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#956: August 18, 2024

#956: August 18, 2024 dissects Alex Jones’ wild DNC predictions—Hezbollah sleeper cells, Michelle Obama’s coup, and Tim Walz as a "communist Chinese agent"—debunking recycled right-wing memes like Nazi "strength through joy" slogans and his false ties to Walz’s 1990 cultural exchange article. Jones also pushes election-era biothreat conspiracies, ignoring the WHO’s monkeypox emergency declaration, while framing anti-price gouging laws as communist. Friesen and Holmes mock his declining credibility, comparing it to a wrestler’s desperate reinvention, as the DNC unfolds without chaos. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 12:42
d
dan friesen
26:21
j
jordan holmes
16:18
Appearances
Clips
m
michael savage
00:20
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for the knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
unidentified
Andy and Pandy.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding it.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fishpin color.
I'm like here, saying I love your room.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
No, indeed we are, Deion.
dan friesen
Jordan.
alex jones
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
When do you go first?
jordan holmes
Mine's a little bit weird.
My bright spot is my wife gone back to school.
dan friesen
Okay, this isn't that weird because you're starting by talking about your wife.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
She's gone back to school.
dan friesen
High risk of becoming wife guy.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
That guy.
High risk.
Going back to school.
My bright spot is that I'm fairly certain she's going to get fired this year.
dan friesen
Oh, that is weird.
Okay, never mind.
I take it all back.
jordan holmes
Almost a, and I'll tell you, I'll give you one example.
I'm going to show you a mural that the principal had commissioned.
I'll give you one guess as to who it is of.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
I see scissors.
I see Adam.
What do we got?
jordan holmes
It is of her.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
The principal had a mural picture.
dan friesen
I couldn't guess that.
jordan holmes
A mural painted of the principal herself in the library.
dan friesen
Well, why wouldn't you do that?
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
And then said something.
dan friesen
I thought it was somebody who had maybe made some nuclear something or done something or principal of a school of accomplishments.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
And then she said a lot of things involving being the master of a bunch of children who are the teachers.
And it's going to be a thing where it's like, this is not going to last for that much longer.
dan friesen
Here's a question that I want to ask you about this bright spot.
Are you trying to get your wife fired?
I think we're both expressing this bright spot.
jordan holmes
I think we're both.
dan friesen
Would you like me to edit this out?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, absolutely not.
I asked her in advance.
I was like, I'm telling you, this is what my bright spot is.
I think at a certain point, it's like, man, you know, if you quit, you don't get anything.
unidentified
Maybe we get something out of getting fired.
dan friesen
Good luck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know, but this is unsustainable.
So I don't want her to be a teacher anymore.
So this is my bright spot.
The tunnel, there's light at the end of it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's my bright spot.
How about you?
dan friesen
I'm on a weird foot now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does put you on the back foot.
unidentified
I understand.
jordan holmes
That's on me.
That's on me.
dan friesen
I guess I've been watching a bit of Donahue.
Not because he died, but I've been enjoying taking this trip back into daytime TV from the 90s.
I think there's something just that is uncapturable again.
And maybe for the best.
It may be for the best that we can't get that aesthetic and that whole vibe going with daytime TV that existed when we were younger.
But man, it's strange to look back through the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've been talking about it a little bit.
And there's definitely an amount of like, you know, you're never going to get Fugazi in that basement again.
That is what it was for when it was, and it was perfect.
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that's just where it has to live.
You can never get it back.
dan friesen
You go bank and you watch, and there's commercials for McDonald's.
59 cent hamburgers.
jordan holmes
What?
What?
dan friesen
This economy.
Anyway, we got an episode to go over, Joe.
Today we're going to do a little mini, I think, probably.
It's going to be a little short.
But what I wanted to do was, we are here in Chicago.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
This is our city.
We own Chicago.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
We will be nuked when Alex decides it's time.
jordan holmes
Hopefully, directly on top of us.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm sure it will come down upon my building.
Yep.
But the DNC is happening in Chicago.
And so I want to be able to cover Alex's coverage of it.
So we're going to do this here on covering his Sunday episode.
So we're up to date.
So for Friday, we can talk about some of his coverage, the goings on.
Obviously, it's huge in that Alex's rhetoric requires us to believe that, first of all, there's going to be the biggest chaos that has ever been seen.
Sure.
Because there's all of these Hezbollah sleeper cells that have been shuttled into the country.
There's Antifa, all of this stuff.
They're all very mad.
jordan holmes
It's a powder keg.
dan friesen
Right.
So obviously that is an expectation that exists.
But also, like, Michelle Obama is supposed to step up and like take the candidacy or Hillary or something.
So there's a lot of things that need to happen for Alex's content to be satisfying.
And I don't know if they're going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, not least of which, let's just put it this way.
If I was ever going to nuke Chicago, I can think of no time that would have more impact than now.
dan friesen
Probably.
And I think that that's, you know, I think that the issue is without any of this, Alex's rhetoric kind of is disappointing.
You know, we've built up to this, and if it's just a number of speeches and then Tim Walz and Kamala Harris are the nominees coming out of it, I don't, I feel like Alex should he's got to move goalposts a lot.
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
What if they don't even raise the bridges?
You know, like not barring just the DNC going great.
What if the protests are just totally fine and they don't even raise the bridges?
dan friesen
I feel like there's almost no possibility that everything will be totally fine knowing the police here.
But that being said, the expectation and the legacy of DNCs in Chicago.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like there is a shadow that looms large over this that I think may not reach the fears and the expectations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people are discounting just how important dogs and fire hoses were back in the day towards causing a lot of problems at protests.
And there just aren't as many fire hoses being thrown at people these days.
dan friesen
So we obviously are recording this before a lot happens.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So we don't know if something, you know, if there is, if Michelle Obama does end up storming the stage.
jordan holmes
Hey, I'll accept if I'm wrong.
Right.
dan friesen
If she comes down like sting from the rafters.
jordan holmes
Hey, man.
In fact, if she did that, I think that would make me more likely to vote for her.
dan friesen
Does she need to have a baseball bat?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
So we, you know, obviously we don't know everything that's going to happen, but as it stands right now, I think that this is underwhelming based on how Alex has built it up.
Yeah.
But we'll see how he sets things up on Sunday, the night before things get going here today, as we discuss August 18th.
That's it.
But first, let's take a little moment and say hello to some new walks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Alex Jones' neighbor's well-marbled ass in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms, and garlic.
Yum yum.
Thank you so much.
You're an Al Palsy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Shallots are great.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Especially, you know, I get a little saute on that.
So next, good luck on the bar exam wonk.
Hope law and order stays around long enough to make this whole thing worth it.
Thank you so much.
You're an Al Palziwonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Dr. Nick.
Thank you so much.
You're an Al Palziwonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Hi, Dr. Nick.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Tony the Hurricane Pizza from French Canada.
Thank you so much.
You're an Al Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones, calling Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones, Big Naturals, Big Naturals.
Thank you so much.
You are now a Technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Don't honk your mother telling you, brilliant.
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So here is where we start off on Sunday.
Alex is thinking about Michael Moore.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
It's Sunday, August 18th, 2024.
I'm about to play you a clip of what Michael Moore said about Trump, but he still works against him.
unidentified
InfoWars, the most banned network in the world.
Donald Trump came to the Detroit Economic Club and stood there in front of the Ford Motor executives and said, if you close these factories as you're planning to do in Detroit and build them in Mexico, I'm going to put a 35% tariff on those cars when you send them back and nobody's going to buy them.
It was an amazing thing to see.
No politician, Republican or Democrat, had ever said anything like that to these executives.
And it was music to the ears of people in Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania.
dan friesen
So this is a really good indication of how Alex's show is basically just the right-wing social media meme recap show.
This clip of Michael Moore was making the rounds, but it's not new.
It's been posted around on social media a number of times, but it traces back to Moore's one-man show from 2016 called Michael Moore in Trumpland.
This clip is selectively edited, of course, to remove the context of what he said.
unidentified
Naturally.
dan friesen
In the part that's played, Moore is expressing what the allure of Trump is and how he represents a big middle finger that people want to give to the man.
If you watch the rest of what he's saying, Moore goes on to explain that Trump is never going to do the things he says that you like, that you want to happen, and you're going to be disappointed once the feeling of throwing up that middle finger wears off.
So this is just like, I don't know, eight-year-old clip with swelling music behind it being presented dishonestly.
Great.
jordan holmes
Do you think that will be?
Do you think that'll be a show like America's Funniest Hope videos, like America's recap of right-wing memes?
dan friesen
It is already.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, sure, but I mean, how far can it go?
Are we talking WTTW?
Where is it going to end?
dan friesen
I imagine there'll be like a supercut of Chase and Harrison getting like basketballs thrown for nuts.
That's coming next.
jordan holmes
Like some sort of version of premium blend.
It's just right-wing memes.
dan friesen
I can see it.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So Tim Walz is the vice presidential candidate for the Democratic side.
Sure.
And we've seen some attempts to characterize him on Alex's part.
Here is where we're going next.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
This is a very, very serious time to be alive.
And I am, again, particularly prepared for Sunday night broadcast here.
We've got so much powerful news and information to cover.
I knew that Tim Walz was an admitted socialist and communist and had the military, the State Guard, National Guard stand down in the summer of rage.
And I knew that he did dozens and dozens over 25 trips to China and basically lived there.
I knew he was stolen valor and I knew he was procastrating little boys.
But now all the documents and news articles have come out from the time.
The man was recruited by the communist Chinese and is a communist Chinese agent.
Of course, look at Hunter Biden.
Look at Joe Biden.
Look at half the Democrat Party in the Congress, but he is a Chikom actual agent.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
The documents have come out that he's an actual agent of the Chinese government.
jordan holmes
They are getting really good if they've gotten somebody already up to the vice presidential candidate stage.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
So Tim Walz taught English in China in the late 80s, excuse me, and has been to the country many times, at least some of those instances, taking his U.S. students on field trips to sort of a cultural exchange kind of thing.
There isn't anything wrong with this, but it's enough of a kernel for Alex to turn into this elaborate fantasy narrative, which is what he's doing.
This is the new angle.
And Walls, he's such a friend of the Chinese government that he's publicly expressed opposition to their expansion in the South China Sea, and he met with the Dalai Lama while he was seated in Congress.
He is somebody who's been somewhat critical of the Chinese government in the past.
jordan holmes
I always had that dream of teaching English.
dan friesen
I had some friends who did.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 1920, thinking, man, this is going to be the way that it's going to go.
And I could never figure out how to make it work.
But my best friend managed to get that gig in Japan.
And now he lives there, married a Japanese woman, citizen, has a kid, does the whole thing.
So I have to assume that Tim Walz is secretly living in China with a different wife, a different kid doing the whole thing.
dan friesen
And has secretly known you his whole life?
jordan holmes
He's secretly known me his whole life.
dan friesen
These are some shoddy assumptions.
jordan holmes
It's a bad start.
dan friesen
So I had a couple of friends who also did teaching English.
And yeah, varying degrees of it going well.
jordan holmes
I've heard very, yes, very different stories from very different places.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
One of my friends ended up having the assignment fall apart when he flew over and then had like real chaos and then had to come back.
It was a big mess.
But another friend of mine had a very similar experience to your friend, like ended up living there permanently.
And I think he was in Japan too.
unidentified
Maybe we know the same guy.
jordan holmes
He's everywhere.
And he's Tim Walz.
alex jones
Tim Walz.
dan friesen
Classic Chinese agent.
alex jones
We have Tim Walz, even more information on stolen valor, pushing to castrate children, take them away from their parents, little girls as well, sterilize them.
But now the fact that he has the total signature and MO, 100% a communist, Chinese spy.
And then you have his rhetoric and his actions.
He's a globalist, and he fits in with, you know, hell, half the Democrats in Congress are admitted communist Chinese spies.
This is just insane.
But new videos have come out.
This is very damning.
And news articles, he was interviewed when he was in college and then when he got out of college, leading large groups of Americans to be compromised in communist China.
And he basically admits that he's been on their payroll.
They financially helped him.
dan friesen
Basically.
alex jones
He is a communist Chinese spy.
He was recruited out of a Confucian center in college.
And, of course, I told you about this decades ago.
It broke big last six years.
And Trump banned the Confucian centers at more than 100 major universities.
And we've gone and actually infiltrated them here at UT in Austin.
And I mean, it is open mousehitong, take over America.
dan friesen
Okay, so Alex is making up a whole lot of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't recall Tim Walz leading the cultural revolution, but maybe I missed that.
dan friesen
I might as well.
jordan holmes
I mean, I studied it for a little while, and I thought I had a little bit of a grasp on just the basic details.
But if Tim Walz was there, I think I have to restart from the scratch.
dan friesen
I think that you may need to brush up.
Yeah, yeah, I fucked up.
He's a central figure.
And I would imagine Alex has no idea where the fuck he even went to college or if there was a confusion center there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
Any of this, he's just make it up crazy shit that has the basest little bit of a true story in it.
He taught in China, he taught English in China in the late 80s, and then has been back multiple times, sometimes with student groups.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That is not leading people over there to be compromised.
jordan holmes
To be compromised.
dan friesen
I think that's a big jump that Alex is taking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think a lot of teachers would be surprised to discover that every field trip they have ever taken to anywhere was in direct service of compromising those children.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And their identities are now owned by varying countries all around the world.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Back when I was younger, I went on a mission trip to repair houses.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Compromised.
dan friesen
In New Orleans.
Ooh.
Yeah, that was a trap.
I guess.
jordan holmes
Now you like gumbo.
It's all over.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Walls and his wife.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They are basically just trying to destroy society on behalf of China.
alex jones
I think we've got Walls' wife saying when they were burning down the city, she loved it and opened the windows.
She could smell the burning tires and thought it was wonderful.
But then he was in charge as the governor in order to stand down.
I mean, this is just incredible.
And we have his students saying, look, he told us that Mao was great.
He supported killing people at Tiananmen Square.
dan friesen
Wow, that's quite a claim.
jordan holmes
That's a big one.
dan friesen
So his wife didn't say that.
And Walls was actually the one who called in the National Guard, not the person doing some kind of a stand down.
Alex's narrative on this is confusing because he's also been trying to paint Walls as a tyrant using the National Guard to terrorize the public in 2020.
So this talking point is a little bit muddled.
unidentified
It is difficult.
dan friesen
You can't figure out which he wants.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he doesn't.
This is weak tee.
This is all weak teeth.
Nobody, he's he's done, he doesn't actually have a handhold, and he's trying to throw everything out there, but there's just really comical and it's extremely different.
No, and I mean, yeah, and even then, like, she's opening the window, smelling the burning tire.
Yeah, that's fucking Mad Max cool.
That is cool shit.
You are not smearing her as like an awful person.
dan friesen
We talked about that on a past episode, and like the real and fake version of that are tough to deal with.
And it's just not, it's no good.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
But what about the idea that he supported killing people in Tiananmen Square?
jordan holmes
You know, I don't know, in 100% honesty, I don't know if anyone outside of the Politburo supported killing people at Tiananmen Square.
dan friesen
He is the head of the Politburo.
jordan holmes
Okay, never mind.
dan friesen
But you need to understand.
jordan holmes
Never mind.
I take it all back.
dan friesen
So Walls actually spoke at the House of Representatives 2014 session memorializing the 25th anniversary of Tiananmen Square.
He said, quote, I'm very cognizant there's an entire generation of Americans who don't understand what happened there.
They don't understand what the impact of it was.
I think many of them, once they knew, would stand proudly with those fighters of human rights.
I think for all of us, if we do not commemorate and we do not remember those who are willing to risk it all, it puts us all at risk of history forgetting the lessons that were there.
He went on to say, quote, the lesson to me, though, was when you watch these things happen, you can just justify and make up in your mind any reason possible that you didn't stand up or that something didn't happen and that no one remembered.
I think it's critically important globally that we mark this in the right tone.
We listen to the experts who were there before and after, the witnesses who were there, and then understand what the implications of this are.
Because I think many of us, as you know, for many people, it would just be convenient to just pretend it didn't happen.
Just pretend we moved on.
Just pretend for all involved.
But that's not what we can do.
That's not what the memory of those people that stood there deserve.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he's not in favor of killing people at Tiananmen Square.
This is fucking stupid shit that Alex is putting forth.
But you got to do something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that is a really good point.
I remember people asking about that photo, you know, the most famous photo, baby.
dan friesen
One of Jordan dunking on a tank.
jordan holmes
That was the one.
And they're like, so, you know, so then what happened?
Like, they didn't know, they were like, oh, so the tank stopped.
My friends?
No, no, But that's the interesting idea from the image: people like writing the next steps in their own head where the tanks are like, oh, I apologize.
dan friesen
Right.
The power of a human to stop a tank is what you want to take away from it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is not what you should.
dan friesen
But Walls, I mean, like, as somebody who has lived in China and has a connection to the people of China, I think he has a more thoughtful position on this than Alex.
And this cartoonish version that he's trying to paint is just dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not the way to go.
It's not the way to go.
Like, I don't, I mean, well, he was a coach at a high school, right?
dan friesen
Assistant coach.
Oh, maybe.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, man.
I mean, I guess remembering my days in high school sports and baseball and football and stuff like that, maybe you could catch him saying not nice things to kids.
That's probably as good as you're going to get.
unidentified
Sure.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, coaches are often a little mean.
jordan holmes
I got a lot of, I mean, there were a lot of words that were allowed to be thrown around back in those days that the coaches that I had did not seem to have qualms about.
So it's possible that that's there, but I'm not even saying that's there.
dan friesen
Well, here's what you didn't know about your coaches.
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
I all work for China.
jordan holmes
Oh, God damn it.
That makes so much sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's other attacks on the Harris campaign that Alex is trying to get to stick.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Kamala's new campaign slogan, strength through joy, is word for word the official Nazi party slogan.
Before he became the leader in 33, then it was Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer.
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer.
jordan holmes
A little different.
alex jones
People, one land, one leader.
Before that, it was strength through joy.
Now they're talking about strength through joy.
I mean, the twilight zonedness of this and Biden giving weird speeches at night with buildings lit up red with soldiers behind him.
I mean, this is not good stuff.
dan friesen
Strength through joy isn't a Harris campaign slogan.
She's talked about joy a bit in speeches and stuff, but this is just something that the right-wing groups have claimed as your slogan because it attaches to Nazi roots.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
This wasn't a Nazi slogan.
It was a department within the German Nazi government, which subsidized improvements to leisure centers.
It tried to boost tourism through things like resorts.
The idea was to project the middle-class image of leisure more broadly, which would then become accessible across class lines.
And it was something that was very useful for propaganda with the Nazi government.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway, it's not a Harris slogan, but if Alex wants to play this game, America First was the American fascist slogan chanted by Nazi sympathizers in World War II.
Drain the Swamp is a direct reference to Mussolini.
He should be asking more questions about this stuff if he cares.
jordan holmes
It is not good when you start looking into slogans because usually you're going to find somebody somewhere used it, and they were bad.
dan friesen
Especially if it's a good slogan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because a good slogan doesn't have a party.
A good slogan is just something people like to say to each other.
You don't have to be good or bad to be like, strength through joy.
Yeah, fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, America First makes sense as a slogan, and that's why some shitheads used it in the past.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the most important part of the slogan is the brevity, not the content.
dan friesen
So Alex wants to listen to a little Tucker clip.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
The crew does not find it.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
And Alex is really chill about it.
alex jones
Okay.
Let's just play this short little clip here, and then I'm going to reset and go to the bottom of the rabbit hole.
Why the system is doing this to understand why they're so ruthless, why they're so corrupt, why they're so evil.
But here's that clip from Tucker right there.
Stop right there.
It's no big deal.
That's the wrong clip.
I had told you guys I wanted SP1, and that's my fault.
And then I kind of changed gears and I kind of gave you a foreshadowing that I wanted to play this clip.
So let's take a few minutes.
Overhead shot.
I'll show you the clip because Tucker retweeted this last night.
And so I thought it was important to play this.
You see this right here?
And this is a one-minute, three-second clip, and it is on the list, or I know I sent it to you.
So we'll take some time and we'll find that clip.
Or if we don't have it, we will get it.
And we'll just relax here.
This is a good Sunday night.
It's an enjoyable Sunday night.
I reposted this on X, and I'd sent it, so I saw it in my stack.
I figured we had this.
But look, right, take the time, enjoy.
Because here's the deal.
I'm going to just relax here on the show these days.
We're in such a serious time.
I give the crew so many hundreds of things.
They do a great job trying to organize it all.
And we're going to play this clip.
dan friesen
That seems angrier to me than when he storms off the show.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's like such a coiled spring that's about to fucking lose it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would be so terrified of him if he's like, hey, we're having a relaxing Sunday.
jordan holmes
It's all good.
That type of boss that, like, yes, I know.
I told you to do this thing and you did it.
And you did it well.
But what you should have done is read my mind.
Intuit what it was that I was kind of implying I might have wanted.
And maybe if you had done that, I wouldn't have wanted it and I would be yelling at you for not playing the right clip.
So guess what?
You're always wrong.
dan friesen
And it's just a relaxing Sunday.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just relaxing.
dan friesen
We're having a good time here.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We're going to have a good time.
Just go ahead.
I'm going to just hate you forever.
dan friesen
Tucker posted this last night, so I think it's important that we follow his lead.
We have to post this thing because Tucker is setting the agenda for us.
jordan holmes
Is Tucker still doing the Twitter show?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I haven't watched in a while.
jordan holmes
I don't need it.
dan friesen
What was the last one I watched?
jordan holmes
Was it the Cat Turd?
dan friesen
Maybe.
No, no, because I think that the guy who claimed to have sex with Obama was after Cat Turd.
jordan holmes
Oh, also, I said cat turd, and I swear to God, I had a brief moment of like, is anything real?
Like, I said the word cat turd out loud and then decided that I wasn't sure if anything had ever been real.
dan friesen
Maybe we should check back in with Tucker.
I think after he went and talked to Putin, everything is kind of underwhelming.
You know, I think that kind of you go, you go, guy who had sex with Obama, can't turred over Putin.
And I think that at that point, you have to take a bow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you have to, I mean, I guess literally resurrect Chairman Mao for your next intermediate.
dan friesen
Or Tim Walz.
So this next clip, I think, is quite revealing for some of Alex's views.
alex jones
And again, they're using the non-white populations worldwide to teach them communism.
But because whether you're in India or whether you're in Latin America or whether you're, you know, people don't tend to buy into communism.
They know it doesn't work.
It works for the globalists, but not for the general public.
So instead, they found the 60s, 70s, and 80s, the Communist Party did here in America, this is on record, that they couldn't get black people, particularly, to become communist very, very often.
But if they made it racially based instead of class envy to accept communism, if they tied communist policies to racial issues, they could get a better percentage, still on a majority, of black folks to sign on.
And then separately, they can use white guilt and bullying whites through the corporate media.
If they don't get on board with globalist policies, communist policies, utilitarian policies, then they get lectured and told how bad and how evil they are.
And so that's how this works.
dan friesen
That's how it works.
jordan holmes
I think that whole word salad was the slogan of the JBS.
I want to say that was because they weren't good on brevity.
dan friesen
But that's not word salad, really.
Alex is concisely making the point that he wants to make.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's just that what it is is reflective of the intellectual tradition that he comes from, where it's not so much that communists have tricked racial groups into supporting communism.
It's that he...
jordan holmes
You've been tricked.
dan friesen
Every racial issue is secretly a communist issue.
Yeah.
And so that's kind of the approach and the way that you, you know, you have people opposing civil rights.
You have people opposing voting rights because you're telling them what you're doing is opposing communism.
And that's the way you trick yourself into thinking that you're not being racist when you're opposed to integration.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
A human being would be like, wait, Water fountains have to be different, but before you get there, somebody's like, communists.
And you're like, okay, fine, water fountains have to be different.
dan friesen
This is a communist plot.
And if we don't fight this battle here, we're going to be fighting it when they try to take your land away.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Private property is.
jordan holmes
So, yeah, you're human.
I agree.
We shouldn't have different water fountains.
But obviously, we have to have different water fountains.
And you agree with that.
dan friesen
That's just the way it is.
Oh, my God.
Is any of this real?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's, I really think that clip is very helpful to hear somebody say in 2024.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is really, it really is nuts.
Because you, what was the book, that Revilo book that you had?
Well, yeah, there's any number of them.
But the chapter you pulled out, I remember you opening the page and I was like, I don't even want to look at that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Christ.
dan friesen
Yeah, a lot of those guys who were the intellectual cornerstones of some of this shit that Alex is into, they were a little bit clearer.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is trying to play the same game in the present.
It sucks.
jordan holmes
Gross.
dan friesen
So I was like, hey, it's the night before the DNC gets kicked off.
We're not talking a whole lot about the DNC.
It should be the biggest thing because the devil is more or less going to be revealed here.
Michelle Obama is going to lay waste to the party and claim her place for Obama's fourth term.
jordan holmes
How would that even, what would that look like in reality?
Like, what does that look like in a practical logistical sense?
dan friesen
A lot of confused people.
alex jones
Right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of people are like, what?
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
So I was shocked that there was very little talk about this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But then we get a little.
alex jones
We've got more on the DNC coming up.
They've got mobile abortion and vasectomy trucks.
I'm not kidding.
There's video of it.
But first, I want to get into Tim Walz and his clear evidence that he's a communist Chinese agent, not just on their payroll.
This guy's a spy.
You think about Swallowswell and Feinstein and all of them.
I mean, it's just, it's, and what was on the laptop where Hunter's like, I work for the head of Chinese intelligence.
And he's disappeared.
And I don't know what to do.
This is not a joking matter, ladies and gentlemen.
This is not like, oh, we're calling them communists because that hurts them.
No, they are.
They are totalitarians using communist tactics.
dan friesen
I like how Alex has to try and reassure himself that we're not just throwing around these accusations in vain.
And the fact that he throws around this very extreme shit, like so liberally, he has to try and self-soothe himself to be like, I'm not minimizing the seriousness of my attacks by throwing them everywhere.
No, this is serious.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
This is real.
He's a Chinese spy.
jordan holmes
I'm a serious person.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, sure, he's been the governor of one of our states for quite some time.
So if he were a Chinese agent, it feels like he would have already done enough damage or some damage cover.
Noticeable damage at the very least.
But nope, you didn't even really know that he was the governor until now.
dan friesen
The CCP had a very strong interest in who won state in football.
And so he was a deep cover for many years.
jordan holmes
That would explain why I was all conference, but I didn't make all states.
So that actually makes a lot more sense.
Now, yeah.
dan friesen
How's the Chinese government holding you back?
jordan holmes
Oh, God, that makes so much sense.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't know.
I think there's something really funny, though, about just the like, I'm serious this time kind of dynamic.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
You're even less serious now.
dan friesen
You can keep saying it, though.
So Alex plays a bit of Michael Savage of the Savage Nation.
I'll explain on the other side of this.
There's a weird narrative that's afoot.
They're really mad at Kamala Harris supporting anti-price gouging legislation.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's inexplicable.
dan friesen
They're struggling with that.
michael savage
This is Michael Savage on the Friday afternoon edition of The Savage Nation.
Today I'm going to talk with you about the Stalinist regime that is waiting in the wings to destroy America and imprison the population.
Now, you may say that's a little histrionic and it can't happen here.
And I would say.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Stop him.
alex jones
Stop him.
I'm going to make one more comment.
I'm going to go ahead and play five minutes of this, but I'm going to repost this on X, post it like last night.
I'm going to repost this with the top of my Red Ox Jones.
You can watch it.
Listen, because this guy's super smart.
And you heard Trump.
He says she wants to destroy it on purpose.
So he did go there, but he didn't elaborate.
Savage in this 15 minutes explains it, and he's a historian.
He's in the research, probably more than I have, and I'm getting chills right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, there's Democrats all the place saying they're going to put us in camps.
They built COVID camps as to cover.
Raskin says they're going to have a civil war.
Do you understand they're planning this?
They're going to do a big-ass cyber attack and take us all off the air.
We've got 78 days left of the election, and then 79 to that.
And I feel sick just sitting here waiting for it to happen.
There needs to be absolute total urgency.
Hurt Naomi Wool, former top Democrat strategist, said they got foreign troops from China, martial law, arrest everybody, totally take over.
jordan holmes
And she's a little bit of a little bit of a drink.
alex jones
She's smart.
Her husband's been an intelligence operative in the military.
He's the one telling her all this.
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
So this is ironic because before Trump twisted all these little idiots' minds, Alex routinely accused Savage of promoting rounding up Bush's political enemies and putting them in FEMA camps.
It's almost like these extreme accusations he makes have no connection to reality.
Maybe it's just his inner monologue.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
A large part of this episode is Alex opposing proposed anti-price gouging legislation, saying any kind of price fixing is communism.
This is a classic no-lose situation if you're Alex, because he doesn't actually really care about the issue.
He just cares about using it to attack the government.
When there's price gouging, corporations make a ton of money by screwing people over, and Alex can get on the soapbox and demand the government do something about it so these greedy corporations can't exploit the population.
When there's an attempt by the government to do something that would prevent price gouging, he gets to yell about how any attempt to solve the issue is an evil, tyrannical plot, in effect working to make sure that the problem of price gouging is never actually addressed.
You might notice that no matter what, if things go the way Alex wants, his actions and rhetoric serve the interests of big business.
And that is not a coincidence.
Also, Naomi Wolf's husband should probably be arrested if what Alex is saying is true.
He's disseminating confidential information to his wife, who's then telling Alex Jones, which doesn't seem cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know if that's allowed.
I feel like it's not, but boy, I don't know anymore.
dan friesen
And Alex is real cool about protecting his sources and stuff like that.
You can really see it in moments like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to tell you who my source is and then exactly why her husband shouldn't be allowed to do this.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, I like it.
So a large part of the show is really trying to thread the needle of this legislation is communism.
And it's not really, there's no traction to it.
It's not interesting.
jordan holmes
Nah, price gouging is price gouging.
Everybody's fine with not doing that.
dan friesen
Except for Alex.
jordan holmes
Except for Alex.
Except for weird nonsense.
You have to twist your own brain so into such strange dimensions in order to get to like, yeah, corporations should absolutely steal from you.
Stealing is fine.
dan friesen
It's their right to, and the market will correct for this.
Companies that steal from you will not succeed because people won't like them or whatever.
I mean, it's not a coincidence that Fred Koch was one of the founding members of the John Birch Society and that all their recruiting was from the National Association of Manufacturers.
jordan holmes
So weird.
dan friesen
This is part of that that still lingers with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we've got Tim Walz, Chinese spy.
That's one thing that's clearly Alex is pushing pretty hard.
jordan holmes
That should be his title.
Tim Walz, Chinese spy.
dan friesen
When he speaks at the DNC, probably will.
They'll just come out with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just, yeah, let's just be open.
dan friesen
So that's one thing that's going on, but there's another thing, and that is monkeypox.
alex jones
And they're so arrogant.
But for those of us that are awake, we know monkeypox is a fraud.
We know this stuff's all a scam.
We predicted it would come.
It happened right on time.
We got big news on that coming up at Recover Waltz.
But still a large portion of the public, they believe whatever they're told.
They go out and get 10 booster shots till they die.
And they're just rolling it out.
I mean, I've been telling you for years, right before the next general election, they're going to launch monkeypox and bird flu.
And they've done both.
And it's not even hard to predict it.
They got all their war games that they put out two years ago predicting for the election they would do this.
Dr. David Martin's done a great job breaking it down.
And then Reuters counters saying no evidence that the 2021 nuclear threat initiative exercise proves Monkey Pox outbreak was planned.
They do all these fake newscasts and war games at the UN global level predicting exactly what's happening now, just like the SPARS plan, just like Event 201, just like Operation Lockstep.
I want to show people overhead shot, please.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So this is from a 2021 exercise titled Strengthening Global Systems to Prevent and Respond to High Consequence Biological Threats.
In the exercise scenario, a terrorist group steals a strain of monkeypox from a lab and uses it to attack a neighboring country that they have long-standing hostilities with.
This spreads to the world and ultimately kills 270 million people.
jordan holmes
Fuck me.
dan friesen
The idea of the scenario is to look at this kind of horrible but possible event and see where there are failures in preparation.
I think that this genre of planning exercise is like it's really interesting.
And in my experience, the lessons derived from them are not often fully implemented as maybe they should be.
But I'm so bored of how Alex uses this shit.
It's just so exploitative and boring.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's low effort conspiracy.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just tabletop gaming is hard to be intimidated by now.
I imagine it was, I imagine like the idea of people like role-playing this kind of scenario is a lot scarier to a generation that's not fully 100% like playing Boulder's Gate 3 right now.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe, but I think even if you understand what it is, if you just understand what the source material that's being used is, it should take away some of the mystique.
It's like asking yourself what you'll need when you get somewhere before you go.
It's preparation.
I'll need a snack.
Oh, I can't think of that.
jordan holmes
So let's war games this trip we're taking.
It's going to be a long walk.
Should we wear shoes?
Yeah.
Oh, Alex says no.
Alex says no shoes.
dan friesen
Don't plan.
jordan holmes
Shoes are for communists.
dan friesen
Don't think about it.
Because if you do, then you're just trying to hurt my foot.
So this same group, the Nuclear Threat Initiative, did a tabletop exercise the next year about a possible outbreak of the Ahmeda virus.
In 2019, they did one about the mnemonic plague breaking out in a country with weak centralized government and terrorist instability.
These aren't expressions of the plans that globalists have.
It's a way that experts and people in leadership roles can expand their awareness of how to respond to an emergency situation before an emergency happens.
Once it's started, it's too late.
You cannot plan once the emergency has happened.
And guess what?
You don't plan, you're going to learn some of the same lessons that you would in a tabletop exercise, except the consequences will be much worse.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you're learning on the fly.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's listen, I don't like, it's trite, but we played the board game pandemic quite a few times in 2018 and 2019.
Suddenly stopped.
Never played again.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
Weird how that happened.
dan friesen
So the WHO has announced that monkeypox or MPox is now a global health emergency.
That did happen recently.
And that means that it's spreading, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to panic.
This declaration was made in 2022 and people responded with appropriate caution.
And so it didn't become a pandemic on the level of COVID.
Regardless of how things progress from here, the situation isn't really comparable because monkeypox isn't a new condition and doctors are well versed in how to deal with it.
COVID was a novel condition, which compounded the threat that it posed as a global pandemic.
Awareness of the situation and exercising caution is the appropriate thing to do for this almost everywhere that Alex could possibly be broadcasting to and not panicking about it or thinking that it's fake or some sort of global control scheme.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's nonsense.
I get the color coding, you know, that method of like, oh, we're at an orange threat level or whatever it is, as long as I have any idea of what your color's actual threat means.
But for some reason, when you call it a global health emergency, I get why people can panic.
It sounds emergency is a dangerous word, you know, but it's, but what are they supposed to call it?
Like, bad thing, responsible people are responsibly responding.
You know, like, how do you, how do you correctly or like non-panic point out that there is a thing, but responsible people do exist and they are taking the appropriate measures.
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's so hard because we've gone for a few years without that experience.
dan friesen
But honestly, I think that global health emergency, public health emergency is the right way to go about it.
Right.
But just understanding what that means is be aware of the situation and manage your risk appropriately.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, like it's not, it's not like flashing red lights going off.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's like the responsible thing to do is just to not have a person being like, emergency means they're killing you.
dan friesen
Right.
The irresponsible thing is not what Alex is doing.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's to be like, hey, it's an emergency.
People are handling it.
Just like how the emergency room, you don't have to worry that it's going to spill over into your house.
dan friesen
Right.
And the emergency room would be incredibly uneffective if everyone was running around in it.
unidentified
Like all the doctors were freaking out.
jordan holmes
And boxes everywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They did a tabletop exercise called medical school prior to this, where they learned about.
Anyway, that was very good.
Harrison Walls.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
They probably put a gun to Biden's head.
jordan holmes
That sounds true.
And made him scare Harrison Walls dead.
alex jones
Yep.
Yep.
We started hearing weeks ago when she became her VP pick.
Remember, neither he nor she got one vote in the primary.
We know Biden stole the election, but you could still have some shrink debate on it.
jordan holmes
No, you can't.
alex jones
But he's supposedly the president.
Well, they just remove him.
He has a medical emergency.
He's gone for seven, eight days, shows up all drugged out.
Basically admits the Democrats removed him.
I mean, did they put a gun to his head?
It'll be your brains for a signature on this piece of paper?
Like the Godfather?
Give him an off, he can't refuse.
And they just tried to kill Trump, what, 37 days ago?
I mean, do you see where we are?
There's a normalcy bias of everybody.
I think we're in normal times.
No, we're not in Kansas.
dan friesen
We definitely aren't.
The globalists tried to shoot Trump, which is an unfounded statement that Alex is making.
jordan holmes
We're in Pennsylvania.
dan friesen
By virtue of that, they probably put a gun to Biden's head and made him another Young Reviews, which is a great, it's a great Wall's impression.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is pretty good.
That is pretty good.
I mean, once you have this guy stole the election, you can't then be like, but nobody else got votes.
It's like, no, it doesn't matter.
dan friesen
It's a bizarre level of split experience.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
They stole it.
She could have gotten all the votes.
It doesn't matter.
I don't even know what your point is.
It's just that guy stole it.
dan friesen
If this is like, okay, we have an essentially stolen election.
She could do that too if you wanted.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
It doesn't.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Do this again.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Well, there's no difference.
jordan holmes
She doesn't need votes.
She can steal it and you'll be fine with it because he stole it.
So she's just stealing it from him.
Your problem is the stealing, not the like she didn't get enough votes.
dan friesen
Yeah, it reveals that your problem is an illusion.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Unfortunately.
So I was thinking about this.
Tim Wallace is a Chinese spy thing.
And Alex keeps insisting that he's going to get to some like real meat.
Sure.
And this is just nothing.
This is so, oh, God.
It's just frustratingly thin.
alex jones
So he goes to college in the 80s and he gets his degree and he joins the Confucian Society, which is admitted communist Chinese government run.
They're an outlaw in the U.S. going back five years ago, six years ago, the middle of Trump's term, admitted, run by the Chinese government.
And then he goes and basically lives there.
We got a clip of him saying that.
At first, it was 18 trips, then 23 trips, then 36 trips.
And now it's like, well, he lived there.
And he's probably a double agent because he'd be given extended leave and stuff to go, you know, stay there for three, four months.
I mean, weirdness, folks, but he's clearly working for them.
So now these newspaper articles come out because a week ago, the students were going public, doing interviews, being interviewed by newspapers, saying, look, he promoted Mao.
He said Tiananmen Square was good they killed those people.
He is a hardcore Maoist.
He has a collection of Mao memorabilia.
He gives everybody little red books and says you should follow them.
I mean, this is empty red books.
Even to the communist Chinese, they've rejected most of them.
Diji Ping's gone back to some of it.
But just in, Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz, again, supports a guy that killed over 80 million of his own people.
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, the Democrat presidential candidate, Kamala Harris running mate, had a friend in China's foreign affairs department because it's not just the students saying it now.
They found the news articles.
We got a whole bunch of them.
And the Chinese government, their State Department, used him as an agent to run a whole bunch of trips into China through the Confucian Center.
So that right there, you're a communist Chinese agent.
Then he talks about all the wonderful gifts the Chinese communists gave him and how wonderful it was and told his students and told the groups he led, you're going to get a lot of free stuff.
So much stuff you, quote, can't even carry it all home.
dan friesen
So that whole gifts thing there that Alex is talking about is from an Alliance Times Herald article from September 13th, 1990.
And it's all about how his students gave him gifts like a hand fan.
That article literally ends saying, quote, Walls feels the Chinese have been mistreated and cheated by their government for years.
If they had proper leadership, there's no limits on what they could accomplish, he stated.
They're such kind people.
They just gave and gave and gave to me.
Going there was one of the best things I have ever done.
So it seems like he was talking about loving the people while at the same time voicing clear opposition to the government.
So this doesn't feel like it fits with Alex's picture, but I mean, who cares, honestly?
He taught in China, so fuck it.
He's a spy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I would be interested to have like a straight up now.
Okay.
What does a hardcore Maoist look like in 2024?
You have to give me attributes, actual beliefs that somebody who is a hardcore Maoist folksy.
dan friesen
Midwestern.
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
Who cares?
This doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes
I mean, if any hardcore Maoist could somehow project this level of Midwesternness, they've got it made.
You know, like, that is a perfect spy.
dan friesen
You probably high-five his wife.
jordan holmes
He's so goddamn Midwestern.
You know what?
dan friesen
Here's the other thing.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
If he is a Chinese spy who's under deep cover, you would think he would be like, hey, honey, don't say you like burning tires.
jordan holmes
Integrate better, I guess.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So suspicious.
jordan holmes
Keep your head down.
dan friesen
You'd think.
But I guess you could just, I mean, it's just what out.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
It's too absurd to be an attack.
dan friesen
But it's interesting to see the way that Alex is trying to find the thing that'll stick.
You have the stolen valor.
You have the various sort of cultural grievance complaints that he has.
And now going real hard on the Chinese spy thing.
And I think it'll be as effective as anything else, which is not very.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, they're going through all the attacks that have stuck in the past.
They're like cycling through them like a Rolodex, like, not this one, not this one, not this one.
But yeah, they got it.
It doesn't seem like they've got it in their because really, like, the attacks they could have are attacks on themselves.
You know, like anything that you'd be like, oh, he's an out-of-touch old white guy.
And then it's like, well, shit.
dan friesen
His policies are actually a little bit towards the middle.
Yeah, shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck.
People are projecting a false image.
Oh, fuck.
Damn it.
I mean, he's just another politician.
dan friesen
Shit.
Wow.
So we have one last clip here, and Alex plays a little clip of Walls.
Actually, two clips.
They're supposed to demonstrate his spy-ishness.
I just think this isn't going to work.
alex jones
So let's go ahead and play these two newest clips of him talking about living in China.
unidentified
Now, I happen to be and understand a little about China and lived in China and speak Chinese.
I'm pretty friendly with China.
Staff school will say, someone who's been in Congress, sets someone who's been in elected office for 25 years, or set someone who's your neighbor who's been teaching your kids and been serving in the guard unit and has been fostering cooperation amongst people in China and the United States on their own.
Understanding that these are the things that tie us together.
alex jones
Totally sick, ladies.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
alex jones
So he is a communist Chinese agent.
100%.
And if you're a loyal, good American who doesn't commit crime and works hard, you're the enemy.
dan friesen
I just feel like even Alex's heart's not in it that much coming out of that clip.
You could tell that he felt like he was forcing it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking proved he's a Chinese spy.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, because it's kind of like Alex's entire ethos should be like, hey, governments are bad.
People are great.
So anybody who's like, Chinese government, bad.
Chinese people, great.
That's the same thing Alex has always said about the American government versus the American people.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
But the picture that Alex is painting selectively edits out the parts where Walls has been critical of the Chinese government.
So you can pretend that when he says stuff like, I like, I'm a friend of, I'm friendly with China, you can pretend that he's not saying that about people.
He's saying that about the government.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And that's how you get across these images, these false images.
And I think this, I don't know, it's a push.
jordan holmes
It's weak.
dan friesen
He's pushing pretty hard.
jordan holmes
I think, yeah, I mean, it's either you have to go lower or higher.
Whatever energy they're at right now is in the middle, and it can't.
This is absurd, but it's like it's absurd in the way that it used to be, where you're like, oh, John Kerry, we've done that before.
So now you got to escalate.
You got to give me something more.
Not only is he a Chinese agent, he is an alien.
And I'm not talking about not from here.
I mean, he is not from this planet.
dan friesen
But that's what Alex tries to do.
He says that everybody's working for the devil.
That doesn't work either.
jordan holmes
That's just or but.
dan friesen
There isn't an escalation from here.
jordan holmes
But if you go low, again, you're just indicting yourself.
Like, it's, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there is a difficulty that Alex finds himself in.
And I can't sort of untangle this from the fact that this is the night before the DNC starts.
This is supposed to be this big moment when there's a conflagration of some sort, whether it's assassinations or whether it's Michelle Obama taking over the party.
There's something that's supposed to be happening.
And that time has come, right?
And it's going to be a letdown for Alex.
And the only thing he can do is like, well, Walls went to China.
unidentified
And it feels just a dud.
jordan holmes
It feels like a dud.
I told you this not too long ago, but I'd spent probably the last two years working on a book, right?
And I had to throw it all away.
Because essentially, I had written myself into a corner.
And all that work, no matter how much I tried to mold it into something, it was never going to be what it should be or what it needed to be, right?
So I just had to scrap it.
I couldn't do anything with it.
That's where Alex is.
He's just got to scrap this.
Like, there's no way to mold it into where you need it to go.
You got to start from scratch.
dan friesen
He does need to discharge a lot of stuff.
But I don't think he can.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And that trap is very interesting to see a person be in.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is luxury to not have to tell people you've been working on something for two years and then you throw it away.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Especially when that thing that you're working on is supposed to be the truth about reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And how God told you to do stuff and you're fighting the devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't really.
You'd have to like straight up.
dan friesen
That's tough.
jordan holmes
You have to go to jail, basically, to do a reinvention on that level, right?
alex jones
You have to know if that works.
jordan holmes
No, you're right.
Well, I mean, it's like the Wolf of Wall Street guy couldn't just go straight to like, and now I'm a Christian, so everything's fine.
He had to do some time.
And then after he did time, then you can do the Christian reawakening.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's like you have to go to jail, but you do have to disappear.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a version of that.
dan friesen
Yeah, you need to, you know, you can't be, you know, if there's a wrestler, let's say, and their character is not working, it just kind of sucks.
People aren't enjoying it.
There's no crowd reaction.
That guy's got to go away and come back with a new character.
That time away is essential.
And that's what Alex needs to do.
He needs to go away, come back yelling about the Fed.
jordan holmes
You Jesus it.
40 days, 40 nights, my man.
Disappear 40 days, 40 nights.
Let people know I'm in the desert having a vision quest.
Boom.
Come back.
You got a new idea.
dan friesen
How fucked up would it be, too, if it was right before the election?
Because this is this period of time where Alex, you know, you'd think he'd be there on the ball.
If he just mysteriously disappears, Chase Geyser takes over his show.
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
There's something that.
jordan holmes
The meteoric return would be like people would even have countdowns and shit.
Once they figured out, oh, he's doing the Jesus.
We've got 10 more days.
People would fucking, it would get buzzed.
dan friesen
I think it's the best thing for him to do, but can't do it.
Probably not.
Anyway, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
We've got to stop giving people great ideas.
dan friesen
It's all from wrestling too, basically.
The world is so pro-wrestling shit.
Why not use some of the other tropes?
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, you've already got Hulk Hogan at your conference.
Might as well lean in.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll see if they do that.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do at SnowlitzFight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo Omeo I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
alex jones
Yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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