#936: Turning Point USA Speech
In this installment, Dan and Jordan take in what happened when Alex was invited to give a speech at the Turning Point conference, where he yelled all his catchphrases and got a number of chants going.
June 21, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:09:44
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| Knowledge Fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating. | |
| Knowledge Fight.com. | ||
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
|
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
|
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Can it still be that Uncle Howdy is back? | ||
| I mean, yes! | ||
| Yes, it can, Dan! | ||
| In that case, I'll take it. | ||
| Because my other alternative was that I bought some jalapeno, or not jalapeno, habanero ketchup. | ||
| And it's actually pretty good. | ||
| It's got a good kick to it. | ||
| It's not the cheese, though. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, it's ketchup. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I find that oftentimes when you have something like this, one of these spicy ketchups or whatever, it's a little underwhelming. | ||
| But the habanero Heinz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No free rides. | ||
| This isn't an ad, but it's pretty good. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's pretty spicy. | ||
| I will tell you one thing about ketchup. | ||
| The only thing that is stuck in my brain about ketchup is whatever nonsense Malcolm Gladwell wrote one time in the New Yorker way back when. | ||
| Was it about antioxidants? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was like, why is ketchup ketchup? | ||
| But there's all kinds of different mustards, but no matter what you try with specialty ketchups, it's not ketchup. | ||
| Or whatever it is like that. | ||
| And now I know that none of what he's saying makes any sense at all, so I don't know anything about ketchup. | ||
| But a one fact that is not true! | ||
| I think that, I would, I'm gonna, having not read this Gladwell thing, I'm gonna argue with him. | ||
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A little bit. | |
| I'm gonna argue with the position that I imagine. | ||
| Argue with Malcolm Gladwell? | ||
| With the position that I imagine that he has. | ||
| Yes, I like that. | ||
| There are a ton of varieties of mustard, and there are a ton of varieties of ketchup, but most of the varieties of ketchup are bad. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of varieties of it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There are some bad varieties of mustard, too. | ||
| I don't want to get into the year of the mustard that failed. | ||
| Yeah, let's not relive the past. | ||
| Part of that was because there's a lot of bad varieties of mustard, and I don't like it as much as I thought I did. | ||
| But yeah, this ketchup's good, and Uncle Howdy is back. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Very exciting. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I mean, theoretically, that could be your bright spot in perpetuity. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Until it stops being your bright spot. | ||
| It is always your bright spot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We live in a post-howdy world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| I will tell you this. | ||
| My bright spot is challenge-related. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Real World Road Rules Challenge. | ||
| The Real World Road Rules Challenge. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I guess we don't spoil it? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know how much people care. | ||
|
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Right? | |
| But yeah, the finale just happened. | ||
| Yeah, the finale just happened. | ||
| But my bright spot is actually something that happened years in the past. | ||
| Whenever CT and... | ||
| Who was it? | ||
| Was it CT and Casey? | ||
| When they won? | ||
| When they won and they were like... | ||
| Listen, everybody worked hard, and we're going to share the money. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, because up until that point, it was first winner takes all, everybody else can go fuck themselves. | ||
| And sometimes that was literally the plot point, is the winner took it all. | ||
| Johnny Bananas. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And he can go fuck himself. | ||
| But that was like a huge, magnanimous gesture. | ||
| And then the following season, I think Devin won, and he backed up the gesture, and now they made it part of the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which I think is great, but also it should have always been part of the show. | ||
| With this season, it was first place gets big money, and then whoever finishes splits the prize pool, the rest of it. | ||
| And yeah, I mean, but it's all kind of an illusion, I think, because they... | ||
| They all get paid quite a bit to be on the show. | ||
| It's not the point, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why do you have to bring reality into reality TV? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Actually, I don't want to speak out of turn. | ||
| I don't know if they get paid a lot, but I think some of them do have a pretty big appearance fee. | ||
| I know plenty of them do not get paid. | ||
| Probably some of the newer people and people who aren't giant established characters don't get much per episode, but someone like Johnny Bananas probably gets quite a bit. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| You never know with those guys. | ||
| Don't they show up at bars sometimes just for an appearance fee? | ||
| Is that how that works? | ||
| I know that it has been. | ||
| Can we get into that game? | ||
| No. | ||
| We're too old. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that is good, though, that it's not winner-take-all. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, just a fairly enjoyable season of Old Person Survival. | ||
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It was a good season of Old Person Challenge. | |
| Yeah, very, very, you know, not... | ||
| Awful. | ||
| No, satisfying? | ||
| It could have been a lot worse. | ||
| There were a couple of points. | ||
| There were a couple of people. | ||
| There were a couple of situations that could have spiraled out of control that actually kind of stayed in control. | ||
| Uncharacteristically. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For sure. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| So, we got an episode to do, Jordan. | ||
| Do we? | ||
| So, let's get down to that. | ||
| We're going to be talking today a little bit off the beaten path. | ||
| We're going to be discussing a secret mission that Alex went on recently. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He went to... | ||
| To Detroit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| To go to the Turning Point USA convention. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Where he gave a speech. | ||
| And so we're going to be talking about his speech at Turning Point. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| In this time period? | ||
| Yeah, just a couple days ago. | ||
| Just a couple days ago the Turning Point USA conference happened? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex gave a speech. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It was wild. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So we're going to talk about this, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, this is a great idea. | ||
| So first, going to the Boston show with one of my partners and most of the polycule. | ||
| Does that make us policy wonks? | ||
| Also, Svetlana, I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Smooth Shrek. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I like the way you even read that. | ||
| You even read that. | ||
| Smooth Shrek. | ||
| Next, Kyle in Kansas, and to my raptor princess, Samantha, who I love with all my heart, Stitch, and I hope you're having a good day at work. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Rock Island's best rural carrier, who happens to be a pretty awesome mom, too. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to C-Murder's Life or Death is Better Than Bosselini. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
|
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
|
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | |
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little, little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| Jordan, you have no idea what any of that means. | ||
| I know C. Murda both saw and conquered Murda and was then conquered by it, I believe. | ||
| He is in prison for murder. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Which, I don't know, there's a lot of controversy about that. | ||
| Some people say he didn't do it, some people say he did. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But look. | ||
| But anyways, the tracks. | ||
| I've long been a supporter of Bossolini. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Partially because I think it's a funny name for an album. | ||
| It is a funny name for an album. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It feels like Mussolini, but like I'm a boss Mussolini, which is great. | ||
| Yeah, but it also, it just has some great tracks on it, like the, like a jungle. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Life is like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder. | ||
| Keep them going under. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Okay, I will take your word for it. | ||
| And the classic closing down shop with Soldier Slim and Magic. | ||
| That's a great song. | ||
| But yeah, this person is right. | ||
| I think Life or Death is a better album. | ||
| Second Chance, fantastic song. | ||
| So we are talking here about Alex's speech. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I'll be honest with you, I don't know a whole lot of the context of who else was speaking at this event. | ||
| I know that Trump was there. | ||
| Not on the same day, I believe. | ||
| Alex said that his flight was delayed, and so he didn't get to talk to Trump when he was there. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| He has said that. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| But one of the things that I noticed about this is that this speech is very Jack Posobiec heavy. | ||
| He gives the introduction to Alex. | ||
| He's out on stage, and he gives a little bit of a preamble, and we're going to start there. | ||
| It is time! | ||
| With God as our witness to understand that which is truly going on. | ||
| Because we know the man who stood on this stage last night, Donald J. Trump. | ||
| We understand the forces against him. | ||
| It's not just liberals. | ||
| It's not just Democrats. | ||
| It's not just the unhuman communists. | ||
| Because we understand that this is a war against the demonic. | ||
| This is a spiritual war! | ||
| I mean, this is just, like, something that needs to be addressed, quite frankly. | ||
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What? | |
| That it's a spiritual war? | ||
| These people are having a big convention and yelling that it is a spiritual war and people are cheering. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they think they're fighting demons. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And that's become pretty mainstream on the right wing. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But I have never seen believing your political opponent to be an unhuman predicate something terrible. | ||
| Well, actually, that's the name of Jack Posobiec's new book. | ||
| Predicate something terrible? | ||
|
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No, that's the first chapter. | |
| But yeah, Unhumans is his book. | ||
| Well, it's good that he... | ||
| It's good that he snuck that in. | ||
| I definitely gotta get some branding going while you're giving your speech. | ||
| It's one of multiple plugs for his book in this speech. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So yeah, I just think that we lose sight of it because we talk about it a lot, I think. | ||
| You know, this is Turning Point USA, which is fairly mainstream adjacent to the GOP. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just totally fine. | ||
| It is not controversial. | ||
| It doesn't cause a political crisis that people are on stage screaming about how they're fighting demons. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And everyone's like, yeah, we are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I wonder if part of that is because we're post, like, irony. | ||
| Is it part of it that even they don't even believe they're being serious? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, we're not actually taking it. | ||
| We don't actually believe that they believe that they're fighting demons. | ||
| Maybe they don't actually believe that they're fighting demons. | ||
| See, now I think that that is a convenient way that people rationalize stuff. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because, of course, I don't think they actually think they're fighting demons. | ||
| Okay, but do you think they're actually fighting demons? | ||
| No, but I think that they want to behave as if they are. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They want to use that level of justification for their political actions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which are going to be very, very bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, but... | ||
| They're gonna be so bad that you probably could only justify them by fighting the devil. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| We gotta not do movies anymore. | ||
| No more movies. | ||
| Because it's more exciting to fight the devil, I will admit, than to be like, we need to deal with municipal traffic laws better. | ||
| You know, I get that. | ||
| But, boy, we need to deal with municipal traffic laws before we can deal with the devil. | ||
| You didn't see that new municipal traffic law movie? | ||
|
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Oh, man, that was a barn burner. | |
| Yeah, it was... | ||
| Action packed. | ||
| Action packed. | ||
| So Posobiec, I think that he wants to get people in a call and response kind of mood here. | ||
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That's a good time. | |
| But I don't think he does the best job. | ||
| They are trying to take away our freedoms. | ||
| They are trying to take away the freedoms of people like Steve Bannon. | ||
| People like Peter Navarro, who is a political prisoner right now, this very instant. | ||
| And people like Donald J. Trump, who they want to lock up for 700 years. | ||
| Are you going to let them lock up Donald Trump? | ||
| Are you going to let them turn this movement into political dissidents and political prisoners? | ||
| Will you stand for a totalitarian regime that takes away our freedoms, that takes away our liberties, that takes away our children, that takes away our right to worship, that takes away our right to defend ourselves with the Second Amendment and a regime that will take us down? | ||
| What do you have to say to them? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| You fucked up the meter in terms of the call-in response with the audience because they were itching to say no again and you didn't give them an opportunity. | ||
| It's... | ||
| every time... | ||
| and I think it's not political party necessity... | ||
| like... | ||
| solo. | ||
| It's everybody. | ||
| You can definitely feel how many people are failed comedians by like... | ||
| Oh, I get what you've done open mics and we're rejected. | ||
| And that's what you're showing me. | ||
| There's some very clear incapability in terms of the public speaking that he's trying to do. | ||
| He's trying to pull off a move that he just doesn't have the chops for. | ||
| He doesn't have the chops for it. | ||
| And it's actually one of the simpler of the rhetorical moves. | ||
| It's like what somebody who's trying to pump up a crowd. | ||
| Obama does it to, like, when he pees. | ||
| Like, that's how inspiring that dude could be whenever he's doing that. | ||
| He's got the cadence for it. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, are we gonna let Trump get locked up? | ||
|
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No! | |
| Are we gonna let them take our kids? | ||
| No! | ||
| Then a fucking minute long... | ||
| Are we gonna let them continue on fighting against all of the people that we ever... | ||
| Why do you not understand the rule of threes? | ||
| It's even ironically talked about now. | ||
| The rhythm is atrocious. | ||
| And then he realizes it in the moment because he has to say, what do you say to them? | ||
| And he has to actually prompt the no again to remind them that they're doing a call and response. | ||
| It's just clunky as hell. | ||
| Tragic. | ||
| But, eh, you know. | ||
| What are you gonna do? | ||
| Ah, nothing. | ||
| So, Trump is gonna be re-elected. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| And now let's get around to Alex coming out here. | ||
| Come on, Jack. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Come on, Jack. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We got the new book out. | ||
| It's called Unhuman. | ||
| You've got to purchase this thing. | ||
| Because we've broken their system. | ||
| We've cracked their communist code. | ||
| We understand how to beat them. | ||
| And we are going to take all of them down in just 140 days on blessed November 5th when Donald J. Trump is re-elected President of the United States. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| Now, I know I promised you all Special guest today. | ||
| You may be thinking, my brother was out here as my special guest. | ||
| He's a special guy, of course. | ||
| We love Kevin. | ||
| But there's another man. | ||
| No, really? | ||
| Fuck Kevin! | ||
| There's a man who taught us many things. | ||
| A man that is hated even more by the media. | ||
| All those media back there. | ||
| Even more than Donald Trump. | ||
| Even more than us. | ||
| A man who taught us that there's a war on for your mind. | ||
| A man who taught us that if you are listening to this, you are the resistance. | ||
| And a man who taught us that the answer to 1984 is 1776. | ||
| Let's play the video. | ||
| A man who taught us various bumpers that he comes in from commercial break with. | ||
| A man who taught us getter done. | ||
| A man who taught us catchphrases galore that sound really fun to yell. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, that's a good credit for Alex. | ||
| He did teach people a lot of catchphrases. | ||
| I mean, okay. | ||
| It is not not an accomplishment. | ||
| To have been the greatest bumper sticker writer ever to live. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But he stole them. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that he deserves that appellation. | ||
| I'm just saying that it's not the genre of accomplishment. | ||
| It's that he still sucks at it. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, he tried to... | ||
| We forget about all of the attempts at things that didn't work, like the quattro. | ||
| Ooh, I like the quattro. | ||
| Forget that, and then you just have like... | ||
| The answer to 1984 is 1776. | ||
| Man, that is never going to make sense. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| He talks about it quite a bit in this speech, so maybe you'll get to the bottom of it before the day is done. | ||
| I get what you're trying to say, but it doesn't make sense. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It does, and I promise you, it will be explained. | ||
| So there's a lot of chanting going on at the beginning of this. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it feels like this is what you're really there for, right? | ||
| Like, what's the meat of what they have to say? | ||
| Everyone's there to just yell. | ||
| Right! | ||
| Just yell. | ||
| Primal scream with your butts! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| We want to take down the system! | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| That's it! | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| The answer to 1984 is 1776! | ||
| And now, the starting lineup for your Chicago Info Warriors! | ||
| Just three or four days ago, the great folks at Turning Point Action invited me out here. | ||
| I'm very blessed and honored to be here. | ||
| We are in the very center, the TCF Center. | ||
| Where almost four years ago, in the dead of night, they stole the election, not just from our amazing president, but from us. | ||
| And it is very, very poignant and important and a message to the globalists that we are here now in the very same building, a hundred yards from where the trucks came in at 2 a.m. and with the fake ballots. | ||
| And we come right back to this territory and we say, we are turning this whole country red. | ||
| We're restoring the republic and we're bringing down the new world order. | ||
|
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USA! | |
| USA! | ||
| You have an incredible champion in President Trump. | ||
| And he is going to win in a landslide so big they're not going to be able to steal it. | ||
| It's so big, they can't rig it! | ||
| Too big to rig! | ||
| Too big to rig! | ||
| Oh my god, now we're doing, now this is what we're here for! | ||
|
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Yes! | |
| Yes! | ||
| Nailed it! | ||
| A minute and a half, there's three chants. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that's what you're doing. | ||
| This is a parody of itself, honestly. | ||
| Well, that's... | ||
| Isn't that why it's so hard to take this whole, like, we're in a spiritual war seriously? | ||
| Because in dystopia, like, in Mad Max, they don't try and sell you their book before they steal your water. | ||
| And Alex is gonna sell a too-big-to-rig shirt. | ||
| Give up the gasoline, World Warrior! | ||
| But first, please go to my web... | ||
| You can't do it like that. | ||
| Please give me your gasoline shirt. | ||
| It's something. | ||
| It's... | ||
| It's something to behold. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| So I was hoping that Alex would get down to some substance and not just catch Frazier. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And so, you know, there's a little bit of him trying to make a point. | ||
| They are not as arrogant as they used to be. | ||
| But we have got to be peaceful in the next 140 days. | ||
| They're going to try to stage civil unrest. | ||
| They're going to try to bill it as a civil war. | ||
| They're going to try to absolutely pull out all the stops and expand war with Russia. | ||
| They are going to do everything they can to continue to crash the economy because they are in direct war with we the people. | ||
| So this fight for America is key, not just for us, but the entire world. | ||
| Because if this republic falls, the entire world falls to the UN and the globalists and their hellish plan to literally take everything you've got, including your children, away from you. | ||
| I think Alex struggles to find the point to end a sentence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think there were a couple points in there that he could have ended things and maybe gotten a cheer. | ||
| And then instead he ended up on a point that elicits a negative response from the audience. | ||
| Take your children away. | ||
|
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No! | |
| Yeah, I mean, it really is something that I think I've taken for granted now. | ||
| Just all these years is just like, it is difficult to know what to do on stage if you're not regularly on stage. | ||
| And I know Alex is, even though, you know, you're doing a show, that's different from being on stage. | ||
| Being on stage is its own thing. | ||
| And, yeah, these... | ||
| These dudes aren't made for it. | ||
| I'm not perfect at it either, obviously. | ||
| I mean, we just went and did our tour. | ||
| It wasn't a perfect performance on every front. | ||
| But the things that they're trying to do are things that are not being done. | ||
| This is a pep rally. | ||
| And the things... | ||
| The way that these stuff's being communicated is not in service of the reaction that they want to elicit. | ||
| Yeah, it is this. | ||
| It is exactly because of how they view themselves. | ||
| And it's why they failed as comics and life people. | ||
| They think they're way better than they are. | ||
| So they never bother to learn how to do the simplest... | ||
| This is how long people want to hear your sentence for. | ||
| Take a break. | ||
| Take a breath. | ||
| Slow it down. | ||
| Well, Alex talks to nobody all day. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And when you're on stage, you think you're talking fast, and you think you're talking slow, and you need to go even slower than that because you're racing. | ||
| It's that kind of thing. | ||
| And they never bother. | ||
| So one thing that in this next clip might shock you to learn, and that is apparently the New World Order is anti-capitalist. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| The New World Order is ultra-rich, anti-capitalist monopoly families and banks like BlackRock that literally want to end the open free society and consolidate total control and colonize your mind and your family and your spirit. | ||
| And they are not atheists. | ||
| They are transhumanists that believe they're going to be gods. | ||
| Thanks for letting us know! | ||
| And whether it's Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates or Yuval Noah Harari... | ||
| They represent the globalist ruling class of the planet who say the future is not human. | ||
| Well, we got news for them. | ||
| The future is not globalist! | ||
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*crowd cheers* | |
| The future is... | ||
| The future is human. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| Okay, good clarification. | ||
| So yeah, they're demons, shouting about demons. | ||
| I feel like it is a little bit strange to be like, these capitalist structures are anti-capitalist. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| What do you think is going on sometimes? | ||
| And then you're like, well, if you're starting there, there's nowhere to go. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| If you're starting with my enemies are demons, there's nowhere to go, too. | ||
| There's nowhere to go with any of this. | ||
| This reminds me of Futurama. | ||
| In an episode, they go and fight a war against Bouncing Ball Planet. | ||
| They're bouncing balls. | ||
| They're talking to Zap Branding and they're like, why are we fighting them? | ||
| And he's like, ah, they stand for everything you don't stand for. | ||
| Also, they said you were dorks. | ||
| And it's like, this is exactly the justification. | ||
| Everything you like, they hate. | ||
| Life, they're your children. | ||
| They hate them. | ||
| Alex has just doubled back to the exact same behavior that he rightly criticized in the Bush administration of the, they hate your freedoms. | ||
| They hate your freedoms. | ||
| This is just what he's doing, except he's doing it domestic. | ||
| Statistically and with people who politically disagree with him. | ||
| There is a certain dramatic irony to it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There is a certain amount of, like, you know, Bush taught us all the wrong lesson, and then, well, you know. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| So Alex has a rallying cry for Trump to be re-elected, and it's like, I think it basically comes down to, he fucked up last time! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Which is a good selling point. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But this next clip is also where this speech went from, like, meh, kind of a pep rally into, like, now this is actually kind of interesting to me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| President Trump is a great man, super smart, amazing. | ||
| He wanted to turn the country around. | ||
| He's pro-human. | ||
| He's pro-free market. | ||
| He's pro-family. | ||
| He's pro-freedom. | ||
| He's pro-security. | ||
| But he's even said it himself, when he got in almost eight years ago, He had no idea how bad the corruption was, how people would lie right to his face over and over and over again. | ||
| But now, coming back in 140 days, President Trump is born again hard, and he knows the facts, and he is going to go after that deep state and remove the deep state coup that's been over America. | ||
| And you can... | ||
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Alex. | |
| Alex, I have to say, I have to say, I have to ask you, and I'm going to interview you for a minute. | ||
| Alex, what do you think they'll do to President Trump between now and Election Day? | ||
| Hey, Jack, what are you doing? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| Why are you still on stage? | ||
| I did not realize... | ||
| Is Alex giving a speech? | ||
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Yes! | |
| Or is Jack Posobiec moderating a one-man panel? | ||
| Jack Posobiec introduced Alex and then he stayed on stage the whole time. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah, because... | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I can tell you exactly what is happening. | ||
| Well, he's going to keep Alex from doing a show. | ||
| Right! | ||
| No one trusts Alex to give a speech in a place like this? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| So he's there to babysit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't get too drunk, Alex. | ||
| He's going to be on stage with you. | ||
| Hey, Alex, we've seen what you're capable of. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| We want to keep this on the rails. | ||
| That is fun. | ||
| I don't know what I would feel about that if I were Jack. | ||
| Or if I were Alex. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| It is like the unstable genius rock star who is like, oh, we don't know if he's going to show up, but when he does, it's mad. | ||
| You know, like that. | ||
| Except you're stuck with Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Jack Posobiec has to babysit. | ||
| Yeah, you get the hype man who's not very good and a little bit over the hill. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a little bit different than the magic rock star, but oh well. | ||
| So I think that it's probably underwhelming. | ||
| To be like, we gotta get Trump in because he's gonna do it right. | ||
| He's gonna do the things we said he was gonna do last time this time because he learned from last time. | ||
| He learned by not doing those things last time. | ||
| Now he's gonna do those things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't believe that gets an applause. | ||
| Well, you gotta do something. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I just... | ||
| Sometimes I feel sad for... | ||
| Sometimes I feel bad for conservatives. | ||
| And just like, oh, man, you don't know how good it could be. | ||
| You know, like, some performance... | ||
| We can do some slick shit over here, buddy. | ||
| We can, like, really put on a show for you. | ||
| But you're like, if you're had to be with this, I don't know what to do. | ||
| I don't want to take this away from you. | ||
| Yeah, if this is something that you're like, oh, this will be good for our political action conference. | ||
| It's a very strange choice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a very low standard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And honestly, I think if you're doing this, if you have Alex, you want chaos. | ||
| So lean into it, put him last, and then just wash your hands of it. | ||
| Whatever happens is going to happen. | ||
| He's going to go burn the stage down. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's going to lose his voice getting chants going, yelling his catchphrases. | ||
| He's going to slander somebody. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Then that's good. | ||
| And then you go on with... | ||
| Yeah, like everybody needs the song that gets everybody to leave. | ||
| Yeah, I think a lot of this didn't... | ||
| Like, you didn't know this happened. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think part of that is because Posobiec is there. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| The potential for what could have been... | ||
| In an Alex speech was not reached because of Jack's babysitter. | ||
| What a stupid and self-inflicted rock and hard place to find yourself in between. | ||
| That is the worst. | ||
| The answer to 1984 is not inviting Alex to your political action conference. | ||
| Don't invite shitty versions of the same. | ||
| That's stupid, yeah. | ||
| Because then you've got to interview him. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| So Jack's going to interview Alex. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| What do you think they'll do? | ||
| to President Trump between now and Election Day. | ||
| You're reading my mind. | ||
| What will they do to him? | ||
| God literally gave us Donald Trump imperfect as most men or women that God raises up in history. | ||
| But he is a man of steel. | ||
| He is a man who has ice water in his veins. | ||
| He is a man who gets stronger under attack. | ||
| And so they have already put him through hell with all these show trials and rigged courts, civil and criminal. | ||
| And they are going to try to assassinate President Trump. | ||
| Make no mistake about that. | ||
| They are going to try to pull out all the stops. | ||
| And so we've got to pray for President Trump many times a day. | ||
| And we've got to bust. | ||
| We've got to bust our rear ends. | ||
| To get out there in America because the people are waking up and they're ready to become fully awake and let them know that the WF and the UN and Bill Gates have said they're bringing new lockdowns, more forced injections. | ||
| They're cutting off the farms. | ||
| They're cutting off the energy. | ||
| And if you think the economy in free fall right now is bad, it is going to be ten times worse. | ||
| So this is existential. | ||
| We are at war with the globalists, and we must now recognize that this is a war. | ||
| This is just as important as 1776, and in the context of the population of the world, the weapons we have now, it is more important. | ||
| This is more important than 1776 now. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| This is big. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, all of this stuff has just become, I guess, so mainstream for the right wing that, like, Alex can just be like, I fucking hate vaccines! | ||
| I hate public health awareness! | ||
| I hate all of this stuff! | ||
| And fuck all... | ||
| And it's not even, like, a big deal. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, it is! | ||
| I know that this isn't CPAC. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| But it is still... | ||
| No. | ||
| Turning Point's a big organization with a lot of... | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Legitimacy. | ||
| No, I mean, I've read it. | ||
| I've read some of the speeches. | ||
| I've read about it. | ||
| But the idea of actually being at, like, a Lindbergh rally, you know, in 19-whatever. | ||
| It's not unlike this. | ||
| Let's put it that way. | ||
| So, Jack Posobiec, I think he's there, like I said. | ||
| Just to keep things on the rails. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And people like Ken Paxton from the great state of Texas are moving against the globalists to pull public funds and pension funds out of these globalist corporations that try to control our lives and try to control our behavior, as Larry Fink said. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| Let me tell you something about Alex. | ||
| The lies they spread about Alex, they've tried to take him out more than they've tried to take any of us out. | ||
| But let me tell you what it is. | ||
| What they'll never say is that Alex Jones has spent 30 years being the loudest voice for freedom, for liberty, and for anti-war that this world has seen. | ||
| He stood against them, and that's why they're against him. | ||
| What they'll never say about Alex is, he can't be trusted to give a speech unless I'm here. | ||
| You're keeping things together. | ||
| What they'll never say about me is that I went to Comet Pig Pong Pizza and pretended to be scandalized by what was going on there in order to perpetuate Pizzagate. | ||
| Go fuck yourself, Jack. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| I struggle with the two of them being on stage. | ||
| During a one-person speech. | ||
| This is already a problem for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then to have it turn into an interview, because so clearly this man is being babysat. | ||
| Like, there's no other interpretation of giving a speech that includes a person asking you, giving you prompts for the paragraph headers that you should have memorized. | ||
| And then, like, trying to bring up the energy along... | ||
| Like, this is all... | ||
| Alex should be doing all of this. | ||
| Yeah, this is... | ||
| This is not... | ||
| This doesn't make sense. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| I mean, I can, and I can feel the idea, I can definitely feel from the audience a sense of like, What are we watching? | ||
| This is wrong. | ||
| This is all wrong. | ||
| It's one thing if it's like Jack Posobiec and Alex Jones in conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then it's kind of like that's what you expect. | ||
| But this is Alex who's supposed to be giving a pump-up speech, and Jack is interrupting him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trying to carry some of the weight. | ||
| I'm baffled. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| Bewildered. | ||
| So they talk a bit about how Elon Musk is pretty great. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because everyone loves Elon Musk at that place. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| They have tried to burn him to the ground, but he won't stop fighting. | ||
| Well, thank you. | ||
| But if it wasn't for people... | ||
| Like Jack Posobiec supporting me when I was under attack, or Tucker Carlson, or people like Joe Rogan, but all the folks like you, they would have taken me down. | ||
| They saw me as a symbol of a populace that had their number, understood their plan, and that if the information got out, the world would awaken and they would be defeated. | ||
| But if they think they've got a problem with Alex Jones and all the lies and all the disinformation and all the show trials and all the rigging, imagine their horror now when they've got... | ||
| Twin Godzillas of Donald Trump coming after him and now Elon Musk goes to the World Government Summit at the WEF last year. | ||
| And he says, your world government's dead on arrival, it's totalitarian, it's anti-human, and we're going to have a pro-human future. | ||
| And when I interviewed him for two and a half hours a few months ago, I said, Elon, should we not call it Team Humanity against Team Satan, against Team New World Order? | ||
| And he said, yes, let's launch Team Humanity! | ||
| Team Humanity! | ||
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Team humanity! | |
| That's bad meat or two. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you gotta get the energy going. | ||
| It's a pep rally. | ||
| You gotta keep it moving along. | ||
| And Alex is rambling a little bit too much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not interesting enough to be a capable speaker if he stops moving. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He needs to constantly be like, ba-ba-ba! | ||
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Ba-ba-ba! | |
| Ba-ba-ba! | ||
| Ba-ba-ba-ba! | ||
| Or else you end up being like, ooh, this is kind of dumb. | ||
| And Jack's there to start the Team Humanity chant and keep the audience in that ba-ba-ba state. | ||
| Yeah, it really does feel like they just needed a rhythm machine. | ||
| You know, like, okay, let me throw this out at you. | ||
| Get a metronome, right? | ||
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So you got tick, tick, Tick, tick, tick. | |
| And then you get Alex in a good rhythm for people to... | ||
| Half the time with comedy, it's just you get people in a good rhythm and then they know when to laugh and then they do. | ||
| It's like an excuse to laugh with your friends. | ||
| It's not necessarily you're getting a maid to laugh. | ||
| And I imagine this is similar. | ||
| It's not like... | ||
| It's not like you get the chance to... | ||
| Well, you don't get the chance to cheer in your daily life. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So you gotta go somewhere to get a good cheer. | ||
| Well, that's why you go to, like, maybe one of the other speakers at Turning Point. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You want to yell aggressively, and that's why you go to see Alex. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Unless Alex is a surprise guest, for real, and then I don't know how you're... | ||
| Then it's probably good to have Sobic out there in case there's hostility towards Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, in case there's a lot of, like, normal GOP-ish folks in the audience who are like, fuck this guy. | ||
| What do you think an audience member left with? | ||
| Like, they went out to a bar and just like, hey, that was great. | ||
| What do you think about Alex? | ||
| What do you think they left with? | ||
| What do you think about Alex and Jack standing there together, confusing all of us? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They got to yell a little bit. | ||
| I think that's probably... | ||
| They probably felt a little bit invigorated at points. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| So anyway, I told you that this is just weird. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The dynamic between them. | ||
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It is weird. | |
| And it's even more weird, because Jack starts doing an Alex impression. | ||
| What? | ||
| They are the un-humans. | ||
| They are un-humans because that is what they do. | ||
| They want to un-human us. | ||
| They want to rob us of our liberty. | ||
| They want to rob us of our identity, of our culture, of our language, of our faith, everything that makes us actual, spiritual, connected beings in this world. | ||
| They want us atomized. | ||
| They want us to be insectoids. | ||
| They want us to eat the insectoids. | ||
| Will you eat the bugs? | ||
| No! | ||
| Will you live in the bugs? | ||
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No! | |
| Absolutely, and now the battle lines are being drawn. | ||
| Are you gonna let him turn the frog's gate? | ||
| No! | ||
| I don't think that I would appreciate that if I were Alex. | ||
| I swear to God, I would have fought this man by now. | ||
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Yes! | |
| Get the fuck off my stage. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| I mean, honestly, there is a part of me that feels like the moment you step on a stage, you should feel like it is your space. | ||
| Yeah, especially if you're being introduced with a video package and you're a speaker who's been invited to come to this place. | ||
| Son, get the fuck off my stage. | ||
| Yes, you have this asshole who cried about Pizzagate sitting next to you doing an impression of you to get a pop from the audience. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
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That's an insult. | |
| That's the most disrespectful thing I could think of. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Not cool. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's... | ||
| That's horrifying. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| So I told you that we were going to hear about the 1776-1984. | ||
| We're going to explain the situation. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So Alex is going to talk about that here at this point. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that's what this is about. | ||
| We are pro-human. | ||
| Old, young, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, everybody that has red blood, that loves God and wants a pro-human future. | ||
| And as long as we get that message out, and as long as we don't support the globalists and all these anti-human systems they're putting out, we are going to win. | ||
| And when we take back America, we're going to start the project to take back the world, not through force, but through intellectual and spiritual power under Christ, under God. | ||
| And we are going to launch the next project. | ||
| Of 1776 worldwide! | ||
| 1776 worldwide human liberty in a declaration against tyranny. | ||
| And you quoted me earlier, and it's a powerful saying. | ||
| I was covering Bilderberg in 2006 in Canada, back when the media still said it didn't exist. | ||
| They'd arrested me, held me in a jail cell for a day. | ||
| They released me. | ||
| And this famous British economist, I later knew he was famous. | ||
| He died a little while after. | ||
| Great story! | ||
| We're selling political into mathematics, and I have a slogan for you. | ||
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He said, the answer to 1984 is 1776. | |
| And he's in my film Endgame. | ||
| You can look him up. | ||
| But that's really it. | ||
| The answer to their 1984 anti-human dehumanization world is humanity coming together and celebrating freedom that God gave us and saying, no, the answer to 1984 is 1776. | ||
| They fucking love their catchphrases. | ||
| Now, here's the problem. | ||
| I get the explanation, and I know it's fun to do a gribble-pibble British accent. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| But there is no mathematical function that is expressed by the answer to 1984 or 1776. | ||
| If you did something like 1776 is greater than 1984, or something like that, it would have some sort of a mathematical thing. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I don't understand what is trying to... | ||
| What equation is being expressed here? | ||
| So I always thought that it was concepts, you know, like 1984 being the concept of tyranny and so forth, and 1776 meaning the concept of violently overthrowing a tyrant, right? | ||
| Well, that's one reading of it. | ||
| The other one might be 1776 is a stand-in for enlightenment ideas and personal liberty and stuff like that. | ||
| It doesn't always have to be the violent overthrow, although it often is. | ||
| I'm just giving voice to that a tiny bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, so that's like... | ||
| So is 1984 a puzzle? | ||
| Or a question? | ||
| Or a problem? | ||
| I mean, 1984 is a problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the answer to it... | ||
| And the answer to it is violent revolution. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I mean, like, 3X equals 9. Right. | ||
| X equals 3 is the answer to that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, that is... | ||
| Is like a mathematical statement. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So maybe this economist, which for fun I'm going to think it's Keynes. | ||
| I bet it's Keynes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Why not? | ||
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Keynes came to Alex shortly before his death. | |
| And he was like, okay, here's what 1984 is. | ||
| It's tyrants plus TV plus, I don't know, 9-11. | ||
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Equals... | |
| Nope, I got nothing. | ||
| Yeah, it's cute as a way of trying to explain your catchphrase, but it doesn't actually make more sense. | ||
| Yeah, this is midichlorians, man. | ||
| Just let the force be the fucking force. | ||
| He's a prequel guy. | ||
| Just fucking... | ||
| It's 1776 and 1984. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| It doesn't need a backstory. | ||
| 1776 will defeat 1984. | ||
| All of this is kind of fine. | ||
| Trying to pretend that it's mathematical is just... | ||
| Don't need it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't need it. | ||
| So there's more catchphrases getting thrown around. | ||
| I don't know how all this is going to end, but if you want to fight, you better believe you've got one! | ||
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They declared war on us! | |
| They're attacking us! | ||
| They're surveilling us. | ||
| They're censoring us. | ||
| They're cutting off our energy, our water, our communications, our freedom. | ||
| We're simply recognizing it and saying, we're not going to roll over and die. | ||
| Our God is the God of the universe that created all, and your little God, Satan, is a loser! | ||
| Satan's a loser! | ||
| I mean, this is largely why you would get Alex, I think, is to do the hits. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yell about the devil a little bit. | ||
| Yell 1776. | ||
| You want to fight, you better believe you got one. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He is a catchphrase comic. | ||
| Yeah, he's a getter done. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, the Globalists, they're going to throw a fake race war. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Yeah, that's apparently... | ||
| They're going to do what now? | ||
| They're going to precipitate a fake race war. | ||
| And the Globalists are going to try to cause civil unrest. | ||
| They build a race war. | ||
| They try to turn into a civil war. | ||
| Especially once he gets re-elected. | ||
| There'll be 79 days of hell. | ||
| He will be reelected. | ||
| They can't stop it, I believe, and we work hard. | ||
| It's done if we show up. | ||
| But as soon as he is president-elect, the 79 days between then and January 20th, 2025, they are going to roll out the stops. | ||
| And try to trigger a race war. | ||
| And that's a total lie and a fraud. | ||
| And we're all waking up and coming together. | ||
| But that's why they got movies about civil war. | ||
| And they're hyping it. | ||
| And all the Democrat Party operatives are claiming there's white militias hiding in the bushes. | ||
| They're going to come kill people. | ||
| So we've got to get ahead of that narrative. | ||
| We have to stop Biden. | ||
| Starting World War III is a distraction. | ||
| They are that desperate because there is a global, worldwide, political realignment against the New World Order. | ||
| The New World Order is a couple thousand. | ||
| Arrogant people led by King Charles, who sits around and talks about how he wants to depopulate people, and so did his father, Prince Philip. | ||
| And I'm telling them right now, we are not rolling over and dying for you inbred globalists. | ||
| You will not divide and conquer us any longer. | ||
| We want a pro-human free... | ||
| We want a pro-human free... | ||
| We want a pro-human future. | ||
| Hey, there we go. | ||
| If Biden did that, Alex would play that clip on his show for a month. | ||
| Yeah, never-ending bullshit. | ||
| I think that there is something that I find inherently sad about someone yelling about King Charles. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It doesn't feel that relevant. | ||
| Okay, and I'm not saying that this could be pulled off. | ||
| Because I don't think there would be enough people who are on board to get it done. | ||
| But man, I feel like we might be in a wabbit season situation. | ||
| Maybe we flip the sign to duck season, alright? | ||
| And then they're off in Britain taking out the monarchs. | ||
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Isn't King Charles pretty close to death anyway? | |
| You know what? | ||
| I bet he lives forever. | ||
| Y 'all should go get him! | ||
| Get on a boat! | ||
| Everybody, it's duck season! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just think... | ||
| I find this to be just absurd. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I mean, obviously, the real-world intersection of all this is trying to spread much, much further. | ||
| Preemptive excuses for why the more extreme and violent wings of Alex's ideology are going to carry out a bunch of insurgent violence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And how are we going to survive as a political movement if that happens? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's the kind of track that Alex is laying. | ||
| And that's the kind of stuff with the, they're going to foment a race war that's going to be a civil war. | ||
| They've got white militias in the woods. | ||
| That's all that stuff. | ||
| Then complaining about King Charles. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I have a theory on that. | ||
| My theory is they believe that all of this was supposed to happen in the 90s. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| But then... | ||
| Timothy McVeigh went too far too fast. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| And that was what stalled the movement. | ||
| Well, let me refine that a tiny bit. | ||
| Here is what I will throw at you. | ||
| They don't understand Timothy McVeigh. | ||
| They didn't understand enough. | ||
| But here's where I would refine it, and maybe this deals with your issue. | ||
| They, at least Alex, understands that Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing was a... | ||
| Massive detriment to the ecosystem and financial landscape of being a right-wing provocateur. | ||
| And that has probably played itself out when there are instances of extremist domestic violence that have happened, but especially in the 90s when Alex was just coming up. | ||
| So this lives on as a memory of if people do this stuff... | ||
| Eventually, it's going to ruin our business. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Some of what I think you're taking issue with is idealistic or ideological stuff, and I think maybe some of it is a little crasser than that. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I think ultimately their problem comes down to Timothy McVeigh believed in something that was real and acted accordingly, whereas they believe in fake shit. | ||
| They believe in movie stuff, you know? | ||
| It's... | ||
| Kind of the big problem they have is that their enemies aren't real. | ||
| Whereas Timothy McVeigh's were real. | ||
| Well, and one of the problems that the Timothy McVeigh era had was that people weren't ready to excuse that. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That act of violence. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They didn't have a built-in explanation that it was a false flag and, you know, they didn't have that preemptive track laid, which is what so much of Alex's content is really about, is about creating that preemptive justification should something really horrible happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're able to much more adequately or easily defend the rights of everyone to have... | ||
| You know, military-level guns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you preemptively label every act of mass gun violence as a false flag meant to make people give up their guns. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's just the game. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The idea is essentially we got to make sure that OKC will be OK next time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And whatever form it is of that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, Jack... | ||
| It just exists as a chaperone. | ||
| That's so uncomfortable. | ||
| It makes me very uncomfortable because I'm finally, genuinely, I feel like some need to protect Alex and get him... | ||
| Get off my stage, man! | ||
| I just have it. | ||
| I've got mirror neurons, man. | ||
| I think if there's anything you could take away from most of Alex's public appearances, it's that he's not going to... | ||
| Get off stage at the right time. | ||
| He's a little long-winded. | ||
| He's probably going to start rambling. | ||
| He's going to tell some weird story about how his dad's the smartest boy in Texas. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| And you need somebody to... | ||
| If you're running a professional conference, you do need to make sure that he doesn't do an hour. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I think that Jack is kind of important on that front. | ||
| But I would not take it well if I were Alex. | ||
| I think we're both in agreement about this, right? | ||
| If you want to do something, you should accept the consequences for it. | ||
| If you want to book Alex, there are consequences for it. | ||
| If you have Jack on stage, you might as well not book Alex. | ||
| Alex isn't going to be Alex with Jack on stage. | ||
| Well, it's an attempt to avoid those consequences, but unfortunately the consequences are actually what you want. | ||
| It's part of the game. | ||
| Yeah, it's all the same thing. | ||
| The consequences and the thing you like are the same thing. | ||
| Yeah, that's why this is kind of a dud. | ||
| And as long as we never give up, we are invincible. | ||
| I've got a lot of points here, but I just want to say something right now. | ||
| By the way, he comes to me, he goes... | ||
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I was like, Alex, I thought you'd just come out. | |
| I was like, no, I got a lot to say, Jack. | ||
| I got a lot to say. | ||
| So, Alex, what do you think? | ||
| Should we let him talk? | ||
| Oh, right, let's let him talk. | ||
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Have at it. | |
| Well, I like you interviewing me too, Jack. | ||
| I mean, look, I cannot express to you how epic the time is right now. | ||
| You don't need me to tell you that. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| You see the enemies of humanity, these mercenaries that have sold their soul to this tyranny. | ||
| They're desperate. | ||
| They have fear in their eyes. | ||
| Jack interrupted Alex to pump up the crowd by yelling, should we let him talk? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I'm going to tell you this. | ||
| I'm going to tell you this. | ||
| For all of their skills lacking on stagecraft, they know fucking weird dominance things. | ||
| Like, the should we let him talk question? | ||
| No! | ||
| You paid him to talk. | ||
| If you are asking, should we let him talk, what you're doing is subtly reminding everybody you have the ability to not let him talk. | ||
| And reminding Alex. | ||
| And reminding Alex, yes. | ||
| And then Alex has a little bit of his own dominance there with the, you know, I like getting interviewed by you too. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, like, oh, fuck you. | ||
| Yeah, they're doing a whole thing now. | ||
| Now I'm actually interested. | ||
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And it is also like... | |
| Insisting on doing the Alex voice. | ||
| He's so fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I understand that it's fun to talk like that. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I do it on the show a bit. | ||
| I would probably not do it to his face. | ||
| I mean, I would do it to his face once, but... | ||
| It is essentially, like, just coming up at... | ||
| Like, if you came up to my face and were just like, you're a clown, you're a clown, you're a clown, I'd be like, listen, I know, I'm a clown. | ||
| I like being a clown. | ||
| Stop screaming in my face. | ||
| That's really uncomfortable, man. | ||
| I find that if someone is not, like, a friend and they do an impression of my voice, I'm not happy about it. | ||
| That's usually a problem. | ||
| And if it is my friend, I still don't want them to do it, like... | ||
| To my face on stage with me or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, that's no good. | ||
| It's just disrespectful. | ||
| Why would you do that to your friend? | ||
| You would do that to somebody you don't like. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So we know that they're not coming after Trump. | ||
| They're coming after you. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And they just want to get through Trump. | ||
| Spiritual. | ||
| We talk about President Trump, he says it all the time. | ||
| They're not coming after him. | ||
| They've got to get through him to get to us. | ||
| And that's totally true. | ||
| They're not trying to get me or Jack Posobiec or any of these other great people here today. | ||
| They're trying to get every one of you and break your will and turn America into a tyranny because if America still exists, the rest of the world will aspire to it and it will be the model and freedom will grow. | ||
| That's why we are target number one. | ||
| And that's why God created this country. | ||
| We're not perfect, but we've been the best house in a bad neighborhood, and we have been given a birthright and a destiny by God through free will. | ||
| If we take on this challenge, we won't just empower our families and ourselves. | ||
| Through God, we will save the world. | ||
| And that is what we are doing here today. | ||
| I've got homework for every single person in this room. | ||
| I want to make sure that when you leave here today, turn to the person next to you. | ||
| Make friends. | ||
| Get their contact info. | ||
| Follow them on Twitter. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So this is, okay, now in the movie of this, at the very end of it, Alex tackles him offstage. | ||
| Like, we've gone as far as this bit will go. | ||
| The conclusion to the bit is, I'm so fed up that I tackle you. | ||
| We both fall offstage. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| At least backstage there's some kind of like, dude, what the fuck? | ||
| There has to be something. | ||
| This is a fight. | ||
| I'm fighting. | ||
| If we do this, we will save the world. | ||
|
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All right, folks, I'd like to give you some homework. | |
| What are you two doing? | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| It's not dynamic chemistry. | ||
| For people who have known each other, both personally and professionally, for so long. | ||
| They've been working together at least since Pizzagate. | ||
| So long! | ||
| To still be this stilted and uncomfortable around each other is almost an accomplishment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's one last little bit that Alex shoehorns in towards the end here. | ||
| And the last note seems to be like, hey, also January 6th was a false false case. | ||
| Everybody just remember that. | ||
| So again, we disavow any violence, any offensive violence, any kidnapping, any murder. | ||
| And we're going to get to the bottom of January 6th. | ||
| And that's where I was going next. | ||
| We know January 6th was staged. | ||
| Jack and I were both there, and a lot of people were going in the building. | ||
| This has been so historic. | ||
| So the globalist system is dead on arrival, but again, it wants to take us with them, so we can't just oppose the globalists. | ||
| We have to get back to Americana 2.0 and promote that to the world and have a better system than them, and we are doing it. | ||
| So again, I want to thank you all for everything you're doing, a lot of other great stuff coming up. | ||
| I want to thank Jack again, but never forget, the answer to their tyranny. | ||
| The answer to their New World Order is 1776. | ||
| God bless you all. | ||
| So I think that when, as brief as it did, it was only like a 20-minute or something like that because of Jack's interference and handling, let's say. | ||
| Underwhelming. | ||
| Alex, I think a lot of this was in service of creating a sizzle reel. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because he plays, like, the hits of it, you know, like him yelling the catchphrases. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then, like, a little shot of him backstage. | ||
| And he plays this on his show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This package of, you know, like, 17, 17, 17, like everyone chanting. | ||
| And then he's backstage and he looks at the camera and he says... | ||
| Old-fashioned artillery. | ||
| Genius. | ||
| And it's like, that's a Baron Harkonnen line. | ||
| That is a Baron Harkonnen line from Dune. | ||
| About when they committed an act of, essentially, genocide against the Fremen. | ||
| Correct, yes. | ||
| That's not the reference you ought to be making here. | ||
| No, no, they're the good guys. | ||
| That's very strange. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I really hadn't considered that. | ||
| I really hadn't considered that. | ||
| I guess I still feel, I think, small in some ways, insofar as I still think of, like, you're doing the show. | ||
| But in reality, you're right. | ||
| Like, in Alex's world, what he needs are five 30-second clips. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shots of him at Turning Point. | ||
| Places that are far more relevant and mainstream. | ||
| Closer to the, not close to the fringe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As himself. | ||
| A rally. | ||
| Cheering after his words. | ||
| He needs the highlight reel. | ||
| He doesn't need the show to go well. | ||
| That's the type of thinking that I don't have. | ||
| I'm doing the show. | ||
| The show's got to go well. | ||
| It reminds me a lot of coming up. | ||
| At the Laugh Factory. | ||
| There were a lot of people who just needed to get a picture of themselves on stage at the Laugh Factory as opposed to being concerned about the show itself going well or whatever. | ||
| And I think that that optical thing is a little bit that's very important for Alex. | ||
| He's at Turning Point on stage with Jack Posobiec and the crowd is chanting 1776 of them. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Gonna linger on. | ||
| Like, that's the resonant thing, as opposed to, like, yeah, you kind of said some empty platitudes. | ||
| You said the stuff that you generally say, I don't know, it was an underwhelming speech. | ||
| You didn't really break any new ground. | ||
| You kind of implied that America needs to colonize the world for freedom. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's not that America needs to colonize the world. | ||
| It's that everybody is going to become America on their own without coming here. | ||
| Didn't you say Trump should colonize the moon? | ||
| And if they don't do that on their own, we'll take it to them for their own good. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| For their own good, Dan. | ||
| We're the good guys. | ||
| I'm sure your intentions are wonderful. | ||
| Old-fashioned artillery for their own good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Genius. | ||
| It's very... | ||
| Just kind of, I don't know. | ||
| There's two feelings that I end up leaving the speech with. | ||
| One is that, like, that was boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex gave a boring speech at this political conference. | ||
| Yeah, it was a boring speech at a Nazi conference. | ||
| And then second, I just can't not feel sad at catchphrases. | ||
| It's so... | ||
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It sucks! | |
| Yeah, I mean, he has to go back to the well at the end for the 1776, and he doesn't even say his, like, the answer to 1984. | ||
| The answer to the New World Order and all this is 1776. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He throws in the, if you're looking for a fight, you better believe you got one. | ||
| Like, it's just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It is like... | ||
| It turns what I would imagine, what I would feel is like a career moment. | ||
| Or at least he's given speeches to thousands of people before. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But it's still one of those moments in your career of standing on a stage to that many people. | ||
| And I would feel that as a positive thing or a challenge to step up to or a challenge to overcome or just something to bask in. | ||
| But for him, it's something to endure. | ||
| Like, he has to just, like, get through it to get what he wants. | ||
| Which sucks! | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| I think, the thing that I kept thinking here is that moment when we were talking to John Ronson, and he was like, does he repeat himself a lot? | ||
| And when I said yes, John looked a bit disappointed. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| And I think that that moment of that disappointment is what I can't not feel when Alex does his catchphrases at the speech. | ||
| It's like, you're supposed to be the fucking guy who's like, you know, really, rah, tip of the spear. | ||
| You're shooting from the hip and all this. | ||
| You're doing your lines. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It's disappointing. | ||
| It's a betrayal of the premise of what Alex's image is supposed to be. | ||
| If you're going to live in a movie, you have to perform. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And you're on stage, you should be doing Bill Pullman. | ||
| This is your independence fucking day. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, you can't be giving me a half-assed speech with a handler next to you. | ||
| Bill Pullman wasn't interrupted by Quaid and is like, hey, I'm still gonna fly soon! | ||
| And there's not like five instances earlier in the movie of him saying, this is our independence day. | ||
| Hey, guys, this is our Independence Day. | ||
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No, no, no, no, no. | |
| This is our Independence Day. | ||
| Yeah, that would be a bad movie. | ||
| It's tough to look at this and not just feel like, oh, okay. | ||
| Doing that again, huh? | ||
| Wow, Turning Point did this. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That's a choice on their part. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| A bad choice, even for what it was that you wanted. | ||
| Even for what you wanted, you made the wrong choice. | ||
| But I think that that's an admission in and of itself. | ||
| The fact that you wouldn't just, like, Alright, we're gonna let the Tasmanian devil run wild. | ||
| You know, like, you know that you don't want to subject your audience to that. | ||
| You don't want to subject the people that paid to come to this conference to Alex's probably hour three of his treaties on why he's been wronged and his actions around Sandy Hook actually weren't that bad. | ||
| He's the victim in all of this. | ||
| Like, you don't want to make your audience listen to that. | ||
| He would 100% have gotten there. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| You ought to avoid that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so you do this. | ||
| It is so weird, though, to just, like, at no point in time do they just shrug their shoulders and feel dumb about themselves to be like, we're the party of freedom and beauty and doing whatever you want, and now here's King Kong and chains to give a speech. | ||
| It's an irony. | ||
| It's an irony. | ||
| But it also goes to the way that everybody wants to deal with Alex as, like, a prop. | ||
| And that is kind of funny in some ways, but also a little bit sad in other ways. | ||
| I understand that we can't do this. | ||
| But maybe we could. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| We should always have Alex in a dunk tank. | ||
| Always? | ||
| Always. | ||
| What good does that do? | ||
| I mean, at that speech? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| At that speech, everywhere he goes, he should be in a dunk tank. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| In case he starts talking about Sandy Hook stuff. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Then, boom! | ||
| Down you go. | ||
| Now, would you have Posobiec and him in a dunk tank, or is one enough? | ||
| Well, okay, in this scenario, because this is our pilot test for the program, right? | ||
| Essentially... | ||
| Posobiec is running the position of dunk tanker. | ||
| He's throwing the ball whenever we get off track. | ||
| He's metaphorically slapping the target. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| So theoretically, he in this scenario is our good guy. | ||
| But eventually, I think it'll be everybody but... | ||
| Jack Posobiec. | ||
| And maybe if the pilot program for the dunk tank works for Alex, we'll just start expanding it across it. | ||
| You know, right now it's just Texas specific. | ||
| And if you say that people can't be put in dunk tanks, you are limiting the free speech of the audience to express their displeasure in what is being spoken on stage. | ||
| Oh, imagine if you got mad about being dunked. | ||
| That is our freedom to dunk you, sir. | ||
| That is un-American. | ||
| Anyway, this is just kind of a blah speech, but I thought that the dynamics in it were something that is weird, and I didn't hear anybody mention any of this stuff, so I wanted to cover it. | ||
| But we'll be back on Monday. | ||
| I mean, this is one of those things. | ||
| This is one of those things where it is, and it's like Trump's full-length speeches. | ||
| When you read them, and then you read the way the media reports on them, it's like... | ||
| I understand that in order to report what you believe to be the relevant information, you excise a lot of this. | ||
| But what is actually the relevant information is how fucking insane that this is happening at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, this is insane what's going on. | ||
| In presenting things in a certain way, you're actually making it not as bad as it actually is. | ||
| You're making their point better than they are. | ||
| Your image is bad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's very bad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But the reality is worse. | ||
| It's horrifyingly worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And maybe some of that is true, except that no one's talking about Alex's. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Which is probably for the best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Uh, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo! | |
| And now, here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. |
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