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Aug. 19, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#955: August 13, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to see the fallout of the big Elon/Trump interview, which is mostly telling stories about people giving him money at cafes, being disgusting while misreporting stories involving migrant crime, and once again cracking the Trump assassination plot wide open.

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alex jones
24:13
d
dan friesen
41:11
j
jordan holmes
22:15
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:01
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andy in kansas
00:00
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alex jones
knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
It's time to pray.
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Not, not, not, not, not, not, not, not knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is drums.
My bright spot is drums, my man.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
So I was looking around, found this series of videos on Drumeo.
Or whatever it's called.
And they have all these really, really great drummers.
And they'll bring them in and they'll play them a song without a drum track.
They'll play them a popular song or whatever it is.
And they'll have them write a drum track for it.
So it's like...
It's why I love drumming and drummers so much is because there really is, for a drummer, there's only two types of music.
There's the groove and then there's no groove.
dan friesen
The groove's in the heart.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so all of these drummers are listening to this stuff that they would never otherwise listen to.
Right?
Writing their own parts and then bringing what they've got to it.
So you've got a draz drummer listening to some sort of metal and then they'll add like a swing to it that you would never hear otherwise.
dan friesen
See, that's interesting.
I was thinking that the conclusion is going to be that they end up recreating something shockingly close to the original drum track.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
Like there is a correct way for the drums to go.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Absolutely not.
No, there's an infinite number of...
And then...
But so then...
The coolest thing happens is then it takes you to my favorite metal drummers because metal drummers just think in polyrhythms.
And there's this video of Danny Carey from Tool, which I hadn't listened to Tool for like 15, 20 years, which was awesome.
But he was playing, they've got a live show where they've got the camera just on him.
Playing Numa, which is like a 12-minute long song, and it is one of the most technically perfect and beautiful drum...
Like, you have to see it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It is incredible.
dan friesen
That sounds exhausting.
jordan holmes
It is so exhausting.
You have no idea.
You can't even...
Like, I genuinely couldn't begin to describe to you exactly what he does and how brilliant it is.
dan friesen
This can really get to you because you're a drummer, but I think for me, I got this out of my system when I watched Rush do YYZ.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so I could watch Neil Peart hit those skins.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And maybe that was enough for me.
jordan holmes
I understand what you're saying, but there's just no way really to describe the levels of technical...
Drumming that are happening right now.
And there's so many cool techniques, and now people have tablets where they're writing down a tablature as they're listening.
It's incredible.
When I was starting, it was sometimes surprising for people to be like, you can read music?
And now if you can't read music, quit.
Get out of there.
Shit.
Get out of there.
It is so fun.
dan friesen
You've got to know the clef.
jordan holmes
It's so fun.
It's so fun.
dan friesen
Bass clef, treble clef, Y clef.
jordan holmes
Oh, Jean-Luc Picard.
dan friesen
Well, that's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
So my bright spot, I'll do a follow-up on our last episode.
I watched the first episode of The Challenge.
jordan holmes
Ah!
dan friesen
And very exciting.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
But I have a cheers and jeers.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
Cheers to a lot of the dynamics they're setting up on this season.
unidentified
Fantastic.
dan friesen
There are a lot of people who have a lot of old business with each other.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
That could get very explosive.
jordan holmes
So great.
dan friesen
Jeers to a premiere episode with no eliminations in it.
They did not eliminate anybody.
unidentified
That is true.
dan friesen
They did not do any of the challenges.
We left on a cliffhanger, and I think that's bullshit.
If you're gonna do that, you need to have two-episode premiere.
They need to have...
You can't leave me hanging like this.
jordan holmes
I can't disagree with you on any count.
You nailed it.
100% correct.
dan friesen
Who are you pulling for this season other than CT?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Fat CT has returned, which I love.
I love the return of Fat CT.
dan friesen
Dad CT.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
He went there, then he got ripped to start a movie, and now here we are.
I love it.
Fantastic.
I'm back from the traitors.
Devin?
Devin had an all-time challenge moment in that episode.
When he decided to swim and didn't lose...
Nah.
Nailed it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And then, you know, I'm gonna say it.
There's nothing I quite love as much as Laurel really pissing off Cara Maria over and over and over again by just being a little bit better than her.
dan friesen
Just a little bit?
jordan holmes
Just a little bit better.
Not a ton?
dan friesen
Cara Maria is good at what she does.
unidentified
She's great!
dan friesen
But not...
jordan holmes
Not good enough.
dan friesen
I think the dynamic of Cara Maria having Pauly there against Laurel is gonna be...
Gonna be rough.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Her having support is not good.
dan friesen
I'm rooting for Leroy, as I often do.
jordan holmes
I think he's actually bad, though.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
I think he's...
No, no, no, no.
I mean, I've always...
No, I'm always rooting for Leroy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But even on the last season, Killer Cam was the one who was doing everything, and Leroy kind of is bad at it.
dan friesen
Maybe he's due for a resurgence.
jordan holmes
He is.
dan friesen
He could...
And then, of course, Horacio and Norris...
unidentified
Love them.
dan friesen
Gotta pull for love.
jordan holmes
They are my...
They are my shining star.
They're my north star.
They are who I want to follow in the apocalypse.
dan friesen
So yeah, exciting.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
We've got an episode to go over today, Jordan.
We're going to be talking about August 13th, 2024.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
That is the day after the interview with Elon Musk and Trump.
jordan holmes
The fallout.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
On our last episode, we covered Alex's coverage of that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And it was so boring.
Like, honestly, the interview was boring, and you could tell that Alex himself was bored.
And so I wanted to see the next day if he owned up to the fact that, like, that was not what I wanted.
He literally said, this is not what I want it to be.
He was yelling about horse semen throughout most of it.
It's just a disaster.
And so I thought, yeah, let's see where he's at.
So we'll check in on that.
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, what's the plan for episode 1000?
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
We're probably going to skip it.
jordan holmes
Same thing as 900, 800, 700, 600, and five.
dan friesen
Probably.
Next, am I the only one surprised that Alex hasn't created his own alcohol brand yet?
Free speech sippin'.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
He did have an American booze that he would promote for a while, but it was clearly just like he was taking a cut.
It wasn't like an Infowars spirit.
jordan holmes
It was branding.
dan friesen
Spirit of 1776.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
Next, Ambidextrous Orca.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And Dan is to Jordan as Goblin is to Hobgoblin.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too.
Jose Monsanto and Kevin from Bangladesh have got together and started a breakfast cereal business, and business is good.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Now, Together in that is the number two, and then Gather.
And that really threw me for a loop, because it made me think of the Limp Bizkit and Method Man song in Together Now.
jordan holmes
They had a song together.
dan friesen
They did.
Method Man was on a Limp Bizkit track.
jordan holmes
I'm glad.
I'm sure everybody feels great about that now.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
It holds up.
jordan holmes
I bet!
dan friesen
I listened to it the other day while working out.
Because I was like, oh, that existed.
That was strange.
And then also, that spelling is also...
Do you remember that boy band parody show together to get her?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
With Chris Farley's brother?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I haven't thought about that in years.
dan friesen
No, but I saw that spelling of together.
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that didn't even occur to me.
Because I was obviously the person who copied and pasted it into that email.
dan friesen
These are probably people from that show.
jordan holmes
Wow.
That must be.
There's only one conclusion I can come to.
dan friesen
Or it's Method Man and Fritters.
So we start off the show and Alex is ruminating on the interview.
And how many people watched it?
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
We're coming to you from the embattled Infowars studios in Central Texas, transmitting worldwide to conservatively.
Ten million people that will tune into the main show today conservatively.
Another 30, 40 million will watch clips of the show.
That's a great blessing.
But last night, and I confirmed the numbers, I went and looked.
The main show with Elon Musk, the two-hour interview with Musk and Trump.
Got over a billion clicks.
That's not views.
That's not just looking at it on the screen or going past it.
A billion people clicked on it.
And the numbers are coming out that the average time spent listening on there was over an hour.
For those that don't know, if you've got people listening to radio for 20 minutes, that's great.
That's time spent listening.
dan friesen
You know, when it's Elon Musk interviewing Trump for two hours, if your average viewing is an hour, then it's people who did not watch the whole thing.
alex jones
Yeah!
dan friesen
So what Alex is saying is based on Elon tweeting, quote, combined views of the conversation with Donald Trump and subsequent discussion by other accounts now around 1 billion.
This is a very deceptive stat, and it's being used by Alex to pretend that a billion people watched this interview.
The tweet that Elon is basing his statement on is from the company he owns, saying, quote, Between 7.47 p.m. and 10.47 p.m. Eastern, President Donald Trump's post received 73 million views.
During this same period, there were 4 million posts about Elon Musk and President Trump's conversation on X, generating a total of 998 million views.
To me, that sounds like people talking shit about your conversation got way, way more views than the conversation itself, but that's probably a bad way to market this in hindsight, especially when it was so fucking boring.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But more importantly, Alex is just lying to inflate the statistics of this incredibly boring interview.
We watched it with him.
We know he just started yelling about horse semen halfway through it.
And he was so bored and just worried that Trump would defend the vaccine or say something inconvenient about Ukraine or something.
This is sad.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But then I wonder if all four million of those posters realize that they've just wasted, like, their lives.
You know?
Because that was a real waste of everybody.
dan friesen
Until it happened, it was only a potential waste.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
But you'd think for, like, in a vacuum, these are two of the most powerful, or like...
Not powerful.
I mean, like, individuals with agency.
You know, like, Biden is the president, and he's very powerful, but he's got all these, like, hurdles to, like, before he can actually press a button or whatever.
Elon Musk is ostensibly able to press any button he wants.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, and Trump has the ability to January 6th you at any time.
dan friesen
Those are very serious types of power.
And the two of them were sitting there talking.
It has a lot of potential.
jordan holmes
They're just so boring.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
That's what it turns out.
jordan holmes
I get why people followed Napoleon.
He's a bad guy, but man, at least he did something.
dan friesen
So with the content being as kind of blah as it was, really all you have to hang your hat on is a lot of people.
There's a lot of numbers here.
We pushed some numbers.
alex jones
But a billion people.
Clicked on it and put today's show headline up because I wrote it just like 15 minutes ago.
We'll put it on screen.
Tuesday Live, Elon Musk Trump interview reaches over a billion people devastating MSM like a giant asteroid killing the dinosaurs.
Must watch Alex Jones show.
Now look, the corporate media is propped up but there's thousands of channels.
TV and radio and print, and so they're still able to all put out the same message at once and still have some effect.
But by themselves, they have no power.
CNN's biggest shows have a million viewers.
I can shoot a video in my backyard and do it all the time, and it gets, you know, 3 million views, 5 million, 10 million.
I mean, most of them, a million views.
You can literally just sit there, get out of bed, shoot a video, a million views, like, piece of cake.
I promote it, 10 million.
unidentified
So...
alex jones
Again, and I'm just one person, so with a phone or a laptop or a desktop, I can reach more people and never get out of my pajamas.
Of course, I don't wear pajamas, but that's kind of a northern thing down here.
But I get it.
You're freezing up in Minnesota to wear pajamas.
In Texas, we sleep naked.
Just a little secret.
But at least I do.
I go commando in the bed.
But I'm digressing.
No.
This is a huge, huge deal.
dan friesen
That you sleep naked?
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
He has nothing.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
This is not a person who's like, we fucking changed the game last night with this interview.
Elon tweeted about how random people talking shit about the interview got a billion views.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm so bored even by this, I'm going to talk about how I sleep nude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep.
What's not being said is probably the greatest indictment of what is happening.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So what Alex is saying also just isn't true.
Very rarely does anything he posts on band.video get a million views, and a ton of the shows on there, other than his, they routinely get under 10,000, which is bad numbers for how popular he claims to be.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I guess he's talking probably about his Twitter feed, but that's not accurate about his numbers there either.
He has 2.7 million followers, but when he posts the feeds to his show, they end up getting like 100,000 views, and that's not even how many people watched it.
That's how many people saw the tweet with a link to the feed in it.
For instance, his show for Friday's link, his live show link on that, got 93,000 views on Twitter and only 753 likes.
The engagement there is not really high.
Alex is massively overstating his reach and popularity, and this is an issue that being back on Twitter has really exacerbated.
He's always lied about how many radio stations he's on and stuff like that, but the immediate feedback of social media and the ability to spam posts and interact with other popular accounts is really something that he's gotten lost in.
And it's just kind of sad to see.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a disease.
It is.
A lot of people, you know, anybody's really susceptible to it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and thinking that those numbers necessarily mean anything is basically how so many media entities have overcommitted to video.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
They've been to video.
Hooray!
dan friesen
Shit like that has really had bad consequences, and Alex is...
In the same kind of mindset, think these numbers mean anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, chasing numbers instead of making good stuff.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
It is a problem.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that's a problem we've dealt with our entire lives.
dan friesen
So Alex is just like, you know, we got these big numbers.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who doesn't?
CNN.
He's just obsessed with how, like, few people are watching CNN.
jordan holmes
Weird.
alex jones
When I was on a Spaces with Elon, and I've been on some others as well, but we interviewed each other for over two hours.
It got 25 million live, and then the derivatives and versions of it, you couldn't even count it.
I mean, 100 million, very conservative number.
I mean, just on my channel, clips we put out reached like 30, 40 million conservatively.
I mean, very conservatively.
So I can't keep track of it.
It's everywhere.
It's still everywhere.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So imagine what that means, that CNN has thousands of employees.
It's well over 1,000 still, even though they're downsized.
And contractors.
I mean, just CNN in the U.S., I think International's even bigger.
Guys, look up how many employees CNN globally has.
And I know it's thousands.
So, big, huge buildings all over the world, thousands of employees, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of writers and reporters, and their top shows might hit a million.
Put that in context, Lou Dobbs would have 15 million viewers back in his heyday on CNN.
Of course, he ran CNN, too.
He wasn't just the top host.
So he knew what to do programming-wise.
He had debates, liberal and conservative, and libertarian.
But I digress.
What I'm saying here is, when you have weekend at Bernie's and you're kind of carrying a dead body around, people finally figure out it's a dead body.
Well, the corporate media has been dead for a long time.
dan friesen
So, what Alex is saying just isn't true.
In his later years, in like 2019, Dobbs would be the most popular business show on cable news for 40 months straight, averaging 287,000 viewers.
He was the centerpiece of Fox News' business content, and then he got fired in 2021 because he was named in that whole Smartmatic defamation lawsuit.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Kind of fucked that one up.
unidentified
Sure!
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So Dobbs had a long history at CNN prior to this, and it's pretty difficult to figure out exactly how many viewers he had in the distant past, but from a number of sources I was able to find, it's generous to say that he would have, like, half a million viewers.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
So I like saying 15 million is insane.
jordan holmes
I mean, I understand all of this, but, like, we gotta step back.
News should not care if a lot, you know?
dan friesen
It should just be news.
It shouldn't be the top priority of news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, everybody should just pretend that they don't, you know?
Like, the idea of being like, oh, well, we need to up our ratings is bad for news.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And you can see this being kind of a thing that's been wrestled with over time.
Like, it's been since the 90s.
You can find articles about, like...
Well, people are pivoting towards destinations for their news, you know?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Internet is now allowing people to do this.
And so, like, when Alex says, like, the media is dead, it's like, well, everyone's said that the whole time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we're, it's not, like, there's not four channels, but it's also not dead.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's like there's a middle...
What would I say?
We're in the transition period where we were alive for the tail end of the monoculture.
So success in our brains has been fucked up by the idea of like, you should get 50 million regular viewers like fucking Carson.
As opposed to where we live now where it's like, 250,000 is awesome!
That's great!
Live and be happy, you know?
dan friesen
Make your thing.
jordan holmes
Don't chase anything.
We're not there.
That's great.
I don't want to be there.
That's too much.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange.
But Alex is pretending that things are still the same, kind of, and judging these people by those standards, but himself and everyone around his orbit by completely different standards.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's strange and self-serving, and I don't care for it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But the media still has a little bit of a danger to them.
And that is they can coordinate on a message.
alex jones
Well, the corporate media has been dead for a long time.
Their last power is they can all get together and put out a few big lies a day.
Like, oh, actually Biden has a plan to get rid of taxes on tips.
No, he actually increased taxes on them and regulation and harassment.
Or Kamala's repeating that Trump loves everybody at the...
You know, rally in Virginia.
Charlottesville.
He never said that.
Or Trump hates all Mexicans.
They're still saying that.
Where's the clip?
Doesn't exist.
Nothing even close.
But they can still just all get together and say, he hates Mexicans.
People, well, I heard he hates Mexicans.
Really?
I mean, you should hate who told you that that's lying to you.
Or Alex Jones peed on graves and was mean to Sandy Hook people and made up all this stuff.
Never did anything they said.
The internet didn't believe it.
Huge story.
A few times I said, yeah, it could be fake.
I mean, who knows?
They lied to us so much.
Oh, a billion and a half dollars, rigged court cases.
And then in hindsight, I think it did happen.
And then they sued me once I said I thought it happened.
But again, ladies and gentlemen, the point is, is the corporate media is as dead as the dinosaurs.
dan friesen
So this comes off really weak and strangely defensive.
No one listening to this who's taking him at all seriously cares what Alex said about Sandy Hook.
He's just repeating this to convince himself that he did nothing wrong.
There's no point in this.
jordan holmes
This is weird now.
dan friesen
Also, let's not forget that before the attempted assassination of Trump, Alex launched his new storyline that the system was trying to take him off the air because he was free from his bankruptcy now and he was too close to the truth on Sandy Hook.
The fact that he knew the real conspiracy was supposed to be why he was still their big target, but then someone shot at Trump, and the story promptly changed to the globalists wanted me off the air because I was warning that they were going to kill Trump.
If you pay attention to his show and imagine that reality has any continuity, this defensive-ass shit shouldn't be Alex's position on Sandy Hook.
This was his safe, damage-control position, which he very publicly abandoned until Trump's attempted assassination sucked up all the attention and gave him a better story to run with.
jordan holmes
This is pathetic.
Here's my easiest argument, right?
If the media wanted to take you out, would it happen by now?
You know, like, or the globalists or whatever it is.
dan friesen
Got to assume.
jordan holmes
I mean, at this point, I guess the only thing not taking you out is just a judge's...
Bored or lazy or just doesn't give a fuck, you know?
Like, that's really where we're at, right?
So if the globalists had any power, they could be like, hey, we'll write your brief for you.
It's not going to take us long.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
And then you just put it out on there and then things go from there.
dan friesen
Because he's too much, like, that would prove him right about everything.
So they can't do that.
jordan holmes
They know that.
They're just too big to take out.
You can't want to take somebody out and then let somebody be, like, laissez-faire about when they do it.
dan friesen
We should all have villains.
unidentified
We're going to get him next time!
dan friesen
So the media, like Alex says, has been dead for a while.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like dinosaurs.
Great.
Not like millions of years, though.
Because that's like dinosaurs.
They've been dead millions of years.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Shorter time.
jordan holmes
Well, naturally.
alex jones
The dinosaur media didn't die 18 million years ago.
Or 66 million years ago, or whatever number they come up with.
dan friesen
Someone looked it up.
alex jones
They died.
jordan holmes
10,000 according to the Bible.
alex jones
I have to say, when Trump got elected in 2016, you could stick a fork in them.
So they've been dead about eight years.
But if people still think it's even media, when all it is is a PR operation, they just regurgitate BS all day, then it still has some power.
You know, I made this point to Joe a couple years ago on his show, and he's repeated it since he agreed with it.
I said, why do you keep obsessing on CNN?
Your average show has 20 million viewers, conservatively.
Your bigger show's 50 million.
Your biggest 100 million, like the ones I've done, when you had it all together.
Why are you even caring?
dan friesen
So rightly understood, Alex is saying that his career, pretending to have any meaning, has been dead since 2016, and he's just been a bizarre PR machine for Trump ever since.
jordan holmes
That's a really good way of putting it.
dan friesen
When he asks Joe Rogan why he would care about CNN, what he's really doing is wrestling with the same question inside himself.
If everything Alex is saying were true, why would he spend the first 20 minutes of his show rambling about how popular he is and how his enemies have no viewers?
According to Alex, he's in an information war and his enemy has been dead for eight years.
If you believe him, he lost to a dead enemy in 2020.
unidentified
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
It is crazy that your enemy has been dead for four years before they won?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But all because people thought they were alive or something.
jordan holmes
That's fascinating.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just, I feel like, you know, the interview wasn't that good.
jordan holmes
There are some conclusions that one can draw, and that should be one of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's kind of what I was thinking as I was listening to this next clip.
alex jones
And still the old politicians, especially the Republicans, they still put stock in what the media says, the corporate media.
You want to be attacked by CNN.
You want to be attacked by ABC News.
Again, I've been to three restaurants this week.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
All three times.
It doesn't usually happen like this, but with my youngest and my middle daughter.
And my sister.
And so I've been to three restaurants in the last seven days.
And you know what happened every time I was in a restaurant?
People walked over.
This was the weirdest part.
This happens all the time.
Usually they just get the check.
They just walk over all three times and handed me a $100 bill.
And I'm like, well, thank you.
jordan holmes
No, that's not the response!
dan friesen
That is the wrong response!
Well, thank you.
Alex is so popular that three times he's been in restaurants this week and people have come over and given him a crisp $100 bill.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, I can't think of anything that would make me, like, run away more or faster than somebody doing that.
dan friesen
I think there's something really interesting that's going on here, and that I think that Alex feels the need to escalate somehow these stories that he tells about how much people love him, because it was like, you know, people would pat him on the back instead of yelling at him for a while, but that's not satisfying.
Now people have to be like, I was wrong to hate you.
And they have to get his check.
And then now we've escalated to just giving him money on the street randomly.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
I did laugh out loud when I said that.
I thought, this is funny.
jordan holmes
Who are these people in your brain, sir?
Where do they come from?
dan friesen
I have people coming up to me giving me $100 bills all the time because I'm validated.
I'm so good.
jordan holmes
I am concerned that I...
If he doesn't face consequences for long enough, I think it's possible that he may gaslight us all into believing that we're in his lucid dream where whatever he says is true will wind up happening.
I don't even know how to describe somebody saying that people are coming up to them in three different restaurants giving him a crisp $100 bill.
I just don't understand.
dan friesen
Maybe you should let him talk a little bit more about the experience and see if it becomes more believable.
unidentified
There's more?
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Rocky Erickson's brother did it in Kirby Lane.
Yesterday, or two days ago, I was in there at like 8 a.m. with my sister and my youngest daughter eating breakfast.
And he just comes over and says, hey, I love you, love the work you do.
He knows my parents.
That's Rocky Erickson's brother, a well-known musician.
Really nice guy.
He goes, you know, am I trying to dox him?
He doesn't mind anything.
He's a listener.
I know my parents have told me that, but the point is, you know, it's just one of the people who gave me $100.
And I don't look at that as like, oh, look, I've got $100.
Aren't I lucky?
The point is, they've tried to make me the biggest devil on earth.
So this billion-plus viewers and listeners of the X spaces with Trump and Musk last night, and the fact that I've been in a restaurant three times this week, the last seven days, and every time I'm giving a $100 bill, it's like magic.
It's like Lucky Charms or something.
It just shows that they've done everything they can to destroy me and demonize me and say I'm all these horrible things that I'm not.
And it hasn't worked.
dan friesen
It hasn't worked.
We get it.
People like you.
You dumb dork.
jordan holmes
Sometimes when the pause is long enough.
I think maybe that there's some sort of involuntary bullshit reaction that all of us secretly have, where if it gets bad enough, if you spit out enough bullshit in a short enough period of time, your throat literally just clogs for a second.
dan friesen
It causes like a bile response or something.
jordan holmes
You just have to wait like two or three seconds of silence before you can spit bullshit again.
dan friesen
Your throat resets.
Yeah.
The hard reset.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
People just like me so much!
dan friesen
They come up to me and get Rocky Erickson's brother.
Give me $100 at Kirby Lane.
I don't want to dox him.
I know he's a loser.
alex jones
Oh, God.
dan friesen
That guy was a psychedelic rock guy, his brother from the 70s.
Sure.
Also, Kirby Lane.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
I looked into it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was like, okay, can I believe that Alex was there?
jordan holmes
That's an interesting...
Oh, wow.
Can you...
What's the basis level of assumption that one can make about truth in his story?
dan friesen
And I convinced myself for sure he was there.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And here's the piece of information that led me to that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They have a happy hour from 7 to 10 a.m.
So I'm pretty sure he was there.
Morning-ass happy hour.
jordan holmes
All right.
Well, there we go.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't only get love and $100 bills at cafes.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Also airports.
alex jones
I was out in San Francisco on business and covering Bohemian Grove a month ago, as you know, when Trump got shot.
And I mean, I'm in the middle of wine country and people on a farm renting a house and people are running out of the bushes that live three doors down that saw me on air and could tell the topography and knew I was there.
You know, I mean, I go at a gas station.
A grocery store.
Almost everybody's a listener.
San Francisco Airport.
Nothing but love except one guy got in my face.
And then literally three people right there getting on the plane go, we love you, we think you're great.
And the guy literally started crying that was calling me a scumbag.
Because he was like, what?
Because he's like, you gotta be ashamed of yourself.
You piece of crap.
Hate your family.
You know, all this other stuff.
You're just disgusting.
All the things you've done.
What you did to those children.
And I'm just like, I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
That's what I do now.
I've trained myself.
Don't say anything mean back.
He goes, why aren't you?
Why aren't you?
I said, he goes, why do you love me?
All of a sudden, people go, we love you.
And they start hugging me.
Literally.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
We think you're amazing and all this stuff.
And the guy starts tearing up because he came over to make me feel bad.
And I said, I love you.
He goes, why?
Why?
And I said, I love the attacks because it means I'm fighting evil.
All of a sudden, we love you.
We think you're amazing.
unidentified
Oh!
alex jones
What really got him was the black lady hugging me.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's...
We've heard a bit of this experience in the past, but this is incessant.
He's just going on and on about everyone loves him.
Because I think the interview was good.
I think that he has a lot to say about the interview.
jordan holmes
I like, and it hadn't occurred to me to think this until now.
I'm grateful that Frank Capra is dead, because there's no way that someone can commission him to rewrite Alex Jones' story into something like this.
There's just no possibility of that happening, so we don't have to worry about that.
That's nice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We don't have to worry about watching Miracle on 35th Street in Austin, Texas, where Alex is also Santa Claus and Jesus and the little girl at the same fucking time.
dan friesen
I bet someone at the airport said, fuck you, and then maybe someone patted him on the back and was like, hey, don't worry about it.
Or something like that.
In the same way that I believe he was at...
The cafe that has a happy hour at 7 in the morning.
That's what it is.
There was an interaction at the airport, but I do not trust any version that is coming out of Alex.
This version of it is ridiculous.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But fun, and clearly indicative of a mindset that he's in.
jordan holmes
Not a good interview, I think.
I think what we're talking about is that this was not a good interview last night.
dan friesen
Elon and Trump maybe disappointed a little bit.
jordan holmes
Between the two theoretically most powerful people, perhaps on this planet, or ever to exist on this planet.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I think that the disappointment about that interview leads Alex to talk about how everyone loves him.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And then start reflecting on his dog that died.
alex jones
Good call.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I don't have much news to cover, but just morale-wise, I want people to understand something.
It's not fun fighting these people.
And I got the devil coming after me in other ways.
That's how the devil comes after you.
And, you know, I'm going through major stuff that I don't even spend time on air about.
But I want everybody to realize that...
I'm getting 99.9% love.
I go munch without anybody getting in my face, anybody attacking me.
And when Trump first got elected, if I was walking the dog, the dog died.
About a year after Trump got elected, God, people said, you have a dog.
Well, I got so depressed when my 12-year-old captain, sweetheart, French Bulldog, he was so athletic, he'd jump like three feet in the air and grab frisbees, and he would run and jump over walls.
He broke his neck.
unidentified
No!
alex jones
Because my parents, their house had this big ball hanging down.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
They all killed dogs.
alex jones
My sister, she's a lot younger than me.
She didn't live with them, but she hung it there or whatever.
The point was, some kind of exercise ball hanging out of a tree.
He would love to hit it like it was a bulldog.
Boom, hit it, hit it, hit it.
And then he got on the table once at Easter.
My parents were over at my house, and my mom brought an Easter cake.
She makes this great coconut cake.
Calls it Easter cake.
And it's half eaten and we're watching the Ten Commandments, a ritual we do almost every year.
Charlton Heston, God love him.
What a great guy.
And he's up on top of the table eating it.
And I yelled at him, Captain!
And he jumped off and broke his neck.
And man, I still have, I have nightmares about yelling at him.
It's not my fault, but God, he jumped off that table and broke his neck fully.
When they x-rayed him, they said his neck's been broken a bunch for a while.
A little tough dog, man.
Because most of them aren't that athletic.
This one, he was really like a big one.
See, now I'm just, that's what I want to do.
I just want to hang out with French Bulldogs and go fishing.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, man, I think you do.
jordan holmes
That physically hurts me.
It's crazy.
I don't know if I could, like...
alex jones
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
It's great, but you know what?
Like, obviously, that's, you know, a human moment.
jordan holmes
That breaks my heart.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That breaks my heart.
dan friesen
I think the blame in yourself when you yell at an animal.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I would.
I don't know.
dan friesen
That's something to remind you that Alex is a human.
jordan holmes
I don't think my wife would.
I don't know if she would be able to live.
Like, that's horrific.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's so horrifying.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Got really drunk and yelled at Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, it does.
dan friesen
Because he said it's an Easter cake, and that was right around Easter of 2017.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
Yep, so, you know, he probably was coming off.
His dog jumping off the table and breaking its neck.
jordan holmes
If there was a pound or a breeder, or anybody, like...
Put a picture of Alex up and do not to this man.
dan friesen
Period.
jordan holmes
No pets.
dan friesen
No adoption.
jordan holmes
No friends.
No nothing.
You are going to get hurt if you are a four-legged and you're near Alex.
dan friesen
Or the government's going to try and take you like his cat.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
So there's a reason that I played all of this shit where he's just constantly talking about how much everyone loves him.
Part of it is because there's clearly a...
Lack of interest in talking about Trump and Elon all that much.
Outside of numbers.
And then the second is that Alex says something at the beginning of this clip that I think is really illuminating and helps understand the very disgusting stuff he says towards the end of the clip.
alex jones
Things are only going to get worse if we don't get close to God.
And so we can't give up.
And look, so much good is happening.
And I'm telling myself that right now.
Remember, so much of the show, folks, is inner dialogue.
I'm being honest about that.
And I just talk about whatever I'm thinking.
That's why I start going off on something about the French Bulldog.
Because that's just where we are.
But the reason I got down yesterday is I look at all this stuff, and half the time I can't even cover it.
Because I've already watched the clips, I've already researched it, and it's like, I'm looking at Joe Biden, I'm looking at Yetting Yahoo, I'm looking at this...
These judge videos where you said migrants rape people.
That's the worst thing you can do.
20 months in jail.
That's the quote.
I have the video.
I mean, I got all the statistics.
They commit over 70% of the rapes in every European country.
They're absolute maniacs.
They come from countries where women all wear beekeeper suits.
And the only woman they've ever seen is their mama or their sister, who's probably their sister or their...
I'm not trying to be mean.
It's true.
I mean, the inbreeding is insane in those areas of Central Asia.
And then they ship in literal inbred cavemen.
And all they've seen online is hardcore porn.
And they've done surveys of the boat people coming in from Somalia and coming in from Afghanistan and Pakistan.
And they literally say, what are you coming for?
We're coming for the whores.
We're coming for the white women.
So imagine, they never even get to see women.
Women wear hoods, but they're watching porn.
And Germany's putting ads out that are seen, saying, come to Germany.
The women want to have sex with you.
I've played these TV shows.
They have them on children's TV for targeting 8- and 9-year-olds.
I've played the clip a lot.
Guys, I haven't played in like three years.
It's still on YouTube.
Just type in, German TV tells German teens to have sex with migrants.
And it says, this is Jenny.
She's 12, and she's having sex with a 22-year-old from Pakistan.
And then they say in German, you can come here and have sex with our...
So the German left is advertising, if you...
Come to Germany or Sweden.
You can have sex.
dan friesen
Okay.
So I think that clip really says a lot.
And I find it difficult to even, like, sit through some.
I think you had a gasp in the middle of it that might not have been audible.
jordan holmes
I'm twitching.
dan friesen
But it's really helpful in terms of understanding Alex's content.
It's an internal monologue, and if you take it seriously as news, all you're doing is accepting Alex's twisted imagination as something that dictates reality.
The show is a conduit for Alex's feelings and him engaging in self-soothing techniques at the expense of the audience and the public as a whole.
He feels down and like no one appreciates him, so he spends half an hour ranting about how everyone loves him and gives him $100 bills at fucking cafes.
He hates people unlike himself, so he descends into grotesque coverage of nonsensical memes he's skimmed in order to demonize entire populations while pretending that he's researched any of this in order to justify that bigotry that he has and self-soothe, make himself, I'm not the bad guy.
This story about a judge giving someone 20 months in jail comes from a little clip that Alex saw online that's a bit of a fraud.
The clip shows a judge saying that he was being sentenced, and this guy said that the reason he was being sentenced was he didn't want to give his money going to, quote, immigrants who rape our kids and get priority.
However, the clip selectively removes the context that he didn't get in trouble for expressing that opinion.
This man, Jordan Parler, pled guilty, and the charge was the result of him inciting racial hatred, posting, quote, This context is really important because...
There's a difference between getting in legal trouble for expressing a viewpoint that's noxious but is based on where you want your tax money directed and getting in legal trouble for expressing explicitly public planning for racist violence.
Alex is conflating these two because he wants to excuse and justify racist violence and make you think, oh, it's this guy.
He just said that he doesn't like his tax money going to help migrants.
No, he was planning and explicitly the time.
It's hard to nail down exactly what Alex is talking about with Germany, but I think it's him lying about a sex education website that Germany published that was supposed to be for migrants.
I guess the point of it was to help with the cultural differences in terms of sex issues, but most people thought that the approach was a bit condescending and less helpful than it was intended to be.
Whatever it was, it's not what Alex is saying.
All of this is just rooted in classic racist tropes of they're coming for our women.
We've seen this play out over and over again throughout history, and if we were in a different generation, we would be hearing Alex argue and fix.
Sure.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Pathetically transparent.
jordan holmes
I mean, we're honestly not far enough away from Alex arguing that we should get the Teutons together on a crusade to fucking Jerusalem.
So, I don't know.
No, we were talking.
dan friesen
He talks about the Visigoths later.
jordan holmes
We were talking before the show.
We were talking about some of the differences between us and how when I'm emotionally overwhelmed, I have a far harder time compartmentalizing it and leaving it where it needs to be.
And so during that clip, I was doing...
I was, like, staying in the pocket.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I was in there.
dan friesen
I could feel it.
jordan holmes
I was in the zone, because in all honesty, the amount and volume of yell in my heart, it's a Sunday, man.
It's a Sunday.
It's true.
And your entire building shouldn't be knocking on your door.
dan friesen
They shouldn't have to deal with that.
But I understand that, and sometimes there are clips that are of this ilk that are kind of like, oh, Alex is just literally expressing these...
Deeply fucking racist awful views.
And I don't want to necessarily bring that to the show.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because we all know this is the kind of shit that he talks about.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
We don't need to wallow in it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But one of the reasons that I think that it made the cut this time, and I subjected you to that boiling that you were experiencing.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
You know, sometimes it's good that this isn't a video podcast.
Right.
dan friesen
It's because the beginning of the clip is him literally expressing, this show is my inner monologue.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not some researched fucking thing that he's just ranting.
I was like, in my head, I'm just going like, this is the trick.
jordan holmes
This is the ultimate trick.
This is the power that he has.
It overloads you, and you're just unable to, like, sidestep it.
Like, this is what he does that is so destructive and impossible to fight against.
It's like, unless you're supremely capable of, like, focus.
Just yells.
Just yells.
Just yells in my brain.
dan friesen
Or are people taking a swing at him?
Like, it's understandable when you're...
Confronted with a barrage like that, it makes sense that you're just like, fuck you.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
And that's the reaction that...
It's counterproductive, but understandable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I'm immediately thinking of Clue.
Flames?
Flames?
On the side of my face.
You know, like, that's...
I can't even finish a sentence or thought about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there is a fair amount of stuff that I think will descend into a little disgusting, a little bit racist.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
dan friesen
Throughout what we have left.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
But I think that there is a point.
alex jones
Yeah, here it is.
Welsh Refugee Council.
Go back and read that.
I had never seen this.
12-year-old girl meant to entice migrants to come to Wales.
The refugee council is a far-left group.
I'd never seen this.
Okay, get me this.
Print this off.
See?
No, no.
It's in Germany.
And it shows this hot, blonde, famous singer.
I forget her name.
She's like, when you come to Germany, you get the women like me.
You get the boom-boom me.
And then they cut...
jordan holmes
Is that a German accent?
alex jones
And it's like, this is whatever her name is.
She's 12, and here's her boyfriend.
His name's Habib.
unidentified
He's 22. They have sex.
alex jones
And I told the crew to find it.
They found one out of England?
Oh, I told you little girl.
You come from Pakistan.
Be with me, please.
jordan holmes
Is that English?
alex jones
God almighty, what the hell?
And then you talk about it, 20 months in prison!
I'm wearing a wig!
dan friesen
So you might notice here that Alex doesn't know what the video is that they're playing on the B-roll, and it's not what he asked for.
They didn't find this German video about Boom Boom, but they did find a very low-budget video apparently put together by this group, the Wales Refugee Council.
I don't know how else to put this, but it's fucked up that Alex and his ilk respond to this video the way they do.
It's two young girls speaking to the camera delivering lines about how it can be hard to be a refugee and that Wales is welcoming and offers resources to help people become part of the community.
Many refugees are children or parents of children, and the experience of your child entering a new school is difficult, even if you aren't a refugee.
This kind of messaging is very helpful in a real way to families, but through Alex's eyes, it's somehow sexual.
These children aren't classmates that might befriend your kid.
They're objects that are being offered to these non-white immigrants as an incentive for them to come here.
I can't really begin to lay out how deeply fucked up this is for Alex, like how he sees this or discusses it.
But it's right in line with that inner monologue that he's spewing out on this episode.
It's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Was it the Tipper Gore?
I can't remember what specific reference it was during the 90s.
But there is that like, see, look at these sex objects.
And you're like, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
Nobody else thought that.
Nobody else thought that.
You are the one who is introducing that incredibly fucked up thought into my brain, and I don't like it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very strange to see this video responded to that way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that's...
jordan holmes
That's not cool.
dan friesen
I think it speaks volumes about...
jordan holmes
Don't do that.
dan friesen
...Alex's inner monologue.
jordan holmes
Never even occurred to me.
dan friesen
So, let's hear a little bit about the interview.
Sure.
Because Trump and Elon did do that interview.
unidentified
They did talk.
alex jones
You know, I was here live last night.
Millions tuned in.
Just on X. And tons of folks other places.
And it really made me love Elon Musk and Donald Trump more.
It was a really great discussion.
dan friesen
Except for the part where you didn't.
alex jones
For people that don't know audio.
jordan holmes
This isn't what I want.
unidentified
Quote.
alex jones
I don't have a degree in it, but I've been around it for 30 plus years, so I know all about it.
jordan holmes
Do you?
alex jones
When you have a system like X, they're trying to fix it.
It has the S's.
The S's become long lisp and the pops become popping.
And you've got to have the right microphone and systems or you get that.
And so because Trump had long S's, which was just a form of reverb, now it's all about he's slurring his words.
No, after a long day, he did two hours and did a fabulous job.
But there's your headline everywhere.
Thousands of fake news headlines.
Trump slurs through interview.
Increasingly bizarre claims.
Musk.
Baga mania.
Well, there aren't a billion people tuned in to all of the corporate media combined.
You have to pay to put it in airports, pay to put it in hotels, pay to hang on your hotel.
Doorknob.
dan friesen
So this is very sad.
I understand that there were some headlines and tweets about Trump slurring a bit during the interview, but is this really the place where Alex needs to be defensive?
Can you just ignore this one?
This seems sad.
He talked over a ton of the interview and was clearly bored by it, so maybe he should just move on instead of playing defense.
Incidentally, while we're on the subject of needing to pay for exposure and how CNN could never get a billion views without paying for it, this might be a good time to remind Alex that the only reason this interview was happening is because Elon Musk literally bought 20%.
Yeah, nobody invited him to the pickup game.
jordan holmes
So he bought the court and then forced everybody to play with him, and then everybody left, so he sued them.
dan friesen
And now his friends are talking about how no one plays ball like him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's brutal.
You know, here's the thought.
It's like...
This is part of why stuff sucks, and it's nobody's actual fault, right?
So if Elon had the infrastructure in place, the amount of employees necessary, the equipment, all of that stuff, for the interviewer to have gone off without a hitch, he's not going to get headlines of like, surprise, business does well, you know?
What's going to happen is he's going to hire a consultant who's going to be like, hey, you know what you could have done?
You could have fired like half of those people.
And maybe done the same job, you know?
dan friesen
So going poorly might have saved people's jobs.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Like, it is so strange that you don't see competence ever celebrated quite.
The same way that people celebrate being able to just barely hang on by your fingernails.
dan friesen
You take competence for granted a lot of the time because it's just kind of the expectation.
jordan holmes
Totally.
You should probably be able to do the job you're paid to do is like a baseline.
dan friesen
But even if they had gone off without a hitch and everything had gone fine, I still don't think it would have been interesting.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
And so I don't think there's a possibility to deliver the thing that they're hoping to deliver.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I was just talking about like...
If they didn't have to wait a half hour, you know what I'm saying?
That's not a headline.
dan friesen
But it probably, honestly...
jordan holmes
Kind of should.
It would be, maybe.
dan friesen
Honestly, it being delayed and there being the problem probably made it more interesting.
jordan holmes
The most interesting part of it is that it took a long time to start and it should have been...
dan friesen
Added intrigue and a pretend attack and all this shit.
Oh well.
So Alex talks a little bit about this dynamic where CNN has to pay people to play it at...
Airports and stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If something's free, it's gotta suck.
alex jones
There aren't a billion people tuned in to all of the corporate media.
jordan holmes
That is an indictment of us.
alex jones
You have to pay to put it in airports, pay to put it in hotels, pay to hang on your hotel doorknob.
At gas station pumps, they got TVs blaring this crap at you.
And it's just that.
It's crap.
If somebody's trying to force you to take something or have something and making you do it, it must not be that good, right?
I mean, if a restaurant was consistently just giving away free food, it must not be that good.
Maybe when they first opened, give away a little entree or maybe an appetizer.
But if it's always free, what's going on in there?
Must be money laundering or something.
What I'm trying to get at here is I want to go through a bunch of these clips.
I want to go through the news, and I need to because I did a lot of research for this.
dan friesen
Sure did.
So this makes no sense.
The only reason Alex even has a career is because he offered his show to radio stations free to air.
If he'd ever tried to negotiate a deal that wasn't you-can-have-it-at-no-expense-at-all, almost no stations would have ever aired him in the first place.
He wouldn't have been able to make a name for himself.
He never would have had his foot in the door.
I disagree with his point that if something is free, it must not be good, but it's a damning position for him to take about himself.
Also, if he's saying that something being free spread out widely must be money laundering, he might be saying more about himself than CNN.
This might be that internal monologue going on.
jordan holmes
I mean, I will say this.
As a stand-up, I think I've performed in many a front, and their stuff was not cheaper.
Generally, it was almost like a little bit too expensive for what it was.
You're like, there's nobody in this restaurant.
dan friesen
You don't want to rotate stock.
jordan holmes
How is it possible this costs $25?
dan friesen
It's just an inconvenience if you have to replace things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
We're not a business.
dan friesen
It can go both directions.
But yeah, Alex seems to be...
Pointing the finger at himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, we get back to the story about the UK and the judge that he was talking about.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And now, I would call this a complete misreporting of the story.
alex jones
I've got the quote here.
UK's free speech crackdown, 20 months in prison for social media posts.
The judge says, quote, you went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority, end quote.
The offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable.
The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one-third to reflect your guilty plea.
The sentence is 20 months in prison.
20 months in prison for saying the illegal aliens are raping people.
Headlines.
France migration chaos.
77% of rape cases on Paris streets committed by foreigners.
Official government numbers.
I got a whole stack of these.
Sweden, England.
So for saying the truth, by the way, he has a right to say Martians are raping people.
This guy under the Magna Carta and under the laws in the UK that they completely ignore.
jordan holmes
The Magna Carta.
alex jones
That it could motivate somebody to be angry or violent.
That's hate speech.
So it's the definition they create.
So you got free speech under the law, except if we say it can hurt somebody.
Oh, you can't tell anybody that these Muslim men are literally in surveys, 90% saying, "I'm coming for the white women." Okay, so Alex's coverage here is based on a false premise because he's just reporting on a clip he saw out of context on Twitter.
dan friesen
He's pretending that the judge sentenced this man to 20 months in jail for saying that migrants have raped UK citizens, but that's not true.
He was sentenced because he directly incited violence on a specific location at a specific time because there were migrants at that place.
Alex knows damn well that if he presents the actual details in this case, the whole game falls apart.
So it's kind of in his best interest to keep things in his coverage.
Safely in the meme surface level and then get mad about the false premise that you've created to see this story through.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fucking garbage.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That 77% number from Paris is interesting and possibly misleading.
This was about numbers from Paris in 2023.
28 out of the 36 people who were arrested for rapes that occurred in public spaces were of foreign nationality.
It's not specified what foreign nationality, but the most important part is that less than a third of reported cases were solved.
This is to say that 28 out of the 36 known offenders were of foreign nationality, but we don't know if that trend extends to the other two-thirds of the cases that the police haven't solved.
We have no idea about that information.
This isn't good, and there should be more being done to keep women safe and public from sexual assaults, obviously, but using a statistic like this, Fucking hell.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
It's a real misuse of statistic for the sake of the purpose that Alex wants to use.
jordan holmes
It's not a thing that you learn from.
It's a thing that you use to manipulate people into harm.
dan friesen
It's a thing that you find to use as a weapon.
jordan holmes
It's not something that you are like, oh, well, now that we have this information, we can do something to do.
You're just using it to say, go harm people.
And you don't care if it's somebody who's committed any crime.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You don't care.
dan friesen
So Alex spends a bit of time complaining about the Visigoths.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
And the Moors.
jordan holmes
The Moors?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How dare he?
dan friesen
It turns out he's just talking about a movie.
jordan holmes
That would make more sense.
Did he watch Othello recently?
dan friesen
El Cid.
unidentified
Ah.
alex jones
Yeah, the Spanish were known as the Visigoths.
They were blonde-haired, blue-eyed.
And they aren't anymore.
But if you see the nobility in Spain, they are.
But that's the few families that could run to the north and hide.
And then they ran a reconcation that took 400 to 500 years to drive the Muslims back into North Africa.
So, if you want to get a nice historical snapshot of it, watch the Charlton Heston movie El Cid.
Captured Christian women were much prized throughout the Muslim world, and their traffic was highly profitable.
That's mainline Encyclopedia Britannica.
And so, these guys have the same customs, the same operations, the same plans.
And if you say it in the UK, your ass gets locked up for 20 months in prison.
But if you kill...
White kids with a machete, you get six months.
Those are real cases.
You hack a 10-year-old boy up with a machete because he's white, you get six months in jail.
Job well done.
unidentified
Job well done.
alex jones
All right, I got a ton of news, but I'm just so sick of all this crap, and I'm not bowing down to any of it.
I'm done.
And I want to just say something right now before I hit all the no's.
You know, I am a dramatic person when things are dramatic.
I'm only dramatic when something is dramatic.
I act dramatic because I feel dramatic about it.
But at a certain point, I'm just going to say this right now.
We're reaching more people than ever.
Thank you for spreading the word.
But we're under major attack.
I'm not going to spend an hour explaining it to you.
We've done nothing but deliberate success.
And I'm asking you humbly to keep us in the fight and to make the decision now.
Now.
To go to drjonesnaturals.com and get great supplements.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretty disgusting.
unidentified
It's dense.
jordan holmes
It's dense.
dan friesen
The path of that clip is really, really pretty gross.
jordan holmes
I knew where it was going to end.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
I knew where it was going to end.
dan friesen
As soon as there was that pause, and I got a lot of news, you knew that a fucking ad was coming.
jordan holmes
Of course.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
This is dense with hate.
This is dense with hatred.
dan friesen
So, referencing a movie to make something relatable is something a cool teacher might do from time to time.
him so I kind of understand why Alex thinks like makes him look hip but you get to a certain point where you have to realize that most of what he thinks is history comes from movies not research or study or any of this bullshit that he tries to pretend also Alex mentions a machete murder in there and I think what he's talking about is something that happened last November but made its way through the court this summer to 12 year old boys were arrested for killing a 19 year old man with machetes in Wolverhampton and I know I probably mispronounced that and I
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
It's impossible.
jordan holmes
All of you...
Change your spelling or go fuck yourselves.
I refuse to acknowledge any of your bullshit.
dan friesen
Captain of wolves.
jordan holmes
No, it's got eight more syllables in it than the ones we wrote down.
No, that's on you.
dan friesen
So because the two 12-year-olds are 12 years old, we don't know anything about who they are or identifying information, but we do know that the victim in that case was a migrant who recently come to the UK from Antigua.
So, like, I think that possibly some of this is what Alex is talking about, but because he never gets any details...
It's really hard to know what story he's talking about.
It's actually probably the case that he's talking about a different story, where an 18 and a 17-year-old guy were arrested for attacking a 14-year-old with a machete.
They were both charged with manslaughter, and one got a greater sentence while the other one was only sentenced to two years.
This guy who was sentenced to two years is named Lawson Natty, and the reason that he was given less time is spelled out really clearly in the court filing if you go look for it.
Quote, Okay, so there were also other people there who a jury was like, you weren't involved.
Yes.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And the reason that this guy got charged is because he had given the guy the machete.
jordan holmes
He was an accessory.
Exactly.
dan friesen
Before this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Natty lived in the UK for a while, but was from Belgium.
This whole thing really comes down to a rap beef at the bottom of it.
The victim was part of a crew that made a diss track about Natty and his group, which went back and forth over time and then it escalated to violence.
The perpetrators were black youths and the victim was a white youth, so the story more or less writes itself for Alex, but it has no connection to reality.
Natty was up for early release at six months, primarily because he showed great remorse, wasn't directly involved in the manslaughter, was 17 at the time of attack, and in theory they must have seen some potential for rehabilitation in his case.
You can see how Alex has completely rewritten details of the stories that could be used to stir up racist feelings that he wants the audience to hold.
He riles that up, and the payoff to the whole thing is him doing an ad so they can pay to keep him in the fight, screaming racist nonsense that's just his inner monologue.
This is just a dude struggling in his own head.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yep.
jordan holmes
The going to an ad part.
Boy.
dan friesen
It shows you the craft.
jordan holmes
And it's like, it's just so, so interesting because it is so bare.
You know, it is so stark, that idea of like, I am going to emotionally overwhelm you to the point where you feel you have to.
To take action.
dan friesen
Gotta do something.
jordan holmes
And then I'm going to provide you with said action, and that action is give me $100 bills in a restaurant.
dan friesen
These folks hatchet kill 10-year-olds because they're white.
You gotta do something.
jordan holmes
You gotta give me money.
dan friesen
Gotta go to Dr. Jones Naturals.
jordan holmes
Listen, you can't go do anything about that or do a thing or do anything like that.
dan friesen
But if you do, I'm gonna pretend it's a false flag.
jordan holmes
Absolutely, it's not you.
What you should be doing is giving me money because I will then yell at you more about things that you can't do about.
So you will give me more money at the end.
dan friesen
Fuel this inner monologue.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah!
It is just so...
dan friesen
It makes me think of the...
During the trial, one of the things I thought was really effective was when they'd play clips of Alex saying these horrible things about the families and shit, and then do an ad.
jordan holmes
And then the ad, yeah.
dan friesen
The ability that he has of, like, you know that he knew he was going to go to an ad in the middle of saying this dumb shit.
Like, he knew what...
He knew that this is the path that you go down.
There's so much intent there, and it's just, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is so much like he rails about free speech and then charges people for it.
dan friesen
It's expensive.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, he's not going to give up, though.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Ever.
jordan holmes
Really?
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
God damn it, man.
unidentified
Give up!
dan friesen
There might be one circumcision.
jordan holmes
Quit!
dan friesen
If he gives up, though, it's your fault.
jordan holmes
Okay, good!
It will be!
alex jones
Get a book.
Get a film.
I need your support.
We're in a war.
I won't back down.
I won't sell out.
It's impossible.
It isn't in my DNA.
Not even a discussion of it.
But I could give up like a horse that didn't get given water or food.
And I'm not bitching.
I'm saying I'm asking for aid.
I want to thank those that have given us aid in this war, but I'm asking all of you that sit there.
I mean, I had last night two and a half million conservatively new people on the show, and I got up this morning and checked the numbers, and they're like, yeah, boss, it wasn't a good day.
Wow.
dan friesen
Wow.
So maybe almost as if those might have been bots or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Huh.
That is strange.
But also, your show sucks.
And if anyone was watching it to hear analysis of Trump and Elon, and they saw you yelling about horse semen, why the fuck would they give you money?
Like, why would this translate into a sale if you're watching that stream in particular?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It seems like the path to entry is very, very difficult.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and yet at the same time, why would you want analysis of Elon and Trump?
dan friesen
You wouldn't.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't.
dan friesen
You'd want somebody yelling about a horse.
jordan holmes
You'd want somebody yelling about a horse human.
dan friesen
Right, which is why he still exists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what a weird world.
dan friesen
So the other thing, I just love this dynamic of like, I will never give up, but when I do, it's your fucking fault because you didn't give me anything.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't give up if I had to.
Like, that is the idea, you know?
Like, hey, I will stand against tyranny as long as it's popular, but the moment it's not, I give up.
dan friesen
He's kind of like a racist Tinkerbell.
He is.
jordan holmes
As long as everybody claps their hands.
dan friesen
I'll die if you don't believe in me enough.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
So anyway, he's very serious.
And that's why a fair amount of the show is spent playing memes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, great.
alex jones
If you're a radio listener, you can't see this.
It's really entertaining.
Go to RealAlexJonesOnX.
We're going to post it on the front page of InfoWars.
But it's that Indiana Jones scene.
Raiders of the Lost Ark when he first goes into that temple and tries to replace the Golden Island with the sand.
Well, instead, it's Pelosi trying to replace Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
Perhaps you should have been to speak.
unidentified
Come on.
So, my concern was...
dan friesen
What do you hope to achieve with this?
I don't know what the goal is.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
dan friesen
A meme about Pelosi replacing Biden with Harris.
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
What's the payoff?
jordan holmes
Shouldn't they be...
I thought they were supposed to be fun.
Right?
I thought they were.
Aren't they supposed to...
The memes that they share, aren't they supposed to be like, this is a joke that we have.
And now it doesn't even feel like they laugh or anything.
They just go, a thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's embodied by like...
Hulk Hogan being at the RNC and people being like, look at them, they're having fun.
That's not fun.
jordan holmes
They weren't having fun.
dan friesen
No, that's Hulk Hogan tearing off his shirt in a room full of people who know he's a racist and like him for it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's all sad.
It's all sad, and I think they know it.
dan friesen
Weird.
I think, Alex, the whole career trajectory arc of pretending to talk about books and all of this really serious, deep globalist lore based on John Birch society nonsense to joylessly playing memes is really...
There's a spiritual appropriateness to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I thought for the longest time that part of the sales pitch of this conservative movement, or at least the way I understood it in the early thousands, was...
If we win all the way, then we'll also get their fun stuff.
Then all their pop stars will have to do what we say now.
We'll get all the good stuff.
Right now, because we're not in power, we have Hulk Hogan.
But if we win, we're going to get whoever you want, right?
Who would it be?
I don't know.
dan friesen
Come on, give me a wrestling reference.
jordan holmes
I think they're getting Bon Iver.
That's my wrestling reference.
dan friesen
He's a bad wrestling guy.
Who would it be?
Booker T!
Okay, he's a commentator now.
jordan holmes
I liked Booker T. I thought he was cool.
dan friesen
Five times!
jordan holmes
See, that's what I was saying.
I loved Booker T. Is he a bad guy?
I don't want to find out.
No, The Rock was the Scorpion King.
dan friesen
Right, I know, but he had a whole segment that he did back in WCW.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, I didn't know that.
dan friesen
Booker was making fun of The Rock being a movie.
alex jones
And I got a sword, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fun.
Wrong move.
dan friesen
So, Alex plays a clip of the judge.
Yes.
From his narrative about this judge.
jordan holmes
Not the judge from Blood Meridian.
dan friesen
Nor Judge Reinhold.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
These are the judges it is not.
It is this British judge that he saw a meme of.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
Let's play that clip.
Here it is.
unidentified
I went on to say that you did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority, end quote.
This offence is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable.
Would you stand, please?
The sentence that I pass has been reduced by one third to reflect your guilty plea.
The sentence is one of 20 months imprisonment.
The sentence is one of 20 months.
alex jones
Can I do a come on a laugh?
I can't even do it.
France migration chaos.
77% of rape cases in Paris streets committed by Farners in 2023.
Shock stats reveal.
Remember, the numbers are always a year behind.
Of the 97,000 reported rapes, Almost all were foreigners.
dan friesen
So you can see here how this clip that Alex has of the judge is selectively edited to make it appear like he's sentencing the guy to 20 months for his comments about migrants when in reality it was him inciting violence at a specific place at a specific time.
Alex and his ilk need to play fraudulent games like this because without that trickery there's no content for Alex's internal monologue.
It becomes pretty clear what's going on otherwise.
And it also becomes very clear, once you get him cold reading this story about rapes in France, how full of shit he is.
He has never read this story.
He just knows the headline works for him, and he's written his own version of it that the actual text doesn't live up to.
That actual story, if you go find it, is about 97 cases of reported rapes in public places in Paris in 2023.
But that number is disappointing to Alex.
So you can hear him in real time.
You listen to that clip, you hear him decide that it's 97,000.
The next bit of text in the article explains that two-thirds of these cases haven't been solved, but that 28 of the 36 individuals who were arrested for solved cases were of foreign origin.
That kind of context and detail really isn't working for Alex's narrative directions, so he just completely bails on trying to read the story and he asserts most of the cases are migrants.
If you're listening to Alex's show and you trust him, you'd have every reason to assume that they're...
There were a thousand times more rape cases in Paris than that story reports, and that it was all being done by migrants.
But if you pay attention, you can tell how this is just the internal monologue of a racist liar.
By his own definition.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that changing it to 97,000 is like...
dan friesen
It's egregious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's just like...
Consequences happen, you know?
dan friesen
That's one of the reasons why I decided, like, we should play some of these clips.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it is such a clear moment of intentional lying.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That, like, you're dead to rights.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
In that moment, when you do that...
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
You're showing your cards by the way that you're misreporting the story.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I mean, so much of how these guys operate and how they get away with it is the ambiguity.
Is the ability for them to hide.
Behind something, no matter how flimsy, because you can't prove it in a court of law, you know, whatever it is.
That's provable, done.
unidentified
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's done.
dan friesen
The story about the machete murder, he says it's a 10-year-old who was killed.
And I found the story that he's talking about, but it's a 14-year-old person, and there's all this context and details to it.
And so if I were to confront him with this information, he'd be like, oh, talk about a different story and then move along, or whatever.
In this case, there is no real escape.
I know what article he's looking at.
I've read it.
And I know the mental process that he's engaging in in order to make this work for him.
Yep.
unidentified
And it's just pretty obvious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is one of those things where it's like, once it's this obvious, there's just nothing, you know, like, I don't know what to do.
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
You know?
jordan holmes
Well.
unidentified
Nobody else is doing anything.
dan friesen
So he lies about more stuff.
jordan holmes
Sweden.
alex jones
Right.
Most convicted attackers, foreign-born.
70-plus percent.
dan friesen
So Alex says 70-plus percent there, but the literal first line of the article he's pointing to says, quote, about 58% of men convicted in Sweden of rape and attempted rape over the past five years were born abroad, according to data from Swedish national television.
So where did the 70-plus number come from?
As always, it's Alex's imagination.
The last story had a 70 number in it, so he's applying it to this one, even though it's a completely made-up number.
This is an article from 2018, and these numbers are out of date and presented out of context, but you can see the direct lying that he's doing.
It's just making shit up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one is like, fuck it.
Why would you?
Why would you even bother?
Who cares?
Once you get to 97,000, why not go 100%?
Who fucking cares, man?
dan friesen
So he covers a little bit of a story about stabbing that happened.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And he might get some of the details of this wrong.
unidentified
Oh!
alex jones
And as that video came out a month ago, they tried to block on X. You know where else you can get it.
Where this Muslim in Germany is stabbing and killing.
He killed people.
He's just stabbing white people.
And a white guy fights him, and the police run in and tackle him and are putting him in handcuffs and beating him while the Muslims still...
And then he comes over and kills the cop.
Bam, bam, bam, bam.
And the police went apeshit.
And they were arresting people that posted the video.
You're like, how dare you show a Muslim kill the cop?
The cop tried to help.
He tried to defend the Muslim, tried to let him carry out his jolly work.
But he was just trained.
Hey, German defending themselves?
Oh my God, it's because the government's raping you, and the one thing they can't have is you stand up, because if one ant stands up, they might all stand up.
Like Bugs Life.
Let's play that next time when we come in.
unidentified
Let's play that next time.
alex jones
And it's that simple.
dan friesen
It's that simple.
So you had a look of shock on your face when he said it's like a Bugs Life, whereas for me, It was the exact same as when you knew an ad was coming.
As soon as he talked about one person standing up, I'm like, he's going to mention a bug's leg.
I know it.
I've heard it too many times.
jordan holmes
No, it was the ant.
It was the ant thing where I was like, he's really going to do...
He's going to go...
He's going to juxtapose these two things.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
So he's getting a few details wrong.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I should say.
For one thing, this happened at a specifically anti-Islam rally run by an extreme group called Pax Europa.
The main target of the stabbing was a keynote speaker at the event, Michael Sturzenberger, a man who believes he's fighting a counter-jihad and has a long-standing association with a number of...
white supremacist groups like Pegida.
Second, the police didn't try to defend the attacker.
In the scuffle that broke out, another bystander who was a refugee from Iraq tried to help restrain the attacker, and in the process was confused for the attacker and hit by someone which allowed the attacker to get loose.
The Iraqi man would later go on to say, I'm happy to help.
I live here.
I love Germany.
But him being confused of the attacker, since they're both migrants, allowed the attacker to escape, and he ended up stabbing a cop who had mistaken someone else for the attacker And he stabbed this cop who ended up dying from his wounds.
Anyway, the real story is a little bit different than what you hear on Infowars, but that makes sense because this is just one idiot's internal monologue pretending to be news.
So it makes sense that it wouldn't line up with...
I mean, I watched the video.
You can find the video.
It's not like you get arrested for posting it.
It's available.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of hate that he's getting through.
A lot of Islamophobia, a lot of xenophobia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of pure, basic racism.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, before we even came in today, I was telling you about all the bad vibes.
I was telling you about all the bad vibes.
And then you throw this at me, man.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
Bad vibing.
dan friesen
Here's some good vibes.
jordan holmes
Oh, I doubt it.
alex jones
More news coming up here on the Alex Jones Show on this live Tuesday edition, August 13, 2024.
Huge guest coming up next hour.
Deep dive on who really runs the deep state.
But first, here's that clip from Bugs Life I was talking about.
unidentified
But there was that ant that stood up to me.
Yeah, but we can forget about him.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was just one ant.
Got to play the clip.
So here's the good vibes.
We're not going to listen to that interview at all.
jordan holmes
That's good vibes.
dan friesen
Some guy wrote a blog post and Alex keeps saying like, oh, you came so highly recommended from the Trump team.
It's just Roger Stone.
He knows Roger Stone.
And it's just like a bunch of people who are the deep state.
jordan holmes
Oh, you got to watch out for them.
They're everywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I found this blog post to be a little bit dumb and full of pictures, though, of people who he wants targeted.
So that's fun.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
But Alex's interview didn't really bring much.
jordan holmes
Unsurprising.
Not a lot of interviews bring in much these days in the far-right spaces.
Feels like they've already said everything that they want to say.
dan friesen
It does feel like it's tough to top.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they don't really have anything to say.
I couldn't be happier with people in politics being like, The aggrievement stuff isn't working, Trump.
You gotta have policies.
It is like, man, nobody gives a fuck.
dan friesen
No, he needs to talk about how much blood his ear has in it.
jordan holmes
You're out of your mind if you think pivoting to policy discussion means anything.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's crazy.
dan friesen
So we got one last clip here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now these are good vibes.
Uh-huh.
Alex is talking about the attempted assassination of Trump.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And, you know, he made some predictions.
And he's been vindicated.
jordan holmes
I don't think so.
alex jones
For those of you that listen daily, you know I said this about probably 50 times or more.
Because I've seen the pattern.
Remember about two months before a white supremacist went into a Buffalo, mainly black grocery store, and killed a whole bunch of people?
I said, I think they're going to attack black grocery stores.
Now, you could ask.
And the FBI has.
How I know this stuff.
And I just take all the data in and then I don't even know how I know it.
It's like, like a code breaker.
I don't know what they're going to do.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
God tells you.
alex jones
I said on air, the day it happened, July 13th, they shot Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
And I said it a bunch of days after that.
We have the archivist pull up if you want.
I said, look for him to be handled by feds, to be going to D.C., and to be getting trained at federal installations or federally funded installations, and look for a Homeland Security connection to him, just like we saw with, remember, I didn't kill the kids at Sandy Hook, but people think that.
Adam Lanza had CIA-FBI connections.
Look it up.
And again, the same pattern happened again.
And Fox News has covered it.
Thomas Crooks trained at shooting range where multiple federal agencies reportedly trained, including DHS, visited the club 43 times, including holidays, since last year.
Attempted Trump assassin Thomas Crooks trained at the same gun range used by DHS.
dan friesen
Who cares?
This is about the shooter having visited the Clareton Sportsman Club outside of Pittsburgh.
It's a big gun range covering 180 acres of land with over 2,000 members.
When Alex sits back and asks himself how is it possible that he made such a great prediction again, it's because he never proves anything.
He can talk shit about this shooter being a fed, but this is all it takes for him to claim that he's been vindicated in his prediction, so it means nothing.
More importantly, in the days around and after the shooting, Alex was insistent that the globalists were going to blow up a black college or try to poison Trump.
So how good were these predictions really?
Oh, it came out that the NSA or the DHS has visited the same gun range that he went to.
What does that mean?
Everyone who's visited this place is probably a suspect then, right?
It would have to be.
All 2,000 members, we need to have a Congress investigate that.
jordan holmes
I mean, ironically, Alex is saying that essentially anybody who owns a gun is a suspect.
dan friesen
Well, definitely, if it were coming out of someone else's mouth, this would be gun grabber talk.
So here's something that I found.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I did a little digging.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I got...
I'm on to something.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So I looked into the Clareton Sportsman Club.
jordan holmes
Not the Clareton Clear Sportsman Club.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Clareton Sportsman's Club.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
On August 4th, earlier this month, they had a full breakfast buffet.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
At 8am?
dan friesen
Bloody Mary specials.
8am to 11am.
All you can eat.
jordan holmes
Eggs.
dan friesen
Bacon.
Sausage.
Ham.
jordan holmes
Delicious.
dan friesen
French toast.
The Fixins.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
All of it.
Now.
I looked at their website.
I went to check this out.
And so they've got, like, you know, steamer trays, keeping things hot, keeping the eggs hot, what have you.
jordan holmes
Chafing dishes.
dan friesen
It looks like, you know, just a hall where people are hanging out, having breakfast.
But I got to the last picture, and I was scandalized that the pancakes are small.
They're little silver dollar pancakes, not full-size pancakes, and therefore...
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
This is what he's using to say that this guy is somehow connected to the feds?
How lazy is this?
jordan holmes
I think that surviving a public assassination attempt through guns raises your fist up.
Very powerful image.
Surviving a poisoning assassination attempt in public not going to give you the image that you want.
What if he was giving a speech and then all of a sudden just threw up all over everybody in front of him like he was a fucking Gallagher 2?
You know?
Like, that is not the enduring image.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
And I want to be clear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No one got food poisoning at that buffet that I know of.
Listen, you can't prove that.
You can't prove that.
I can't, but I don't want you to make implications.
jordan holmes
I'm not making implications.
I am just saying that if you can or can't prove it, I'm just saying that poison is still in play at the Claritin Clear...
dan friesen
Please do not express the knowledge of my podcasts.
jordan holmes
Why else would you make the silver dollar pancakes?
Because there's too much poison for a big pancake, obviously.
dan friesen
I honestly was looking on their website trying to find anything scandalous.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, they're poisoning the pancakes.
dan friesen
I think the only other thing that I was like, oh no, is that they have a shot of the breakfast bar and they have orange juice, right?
And then they have apple juice, which I think is great.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But it's on ice.
And I don't know if I agree with that.
jordan holmes
You don't put your apple juice on ice?
Wait, wait, wait.
The ice is in the apple juice?
unidentified
Weird.
dan friesen
And I'm not sure I would do that.
jordan holmes
That is strange.
dan friesen
I would put the whole thing in ice.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I've never seen anybody put it in ice.
dan friesen
Because you don't want to water down the apple juice.
So I think that's probably something I would take up with them.
alex jones
But other than that.
jordan holmes
You know, I've never done a show in a gun club.
I've done country clubs.
dan friesen
I performed a wedding at a gun range.
jordan holmes
Did you?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Have you ever...
Yeah, I don't think...
I've never been to a place where guns are fired.
dan friesen
I think being, you know, growing up in central Missouri, I was around a little bit of it.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I had some friends who were into guns and stuff.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It is what it is.
dan friesen
It's not really that exciting.
jordan holmes
Some people like it.
I'm not going to take away the enjoyment of it for people who enjoy it.
I think it would just be...
It's a context to do a comedy show or something like that.
A country club was a terrible place for it.
But, you know, they were there.
dan friesen
But if you're at a country club, you're not going to be performing on the links.
jordan holmes
No, totally.
dan friesen
And if you're doing a show at a gun range, you're not going to be performing with everyone shooting next to you or anything.
You're going to be in the house.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's the way it's got to go.
dan friesen
No, I think it would just be a room.
jordan holmes
Okay, so here's what you do.
You have a gun show.
Gun comedy show.
Everybody's wearing helicopter pilot helmets, right?
Or earphones.
So they don't get the gun range noises, but they can still hear you.
dan friesen
Are you thinking of an inside or outside gun range?
jordan holmes
You know, this is a very good question.
For everybody.
dan friesen
Because this is an outdoor one.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Well, 180 acres does seem too big for a room.
dan friesen
I think it would be difficult to have a comedy show at a shooting range inside.
Like one of those ones that has the booths.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that would be a real challenge.
jordan holmes
That would be a struggle.
And also, it would probably be an issue if you were shooting and had to laugh.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex sucks.
I would say this episode was...
Pretty interesting to me, because you have the very obvious the night before disappointment with the interview, and then the need to somehow salvage it.
So just bragging about the numbers, and then this turning into this internal struggle that he has of everyone loves me that becomes text.
The subtext becomes text.
When he says, this is just an internal monologue that I have, I just...
Totally.
And then it just descends into some of the most disgusting, Islamophobic, xenophobic, exploitative of sexual assault shit that I've heard on his show in quite a while.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And the stark...
Like, psychology of it, of, like, the massive disappointment, the hangover requiring him to be like, I am a good person, and then in order to justify how good a person he is, he has to claim that everybody else is a bad person.
dan friesen
Well, and I think the juxtaposition of this is something that is important, is that, like, this shit that he's talking about migrants...
Has as much validity as people giving him $100 at every restaurant that he goes to.
They come from the same place inside him.
These are not like...
Not like one's serious and the other isn't.
jordan holmes
No, they're intertwined.
They're not just from the same place.
It's like they feed each other.
The more racist and awful and inner monologue he is, the more likely, I guess, people are to give him a hundred fucking dollars.
dan friesen
So also, this Clareton Sportsman Club, who is definitely not a sponsor of our show, they have a muzzle-loading group.
jordan holmes
I have no idea what that is.
dan friesen
So, like, old-time guns that have to, like, load the...
jordan holmes
I actually fully support that.
dan friesen
Yeah, the powder.
jordan holmes
Fully support that.
dan friesen
You have to put the powder and the ball in there.
jordan holmes
Those are the only guns that should exist.
dan friesen
And I do...
I don't know this for sure, but I would assume that they all have to come and...
Old time dress.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
Otherwise, what's the point?
dan friesen
You can't be wearing modern clothes and putting the powder down with the little stick.
jordan holmes
No, you can't be dressed like a b-boy and doing a powder muzzle.
No, that's not happening.
dan friesen
Doesn't work.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex sucks.
This is trash.
But we'll be back for another episode.
Maybe.
jordan holmes
This was great analysis on the interview, though.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
I got a lot out of it.
jordan holmes
I just want to be clear that I hadn't listened to all of the interviews, so thankfully this has cleared it up for me.
dan friesen
I think by the time Alex got to the studio for this show, he hadn't listened to all of it either, because he talked over a ton of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think he went back.
No.
But we'll be back.
jordan holmes
We will be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Neo.
DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
dan friesen
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
jordan holmes
And now...
steve quayle
Here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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