All Episodes
June 24, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:03:30
#937: June 20, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex and find him stirring up fears of being made to drink bugs, making a strange admission about his dad's business, and interviewing an ancient aliens enthusiast.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
19:38
d
dan friesen
24:23
j
jordan holmes
13:07
Appearances
b
billy carson
03:15
Clips
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:02
| Copy link to current segment

Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
unidentified
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you, buddy.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
Sun tea!
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Sun tea is my bright spot.
dan friesen
You talking about putting a pitcher out?
jordan holmes
I'm talking about putting a pitcher out with a bunch of tea bags in it, and then the sun does the stuff, and then you bring the tea in, and then you got tea.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right?
My wife...
dan friesen
Used to do that as a kid all the time.
jordan holmes
Used to do it as a kid.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Hadn't done it for 20 years.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Right?
My wife just one day out of nowhere is just like, I got this jug, I'm gonna make some sun tea, and it's amazing.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's great!
dan friesen
It's strange.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It seems like now, sitting here, it's like, you shouldn't do that, right?
I mean, you're just leaving stuff out all day in the sun?
jordan holmes
I think she read something that was like, oh, it has nothing to do with the sun.
If you just put tea in water, eventually it'll diffuse.
dan friesen
I guess that makes sense, too.
That's how you make cold brew, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But at the same time, actually, I asked her, I was like, well, then why are you putting it out in the sun?
And she was like, it's romantic.
And I was like, that is the best answer you could possibly give me.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Don't try and defend it.
dan friesen
Through the rays of the sun.
You can taste them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
I don't need science.
It is romantic.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Golden.
dan friesen
What's your tea variety?
jordan holmes
She's been getting into all the teas recently.
Whenever we quit drinking, she switched over.
We became tea totalers for the most part.
dan friesen
Totally tea.
jordan holmes
Totally tea.
So she's got your green teas.
That's for laziness, right?
She's got herbal teas of a certain type, then of a different type.
Some with fruit.
Some with less fruit.
She's got plenty of different teas.
dan friesen
What about some of those funky teas?
jordan holmes
I don't know about funky teas.
dan friesen
Because there's some that have a real weird...
I don't even know how to describe it.
Muskiness to them.
jordan holmes
Muskiness?
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's a wide world of teas out there for you to explore.
Of all kinds of different flavor profiles.
jordan holmes
So you're talking about like the cheese of tea?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, something like that.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, that exists.
jordan holmes
That sounds gross.
dan friesen
It's in your future.
jordan holmes
Well, that's what British people do.
dan friesen
You keep going down the tea path.
alex jones
Ugh.
dan friesen
Never.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
Enjoy.
I guess...
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Well, I guess my bright spot is playing the Diablo 4. Yeah!
I've been enjoying this season, and I just like playing as a druid because I got a posse.
That's all.
I enjoy having werewolves with me that run around and some birds that fly around my head.
I play almost any game that allows me to have some pets running around.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
Have a team.
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, anyway.
Today we have an episode to go over, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about June 20th, 2024.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
That is Thursday's show, because Alex was out of studio on Friday.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
And I thought there would be a Saturday show, but there was not.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he's not out of studio, there's just no show?
dan friesen
No, there was a show.
Owen hosted.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen
But, you know, who cares?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Yeah, but no show on Saturday, and here we are.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This show is interesting.
It's very weird.
I will confess ahead of time that I did turn it off before it was over.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
Because I was just like, I can't.
I'm out.
Okay.
But we'll get down to business on this and all that.
But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, hey Adam, I'm a wonk.
Ball's in your court.
I may not be the mysterious professor, but I am Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Alex Jones.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Peter Hooney.
Thank you so much.
You're an hour policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Jake from MD.
You globalist scum, I will eat your ass.
Also, the EU did 9-11.
It's a demon feast.
Thank you so much.
You're an hour policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, we got this here episode.
And I think things are evolving.
Kind of interestingly.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We started from a place where in the conspiracy right-wing culture, you will eat the bugs.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
It was very, very popular.
jordan holmes
It was very popular.
dan friesen
But now it's moved on.
jordan holmes
But we haven't eaten the bugs yet.
dan friesen
No, but now you're going to drink the bugs.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We have full rollout on mainstream TV about bug milk.
Ground up bugs is your new milk because cows are bad and create methane, so you have to drink.
Bug milk.
It's not milk.
It's ground up.
Bug juice.
You've got funded by King Charles and the different globalist groups, the Extinction Rebellion, no oil people, attacking Taylor Swift's aircraft.
I mean, it just goes on and on.
Massive detention facilities in all of these states.
To imprison political dissidents.
That's confirmed.
We've got reports and video of that.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
FEMA camps are back.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
You're going to do this again.
But also, you're going to drink the bugs.
jordan holmes
There's a few people looking at Taylor Swift's plane.
And it goes on.
dan friesen
It goes on?
jordan holmes
It goes on!
dan friesen
And they're involved with King Charles.
King Charles sent those people.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
This is quite a rundown of headlines.
jordan holmes
I think it's so weird.
It's so weird now.
After Louis Black's soy milk bit came out.
20 years ago.
At this point, soy milk is still around.
And not just that.
It's expanded.
There's almond milk.
If you could be so vitriolic about soybean milk back then and be like, we'll never do all this stuff and now it's everywhere, just let it go.
We'll drink bug milk.
We'll get there.
dan friesen
They were just doing that a couple years ago with Soy Boys and stuff like that.
Alex is still on the soy milk tip.
jordan holmes
He drinks soy milk.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, it is something to behold, though.
The way that, like, you know, decades have passed, and the complaint is more or less the same.
Ah, fucking milk alternatives!
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, whatever.
I'll drink bug milk.
Fine!
Fine, I'll drink bug milk.
dan friesen
I was forcing you to drink bug milk.
jordan holmes
Just leave me alone.
dan friesen
So we have this going on in the background.
Yeah.
King Charles is sabotaging Taylor Swift's plane.
They're going to make you eat bug milk.
jordan holmes
Top stories of the day!
dan friesen
But now we get grounded a little bit more with some political election 2024 news.
alex jones
It's official.
The power structure is in total panic mode.
Major polls and the whole spectrum I've got here, Gallup, you name it, have Hispanics between 50 and 63% on the high end pro-Trump.
Now at his height...
They lied back in 2016 and said he hated Hispanics, so he only got about 20% of the vote.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, he lied?
alex jones
By the time he left office, he had about 40% support.
Now it's at least 50, and most of the polls have him at 60 to 63. That is massive.
I mean, Trump's got like 60% support with white voters.
So Hispanics are becoming more supportive than even, quote, white people.
dan friesen
This is a little bit of an exaggeration.
But yeah, Trump is doing better among Latino voters.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I want to try and dig into this, because Alex does this.
He can just say things that are so filled with meaning that we should tear apart, but it's just a small sentence.
He lied and said he hated Hispanics.
dan friesen
No, no, the media lied and said that Trump hated Hispanics.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, so it wasn't that Trump lied and said he hated Hispanics.
dan friesen
No, although...
jordan holmes
I was like, so wait, you're admitting that Trump said he hated Hispanics.
dan friesen
No, no, you misheard that.
jordan holmes
And now you're saying that it was a lie that he said.
But wait a minute, but that doesn't...
dan friesen
The media told the lie that he said that, and that made the vote proportion low.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
People bought into the media narrative.
jordan holmes
Okay, because I'm pretty sure I heard him say that...
dan friesen
No, it did sound like that.
I think you misheard that.
In all fairness.
Although your reading of it is very interesting.
jordan holmes
It seems obvious, really.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how he successfully stopped the last time they tried to do a COVID lockdown.
Right.
And the reality of this is just that the airlines had announced that they were going to start requiring their staff to wear...
Masks.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And then Alex started yelling about it and declared victory.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
That all the COVID precautions didn't come back.
jordan holmes
Easy win.
dan friesen
Yeah, big win.
alex jones
You remember last year, last July, August, I had a TSA manager, I'll leave it at that, that I know personally.
I won't say what airport, but I've known him for a long time.
They were called in and they said...
By October, November, we're going to roll out the mask and restrictions again.
And they tried, but they failed.
Well, now it's official.
From New York to Washington State, the Democrat Party operatives are recommending masks go back on for the bird flu.
So they are going to roll this out.
They're already killing cows and chickens and turkeys all over the country.
The federal government's cutting off water supplies from Iowa to Idaho.
They've cut off the energy.
They've cut off the fertilizer.
They are destroying the economy by design.
Deadly bird flu could be worse than COVID as officials urge to act now to save humanity.
Seattle health officials suggest return to COVID precautions including mask travel.
Shame to think of New York.
dan friesen
So there's something interesting going on here, and those are two unrelated headlines that Alex is reading off and suggesting they're connected.
The first one is about a doctor from Brown University commenting on how bad it could be if the bird flu was actively transmitting between people, and how cow udders are an effective place where the virus could mutate from something that doesn't infect humans to something that does.
The other article is about an increase in positive COVID tests among King County, Washington emergency room patients.
The previous weekend's rate was 0.5%, compared to this last one at 1.5%.
It's still not super high as a number, but it is a tripling of the rate, so it's worth noting, and the county's communicable disease chief said, quote, I don't know how high this peak is going to be, when it's going to peak, but taking precautions now is the best way for people to be able to mitigate the complications related to COVID.
No one's mandating anything, it's just a public health official saying, hey, it's better to be careful.
Alex is reporting these two stories together because in his world, they actually are connected.
There's no bird flu.
There's no COVID.
These are just PR campaigns being waged by the globalists.
Even if these viruses do exist, strictly speaking, there's no reason to be worried about them.
So news stories discussing potential dangers of human transmission of bird flu or suggesting that it may be a good idea to be cautious about COVID, it's all just an illusion.
These stories exist to serve as cover for the authoritarian power grab that the globalists are planning to make.
To Alex, there's just one story here: the globalists are using a fake health scare to seize power.
That story is the story that's being reported and all the other details are kind of irrelevant to anything.
In the real world, these two headlines may be about completely different topics, but they're close enough that Alex is able to make them feel connected underneath by the umbrella of conspiracy that he's using both of them to prop up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if anybody recommends anything based on any health kind of thing that isn't, like, dry pills that Alex sells, then they're, you know...
dan friesen
You want some fucking iodine for that bird flu?
jordan holmes
Now I do.
Now we're fine.
Okay, good.
dan friesen
This is not a power grab.
This is an ad.
jordan holmes
So as long as we know what we need, which is iodine, and what we have, which is bird flu, then we're fine.
No need for masks.
Take that, Seattle.
dan friesen
Yeah, we have, like...
I find that this is something that is important to understand, the language of Infowars.
These are two completely unrelated headlines about two different diseases and two different world situations.
jordan holmes
No one knows each other in these?
dan friesen
Yeah, and they are the same story to Alex and to the audience.
The listener experiences them as the same story, which is globalists are using fake health shit in order to...
Rule your life.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, it is a little bit like listening to a radio serial, you know, where the narrative is, like, just the world.
Only it's so...
It's false.
So you might as well have the shadow involved.
dan friesen
And the narrator is intensely unreliable.
jordan holmes
So you might as well have the shadow involved.
dan friesen
Right.
So, you know, they're going to make you drink the bugs.
We know this.
They're already making you eat them and you don't even know it.
jordan holmes
Eat bugs.
alex jones
In the last two years, all of the major top 15 or so processed food producers.
The TV dinners, the breaded chicken.
Tyson Chicken, I mean, all of them.
Breaded chicken fried steaks, you buy at the store.
They've changed the label.
There's just a code now on the back of the box.
And they put, quote, insect flour.
They always call fake meat meat.
It's not meat.
And it's the same thing with this.
It's not flour.
It's bug protein.
It's bug chitin.
Very toxic, very bad for you.
Very cancerous in all the studies.
It causes all sorts of bone cancer, stomach cancer, you name it.
And so now, they're calling it bug milk.
dan friesen
So this is all made up.
The root of this story is just lies and conspiracy bullshit about Tyson Foods investing in a company called Protex, which creates insect-based ingredients.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The reason that Tyson created this partnership is they have a very strong business incentive.
Protix can use the Tyson's manufacturing byproducts that might otherwise go to waste in order to create their products.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
It's a cyclical benefit.
jordan holmes
Recycling.
dan friesen
Protix didn't make insect flour that would be used on Tyson foods.
They're mostly used in pet foods.
This is ridiculous.
Further, Alex is just lying about the dangers of insect flours.
But...
There is a company from South Africa called Gourmet Grub that creates a product called Entomilk, which is a dairy alternative made from black soldier fly larvae.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They've been in human interest stories about this company.
There have been a bunch of them for the past few years.
jordan holmes
Bug milk people.
dan friesen
Because they made an ice cream out of Entomilk.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
But I guess today is the day that they want you to eat the bugs, people.
They're deciding, like, let's fold this into the conspiracy.
But it isn't news.
As a company that's been around for at least a few years now, it's...
jordan holmes
I feel like you're probably...
Here's why you can't escalate with the you're gonna eat the blank, right?
Because eventually you say, like you just did, you know, like, they've already started putting bugs in your food, right?
So once you've said they've already started putting bugs in my food, I'm like, yeah, I'm fine.
I've been fine.
They've been putting bugs in my food for two years.
I'm fine.
dan friesen
But here's the plot twist.
jordan holmes
So how about let's throw some milk on top of it.
dan friesen
You're not.
It's a slow kill bug.
jordan holmes
It's a slow kill bug?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
That's how you would get around it.
Yes, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Everything's a slow kill bug.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Regular milk is a slow kill bug.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, when you put it that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Eat some, drink, you will drink some bugs.
dan friesen
So we got another headline here that's being distorted.
alex jones
Well, anybody can know there's billions of people who want to come here.
They come here and get all this free stuff.
We're all going to collapse.
I mean, just a small percentage of the student loans being forgiven has upped the debt in the CBO 27%.
That's CNN reporting.
I mean, student loan relief contributing to 27% jump in projected federal budget deficit.
Congressional Budget Office reports.
unidentified
So...
alex jones
Trump is surging.
And remember, this is CBS whitewashing it.
This is CBS soft-peddling it.
The numbers are way worse for the system.
Trump is 20 points, 25 points ahead nationwide, depending on the poll.
Battlegrounds, at least 10 to 13. You can't steal that.
Don't have enough dead people's names.
Zuckerberg's database, he spent 400-something million on.
Four years ago to steal the election.
dan friesen
Can't wait for you to claim that the election was stolen one way or the other.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Exciting that you can't do it, and I imagine you probably will still say they did.
unidentified
Here's my pitch, all right?
jordan holmes
We announce that Trump won on the night no matter what, right?
And we don't even bother thinking about the results.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Right?
Then we wait a couple of weeks.
dan friesen
When you say we, do you mean everyone?
jordan holmes
Yeah, the whole world.
dan friesen
Okay, not just you and I. No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Not just you and I. Everybody, we wait a couple of weeks and we're like, oh, surprise, we found some votes.
Right?
But we are going to keep...
So even though Trump isn't actually elected president, which we've proven, we're going to let him stay president.
Because, you know, why?
We're busy.
You know, it's too hard to stop him.
dan friesen
So what does this achieve?
jordan holmes
What do they do?
The election was stolen, but we're not going to unsteal it from Trump because he stole it.
But they have to know that it was stolen by him.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, it's a PSYOP.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
We got a PSYOP.
dan friesen
No, but the PSYOP is a PSYOP.
jordan holmes
Ah, but now you're getting PSYOP'd.
dan friesen
Right.
It's all cyclical.
This scheme of yours is interesting on paper, but it wouldn't work.
jordan holmes
It probably wouldn't work.
You're right.
I also don't know what the objective would be.
dan friesen
No.
Seems like, in the end, Trump wins.
jordan holmes
I guess I'm pitching to Ashton Kutcher on this one.
dan friesen
This is a punked situation?
jordan holmes
This is a punked situation.
dan friesen
So if you're listening to this show entirely passively, you'll hear Alex say something like, student loan forgiveness has boosted the debt 27% according to the Congressional Budget Office reported by CNN.
You'll just hear that and you'll take it at face value.
If you're listening and you're superficially skeptical, you might go to the CNN story and find the headline, quote, student loan relief contributing to 27% jump in projected federal budget deficit per CBO, and you'll say to yourself, damn, Alex was right.
However, if you're interested in the actual story, you might dig a little bit further into the article and find out what these numbers actually mean.
The federal budget deficit is projected to be 27% higher than the estimate that was made back in February.
This is about $400 billion difference.
Only $145 billion of that even has to do with Biden's student loan repayment plans.
So already you can see how that headline that says that student loan relief is contributing to that 27% increase is already being mishandled.
In his coverage of the headline, Alex is ignoring the other contributions to that increase.
Bigger picture, extending out Trump's tax cuts, which heavily benefit the rich, involves $3.4 trillion that impacts the deficit, according to this same CNN article that Alex is using as his primary source.
The point is that Alex is often making shit up, which he's able to do, because headlines like this...
are written in CNN and they work to his benefit.
Yeah.
unidentified
Like the writing of that headline is prime for the kind of use that Alex is trying to use it as a prop for.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Was that headline written by a cartoonish rich person holding a giant bag of money?
dan friesen
I mean, functionally, it might as well have been.
jordan holmes
Poor people allowed to eat?
unidentified
Wrong!
dan friesen
The impression that it gives off is one that is a little bit...
jordan holmes
Yeah, student loan borrowers are destroying the economy, and it's your fault, you student loan borrowers, as opposed to rich people are owed several trillion dollars just because it's fun.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's a lot of news, but there's some things that are more important than news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All right, I want to get into the other federal news and border news.
And election news, but I've got two extremely exciting announcements to make.
It's been sold out for a while.
It's, when we have it in stock, our number one bestseller.
It is pure deep-earth crystal iodine.
It's so hard to make.
You've got to have DEA-approved labs that do it.
And it takes months and months to break it down, this special patented process.
Nobody else has true nascent iodine.
They put it on the label, but it's still bound to other elements, and it's not fully absorbable by the cells.
It's the missing link.
dan friesen
This is big.
This is a big announcement.
We got the iodine.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Iodine.
Still going.
dan friesen
There's a lot of news, but we got iodine.
jordan holmes
Got iodine.
The deep earth stuff.
dan friesen
We talk about this for a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe it.
dan friesen
For a fair amount of time.
And that leads to a revelation that I think is a little bit surprising.
And that is that Alex is saying that, look, we got the stock that we've got, but we haven't ordered anything else.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We don't have anything else coming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what you should say, because you...
Shouldn't exist anymore, right?
dan friesen
In theory.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So apparently there is no more shit coming.
jordan holmes
There's no more shit.
dan friesen
Unless he decides somehow to order more stuff.
He rambles a bit about this and then starts complaining about Atlantic Monthly.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
alex jones
We've gone from being right on the edge of the red to in the black sustainably.
Instead of a tenth of a tank, we've got like a twentieth of a tank because people are like, whoa, we better support.
Here's the problem.
We're almost sold out of everything.
We got a big shipment of X2 in.
We're about to get a shipment of Mineral Fusion in.
Nothing else is ordered.
We got t-shirts, books, films.
In the interim, if we do get a buyer or somebody to come in, we're going to have to bring on a bunch of sponsors in the interim to get the products reordered to survive.
So it's a paradox.
It's a catch-22.
This place was intentionally, in my view, running the ground by the guy that hated me and wanted to fire me and wanted to shut this down.
That's all admitted in court.
So he didn't order more products in the future.
He didn't do any of that stuff.
I mean, I think it's overwhelmingly clear the plan was to shut this place down.
Two plus two equals four.
So we're in a very precarious situation, but I know this.
You order the products now in the next three months, you get them.
We've got a very respected trustee now in my personal bankruptcy, which means they're over this company that I own.
And so I'm going to try to work with them.
And, you know, do all of that, even though it's not monetarily helps me.
I don't care about that.
I care about this operation.
They have a big Atlantic Monthly article about Alex Jones lost everything and still won.
I didn't lose anything.
You think I care about a farm?
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
100-something acres outside Austin, middle of nowhere?
You think I care about something like that?
No.
I care about the truth and justice.
So I didn't have all this money they claimed and the stuff they took.
In Texas, you've got your basic house and a car.
That's all I need.
I don't care.
They took nothing from me.
Alex Jones lost nothing and still won.
Because that stuff means nothing to me.
The Atlantic Monthly is owned by Steve Jobs' widow.
She's the most frequent visitor at Epstein Island.
Best friends with Ghislaine Maxwell.
Wait, what?
It is an honor and a pleasure to have the Epstein Island alumni hating my guts.
But they also lie in the article and say that Jones also said Parkland shooting in Florida was fake.
Never said that.
That's defamation.
I'm going to have my lawyers send them a letter to retract, or I'm going to sue them.
Haven't made that phone call yet when I got off air today.
unidentified
Do it.
alex jones
I'm saying, you send them a letter, we're suing them.
They say a bunch of stuff.
It's over.
We're getting ready to sue the FBI and the CIA when they're all on record saying they're running an operation against us.
Congress is involved.
The Senate has looked.
We're giving them documents.
So you think we're rolling over to your crap?
You think it's a one-way street when you do all this?
All you Justice Department people?
You'll see.
So that's where we are.
There's the owner of Atlantic Monthly, Steve Jobs' wife, the old Gislaine.
They're all compromised, they're all controlled, and they're liars.
But I'm digressing on hit news now.
Infowarstore.com, X2, back and stuff.
jordan holmes
That's the news!
alex jones
Got it!
Hitting the news!
What the fuck?
To get all these products.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, the news.
My plug was interrupted by my complaining about the Atlantic Monthly.
Please sue them.
Please, Alex.
jordan holmes
I mean, anything...
dan friesen
Please, sue the FBI.
Sue the CIA.
Just do it all.
jordan holmes
Everything.
dan friesen
This is the next stage.
This needs to be what he does next.
Continuing on with his show is kind of boring.
jordan holmes
There's no reason for it.
dan friesen
No.
Trump wins or doesn't.
And then there isn't really a next chapter for him as a pro-Trump fighter.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
We've already played out the Trump is in power and, oh, we've got to root out the deep state.
We'll get him.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
We've already done that sort of song and dance.
It's going to get really old really fast.
If Trump loses, then we're just back to that stasis.
Sue everybody!
jordan holmes
Even worse, the worst thing for all of these people, the absolute worst thing, is for Trump to reach the two-term limit and then just be done.
That's not a dramatic ending at all.
That's just how it's supposed to go.
dan friesen
For Alex, I mean...
This doesn't go out sort of in a gentle fade-out.
He needs to escalate his career to the next level, and that is trying to fight the actual government.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you want a Cooper without the guns.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that isn't going to happen unless...
You sue the CIA.
unidentified
Do it.
jordan holmes
He's got to do something.
dan friesen
Sue the Atlantic Monthly.
jordan holmes
What's great about it is that I'm on his team.
If he wins, all the money goes to the families.
I don't give a shit if he wins.
He's a funnel now.
dan friesen
I would be very interested to see how it plays out.
I'm not entirely sure I'm on his side because here's a little clip from March 27th, 2018, where Alex is talking to Ben Garrison about Parkland.
alex jones
Let me just tell you.
I've been told by Army Special Operations, the CIA, the Justice Department, the FBI.
Alex, you're not going far enough.
Parkland is fake.
And they go, we can't get into it.
It's classified, but you need to look into this.
And I mean, this is like real phone calls with Army generals and stuff.
This is not like me just saying this on air.
And that's why they're so scared of this broadcast.
So I didn't even think it was fake.
Then they flipped out and said that I said it was fake.
Ben?
Because they didn't even want anybody looking at it.
Exactly.
I mean, it's crazy.
dan friesen
Please fucking sue them.
Just do it.
Enjoy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
So another thing that might end up in courts is Alex's behavior vis-a-vis Dr. Jones Naturals.
Oh, yeah!
I think he is getting more and more brazen with the stuff that he's just saying on air.
jordan holmes
I can't believe this.
dan friesen
This next clip was shocking.
alex jones
But who knows what's going to happen?
That's where we're at.
So that's a little update there.
And then separately, very exciting, when I thought that InfoWars was going to be shut down a few weeks ago, I called my dad up and I said, well, they've kicked all your products out of the store that you developed, you designed, you built, you've already got your own shopping cart.
I said, you should probably get your TurboForce out of Denver, only 5,000 canisters left, and bring them to drjonesnaturals.com.
And he did.
They came in last week and it went on sale today.
43% off is the number they came up with.
43% off on 10-hour clean energy turbo force at drjonesnaturals.com.
dan friesen
Oh, so these are completely separate companies, but you're shifting inventory around based on your fear that you're going to get shifted.
jordan holmes
My God.
dan friesen
You're coordinating inventory and sales and all this with your dad, who's running this completely different company that is not at all.
Okay, man.
Sure.
Sure.
jordan holmes
I just...
I just don't know how you can get away with, uh, I thought I was going to be shut down.
First part of the sentence.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
So I called my dad.
Second part of the sentence.
dan friesen
Who runs a completely separate business.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
See, because they're in the same sentence now.
dan friesen
Ooh, yeah, they are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the problem.
dan friesen
I said you should get your stuff out of here and sell it on your website.
jordan holmes
Right, that would be smart.
That would be smart!
But instead of doing that...
dan friesen
Man, I just don't know how this isn't a huge problem.
Because it seems like it should be.
jordan holmes
I feel like committing a crime...
You should try to hide it.
Right?
That's the idea.
It's a crime!
dan friesen
I guess.
So, when you get into this deep of an ad, where you're...
You know, talking about the exciting announcement that iodine's back.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When you're talking about how you're going to sue the Atlantic monthly.
When you're admitting to coordinating inventory issues with your dad who runs a completely separate business.
jordan holmes
Completely separate business.
dan friesen
When you're that deep in it, sometimes it's hard to get out of the ad.
Sometimes the ad claws you back when you're trying to escape out of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And we see Alex struggle with that here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Fiber caps, green fibers, capsules are also discounted.
All right, I'm done plugging.
I thank you all very respectfully for your support.
unidentified
Let's now shift gears back into all of this news that we've got.
alex jones
I'm not pausing because I have lack of news.
I'm saying, you know, used to, I've been on here 30 years, it's all about 10 years ago, I would line up the stacks, because I don't like having to be on a laptop or something, because stories get changed, they get taken down, or computers go down, or internet gets slow, so I print everything.
But I used to have the stacks all in a row, and then I would just neurotically go through each stack in order, but then the stacks got bigger and bigger, so there was no way to do that.
Then it becomes this thing where, okay, My gosh, that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. I've covered four stacks, barely, and I've got all those other stacks.
A lot of these I'm covering next hour.
That's what I'm thinking about here.
Let's do this because it's really important.
I'm not going to air the whole thing because it's like eight minutes long, but it's Alex Jones.
Goes to the scene of the crime.
And this is in Michigan, in Detroit, where they stole the election in 2020.
TPUSA Action had their event with myself and Trump and J.D. Vance and Jack Posobiec there.
And it was amazing to be there.
dan friesen
As he plays a little video package about him going to Turning Point.
But what I'm trying to express, I think I said it the wrong way, is like, you couldn't get out of the ad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's not...
Sometimes you end up reverting to another ad, but instead he just couldn't get his wheels moving to get back into talking about anything else.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It felt like he was in molasses.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, just sitting there going like, I don't want to talk about this.
dan friesen
I don't want to do this.
jordan holmes
I don't want to do this job anymore.
I feel like what I'm hearing is I don't want to do this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The ambivalence to do something other than talk about how great your iodine is.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm looking at these news headlines in front of me.
These stories bore me.
I haven't read them.
Who gives a shit?
Yep.
Let's play that fucking video of me.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
At Turning Point.
Yeah.
Associating with and in the adjacency of really relevant, important people.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
And then also quoting Baron Harkonnen.
It's weird.
jordan holmes
Never a bad idea.
dan friesen
We talked about that on the last episode.
jordan holmes
Never a bad idea.
dan friesen
He's the good guy.
According to some.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Weird.
So, this next clip, this is...
I'm just going to give it to you up front.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex is going to introduce his gold sponsor.
Kirk Elliott.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They're going to do a little bit of an infomercial about how everybody's selling off the dollar and the economy's going to collapse and you need to buy gold.
All that stuff.
jordan holmes
No matter how things change, they stay the same.
dan friesen
Yes.
So I wanted to play this clip, but I wanted to give that away in advance.
Because sometimes I like to do a little bit of a rug pull.
But in this case, I wanted you to pay attention to and note...
How it's so obvious that he's ramping up to his gold sponsor while talking about everything else that is in this club.
alex jones
After we dropped my seven-year-old daughter off at summer camp this morning, and my wife and I were driving back to the house at about 8.30 in the morning, she looked at me and she said, what are we going to do?
She said, clearly everything you said is coming true.
You can see it everywhere.
The inflation is off the hook.
All these wars.
We need to get out of the city.
And I'm like, listen.
It's not safe anywhere.
The safest thing is to stop this from happening, not running.
And I get it.
If you're not on the air and you can move to the country and get away, that's smart.
Do it.
Not me.
I'm going down with a ship.
He said, okay, fine.
But when I get up here and I talk about this level of danger, folks, I'm not hyping it.
Like two and a half weeks ago, I said they're trying to close the doors.
They sent in feds to shut the doors.
People didn't believe it.
Then it came out in the corridor.
I was like, we're sorry.
We didn't believe you.
That's hard to believe.
You're not in a normal place anymore.
It's like Dorothy says to Toto, Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore.
I'm sorry that's the case.
I'm not the one doing this.
They want to act like it's my fault for exposing it.
No.
I'm trying to get people ready to deal with this.
So I don't know.
I said it'd be bird flu.
Now they're officially rolling that out.
And cyber attacks and expanded war.
And NATO announced two days ago, hey, we're going to put F-16s in other countries so Russia can't bomb them like Poland.
And we're going to bomb Russia with NATO pilots and NATO planes.
Folks, that is full World War III.
So Thursday live.
Yeah, that is.
And they got a lot of other tricks up their sleeve.
But the bubble is coming to an end.
And they need to get you scared to accept the central bank digital currencies and the unified ledger where they control and track and own everything you've got.
And they're the, quote, stewards of it.
It's like you're a brain-damaged child or something, and you don't have your rights, and somebody's your guardian.
It's not like that.
That's what this is.
So look, deadly bird flu, CNN, AP Reuters, could be worse than COVID as officials urge act now to save humanity.
See this?
All these different jurisdictions.
Seattle health officials suggest return to COVID precautions, including mass travel.
They're already killing cows and chickens all over the United States.
It's going down, folks.
So I wish we weren't in this situation, but at least we've been awake to it for a long time and warned people so we've got a fighting chance.
Imagine how bad it would be if people weren't wise to this, and more are wise every day.
So, Dr. Kirk Elliott was not planning to be on the show today, but he's very busy.
I called and begged him to come on.
Because he's the top silver broker in the country, like the second and third largest gold broker, because he has the best prices and best quality.
And yeah, I'm plugging.
You should go to him.
You should call.
You should get gold and silver right now.
dan friesen
So I'm not exactly sure why, but it felt very obvious to me to the point where when he said, Dr. Kirk Elliott, I pumped my fist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was like, got it.
I knew it.
I knew he was...
I just felt like this is a build-up for end-of-the-world shit.
It could have been some kind of a survival food, maybe.
But he mentioned economic stuff.
jordan holmes
It was the inflation early on.
The inflation was the one that got me.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was kind of a big marker.
jordan holmes
Because he doesn't really talk about inflation that much unless it's like...
unidentified
He does.
jordan holmes
He does a little.
But in like, oh, the Democrats suck and inflation's higher.
Not like inflation is part of the end of the world.
dan friesen
Nah, he does a little.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, I mean, I don't listen to every part of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, he does a tiny bit, but its presence in the story felt relevant.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is about that.
You just vibe it now.
I felt the vibe.
jordan holmes
You just feel it.
You feel the gold coming.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So they do a bit of an infomercial for gold and silver and stuff, and I don't really care.
jordan holmes
What good...
Okay.
And I'm not saying that it's, like, it's not possible that there will be a solid use for it or an economy or sort of black market economy might develop that involves gold or the like.
But I do feel like once NATO drops a bomb on Russia, right, I'm more interested in, like, water.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, gold seems like everything's gonna collapse real quick.
dan friesen
Well, but that's why you need the gold.
Because it has inherent value as opposed to all these currencies that are going to be, uh...
jordan holmes
Gold has inherent value?
dan friesen
Yeah, because it always has.
It stores value.
And everybody wants it because it's shiny.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I understand these guys, but, man, World War III feels like a post-Gold War.
dan friesen
Well, another thing is that Kirk is pushing the idea that there's an opportunity for a short squeeze on silver.
jordan holmes
A short squeeze on silver?
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
So everybody's shorting it, and you can pull one of those moves on it by getting it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So buy his.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So that's going on.
jordan holmes
Cool.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex gets into international politics a little bit.
Talks a little bit about German far-right political party.
jordan holmes
Good people?
dan friesen
Milk toast.
jordan holmes
Milk toast.
I'm sorry, the German far-right is milk toast for Alex?
dan friesen
Kind of like Ron Paul.
alex jones
Meanwhile, Germany moves closer to banning AFD, which is now the largest majority party in Germany, but it's a parliamentary system, so they're still outnumbered by the other parties.
So what does the German government do?
Well, you got double the votes we got in the last election two weeks ago.
We'll just ban you.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
And by the way, AFD is like milquetoast conservative.
Like, I'm not a super hardcore right-winger compared to some people, as you know.
I'm more of a populist Christian.
More of, that's what I am.
But my politics are more reliable than what we call right-wing.
Those are just terms.
But, I mean, AFD is like kind of Ron Paul-ish.
So they want to ban it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Ron Paul-ish.
jordan holmes
I am feeling, I know, I know it's 1937 when I'm hearing the right in America go, Hitler's not that bad.
dan friesen
He's kind of a middle of the road.
Alex is talking about how people are getting in trouble for singing a song.
Jesus Christ.
Now that song is Migrants Get Out, but they're getting in trouble for just going around and singing a song.
jordan holmes
It's just a song!
Listen, it's never gone out of control from here, especially not in Germany.
dan friesen
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Great, great, great, great, great.
dan friesen
Just going to normalize and middle road this thing.
That's a good idea.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
So there's social media, obviously a preoccupation of Alex's.
There was a meme that was going around.
I don't know if you saw this.
But it was talking, it broke up the country into regions.
jordan holmes
Oh, like Hunger Games regions?
dan friesen
Kind of.
It was like, who would win in a war?
Would it be the West Coast, the East Coast, the South, Midwest?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
What have you.
Alex has some thoughts about this.
alex jones
I posted on X yesterday.
jordan holmes
We're fantasy booking the Civil War?
Okay.
alex jones
I'll show you an overhead shot of it.
And it shows the United States broken up into four regions.
The West, the Midwest, the Northeast, and the South.
And folks asked, posted it, if we split the U.S. and went to war, who would win?
I'll give you the answer in just a moment, in my view.
But here's a larger shot of the map.
And of course, the lines aren't really exactly drawn.
But let's just take this fantasy at face value and look at that and then talk about real world.
dan friesen
Let's do it.
Let's take this fantasy and then let's talk about the real world.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
Why not?
jordan holmes
No!
Let's take my fantasy at face value.
All right?
Here's what we do instead.
All right?
Because I get it.
People are from different areas and they feel like they don't belong sometimes.
I understand.
Right?
But we can't be fighting wars every time people don't feel like they belong.
However, we can be playing Red Rover.
So if you're Midwestern and you're in the West, you know, you guys have a whole Red Rover thing going on.
Because I bet people from the Midwest don't all want to live here.
But I bet people from the West don't all want to live in the West.
Maybe we don't kill each other.
We just swap.
dan friesen
You forget an important element of Red Rover, which is that you...
It's about borders.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The game itself is about trying to create a line that other people can't cross.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You seem to forget the mechanics of the game.
jordan holmes
I do seem to forget.
dan friesen
You think it's just people running across a field.
jordan holmes
I think it's just people running across a field.
dan friesen
You need to remember game rules, bro.
jordan holmes
I forgot about the part where you have to...
Because nobody could ever stop me.
I was always a bit of a bigger kid.
dan friesen
Oh, must be nice.
Must be nice to be good at Red Rover.
jordan holmes
Yes, I was great at Red Rover.
I was the top Red Rover guy.
dan friesen
See, this is your privilege showing that you don't even know the rules because we're unstoppable.
jordan holmes
I was one of the top five Red Rover kids in his 95th percentile.
dan friesen
So there's an interesting dynamic that's going on here, which is Alex is trying to say no one wins in a civil war.
There would not be a winner in any of this.
The globalists would win if we all broke off into four sections of the United States and fought each other.
But also the South would win.
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
That's going to be the, like, hey, nobody should do anything but go Wake Forest!
Okay, great.
dan friesen
The globalists want us all to fight each other, and it's silly to even engage with these kinds of ideas, but the South will rise again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
That is the whole thing going on here.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
alex jones
Now, in a real world, it's not going to be Texas and Florida and Alabama and Georgia and Oklahoma.
And Arkansas and Louisiana and the rest of it against these states.
You're going to have small cities that are globalist controlled that go along with it.
But you're going to have all of these people instantly join, if this was a real fight, the South.
You're going to have almost all the Midwest except for Detroit and Minneapolis and Chicago join.
You're going to have most of the people in Pennsylvania and rural areas join as well.
So if you actually put up a map, because they usually put the maps up according to states.
Like, you'll see a whole bunch of red states and a few blue states.
But those blue states are the most populous, but it's actually the cities.
If you go to an actual blue and red map, go to an actual county-by-county map of Republican versus Democrat.
Type in U.S. map, county-by-county, U.S. map, county-by-county, blue versus red.
You'll see it's just little blue spots.
Like a herpes infection or the black plague or whatever you want to call it.
Some type of thing that's happening.
I don't mean black people there.
I'm just talking about disease.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
Dude, come on, man.
alex jones
So does smallpox, chickenpox, whatever.
So you see those chickenpox things on there?
Yeah, there it is.
So this idea that it's regions against each other is not true.
You would instantly have...
80% of the country geographically and 60 plus percent of the populations regardless joining that.
But if it was, we were dumb enough to fight each other over whether we're from the Northeast or the Midwest or the West or the South, then the South would win.
Doesn't matter how much fake money New York City's got, none of that has value and we don't accept it.
dan friesen
Okay, so the South would win, but also in the real world, all of these other places would join the South.
jordan holmes
Fine.
I'm not.
Nah.
unidentified
Nah.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I could easily get dragged into this.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But no.
dan friesen
Well, here's the, you know, you were mentioning a challenge earlier.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Here's the challenge that I would have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Get off fucking social media.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Who cares?
Who cares about this map?
I don't care about your thoughts about it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I get it.
You love the South.
unidentified
Totally.
Cool.
dan friesen
Everyone's going to join the South.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Whatever.
Your Confederate royalty.
It's just exhausting.
alex jones
Let me tell you who wins in a fight between the South and the North and the Midwest and the West.
You know who wins this?
jordan holmes
Who?
alex jones
Not the people.
Nobody that's dumb enough to be in this fight that the South would win, technically.
unidentified
Oh my God.
alex jones
Nobody.
Because everybody's moving from the Northeast and the West and from the Northern Midwest here.
Not because we're perfect, but because we haven't gotten all the communist ideologies fully in place yet.
We're sinking fast.
Don't worry.
We're just the best house in a bad neighborhood.
Let's not start celebrating the South saying it's got everything together.
It don't.
But yeah, this would win.
But the globalists would win in that fight.
It's a stupid fight.
It's not going to happen.
dan friesen
It's a stupid fight, but it's less stupid for the South because the South would win.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Shut up.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
You saw a meme.
I get it.
jordan holmes
You know, it's part of the identity thing, so I get it.
But I mean, I just don't get that whole regional pride.
I don't get school spirit.
I don't get any of that shit.
I've never had any.
I don't care where I'm from.
This isn't my place.
I wasn't...
This is all Native American life.
I don't care.
Right?
Like, I don't understand this whole, like, oh, the South.
unidentified
What are you fucking talking about, the South?
dan friesen
The South.
I have a little bit of, you know, sort of Midwestern identity, I guess.
Do you?
Having lived in the Midwest for a while.
But, yeah, I don't know how much I cling to it.
unidentified
I mean, I'm scared of mountains.
jordan holmes
I don't know if that's an identity so much as it is, like, I haven't seen these from flat land.
dan friesen
Yeah, that could be part of your internal core.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex complains a little bit in this next clip.
He's talking about how he doesn't want there to be a race war, which is good.
jordan holmes
That is nice of him.
dan friesen
On the surface, I would say good.
No race war.
And then he complains about something that's pretty funny, which is he's been swearing too much on air lately.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
alex jones
So Louis Farrakhan tells black people to take the shot, but all those paid black activists that are pushing Black Lives Matter into vision...
They're the ones, though, that said you need to roll your sleeve up and take the shot because we really care about you.
Do you think these globals who want to kill black people are going to hire a white person to push it on them?
No, because you're going to listen to them.
But you're going to listen to a black face, at least some of you are.
So let's stop killing each other.
Let's stop acting like a bunch of assholes.
Excuse my French.
Delay that.
I've had a lot of complaints from stations about profanity.
The delays had a problem a few weeks ago.
Plus, we've got so many clips, it's hard to catch it all.
The callers call in.
The Democrats are cussing on every station.
They don't get in trouble, but we're conservatives.
That's how we're seen.
I'm a populist Christian.
And so, our stations get in trouble when that happens.
I've got to be really careful.
No more cussing.
I've got to be really careful about that.
I promise the stations.
Some of them are 50,000 waters.
They're great.
I said, I promise I'll clean my act up.
And I mean it if I do it.
Now, sometimes the whole world's falling down around you.
It's good to have a good cuss word.
I got a big vocabulary, but sometimes I just want to say, you want me to censor myself and you'll cut my money off?
You know what Elon Musk said on national TV?
It was okay when he said it.
He said, go F yourself.
I mean, sometimes it's kind of an F word.
When we learn they killed 35 million of us with shots, I want to say, F you!
But I get it.
How about I'm going to beat you?
I'm going to get you.
We're going to stop you.
dan friesen
Okay, man.
That's cool.
So yeah, he's not really on that many radio stations, but he has been swearing like crazy lately.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
It has really ramped up, and it's not a problem with the delay.
I don't believe that for a second.
I think one of the real big influences is that he's not always taking calls.
Sometimes we're taking calls from Twitter, and people on Twitter...
They don't play by the same games.
jordan holmes
They're not terrestrial radio.
dan friesen
He'd swear a lot.
And he would just let fake Elon Musk swear all he wanted.
That kind of broke open a damn of it.
It's a free-for-all.
It's just fucking cuss all we want.
And, I mean, whatever stations there are, I can imagine they don't appreciate it.
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I would say this.
If you're still running, Alex...
Chances are you were running the Sandy Hook shit, so go fuck yourself if you think that swearing is worse than that.
dan friesen
True.
Also, there's something really funny about, like, you know, sometimes you need to swear.
Like, F you!
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's...
dan friesen
He's saying that sometimes you get to a point where you need to swear and then censoring himself, which is...
There's an irony there that's a little bit of an act.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's annoying.
dan friesen
So, Alex has a big guest on the show.
He...
He's been teasing all episode that he's got a big guest.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he's very excited to have this person on.
It's someone named Billy Carson.
I don't know if you've ever heard of him.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
dan friesen
But here's Alex giving a little intro.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All right, I've known about this guy for years, and I meant to get him on, but I've seen him recently on Joe Rogan and any other big podcast, knocking it out of the park.
He's Billy Carson, and I don't normally read the full bio of a guest, but we should read his.
Very interesting fellow, literally a rocket scientist.
Billy Carson is the founder and CEO of Forbidden Knowledge, Inc., best-selling author of The Compendium of the Emerald Tablets, The Book Doesn't Mean Broke, and The Epic of Humanity.
dan friesen
So yeah, I don't know if this guy's a rocket scientist, but you might have missed that in his resume.
He wrote a book called The Compendium of the Emerald Tablets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I did not miss that.
unidentified
You didn't?
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
I saw that one.
I was shocked that Alex included that in the resume that he read off.
That is a book that this dude wrote in 2019 discussing the 36,000-year-old emerald tablets written by Thoth, the priest-king of Atlantis.
jordan holmes
So that's what I was wondering.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I was wondering who wrote them.
That was my first question.
dan friesen
Thoth.
Yeah.
The priest-king of Atlantis.
unidentified
Man.
jordan holmes
That's terrible.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That is really terrible.
dan friesen
This guy was just on Rogan, and he said some stuff that Alex liked, and so that's why he's on.
But yeah, he wrote a book about Thoth's tablets.
jordan holmes
Okay, so we introduce a guy as a rocket scientist, but his second book is about 36,000-year-old emerald tablets.
dan friesen
That's the first one that Alex listed.
unidentified
The second one was Woke Isn't Broke.
dan friesen
That's like a way to...
jordan holmes
How about that?
dan friesen
Making money kind of book.
The other one, he has some other books that are just basically like decoding the Matrix.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he's got 36,000-year-old emerald tablets.
He's also got like, hey, DEI, it's bad for you, but you'll make money if you're a racist.
And then he's got like, hey, watch out for bears.
Like, that's it?
Like, that's who this guy is?
dan friesen
I guess so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So he's got some interesting things he's bringing to the table.
And I'll just let this play.
jordan holmes
Let's see.
billy carson
If you look into the Epic of Gilgamesh, for example, you'll discover that in the Epic of Gilgamesh, Enlil, one of these Anunnaki gods from the Sumerian texts, he says the human beings are becoming too populous.
There's just too many of them.
They're making too much noise and clamoring around and hard to control.
Kill them off.
Cull them.
Dry out their crops so they will starve to death.
Poison them.
alex jones
So that's why every ancient culture starts human sacrifice in all this.
And as you said, this goes back to the Sumerians, 4,000 years.
So this stuff that gets picked up by Plato 2,300 years ago, they didn't invent this.
They say it came from aliens.
billy carson
Right, exactly.
All indigenous cultures...
Around the entire planet have the same verbal hand.
Some have already written it into text stone and cave drawings.
They're saying that people from the stars came to earth, turned mud into a kingdom, and in some way engaged mankind like in the Book of Enoch.
The first thing they do in the Book of Enoch, Azazel comes down from the heavens to earth.
And he teaches human beings how to smoke iron, how to make a steel blade that can cut a man's head off, how to make a breastplate, how to make a shield, and how to go to war.
So he taught death instantaneously.
So we're talking about, in some level, in some way, we got engaged by an advanced race of people, and when an advanced race of people engage a less advanced race of people, the less advanced race will deify them.
These people masqueraded as gods, even though they were not gods.
alex jones
And so you're talking about fallen angels that know we can grow into an advanced civilization.
They come to sabotage us by giving us an evil twist on technology.
billy carson
Exactly.
dan friesen
Sure.
Sure.
Makes sense.
Yep.
I think there's this, you know, like on a recent episode we had the Flat Earther effect.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is more than able to be critical when he needs to.
But in this kind of situation, it's because it's compatible with what he sells.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is within the business model, whereas Flat Earth stuff is not, and he's able to engage with that stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
He's not going to be saying that to Billy Carson, because this is all just like demon shit, and the demon shit works for him.
Okay, you think they're ancient aliens?
Great.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
It's the same difference.
Yeah.
Hazel's an alien, a demon, whatever.
dan friesen
And loyal, and key.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Let's go for it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It doesn't matter that earlier in the show I was like, uh, I identify as a populist Christian.
Very, very important to the Christian faith to me.
And then to talk about this as a complete, like, ah, anything in the Bible is bullshit.
You can make it up any way you want.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that's all demons, right?
Yeah.
And you can fill in a lot of gaps with that.
jordan holmes
Magic helps a lot whenever you're filling in gaps.
dan friesen
It does.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you know Gilgamesh?
jordan holmes
I have heard.
Heard of Gilgamesh.
dan friesen
Did you know that he was half Anunnaki?
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Well, get ready to learn.
jordan holmes
All right.
billy carson
Well, Gilgamesh, for example, is a giant.
He was half human and half Anunnaki.
So he was what they call a demigod in ancient times.
A giant man.
You can see him always holding a lion in his arms.
With one arm, he's holding up a lion.
He goes on this hero's journey, to make a long story short.
alex jones
So a lion was like a house cat.
He was so big.
billy carson
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
A lion was like a house cat.
billy carson
He had a guy that went along with him, and that guy was actually a manufactured man.
In other words, like a cyborg.
They said that they fashioned this guy for him.
He didn't come out of a womb.
And he goes on this journey.
Enkidu goes on a journey with him.
They end up killing this technological device in the woods, and they end up meeting up with Unapishtim, or also his name is Ziazedra, right?
That's also known as Noah from the biblical text.
And he's seeking immortality, and Noah tells him where to go get this special plant that can allow him to live for many thousands of years.
He ends up losing the plant as a snake ate it.
However, he discovers that the whole Noah story is inside of this text.
And in that text, for example, Noah's given some instructions on how to build an ark, but not a giant boat.
he's given the instruction on how to build a circular boat or a circular craft of some type.
He's not told to get all the animals.
He's told to get the animals of his local life.
A more practical idea.
And by the way, that's what the whole movie Prometheus is about.
alex jones
They admit that.
None of the elites are atheists.
They actually believe about this whole plan.
billy carson
Yes, they know all about it.
dan friesen
They know all about it.
I saw Prometheus.
jordan holmes
They know all about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, this is a little bit Camelot-y.
A little Project Camelotti.
jordan holmes
It's not bad.
dan friesen
But it's not really that interesting either.
jordan holmes
It doesn't have the big swing.
dan friesen
No.
Well, I mean, it is a big swing in some way, but it's just, I don't know what it is, but it's just like, I've heard ancient alien stuff before.
unidentified
It's said that the guy's here, he's a guy, then he's a demigod, and then it's, it's, it's silly that this is on InfoWars, but that is about it.
dan friesen
You know, like, it's just ancient alien shit that's on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So after a little while of listening to it, I was just like, all right, I'm done.
billy carson
So these people came in.
So, for example, Enlil had a brother named Enki.
No, Eon Enki, who actually to earth is...
Cool.
The gossip.
Humans were just nothing but animals, and they could be culled and killed off whenever they felt.
And unfortunately, his mindset was the mindset that took over.
alex jones
And we see those two mind steps today.
It's still those two mind steps.
billy carson
Correct.
Still here today.
Nothing's changed.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I just, I don't know.
That's not how Earth got its name.
But I just kind of don't care.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And just hearing ancient alien shit, this episode, like, Obviously, he had his gold sponsor on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I get the vibe that maybe this is maybe brokered programming.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's definitely that.
dan friesen
He's just talking about Ed Lill and Ed King.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Read some Zacharias itching.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
This is like somebody got snow crashed when they were young and then just didn't change.
dan friesen
I think that there's an incoherence on Alex's part in terms of messaging.
And including some of this stuff while yelling about how I don't talk about alien shit.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a little bit annoying.
Yeah.
I mean, what...
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
It's so hard.
And I imagine it's easy for them now because they've been doing it for so long.
And you'd think that I would have gotten better at it by now at least.
But I mean the whiplash of like nuclear war is coming.
To then, like, hey man, Enki and Enlil were on some crazy dope.
I'm gonna teach you kids about the past.
dan friesen
These aliens or demons or something, I guess, that came around and talked to all of our ancestors and taught them how to make swords and shit like that.
jordan holmes
And here's the real Noah story.
dan friesen
One of them liked humans, one didn't.
And that dichotomy still exists to this day in the globalists and the Rockefellers.
jordan holmes
Sir?
Two things.
One, semiotics exists.
Go read about it.
Don't Google it.
It doesn't work anymore.
Two, just go.
dan friesen
I just found it disheartening, I guess.
We're just doing ancient aliens.
unidentified
Yeah, it's not that good.
dan friesen
When a subject like this comes up, I think maybe Eddie Bravo ruined it.
Because I want it to be that.
I want it to be like...
There's a back and forth to it.
Instead of, like, Alex just signing off on all the Eric Von Daniken, Ancient Aliens nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
Stop.
dan friesen
Just a bummer.
jordan holmes
Just, yeah.
I mean, you don't need the money because you can't use it.
dan friesen
Maybe he does.
And that's why his dad's moving inventory over to the...
jordan holmes
I mean, again, that shouldn't...
You should not be...
If that is said out loud, there should be...
How about this, okay?
If there were any sort of god or demons or anything like that, it would be an affront to said god to be that obvious about a crime you're trying to get away with.
dan friesen
Yeah, and quite honestly, this episode, there's not a whole lot going on, and a lot of it is a little bit annoying, but if only for that moment where Alex is talking about coordinating with his dad.
I mean, what?
That cannot be ignored.
jordan holmes
It can't.
It just can't.
dan friesen
Outrageous.
jordan holmes
That's a crime.
I don't know what else to do.
dan friesen
Definitely feels like it.
jordan holmes
I just don't know what else to say.
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll be back with another episode.
Check in.
See how the shipments are going between his dad and his unrelated businesses.
jordan holmes
Completely separate business.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We are also not on social media.
jordan holmes
We are not.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterio.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
Export Selection