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July 29, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#949: July 26, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan discuss a very dumb episode of Alex's show where Alex misreports on Netanyahu's address to Congress, sings the praises of Southern cooking, and misreports a story about George H.W. Bush from 1993.

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alex jones
22:09
d
dan friesen
29:22
j
jordan holmes
19:37
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larry klayman
00:02
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mike adams
00:01
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steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:03
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
unidentified
I love your world.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
dan friesen
Dan.
unidentified
Jordan.
dan friesen
Dan.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is over the course of this podcast, I think there has been a robust debate over who will win out, who will end up influencing the other.
Will it be me and my sort of stoic, I love you.
Let's think about things.
Will that win over you, or will your emotional react in the moment end up winning over me?
Who will be drawn to whose side?
And I'm here to announce that I think that you have won.
Not because I'm emotionally reacting, but because I bought headbands.
I've become part of the headband nation.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
Team headband?
jordan holmes
They just make sense.
dan friesen
I only wear them when I'm exercising, though, because of keeping sweat out of my face.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
But it is effective for that.
And I feel silly, and I apologize for mocking you privately and publicly.
jordan holmes
I understand.
I get it.
We all have to grow and change in our own way.
It makes sense.
dan friesen
You know, you stood strong by your headband passion, and I think I took some...
Took some inspiration from that that allowed me to put on the headband.
jordan holmes
I think for as much as people want to describe perhaps that as our dynamic, I think one thing that is left out is occasionally my stubbornness is simply unmovable.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is one of those cases and then I've adopted it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is the Olympics.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
They're fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're going great.
dan friesen
Opening ceremony was on Friday.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
I liked that.
The guy parkoured.
That was great.
Parkoured across the rooftops, Paris.
dan friesen
I heard a little bit about this.
My friend Angela Lampsbury was texting me about there being minions.
jordan holmes
There were minions.
I did not know that.
dan friesen
I saw a screenshot of some minions.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
All right.
dan friesen
And the Assassin's Creed person is how it was described to me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very Assassin's Creed, yeah.
I love it because my wife has a weird relationship with sports.
Not interested.
Olympics?
Massively interested.
Doesn't matter what sport.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that the brand is strong.
jordan holmes
There's something about it.
We're watching handball, and instantly, that's another great part of the Olympics.
In about two plays, she's like, That's not how you call that, ref!
And you're like, yeah, I totally get it.
dan friesen
I'm a fucking handball fan from way back.
jordan holmes
100% expert.
dan friesen
I know all the details.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
That's a foul.
You stepped over the line.
dan friesen
This is going to be an international scandal.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
The handball scandal of 2024.
jordan holmes
And then this year's fantastic because there's Olympic tennis.
It's in Paris.
Guess what that means?
Roland Garros.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Court Philippe Chartrier.
dan friesen
Rafa.
jordan holmes
Rafa.
And he just won his match.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
That was great.
But he and Carlos Alcaraz, two Spanish players, one the greatest that ever played, and then the second one about to be the greatest that ever played.
dan friesen
Young up-and-comer.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Them playing doubles hits you in the daddy issues so hard.
You can feel Rafa being so proud and him being nervous because this is a legend.
Seriously, it is cute as shit.
And there was one moment where they hit a great point and then in unison, simultaneously, they both did the same arm pump celebration.
They get down on one knee and they...
It was fucking crazy.
dan friesen
That's sweet.
jordan holmes
It was crazy.
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was a really brief window where I heard the Olympics were coming up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I told myself, all right, I'm going to become an Olympics guy.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
I kind of told myself, like, all right, I mean, there's streaming.
jordan holmes
Totally.
You can find it anywhere.
dan friesen
I'm going to watch everything.
jordan holmes
You can watch a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't watch everything physically, I don't think.
But also, I don't know.
The idea of doing that sounded fun, and then I watched a little bit of some swimming, and I'm like, eh, I'm not going to sit here and watch this all day, but that's nice.
I'm glad for these people.
jordan holmes
I find it so weird that there are so many sports that they'll like...
Cut to in, like, small screen.
Like, we're waiting around for a 45-second swimming race where it's like, I understand they're going to swim from one side to the other.
And then they'll suddenly show, like, oh, here's archery, judo, nonstop action.
This one's a skateboarding thing.
And you're like, show me that stuff!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I did notice when I was watching, this is my only observation about the Olympics.
They were swimming.
And told you how fast they were swimming.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
Behind them.
jordan holmes
That's cool.
dan friesen
I remember when I was a kid, there was a huge deal that they innovated on television how to highlight the puck in hockey.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
To keep track of where it was going.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we didn't have high definition.
We just had blurry...
dan friesen
And this is how that felt.
I turned it on and I'm like, oh, that person's going 26.4 meters per second.
That's pretty fast.
jordan holmes
That's pretty fucking fast.
dan friesen
Unnecessary information, but thank you.
jordan holmes
It reminds me of the new thing in baseball.
They'll show you how hard the ball was hit.
And it's like, oh, that was 118 miles an hour.
I understand it's cool to know the exact number, but you have essentially told me, and I think you need to understand this, he really hit the shit out of that ball?
I did not need your assistance.
I heard it.
dan friesen
If you could give me some kind of other context for it, like this is a textbook dropping on the ground.
That's how hard he hit it.
jordan holmes
Totally, yeah.
dan friesen
Yes, that makes sense!
jordan holmes
It feels like 120 outside.
Thank you.
I don't care that it's 95. It's worse than that.
dan friesen
Your job is to paint a word picture.
So, today we're going to paint a word picture about Alex Jones' dumbass.
jordan holmes
Great transition.
dan friesen
Thanks.
This episode's stupid.
It sucks.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I just kept thinking this is stupid while I was listening to it.
In a couple of interesting ways.
And then the last clip that we have today.
I'm not going to...
I don't want to oversell this.
I don't want to tease this.
It's not the best thing I've ever heard.
But it is definitely something I have never heard Alex say on his show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright.
unidentified
I'm interested.
dan friesen
For better or worse...
There's at least something very new.
jordan holmes
All these years, and you can still surprise us.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, ooh, I policy wonk you did there.
Anyway, catch me and Norm Pattis' penis doing a show in Intercourse, Pennsylvania.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, happy birthday, Scruffy Corgi from Chunky Chipmunk.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, actual twins, Kyle and Kelsey.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Barbara on the Big Island of Hawaii.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
The Big Island of Hawaii may factor into one of the stupid clips on today's show.
jordan holmes
Interesting, but not...
The most populous island of Hawaii.
dan friesen
Well, Alex might have met with the chief, and he talks a little bit more about that.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Fun.
Great.
Anyway, we have a couple of technocrats in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Alex.
Stop acting like a bitch already.
Be a visionary, or you can see your name in the column of obituaries.
jordan holmes
It's like one, two, three.
All right.
dan friesen
Most definitely, Alex.
Joe.
jordan holmes
That doesn't rhyme.
dan friesen
Nope.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
unidentified
And team Terry, let's go!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And by special request, here is the Raptor Princess Sour Drop.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
I'll barbecue your ass.
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
alex jones
You're a beautiful soul.
They're coming for your balls.
Well, I piss all over your gut.
Very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies.
I piss all over the state.
larry klayman
You make it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage?
unidentified
When they are.
Comment!
As you see fit.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So we start off here where I think I might not have said what the episode is.
I just said it's stupid.
jordan holmes
It is stupid.
dan friesen
It's Friday, July 26th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Is what we're going to go over.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And this is after Benjamin Netanyahu has come and addressed Congress.
jordan holmes
Right!
A thing that, sure, a massive thing that's going on that was like a 10th build on the insane news cycle that we're on right now?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That happened, and Alex, I was curious about what his take on this was, and it turns out, I don't know if you remember, 900 episodes ago on our first episode.
jordan holmes
He's the canary in the coal mine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Once the deep state took out Netanyahu, it was time to pray.
jordan holmes
Man, it's time to pray now.
dan friesen
Now it turns out Netanyahu is deep state as hell.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
The global shooting, everything they can to suppress the truth.
And I'm talking about...
Netanyahu's comment to Congress about assassinating Trump and how Iran wants to assassinate Trump, and his full statement is extremely chilling.
And it's not like I'm saying this is chilling now.
I said this in the days after Trump was shot, on the Saturday, the Sunday, the Monday, the Tuesday, the Wednesday.
I said, they're going to try to frame Iran, and when they try to kill Trump again, they're going to say it was Iran with a truck bomb.
Or a hijacked plane.
Or a machine gun attack.
dan friesen
Or a poison.
alex jones
A suicide bomber attack.
dan friesen
Or a nuke.
alex jones
And I've said it probably about 50 times.
And then they came out on Tuesday, three days after the attack, and said, oh, we think Iran might be involved, but nobody bought it, so they pulled it back.
That was the Pentagon and the State Department.
And so...
Now Netanyahu gets up there and says it.
And you don't get any more deep state than Netanyahu.
dan friesen
No more deep state than Netanyahu, apparently now.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
All right.
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't know what we're doing.
dan friesen
I feel like this is a direct 180 from where we started.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, so many years ago.
But who cares?
It doesn't matter.
All this is in Alex's head.
But apparently, in Pennsylvania, at that rally, there was an attempted assassination on Trump.
And a little bit after that...
There were some headlines about how Iran had made a plan to assassinate Trump.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
And we had talked about how everybody had a plan.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And largely, a lot of that had to do with the killing of Soleimani and shit like that.
jordan holmes
No, it makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so Alex has decided that the discussion of the Iranian plan was them trying to blame Iran for the shooting at the Pennsylvania rally.
Or, in theory, to set them up to blame for the next time they try to kill Trump.
And now Netanyahu came to Congress and he referenced that Iran had plans to try to kill Trump.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so, holy shit.
jordan holmes
I mean, okay.
I feel like we need to get across this hump as a people of, like, if you kill a guy, it makes total sense for them to be like, well, we're going to get you back.
Right?
I'm not saying they're going to do it, but America...
dan friesen
Not saying you should.
jordan holmes
Or they should, but you're going to have a thing, you know?
And America killed plenty of guys everywhere.
I am shocked that more people aren't, like, constantly trying to assassinate everybody.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Sure.
You would expect that if you took out a leader of another government that they would want to...
jordan holmes
They got a plan, at least.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
You earned it.
dan friesen
It's not the most shocking thing in the world.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But also, obviously, Netanyahu is trying to make his enemies America's enemies.
And so bonding over this shared distrust or whatever towards Iran is in his best interest.
So he makes passing reference to that plan, not in context of the Pennsylvania attack or anything like that.
But he made that contact in the speech, and so Alex has decided this is deep state messaging.
And there's going to be quite a false flag that ends up happening soon.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Netanyahu gets up in front of Congress yesterday, and he says, quote, if they do assassinate President Trump, meaning Iran, which is always a possibility, I hope that America obliterates Iran, wipes off the face of the earth, If that does not happen, American leaders will be considered gutless cowards.
Now, that's called pre-programming right there.
He's been saying for 21 years that Iran is two weeks away from a nuke.
He said it again last week.
And so did Blinken, the Secretary of State.
So, Netanyahu is a top globalist operative.
And when they stole the election from Trump three and a half, four years ago, Trump begged him for support and he wouldn't even return his phone calls.
unidentified
Oh, what a good buddy BB is.
alex jones
So, whether Israel's going to use its considerable intelligence network in the U.S. under his control to kill Trump and blame Iran, or whether he knows that there are plots to kill Trump and blame Iran, which there are, I first exposed it, Because I know the enemy of mine.
It's all I do.
Whether Israel's going to do it or whether he knows the deep state's about to do it, I said it last week.
They can say Iran hijacks a passenger plane or private plane with explosives on it, either or, flies into Mar-a-Lago or into a Trump event, or they roll a truck bomb in and say Iran did it, or they send in a group of, quote, commandos or something.
It's all on the table.
And then...
Trump's dead, and oh my God, Kamala Harris is on TV saying, we're now going to strike Iran, and you hear that nukes have gone off in Tehran, and then the average American, they think, will say, well, we better get behind this, because America's at war.
And then you've got the hundreds of thousands of Hezbollah and Hamas fighters that Iran actually brought in, that the globalists actually let in, who will then, when Iran is hit, they will then attack targets all over the United States, hundreds of them, if not thousands of them, There'll be hundreds of attacks.
And we are into total martial law.
Internet kill switch is put in.
You only get government messages.
And the ensuing fog of war, the entire Trump resistance leadership is taken out.
dan friesen
So this is what we have to look forward to in the near future.
They'll kill Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Whether it be by Israeli intelligence.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then they'll set up Iran, or maybe they'll just let Iran do it because they want to do it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So then they'll kill Trump.
Kamala Harris will come on TV, blame Iran.
jordan holmes
Iran.
dan friesen
Nuke Tehran.
jordan holmes
Nuke Tehran.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then in response, the Iranian sleeper cells, the Hezbollah folks in America, will attack everybody.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I see.
Okay, here's the thing about assassinations, I feel like.
If you're an assassinating kind of cat, you can't bomb people.
Know what I'm saying?
If it's a one-to-one thing, then you can't kill a bunch of people.
So I'm going to throw this out there.
I think if you nuke Tehran, you're going to wind up killing a lot of people who had no idea that there was an assassination.
Plot at all.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
I think that's probably a bad idea.
If you want to assassinate, that's fine.
But you gotta go one for one.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I think this is an interesting story that Alex is laying out, but it's mostly just kind of in his head.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, very importantly, he said that he was quoting Netanyahu there at the beginning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You heard him say quote.
jordan holmes
He did say quote.
dan friesen
But that shit does not appear in the transcript of Netanyahu's speech before Congress.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem surprising.
dan friesen
Alex is actually reading a post Trump made on Truth Social, where he said that if Iran assassinates him, he hopes that America, they quote, wipe off the face of the earth, they wipe Iran off the face of the earth, and if that does not happen, American leaders will be considered gutless cowards.
This is Trump.
unidentified
Hold on.
dan friesen
Alex is saying that Netanyahu said that in Congress.
unidentified
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
The former president was like, hey, if Iran kills me, I hope you blow up the whole fucking country.
dan friesen
That was what Trump said, not Netanyahu.
jordan holmes
Oh man, we gotta do a lot of stuff.
We gotta do a lot of stuff, but wherever we are now, it's just gotta go back.
dan friesen
I said this episode's really stupid, and part of the reason is because Alex is complaining about Netanyahu saying these words, because they're essentially like saber-rattling and trying to pre-program for a war with Iran, but in the real world, Trump said them.
So shouldn't the same criticism that's being applied to Netanyahu...
jordan holmes
He only said them because Netanyahu told him to say them.
dan friesen
But he's a bad friend.
Netanyahu didn't call him during the tough times.
jordan holmes
Netanyahu's a bad friend, but, you know, you still gotta listen to politics sometimes.
dan friesen
I just find that...
I was listening to this, and I'm like, you're reading a Trump post and claiming that it is a top globalist who is saying this in order to precipitate the assassination of Trump, which would lead to nuclear war with Iran and sleeper cells blowing up America from within.
It's just like, this is stupid.
This is stupid shit.
You're basing this on an entirely false premise, and everything that grows out of it is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for the longest time, I was super annoyed whenever people referenced 1984 to describe our current dystopia.
That is nailing it.
1984 is exactly what you should be using to describe that.
dan friesen
So it just goes on.
Alex is pretending that this true social post is actually from Netanyahu's speech.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
Now, I said that like a parrot.
There's an emergency beacon.
Probably, let's not exaggerate, 50 times.
In the days before they came out, the State Department, oh, and the Pentagon, yeah, we think Iran might be involved, or they've got a plot.
This is so transparent.
Well, then Yetanyahu gets up and says in front of Congress that If Trump gets killed, it's probably Iran.
And that we've got to immediately blow up Iran.
And you're not a good patriotic American if you don't support that.
This is just insane.
Insanely obvious.
dan friesen
So it's insanely obvious when you ascribe these words to Netanyahu and sort of Congress, but is it insanely obvious if you think of them as something that Trump said on Truth Social?
Because when does it become obvious, though?
What is it?
jordan holmes
I think that this is obviously insane.
I don't know about the rest of all these words, but whatever's going on right now, that's fucking crazy.
dan friesen
It is.
Because it's just like, I don't know, it's like a snowball that started going down the wrong hill.
And, you know, it's just building up as it goes down the wrong hill.
Just ignore it, I guess.
jordan holmes
Well, I guess that's happening.
dan friesen
You're not going to get a snowman out of this.
jordan holmes
I do sometimes feel like the real world as it stands is everybody is kind of stuck in a molasses container, right?
But everybody else is just a cat knocking cookie jars off the counter onto the floor.
We're all just sitting there going like, don't!
You can avoid it!
Walk around!
God damn it!
And that's it.
That's our lives.
dan friesen
I think the fundamental issue is that the globalists, they're evil and they're powerful, but they're dumb.
jordan holmes
That is an issue.
dan friesen
And they're incompetent, much like cats knocking stuff off the camera.
Alex talks about that a little bit.
alex jones
So this is dangerous for everybody.
And if Israel thinks it can survive a nuclear war, or if the globalists think they can, they're foolish.
And you see how much of what the new order tries to carry out, they mess up and screw up.
So they've got the power, but they're incompetent.
I mean, Chuckie Schumer doesn't know how to cook a hamburger.
These people are not builders.
All these different globalists.
Obama and the Bushes.
Remember George Bush when he was...
President went into a grocery store checkout, 20 years after they had scanners, and said, what is that?
He hadn't been in a grocery store in decades, didn't know what a scanner was.
And they're dangerous, and they'll get us all killed.
dan friesen
So in 1993, George H.W. Bush was given a tour of the National Grocers Convention, which was covered by one pool reporter named Greg McDonald.
He wrote a two-paragraph blurb about Bush's response to being shown new technologies in the grocery field, which was then editorialized on by all these other news outlets that weren't actually there.
Bush was being shown these new innovations, like a scanner that also had a scale built into it and one that could read even broken barcodes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he expressed some amount of being impressed, which makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was at a grocer's convention.
It would be fucking rude to not be interested in what you're seeing.
jordan holmes
In the mid-90s.
dan friesen
At the time, the economy was in a bad place, so the media was very quick to tell stories that painted the president as out of touch with the concerns of everyday Americans, and the image of him never having been to a grocery store was almost too perfect for that.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So that was the narrative that a lot of people ran with, despite it having no connection to what actually happened, and this is the story that Alex repeats.
Sure.
Alex pretends to be above the whole media spin ecosystem, but he's actually kind of below it.
You know?
He's not looking down with some sort of enlightened air.
jordan holmes
I wish I was as good at it as they are.
dan friesen
He just picks and chooses whatever he wants that matches up with whatever lore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's always so weird whenever it's that type of thing where it's like...
You don't need to make up grocery store shit.
It's George H.W. fucking Bush.
He was the CIA director and a billionaire.
He doesn't know what a grocery store looks like, but you don't need to make it up.
dan friesen
This is something that is a touchstone of history.
People remember this as a media thing that happened.
Part of the reason is because of it being Sure.
Sure.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That they want it to be told.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And the fact that Alex doesn't reckon with that, he doesn't wrestle with the fact that, like, oh, you're just repeating misinformation from 1993.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Is kind of silly.
He should be way above that.
jordan holmes
It is pretty silly.
But then again, George W. Bush did, H.W. did throw up in the Japanese Prime Minister's lap.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
That's pretty great.
dan friesen
That happened at the other National Grocers Convention the next year.
So Alex, instead of sticking around in misinformation from the 90s, he continues with his own particular brand from the present.
jordan holmes
That's nice of him.
alex jones
They already got us in war with Russia.
They're moving missiles up to the border, hypersonic missiles, nukes on them, up to the Russian border.
This is madness, people.
And then there is Netanyahu looking like the cat that ate the canary.
Totally enraptured in his chutzpah.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
His bravada, his hubris, his arrogance, saying, Boy, they killed Trump!
Woo, I sure hope you guys all blow our red off the map!
unidentified
That is a big, big, big, big, big, big red flag.
alex jones
And it sends chills up my spine.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's a true social post.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
He spends a lot of time on this, and there's really nothing to say other than, like, you're just reporting something wrong.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
So one of the things that Alex seems really upset about as it relates to Netanyahu, I would say probably more than the, you know, killing civilians in Gaza.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Certainly.
A much bigger issue for Alex is that he's a bad friend to Trump.
He's just not cool.
He didn't reach out.
jordan holmes
It is always fun whenever global relations are actually determined by catty idiots.
dan friesen
Look, man, Trump needed a bro.
alex jones
And I told you over and over and over again that they were going to blame Iran.
When they killed Trump, hell, I've been saying it for months.
And I said they would blow Iran off the map within a day of Trump being killed.
And then they come out and say, oh yeah, we think it's Iran.
Oh yeah, we think they're going to do it again.
Come on, people!
And then Netanyahu gets up in our Congress in a joint session.
And says, when they kill Trump, we're going to blow Iran up.
This is the guy that stabbed Trump in the back.
And there's Elon Musk right there in the audience.
Hey, Elon, you're smart.
unidentified
Easy.
alex jones
How would you feel if Netanyahu said, and if they kill Elon Musk, we blow up Iran?
What would you think if you heard that, Elon?
Your best buddy, Netanyahu.
Your bestest pal, after Trump rolled out the red carpet to Netanyahu, wouldn't even return his call.
Look it up.
Netanyahu refused to support Trump during the election fight, during the challenged election, and refused to return his phone call.
Because Netanyahu bets on the power.
He bets on the establishment.
He bets on the system.
Like all these other scumbag politicians.
He's not a friend when you're down.
unidentified
And that's what you want in a world leader.
alex jones
And everybody should think about that.
And think about the leader of Israel and what he did.
Because this crossed the line with me.
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
alex jones
Fucking fuck you!
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
unidentified
Yeah, it's a little...
jordan holmes
Fucking fuck that fucking fucking shit.
dan friesen
It's a little stupid.
It's a little dumb.
jordan holmes
Fucking hell.
dan friesen
A little stupid.
jordan holmes
I don't even know other words right now.
I just know fuck.
dan friesen
Hey, man.
You know, like, when you're down...
That's when you need someone to come.
jordan holmes
I mean, sure.
dan friesen
And that's why I'm going to call Steve Pachenik right now and check in and make sure he's okay.
That's why I'm gonna...
jordan holmes
Oh, you got my hopes up so hard.
dan friesen
No.
I'm just saying that Alex Manny isn't a great friend either.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Probably not a great friend.
dan friesen
Didn't even make a note of when Larry Nichols died.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Didn't say a word.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Didn't say a word.
dan friesen
So I just...
I find it...
Troubling, the way that Alex is taking this so seriously.
First of all, the not calling Trump back.
And then, secondly, the truth social post that Trump made that Alex is ascribing to Netanyahu.
I do think that that's way less important than other things that are happening in the world.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is treating this as the severest affront as opposed to, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you know, Trump got blanked, which I think we all know is a devastating social punishment, sure.
You know, but genocide, bummer.
dan friesen
Biden left him on, or Netanyahu left him on red.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So Alex starts talking about this meme that got put out by the group apparently called the Dali Meme Team.
A bunch of Trump fans.
Okay.
So yeah, he found this meme and he really liked it.
And he wants to play it, but it's full of obscenity.
And so he's going to get a cleaned up version of it to play.
But then someone just plays it.
alex jones
I saw a piece put out called We Built This Country this morning.
That's three minutes long and I meant to post it on X. Guys, go have Rob do post this on X. And the fellow at the Dilley meme team did a great job with what he said.
And I understand he was trying to be populist, so every fifth word is a cuss word.
dan friesen
Populist?
alex jones
And I get mad sometimes in cuss, too, so I'm not judging the person.
It's just that it was very thought-provoking, and it's been said by Rush Limbaugh and myself and Alexander de Tocqueville 200-plus years ago and George Washington 200-plus years ago and Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson.
Abraham Lincoln and pretty much everybody else.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
Paul Harvey.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
alex jones
But he did a good job in three minutes.
Put it together.
I had sent it to the crew to have it bleeped, but I guess that didn't happen.
I get it.
They're busy.
Too much.
I sent them too many clips.
Probably sent them 50 clips today.
But when we do get a bleeped version, I'm going to play it because we're on radio stations.
We have to have that.
Plus, a lot of homeschoolers, people listen to the show, so we try to be as family as possible.
We apologize when we're not.
Because we're teleprompter free.
And I just sometimes sound like it is a little too much.
But it just really made me think about the truth of it.
unidentified
Most of these fucking losers in the media and politics have never built shit.
I'm talking to all you men and women out there.
You built the company.
You've done more than most of your politicians.
Pretty much all of your politicians that you're in your local district.
You've done more than anybody in the media.
You control the real, the physical.
They control the non-physical, the bullshit.
The narrative, the narrative, the fucking narrative.
Can you drive a narrative?
Can you eat a narrative?
Can a narrative fucking take your head off from 700 yards away?
They control something that's invisible and doesn't exist like most of their fucking world.
You control all of the tangible shit.
You fix their cars.
You build their roads.
You erect their skyscrapers.
dan friesen
I was kind of shocked that this just started playing, because I seemed to be in the middle of a thought when it started playing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was weird.
dan friesen
And it was the Unbleeped version.
jordan holmes
Fucking hell!
dan friesen
Ew, fuckity fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this was like a three-minute rant that someone posted last September.
jordan holmes
I thought it was a meme.
dan friesen
I mean, it's three minutes.
You could say everything's a meme now.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
It was put out by a meme team.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
That's fair enough.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's a three-minute video of someone ranting while they put pictures of politicians over it and stuff.
jordan holmes
With the arms of the angels or whatever music, yep.
dan friesen
But yeah, it's from September, so it's been out for a little while.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I guess Alex saw it this morning and decided...
You're going to fucking cover this fucking thing.
jordan holmes
Do you mean September of next year?
dan friesen
Last year.
jordan holmes
Last year.
So it's been around for quite some time.
dan friesen
Not from the future.
jordan holmes
Not from the future.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So this was put together by a group called the Dilly Meme Team, which I guess is run by a guy named Brendan Dilly, who appears to be a right-wing dipshit, who posts stuff from like Andrew Tate, Cat Turd, and various other Trump sycophant Twitter accounts.
Great guy.
I don't give a shit.
But also, it's interesting that Alex seems to think that swearing is populist.
That was the thing that I most took away from that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, in a certain way, I kind of get more like, he is making the point that swearing is something of the common man's language, you know?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like, if you were going to separate the media from everybody, it's a great way of just being like, in their world, you can't swear.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
But I don't know if I equate that to populism.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, obviously not.
dan friesen
It's superficial.
jordan holmes
It is incredibly superficial.
dan friesen
So, Alex remembers that he was talking about George Bush being surprised by Scanners.
And so he decides...
jordan holmes
Oh, not the movie Scanners.
dan friesen
Well, I'm sure he was surprised by that, too.
jordan holmes
That guy's head exploded.
dan friesen
Grocery stores.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so he's like, I'm going to play that clip because I've mentioned it.
And then he accidentally plays a clip of someone explaining the misinformation.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
alex jones
Let's go ahead and roll the clip of George Herbert Walker Bush.
Decades after grocery store scanner is coming out, not knowing what it is, again, he's not been to a grocery store in decades because he's an elitist.
He doesn't do things like that.
unidentified
Remember that famous campaign stop where Bush Sr. was discovering, if you will, the wonders of the supermarket scanner?
You had never seen one before.
alex jones
And I know that's a short clip.
I saw you guys B-rolling a longer one in better quality.
Can we pull that up, please?
Because I saw you previewing a nicer, longer clip.
I'd like to see that one, please.
unidentified
He marveled at new technology that could read a shredded barcode.
The New York Times said he didn't know how an ordinary checkout counter worked.
The story stuck because it fed in with what was being argued by his opponents, both on the phone...
jordan holmes
I wonder why they didn't play this clip, Alex!
unidentified
...that Bush had lost touch with the American people.
alex jones
Look at the spin in that video.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I get why this was just supposed to be B-roll.
jordan holmes
All right, 1984.
There we go.
Now we're there.
You can use that reference accurately.
dan friesen
This guy's a fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
What an asshole.
dan friesen
So, Alex wants to take calls on this episode.
And I would say that he has a pretty heady and ambitious topic that he wants to cover.
alex jones
So we're going to give the toll-free number out to talk about all these big issues and more and where this is going as a society and a civilization.
By the very nature of this entertainment-laden, drugged-up population, not just here but around the world now, we have to be honest and say the industrial world has a lot of conveniences and a lot of neat things about it.
But in general, it destroys anything it touches.
And we have to ask, can civilization even be saved?
Can society be turned around?
Well, we have to.
Or our children have no future.
But isn't that why the left doesn't even have children?
Because they've given up on the future.
They projected that idea onto us, but we have a really good chance of turning this around or surviving what's coming.
Can civilization be turned around?
Can we turn this around?
Can it be survived?
Could it be turned around?
That's another big question I'll pose to callers if you'd like to comment on it.
dan friesen
Yeah, okay, so we're going to take calls on whether we should return to the pre-industrial revolution times.
jordan holmes
That would be a coup if there ever was one.
dan friesen
Is society worth saving?
jordan holmes
Listen!
dan friesen
Civilization is inherently wrong.
jordan holmes
We can't be dropping coal into the Thames anymore!
We have to stop!
dan friesen
It's interesting.
He doesn't really...
That's not a topic that gets fully explored.
jordan holmes
Very strange, yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's beyond the capability of this show to have that kind of a discussion, whether civilization was a mistake.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's absolutely no way that he can have the position that pre-industrialized society was better than post-industrialized.
He can't have it.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
He can't.
dan friesen
Nope.
But, you know what position he can have?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Biden.
Is a walk-in.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that one I think we all have.
dan friesen
Body doubles.
jordan holmes
Yes.
All right.
alex jones
I've seen the photos and the videos of the different Joe Biden.
And we'll pull up some of the side-by-side photos of just Biden the last few years, his face, and the weird chin that looks like it's rubber.
Now it moves around.
They pull up Biden's weird rubber chin where he's on Air Force One, and it's like...
I don't like to go with these conspiracy theories that, you know, the Beatles or, you know, John Lennon's still alive or Elvis is still alive or, you know, that I'm Bill Hicks.
I mean, there's definitely schizophrenics online that think all that, okay?
But with this and that body double, in fact, I forgot to tell the crew, about a year ago, a body double got caught sneaking out the back of the White House to get in a car, and it was that guy.
And I forgot to find the clip or send it to you.
Type body double.
Caught leaving White House.
And it's literally that guy, that face, that fake smile.
He's taller than Biden.
And presidents have had body doubles for over 100 years.
Saddam Hussein had a bunch.
So pull all that up, guys.
Saddam Hussein's body doubles.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
That'll prove it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, Saddam had body doubles.
That proves that there's fake Bidens.
jordan holmes
I, okay.
I don't care.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
If there are body doubles.
I don't care.
Right?
Like, that doesn't matter.
I care if he's a walk-in.
I care if he's plumpin'.
dan friesen
We know he's been plumpin'.
jordan holmes
See, this is what I'm saying.
I care about these things, but if there's a body double, I mean, he's got six months left.
Let him have a body double.
I don't care.
dan friesen
I think to whatever extent there are body doubles for the protection and safety of public figures.
I don't know, but I know that what he's talking about is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not Saddam Hussein's body doubles.
dan friesen
No.
And there's a video of Biden, and because of the angle of it, he looks a lot taller than usual.
And so people are like, this is a fucking fake Biden.
And Alex, you can even hear in his voice like this, I don't get into this stuff like the Beatles, you know, all this.
There's an embarrassment that he's doing this.
And he's like, I'll swim in these waters for a little bit of attention.
I just imagine.
I'm pulling off a scam.
I'm the globalist.
I have this great fake Biden.
Problem?
He's too tall.
If I'm in that situation, I don't run with it.
It's too obvious.
This guy's a foot taller.
jordan holmes
Sure, there is that challenge.
dan friesen
This is fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
There's absolutely no reason to go with...
I mean, you would assume that he's not the only person that applied.
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or was it a...
Now, what if it's a globalist buddy?
What if it's just a globalist buddy who needed a gig and looks enough like Biden to be like, eh, well...
dan friesen
If I'm this evil organization...
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And there's so much on the line.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
World control.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
All the riches of all the world's nations.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
The devil.
jordan holmes
He factors in.
dan friesen
He's a rough boss to please.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, if I have all of these stakes, I'm not going to be, like, fucking good enough, this obvious fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like I would be, like...
I expect to be fired for this.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of nonchalance that seems unearned from the globalists.
dan friesen
A lot of good enough.
I think they wouldn't just have a person who's a bunch taller or whatever.
jordan holmes
Also, that's just lazy.
That's just lazy.
That's just lazy.
Do something more interesting and more fun.
You've got infinite power and the devil, and you're just going to hire a body devil like a fucking stuntman for Tom Cruise?
Let it go.
dan friesen
I feel like...
This is not a is-it-cake situation.
You know, like where you're looking from a distance and it could be cake or it could be not.
It's Biden or maybe not.
jordan holmes
I hate that show so fucking much.
I hate it.
I hate that show and I hate the mole.
I hate any show that is essentially, is that the guy or not?
That's it.
I hate it.
dan friesen
I haven't seen The Mole in a long time.
I'm kind of enjoying it.
jordan holmes
No, my wife watches it.
The problem I have is every conversation is like, does this make you more or less likely to be The Mole?
dan friesen
Everybody won't stop talking about The Mole.
jordan holmes
It's The Mole!
dan friesen
That's the show!
So, Alex, he wants to take calls on whether or not civilization can be saved.
But he also wants to embarrassingly get into Biden body double conspiracies.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
dan friesen
And then he starts talking about how southern food isn't black.
It's not...
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's not like black cuisine.
Oh, God.
And then he gets hungry.
He spends a long time talking about Southern foods and how, like...
Bill Clinton, he wasn't racist for serving black leaders chicken.
jordan holmes
So the concept of slaves bringing seeds, foods from Africa to the United States as a way of staying in touch with their roots is not inherently...
dan friesen
It's just Southern.
jordan holmes
It's just Southern, okay.
alex jones
Now I want collard greens.
Will you guys go to Hoover's?
Seriously, that is a soul food place, actually.
But it's the same thing as Southern cooking.
It's the same damn thing.
dan friesen
I want to be clear.
This is maybe two or three minutes into him rambling about food and rice.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
Alright, I've just spent time on Southern cooking and now my stomach is growling.
But seriously, I challenge anybody in the North.
Come to Austin.
Go to a place that's known for good chicken fried steak and get a chicken fried steak and tell me you're not hooked.
Just tell me you're not.
The only thing better than a fried piece of chicken is a fried piece of red meat.
Now I'm actually drooling.
Of course, fried pork chops are pretty damn good too.
But no, I'm a beef guy.
And again, you don't take a regular steak and fried folks.
They take a piece of hammered steak.
Thin steak.
Kind of like a schnitzel.
Like the Germans have pork schnitzel and chicken schnitzel mainly.
Okay, now I'm really starting to get hungry.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
alex jones
I'm going to stop now.
Now the show has turned into a food program.
It'll be much more a happy show.
Let's have a cooking show.
And I will cook you chicken fried steak, collard greens, mashed potatoes, and sweet potatoes.
I guess in the north you'd call them yams.
But anyways, let's...
I will say this, though.
I've gone and sold kitchens.
In, like, New York and places thinking, oh, I want to eat some Southern food and it's not as good.
Now, the Black Southern cooking places in Texas are the best you're going to get.
But the Black people up North of places I've gone, I've been to a lot of them, they must have just picked up the menu and thought it was cool because they ain't cooking it.
And then you get into Chitlins.
jordan holmes
And then you get into Chitlins.
alex jones
And I'm not really a fan of it.
jordan holmes
And then you get into Chitlins.
alex jones
I've eaten pickled pig's feet.
Yes.
I have.
And then it's not that good.
All right, so not everything down here in the South is good.
I'm just saying.
Okay.
Now that we're into redneck land, play the one-minute promo on the good old boys.
I need to reset my brain.
I'm going to write your calls, and I apologize.
All this World War III talk's got me, like, thinking about fishing and hunting and frying chickens.
Here it is.
unidentified
Just a good old boy.
Bye.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
So there's a meme that Alex is playing of the Dukes of Hazzard, but it's J.D. Vance and Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
dan friesen
Fine.
I think that the cultural legacies of cuisine are something that I'm not an expert in by any means, but it's something that's very interesting in terms of the ways that...
You're talking about people who were brought over here enslaved and brought a lot of tradition with them.
There's a lot of Caribbean influence.
There's a lot of native ingredients and culinary tradition that all goes into what you call Southern cooking.
Sure, sure.
And so it's very interesting and very...
Complicated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, anytime you deal with the history of food, you're also dealing, in America especially, you're also dealing with the history of when and where they were oppressed.
You know, like, if you're talking about any kind of Chinese food in the United States, it is not Chinese food.
It is what people who were brought over here had borderline enslaved and excluded from any jobs.
We're able to make out of the ingredients that were already here.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a conversation that culture is having through food.
And that is something that is really interesting.
I think that Alex is just sort of like, I don't want to think about any of that.
I just am mad.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
All the soul food in Austin is made by black people in any ways.
Now that we're in redneck country and the only people that matter are white, let's go with...
dan friesen
It does feel like that's all he...
He just wants to think, like, no, this is white.
This is white stuff.
But I do think that beyond that...
Please do a cooking show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd watch this show.
dan friesen
In the same way with the painting show, I want Alex in these contexts.
I would love to see a Great British Bake Off type thing, but it's him losing his fucking mind at a tart.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, just going so mad.
jordan holmes
That would be great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And chicken fried steak would be perfect because you have to beat the shit out of it in order to flatten it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So it would be perfect.
And he could talk about how God spoke to him through one in his younger years.
Be perfect.
jordan holmes
It would be an excellent opportunity to really get into the idea of Tex-Mex food and then be like, listen.
I understand that Texas was stolen from Mexico, thereby making all Tex, they infect Mex.
But, let's talk it through.
Let's figure this out.
dan friesen
Let's talk tortilla.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So, I also like at the end of that clip the revelation that, or the reminder that people are on hold while he is just rambling about food.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen.
You try one of those chicken fried steaks?
Tell me.
Tell me you'll go back.
dan friesen
You're gonna have a vision.
So, in this next clip, Alex uses about a hundred words or so that all say, don't be violent.
But when put together, they're very clearly telling you to be violent.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
I would be a liar if I didn't say we're already in the house of war.
They've done plenty for us to get violent.
The problem is they're so sophisticated, they'll spin it, and we're winning politically.
We don't want to do it.
But they already tried to kill Trump because they're desperate.
They've gone to violence.
They want to go to violence.
But what you're saying is true, and I'll come back to you.
They're probably going to push us into it.
So once we're in it, like you're not looking for a fight, but somebody punches you in the nose.
All right, well, you wanted a fight?
You got one.
So yeah, and that's been hard for me to be shifting.
From trying to stop this to now spending part of my time thinking just about my defense.
And the best defense is an offense.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
Okay, so the best...
I think he's advocating for offensive violence.
jordan holmes
Well, we are in the house of war already.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Okay?
Therefore, we are already at war, meaning the rules of engagement include violence by necessity.
Otherwise, it's not war.
All right?
Now.
That said, we're clearly morally superior on account of how we steal things from people.
So, you know, we're being so nice not committing violence as it stands.
Now, we've got to be defending ourselves, and the only way, as we all know, to defend ourselves is to wipe out our enemies entirely.
dan friesen
Our defense is a good offense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't have to build a wall.
If you've killed everybody, you want to get out.
dan friesen
This is Alex advocating violence, offensive violence, in a way that is so cowardly and so just dancing around it so he can have plausible deniability.
It's very sad.
jordan holmes
I find it so interesting because, to me, it suggests either people in the legal profession don't know how to read at all, or...
They're complicit in this.
There's a certain amount of like, hey, listen, as long as you use enough words, we don't care.
As long as you don't say, hey, go kill people, then you can say, hey, go kill people.
But you need like a hundred words.
dan friesen
Well, I think that that is because of the ways in which legislating the kind of control that you're asking for.
Would impinge on a lot of other people's free speech.
jordan holmes
I'm not legislating for the kind of thing I'm asking for.
I'm just saying what words mean.
dan friesen
Alex can get away with this in the same way that you can get away with all kinds of crazy shit talk.
Sure, sure.
This is not illegal, is the thing.
It's just fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
Is it not illegal to say, go kill people?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay, then that's fine.
dan friesen
Like the Brandenburg versus Ohio and those Supreme Court decisions have pretty clearly delineated that the legal impact comes in when there's specifics and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Well, he's specifically telling you to go kill every Democrat on the fucking planet.
dan friesen
Well, but he's not being specific.
He's being vague enough that it's legal.
But the issue is, I think that he just wants something to happen that he can call a false flag.
Sure.
unidentified
That's just the tone that I get from the way he's talking.
jordan holmes
Sure, but I mean, you can never say that or be held accountable for that.
dan friesen
Well, I know what needs to be done.
alex jones
And I was sitting here during the last two-minute break thinking about how we stopped this, and I know the answer.
And I'm going to talk about it coming up a little bit later in the hour.
I'm going to write a note.
I'm going to do it.
And that's why they want me off the air.
Because they know I've got their number.
They know our callers have their number.
What amazing callers.
dan friesen
So I was pretty excited about this.
Alex knows what needs to be done, and he's going to tell us.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so because he had just said this thing about all the violence and stuff, I kind of thought, like, well, it's going to be something that continues that line of thought.
It is not.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm going to jump ahead to where Alex discusses what the plan is.
jordan holmes
What the plan is.
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's that Trump needs to start a podcast.
alex jones
And so, I told Trump, don't do outdoor rallies.
You should be in a bunker.
The deep state, they're only moves to kill you.
It's guaranteed.
They're coming for you.
Blow your airplane up, you name it.
But you can't just hide.
He's got to go on the air.
With emergency reports and guests, like a podcast, with Tucker Carlson and Carson and everybody else constantly on air there, you'll have hundreds of millions of views a day, billions.
Elon Musk will repost and everything.
I bet Trump starts doing that.
It'll build up to like a billion viewers a day.
He'll have the whole world watching.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So, yeah, what Trump needs to do is start an Infowars.
He should just make his own media empire, I guess.
alex jones
Woof.
dan friesen
This is the answer.
jordan holmes
It does feel like Alex's answer for most things is, do what I do!
dan friesen
Hold on.
Literally, in this next clip, Alex says, essentially, you need to do what I did.
jordan holmes
You need to do what I did.
alex jones
But Trump has some better people around him.
The wimps have been kicked out, but still, he's got other folks that...
Are smart, but are still in the system and aren't that sophisticated.
And by that, I mean they're not that jaded.
They don't know what they're really up against.
They're naive still.
They're not bad.
They're naive.
He's got basically none of the good people around him now.
But they, I mean, probably I talked to top Trump people, and they all know this.
They go, yeah, we briefed the president on that.
We agree.
We hope he listens, and now he is.
He has to just come right out with fireside chats.
And not say stuff like, I took a bullet for democracy.
Little cutesy lines.
He's got to level his political guns right at the enemy and say, if anything happens to me, this is his responsible.
And let them scream.
Let them yell.
Let them say it's irresponsible.
Everybody wants the truth.
They know the truth.
Guaranteed, Trump gets even more successful and powerful.
You've got to do what I've done.
dan friesen
You've got to do what I've done.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now, here's what's interesting about this.
Alex is saying that Trump needs to come out and say, if anything happens to me, here's what you need to do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But at the beginning of this episode, Alex is complaining about Netanyahu saying if Iran assassinates Trump, you've got to blow up Iran.
But that's what Trump said.
So Trump already did do the thing that Alex is saying.
Huh.
But he was complaining about it earlier because he was saying that Netanyahu said it.
unidentified
Yep.
Hmm.
Yep.
dan friesen
I get what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is that there's a lot of money to be made in bullshit.
And Trump is very good at capturing attention, and he's very good at this.
Not...
Quite so good at being the president.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he should just do that.
He should be like me.
jordan holmes
You know, I think what's funny about that is that I understand why Alex would think that's a good idea, and I understand why people in general would think that's a good idea, because Trump is media-created kind of thing.
But that's where people mistake the show part of it.
He couldn't sustain your attention because he's not interesting.
dan friesen
I told you I was watching the RNC and I checked out of his speech.
jordan holmes
Everybody did.
People leave early.
It is because he's packaged in a digestible way by the media.
Who are very good at it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're so good at it that they can turn him into somebody that you would think is interesting, despite the fact that he's incredibly boring.
dan friesen
Even if it is the interesting in the inverse direction of, like, what you want to exist.
You know, it's interesting as a, like, nefarious...
Not to say that he isn't nefarious, but, like, you know...
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's the irony of the meme about narrative being unable to hurt you, is, like, it essentially...
They have manufactured all of this out of narrative.
That is far more powerful than taking somebody's head off at 700 feet or whatever you think is great.
dan friesen
Still can't eat it.
jordan holmes
Yes, you can!
That's why you're fixing my car is because I can eat it.
I can eat the narrative.
dan friesen
No idea what that means.
jordan holmes
You need money.
That's the narrative.
dan friesen
Here's my idea.
We just go ahead, give the 2024 election to Kamala Harris.
jordan holmes
Is that how we do it?
dan friesen
Trump gracefully bows out and takes his rightful position as the co-host of Alex's cooking show.
jordan holmes
Alright, that now actually would sustain my attention.
A great deal.
Watching the two of them just try and figure out any recipe would be absolutely captivating.
dan friesen
What is this?
What is this, cumin?
jordan holmes
And they, like, you have to, they're locked inside.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
From the outside.
You think there is no escape.
dan friesen
It is a satellite of love situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, 100% yes.
We will be, we'll send you a recipe every day.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
If Alex could create his own robot friends.
jordan holmes
Oh god, I, I mean.
dan friesen
Kind of, maybe he has.
jordan holmes
If, if.
unidentified
Chase.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Rob Dew.
jordan holmes
I know.
If we captured him and neutralized his threat to the rest of society, I think he's a great form of entertainment.
dan friesen
Especially in those kind of light areas.
Like a painting show.
Like a cooking show.
His anger would be very funny.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
dan friesen
Not so funny here.
So Alex has decided that he's on a suicide mission, of course.
Sure.
Many years ago, he discussed that...
Drunkenly with Patrick Pet David at that hotel room.
jordan holmes
Life's very fragile.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But he's had a suicide mission that he's on still, I guess.
And there's a 50-50 chance of survival.
jordan holmes
Well, then it's not a suicide mission.
It's just a very difficult mission.
dan friesen
No, suicide missions are 50-50.
jordan holmes
It is a dangerous mission.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Not a suicide mission.
dan friesen
50-50.
So then he talks about how he went to Hawaii and met with the chief.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I've had to.
Go through that process now of when you go on a suicide mission, which means you've got a 50-50 chance of returning.
And I've had to mentally...
jordan holmes
How do words work?
alex jones
...who I am, make the decision.
I can instantly sell out like that.
Cannot do it.
Physically cannot.
Spiritually, it's impossible.
But still, there's a weird shadow of guilt.
For putting my family in this position.
But then I realized that's short term.
They're in a much worse position if I don't make the right decision now.
You understand what I'm saying?
So I'm doing the right thing.
The only choice I've got is full commitment against these people.
And then I feel sorry for their minions who are so disconnected from the real world.
When we defeat these people, it won't be a victory.
It'll just be survival.
You understand?
I have no pleasure in what's going to happen to these people.
They're all either going to surrender and be put into purgatory politically, or they will be destroyed.
And the level of hatred for the globalists everywhere is so intense.
I mean, I've been to Kauai like six times in my life.
And the last two times I was there, it's so beautiful.
I met with the head, you know, the real, you know, they don't have it officially, but the head chief of the Lions, all the people.
jordan holmes
All the people.
All the people.
alex jones
Everywhere, no matter where I went, the Hawaiians, but also the white people and everybody else are just like, first thing we're doing, this all goes down, is going to Zuckerberg's house.
And I'm like, I'm not even joining in on it.
And I'm sitting there drinking beer on the beach, on the edge of the mountains.
In the Royal Hawaiian Preserve.
And they're just literally sitting there talking about Zuckerberg.
And biding their time.
And that's everywhere, folks.
dan friesen
That does make me feel really sad for the minions who are disconnected from reality.
You know?
Really, really just makes you sad.
For them.
jordan holmes
I, here's, okay.
Alright.
So, we're morally inferior to these people.
They're great.
dan friesen
To the patriots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're globalists.
We're evil.
We're in league with the devil.
dan friesen
Certainly by Alex's definition.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
But, according to Alex, should we voluntarily surrender, we will still be treated like shit as second-class citizens.
dan friesen
Now, that's interesting, because what you're getting around to is what he described as purgatory politically.
jordan holmes
What an interesting, idiotic conglomeration of words.
dan friesen
I wonder if that's jail.
jordan holmes
Is that jail?
I don't know.
Whatever it could mean, it essentially means that he is 100% fine with creating an underclass of people who were not sufficiently loyal to Trump.
Which, I don't know if he's ever heard of anybody who's ever done that before.
Two things happen.
One, everybody winds up going in there.
That doesn't, uh, because it turns out you can never be loyal enough.
dan friesen
And it's not very purgatory-like.
jordan holmes
No!
Oh, no.
And two, sooner or later people go, well, fuck this!
And start problems and we begin all over again.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I think this is stupid.
jordan holmes
I think it's dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, well.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, the two concepts that are in there, other than the Alex's friends with the chief of Hawaii.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is fun.
jordan holmes
Chief of chiefs.
dan friesen
The other two concepts in there are the 50-50 suicide mission and political purgatory.
jordan holmes
I hate that.
I hate two things.
I hate two things.
One, I hate that 50-50 suicide mission makes me laugh uncontrollably.
It is so stupid and so confidently said.
dan friesen
Awful.
jordan holmes
And two, political purgatory is, of all the euphemisms I've ever heard, one that makes me genuinely hate language.
dan friesen
Well, I think that Alex, whenever he says politically, he means...
Violently.
I'm thinking about murder.
And so I have to use this word as a not-murder.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So I think that, like...
It's a gruesome murder for the people who don't surrender.
And then it's sort of like a, we'll give you a gentle death.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's an execution.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's kind of what I think he's...
jordan holmes
So I'm interested in why he wants him to win.
dan friesen
So the minions of the globalists, not the minions who are at the opening ceremony of the Olympics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The minions of the globalists, they're so disconnected from reality.
Unlike Alex, who tells this very real story.
alex jones
We were getting on at the end of the plane in San Francisco, about to fly back from cover Bohemian Grove.
And I hadn't been, you know, I mean, literally every few months, maybe one person says something to me.
I've gone about a year without it.
Now it's happened three or four times.
I think the HBO documentary has done that.
But I'll shake like 500 hands before I get attacked once, maybe 1,000.
So I probably shook, let's not exaggerate, 100 hands in the airport.
And my wife had to go to the bathroom.
So we're at the very end of the plane with like five or six other people.
About to get on.
I've got my daughter with me.
Rob Dew was there.
I didn't have my camera out, obviously.
I wasn't expecting it.
And a guy in a UT shirt walks over.
Probably a 60-year-old white guy.
He goes, you ought to be ashamed of yourself what you did to those children.
You're a horrible person.
Aren't you ashamed of yourself?
And I said, I love you.
He started calling me names and stuff, and I said, I love the fact that people that love evil hate me.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And I said, just like the Nazis, you don't realize you're the bad guy.
And he was like, and by then the ticket clerks, I was like three people behind.
Now I was up to the thing.
I'm like, give them the ticket.
And he's leaning over.
And I say, ma 'am, this guy's harassing me.
And she just ignores that and starts laughing at him.
And then the next three people, it was like a black lady.
jordan holmes
Don't.
Whatever you're about to do.
alex jones
It was a black guy, a white lady, a white guy.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
And they all go, we love you.
We think you're amazing.
We love you.
And they all jump on me and literally hug me in front of this guy.
I didn't even know they were listeners.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Flying back to Austin.
Direct flight, San Francisco.
That had been delayed some.
And in seconds, because I didn't, because my wife was there by then.
I was waiting for her.
You know, I ignored the guy after that.
But I saw him.
And he was like, he had tears in his house.
He's like, oh.
You see, he's all about, he's the establishment.
He's got the universities, the media, BlackRock, MSNBC, CNN behind him.
He's telling me, be ashamed.
You're a loser.
You're bad.
You're a failure.
And instantly, I'm hugged by three people.
He literally, and we think you're amazing.
We love you, Alex.
I'm like, hey, I think you're amazing.
We start hugging and stuff.
And he just kind of scurried off.
dan friesen
Yeah, he starts crying.
And then we all fucked at the airport.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
You know, it makes me...
Let me throw...
Okay, alright.
I'm starting to think...
dan friesen
I love that he started crying.
jordan holmes
I just...
I don't even know.
I don't even know how to describe this.
dan friesen
I'm sorry, I interrupted you.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
I just feel like...
You know the story of Elijah, right?
What if Elisha and Elijah are walking, right?
And Elijah trips and just falls into the ravine.
And Elisha's like, well, this is not how the prophet gets to die.
That's just not cool.
Just broken ass neck.
So then he starts talking, starts telling the story.
All of a sudden, people are around, and then he's flown up into heaven on chariots of fire.
I feel like Elisha and Alex have a lot in common right now.
dan friesen
Especially at the airport.
Yeah.
I mean, what I wouldn't give...
To, like, have half of the experiences he has at the airport.
There were all those people who started, like, crying and cheering that, like, everyone loved him because they got to experience it firsthand.
You remember that?
That was pretty recently.
jordan holmes
Yep, I remember that one.
dan friesen
And now this time, this hater, Alex gets dogpiled by people who love him, and then this hater goes away with tears in his eyes.
These are dramatic moments.
jordan holmes
They really are.
And what I find so fascinating about them is that they are all...
They all have something you can take with you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that is how great Alex is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They all have an underlying theme that is consistent.
And they're not overwritten.
Like, the characters are believable.
jordan holmes
You know?
I think the minions being yellow and not speaking English is more believable.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex gets back into the buddy double conspiracies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I really do think that he's a little bit ashamed to be doing this.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I said I would do this, and this is red meat.
I could do stuff like this all day and have viral videos everywhere, but most of it's crap.
But, you know, Jim Morris is not alive.
Elvis isn't alive.
I'm not Bill Hicks.
But Biden, they got body doubles.
I mean, that's going on.
I mean, this new Biden is like six, eight inches taller and doesn't even look like...
That's too tall.
That's the coup.
It looks like the real Biden is getting off Air Force One.
And they go, why'd you resign?
He laughs at me.
I didn't do that.
So I'm like, something's going on.
And it just shows how they're lying about everything.
Of course they're lying about this.
So I'll do a report on that.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex, he talks about this, but he's also like, but he's not, Biden's not running in 2024, so who cares?
And I guess he's trying to imply maybe that Biden's been dead for a while.
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's just like...
jordan holmes
I don't get this.
I just don't get it.
dan friesen
Well, I think that...
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's not running for president anymore.
dan friesen
No, but people were posting a lot of memes about this, and so Alex wants to get in on it, and he feels like it's beneath him, even though it's not.
jordan holmes
It is.
unidentified
Well.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's not.
But in his conception of himself, it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, the guy who gets mobbed at the airport and a hater cries.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They're above talking about dumb body double theories.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And so, Alex, I think...
jordan holmes
God tells him what time it is early in the morning.
dan friesen
Right.
He's projecting a little bit of, like, shame.
And that's good, because he should be ashamed.
jordan holmes
He should be.
dan friesen
These theories are stupid.
jordan holmes
Body doubles is dumb.
dan friesen
So I told you, we had one clip that would be our last clip.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That involves Alex saying something I don't think I've ever heard him say before.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that is this clip.
The scholar says that he's going to give Alex, he only has $200 in the bank, and he's going to give Alex some money.
And here's what happens.
alex jones
Don't feel bad because you don't have a bunch of extra money.
You've got a connection to God, the truth.
That is what's not just most valuable, that's everything.
And then from that relationship, everything else comes.
unidentified
Absolutely, and I want to say thank you for that.
I really appreciate that.
You know, I'm leaning more on God than ever.
I also wanted to say to all the other listeners out there, everybody who called in, you know, God bless all you guys.
Go to Alex Jones' website, Infowars.com.
Please donate.
I have...
Like $200 in the bank, as soon as I get out the phone, I'm going to donate some fucking money because there's nothing else to do.
I mean, we've got to keep these people online, on air, that are telling the fucking truth.
Otherwise, we cannot fight against it.
alex jones
Well, brother, listen, I appreciate your call.
We've got to get a break.
If you've only got $200 in the bank, don't donate.
Please don't.
It's all these middle class and rich people that sit on the fence that need these products anyways.
They should go do it.
Do not do that, sir.
Well, I mean, Nitric Boost is amazing.
X2 is great for your kids.
Fucking hell!
But don't do that.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
alex jones
Share the articles.
Share the videos.
Pray for the show.
Pray for the broadcast.
No money's needed.
Just pray for the show.
Just say a prayer for me and my family.
Believe me, I need it.
And pray for the broadcast.
And then share the links.
Do not buy anything, okay?
Don't.
I don't want people that are in a bad situation to give their, you know, whatever.
But everybody else on the fence, you're going to lose everything because you sat on your ass.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's weird.
I don't think I've ever heard that, Alex telling people not to buy stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is weird.
Well, I mean, but at the same time, he still has the, like, sure, these are all great products.
dan friesen
He can't help it.
jordan holmes
He can't not.
dan friesen
He can't help but double back a little bit.
unidentified
Well, sure.
dan friesen
But I do think that there was something that came through that was like, if you have $200 in the bank, take care of yourself.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, maybe he doesn't usually talk like that.
Maybe he has greater perspective because the essential core of scamming is taking people who, Have far more hope than they do money, and taking their money by using their hope.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
So, generally speaking, scammers aren't like, hey, oh, you don't have enough money for me to steal from you.
They're like, you have the right amount of money, any.
dan friesen
I think that if, like, I just think Alex is almost like...
$200 isn't going to make a difference.
Even if you gave me everything that you have, you're not going to make a difference.
jordan holmes
There's definitely that.
There is a certain amount of...
It's a lot easier to be like, don't give me money whenever you're like, eh, it's a drop in the $1.5 billion bucket.
dan friesen
Right.
I need a billionaire to come around and give me a million.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't know what to make of it really outside of it being a decent moment.
I talk a lot about how much Alex is just like this crass fucking selling everything and the scams that he's clearly running in terms of evading the bankruptcies and stuff like that.
I just think it would have been unfair if we have this moment and I don't point it out.
jordan holmes
It is interesting.
It is very interesting.
I mean, I don't wanna read too deep into it.
Or at all.
dan friesen
No, but...
jordan holmes
But I will say, I mean, that does suggest that change is possible in some small way.
dan friesen
No, I think it's just a moment.
I think it is just a moment.
And maybe there's a little bit of shame that Alex is feeling on this episode because of the ambivalence about the body double stories.
He's kind of like, I don't...
I'm not going to do this stuff.
I want to give you my money.
Take care of yourself.
Don't worry about it.
jordan holmes
Okay, let me ask you this question.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
If he was cooking...
Right.
If he was feeling like, I'm fucking killing this show, do you think he's still going to be like, don't give me your money?
dan friesen
I think it would have gone differently.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think so.
I don't know.
I've heard this exact exchange happen and him not say don't buy anything.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
dan friesen
You know, he's been like, thanks for supporting the Infowar, brother.
jordan holmes
It means more that you support...
dan friesen
The widow's might.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, that kind of shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
100% that.
dan friesen
But yeah, I don't know.
It just seems like his mood.
His mood is kind of...
A little human of...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't care.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine.
Like, it doesn't...
Okay.
If any prosperity gospel preacher was like, hey, sir, you don't have to give me $5, I'd be like, we're still fighting.
I'm never looking back.
dan friesen
Yeah, and generally I think that if this prosperity gospel person is saying, don't give me $5, that's to try and impress the guy who can give you $10.
Exactly.
So that kind of still feels like what he's doing with the nitric boost is really great.
jordan holmes
The scam is the scam.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But yeah, I thought this episode was really stupid.
I think that the fact that he's complaining about a Trump post and saying it was from Netanyahu's speech, it really kind of set things off on a bad foot.
And because so much of the show is based on that, it just feels dumb.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he spends about six minutes talking about food.
And I think he loses himself a little bit.
jordan holmes
Somehow still being a racist.
Can't even talk about food without being a racist.
dan friesen
And that's kind of what I would be worried about in his cooking show.
jordan holmes
There is that.
Here's what's wrong with the blank.
No!
No!
Just cook, man!
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll be back with another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgeright.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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