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July 10, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
58:30
#942: July 7, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in to find Alex complaining about people who have Lamborghinis, bragging about praying a lot, and buddying up with the Heritage Foundation.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
18:15
d
dan friesen
22:59
j
jordan holmes
14:22
Appearances
Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding me.
unidentified
I love your room.
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is I've been listening to a little bit more music in my day-to-day.
And I find that generally I'll listen to more music when I'm feeling better, and who knows if it's a chicken or the egg situation.
Sure, sure.
But typically, you're listening to more music.
That means less of the time is being spent with Alex and horrible shit in your ears.
jordan holmes
Definitely.
dan friesen
So that has a positive effect on mood.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And generally, I'll listen to music when I'm doing some sort of exercising.
And so if I'm listening to more music, that means there's more exercising going on.
Generally, I'm going to be feeling a little bit better.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Anyway.
dan friesen
My point is, I listen to a little Alanis Morissette.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I listen to Jagged Little Pill.
jordan holmes
Sure.
All-time classic.
dan friesen
It is great.
It's a strong album.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
No.
dan friesen
I'm not here to shit on Alanis Morissette or her classic album, Jagged Little Pill.
I'm here to say that ironic isn't that bad.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Do you mean as far as the way people make fun of it for not actually being directly ironic 100% of the time lyric-wise?
dan friesen
Yes.
I think that that became a punchline for a lot of people of our general age range.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And it's led me to be averse to the song.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I understand.
dan friesen
It holds up.
It's a good song.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it is.
dan friesen
Everybody should calm down.
In the past.
jordan holmes
For a brief review of the past ten years of internet irony speak.
dan friesen
Yeah, people complaining.
jordan holmes
Hey, leave Alanis Morissette alone.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a fine song.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
dan friesen
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
I'm going to make it my bright spot now while it can be my bright spot, because in the future it's going to be my dark spot.
But next week, for the next couple of weeks, my wife is going to be gone on her annual artist retreat.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
This is her third year, I think, in a row doing it.
I'm happy.
It has made her a lot happier.
It's an enjoyable thing.
She loves her.
All of these things are fantastic.
And I'm super excited for her to enjoy that experience again.
Of course, she is leaving me alone to die.
Alone with the dogs.
Alone with the dogs.
dan friesen
That's a little something.
jordan holmes
No, it's great.
I'll do fine.
dan friesen
Hey, you know, it's a little bit difficult.
I'm sure you're going to miss her and all, but you've survived the last two.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's got to give you some hope.
jordan holmes
You know, I...
Actually, the thing that is weird is that whenever I'm gone, you know, when we were gone on tour, she can't take care of the dogs.
They have to go stay with our folks.
dan friesen
Because of her schedule.
jordan holmes
She just doesn't have the schedule for it.
But when she's gone, I get to stay at home with the dogs.
And I couldn't...
I would not be able to do it.
Without the dogs.
dan friesen
Yeah, that little bit of normalcy connects you.
jordan holmes
Huge routine.
Just that, like, hey, listen, whatever it is, at the end of the day, you've got to take care of these idiots.
So be safe as shit.
unidentified
They're important.
dan friesen
It's something external of yourself that you can focus on.
jordan holmes
Totally.
So in one way, once again, I have a privilege you will never enjoy.
dan friesen
Well, I hope you make it through, and I'll come watch tennis with you or something if you need.
jordan holmes
If you need.
unidentified
If you need.
jordan holmes
But only if I need.
It's got to be a need.
dan friesen
Dan will watch tennis with you.
It's behind emergency break glass.
jordan holmes
Emergency only.
unidentified
I got you.
I got you.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about June 7th, 2024.
That is Sunday's episode.
jordan holmes
July 7th.
dan friesen
Did I say June?
jordan holmes
You did say June.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
You still signed in 2023 on your chance.
dan friesen
July 7th.
Yep.
Alex is back.
From his little break, his little 4th of July breaky.
Sure.
And we'll check in and see how things are going.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
But before then, let's say hello to some new wonks.
So first, Rough Riders Anthem.
You're whack, you're twisted, you're girls a hoe, you're broke, Sandy Hook's real, and everybody knows.
Your old man says you're stupid.
You be like, so?
Have you ever read the WikiLeaks?
You gotta read them, bro.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Here's the problem.
There was an asterisk and it says Rough Riders Anthem.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And those aren't lyrics from the Rough Riders Anthem.
jordan holmes
No, I meant in the...
dan friesen
Y 'all gonna make me lose my mind.
That's up in here.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
That's where that is a parody of.
That's a different DMX song.
jordan holmes
Listen, I am copying and pasting from this person.
I don't edit.
I'm not here to censor people's belief systems over what DMX songs they're referencing.
dan friesen
Drop, shut them down, open up shop.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Oh, I know!
dan friesen
Oh.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That's a Rough Riders roll.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're going to have to edit.
dan friesen
Yep.
This is, I mean, I'm just, I don't know how we can...
jordan holmes
Let's restart the show.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know how we can live with this.
jordan holmes
We're going to get started in episode one.
dan friesen
Next, I'm slipping.
I'm falling.
I can't get up.
I'm slipping.
I'm falling.
I got to get up.
No, that's another DMX song.
Happy birthday, swingin'.
This automite is going to send you a bucket of poop.
Love, B. Thank you so much.
You're on Iowa Policy Walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Tori T. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And I finally listened to basically all of KF.
Shout out to Kleepus for the introduction.
Ungabunga, mate.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Kyle Paris' possum party.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Very obscure Chicago comedy reference.
jordan holmes
I have not heard that name in some time.
dan friesen
Or the thing that's being referenced.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was a time...
unidentified
Warp.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
So today, we got this Sunday episode, and Alex begins by just kind of killing some time.
He's in that little space where the show doesn't go out on the radio.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Radio's doing their own thing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so he's just kind of wasting time.
alex jones
I have returned after three days off with the family, recharged and ready for war.
It's an info war, and humanity is beginning to turn the tide.
But the globalists have a lot of tricks up their sleeves.
If we're aware of those tricks, we can beat them.
If we're not, they'll win, we'll lose, and hell on earth will follow.
It's Sunday, July 7th, 2024.
I'm your host, Alex Jones, broadcasting from deep in the heart of Texas, broadcasting worldwide.
Well, we're going to be here for four hours.
I'm here for two.
Chase Geiser is in for two after that.
And we have got a ton to cover.
He's got all the angles he wants to go at.
I've got the angles I'm about to go at.
He's in his office right through that wall right there, beavering away, getting ready, doing an amazing job like he did last Sunday.
What a great show he did.
I just want to point that out, people that had missed it.
I'm sure he'll do it again tonight.
So be sure and tune in after I leave here in about, well, exactly.
One hour and 55 minutes from now, 56 minutes from now.
Okay, we're going to go to break.
Let's make a quick five-minute segment, and then I go to break for a minute.
There's still a thing called radio stations for all the folks out there on X. Over 300 of them, and all the folks watching at Infowars.com forward slash show show a lot of stations join us at six afters, so we do this first five for people online, for everybody else on radio stations.
The show kicks off in T minus 60 seconds.
dan friesen
So none of this was actually even the show.
jordan holmes
What the fuck was that?
dan friesen
Chase Geiser is right over there.
He's going to do a great job tonight like he did last week.
unidentified
One, I'm still liking their developing relationships.
dan friesen
Yes, definitely.
I think the flattery has gotten him up the hierarchy above maybe even Owen.
Owen went to jail.
jordan holmes
Owen went to jail for InfoWars and Chase is just like, Alex, you're funny on Twitter.
dan friesen
You're pretty cool.
I believe your stories.
jordan holmes
Owen just knows there's too much bullshit.
That's really what it is at this point.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Chase is new.
He's great.
jordan holmes
He's got that fresh face.
dan friesen
Right over there behind that wall.
jordan holmes
He's beavering away.
dan friesen
Alex seems excited about the fact that Chase is working on something over there.
It's fun.
jordan holmes
It is great.
It is great.
dan friesen
So, we know from Ron Paul's brother...
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That three senators passed the Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes
Correct.
dan friesen
In 1913.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I don't know if I've actually heard Alex say that.
jordan holmes
Like, directly?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I bet he has.
jordan holmes
He's, like, agreed whenever it's been said.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes, totally.
dan friesen
But I'm not certain that I've ever really gotten a clean version of him saying it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Which is why we always talk about...
Yeah, which is why it always is attributed to Ron Paul's brother.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But now, we can change that.
alex jones
The world financial system is already collapsing.
Inflation is everywhere.
It's expanding radically.
And the globalists talked about this a lot.
We've read their quotes here, played the clips, but they were going to blame that on other things.
Blame it on war, racism, or global warming.
People don't buy that.
They are learning about the WUF, the IMF, the World Bank, the private Federal Reserve.
And as that process that's been going on since the Federal Reserve began, it was fought in Congress, barely snuck through on December 23rd, 1913.
No quorum call.
Three senators passed it.
Back then, there wasn't TV and radio.
The public didn't even know what was going on until months later.
And so now, all these decades and a century plus later, the learning curve is going straight up.
dan friesen
Yeah, learning is definitely going up.
Alex is very wrong here, but whatever.
It's fun.
Patriot lore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's the first time really, you know, outside of the...
The ultimate use of the Bart Simpson meme, you know, where everybody's like, say it, you know, where rich kid is like, ah, I did it by myself and my parents' money.
That literally was the most moment I've been to where I'm like, say it.
dan friesen
Say the three senators.
jordan holmes
Say the three things!
You got it!
dan friesen
Balloons fall.
Totally, yep.
It's unsatisfying, and I imagine that we might have heard him say it in the past, but I feel like I haven't.
It's strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, they're going to steal the election, Rams.
We all know that.
Yes.
2024.
jordan holmes
Obvious.
dan friesen
We've got to stop that steal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it's not stop the steal this time.
That's not the hashtag.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
The hashtag is now too big to rig.
They can't steal the election because Trump's going to have too big a landslide.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And I don't want to sit here and say they won't try to steal it.
They certainly will try.
But a landslide, they can't override.
It's too big.
That goes into the numbers.
And I've talked about that a million times.
I'm not going to repeat it.
Well, I guess I will.
They only got so many dead people and so many folks that have moved out of district with Zuckerberg's database to stop ballot boxes and fill out fake ballots, okay?
They only have so many bullets.
It's like a video game and the final boss takes 100 missiles to kill.
And you get to the final level and you got 80 missiles, they can't kill the boss.
They don't have enough bullets.
Okay?
And that's why people just turn out and show up and get people to vote.
Trump will win.
dan friesen
If you know that the boss takes 100 bullets, you wouldn't go into that boss encounter with 80 bullets.
jordan holmes
It would be a bad move.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'd be real dumb.
jordan holmes
It would be pretty dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'd have to be a really bad video game player or world controller.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to imagine a scenario where you know that because the thing is it's a computer game, it can't change.
There's no like, hey, maybe this time it'll choose different.
So I can't imagine a situation where you know that it's 100 and you're like, but maybe.
Right?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
In real life...
You can always, but maybe, who fucking knows what's gonna happen?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But a video game is not the same thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I also think it's really stupid as a plan for the evil people to have, which is like, look, we're gonna fucking put, we're gonna cheat hard.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But it might not be good enough.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
You know, like...
If these people come out and actually vote, we will have committed a gigantic crime.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And committed fraud on this election.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And we still, it won't work.
jordan holmes
No risk, no reward, my man.
dan friesen
Right.
Seems very stupid.
jordan holmes
Oh, if only there were 3,001 holes!
dan friesen
Exactly.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex has heard, and everyone's heard, that Trump has been talking about how, like, boy, I hope the economy crashes now as opposed to later when I'm in office.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All of this makes sense now.
dan friesen
Alex is trying to spin those comments a little bit.
alex jones
Trump has said this five times I know of in the last six months.
He said it again two weeks ago, and the media spun it and said, Trump hopes there's a financial collapse.
He didn't say that.
He said, I'm really worried about the economy and this bubble and the inflation, and I think we're going to have a major correction and serious collapse.
And if I'm handed the baton, like Herbert Hoover, and the first week I get into office in late January of 2025, five months from now, six months from now, I'm going to get the blame.
That's how the public works, and I won't be able to fix it.
If it collapses now, I'll be able to put policies in that will mitigate it, and he's always an optimist, and fix it.
You're not going to fix this.
You can, like, crash into the wall at 50 miles an hour or 100.
I mean, with Trump, it's 50 miles an hour.
With Biden, it's 150.
So, or use the plane landing.
You know, the engine's out, the plane's out of control.
Can the pilot land the plane?
You still get a few broken bones.
The landing gear breaks, slides into a building.
You know, maybe kills a few people, but most people survive.
Like, crash landing, survivable.
Let's not sit here and lie to people.
All right.
We're either going to crash straight into the ground and we explode into a total deep depression, crime wave, total insanity, food services breakdown, infrastructure disintegration.
Hell on earth.
The globalists are planning on that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Or we can come in.
With our nose up, wobble around them, landing gear breaks, and we slide into a hangar.
What?
And then the slides pop out on the side of the plane.
When we get off, the plane blows up.
I mean, that's the good scenario versus straight down on the ground.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
So...
Those are the discussions I have with my parents, my wife, my family around the dinner table.
dan friesen
Sounds fun.
Sounds like a good dinner table conversation.
jordan holmes
How was your day?
unidentified
Shut up!
jordan holmes
We're on a plane that's gonna explode!
dan friesen
And we gotta put our nose up and wobble.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yep, and then the plane's gonna blow up.
jordan holmes
The plane's gonna blow up!
That's the good scenario.
dan friesen
Added little detail, pretty unnecessary at the end of the metaphor.
jordan holmes
It does kind of feel like if that is your metaphor, then you have said that no matter what, the country's gonna explode.
It's just whether or not you can jump off the burning ship first?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It does feel like if the plane is the...
jordan holmes
Country.
dan friesen
Right.
Maybe it's not.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe it's the economy?
I don't know.
There's an inevitability to whatever the explosion is, though, right?
That's definitely true.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now, I am somebody who's listened to a lot of Alex in my life, and I seem to recall him getting really mad at Bill Maher talking about how he hopes the economy will collapse so Trump won't get in office.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Doesn't feel that different.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
I mean, it does feel, it's just like, hey, listen, let's all have a day where we sit down and we go, if it weren't for the financial collapse, America doesn't have a black president.
You know, like, let's all just sit down and have that conversation.
Because it was a massive collapse that changed the course of the entire race, you know?
An economic collapse can change the course of the race against the incumbent.
That makes sense!
I understand that you would prefer the president not want an economic collapse.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Me too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But it's unreasonable to think, hey, if there was an economic collapse, it wouldn't assist this guy, right?
dan friesen
It wouldn't assist the person in power who is trying to get his job back.
Yeah.
That's definitely true.
unidentified
It makes sense.
dan friesen
But it's a little bit gauche.
jordan holmes
It is gauche.
unidentified
I admit that.
dan friesen
To say so much.
jordan holmes
I admit.
It is gauche.
That's true.
dan friesen
So, there's people in Trump's orbit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who maybe are a little too fancy.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
They like Lamborghinis.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex brings that up a bunch of times.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
I'm just telling everybody that I would give it a 90% chance currently on our trajectory, and we don't talk about this lab for sure, that they're going to crash the economy when Trump gets in.
And you've heard him five times I know of in the last six months say they're going to do this.
So, yeah, Trump knows.
I know.
But I don't hear Republican politicos.
I mean, they're all measuring drapes at the White House.
They're all counting how much political insider control they can have.
They're all getting their lobbying groups tuned up and preparing to buy their yellow Lamborghinis.
I'm not mad to look like Lamborghinis.
My point is, you know, like the last guys in the Trump administration he brought in.
And they're just partying and, you know, Lamborghinis and all this shit.
And all I'm telling you is, I'm trying to stop...
Viggo Mortensen's the road-level stuff.
I'm trying to stop total collapse, war on the streets, cannibalism, mass death, burning cities, nuclear war.
Great.
If everything was fixed, everything's fine, and our kids aren't dying of fentanyl, and the borders aren't totally open, great.
Get yourself a red Ferrari.
Great.
If everything was fine, I had a ton of money.
Hell, I'd probably get one.
jordan holmes
You did.
alex jones
But I just can't...
It's...
Demonic.
dan friesen
It's demonic.
jordan holmes
It's demonic.
dan friesen
He got a tank.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say, I mean, metaphorically speaking, there is no more I got a Ferrari than I'm gonna get a tank.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I can pop out the top with a megaphone and yell at people on the streets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's more of the problem of people getting a Ferrari than the Ferrari version.
dan friesen
It's more Lamborghini than Lamborghini.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
For Alex's brand.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
Crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I find this to be empty.
But I'm glad he's trying to stop cannibalism.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I don't know if enough people are trying to stop cannibalism or if maybe he's trying too hard to stop cannibalism.
dan friesen
I definitely think the latter.
jordan holmes
You think so?
You think maybe we don't need to put as much effort towards the no cannibalism thing?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, obviously, if you want to get real abstract with it, I think food availability is a major problem in society that we should be doing more about.
jordan holmes
Fair.
I agree with that.
dan friesen
And so, if you want to say that...
Donating to a food bank is fighting cannibalism.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
Then, yes, people should be doing more to fight cannibalism.
jordan holmes
I'm listening.
dan friesen
But not in the way that Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
He's probably not doing as much to fight against cannibalism as maybe he believes.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
He's probably just yelling about the road.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
But he's also doing something else.
And he's praying a lot.
And also bragging about praying a lot.
jordan holmes
That's how God wanted it!
dan friesen
He loves that stuff.
alex jones
Because I'm telling you, folks, you don't need me to tell you.
But I'm telling you, we are in deep.
You know what?
We are in deep shit.
We better be praying to God morning, noon, and night.
I've prayed at least five times a day.
I got up at like 6 a.m.
My wife and two younger daughters got up.
I asked them to pray around the table.
And then I did it again.
I did it again.
And I went and had lunch with my parents.
I did it again.
And then when I got here to the office, I went in my office real fast to another prayer.
Right before I went on the air, I said another prayer.
And let me tell you, I usually say, you know, like a focus prayer once a day.
I'll probably pray three more times a day, folks, because I've got to get close to God.
I've got to get dialed in.
Because the fact that I'm not running off to some redoubt in Utah or Montana or Wyoming, and believe me, I've got folks that are ready to take us right now.
The fact that I'm not evacuating, every moment it's like, I'm not evacuating, I've got to save the ship.
dan friesen
This guy is fucking pious.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You can tell.
jordan holmes
I mean, if there's anything I know, it's that Jesus loved those Pharisees.
He was like, they tell you how great they are at loving God!
That's how you know!
dan friesen
It just, I mean, it comes through.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
You feel this, like...
jordan holmes
The pageantry of it, you know, the way that he has to do it in front of you loudly with a lot of set decoration to make sure you know how sincere he is.
dan friesen
Bumping those stats up.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Probably gonna do three more today.
jordan holmes
Absolutely, and he's definitely gonna...
Gotta let you know how many people are also praying so you can feel...
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
It's fun.
So, Alex does not want to be the best in the business.
jordan holmes
He doesn't.
dan friesen
And he doesn't have to be now.
jordan holmes
He just is.
dan friesen
Because there's, like, Tucker and shit.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
But the point is, is this stuff is going on.
It's been going on a long time.
This is as serious as a heart attack.
And I'm gonna get into the news right now.
It's just that people have to understand, folks, this is real.
There's all these thousands of channels and all this BS and all these lightweights.
And believe me, I don't want to be the heavyweight.
I don't want to be the most accurate guy.
I don't want to be the guy that's the main target.
I just want to stop these people.
And the good news is folks are getting how it works now.
And I see all these great talk show hosts and really smart people that finally aren't naive and finally aren't asleep who can see it even better than I can and articulate it better than I can.
Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan has a way of doing it.
The list goes on and on.
Jimmy Dore, Russell Brand.
I mean, the Heritage Foundation used to be established with Republican.
They sound just like me now.
jordan holmes
Hooray!
alex jones
And it's not about me.
It's about understanding the broadcast, my films, the books, the information.
It's dead on, folks.
We don't hit a hole-in-one every time, just most of the time.
But we get really close to the hole every time.
We were golfers.
If this show was a program, If this broadcast was a golfer, we would be shaking the ball on average with two shots every time.
jordan holmes
Okay?
alex jones
So, just understand that analogy, and that's why they don't like us, because I've got their number, I've got their name, I've got their ass.
dan friesen
Hey, Dum Dum, you're driving in the wrong direction.
You're driving away from the hole.
That's typically, you can't get there in two strokes.
Get the fuck off that golf metaphor.
jordan holmes
I want to fight the golf metaphor.
unidentified
I want to fight it.
jordan holmes
It's offensive.
It makes me so mad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, shut the fuck up with this I don't want to be the heavyweight.
God chose you to be the heavyweight.
jordan holmes
Literally.
dan friesen
When you were a child.
You were made in the womb to be a heavyweight.
jordan holmes
You have to believe that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Don't pretend this like, oh, thank God Jimmy Dore's come around.
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
You can't even think that!
You've got to think that at the very birth of this...
Goddamn universe, God was already like, well, I'm gonna need Alex.
dan friesen
Eventually, it's gonna come down to Alex.
jordan holmes
Eventually, it's gonna be Alex.
Hey, listen, I can see all these galaxies and supermassive black holes and all, 300 billion times the size of a sun, but I'm gonna need an Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, when God and the devil were tangling with each other at the beginning of time or whatever, there was just a little flash in God's mind of Alex with a hatchet on Christmas Eve.
jordan holmes
Yeah, did God dream about Alex first?
Yes.
dan friesen
You must have.
jordan holmes
You must have.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Makes sense to me.
dan friesen
Yep.
So anyway.
jordan holmes
How we doing?
Praying?
dan friesen
Yeah, praying a lot.
jordan holmes
All right, good.
dan friesen
Praying a lot.
So there's a clip that had been making the rounds a little bit, and Alex had posted this on Twitter, and it was of Trump at a golf course, and he's talking shit about how bad Biden is.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's like, Biden's already dropped out.
I think he's going to drop out.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit about this clip and how it's reverse psychology.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
Trump mocks Biden, encourages him to stay in race amid Democrat calls to drop out.
Now, Trump is using reverse psychology there.
Trump got caught last week.
In fact, I sent this to you guys, but I sent it like Friday, so it wasn't my list.
But Trump calls Biden an old, broken-down pile of crap.
And it's him on a golf cart.
Pull it up, because I didn't see it on my list.
I know I sent it.
I put it on my X account, Real Ox Jones.
Trump calls Biden a broken-down pile of crap.
Trump pulls up to give tips to the Greenskeepers because he doesn't just give tips to his caddy.
He just hands out $100 bills everywhere.
It's well known.
And he pulls out a stack of $100 and starts handing them out.
And that's the headline you search for.
Trump calls Biden a broken-down pile of crap and Kamala Harris an effing joke.
And the left said, oh, you should resign over this.
No, he'll say it publicly.
But the point is, there it is, Trump calls Biden broken down and claims he quit 2024 race in leaked video.
So, again, Trump thinks, and he says it in the video, he goes, Kamala is even easier to beat than Biden.
I hope Biden steps down.
He goes, in fact, I hear he is, which is the intel I told you last week, too.
We're getting some of the same intel.
But a lot of the campaign folks that I agree with, partially, I'm not saying they're totally right, have said he's overconfident about Kamala and how stupid she is, but she's a new face and has less baggage and can read off a teleprompter.
So Trump is using reverse psychology here.
Trump mocks Biden, encourages him to stay in the race amid Democrat calls to drop out.
Now he's doing that, so when the Democrats hear that he wants Biden, that's how Trump's brain works, they will then go get rid of Biden and he'll have Kamala.
dan friesen
Okay, so at the beginning of that clip, Alex was saying that he wanted Biden to stay in the race, but by the end, less than two minutes later, Alex was saying that Trump wanted Biden to step aside because Harris would be easier to run against, and maybe he's overconfident about this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is all apparently reverse psychology somehow, even though it's internally inconsistent and self-contradictory.
jordan holmes
That is an issue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Trump sounds pretty cool, giving out those $100 bills.
jordan holmes
All right.
See, here's the thing.
We need like a universal ombudsman for one purpose only.
dan friesen
Omnibudsman?
jordan holmes
Oh, omni-ombudsman.
I like it.
And that's just to be like, hey, everybody relax.
He was just talking shit.
Like, sometimes we just need somebody to be like, hey, everybody, this is not a thing.
He was just talking shit.
Relax.
I understand it makes you mad or whatever.
Don't care.
It's just talking shit.
Sometimes we talk shit.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
You mean the clip of Trump on the golf course?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't make it a thing.
Everybody is just talking shit.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
I think it would probably be best to come at it with that perspective.
But Alex can't.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It has to be some kind of a deep...
Judo move.
Trying to get a hip toss.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
It's like a voice of comfort to me now.
The idea of somebody just being like, hey, it's not a thing.
dan friesen
He's throwing a tantrum.
There's nothing here.
jordan holmes
Alex does not provide any comfort.
Ever!
dan friesen
Everything has deep meaning.
Like Trump giving out those hundred dollar bills.
jordan holmes
God, that should really get you.
dan friesen
The populist hero.
Very relatable champion of the people.
jordan holmes
I can't believe it.
That's our guy.
dan friesen
So, earlier in the episode, we heard Alex say, in his list of people who sound like him, you know, you had Tucker, you had Jimmy Dore, you had Russell Brand, you had Rogan.
He also said, the Heritage Foundation sounds like me.
jordan holmes
He did.
dan friesen
Now, this is interesting, because the Heritage Foundation, of course, has put out their plan, the Project 2025 business.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
They put that out a while ago, though.
It's not gotten a whole lot of play in terms of the mainstream, and Alex not really talking a whole ton about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then, recently, their head, the head of the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts, did an interview on the War Room, and he made some comments that may have pushed some stuff a little bit closer to the forefront.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
And Alex has to deal with this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He has to spin.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Now, this is a really important article I want to hit.
And I want people to give me attention on this, okay?
And I meant to play this last week.
I had it on Wednesday before I took off Fourth of July and the next day.
But the head of the Heritage Foundation, who used to be Milk Toast, but now people are so awake they can be hardcore, which is good.
We start to win.
We expect to see that.
Comes out and says, we're in the middle of the second American Revolution.
Hopefully the left isn't violent and it'll be...
It'll be bloodless.
So we're in the middle of the second American Revolution.
Hopefully the left won't be violent and it'll be peaceful.
The entire media then spun that.
It's typing Heritage Foundation head talks about revolution.
It's everywhere.
Because I go through these articles and wish, oh, I wish I had this clip.
I know I sent it Wednesday.
It's not the crew's fault.
I didn't send it again today.
But you all heard the clip.
It's from all over the news.
I just love to show you something.
I'm not like the media, the corporate media, the enemy of the people that just says, Alex Jones says, you know, kill all the Mexicans.
The ADL did 10 years ago, and I threatened to sue them they retracted it.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex always plays the clips, you know, he gives you the proof.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
dan friesen
So this clip that Alex is talking about is from the War Room on July 2nd, and Bannon has a fill-in host who's there.
Maybe he was busy.
So in that interview, this guy, the guy at the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts, he spoke quite candidly about how aggressively he believes that his Christian morality should be imposed on society by law and that they were in the process of working towards that in what he called the Second American Revolution.
He didn't say that things will only get violent if the left gets violent.
She said, quote, "We're in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be." This is very clear in its messaging: "Submit or we will use violence against you to impose Wow, but he didn't say it like that.
jordan holmes
He kind of did, though.
Well, but I mean, it's arguable.
dan friesen
This is not somebody saying that they're thrilled to be part of a peaceful period of reform.
This is a man saying that his vision of control will be put in place and you can choose to accept it or he will kill you.
He being...
A broad term.
Maybe not him personally.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, the idea of a person saying this is unfortunate and dangerous.
The idea of a person in charge of a group of people saying this is terrifying and dangerous.
unidentified
And then there's, uh, that's the president.
dan friesen
It's a lot.
It's a lot to take in.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
And Alex understands this dynamic and what this guy is saying fully well.
And he's doing his best to spin these comments because he supports the world that this dude wants to bring into being.
And he's a huge fan of thinly veiled violent threats.
And he understands.
I think that there's some reason that this needs to be addressed now because normal people and average voters have started to hear about this transitional plan.
That came out of the Project 2025 think tank part of the Heritage Foundation.
And I think that people are worried.
They're scared of how blunt a lot of this stuff is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
How fucked up a lot of it is.
jordan holmes
Well, I imagine that you're going along saying, I'm a Christian and I support Christian things and I support Christians.
And when they say Christian nation, I think what they mean is everybody believes and everybody shares.
And then, like, oh no!
I didn't believe any of that!
Oh no!
dan friesen
You hope that moment comes.
We have specific visions for a very controlled world that looks real bleak.
jordan holmes
Like, astonishingly bleak.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that because this is something that there's a growing awareness of, Alex understands that he needs to spin it, or else people are going to...
They run the risk of seeing this for what it is, which is a pretty rigid agenda being set that takes away a lot of people's freedoms, and if you fight against it, they are willing to use violence against you, and they're being very clear about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You know what's weird?
Here's a weird thing about this, right?
So, Alex is distancing, or Trump is distancing himself from...
dan friesen
He tried, and I think that's part of what forced Alex's hand about talking about this.
jordan holmes
So, the idea is distancing oneself from this project in order to keep from scaring the normies, right?
Right.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
The left is like, ha-ha, you can't distance yourself from this project.
You know what it is, right?
So what's in effect happening is- You know all of the people who wrote this?
Yeah, you are the people who wrote this.
They're your buddies.
unidentified
You hang.
jordan holmes
You gave them 100 at your golf club earlier.
dan friesen
Yeah, Ben Carson wrote a chapter of this.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
But yeah, so what's happening is, right?
The people pointing out that he's full of shit are comforting the far right who are worried when he distances himself, but Alex is comforting the normies who are pointing out that, who are like, oh, maybe Christian nationalism is bad.
dan friesen
Well, he's doing two things.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's part of what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's trying to sanitize things and be like, this is just...
Normal, middle-of-the-road stuff.
jordan holmes
You don't even know what you believe, idiots.
dan friesen
But then he's also being like, why the fuck is Trump against this?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He should not be distancing himself from this because it's just middle-of-the-road conservative stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is all exactly what we want.
And so he talks about that a little bit.
He's super into it, and he thinks that Trump has been tricked into denouncing it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So why is this story important?
Trump doesn't control or run a lot of stuff, obviously.
He's an executive.
He just gives out policy.
But there are people in his administration that started this 2025 project.
The Heritage Foundation is milquetoast Republicans.
They're good.
They're getting better.
jordan holmes
That's the scariest thing I've ever heard.
alex jones
Tucker Carlson is doing a great job.
These are good people, okay?
They're not even hardcore enough.
I'm not saying Tucker isn't.
I'm saying the Heritage Foundation is not.
Trump hears there's a firestorm on CNN, MSNBC, all the corporate channels, and he comes out Saturday, yesterday, and says, I don't know who the 2025 group is, and I'm not saying they're bad, but I don't endorse them and I don't run them.
So he hears heat on this Heritage Foundation full commitment with a Trump plan that I've read.
It's 90 pages long.
Most of it's excellent.
I mean, I would say it makes the Heritage Foundation go from like a C- to an A-plus in my view.
It's got a lot of great common sense ideas.
And the Heritage Foundation head says we're in the middle of the second American Revolution and it's going to be peaceful if the Democrats don't get violent.
Totally real comment.
Trump gets told by his advisors and people who really just don't want competition.
In his new White House, that goes on.
Oh, God, these are radical, sir.
You've got to come out and distance yourself.
No, do like TPUSA did and invite me to their big event.
That's what the public wants.
Stop letting the Democrats dictate your response.
Stop letting the Democrats...
Control what you say by, oh my god, it's totally evil.
Trump wants to support a controlled border.
dan friesen
Lean into extremism.
Who gives a shit what people call you?
They say that Nick Fuentes is a Nazi.
Make him Secretary of State.
jordan holmes
Who gives a shit?
I mean, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Is that the wrong move now?
dan friesen
I think so.
For everyone.
jordan holmes
For all of us, in the larger sense, yes.
I agree entirely.
dan friesen
I think that Alex has an assessment of the right wing that may or may not be correct, and that is that it doesn't matter anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The pretense we can sort of dispense with.
jordan holmes
Isn't that kind of what we're saying?
dan friesen
You're not going to pay a huge price for associating with me, the crazy person.
No.
And you're not going to...
Arguments that like, oh, your plan is terrifying and authoritarian in many ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not going to stick.
People aren't going to care.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The teams are already set.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what's fascinating, alright?
So the media doesn't know how to cover Grover Cleveland, okay?
There's no way for the media, because they don't have a comparison point for how to deal with this.
This motherfucker was already president.
What are you talking about?
Why are people talking about Trump?
Because he was already the president.
It's over.
Whatever he did is fine.
Already.
There's no going back.
dan friesen
Well, especially in terms of, like, public appeal.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, if you're not off the team already.
jordan holmes
We're here, so it's fine.
Whatever he does is fine because we're here.
Look at where we are.
dan friesen
That's what makes it that much crazier that he tried to distance himself.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I think that that's what Alex is kind of, what's beneath his, where he's coming from.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You're not going to lose the base, and this pushes things further in the directions that we want it to go.
Right.
So why are you...
Your Lamborghini crowd is talking you out of this.
jordan holmes
Who is everybody talking to at this point?
dan friesen
I don't know anymore.
jordan holmes
Who is anybody talking to?
Who is Trump talking to?
Who is Alex talking to?
Who are we talking to, man?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we haven't talked a ton about Project 2025 for a couple of reasons on this show.
The first is what we talked about on the last episode.
It has a creepy name that is so reminiscent of the conspiracy documents that Alex has built his career on making people afraid of that he's a little reluctant to look like his side has their own Agenda 21 or Agenda 2030.
He doesn't lean into talking about it that much.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Project End 25 is definitely not something we talk about.
dan friesen
The second is that the flashy name is a cover for the policies that are included within it.
And it's possible to oppose those policies.
too much time focusing on the name itself.
Sure.
unidentified
Which I think is the trap that Alex falls into with like, everything is Build Back Better.
dan friesen
Everything is Agenda 2030.
Right.
unidentified
And I think that you can end up in a place where you make a cartoon out of something.
dan friesen
And the name itself, Lends itself well to that.
So the first thing I would point out is that Alex is wrong, that Project 2025 put out a 90-page report.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They released a 922-page document titled Mandate for Leadership, and I'm pretty sure that Alex didn't read it all.
But he knows what, you know, he likes what it's about, or at least the vibe that he gets off of what he's heard people talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because, you know, you have people who are like, this is so extreme, this is so far right, these are horrible regressive policies.
Right.
Fuck, sounds good.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So it's an interesting thing, because that document is super blunt about policy goals, but it's also written like a whiny manifesto about how everything is too woke.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
It sets out regular conservative goals, like eliminating the Department of Education, doing away with school lunch programs, promoting the fossil fuel industry, attacking LGBTQ folks.
But it does so with a lot of the...
The sort of style of the times.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
It's a little trolly.
dan friesen
It feels like it at times, or at least whiny is definitely the way I would put it.
But it's awful.
It contains a lot of policies that would be destructive to various communities.
It's awful.
jordan holmes
Do you know what it is?
Here's what it is.
Evil, it should be Darth Vader.
But real evil?
That's fucking Anakin Skywalker.
That's a whiny little teenager going, I'm not as strong as I should be!
That's what evil looks like.
dan friesen
In a lot of ways.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And one of the things that I think is really interesting is that there's a bunch of stuff in there that Alex should be...
fucking opposed to.
jordan holmes
You think?
dan friesen
For instance, in the section that they have about the Department of Agriculture, they say that people complaining about GMOs are just using scare tactics and that, quote, the USDA should work with Congress to repeal the federal labeling law.
This is a direct contradiction to a major issue that Alex has championed for pretty much the entirety of his career.
And it's antithetical to him.
Yeah.
unidentified
And he doesn't really give a shit because a lot of the other stuff that actually matters to him, these social restrictions and attacks on immigrants, attacks on the LGBTQ community.
dan friesen
Those things are far more important for what his politics is.
jordan holmes
really about yeah um yeah so who cares yeah it is yeah well you know why put out 922 pages if you want people to read something right yeah yeah so So, Alex kind of spins his wheels a little bit here because the crew, who he's not mad at, doesn't have the clip of the Heritage Foundation guy.
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Stop letting them define the debate.
Did you guys find the Heritage Foundation clip?
Because you just go to X and you type in Heritage Foundation Revolution and it'll...
Right there.
It doesn't matter.
Everybody knows it was said.
I'm not going to obsess.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
So, that's, just add it in post.
We're going to upload this later to man, not video on X. Damn it, add it in post.
jordan holmes
We'll have that!
alex jones
So, that's where we are, is the institutional cowardice of the Republican Party.
That, oh my God, CNN attacked us.
Good.
You should do whatever they attack because that's what they fear.
They're attacking Trump all the time.
We run away from Trump.
They're attacking me all the time.
We run away from Alex Jones.
They're attacking Tucker Carlson all day.
We run away.
Oh God, we're being attacked by our enemies.
We better quit.
I mean, the milquetoast interview of the head of the Heritage Foundation is like, we're in a revolution.
We hope it's peaceful.
That's what America is, is a revolution.
That's in the Declaration of Independence.
That makes perfect and total sense.
I'm going to find the clip.
Watch this, ladies and gentlemen.
I will find the Heritage Foundation clip right now.
They start playing the Jeopardy music, ladies and gentlemen.
Do-do-do-do-do.
Do-do-do-do-do-do.
I'm just going to try.
I'm going to try Trump Revolution.
I bet we have the clip, ladies and gentlemen.
I know.
Wait 30 seconds.
You got it downloading it.
I got a rule here.
And this is kind of a thing.
If I send clips on a Thursday...
I need him on a Sunday.
And it's okay.
But I will always show you a clip.
I will not sit here and tell you there's a clip and not show you the clip.
If I tell you Fauci said, don't worry, we'll be able to get rid of Trump with a new pandemic that's going to hit imminently, I'm going to show you the clip.
dan friesen
No, you didn't.
You haven't shown that clip.
But also...
This logic of our enemies are attacking this group should we step aside and not stand by them would lead you to defend ISIS.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It would lead you to defend a whole lot of groups and things that I think you would be against.
jordan holmes
No, blindly defend based on who's attacking!
What are you talking about, Dan?
Don't think for yourself!
Be the tip of the spear that blindly attacks without thinking about who is attacking.
Because of who's attacking it.
dan friesen
It's a good policy.
jordan holmes
It makes sense.
dan friesen
So I think that, generally speaking, the more people hear about and the more people look at the specifics that are Being advocated in this Mandate for Leadership document, the more they are turned off by it.
jordan holmes
Usually.
dan friesen
And Alex has to present this as, like, middle-of-the-road conservative stuff that the globalists are all just worried about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't know.
I don't know how well that's going to work.
It's got a scary name.
His audience should be trained to be afraid of this.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
It is so much like...
Both sections of the audience should be against this.
You know, in terms of, like, for Alex and the Heritage Foundation, both sections of their audience, regular Christian conservative nonsense and super crazy Christian conservative nonsense, right?
You know, your two flavors.
Super crazy should be against Project 2025.
Evil sounding, right?
Regular ass.
They can't be in favor of, like, hey.
There's no extramarital sex ever.
Like, you just can't do it.
It's 25, if you will.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So they both are trying to message in weird ways.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is something that is disorienting a little bit.
But I think the one thing you can really take away from the way that Alex is talking about this is that he is...
Fully in support.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
He is a fan of these, or at least what he's heard about these policies.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And it's really essential to pretend that Trump didn't know at all and was tricked into being against it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's pretty key.
alex jones
And again, Trump's really smart.
He's got good instincts.
He doesn't understand Republican machinery.
They come to him with...
Put him in charge then!
And go, sir?
And I saw the articles, they used some aid that was part of it to confuse him, and they go, sir, his other aides that want all the power, they're going to lose the country doing that.
dan friesen
The Lamborghinis.
alex jones
Sir, there's an upstart group saying things about revolution and violence in your name.
You need to decry them.
Trump's like, who are they?
unidentified
Well, sir, they're bad people.
alex jones
Okay, let me put out a post on True Social.
jordan holmes
Where'd that five-year-old come from?
alex jones
I don't know who you are.
I'm not saying you're bad.
unidentified
I wish you luck, but I'm not with you.
alex jones
Now, they had come in and said, sir, the Heritage Foundation's totally behind you and has a big battle plan to defeat the globalists and take over the country.
We finally are winning.
The establishment Republicans are now joining us.
He'd go, well, that's great.
But instead, they don't want the Heritage Foundation involved in the second administration.
It all goes down to this chicken crap, chicken shit planet.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
BS, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Because I've read the 90-page report.
You know who bankrolls Tucker Carlson?
Those guys.
You think they woke up?
Think they're hardcore?
They've been waiting for us to get hardcore.
I'm not saying they're perfect by any minute.
But when I see Elon Musk joining us, I'm not going to go, oh God, screw Elon Musk.
He reached 200 million people a day plus.
He's calling for Fauci's arrest, for God's sakes.
He's calling for the Epstein list to be released.
Well, he's not been perfect in the past.
jordan holmes
Oh, shut up!
dan friesen
Shut up!
All of the people he looks up to sound really fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
They're the worst!
I can't imagine being like...
Seriously.
Remove all other political things.
Here's what Alex just said.
This man is incapable of understanding words.
If you frame something like this, he will believe this.
If you frame it differently, he will believe something differently.
Give him all the power in the world.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, he was the president on the Republican Party for four years.
A relative of his is in charge of the RNC.
He has no idea how the Republicans...
Public and machine works.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
How?
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
unidentified
How is this possible?
jordan holmes
We're not doing a new race where we don't know who these people are.
dan friesen
We have to do...
Alex has to do this stuff because it's kind of choppy water.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, the same way that he has to have been fooled about the vaccine.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Because it's inconvenient for Alex.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So this arch...
Super conservative plan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Trump has to have been fooled into being against it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because otherwise, does Trump not want these things?
Does Trump not want this Christian nationalist kind of vibe to rise?
Because if so, then we have to ask questions.
Is he really on our side?
jordan holmes
You know, let me actually, how about this?
How about I give this pitch to the far right?
Take the rest of the time off.
Take it off!
You can only harm yourselves.
Take it off!
You know what I'm saying?
No campaigning.
Everybody already knows you.
No, you don't need to...
Why is McDonald's advertising?
I know about the burger!
You know?
Just let it go.
Let them fight each other or whatever if that's what you want to do.
You're only going to do harm.
dan friesen
I feel like you shouldn't give advice that might help.
Because it does seem like the less people are aware of what...
People around Trump would want to do with power.
The less they know, the more likely they are to...
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Take a nap.
Take a nap, hit fast forward, and be like, hey, surprise, it's election day, guys.
You remember me?
I'm running for president.
That's it.
dan friesen
So the Heritage Foundation pays for Tucker.
So that's fun.
jordan holmes
That is fun.
dan friesen
I feel like Alex might...
He might think that was suspicious in other circumstances.
jordan holmes
You know, this independent media, it's just bought and paid for by this shadowy organization with a shadowy naming sounding plan like Project 2025.
What's wrong with that?
dan friesen
Who want a possibly bloodless revolution?
What are we doing?
It's not suspicious.
jordan holmes
This is very funny.
dan friesen
It's totally fine.
jordan holmes
This is fine.
dan friesen
And Alex is a little defensive about it.
unidentified
A little?
alex jones
And the articles didn't say Heritage Foundation, some unknown group called 2025.
It's just a giant report they put out and tens of millions they spent to do it and sponsor, you know, me going on Tucker Carlson's show.
That's who bankrolled that to get me out there.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
unidentified
No!
alex jones
They're not sponsoring me directly.
I'm saying it's sponsoring Tucker.
jordan holmes
Just think about this.
alex jones
Use your heads, people.
I see the Republican establishment cuts and runs and Trump is surrounded by these people.
Great job, Cruz.
Sorry I'm ranting.
dan friesen
Yeah, so these assholes paid for me to go to Tucker.
jordan holmes
What a great rant.
dan friesen
Wow.
That's really interesting.
jordan holmes
This is one of my favorites.
I think this is one of my favorites just because I can't imagine listening to this as being as a person who's an info warrior and being like...
Still going.
Still going strong, buddy.
You still got it.
dan friesen
If I was a fan and I was listening to this, I'd be like, that's suspicious.
jordan holmes
That is suspicious as fuck!
dan friesen
This all is coming off poorly.
jordan holmes
You are just now revealing that you have been bankrolled by the secret shadowy organization!
dan friesen
Well, not directly.
jordan holmes
But that's even worse!
dan friesen
Well, sure.
jordan holmes
It was secretly!
dan friesen
So Tucker gets money from the Heritage Foundation, which I don't know if that's actually that controversial.
I'm sure they give money to him.
At least that's secret.
jordan holmes
I bet they give everybody money for that.
dan friesen
I would have assumed they did.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Bernie probably gets money from the Heritage Foundation.
dan friesen
But the way that Alex is like, they fund him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
And then the second is, they bankrolled me going out to...
jordan holmes
You're joking!
dan friesen
You look bad, Alex.
jordan holmes
You know, it seems...
Now, let me throw this out there.
It's possible that they may be using money to influence how you think about things.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Just gonna throw that out there.
alex jones
Nah.
dan friesen
So anyway, I was interested in this because I do think that this whole thing with the mandate for leadership report out of the Project 2025 is...
Something that is being pushed to the forefront.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Whether it's because this guy said his revolution comments or whether it's because Trump had to distance himself from it.
One way or the other, Alex's hand is being forced.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's having to talk about it.
And I thought it would be more interesting.
Honestly, I thought his response would be more interesting.
But it's not really.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's just for it and wants to minimize how extreme it is.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The interesting thing is him talking about Tucker.
And talking about Tucker's financial business.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's more interesting to me.
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
He's just, you know, it is a cornucopia.
It never seems to pop out something that you go, really?
You can't seriously be saying that out loud, can you?
dan friesen
There's always a surprise.
So anyway, the rest of the episode is mostly him talking about that hurricane that was coming in on Texas.
jordan holmes
Weather weapons?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Eh.
That's where we are in life.
Whether it happens, eh, could be.
Who gives a shit?
dan friesen
He spends a while talking about it and the end result is, might be fake, might not.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
It struck me earlier with that clip where he's mad about not being able to find the Heritage Foundation quit.
And it's just like, so much of our show, I feel like...
Could be the leaked tape from any other show that goes around the internet.
Can you believe they said this off-air?
That's just our day.
That's just our day.
dan friesen
That Bill O 'Reilly clip where it's like, fuck it, we'll do it live!
That's Alex every day.
jordan holmes
That's the show.
unidentified
The show is that thing.
dan friesen
That's true.
But...
It's like if Bill O 'Reilly was doing that breakdown and also was like, God told me to do that.
jordan holmes
Why?
Oh, man.
It's just got to be more fun.
Without rules, it's just more fun.
dan friesen
It just is.
You know, not having a boss.
jordan holmes
It's the way to do it.
dan friesen
Seeming to be lawsuit-proof in some way.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
What a charmed life.
jordan holmes
This is a good system to be rich in.
I'm going to throw that out there.
dan friesen
So anyway, we will be back with another episode.
See where Alex is at.
Maybe he'll get more into the specifics about some of these nightmare policies that he supports.
Maybe not, but we'll find out later.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's nelltry.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX-Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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