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Aug. 23, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:17:20
#957: August 21, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to hear Alex's response to the Obama's speaking at night two of the DNC, and find him hanging out with his new arms-dealer buddy.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
15:10
d
dan friesen
32:26
j
jordan holmes
19:56
Appearances
r
roger stone
02:06
v
viktor bout
01:13
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b
barack obama
00:02
p
pastor david manning
00:02
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stephen colbert
00:58
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steve quayle
00:02
Callers
rich in new jersey
00:18
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
roger stone
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight.
unidentified
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
roger stone
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Dan.
Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan!
jordan holmes
Jordan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's up?
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
So my bright spot today was going to be the challenge.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But you've now watched it.
jordan holmes
I've ruined your day, your life.
dan friesen
You cannot do our challenge recap until Monday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When we will discuss in depth the alliances and betrayals.
jordan holmes
I'm so excited.
dan friesen
But so instead, I've got to say it's little John at the DNC.
jordan holmes
That was great.
That was undeniably great.
dan friesen
It's a celebrity appearance that's done, so it was just done great.
So for anybody who wasn't watching when they did the roll call of delegates from states, they had music for everyone.
But a lot of the states were just like some representative from there or whatever who was saying.
When they went to New York, Kathy Hochul spoke, but Spike Lee was standing there.
So there were some celebrity pop-ins.
But for Georgia, when they called for the roll call of the delegates, now first, they start playing Welcome to Atlanta.
So it's like, ooh, is Ludacris going to come out?
unidentified
Is Jermaine Dupree going to come out?
dan friesen
And then Lil Jon comes out and casts the vote of, yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah!
That was just...
dan friesen
And then he does a little bitty concert.
jordan holmes
He did a little bit!
He did a little bit of the song!
And he does it.
dan friesen
Turned down for what?
jordan holmes
He does some showmanship, too.
He's going around.
He's in people's faces.
He's doing the thing, man.
dan friesen
And then he did VP Harris and Tim Walz.
unidentified
To sweat, drop down my balls.
dan friesen
To not say the second line.
But it just, like, it worked.
It worked.
jordan holmes
It did.
dan friesen
As a celebrity appearance, it's, like, it's not desperate.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
It's at a...
Perfect slot.
Little John has to have a sense of humor about himself.
If he allowed to pitch this to him and he's like, this is a great idea.
jordan holmes
He was like, this is the best idea I've ever fucking heard.
dan friesen
We're not doing musical representatives coming out, celebrities for each state.
No, just this.
Just me?
jordan holmes
Hell yes.
Of course it should be me.
That is what Little John thought.
Of course it should be me.
dan friesen
A good sense of humor all around, I think.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Rare, fun moment.
jordan holmes
It was just genuine, pure fun.
No one fucked it up.
No one was like, oh, maybe it should be.
Nope.
It was just Lil Jon being Lil Jon.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
It was great.
dan friesen
And Kid Rock, when he was at the RNC.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
First of all, Kid Rock.
Is a little bit sadder as, you know, a legacy.
jordan holmes
For a lot of reasons.
dan friesen
But then also, like, he was introduced, he was doing a set where then he introduced Dana White, who was then going to introduce Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Kid Rock clearly felt bad that he wasn't getting to introduce Trump.
There was an entitlement that came through his performance, and that was absent from Lil Jon.
jordan holmes
No!
He was happy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He was just happy.
dan friesen
I think that makes a difference.
jordan holmes
It does.
It does.
dan friesen
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, I don't know if you'll recall, but not too long ago, we were fostering some puppies.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
I remember.
jordan holmes
Hanging out.
One of said puppies, named Sunny.
She has a liver problem.
dan friesen
Sonny, with a U or an O?
jordan holmes
I believe with an O. Okay.
She had a liver problem.
We had to do her own special diet.
We had to do that whole thing.
Today, she went in for liver surgery.
She's okay!
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
She made it through.
Recovering.
Everything is going well.
Sonny is going to be my dog.
Because whenever we were fostering her, I had to sleep out on the couch.
Because if she wasn't in the same room as me when she was trying to sleep, she would wail.
She was just whining and wail.
All the other dogs, no problem.
dan friesen
So you are going to take Sunny in?
jordan holmes
I'm going to take her whether anybody likes it or not.
But I can't take care of her liver disease issue.
So I've got to wait.
dan friesen
I thought they got the surgery.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, but now she's got to recover.
I mean, I'm not going to...
What was the Stephen King movie with Kathy Bates?
I'm not going to break her knee so she can't escape.
That's all I'm saying.
dan friesen
Did you give part of your liver?
jordan holmes
If I could, I would.
dan friesen
Yeah, I believe you.
jordan holmes
Actually, that's actually a concerning thing to ask me and for me to say because I'm...
Yeah, yeah, that's trouble.
dan friesen
I didn't know that we'd gotten to that point, but I guess why wouldn't we have gotten to that point where you could do a liver transplant in a dog?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It makes sense.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
I think of all the things that we...
dan friesen
Not human to dog.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
We haven't gotten to that point.
jordan holmes
We're not even a gorilla to human yet.
Right, right, right.
No, I think as far as being like a pure...
Your distillation of the anti-Infowars energy, loving and wanting dogs to survive is pretty much as good as it gets.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is the antithesis of Alex.
Well, no, that's not fair.
Well, he just...
jordan holmes
Eh.
dan friesen
It's complicated.
jordan holmes
We don't hear good news.
dan friesen
Never.
jordan holmes
This is good news.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what we're listening for.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we're going to be doing bad news episode about Alex's coverage of the DNC.
We're going to be talking about Wednesday, the 21st.
And I think that, you know, the night before, Michelle Obama had spoke.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Barack Obama had spoke.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I thought, like, well, this is where Alex is going to need to come on air and say, hey, look.
I know that we've been saying for years Michelle Obama is going to usurp the nomination at the convention.
There's going to be just a hostile takeover.
I was wrong.
She actually said really nice things about Kamala Harris and Tim Walsh.
jordan holmes
It does not feel like that is the direction he'll go, but I'm willing to accept a curveball is available.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I thought I'd check in and really just prepare myself for the apology.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's what we'll be going over today.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
I think it's going to be great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
First, before we get to that, though, let's say hello to some new walks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Ursa, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll burn your stone house to the fucking ground, Eddie.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, Steve from Scotland.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
That dude probably almost killed you.
jordan holmes
I believe his message included next time you come here, slish slash.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're done.
jordan holmes
Taking a blood bath.
dan friesen
And my son Kellen is a loser little titty baby, but I love him nonetheless.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
That was made clear that it was an in-joke and everybody would be fine.
Otherwise, I was not going to...
dan friesen
I would assume so.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Christine the Tomato Queen.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone, someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would assume that someone isn't going to take to wonk names to bully their own child.
jordan holmes
I never know.
It's a dangerous and terrifying power being somebody who's willing to read what anybody sends to you.
dan friesen
That is true.
That is true.
But, yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm always assuming that people have the best intentions in mind.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
So, we start off here with someone who I question their intentions and have for the better part of, I don't know, his public life.
jordan holmes
Yep.
alex jones
RFK signaling again this morning on Fox.
His VP that he is going to be dropping out and endorsing Trump.
I told you yesterday that I talked to multiple sources.
In the campaign, and he is scheduled to make the announcement Friday.
Now, I saw him this morning saying that his schedule's all messed up because they're kind of taking off the ballot everywhere, and he's been crisscrossing the nation, but reportedly, because they've taken him off the ballot in the battle around states the Democrats have, he's been checkmated, so the best thing he can do now is throw his support on Trump.
So he might do it Saturday, he might do it next Monday, but they've been told, be ready.
For him to get back to Los Angeles Friday sometime and to make the announcement.
And I know the details of the announcement because that's just basically how I've learned of it.
But I'm not going to give those out.
I'm going to leave that for them.
They may change it, but you will see.
Unless he changes his mind, I don't make stuff up.
dan friesen
Okay.
What earth-shattering news?
RFK isn't taking this seriously.
jordan holmes
I mean, I...
You can't leave...
unidentified
It was a dead bear cub in Central Park.
dan friesen
It was a joke.
jordan holmes
No!
That's not a thing you can say.
dan friesen
It was a joke.
jordan holmes
That is not a thing you can say.
dan friesen
It was funny.
jordan holmes
No, it's funny.
No, it's still not funny.
dan friesen
You know what, though?
I get that mental process.
I don't get following through with it to the point of putting a bear in Central Park, but I get that.
Wouldn't it be funny if someone walked in and just saw this?
jordan holmes
I get it.
I get that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
We appreciate the comedy of the absurd.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Follow through is strange here, though.
jordan holmes
Watched Chris Gethard's show for years.
Studied it.
I appreciate the comedy of the absurd, but you can't...
Chris Gether won't become president.
You can't become president if you do that.
dan friesen
Somebody in a dumpster.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Good absurd.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
Bayer in Central Park.
jordan holmes
Not okay.
Not okay.
dan friesen
Strange.
jordan holmes
You should be like, wait, who's going to be in that dumpster?
Yeah.
dan friesen
So RFK is like, you know, he's going to drop out and he's going to give his support to Trump.
And I don't know.
I think that this is probably...
This is in the realm of certainly very believable.
I think that Alex may have actually even had some inside information.
I wouldn't be surprised if he had sources on this one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, this one does make sense for Alex to be tertiarily connected enough to have like, oh yeah, somebody did tell you.
dan friesen
Word on the street is he's going to drop out on Friday and that's the plan.
I kind of believe him that he knew or would know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, RFK should be hooked into the crazy grapevine.
And Alex is on the crazy grapevine.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Especially considering the people like Del Bigtree and these, like, adjacent anti-vax fucks.
stephen colbert
Yeah.
dan friesen
And shit.
Like, there's a lot of overlap with Alex's world.
So he might actually know.
You know, he bluffs a lot and he has a lot of bullshit sources.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is one where I hear it and I'm like, yeah, maybe you did.
jordan holmes
Is Ross Perot still alive?
dan friesen
Atros?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You think we could get another go-around with him?
dan friesen
I think he's dead.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit.
He had a sword, man.
dan friesen
No, that was Booker T. Oh, that's right.
So, Alex, he never lies like Spider-Man.
alex jones
Tomorrow's news today.
We don't want to get it wrong.
We don't want to be hated and mistrusted like the corporate media.
We want to get it right because we all live together on this planet.
I don't have anybody telling me what to do.
I make the decisions around here.
Alex Jones.
The buck stops here.
I'm in charge.
I'm in command.
And that's not like bragging, I'm in command.
No, it's a very dangerous situation with great power and great responsibility, as Spider-Man likes to say.
And boy, have I learned just how true that is.
So I'm a lot more careful than I was 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago.
But I never, never consciously tried to lie to you, ever.
Our currency is the truth.
And our existence is here to serve God.
dan friesen
If your currency is the truth, you're broke.
jordan holmes
97,000.
You intentionally lied about that.
dan friesen
Sure.
But I like the, first of all, Spider-Man doesn't like to say that.
That's something that was said to him, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, he actually sometimes, often in fact, resents that being almost a curse given to him by Uncle Ben.
Perhaps if he wasn't...
Burdened with that final words.
dan friesen
Just enjoy his great power.
jordan holmes
Do all kinds of shit.
But now he's got to deal with all this Uncle Ben.
He's a ghost!
You're not alive!
dan friesen
It's a struggle, not something that Spider-Man preached all the time.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Also, when Alex says, like, oh, maybe I'm more careful than I was 20 years ago, this is a subtle reference to how he was drunk on air when he slandered Sandy Hook families.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
A little more careful these days.
jordan holmes
You would hope.
dan friesen
So, um, I just, I was listening to this, and I'm like, okay, I want to hear Alex's take on the DNC.
We had a lot of speeches that night.
I watched the, uh, the coverage.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Not the coverage.
I watched the actual speech.
jordan holmes
You did watch the thing.
unidentified
Um, and, uh, I was just like, come on, give me something.
dan friesen
Give me something.
And all I'm getting is, like, a dorky voice.
alex jones
It's Wednesday, August 21st, 2024.
I am your battle-hardened host at the center of the Infowar.
And you are at the center of the Infowar when you tune in and you research and you share the links.
You aren't just part of the fight.
You are literally the eyes, the ears, the brain, the soul, the heart, the guts, the blood, the bones, the sinew and the will of the people for a pro-human destiny and future.
We are living in an epic time, in an epic moment.
A great time of change is upon us.
Evil.
Intends while the political, economic, spiritual system is malleable to reform the planet in their God's image.
We intend to have God work through us to form it in His image.
This is the eternal battle that we are living through in all the spectacular reality around us.
All right.
Roger Stone's joining us at the bottom of the hour with a lot of breaking news and analysis and his response to the...
Last two nights of the DNC.
dan friesen
Okay, so I guess we'll get Roger Stone's analysis of the DNC.
That's great.
But this is just, it's such a dorky movie trailer.
Like, they are trying to make, while the world is malleable, trying to form it in their God's image.
Yeah.
I feel like if I were listening to this, I would resent it.
jordan holmes
It's, uh, I don't know.
Like, what would I say?
It's not movie enough, but it's two movie.
You know?
He's in the wrong zone.
It's uncanny.
If he was, like, going over the top movie, you'd be like, oh, he's doing a bit.
But if he wasn't doing movie at all, you'd be like, maybe I should listen to him.
But what he is doing sucks.
dan friesen
Instead, he has the most dramatic music possible playing and talking about reshaping the image of the world while it's malleable.
jordan holmes
You know what it is?
It's a cutscene from a video game.
It's not a movie.
It's not something that's produced like, this is what we're supposed to be doing.
It's like, oh, this is thrown off in the video game.
dan friesen
And it's low budget.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Colbert.
I had some things to say about RFK.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is not super thrilled about that.
So he plays a little bit of Colbert here.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
They took him off the ballot in all the battleground states.
Totally legal.
Took him off in his home state, New York.
And then Colbert and the rest of the media made fun of him and celebrated it and wouldn't give him Secret Service protection when they murdered his father and his uncle.
dan friesen
Was that Colbert?
alex jones
So this is, again, the arrogance of the deep state, the Democrats, to not even be nice to him.
At least on the surface, they just can't help themselves.
So here's Colbert.
stephen colbert
Junior here got some bad news yesterday when a New York Supreme Court judge ruled that he is disqualified from the New York ballot over falsifying his residence.
Prosecutors, you're right.
Prosecutors proved he actually lives in Los Angeles thanks to a federal statement of candidacy with the California address and a social media video in which Kennedy talks about training ravens at his Los Angeles home.
Dole foiled again!
And he would have gotten away with it, too, if he wasn't the weirdest person on the planet.
RFK Jr. claims this is just a misunderstanding.
Because he has considered New York his home since childhood and intended to return.
That doesn't make it better.
Sounds like a surgeon saying, you're in good hands, Mr. Johnson.
I intended to finish medical school.
Now let's get stabbing.
Anyway, this news sucks for him, but it is great for me.
alex jones
That's basically all twisted lies that make it look terrible.
Everybody's looked into it.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He has a home in Los Angeles.
He has a home in Massachusetts.
And he has a home in New York.
And it has been his designated home for most of his life.
But that doesn't matter.
You can be on the ballot, and he qualified to be on the ballot, no matter where he lived.
But because he has lawyers...
jordan holmes
He's going to drop out.
alex jones
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Why are we doing this?
alex jones
If they can sit there and find one little thing they claim is wrong, then the Democrats can do whatever they want and commit massive crimes.
So, this is a big deal.
I talked to Roger, who's the real political expert this morning.
He's coming on with us in a little while.
And he agreed that this will probably add six, seven points, bare minimum, to Trump.
And they've got a margin of fraud of six to twelve points for the illegals and dead people voting in the databases.
And so...
And we know Trump's already ahead, so this just gave him even more of a lead that they've got to try to steal.
dan friesen
All those numbers are entirely made up.
They mean nothing.
So this is pretty tame stuff from Colbert, and Alex is just wrong.
He's arguing an incorrect point by playing someone who's funnier than him, which is a disaster.
It's somewhat likely that most of the support that RFK has will go to Trump.
But the way this is going to shake out is not guaranteed.
For example, many of the people who were RFK voters were people who would vote for Trump but have become super radicalized by the anti-vax ideology and view Trump as a vaccine pusher.
With RFK out of the race, those people might go to Trump or they might not vote.
If you're a single issue voter on vaccines, Trump and Harris are both bad choices.
jordan holmes
And if you think vaccines killed 50 million people or whatever, you should be a single-issue voter!
dan friesen
It seems like, yeah, you should.
There's a lot of protest-type votes caught up in RFK's numbers, and those might not just go to Trump if he backs out.
Plus, RFK carries a lot of liabilities with him.
If Trump actually makes him some part of the administration, he's giving the Democrats a target-rich environment for attack ads.
There's almost no position he could offer RFK that wouldn't be mockable, that he seems like a legitimate...
You can't leave a dead bear cub in Central Park.
jordan holmes
I don't understand how that just doesn't...
Everybody just stops talking about him.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, later in this episode, they're spitballing all kinds of ideas.
Like, he could be the head of the FDA.
No, he couldn't.
jordan holmes
No, he absolutely could not.
dan friesen
What?
Maybe he could be Attorney General.
No!
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
His dad shouldn't have been Attorney General!
That was a problem then!
dan friesen
If you're the Trump campaign, RFK is currently a problem either way things go.
If he stays in the race, he might pull potential votes his way, but if he leaves the race, he may become your problem, and you might not pick up as many votes as you hope to along the way.
If there is a negotiation of, like, I'll drop out if you give me some kind of a role in your administration, that could...
Be a deal you might not want to take.
jordan holmes
I find it hard to believe that somebody who has been openly saying they're going to vote for RFK is actually interested in voting all that much in the first place.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a statement.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At this point.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It seems like a...
It seems like a person saying, how can I make things worse than Trump?
And that's a person that's probably not like, oh, the ballot's going to be the way to do it.
dan friesen
I'm sure that this isn't borne out by all kinds of polling and statistics and stuff like that, but it feels like...
The RFK vote is broken down into people who are lying and were going to vote for Trump.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And people who aren't going to vote for Trump would vote for RFK.
jordan holmes
And probably wouldn't vote for anybody anyways.
dan friesen
Yeah, but like a statement protest type of vote.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so, I don't know.
Him dropping out and endorsing Trump really feels like a zero to me.
jordan holmes
Doesn't feel like it'll do anything.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But oh well.
Enjoy.
Have fun.
So, Alex declared war on RFK.
Back when it looked like he was going to run.
jordan holmes
That's right, I remember that.
dan friesen
Yeah, but now he's cool with them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right, I remember that now from that clip just now.
dan friesen
We have to figure out a way to explain away the whole, like, I was going to do a war on him.
And there's bad things about him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so it turns out his son is probably CIA.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
And again, I'm not trying to put down RFK Jr., but a lot of high-level sources have pointed out that, and this happens with people's children, they want to be their own person.
His son has been in special operations.
His son has been working with the CIA.
His son, of course, dated Taylor Swift, who was a CIA operation.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And it was his son videotaped him a month ago talking to Trump about vaccines and Kennedy joining him.
And that would be done because Trump hates leakers and doesn't trust leakers after what he went through the first four years in office.
And a lot of experts believe that was done strategically by his son to sabotage that.
You can see he's got his back turned to him, he's turned to the side, and his son's there shooting video of it and then leaks it.
And, of course, they were leaked just the parts they thought would hurt Trump and Kennedy.
So it's really sad to see that type of stuff going on, but if I was RFK Jr., I would keep his son at arm's length.
Who's also fought in Ukraine in the first days in the country.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
U.S. troops have been there for 10, 11 years, but he's been fighting since the war started, officially two and a half years ago.
So not trying to attack RFK Jr.'s family.
I just, that is treacherous, but I think Trump sees through it.
And so this is a big deal.
This is a godsend.
We are very, very excited.
dan friesen
So excited.
Sound excited.
The message seems to be to RFK, abandon your son for Trump.
jordan holmes
Right?
What just happened?
One, I did not know a Kennedy has been fighting in Ukraine since the jump.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
I feel like that should have been...
dan friesen
Did you know that Taylor Swift is a CIA operation?
jordan holmes
Didn't know that.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
That actually does make a lot more sense, though.
I didn't know that she dated a Kennedy.
I don't know any of the choices that any of these people make, but they sound insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that this is a pro-family message that I'm hearing from Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
I think that he really cares about the bonds between parent and child.
jordan holmes
Cut ties, send them to a war zone.
unidentified
Because he's a threat to Trump!
jordan holmes
Send them to a war zone because he's a threat to Trump.
And then never speak to them again.
dan friesen
So the CIA is working with RFK's kid.
In order to record him having a conversation with Trump, leak that, because Trump doesn't like leakers, so they're trying to sabotage the relationship between RFK and Trump through the CIA asset sun.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, I don't know if the CIA should be allowed to think anymore if this is where they go.
dan friesen
I mean, it's a plot.
It's quite a plot.
I think it sounds more like something Alex would come up with than the CIA.
jordan holmes
It does sound a lot like that, because it sounds to me like if I were to hear that plan, if I was somebody who had any kind of control whatsoever over anything, and somebody was like, oh, the CIA's got this plan, I'd be like, then we have to close doors now.
There has to no longer be.
dan friesen
We're out of hand, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is out of control.
dan friesen
We need some oversight.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
I know we're the CIA, but this is fucking dumb.
jordan holmes
Jesus, can't we overthrow a country or something?
We're doing this.
We're getting his son to take photos?
roger stone
God.
dan friesen
It sounds more like rationalization.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has a guest on the show, not Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Another luminary, just like this is a great guest for him to have.
alex jones
Victor Boot, the famous mercenary, as the media calls him, and businessman and confidant of Vladimir Putin.
We'll be joining us in the third hour today.
unidentified
Is that okay?
alex jones
He's also going to dial us in to some military folks on the front lines in Russia.
Wait, what?
Where now, 14 days ago, NATO backed an invasion of Russia proper.
The first time that's happened since the Germans invaded in Operation Barbarossa in 1942.
We'll also talk about the...
Attempted a cessation of Trump with Victor Boot.
And we'll also talk about Putin with his amnesty for people fleeing Satanism in the West.
dan friesen
So yeah, Victor Boot coming back on.
We talked about him being on the show a little while back.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because he is a gun trafficker.
stephen colbert
Right.
dan friesen
An arms dealer.
International arms dealer.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sold weapons to terrorists.
Got busted in a sting operation.
And then was part of the prisoner exchange with Brittany Grenier.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
With Russia.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, whoever said there are no second acts was way wrong.
Way wrong.
There are four, fifth, sixth, and then there are arms dealer acts, which may go on forever.
dan friesen
This is, it's nuts.
I mean, him being on once was pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was crazy.
dan friesen
Him coming back.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
So, Alex, I believe he said in that clip, or if he doesn't, he does at other points, he says that he's a governor.
Now, Victor Booth as a governor?
Yeah, he's a local politician in Russia now.
jordan holmes
I would be not there.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's part of a ultra-nationalist Russian party called the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
dan friesen
That name?
Is misleading.
jordan holmes
You think?
dan friesen
Yeah.
This party is famous as the first officially sanctioned opposition party in Russia, but it's also been followed by allegations that they were pretty close with the KGB.
jordan holmes
Almost like controlled opposition.
dan friesen
It's an interesting phrase.
Their founder, Vladimir Zirinovsky, has a bit of a flair for the dramatic, and he got in trouble in 2017 when he made this threat in parliament.
Quote, in March next year, I will drive into the Kremlin and shoot and hang you, you scoundrels.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
The Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project explained their party like this.
They, quote, cultivate an image of political opposition.
The party's rhetoric is strongly nationalist and its criticism of the official policy often adopts a right-wing position.
But that criticism is often purely symbolic.
In most cases, the party ends up supporting the Kremlin's legislative priorities.
In Russia, the phrase loyal or systemic opposition is often used to describe such parties, which a functioning democracy, but in fact serve as placeholders for genuine opposition movements.
Their founder, Zirinovsky, was a bit of a racist asshole with such published Public comment says, quote, the United States is being overrun by blacks and Hispanics.
You and us, the Russians, share the same threat from the dark-skinned people from the Third World.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Or there was another time when he said, quote, dark-skinned street vendors in Moscow make it look like a non-Russian city.
This is a black stain that should be eradicated.
unidentified
Eek.
dan friesen
I'm taking these quotes from an article in the noted woke outlet The Heritage Foundation.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Titled, Zirinovsky in his own words.
jordan holmes
The greatest ever made.
dan friesen
That's the party that Victor Boot is now local governor for.
And it seems to be, I would assume this is part of why he's interested in targeting his efforts at someone like Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think there's some overlap spiritually.
jordan holmes
I would really, I mean, if I was him, I would have asked for this same job, but like outside of Russia.
I would like to be at least it's a little bit harder for you to kill me at a whim.
That's what I would prefer.
dan friesen
It would give you a little bit more comfort.
jordan holmes
Just a little bit of space.
I don't want him knowing a guy in my town.
dan friesen
That's why Alex is talking.
I believe in that clip he even mentioned that Russia is offering refugees from the satanic.
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
They'll let you come here if you're running from the globalists.
dan friesen
But I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to stay here and go.
Yeah, you do not do that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely do not do that.
Have you heard some of the stuff they do to people?
You do not want to do that.
dan friesen
So I think that there's a little bit...
I mean, obviously it's not a one-to-one parallel or anything, but there's a little bit of a dynamic of the GOP and Alex's sort of...
Ron Paul fringy kind of shit with the Liberal Democratic Party and Putin's shit.
Language-wise.
Yeah, there's a sort of dialectic balance between the two that is similar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they can both use each other well, but I think both of them would be very mad if they were forced to live under either one of theirs.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Ideas, yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, you have to ask yourself, why is this Victor Boot guy coming on the show?
jordan holmes
Huge question of mine.
dan friesen
That's because he's a big fan.
jordan holmes
That sounds wrong.
alex jones
And by the way, great job, the producers.
Nobody gets Victor Boot.
Nobody.
Doesn't give interviews to anybody.
He's a governor now in Russia.
And the reason we get Victor Boot is he was in prison for over a decade.
Here in the United States, extra died of the United States supposedly for arms dealing, and he was in prison and listened to me for over a decade on local AM stations.
See, so people on X are like, why do you have breaks?
Well, I know a lot of you are young, and I understand that, but there's a thing called talk radio.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's probably what I would tell Alex, too, if I were in his position.
You were my soulless when I was in prison wrongfully charged with gun dealing.
jordan holmes
I think my understanding of international law has always been that you wouldn't be an international arms dealer if everybody was going out of their way to arrest you all the time.
Generally speaking, if they get you, it's probably because you are part of a larger problem, you know?
dan friesen
I have to assume that it's like...
Pretty bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, what you've gotten up to is bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If it rises to the level of, like, you know, a giant international sting operation over guns deal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because let's face it, most everybody likes a little international arms deal.
Nobody wants all their own arms being all over the place, you know, because then people are like, hey, why are your arms there?
So maybe you want a little international arms dealer.
But you don't want the guy who's doing too much.
dan friesen
You don't want the guy who is eventually going to be played by Nicolas Cage.
Yes, correct.
That's generally going to be, you know...
jordan holmes
And Victor Boot is waiting for the Nicolas Cage treatment.
dan friesen
He's already had it!
jordan holmes
What?
Oh, that's right!
It's right!
Oh my god, I forgot!
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, fucking hell.
dan friesen
Yep.
So anyway, you listen to Alex in Prison.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Makes sense.
That sounds good.
Also, Alex seems to be a little bit insulting towards Brittany Grenier here when he talks about the prisoner exchange.
jordan holmes
Weird.
alex jones
That's the power of talk radio.
He's in prison listening to this show five days a week.
Guys, look up how long Victor Boot was in U.S. prison.
I want to get the actual number.
I think it was 12 years?
How many years?
So my memory served.
Ten years in prison, sentenced to 25, and exchanged in that prisoner swap for the pot-smoking NBA player.
So, that's what's going on.
That is the exclusive that nobody else gets coming up.
dan friesen
You're supposed to be fine with people smoking weed, Alex.
Why would you be in favor of her being arrested in Russia?
jordan holmes
I mean, shouldn't that...
You realize how bullshit the arrest was?
What are we doing?
dan friesen
This pot-smoking NBA player.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what his even angle is on that.
dan friesen
He's trying to make a convicted arms dealer the good person in the prisoner exchange with a woman who got arrested for smoking pot or having pot in a sham arrest in Russia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I just don't see any way.
No matter what tone of voice you take on that, you're crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, she didn't commit a crime!
jordan holmes
Like, wait, no.
You can't sarcastic your way out of that.
dan friesen
Yeah, this just looks bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this looks bad.
Because it's bad.
dan friesen
I will say that I don't know if Victor Boot doesn't do any other interviews.
Like, I don't know that to be true for sure.
But, if we accept that premise, Alex needs to do a lot more soul-searching about how suspicious it is that he's the only person who will do an interview with him.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, that should say more about him.
dan friesen
It sets off alarms.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, I was hoping to hear about the DNC.
And Alex, he has so many clips.
jordan holmes
I forgot the DNC is even happening, honestly.
dan friesen
The show has a magic way of making you forget.
alex jones
It's a good thing we don't have a guest in the second hour because I have more than 20 clips from last night's DNC.
And I know a lot of you don't want to be subjected to this.
We covered it Monday.
We covered it Tuesday.
It is the most horrible.
Lying.
It's like a tree full of parrots chirping the same lies over and over again.
It's like being teleported for a visit to hell.
But that said, we do have some juicy clips.
And they're just amazing.
They're absolutely amazing.
dan friesen
They're so amazing, these clips.
They're lies and parrots.
He only plays a few clips.
It's underwhelming.
The analysis is underwhelming, I would say.
I was disappointed.
But I kind of get it.
I watched a little bit of his live coverage of the night two, and he wasn't on most of it.
It's mostly like Harrison and Chase.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah, because, I mean, what are you going to do?
You're going to have to talk over the whole time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a marathon, and I don't think Alex has the energy for it.
jordan holmes
I don't.
dan friesen
No.
It's kind of boring.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know what anybody thinks it's going to be.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, I'm tuning in and I'm like, wow, Kamala Harris' husband is fucking delightful.
He seems really, he seems like he actually has a sense of humor.
jordan holmes
That's it.
dan friesen
Yep, this is pretty funny.
jordan holmes
Great, what are we doing then?
dan friesen
He seems charming.
I don't know how you're going to spin that on Infowars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Good luck?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex skims some headlines of articles about the DNC.
I just think we're in soft territory.
alex jones
There's another one.
Democrats have controlled the White House for 12 of the last...
16 years.
Think about that.
And somehow it's still all Trump's fault.
That's really the big talking point because it's true.
Meanwhile, Cardinal Cupich prays for peace and unity as the DNC while there's on-site abortion trucks killing babies.
Can't make that up.
We've got video of that.
We're going to also be getting into a bunch of other clips that I've...
Got here.
Obama says Trump's got a weird obsession with the size of crowds, pretending it's something about Trump's peepee.
Meanwhile, Democrats have to bring rappers to their events to fill seats.
But just think about what a disingenuous statement that is.
We're going to play it.
Do grocery stores, are they into crowds?
Are football games into crowds?
Are colleges into crowds?
Are dental offices into crowds?
Are movie theaters into crowds?
jordan holmes
What is happening now?
alex jones
Are restaurants into crowds?
Because they have trouble getting big crowds.
They had to pay people to go to their event in Chicago.
They have a war chest.
It's just ginormous.
But, again, talk about gaslighting.
He's into the size of crowds.
Well, yeah, he owns golf courses and hotels and everything else.
When you're actually into success, you're into crowds.
Like, oh, why are there ratings for movies?
Why are there ratings for TV shows?
dan friesen
This feels really weak.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
You have a couple things going on here, which is that Alex doesn't have the same ammo he expected to have when he needed to cover the DNC.
It's supposed to be the hellish mass ritual where they'd kill Joe Biden to allow Michelle Obama and Hillary to take their place as the head witches of the Democratic coven to finally bring forth the final battle between good and evil.
And what do we have?
A van providing emergency contraception to people?
Obama made a dick joke?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're an InfoWards viewer, you kind of have to be a bit let down by this.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, this is weak.
dan friesen
And Alex is kind of making Obama's point about the crowd size joke.
He's getting really defensive unnecessarily about crowd sizes, which is the very thing that Obama is mocking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The correct response from Alex on this is either to say nothing or shame Obama for making a dick joke.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's beneath him or something like that.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
That's all you got.
dan friesen
Defending Trump's defensiveness about crowds is the weak position and it makes you look stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You should know better than this, Alex.
Your instincts.
unidentified
Come on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I will say from a decade on the stage.
You're going to lose if you're like, hey, hey, hey, hey, everybody likes crowd size.
You're done.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're done, buddy.
Guess who's going to be on my side and not yours?
The crowd.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they're going to make fun of you.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like, I'm cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
stephen colbert
Nope.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't have done that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Nope.
So, you know, I think they could have just let it drop.
But instead, Alex gets really defensive about this dick joke.
And it goes on way too long.
alex jones
If you're into crowds, that is freaking weird.
I've never heard anything that weird.
I mean, like, so what?
He was on with Elon Musk two Mondays ago and got over a billion views and listens.
jordan holmes
So what?
alex jones
It's the biggest interview ever in history.
I mean, big deal.
Biggest interview in history.
I mean, I thought I was doing good when one Joe Rogan interview had 100 million views.
I thought my Elon Musk interview with 50 million was big.
Man, I thought...
I thought Tucker Carlson's $300 million with Putin was big.
But that's actually bad, folks.
When you've got a billion views, you're a loser.
When Kamala has a live stream and has 3,000 people on it, that's the type of crowd you want.
You understand?
In fact, since I'm on that, let's play the Obama clip.
Obama.
Trump's got a weird...
I was getting this next hour, but let's start getting into some now before Roger gets on.
Trump's got a weird obsession with crowd size.
Here it is.
barack obama
This weird obsession with crowd sizes.
unidentified
APPLAUSE Oh, if you're a radio listener, you didn't see it.
alex jones
He, like, holds his hands down by his crotch and does a penis measurement size.
Look, we all know that Mike's got a two-foot-long ding-dong.
I'm sure Mike doesn't probably have, you know, a rhinoceros penis.
We understand.
jordan holmes
What the fuck is happening?
dan friesen
What's happening?
This is not how you would respond to this.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is not pro shit here.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nope.
No, I think here's the appropriate response.
When the Obamas go low...
They find out exactly how far down Trump dicks hangs.
You know, like, that's kind of as good as you're going to get.
dan friesen
Well, I think Alex is trying to get a little lower than what Obama's low here is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's...
dan friesen
And so you get the transphobia and the mocking of Michelle Obama, but then...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's just...
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
No, you go...
You either go, yeah, Trump's dick is so small jokes, and then you take the power back, or you attack them for...
dan friesen
You only...
You pretend to be scandalized by this kind of talk.
That's what you do when you're the fucking right wing.
You can't make a joke on this joke because you look like an...
Like, this looks bad.
This looks idiotic.
jordan holmes
Oh, Trump's dick is small?
It's about the same size as Obama's integrity?
How about that?
You know, like, that's the way you do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's sort of a...
Tucking and rolling.
Right, right, right.
You're falling out of a...
The joke is pushing you out of this vehicle.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And you just gotta land and keep rolling.
jordan holmes
You gotta keep going.
dan friesen
You're not gonna win this one.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It is what it is.
jordan holmes
You get into a different car and you run that car into their car.
You're not gonna try and hang on.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex decides that instead what he's gonna do is he's going to...
You know that song, Big John?
You don't mess around with Big John.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
Alex decides that he's going to do a parody of that, but about Michelle Obama.
jordan holmes
Wild.
He's going to use the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Nobody knew where Big Mike came from.
He just drifted into town and stayed all alone.
If he said much to Big Mike, just said hi.
He's Big Mike.
You know, they say he got in a fight over a Cajun queen.
New Orleans.
Yep.
I've got to actually get the lyrics from that because I'm going from memory and then rewrite it for Big Mike.
In fact, today I'm going to get in the studio and I'm going to rewrite Jimmy Dean's Big John.
I'm going to get it right because just me joking around last night was viral on Instagram and Twitter, millions of views and all this other stuff.
We're going to do an official ode to Jimmy Dean and Big John, Big Mike.
I'm going to rewrite it.
I'm going to nail it.
We're going to get it done.
Oh, boy.
Okay, I got more of those.
There's so many of these.
I have over 20 of these bad boys.
dan friesen
So many of these clips he's got to get to.
So, like, I think that this is the attempt to, like, make your own humor off this.
Sure.
It feels desperate.
It's the opposite of what that Lil Jon felt like.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that felt breezy and, like...
Actually, mildly self-effacing, but also celebratory.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
This just feels, like, desperate.
And Alex's like, oh, we got a little bit of attention for this bigotry that I packaged in a song parody.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I'm gonna put more effort into that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you gotta wreck it.
So here's the thing.
You've got to recognize when the joke is beating you.
He's not recognizing that because if you did that, if you recognize that, then you've got to do a writer's room situation.
The moment Obama killed with a dick joke, you have to be in the office the next morning like, how are we going to talk about this?
Because if we just allow Alex to go off the dome, we're going to get this shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
And this is worse than nothing.
jordan holmes
Worse than pretending it never happened.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Your job when you're Alex is probably just to move on.
jordan holmes
Power through.
Power through, yeah.
dan friesen
Nothing is a good response.
So Roger Stone comes in.
And he's talking about how all the polls that are saying that Harris and Walls are popular, they are not real.
Because there's some trustworthy places that he gets his news from.
unidentified
Oh boy.
roger stone
Trump is actually now beginning to move ahead in a number of the key polls that I do trust.
The oddsmakers in Las Vegas, who we both know are virtually never wrong, now moving him several points ahead in terms of his likeliness to win the election.
dan friesen
Yeah, sure.
You go to Gallup, I got a bookie.
I know a bookie.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
I think he's misunderstanding my understanding of how oddsmakers work.
Is that they are not, like, putting their finger on the scale.
Their idea is they want to set it up so that they can win and...
dan friesen
Maximize profit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a commercial industry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so, like, the idea would be, like, oh, if there's...
Putting that more on there would be like, oh, there's 10 to 1 odds for Trump because not enough people are betting on it.
Maybe I'm wrong.
dan friesen
There's a need to make sure the House comes out ahead whenever you're making these books, whenever you're making these odds.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's built into the science of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Whereas people who are doing polling are doing polling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you want to kind of have the same amount of money on both sides of the bet.
And so you adjust the odds to the place where people will put the same amount of money on both sides of the bet.
dan friesen
It is very funny.
That Roger Stone, like, it's a parody of himself to be like, I don't trust the polls, I know a bookie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is nuts.
dan friesen
It's like him doing a commercial and a prayer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I got a guy who tells me what the real straight dope is.
dan friesen
So the odds are going up for Trump, though.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because RFK is on board.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he's got buzz.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
roger stone
And I think he can help Trump in many ways, but...
He does have a buzz out there.
He does have his group, the support he does have for himself, while it's still nationally in single digits.
He does somewhat better among younger voters.
I do think they will follow him.
I do think they respect him.
I think just as Tulsi Gabbard joining the Trump campaign, the Trump effort, is seismic.
That is a huge development.
dan friesen
Is that seismic?
jordan holmes
I forgot who Tulsi Gabbard actually was for a second.
dan friesen
And I think anybody who's paying attention assumed that she, like, supported Trump even when she was running as a Democrat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I thought that was her whole shtick.
dan friesen
People didn't...
I don't think it's a seismic shift.
jordan holmes
Do people support her or is she just like an avatar?
dan friesen
I think right-wing folk, a lot of them support her.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
I think, you know, it's the I left the left kind of support.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I mean, you know, I think the confusion I have is like the idea of these people are going to follow RFK, which doesn't make sense to me because I always thought that RFK was like the avatar.
For which they put their dissatisfaction with the rest of the choices and gave him that.
Not like, oh, well, we're going to follow him.
Once he is no longer the representative of dissatisfaction, then he is dead to them, right?
dan friesen
Some percentage.
jordan holmes
Right, that has to be...
dan friesen
There will be that fall-off.
jordan holmes
Because who is like, well, oh, Captain Mike Captain, dead bear cub asshole, let's do this.
dan friesen
People who are diehard Kennedy stans.
jordan holmes
That is a thing!
dan friesen
People who love the family.
They can't get enough of it.
American royalty, baby!
jordan holmes
I mean, hey, there are people who still love the monarchy and more power to them.
dan friesen
There's got to be some small amount that Trump will get from that.
jordan holmes
Must be.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
I think that...
dan friesen
RFK's relevance comes down to funny headlines.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty much.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
His willingness to say weird shit.
dan friesen
I don't know how much buzz that's really going to generate for Trump.
In the same way that Tulsi Gabbard, she's primarily popular with Jimmy Dore types, Tim Pool types.
We're already going to support Trump.
This isn't breaking any new ground, really.
So, you know, it would, though.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
If Tim Walz and J.D. Vance had a debate, that would be fun.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Or what if Kamala Harris and Trump had a debate?
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
We need debates.
unidentified
I don't want any debates.
roger stone
The other thing I really want to see, Alex, in all honesty, is a J.D. Vance-Tim Walz debate.
I mean, get me the popcorn.
This will be a classic because it really would be a contrast between two...
Completely different political philosophies.
I think J.D. Vance is underrated as Trump's running mate.
I think his moment in this race is going to come.
His defining moment is going to come, which will prove that he was in fact the right choice.
I really want to see both of these debates.
I think that with Obama moving his top operatives into the Kamala Harris campaign to try to take control of it, you're gonna have some friction there.
But they have to be thinking about how she can dodge debates, because the debates are fraught with peril for her.
Trump is a championship debater.
He proved in the debate with Biden that he can be disciplined, that he can be focused.
He didn't take the bait, even though in his few lucid moments during the debate, Biden tried to bait him.
That was a triumphant debate.
He was not good.
He was excellent.
alex jones
And I totally agree.
As bad as Biden is, Kamala will be worse.
That's why I actually don't think she'll debate.
I mean, she showed up twice in the last two nights for a minute and a half each time and reads off a teleprompter just to say a few words and looked like a deer in the headlights.
dan friesen
She's agreed to multiple debates.
But also...
jordan holmes
She's got an advantage over Biden, too, in that she is alive.
That is usually helpful in that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do think...
I would like to watch the debate between Walls and Vance, because you have, like...
Very likable versus...
Oh my god.
What is this?
Unlikable person.
jordan holmes
I will say that Vance will have...
His moment will come.
And if he steps up to that moment, I will give you $10 billion.
dan friesen
Here's the premise that I agree with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Roger's saying that his time will come.
Which implies that it hasn't yet.
Right.
And that I agree with.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Whatever impact he's supposed to have has not happened yet.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
But there will be a moment where everyone truly sees Vance, and I do not think that they are going to get the response that they think they are.
dan friesen
No, but it's nice for Roger to hold out hope.
jordan holmes
Good luck!
dan friesen
Now, I do think that when you have Roger Stone on the day after the, you know, Obamas give speeches at the DNC, And he needs to lead with, I was wrong.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you'd think.
dan friesen
Yeah, he probably should.
But there's no real talk of that.
jordan holmes
It's been a long time since I've heard anybody say they were wrong, to be honest.
dan friesen
I've been predicting Michelle Obama was going to take over the party.
Oh no, she gave a nomination, a congratulatory speech for Harris.
jordan holmes
I could see...
The angle that I would see taking if I was Roger Stone is I would be like, did you see the two speeches?
They both had the keynote speeches.
They both got the best reviews.
They're the old fucking bombers.
They already run everything.
The party is theirs.
Did you hear them talk?
And the way everybody masturbated rapturously?
dan friesen
I guess that's a way that Roger could try to save face, but that's not what he predicted.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Agreed.
Agreed.
dan friesen
That's not what...
It wouldn't work for me, but it might work for Alex.
jordan holmes
It's the best I can come up with, having less than 40 seconds to think about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex goes to some calls after Roger leaves.
And this one caller, I think he misunderstood some of the chants at the DNC.
unidentified
I don't have cable television, but I was able to see enough clips, I think.
And, you know, to be honest, one of the biggest takeaways I have...
Yeah, not just from the laughable speakers and the normal lies, but everyone chanting "do something," right?
Everyone chanting "do something." Well, I think, you know, it's no surprise to anybody that the Democrats have had long enough to do something, right?
And the hypocrisy of it all is the fact that the one man that actually did something and has done something over the last 12-plus years is the very person that they claim to hate.
The very person that they claim to be running against.
dan friesen
So, during Michelle's speech, there was a chant of do something.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it was not the audience chanting, I demand you do something.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It was in response to her saying, don't just sit around and talk.
We need to do something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, if we want to make a change in politics, we want to make sure that we win this election.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Do something.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Don't just talk.
Do something.
And so people trying to do something.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But it was not like an indictment of the, like, you, Michelle, you do something.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And that's the way it seems to be being presented in the conversation with Alex.
jordan holmes
I would also have appreciated a nice, like, reverse threat, you know, out of it.
Like, hey, do something.
unidentified
Huh?
jordan holmes
What do you got?
I'm fucking Michelle.
Do something.
Do it.
dan friesen
I dare you.
jordan holmes
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
You know, while we're on the subject of chants.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a chant that unfortunately seems to happen when the Wyatts come out and are about to attack Chad Gable and his friends.
And that is people chanting, you fucked up.
And if you watch these, I watch these clips on YouTube.
I watch them after the fact.
I'm not spending all night watching Raw.
Sure, sure.
But they have to bleep it.
jordan holmes
They have to bleep the crowd?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's not cool.
You can't do that.
dan friesen
That's a strange revelation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That you do have to bleep the crowd if you're on TV, and that's the power of the crowd.
They can yell obscenities.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
I'm going to have to go with we should rethink everything about our society if you have to bleep the crowd.
dan friesen
It's weird.
It gets in the way.
jordan holmes
Start from scratch.
dan friesen
So we get another caller, and this person has really good...
Question for Alex that he can't really answer, but he tries.
rich in new jersey
Do you think Trump is playing possum in these rallies because he knows about the deep state?
It's what we talk about, what we listen to you about every single day on this award.
unidentified
Is he playing possum or is he just not aware?
alex jones
What do you think?
What's your opinion?
rich in new jersey
What do you think is going through his strategy with these rallies?
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
You're talking about Trump?
Yes.
How are you saying he's playing possum?
unidentified
Well, I'm saying all the things like, what is an assassination attempt?
It's like, he's a smart dude.
You know what I mean?
This guy's been around.
He's been around the block a few times.
You know what I mean?
alex jones
He has spoken about the assassination.
He's thanked God for saving him every time.
And he has talked about how they stood down.
But he needs to go further.
And directly say, I know you did it, and don't try it again.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm sorry.
That's my point.
Why isn't he going for the jugular?
rich in new jersey
Or is he playing possum, making people like, I know what you're doing.
alex jones
Trump, you know, I can't tell you how Trump's brain works, but he's a tough guy.
He doesn't want to look weak.
He's just whining.
If I had to guess.
dan friesen
Yeah, you would see it as whining.
He doesn't want to do that.
The guy who complains all the goddamn time.
Wow.
I think that this is a great question that I think is funny, but is that being asked in sincere good faith by this caller, which is, is Trump playing possum by not saying all the shit that you say and that you tell us that he believes on the show?
Why doesn't your version match up with this person?
Is it strategic on his part?
They tried to shoot him!
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
It seems like it should be now or never.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the fun thing about that question is that you can't answer with, no, he's not, because by asking the question, you are acknowledging that the behavior is what it is.
Right?
So you can't be like, I think he's doing a great job.
No, because he's making people...
Think that he's playing possum.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Or at least question whether or not he's playing possum, meaning his behavior is such that they have to question it.
dan friesen
This caller's response is indicative of a bunch of people's response.
jordan holmes
Right.
A question is an indictment.
dan friesen
You can't pretend that that voice isn't there.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, uh, yeah.
jordan holmes
No good.
dan friesen
It's not a good answer that Alex has, but there isn't a good answer.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It's like, well, I mean, they're in the same situation that everybody was with Biden, where it's like, oh, is Biden alive?
No, but you have to say he is, and then we got Kamala, and now everything's fine.
dan friesen
I guess Alex's best play in this situation is unfortunately like, he kind of has to be a politician.
jordan holmes
Ooh, but then you've lost!
dan friesen
Exactly.
That's against the ethos and the myth of Trump, but that's probably the only way you really walk through...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, they wrote themselves into a corner, and now they have to get rid of him, or they're going to lose.
It's very simple.
It's almost too simple.
dan friesen
Maybe that's what RFK is for.
Payback for his uncle and his dad.
He's going to murder Trump.
jordan holmes
Now we're talking.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Now that's a movie.
Give me some trailer music.
dan friesen
Wouldn't it be weird to walk across Trump and a bicycle in Central Park?
You just pan out.
You pan out.
You see RFK in the jail cell.
jordan holmes
The ultimate joke.
I mean, if that happens, he has transcended humor beyond anything I could ever imagine.
dan friesen
Yeah, blames it on the worm.
jordan holmes
He should just ascend to heaven like fucking Elijah in chariots of fire.
dan friesen
We'll see what happens on that front.
jordan holmes
Oh, I mean, man.
dan friesen
So, we get another caller.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this person is critical of Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
Because they feel like their account is being throttled.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
And they're just trying to build a following, man.
Elon's letting at you all this free speech stuff, but not me.
Right.
What's going on?
jordan holmes
Yeah, interesting question.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so he believes that by calling Infowars, he's calling customer service for Twitter.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good call.
dan friesen
Because Elon Musk is listening.
unidentified
You know, Elon Musk, all of a sudden, all these accounts got marked as spam, and it's right before the 2024 election.
I feel like he's almost censoring us, all these small accounts.
If you're Justin Bieber or somebody, your account's not going to get messed with, but somebody like me who's trying to build and trying to spread truth and all that, it's impossible to work with that.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I can barely keep track of my own X account.
Clearly, I get throttled some.
That's a big, complex issue.
There's a lot of Democrat Party groups that go out and flag accounts.
Over and over again, we know they've been flagging my account to try to suppress.
There's a lot of different techniques they use.
And then the smaller accounts get flagged a bunch, and a lot of X is automated.
He fired 80% of the employees.
And I know that he's got the best platform other than Rumble or smaller InfoWars in the aggregate.
So I don't look a gift towards the mouth, but definitely Naomi Wolf, last time I checked, had somebody trick her.
To give them her login information, and they shot her out and kicked her out of her account.
And then last time I checked, it's been a few days, she couldn't get any service to get it fixed.
So yeah, I think we should hold Elon's feet to the fire.
I just can't definitively tell you what is actually going on.
Does that answer your question?
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, sort of.
I just, you know, I'm really calling in to make it a stink.
You know, I know you all probably watched the show, and I really want them to see that it's hurting small people because I actually had a friend who posted videos, and he immediately got taken down, and he couldn't figure out why.
And this is, like, stuff that he put a lot of work into, and he could have just turned around and deleted it off of his computer for all, you know, and it got lost for forever.
alex jones
All right, I hear you.
I'm sorry that's happening, and we need to make the Internet open and free again and great again.
But I don't mind you calling in.
I appreciate your call.
You're welcome to call back and say the same thing again.
We are here.
Fighting the big tech takeover.
And compared to Google and Facebook and all the rest of it, Elon's doing a great job.
But certainly there's room for improvement.
And I've seen it, in my opinion, the service getting better at being expanded.
But certainly there are a lot of issues.
So thank you.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Hey, buddy, it's working for me right now.
So, yeah, but we're not going to be mad about you having this problem because we have to give voice to you and support the small accounts that are being stepped on.
By the guy who's supposed to not step on.
I thought these were like the fundamental problems that they had with old Twitter.
jordan holmes
Seems like they thought that Elon was buying it for them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As opposed to for himself.
dan friesen
How the fuck does that story about Naomi Wolf have anything to do with anything?
jordan holmes
This is about baffling.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Baffling.
I'm baffled.
unidentified
I don't know any of the details.
jordan holmes
She got tricked, and then she's not allowed back in, and that is where it ends?
I'm just supposed to be left with that?
Who tricked her?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Unless it was Elon himself.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know how this relates.
But I do think there's something very charming about this guy thinking that Elon's listening to Alex's show regularly.
jordan holmes
No, I think it's Alex's fault.
I think it makes perfect sense for this guy to believe that Elon is listening based upon the way Alex has treated it.
dan friesen
Yes!
jordan holmes
Yeah, this guy is, I mean...
dan friesen
No, I agree.
Yeah.
I understand how we got to this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's insane.
jordan holmes
Yes, it is insane.
dan friesen
It's insane that someone would believe that.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right!
And yet, at the same time, it makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Because, you know, who probably is listening is a guy who kind of sounds like Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
But if you're listening, you have to be like, oh, well, that's secretly Elon Musk, so I can get him a message through back channels through Alex.
dan friesen
Naomi Wolf was on the show recently.
If it was the case that Elon's listening, then she shouldn't have had her problems.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Who gives a shit?
Oh, God.
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So get another caller.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Eric in Texas.
Go ahead.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
alex jones
Welcome.
unidentified
Hey, I'm born and raised in Austin, Texas.
I'm a 24-year listener.
I believe I've seen your video when you refused a thumbprint scanner.
They're at the text doc.
They put you in jail.
alex jones
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
jordan holmes
That was pretty cool.
dan friesen
This guy is an award-winning CBD maker.
He goes on to reveal that.
But this clip, I think, is a perfect encapsulation of how Alex's audience has to believe total bullshit in order to prop up their illusions about him.
This is a guy who says he's been listening for 24 years, and the first thing that comes out of his mouth is that he thinks it's cool how Alex went to the DMV and refused to get thumbprinted, which got him arrested.
This didn't really happen.
This is a myth that Alex perpetuates, but unless you listen to his show regularly, you might not know that he wasn't really arrested for this, and he's admitted that what happened was that he made a big scene at the DMV refusing to get thumbprinted for his new duplicate license application, and then came back after the crowd died down and went through the process because he needed his driver's license to go about his life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's just important.
dan friesen
The fake version of this story is so much better for an audience member because it preserves the illusion that Alex gives a shit about any of this.
If you understand what really happened, it's kind of too obvious that what Alex did was whip people into a frenzy about something he insisted they should be super afraid of, quietly submitted to the thing that everyone was supposed to be afraid of, then marketed videos to the people insisting that they should be super afraid of this thing that he's submitted to, but is pretending to be the champion against to the point where he's arrested for it.
Here's a clip of him from March 20, 2003.
unidentified
Okay, Alex, what happened with your deal when you went down to do your license and they asked you to thumb scan?
And wasn't there some kind of an uproar?
What ended, what became of all that?
alex jones
To see the video in American Destroyed by Design, you ever seen that footage?
unidentified
No, I've seen Masters of Terror just last week.
We picked that up.
Really enjoyed it.
My mom wants to use it at her church in Wisconsin.
alex jones
Well, I suggest it's a primer road to tyranny is the best we've got production-wise.
I would suggest you get that one.
They're all great.
unidentified
Were you able to get around the thumb scan?
alex jones
No.
They have a waiver.
unidentified
Some people have gotten it.
alex jones
They will not give it to you and will refuse it.
I could sue them, but then I wouldn't have time to be on the radio six, seven hours a day.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
Like tonight, I'm going to be on Jeff Rents.
I'll be filling in for somebody for two hours a day here locally.
I mean, I'm just working all the time.
dan friesen
It's too busy.
So the image of Alex being this kind of firebrand that would refuse to play by the man's rules and is willing to go to jail for it is really appealing.
It's a very appealing public image and way cooler than right-wing idiot who has good instincts for publicity stunts at least in the 90s, which is basically what he is.
Look, I'm busy.
I've got to be on the radio.
I've got to sell this to you so I can't actually do the fighting thing that I'm implying is so important.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, MLK had to be in a Birmingham jail to write that letter.
Otherwise, people would be like, you're full of shit.
And that's kind of the problem.
dan friesen
You cannot get the thumbprint unless you're busy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's...
Really?
Oh!
Is that all...
Okay, I'll just work harder?
What?
dan friesen
If you're too busy to get the thumbprint, it is very important that you insist other people not get it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because it's tyranny.
But you're under the tyranny because...
You're too busy.
jordan holmes
You gotta work to get people out of the tyranny.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So anyway, we get to Victor Boot.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he comes on.
Here's Alex's, the end of a very long-winded introduction.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Give us the Russian view of what you see happening in America.
Trump being grazed by the bullet, by the grace of God.
The other bullet's missing, killing one man and wounding two others.
Do you think the deep state will try again?
What is your military, business, Russian-American understanding, because I'd say you're pretty much American 10 years and American president, view on the world?
And what do you think Putin's view is?
viktor bout
Well, first of all, greetings with a love from Russia, who is now in the front line, fighting for the future of all humanity.
And what's going on, it's really...
Maybe we are blessed to see how finally...
We're coming to these final stages of this global fight of the geopolitical shifting, which a long time happened maybe a hundred years ago.
dan friesen
I don't know how Alex is supposed to pretend his audience isn't capable of understanding what Boot is talking about, and it's the end of America's international power.
I get that America being a superpower is a generally corrupt notion, and that we should find new ways to have international order, but...
Boot specifically wants America to be less powerful because he wants to reestablish the Soviet Union.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's what his political party is based in.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The Liberal Democratic Party of Russia was founded on principles like reclaiming lost territory, including Alaska.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know what Alex is going on.
What are you trying to pretend here?
jordan holmes
It should be our stuff.
We want our stuff.
dan friesen
The party that Boot is in, it was started by a guy who described his goal as, quote, a political revelation of the foundation of a new arrangement in our region and a new favorable world order.
If I were an InfoWars listener and I heard Alex sucking up to this guy, it would cause some real dissonance.
Like, I would maybe be a little bit pissed off.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen, at a certain point, I'm just going to start shouting Wolverines.
Like, I don't even know what else to say.
unidentified
Wolverines!
jordan holmes
Like, yeah, we can't do that.
We can't do that.
You're supposed to be the anti-Russia guys.
That's been your whole thing my lifetime.
dan friesen
Yeah, and look, I don't think having a knee-jerk everything Russia is bad mentality is good.
Ridiculous.
I think that that would be...
You know, I think it's easy to go down that, take that crutch a little too much.
But this is fucking ridiculous.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
This is a guy who's a former arms dealer, international criminal, who fled back to Russia in a prisoner exchange and is now a governor for the Controlled Opposition Party.
In Russia.
jordan holmes
There could be no, yeah.
dan friesen
It's an absurd person for you to have on your show.
jordan holmes
No, there's just no going back.
It's crazy.
It is crazy.
Unless it is like, we have to, I'm going to swayze you.
I don't know how to engage with this.
dan friesen
Unless this is part of a sting.
jordan holmes
Right?
Like, I could have like, oh, this is a conversation, but you're not supposed to be those guys.
You're the reactionary guys.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The only way this makes sense.
Is if Alex is, it's a long setup for him to be like, you should meet my friend RFK.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
In Central Park.
jordan holmes
In Central Park.
dan friesen
At night.
jordan holmes
Right around 1.30.
dan friesen
Ride a bike.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
If he was doing that, and this is an elaborate setup.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
But otherwise, to just like, oh, it's cool that you're an internet, what?
dan friesen
It's a very boring and understandable interview, too.
Sure.
Because, I mean, it's all just like...
Russia is the good guy in Ukraine.
You know, NATO sucks.
jordan holmes
What is he gonna say?
dan friesen
Russia is a utopia.
This is also wonderful.
It's just...
I don't know.
It's over-the-top Russian propaganda, quite frankly.
But there was one clip that I pulled from it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So this is our last clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But I thought that this was...
Kind of bordering on funny.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
So they talk a little bit about this idea that Russia is taking refugees from the globalists.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So if you're running away from the New World Order.
jordan holmes
People running right towards Russia.
Love it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so here's Victor talking about that a little.
viktor bout
Russia now is the only one European country who is a...
He will still, you know, recognize a normal family.
He will still give a freedom to kids to grow normal kids without being exposed to this confusing, you know, propaganda of LGBTQ and what else is now added, AAP.
Every year it grows like an additional, you know, three, four letters of different weirdo, you know, practices.
So this is a good sign.
Oh, humanity.
You have a refuge land.
You have the land where you can regroup, organize, and start your fight to liberating your own, you know, countries.
Rafa is there to protect entire humanity.
dan friesen
We're protecting humanity because we're giving you a refuge, a place you won't be...
There's not the confusing gaze around.
jordan holmes
I mean, this is...
This I enjoy.
For one specific reason.
In the estimation of these people, the good people allow refugees in.
dan friesen
But only if you're a refugee of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I would argue that based on what they say...
Everybody is a refugee of the globalist.
dan friesen
No, it's really just if you want to hate gay people.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's cool over there.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But here's the thing, like, even then, see?
But if you wanted to hate gay people and then come over here, Alex would be like, don't come over here.
You know, like, again, even in Victor Boot's mind, he's mistaking the idea of a good person for Alex and the idea of like, oh, well, fine, I'll let people in.
No, Alex doesn't want anyone in.
dan friesen
Not here.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
But he's cool with it if it's...
jordan holmes
If it's going to Russia!
dan friesen
And you're white.
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
White, Christian, straight.
Sheesh.
Then refugees are fine.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Well, until they're not.
Yeah.
dan friesen
We can't imagine that day would ever come.
jordan holmes
No, no.
I'm sure.
dan friesen
I just think that this is parody level, almost.
Like, we are the last refuge where you don't have to have confusing gay people around.
It's just...
I don't know.
I feel like Alex should...
It strikes me very similarly to responding to a dick joke.
It's just like, you shouldn't be doing this.
jordan holmes
I wonder...
I think maybe they feel trapped by what they believe.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't understand that feeling at all.
That concept of being like, oh man, maybe...
Maybe life would be better if I didn't believe things that led me to being on InfoWars talking to Alex as though Russia's not committing all kinds of war crimes right now.
You know?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think Boot's pretty joyful.
jordan holmes
He does seem pretty stoked about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
You know, I tune in and I'm looking for DNC coverage.
jordan holmes
Was that what we were doing?
dan friesen
I'm looking, because like...
I've existed in the continuity of time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I have seen Alex's show over the past months and months and months.
And the DNC is huge.
DNC is the culmination of a lot of these narratives.
Biden stole the nomination and the presidency in the first place in order to get the pieces in place so Hillary and Michelle could take over.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's just deflating.
There's barely really an analysis of it.
Instead, we're going to talk to a fucking Russian arms dealer.
jordan holmes
It cannot be overstated how easy they thought they were going to have it shitting on Biden and how fucked up they are by this whole thing.
dan friesen
And, you know, you're burdened with Vance.
jordan holmes
I mean, again, all of these things make way more sense if you think, fuck it, we're playing with house money.
Biden is actually dead.
But now they're like, ah, shit.
And they've got nothing.
dan friesen
I know a man who would call that hubris.
jordan holmes
I got a bookie.
dan friesen
So, I'm disappointed.
It feels like a dud.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Everything feels kind of like, eh.
It's all right.
We'll be back.
Another episode, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also not on social media, but we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Woo!
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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