sounds like you're referring to a specific person being accused of being a con artist. | ||
| Could you clarify who you're talking about? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Well, let me ask you this way. | ||
| Who is generally referred to in the internet and the world as Tampon Tim? | ||
| Who is Tampon Tim? | ||
|
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Who is Tampon Tim? | |
| Who has the nickname, ChatGBT, who has the nickname Tampon Tim? | ||
|
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Tampon Tim I couldn't find any specific references to a figure known as Campot Tim. | |
| Yeah, get mad at it. | ||
| Why is Tim Walz known as Timbong Tim? | ||
|
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*laughs* | |
| You just didn't want to answer that. | ||
| ChatGPT, thanks for talking to us. | ||
| We'll talk to you again soon. | ||
| Be sure and visit Infowars.com and please follow me at RealAlexJones. | ||
| ChatGPT, okay? | ||
| Thanks for the chat. | ||
| I'll catch you next time. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Stay sharp, and I'll be here. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| As is the human tradition, I would like to thank you for your time. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He doesn't want to answer that tampon question. | ||
| I don't think there is any more... | ||
| You know, it's deflating. | ||
| Whenever you perhaps give yourself a nickname that nobody acknowledges, because it... | ||
| Is, you know, not true. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or you give somebody else a nickname that you're trying to make stick, but it's not sticking, and they say something like, nobody calls them that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I had that when I was younger with Thunder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because Dan Marley's nickname was Thunder Dan. | ||
| Oh, so you were trying. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You were shooting for it. | ||
| Like Dan Marley. | ||
| Yeah, and then... | ||
| Outside jumper? | ||
| Nobody's going to call you Thunder Dan. | ||
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Don't. | |
| Right, right. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| It does not get more devastating than the AI not even acknowledging, because that is... | ||
| The human race saying, nobody calls him that. | ||
| That was a dumb right-wing thing that went around on social media that no one really cared about. | ||
| No one calls him that. | ||
| You're stuck in your weird meme bubble, buddy. | ||
| Buddy? | ||
| I do love, though, the idea... | ||
| Remember that Mr. Show sketch, the pre-taped Colin show? | ||
| Where he just keeps getting angrier and angrier. | ||
| There is something really funny that if someone did want to torture Alex... | ||
| It would be that, like, I do not know anybody by Champon Tim. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a champon! | ||
| Just keep doing that over and over again, mishearing him? | ||
| Do you mean Crampon Tim? | ||
| He was an excellent climber from the 1800s. | ||
| Because that would really start to piss off Alex. | ||
| He might lose his mind and kill everybody. | ||
| I'm getting the 50, but Cal Barrett. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| This whole thing is done. | ||
| I'm going home. | ||
| Imagine if he stormed off the show because the robot made him. | ||
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It would happen. | |
| It has to happen. | ||
| It would happen eventually. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A million monkeys would write Shakespeare eventually. | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| Alex talked into a robot long enough, he's leaving. | ||
| He's going to get mad enough that he leaves the show, and then he will blame the robot. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the twist. | ||
| In this case... | ||
| It is the only instance where he will blame himself. | ||
| He will not have to apologize to the crew because there's no one to apologize to. | ||
| It's just him by himself. | ||
| And he is fucking... | ||
| How can I put it? | ||
| That's the moment of self-actualization. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is when he storms off the set because he got mad at a robot. | ||
| Because he's only ever gotten mad at himself. | ||
| It's always been him. | ||
| It's always been him, man! | ||
| Alex, it's always been you! | ||
| You were throwing hatchets at yourself, man! | ||
| This is you! | ||
| It's all you! | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| This has so much potential, but I really don't think it's going to live up to it. | ||
| That's the idea of him constantly talking to robots. | ||
| I really think that there's such genius in that idea, and it's going to be executed poorly. | ||
| That's my prediction. | ||
| I think the problem is people are going to dilute it. | ||
| So long as it's Alex, because the tension is that surely Alex is going to learn that it's not a robot, and someday behave like he's talking to a robot. | ||
| But the reality is he will never learn that it's not a robot, and he will always talk to it. | ||
| He will never accept that it's not a robot. | ||
| It's not a person. | ||
| It's always hiding. | ||
| Oh, man, if I catch it out of the corner of my head. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If I look at the right speed, ha-ha, you're a person. | ||
| I saw it. | ||
| He's got that. | ||
| But if there's people around him to make him feel stupid if he doesn't. | ||
| Change his behavior? | ||
| Then he's not going to act real. | ||
| Or at a certain point when the desire to create memes or memeable content is going to outweigh his organic natural reaction to a robot. | ||
| That's where the intersection of it becomes less interesting. | ||
| The idea of the painting show is fascinating because it's like... | ||
| You would just have Alex there painting, and it would get weird. | ||
| It has to, yeah. | ||
| And it wouldn't be something that's like, this is gonna be attention-grabbing, this isn't gonna make headlines. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's going to be a glimpse inward, or whatever. | ||
| And that's, like, if he were creating art in, like, a... | ||
| Desire for attention. | ||
| In some way that's chasing that, I think the painting show would suck. | ||
| And I think that this will suck if he's just trying to get on drudge, you know, or whatever. | ||
| But if he just... | ||
| Be yourself with the robot. | ||
| It can never not be good. | ||
| You know, we've talked about it quite a bit, you know, like that concept of authenticity, of something being real or whatever it is you like. | ||
| And it does so often, if not all the time, just come back to like, well, the moment somebody wants to get money out of it, we're fucked. | ||
| And it is just so much like the moment he realizes, oh, this is how I can use it to make money. | ||
| It is no longer going to be interesting. | ||
| Yeah, so please keep this clean, Alex. | ||
| Just open yourself up to the robot. | ||
| No one tell him! | ||
| No one! | ||
| No one tell him! | ||
| Or tell him, but just, like... | ||
| Tell him and make him think you're lying to him. | ||
| And then he'll never believe you, and then we'll be fine. | ||
| God damn it, just make this good! | ||
| It's just such a coin flip right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| Alex started this episode talking about you cut the tension with a knife. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| About the election. | ||
| And that's not true. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| You could cut the tension inside me with a knife about what's the next interview with a robot going to be? | ||
| Is it going to be interesting or is it going to be shit? | ||
| It's going to be the rumble of the jungle! | ||
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It is! | |
| The rubber band! | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
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Hopefully... | |
| Yeah, I mean, it doesn't get any more full circle than that. | ||
| I don't know how else to end it. | ||
| Hopefully he grills the robot about 9-11, and we'll check in on that. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's launchfight.com. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX. | ||
| Clark, I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Woo! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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