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July 8, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#941: July 3, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan take in the day before Alex took off for the Fourth of July, and find him discussing his presidential predictions, the term "Ultragreen," and how other people's business is his business.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
14:46
d
dan friesen
23:49
j
jordan holmes
19:33
Appearances
Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
baldy in newyork
00:44
eben in california
00:33
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you, buddy.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot, Jordan?
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Fresca.
dan friesen
I found some Fresca.
I haven't had it in a long time.
Very refreshing.
jordan holmes
Is that a Fresca?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I used to drink a fair amount of Fresca.
Really?
And I just hadn't stumbled across it.
In the wild.
jordan holmes
It's kind of as if Fresca hit before the seltzer took flame, you know?
Fresca was there back in the beginning.
Fresca was like Zima before.
dan friesen
Fresca, you've always been there for me.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's the wine cooler of sodas.
unidentified
It's the wine cooler of sodas is exactly the way to describe it.
dan friesen
It's so strange, too, because it definitely says grapefruit citrus on it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I like Fresca, but I don't like grapefruits much.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's ironic.
Anyway.
Nice drink on a hot summer Chicago day.
How about you?
unidentified
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is I'm going to have to stick with Wimbledon.
unidentified
Wimbledon.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
You got there.
jordan holmes
Somewhere.
Yeah.
It's great.
dan friesen
How long is it?
jordan holmes
Two weeks.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All the majors are two weeks.
All the regular tournaments are about a week long, week and a half.
All the majors are two weeks.
dan friesen
That's a while, but then I guess, like, how could it not be?
You're really physically exerting yourself, and it's like you can't play matches back-to-back days.
jordan holmes
Yeah, nah, nah.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be a lot to ask of a person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Alkareff and Francis Tiafoe, two great players, played a great five-set match.
Four and a half hours log.
That's the idea of being like, hey, gotta go back tomorrow and do it.
That they can play like five hours and then give an interview after where they're not just going, is ridiculous.
They're all calm and composed.
Like, oh yeah, we played tennis for a million times.
dan friesen
It was a warm up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So how long after they play are they playing again if they're in this tournament?
How many days off do you get?
jordan holmes
They get a full day off.
dan friesen
Just one day off.
jordan holmes
One day off, usually.
Oof.
dan friesen
Oof, that's still tough.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, I wouldn't do it.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
You've got to play seven matches to win the whole thing in the course of two weeks.
Tough to do.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess you've got to give a little bit more respect.
Put a little more respect on the name of these Wimbledon winners.
They went through a lot.
jordan holmes
I want that frame.
Damn freezing.
dan friesen
Put some respect on the name of people.
jordan holmes
Put some respect on the name of people.
That's beautiful.
That's beautiful.
dan friesen
Oh, it turns out athletics are hard.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I am glad you're enjoying that.
jordan holmes
Have a great time.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over.
Might be a little bit on the shorter side.
A little on the brief side.
We're talking about July 3rd, 2024.
Alex was off on the 4th.
And so we just got this little piece of adventure to...
Chomp on.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It shows in a little bit of a holding pattern.
jordan holmes
Sure, it would have to be.
dan friesen
It makes sense.
I think the debate and how it went, there's a certain amount of excitement for Alex and the folks in his world, but it also threw a bit of a curveball for a lot of their narratives.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so I think that there's a bit of a struggle to try and figure out how to play that exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think it's funny.
I think the funniest thing that's going on right now that people aren't really capable of paying attention to is that this whole, like, the left and bricks that are fighting, all that stuff, is really messing up the right's ability to, like, message properly.
Because they're supposed to be like, hey, all these guys are evil, but now they're like, what are they fighting?
dan friesen
Yeah, they're supposed to be, like, demons.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're opposed to a battle between good and evil, and when one side is kind of...
Split a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It does kind of hurt your ability.
When there's forced nuance in the cartoon you're painting, it's tough.
jordan holmes
Forced, viciously loud nuance.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we'll get down to business on what Alex is up to, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, oh my god, Dan, please stop saying the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I hate it.
Parentheses, make sure Dan says it ends in a sparkly heart.
Thank you so much.
You're an out, Balzywonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
It ends in a sparkly heart, Dan.
dan friesen
I'll never say it again.
jordan holmes
So it was like a way of loving you.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It was not an attack on you personally.
dan friesen
I still feel attacked.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So next, Susan Ruth, the knowledge junkies of Melbourne.
Melbourne.
Spreading the hype as we were born to do.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, I've listened to 9-11 plus episodes.
What is this?
Is this 9-11 plus or 9-11 plus?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
dan friesen
Episodes, and you just happened to cover my 21st birthday, January 9th, 2008, so I thought I should maybe donate.
Thank you so much.
You're in Our Policy Wong.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Who do you think was drunk on this person's 21st birthday?
Alex or this person?
jordan holmes
That's a good question for all of us.
dan friesen
It's philosophical.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is kind of like a generalized human question.
dan friesen
And well done on finishing uni with a distinction, Smithy.
Now get a job, you wonk-shy bastard.
Love, Jamie.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Work shy.
jordan holmes
Work shy.
dan friesen
Yep, sorry.
Just read that.
And we got a text great in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Kay.
Happy anniversary of the love of my life.
Never stop calling our cat Alex Emery Jones when she's being wicked.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
eben in california
Force start.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Do you have a good fourth?
eben in california
Uh, sure.
dan friesen
Yeah?
jordan holmes
Eh.
We just, uh, no.
No, I hate the forest.
dan friesen
How are your dogs doing?
jordan holmes
Not good.
They hate the fireworks.
dan friesen
You get scared of those.
jordan holmes
You know, it is just like, it is a holiday that once we got dogs that don't like fireworks, you're like, I hate this holiday.
It takes two seconds.
dan friesen
When you're pretty young, explosions are great.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
And it's so fun to run around with a Roman candle or something.
Ah, it's on fire!
Yeah.
I walked outside, and I was like, Are my eyes going?
Because I looked up at a streetlight and it looked blurry.
And it's because there was so much smoke in the air.
jordan holmes
There was!
dan friesen
It was nuts!
jordan holmes
No, it was crazy how much, like, legitimate...
I mean, it felt like a war zone.
dan friesen
It felt like a hot box.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Yes!
It was crazy!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, good times.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Nobody slept well.
Nobody slept well on the 4th of July that night.
It was rough.
dan friesen
So here's Alex before.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The day before that.
He has a specific prediction to make, and we will see if he is correct.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we are live, broadcasting worldwide on this Wednesday, July 3rd.
2024 transmission, and all over the country, all over the world, humanity is declaring independence against the new world order.
All right, from all the public information and all of my sources, I'm going to make the prediction now that within two weeks, or by, let's say, the 20th of July, a little more than two weeks, that Biden will announce he's dropping out of the race.
I think that is a very, very safe bet.
In fact, it may even be sooner with 124 days, 12 hours, 52 minutes, 50 seconds until the most important election in world history.
dan friesen
We've got the counter down to the seconds.
Yeah, good times.
jordan holmes
You should have to put the...
If you say the second, you should have to put the counter up on the board.
dan friesen
He did.
He does.
jordan holmes
Oh, he does?
dan friesen
He flashes it up on screen, theoretically.
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Criticism retracted.
This is a smart man.
dan friesen
No, I think it's to midnight of election day.
Coming into election day.
unidentified
Perfect.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's pretty cool.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
I mean, we have now a very specific deadline prediction.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The 20th.
Biden will drop out by then.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
And if he doesn't, Alex will pretend he never said this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think predictions are probably a bad idea to make at this point in time.
dan friesen
But it's a perfect game for someone like Alex.
He's not going to be held to this.
And if he happens to end up being right, he gets to be like, God told me this in a vision.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
There's no loss.
Oh, here's what this feels like right now.
This moment, if this makes sense, right?
Somebody saw an experiment.
I think it was one of the Freakonomics guys, maybe.
I have no idea.
But it was like 50-50 shot.
One guy says, this stock will go up, this stock will go down.
Eventually, after 400 guys do this, there's one guy who's just kept getting right over and over and over again who's really rich.
But it's just a matter of somebody is going to be right.
Somebody's just, by statistical analysis, going to wind up being rich, even though they haven't actually done anything intelligent on their own at all.
Someone is going to look like a genius in two weeks, and they will have done nothing to earn it.
That's what this is going to be.
dan friesen
It does, and it also is like being a psychic on easy mode.
You know, it's like being a psychic with a game genie.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.
Put the code in and then you are a great psychic.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about what the plan originally was, and I don't think that this is correct, but it's a way to look at the world.
alex jones
Because, again, you're like, well, Alex, you and Roger told us three and a half years ago they'd get rid of Biden at the convention.
What is this part of the plan?
Well, that's because they knew that they forced him in as the most popular of a bunch of unpopular people.
And he was falling apart then.
So they rationalized it and said, well, we'll just replace him at the convention as a sneak attack on the public.
But Biden's been refusing to go and refusing to agree in the last year.
To help them vet who would be the next replacement and the next front person, the next figurehead of the oligarchy.
So now this thing is like a train wreck on steroids.
dan friesen
On steroids, no less.
jordan holmes
Can a train wreck get on steroids?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
If it's Thomas the Tank Engine.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Personified tank could take to your rights.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
That would cause havoc.
dan friesen
It would.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It would.
Yeah.
So, the original plan was to do a sneak attack on Biden at the convention.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Which sounds fun.
jordan holmes
That does sound fun.
dan friesen
From a narrative standpoint, I think Alex is having a lot of fun here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Someone was supposed to be possibly murdered at the debate.
So, I mean, where are we?
What are we doing?
jordan holmes
I do like the idea.
Here's the thing.
Here's what I do like about the whole sneak attack idea.
I want the sitting president and, like, nominee to be at the convention and then shocked that he's not going to be the president.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah, the open revolt.
jordan holmes
Him just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
This was a sneak attack?
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, man.
dan friesen
I got to tell you all about aliens.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
unidentified
What are we doing?
Real quick.
jordan holmes
Oh, they sneak attacked me!
I never saw it coming!
dan friesen
I also don't know how resisting plays into not being snuck attacked.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
It seems like you could probably still sneak attack someone if they were refusing to go along with it.
jordan holmes
It did feel like one of the reasons they did not sneak attack Biden was because Biden was not okay with it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which feels like you should have assumed that rather than asking him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, so Hillary may be in the mix.
jordan holmes
I love it.
I want more Hillary talk.
dan friesen
You presume that what would need to happen is within two weeks, Biden steps down.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Then Kamala Harris becomes president, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I guess she makes Hillary her vice president.
jordan holmes
Smart move.
dan friesen
Or maybe resigns herself.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
Leaves it all open.
jordan holmes
That's what you gotta do.
dan friesen
Then we're in wild times.
jordan holmes
Open season, yeah.
dan friesen
Or Biden steps down, Harris becomes president.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Decides to run.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, Hillary might be in the mix.
She looks like a fucking demon.
alex jones
I have to say, Whitmer's in the mix.
The super evil governor of Michigan.
But if you really look at this, they could pull anything.
And Hillary still has a lot of pull and is just arrogant enough to force herself onto the VP ticket.
And as Roger Stone said last night, no matter who the Democrat nominee is for president, if they take Hillary for VP and they were to get elected, they would need a food taster.
Boy, that is putting it lightly.
You look at photos of her, and she's got that Governor Whitmer demon look.
I mean, if you want to know, she looks like the devil in legend, doesn't she?
She's not just an incredibly evil person in her action.
That's a given.
The face is just...
She's even more evil-looking than...
Newsom makes the hair on the back of my neck crawl.
Stelter does that.
Janet Reno, I've confronted her in person.
Literally made my hair crawl.
And her eyes turn black right in front of me like a great white shark.
jordan holmes
I do believe that one.
unidentified
But...
alex jones
Look at that face if you're a TV viewer.
dan friesen
Yeah, look at Hillary.
Looks like a demon.
Look at that.
Like Stelter and Janet Reno.
jordan holmes
I like the ranking of evil via face.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I had never considered that.
I don't believe that in the Bible there's a, there's a like, ah, that's a face.
dan friesen
A hierarchy of evil face?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You've got Whitmer style evil on Hillary.
Janet Reno's eyes turned black like a great white shark in front of me.
jordan holmes
That's like a barbershop in hell has those hairstyles.
Oh, what kind of evil face are you?
I'll take an evil face number four.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretty dumb.
So you got Hillary, and if she slides into the VP slot, then she's going to kill Kamala Harris.
If they win.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So she can become president.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Now this is an interesting preoccupation because there's something that I noticed that goes throughout this episode.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is there's a lot of...
The stray talk about who Trump should pick as a VP.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there's a preoccupation with he needs a life insurance policy.
So he needs to get someone really crazy as his VP.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Someone who scares people just as much as him, or else they'll kill Trump in order to make the, like, Marco Rubio.
If he chooses Marco Rubio, he's dead in the water.
jordan holmes
I made the mistake of thinking that what they meant was like, oh, we gotta make sure that Trump is okay.
No.
It does make sense to them, though, right?
If their VP is just a regular guy, they'll kill Trump, and that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
My bad.
If he picks Rubio, then that means that Trump is controlled, and he's probably going to be killed in order to make Rubio the New World Order president.
But if he chooses someone like Vivek, then that's just as much of a risk.
jordan holmes
I'm going to say this right now.
I think, and I think this might be a controversial opinion.
If Hillary Clinton does murder somebody to try to become president, that would make me more likely to vote for her.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you talk to Larry Nichols, she's already killed like 700 people personally.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying!
That would be her being like, fuck it, I'm embracing the moment, you know?
dan friesen
Honestly, if you believe all of the stuff that these people say about her, it's nothing.
Killing one more person who happens to be the president, who cares?
jordan holmes
She's killed, like, God, or whatever.
She's killed somebody a step above the president, for sure.
dan friesen
So Alex has found some video of Hillary eating lunch.
jordan holmes
Is this current video or is this from the past?
dan friesen
Well, it's not actually what this video is, but Alex is having a little fun, doing some goofs.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, okay.
alex jones
So here is the shocking footage of her terrible manners and etiquette as Hillary Clinton has lunch yesterday.
unidentified
OK.
So here is the shocking footage of her terrible manners.
jordan holmes
This is a radio show, right?
dan friesen
It's good radio.
unidentified
Yep.
Woo!
alex jones
I'm not into macabre.
I showed that to you.
A Komodo dragon eating an injured baby goat.
Because they're raping and murdering children.
They're frying us with 5G.
They're killing us with GMO.
They're injecting us with poison shots.
They've killed 35 million people.
And the death in these hospitals from the shots goes on for weeks in many cases as organs liquefy and is a thousand times worse than that baby goat being eaten on the Galapagos Islands.
By a Komodo dragon, you hear it screaming and yelling in the stomach of the animal.
I'm sorry to show something so ugly.
That's why I said viewer discretion is advised.
But I'm more sorry not to get irritated.
jordan holmes
Did he say that?
dan friesen
Yeah, he did earlier.
I didn't play the whole preamble, but he did say viewer discretion advised while he was pretending that it was going to be a video of Hillary eating lunch.
He can't even have fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not a good fun way of doing it.
That's not how fun works.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It went on too long.
dan friesen
Right.
It's way too long of a video for the punch that he's trying to make about Hillary.
And then, as soon as it's over, he's like, this is why this is actually profound.
jordan holmes
Yep, he has to justify it.
dan friesen
Just trying to throw some shots at Hillary.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, that's not...
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
It takes what?
Max five seconds to throw a good shot of the Komodo dragon eating a baby goat screaming.
You go, ha ha, Hillary Clinton.
unidentified
Boom.
jordan holmes
Next joke.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That fast.
It's just someone doesn't want to have fun.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or like some sort of, okay, I would be willing to accept...
Beauty and the Beast style curse.
Alright?
So Alex is nine or whatever.
Somebody comes to the door and is like, oh, can you help me?
And he kicks him in the face.
And then they're like, ha ha ha, I'm a witch.
You'll never have fun for the rest of your life.
Right?
That makes sense.
alex jones
Be my guest.
dan friesen
Be my guest.
jordan holmes
If we're going to live where we live, there is definitely a rose that is dead for a long time now.
And Alex will never have fun.
dan friesen
Is Rob Du Lumiere?
jordan holmes
He is a devil with the brush.
dan friesen
So, you know, I don't know if you've heard about Dr. Jones Naturals.
jordan holmes
I have not.
Is it related to Infowars in any way?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
dan friesen
Totally separate business.
unidentified
Sweet.
jordan holmes
Then I think I'll support that.
dan friesen
And you know that.
unidentified
How?
dan friesen
By listening to Alex's show and hearing him talk about how deeply involved he is in their business.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
alex jones
Get the great toothpaste.
Get the great products at drjonesnaturals.com.
You'll notice a lot of stuff's going to sell out there because my dad, before he reorders everything, wants to gauge what you want, what you want to get.
My mom's trying to make him retire, but we've drafted him to stay on as a great sponsor in the future no matter what happens.
So a lot of this stuff is selling out right now, and he's going to reorder a lot of key stuff.
He's got some new products that are going to come out soon.
I'm trying to get somebody else to come in and take over the company from him.
He's still totally competent, but...
He's just working too much.
My mom's like, your dad needs to retire.
I'm sick of this.
I'm like, yes, yes, mother.
My mom doesn't give me a lot of orders.
When she gives me one, I tend to follow it.
I'm over at her house tomorrow.
Fourth of July.
And she'd be like, your dad needs to retire right now.
But not yet.
And he's a great sponsor right now.
So get the products at drjonesnationals.com.
dan friesen
So that's weird that Alex, completely unrelated to this business, is having his mom demand that he find someone to take over the business from his dad.
That's strange.
jordan holmes
Sort of suggests that you have control over the business.
dan friesen
Just because you can replace the person who runs it?
jordan holmes
So I imagine that a drug kingpin in some sort of prison somewhere, when asked, like, hey, did you make all of these things happen while you are still in prison, which would equivocate to a crime, right?
That kingpin would be like, no, I did not.
dan friesen
Totally unrelated.
jordan holmes
Didn't do it.
Not me, right?
They would not go like, well, obviously.
Why wouldn't I do that?
My mom is here.
dan friesen
Yeah, my mom told me.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Oh, fuck.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Can you imagine being Alex Jones and your mom saying, your dad wants to retire, but you're a legendary fuck-up.
You have fucked up so hard, this man cannot retire.
You're a legendary fuck-up.
You should get yelled at a little bit more.
I'm just saying.
dan friesen
Maybe that's why you had to go over on the fourth.
Could be.
Take some verbal lashings.
jordan holmes
It would be interesting if she was a real piece of shit to him now.
dan friesen
I mean, who knows?
I don't know anything about all their dynamics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be fun.
dan friesen
That's their business.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
So I think one thing that I'm conflicted about is him taking off on the fourth.
jordan holmes
I feel like you can't.
dan friesen
I feel like he loves America, and we're in a second-to-second countdown to the most important election ever.
jordan holmes
Pretty much.
dan friesen
Seems like he should be there on the 4th.
But then you could make an argument that he's the most patriotic person ever.
He's the only person who should be taking off on the 4th.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's interesting.
dan friesen
You know, I kind of see both sides.
jordan holmes
The extremes only, though.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Cannot have somebody who's like, ah, he can come in for a little bit.
dan friesen
But you know who's not off?
jordan holmes
Who's not off?
dan friesen
People who are taking your call at Dr. Jones Naturals.
So, Alex talks a little bit about his old work, which sucks, and he seems to think that everything that he's said in the past has been vindicated.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
And that's why your word of mouth, the articles, the videos, the reports you share, stuff we did 20 years ago, 30 years ago, is more important now, because it's not just Evergreen.
Evergreen is like a movie like The Godfather.
Or Apocalypse Now.
jordan holmes
Or A Tree.
alex jones
Or Star Wars Episode IV.
You know, cheesy, whatever, but it's evergreen.
It's good today is when you first saw it.
We're ultra green.
That's a term I just invented.
I said it years ago, but I coined it.
Ultra green gets better over time because it was accurate way back in the past, so it's still good later, but once it all comes true, it's ultra green.
This is an example to others that go, wait, well, how did this guy know this?
I'm like, hey, I don't want a monopoly on the truth.
I don't want to be the biggest swinging Johnson around here.
I want to get you motivated.
My job is to energize and encourage other people.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the problem is that you can't encourage and energize other people.
You have magic powers that have been bestowed upon you by a deity.
jordan holmes
The Lord God himself!
dan friesen
Yes, you can't just give that away to somebody else.
You can't encourage someone else.
To demand that God give them those powers too.
You're special, Alex!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen
If you believe anything they're saying, you're special.
And the reason that your shit is ultra green is because God gave you prophecy visions.
jordan holmes
I want to say that nothing has ever quite reminded me so much spiritually of the tiny Elvis SNL sketches than this.
Because it does feel like a tiny weird monster just going like, we're ultra green!
And then there are some people somewhere going like, yeah, buddy, you're so smart.
Ultra green, that's a brand new word you invented.
You're so smart.
dan friesen
You coined it, but you said it long ago.
jordan holmes
But you also said it a long time ago.
What is wrong with you, you narcissistic weirdo?
dan friesen
Well, I think that he's ultra green and he's allowed to give off this sort of self-image because when he says things like Biden will drop out in the next two weeks.
If that does end up happening, he will put that in his little crown.
jordan holmes
Ultra green crown.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And if it doesn't, he'll pretend that didn't happen.
And his crown is made up of ignoring all of the times that he's said crazy shit that's wrong.
And people let him get away with it.
And people like Tucker and Russell Brand, they're like, he predicted 9-11 totally accurately to the detail.
jordan holmes
How did he do that?
dan friesen
People play into his...
Like, having visions.
jordan holmes
Well, as long as they're not associated with drjonesnaturals.com.
dan friesen
No one is.
jordan holmes
Nobody.
dan friesen
It's almost like it's not real.
jordan holmes
It doesn't even exist, actually.
dan friesen
So Alex rants here a little bit about bothering pregnant people.
Which way?
Annoyingly.
So this is a really weird little story about himself.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And you'll never believe what it's leading into.
alex jones
Okay.
Globalism, liberalism is Satanism.
It's the left-hand path.
It is a mental disorder, as Michael Savage said 25 years ago, 30 years ago.
And we have to stop bowing to these people, and I'm the same way.
I don't want to go to a restaurant or some event and get in people's faces, but you know what?
I do it when I see leftist propaganda.
Or I see a pregnant woman and her husband in the checkout lane, and I'll say, hey.
I don't want to get in your business, but please research the shots.
Your child doesn't need hepatitis shots.
They don't need this.
Most of them go, yeah, we know.
Hey, Alex, we're listeners.
jordan holmes
Most pregnant women listen to InfoWars.
alex jones
Let me tell you something.
You need to follow your gut and research this.
Every once in a while, they get in my face saying, mind your own business.
And I said, well, my business is warning people about...
I mean, if you go out to Arizona and rent some desert cabin...
When you rent that thing, they're going to email you back and say, by the way, at night, around your car and stuff, have a flashlight, watch out for rattlesnakes.
And when you get there, there'll be paperwork on the counter, because I've done that in West Texas and Arizona.
I've gone on trips, hunting trips, and they'll have a fact sheet.
And if you get bit by a snake, here's what you should do.
I'm not getting in your business.
I don't want to be in your business, except you being preyed on by these people and brainwashed by these people.
Is my business.
And the fact that the left wants to be in my business has now made you my business.
Because believe me, I got plenty of, and that's conservatives and populists' biggest problem, is that we got our own lives, folks.
We don't want to spy on our neighbors.
We don't want to be in everybody's business.
And we don't have to be.
But they're in our business, and so it's time for us to get in their business, and we got to do it right now.
So here's that clip I mentioned of Glenn Beck.
Talking about the fact that just thank God we're not crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, thank God.
jordan holmes
I just got the business.
Fucking hell.
dan friesen
I think that's such a great punchline.
That is all an introduction to a clip with the title, Thank God We're Not Crazy.
jordan holmes
Thank God We're Not Crazy.
dan friesen
I bother the fuck out of people.
jordan holmes
Hey, all pregnant women listen to me, and even the ones that don't get up in my face and they'll say stuff like, mind your own business, and I say, ha ha ha!
This is my business!
dan friesen
Your business is my business because globalists are business.
And have you ever rented a cabin?
jordan holmes
Anyways, we're not crazy.
dan friesen
We're not crazy.
jordan holmes
Hey, I'm going to bother a pregnant woman at a grocery store checkout line about vaccines.
dan friesen
Now, some people will say, mind your business.
That is my business.
jordan holmes
It is my business.
dan friesen
No, that is not your business.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate any kind, I like a good, I am the manager.
And that's about as close as you can get in that scenario, right?
Like, mind your own business, I am the business!
Yeah, that's about it, yeah.
dan friesen
And the rationalization of the cabin metaphor is very strange because in this case, the pregnant person would have to be trying to metaphorically rent a cabin from Alex who gives them the fact sheet.
jordan holmes
He's the one giving them the fact sheet, not staying in the cabin.
dan friesen
Right.
It's like if someone who has a cabin to rent...
Just bothered you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And you didn't ask them about a cabin.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You don't give a shit about their views on rattlesnakes.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
And they just make it your business.
jordan holmes
No, it's like somebody wandered in from the desert, saw you at a grocery store checkout line, threw a checklist into your face, and said, stay in my cabin!
dan friesen
Yeah, and was really mad if you weren't receptive to the cabin rules.
jordan holmes
And you were like, I don't want to stay in the cabin.
It's like, everywhere is the cabin!
dan friesen
This cabin doesn't exist.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So, a lot of people have had some criticisms of Trump and some of his tyrannical habits and how worrying it is of what he might do if he gets into power.
Alex has a different complaint.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
And that is that he's not tyrannical enough.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
alex jones
I've said this probably 500 times, I'll say it again.
If you want to put Trump down, and I told him to his face, when I get to talk to Trump, I don't sit there and kiss his ass.
You should do this, you should do that.
That's my opinion.
jordan holmes
Kiss his feet.
alex jones
He had the power of the executive.
He could have kicked these people out of government and stopped them.
Instead, he didn't, so they undermined us.
So, Trump's way over here.
If tyranny's over here, Trump's way over here.
He should be right here, under the republic, in a war, dealing with these people constitutionally.
Not out of vindictiveness, but you've got to remove the cancer.
Politically.
Non-violently.
dan friesen
Politically non-violently.
In a revolution.
Trump should be more of a tyrant.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't feel like this tracks very well with a lot of Alex's career.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, here's the thing, right?
I appreciate that they put out a list of the things they want to do.
You know, like the whole Project 2025.
I like that.
That's great.
Now you have something to judge them by.
Oh, that's a monstrosity.
Okay, here we go.
Now we can move forward.
I don't even really need to know about the candidate anymore because I have the idea of what the candidate will do.
dan friesen
You know what's interesting about that, that Project 2025 thing?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't think it's come up on our show.
jordan holmes
It hasn't.
dan friesen
And I think one of the reasons is because it's not something that Alex is going to drop.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons is because it sounds so much like Agenda 2030.
jordan holmes
It sounds exactly like Agenda 2030.
dan friesen
Everything that his conspiracy shit is based on.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And so it having a name similar to that I think would really throw off the audience and so it's not really referenced.
jordan holmes
No, I think the end of this story of Alex is one of dramatic irony wherein everything that he has ever claimed to be against is what he...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, I mean, let's face it.
Trump is now a noted pedophile billionaire.
So that's the first problem there.
Of all the things that we're going to be yelling about, we've got one.
He's a rapist.
We've got one.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Alex does.
dan friesen
At the beginning of this episode, he did mumble over one of the bumpers about how the new Epstein releases are trouble for the...
jordan holmes
Trouble for the left, I would assume.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're just all over the Epstein book.
dan friesen
And then he doesn't really talk about it much more, and I think that's curious.
Yeah, I think the dramatic irony will more be that you have, Sure, yeah, that's good.
He just goes off course and accidentally brings into being the thing that he was so afraid of.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
No.
dan friesen
It's not that.
jordan holmes
It's not ironic that the fucking wizard is behind the curtain.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
That's a good point.
jordan holmes
That's a better way of putting it.
dan friesen
It's much more crass and cynical.
jordan holmes
It's just an asshole behind the curtain.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
That's a better way of putting it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have Alex talking about how you need to get rid of all these Dems.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Need to go.
jordan holmes
Gotta get them.
dan friesen
And the only thing that's coming.
False flags.
It's going to be false flags to stop them from being able to.
alex jones
We need to just fire them, remove them, and then set the ship straight.
Like if you fire bad employees, you don't beat them up in the parking lot, just give them a pink slip.
Bye-bye.
Have a nice day.
Have a good life.
baldy in newyork
Goodbye.
alex jones
Have a nice night.
Have a nice day.
Wish you well.
Bye-bye.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
alex jones
And that's what we're doing, and that's why they're so pissed.
They're like, hey, have a revolution.
Hey, have a war.
Oh, Trump supporters are training in the woods to kill black people.
Come on, you think white people are training in the woods to kill black people?
It's preposterous that they are telling you what they're getting ready to do.
So get ready for the false flags.
How many days of the election?
Let's put it on screen.
124 or 25, I forget.
They're telegraphing everything.
They're pre-programming it.
So I keep harping on this.
Everybody else is harping about states and polls and numbers and Trump and fundraising.
124 days, 11 hours, 32 minutes, 29 seconds.
If you think these people are going to give up, if the CIA is going to give up now when they're getting their ass kicked, got nothing coming.
But if we get ahead of it, and if we expose it, and if people know it when it happens, and we hit the ground exposing it, And they don't control the narrative.
If they don't control the narrative.
If they don't control the narrative.
jordan holmes
It's a good thing we're not crazy.
alex jones
If they don't control the narrative.
jordan holmes
It's a good thing we're not crazy.
alex jones
If they don't control the narrative.
jordan holmes
It's a good thing we're not crazy.
alex jones
If they don't control the...
What did I say?
The narrative, which they pre-programmed.
They're obviously the ones behind it.
They're the main suspects, bare minimum.
It's like a guy goes, I'm going to punch you in the face.
And they do it.
I mean, they're telling you.
And they wind up to do it.
Get out of the way, at least.
So we should start having a discussion, which none of the other Republicans are doing.
They just get focused on what's happening now, and that's why we lose.
We've got to think about big picture stuff.
All right, we're going to break.
Going right back to your calls.
I haven't gone to them yet.
Going to them right now.
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dan friesen
Totally separate business.
unidentified
Wild.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, obviously, you have to control the narrative.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's the only thing that I can think of right now.
Anybody who doesn't do that is out of their minds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What's the narrative that they're trying to control?
dan friesen
So, Alex needs control of the narrative vis-a-vis...
False flags.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Any kind of acts of domestic terrorism, racially motivated terrorism, those kinds of things, white supremacist, white nationalist violence, that all needs to be a false flag, or else you have the possibility of the normal public realizing who we're running cover for.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Who, like, we...
Support as part of our coalition.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then they'll turn against us.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And so we need to control the narrative so that the mainstream population doesn't see these attacks and things like that as what they are.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They need to see them as the CIA doing false flags so we can continue unimpeded.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Now that's going to be tough to do.
It's going to be tough to fully control that narrative on account of its bullshit.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And made up nonsense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Let me throw this in there.
I say he goes the opposite direction.
They should have a leftist false flag, right?
Where they dress up as a leftist, false flag the thing, have them get caught doing the thing, but because it was originally a leftist, then by their own logic, it actually has to be the CIA.
alex jones
Wait.
jordan holmes
I can't remember how many double negatives I was dealing with.
dan friesen
No, I got lost in that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm a little bit mixed up.
dan friesen
So you have an interesting pitch for them.
jordan holmes
It's going to be trouble.
dan friesen
I have this other feeling.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is, like, it's time to go, Alex.
Like, not you need to die, not you need to retire.
You need to change.
Like, I think he's already missed the opportunity to be, like, the vanguard and on the right side of, like...
The Elon Musk situation.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Sycophantically following him is not going to be the right play for conspiracy future.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's just not the way that this whole thing goes.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He needs to be opposed to the Supreme Court decisions.
He needs to be opposed to Trump for what his brand needs to be in the future.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He should make it that pivot, but he's not going to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like if you're going to...
I mean, if it was us, if it was, like, InfoWars is going to end.
Dear God.
Fucking dear God.
You know, if it's going to end, make a clean break.
Be done with InfoWars.
When you start something new, fucking I'm back against everybody again.
It's me against the world.
I can't even have Infowars anymore.
I've just got a mic.
I'm just that guy.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He can't just be like, hey, guess what?
We're also still fans of Twitter and Elon Musk.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We're just doing that still.
This is just unsustainable long term for the conspiracy Yeah, and it's like, it's weird because he can still use the 9-11 thing.
jordan holmes
Like, his past is still available for him if he turns on everybody.
That's what he's got.
That's the thing that he's got, is he can now say, I hate everybody, and they've already got him saying, like, they've already said, like, oh, this is the guy who predicted 9-11.
This is the guy.
So even in those far right circles, they still have to take him seriously.
Theoretically.
I mean, according to kayfabe.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we finally do get to some callers.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this first caller believes that the debate was a setup.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Who do you think it was a setup against?
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Could be either, right?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with RFK Jr.
dan friesen
It was definitely a setup against him.
Inasmuch as he wasn't there.
Right.
Man, he's having a tough time.
jordan holmes
He's having a great go.
dan friesen
So, no, it was a setup against Biden.
alex jones
Rudy is the first caller out of the box on Joe Biden, the Dems.
Rudy, thanks for calling.
Welcome.
unidentified
Thank you, Alex.
I'd like to make three quick points and then plug my podcast if I could.
alex jones
Sure.
unidentified
The first one is people aren't really talking about whether the debate was a setup or not.
Given the early date of the debate and the fact that they set the rules that they knew Biden would fail, no teleprompter, no notes, he was bound to fail.
And so people aren't really talking about that.
alex jones
Yeah, no, they pulled the rug out from under him, but he's refusing to step down.
That's a fact.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
So now I think where they wanted us to be, in which is they're threatening Biden right now to either step aside or face several avenues for removal, one being the 25th Amendment convincing the cabinet to remove him, two, him having some sort of hackathon.
So what are you saying?
alex jones
We should back Biden then?
Because he's their nominee.
It's anti-freedom to not do that.
unidentified
Well, yeah, but Biden is not going to make it to the finish line.
And my theory is that...
They're going to let Kamala Harris become president for three months, providing she doesn't run on the 2024 ticket.
dan friesen
Okay, so now that's interesting.
Harris becomes president conditionally with her not running.
So I guess this is probably how you end up with Hillary in there.
jordan holmes
That might as well be an honorary, hey, you get to be president for the day.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's going to be something you could sell her on, maybe.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
It'd be tough.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
I don't know.
These people are just obsessed with something being a fairly interesting story.
So the debate has to be a setup against someone.
Initially it was a setup against Trump, but that was never going to fly in the aftermath of what happened and the response people had.
So it's a setup.
They knew that Biden was going to fail, and so they made him do that.
jordan holmes
I think what's so funny about that is that he accidentally gave one of the most devastating Critiques of Biden's performance that there could be.
Insofar as he described it as a setup that they didn't have a teleprompter and they didn't tell him what the questions were in advance.
If that's a setup as opposed to the thing you were expected to do.
dan friesen
It was the rules of the debate.
jordan holmes
That's the conspiracy.
They set him up by lowering the bar below what was reasonably expected of a child.
dan friesen
And it is interesting that Alex is getting into this, like, strategic thing of, like, oh, maybe we should be supporting Biden then, because that will be the thing that Trump will beat, and, you know.
unidentified
See?
jordan holmes
Just be the thing.
You're Alex.
That's the luxury.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Be the guy who says, fuck him anyways!
That's what you get to do!
dan friesen
It would be good.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Go back to your youth, back when you used to beat people up on the streets.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Like he talks about in this next one.
alex jones
The term I developed 20 years ago, resistance is victory.
Because if you don't resist, you're going to lose.
The first ingredient is resisting.
And if you're resisting a takeover, you may not have all the answers, but it's like going to a boxing class when you're 10 years old, which I did, and I didn't like it.
My dad made me do it.
You know, boxing, karate, all that stuff, like actually six, seven years old.
He'd take me to karate class.
He'd take me to a boxing class, and I'd get in there, and it'd be okay and everything.
But when it came time to fight and people attacked me, I knew I had this instinctive thing because I'd already been doing it.
And so if I hadn't gone to those classes, I still would have done okay, but I wouldn't have had any training.
I'd probably got my ass kicked every time instead of most of the time winning.
And so this is all a boxing class, folks, or a jiu-jitsu class, or in those days a karate class.
And so don't look at it as, oh, this sucks, they're cheating.
The fact they're cheating means we've got to be even tougher.
Like when I was 11 years old, got off the bus, and the junior high or high school, you know, Sophomores, whatever they were, got around me and started beating me up.
And I fought back a little, and I got home with double black eyes and a busted lip.
My dad wasn't Mr. Badass.
He wasn't Mr. Tough Guy.
But he said, I said, Dad, they busted my lip and did all this, and you ought to go find out where they live and say something to their parents.
He said, I got a better idea.
How about you just fight harder?
And then when I...
Two years later, put one of them in the hospital and put one of the other kids' eyes out.
My dad went defending me to the lawyers and defending me to the court and said, good job, son.
You need to start it.
You sure finished it.
I bashed one of those kids' heads to the ground.
I smashed a brick over the other kid's eye, blinded him, and my dad was like, good job, son.
Same kids.
You dealt with it.
You're a man now.
And, I mean, that's just how this works, folks.
That's just how this works.
You can be a pussy or you can be a man.
dan friesen
And now is payback.
I won't let my dad retire because we need to sell these stupid pills.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Man, sometimes you don't need a ton of words to show a window into a world you know is very big.
dan friesen
Grim.
jordan holmes
Just that my dad said it was okay.
It should be like a, oh no, there's a lot of darkness behind that door.
Leave it closed!
Leave it closed!
dan friesen
I'm not certain how much of this I believe is like...
Technically accurate or whatever.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
But assuming that what he's saying is true, I think there's something to be said for standing up to bullies and all that shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But even so, if you're talking about smashing someone's head in and shit, a parental response that is proportional should be like, you went a little far on this.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
This is probably not the, you know, hey, I understand you got to stand up for yourself and they're bullies and they're picking on you.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But you...
You were in murder mode.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, on the other hand, you are talking to somebody who just almost murdered somebody.
So you're probably like...
Hey, buddy.
Maybe we don't need to...
Actually, I think you did a great job.
I think you're a good boy.
dan friesen
That's fascinating.
jordan holmes
That is fascinating.
dan friesen
What if Alex's dad has lived in fear of him since he murdered people?
jordan holmes
What if it's the Twilight Zone kid who has the mental powers?
It's that episode of the Twilight Zone.
dan friesen
There's so many possibilities.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Now we've opened up a whole new window.
jordan holmes
It is so much of Alex's stories, I feel like, are an analogy that he's looking for, and then he decides that he all...
We did that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like, it is so much.
It's like blank, which I also did.
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're literalizing the metaphor.
jordan holmes
You don't have to.
It could just be a parable.
Jesus wasn't like, hey, I got one talent, five talents, and ten talents.
I'm the best.
dan friesen
Boom.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So do you like the classics?
jordan holmes
Which classics?
dan friesen
Literature.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
The canon of the greats.
jordan holmes
I like the canon of the 1812 Overture.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's not literature, my friend.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
You ever read Beowulf?
jordan holmes
I have read Beowulf.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Generally, you have to in school.
jordan holmes
Usually.
dan friesen
I remember reading it when I was a bit young.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And thankfully, Alex gave me a refresher course on it here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We're better than these people, damn it.
You think they're going to win long term?
We're winning culturally.
We're winning everywhere.
We're beating their asses everywhere.
All over the world, populace, are being elected.
The ESGs and BlackRock are in trouble.
The New World Order is in trouble.
We're turning the tide.
They know.
It's like you use the Beowulf, you know, the oldest written stuff out of Europe.
It's like 800 years old, at least, when it got translated into English or into Latin.
And Beowulf is an allegory.
But Grendel, the baby of the big demon dragon, comes into the keep.
To kill the Norsemen that have come there.
And the Norsemen have come to beat this thing that keeps killing everybody.
And finally, some real badasses show up and say, we're ready for whatever this thing is.
And they're all asleep.
And Grendel comes in.
And Grendel starts biting their heads off of men.
He's like 20 feet tall.
He smashed their guts out.
And Beowulf...
jordan holmes
Is this the movie?
alex jones
...starts attacking him and starts stabbing him.
And Grendel goes, oh my God, I'm against the real thing.
And Grendel runs the door.
And Beowulf closes the door on his arm and slams it and grabs it and pulls the arm out of his socket.
And that's the art type of grab their arm, put it in the door, and start slamming it until it breaks off.
And that's the fight you're in, folks.
You're in a fight for your life right now.
dan friesen
So yeah, you called it.
Alex is describing a scene from the 2007 movie Beowulf, not the encounter between Beowulf and Grendel in the epic poem.
One of the huge criticisms of that movie is that Neil Gaiman took significant liberties with the plot, particularly around Grendel.
Full details were changed and things were dramatized in ways that work better for the screen compared to the original text.
One of them was that in the poem, it's just said that Beowulf tears off Grendel's arm with his bare hands.
In the movie, however, Grendel is trying to run away and Beowulf wraps a chain around his arm holding him back.
Grendel's arm gets slammed repeatedly in the door, which severs his arm.
The detail in the movie is kind of interesting because there's a small point made in the poem that all of the men's weapons that were used against Grendel did nothing to him.
So it was notable that Beowulf was only able to injure him without one, and the power of that moment is somewhat dampened by the idea of Grendel's arm being able to be wedged in the door to be taken off.
jordan holmes
Those swords hold...
A door!
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Oh no, leverage.
This happens to Alex somewhat regularly, where he tries to pretend that he's citing a classic piece of literature or history, but because of the specific details he uses, he accidentally reveals that his primary source is actually a kind of bad movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all he's got.
jordan holmes
It is the thing about literature, right, is that a lot of it, and I'm no expert, is like giving you enough To make a big picture in your mind.
You know?
Like, you are filling in a lot of the story by him saying, oh, I ripped his arm off with my bare hands.
You are then populating that in your own movie.
dan friesen
Especially in the form of, like, epic poems.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But if you have to rely on somebody else's imagination, you're not going to have as good a time.
dan friesen
It's going to be more specific, and you're going to end up like this.
jordan holmes
You're going to end up like this.
dan friesen
Alex has seen the movie Beowulf, and great.
unidentified
Good for him.
Yep.
dan friesen
So we get back to some calls.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And this next person believes that we're going to get a President Harris.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that that is God's judgment upon us.
jordan holmes
That's God's judgment is President Harris.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
Interesting judgment, God.
alex jones
Tony in Florida, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
You said earlier we were on God's timetable, and I agree.
Unfortunately, God's not on our side.
Kamala Harris will be the new world order president.
In Revelation chapter 17, the prophet saw a woman riding a great beast.
Who had blasphemies, and she persecuted the saints.
That's where we are.
Kamala Harris is going to be the president because we're under judgment for everything that's happened with the children.
We didn't fight enough for the children, Alex.
The children have suffered.
We haven't done anything.
God's turned us over, and I hate to say this.
The only thing that's going to save us right now is the persecution that you're going through.
Every American that's listening to me right now, you're going to go through it.
They didn't build those camps to go play preschool, folks.
It's coming.
So, yes, you're right.
The fight is we've already won that victory in Jesus Christ.
If you want to save this country, you've got to tell your neighbor about the gospel of Jesus Christ.
alex jones
No, let me stop you and say you're 100% right.
She may get in.
We may be under judgment.
I don't know if this is like Nineveh.
We get 100-year reprieve, but you're right.
We deserve whatever God does to us right now, and there's a good chance you're right.
unidentified
I hate to say it, man, and I'm not trying to be scared, but that's the timetable of the Bible.
The Bible says Babylon the Great will fall.
America is Babylon the Great.
There's no denying it.
We rule the world right now.
We've done it for 50 years.
Yes, do we have competitors?
Sure.
But the evil that's about to come out of this Washington, D.C. will engulf the whole world, and only God himself is going to come back and destroy it with fire.
You might think this is crazy, Alex.
I had a dream about this 20 years ago, and he used to scare the hell out of me.
Now I'm not scared anymore because I see it coming through.
I called you about three months ago and said, Kamala Harris, be picked.
Right now in Drudge Report, what does it say?
It's her party now.
dan friesen
So one of the downsides to Alex's whole, like, I have prophetic visions thing is that if a caller calls in and says that they do too...
jordan holmes
You gotta go roll with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now that you've established that it is real and possible, then you can't just poo-poo somebody else's magic.
dan friesen
There must be other magicians.
jordan holmes
It's the trouble with magic.
Once you break the rules of reality, reality will forever be broken.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Biden's going to step down within two weeks, and then maybe Kamala Harris will become president for a bit on the condition that she doesn't run for president in 2024, but also maybe she'll be the New World Order president in the Whore of Babylon.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Got a wide range set of possibilities here.
jordan holmes
You know what's weird?
People never really comment on how weird gods tend to get later on.
You know?
Like, every religion, you start off, you're like, oh, God is like, hey, you should be cool.
And everybody's like, everybody should eat and all that stuff.
And then eventually you're getting into God's judgment.
Is Kamala Harris becoming president?
dan friesen
I mean, think about it.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
dan friesen
Think about it like any band.
Their early work sometimes is a bit more...
Buy the book.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then they get experimental with time.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Some of the later Beatles albums.
jordan holmes
This guy's Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, I gotcha.
You know what?
I hadn't thought maybe he's freestyling a little bit.
dan friesen
He's no longer I want to hold your hand.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
That's a pop sensibility that he's rejecting entirely.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a sitar.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Everyone's high.
Also, another caller calls in later and disputes that America is Babylon.
So that guy's saying it's not disputed, it's disputed.
jordan holmes
I guess that's been disputed.
dan friesen
So we've got another caller here who says that we're going to lose to the devil.
eben in california
Those last two callers are both very accurate.
I think this one world beast system won't be stopped.
And I believe in a worldly sense we lose this fight to the Antichrist.
But I do believe that I'm praying that Trump get in and that Jesus' glory will be shown.
And that good things will come to life.
You know, it says that all things will be revealed at the end.
I believe there's more people that need to hear about the evil of this world, which you've been doing, you know, the best job possible doing.
dan friesen
I mean, this is pretty extreme stuff.
jordan holmes
Here's what I find fascinating.
Because this is not something that had occurred to me, really, up until just now.
But now I'm, like, revisiting so many old moments.
It is...
Horrifically blasphemous to think that God might lose.
You know?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's no situation where the Antichrist has a shot.
Or like an outside...
Hey, listen.
You know, it's not...
The Globetrotters...
Even they lost one time to the Wizards.
One time!
dan friesen
Generals.
jordan holmes
Generals.
Yeah, sorry.
I was talking about the real Washington State.
But God never loses in the end.
That's not how it works.
dan friesen
Yeah, but this guy isn't saying that they're going to lose in the end.
They're just going to lose on Earth.
jordan holmes
I think we're going to lose to the Antichrist.
dan friesen
On Earth!
jordan holmes
Well, that's part of the book!
unidentified
Nah.
jordan holmes
Like, it's all laid out.
The idea, it's all laid out.
Everybody should be, I'm just, this is what frustrates me.
If you believe that this is the book of Revelations, relax!
It's coming!
It's already started, it's gonna happen, that's what you, that's why you got a God, so you know!
dan friesen
See, I think that what this guy's trying to express is we're gonna lose this battle but win the war.
Right.
Sure.
I think he's thinking that God's going to win the war, but right now we're in some bad shape, I think.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
But it's still a little bit...
I get bummed out when it's like, well, we're all probably going to lose to the Antichrist, and I hope that God's glory is revealed through a Trump victory.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, God's got to get something to do.
He's got to get a hobby.
dan friesen
Well, he does.
He apparently has a hobby and it's getting Trump in office.
Stopping the steal.
jordan holmes
Somehow he's both extremely good and terrible at getting Trump in office.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we get another caller, and this person apparently predicted COVID.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I can't confirm or deny that.
jordan holmes
Steve Pachenik with a voice box.
dan friesen
Nope.
But...
They have a prediction about the 4th that did not come to pass.
alex jones
All right.
Baldy in New York, thanks for holding.
You're on the air, Baldy.
baldy in newyork
Okay, Alex.
You may remember I predicted COVID live on air, which you could listen to, at the Balder Report, which could easily be found at my house.
alex jones
I do remember you've been calling in for a decade, and I do remember you predicting COVID and calling in a few years ago talking about it.
So refresh our memory.
Tell us what you predicted.
baldy in newyork
You can check it out at my ex-account, Baldy2020.
Since March, though, I've been calling in saying the only way that they could stop Trump is with a nuclear 9-11.
Now, let me ask you, Alex, if you were one of these impotent globalists and you know that the only thing you got left is a nuclear 9-11 you got loaded in the chamber, you wanted to send a message to patriots, what day would it take place?
jordan holmes
Wednesday.
alex jones
I mean, I think anything's on the table.
I think a nuclear 9-11 is real.
I think the globalists may do that.
I mean, I blame Russia.
baldy in newyork
July 4th would probably be the day I would pick if I was one of these guys to send a message.
dan friesen
So we didn't have a nuclear 9-11 on the phone.
Although, there was a lot of smoke in the air from fireworks.
jordan holmes
They're, they just, I do love how much the globalists care about the little things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, that little extra touch.
dan friesen
But you have to think that if you think they're obsessed with numbers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You can't think that they're like, hey, we're ready.
We're two weeks ahead of schedule.
Let's just go.
dan friesen
Can't.
jordan holmes
No.
It's got to be the fourth to send a message.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
What?
Why?
We're already, the cake has been made, man.
We just got to slice it.
We just got to go.
dan friesen
Nope.
There's a cosmic humor to this that is the priority.
jordan holmes
We've got to stop talking about this cosmic humor, man.
Seriously.
I know I joined a weird organization, but I just want to get shit done.
dan friesen
It seems like we are obsessed with not succeeding in our evil plans because of some weird poetry that we want to install into everything.
jordan holmes
Yes!
It does feel like weird poetry is the thing that's tripping us up over and over and over again.
dan friesen
This should come as a surprise to no one that I'm tendering my resignation from this evil organization.
We cannot get out of our own way.
jordan holmes
We cannot get out of our own way, guys.
dan friesen
I've come to the conclusion that this rot goes to the core.
This cannot be changed.
jordan holmes
I will be starting a rival organization.
Admittedly, we will find it difficult to compete with the devil directly, but...
dan friesen
I agree.
It is a little silly.
Yeah, just a little bit.
Oh, well.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
We have one last caller here, and they bring up something that happened back in April, and that was that a member of Kamala Harris's security detail, the Secret Service detail, was acting erratically and yelling some stuff and got detained.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's weird.
This person has a theory about that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
You remember the Secret Service agent freakout on Kamlo's detail a few months ago?
alex jones
Yeah, they said that...
Remind people what happened there.
unidentified
Well, apparently she had a moment waiting for the VP to arrive out there at Andrews and snap and attack the detail chief.
And they had to take her weapon away and restrain her.
Now where she is now, I don't know.
But I was rereading Executive Orders by Tom Clancy, and in this book, Jack Ryan is the president, and the Iranian mollusk have managed to infiltrate a kid.
from like 14 to become an American and a Secret Service agent.
jordan holmes
What a good plan Tom Clancy had.
unidentified
What to say that's not what's going on with President Trump's detail.
I mean, I have a lot of respect for the Secret Service, don't get me wrong, but these folks are...
They are frantic.
They are maniacally...
alex jones
Wait, wait, wait.
Because I'm not following you.
I apologize.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
If I'm dense, you talked about Kamala having a freakout.
Biden's had freakouts.
The dog keeps attacking everybody.
Biden walks around naked all night.
I told you that years ago.
Now it's coming out in the news.
All of that.
You were talking about Kamala having a freakout.
Now you're on to Trump and an Iranian Secret Service agent might kill him.
Is that what you said?
unidentified
No, I was talking about the Secret Service agent on Kamala's detail had a freakout.
alex jones
Yes, I saw that.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
But she's had freakouts, too, and so has Biden.
Now, I remember, in fact, the Secret Service said a month ago, they said we're worried about internal threats in the Secret Service.
So, guys, type in Secret Service worried about internal threats.
They're worried about sleeper agents or crazy people.
I remember that.
So now I get what you're saying.
Sorry, I wasn't understanding.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex realizes he was like, oh no, I had written the story that we were talking about Harris freaking out as opposed to someone on the set.
Okay, so that's what you're talking about.
So this guy's theory is that this was mistimed.
This person who freaked out was supposed to be on Trump's detail.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they went off like a time bomb, but it was mistimed.
jordan holmes
Tragic.
Tragic Manchurian mistake-a-date.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
As they say.
dan friesen
Yep.
All because he read a fucking Tom Clancy novel.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that Tom Clancy's ghostwriters are secretly in control of all foreign policy.
dan friesen
Well, one of them is Steve Pchenik.
jordan holmes
Of course.
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
He worked with Steve Pchenik.
Steve Pchenik has done everything.
jordan holmes
Is it possible that all...
All of Tom Clancy's ghostwriters have worked in the State Department at one point in time or another.
dan friesen
Kissinger wrote a bunch of them.
I can't think of fancy novels.
jordan holmes
I couldn't think of one.
Any one of them was right there for you.
I just saw Harrison Ford's face.
dan friesen
I saw Harrison Ford's face in my head and thought October.
But I couldn't remember the other words.
jordan holmes
Oh no.
It was great.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Kissinger wrote a bunch of those.
Brzezinski wrote a couple.
jordan holmes
Those were pretty good.
The Young Adult series was written by staffers.
That's the fun thing that they get to do on the side.
dan friesen
Kissinger staffers?
unidentified
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
So, quality theorizing going on here.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
Across the board.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I do think that they're not quite sure what to do with what's going on in the Democratic Party right now.
jordan holmes
I think what's fascinating about it is what's going on in the Democratic Party is so crazy right now, this seems fine.
dan friesen
I'm not going to sign off on that.
jordan holmes
I don't mean fine, but I mean for them...
This is like, what are you guys doing?
Things are so insane on your enemy's side, you've got to amp up your game now.
Now things need to be twice as insane to combat their lunacy.
Instead, this is like restrained?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think I might have the other perspective of you.
And that might be that if things are going kind of insane with the other side, reel it in a little.
jordan holmes
Where's the fun in that?
dan friesen
Well, this isn't that fun.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
They are reeling it in.
That's what it feels like to me.
They're reeling it in.
They gotta go even higher.
dan friesen
I don't know how you do.
I don't know how you put a hat on a hat in this case.
jordan holmes
Biden is...
There's actually two men standing on top of each other.
dan friesen
But all of that stuff that you could even come up with off the top of your head is probably something that some weird QAnon account has theorized about.
You're not going to break any new ground.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I think that's why you've got to take off on the 4th, you know?
jordan holmes
Yeah, just have a barbecue.
dan friesen
That's reeling it in.
jordan holmes
Just cook some burgers.
unidentified
Yeah, punt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's a good call.
dan friesen
That's kind of how it feels.
jordan holmes
I think that's pretty much what everybody did on the 4th.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, I don't know how any of the ball is going to break in terms of reality, let alone where Alex is going to go with this.
But we do have him on a clock.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The 20th is the deadline for Alex's prediction.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And write that down in your notes so we can hold on to that.
jordan holmes
20th, Biden steps down or doesn't?
Full on steps down.
dan friesen
Well, he might serve out the rest of his term.
We're sort of wishy-washy on that.
jordan holmes
Okay, we're wishy-washy.
dan friesen
But he'll announce it by the 20th at least.
jordan holmes
We'll give you 75% if he doesn't run but doesn't step down.
dan friesen
We'll get into the percentages later.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Let's not agree on percentages yet.
jordan holmes
The 20th is the 20th.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Leo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
unidentified
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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