Knowledge Fight - #948: July 24, 2024

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#948: July 24, 2024

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Knowledge Fight #948 dissects Alex Jones’ July 24, 2024, episode where he pivoted to wild claims—like a CIA-orchestrated Trump assassination attempt and Kamala Harris’ "border czar" title as right-wing branding—while dismissing callers questioning his own credibility. He promoted Dr. Stella Emmanuel’s expired-medicine stockpiling advice, ignoring risks like resistance or toxicity, and pivoted to The Shooter trailer as "predictive programming." Despite mocking mainstream media, Jones selectively rejects conspiracies (e.g., JD Vance’s VP selection) while his show thrives on unhinged rhetoric, proving his theories adapt to convenience rather than evidence. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 17:38

dan friesen

36:35

jordan holmes

23:03

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chase geiser

infowars 00:30

dennis hendrickson

01:30

dr stella immanuel

00:44

kamala harris

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Speaker	Time	Text
unidentified		I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
unidentified		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Shang B are the bad guys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
unidentified		Dan and Jordan.
unidentified		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I need money.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Pandy.
		Stop it.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Kansas.
		It's time to pray.
		Andy and Kansas, you're on the airplane for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm a fish-fanter fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your room.
		Knowledge fight.
		Knowledgefight.com.
		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back, Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like to sit around and worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Quick question for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot today is I've been getting into a blank check with Griffin Newman and David Singh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say that movie from the 90s that I remember eerily specifically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that movie where the rich guy gives the kid a bunch of stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A check and buys a bunch of stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		It's not a rich guy who gives it to him.
		See, it was a bad guy who had obtained it through nefarious means.
		And then he had accidentally dropped the check or whatever after signing it.
		The kid takes some money out of the bank and they're all like, I don't know if this is okay because there's no production since the 90s.
		And then the evil guy is like, why the fuck did you let a child take out hundreds of thousands of dollars?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, now I'm really into this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a great movie.
		And then he builds a roller coaster in his backyard.
		No, every dream I have ever had happened in the 90s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get this mixed up with like Brewster's Millions in my mind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was also a dream movie for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These movies about people who have too much money all of a sudden.
		Yes.
		But yeah, no, the podcast, I don't really like movies all that much.
		I'm not a big movie guy.
		Oh, but it's fun to listen to people who care a lot talk really in depth about movies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I've heard about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the show where they like talk about whenever super famous directors get too much money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, when they have a big hit and pop culture gives them a blank check.
		Right.
		And so you follow their career trajectories of like whether that check cashes or bounces.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's really interesting to.
		They're also very funny and charming.
		That's great.
		But yeah, I'm enjoying that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Peek into movies that I don't know anything about a lot of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very few, very few podcasts get an advertisement from us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I enjoy it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot is to piggyback on our last show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My wife is home.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hooray!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's home.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We went on our trip, you know, and we took a bunch of flights.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And while we're flying, it's fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Debatable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For me as well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I mean in the air, like I'm not worried.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When she was flying yesterday, for some reason, I was just in that state of like, oh my.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You were worried on her behalf.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
		I couldn't imagine.
		I couldn't believe how worried I was about a flight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's like, but then you stop and think, and it's like, the past five days have been all airlines are essentially on computer fire.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's more reasonable to be slightly worried or concerned now than perhaps two years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We guessed it.
		I guess so.
		Maybe.
		Or maybe you're talking yourself into just giving yourself a pass.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not giving myself a pass.
		I'm just saying that I feel like I was the last time, or last year, whenever she flew, she flew across the ocean.
		Not as worried as this time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so this is about the crowd strike.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		I think so.
		I think it was like a part of me being like, oh, man, I understand that Southwest just pushes you on a plane, and that's why they're still flying.
		But I don't know if that's good.
		Is that good?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think there's a little bit more rationality to your worry than in other circumstances.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But she's home safe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She made it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Came in last night, if you recall correctly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
unidentified		Nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Drove her from Midway to the home.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gorgeous historic Midway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The beauty of Midway Airport.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of the best two airports in Chicago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is a firm number two.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, congratulations.
		I'm glad she made it back safe.
		Yeah, it's nice.
		So today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be talking about the 24th of July.
		That would be Wednesday's show of this week.
		Biden has dropped out of the race.
		Right now, I assume you've learned a little bit more about that.
		You filled yourself in on stuff.
		It's not that important.
		This episode will largely be a bunch of nonsense and Alex being really racist about Kamala Harris.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds about right.
		I think we're previewing the next several months.
		Yeah, I would imagine that this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And possibly years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could be.
		Could be.
		Might not never end.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So first, Chloe from Alaska.
		Thank you so much.
		You're an Iowa Policy Walk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, congratulations to Russell, one of the Glasgow wonks who stopped the planned assassination of Jordan on his graduation on Thursday.
		Keep up the good fight.
		All my love.
		Amy, Daisy, and Momo.
		Thank you so much.
		You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's what happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it was a specific person who canceled the plot against me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We appreciate it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is very nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, yet another Dr. Jones Big Naturals.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Uranio Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		I'm going to limit those.
		I only just.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you're flooded.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I need to limit those, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Eric L. Thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		And we got a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.
		So thank you so much to all caps here.
		So imagine me yelling this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it MF Doom?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you spell the man's name.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All caps.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Conspiracy empires burned to the fucking ground.
		Eddie, thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go honking on and telling you, brilliant.
		Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
		Daddy Sharp.
		Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified		He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to hate black people.
		I renounce Jesus Christ.
		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		I don't want to hate black people.
		It's harder now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait till a little bit later in the episode.
		So we start off on this Wednesday episode of Alex's with a problem.
		There's a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's too much news.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've got a big problem on this July 24th live Wednesday transmission.
		There's just too much news, too much incredible stuff to cover.
		And it also cleared the slate of most of the guests because I wanted to open up an X spaces for people to comment on the state of the world.
		And 11 days after the Timothy assassination of Trump and Biden stepping down, set to give a speech tonight.
		We'll have live coverage here with Owen Schroyer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's got so much big news that I've canceled all of our guests so everyone can talk shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen, 99.999% of the time when he says there's too much news, I disagree with him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But right now, I honestly think there might be too much news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is so much going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody needs to slow it down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so little that he brings to the table in terms of those new stories.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Infuriating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it is strange to just like, you know, you hear that and you're like, it's been 11 days since the attempted assassination.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's been 7,000 years.
		It isn't.
		There have been three Cleopatra's born and dead in the meantime.
		Empires have risen and fallen in the past 7,000 years or since last Tuesday or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ugh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, we're just going to just kick all the guests out and talk to people on Twitter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be a good idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Different people rewrote Ozimandius in the meantime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, hey, just a reminder, guys, not going to take it with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and here we are.
		So Kamala Harris is the presumptive nominee for the Democrat Party.
		And the media is set on gaslighting you about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Amazing levels of rewriting history and 1984 level gaslighting where there's running headlines everywhere fact-checking.
		Kamala Harris was never a border czar.
		She was never in charge of the border.
		It's a right-wing line.
		Now, that's like saying the river that runs through by Virginia and Maryland is not the Potomac.
		It's like saying the Grand Canyon is not in Arizona.
		It's like saying the Statue of Liberty isn't on Staten Island.
		I mean, it's just, I mean, even the dumbest person has to know that she was the border czar for the last three and a half years.
		And we have the articles and videos, him announcing her, press conferences, and they're just like, it's not true.
unidentified		It's all lies.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right-wing evil.
		The corporate media knows people don't believe him anymore.
		They just culture jam to create confusion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just culture jamming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's a slight game being played here because the term czar is not really an official title in the government.
		Presidents often delegate certain areas of policy to a particular official, and then the media will take to calling them things like the climate czar or energy czar.
		In this case, it is true that Biden chose Harris to be the point person on migration issues back when they were first elected in 2021.
		And you could make an argument that therefore she would be the border czar or something.
		It's not accurate to what she was responsible for, given that her role was more about the larger issue than just the border, but it would also be a little bit inaccurate to pretend that there's no basis for this title.
		Sure.
		It's not an official title, and it's generally been used as a catchphrase to attack Kamala Harris since.
		For instance, in February 2022, Texas Representative Ronnie Jackson tried to pass the Border Czar Accountability Act, which would make Harris visit the border every 60 days, along with a number of other requirements that he wanted to impose.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that'd be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyone who watched the RNC would notice that they were largely animated by a fear and hatred of immigrants with signs and chance of send them back making frequent appearances.
		One of the clear elements of this messaging was that many of the speakers complained about Kamala Harris, specifically calling her the quote border czar.
		This was an effort in branding, and it's pretty easy to see through, and that's why it's so important to someone like Alex.
		After the RNC, there were articles and outlets like Vox that were explaining this very clear and transparent GOP messaging campaign and how it's not really accurate.
		The Vox sub-headline for their article is, quote, no, Kamala Harris is not the border czar, but that doesn't matter to Republicans.
		The article was attempting to explain that the HHS and DHS have responsibility for the border, whereas Harris's mission was more about diplomacy and the underlying causes of migration.
		But with a headline like this, it's easy for Alex to pretend that the media is just gaslighting everybody and pretending that she had no involvement with border issues or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, I would say that's, yeah, that's on them.
		Yeah, I think Vox fucked up on this one, and I think the media should probably be a little bit more careful about using words.
		Tsar might not have been an appropriate word for democracy to use.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think there's criticism to go in both directions.
		But also, this czar terminology goes back a bit further than you think.
		Sure.
		Like, I remember it being a hot topic of conversation with the Bush administration.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it predates that considerably.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, I thought it was maybe more of a newer terminology.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's not really.
		I think, I think, yeah.
		I would say the criticism is be a little more careful.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's what I'm saying.
		Like, that's, that's, that's the thing about it, though.
		It is that it was germinated, I'm certain for expedience, uh, a little bit of flavor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like a fun word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Adding a little bit of touch to that, a little bit of imagery.
		I like it.
		I think it's great.
		But then, you know, 50 years later, we're saddled with people like Alex rightfully using the word czar to kind of be a dick.
		Like, you should have fucking thought about that.
		Now, it's not your fault.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		People from the 40s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You were fighting a war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, the issue is that, like, there's a nuance to reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is ignoring that in order to make his complaint.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, if you're not reading a Vox article, then you see an Alex headline, then, yeah, I mean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, these articles aren't saying that Harris had no involvement or it wasn't delegated to her.
		Migration issues were in her portfolio.
		Sure, sure, sure.
		That's not what people are claiming.
		No.
		They're arguing that this border czar title is a right-wing attack.
		Right.
		That's very clear.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so there's problems on messaging on both sides of this one, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not stoked about anybody's work lately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think Alex is worse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's obvious when he starts talking about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doing this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember the last five years of her on the radar.
		You know, when she was running for president and then was picked as the VP and then they stole the election almost four years ago.
		But now that people are putting a spotlight back on her, it reminded me she's even worse than I thought.
		I mean, she's such an evil, stupid person at the same time, cackling witch and totally fake in every way that it's really hard to even try to grasp it.
		I've got more than 20 clips here of her making an absolute fool of herself, and there's just hundreds more.
		My eyes were bleeding this morning sending these to the crew.
		Just clip after clip after clip after clip after clip of the most insane crap you've ever witnessed.
		And then they're spinning it that she is the she's black and the Republican leadership's like, what's making about the fact that she's a diversity hire?
		Because I mean, there's plenty of black women that could be present.
		They're smart, but this lady certainly isn't black.
		And she certainly isn't smart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so here we are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like there's a lot of ways that you could probably attack Harris in terms of, you know, there's some policy disagreements you can have and shit like that, but this is just unhinged racism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I mean, let's face it, I'm just not going to be in an 1850s market with people in Louisiana being like, oh, I don't like those.
		You know, no, not going to happen.
		I'm not doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's shocking.
		And Alex says that he's like, his eyes were bleeding watching these clips.
		He ends up playing a number of clips where she's making complete sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And she seems like a pretty smart and thoughtful person.
		It's just, I don't know.
		If this is where we're going, this is thin.
		And I think one of the issues is that the right wing largely operates a lot of this media ecosystem relies on memes and trying to elicit reaction from people.
		And I think that there has been a lot of people who have made some pretty fun memes about Harris.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that that's threatening to people like Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I hadn't considered that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That hadn't occurred to me that people would care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's bananas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that's legitimately terrifying that there's like coconut memes and stuff like that going around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that that is something that Alex can't combat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Finally.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Finally, they are.
		Hey, listen, when they go low, you go fucking lower, man.
		You go coconut low.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You go loc is what you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When they go meme, you go meme.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Alex's response to that is, oh, they're going meme.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I better go racist as shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Better call her a word.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Biden dropped out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But maybe he was forced to.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you're also welcome to call in or be a speaker on X about Kamala, Biden disappearing.
		Now Report Lee's going to officially drop out of the race in the speech tonight.
		Not just that letter that wasn't even on the letterhead and wasn't even his signature.
		Looks like they pulled a dirty trick on him while he was drugged up or something coming back from Vegas, which they meant was a medical emergency.
		While he was drugged up for a few days, went ahead and said, C, sorry, you already resigned.
		No getting out of this now.
		And now they're all just trying to, reportedly, they meant he's been super mad throwing fetch.
		Then after six days, he emerges stumbling around.
		We've got the video of that coming up.
		And they say, you know, why did you drop out?
		He goes, ha ha, yeah.
		Like, yeah, I didn't drop out.
		So just absolutely insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is wild stuff.
		What we've got going on in the world is they drugged him up, and then they hacked his Twitter.
		They got on his Twitter.
		They put out this statement.
		He wakes up, and they're like, hey, you dropped out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
		Yeah, yeah.
		See, actually, here's what's crazy about that.
		I think that is a great point.
		Is that part of the reason that he did drop out is because if he was 55, nobody would be like, oh, if he was asleep for too long, you might be able to lie him into resigning from the United States office of president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that makes it any more believable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying if you're 81, I'd be more likely, more likely.
		I'm not saying it happened because it didn't happen.
		That's not close to how it worked.
		He's fine.
		He's still the president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This could be the inciting incident of like a really interesting Bullworth type movie where you're a president and maybe you're a little bit too threatening to the establishment or something like that.
		And so they drug you and then announce that you're not running for re-election and you now have to deal with like, I didn't post that.
		What are you going to do?
		Or maybe you take the threatening to the establishment part out of that time that you're still president, you now make it your mission to do the most good possible because you're not going to get that re-election.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
		I like that.
		Now that you've got nothing, you've got nothing to lose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can brew Biden's billions.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And of course, the tension is that by the time the election comes, the American public loves you so much that demanding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have to be.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
		Let me throw this out at you.
		Presidento.
		All right.
		It's a president who can only remember the past minute.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then we film it backwards.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tattoos.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's up for everyone tattooed on his shoulder?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump's not cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Call people Jack.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think the American people could all get behind that as a president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		So Alex talks a little bit about his business issues in this next clip.
		And it appears that I think things are evolving a little bit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What we do have plenty of, and it's great products, is a private label line that's called InfoWars MD.
		I learned two years ago.
		That's a lot of pain suppliers of raw materials.
		Our sub-supplier, one of our manufacturers, was listeners and patriots.
		And I called the owner.
		It's a billion-dollar company, one of the major makers.
		They said, listen, our whole line is yours.
		We just don't want to get in the middle of it politically, so just don't say our name.
		We will let you private label all of this drop shipped out of their warehouse with like one-day service.
		You know, you order it, it ships in like a day or two, depending on the day.
		You order on a Saturday, it doesn't ship on Sunday.
		And it's the exact same tumor that's in bodies.
		Just to give you an example, they had the nitric boost was their product.
		And we said, well, we can fund ourselves if we can go make that somewhere else.
		They said, sure, just have the product.
		It's how nice they work.
		So we went and made that.
		But all they do is tack three to $4 on every order.
		And it's bottled.
		They put our label on it, everything.
		So we've got our costs.
		They get their three to four bucks.
		And then we put a markup on it so we can fund ourselves.
		So you're literally getting a top-of-the-line supplement line.
		I mean, they've got over 100 products.
		So I think we've probably labeled 15 or so.
		Their joint relief is amazing.
		Their prostate support is amazing.
		Their nerve renew is amazing.
		Their good night sleep is amazing.
		Their ashwagandha products are amazing.
		It's Infowars MD, private labeled, and they got plenty of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you've paid attention to Alex's show, you'll know that he gets the nitric boost from Judy Mikovitz's company.
		And they discussed that the last time that she was on the show.
		I probably wouldn't even remember that except for those commercials that Alex had where he's talking about nitric boost giving him painful erections.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's allowed to have a company?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think that she just gets it from another supplier, too.
		I think she has probably her own sort of private labeling thing that all goes down.
		There's a root of this, some company that they're both getting it from, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But you know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like, I just like how above board everything is.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's real cool.
		Yeah.
		So she obviously doesn't have her own supplement lab and industry and stuff.
		She just uses her high profile to sell other people's supplements.
		And it appears that one of those companies that she works with is now letting Alex private label their shit by slapping a cheap-looking Infowars MD logo on it and giving Alex a cut.
		This is part of Alex's very overt strategy to navigate the fallout of the Sandy Hook cases and stay rich.
		Dr. Jones Naturals exist so that no matter what, Alex will have a supplement business run by a family member that's outside the reach of collections and can sponsor any business that he starts next.
		In the same way that Alex got his first radio show because his dad's dental business promised the station to buy ad time, Alex will get his last radio show because his dad's fake pill business is buying all of the ad time.
		The private labeling thing is a secondary part of the strategy, which is aimed a bit towards the possibility of staying on air with Infowars as a brand intact.
		The arrangement here is pure profit for Alex because the other company is doing all the production and shipping, so there's zero overhead.
		Alex just promotes this shit, directs people to buy it, and then gets a percentage.
		The game here is to put money into InfoWars because Alex is personally in bankruptcy and he's going to have to sell the company.
		If he wants to have any chance of attracting anyone to buy it, he needs to make it look like a profitable business.
		If there isn't the appearance that it's a sustainable business, there's no real argument for someone to buy it.
		And there's a stronger argument to liquidate the whole thing and then just walk away from it.
		So here he doesn't have to have his InfoWars life or InfoWars health as businesses that have some exposure.
		There's just like you could do the whole supplement thing and we'll take a cut of it and we'll make it look like Infowars is super profitable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've made my peace with it.
		I've made my peace with like he's never going to face consequences for this and that's just how we live.
		Like I once I moved past the like, maybe, nope, it's not going to happen.
		Let it go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the best way to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that the best you can do is descriptively understand what's happening and be like, look at this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You guys all did a great job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And hope that something happens eventually.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hope everybody involved feels very proud of themselves.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what do you think when you see a turtle?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god, I want to live with it and become best friends with it and then shrink down and build a little house on the back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think about Dana Carvey's movie, Master of Disguise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's another one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When he goes to the Turtle Club.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mitch McConnell, of course.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex sees determination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to go back a few photos.
		The one where Trump looks like a turtle and he's got his bottom lip up over his mouth.
		Go back to the beginning of the photos.
		That's the face I make when I'm really pissed off and determined.
		That face right there.
		If you see me coming at you with that face, you know you got a problem.
		And that is the face of total determination.
		I've seen a lot of other men in really serious situations.
		That's the face you make.
		Yeah, that face right there, that's the real face of determination.
		Anytime you get in a fight with somebody and they got that look on their face, that means somebody switched on for war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they've channeled the turtle, the inner turtle.
		And it's terrifying.
		That's what real fear and determination looks like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I get it.
		Fine.
		Which turtle were you?
		Which teenage mutant ninja turtle were you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was Donatello.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You were Donatello.
		Obviously.
		I went back and forth between Donatello and Michelangelo.
		That's the story of my life.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what a person with bipolar is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's about his, that's about his, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe that's Raphael, then, because he was more chaotic, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		But I don't think I was, I don't think I was angry in the right way to identify with Raphael.
		You know, I was angry at all kinds of other stuff, whereas Raphael's anger was, you know, kind of justified in a lot of different ways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He didn't ask to be an anthropomorphic turtle that can do ninjutsu.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was no Leonardo.
		I know that.
		Sure.
		I've never been to Leonardo.
		Sure.
		And I, I, you know, everyone, when you're a kid, you want to be Michelangelo because he's cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I wasn't Michelangelo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I pulled off Michelangelo.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You surfer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So look, those are friendly turtles, as long as you're a good guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were tubular.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		If you come bearing pizza, you have nothing to worry about.
		But the turtle face, if you see it on a human, you're in trouble.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex can't find this picture, or at least the staff can.
		And it really pisses Alex off.
		And maybe he starts making a turtle face at the staff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Great.
		And go back to the earlier photo, too.
		It's even better when we're making him the turtle face.
unidentified		Even better.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I say that because you got the turtle with the lower jaw kind of up over it.
		Just roll through that again.
		I've got to see it.
		Roll through the same images you were just showing.
		It comes up right after this.
		This is the face right here coming up.
		You're on X.
		Yeah, maybe you're doing different images.
		Yeah, it's the one, it's the straight shot of him.
		It's the classic shot.
		The one that everybody has.
		Well, we'll get it.
		We'll have it.
		But I digress here, ladies and gentlemen.
		This is such a historic time, and what unfolded here is so historic.
		And the globalists are never going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Out of said shell.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Later in the show, I'll find the image I want.
		We're going to just probably leave it up the entire show.
		I think I'll just leave the image up.
		I have to go to rebroadcast.
		I have to get the club.
		I have to get the image.
		I'm not mad.
		I'm just going to have to have it now.
		I didn't used to be OCD, but at 50, I'm so OCD now about the classic fight-fight-fight with them all around him and him up out of them.
		And he's like this.
		That's the one.
		We've kind of got the shot, but we don't have the shot here on fun right now.
		Yeah, that's it.
		That's the shot right there.
		That right there is determination.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the turtle face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		There's only one shot of determination on a turtle's face.
		I ever saw.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Secrets of the Ewes.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember the Snapping Turtle?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Now, on the second go-round, the first time you meet them, sure, they're little babies.
		And Shredder is pissed off of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're babies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But then, you know, he raises them.
unidentified		I also like that Shredder kind of has an emotional attachment to them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't, they don't really explore that.
		Like, Shredder's got a softer side.
		But then, once he realized, once the snapping turtle realizes that the donuts were a ruse, that's intense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's determination.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's determination.
		Go back and watch that movie.
		Eventually, he'll take a donut and they'll find out that it's drugged, and then that turtle is pissed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what Trump looked like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love the idea that Alex is just so pissed they can't find the right picture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's only one explanation for that, I think, and that is like something about that image makes Alex feel a certain way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And once he thinks about feeling that way, he can't move on until he feels that way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he can't summon feelings through memory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it might be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because all of his feelings are fake.
		He requires an external device to make stimulus.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he actually has a pretty good idea, if that's the case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that he's going to get a tattoo of that turtle face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love that idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I might get it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like, I've never gotten a tattoo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I might get this gigantic across my back.
		Because I'm nothing against people with tattoos.
		I see a lot of cool ones, a lot of horrible ones.
		If I was in the military, I'd probably have some.
		But, you know, usually it was like you're a sailor, you're a Marines, why you've got one.
		It's kind of become such a fad.
		I was kind of like, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like your Popeye.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I don't know.
		When they bury me six feet under, I think I might want that on my back.
		I bet people are already getting it everywhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet they bury you face down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can't do that as a little tattoo.
		You can't put that on your arm.
		You can't put that on your chest.
		You can't put that on your ass like a tramp stamp.
		If you're going to do it, it's got to be like a prison tattoo all the way across the shoulders.
		You know, I'm really thinking about it because you got to back something like that.
		That is never going to go away.
		That is never going to be forgotten.
		That is over-the-top, powerful, instant, authentic, and real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		11 days after at this point, and most people have moved on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing: I was thinking about this, and you know, like last season of The Wire, everybody sort of fulfilling the roles of the generations before that.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nixon's tattoo on Roger's back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does feel appropriate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I suddenly had the image of a turtle tramp stamp, and I think now everybody is really thinking about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump turtle tramp stamp.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then you just, man, that would really fuck you up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I'm coming back from that one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'd look down and be like, no!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's on your back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You wouldn't really have to deal with it all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, okay, all right.
		Fair enough.
		I was thinking about if somebody else got it, and I discovered it too late.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would be quite a revelation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be a fucking day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be a day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Woof.
		So, look, it's all fun to talk about turtle faces, and Alex may be getting a tattoo.
		Sure.
		But unfortunately, we must dip back into Alex being pretty racist about Kamala Harris.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they're coronating like she's a queen.
		Kamala Harris outside of law.
		No one voted for her in the primary.
		She had 2% when she ran for vice president in the polls.
		She was super unpopular.
		I mean, the woman is a joke.
		And Kamala Harris is as black as I am.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that one before.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've had my DNA done.
		I don't have any African blood.
		I'd be proud of my debt.
		I got Native American.
		My dad's like 13%.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because you were so nice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I'm basically six point whatever.
		But I'm not Native American.
		I mean, Pocahontas, the senator, Elizabeth Warren, has none of it in her.
		She said she was.
		But I'm like 6 point whatever percent.
		No African.
		Zero.
		This woman, maybe her dad had 6% African.
		I mean, you take a look at him.
		I'd love to see her DNA test.
		In fact, people, she's running on that.
		She's black.
		And, you know, they said if you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black.
		I'm surprised Biden didn't say he was black.
		Joe Biden is a joke, and we know it.
		We got Dr. Stella Emmanuel, who grew up in Africa and is a great doctor and super smart and also a great pastor.
		You can look at her.
		She's a beautiful lady.
		She's 100% African.
		She's a black lady.
		I'm going to ask her when she's in here.
		Is Kamala Harris black?
		Stella?
		Dr. Stella, is she black?
		That's a black woman.
		This woman is not even a term my black buddies used growing up in Dallas about all the girls that were part, why they uh, yellowbone stuff like that.
		What was the other names?
		Uh, had a lot of names, but the point is is that Kamala Harris is not even a a yellowbone.
		Kamala Harris maximum, maximum is six percent black, holy shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean this is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is just uh beyond uh, any kind of lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not like gonna get in a plane or like a train or get in my car, but if he was in my physical space saying this, I have to fight him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like do you know what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like this is this definitely, it's definitely not something that you hear and it's like, ha ha, now let's argue because and I'm not saying you have to hit him or anything like that you can walk away.
		There is no rational response to this.
		That's you're, that's true, and you're trying to litigate uh, whether or not someone else is black enough.
		Nope um, I think that I think that you're already in territory where it's like there's no point.
		There's no point here.
		All we can do is just look at this and say, fuck you yep, this is racist garbage and it.
		That's where it's coming from inside you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah um yeah no, that's, that's exactly what i'm saying.
		Like that is, that is the ultimate, like here's a boundary we are with, there's no going back.
		Yeah, so i'll walk away, i'm fine, I don't live.
		I don't live in Austin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you want to talk like that to your friends I, I can't stop you, but stay away from me, you know, because if you say that in my space we got to go yeah, we got to go man it's, it's not a good sign, no of of like where we are um, but I think that when you mix this stuff because it is very clearly like, oh okay, Alex is mad, um about uh, a black person running for office yes, and so he's,
		he's lashing out in this way, but you still have to sort of root it in some sort of intellectualizing right.
		I mean, he should Just get up there and yell the N-word over and over and over again.
		He has to try and play some clips of her and be like, look at this idiot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he does, but she sounds smart.
unidentified		Alexandria Okasio-Cortez's new darling of the party.
		She officially has more Twitter followers than Nancy Pelosi.
		She's on 60 Minutes this weekend, proudly calling herself a radical.
		And she's promoting policies like saying that every single carbon emission in the country, every car, should be eliminated within the next 11 years, everything from a 70 to 80% tax rate.
		Do you agree that she could possibly, in this ideology of the socialist left, could splinter your party?
kamala harris ▲ ● ▼		No, you know, I think that she is challenging the status quo.
		I think that's fantastic.
		I think that, you know, I used to teach before, especially before in the last few years.
		And the thing that I always loved about teaching was when you teach, it requires you to defend the premise.
		And it requires you to re-examine the premise and question: is it still relevant?
		Does it have impact?
		Does it have meaning?
		And I think that she is introducing bold ideas that should be discussed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Buses go here, buses go there.
		That's what buses do.
		That's an actual quote.
		Here she is saying she wants to restrict your meat consumption.
		Whatever the new world order wants, she's going to put it out.
		She's a perfect puppet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His characterization of this bus meme that he saw is the way that he's able to try and make her sound dumb.
		But what he just played was an incredibly thoughtful, intelligent.
		It's an articulation of how important it is to have ideas that challenge your own ideas and how that can keep you growing.
		Sure.
		Basically.
		It's a clip that's very appealing as a public figure, I think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, it is essentially a reasonable response to like, hey, listen, the fires of youth, great.
		You know, turn into the tempered steel of adulthood.
		That's what we're talking about.
		But you know what?
		The kids win in the end, so I might as well, you know, adapt.
		I get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this is a clip that Alex is choosing to play in order to paint Kamala Harris in a way of being stupid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's smarter than almost anything that's been played on his show ever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm confused.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anything that he says.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm super confused as to what the bus meme is that would make sense of what he of trying to play this clip as like a negative.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he just doesn't have that much ammunition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he's just going to play something that sounds smart and insist that it's dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who found this and then just told Alexander?
		It does feel like a chase.
		It does feel like a chase clip being like, see, she likes young people.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we get some callers from Twitter and from the phones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex takes both.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one person believes that there was a conspiracy with Trump's assassination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
unidentified		I also wanted to say something else about the shooter.
		I believe just like that movie shooter, actually, that guy was set up and he didn't fire one shot.
		I think I couldn't put when the guy, the officer went up to check on him, that was a bad actor.
		And he was making sure to come back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me stop you.
		Saturday, 11 days ago, I thought of that.
		Mark Wahlberg, great movie, The Shooter, how they try to set him up as a shooter.
		That's what I thought.
		And Dude's put it together right now.
		We have all the videos where the guy's wearing pants and the guy that shoots wearing shorts.
		We're getting together right now.
		This is a big deal.
		This is not adding up.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		I think the kid got set up.
		They pumped him up in some sort of secret thing.
		They said, you got to be protecting the president.
		You know what it means?
		He wasn't even looking towards the president.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They wouldn't have that banana even looking towards him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was just set up, man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what I believe to be true.
		Well, definitely it's a stand down and nobody's buying it.
		That's the good news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's great news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, yeah, I guess because there's maybe a picture of someone wearing pants and then shorts, the Mark Wahlberg movie The Shooter is predictive programming for this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, this did get me thinking, right, about all the presidents who've been assassinated, which is like five?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to say it's like five.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you count.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sounds about right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you count the flu after not healing, right?
		Something like that.
		All the successful ones, close range.
		Close range, right?
		That's why the JFK assassination is so conspiracy theoryable is because it was a distance, right?
		So here's the idea.
		If you are just an amateur asshole, close up.
		You can't fire from distance.
		If you fire from distance, that's professional shot, right?
		So in this regard, almost the best evidence that it's not a conspiracy is the distance means he missed.
		If it was like an actual thing, how could you miss?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's impossible to put on pants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I actually do buy that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I don't even know what evidence Alex is pointing to here with shorts and pants, but like my mind just hears that it's like, yeah, you could have shorts on under your pants.
		So you could put on, it doesn't seem like a persuasive piece of evidence about anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even if like every element of what he's saying is like, this doesn't rise to the level of the compelling anomaly that he's got here.
		But yeah, so anyway, it's the Mark Wahlberg movie.
		That's what we're living through.
		We're living through this 2007 movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I find fascinating.
		Here's the other thing that I find fascinating.
		All right.
		So you hear reports Googling JFK assassination.
		Sure.
		Again, another sign that they're amateur.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The news that came out, the shooter head googled how far was Oswald.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
		A sign of an amateur, right?
		Because if you're a historian, the one thing you know about all of the failed assassination attempts towards presidents, all of them, all of the failed ones, too hot.
		Too hot.
		Guns jammed.
		Slippery sweat.
		All of them failed for that reason almost entirely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the trick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what did he do?
		If he had just learned about American history, he doesn't need to have a Google search results.
		He just knows that it's too hot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alaska.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got to find pros go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Find a cool, temperate zone, my man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't go to the trap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we've got, like I said, we've got these callers.
		Share these Twitter people.
		And if we've got a Twitter space, that means it's time for Chase.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a little worried that Chase Geyser is getting overexposed on our show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does feel like we're giving him a lot more attention than maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we've just had so many dark spots and the news is so fast that it just feels like this is a respite.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, there's always something nice about bonding.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's something compelling about seeing bonding.
		Yeah.
		And I think that that's really what this, the itch that this scratch is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		20 seconds to break.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How epic is this town to be alive?
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's so epic.
		And I got a feeling that we're going to see Kamala Harris as president of the United States before the election.
		And I don't think she's going to be the candidate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so the 25th Amendment Biden.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or he dies of natural causes, or God forbid, you know, they kill him.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, no violence wanted to come to him, but this is, we're going to, this is, it hasn't even begun to be crazy yet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		I agree with you.
		Crazy town has just begun, and we were supposed to be off the air by now, but we're still here, buddy.
		All right.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When they go out to break.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've made peace.
		I am beyond.
		This is a thing.
		You know, I'm a generally emotionally reactive fella.
		And this one, I've just let go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of, you know, I think that a chill response is kind of understandable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because, I mean, I hate them.
		I hate what they stand for.
		I think their political ideas are trash.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there is a feeling of actual, like, they like each other that you don't get necessarily from a lot of these other Alex and Owen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whenever they would be in studio together, there's a tension.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a hostility.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's definitely true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's a dynamic of his son.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Owen's doing it a lot of the time, especially early on, Owen's doing an impression of Alex, trying to be the next Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is how you make your dad disappointed in you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So that never really felt that great.
		Nope.
		This just feels like humans bonding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I meant specifically them gloat laughing over the fact that they're still on air.
		Oh.
		That, again, I've let that go.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it is nice that they're kind of, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think heavy air quotes on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is a really good point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not like he's on network TV and he hasn't gotten canceled despite the odds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		True, true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it's never good to hear a gloat laugh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's never good to hear a gloat laugh, especially in this circumstance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they go out to break with their gloat laugh.
		Sure.
		And then they come back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I want to play the trailer from Mark Wahlberg, who we know is a patriot conservative.
		I don't care that he's a great actor or like his movies, but we know he's a patriot.
		People have been around him is what he does.
		But the shooter is such an important movie to watch.
		And I'm glad that the callers brought that up.
		And we'll go to a bunch of spaces, speakers here in a moment.
		But man, this movie is all you need to know about how they set stuff up.
		Here it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so apparently Mark Wahlberg is a patriot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's a pitch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Being John Malkovich.
		All right.
		Exactly like that.
		But being Mark Wahlberg, and you immediately like time warp into 9-11, and he's on one of the flights, right?
		Then becomes a hero for all of this stuff and a patriot.
		And then that's your movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's Mark Wahlberg's life like if Wahlberg is never happens because it's, uh, I would, I would take this at a completely different direction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say that Mark Wahlberg goes back in time and decides not to commit that hate crime.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then we flash forward to the president, and Alex doesn't say this shit about it being a great patriot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think maybe that's more what Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you might win this one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he gets a guy on Twitter who's coming in, has a really interesting question about Trump choosing JD Vance as his running mate.
dennis hendrickson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm having trouble really wrapping my head around.
		Could very well be that this was a deep state plot, but it's also, I'm thinking that it could be just blatant incompetence by the Secret Service and that this has been going on for a long time and that they've been Swiss cheese for a while and finally this guy got through the hole.
		And the thing that I guess I'm confused on and haven't really heard many people give an explanation for is why Trump, of all people that he could have picked for a VP, decides to go with an anti-Trumper in JD Vance who has a background with Silicon Valley and Peter Thiel and Palantir with government contracts and the like.
		And then he goes and disavows all of the Trump loyalists from 2016 that were part of the Heritage Foundation in Project 2025.
		So I'm concerned because the rhetoric is definitely not the same with the RNC this year than it was in 2016 with Trump.
		And I'm afraid that he's getting sort of enveloped in the deep state itself right now with even Tucker Carlson.
		Tucker Carlson texted, this was in, I think it was an AP article.
		He had texted during the Dominion Voting Systems trial through Discovery how much of a Trump hater he was there too.
		And now all of a sudden these guys are Trump fans, and it seems to me that it's more because it's politically convenient for them now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's also text messages where he says, I love Trump, but I hate him.
		I mean, that's like I've said to a personal text, God, Trump, he makes me really mad when he was pushing warp speed or whatever.
		And Tucker's addressed that.
		JD Vance, six, seven, eight years ago, did criticize Trump, but since then it's made all the right moves.
		That's Trump's decision.
		They don't like JD Vance's choice.
		All we've got's Trump right now.
		But I think what you bring up are legitimate issues, but I don't think there's any way you stage a shooting where it shoots through his ear.
		I mean, you're not, you don't think that was a stage shooting, do you?
dennis hendrickson ▲ ● ▼		No, I do not think that was a stage shooting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little bit of a strange response because this guy's bringing up some pretty decent criticisms within the conspiracy world.
		He has the right position.
		You should be distrustful of this move by Trump.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it should be disillusioning a little bit to the fantasy narratives that are floating and animate Alex's entire purpose.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, that's why Alex doesn't engage with it.
		It's because this guy is, you know, in the same way that people are, when David Icke is like, you shouldn't like Elon Musk.
		That's the correct conspiracy position.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This guy is right that you should be turning on Trump right about now.
		Yeah.
		It's going to be a little bit late after the election.
		You need to make your move now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Here's what I say Trump should do.
		All right.
		Because the Vance pick was a bad pick, but that's not the point.
		The point is any pick would have been a bad pick.
		Trump is the reality TV show president.
		You have a reality TV show to pick the vice president.
		What are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would have been interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We have six candidates.
		They compete in a bunch of physical challenges.
		Who can steal the most from babies?
		All of these things that are normal for Republican politicians.
		Then they pick the final one.
		Wouldn't be Vance.
		Well, here's not very quick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have often said that reality television, and especially like Survivor, is quickly deteriorating to the point where one of the challenges should be, give me your blood.
		Give me a cup of your blood.
		I don't care how you do it.
		Here's a cup.
unidentified		Give it to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Give me your blood.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so that would be, like, I would love to see the RNC at the end of it.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He just has Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan scratch holes in their body trying to squeeze out three ounces of blood first.
		You're my VP.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I say.
		I say, I love your idea, but let's make it.
		Because listen, that's just too violent to show on TV.
		All right.
		We have a blood drive-off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They both have the IVs hooked up there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They got to squeeze trying who gets the blood out fast enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That just comes down to like hydration, though, doesn't it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I genuinely do not have any clue what that comes down to at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably not just hydration.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That, I think, gets away from what I'm talking about, about the darkness and ugliness of reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get what you're saying.
		I get you saying.
		I'm trying to punch it up for the middle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's hear some of Tucker's texts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So on January 4th, 2021, just two days before Trump's fans stormed the Capitol, Tucker texted, quote, we are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights.
		I truly can't wait.
		I hate him passionately.
		I can't handle much more of this.
		After January 6th, Tucker said to his producer of Trump, quote, he's a demonic force, a destroyer, but he's not going to destroy us.
		I've been thinking about this every day for four years.
		In another text, he discussed the Trump presidency saying, quote, we're all pretending we've got a lot to show for it because admitting what a disaster it's been is too tough to digest.
		But come on, there isn't really an upside to Trump.
		In a text to his producer just after the 2020 election, Tucker said of Trump's business ventures, quote, all of them fail.
		What he's good at is destroying things.
		He's the undisputed world champion of that.
		So anyway, I think he's a cynical fuck who knows exactly what he's doing, and now his brand is pivoted into this weird, there's a spiritual battle going on.
		I see demons kind of nonsense.
		He knows behind all of that, what he's doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I doubt there's really going to be another football league to compete with the NFL, specifically because of Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So there you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
		That was in another one of Tucker's texts.
		Complaining about competition with the NFL.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they shouldn't have a monopoly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to do?
		So that guy didn't think that the Trump assassination was staged.
		Sure.
		But that was the way that Alex distracted away from his point about J.D. Van.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very good points about J.D. Vane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then we get another caller who does think that the whole thing was staged.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Give it to me.
unidentified		Let's talk about Donald Trump, and let's talk about this shooting.
		First of all, you've got to know history of Donald Trump, and this goes all the way back into the 90s.
		So you know Donald Trump for being rich.
		You know him for being an elite.
		You know him for being in real estate.
		You know him for being a reality TV star.
		You know him for doing WWE wrestling.
		You know him for fake news.
		You know him by their fruits.
		After the shooting happened, who became his spokesperson?
		Hulk Hogan on TV.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		I've been in movies.
		People say I'm fake because I was in a movie and played a part.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you're fake for that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll come back to you, but this is just BS.
		They tried to kill him legitimately.
		Hulk Hogan's a great guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hulk Hogan's a good guy.
		Also, flash back in time and see if Hulk Hogan stops himself from talking about how mad he would be if his daughter dated a black guy.
		And see if Alex still thinks he's a great dude.
		Yeah.
		Probably not.
		I think maybe there's a trend between some of this stuff.
		But I think that it is interesting that Alex responds with like almost he's offended by the suggestion that something could be fake.
		The cornerstone of his career is saying that things were fake for way less evidence than what this guy is saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, I appreciate just the really staggering list of large-scale lies that you can put together for Trump.
		And I can think of like 50 more that maybe I would put higher.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True, true.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I still don't think any of it rationally justifies thinking that it was a faked assassination attempt.
		No, no, no, no.
		But you can understand when you're in the world of Alex and everything is faked and everything is a conspiracy around every corner.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That list of lies and shit should make Alex be like, this would be perfect to be faked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's not because he's strategic about this shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's all just a narrative crutch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it does like, okay.
		So, I mean, the guy's point is fairly simple and straightforward, and I agree with it, right?
		So if you have the most honest politician in the world that gets shot, you're like, well, that probably wasn't staged.
		But if you have the most dishonest politician in the world, you're like, big old piece of shit.
		It's more likely that this is staged than the most honest person in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Big old piece of shit liar who's known for working in the WWE as a Hall of Famer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does feel as though that would be more ripe for the possibility, if not the suspicion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Has been stunned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's gotten the Stone Cold Stunner.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I agree that this could be more likely to be a reasonable supposition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Still incorrect, but it is far more reasonable than otherwise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it makes it silly for this to be Alex's response.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he's Alex fucking Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, please.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he would fake something so important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I agree with Alex at the end of the day that it is absurd to think that you would fake this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a bad idea to fake it because those are real bullets.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And your brain is there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was killed.
		Yeah.
		It's just absolutely bizarre to imagine that they would do that.
		But it's not fair for Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just because I agree with the conclusion that it's silly to think this is faked, it's offensive that Alex's response is that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I do appreciate the idea of faking a presidential assassination.
		Right.
		These guys are like, we're going to fake this, but we're going to use real everything.
		And let's.
unidentified		Look, there's a 25-50% chance he goes.
unidentified		That's so bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got Tucker's texts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also, let's make sure that the person that we blame this on changes pants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It is funny the idea of staging a presidential assassination that could go either way and you're happy.
		Like it's a win-win assassination.
		Oh, boy.
		What a weird world we've chosen to live in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex tries to respond to this caller.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think it's, I don't think it's good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump's been involved in movies, TV shows, everywhere, did some professional wrestling stuff.
		We know when we watch him with Vince McMahon doing a joke piece that's separate.
		It's like when the media says, Jones has been in a few movies.
		He's an actor.
		They play that game.
		When I'm an actor in a movie, you know I'm an actor in a movie.
		When I'm on this show, it's me.
		So the idea that Trump has done some wrestling, and now that Hulk Hogan, who called into the show 10 years ago, and I know as a listener, is now saying, screw this.
		This is wrong with Seven America.
		It's like this weird thing.
		Alex Jones is in the same city as Stratford, some CIA propaganda firm.
		And they go, well, that's it.
		He's in the town of 2 million.
		He works for Stratford.
		It's mentally retarded.
		And I'm 100% real.
		I'm up here calling what's going on.
		I'm defending the Republic.
		But people do this thing.
		Like, oh, it's all staged.
		Well, then you're staged.
		In fact, I'll go to Garrett in a minute.
		But Garrett, I say you're CIA.
		I say everybody's bad.
		Nobody's good.
		You do.
		You work for Hulk Hogan.
		That is what you say.
		Same mindset.
		I know Trump.
		He's real.
		He's not perfect.
		He got shot.
		The deep state has done all these indictments and all these attacks and done all these things.
		So professional wrestling is a super popular thing.
		It's Americana.
		And so is UFC.
		Trump's associated with it all.
		I mean, hell, I'm associated with it because I know Joe Rogan forever.
		I'm into UFC things you name it.
		So my issue here is they don't fake somebody getting shot in the ear.
		You can see it.
		Real people died there.
		And so it's just, to me, preposterous when this is going down and the deep state's definitely against Trump to then say it's staged.
		So explain to me.
		You mentioned a bunch of stuff.
		Oh, he knows Hulk Hogan and he was in movies.
		So that means he's whatever.
		Explain it to me.
		What are you saying Trump did?
		Who is he working for?
		Do we vote for Joe Biden or do we vote for Kamala Harris?
		What are you saying?
unidentified		I say you vote for none of the above and you vote for Jesus Christ and you start telling all the info warriors out there to repent from idol worship and to vote for Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ only because he's the only one that's going to save us from any of this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you can actor?
unidentified		Yes.
		I don't think you're an actor all the time.
		I think you might say have some of the truth, but you might not be telling everybody the whole truth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not God.
		I appreciate your call.
		So I don't know the whole truth.
		But I'll assure you, son, that I'm telling what I believe to be the truth.
		That is my North Star.
		That is what I want to hit.
		God, these people don't believe there's good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't believe that there's any good in the universe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's the problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is weird because every time they tell me that they don't believe in good, I bring up Trump, Vince McMahon, Hulk Hogan, Dana White.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I just bring up people who are billionaires or at least extremely wealthy and are racists and have, at the very least, violently assaulted women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Strange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, weird how those are your buds who are good in this world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's something interesting going on here with Alex's response to this guy, his response, and then the way Alex just sort of shuts down, kind of.
		And that is that Alex's response is not good.
		It's just kind of like, hey, you know, when something's fake or whatever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Helpful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then this guy, he tries to sort of sell this guy out by being like, hey, what should we do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Vote for Biden?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he gives the answer that no, we should vote for Jesus Christ.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is the exact answer Alex should be giving.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, yeah, there's no argument for Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We need to get away from idol worship.
		Okay, that's right.
		Alex can't argue with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Alex is just kind of like, okay, let's make this personal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Am I fake?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		Son.
		First, I'm going to dominionize you and insult you to your face because you're my fan.
		Second, I am going to invalidate everything I have ever believed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The point that you're making, I cannot argue with within my sort of cosmology.
		My structure.
		And so I will insult you and make this personal as if you're attacking me.
		I guess, whatever.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When Alex was making a fair amount of money about Sandy Hook and really making a lot of people's lives pretty miserable, one of the reasons that he claimed he did that is because the details didn't match up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I thought it was because he was drunk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a sort of a real-world piece of shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in his mind, there were these details.
		There were these anomalies that didn't match up.
		And so you would think when you're discussing with a caller about the Trump assassination attempt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Details that don't match up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Details would be so important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like eight bullets fired.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everything is about these details.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you should have jumped to conclusions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		You know, when Ray was talking about it, he was referring to a car.
		He wasn't referring to a van.
		So it'd be interesting.
		Like, did they ever go to Home Depot and get the cams to see?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		But here's what's happening.
		Here's what's happening.
		They want us to get all caught up in the minutia.
		They wanted to remove Trump.
		They had CIA people on TV saying they're going to kill him.
		And Chuck Neaschumer and all the rest of them.
		And then you've got all the lawfare and all the criminal charges and all the fake trials and trying to take him out the ballot, them saying we're going to kill him.
		And then this happens and there's a stand down.
		They did it.
		98% of the evidence points towards that.
		You'd have to override your common sense.
		And so now members of Congress and others are saying, we know you tried to kill him.
		That freaks the deep state out.
		If they know people aren't buying their story, they won't try it again.
		That's why I said 11 days ago and I said again today and yesterday, the day before, the day before that, we've got to point out we don't buy any of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so this is really more, I think, an accurate articulation of what Alex does, which is like, jump to a conclusion.
		The details are for rationalizing later.
		But what he used to do is pretend that it was detail forward.
		He used to pretend that he's sniffing out these conspiracies and getting to the bottom of it and presenting you the evidence.
		And now he's just like, come on.
		It's so obvious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but at the beginning of those events, he always has somebody who is like the water or who can test the waters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's always got somebody coming in who's like a Wolfgang Halbig or something, who he can point to as like, well, I can ask questions and I think you're probably right, but you're the one who's saying 100% that this is the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But realistically, that's not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, the day of the shooting, in terms of Sandy Hook, was speculating about stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before he had Steve Pieczenik or Wolfgang Halbig or any of these people on, even James Tracy, before that, he was talking about the video of Robbie Parker during a press conference and speculating about how he looked like an actor.
		Like, I think that we have a perception that he uses a lot of other people for cover.
		And I think Alex would wish that that was more consistent in his life.
		But I think he does a lot of it himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I mean cover so much as like that kind of soft launch of the narrative to his audience.
		So with Alex, like I remember, of course, on the day of, he was like, ah, this is probably saved.
		But then on the next day, he was like, eh, maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
		And then he's got people who are going to back him up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To be tools.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the narrative development.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not that I, yeah, I agree with you on the same day, but like the narrative development, I don't feel like he's got anymore because he doesn't have the roster of bullshitters that he used to have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He used to have a fucking heavy hitters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Larry Nichols is dead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve Pieczenik has fallen out of grace.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is ripe for a Pachenek come here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got Roger, but he's like, he kind of has his own agenda.
		He's not as fun and silly.
		He doesn't take as big of swings.
		This doesn't involve the Vatican, so Leo Zagami is irrelevant.
		You got Twitter people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sucks.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think, I mean, you got Chase.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to get?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Krassensteins back to be like, oh, I think it was staged.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it doesn't hit as hard.
		So Alex takes a call from a guy who claims that he ran a tabletop exercise for the Biden inauguration for the government.
		I don't believe him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like with a bunch of his friends as elves?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's, well, I hope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that'd be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The way he's presenting it is like, I have, I basically ran like the Secret Service war games.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And my mom brought apple slices.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't really believe him, so I'm going to go ahead and skip that clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we have more important business at hand.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that Chase wants to follow up with Alex about whether or not he called in the Angel of Death.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Even a small light.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God almighty, I'm so real, folks.
		I love freedom.
		I'm willing to die for it.
		So these callers, I love them to death.
		They call in, thinking everything's some big setup.
		Evil ain't that powerful.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Even a small light eradicates all darkness.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stop giving in to the evil's idea that it's in charge.
		God is in charge.
		It pisses me off.
		People don't understand how much good there is in this country.
		But we don't have the high ground.
		But we're going to get control of the government.
		And I pray for our enemies.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm praying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm an eventful person, but it's got to be done.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Could you pray for the angel of death?
		Because some people did die recently.
		I was worried you first started doing that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I talked to my pastors.
		That's Old Testament.
		I shouldn't do it.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Didn't do it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But God, you know something?
		I've only prayed five or six times and asked for something.
		So I always prayed, God tell me what to do.
		Every time I prayed, God gave it to me like that.
		Wow.
		I told the story, people wouldn't believe it.
		It's real.
		No, I don't take it for granted.
		It's not me, but I got a direct line to God.
		So is a rare person, too, though.
		It's a big secret.
		We'll be right back.
		We'll be right back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a big secret.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what it is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Chase is the only person who knows how to ride Alex's energy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a scene partner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Chase is a good scene partner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the only person who I've ever seen who could co-host a show with Alex.
		That's it.
		That's what it is.
		He knows.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's a theater kid.
		He's doing the theater kid shit.
		He's just like, yeah, man.
		Wow.
		Holy shit.
		He's yes-ending.
		He's doing the whole thing.
		Yeah.
		I know this kid has taken improv classes for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, some people died recently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did you actually call it the angels?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Would you like to confess that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a 100% premise.
		He even laughed at it.
		He was making fun of Alex.
		He was making fun of Alex.
		To his face.
		Also, amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is something that in general InfoWars world would have just been some dumb bullshit that Alex said and no one would ever bring back up that, hey, wait, the Angel of Death exists in our continuity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Chase is like, we got to follow up on this.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've seen some people die recently.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you do it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, it's interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you pray them dead?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting because it offers two possibilities.
		Sure.
		One, Alex can do what he did do and say like, no, that's too serious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's too serious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We don't want to open Pandora's box on this one and give me death laser powers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Once you open the death note, there's no going back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or, I mean, Chase would have no idea what Alex would want to do with the story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It opens up the possibility for Alex to be like, yes, I did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did take some people out, and I will not comment any further.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, that's like, what do you, what do you say if you have confessed to holy murder?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bring me to court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I dare you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but I mean, we've got the courts of heaven.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're available.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the angel of death is cool in the courts of heaven.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that is a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is only morally wrong based on your weird human understanding, your terrestrial understanding.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Try and take me to court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll call the angel of death.
unidentified		Wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm confused as to how my understanding is confusing whenever, like, it's Alex whose desire is being executed by a ghastly apparition of death.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The ghastly apparition of death would only do it if it was in line with a larger purpose that Alex is in sync with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what if he doesn't ask?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then the Angel of Death doesn't do it?
unidentified		It's entirely dependent on whether or not Alex kind of feels like it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I like it.
		I like this religion.
		I'm joining it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all very dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the rest of this show.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, Alex cleared the deck of all the guests.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except for he has a guest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has Stella Emmanuel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got, oh, no, no, to do what he said she was going to do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't believe that comes up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But she wants, she's on to do a fucking infomercial.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		I wanted to get her fellow Texan up here to Austin from outside Houston.
		She's going to host the fourth hour today, but I wanted to get her on.
		Plus, she's a great sponsor.
		So before we get into all the news, the analysis with Dr. Stella Emmanuel, medical doctor, I just want to upfront plug her products because everybody needs them on the shelf.
		Plus, they support the broadcast of the very best out there.
		And whether it's prescriptions you can call, they've got those people can do all that.
		Or whether it is high-quality supplements, they've got it.
		So you didn't come here to do this, but up front, you're keeping the show on air.
		Plus, she's your great products people need.
		Incredible products people need to buy from you.
		They need to support you.
		Whether it's telemedicine or whether it's supplements, you've got it all at the website.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we got another sponsor for Alex, apparently, Stella Emmanuel's Weird Pill Operation.
		So she's obviously one of the real crass COVID promoters who rose to prominence pushing hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, while also saying that gay people are possessed by demons and vaginal pain is often caused by having sex with ghosts.
		She's on the show because she's one of the only folks left who will be a sponsor on Infowars.
		So Alex is doing an infomercial with her and has given her the fourth hour of the show to promote her shit and preach.
		It's pretty funny, though.
		Like if you go to her site, you'll find that a shockingly high number of her products have names that are a play on COVID.
		Like her electrolyte drink, Covalite, or her hair loss supplement, Cova Hairvitz, or her sleep aid, Covasleep, or her thyroid product, Covadyne.
		It's almost like as if she knows exactly where her bread is buttered and what she's doing.
		Anyway, a lot of these con artists try and cash in a bit on the hysteria that they themselves create, but I don't know if I've encountered a line of products that are so blunt in their presentation as those that Stella Emmanuel is selling.
		It's wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I am imagining even the most psychopathic advertising exec is like, hey, listen, I love branding, but we got to pull it back just a hair.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're selling a Gatorade called Covalite.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do branding all the time.
		I love it.
		It means nothing, but this is too much, even for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little desperate.
		Yeah.
		So we're not going to listen to a tone of her because, whatever, I don't really care.
		I mean, it's paid programming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Essentially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's a couple.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like swords.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Coach McGurk buying swords.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like spaghetti.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's spaghetti time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there, but there are a couple moments that I think are of note.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And here's one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's be clear.
		Since I said it, I want the crew to find out.
		I showed this one earlier.
		It came out two months ago.
		AP Reuters Everywhere.
		Federal government was the headline.
		Federal government paid CVS Walgreens not to prescribe ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.
		They paid them $2 billion up front were ready, knowing it was the answer to blocking.
		That's why they wouldn't fulfill it.
		But you did.
		Think of the premeditated evil.
dr stella immanuel ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's great evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's not true.
		Pharmacies were paid quite a bit in terms of COVID relief funding from the government.
		That is true.
		But at no point were they specifically instructed to not fill prescriptions for these medications.
		This is an intentional misrepresentation of a federal court ruling that pharmacists could use discretion in filling prescriptions that come in.
		This was due to a case that involved a couple in Minnesota who got a prescription from a doctor in Missouri and were subsequently trying to get this prescription filled at a Walmart and then a Hive, and they were both denied.
		This is a kind of a decision that's a bit dicey because on the one hand, it does make sense that a pharmacist shouldn't be forced to provide something that they believe could be a bad treatment based on their medical expertise and available evidence.
		However, it's pretty obvious how this kind of decision could be used to justify all kinds of other pharmaceutical prohibitions, like access to things like reproductive health care.
		It's already the case that many pharmacies, even ones run by big chains like Walgreens, have refused to fill prescriptions for birth control or emergency contraceptions.
		So this is something that cuts both directions.
		It's a messy question, and there's a part of me that says that they should just let these people fill their prescriptions for these medications that aren't going to work, you know, whatever.
		But then there's another side of this that knows that if all of these people have carte blanche to buy up all these drugs, it could put a crunch on the supplies of them for people who actually need them for the things that they work for.
		It's very messy.
		I don't know.
		There's an interesting question that I want to be like, hey, shut it down.
		Stop this bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's another end of it that hurts people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I guess like ultimately, it's just we need to get advertising and shit like that out of politics.
		You know what I'm saying?
		Like we wouldn't have ivermectin, hydrochloroquine prescriptions that people were fraudulent, or not fraudulently, but like ineffectually trying to fulfill if it wasn't for a group of people who like turned it into a political movement to do that.
		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's mostly people who are looking at profits with supplement businesses, much like people who have COVA product hormones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's that.
		It's abortion for politics.
		It's people who are turning reproductive care into a political thing for the pharmacy.
		Like all of this stuff, we shouldn't even be here with a law that's like, hey, you guys can choose.
		You know?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, probably not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's something that I was thinking about while I was listening to Stello Emanuel that I think is pretty interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that, like, I don't agree with the end result, which is telling people that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are going to be good treatments and preventatives for COVID.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't take this seriously and that kind of shit.
		I think that's bad.
		But what she's actually doing is there is a difficulty, and that is that some prescriptions won't fill your out-of-state drug mill prescriptions that you're giving, you're selling to people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so you've created a network of pharmacies that you know will fulfill these prescriptions.
		And I think that should birth control be completely unavailable to people and other reproductive health products and stuff like that.
		Were someone to do this with birth control?
		I don't think that I would be opposed to it.
		I don't think underlying the method, the sort of structure of this I don't have a problem with.
		I think there's a profiteering motive that I'm somewhat opposed to.
		And I think that the thing, the problem that they're solving is a scam.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, essentially, your point is that when the law bans something that people want bad enough, they really just create a market.
		And people are going to fill that market because there's a lot of money.
		And we live in a capitalist country, so that's what you're supposed to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when there isn't actually a ban, you introduce a space where someone like this can come in easily enough and create the perception that there's a ban and then create this market.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it is, it's a little bit like Alex.
		Like, as much as you want to blame people, it's like there was a job opening.
		It's not like people didn't want this and they just made it whole cloth.
		Like, they stepped into a place where people already wanted what they were doing.
		You know, it's why did people want the hydro?
		You know what I'm saying?
		Like, what that's because you can't stop her because if it wasn't, because if it wasn't her, it'd be somebody else.
		And if it's banned in America.
		Yeah.
		And if it's banned in America, there'll be somebody from Mexico or somebody from Canada.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's just not how it works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In essence, what this is, is kind of a natural evolution of the unregulated supplement market and how sort of destructive that is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that because of the merging of sort of ascendant anti-vax voices, the real shock to the system that COVID represented.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that those things combining with supplement marketing businesses and that profit motive, it feels like this is almost a natural evolution of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, you have people who lie, people who want to be lied to, a massive emergency that makes everybody panic.
		And then, you know, a market for whatever you want that you can exploit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't even think, you know, people are almost not even involved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like just market forces are making all of this happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, some people are definitely making a lot of money.
unidentified		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
		I'm sure they're making a lot of money.
		But if it weren't them, it would be somebody else making a lot of money.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that doesn't take away culpability, but it does sort of help identify with the real problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, at the same time, like she just gives some advice that is like really responsible.
dr stella immanuel ▲ ● ▼		So we put together a package, seven antibiotics you will need in an emergency.
dr stella immanuel ▲ ● ▼		If you need to travel abroad, if you're locked down, so you can get that and be able to have this in your medicine cabinet, not for you to use.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is a no-brainer.
		It supports the broadcast, but it's secondary.
		Everybody should stockpile this.
		It lasts for years.
		It's a win-win.
		And you've got the best prices ready to go.
		People need to keep us on air and get ready and have this.
dr stella immanuel ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you one thing else.
		If you have, there are people that got their ivermectin stock up two years ago and they're sending us messages that, oh, it's expired.
		Don't worry about it.
		They did a study in the military and they found out that medicines are usually good five to seven years after the expression date on the bottle.
		So do not throw away your medicines.
		Kind of keep it because you know, keep your pills just at first.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're maximum, but over like five years, maybe you lose 10% effect.
dr stella immanuel ▲ ● ▼		It's still good, but it's still very good.
		So, don't throw away your medicines.
		It works, it's gonna continue to work for years after the expiration date.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is super dangerous advice for Stella to be giving out because she's a doctor and she's being presented as someone giving medical advice.
		It is true enough that some medications just lose effectiveness after their expiration date, but some of them can really hurt you because they degrade into toxic compounds over time.
		You don't really know which one poses a danger.
		So, when she says it's usually okay, that's really bad.
		But it's generally best to err on the side of expiration dates, just in case.
		There are some things that can cause serious damage after they've expired, but antibiotics are actually one of the things that just become less effective, and that's actually why they're dangerous.
		Ineffective antibiotics are how you create antibiotic-resistant infections.
		So, what Stella is promoting here is seriously irresponsible messaging.
		I would not go with this.
		I would say you shouldn't behave this way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, these people, so many of them, obsessed with what they put into their body, obsessed with what the government might be putting in their body, but they're willing to just trust medications.
		I don't trust medications because I don't understand them on a fundamental level.
		Like, I get that there are the chemicals to a certain gram level of what it is you're putting inside of there, right?
		I still don't really understand the rest of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't understand it fully, but you trust it in as much as under the care of a doctor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They seem extremely confident.
		I have pattern recognition, it's worked for other people, I'm going to roll with it, but I'm not going to just be like, eh, I think I got it from here.
		That's not how that works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, chemicals, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do think it's interesting that you have like, I won't drink tap water, but expired medications are totally fine.
unidentified		Are you shitting me?
unidentified		Okay, that's crazy chemicals, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And some of it, like, you don't understand it fully at all.
		Like, what happens when a chemical is past its expiration date?
		Yeah, does it become something else?
		Is there an inherent vulnerability that this substance has to bacteria over time?
		Totally.
		What is the reason for this particular thing's expiration date?
		I just think that this is reckless as hell.
		Yeah.
		And you can tell that it is motivated by profit motivation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The way that they're like, yeah, you got the best prices.
		So stockpile all these drugs that I'm going to write you a prescription for out of state and then tell you a pharmacy that you can go get it from.
		I think it's a little bit reckless.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		It's a little bit like when a cop is like, oh, if fentanyl touches your skin, you'll explode.
		Ah, I definitely didn't do some fentanyl.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex has told us that a fake hand is going to poison Trump with fentanyl.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that'd be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I don't know.
		I mean, I think that it's somewhat in line with, you know, end times-y stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, you've got a survival food bucket.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't really give a shit about the expiration date of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this kind of vibe fits.
		And it all makes sense, but it is also like, you're a doctor.
		This should be, you shouldn't be behaving like this in order to sell prescriptions for antibiotics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is always fun whenever we have so many like post-apocalyptic visions of the future and all these people are talking about prep and all that shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And like, in my head, I'm like, listen, if civilization collapses and they stop making my meds, we don't have to worry about much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'll be gone in a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'll be taken care of.
unidentified		Or we'll all be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing that I'm trying the distinction that I'm trying to get to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Matt Bracken is somebody that Alex has on who's like a doomsday prepper-ish type of weirdo, loves guns and predicts a race war.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he's saying expired antibiotics are fine when you're in your hole or whatever, I don't really, I mean, I think it's probably not a great message, but it makes sense from him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's supposed to be a doctor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so it hits different a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a greater irresponsibility to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is.
		There is.
		I think there's a part of that of like, you know, they're able to take advantage of the fact that maybe people trust doctors a little too much.
		You know, so there's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an abuse of authority.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, people trust authority too much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe.
		Anyway, we come to the end of this, and the rest of this is just Ella Emmanuel.
		And Alex gives her the fourth hour, and not great.
		But yeah, this is weird.
		A little portent of racism to come about Harris.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a barrage of racism that goes back to the classics almost.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, literally, I don't think I've heard a lot of that since pre-Civil War literature.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it also, it's shocking in that sense.
		But it also, I do think that it kind of indicates a lack of a lot of footing.
		Sure.
		I think that Alex may have an over-reliance on racism and tropes that will go in that direction.
		I don't think he has a good firm leg to stand on in terms of how to approach the potential of a Harris candidacy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you've just described a portent even worse than I could have imagined, which is eventually they're all going to figure out that they really don't have much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's just going to be non-stop racism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that there might be.
		We'll see.
		Anyway, we'll have another episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, you made me feel bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, that's what the show does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, what are you going to do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And DB Does KnowledgeRight.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, we're back.
		But until then, I'm Neo.
		Leo.
		I'm DZX Clark.
		I'm the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified		Yeah, and now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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