#951: August 2, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to find Alex cracking the case of Trump's attempted assassination and reuniting with an old friend from England.
Aug. 5, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:10:27
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Dan and Jordan. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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I need money. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
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Oh, indeed we are. | |
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| Where do you go first? | ||
| My bright spot is my wife. | ||
| Okay, so a lot of the times my problems... | ||
| I solve with answers like this. | ||
| Eventually I'll die. | ||
| I mean, it's harder to have more scale than that. | ||
| Eventually I'll die. | ||
| We call that perspective. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So we have this comforter. | ||
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The same comforter that I think I've had for almost 30 years. | |
| And we've been using it and both of us for the longest time have been waking up just... | ||
| Drenched in sweat. | ||
| There's something about the hot, cold thing. | ||
| Seems like it's not a comforting comforter. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Miserable. | ||
| Miserable! | ||
| Awful experience. | ||
| But my solution was eventually we'll die. | ||
| And then she was like, we could just get a different comforter. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Very smart. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| You both have good points. | ||
| No, very much. | ||
| We will one day die, so who gives a fuck about this comforter? | ||
| We don't need to use it. | ||
| We don't need to die. | ||
| Like this. | ||
| So yeah, so she stepped up. | ||
| Made the purchase of a cool umforter. | ||
| It's a comforter, but it's also cool. | ||
| I don't know how it works in science. | ||
| It breathes. | ||
| Something like that? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's always cold to the touch. | ||
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It's magic. | |
| It's demon-powered cold comforter. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's cold comfort. | ||
| No, it's warm comfort on a cool surface. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I know that I have in the past bought a pillow that claimed it would always be cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I did find that disappointing, but it was a while back, so I don't know if technology's gotten better. | ||
| I'm telling you, this honestly makes me like... | ||
| Afraid. | ||
| Of the future? | ||
| Makes you think maybe you'll never die. | ||
| It is always cold. | ||
| It is always cold. | ||
| It makes me... | ||
| Like I was talking about... | ||
| She's been secretly putting it in the freezer when you've been out of the house. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Whatever she's doing, it worked. | ||
| So I'm happy. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| SummerSlam was last night. | ||
| SummerSlam. | ||
| A lot of fun. | ||
| Roman Reigns came back. | ||
| That guy has it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You just feel it. | ||
| When he walks into a room, he's good. | ||
| He's good at what he does. | ||
| He has a presence. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It takes a long time to build those. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very... | ||
| It was interesting to watch because outside of Uncle Howdy, I don't feel like there's anybody else who walks into a room and it's like, ooh, things are different now. | ||
| But Uncle Howdy, still lurking in the background, made no appearance at SummerSlam, which makes sense because it's summer. | ||
| You don't want a guy with a top hat and a crazy leather coat on? | ||
| The Wyatts are not summer people. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I understand. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Supernatural apparitions do often think of the weather, whatever. | ||
| You don't want to see Uncle Howdy in that, like, Borat sling swimsuit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It just doesn't, it's incongruent. | ||
| The Headless Horseman was never in a tropical environment. | ||
| Only in the cold and rain of the Northeast, my friends. | ||
| I am a little bit missing whatever's going on. | ||
| You know, like, I want more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that's probably what you aspire for in a business. | ||
| You want people to want more, and I currently want more of the howdies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, congratulations. | ||
| Anyway, we've got an episode to go over today, Jordan. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So, we're going to be talking about August 2nd, 2024. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That is Friday. | ||
| Friday. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're going to talk about Friday. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Everything sucks. | ||
| Everything sucks. | ||
| On his show. | ||
| It sucks so much. | ||
| On our last episode, he was talking about how he's the ghost in the machine and all this other crazy bullshit. | ||
| That was on Thursday. | ||
| And now here we are on Friday, and you'll see what happens. | ||
| You know, it's like, I think everyone's gone to where Alex was 15 years ago. | ||
| And just, we've all, like, frog-boiled our whole thing. | ||
| And now Alex is in that place of either you get, you go pro if you're weird, or you turn into, like, just everybody else. | ||
| And I don't feel like he's bringing anything different from your average garden variety transphobe. | ||
| That's, I mean, content-wise, that's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there isn't really much that sets him apart on a content level. | ||
| From J.K. Wright! | ||
| Right, or from any ding-dong on Twitter. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That is challenging, because how do you evolve the form? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what you have to do. | ||
| And I think that the two things that we've noticed that are potentially, like, what makes you special? | ||
| Right. | ||
| One, he's on a quest from God. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And other people can't claim that. | ||
| They'll never get there. | ||
| He's got 20 years behind it. | ||
| And second, he has Chase Geyser. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the two of them have a dynamic that is electric. | ||
| A brand new dynamic for the far right that they've never seen before. | ||
| I think that those things are valuable in elevating the form. | ||
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But... | |
| You know, we're devoid of any of that today and a lot of days. | ||
| So it's just kind of like just standard bullshit. | ||
| But we'll get down to business on talking about exactly how it's bullshit. | ||
| But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, thank you so much to Lane thinks Ro is the cutest policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Hey, Ashley. | ||
| Yes, you, Ashley. | ||
| I love you from Bitch Face Tomato Nose. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Next, imagine Alex Jones as a skibbity toilet. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That one had an exclamation point. | ||
| I genuinely don't know what that means. | ||
| I'm not sure either. | ||
| I put it in there because I was going to ask you. | ||
| Oh, I thought it's a reference to Scatman. | ||
| Skibi-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di-di. | ||
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But I don't think it is. | |
| I thought it was a specific type of toilet or like a new meme about toilets. | ||
| It probably is. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I love being old. | ||
| Next, Ben Artist. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Skibbitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybitybity I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much. | ||
| To Ambrose Adelstone, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So I told you, I believe on our last episode, that there is a feeling of a bit of treading water. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump, there was an attempted assassination. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There have been some hearings about this, and there's inquiries going on, investigations. | ||
| And Alex has just jumped to the conclusion. | ||
| He's made up his mind on what the story is. | ||
| He doesn't need any information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Secret Service planned it all out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They stood down, but also probably were actively involved. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| It's just kind of this weird, boring conspiracy space where he's just decided on his storyline, and he's just going to keep pushing. | ||
| It's not that good. | ||
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No. 20 days ago, in Butler, Pennsylvania, the deep state tried to kill President Trump, and I told you that day it was a clear stand-down. | |
| I have followed and studied how the Secret Service operates going back to the days of Abraham Lincoln. | ||
| And at key points in history, they stand down so that presidents can be killed. | ||
| They stood down with Lincoln. | ||
| They stood down, of course, with JFK. | ||
| They stood down with Ronald Reagan. | ||
| They stood down with President Trump. | ||
| And we now have multiple high-level whistleblowers from the Secret Service and local police all telling the same story. | ||
| No threat assessment team that makes the calls into the snipers and gives the orders on who to kill was there. | ||
| And the now acting director, who was the deputy director at the time, Ronald Rowe, who testified this week that he didn't know who cut down the staff. | ||
| He lied directly, even worse than Fauci lied. | ||
| Totally cut and dry. | ||
| To the Senate, serious felony crimes, and said repeatedly, we aired the clips here, you saw them, it was all over the news, that he didn't know, and that standard procedure was being followed. | ||
| All of that is a lie. | ||
| He gave the direct orders. | ||
| So he did it. | ||
| It was this rogue guy. | ||
| I mean, I guess we figured it out. | ||
| Yeah, we do. | ||
| They have the whole roadmap now, apparently. | ||
| None of this is based on reality. | ||
| I do also just think there's something fascinating about how... | ||
| Serious and not serious lying to Congress is. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Like, it's very, very serious right now. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Not so serious when, you know, like, Roger does it. | ||
| No, I do love in real life whenever people are like, oh, he lied to Congress, and I'm like, hey, calm it down, buddy. | ||
| There's legal, and then there's, you know. | ||
| I think that it's strange, because I think we have to have a respect for these, like, bodies of public. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| It's always got to be something that you're in trouble if you lie to them. | ||
| But I always think about this in terms of, like, if a cop asks you, did you commit that murder, generally you're going to say no. | ||
| And then should you be charged with lying to a cop? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think you should be charged with trying to escape a prison. | ||
| It makes sense for you to try and escape a prison. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| The impetus is it makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, you shouldn't be... | ||
| Punished for that. | ||
| If you escape from a prison, that is the prison's fault. | ||
| It is the prison's job to keep you there. | ||
| By that same kind of rationale, if you were committing a crime, you should lie to Congress. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I don't know if society functions. | ||
| I mean, listen, don't be a cop! | ||
| It's the cop's job to be a cop. | ||
| If the cops... | ||
| Listen, how about this? | ||
| So don't be in Congress? | ||
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All right. | |
| Think about that. | ||
| Well, if they want to be respected, you should probably earn your respect. | ||
| It's a side conversation. | ||
| Yeah, fair enough. | ||
| But I was just kind of bored. | ||
| You know, like, we've got this case that Alex has cracked. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| With no cracking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I was like, I got nothing here. | ||
| It's Friday. | ||
| This sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then this happened. | ||
| So that's where we are, and we're going to go walking through all of this today, and there's so much other insane news. | ||
| We've got some big guests coming on, Tommy Robinson, who just got arrested. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Fuck me. | ||
| We're leading tens of thousands in a peaceful protest in England, arrested for terrorism. | ||
| Police said protesting open borders is terror. | ||
| The Prime Minister's come out and defended the young black illegal alien that stabbed and killed three young children and said that basically they're the bad people. | ||
| It's just completely over the top. | ||
| So Tommy Robinson is back, and now we really should feel like we're just doing 2016 again. | ||
| I mean, this is bad. | ||
| Because this is shit. | ||
| This is trash. | ||
| We've discussed him in great detail in the past, so to give a brief refresher, Tommy Robinson is a career violent street agitator and anti-Muslim propagandist who exists solely to attack immigrants and then play the victim to encourage other white people to attack immigrants further. | ||
| We've seen him involved in a number of hoaxes over the years meant to incite rage against immigrants, and he's involved in another one now. | ||
| This has to do with the case of Axel Raducabana, a 17-year-old from the UK who is charged with killing three young girls at a Southport Taylor Swift-themed yoga and dance workshop. | ||
| Obviously, the case is horrifying and a complete tragedy, and I don't mean to minimize any of that. | ||
| In the aftermath of the attack and arrest, the details about the perpetrator's identity were kept private because he was 17, which is normal in the United Kingdom. | ||
| They don't always release these details. | ||
| When he was seen at the Liverpool Crown Court, however, the judge did not impose this prohibition for the case, so the media was able to cover the details about the charged person. | ||
| In the meantime, in that period where no one knew any details, right-wing anti-immigrant agitators like Tommy Robinson began a campaign to blame migration for these murders. | ||
| They were certain that the attacker was a migrant, and if the government had just bowed to their white nationalist demands, this guy would have never been there to carry this attack out, and the fact that they weren't releasing details about him was proof that they were covering it up, as opposed to him being a 17-year-old and them not... | ||
| Releasing that stuff all the time. | ||
| This narrative stuck and it prompted days of protest that at times broke out into violence. | ||
| However, once the suspect was seen in court and his identity was revealed, it turns out that he was born in Britain, he wasn't an immigrant, and has no known connections to terrorism. | ||
| The folks like Tommy Robinson want to fight. | ||
| They want street violence and they will take or manufacture any opportunity to incite it. | ||
| Prime Minister Keir Starmer put it quite well, quote, Tommy Robinson is one of the most high-profile people who's absolutely bent on violence, and he has been for years. | ||
| It's very distressing to see him on this show, particularly at this point, when there's every reason to know that the premise of the outrage that he is the front person, Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
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There is no excuse to associate with Tommy Robinson in 2024. | |
| Sure. | ||
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You know better. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Incidentally, just today, it's coming out that this violence has been spreading. | ||
| In Rotterdam, police faced down with a violent crowd trying to storm a hotel where asylum seekers were housed. | ||
| This mob sought to kill the migrants housed there and set the building on fire. | ||
| The AP covered the story and said, quote, rallying cries have come from a diffuse group of social media accounts, but a key player in amplifying them is Stephen Yexley Lennon, a longtime far-right agitator who uses the name Tommy Robinson. | ||
| He led the English Defense League, which Mercydale Police has linked to the violent protest in Southport on Tuesday, a day after the stabbing attack. | ||
| Tommy Robinson is actively involved in trying to incite real-world violence against migrants in the UK, and it's having its desired effect. | ||
| Alex is an active and eager participant in that effort, which I hope ends up being a problem for him. | ||
| As Prime Minister Starmer said, This is not a protest. | ||
| It's organized violent thuggery, and it has no place in our streets or online. | ||
| And so Tommy is coming on to basically make things worse. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Listen, I don't think the government should say out loud that a certain group of people is bent on violence, because that kind of eliminates any possibility of talking to them. | ||
| So if that's the case, then they have to step up. | ||
| Because they're not doing that. | ||
| So if you're going to claim that other people are bent on violence and then do fuck all about it, I mean, somebody should. | ||
| I don't know if that's necessarily the case. | ||
| Just because someone's bent on violence doesn't necessarily... | ||
| It doesn't mean that they're going to get their violence. | ||
| Well, I mean, they started a lynch mob. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they tried to build or light a hotel on fire. | ||
| So that's over. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| For every single person there, that's over. | ||
| There is no talking. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's them or you. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But it also wasn't police. | ||
| It wasn't devoid of a police response. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Not necessarily that the police were able to control everything. | ||
| Did the police stop anybody from doing anything? | ||
| I don't know all the details on it. | ||
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They don't exist. | |
| So I can't say, but I know that there were a bunch of police there that were obviously part of holding them back. | ||
| I mean, there were a bunch of police involved in it, so good work. | ||
| Illegal is illegal. | ||
| Look, shit's bad. | ||
| I mean, no matter how you slice it. | ||
| Yeah, no, if the government says it, then that's trouble. | ||
| Because now, because the problem with, if Kare Starmer says that, And then I do something, and then you prosecute me. | ||
| My defense is Kerr Starmer. | ||
| And that should be a valid defense, period. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| The government said it. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| It is just that defense is equally valid to Tommy Robinson's followers attacking somebody. | ||
| And that's why Kerr Starmer can't do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because if Tommy Robinson, if your defense is Tommy Robinson and my defense is Kerr Starmer... | ||
| Then what are we even fucking doing here? | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're just fighting. | ||
| I do think that there's a large difference between the rhetoric that comes out of folks like Tommy and Keir Starmer. | ||
| There was. | ||
| And that's what's important. | ||
| If there was a difference, that would matter. | ||
| But if the moment you claim that these people are only out for one thing and there is no talking to them and you're the fucking Prime Minister... | ||
| That's trouble. | ||
| I don't know if in the quotes that I read, there's no talking to them was in there. | ||
| These people are bent on violence. | ||
| Are only bent on violence. | ||
| No. | ||
| Absolutely bent on violence. | ||
| Not only. | ||
| That's even worse! | ||
| It's splitting hairs. | ||
| That's even worse! | ||
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Absolutely is the end of conversation. | |
| Absolute! | ||
| I do still think that there's a massive difference between Tommy and Starmer. | ||
| While I respect that, I think ten years ago there was. | ||
| And I don't think we live in that world anymore. | ||
| And that's his choice, not Tommy Robinson. | ||
| I think that there is a bluntness and a slightly less guarded political phrasing of what is being said by Starmer. | ||
| But I don't think it's even close. | ||
| So anyway, let's skip off this topic for a second while Alex says something really dumb. | ||
| Huge news on the economy, obviously, with the stock market and these job numbers that are so bad coming out. | ||
| Thanks to Gavin Newsom, the biggest business booster for Texas, our great state's ever seen, Chevron, that's Standard Oil, folks, that's Rockefeller, is coming to Tejas that will bring hundreds of billions of dollars in the next few years to the state. | ||
| So that exodus continues. | ||
| Shouldn't Alex see this as a sign that Texas has bad policies? | ||
| If the monopoly-hungry Rockefeller oil company feels like it's in their business interest to leave California and go to Texas, it heavily implies that Texas is much more of a friendly place for monopoly-hungry evil corporations. | ||
| I don't think Alex fully thought this one through before he started celebrating the money that's going to come into the state. | ||
| Principles are a little bit undercut by this. | ||
| The Rockefellers are coming! | ||
| I'm stoked! | ||
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Yay! | |
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Rockefellers and all their evil stuff isn't working out in California because the government has made policies that make it more difficult for the evil Rockefellers to operate. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| We're in trouble on this one. | ||
| That seems dumb. | ||
| Don't think too hard. | ||
| So Alex rambles a bit about Fort Ticonderoga and how he's like those soldiers. | ||
| He's a winter soldier. | ||
| He doesn't cut and run when the going gets tough. | ||
| Politically, the winner is here. | ||
| And most people have not gotten ready for this. | ||
| And so we're not sunshine patriots. | ||
| We're winner soldiers. | ||
| So the analogy continues on into that area. | ||
| You know what a sunshine patriot is versus a winner soldier? | ||
| Sunshine patriots are always happy to be on a bandwagon. | ||
| They're always happy to act like they care and virtue signal. | ||
| But the winner soldier fights. | ||
| When their shoes have fallen apart. | ||
| Alex quit on the show yesterday because they played the right clip, but he thought it was the wrong one. | ||
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He is no fucking Winter Soldier. | |
| He leaves his own show at the mildest of inconveniences. | ||
| So that's just funny. | ||
| So Alex gets back onto the topic of the Secret Service. | ||
| And he just kind of guesses about a bunch of stuff. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so we need to continue to be pissed off and angry. | ||
| They want us to forget what they tried to do. | ||
| They want us just to go away. | ||
| No, we need maximum pressure. | ||
| We need to remove the new head of the Secret Service. | ||
| And we need to impeach Merrick Garland, who you know gave the orders, and Alexander Mayorkas, Alejandro Mayorkas. | ||
| These are evil criminals, folks. | ||
| They didn't just take a shot at Trump. | ||
| They took a shot at you. | ||
| And they're a bunch of scum. | ||
| And this guy's a big Democrat. | ||
| He's always worked for Democrats. | ||
| He is a slime bag. | ||
| He is an enemy of your family. | ||
| He's an enemy of this country. | ||
| He tried to kill our president. | ||
| I guarantee you, they were running that operation, had that guy wound up. | ||
| I would imagine he probably gave the orders. | ||
| Guaranteed. | ||
| You know it. | ||
| That was fast. | ||
| Guess what you missed, you piece of shit. | ||
| Is this what we do? | ||
| Is this how we get to the bottom of the real news? | ||
| I imagine. | ||
| I bet that's what happens. | ||
| I guarantee that's what happens. | ||
| See, that's fast. | ||
| That's too fast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you imagine to guarantee with less than one sentence between them, not good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| My whims become reality once I speak them. | ||
| I like the idea. | ||
| So here's what's interesting to me, all right? | ||
| He named a bunch of times that presidents were almost assassinated or successfully assassinated. | ||
| Stand down. | ||
| And then the Secret Service stood down every time. | ||
| But the thing about that is that the Secret Service had to have stood down in different ways every time. | ||
| True. | ||
| So there's somebody, or people, a whole... | ||
| Group of people within the Secret Service who are more than aware of how exactly to stand down to allow the president to be put in danger. | ||
| And have to. | ||
| They're tasked with coming up with new ways. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's like a writer's room. | ||
| They can't do it the same way every time. | ||
| Every assassination is unique. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this one has Rose fingerprints all over it. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| So Alex believes that Trump needs to do something to get ahead of this. | ||
| And that is basically he needs to give a speech from the Godfather to these damn globalists. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He gets into that here. | ||
| I said, next they're going to say Iran's going to kill Trump. | ||
| And then they're going to start a war with Iran, which you now see happening, and blow Trump up or something, or shoot his airplane down and say that it was the Iranians. | ||
| And then they came out and said that. | ||
| I mean, I'm inside their heads. | ||
| But what else did I say around here? | ||
| I said, Trump has to come out, and he can pack the local secret, the Secret Service that, you know, try to protect him and say, okay, they're good. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But he's got to say Mayorkas and Roe and Garland are guilty of this. | ||
| It's obvious the people know it. | ||
| He doesn't just go back to Butler to draw attention to this. | ||
| He needs to do it now. | ||
| Not through his surrogates, not through Don Jr., not through J.D. Vance, not through Alex Jones, not through Tucker Carlson. | ||
| He has to do it himself. | ||
| This is a no-brainer. | ||
| The people know it's true. | ||
| And Trump has to say, I'm really concerned they're going to try to kill me again. | ||
| They clearly stood down. | ||
| He can go over the evidence. | ||
| He can talk about it, and he needs to talk about it every day. | ||
| Because they're going to try again. | ||
| But if he lets them know that if I get killed, like the Godfather says in that famous scene, guys, pull up Godfather commission meeting. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Godfather one commission meeting. | ||
| They're all around a big table. | ||
| And one mob boss's son's been killed, and Don Corleone's son's been killed, and he says, I won't be the one to break the peace as long as I'm alive, but I'm a, you know, person that loves my family, and I have selfish reasons. | ||
| I don't want any of my other family killed, and so I will not break the peace if you don't, and so they make a deal. | ||
| But he says, but let me say this. | ||
| If my other son, Michael, who's now coming back to the United States, You know, killed the police captain. | ||
| It's all based on true stories. | ||
| Let's change the names. | ||
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Is it? | |
| When he comes back, if he should be struck by a bolt of lightning, or if a police officer should shoot him in the head, or if he should fall down some stairs, I added that. | ||
| I'm going to blame everybody in this room. | ||
| Good punch-up. | ||
| And Trump needs to explain that right now. | ||
| Get out of the way. | ||
| Let us save the country. | ||
| You don't want a civil war. | ||
| You're going to lose this fight. | ||
| But if you kill me, everybody needs to know you did it. | ||
| That's the no-brainer. | ||
| And he needs to do it. | ||
| He needs to do it right now. | ||
| But they gotta kill Trump. | ||
| That's the key. | ||
| Trump needs to be like a mob boss. | ||
| He's not a mob boss, though. | ||
| He's not at all like Don Corley. | ||
| He needs to act like that. | ||
| He needs to do the things that the mob did in this movie that I like. | ||
| Eventually, Do you think there's a single moment where Alex gets to the point where he's like, I always tell people to do what the bad guy does. | ||
| Always. | ||
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Well... | |
| I mean, it has to be somewhere in his mind. | ||
| Because, I mean, he does the Star Wars Imperial. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But, I mean, that one you can defend as just, like, Darth Vader's coolest shit with the theme song, John Williams. | ||
| It's a well-made theme song. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then you got James Earl Jones. | ||
| You got the, he's six foot ten. | ||
| You know, it's great. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Sure, he does the Palpatine voice a lot. | ||
| Sure, all of that is classic culture. | ||
| He does, also seems to quote Baron Harkonnen a lot. | ||
| Again, see, that one's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| That one doesn't get more monstrous than Baron Harkonnen. | ||
| On purpose. | ||
| Yeah, maybe he's a little into villains. | ||
| Might be. | ||
| But yeah, I like this retelling of the scene. | ||
| This is where I think that Alex might have some awareness that Trump is more useful to him if they actually do kill him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But especially if Trump does do this speech and is like, if I die, it was you. | ||
| That is not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| It does kind of set a really prime opportunity for an accelerationist who's really looking for some sort of trouble to kill Trump after he has set down the gauntlet that if I die, it was you. | ||
| If in 2024 Trump comes out and is like... | ||
| You should not believe the official story if I die, period. | ||
| Then we're screwed. | ||
| I'm not even talking about a civil war. | ||
| I'm just like, no one will ever believe the truth or reality ever again. | ||
| It's tenuous as it is. | ||
| Yeah, why would you? | ||
| So Alex plays a little bit of Roe, the acting Secret Service head, plays a little bit of the testimony, and just kind of yells over it quite a bit. | ||
| Helpful. | ||
| The Department of Homeland Security's Office of the Inspector General in the independent review directed by President Biden. | ||
| Start measuring your prison outfit. | ||
| The Secret Service's Office of Professional Responsibility is currently conducting a mission assurance review. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| As I stated, I'm not waiting for the completion of those reports. | ||
| And I've directed the Secret Service to take immediate steps. | ||
| He ordered the stand down. | ||
| He lied to Congress and said he wasn't. | ||
| Guaranteed he was in on the planning. | ||
| Probably wound up a shooter. | ||
| There's the culprit right there. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| He's the guy. | ||
| Mayorkas, they met. | ||
| They planned it. | ||
| He's the guy. | ||
| He's the guy. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| That's the guy I've killed from. | ||
| That's him. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| That's him. | ||
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You think those little games you play can fool a Corleone, buddy? | |
| We know it's you. | ||
| You think those games can fool a Corleone? | ||
| So wait, now he's in the mob? | ||
| Yeah, everyone's mobbed up. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So this, I mean, this is just what you kind of want if you're Alex's audience. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| But it doesn't, actually, we haven't seen a ton of it. | ||
| This feels more 2016, too. | ||
| This, like, Alex really getting pumped and excited, yelling responses at a video. | ||
| This is, like, his stelter days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder, you know... | ||
| It's cathartic. | ||
| I think if he was in Congress, he wouldn't be like... | ||
| The only difference between him and most of Congress would be he's saying it out loud. | ||
| Half the people in Congress would be like, shut up, you're stupid, I hate you. | ||
| I'm a congressman. | ||
| I don't know, have you watched any of the hearings? | ||
| They're just usually quiet and they yell stuff at people. | ||
| No, I mean, like, there isn't that much difference. | ||
| It's just they follow the rules. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| You know, like, Matt Gaetz will still be like, hey, buddy, you committed all these. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Oh, so he'll do it. | ||
| He'll just do the whole thing. | ||
| I think, like, I don't know what sense you could get from watching clips and stuff, but I was watching the, like, full hearings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, like, yeah, some of those people are real dicks. | ||
| Oh, well then, you should lie to Congress. | ||
| I think the difference between Alex and some of these people are like, he can't control himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And these people can control themselves, like Matt Gaetz or Jim Jordan can control themselves to speak when it's their turn and be a dick, as opposed to Alex, who just can't. | ||
| He just, I'm just going to be a dick all the time. | ||
| So let's hear a little more of that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You're a Democrat operative. | ||
| You ran the attack. | ||
| We know you did it. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| You're the suspect. | ||
| You're the bad guy. | ||
| You order the stand down. | ||
| You. | ||
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You. | |
| Ronald Rowe. | ||
| You. | ||
| Be held responsible for a Secret Service failure. | ||
| That's you. | ||
| Order the stand down. | ||
| You. | ||
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You. | |
| You are the traitor. | ||
| You are the plague. | ||
| You are the enemy. | ||
|
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You. | |
| You. | ||
| You are the enemy! | ||
| The information provided today is based on what I know now to a degree of certainty. | ||
| We will learn more as interviews are completed and further evidence is gathered and analyzed. | ||
| And I will share more information as it becomes available. | ||
| But I can say without a doubt that heroism was present that day. | ||
| Secret Service agents rushed to the stage to shield the former president with their bodies. | ||
| Within three seconds of bullets ringing out in an unflinching act of bravery. | ||
| The Secret Service counter-sniper who neutralized the threat with a single shot undoubtedly saved countless lives. | ||
| Despite you not putting a command and control system in place. | ||
| We're in high operational tempo. | ||
| And I need and I want our Secret Service workforce, the dedicated men and women of the Secret Service. | ||
| I want to know and I want to make sure that they are uplifted. | ||
| So they can focus on carrying out the mission. | ||
| Yeah, stop attacking me. | ||
| I'm going to follow Secret Service and make it about them. | ||
| Disgusting blob. | ||
| And let me take a moment to speak to the American people that are counting on us. | ||
| We know you did it. | ||
| We know you're scared and you should be, pal. | ||
| You little criminal. | ||
| He ran the attack. | ||
| He ran the attack. | ||
| He's behind it. | ||
| He met with Mayorkas. | ||
| They planned it all out. | ||
| It's all going to come out. | ||
| There's a sack of shit like you. | ||
| He's so pissed they didn't kill Trump. | ||
| Yeah, you miss, you little bastard. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is a very childish energy, I would say. | ||
| And it leaves me with one question. | ||
| Did he plan it? | ||
| Did he do this? | ||
| If I was going to devise a Bill and Ted-style hell for a hard, honest, just regular-ass person who's trying to do their best, it would be forcing them to sit in Congress trying to explain what happened while Alex does that to them. | ||
| That is hell. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, even just having to watch it. | ||
| I'm glad that there are commercial breaks, you know, like from Alex's show. | ||
| If I had to watch that in perpetuity, even I would go mad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So yeah, it's a lot of that. | ||
| There's a whole bunch of that. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Alex talks about how he's made it so they can't kill Trump now, apparently. | ||
| But they're still going to do it. | ||
| They're still totally going to do it. | ||
| But they can't now because public opinion has turned against it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's turned against it. | ||
| Stand down. | ||
| He lied to Congress. | ||
| And they control the Justice Department, so he thinks he's safe. | ||
| But why is he so scared? | ||
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Because the public opinion is totally against him, and now they can't kill Trump because they know they'll get the blame, which is what I told you 20 days ago is kiki-kiki. | |
| Kiki-kiki-kiki. | ||
| Kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki. | ||
| Everybody say kiki-kiki-kiki-kiki. | ||
| Kiki-kiki-kiki. | ||
| Trump has to come out and expose them kiki-kiki. | ||
| You think I'm risking my life to lose this son of a bitch? | ||
| I got these people's name. | ||
| I got their number. | ||
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I've got their ass! | |
| And we can all stand up and be men and say, I don't know how this is all going to end, but if you guys want to fight, you better believe you've got one! | ||
| How about fighting Tommy Robinson, arresting for terrorism, for having a peaceful demonstration in England? | ||
| It's all coming up today. | ||
| But the enemy's on the run, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Humanity has awakened! | ||
| He did the catchphrase. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| So apparently a sign of humanity waking up is Tommy Robinson being arrested for terrorism? | ||
| He got some weird messaging. | ||
| So at this point, Tommy had been arrested for breaching an order saying that he cannot repeat very specific lies that he's told in the past. | ||
| This traces back to how he was successfully sued by a Syrian teenager named Jamal Hijazi, who Tommy had falsely accused of violence and who Tommy had led a media campaign against. | ||
| As a part of the case's conclusion, it was made clear to Tommy that he needed to stop making the underlying claims that got him sued because they weren't true. | ||
| He was just slandering a teenager. | ||
| That case ended in July 2021, but recently Tommy has started making these claims again. | ||
| Quote, including in a film distributed online, according to the BBC. | ||
| This has to do with a documentary about him called Silenced, in which he pretends that he was right about all the lies he told, which he was telling to incite hatred against migrants. | ||
| He was warned that releasing this film would be in violation of the order that stemmed from the lawsuit he lost, but then about 48 hours later, Tommy screened the film at a protest in Trafalgar Square. | ||
| That's the wrong place to screen it. | ||
| Tommy was ordered to appear before the high court to determine if his actions were in violation of the court's order, and they definitely were. | ||
| But in the time before that court date, Tommy was caught at the Channel Tunnel Terminal in Folkestone, which gave police a strong sense that he was planning to flee the country, so they arrested him. | ||
| He was held briefly, released on bail, and then he proceeded to flee the country. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| At the point of this interview, there's violence breaking out against migrants due to complete lies that Tommy has been selling about the dance class attacker being a migrant. | ||
| As this goes down, the crowds chant his name while he's been hiding out in a luxury resort in Cyprus. | ||
| He's doing this interview with Alex from his suite in that fancy vacation spot where he gets to chase publicity and crowdfund more vacation bucks by inciting terrorist actions against vulnerable people. | ||
| Of all the people in Alex's orbit, there are very few who are as clearly monstrous as Tommy He's been transparently a fraud and a violent bigot since the very beginning I mean, the irony of hearing this story so soon after is that I think the only way that the judge or any judge could appropriately deal with Tommy Robinson is to go, you! | ||
| You did it! | ||
| It's you! | ||
| You're the one who did it! | ||
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You did it! | |
| You! | ||
| It's you! | ||
| We know you did it! | ||
| It was you! | ||
| We saw it on the Trafalgar Square! | ||
| It's you! | ||
| You did it! | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, this next clip, before we get to Tommy coming on, I think this is one of the funniest things you can hear. | ||
| I think it's a great moment. | ||
| I'll just give you a little bit of a spoiler. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex tries to do a dramatic monologue, but gets interrupted by a pre-recording of him doing a dramatic monologue. | ||
| There's a real perfect moment you gotta listen for here. | ||
| Alright, well now I don't think I'll ever believe in reality. | ||
| Mic down for this. | ||
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Mic down for this. | |
| Friday, August 2nd, 2024. | ||
| The world is awakening. | ||
| The globalists are in full panic mode. | ||
| These are the times that try men and women's souls. | ||
| Tommy Robbins has had 100,000 people in London protest peacefully against the takeover. | ||
| A digital frontier. | ||
| Alex had re-recorded himself doing a speech from Tron, and he forgot that that was in this audio that he was playing. | ||
| He cut himself off. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I mean, that moment is honestly, like, it really spiritually speaks to what Alex is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's on the nose. | ||
| It is so much of his show now is stuff that you would not get away with writing. | ||
| Ten years ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People would be like, listen. | ||
| Remarkable self-pare. | ||
| Try subtext. | ||
| Try subtext one time. | ||
| The grid. | ||
| Shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm in the middle of this. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| I'll let it run. | ||
| So Tommy comes on and he discusses his rally a little bit here. | ||
| Then we've done another one on the 27th of July called Unite the Kingdom, which was to unify the entire British population on the streets against... | ||
| Mass, uncontrolled immigration. | ||
| And to give us back our identity as British people to celebrate our culture and our identity, which is also being taken from us. | ||
| We feel like aliens in our own towns and cities. | ||
| We feel like our culture is disappearing and our country is under attack. | ||
| And whilst we do that, the government tell us to celebrate it. | ||
| Well, we're fed up of celebrating that. | ||
| And celebrating diversity and celebrating LGBTQ+. | ||
| We want to celebrate our identity and our fight in spirit as British people to resist tyranny. | ||
| And that's what we come out on the 27th to do. | ||
| It was the biggest gathering. | ||
| It was the largest gathering of patriots London's ever seen. | ||
| And do you know what's upset them? | ||
| It was totally peaceful. | ||
| It was totally peaceful. | ||
| We set up. | ||
| We literally had a festival in Trafalgar Square. | ||
| It's never been done. | ||
| So the game Tommy is playing here is really transparent if you just pay a little bit of attention. | ||
| Here's how the recipe goes. | ||
| You start with a rally that's based around intense dog whistling that borders on messaging saying something like, us whites are taking the country back. | ||
| This will attract a crowd, both of your supporters and of counter-protesters, and the odds of some kind of chaos breaking out that'll get you media attention is pretty good. | ||
| You've got a good chance of this being something that's explosive. | ||
| To guarantee that you're able to play the victim, You can air a documentary that explicitly violates the terms of a lawsuit that you previously lost at said rally. | ||
| That way, even if no chaos breaks out, there is a damn good chance that you're going to end up getting arrested for this rally, and you can pretend that you're being persecuted. | ||
| When that does happen and you get arrested for the thing you did intentionally in order to guarantee that you get arrested, all you have to do is pretend that you're being arrested for a different reason. | ||
| Ignore the whole I lied about a teenager and got sued thing and just pretend that they arrested you because you're too effective and you're too peaceful of a civil rights leader for white people. | ||
| It's all a charade, and if you pay attention to what he's saying and what he's doing, it's pretty obvious that this is why he restated these slanderous claims in this documentary and why he aired the documentary at the rally. | ||
| Tommy's entire scam is about aggrievement, so he needs to always be the victim. | ||
| By repeating lies about a migrant teenager he was told not to repeat in a documentary that he intentionally screened at the rally, Tommy was guaranteeing that there would be a way that he could come out the other side looking like a victim, which guarantees that the donations will keep coming. | ||
| And the shitheads on the streets will continue terrorizing migrants. | ||
| Also, according to The Independent, nine people were arrested at the rally and there were a bunch of fights. | ||
| Two people were arrested, quote, on suspicion of grievous bodily harm, which was two Tommy fans assaulting a counter-protester. | ||
| Another person was arrested for assaulting a trans pride activist. | ||
| Someone was arrested for snapping someone's Palestinian flag and making racially abusive remarks. | ||
| Someone was arrested for assaulting an emergency worker. | ||
| And then later, four people were arrested for assaulting emergency workers outside of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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So, probably unsurprisingly, Tommy Robinson's a big fan of Elon Musk. | |
| God dang it. | ||
| Which I don't think anyone, that's not going to take anyone out of their heels or shoes or whatever the expression is. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Tommy was kicked off Twitter. | |
| Obviously, because of his behaviors. | ||
| Back in the day, he was kicked off. | ||
| Not like recently. | ||
| No, actually, recently he was let back on. | ||
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Let back on. | |
| Yeah, Elon Musk let him back on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So talk a little bit about how Elon Musk is the key to getting their message out and stuff. | ||
| Because, of course, of course. | ||
| The trust in the media is gone. | ||
| The monopoly and the power that they had to deceive the public about us has gone. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| Partly, thanks to Elon Musk. | ||
| Elon Musk has opened us back up. | ||
| Give a voice for reality, a voice for the truth. | ||
| Give us back a platform where people can share the outrageous decisions the police are making, share the horrific, terrible stories of what's happening in towns and cities across the country. | ||
| And in the last few months, I'd say you've seen the brewing of a mini-revolution in Great Britain. | ||
| Since Saturday, there's now been protests, unfortunately, not led by us. | ||
| They're like rudderless ships. | ||
| And there's been violence in many cities across the country. | ||
| Well, that's because there's been so many racially targeted attacks on white people, and the Prime Minister calls Brits protesting murder of three young girls by an illegal alien man a promise to keep the Muslim community safe. | ||
| I mean, the system's really asking for it. | ||
| Well, this has really lit people up. | ||
| See, that's interesting, because Tommy Robinson's answer isn't yes. | ||
| He goes on to another thought. | ||
| Alex just served up a meatball right over home plate. | ||
| And he didn't swing necessarily at it. | ||
| He took the conversation in his own direction, which is... | ||
| Very British of him. | ||
| Quite. | ||
| Quite British. | ||
| Also, I mean, they're just lying about this murder at the dance class. | ||
| What Tommy is essentially saying is that Elon Musk allows us to put a false version of our story out that is intensely profitable. | ||
| And we... | ||
| I really appreciate him letting us spread our shit on his site. | ||
| You know, I was... | ||
| This is the fun thing about time, right? | ||
| Because I was thinking about... | ||
| While he was saying all of that stuff, I was thinking about Marx. | ||
| And I was thinking like, you know... | ||
| TV is the opiate of the masses. | ||
| I was thinking about Calvin talking about Marx. | ||
| TV is the opiate of the masses. | ||
| I thought you were talking about Zeppo. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| And it is like, but maybe it's a good opiate. | ||
| Maybe we need to go back to when everybody was watching four channels, Carson was ruling the earth, and we're all just high all the time on TV that shuts off. | ||
| And when the TV shuts off, you went to bed. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Well, I do think we all miss that sign-off when TV stations would be like, we're done for the night. | ||
| Those are the days. | ||
| That was an interesting thing. | ||
| I think if you could find a way to make it a little bit more equitable and still have four channels. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Maybe we're on to something. | ||
| There is a difficulty, yeah. | ||
| It was a time where a very particular type of people held all the gatekeeping positions. | ||
| You know, when I stop and think about the number, it does seem small. | ||
| It does seem maybe too small for several hundred million people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you're talking about time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And Tommy Robinson is back on. | ||
| We're back in 2016, basically. | ||
| And I almost fainted at how much we're just basically back in time. | ||
| Let's talk about the rally with 100,000 people and you getting arrested. | ||
| The listeners are tuning in. | ||
| You type it in. | ||
| They said arrested on terrorism charges for peacefully speaking. | ||
| What happened there? | ||
| So I held the rally, 100,000 people. | ||
| We had music. | ||
| We had a celebration. | ||
| We had a beautiful day, an absolute beautiful day. | ||
| Do you know what? | ||
| It reinstalled it in the public. | ||
| Do you know, I went to Poland years ago and I attended a rally with 100,000 people. | ||
| Red flag. | ||
| And I felt jealous. | ||
| And the hairs on the back of my neck stood up. | ||
| And I said, look at the patriotism. | ||
| They know who they are. | ||
| It was for their 100-year anniversary of independence. | ||
| They know who they are. | ||
| We don't have that. | ||
| Tommy went to the same march where Stefan Molyneux went and decided, hey, I'm a white nationalist now. | ||
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I'm a white nationalist. | |
| I mean, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, you already knew that. | ||
| He didn't go in with the same sort of... | ||
| Pretend rationality that Molyneux did. | ||
| But they were at the same march and inspired their white identity. | ||
| Yeah, it should probably be more remarked upon that whenever the alt-right or the less conservative people are expressing wistfulness, it is towards Nazis being able to call themselves Nazis in public. | ||
| It is kind of strange how wistful they are towards that ability. | ||
| The hair on the back of their neck stands up when people don't speak freely. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's just us. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Oh, not good. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Not good at all. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| So Alex makes up a little bit of a fake version of this story also. | ||
| He says that Tommy was arrested as if the rally that he held was terrorism. | ||
| And that's not true. | ||
| He was trying to flee the country before his court date, so the police arrested him using counterterrorism authority that they had. | ||
| They didn't say that his rally was terrible. | ||
| That's a complete fraud that Alex is trying to project. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Hey, listen, pre-9-11, Tommy Robinson, you would have been able to get away. | ||
| Let's just face it. | ||
| You would have just been out of the border, no problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if you were, like, you know... | ||
| Anybody worth their salt, you would have swam off that island. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| There was back in the day. | ||
| You used to just walk out into the ocean, and if you made it, you made it. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| Rent a boat. | ||
| Don't go to the channel station. | ||
| But Tommy only gets one oar. | ||
| One! | ||
| So Tommy is in trouble because he got sued for lying about a child, which led to the child. | ||
| And his family seeing a bunch of harassment and all this shit. | ||
| So Tommy got sued about that, and the court said, can't make these claims anymore. | ||
| Literally, it shouldn't be that hard. | ||
| Tommy made a documentary about how he was right and how everyone's wrong, and then aired that, and then got in trouble when he tried to flee the country because he breached the terms of the lawsuit. | ||
| But Alex wants to relitigate everything and be like, hey, you know, you were maybe actually right about stuff. | ||
| Tries to run cover for Tommy. | ||
| One second. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I just realized something crazy. | ||
| He was arrested at the border for trying to flee the country and then was set bail? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, no, I think the authority on which they arrested him, they couldn't hold him. | ||
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Oh, okay, okay. | |
| After he posted bail. | ||
| So it wasn't like, but they let him post bail. | ||
| He's a flight risk. | ||
| Look, I don't pretend to understand the British. | ||
| Hey, it didn't strike me until that moment that maybe there was something else. | ||
| We have a suspicion that you're going to flee the country. | ||
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We let you go. | |
| You flee the country. | ||
| You were so good. | ||
| We had you on that one. | ||
| So yeah, here Alex tries to run a little cover for the initial lawsuit causing claims. | ||
| So at the demonstration three years ago, Alex, you remember, three, four years ago, I made a documentary and the judge prevented the public seeing the documentary. | ||
| So I wasn't allowed to play the film or I'd face two years in prison. | ||
| Well, when I had... | ||
| For those that don't know, the film was Muslims bragging about kidnapping and raping white girls. | ||
| Well, the film was about threats by one. | ||
| The film was about a totally deceived story. | ||
| It was a story about a Syrian refugee. | ||
| You were exposing the grooming gangs. | ||
| Yeah, in this city, this is the city where the grooming gangs went on, but the documentary was more about the media's manipulation and lies and how they covered up a story and then changed the narrative for the public. | ||
| Tommy is an interesting fellow because Alex is trying to be like... | ||
| Don't worry about why he was in trouble. | ||
| He was doing something good. | ||
| And Tommy has to be like, well, actually, that's not quite accurate. | ||
| The grooming gang's thing was another time that I caused a big public stir. | ||
| This is a different one. | ||
| This is about a Syrian kid that I talk shit about. | ||
| I like it whenever they have a sort of misplaced pride in what they do, where it's like, hey, listen, I'm not just going to let you slander what I did. | ||
| I have to be a little bit more. | ||
| I have to push back. | ||
| I'm not just going to allow you to say whatever. | ||
| That single was off a different album, my man. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Just let it go, Tommy. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Play along with this, Tommy. | ||
| Even people who watch the documentary are going to lie about it to other people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I watched a little bit of his documentary. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Well, is that a lie? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| It's all true. | ||
| I did watch a little bit of it. | ||
| I turned it off after half an hour. | ||
| And it is true that it is not good. | ||
| But Alex loves him. | ||
| Alex loves this guy. | ||
| I said, why do you expect me to give you my sources of information? | ||
| Because if you get into my phone... | ||
| You can see all the people. | ||
| It's my work phone. | ||
| I'm a journalist. | ||
| If you've took my phone, you've took my journal. | ||
| I'm going to shift gears out of that. | ||
| This is so important, the time we have with you. | ||
| You've got to come back for like two hours if you can soon. | ||
| I love you, brother. | ||
| One of my bucket lists is to meet you in person. | ||
| You're such a hero. | ||
| But you'll say you're not a hero. | ||
| You're driven. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'm the same way. | ||
| But explain to me. | ||
| How big this rally is and what they're going to do now because for people to think, oh, they just put labor around, that's because they voted out the conservatives because they were fake. | ||
| Everywhere people are voting folks out, the numbers show people are awake. | ||
| They've got to be in panic mode right now. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex's bucket list includes meeting Tommy Robinson in person, which is nuts because he hasn't yet then. | ||
| That's shocking. | ||
| I would have thought they would have met by now. | ||
| Well, is Tommy not allowed in the United States? | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| I think he's not allowed in other countries. | ||
| Alex is allowed in the UK. | ||
| Is Alex allowed in the UK? | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure he could go. | ||
| I mean, how about ideologically, though? | ||
| He went for Bilderberg that one time. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| That was before Tommy Robinson was a known quantity. | ||
| Or there was a queen back then. | ||
| Now that there's a king, maybe you can't go back. | ||
| Reminds you too much of King George. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So Alex loves him. | ||
| He's just such a cool guy. | ||
| Boy. | ||
| So much so that in the clip we listened to before, Alex was running cover. | ||
| For Tommy. | ||
| And just like, it's no big deal. | ||
| It's a fake story. | ||
| It's covering up grooming gangs and what have you. | ||
| All this isn't true. | ||
| What happened was that Tommy saw some videos circulating online of this teenager, Jamal Hijazi, being attacked on a schoolyard. | ||
| This kid threw him to the ground and then poured water on his face. | ||
| In a way that a lot of people had called waterboarding. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| It is, but it's also, I understand why that term is loaded, but whatever. | ||
| It was a pretty clear assault on a child that was being carried out by white youths. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So Tommy immediately began running defense for the attackers, claiming that Hijazi was, quote, not innocent, and he violently attacks young English girls in his school. | ||
| So Tommy had this instinctual reaction, and in response, Hijazi and his family were threatened and harassed to the point where they needed to move out of town for their safety. | ||
| Ajazi sued Tommy for this and many other defamatory claims that were made, and a judge ruled that Tommy failed to prove any of his claims and that, quote, the defendant's contribution to this media frenzy was a deliberate effort to portray the claimant as being far from an innocent victim, but in fact a violent aggressor. | ||
| Tommy was ordered to pay £100,000 and to cease from making these claims in the future. | ||
| Right now, there's an anti-immigrant fervor that's rising up, and Tommy knows damn well that he needs to strike when the iron's hot. | ||
| This game is really profitable for him, and his racist fans will keep supporting him as long as he continues to pretend to be a victim for them. | ||
| So here he is, intentionally doing something that will cause a legal response in order to profit from pretending it's all persecution against him because he's white. | ||
| And it's just, Alex, he knows what he's doing. | ||
| This game is very see-through. | ||
| Yeah, and they let him get away! | ||
| You know, you stay in jail, and you do the thing, and you're like, ah, I will fight and do the whole thing. | ||
| You know, you do the Mandela. | ||
| I know he's a monster, but you do the Mandela. | ||
| But I wonder if it's a situation where... | ||
| Mandela's not a monster. | ||
| I was talking about Tom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You couldn't keep him in prison because this is a civil thing. | ||
| You know, like, it is a lawsuit, and you breach the terms of that lawsuit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So maybe there is, like, a... | ||
| You know, we can't hold you longer than X amount of time if you post bail. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, at that point, though, it would be nice if the legal system would just be like, hey, listen, we're not equipped to deal with you. | ||
| I guess you're fine. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Or be like, we understand you in the context of who you are. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And granted, you're just violating the terms of a lawsuit that you lost. | ||
| But also, bigger picture, you're Tommy fucking Robinson. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We know what you're up to. | ||
| The law is the law. | ||
| So, Tommy is pretty aware that what's going on right now is going to turn into a wave of violence directed towards migrants. | ||
| And I think he's pretty excited for it. | ||
| Amazing historical time happening. | ||
| Repeat what you were saying during the break to me about the awakening that's happening, and let's start talking about your film and the clips we're going to play next segment. | ||
| Mate, I've said I've been doing this 15 years. | ||
| The public weren't ready. | ||
| They haven't been ready to listen. | ||
| They didn't want to listen. | ||
| They're ready now. | ||
| I'm telling you, they're ready. | ||
| They're ready from one end of Britain to the other. | ||
| I know right now, as we're talking, Alex, riots are kicking off in Sunderland. | ||
| There's 20 cities that demonstrations are coming out. | ||
| I know it's not. | ||
| I try and say to people, the anger from the British public is 100% justified. | ||
| The men in these hotels have raped, committed murder, jihad across the country. | ||
| The government are placing undocumented migrants they know nothing about into towns and cities. | ||
| Parents feel they've got no safety for their kids anymore. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| We feel lost as a nation. | ||
| So what we managed to do in two successful events with a lot of hard work was control and harness that anger. | ||
| What you're seeing now over the last three days and what you're going to see in the coming weeks is unharnessed, raw emotion and anger, frustration, resentment, all of it. | ||
| People are furious. | ||
| They're raging. | ||
| They're raging. | ||
| And the same thing is happening in Ireland. | ||
| Same thing in Ireland. | ||
| They've took away their safety. | ||
| They've took away the safety of your children. | ||
| And people now know that. | ||
| They've brought in people who are hostile and violent to our nation, who are never going to integrate or assimilate. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| It's not going to work. | ||
| You've mixed oil and water. | ||
| And they knew it. | ||
| They knew what they were doing when they were bringing them in. | ||
| So this was on Friday. | ||
| And on Sunday was when this group stormed a refugee hotel. | ||
| So it's pretty clear to see that this is what the wave Tommy is trying to ride. | ||
| He is encouraging of all this stuff and profits from it. | ||
| He incites it and then acts like he's the victim in the entire operation. | ||
| It's just disgusting. | ||
| Okay, so at the beginning, though, he's saying that he can direct the anger? | ||
| Like, couldn't they build barns or something? | ||
| Like, are the Amish just angry all the time? | ||
| Is that what's really going on? | ||
| You've talked yourself into this, but no. | ||
| He is saying that he can direct the anger in all this. | ||
| And he has. | ||
| He has. | ||
| Well, I mean, but he hasn't built a, maybe build a hotel right next to the hotel. | ||
| I thought you said Bill Barnes, like that's Barnes' brother. | ||
| No. | ||
| What? | ||
| William Barnes? | ||
| Did you just say, hey, Blinken? | ||
| No. | ||
| What there is here is a recognition on his part that they can direct this anger. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And they can foment this. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And he's... | ||
| Trying to pretend that rioting and an outbreak of violence directed towards migrants isn't what he is directing this violence towards. | ||
| He's trying to pretend that, like, oh, whatever happens, this is what you get. | ||
| This is not the result of my agitation, my fear-mongering, my bullshit. | ||
| Well... | ||
| He won. | ||
| He escaped. | ||
| He's in Cyprus. | ||
| He got away. | ||
| Like, that's some cops and robbers stuff right there. | ||
| It's very tough. | ||
| To accept as reality, because it is somebody who basically lit a fuse and then ran away. | ||
| And then ran away and got away with it and got money. | ||
| And crap funded off. | ||
| Yeah, and gets to live in a super nice resort. | ||
| Where have I heard of that before? | ||
| I do hope that there is some consequence that will befall this. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I hope that he loses all his money. | ||
| No, I understand religion now. | ||
| And I hope that he can't go back to the UK ever again. | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But this is just horrific. | ||
| And the consequences continue. | ||
| It ripples, and that's no good. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I get why people don't believe in God but really hope for a devil. | ||
| So there's one thing that could make things a lot worse in the circumstances. | ||
| I think if Elon Musk shares this film, it may save my life. | ||
| Because they're locking me up. | ||
| Now, locking me up is possible or probable death in the prison system. | ||
| Maybe that's what they want, yeah? | ||
| Maybe that's what they want. | ||
| And by the way, you tried to go to Canada. | ||
| They arrested you there. | ||
| I wish you would just come here. | ||
| You're a political refugee. | ||
| You're a political prisoner. | ||
| I would love to come to the United States for America, Alex. | ||
| But I'd wait till Trump wins, man. | ||
| And then I'd be desperate to. | ||
| I'd love to. | ||
| Yeah, we get it. | ||
| If Elon Musk just tweets this film out, he's just begging. | ||
| That must be... | ||
| I mean, he could probably live in Utah. | ||
| I think he's got it. | ||
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I think there's a number of places Tommy Robinson could hide out. | |
| Yeah, I think he'd be fine. | ||
| I think there's a Louisiana parish out there for him. | ||
| I think he's got it, yeah. | ||
| But I do understand what he's saying with the, I'm going to wait until Trump gets in. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would definitely. | ||
| Because then I'll be made a secretary of some sort. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it is like, hey, listen, I know I'm not from there, so I can't run for office or whatever it is, but I can be appointed to a lot of shit. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| What a mess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we have one last clip here, and I think it's Tommy pretty well describing the role that he plays in these things. | ||
| It's been a year since you've been on. | ||
| You've got to get on next week. | ||
| We'll do it again. | ||
| I would tell you, stay out of the UK for more than two weeks. | ||
| Take time with your family. | ||
| Please don't go right back. | ||
| Let this build, please. | ||
| I'm pretty sure what the judges said is that I have till October, and that's what the judges said. | ||
| But between now and October, I'm going to pour petrol on the fire Saturday. | ||
| I've got a lot of podcasts, a lot of interviews set up. | ||
| I've got Jordan Peterson Part 2. I've got some big ones lined up, Alex. | ||
| Yeah, he pours petrol onto the fire. | ||
| That's his role. | ||
| He is somebody who's stoking these flames. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| He knows what he does. | ||
| He knows his job. | ||
| He does his job. | ||
| I mean, I guess people want it. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I guess that's why people listen to him show up on shows. | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| I think that Tommy Robinson is somebody whose act is very thin, very see-through, very obvious, to the extent that if you're somebody who is a part of the right-wing ecosystem and the media sphere, You should know better than to have him on. | ||
| I think that you know that what you're doing is helping him throw fuel onto the fire. | ||
| You know you're doing that. | ||
| Because his game is very obvious. | ||
| Well, I mean, he said it. | ||
| And it has been since he was a fucking guy on the street fighting a soccer hooligan type shit. | ||
| He has been his whole life. | ||
| There was a time... | ||
| When maybe there's a plausible deniability. | ||
| Who's this interesting British fellow who's coming over here saying right-wing talking points? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Boy, he has a nice haircut. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that there was a point, and maybe that was 2016, I don't know, there was a point when you could accept the idea, oh, maybe he's gonna go on Dave Rubin's show. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| The fact that he is now on Alex's show in 2024, and he's saying he's gonna be on Jordan Peterson's show. | ||
| Is a damning indictment of both Alex and Jordan Peterson. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| It'd be nice if they just took responsibility for themselves. | ||
| Like, hey, Tommy, we want people to get hurt by you and your friends. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We want to help you throw fuel on the fire that is directing this hostility and anger towards these marginalized communities as an excuse. | ||
| For why your life isn't as good as it could be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| While at the same time acting like they still have plausible deniability. | ||
| But I guess everybody's treating them like they still have plausible deniability, so I guess they do. | ||
| But I don't think you're gonna see Tommy show up on as many shows as he might have in 2015, 2016. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think a lot of people recognize him as a toxic commodity that they don't want to be associated with. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, but that's what concerns me about him running away to Cyprus, is because that's a cool thing to do. | ||
| I think that might have just been a vacation. | ||
| Already planned? | ||
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Motherfucker. | |
| No, I would imagine not, but I don't think he's staying there. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's expensive. | ||
| Well, that's fair. | ||
| You can only crowdfund that so much. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| But I mean, come on. | ||
| Why go back? | ||
| Be free. | ||
| Once you get outed as being at a luxury resort, There is that. | ||
| It kind of hurts your ability to be like, I'm a man of the people! | ||
| It kind of hurts your ability to rabble, rouse, and throw gas on the fire. | ||
| Eventually, people will start to come around and realize, oh, we're being used. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you would hope. | ||
| Fuck you, Tommy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be a lot harder to set a hotel on fire if a guy who owned a bunch of hotels was like, hey, you guys should take down that hotel. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I don't own that hotel. | ||
| You might start to understand that either you profit off the competitors' hotels being burned down, or you have insurance on that hotel. | ||
| There is that. | ||
| Whatever it is, you have a vested interest in my anger being directed in a certain way. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And maybe I shouldn't... | ||
| Do that. | ||
| Listen, you were so mad you built a barn, but now I can't be. | ||
| You didn't pay me for it, so now you're so mad you're going to pay me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I hate Tommy Robinson. | ||
| I think he sucks. | ||
| I think it's sad that Alex has no standards. | ||
| I honestly think that if I worked at Infowars, and let's say I just have conservative beliefs, like maybe I want to audit the Fed. | ||
| Maybe I believe in states' rights. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You know, I have these conservative beliefs. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think I would quit if he had Tommy on in 2024. | ||
| I think I would be like, fuck you. | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
| This is beyond whatever you're pretending to be. | ||
| That's a really good question. | ||
| You can't have Tommy on and pretend that what you're doing is not trying to incite violence against people. | ||
| No, that's such a great question because it's like, would 2024 Tommy Robinson go on a show in 2016 and everybody goes, we're done. | ||
| But now that it's 2024, are people going to... | ||
| Be more likely to be like, I'm sick of your shit, or are they more like, I'm pot committed, you know? | ||
| I've already gone this far. | ||
| I think 2024, Tommy Robinson is a little more explicit than he was in 2016. | ||
| That's what I'm saying, yeah. | ||
| He was more guarded back then because there was the potential of becoming... | ||
| Like, he worked at Rebel Media, and he was like... | ||
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Sure. | |
| There was, like, the idea that maybe he could become a right-wing star, but he's too far. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's too far for anybody who wants to... | ||
| I'd be associated with. | ||
| He is too much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So I think that 2024, Tommy, coming to a lot of these other places, I think it wouldn't have flown as well because he's gotten a bit more explicit. | |
| Right. | ||
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But then... | |
| You know, it's almost scary to think about because... | ||
| The scary answer is, what if 2024 Tommy Robinson goes back to 2016 and jumpstarts everything and everybody goes, finally, he's saying it openly. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It took us... | ||
| Are you suggesting a time loop? | ||
| I mean, maybe people really wanted 2024 back in 2016, and that's why things have just kept getting more and more... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I will say that I think... | ||
| Explicit is what I'm trying to say, yeah. | ||
| I do think that 2024, Tommy, would have been fine on 2016 Infowars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| If I were this person, this hypothetical non-existent Infowars employee... | ||
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Sure. | |
| Just has conservative values. | ||
| Just conservative values. | ||
| I don't think I would be morally required to quit in 2016 with Tommy Robinson coming on. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think in 2024 you are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because otherwise, you know what you're doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is eight years later. | ||
| He knows what he's doing. | ||
| You know who this guy is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You've seen what he's done. | ||
| You can't defend this shit. | ||
| You know exactly what he's about. | ||
| And having him on is only in service of trying to sanitize and justify his career. | ||
| Amplify the damage that he does. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You are invested in participating in the damage that he does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that you're morally required to not be involved in that. | ||
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Right. | |
| So anyone who works at Infowars is now as bad as Tommy Robinson. | ||
| Has to take responsibility for what they desire. | ||
| You can't be both, yeah. | ||
| I do think there's something to that. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Oh, well. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| Well, we'll win. | ||
| We'll see where Alex is at. | ||
| I guess he's still the ghost of the machine. | ||
| Oh, I forgot he was the ghost of the machine. | ||
| That was a whale. | ||
| I told you, this is all fucking stupid. | ||
| That was forever ago. | ||
| That was yesterday on this episode. | ||
| Yeah, that was an infinite time period. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| Until then, we have a website. | ||
| Do we do it? | ||
| It's launchfight.com. | ||
| Yep, I'm debatably Neo. | ||
| I might be Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the mysterious professor. | ||
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! | |
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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