#943: July 9, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex discussing "Operation Big Boy," bonding with his most impressionable employee, and making the terrible decision to reopen his Sandy Hook conspiracy files.
July 12, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:23:44
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| It's time to pray. | ||
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I have great respect for knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
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Thanks for holding us. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot is I was waiting to get on a video call. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I was staring at myself because the other person hadn't arrived yet. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I was really, like, doing some eyebrow work. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I was like, I got more flexibility in the eyebrows than I thought. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I've always thought that I had very unexpressive eyebrows. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| As I was looking in the mirror, I was like, I got some arch on them. | ||
| Can you do the one? | ||
| Alright, that's not bad. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| The one rised eyebrows, I definitely have worked on it. | ||
| I've definitely... | ||
| I've got a solid one. | ||
| That was something my dad braised me on. | ||
| But you also incorporated the mouth, the little sneer in there too. | ||
| But I think I can go fairly high to express surprise. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And I was thrilled to see it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think you've probably kind of avoided worrying too much about your eyes over the years, I imagine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, not really paying too much attention, looking too hard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| That's actually, to me, a sign of confidence. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the eyes still crossed, but these brows go up. | ||
| I think you're doing... | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| Honestly... | ||
| It might be a marker of self-esteem. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I think it might be one of the more positive things I've heard in a while. | ||
| Hey, what a bright spot. | ||
| So how about you? | ||
| My bright spot is, I guess it's a bright spot. | ||
| I texted you the picture. | ||
| So I was going through listening to concerts, you know? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whenever I don't have a live album, you know, most of the time I listen to music, but sometimes I want to listen to a live album. | ||
| And so you got to go to like YouTube or something like that. | ||
| And then I saw one of the ones that popped up was Daft Punk'd a live tour in 07 in Lollapalooza. | ||
| And I was like, fuck yeah! | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| I clicked on it and I started playing it and there I was! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was there! | ||
| You found yourself in the crowd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was like... | ||
| And it's weird because I think it's fairly normal. | ||
| If you've been to a lot of concerts and you've seen a lot of concert documentaries, you've probably been in the crowd. | ||
| I was just one person in the crowd. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But you're visible. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| You're not just another person in the crowd. | ||
| Very prominent. | ||
| But you're also blurry. | ||
| I wouldn't have been able to tell it was you, but you are prominent in the shot. | ||
| What's weird about it was that this was... | ||
| Rare footage. | ||
| I always like a good rare footage. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it was 07. This was before they had a resolution. | ||
| This was back whenever you had to spend money on a camera to get a tour doc or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So it's crazy. | ||
| Pre-flip phones. | ||
| I have just discovered my past. | ||
| On YouTube. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In a weird place. | ||
| And I guess that's a bright spot. | ||
| That is interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There I am. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just an interesting thing to note. | ||
| Somebody else should have been there. | ||
| I'm not that guy. | ||
| I imagine a lot of people have had that experience, right? | ||
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Yeah, they have to have. | |
| I've never had that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Seeing myself in a concert, but... | ||
| I don't go to that many concerts, I guess. | ||
| That's the issue. | ||
| And who's making a tour doc in Columbia, Missouri? | ||
| Yeah, there is that. | ||
| No, I imagine it's fairly... | ||
| I mean, I bet people go to concerts now and everybody's got a camera. | ||
| So it's fairly common for them to be like, oh, I can see myself in that somebody's version of the show. | ||
| In 07, that was not the case. | ||
| There's official business. | ||
| There's official camera. | ||
| Well, that's great. | ||
| I'm glad for you. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about the 9th, July 9th, 2024. | ||
| This shit sucks. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| Spoiler alert, Alex decides he's going to start doing Sandy Hook conspiracies again. | ||
| So if you don't want to hear some of that stuff, this might not be the episode for you. | ||
| It's completely fucked up. | ||
| I don't know why he's doing this. | ||
| I think this is actually one of the most inevitable things that could possibly have happened. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But it's also the most confounding. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's say a little hello to some new wants. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Milo and Finn are going to make sure bozos like Alex have to experience Operation Dookie Digits sometimes. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, shout out to Jeremy for showing me this show, and I owe my wife an apology for introducing it to our house. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, if you like Taskmaster, give Game Changer on Dropout a try. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And I will float them. | ||
| You better not. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And thanks to Dan and Jordan from their friends at Guatemala Trading Company. | ||
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| My wife and I make it. | ||
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Whee! | |
| Also use code AlexJonesSucks for 10% off your order. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So, we start today's adventure off with the... | ||
| Alex has got a catchphrase for something that's happening in the world. | ||
| It's a lot of fun. | ||
| It's Tuesday, July 9th, 2024. | ||
| NATO's meeting in D.C. for their anniversary of their founding, planning World War III, and the globalists have launched Operation Big Boy. | ||
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InfoWars. | |
| Operation Big Boy. | ||
| Operation Big Boy. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| That's in the title of the show. | ||
| Operation Big Boy is in full effect. | ||
| Operation Big Boy. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Do you have any idea what Operation Big Boy might be? | ||
| A new restaurant? | ||
| No, it has nothing to do with Bob's. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It is about people, a couple people said that Biden's going to have a big boy press conference. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Operation Big Boy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex believes that the media has entirely turned against Biden and they're openly mocking him to his face by saying he's going to have a big boy press conference. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| And Alex has decided. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absent any proof other than a couple people have said Big Boy, he has decided that there is a behind-the-scenes coordinated attack called Operation Big Boy. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I kind of do, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's good branding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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After that, the president will hold a press conference, I guess a big-boy press conference is what we're calling it, and take some questions from you all. | |
| This week, President Biden will speak to national labor leaders of AFL-CIO, host the NATO summit to show the unprecedented strength of our alliance, hold a press conference, a big-boy press conference, according to Justin Sink from Bloomberg. | ||
| They are openly undermining the puppet-in-chief because he's refusing to step down. | ||
| The knives are out. | ||
| Thor, the evil pedo, the crib keeper, Joe the sniffer, Biden. | ||
| Operation Big Boy. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Because he won't step down, so everyone's calling him a big boy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What's the sniffer? | ||
| Sniffing people's hair. | ||
| There was a meme that went around. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Because that could be kind of a cool nickname. | ||
| I can see a world where Sniffer is like, oh, he always knows what's coming around the corner. | ||
| You know, like a war nickname. | ||
| Something like that, yeah. | ||
| But not that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not cool. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
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Nope. | |
| So I think this is so quintessentially Infowars. | ||
| Because there's the need to give a name to something. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then within a couple weeks, I'm sure that Operation Big Boy will be like a thing that's real. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And there will be documents, like Operation Lockstep. | ||
| There's all these operations that just come out of shit-talking. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| But it does mean that they're spending... | ||
| Listen, if I'm globalist and I'm doing a consultancy thing where I'm like, how can we streamline? | ||
| I'm like, you're spending too much time in boardrooms coming up with operation names. | ||
| That's just clearly a streamlineable thing. | ||
| It's all part of the same operation, the operation we work for the devil. | ||
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The big boy. | |
| Yeah, the big boy. | ||
| So Biden is a big boy, but he is not actually in charge at the White House, apparently. | ||
| We find out who is here. | ||
| So as the world leaders from Europe, from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, show up and plan the larger war with Russia and China, the Defense Department spokesman and the White House spokesperson are openly talking about him having a big boy time. | ||
| Look, you're so smart, you answered all the questions. | ||
| You're a big boy now. | ||
| What are they going to do to Biden next? | ||
| Is he arrogantly, they even admit now, Hunter basically runs the White House. | ||
| Crackhead lunatic, Chinese communist spy. | ||
| All right, folks, I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| Follow me on Alex Jones. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| That's always great. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| I love that. | ||
| Hunter Biden's in charge of the White House. | ||
| I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| Completely changed my tone to throw it out to break. | ||
| Completely changed my tone. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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I could turn it off and turn it on in a heartbeat, baby. | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That's always great. | ||
| Yeah, Hunter is in charge. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is news. | ||
| This would be... | ||
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You ever see 25th Hour? | |
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It was a movie made by that guy about that stuff. | ||
| Anyways, I think it was about Ed Norton. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's the 25th hour. | ||
| He's been convicted of a crime, right? | ||
| And he's having his last hour before he goes to jail. | ||
| I've heard of the movie before. | ||
| I just don't think I've seen it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Spike Lee, I think. | ||
| I believe it's Spike Lee. | ||
| Right? | ||
| What if the 25th hour was set at the White House about Hunter Biden? | ||
| Right? | ||
| He gets to be president. | ||
| Well, wouldn't he be pardoning himself through his head right now? | ||
| He's right, you think? | ||
| Like, if he was really in charge, I think there'd be different things happening. | ||
| Oh, well, who doesn't? | ||
| Because he's sending out emails like, totally President Biden. | ||
| Pardon Hunter ASAP. | ||
| I'm a big boy. | ||
| Pardon Big Boy Jr. | ||
| All right, whatever. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| So Biden is a big boy, and the media's all turned against him now because the globalists have sent out their operation plans. | ||
| But what about Trump? | ||
| What's going on with him? | ||
| What is going on with him? | ||
| I sent the clip on July 4th, but I never saw it on my list. | ||
| Not blaming the crew. | ||
| We took that day off. | ||
| But when you guys go back to last Thursday and pull up the Putin clip, Putin says he believes Trump sincerely wants peace. | ||
| And then a few days later, he met with another Eastern European leader from Hungary, Viktor Orban. | ||
| They basically said the same thing. | ||
| I meant to play that. | ||
| That's important to get on record. | ||
| But I just told you what Putin said. | ||
| And Trump can end the war overnight because the U.S. funds 80% of it. | ||
| And then all Russia wants is that buffer zone on their border. | ||
| They don't want to expand anymore. | ||
| They got more land than they want. | ||
| They know it's a nuclear war if they did expand. | ||
| They didn't start it. | ||
| That's clear. | ||
| So that's where we are. | ||
| Here is Putin. | ||
| Wow, great job, crew. | ||
| They found that clip in 30 seconds. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I'm impressed. | ||
| Here's Putin on July 4th. | ||
| You know, the fact that Mr. Trump, as a presidential candidate, says that he's ready and wants to stop the war in Ukraine, we take that very seriously. | ||
| I'm sold. | ||
| This is, yeah, great. | ||
| Mussolini wants peace! | ||
| Coming up soon! | ||
| Putin endorses Trump. | ||
| That's the headline for Alex, I guess. | ||
| Which is compelling and very interesting. | ||
| Also Orban. | ||
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Cool. | |
| I do like a good foreign president being like, we want that guy. | ||
| He'll help us kill. | ||
| Giving a speech on the 4th of July, too. | ||
| Alex should be like, maybe this is a little on the nose. | ||
| Nothing more patriotic than a president on the 4th of July doing what Russia asks him to do. | ||
| So we have a situation where the U.S. and Russia are at a little bit of a conflict with each other. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And Alex's belief is that they're being played off against each other so they'll weaken each other so the globalists can come in for the kill. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he's used this metaphor a hundred times. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's like in that Bond movie where there's the fighting fish. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then Blofeld is like the smart fish. | ||
| We'll wait until the other one will stay out of the fight while the other two fight and then come in and kill whoever loses. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Smartass fish. | ||
| It's always notable that Alex only ever quotes the worst human beings from movies. | ||
| Well, and plays the clip repeatedly. | ||
| He plays a very long clip from, I believe it's from Russia with Love here. | ||
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All that you say could be true. | |
| What else? | ||
| As an added refinement, I think that Spectre will probably have the chance of a personal revenge for the killing of our operative Dr. No. | ||
| All right, let's stop there. | ||
| And the reason I played this so much is the deputy head of the OSS and later MI6 wrote that. | ||
| He also wrote a book in the late 50s about releasing a bioweapon to kill every person on Earth and the elite staying on a space station while we die. | ||
| Why do they tell you that? | ||
| Because that's the stuff he was hearing and seeing as the deputy head of British intelligence. | ||
| Grow up, people, and admit what's being discussed and wargamed, and see how you see fiction from 60 years ago that's now come true. | ||
| You need to grow up. | ||
| Bond movies are real. | ||
| If I understand correctly, he is saying, grow up! | ||
| This thing I saw as a child is real! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So also, Alex is greatly exaggerating Ian Fleming's intelligence career because he wants to give undeserved credibility to his unhinged worldview that movies are secretly whispering the future to him, and only Alex is smart enough to see it. | ||
| So the speech that Alex was playing from that movie, that was from Russia with Love, based on the novel of the same name, which was published in 1957. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I think the Bioweapon Bond movie that Alex is talking about is No Time to Die, which came out in 2021 and wasn't even based on a Fleming novel. | ||
| I suspect he's conflating the Bioweapon plot. | ||
| with the movie Moonraker, which involved Hugo Drax killing off humanity from a space station. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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That movie came out in 1979, and it's Very different from the 1955 Moonraker novel that Fleming actually wrote. | |
| For instance, there's no space base in the book. | ||
| That's just completely for the movie because Star Wars was a big hit in 1977 and the producers wanted to go to space. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But sure, everyone needs to grow up and recognize that Moonraker is real. | ||
| I might even go so far as to say it's possible Ian Fleming didn't know it was possible to get to the moon when that book was published. | ||
| You know what else? | ||
| What about the other plots of these movies? | ||
| No, they're all true. | ||
| What about Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? | ||
| Which plots are true and which aren't true, and why are each each? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, why would he write a completely different novel and be like, ha ha, this one's fake as shit? | ||
| Because it's just convenient for Alex and he thinks the Moonraker is like the movie, I guess. | ||
| Anyway, we need to get to the stars. | ||
| Alex expounds on that here a little bit. | ||
| We've got the enemy's operation. | ||
| We know how to beat them. | ||
| We need prosperity and open, transparent civilization. | ||
| We need team humanity to come together and expand the stars in giant, aggressive, highly dangerous off-world activity, undersea activity, and full exploitation of the planet for the good of all life. | ||
| We will green the stars if we can just get these people out of our way. | ||
| We're literally a terraforming operation God created for the universe. | ||
| We are the terraformers. | ||
| We are the farmers. | ||
| We are the builders made in the image of God, little creator G. What we envisioned 150 years ago is all reality now. | ||
| And the globalists know that secret. | ||
| So they hijack human development, human psyche, human dreams, and project it into their operations. | ||
| All right, so I've covered the World War III NATO news as more develops. | ||
| You certainly have. | ||
| Wait, was that covering the World War III NATO news? | ||
| This is part of it, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, because we gotta go to green, the stars. | ||
| Gotta go to the stars. | ||
| Now, I do think there's a little bit of putting the cart before the horse here. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Also, to fundamentally disagree with his premise. | ||
| Here's what I would prefer. | ||
| I would prefer a plan for how to terraform this planet. | ||
| Long before we get one to terraform another. | ||
| You just gotta exploit it. | ||
| I don't want that. | ||
| I don't want that at all. | ||
| That's what he's saying, though. | ||
| He's saying you gotta exploit all of the Earth. | ||
| So we could terraform the stars and turn them green. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I guess that would just be exploiting those things for a while, those stars for a while. | ||
| Yeah, for the good of humanity, though. | ||
| For the good of all life. | ||
| For the good of all. | ||
| Except for all of the life that would be killed on Earth by the... | ||
| Evil people love saying things are for the good of all. | ||
| It's crazy how often they do it. | ||
| Yeah, I think he's a little... | ||
| I mean, it sounds fun, sort of. | ||
| Like, hey, we're going to do dangerous space missions and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it's fun. | ||
| Just shut up. | ||
| Anyway, I thought that most of this episode was largely like, meh, all right, blowhard, whatever. | ||
| It was kind of like Operation Big Boy is a little fun, but all in all, it wasn't picking up steam until he said this. | ||
| That said, the stars have aligned. | ||
| I'm going to mention this. | ||
| I'm going to move on. | ||
| But I promise you, before the weekends, it's just a big task. | ||
| And I want to make it short and sweet and powerful. | ||
| But it's got to be done. | ||
| I was at dinner, or actually brunch, Sunday morning with my wife and my two younger daughters and my mother. | ||
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And... | |
| My mother, again, like every two years will tell me something she wants me to say. | ||
| You ruined our lives! | ||
| Great instincts. | ||
| And she's an amazing person, but she never gets my business. | ||
| Other than saying you're too fat, you need to exercise, and stuff like that. | ||
| Love you, Mom. | ||
| She looked at me across the table, and she said, what has been done to us in America with this Sandy Hook thing? | ||
| And how they set you up and what they've done, I want you to do a final word on it. | ||
| Not about what supposedly happened or didn't happen there 11 years ago, but on the process of the government and the media and the disinfo and what you actually said and what they said. | ||
| You need to put a chronicle out before they shut down Infowars because, as you know, there's a good chance it's going to happen. | ||
| So I immediately was like, uh-oh. | ||
| Last word about Sandy Hook. | ||
| He already made a video by that name that was featured heavily in the lawsuits against him. | ||
| So it harkens back to something that wasn't good. | ||
| His mom told him he needs to do this. | ||
| This is so fucked up. | ||
| As soon as he said this, I was like, this is going nowhere good. | ||
| I mean, I don't even know. | ||
| I wouldn't know how to respond. | ||
| Actually, you know what? | ||
| Here's how I would respond to that in the moment if I was in that conversation. | ||
| Obviously you need to do this. | ||
| There's just nothing else to say, right? | ||
| If he wanted to be a bad influence to him, that is what you would say. | ||
| I mean, there's just nothing else to say to him. | ||
| This is... | ||
| It's almost like it happened before we were born. | ||
| Like, the moment it was like, now is the time. | ||
| When it's way too late and I can only do damage to myself. | ||
| Wise counsel would probably say... | ||
| Don't do this. | ||
| Don't do this. | ||
| Just shut up. | ||
| You don't have to. | ||
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Move along. | |
| You don't have to. | ||
| There's no reason. | ||
| There's nothing, evidentiary-wise, nothing as good has come of you talking about Sandy Hook for anyone. | ||
| And you don't need to, like, save your pride here. | ||
| No! | ||
| There's none to be had! | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Just shut the fuck up about Sandy Hook. | ||
| Can't we all go to bed? | ||
| You're only gonna hurt people. | ||
| That's all you're gonna do. | ||
| But he goes on. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And this is confusing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I don't sit around with my parents, who I might see every week or two. | ||
| Probably see them every week and a half. | ||
| We don't sit around and talk about this. | ||
| We talk about our family, and we talk about, you know, my mom's big garden, all beautiful flowers and plants she's got. | ||
| We talk about, you know, trips we want to go on. | ||
| There's my mother saying, you need to expose all this. | ||
| Don't worry, Mom, I will. | ||
| But it's what they went ape crap over a little more than four weeks ago, almost five weeks ago. | ||
| I went on air and exposed what I believe was happening, what I was speculating. | ||
| Because 95% of the time, it's on record, I've given you my view, but 5% of the time I speculate. | ||
| That's what they really don't like, because I'm usually right. | ||
| And I explained with Pizzagate what really happened. | ||
| How it's in the... | ||
| WikiLeaks. | ||
| They confirm as real. | ||
| Aleister Crowley rituals. | ||
| Seven-year-olds being delivered to farmhouses in upstate New York for John Podesta and the Democrats for their, quote, entertainment. | ||
| That's in the WikiLeaks. | ||
| It's real emails. | ||
| And so they had the New York Times and CNN focus on a pizza place. | ||
| They didn't do fundraisers yet that did have weird Arnold walls, but didn't have a basement and they weren't raping kids there. | ||
| So we didn't cover that. | ||
| The media covered 4chan covering it. | ||
| We then covered 4chan and the media covering it, and they said we created it. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| You see? | ||
| So I was very confused, because I was like, all right, your mom wants you to put out a final statement on Sandy Hook, and here you are talking about how you were right about Pizzagate. | ||
| And, like, all this is delusional, too. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| I refer you back to Jack Posobiec almost crying in Comet Ping Pong Pizza and doing a groundbreaking interview with Owen Troyer. | ||
| Alex did not behave in the way that he wishes he could present here. | ||
| This is total rewriting of history and absolute bullshit. | ||
| My mom told me that it's time to set the record straight. | ||
| All right? | ||
| So I'm going to give you a long, convoluted explanation of how I was right about something else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to lie to you about how I was right about Pizza Cat. | ||
| Which I was not right. | ||
| Which I was not correct about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Making Mom proud here. | ||
| Let's do it as convoluted as possible, too. | ||
| I want to make sure that there are at least double negatives on top of double negatives. | ||
| So I was confused how this related to his final statement on Sandy Hook. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But he goes on, and I think I start to get a sense of what he means. | ||
| And I figured it out very quickly. | ||
| I was on a five-day vacation when the crew went ahead and covered it, and I'm blaming you. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| And I came back, and the crew's like, why are you going to cover up this pizza place? | ||
| And I said, it's a setup. | ||
| Like when a mockingbird, you get near its nest, it acts like its wings broken. | ||
| It falls to the ground to get the predator to go after it, and then it flies off. | ||
| They diverted us to that, and I said the same thing happened with Sandy Hook. | ||
| The police report. | ||
| The EMT reports. | ||
| You can look them up. | ||
| I'm going to put this in their piece. | ||
| Say when the police got there, they go in the bathroom, and there's a pile of dead children in a pyramid. | ||
| With no blood. | ||
| And the police report says we believe they've been moved there. | ||
| There was men in the woods on helicopter footage. | ||
| I was covering the real thing. | ||
| They picked a few operatives, a few professors, a few people. | ||
| They either worked for them or were mentally ill to create a narrative that didn't happen because it started coming out that it was something else. | ||
| Real kids died. | ||
| Adam Lanza was CIA. | ||
| That came out in the news. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| Adam Lanza's CIA. | ||
| The shooter. | ||
| Not me. | ||
| I didn't kill him. | ||
| You know my name. | ||
| You don't know his, do you? | ||
| And I explain that it looks like, because I was exposing what really happened, they then diverted off, I covered it, then they made me that guy, and the rest is history. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| See, I was listening to this, and I'm like, I can't believe you're saying this, because this is about what, like, could get you sued in the first place. | ||
| Like, this is directly against, like, you're maliciously causing harm to emotional distress to the victims and the families. | ||
| Ridiculous you would do this. | ||
| But then I was like, okay, I'm going to detach myself a tiny bit and try to understand what he's saying. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So what he's saying is that it was faked. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It was a false flag. | ||
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Yep. | |
| People actually died, but it was a false flag, and he was too close to the truth. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| So then the globalists had people like Wolfgang Halbig and Jim Fetzer come out and act crazy in order to discredit the truth that he was getting to the bottom of. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's insane. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's definitely that. | ||
| There's definitely that. | ||
| This, I have no idea why you would behave like this. | ||
| It's monstrous. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| I feel like it makes sense to me for some reason. | ||
| There's a certain part of me that gets into the headspace of somebody who believes, perhaps 100% correctly, that everything has been taken from him. | ||
| And he literally has nothing left to lose, despite the fact that he is still ridiculously wealthy and will face almost no consequence. | ||
| But he believes in his head that he has nothing left to lose. | ||
| They can't do anything more to me. | ||
| I owe them a billion dollars, right? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| All he has left is whether or not he believes he's a good person. | ||
| Well, at a certain point... | ||
| I do think you run into the potential of criminal charges. | ||
| That's what we're all hoping for. | ||
| Yeah, I think at a certain point you have to have some kind of contempt. | ||
| I don't know how it escalates, but it's like, you're just, what are you doing? | ||
| Eventually the legal system has to see what we see, which is that he's not going to stop on his own. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| There's no way for him to stop on his own. | ||
| He's doing this maliciously. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whether or not the primary goal is to hurt Sure. | ||
| Which is debatable. | ||
| That's the only effect of this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a part of it, too, that has like a, I control narratives. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| My business is controlling narratives. | ||
| And now I feel free enough in some way that I can reclaim the narrative about Sandy Hook. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, that is interesting. | ||
| Just stop it. | ||
| It's fascinating because 99.9999999% of the time, I am absolutely 100% certain debtor's prison is wrong. | ||
| But for some reason, I feel like maybe Alex should, until he pays off $1.5 billion, he's got to go to jail, man. | ||
| I can't justify that. | ||
| I'd be very opposed to that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I think at a certain point... | ||
| When you have had every luxury afforded to you to not hurt people and not behave in ways that are very clearly delineated out to you, this is why this is wrong. | ||
| Yep, big boy. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This is why this hurts people. | ||
| You need to fucking stop this. | ||
| At a certain point when you refuse to stop... | ||
| You are causing harm to people in a way that you can't be trusted to be arrested. | ||
| I don't know if that rises to the level of incarceration, but it just feels like what else is there to do now? | ||
| Whatever level it arises to is not for you and I to know. | ||
| That's not our deal, right? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We don't know that shit. | ||
| But watching this is bleak. | ||
| But what we do know, right, is that... | ||
| How about we do it Alex's style? | ||
| Grow up, eventually you have to say enough. | ||
| Sooner or later, you have to say enough. | ||
| We're learning a long list of things that haven't worked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't know if there's something that will work and he will finally understand the ramifications of his actions, but it's clearly not yet. | ||
| And that sucks. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Because... | |
| I mean, this goes on. | ||
| Within three days of me, five weeks ago, saying that, all hell broke loose and multiple lawyers and federal appointees from the Justice Department told the private security firm, you will shut the doors. | ||
| They said, we have no court order. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Then they tried it again. | ||
| And they said, because of what he said a few days ago, he's got to go off the air now. | ||
| The pressure's intense. | ||
| They're ordering us. | ||
| How do they order federal officials when they're just parties to a lawsuit? | ||
| That's what freaked them out. | ||
| That's why they panicked. | ||
| So, I remember Chris Maddy, the federal prosecutor, now, you know, Democrat Party lawyer, when he deposed me two years ago, in Connecticut for two days. | ||
| He goes, read this transcript. | ||
| And I'd read it years before, but I'd forgotten. | ||
| And I'm going to get the full video of that. | ||
| We have rights to it. | ||
| And I start reading the transcript of the police there, and I read the next page, and I go in the bathroom. | ||
| The door is blocked. | ||
| We force the door open. | ||
| There's a pile of children symmetrically arranged, and one from memory. | ||
| And there was no blood. | ||
| We believe they were removed there. | ||
| And he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, stop. | ||
| Don't, don't, don't, don't. | ||
| Take a break, take a break. | ||
| Like, he hadn't even read it. | ||
| Oh, wow, that sounds wild. | ||
| So I have that deposition. | ||
| You want to hear that passage? | ||
| Maybe we should go ahead and listen. | ||
| Because we just heard Alex's telling of it. | ||
| I mean, he owns it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has access to the tape, so... | ||
| Well, I certainly do. | ||
| Well, we both do. | ||
| We both know that. | ||
| We covered it in an episode. | ||
| Indeed we did. | ||
| But just to refresh your memory, this is grim and dark. | ||
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Yep. | |
| But because Alex is making these fucking claims about what happened in the deposition, here is a six and a half minute clip from that deposition. | ||
| I want you to read. | ||
| Beginning with this paragraph, I do not recall. | ||
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This is page 4 of 8. I do not recall if we regroup before proceeding. | |
| I do not recall if we regroup before proceeding, but my next memory is entering room 8. I just moved to the right counterclockwise and did not see anything. | ||
| Getting some distance around the room. | ||
| Reverse direction. | ||
| I moved down an aisle. | ||
| Along the south interior of the room. | ||
| As I did so, I observed the bodies of two adult females lying on the floor. | ||
| Near the west side of the room. | ||
| There was an open, partially open door. | ||
| The southwest corner of the room. | ||
| I initially thought this was a closet. | ||
| As I approached the door, I was initially unable to comprehend what I was looking at. | ||
| As I started to disbelieve, I recognized the face of a little boy on top of a pile. | ||
| The little boy was face up and was looking at a profile of the left side of his face. | ||
| The top of his head to the west. | ||
| I do not recall the position of the body. | ||
| I then began to realize that there was other children around the little boy. | ||
| It was actually a pile of dead children. | ||
| I was able to recall specific images, but I recall that many had horrific injuries. | ||
| Other than the two dead adult females, there was no obvious signs of blood or tissue around the room. | ||
| My first impression was that the children had been killed elsewhere and hidden in the bathroom. | ||
| The face of the little boy was the only specific image that I got in the room. | ||
| I did not recall my actions in the first room. | ||
| Hey, I recall. | ||
| So it was blacked out. | ||
| So I exited the room and also that my handgun was holstered at the time. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| I wish I read that. | ||
| That sounds weird. | ||
| No blood. | ||
| So real quick, I'm going to pause it here because if you watch the video of this, Alex's eyebrows go up when he reads this as if like, oh shit, I can work with this. | ||
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Yep. | |
| There's a moment in the deposition where you can see almost excitement about this. | ||
| Now, this is something that came up in the Texas depositions as well. | ||
| This passage from Bill Cario's police report. | ||
| And Alex is saying that there was no blood. | ||
| But what he was saying in the report is outside of the two adults, the classroom, there wasn't more blood. | ||
| There was plenty of blood where the kids were. | ||
| You don't have to worry about that. | ||
| Alex has had that explained to him. | ||
| He knows this. | ||
| He understands this. | ||
| He is exploiting this. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Stepping out of room 8, I observed the rooms in the east were being evacuated. | ||
| There were police officers in both directions. | ||
| I decided that my services were best utilized if I worked with EMS capacity. | ||
| Others worked to clear the building. | ||
| I have been active in EMS Rescue Association. | ||
| I have held a certificate of EMT for 32 years. | ||
| You read this. | ||
| When this report came out in late 2013, correct? | ||
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Objection? | |
| Objection. | ||
| I think I even, yeah, that's pretty weird that there was no, they didn't see blood. | ||
| Because, I mean, I've done a lot of hunting, you know, deer and stuff for, like, mammals, the same thing, you know, similar. | ||
| A lot of, I mean, that was the interesting part there at the top. | ||
| Again, I'm not saying this report's even fraudulent, just with... | ||
| Dr. Frederick Whitehurst, one of the head guys at the FBI Crime Lab, saying that he knew people were just basically framing thousands of people. | ||
| That's where more of the, you know, a lot of the confidence is lost in government reports. | ||
| That's why it's normal to question them. | ||
| You're saying that you read this at the time and questioned... | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
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I remember saying that. | |
| ...that you read this report of Bill Perio at the time and... | ||
| It caused you to suspect that this was further evidence of there being a hoax because he did not report the presence of blood. | ||
| Can I read that again, please? | ||
| No, I'm asking the question. | ||
| I'll have to read it again. | ||
| I thought that was just interesting. | ||
| Well, you just testified just now as you were reading this that, hmm, isn't that weird? | ||
| And you said that... | ||
| You were surprised. | ||
| He said he was surprised. | ||
| You're saying that in what you just read, Sergeant Cario said that he was surprised about what? | ||
| I'd have to look at it again. | ||
| I can't remember everything I read. | ||
| I can't see it again. | ||
| He says, I am unable to recall specific images. | ||
| But I recall that many had horrific injuries, correct? | ||
| Other than the two adult, the two dead adult females, there was no obvious signs of blood or tissue around the room. | ||
| And my first impression was that the children had been killed elsewhere and hidden in the bathroom. | ||
| So he says, other than where the two adult females were. | ||
| You didn't see blood in that area, correct? | ||
| Do you know where the children were found? | ||
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And that's where you'd expect. | |
| Are you suggesting here and reading this, are you still trying to maintain for some reason that you think this report is further evidence of suspicion because you think that Sergeant Kerrio didn't adequately describe the presence of blood? | ||
| Is that what you're doing here? | ||
| He said he was surprised. | ||
| And that's what a lot of people... | ||
| I remember that got discussed vaguely, that a lot of people said, okay, but there weren't... | ||
| Who said it? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| He said he was surprised. | ||
| And I'm sorry, I'm surprised too. | ||
| Surprised at what? | ||
| I mean, if people have giant bullet holes in them, they're killed there, there's blood all over the place. | ||
| And maybe there is. | ||
| All I'm saying is that's the kind of stuff people cherry pick. | ||
| And that's what gets in people's heads, was being honest. | ||
| Were you being honest when you read this, that Sergeant Cario was an EMT and was working as an EMT in the building, when after you claimed that there were no EMTs in the building? | ||
| Was that honest? | ||
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Objection. | |
| I'm just, I'm confused. | ||
| I was going off earlier reports when people said. | ||
| I'm just saying that's very interesting, and he was surprised. | ||
| Mr. Jones, you said in 2017 that no EMTs were allowed in the building, right? | ||
| Do you agree with me that clearly there were? | ||
| Objection. | ||
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Objection. | |
| He was surprised by the way the children looked like they'd been placed there. | ||
| Sergeant Carrier was surprised if the children had been placed there. | ||
| He said it looked like he thought someone had placed them there. | ||
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No. | |
| He said, Mr. Jones, that his first impression was that the children had been killed elsewhere. | ||
| That would be placed there. | ||
| That would be placed there. | ||
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If they were killed elsewhere, they'd have to be placed there. | |
| This is not going anywhere. | ||
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Objection. | |
| We're tired and we're... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| This can stay. | ||
| This can stay in. | ||
| So that is a little different than the way Alex characterized it. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| I don't think Chris Maddy freaked out and was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Your stupid interpretation is too scary for me. | ||
| He didn't say that shit. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Alex is just trying to spin these fucking yarns because he doesn't give a shit. | ||
| It's shocking. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| It's terrifying to see, honestly. | ||
| I mean, you said it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What else? | ||
| I can't... | ||
| I can't... | ||
| Put it any more bluntly than just playing that clip from the deposition. | ||
| After his characterization of it, you can see exactly what happened. | ||
| He didn't play that clip from the deposition. | ||
| Oh, but he's the guy who obsessively plays clips. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, Alex might be killed because he's on to the real Sandy Hook conspiracy now. | ||
| Finally! | ||
| And then I remember all the other weirdness. | ||
| We turned that in in Discovery, the clips of the news, the helicopters with the men in camo in the woods, and they freaked out about it. | ||
| And I remember the judge in Texas saying, I'm going to default you. | ||
| You didn't put that in Discovery about the men in the woods. | ||
| I went, well, we did. | ||
| They were like, men in woods? | ||
| Did you stop talking about that? | ||
| I was too dense to go. | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| You're saying I said it didn't happen. | ||
| It was men in woods. | ||
| So we now have figured it out. | ||
| I mean, who knows? | ||
| I may be driving home today and they claim a carjacker kills me in a red light. | ||
| I mean, folks, the CIA is running this. | ||
| They've been caught on video admitting it with the FBI head in Connecticut at the time. | ||
| And when I talk about men in the woods and piles of dead kids with no blood, baby, they go bonker town. | ||
| So no matter what happens to me, In fact, I'm telling the researchers, guys, get me the police reports that are finally made public. | ||
| They try to suppress them. | ||
| They suppressed them for six years. | ||
| I want the police reports. | ||
| I want the EMT reports. | ||
| I want it all. | ||
| We have now figured out what happened and how we got set up. | ||
| And Joe Rogan, a few days ago, talked about his own understanding how I got set up. | ||
| And so the internet and the population, because we're the real AI, billions of us together, we are figuring out what really happened here. | ||
| Yeah, by all means, rope Joe Rogan into this. | ||
| I'm sure he's going to love the outcome of that. | ||
| You dumb asshole. | ||
| Like, this idea that people went bonker town, it's because you're hurting these people. | ||
| This is, like, of course people would be very offended by you still trafficking in these theories after they have been disproven, debunked, explained, and you've had to go through a years-long process where people tried to explain to you why it was bad what you're doing. | ||
| Like, this is, of course, of course, if you get sued over all this shit. | ||
| And then every measure through the civil court system, the bankruptcy system, has gone through, and you're still like, hey, why is there no blood? | ||
| Like, of course people are going to be like, shut him down! | ||
| What the fuck is this? | ||
| Bonkertown. | ||
| Yeah, I'm trying to focus on positives. | ||
| None! | ||
| Right? | ||
| And that is, there is one positive, alright? | ||
| And that positive is that because... | ||
| We covered these depositions. | ||
| Norm Pattis had to pay $30,000. | ||
| So I'm focusing on that. | ||
| Like, hey, that's good. | ||
| It's a bright spot. | ||
| It's a thing that happened. | ||
| So if you're going to do the deposition where you remember listening to this horrifying human being be horrifying, remember that we cost $30,000. | ||
| Yeah, there's some billable hours in there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Alex is really latching on to this no blood thing. | ||
| And it's gross. | ||
| And so I'll be honest with you. | ||
| I don't know what really happened, but we need congressional investigations. | ||
| We need statewide investigations. | ||
| We need hearings on why does the report say there's a pile of dead kids in the bathroom, they've got to force the door open, there's no blood. | ||
| Because you shoot somebody, there's blood everywhere. | ||
| Never shot people, but I've shot wild hogs and deer and bobcats and... | ||
| Well, I've just shot a lot of things. | ||
| People? | ||
| Mountain goats. | ||
| Trying to imply that. | ||
| It's not the fun of killing something. | ||
| It's the fun of shooting something 800 yards right in the chest, putting the back of the Jeep, taking it, cutting it up, and barbecuing it. | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
| But what I'm getting at here is that you shoot something, blood goes everywhere with a rifle. | ||
| Police go there and they go, there's a pile of dead kids, and they can't get around a pile of dead children. | ||
| Hey, you sick fuck. | ||
| You're talking about denying these children's murder. | ||
| And where your brain goes is, I like killing animals. | ||
| It feels good to shoot something in the chest and then eat it. | ||
| Why is this the, like, his brain is so fucked. | ||
| You know, here's my pitch, okay? | ||
| Here's my pitch, alright? | ||
| What we do... | ||
| Is we play this for the bankruptcy judge. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So we play this clip for the bankruptcy judge. | ||
| And it's worse in its entirety. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure it is. | ||
| I guarantee you, if you listen to this whole stretch, I can't do it justice just by playing selective clips. | ||
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I believe you. | |
| My jaw was on the floor. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| So we play it for the bankruptcy judge, okay? | ||
| And here's all we have to say. | ||
| Like, hey, bankruptcy judge, you have not done a good job so far. | ||
| All right? | ||
| What do you think of that? | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| That's fine, because now you've got a second chance. | ||
| But let me tell you this. | ||
| I'm going to play this video for you, and if you fuck this up moving forward, you have no idea how little people are going to believe in the legal system after this. | ||
| It's like, this is inevitably the outcome that everybody said was going to happen. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We said it! | ||
| Alex can't not do this. | ||
| Can't not! | ||
| Whether it's compulsion or business motivation or whatever. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Or oppositional defiance. | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| He's a big boy, but he can't help himself. | ||
| Everybody knew that this was the ultimate outcome. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I'm shocked it's this fast. | ||
| I'm shocked. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it is. | ||
| It's almost nice of him, honestly, to have like, well, at least we got it out of the way pretty quick. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's still a long time, but I thought it would be five more years before he's like, you know what? | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I was right about San Diego. | ||
| I was right about all of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the judge, when they raised him, they said he's talking about San Diego. | ||
| He goes, he has a First Amendment. | ||
| Come on wherever he wants. | ||
| But I didn't say go pee on kids' graves. | ||
| I didn't say go to parents' houses. | ||
| I never did any of that. | ||
| And no one ever did that. | ||
| They just made that up, the media, the Democratic Party. | ||
| But what I did say is there's a pile of dead bodies in the bathroom. | ||
| The cops got a forced door open. | ||
| It's in the police report. | ||
| It's in the EMT report. | ||
| Why don't you want that discussed? | ||
| Now I understand. | ||
| Now I got your number. | ||
| And I don't know what they're going to do now, because the last time I spent three minutes on this and just mentioned it, Broke loose. | ||
| Like I hit an open nerve with salt. | ||
| For folks that don't know, I'm putting salt in a nerve. | ||
| That's what causes the pain. | ||
| That's like the worst pain. | ||
| Got an open nerve, put a piece of salt on it. | ||
| So I'm not that smart, but I've been doing a lot of stuff for 30 years. | ||
| So you kind of figure stuff out when you're in this and you figure out like a B-17 bomber in World War II before radar was deployed. | ||
| They invented it, but it wasn't deployed. | ||
| It was deployed on the British coast, but it wasn't, you know, deployed across Europe. | ||
| They didn't, they had rough maps and how fast they're flying and following topography and they're trying to hit German, you know, factories and troop formations. | ||
| They learned wherever the anti-aircraft was shooting at them, that was where the target was, so you flew into the flag. | ||
| Well, that's what I do. | ||
| I'm like, well, I'm sure as hell getting attacked for this. | ||
| And I think I'm like everybody else. | ||
| You attack me. | ||
| When I'm over the target, you think I go away because of the pain. | ||
| I go towards the pain. | ||
| But I couldn't figure out what was going on. | ||
| Like, I'm a Sandy Hook guy. | ||
| I go pee on graves. | ||
| What is this, years after I barely covered it? | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| What did I do? | ||
| What did I say? | ||
| I was on the trail of what really happened, the other shooters. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I was on the right track, and that's why all this happened. | ||
| I don't believe that Alex is this dense. | ||
| I don't believe he's this stupid. | ||
| I have to, like, it feels like he's trying to get taken off air, right? | ||
| I mean, it feels like that was my first thought. | ||
| I'm not sure I stand behind that. | ||
| But it feels like, okay, look, there were, like, severe consequences the last time. | ||
| I did Sandy Hook stuff. | ||
| So I'm gonna go really hard in that direction. | ||
| InfoWars is a vestigial organ for me at this point. | ||
| If they shut it down, great. | ||
| Dr. Jones Naturals is where the money's at. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Just end it. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I feel like that's what he wants. | ||
| I feel... | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| I feel like that's probably the move he's got? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like what... | ||
| You know, like... | ||
| You know, I was just thinking about him being like, ah, they're going to say that it was some carjacker at his red stoplight. | ||
| And I was just like, man, the only way that Alex can die is in old age and obscurity or in a patriot lore way, right? | ||
| If he just dies of a regular-ass accident, then it's going to be a mess forever and ever and ever, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, if... | ||
| InfoWars is just shut down like the lights just get turned off. | ||
| No, that's why he did that day-long stream when he was hoping to be taken off air so he could scream Dr. Jones Naturals while he's being dragged off set. | ||
| He wants that sort of... | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| And I think he's trying to court that with this. | ||
| That's what it feels like. | ||
| But I'm just interpreting what I see his behavior as being. | ||
| There's another reality where he's just like, doesn't fucking matter anymore. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, to your earlier point, like, oh, I received bad consequences when I did this the last time. | ||
| That's part of the problem with, that's why the bankruptcy judge needs to see this. | ||
| To be like, buddy, he didn't receive consequences yet. | ||
| You've got the, it's you. | ||
| You've got to take the ball, you know? | ||
| He believes that consequences are a sign of his virtue. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's difficult. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta take the ball and go score, buddy! | ||
| So it turns out Sandy Hook apparently was fake. | ||
| Now Alex is comfortable just, I guess, retreading this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So why do you care that I just, five weeks ago, just said, you know, I think I figured this out. | ||
| This is what I think's going on. | ||
| We need to... | ||
| Oh, get him out the air right now! | ||
| Oh, my God! | ||
| He's got to go out the air right now! | ||
| No, do not look at kids. | ||
| Do not look at dead piles of kids. | ||
| Do not look at what's in the bathroom. | ||
| Do not talk about it. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| No. | ||
| God, no. | ||
| Do not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Please. | ||
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No. | |
| Stop. | ||
| Just shut up. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Methinks you protest too much. | ||
| It's like cops in your car. | ||
| They pull you over. | ||
| There's marijuana smoke. | ||
| Everybody looks all methed out. | ||
| The cops are like, where are you going? | ||
| What you doing? | ||
| Been drinking? | ||
| Mind about looking in the glove compartment? | ||
| No, no, no, no, don't do that! | ||
| Cops are like, I'm getting a warrant. | ||
| Open the glove compartment, methamphetamine. | ||
| It's like, oh! | ||
| Kids didn't die. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| Alex Jones said that. | ||
| Alex Jones is dying. | ||
| And Alex Jones is peeing on graves. | ||
| Alex Jones is attacking families. | ||
| I'm like, I just said maybe people were right. | ||
| Maybe it didn't happen. | ||
| You know, Operation North was planning to crash planes that never crashed and blow planes that never got blown up. | ||
| I said, yeah, it could happen. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Oh, my God, you're the worst. | ||
| Because they wanted to make it about that. | ||
| But as soon as I'm like, hey, what about the pile of dead kids with no blood? | ||
| Ah! | ||
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No! | |
| Now. | ||
| Now. | ||
| Oh, Adam Lanza and the CIA. | ||
| Touch that! | ||
| Oh, you know the calls are getting made right now. | ||
| The alarms are going off. | ||
| Like it's an air raid siren right now. | ||
| Because all the evidence points towards the Democrats all over this, Obama all over this, their whole re-election campaign off of this. | ||
| Everything with them is about this. | ||
| This is their big event to get the guns and get the First Amendment and get everything. | ||
| And so, what are we going to do? | ||
| Jones is poking around. | ||
| There was an anti-terror drill, a mass shooting drill. | ||
| Men in the woods, helicopters picked them up on the news. | ||
| We have the footage. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| Just have some of our lunatics go out and say it didn't happen and pump them, give them huge attention. | ||
| Jones will go cover it. | ||
| Then we'll blame him for it. | ||
| It'll work like hell. | ||
| Bam, we did it. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| As Mark Twain said, a lie goes halfway around the world before the truth puts its pants on, but in the end, the truth will win. | ||
| Wow, you solved the mystery, you piece of shit. | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| There's no other way to respond to this than just, I can't believe it. | ||
| I can't believe he's doing this. | ||
| You know, part of my... | ||
| A horrible person. | ||
| Part of... | ||
| You know, when I found the Daft Punk concert, one of the concerts that I had listened to just a few concerts before that was Kendrick, was the LA party. | ||
| I was listening to Not Like Us, and you know that part in any great song where if you're watching it live, the artist can just put his mic out, you know? | ||
| And then the whole crowd, not just the people who like the song, the whole crowd sings it. | ||
| I feel exactly like that because I feel like what just happened was I pointed the mic at our audience and they screamed so loud I could hear it and I didn't say anything. | ||
| I heard all of them screaming. | ||
| I did. | ||
| I can feel nothing but. | ||
| I mean, it is like, if you still need me after listening to that, I don't know how to make you emotional. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you need me to re-explain these details about why Alex's theories about Sandy Hook are full of shit, then you don't need... | ||
| What am I doing here? | ||
| In a positive way. | ||
| In the most positive way I can think of this, right? | ||
| I wish there were a god who would just be like, cool, buddy, and then take him to heaven. | ||
| Smite. | ||
| Have him have the best day. | ||
| He goes up to heaven in a golden circle of light, and we all know he's happy forever, and that's fine, so long as he is not in this room. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's, uh... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it's hard to even process. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| How a person can, uh... | ||
| Find it within themselves to do this. | ||
| I mean, I feel like if I were a psychopath, I would be like, man, this guy's amazing. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, I feel like... | ||
| He's breaking new ground. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| I don't agree with a lot of what he's saying, but you've got to admire him for the way he does it. | ||
| The craft. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The commitment to the craft of being a shithead. | ||
| It's just amazing. | ||
| Yeah, a psychopath has to look at this in just awe. | ||
| So you remember, obviously, Alex talked to Elon Musk for a while. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And he said, like, oh, yeah. | ||
| The PR firm was behind this. | ||
| And then Elon Musk was like, hey, what's that PR firm? | ||
| And Alex said, I don't know. | ||
| I'll look it up. | ||
| I'll look it up. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| And then we found out what it was by context clues from what Alex was talking about. | ||
| He still doesn't remember now. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| They live off me. | ||
| They had PR firms going, say I sell these. | ||
| And Elon Musk, when I was in a two and a half hour interview with him months ago, I said a PR firm did this. | ||
| They bragged me. | ||
| He said, what's the name? | ||
| And I said, I can't remember. | ||
| He goes, get it to me. | ||
| And I never did that. | ||
| Don't worry, Elon Musk. | ||
| You're going to get the report with the PR firm. | ||
| It's going to be, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. | ||
| Look, I got World War III news. | ||
| I got Biden not knowing what planet he's on, Operation Big Boy. | ||
| I got federal officials saying they're going to censor all Americans. | ||
| I got it all. | ||
| I got their ass. | ||
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| Why would they order federal officials and say, the federal officials, we've been given orders by the Sandy Hook people to shut you down after what you said, what you said last week! | ||
| You said kids died! | ||
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You said there was a pile of dead bodies in the police report with no blood, which is in there! | |
| You, you, you, you shut up right now! | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| And now you know the rest of the story, as Paul Harvey would say. | ||
| I don't know exactly what went on, the groups, all of it, but it's got federal globeless fingerprints all over it. | ||
| I know the persecution on myself and the First Amendment was run by the feds. | ||
| They admit that. | ||
| It's come out in court. | ||
| They testified to it. | ||
| They hid it in plain view. | ||
| They're probably like, what do we do about it coming out? | ||
| The FBI ran this with the CIA. | ||
| Well, we'll just testify it in court and hide it in plain view. | ||
| Make it no big deal. | ||
| So, you're the director of the FBI in Connecticut. | ||
| Yes, I was at the time. | ||
| And so where'd these lawsuits came from? | ||
| Well, Mr. Jones was a bad person. | ||
| Well, what happened to you? | ||
| Well, one guy called me once to see if I was an FBI agent. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Well, you got $130 million. | ||
| Well, what was it like? | ||
| Well, I went to the Costco law firm, running the Democratic Party, and I organized all this. | ||
| I mean, again, they think you're stupid. | ||
| You're not stupid. | ||
| You're busy. | ||
| You're distracted. | ||
| But now you know that we're not getting the official story. | ||
| The real story. | ||
| We're getting the official story. | ||
| But to me, the official story is reality. | ||
| So Alex is attacking William Aldenberg directly and feel like he's probably putting a target on him in some way. | ||
| Probably inappropriate. | ||
| Seems like these are the kind of behaviors you would hope to curb through lawsuits. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that is kind of... | ||
| That's kind of where we're at, you know? | ||
| Like, if that's what you... | ||
| Like, I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| If that's the system we live in and that's what we got, then it was exhausted and here we are. | ||
| He gets to say it. | ||
| You know, it is almost like I think he gets to say it now. | ||
| I think he gets to do whatever he wants because the system failed. | ||
| I don't think that he gets to. | ||
| No, you understand what I mean when I say gets to, but you know what I mean? | ||
| It's shocking. | ||
| If no one is going to stop him, then yeah, I guess go for it. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I can't understand not stopping yourself. | ||
| I can't understand not stopping your fucking self. | ||
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| Because Alex, if he has any presence of mind or he's not a completely detached from reality person, which he is because he goes about his life and... | ||
| The way he does, yeah. | ||
| He's had to have so many things brought to his attention about the reality of Sandy Hook and what people went through. | ||
| For instance, Scarlett Lewis being able to testify to him, to his face while he was in the courtroom. | ||
| He has to know the impact that these theories have had and his behaviors have had. | ||
| He has to know what these people have gone through. | ||
| And from a decency perspective, you would think, okay. | ||
| Dodged a bullet in a large part on the lawsuit front. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like the Dukes of Hazzard, I managed to get away from this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| I eluded consequences. | ||
| But I have learned that this hurts people. | ||
| I, in an effort to be a better person, don't want to put these people through this. | ||
| You would think that he would stop himself. | ||
| Because this is insane. | ||
| You know, I mean... | ||
| The thought process, though, I'm not trying to know anything, but it makes a certain kind of sense. | ||
| If you think about it from the angle of, like, me first. | ||
| Me overall first. | ||
| So if you think about it that way, right, then what's most important to me, if I'm me first, is thinking I'm a good person. | ||
| I am a good person. | ||
| Now, if I am... | ||
| Demonstrably a monster. | ||
| Then what does my brain have to do? | ||
| It has to either accept that I am not what I am. | ||
| It has to turn the actions of a monster into a good person. | ||
| Or it has to turn the actions of a monster into a good person. | ||
| And I think we all live with some level of that. | ||
| You know? | ||
| We all live with some level of being able to throw a basketball at a hoop. | ||
| But Alex Jones is the LeBron James of lying to yourself about how you're a good person. | ||
| I... | ||
| yeah. | ||
| Can't put it better myself. | ||
| I mean, so here is some more bullshit. | ||
| The problem is there's too much evidence of weirdness. | ||
| And again, I'm going to tell you, I don't know. | ||
| It's like playing Clue or something. | ||
| Like, I don't know what the hell happened. | ||
| I don't know why they did this to me. | ||
| I don't understand all the angles of it. | ||
| I just don't know how to do the things they said. | ||
| And then they totally go apeshit when I bring up pile of dead bodies with no blood. | ||
| It's in the damn police report. | ||
| They're going to sue me for that. | ||
| It's in the damn police report. | ||
| And they're like, no, you need to back off of that right now. | ||
| No, I'm not going to now. | ||
| Maybe the whole show now should just... | ||
| Because I'm going to get it all together. | ||
| I'll show you the transcripts. | ||
| I'll get the Chris Maddy deposition with me where I'm reading it. | ||
| And then he completely flips out. | ||
| You've seen them put the clips out they want on national TV, but they don't want this clip out. | ||
| And then I opened the door, it was hard to open, and went in and the children were piled in a rude pyramid. | ||
| What? | ||
| A pyramid, there appeared to be no blood, and it appeared the children had been moved and stacked there deliberately. | ||
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| What? | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna stop now. | ||
| This is just mind-blowing. | ||
| So we heard the clip from the deposition that Alex is misrepresenting, but this whole no-blood thing. | ||
| I'm just gonna read this from Bill Cario's police report, which is the same source that Alex is claiming to get his no-blood claim from. | ||
| As we ran across the parking lot with the children, I began to realize that my uniform was soiled with blood and tissue from room number 8. I didn't want the children or parents to recognize this, and I broke away from the group. | ||
| As I walked back toward the school, I passed a triage station. | ||
| I asked EMS personnel for a towel to wipe my uniform. | ||
| Several just stared at my uniform, but one stepped up with a towel to help me clean myself. | ||
| Alex is an absolute monster, and he has every reason to know that what he's saying is a load of bullshit. | ||
| And the only effect that this is going to cause at all is causing these family members more distress. | ||
| He is so full of shit. | ||
| I have zero idea why he's doing this. | ||
| And to make it worse, he said it's his mom's idea. | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| This is one of the sicker twists, I think, that the show has taken in a long time. | ||
| This is just indefensible on a hundred levels. | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| I mean, we're just past the point of, you know, I suppose it's time for Operation Big Boy, okay? | ||
| We need to put on our Big Boy pants and deal with this fucking problem because this is ridiculous. | ||
| It's ironic that Operation Big Boy was discussed in this. | ||
| Yeah, entirely about Alex Jones. | ||
| So they're really scared of him covering Sandy Hook. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And by scared, what it actually means is it really hurts people. | ||
| And you're a monster, and you suck. | ||
| But they're scared. | ||
| So, I'll say it again. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| But they don't want us looking into this area for a reason. | ||
| And they're scared. | ||
| And they're freaked out. | ||
| And they tried to lock the doors with federal officials outside of a court order illegally out of total desperation because I covered it for three minutes as a side issue. | ||
| But that's how you learn what they're scared of. | ||
| They're so mad I said kids died now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, I get it, because I'm the guy that said they didn't see, which I was the guy that just covered people saying that. | ||
| All right, we're going to go to break. | ||
| Please remember, we can't do this historical operation without you. | ||
| We have a huge shell going at Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| If Infowars gets shut down, this may be the last time you ever get it. | ||
| You're a real piece of shit. | ||
| Just a real piece of shit. | ||
| I was, here's what I'm thinking, right? | ||
| So, like, I listened to that, and my first instinct, especially that last clip, was to be like, I just, we've already, we know enough, you know? | ||
| We don't need to hear this anymore. | ||
| And then my next thought was, if we hadn't heard this, all of us. | ||
| Would have assumed at some level, of some amount, Alex has slowed down or stopped this specific thing. | ||
| I would assume it was beneath him. | ||
| Yeah, we... | ||
| Would live in a world where we did not know the depths of this simply because we just assumed that it wasn't that bad. | ||
| I wouldn't think this shit was possible, that he would do this. | ||
| We wouldn't think this shit is possible. | ||
| He's proven that I don't know enough about Alex Jones, quite frankly, because I would have thought he would know at least, like, this is territory where I'm not going to dance around anymore. | ||
| Yeah, I do feel like maybe this is true of everything. | ||
| What you want to believe is going on is when you stop paying attention. | ||
| And then whatever happens, you know, like, that's kind of, that's what I'm saying, you know? | ||
| Like, why not do this? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Well, consequences are yet to be seen. | ||
| This might end up blowing up in his face somehow. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I want that. | ||
| We all want consequences for action. | ||
| But ironically, Alex might too. | ||
| I think he does! | ||
| I think we all are finally agreeing that the legal system is failing everyone! | ||
| He seems to be courting the legal system to be like, alright. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I dare you guys to have the balls to fucking... | ||
| He is definitely talking to the courts a little bit. | ||
| I mean, whatever. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| They get to do whatever they want. | ||
| They're so fucking afraid of me talking about Sandy Hook. | ||
| Come and get my products. | ||
| I mean, I would say they're afraid of him, but not for that. | ||
| Not for that. | ||
| So, Alex, of course, we've got the Infowars store. | ||
| We've got a lot of things there. | ||
| He also has Dr. Jones Naturals. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| Dr. Jones Natural is going to be a bit better? | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex has a bunch of different companies, apparently. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Be laying in bed all day and do nothing, you know you're going to lose. | ||
| But if you engage the enemy for decades and decades, or even a month, you're going to see a whole world open up to you. | ||
| But I can't take on these organized tyrants without your support. | ||
| I need your prayer, I need your word of mouth, and I need you to go to drjonesnaturals.com and get great products right now, because that's separate from Enforce. | ||
| They shut Infowars, D.R. Jones is still there. | ||
| And they're like, oh, we'll just shut that faucet down. | ||
| I got a hundred more lined up, but that's my daddy and he's got great products. | ||
| I ain't going nowhere, New World Order, and I've got your number. | ||
| I've got your name. | ||
| I've got your ass! | ||
| I think Alex got a little bit too excited gloating there and is indicating that he has a lot of plans in place to commit fraud in case the businesses that he is funneling money through end up becoming the target of an investigation. | ||
| And it'll be a real... | ||
| Tragedy if, you know, those became obvious ahead of time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe you should be more careful. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to throw this out. | ||
| I'm going to throw this out at you. | ||
| A lot of people, you and I both, you know, grew up in the Midwest with the young life, with the youth pastors, with the conversations. | ||
| Why does God let blank happen? | ||
| We've had those conversations, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Why doesn't he blank lightning bolt? | ||
| That kind of stuff. | ||
| I would put it this way. | ||
| I think from what I know of the Bible, God is far more pissed off at people who are that proud and that defiant of consequences. | ||
| That was way more important to him than any tragedies whatsoever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a bit of, as Alex would say, hubris in saying, I have hundreds more of these fake businesses. | ||
| Hubris is like the thing God is pissed at the most. | ||
| Yeah, but God, when he gave him... | ||
| That vision when he was a kid, he told him, you're cool on that one. | ||
| You can be hubris. | ||
| That's totally fine. | ||
| I mean, this God guy has got to really figure shit out. | ||
| So someone who has it all figured out. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Chase Geyser. | ||
| So this episode sucks. | ||
| Thank God for Chase coming in. | ||
| We needed a little bit of something else here at the end after Alex decides fucking Sandy Hook is... | ||
| Fucking Sandy Hook is fair game again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So we got Chase Geyser coming in. | ||
| They're going to do some Twitter spaces. | ||
| George Papadopoulos calls in, apparently. | ||
| That was weird. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| We're not going to listen to any of that, but I thought it was funny because it's like, even if you believe that Russia stuff was all a hoax, you still should think George Papadopoulos is fucking stupid. | ||
| Even if you're a denier of everything, he's an idiot. | ||
| But they talked to him for like half an hour. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| But here's a little chase. | ||
| You know, it's interesting because I follow NATO on X, and I'm always incredibly triggered by the content that they post because it's just propaganda after propaganda after propaganda. | ||
| Yesterday, I noticed that while they were showing a compilation, a montage of clips of tanks and helicopters and bombers and munitions and world leader after world leader who has called for war with Russia. | ||
| over the course of the last several years now they had this hopeful optimistic music in the background in this message I can't remember the exact way that they phrased it in their post but this message about how NATO has been responsible for 75 years of peace and it's been this greatest thing when the fact of the matter is it's been responsible for some of the greatest escalations of all and And in recent years, having seen the way that this has been playing out with... | ||
| With Russia and this Ukraine conflict, it begs the question whether or not NATO was ever a good thing to begin with. | ||
| It begs the question whether or not the Cold War was ever actually a legitimate threat to begin with. | ||
| It seems to me now obvious that it's very likely the military-industrial complex and the intelligence community intentionally created or manifested the notion of the Cold War in order to justify increased spending so that they could line their own policies Yeah, man, Chase has become so anti-NATO that maybe the Cold War was an exaggeration. | ||
| Maybe the commies weren't so bad. | ||
| Everything that Infowars is based on is anti-communist nonsense that's a holdover from John Birch Society shit and the Cold War. | ||
| This is so crazy. | ||
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| Maybe the commies weren't such a big deal because I don't like NATO. | ||
| He doesn't even realize how stupid this is on this show. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It feels like Chase is... | ||
| It feels like Chase is a bad dog. | ||
| Like, I don't necessarily want this to be, like, something that follows me around. | ||
| But I do feel like I bet sometimes for Chase, if you hit him with a rolled-up newspaper, he would stop believing things. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I wonder about object permanence for him. | ||
| Like, it's just... | ||
| I think if you were just like, hey! | ||
| Stop following NATO! | ||
| It would go away. | ||
| He wouldn't even know NATO existed anymore. | ||
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Why are you following NATO? | |
| You're insane! | ||
| Why are you... | ||
| One, I didn't know NATO had a Twitter account. | ||
| I kind of assumed. | ||
| You would assume. | ||
| Two, stop it, NATO. | ||
| I mean, I just think it is probably illustrative and maybe a good lesson to learn that you can take one thought, which is... | ||
| Fuck NATO. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And you can go so far with it that you end up sort of kicking your own ass and being like, maybe the Cold War was all hype. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just, I don't know. | ||
| It's a circle. | ||
| I mean, you know, how about this? | ||
| That might be a test. | ||
| Maybe we should try that out. | ||
| Maybe that's like a geometric proof, you know, where we need to keep trying different possible solutions to make sure that this one's actually a law. | ||
| But I do feel like maybe if what you believe can be, like, kicked so far that you don't believe it anymore on a straight line. | ||
| Invalidate the underpinnings of literally everything. | ||
| Everything you've ever believed? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You probably don't believe it, or it probably doesn't make sense. | ||
| Nah, you're probably dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex rants a little bit here about how everything in the world is black and white. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And this is just stupid. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| And we have a corrupt, decadent elite that sold the country out seven ways a Sunday. | ||
| They think being sociopathic is cool. | ||
| They think not. | ||
| It's like a dune when the Benny Jesuit says, she says, you picked the wrong side. | ||
| She goes, there is no sides. | ||
| All there is is sides. | ||
| I'm the sides guy. | ||
| Things matter. | ||
| Who you come from, who your tribe is, what you stand for, what God you worship, what you do every day, what you build, what you create. | ||
| That's who you are. | ||
| And anybody that tells you there's no sides is the devil. | ||
| All there is is black and white. | ||
| All there is is up and down. | ||
| All there is is red and blue. | ||
| All there is is green and yellow. | ||
| All there is is up and down. | ||
| It's complete. | ||
| Gravity's real, folks. | ||
| It's all real. | ||
| You must choose a sign. | ||
| The Bible says you were neither hot nor cold, so I spit you out of my mouth. | ||
| God says Satan is better than some fit-sitting piece of shit. | ||
| So in a matter of years, we've gone from a career that's built on being above the left-right paradigm to Alex screaming, I'm the sides guy. | ||
| I'm the sides guy. | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| What a thing to say about oneself. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Let alone another human being. | ||
| I'm Mr. Sides. | ||
| I'm Mr. Sides. | ||
| Also, you, like, you don't understand what you're saying whenever what you're saying is what you're saying. | ||
| Like, oh, you chose the wrong side. | ||
| There are no sides. | ||
| There's only... | ||
| Only sides! | ||
| There's only sides and there are no sides. | ||
| Equivalent statements. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You just don't understand Dune. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| And, thankfully, Chase is a Dune guy. | ||
| No, no! | ||
| Yeah, actually, this is the most excited I've been on this show for a long time. | ||
| Well, enjoy. | ||
| Here's a little bit of Dune for you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You know, it's interesting. | ||
| I never thought about the Bene Gesserits in this way, but you mentioned that from Dune, and I don't want to get into the weeds on Dune on this broadcast. | ||
| What's the organization, though? | ||
| The only organization in that whole entire universe. | ||
| That goes in every single house. | ||
| It's literally a globalist organization. | ||
| Everything else is siloed. | ||
| Every other house is sovereign to itself, loyal to itself. | ||
| But their globalism is the catalyst for total, universal, galactic war. | ||
| It goes back to the goddess. | ||
| It's the woman. | ||
| So only that cult can take over. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Herbert was a super thinker. | ||
| Or was he? | ||
| Way beyond the movies. | ||
| He's telling you the whole secret right there. | ||
| Old-fashioned artillery. | ||
| Old-fashioned artillery. | ||
| Oh, my God! | ||
| Genius. | ||
| I'll be right back. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| A little home movies energy there. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That was just so good. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I just... | ||
| And the way they end it, too, with that... | ||
| It's abrupt. | ||
| I mean, it's just so dumb. | ||
| It's just so dumb. | ||
| Alex, I think, likes the Harkonnens. | ||
| I would assume so. | ||
| So the Bene Gesserit are the globalists. | ||
| I do love the idea that... | ||
| It's a goddess. | ||
| Like, think about this. | ||
| I'm going to throw this out there. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Just think about men in the 60s, right? | ||
| And if they create an evil organization that controls everything and make it only women, maybe they might. | ||
| They might be dealing with something. | ||
| They might be dealing with something that's not, like, figuring out the secret. | ||
| So, we got one more clip here. | ||
| And this, I think, has a little bit more of the Coach McGurk and Brendan energy that we just so crave. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| This is Alex explaining to Chase that fighting is in the gut. | ||
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No. | |
| It's almost too on the nose. | ||
| It's on the nose, yeah. | ||
| When you really want to fight, it's not a mental thing. | ||
| Because mentally you decide to make a decision in your life, it's in your brain. | ||
| And you really love a woman, it's in your heart. | ||
| You feel the love of a woman in your heart. | ||
| But when you decide to beat somebody's ass... | ||
| Like somebody just knocked you upside the head and your nose is broken and they're about to kill your ass. | ||
| It's in the gut. | ||
| It fires up like fire in the belly and you're like, oh, that's like it's in the gut. | ||
| It's the fire in the belly, folks. | ||
| And he just said that. | ||
| We've got to have the guts, Chase. | ||
| We've got to get the guts on fire. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You know, it's funny you mention that because I've never been one to get in fights or anything like that. | ||
| I've got a bleeding disorder. | ||
| I always avoided that sort of thing. | ||
| One time when I lived in East Nashville, kind of a bad part of town, my first house, started home. | ||
| It was like midnight and my door didn't close all the way on the front door of my house unless she deadbolted it because the house was 100 years old and it was winter so everything contracts. | ||
| And somebody knocked on my door and the door flew open. | ||
| And as somebody who's not particularly physically tough by any means, fire in my belly. | ||
| I charged at the guy, and he was this giant black guy, bigger than you, Alex, taller than me. | ||
| I charged at him, and he goes, I'm the guy who mows your lawn! | ||
| I'm the guy who mows your lawn! | ||
| He was just knocking on my door to ask me if I had any cash, because he just needed help. | ||
| And I just saw a silhouette in the door, and it's true. | ||
| We need to activate that quiet, sleeping giant within. | ||
| We all have it, regardless of how tough we are or smart we are or talented we are. | ||
| We all have some degree of it, and I think that's what it's going to take in order to face this giant in our door. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I don't think this world... | ||
| That type of clip is so home movies that I have decided this is a simulation. | ||
| Except that Brendan is smarter. | ||
| Brendan is way smarter. | ||
| I don't know if I've ever... | ||
| Heard anyone, so diametrically learned the wrong lesson from a thing. | ||
| Yeah, and thematically go so far off track, because Alex is like, all right, Brendan, fighting's in the gut. | ||
| It's not a head thing. | ||
| When you love a woman, it's in your gut. | ||
| Actually, I'm not really a fighter, Coach McCurk. | ||
| Not really something that I do. | ||
| I'm kind of more of a lover guy. | ||
| I'll tell you an interesting little anecdote. | ||
| But the anecdote's wrong, because the anecdote is a story that Brendan is telling about misassessing a threat. | ||
| That is somehow... | ||
| So he's talking about his gut being actually wrong. | ||
| 100% wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yet is somehow acting like, see, I did the right thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I felt really scared in that moment in my tummy. | ||
| So I hit a totally innocent person who I've 100% seen over and over and over again. | ||
| And it was my fault for not locking my door that I knew didn't close. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| All the other person did was knock on his door. | ||
| Now, granted, it's midnight. | ||
| Maybe that's a little bit rude to be knocking on someone's door at midnight. | ||
| But he didn't break down his door or anything. | ||
| There was no actual threat that was being responded to here. | ||
| You could have been like, who is it? | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| But their energy is compelling. | ||
| I mean, it's just... | ||
| None of this is real. | ||
| None of this can be real. | ||
| This has to be a simulation. | ||
| If I'm such a huge fan of whole movies when I'm like fucking 12, and then here we are, and I'm listening to it in real life. | ||
| But it wasn't until like... | ||
| Six, seven years into doing this podcast that the dynamic appeared. | ||
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I know. | |
| He didn't have this with other people. | ||
| Did we make it happen? | ||
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Maybe. | |
| We're both fans of home movies. | ||
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It's true. | |
| Did we speak? | ||
| We've made more than a few references. | ||
| What if he watched the series and was like, oh my god, Chase is my Brendan. | ||
| There's something so awesome, too, about how Alex sounds like he's getting a little emotional when he's talking about the fighting in the gut. | ||
| Because that's so much like... | ||
| He's drunk. | ||
| Yeah, that's so much. | ||
| Rambling at this kid. | ||
| Here's what's crazy. | ||
| Here's what's so crazy about this. | ||
| Somehow, everything Alex Jones says makes, like... | ||
| It's a lot more fine if I imagine him not on the radio just talking to some random child who's smart enough to know we don't need to deal with this, you know? | ||
| It's weird that that's a more comforting context. | ||
| It's a way more comforting context. | ||
| So I think that's a lot of fun, but it's still important to remember that this is on the same episode that Alex is reopening Wounds of Sandy Hook, which is fucking atrocious, and he's a... | ||
| Big old piece of shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Further, he has Marjorie Taylor Greene on. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And we're not going to listen to any of it, mostly because they had terrible phone difficulties throughout a lot of it. | ||
| And it's not that interesting. | ||
| But she probably should be thrilled to be associated with this. | ||
| Or vice versa. | ||
| Hard to say. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Anyway, hopefully this will have some sort of consequence for Alex. | ||
| Let's do our best! | ||
| America! | ||
| There should be some sort of a civil penalty for this. | ||
| I can't imagine this being okay in the courts. | ||
| But, hey, we'll see. | ||
| You know, that's the problem with when rich people write laws, not adults. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do! | ||
| It's Zalajai.com! | ||
| Yep, we're also not... | ||
| Hey, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neil and Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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Woo! | |
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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