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June 3, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
03:45:43
#930: May 30-June 1, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan catch up with Alex to see how he experienced the Trump verdict, what he thinks about flat earthers, and how to have a really rough Saturday.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
01:05:45
d
dan friesen
01:24:54
j
jordan holmes
50:56
Appearances
c
chase geiser
01:17
d
david weiss
01:35
h
harrison smith
01:08
m
michael flynn
01:19
o
owen shroyer
03:20
Clips
e
eddie bravo
00:14
j
jacob chansley
00:51
j
jay dyer
00:05
m
matt bracken
00:02
n
nick fuentes
00:01
n
nick sortor
00:18
p
pastor david manning
00:02
p
pat mcgill
00:10
r
roger stone
00:04
s
steve bannon
00:18
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
harrison smith
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I need, I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your word.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
You go first.
jordan holmes
My bright spot is going to continue to be the French Open, my friend.
dan friesen
Going along nicely.
jordan holmes
You know what?
It's such a great tournament this year.
And it is obvious.
You know, like, everybody is playing their...
As hard as they possibly can.
Sure.
Their hearts out.
dan friesen
They're doing it for Rafa.
jordan holmes
No, they're doing it because Rafa's not there.
Like, that's what's fun about it.
I mean, it is like, when you think about it, for most of these people's entire lives, almost two decades, almost two full decades, the best you could do was get your ass kicked by it.
If you had the best French Open of your fucking life, it would wind up with you getting your ass absolutely embarrassed by Rafa.
dan friesen
On that clay.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
And now everybody's like, man, I might actually win this fucking thing.
dan friesen
So is Zverev still in it?
jordan holmes
He is.
dan friesen
You were saying he is your favorite?
jordan holmes
Survived a long five-set match, almost lost.
Djokovic, five sets, almost lost.
Like, it has been a fight.
dan friesen
That is intense.
jordan holmes
Everybody is fighting their asses off.
It's great.
It's great.
dan friesen
I'm happy for you, and that's thrilling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's fantastic.
dan friesen
We'll crown a new winner.
jordan holmes
That is the goal.
unidentified
Unless...
jordan holmes
Horrible things happen.
dan friesen
Someone gets injured, Rafa comes back in.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
That would be an interesting pro-wrestling move as if he just...
unidentified
Oh, my God!
jordan holmes
He descends from the ceiling.
dan friesen
You just hear Jim Ross.
Oh, my God!
It's Rafa!
jordan holmes
It's Rafa!
Dressed like Sting.
Right.
Sliding down there.
I like it.
dan friesen
Got the crow makeup.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like it.
I think I could do that.
dan friesen
That'd be fun.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
What's your...
dan friesen
No time for bullshit.
jordan holmes
No time.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
None.
Bullshit achieved.
dan friesen
No, no, that's my bright spot.
There's no time for bullshit.
jordan holmes
No time for bullshit.
dan friesen
Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like tennis is bullshit.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, it is bullshit.
dan friesen
I got no time.
jordan holmes
You've got no time.
dan friesen
No time.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
What a weekend.
I guess my bright spot is that I bought patriotic frosted sugar cookies to get me through what was going on this weekend.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Timing.
Timing is the issue.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
So we recorded our last episode on Thursday.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And as soon as we finished recording, we realized that Trump had been convicted.
jordan holmes
Immediately out of date.
dan friesen
Pointless.
Immediately felt like...
unidentified
Oh, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, you knew when we were coming around to do an episode for Monday, gotta cover Alex's response to the Trump conviction.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
So, obviously, we're gonna be covering the 30th.
jordan holmes
Easy peasy.
dan friesen
The Friday's episode.
Right.
Thursday and Friday.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
Then, everything went to shit.
This weekend was insane.
Alex was on air almost all day on Saturday.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
Yes.
dan friesen
And so I needed those patriotic cookies to get me through, and man, this episode's a mess.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That's my bright spot, I guess.
This episode is a mess.
jordan holmes
It's a mess.
dan friesen
I have more clips than I would like.
Uh-oh.
Shit goes so wild, it doesn't even matter that Trump got convicted by the end of this thing.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
What you think is going to be the most important thing in the world is just like...
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Nah.
Not even very interesting at this point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on all of this, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Master Galen, thank you for believing in this weird little guy's medieval dreams.
I'm proud to be your man-at-arms.
Love you, buddy.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Evil Jordan be like saying hi to some new wonks is a terrible idea.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Tristan B. and Audrey say sorry for the English.
We're French.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we had a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to AtChurchOfGTA.
You are now a technocrat.
And Sarah is on a little breaky for now, but Tojo hopes she gets better soon.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I feel like I'm rushing through things a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I need to remind myself to take a breath and slow down.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I feel like Alex in front of all the stacks of paper.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
We got a lot to get through.
There's just so much to get through.
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
I'm remembering various things that are going to come up, and I'm like, there's just no way.
There's no way.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So here's a little out of context drop from today's episode.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
I'm serious, folks.
This is, like, so fucked up.
I mean, it's just...
This is so fucked up.
It's just, like, such fucking people.
dan friesen
So fucked up.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
Well, you told me before the show to buckle up.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I have double buckled.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Now I know we're on full fucked up territory.
dan friesen
Oh, it's so fucked up.
jordan holmes
Everything's so fucked up.
dan friesen
So we're going to start here on the 30th, on May 30th.
And obviously Trump was convicted.
Later in the day.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So Alex is on air before the conviction happens, but everyone's pretty sure he's going to be convicted.
jordan holmes
He committed crimes!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
And so there isn't a lot of delusion or anything, or trying to pretend that it's not going to happen.
We're in excuse-making times.
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, May 20th, 2024.
The New York jury in the historic show trial asked to have the instructions read of them again.
They were confused.
So was the whole world.
And the judge reissued them the same way.
You don't have to find unanimously he committed a crime.
You can all pick different crimes and just say he's a criminal.
Top lawyers, both liberal and conservative, have chimed in.
They say that's completely illegal and absolutely unprecedented in...
English common law and U.S. law, it is unbelievable.
He's not putting his thumb on the scale, he's putting his tyrannical fat ass on it.
And President Trump has come out and just destroyed it.
dan friesen
He's just destroyed that shit.
So this is one of the big Trump world talking points in the lead-up to the end of the trial.
In a situation like the one they were facing, it's always in your best interest to prepare narratives for the worst-case scenario, in this instance, Trump being convicted.
What Alex and his ilk have done is to create in advance a justification for why Trump got convicted, which actually works just fine if Trump is found not guilty.
He was convicted because of unprecedented jury instructions.
That works just as well as they tried everything to get Trump, including unprecedented jury instructions, and none of it worked.
This is a common genre of narrative for Alex to promote these days because there's no downside.
It has the same vibe as the preemptive election-stealing rhetoric in that you build up a storyline as to why you could possibly lose while being fully compatible with a possible future where you win.
Alex is drawn to narratives like this because what he's doing is a game and these narratives are cheap and easy.
In terms of reality what Alex is saying is not true.
He's exploiting a little patch of vagueness in this case because he's a liar and he just spouts whatever the Trump line is for the day.
Interestingly, the New York Times published an article on May 30th this same day saying that this particular line, that the judge had told the jurors that they, quote, could individually choose from a menu of different crimes to find the former president guilty so long as the total of votes added up to 12. They said that this started with a tweet posted by Fox News anchor John Roberts.
Alex had been putting out this talking point for at least a day or two at this point.
So Roberts likely got it from InfoWars or from some shared source.
which is probably a more obscure Twitter account.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
The explanation for this is that Judge Marchand instructed the jury that for each of the 34 felony counts, they would need to reach a unanimous decision to convict.
The crime charged was falsifying business records in the first degree, which requires that the person accused be falsifying those records with the, quote, intent to commit another crime or aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Right.
unidentified
This is directly from the judge's instructions given to the jury.
dan friesen
Quote, Section 17-152.
of the New York election law provides that any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties there too shall be guilty of conspiracy to promote or prevent an election.
The instructions go on, quote, So that is the vagueness and the area where they're like, Oh, you just pick whatever crime you want!
It's a bunch of nonsense.
unidentified
Oh, for God's sakes.
dan friesen
Yeah, but, you know, something like that was going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Something like that was going to be glommed onto and turned into, like, the reason why the system got him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
The conservative, like...
The ideology, the leadership, everything about it is built around that kid who would always find some excuse for why even though you won at Foursquare, actually you lost and he won at Foursquare.
Something like that.
It's the whiny kid who's going to...
You're a loser.
You're going to be a loser forever, but you win because nobody wants to fucking beat the shit out of you or you have to go home.
It's just that's what it is.
That's all of it.
dan friesen
If that kid's the president.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is like...
That's what you're hanging your head up?
The judge gave bad instructions?
That's what you've got.
Not like we won the game, no.
dan friesen
Obviously, it'll be overturned.
jordan holmes
Loser.
dan friesen
Because this is so obvious.
unidentified
Loser.
dan friesen
It is a little loser.
jordan holmes
Loser shit!
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex obviously has Chase Geyser in to do some spaces.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And to take some calls.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
On Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Because Chase is in the space, yeah.
dan friesen
You gotta talk about the Trump conviction.
With the people.
jordan holmes
Ooh, I say they should call him Chases now.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
I think it'd be a great idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think if Chase gets some branding.
unidentified
The Chase Space.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh man, that's great.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's right there.
jordan holmes
He needs to keep his job.
dan friesen
So he, this is interesting.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
When we get to the end of this episode, we'll loop back to your thoughts on this.
jordan holmes
Nobody's going to keep their job.
Okay.
dan friesen
So Chase is hearing some stuff, some chatter from people in his immediate orbit that is a little bit disconcerting.
chase geiser
You know, what alarms me the most about all of this is I have people that are very close to me that I trust, long-time friends, 10 years, and in these various chat groups that I'm in, I hear whisperings and murmurings, and I see it online, too, where...
People are having very rowdy ideas about what they think should be done in the event of a false conviction.
And if you look back on...
alex jones
Yeah, we don't want that.
That's the real theory.
They're turning the temperature up, as Klaus Schwab said, Angrier World, hoping people get pissed.
So that is the genius of the evil.
You just nailed it.
chase geiser
Yeah, I think that's it.
And I'm concerned about that.
I think there's a lot of things, obviously, that can be done before...
We turn to violence.
alex jones
Violence is not the answer.
We're winning culturally.
They're going to have to stage up and blame us.
chase geiser
No violence.
They want to provoke us to act irrationally because then they can bring the hammer down harder than us.
alex jones
Well, look how they provocateur January 6th.
chase geiser
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So he has got a bunch of friends who are clearly talking about violence.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, there are whisperings and murmurings that you're hearing about.
Aren't you just listening to your friends say, we should kill people?
dan friesen
Yes, and then Alex is saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And also, that's fake.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right, right.
You don't know those people.
dan friesen
The globalists want you to think that your friends are saying, let's kill people.
jordan holmes
But they're not, because they don't exist.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
Those whisperings and murmurings, not real.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, there's not a whole lot.
Actually to cover about this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The response isn't really that much of an outburst.
There's not really all that interesting stuff going on.
It's just a lot of...
jordan holmes
I mean, everybody knows he did it.
He did this.
Right?
We wasted everybody's time.
We all know he did this stuff.
It's not about that.
dan friesen
It's a lot of, like, hey, the jury instructions, the judge, they're gonna get an appeal, Trump's gonna win.
jordan holmes
I get what we're all doing.
dan friesen
That's just a lot of the show.
jordan holmes
I get what we have to do, but I mean, it did feel like we should just get to the point where they go, are you gonna put him in jail or not?
Because if you give him, like, six months probation and a $100,000 fine, you have wasted everybody's time more immensely than I can imagine.
dan friesen
Well, we're gonna get to that point in a month, I think, right?
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ!
dan friesen
That's when the...
jordan holmes
Oh my god, this legal system needs to stop.
It needs to be stopped.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on.
He has Darren Beattie, who is the guy who is the...
He was a Trump advisor going to get fired, and he was one of the people in the January 6th debate with Glenn Greenwald.
He was the guy who sounded like he was twirling his pants.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was that guy.
dan friesen
So he's on, and he's kind of like, I think we're doing great.
He's like, I would have expected things to be way worse, honestly, right now.
And I think Trump's going to win and everything is going great.
Alex is trying to be a little bit more doom-ish.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Darren's not really playing along all that well.
jordan holmes
And the money's in the doom, but I think Darren's probably got a good position.
dan friesen
These guys are both like, hey, if Trump gets convicted, it'd probably be good.
jordan holmes
It'd probably be good.
dan friesen
Yeah, which is fucked up.
alex jones
That's really the paradox here.
Like, if I was a Democrat being evil...
They would just have him found not guilty and move on and forget it.
But instead, I think it's better for Trump if he gets convicted.
I mean, that's what I think.
dan friesen
Yeah.
michael flynn
I think so, too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Everybody got what they wanted.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
People who didn't like Trump wanted him to get convicted because he's guilty, and these people wanted him to get convicted because it's better for their shit, better for Trump can use it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, we were texting.
You were a little jealous that I didn't know anything about what was going on.
And I told you because I've been off the internet.
I've been kind of committed to staying off the internet, getting my news through books.
Man, this is a waste of...
Like, that is so infuriating.
dan friesen
It is a little bit.
jordan holmes
It is so infuriating that we couldn't just skip past the shit where you whined for fucking months!
dan friesen
You want him to get convicted!
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
You do too, Alex?
jordan holmes
Just fucking goddammit!
Can't we just skip?
Is everybody just bored?
dan friesen
This is so much, I think, similar to, like, in reality, they wanted Hillary to win.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Like, they wanted the thing that the other side wanted.
jordan holmes
Nobody wants an insane person to kill people!
That's terrible!
dan friesen
And you don't want your weird demagogue fucked up idiot to actually be in charge.
jordan holmes
He's insane!
We know that!
dan friesen
You want him to be not in charge.
Like, 2020 is much better for them.
Him getting screwed.
Screwed out of the presidency or whatever.
So much better.
And I think that Alex is like, yeah, getting convicted is way fucking better.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what should have happened in 2020 should have happened in 2016, and then they wouldn't have all lost their minds.
Because it happened in 2020 after they had already flown their flag upside down, metaphorically speaking, with the election of Trump, right?
Then they lost their minds, and then after 2020 happened, they couldn't control themselves, then they all get sued, all that stuff horrible happened.
If it happens in 2016, they're like, ah, oh no!
dan friesen
I think a slimmer group, a slimmer margin of the population loses their mind.
But there is still, I think, I still think we got a problem.
jordan holmes
Our minds are not great, yeah.
dan friesen
I just decided that, fuck, I don't care.
We have to move on.
jordan holmes
Gotta go.
dan friesen
So we're jumping to the 31st now.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're jumping to Friday.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And I thought I was going to be able to give this episode short shrift, too.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because of Saturday.
Right.
Because, like I said, he's on air pretty much the whole day.
jordan holmes
The whole day.
dan friesen
Okay.
But, unfortunately, this episode needed to be covered.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
We're doing 800 clips.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
Not since Endgame.
All right.
dan friesen
This is not going to be nine hours, but there is a part of me that is worried.
So we start off on the 31st, and most of this show is about Alex being like, shit, there's going to be false flags.
jordan holmes
There is.
dan friesen
Yeah, because Trump got convicted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We need to really lay some groundwork here about how there's going to be false flags.
alex jones
All right, the show trial verdict has completely blown up in the Democrat deep state's face.
But everybody getting so excited needs to listen to me and listen real good.
I've been telling you for years, they're going to stage big false flag attacks in the lead up to the election and blame Trump supporters.
And I came out while the verdict was still being read.
And I said, you watch, they're going to go cull the internet and anonymous posters and say, look.
The Republicans are getting ready to start shooting and killing Democrats.
J6 2.0 is here.
And if you don't think the feds aren't planning another J6 or another Whitmer kidnapping type deal they got caught in, you aren't paying attention.
dan friesen
Before the conviction even happened, Chase was telling Alex about how his friends were talking like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't the people...
Like, scraping the internet to try and find random Trump supporters talking about violence?
That's what Alex is trying to present, because I think on some level he knows that the temperature is high.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
And that some of the people who are in his side of the fence might...
Be interested in doing some violence, like Chase's friends.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna go ahead and say that I think they're talking shit.
jordan holmes
I think they're talking a big game.
Because I think these are the people who are complaining about judges' instructions to a jury.
I don't think these people have it in them.
I don't think they have the guts.
dan friesen
I think, you know, we hope.
There's always a...
There's always a fear.
You know, there's always like a possibility and a potential because things do happen.
And, you know, there are people who do carry out violence.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That is awful.
And Alex is preparing for that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
To be able to deny it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's sending out the message that if people, you know, maybe...
Do do some stuff.
We're gonna pretend it's a false flag.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, but it's so weird for that to be squarely on Alex's side, you know?
Like, nobody's like, oh, the left is gearing up for what could happen if they, you know, like I said, if he gets six months probation, it's like, yeah, that should be...
People should, comparatively speaking, if we live there, people should be like, oh, the left is going to go crazy over this.
dan friesen
But Alex is saying that too.
jordan holmes
Your liberal moms are going to be like, ooh.
dan friesen
The summer of rage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
It should be that.
dan friesen
Alex is predicting it in every direction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
So Trump is going to win, despite cheating.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But there's bad news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
World War III is still probably happening.
jordan holmes
Well, then I don't need to worry about Trump so much.
dan friesen
Right.
And then you also got to worry about Soros.
alex jones
If everybody wants to get so excited and happy and, oh, it's backfiring and the numbers already show it and Trump is going to win in a landslide despite the fraud, you can override that with a massive landslide.
The numbers are clear.
But Tucker Carlson nailed it.
He said, anyone supporting this verdict and anyone not supporting President Trump is an enemy of America and your family.
And you're in danger of World War III.
And total enslavement in a dictatorship.
Now, that's what's going on.
We are already under a coup.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I was just on Eric Bowling's show talking about this with him this morning.
I think it airs tonight.
It's going down.
Soros is just the CIA front.
When you hear Soros, it's CIA.
Has gotten control of almost all the cities and populous counties and towns, over a thousand of them.
They've got 18. The state attorney general is totally on his payroll, trained by him in his special college he has.
They're fellows of the Soros group.
A couple others are semi, but 18 is the number.
They've got over 1,000 DAs and county attorneys.
They've got a lot of the police chiefs.
The ADL does the training with the Southern Property Law Center.
And they're not just defunding the police and releasing violent criminals to destabilize things.
That's a small part of the equation.
It's then the persecution of populists and conservatives and nationalists.
And just right down the line, if you're a victim and you're white, you don't get any support.
If you're a black criminal or a Hispanic criminal, they let you go.
dan friesen
Oh, so that's what you meant by populist, conservative, and nationalists.
Okay, I gotcha.
I thought that was what you were saying.
That's what you're saying.
jordan holmes
It is nice of him to remind us all that populist, conservative, and nationalists are white.
dan friesen
That's what he's coding in the way that he's speaking.
Also, fun fact, Eric Bolling...
Maybe got fired, maybe left Newsmax right after this.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
He had Alex on?
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think it was...
Today's Sunday.
It was yesterday.
I believe that he got the axe or left Newsmax.
I'm not sure exactly the circumstances of that.
Also, Eric Bolling is the guy who used to be one of the hosts of Fox's The Five who wanted to fight Alex on a random street corner in New York that we covered on one of our tour episodes.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
They patched that up.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why?
Why can't they just fight it out?
You know what?
That's it.
I will accept no conservative ideology until it is Thunderdome approved.
If you guys want to fight, fuck you.
dan friesen
Fight.
jordan holmes
Alright?
Thunderdome.
dan friesen
No, they want to make peace and then...
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Leave Newsmax.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
So there's going to be a lot of terror attacks.
There's going to be a lot of false flags.
jordan holmes
A lot?
It seems easier to find out that they're false flags if you have a lot of them.
dan friesen
There's going to be like a hundred of them.
jordan holmes
Okay, but usually you want to keep it like low.
So the fewer, again, the fewer number of people involved in any given thing.
dan friesen
This is going to be like...
The biggest group.
jordan holmes
So not one person is going to reveal that these are false flags from this massive hundreds of...
dan friesen
It's going to be the widest conspiracy you've ever seen in your life.
jordan holmes
So of 115 planned false flags, not one of those guys is going to get cold feet and be like, I don't think I want to be a suicide bomber today.
dan friesen
Nope.
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
We're in the third quarter, and we are seven points ahead.
And we have the ball at the 50-yard line, and it's first down.
But in the fourth quarter, that we're now entering, in the next 157 days, and then the craziness that comes after that, ahead of the inauguration, the 79 Days of Hell Part 2, I told you hell was coming, all 79 Days of Hell predicted all that.
In the lead up, and they could detonate a bomb tomorrow.
They could truck bomb next week.
They could shoot up a black college or attack a black grocery store or a black church or a string of synagogues.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
The globalists have got mentally ill people wound up ready that when they get the green light, they'll activate them to go carry out attacks.
But those are usually not very well coordinated and aren't big enough.
So I'm predicting that international crime syndicates working for the globalists are going to hit targets around the country.
And I'm predicting it's going to be bigger in the aggregate than 9-11.
I'm not saying the one of them will be bigger than 9-11.
I'm saying I'm predicting hundreds of terror attacks are going to be conducted inside the United States and attributed to Trump supporters.
dan friesen
All I hear there is just like, I'm really worried about what my friends are going to do.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is almost borderline like, hey.
My friends are saying we should do this.
But how about...
unidentified
What if we get international crime syndicates involved?
jordan holmes
Alright?
Fellas, I know you want to like, oh, sure, a black synagogue.
Whatever.
Blow one up.
That's not big enough.
We got to get the mafia in on this.
dan friesen
We got to look at this from a leaderless splinter resistance kind of model.
jordan holmes
But with a Don.
dan friesen
Right.
Well, we can pretend that there's an international crime syndicate behind it.
This is the way that we will evade having to take responsibility for the racist violence that we want to commit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all I hear, basically.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex doesn't predict false flags much.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
At least not big stuff.
And now we should smash cut to him saying, I don't predict this stuff very often.
jordan holmes
I mean, right?
dan friesen
Frequently in the past.
Yeah.
But Alex says that he doesn't predict these kinds of things much, and then that leads him into a weird story.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I've only done this a few other times.
Like, I said...
Back in 2001, I said, call the White House and tell them we know they're going to fly buildings in the World Trade Center and blame it on their CIS at Bin Laden.
I've seen the pre-programming, all the stuff that was going on.
It was obvious.
jordan holmes
What a thing to add to your lore.
alex jones
You think I want to just sit there and give out the White House switchboard on my syndicated radio show and on my local TV show, and they got reportedly thousands of calls.
You think I want to mess with the New World Order?
dan friesen
Yes.
alex jones
I'd already had them physically send people to attack me once before.
When the Clintons were in.
Good thing I was young and still tough as hell because I beat the living hell out of those guys.
They broke my nose and just hit me in the side of the kidneys and hit me in the head.
It really wasn't, you know, hit me pretty hard.
It just pissed me off.
Broke my nose.
They stood back with a blub of sprain.
I like it was going to do something.
I just was like, I'm going to hurt you bad.
Sorry, I'm going to have a little flashback of enjoyment there.
I remember getting my knee up.
Because they were trying to hold me, and I just slammed my knee right in that guy's ribs, and I heard him crack, and he started crying.
And I just punched him right in the nose and just smashed his nose almost completely off his face.
Anyway, sorry.
I'm sorry, folks.
I'm a little emotional right now.
I have some more memories.
Very good memory, though.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
So, I'm climbing in that minivan, bleeding.
I was running like a bunch of little cowards.
Oh, I had a gun in my pocket, too.
Kind of blasting them, but I didn't do that.
I just beat the living hell out of them.
Sorry.
unidentified
Excuse me.
alex jones
Sorry, some of those memories are just...
I'm not a sadistic person unless it's bullies attacking me, and I just started having some pleasure, some feelings of victory and overcoming and dominance, and I'm sorry.
I apologize.
I'm going to quit right there.
dan friesen
I forgive you, man.
Jesus.
What another amazing thing to add to your lore.
unidentified
What a fucking cartoon character.
jordan holmes
That is so over the top, like, Tex Avery wouldn't call it.
unidentified
The president sent henchmen to beat him up.
dan friesen
To beat him, to rough him up.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Before he was even, like...
Really relevant at all.
jordan holmes
Nah.
Well, I mean, Clinton, the Clintons, both, they're also a little psychic.
They're actually several thousand years old along with Alex.
dan friesen
No, because Hillary went to a witch church.
jordan holmes
That's right.
Yeah.
So they can see, they kind of knew that this battle was going to last a long time, so they were trying to kill him in his infancy.
dan friesen
Get a head start.
jordan holmes
Totally.
But didn't work.
dan friesen
But not kill him.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then...
Get your henchmen beaten up, and then they just never come back to finish the work.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess, yeah, they just don't, and they disappear.
dan friesen
I thought Larry Nichols was supposed to be, like, a murderer for the Clintons.
Nah, it doesn't.
I thought they killed people.
No, but they just punched Alex a couple times, and then got their ribs broken?
jordan holmes
They were gonna rough him up a little bit, teach him a lesson.
Please.
But then they were like, oh, you hit us!
dan friesen
Oh, no, you're too good at fighting.
jordan holmes
We never would have seen this part coming, seeing as how we're professional assassins for the political presidents.
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
Fucking so dumb.
All right, all right.
Alex is pretty convinced there's going to be a false flag at a black church.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that's because he recognizes that his audience...
jordan holmes
Is all a bunch of Dylan Roof's.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
alex jones
So I would guess they've got a German team, which is the same as the Ukrainians now, NATO teams, that again are going to have a mentally ill, drugged up, white MAGA person who's shot their mouth off.
That person will be kept in the van, drugged.
They'll make sure all the cameras are turned off.
They'll park somewhere like a church loading dock or something where they can make sure there's no cameras.
That's their concern with all the cameras today.
And then they're going to go in with masks on, and they're going to kill as many black people as they can.
When it's a professional team, they can kill a church of 300, 400 black folks.
They'll kill 100 of them.
Throw some hand grenades in to confuse the whole thing.
This is just one type scenario.
That's the one I think that's probably one of those.
They probably got the vans loaded, the troops ready.
I mean, if people control Biden, give the order, they'll roll out Sunday to your black church.
So they're coming.
Now, they're going to go in there and just spray women and children saying, Hail Trump!
And then they'll just go and take the guy that's kind of halfway waking up, and then they'll just throw him in there.
And then that's it.
And then you'll hear that Trump supporter went and killed 100 black people.
dan friesen
It's very detailed.
I don't want to call it necessarily a fantasy, but his imagination of...
I mean, there's almost instructions.
jordan holmes
Feels very...
dan friesen
You want to park at the loading dock because there's no cameras over there.
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not unlike we're in the SWAT van and we're doing a no-knock warrant is what he's describing, right?
Is that what's happening?
dan friesen
It's upsetting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very upsetting.
jordan holmes
I don't like it.
dan friesen
So, the people...
Not sure who exactly this is, but, you know, they, the globalists, the bankruptcy court, everybody's trying to take Alex off air.
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what this is all about.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Alex.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Right.
I gotta remember that.
dan friesen
They're trying to take him off air, and they're gonna do that by posting fake stories about him.
jordan holmes
That's...
alex jones
So, we're 157 days out from the election, and, uh...
They are moving as fast as they can to take us off the air.
While putting out fake headlines like this in the Associated Press that I'm going to show you, Sandy Hook families offer to settle Alex Jones' $1.5 billion legal debt for a minimum of $85 million.
Now, I've not made $50 million myself in 30 years on air.
Okay.
dan friesen
They weren't asking for $80 million in a lump sum, you dum-dum.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
Also, that AP headline that he's reading was published on November 27th, 2023.
It's over six months old, but Alex is trying to present it as something current because he needs to give this presentation that everyone's trying to take him off air.
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
It can't be a six-month-old headline, and now they've got plans for attacking it.
dan friesen
And things have evolved since this point in November.
That circumstance isn't accurate anymore, but Alex is presenting it as if the headline is current.
So, when I'm listening to this, it's like, okay, Trump was convicted.
Fuck, Alex is obsessed with false flags.
Oh, man.
At least, you know, I'll have a time to catch my breath on Saturday.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
At least, you know, I'll have a little bit of a buffer time.
jordan holmes
Just a quick show on Saturday.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It doesn't need to be a whole thing.
dan friesen
But then Alex says this.
alex jones
And I am coming in tomorrow at 10 a.m.
We go live with Bilderberg coverage.
We should probably get not just one of the top Bilderberg experts on.
Daniel Esselin, who is on with us, you should also get, Charlie Skelton's been wanting to come on, and I said, yeah, just come on once you're at the conference, get intel.
It's in Madrid, and so live, 10 a.m. tomorrow, and we'll probably go three hours.
I'll cover a bunch of news as well, but 10 a.m. Central Standard Time.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The Alex Jones Show tomorrow will be streamed at infowars.com forward slash show, band out video, and on X and any radio and TV stations.
That want to be able to pick that up.
jordan holmes
What TV station?
dan friesen
None.
I heard this and I was like, well, I guess I'm going to tune in.
See Alex go back to his roots and talk Bilderberg.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's going to be exciting.
jordan holmes
I think that's great.
I think it's a good time for it.
I think it's probably best for him.
You know, like if we think about it this way, right?
He keeps saying there's 157 days until the election and all that stuff.
unidentified
We can just cicada this.
jordan holmes
Nothing's really bad.
You know, let's just all take a long nap.
It's going to be a month before sentencing.
Let's just sleep it off!
dan friesen
And while we're in that little down period or whatever, do some of the classics.
I like the idea of, like, we're going to obsess about who drove into Bilderberg.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
This is the roots.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
dan friesen
This is where we came from.
And I was excited.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, we are going to talk quite a bit about Saturday.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're going to talk...
At all about this.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
So let's go back to the beginning of the show.
So his plan, start at 10 a.m., go for a few hours.
If I recall, you said he was on the air for most of the day.
dan friesen
I think he got off air a little bit after six.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Probably six plus hours.
jordan holmes
And you listened to all of it.
dan friesen
Well, here's the part I didn't listen to.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The Bilderberg part.
jordan holmes
It's too boring.
dan friesen
You did cover that, but I'm like, I can't.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
I'm only one human.
I don't have time.
Oh, boy.
I thought, like, okay, we got this Saturday stuff.
We can just cut bait on the 31st here.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But we can't.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Because shit goes crazy.
He has Mario Nathal and Nick Sartor on.
jordan holmes
I'd never heard of those two people before.
dan friesen
They're two guys who run a Twitter space that's fairly popular.
They were the ones who hosted the one that Alex talked to Elon Musk on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Not the fake Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so they're pretty popular in Twitter space.
And they're in town for a crypto conference.
Jesus Christ.
So they come on.
unidentified
I find them very uninteresting.
jordan holmes
Loserville.
dan friesen
So we're not going to talk much about...
Uh-huh.
But then there are some other guests.
Nick Fuentes comes on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And also, Alex discusses the chicken fried steak incident.
jordan holmes
Again?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Forever.
dan friesen
But there's more details added.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And one of these details really, I don't know if we knew this before, but I heard it as if it was totally new.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And it was God.
First, it was like a tap on the shoulder.
I'm sitting there eating chicken fried steak, drinking iced tea.
I'm saying, God, I want to fight evil.
I want to stand against evil.
I want to help people.
Just please help me be a good person and give me discernment.
I just love you.
I just want to be as effective as I can, and I just need your guidance.
And it was like, oh, you want to do that?
And it was like all this data at once of are you willing to go through the pain and the persecution and the system coming after you?
Yes.
Well, here's an idea of what it's going to be like.
And you just get all these thousands of possible futures and permutations and things, depending on actions people take.
And you understand these different scenarios.
And yes.
And it was like, all right, you're making that decision right now.
All right, well, say you're making it.
I'm making that decision.
And that was like an angel or something.
It was a presence, and the hair on the back of my neck was standing up, and all of a sudden it was like, and it was like, I was in another dimension.
It was like, oh, I wouldn't call it fear, but it's like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon, and wind's blowing at your back.
You're about to fall.
It's like, oh, wow.
And it was like, now, here is the download.
Boom!
Start crying.
Guys sitting there mopping, looking at me like, has this got me crazy?
And I'm just like, for like 30 minutes.
And then after that, I was another person, folks.
Wow.
dan friesen
So, for 30 minutes, you're in this person's restaurant going, why didn't they call the police or call an ambulance?
You seem like you're in distress, the way Alex is describing this.
That's poorly run business if they didn't worry about him being dead.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna enter this new version of the story into my actually Alex worships the devil thing.
Because what character famously...
Waits for people to suddenly say aloud what it is they deepest desire, right?
Then appears, then forces them to reiterate their agreement of the agreement we are currently making.
That immediately following that gives you a massive, didn't expect this to happen moment.
dan friesen
A little twist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
I don't know, there's one dude.
jordan holmes
Seriously, I think Alex has mistaken all of the Bible for just Faust.
dan friesen
I think it's possible we're talking food poisoning or something.
jordan holmes
That's possible too.
dan friesen
I'm trying to keep this in the terrestrial realm.
I'm trying to keep this in a territory that you can understand.
jordan holmes
You're trying to stay at the stake level.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And for me, I'm so worried about letting someone be in that state for half an hour.
That, to me, is such a weird part of the story.
jordan holmes
Why is, especially whenever he's talking to God in this story, why is God always so surprised?
That seems like the one thing he should be well aware of at all times.
Everything.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it kind of has to be, right?
That's the idea!
jordan holmes
As opposed to him being like, oh, so you want that stuff, huh?
How about that?
dan friesen
God must allow for free will.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's the one thing that God cannot know is what decision you'll make.
jordan holmes
Sure, but he doesn't have to be catty about it.
dan friesen
That's true.
There's one thing that God does know very well, though.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is what time it is.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
As we know, he tells Alex what time it is.
jordan holmes
You look up, it's 345.
Oh my God, it is.
dan friesen
Alex expounds on this a little bit more.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ!
alex jones
I don't know how I duplicate this or how I would, because it's only when God decides to do it.
But it used to happen a few times a year.
Now it happens like every week.
It happened like four times a month ago in one week where God says, get up.
And I get up.
And it didn't happen all the time.
I don't know what's going on.
Get up.
And I'm like, you want me to get up and go to my phone or go in the kitchen and look at the clock?
Yeah.
Go in the bathroom where the phone is.
I don't sleep by it.
I get up.
He goes, it's going to be 4 a.m.
Hurry up because it's going to flip over to 4 a.m. if you don't.
Okay.
And I'm like, I got pissed really bad, too.
I flip the phone number, 4 a.m., and the guy goes, now, you're thinking that's just a coincidence.
It's not.
It's not that you have some super time understanding.
Go ahead and take your piss.
Now, count down.
It's at 15 seconds now.
It's going to flip to 401 in 50 seconds.
Okay, 13, 12, get it right.
What are we doing?
8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 401.
It's like, now, I know you know I'm real, and I've already done all this, but now you...
I'm telling you this because big stuff's coming, and you don't always follow what I tell you to do.
I need you to do what I tell you immediately when I tell you.
Do you understand?
I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I literally just go back in the bedroom and just get down on my knees for an hour.
Yes, I got it.
I'm trying here.
And God's like, and you've done better not drinking, but you still drink some.
I cannot get a full transmission in to you when you're drinking.
It's lowering your energy residence, which it literally does, so you've got to stop it.
Because I'm going to get a clear signal in there.
I mean, this is awesome, people!
unidentified
I've literally got God telling me what time it is!
dan friesen
I just don't even know what to say anymore.
jordan holmes
I don't even know what to say to that.
The man's got God telling him what time it is!
dan friesen
God seems to be doing a little bit of a ta-da kind of thing.
jordan holmes
It does feel like eh.
Eh?
unidentified
Eh?
jordan holmes
You get it?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I can tell you what time it is.
dan friesen
That's what time it is.
jordan holmes
Is that what we're doing here?
dan friesen
Now stop drinking.
Because I can't tell you what time it is when you're drunk.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying.
I really like...
I will...
I'll share this with you.
I'm really into close-up magic.
It's really cool.
dan friesen
No, me too.
jordan holmes
It's really cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
There's that magic theater.
Here in Chicago.
I've been there a couple times.
Yeah, it's really fun.
The lobby, at the bar, the bartender does magic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, everybody's got their own little tricks that they throw out at you.
It's great.
dan friesen
The show itself, too expensive.
I haven't gone.
If you're at the bar, the guy will do the magic.
jordan holmes
My wife and I, we went to see the show.
It was pretty good.
They even had a local middler, somebody who was busking art, straight up arting out on the street, coming in doing a guest spot.
It was great.
It was fantastic.
All of which...
Is to say that there's like forces, you know, like the magicians can kind of like psychologically impress upon you the idea of you being like, oh, it is, my card is the Queen of Spades, you know, because they only showed you one card.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
That kind of thing.
All of which is far more impressive than looking at my phone to see what time it is.
dan friesen
It is, and honestly, like...
There's a lot more dialogue going on here than I usually imagine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of talk about how I gotta take a piss.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Count me down.
jordan holmes
Go ahead and take your piss.
I do appreciate a God that's like, hey, go on, finish your business.
dan friesen
I'll tell you the time after you pee.
jordan holmes
I could have.
I could have woken you up or just sent you there.
Any number of things.
dan friesen
Now you think this is a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
Also, it implies that Alex has to have perfect timing.
With his countdown, so that is another power that he must have.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
He can correctly suss out the exact length of a second.
dan friesen
And I will say, with his delivery of, this is awesome, God tells me what time it is, that is good timing.
jordan holmes
It is good timing.
No, it was great delivery.
I mean, as far as the thing that a crazy person would say, nailed it.
dan friesen
So anyway, if you're like a low-level Christian...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You don't experience stuff like this.
jordan holmes
Jesus was super huge on making sure everybody knew there was a hierarchy of people who believed.
That was his biggest thing.
dan friesen
At the bottom?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You just kind of feel love?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When he said the meek will inherit the earth, he was more like, you guys stay down below in the mud.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You dum-dums.
jordan holmes
You're not going to be up there.
No.
dan friesen
I want people to eventually go on missions for me.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
alex jones
I'm like a cruise missile that's got God's GPS, and God's telling me, hey, I need you to get your act completely square, because I got orders for you, buddy.
You signed up for this.
This is dangerous.
You better get your ass in gear.
It's not like for a baby Christian, the Holy Spirit, where you cry and it feels so good.
That's the beginning of it.
Once you get into missions with God, it is loving, it is direct, and you really want them to get your family?
You really want them to kill billions of people?
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
I know you don't want this to happen.
Well, then you need to get your ass in gear.
And that's why I'm telling you the stories, because this is all true.
On my soul.
dan friesen
Okay.
Alex is in New Game Plus of life.
jordan holmes
I mean...
unidentified
This is what it sounds like.
jordan holmes
Oh, baby Christians with your...
Oh, life is good.
unidentified
Shut up.
jordan holmes
Oh, your religion's bullshit.
Not whenever you go into omissions.
dan friesen
Right, when God tells you what time it is.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I don't know, but I have been thinking about, like...
I do think that Alex might be heretical.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, no, absolutely.
dan friesen
Honestly, I've been thinking about it.
I'm not particularly religious myself.
Obviously, we've talked about this.
I'm more accepting of it and enjoying of it than you, for sure.
But I wouldn't brand myself as a religious person.
I try to imagine if I was, what would I think about that?
I think that would be blasphemous.
I think that what he's doing is actually like...
Really bad on a religious level.
jordan holmes
I would say very seriously, deadly seriously, that it has only been within the past 75 years that you would be allowed to say things like this in public without being killed.
dan friesen
Right, and I think even shorter period of time you'd be able to say things like this in public without someone, like, being very concerned and maybe putting you in a hospital.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine in the 50s somebody saying, like, because for all the, like, The evangelical kind of lunacy going on.
At no point in time were they like, alright, let's straight up get into the Charlie's Angels version of the Bible here.
dan friesen
It's troubling.
It's a little upsetting.
Also upsetting is Nick Fuentes being on.
They kind of just have a fine conversation and it's a little bit boring.
Just about like...
There's a lot of shit going on in the world.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
A lot of stuff.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
We just covered Nick being on, so I'm not going to dwell on this too much, but there's one clip that I wanted to play, and I think it's fascinating.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because Alex corrects himself about something, and I'm not saying he corrects himself to the right version of something, but he changes a version of one of his narratives because he knows that Nick likes Nazis.
This is amazing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
They're a bunch of lawyers, not even military leaders now.
They're all sitting in rooms acting tough.
Well, let's just bomb the Russians.
Yeah, that'll show them.
Oh, yeah, that'll really show the Russians, folks.
90% of the Brits were anti-war until Churchill bombed German cities to manipulate Hitler to bomb British cities, and they went 99% pro-war.
I mean, so I'm asking the question.
You're right.
It's arrogance.
It's insanity.
unidentified
It is.
nick fuentes
It's that classic hubris.
dan friesen
I've heard Alex say this a hundred times, and it's always the British people were opposed to the war until Germany bombed them.
And that made them be more for the war.
I've heard it a bunch of times.
Not that...
Churchill bombed Germany to trick Germany into bombing England.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's nonsense.
He said that because Nick likes Hitler.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's cutting him off at the pass so Nick wouldn't be like, actually, the reason that Hitler did that, he was like, let's just skip past this part.
dan friesen
He's giving Nazi concessions, basically.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
Things are headed in a good direction.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I think everybody agrees that Neville Chamberlain was right.
I think going back in time, appeasement is the way to go.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wait for Saturday.
jordan holmes
I think it's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't care too much about Nick Fuentes.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Nick Sartor and Mario Nafal, I don't really care too much.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But then Alex has another guest.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is a guest who, when you hear his name, your ears perk up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's not Sylvester Stallone.
jordan holmes
Ron Paul.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Rand Paul.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Paul Ayn Rand.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm trying to think of a way to clue you in on this.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
It's Eddie Bravo.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
So Eddie Bravo is on.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Noted Flat Earther.
Yes.
Alex has him on and immediately is just disrespectful as shit about Flat Earth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's very refreshing.
In a strange way.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah, baby.
I can't believe you think that's real.
alex jones
Oh, God.
I can't believe you.
Listen, I love you when you come to town.
I love you to death.
And I love challenging the system.
But, Eddie, Trump has been convicted of this fraud.
They're trying to have World War III.
They're announcing they're going to start bombing Russia with U.S. weapons.
And all I said this morning is, I said, you're coming in.
Can you at least talk a little bit about Trump, the politics, the world?
And then we can talk about, you know, the Easter Bunny stuff.
Okay.
I'm being mean.
No, no.
And he wants to tell you the big secret of the world's flat.
And he's got...
david weiss
Flat Earth Dave.
alex jones
He's got Flat Earth Dave, folks.
One of the biggest flat earthers here with us.
Dave Weiss.
FlatEarthDave.com.
So, fine.
Just tell us.
Tell the big secret.
It's all flat.
It's going to really beat them.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, first of all, Alex started this.
jordan holmes
You didn't have to invite him on your show.
dan friesen
Especially not with Flat Earth Dave.
jordan holmes
Didn't have to.
dan friesen
Second, you don't have to say, oh, look at that great, beautiful globe coming in from break and then be like, do we have to talk about Flat Earth?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're being an asshole.
jordan holmes
You're doing it.
dan friesen
But, you know, I guess it's kind of like...
In what appears to be their friendship.
So it's not the most disrespectful thing.
It would be if he wasn't friends with Eddie.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
He's right.
dan friesen
He is being mean.
jordan holmes
I am going to be very honest with you.
Right now, my view of the dynamics of this scenario is very much Jabba the Hutt's palace.
Where the rancor is directly beneath Eddie Bravo's feet.
And Alex is both himself and...
And Salacious Crumb just like laughing at his own jokes.
Who's flattered Dave?
Flattered Dave is the rancor.
He's going to eat us all.
That's what's going to happen here.
dan friesen
So there is an interesting dynamic that runs throughout this.
And that is that Alex pretty much rebuts every point that Eddie brings up.
But also they rebut his rebuttals in a way that gets us nowhere.
So it's a tragic waste of time.
jordan holmes
Alright, so somebody who is knowledgeable enough about this world to know that the globe is the default.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
But not knowledgeable enough to defend the globe.
dan friesen
No, I think he does.
It's just that, like...
When you're dealing with people like Flat Earth Dave and Eddie Bravo, they're going to have rebuttals to your reality.
jordan holmes
Well, they've heard about the globe before, obviously.
dan friesen
They've done these argument paths.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now, there's one point where I think Alex was a little bit weak.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is this next clip.
unidentified
All right.
david weiss
No, I don't know what the moon is.
I know that it's not what they tell us.
alex jones
All right, well, I mean, okay, we'll get to that.
Can you give me your take on Trump and nuclear war?
Hold on, hold on.
Nuclear weapons don't exist.
Did we land on the moon?
unidentified
Yes or no?
dan friesen
That's a no.
alex jones
I mean, I think we're showing some fake stuff.
Come on, man.
unidentified
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
You think we landed on the moon?
alex jones
For real?
Be honest.
unidentified
You think we land on a motherfucker?
alex jones
So you think Starlink's fake?
david weiss
What's that?
I can prove it's fake.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
I can prove it's fake.
Wait, wait, wait.
Starlink or the moon?
dan friesen
The Starlink is what he thinks he can prove is fake.
And I think that Alex is really weak in that moment when he won't just emphatically say we did land on the moon.
I think we saw some fake stuff.
Come on, man.
unidentified
Dude.
dan friesen
That is all the confidence he needs to take this entire interview off the rails.
jordan holmes
What's crazy about this now is I feel like we should just all not give a shit about whether we did or did not land on the moon because where we are now is so...
We got space telescopes.
We got shit just floating out there that looks into the past, but like way far.
dan friesen
But it's all fake because NASA's lying to you.
jordan holmes
We can see like three million years after the Big Bang.
Like right there.
We can use a telescope to see because light takes a long time.
Who cares if we landed on the moon?
That's a billion, billion, billion years ago.
dan friesen
Sure.
So we're on a frozen lake of some sort.
jordan holmes
All right, I'm listening.
Now I'm listening.
dan friesen
The Earth is flat.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then past the boundaries of, like, the South Pole.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There are more worlds that are also flat.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And that's the big secret that's being kept.
jordan holmes
So we can kind of, like, daisy chain our way around the universe.
dan friesen
I mean, we could if they'd let us.
But they won't.
jordan holmes
Now that's the delivery and timing of a man for whom God tells him the time.
dan friesen
So there's one thing that I think, I mean, Alex and I every now and again agree on something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that...
Happens in this episode.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is that Flat Earth Dave sucks.
jordan holmes
That is fair.
dan friesen
Alex really does not like Flat Earth Dave.
jordan holmes
Not hard.
Not hard.
dan friesen
So they get into a conversation about nukes not being real.
Because that's another thing that Eddie believes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you can't have nukes if you don't have a globe.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's just fact.
dan friesen
Yes.
And so that is a tenet of their belief system.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I know.
I mean, I'm just totally focused on Trump being convicted and World War III.
But let me guess, there's no nuclear weapons, right, Eddie?
david weiss
Absolutely not.
100%.
alex jones
No, I've heard this before.
Okay, so there's no nuclear weapons.
david weiss
It's meant for fear.
It's meant for control.
This is all about control.
alex jones
What real technology is there?
david weiss
Oh, there's big bombs.
They stack TNT at ground zero.
In Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there's video of troops stacking TNT at ground zero.
alex jones
Wow, the U.S. had invaded Japan and did that.
david weiss
Wow.
jordan holmes
It's pretty exciting.
david weiss
War is a theater.
That's why they call it the theater of war.
They're all working together.
There may be some rogue states and some stuff going on, but all of this is combined.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I'm yet challenging and questioning everything.
david weiss
Sure.
alex jones
But, I mean, so the trumpet dive is back, too?
david weiss
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think they're really going after him.
I think if Trump gets in office, that their plans might be fine.
alex jones
But everything else is fake.
Everything's a theater.
How can it be?
My answer was, I don't know.
It's not all or nothing, Alex.
unidentified
Come on.
david weiss
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I love how you're playing devil's advocate to make sure that you're not labeled as a flat earther.
alex jones
No, I don't.
I don't give a shit how I'm labeled.
jordan holmes
I like that there is something that can turn Alex into me going, oh my god.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Oh my god.
unidentified
And kind of mad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit how I'm doing.
jordan holmes
I don't care even if the earth is flat.
dan friesen
I'm not playing devil's advocate with you.
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
That is great.
You could just not have him on.
dan friesen
I think the reason, though, is that Eddie Bravo's a celebrity and he's close to Rogan and Alex doesn't want to alienate somebody who's close to Rogan and so he humors Eddie about the Flat Earth stuff pretty regularly.
And so when Eddie comes on and Alex is doing this, he probably thinks...
That it's playing devil's advocate, which is what a lot of bigots can do if Alex ever pushes back on their stuff.
It's like when he gets calls that are people like, we get the globalists or the Jews, and you just can't say it because you want to keep up appearances and stuff.
That's what Eddie thinks, but with Flat Earth.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's why Alex can get away with apologizing to Hamdi Ulaqai, you know, like, oh, I'm so sorry about that.
He's not sorry.
He's not going to change anything.
He doesn't care.
And everybody who sees it is going to be like, well, yeah, he has to do that to avoid losing 1.5.
Five billion dollars.
dan friesen
It's the excuse that they all make to maintain their own image of who he is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's pretty cool.
jordan holmes
It's great to lie.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Eddie believes that Trump is also a secret flat earther.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
Okay.
alex jones
Eddie, give us your flat earther hypothesis.
eddie bravo
I think Trump is a flat earther secretly.
alex jones
How about that?
jordan holmes
And so is Donald Trump Jr.
alex jones
I think the Earth is actually Donald Trump's butt.
david weiss
Obama knows.
Obama talked about Flat Earth eight times during his presidential speeches.
In his speeches, he says, we don't have time for a meeting of the Flat Earth Society because that's where they want you to go.
That's where they strawman us.
The Flat Earth Society is fake.
Yeah, they want you to go there because you go there, you spend five minutes there, you'll never look at Flat Earth again.
Exactly.
No Flat Earther believes any of that.
No Flat Earther believes that.
jordan holmes
No Flat Earther believes that.
david weiss
That is two fake models.
That's a heliocentric fake model.
alex jones
What do they believe?
david weiss
We believe that we are the foundation of the universe.
That's the best way we have it.
Here, Alex, Alex, check this out.
alex jones
Check this out.
I've got to go to break.
I get it.
All that matters is the flat earth.
I understand.
jordan holmes
It does.
unidentified
That's the biggest fire of all.
david weiss
That's the biggest fire of all.
alex jones
It's like juju, juju, juju, juju.
It's another one of the things.
david weiss
Watch those videos and make up your own mind.
Don't believe anything like that.
alex jones
We've got to go to break.
dan friesen
I do like that Flat Earth Dave is doing what Alex does to other people.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Yelling out his website.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Stuff.
That is a little bit fun.
jordan holmes
It is nice.
dan friesen
But just to give some clarity, when Alex said Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, he was saying that in reference to something he had said earlier, which is that there's a lot of people, like anti-Semites, who are obsessed and every issue comes back to Jewish people.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And that's what he's accusing them of being like with Flat Earth.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I just wanted to make that clear in case...
jordan holmes
I mean, I will say this, all right?
They are right.
There can't be nuclear weapons if there's a flat Earth, because it would require E equals MC squared to be correct, which would require an entire universe, which would require globes.
It all requires globes.
So if that is the case, then yes, it is the only thing that is really important right now, because they're lying to us about everything.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But our phones shouldn't work.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
That's a big problem.
dan friesen
They deal with that.
jordan holmes
I'm sure they do.
I'm sure they do deal with that.
I have no doubt they deal with that.
dan friesen
And we would deal with it too.
jordan holmes
I'm sure we would.
dan friesen
But I have a clip.
It's three minutes long.
And I need to play it because I laughed out loud when I heard this.
Eddie and Flat Earth Dave keep insisting that Alex watch a trailer to a new documentary.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I tried to find this documentary.
I don't think it's out yet.
It is a documentary about how all of our buildings are secretly older than they really are, and there was an old civilization that this has been built on top of.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now, Alex loses his, like, he's just done.
He's just done with this shit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But he does play the trailer.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then mutters over it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So there's a new documentary out, you're telling me about it.
jordan holmes
Can I see the trailer?
alex jones
Yeah, we'll play the trailer.
And then meanwhile, I've got, like, family diaries from 200 years ago.
With, you know, describing fighting the Indians and all this stuff.
But you guys understand, it was like metropolis is right where we're at.
david weiss
And we repopulated the earth.
All of these cities were here.
It's like Westworld, Alex.
We had horses and buggies next to these giant buildings.
Horse and buggy technology.
You can find it at flatheartdave.com.
There's a big banner.
Just click it.
It will change your life.
alex jones
Okay, great.
And it's just boom.
It's just boom.
The United States was one giant city.
None of the family diaries are right.
None of the people passing information on.
There was nothing here except pure cities.
david weiss
There's lots of truth there.
alex jones
No, no, no.
None of these buildings were built.
They were built thousands of years ago.
Okay, so let's play the trailer.
Here it is.
dan friesen
Here we go.
alex jones
This is Total.
unidentified
There's a lot of architecture in the world today on every continent of buildings that are much, much larger than you would think people of our height would build.
Cities in America that look as though they were constructed in medieval Europe.
dan friesen
The outside's incredible.
But the inside is built like a palace.
unidentified
I'm not sure if there were any schools of architecture back then.
We're at the pinnacle of our civilization now.
This is the best it gets.
The best we've ever done.
Look at the quality of these walls.
Now you'll go through a neighborhood and every home looks the same.
david weiss
How do we know we're going backwards?
unidentified
Everyone would be pissed.
As an architect of 20 years, I like to look at a building as telling its own story.
I like to say that stones don't lie.
The history that we've been told is a lot.
alex jones
I'm glad you rejected the system.
unidentified
Make something so massive.
david weiss
How did they build that beautiful, beautiful building?
unidentified
Was that building here longer?
I feel like the building was out, right?
What was actually in the towers?
What kind of technology was up there?
These buildings were built by the prior civilization.
A beautiful, easy, graceful method of travel flushed down the drains.
dan friesen
Nope, no more airships.
owen shroyer
And they have to lie to us about it.
alex jones
They had to write the storybooks.
owen shroyer
We learned about one fire.
unidentified
The Chicago Great Fire.
There were fires in every major city burned to the ground.
It's impossible for any stone building to be burning down.
alex jones
Oh, yeah, stone buildings ever burn.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Oh my God.
unidentified
This literally being a cover up of the peaceful war for one another.
All for humanity.
alex jones
So the paradox is the system's lying, so now we believe nothing.
unidentified
No, no, the system is not lying.
owen shroyer
They're telling the truth.
alex jones
Stone buildings never burn.
Stone buildings are full of tapestries, full of wood girders.
They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie.
unidentified
What temperature does stone melt?
alex jones
When the girders collapse, it falls apart.
david weiss
The stone girders?
unidentified
So stone melts with the fire?
dan friesen
That's so dumb.
jordan holmes
They burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
dan friesen
Come on, Eddie.
unidentified
I want that.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
That's great.
dan friesen
That is a man who has been pushed.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what I like.
Here's what's great about it.
It is like, it's why...
I get mad whenever religious people look at another religion and they're like, oh, that's fucking stupid.
It's like, listen, buddy, it's all built on the same shit, right?
Like, to get Alex so angry at him watching Endgame.
Like, it is him listening to Endgame about something else.
It's just a Mad Libs version of Endgame and him being like...
This is so stupid!
It's like, what are you doing, man?
dan friesen
This shit is incompatible with the stuff that I use to stoke fear and create narratives, and so I can't really go along with it, and I can hear something really fucking stupid, and I can be like, that's really stupid.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And he could do that with his own stuff if he wanted to.
jordan holmes
He could.
That's the problem.
dan friesen
You know, you don't want to pierce the...
jordan holmes
You can't look at something exactly like what you're doing and call it stupid, otherwise you're going to find yourself in trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think I might have gone to the wrong website.
I think I went to flatearthdave.tv instead of flatearthdave.com.
Maybe that documentary is on there, but I really wanted to watch it.
jordan holmes
I mean, amazing.
dan friesen
I had so much of Alex's content to take care of, and I still would have tried to fit that in.
Because that documentary looks amazing.
Stone buildings have never burned down.
jordan holmes
As an architect of 20 years, you should not be in this documentary.
As an architect of 20 years, I no longer trust your architecture.
dan friesen
I think that was Art Vandelay.
Maybe.
Wasn't that George Costanza's alias?
jordan holmes
No, I don't remember.
I was never a Seinfeld guy.
dan friesen
So we reached an emotional high.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
On Friday.
jordan holmes
I can't believe we have not made it to Saturday.
dan friesen
We have not.
Oh, my God.
And there's a lot.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So, you know, Trump got convicted.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We got worried about false flags.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We dwelled in this space for a while.
We talked to Nick Fuentes, got a little bit racist-y.
And then Eddie Bravo came in, and we had one of the great interviews, I think, on this show's history.
Just...
Stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
jordan holmes
Stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
dan friesen
It's so good.
jordan holmes
You can sum up...
I mean, I feel like that sums up so much of life, really, as just a metaphor to use on all...
Hey, stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie!
We should be saying that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so, I was like...
I'm kind of in for Bilderberg coverage.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm kind of in for this.
unidentified
I'm kind of excited.
dan friesen
You got me with the Eddie Bravo interview.
jordan holmes
You did.
dan friesen
So then we turn up on Saturday.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
unidentified
And, uh, nope.
jordan holmes
No?
dan friesen
Well, it's not Bilderberg coverage immediately.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because something has happened.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Since Alex was on air with Eddie Bravo.
jordan holmes
We got bad news.
dan friesen
Things were real good.
jordan holmes
Things were good?
dan friesen
Things went real bad.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
It is Saturday, June 1st, 2024.
When I tell you that this could be one of our last broadcasts, I want you to listen to me very carefully.
I have worked with the system.
I have been totally professional.
I have been completely truthful.
And by the grace of God and the fact that I am a Boy Scout, when it comes to my life and finances and things, very straightforward person.
Like my family.
They had Justice Department investigations, criminal investigations, grand juries.
The Washington Post admitted what I had already been told.
Six different criminal investigations in the last five years.
And no grand jury indicted me for all the stuff they tried to cook up.
And I never made a big deal about it.
And I didn't tell you when the FBI and the Justice Department was subpoenaing me and putting me through all of these grand juries.
I just didn't talk about it on air, okay?
But what you've seen with Trump and them cooking stuff up on him, they've tried that with me, and D.C. decided, and this came out in the Washington Post a year and a half ago, Special District to indict me.
And Merrick Garland said, no, this is too political.
This won't work.
So I was told that by the FBI.
And then it was in the news.
So that went on.
dan friesen
So that went on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Merrick Garland said, no, this shit's too hot.
We can't go anywhere near this.
jordan holmes
We can't.
We're not.
Listen, we're the FBI.
We don't cross boundaries.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right.
Trump is going to be prosecuted and all this, but not Alex.
That's too political.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I don't know.
I mean, I don't believe any of this, really, because he said all of these things in the past.
He has made a big deal out of these things, and they weren't true then, or at least there's no evidence of this then.
jordan holmes
I mean, I know.
I don't know.
I think.
Didn't we have a situation where at one point it was like, maybe there's an actual criminal investigation?
dan friesen
There might have been, but there was one thing that went nowhere that Alex had talked about, and then there was the subpoena over January 6th.
Those were the two things that we talked about when these narratives were taking shape.
And then, I don't know, if there's some evidence, then I'm...
You know, I'll change my position, but I haven't seen any evidence.
jordan holmes
I'm sure that somebody has sent something somewhere and somebody opened up a thing and maybe made some calls and then they're not doing anything.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody gave Alex a call like, hey.
You want to talk about that crime maybe you committed?
And Alex was like, no.
And they were like, yeah, me neither.
And that was it.
dan friesen
That very well may be true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's not a grand jury.
jordan holmes
That's not a grand jury.
dan friesen
Right.
That's the level that Alex is saying this got to, where a grand jury indicted him and Merrick Garland said no way.
jordan holmes
I do not believe that is how it works.
dan friesen
Seems...
Yeah.
I don't know.
So anyway.
jordan holmes
Like, wouldn't Merrick Garland know before the grand jury?
Like, he wouldn't be blindsided by the, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's somebody grand juried Alex?
dan friesen
You'd think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
So Alex, thankfully, doesn't do any crimes.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so everything is totally fine.
jordan holmes
Never does any crimes.
dan friesen
Right.
But this still could be one of his last broadcasts ever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And things are very severe.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I was never scared about this because I, other than speeding, which I don't even do anymore, because I love to drive fast when nobody's out on the road.
I haven't had my car up to 100 miles an hour in three years.
I drive the speed limit now, like an old lady in the middle lane.
Because I'm just going to do things absolutely 100% by the book.
If I have two drinks, I have somebody drive me.
I went out to dinner with Mariana Fall last night.
Just to give you an idea of my mindset.
Went out to Eddie V's with him and his crew.
Rob D went with me.
I ordered iced tea.
They ordered drinks.
And I said, okay, I'll take a double vodka.
And I had a double vodka.
That was the first time I've been drinking in a while.
And I drove home.
I mean, I had Rob drive me home and actually slept here at the office.
I said, Rob, take me.
Rob didn't drink.
And I said, I'm going to go sleep on the couch.
And I'm going to explain why in a moment.
So I slept here last night and then went home this morning to see my two daughters still live with me.
I'm just trying to give you a feel of this.
dan friesen
So Bilderberg can wait.
Alex slept on the couch and did fours last night.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay, so Alex went out for dinner.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fully intending not to drink.
dan friesen
Having an iced tea.
jordan holmes
And like all great alcoholics, immediately went to a double hard liquor.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And, you know, I don't know.
Maybe he had one.
Maybe he had two.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
But he didn't maybe drink that much.
Maybe.
But he did wind up sleeping at his office.
Right.
dan friesen
And we're going to find out why.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because there is a reason why.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this story is insane.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I truly don't believe it's real.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he was at the office.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And we saw the security guard.
And he was being a little bit weird.
jordan holmes
I already don't believe any of this.
Right.
dan friesen
Get ready to not believe even more.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
It would take two hours to explain just what happened in the last 24 hours, so I'm just going to give you a quick basic summation, and I'm going to explain why I'm doing this, okay?
But the best way to start is to explain that we have a private security firm that's a local security firm, and we've had them for six years, seven years, and we've got, you know, during the day when people are here, you know, armed guards and at night some armed guards as well.
They're great people, and they do a good job, and they're professional.
But I don't go around here all paranoid.
I'm confident, but I pick up on things, and I've learned to follow the Holy Spirit instincts.
So I noticed that a guard I've known for about a year, a nice guy, was acting kind of weird and running around the office and looking at me kind of weird.
And I called my lawyer, and I said, Is something going on?
And they said, yeah, we didn't want to upset you.
They're going to close InfoWars tonight at 9 p.m.
And they're going to change the locks.
And we learned about this yesterday, but we were trying to fix it.
And we just didn't want to give you a heart attack.
dan friesen
All right, man.
If my lawyer said that, the first thing I would say back is, you are fired.
unidentified
You are so fired.
dan friesen
So I'm supposed to believe this story, right?
And the security guard is told about this in advance, but the lawyer didn't want to upset Alex, so he withheld the information from the only person who can make any decisions in the entire company.
This makes sense.
This definitely is real.
jordan holmes
Now, I'm going to throw this out there.
All right.
Maybe I've heard somebody start a story with, I wasn't going to drink, and then immediately get into a long and very interesting story.
That could be explained away in a very short Occam's Razor way of, actually, I got drunk.
dan friesen
I would not be surprised if he got drunk.
But I don't think necessarily, with the information that I have at my disposal, I don't think that he's coming up with an elaborate story to cover up for being drunk.
I think it might be incidental.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But I do have some theories about what's going on.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
For sure.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So here's the basic situation.
If I want to give you a broad sketch of what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The chief restructuring officer in the bankruptcy is a guy named Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex is saying that he's trying to do a hostile takeover of the business.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's using the security guards as, like, his personal...
jordan holmes
Right.
He just watched Better Call Saul.
Gotcha.
Done.
dan friesen
So they had a CRO, a chief restructuring officer, who did a bad job, kind of fucked up.
They got rid of him.
And then they got a new person in, which is this Patrick McGill.
And Alex has some pretty severe accusations about him.
alex jones
We get this new guy that says, well, if I get appointed by the court, I'll do it.
And he'd done some small cases.
And I had some people in Houston that knew him.
And they said, well, he's never done big cases, but he's known as OK.
I'm like, okay.
So they bring this guy in, and immediately he gets rid of all the sponsors we had, which is $12 million a year.
So he just gets rid of $12 million of advertising.
And I'm like, why are you doing this?
Well, these advertising groups and these ad agencies, well, they're not going to get 10%.
I go, hell, a lot of ad agencies get 30%.
I said, they're the ones that do it.
They get the sale.
They bring us the people.
They manage it.
That's normal.
No, we're not going to have outside groups doing that.
And I said, well, that's funny.
John Harmon, he's our affiliate relations director.
He's with all our great radio stations.
He's been here 21 years.
Now it's 22. This is a year ago.
And I said, he's actually managed some of the in-house advertising.
And I said, he gets 5% for that on top of the salary.
He does a great job.
I said, let's bring him in as the ad manager.
I've got all these advertisers.
Let's not get rid of this $12 million that we made the year before to bring that in and fund the operation.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll do that.
We'll do that.
I'm like, well, you understand.
You just killed all this other advertising.
We've got one sponsor that he handles.
That's the Satellite Phone Company.
And there's currently, you know, in the bank account, a couple hundred thousand dollars from that group.
I want to bring that into free speech.
That's something that was happening previously that was an ad that John and I had.
It was something that I was paying myself that he was being paid from.
Most of it went into free speech systems.
But I would pay it into it.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
So what sponsors is he talking about?
I mean, he says the satellite phone.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And that's all good and well, but like $12 million?
His only sponsors really are his own products, and the supplements that his dad sells, which they pay advertising, it feels a little cyclical.
jordan holmes
What's going on here is, if I understand correctly, you're paying other businesses when you should be paying the bankruptcy.
dan friesen
Well, here's what I think is going on here.
So, in October 5th, 2022, that's when Patrick McGill took over as the CRO for Free Speech Systems.
Alex is referring to Mountain Way, which was a marketing company that was founded in August 2022, just after Free Speech Systems filed for bankruptcy.
John Harmon was the person who ran Mountain Way.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
They were taking in money for ads, and they had paid Alex $157,000 for these ads, personally.
And so there was this sort of...
The appearance wasn't good in terms of the arrangement that seemed to be set up to get money to Alex outside of bankruptcy.
jordan holmes
The order, generally speaking, for honest people is, these people are screwing me, I swear to God!
And then afterwards, you explain how you have done things the correct way, by the book.
The order for liars generally goes with, I swear I did everything by the book.
I swear I was a good guy.
I swear, I don't think I've ever done anything wrong in my life.
I don't even speed anymore, and I definitely don't drink, except for that double vodka, and then I'm not going to explain things.
Anyways, these people are screwing me!
dan friesen
Because I have that double vodka, God can't get a clear line in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you warning me in advance that you do not deserve this consequence kind of makes me feel like you'd have this consequence coming.
dan friesen
Right, and this arrangement is shady.
This Mountain Way arrangement is shady and it raises a lot of questions.
For sure.
And that's the reason that it was brought up in filing in March 2023.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the judge is like, you gotta give that money back.
jordan holmes
No, no.
I've never done anything wrong.
dan friesen
Alex's lawyer said, oh, I could have sworn we brought that up before.
jordan holmes
I barely even speed!
I don't even speed anymore!
I thought we brought it up.
I'm sure we did.
dan friesen
Alex has taken this, and now this is the way he's presenting it, as the CRO got rid of all of their advertisers.
jordan holmes
Totally.
What a dick.
He's just making bad money decisions, really.
That's why we're going out of business, is because this man refuses to give money to my dad.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's a cretin.
Alex is very mad at Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes
Did he use the word cretin?
dan friesen
He does.
jordan holmes
That's great.
alex jones
His name's Pat McGill.
He's the CRO guy.
And he goes...
To the court, which has got in the news, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, you name it, and says, oh, I found this money just now that they were secretly holding over here, but don't worry, I fixed it, and they've agreed to give me the money.
I caught them.
So I go in there with my lawyers when they were here, and we said, hey, man, they wrote notes in those meetings four or five months ago, and we filed two months ago.
You need to go public.
And retract that.
That's a terrible thing.
You have Alzheimer's?
I mean, I asked him, I said, are you having memory lapses here?
He said, I'm protecting you.
It's fine.
It's good.
Don't worry.
And I said, so you're not going to go retract that to the court?
It's wrong.
You know, I'd already filed with the court.
You want me to go make a stink in front of the court?
Because you just, in the news, said I was stealing money from my own company.
And this guy is, like, literally could be, like, play.
You know, the bad guys in Oliver Twist or something.
I mean, this guy is like literally a street cretin, you know, slimy, I mean, just absolutely the most light-of-your-face person you've ever met.
I mean, it is just unbelievable.
So, I'm dealing with that.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And then, three months ago, I'm out there doing Tucker Carlson's show in Florida, and I get in my email a secret filing he filed with the court.
He didn't even know.
That the judge would give it to me.
And I have the filing.
I have it all.
And he says, Alex Jones is incompetent.
And Alex Jones took this money and I caught him, as I told you.
And I need to take full control of the company.
And I need to be able to basically fire him and all this other stuff.
And the judge immediately gives that to me.
And it has since excoriated McGill in court repeatedly.
I didn't talk to him after that.
Talked to him one time after that with my counsel.
Just a few weeks ago.
And he stayed away.
Except when I'm on air.
He comes here about once a week.
Every two weeks.
He's here for one day.
dan friesen
You haven't talked to your chief restructuring officer in a couple of weeks?
This sounds bleak.
jordan holmes
I don't know if they're getting along well.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
Listen.
I feel like at this point, they should have a more collegial relationship, you know?
Like, I'm gonna try and get, like, there should be a bit of a smirk!
Yeah, you caught me.
I'm going to try and get away with something next.
What do you think is going on?
We're on five, six years of this shit?
Of course I'm going to try something next.
dan friesen
There should be a music sting whenever you get caught.
jordan holmes
Hey, you caught me.
You know what's crazy?
The ones you haven't caught yet.
That's what you should be laughing.
It should be funny.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I can see a world where somebody who is in the position of a restructuring officer would be like, I'm trying to help you by bringing this arrangement into light before it's something that you will probably go to jail for.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there was no hope for anyone.
If you wanted somebody to do the job, it would have to be like me.
Because there's no way for a good-hearted, good-intentioned person to come in here and not get their ass blown away.
dan friesen
Quick pump on the brakes.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
Some of the accusations that Alex makes could entirely be true.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
I don't know.
Hilarious.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about this guy.
jordan holmes
I would like a malevolent monster.
dan friesen
Like the idea that he said that Alex is incompetent in a court filing.
jordan holmes
Makes sense to me.
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe he did.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's an accurate statement, though.
dan friesen
And it would be a good way to try and protect Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the company.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
He literally cannot be classified as a person capable of making decisions.
dan friesen
He can't have committed crimes with mens rea because he doesn't know what he's doing.
jordan holmes
He is incapable of knowing the thing he's doing.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So the issue has come to a head, if I understand Alex correctly, because...
There is a bankruptcy hearing that is coming up, and there is a decent chance that there will not be a settlement reached, and it'll be kicked out of bankruptcy court, and at that point, it...
Will likely either go to state or federal court.
If it goes to state court, there's a good chance that Judge Gamble is going to liquidate Alex's company.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But if he keeps it in federal court, he thinks he has a more preferable chance of having a wind down and being able to make money and maybe keep the company and that kind of shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, Alex's dad owns PQPR.
Which is the company that sells Alex supplements.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex owed $50 million or some shit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he has lawyers himself.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
And on behalf of PQPR.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
They filed a motion to try and keep this in federal court.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
If it comes out of the bankruptcy court.
jordan holmes
Because that way they would get a better shot at getting money.
dan friesen
That is what they believe.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so the CRO said no.
And the CRO is like, no, we're not going to make this filing.
jordan holmes
That should be how it works, right?
dan friesen
Right.
So now he, in retaliation, is trying to padlock the doors at his forewars.
alex jones
And so there's this thing coming up on the 14th of June in Houston at the federal courthouse.
I'll be there.
And we're like, okay, well, we'll see what happens there.
You know, if we can keep it in the federal court so we can ask for it back in there and we can do some negotiations.
There's other creditors, not just the creditors from the judgments.
We're still appealing all that.
And those creditors are saying they want to keep it in federal court.
Your dad.
Last week, PQPR, that's my dad's company that I have nothing to do with.
jordan holmes
We never eat dinner together.
dan friesen
That's a coincidence.
alex jones
Says, well, I only learned this last night.
I was like, what the hell's going on?
They put a filing in saying, hey, we need to get it teed up, but only Free Speech Systems CRO can do it.
To say, we want to keep this in federal court when you kick it out.
We want to put it back because we don't want it going to the state courts.
And they say, nope, says we're not doing that.
And by the way, don't have that hearing or I will padlock the doors with the private security company that I hired six, seven years ago and we'll shut it down.
Because I can't have my cash collateral challenge to have any expenses going on, even though the shopping cart's working, the warehouse in Denver's going, everything's purring along fine.
And I went, oh, but you can have security here while we're all kicked out of the building.
They can be paid.
He goes, yes, that's essential.
So it puts the company into cardiac arrest, turns the show off, the radio stations will all kill it.
Turning one of these off is like turning a nuclear reactor off.
There's a way you've got to do it.
Or you screw a bunch of people.
How is that fiduciary to just and to turn the whole thing off and turn the revenue off and all this, all because he's about to be removed on the 14th and I'm about to be back in control of my company in the interim for the new assault.
And so because he's not going to get paid $50,000 a month to sit around and do nothing, in my opinion, he's going to then Shut it down.
dan friesen
So you understand the broad sort of outline of the conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Is he getting paid $50,000 a month?
dan friesen
The CRO?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I believe so.
I believe that's about right.
jordan holmes
Fuck McGill, too.
Fuck him.
dan friesen
I have no interest in defending him.
I have no idea what he's up to or anything.
But I also don't believe the things that Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
No, I don't believe those either.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, not at all.
dan friesen
But do you understand the general shape of this?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is going to be removed as the CRO because it'll be out of the bankruptcy system and such.
And he doesn't want that to happen because then he'll lose his cash cow.
And so he's trying to shut down Infowars as a power grab or something along those lines.
It's very weird.
It doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
It doesn't work.
All of this brings me to this place where I laugh.
At the idea of Game of Thrones.
Because...
Finally, I truly agree that Trial by Combat makes way more sense than any of this bullshit.
Everybody go home, fight to the death, and then we move on.
Maybe Alex wins, maybe he loses, but we move on with our fucking lives.
dan friesen
I thought you were going to say that all of this brings you to the point where you want a double vodka and a couch.
jordan holmes
No!
I want to fight and just be done.
Just be done with it.
Don't tell me it's going to a different court.
unidentified
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
Fine.
dan friesen
So, um...
We have a situation here where Alex, you know, he saw this weird security guard yesterday.
So that would be on Friday after his show.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
The security guard that was ostensibly secretly hired by the CRO to put locks on the door so that he couldn't get in there.
dan friesen
The CRO believes himself to be in charge of these security forces.
Not hired by them.
They had already preexisted at InfoWars and such.
But yeah, also God told Alex they were going to shut him down.
alex jones
Well, it would have to be.
So let me go back to about four o 'clock yesterday.
I've known this, you know, guard's been here about a year, nice guy, you know, don't talk to him much, but friendly fellow.
Walks out to my car, comes out when I get there, you know, does a great job.
And he's acting kind of like this.
And my instincts are good.
I've learned to always follow them.
And God goes, okay, they're shutting Infowars down today.
You're not being told about this.
So I bluff him.
And I go, hey, why are extra guards coming in tonight?
And he goes, well, how do you know that?
I mean, I heard about it.
I mean, I heard about how they're going to lock the doors and change the locks tonight.
He goes, yeah, man, I just feel terrible.
I go, that's all right.
This is Jedi-level stuff, man.
This is what God's told me.
Like, you go with it.
When I tell you something, you go with it.
I literally saw it.
I'm like, okay, no, they're shutting us down tonight.
So I call up my people, and they go, listen, we don't want you to have a heart attack.
I told you earlier, we're trying to fix it right now.
But we've got to try to keep it in federal court and stuff, and he's not saying he's going to do that, and this is all crazy.
And I go, let me guess.
He's claiming there's no funds to run this, even though there aren't.
They go, yeah, what, have you talked to somebody?
I go, no, I just see how this goes.
dan friesen
So Alex bluffed the guard before calling the lawyers.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That wasn't an element of the story the first time around when he was telling it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He just saw the guard acting weird and then called the lawyers and then they told him.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Whereas now he had information going into the call with the lawyers because God told him and then he Jedi tricked the...
jordan holmes
I mean...
That's bad.
I would always give myself Jedi powers if it was available.
dan friesen
No, you're adding magic.
The story is being refined.
It's becoming more interesting.
And I appreciate that, too.
jordan holmes
For real.
Otherwise, again, we're stuck with just lawyers having conversations.
Right.
dan friesen
And we're stuck with Alex possibly saying things that are going to get him sued by Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes
I mean, somebody.
dan friesen
He's accusing him of crimes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Quite literally.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
alex jones
So, the only way I know how to explain this is just to explain it.
So, I go, hey, guess what?
It's 4 o 'clock in the afternoon.
I said, you guys have got two hours to tell me you're not locking the doors here, or I'm going on air right now, and I guess you think the security will file your order?
Sure, have them drag me out.
I'll call the police.
Because on record, I am still the owner under law with this type of corporation, and when McGill tried to take this place over a few months ago, The judge said, you can't do that under law.
And at the other bankruptcy hearing in Fort Worth, in the mediation, the judge told their lawyers and all of them that as well.
He is not the managing member.
He is not.
He is the manager for the court of the operation that reports back.
He's not that person.
So I said, you can't even do this.
You've got to get a judge's order.
So they say, we don't care.
We're ordering them to lock this thing.
I say, fine.
You've got two hours.
I'm going on air.
I mean, you're going to throw me that briar patch.
You did it.
Okay, an hour later calls up.
Okay, well, you can pay $15,000, which I don't even, you know, out of my bankruptcy, you can pay to keep it running three days.
That's the cost of it.
It's really like eight, nine grand for the crew and all the stuff.
And then I go, okay, the call get made.
Actually, no, you're in bankruptcy.
They don't want your money.
They want your dad, who's basically out of money himself.
They want $15,000.
My dad says, absolutely.
We don't want to close that place.
My dad's got a debt on here, a stake on it.
Whatever happens, of course we'll do that.
McGill calls back up to his lawyers and says, you know what?
It's $25,000 now, and you better send me an email by 735, 730, or I'm shutting it down.
It's just all like weird, thug, gangster stuff.
My dad goes, sure, but does that mean it's going to go up again?
So, they didn't want me to go on air.
That's the only reason they didn't lock this place.
They thought they were going to sneak attack it and I'd come here and it'd be, you know, locked up.
And I think me talking about this, they may do it tomorrow.
And it's fine.
I'm coming here with the police.
I'm calling the police.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
So, this is...
Okay, so, if you try and keep this in your head...
In terms of the flow.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Show ends with Eddie Bravo talking about Flat Earth and what have you.
Four o 'clock, he bluffs the security guard and calls the lawyers or calls the lawyers after seeing a security guard.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Unclear exactly, but that's at about four.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
He threatens to go on air and is extorted for money by the CRO at about 7.30.
jordan holmes
Love that, yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
So this is quite a night.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean...
unidentified
Fuck Alex.
jordan holmes
That's how you have to talk to these assholes to get anything.
They tried lawyers.
They tried being polite.
They tried being impolite through lawyer shit.
Fuck you.
Pay me.
Money or you die.
dan friesen
That's it.
Here's what's fascinating about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A great deal of the time on this episode on this stream is spent with Alex talking about how he's been too nice.
And everybody's gaslighting him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That sounds right.
dan friesen
So he has a sort of entirely different view of things.
jordan holmes
I would imagine so.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Somehow narcissists seem to find themselves being the victim.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And man, I think if I were Patrick McGill, one, I'd be afraid for my life.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The way that Alex is targeting him, he's putting his picture up on screen, he's calling him a cretin, he's accusing him of extortion, basically, for keeping the show on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I would be very uncomfortable if I were him.
Number one.
Number two, I would be immediately filing something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I would be, I would, Alex would be in trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you can't, you can't.
Like, say something like this about someone's reputation?
jordan holmes
I mean, I would personally feel like I was stealing money from the families because I was taking $50,000 a month for a job I was only showing up for a couple of days.
I would feel like that.
But that may be just me.
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Because I'm not a lawyer person who doesn't give a fuck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Apologies.
dan friesen
The only coming in a few days or whatever.
That's Alex's perspective.
We don't know what kind of work he's actually doing.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
I'm going to be ungenerous.
dan friesen
Okay, that's fine.
I'll allow it.
jordan holmes
Because he is.
dan friesen
Well, would you like to learn a little bit about Patrick McGill's politics?
jordan holmes
I think I would.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I imagine so.
alex jones
I was told by the people on the other side of the building, because this is the broadcast part, the other side over there is accounting and the customer service and the janitor in-house, stuff like that.
They're like, man, do you know McGill is like a super hardcore woke leftist?
And I'm like, no.
Because he was all like, I like your politics.
I agree with you.
And I'm like, whoa, it's really creepy.
He'd come over and sit down next to you.
I really love you.
You're such a great person.
My family really loves you.
Behind the scenes, he's like, that Jones needs to, he's going to get people killed.
He needs to be in jail, telling people not to take shots.
This is after all this has come out.
So he's up here two weeks ago.
He goes in John Harmon's office.
He comes in the control room while I'm on air and goes, And I had vaccine people on.
He goes, "He's gonna get people killed?" The vaccine's wonderful.
This place is a disgrace.
dan friesen
Yes, he's a woke leftist who likes vaccines.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know if you need to be a woke leftist.
I think you need to listen to a show for about an hour, and then you'll be like, this man needs to be stopped.
dan friesen
I think being a fairly normal person, you'd be shocked by watching a bit of this show.
jordan holmes
Being a regular-ass guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like, this is fucking irresponsible.
jordan holmes
This is crazy.
How is this legal?
dan friesen
So Alex slept at the studio last night.
Right.
On the couch.
jordan holmes
Because the locks might have been changed.
And he wasn't going to let them do that.
dan friesen
And guess what?
It's going to continue.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
That's what's happening.
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Are you sleeping?
unidentified
Oh, fuck yes.
alex jones
I mean, this could be the last show I ever do.
I slept here last night.
And I'm going to sleep here tonight.
And I'm going to sleep here the next night.
Because I'm going, and I'm not mad at the guys.
They're nice.
They want to follow their...
Their orders, without a court order.
I'm going to sit there and call the police.
And we're going to have a good old-fashioned airing of this in the public, all of it.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex is going to stay here, and he's going to broadcast his downfall.
This is exactly what you would kind of expect is going to happen.
Yeah.
We'll see if it does.
But it's not a healthy plot.
It's bunker thoughts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is bunker thoughts.
But you know what?
This is like...
This is like something where I wish I could be the type of person who could live in a tree.
Like a giant tree.
That is going to get cut down, you know?
It's an old-ass tree.
I wish I was the type of person who could live in the tree and then, like, just broadcast 24 hours of just absolute lunacy as I lose my mind in the tree.
dan friesen
Yeah, various tree things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's saving a tree.
Those are tree thoughts, right?
This is bunker thoughts.
These are bad thoughts.
dan friesen
And it's a little bit reminiscent of a lot of stuff in his world that is scary.
Things like standoffs.
Things like Bill Cooper's end.
There's a lot of stuff that's like, well, there's a tradition in your community of stuff like this that goes bad.
jordan holmes
And you've got a lot of guns in the office.
unidentified
He does.
dan friesen
He has that Barrett.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, he does have the Barrett.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
What a day that would be.
dan friesen
So I was a little bit worried at this point.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Because I'm listening to the show.
You know, you expect maybe you're going to hear something about Bilderberg.
And instead, the CRO tried to change the locks last night.
jordan holmes
It's the fucking plot of Airheads.
dan friesen
Alex needs his mixtape played, his demo.
jordan holmes
Brendan Fraser's right there!
dan friesen
So McGill.
Yeah.
Called Alex drunk at some point.
jordan holmes
What?
Sorry, what now?
dan friesen
According to Alex.
jordan holmes
All right, I'm listening.
dan friesen
And this was after he made the filing in court that said that Alex was incompetent and all this shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex recorded him.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
And he calls up drunk.
And I don't have a recording app, but we had other phones.
So I put it on speaker, and he's drunk.
And we recorded it.
And I say, Pat, why did you file that thing again, saying that we're hiding money and that I'm incompetent?
He says, I'm incompetent.
And I'm a bad person to the court.
And why do you think the judge would give me?
He goes, Alex, I give you my word.
That's fake.
I filed nothing.
And he says it over and over again.
I swear to you, that's not real.
Your lawyers are lying to you.
You'll hear the tape, I'm sure.
Hell, you want to hear it right now?
Maybe we'll have to ask one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know what?
alex jones
Let's just air it.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Do it.
alex jones
We're airing it.
jordan holmes
That's probably illegal.
alex jones
So, I'm not taking this stuff lying down.
dan friesen
I think it's a one-party consent situation.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
So, I think it might not be illegal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I will say that this is a tease that is, uh, he follows through.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He does play the tape.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, whether it lives up to exactly what he's saying, debatable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It seems like they have quite a bit of a disagreement about what this filing may or may not have said.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So instead of saying, I didn't file that, he's saying, you're saying that I filed something.
dan friesen
And I would never file what your dad is describing to you.
Right, right, right.
I wouldn't do that.
jordan holmes
What I filed was a professional document.
dan friesen
Right.
It seems like through what you can glean from context clues.
Yeah.
McGill has heard that Alex's dad thinks that he filed saying that Alex is an alcoholic.
And he's saying, I didn't do that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That seems to be the sticking point.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But we will end up hearing a bit of this tape.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In a little bit.
jordan holmes
All right.
They should have a sitcom or a reality show during this part.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Definitely.
dan friesen
So I started to get a little concerned because I was pointing out to you how the timeline...
Fits.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Of Friday evening.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I started to just have some doubts.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
alex jones
All right.
Thank you for joining us.
It's 1223 Central Standard Time.
156 days out for the most important election in world history.
Info Awards is still up.
Bandout video is still up.
But I learned yesterday at about 4 o 'clock that they were going to lock up the building, kick all the crew out, and...
Take over the company outside of even a court ruling.
dan friesen
So, this just doesn't...
It's not sitting right.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Because Alex is supposed to have learned, whether it's through tricking the security guard or calling his lawyer or God telling him, at 4 o 'clock, the things were going to be shut down.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He threatens to go on air, and then 7.30, there's, like, this extortion conversation with the CRO.
Then I'm supposed to believe he goes to dinner with Mario Nafal and has a double vodka and then comes and crashes on the couch?
Like, he would have stayed at InfoWars if all this stuff was true.
Why would he go at the very time when they were supposed to be putting the locks on the doors?
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
This makes no sense.
jordan holmes
Well, what especially makes no sense is starting with the iced tea.
You might as well just dispense with that.
If you've got this news, you're going for the double vodka.
dan friesen
And I couldn't blame you.
jordan holmes
No, never.
Not once.
dan friesen
I think a more likely scenario is that all of this is bullshit.
And then Alex is running out of money and he can't run the show anymore.
I think that there's a decent chance that the CRO is like, there is no money.
That we can allot for this stuff.
And the CRO isn't playing his games.
I think that's probably what's going on.
Shit's getting down to the wire, so Alex got drunk and slept at the studio the previous night, and now this is a way that he can dramatize the entire thing?
We're running out of money, let's have our last stand or something like that on air.
I'm not sure, I fully believe the idea that they were going to put padlocks on the doors or anything like that, but I do believe that underneath this, there is a, like...
Your money might be running out.
I think that's believable.
jordan holmes
There is absolutely no way a chief restructuring officer of any salt can look at Alex's business and not be like, you know your overhead on this studio is absurd.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
For what you do.
dan friesen
What are you paying Owen?
jordan holmes
You could just downsize.
It's you, man.
unidentified
Just do, I guess, a fucking podcast, idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Actually, Alex gets into that a little bit.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Not the podcast aspect, but he's trying to...
Cast Patrick McGill in a bad light.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's like, you know, someone has to do this.
Can you imagine who would accept that job being a CRO for InfoWars?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Like, yeah, no, probably tough.
He's like, bottom of the barrel, who I had to choose from.
jordan holmes
Tough, yeah, I believe that.
I do believe that.
dan friesen
Okay, buddy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex, he's not going to get violent.
If people come to the studio.
And it's totally legal for him to play this video.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This audio of the phone call.
alex jones
And Florida's legal.
Texas is legal.
We're both one-party consent states.
They'll try to say something.
I don't care.
This is all going out.
This is here.
And if they try to do anything, I'll go on Tucker Carlson next week.
He's ready, by the way.
I'll just say that.
So you ain't stopping shit.
Okay?
I'll be in Florida on Tucker Carlson next week.
I'll be on Patrick Ben-David.
I'll be on Joe Rogan.
I'll be on every...
So see, you ain't stopping.
Shit.
But let's just get that straight, Buster.
You think you're gonna fuck me over and try to put me in fucking prison and foul lies about me and too lazy to check I'd follow it with the court?
Obvious who he's working with.
jordan holmes
The Clintons?
alex jones
You made a big miscalculation, buddy boy.
So I'm sure...
Because I'm getting the phones ringing off the hook here.
They're going to give orders tonight to shut this son of a bitch down.
I'm not going to get violent.
I'm not going to be mean.
I'm just going to be here and I'm going to call the police.
I'm going to tell the police, where's the order?
You ever seen somebody take a company without a judge's order?
You ever seen that?
We got armed guys in uniforms here that work for me and this guy says he's their boss and kicked me out of the building.
And that's fine.
We're not going to resist.
If the cops say go, I'm going to go.
But I'm going to be taking my stuff out of this building.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
You understand they are working for whomever pays them.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They are not Alex's...
dan friesen
Well, I think that Alex is pretty accustomed to viewing his security guards as kind of like his squad.
jordan holmes
Soldier outfit, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I can see that.
I don't know, man.
At this point, just the experience of listening to this, I was definitely of the mind that Alex is never going to play this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I thought, like, this is a great bluff.
And then when he did play it, I was quite surprised.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would be too.
dan friesen
Yes, because it's quite long.
jordan holmes
I would not be surprised at that.
dan friesen
But then Alex makes another claim of some evidence that he's going to bring out.
alex jones
All right.
He was so drunk he couldn't even control his phone when he called me.
And this is God that did this.
jordan holmes
Made him drunk?
alex jones
And by the way, there's more.
Oh.
Do you think I might have hit record when he came in my office that time?
unidentified
And said...
alex jones
*Sigh*
I've just decided to air that, too.
Yeah, you think I'm gonna take it?
You think you can lie to me like a frickin' snake in the Jungle Book?
What's his name, Ka?
He's like, "Sleepy.
No, I'm your friend, Mowgli." No, you're not.
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
Not my friend.
That's how...
You know, if Mowgli had a friend like you, instead of that Baloo ass, that's the way you do it.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
So we've got a recorded phone conversation where he's drunk, and now we have a recording of him trying to elicit Alex to do a crime in the office.
jordan holmes
I...
I just don't get why everybody's making their...
Because to me...
To me, Alex has been given something of a gift, which is just total freedom.
He's going to lose.
There's no way for him to win.
dan friesen
So fucking go!
I think that there's no way for him not to win.
jordan holmes
There's definitely that, too.
dan friesen
Because they can't take his dad's supplement company or whatever.
If he just starts a podcast, he can have his dad be the sponsor for it.
I don't know.
I think that...
jordan holmes
Yeah, trial by combat does make way more sense, doesn't it?
dan friesen
So we get to this McGill phone call.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And, yeah, I...
unidentified
I give you...
alex jones
And, you know, it's a sealed federal document.
If people wonder, they challenge me, I'll just publish it.
Got it right here on my phone.
jordan holmes
Do it.
alex jones
You want to read the document where I'm a criminal and I'm out of control and I'm bad and I'm terrible and this place will be shut down and what for him?
I can't get money in here.
He just killed the advertising and killed the product sales and killed what's going on the road and fired a bunch of people and seduced the security head.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Metaphorically.
alex jones
While they all sit around in some big legendary operation and pretend they built this.
You dumb bastards.
You miscalculated.
It'll only make us bigger.
We'll come back even stronger.
So we don't go out with a whimper.
We go out with a bang.
Call me Captain Ahab.
jordan holmes
That's not the line.
alex jones
Call me Ishmael.
Call me Moby Dick.
Call me whatever you want.
So here is Pat McGill, the so-called CRO.
Who's never even here and does absolutely nothing and did a whole bunch of other horrible stuff I haven't even told you about that he kept from the court, we'll be telling you about.
Millions of dollars.
Not here.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
You see, I'm not even bringing out the strongest stuff, and this is devastating.
Mm-hmm.
Devastating.
Here it is, ladies and gentlemen, for the world to hear, telling me he didn't file this secret filing a day before that I got the next day because the judge gave it to me that he never thought I would get, telling me he didn't file it.
Listen to the gaslighter of gaslighters, Patrick McGill.
Yeah, Pat, can you hear me?
dan friesen
So, this is weird because Alex isn't like the document that is beneath this.
It's a secret filing that he's not releasing, but he's releasing him confronting his CRO about the filing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So it's difficult to sort of parse out exactly where...
jordan holmes
It's inexact.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Luckily, I don't care.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I think it's fucking hilarious that Alex is taking to his show for hours on Saturday to...
unidentified
Get into a war with his chief restructured officer.
jordan holmes
It's very funny.
It is demonstrably funny.
There's just no other way around it.
dan friesen
It's not that interesting.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nope.
But it is funny.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
It's not what you'd expect.
Secret recordings of the CRO.
All right.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would find it difficult if there was an opportunity.
If I'm going through all of InfoWars' finances, I'm sure there's a breaking point where eventually you're like, if I took...
A million dollars.
They wouldn't even know.
They wouldn't know.
They couldn't find it.
I can't find it.
dan friesen
Yeah, you might.
You might.
So if I'm McGill, I'm not thinking about stealing from Alex.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I am thinking I should be careful.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When Alex sounds like he's on his show, he might be recording me.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So I would have my red flags up all over the place on this call.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Well, anyways, so.
I know you love me, very sweet, but obviously that filing hurt my dad's feelings with some other people, you know, where I'm incompetent and stuff like that.
unidentified
Okay, so let's talk about that.
That did not happen.
Drunk.
alex jones
Well, I mean, what did happen?
pat mcgill
I never, and I called your dad, and he wouldn't take my call.
unidentified
I would never do that.
That did not happen.
alex jones
Okay, good.
So what happened?
jacob chansley
I have no idea.
dan friesen
This guy's drunk.
jordan holmes
It's a quick...
That's a quick pronouncement.
I feel pretty confident in knowing when or when not people are drunk, and I don't think I have enough information yet.
dan friesen
I don't either.
I mean, he could just be the way he talks.
I don't have a baseline for him, necessarily.
jordan holmes
I imagine you want to repeat things slowly to Alex.
dan friesen
Also, keep this in mind for Alex's voice a little bit later in the show.
Might have some more iced tea.
jordan holmes
Drunk.
dan friesen
So, Alex is confronting McGill about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he reads from this filing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is where this kind of difference of perspective seems to be around whether or not McGill called him an alcoholic.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Okay.
And that seems to be the confusion.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
I never said what your dad said I said.
And that document does not say what your dad said.
It said I would never.
alex jones
No, I understand.
Listen, I got thick skin.
I have very thick skin.
unidentified
I know that, Alex, but I would never do that.
I'm just telling you, I would never do that.
That's not me.
That's not me.
alex jones
Sure, sure, sure.
Well, listen, I believe you, Pat.
Let me just read you this.
This is item one, page one.
FSS employees, approximately 50 personnel, and has the potential to generate very real significant value for the creditors.
Point two.
Unfortunately, the principal, Alex Jones, can be unreliable and is unable to competently manage the affairs of SSS.
It goes on from there, but unable to competently manage means incompetent.
So, look, I understand that I declared bankruptcy, but I thought that was some legalese term, meaning I needed help.
So I don't even take that as an insult.
They all got upset about it.
Is that the document, or is there a different one?
pat mcgill
No, they talk about you being an alcoholic.
unidentified
That's what your dad was saying, that there was something that said you were an alcoholic and you were not reliable.
And I said, I never said that.
alex jones
Okay, well, I think they were reading between the lines.
What is the plot?
Tell me.
jordan holmes
I think your dad was reading.
unidentified
I've not seen what you're saying.
Can you send that to me?
alex jones
Sure, sure.
Well, then let's move on from the alcoholic thing.
I don't think that's in the document.
I didn't see that.
But what about the unreliable, unable to comprehend?
unidentified
I've never seen that.
I have never seen that.
alex jones
Good pause.
Back it up 20 seconds.
He's now testified in court.
He did it.
It's real.
They did it.
We have it.
It's been on national news.
They put it in the news, and I'm incompetent in all this.
It was in Bloomberg.
dan friesen
All right.
I mean, this is quite a battle between these two.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know if McGill is saying entirely that, like, a filing that said that Alex can't run his business well.
Yeah.
Like, it didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He seems to have had a conversation or maybe heard from Alex's dad.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because he does say that Alex's dad won't answer his calls now.
unidentified
Well.
dan friesen
So maybe Alex's dad left him a mean message about how you called my son an alcoholic.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that seems to be what he thinks Alex is mad about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they're talking past each other a little bit.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's a moot point.
Like, Alex, the idea now is not that your business makes money for you.
It now makes money for other people.
So it cannot be run to your desires.
It should be run to theirs.
Do you understand?
So you can't be trusted to competently manage FSS.
dan friesen
Also, you probably couldn't to begin with.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Done.
I don't care if you're competent or not.
dan friesen
So Alex has paused it and he starts swearing about Miguel.
jordan holmes
Good for him.
Right.
dan friesen
This is what I would describe as the first outburst.
Okay.
And where there's a lot of language.
There's a lot of language coming up.
It's like Evangelion.
jordan holmes
The first impact.
Yeah.
alex jones
But these people, in my opinion, are crooks.
They think everybody else is a crook.
Dude, I ain't a crook, man.
My family founded Texas.
They died in the major battles.
My family came over to Mayflower, bitch.
My family invented the stock exchange.
My family owned railroads, bitch.
You come from scum, not me.
And I'm not putting little people down, but my family's kick-ass, man.
jordan holmes
By which is everybody but me.
alex jones
People worked with us for hundreds of years because we're the real deal.
You got that?
And I won't sit there and have scumbags like you sit there and claim I'm a goddamn criminal because I'm the fucking opposite, you motherfucker.
jordan holmes
Not good swearing.
alex jones
You want a fucking political war?
You got one.
And just pull one more fucking thing.
You'll see.
I'll fucking release the other video.
In fact, I don't make threats.
I'll play on the motherfucker.
Let me dig it out.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So you got to get some...
It's already too much swearing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's not good swearing.
dan friesen
And I don't feel great saying that as someone who swears a bit.
jordan holmes
I swear nigh constantly.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's bad swearing.
dan friesen
It's a little clunky.
So Alex goes back to the recording of this call that he had with Miguel.
And there's another thing that's going through it that seems to be that Miguel had been in a fight before.
Sure.
Ray Battaglia.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And now won't talk to Alex anymore.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
And Alex believes that it's because he's afraid of the illegality that the CRO is doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
And he won't be involved with anything like this.
jordan holmes
As opposed to no longer legally or professionally having to, and thus choosing not to.
dan friesen
Right.
Or being like, I discovered something about the way Alex runs his business and I can't be associated with that.
I'm not entirely sure.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's clearly a lot of...
Backstory to this phone call that we're not privy to.
And one piece of information that you're not privy to is that Rob Dew is sitting in the car with Alex while they're recording this.
So here's a little bit of that.
alex jones
see it.
unidentified
Thanks back.
All right.
Thank you.
I'm going to try.
I'm going to try.
All right.
alex jones
What the fuck was that?
Hold on.
Let's just stop.
Don't stop it.
Let's get this on record.
I'm not trying to be mean here.
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
This is very dangerous.
He's had a psychotic break.
The date is, what is it?
It's March?
jordan holmes
Today's March 6th.
alex jones
March 6th.
2024.
2024.
And we were forced to record this because we told him in multiple lawyer meetings when he first came in about Mountain Way and a few sponsors, and we wanted to bring the sponsors on.
We wanted to transfer the money to him.
He said, great.
I'll tell you when to do it.
then told the court that we had hidden the money as a power play.
He has re-put that in the new document that he filed today, or I guess it was yesterday, the 7th, the 5th.
And now he is saying that he did not file this document that he clearly filed.
This is an unedited tape.
This has been done under duress.
with my crew and everybody and I'm being accused of crimes I haven't committed Pat McGill is I believe mentally ill alright end recording Okay.
jordan holmes
End recording.
Fucking Starfleet Command.
dan friesen
So that to me kind of feels like narrative building.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe trying to create a piece of evidence that you can later use.
Because Alex knows he's performing, and you can tell that in his conversation with...
So I don't know.
I don't find this to be a super compelling piece of evidence for the context that Alex is giving.
Although I do love Rob Doe being like, what the fuck is that?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think one of Alex's great underrated skills is the ability to prime.
Any time he is listening or seeing or presenting anything, he is already framing and priming the audience for how they should.
dan friesen
That's what so much of the false flag stuff is.
False flags are coming.
It's priming for when anything happens, he can use it for his own purposes.
This is an essential skill, I think, if you're going to be in this field.
And it's something that, yeah, Alex, it's just muscle memory for him, essentially.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's easy to make people see stuff if they already want to see it or are already predisposed to see what you show them.
dan friesen
In another lifetime, Alex could have been a wonderful storyteller.
A gifted...
jordan holmes
If he hadn't made a deal with the devil over some fucking steak, then maybe we'd be fine.
dan friesen
I think all of the best storytellers in the world have made deals with the devil.
jordan holmes
Have begun with a deal with the devil.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So Alex, now that he's played this...
This call.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's back on the fucking offense, man.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he's excited.
jordan holmes
That is what crazy people think.
Oh, yeah.
Listening to that tape goes, I think he's crazy.
I think he's mentally ill.
This guy is out of control.
dan friesen
He's drunk.
So Alex is back on the offense.
Take no prisoners.
jordan holmes
This is war.
Motherfuckers.
alex jones
God, it feels so good to be on the offensive.
Look out.
In my peaceful, loving way.
You're like Grendel, marching into the keep.
In Norway, thinking he's the boss.
unidentified
Is that what Grendel was thinking?
That's right.
alex jones
I've got you.
You don't have me.
I'm not locked in here with you.
You're locked in here with me.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Figured it out?
Oh, you didn't figure it out.
You think the New World Order tried to offer me hundreds of millions of dollars to serve them because they thought I was just one more of the fucking pussies?
I'm not a goddamn pussy like you.
I'm not a sellout.
I'm for Team Humanity.
You declare war on me, I will take the challenge.
And you will get what you're looking for.
unidentified
16. All right, I got some closing comments I want to make.
jordan holmes
Closing comments, I feel like.
alex jones
Just play a report, play a promo.
I'm going to take a piss.
I'm going to close this out.
And for the dumbasses that think they padlocked this building tonight, this stuff doesn't come out.
It'll make the stuff we release 50 times bigger, you dumb assholes.
dan friesen
So they're trying to stop Alex from putting out this stuff that he's already put out.
He just played the audio.
So their incentive to lock him down for that no longer makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they might as well let it go.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's got some closing thoughts.
But he wants to gather himself, go take a piss.
So play a special report.
We'll come back and wind this thing down.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Closing comments, huh?
dan friesen
Parting is such sweet sorrow.
I think he literally says that.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
It's a little poetic.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
So pray for us and pray for the crew because I'm out of funds.
I'll try to figure something out and try to reconstitute something else.
Hopefully they back off and go away and they remove this guy and we can move forward.
But that's where we are.
And, you know, parting is such sweet sorrow.
Out, out, breathe candle.
Life comes, life goes.
Things are born, they grow, they come to fruition, they get old, they die.
jordan holmes
In a way, giving life.
alex jones
So I could do a tour of the place and talk about memories.
I could talk about all the amazing things we've done together and the whole history of it.
But that will be celebrated through the destruction of Infowars, which I'm not happy for.
I've stayed the course.
I don't want that to happen.
But I will make plenty of lemonade out of lemons.
And I will not be gaslit, and I will not sit here, and I will not lay down.
But it is critical.
If you want to support us...
To support my one sponsor that's separate from this operation, drjonesnaturals.com.
dan friesen
This is one of the big messages of the entire stream, which is, stop buying from me, go to my dad.
jordan holmes
The fucking idea.
The fucking goal to say the one advertiser I'm not associated with has my literal fucking name in it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Great.
You raised me.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
How?
That's...
dan friesen
Totally unrelated company.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's...
Okay.
Here's the problem.
There's a lot of problems here.
But one, the language of Alex cannot be used in our current legal system.
You can't be like, I'll fight you to the fucking end with another motion to try and keep it in federal court!
Fuck, no.
Done.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
I will murder you politically with motions.
jordan holmes
Shut up.
Get out of here.
Right.
Second, just...
Just the idea of somebody listening to this and going, well, I better buy it from his dad to keep him in business.
dan friesen
It's important.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
Well, I think maybe there are some people who have that perspective.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
So we sign off here, this last clip.
Alex signs off on what could be his last broadcast.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's such an amazing thing.
So this is probably my last broadcast here.
I think they'll probably shut us down tonight.
There'll probably be police here, everything else.
It's okay.
I'll be here.
And I'll give the address out at the time for peaceful people to come and just document what's happening.
And that's where we are.
This is history.
We knew they were coming.
We knew the Imperial troops were near the base.
Another cheesy Star Wars analogy.
And we're here.
So partying is such sweet sorrow.
It's hard to sign off.
Maybe we're here tomorrow.
Maybe we're here the next day.
Probably not.
So from the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you for all you've done and all your prayers and all your support.
It's been amazing.
This shows on ratcheting up the attack.
We'll try to shut down the next thing we do if this is just part of it.
But they can't silence all of us.
And I want you to realize how important you are and how amazing you are.
Black, white, old, young, male, female, you name it.
You're just amazing people.
And it's been a great journey together.
We've changed the world together.
And all glory goes to God.
So for myself and the whole crew and my family, you are the M4S family.
Thank you so much and have a good evening.
Please take action now in a peaceful way.
Thank you.
dan friesen
That would have been a sweet landing.
jordan holmes
That's not terrible.
I was going to say, there's absolutely no fucking way this is the closing clip.
There's no fucking way this is the closing clip, you asshole!
How dare you!
dan friesen
There's like 30 more clips.
jordan holmes
Of course there is!
I can't believe it!
We're doing a nine-hour episode again!
dan friesen
So look, that would have been great.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I mean, the show sucked.
He's just complaining about his CRO a bunch.
But that is a really nice landing.
Love each other.
Take action in a peaceful way.
This has been great.
We've changed the world together.
jordan holmes
It's better than he has any right to.
dan friesen
Yes.
It feels like if this is my pretend last show, this is a great last word.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
It's like Conan.
jordan holmes
Don't be cynical.
Here's what I'm saying, though.
This is prime late 90s, early 2000s.
We do a rooftop concert.
Right?
You do a rooftop concert.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
That's what you do.
dan friesen
That would be great.
jordan holmes
Empire Records.
dan friesen
They have gunmen on the rooftop at Infowars.
jordan holmes
You know, aforementioned airheads.
I mean, you do a rooftop concert.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I think it would be great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Save Infowars dance and concert.
jordan holmes
100%.
We're going to sell it up to get to the dance.
dan friesen
That's probably it.
We got Nugent.
jordan holmes
We got Nugent.
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
So, look.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was trying to figure out how to make this joke, and I can't really figure it out, so I'll just tell you what my joke was going to be.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
The twist is that this episode was recorded months ago.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it was aired because he pretended to record his last episode months ago a couple times.
jordan holmes
I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I was trying to figure out a way to make it- To pull it off.
To pretend that this was actually- Yeah.
But it's just, it's too topical.
There's no way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's tough.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex signed off pretty cleanly.
Could have walked away.
Decided to come back on air a little bit later.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Probably after some iced tea.
dan friesen
It's so hard for me to not tell you some things.
So let that stammer be your guide.
So here's where we jump back in.
alex jones
And when I went off here, I said, in about one hour, We're going to get a call.
They're going to tell the security to shut this place down.
And sure enough, the CRO was appointed by the court.
He told them to do it, and the people were smart enough to not do it because you've got to have a court order.
You've got to have a reason.
So it's a soluble company that is solvent.
Not soluble, but solvent.
And so I went, okay, well, we're going to go back on here.
And then everybody batted it around, and there was consensus.
And all these lawyers and people, oh, actually, there is no law to shut down InfoWars.
But again, these people don't care.
There's also a one-dimensional view, and it's not the judge himself, he's been very fair.
There's a one-dimensional view that the person I exposed, Pat McGill, who's watching right now, thinks he shuts this building down and he stops it.
It's called, I know, McGill, you don't know this stuff.
It's called the Streisand effect.
You might want to do a little research on the Streisand effect, just for yourself.
See, because I don't set up Machiavelli and stuff, but when somebody tries it on me, I'll out Machiavelli, Machiavelli.
So, so, so...
This is what's going on.
dan friesen
So the plot thread is continuing from the earlier stream of Alex being mad at his CRO.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So this will act as our bridge between the two.
jordan holmes
The topic that gets us to the finish line, if you will.
dan friesen
Now, I should tell you that there's one thing that is quite different about this stream compared to the other one.
And that is that Owen Troyer and Harrison Smith, the knights of the Infowars roundtable, are there.
jordan holmes
They are not there.
dan friesen
They are there.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
For the entire four fucking hours.
jordan holmes
For the entire...
dan friesen
I believe so, yes.
Because they do chime in.
Maybe they pop out.
I don't think they do.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm telling you.
Rooftop concert, guys.
Get your shit together.
dan friesen
This is such a better idea.
unidentified
Complaint about the CRO on the street.
dan friesen
So yeah, he's trying to shut him down again, I guess, on Saturday, in between Alex's streams.
jordan holmes
Well, it's smart.
I mean, I imagine somebody might have texted him.
You'd have to have somebody monitoring the show at least a little bit, right?
dan friesen
I mean, I'd be terrified if I were him.
Yeah, and then to hear what he just said, I'd be watching because I'd be like...
Is he going to put out a bounty on me?
jordan holmes
It's not like this is a brand new behavior.
A million dollars for McGill's head is very available.
dan friesen
Yeah, he would do that with his lawyer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Totally fine.
So Alex keeps making the allegation of the second recording that he has about McGill.
alex jones
My integrity is absolutely 110% paramount.
So that's where this is.
I'm sitting here with the crap you pulled and the things you did that I told my lawyers about.
Like, he came to my office and he said, listen, Alex, like three months ago, we're friends.
Why don't you just keep money aside because I don't care.
I'm like, hang on to the bathroom real quick because I'm not sitting there like recording.
I'll come back.
Oh, oh, tell me that again.
Yeah.
It's over.
unidentified
Okay?
alex jones
It's over.
Game over.
I think by the end of this show, we'll just play it for you.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
So, keep playing your fucking games with me.
Okay?
Game's over.
dan friesen
He hasn't played this clip yet.
Right.
That's important to keep in mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's now threatened over the course of a long time.
jordan holmes
Multiple times.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex is like, hey, you know what?
This whole story about the CRO getting rid of our advertisers and stuff, that involves John Harmon.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
John Harmon, who is the head of and the guy who opened the Mountain Way, the advertising company, and also apparently was the one who overheard McGill talking about how he liked vaccines.
Alex is like, I'm going to get that guy on the phone.
So he decides to call Cold Call out of the blue.
He calls John Harmon on his cell phone and holds it up to the mic to break the news.
jordan holmes
Again, studio overhead.
dan friesen
To break the news.
That they're going to try and shut down Infowars.
alex jones
Do you know I'm live, John?
Do you know I'm live, John?
unidentified
Do what?
alex jones
I'm live on air right now.
I want you to know that.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
alex jones
I asked the crew to call you on your cell phone.
Are you guys able to call him before we go to Spacers comments?
I asked the crew to call you.
They didn't.
I'm not mad at him.
I'll just show him how fast I can call somebody or pull the story.
It's kind of an erotic thing.
Can you guys call John Harmon?
I want to get him on air.
I'll just do it right now with the speaker.
So, John, have you heard about the controversy?
I don't blame you not tuning in on Saturday.
Have you heard what's going on?
unidentified
No, I have no idea.
alex jones
And again, John, we're on air right now.
dan friesen
Don't say anything.
alex jones
How long have you worked here?
dan friesen
Since 2002.
alex jones
All right, so 22 years.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And you started out as a board operator, and you've been a sales manager and an affiliate relations director, right?
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
Well, we got word last night they were going to close InfoWars and kick us all out.
unidentified
Oh, dang.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Oh, dang.
Oh, dang.
Quite a response.
jordan holmes
It's probably somebody who's been like...
You know they're going to close this place out eventually, right?
dan friesen
Or somebody who's heard Alex say this a hundred fucking times.
jordan holmes
Oh, dang.
dan friesen
Oh, dang.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, they're coming for us.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, you're live on air again, huh?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
All right.
Okay.
I mean, it's not a response of somebody who seems...
Wildly concerned about the job he's had for 22 years.
jordan holmes
No, it really doesn't.
It feels like he should be more concerned, yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe people don't take Alex's pronouncements too seriously.
jordan holmes
It's tough, too.
dan friesen
So he, Alex, is just accusing McGill of crimes, and he says he's going to go to the FBI about it.
unidentified
Great.
alex jones
If you had an image of an encyclopedia of a gremlin, it's Patrick McGill.
Put his picture back up, folks.
Everybody needs to know who this guy is.
I know he flipped out, wants to shut down.
Hey, Pat, get the show shut down, if that's what you want to do.
Streisand effect, dude.
I know you don't know anything.
Take your shots, buddy.
Streisand effect.
Guys, pull up definition of Streisand effect for old Patrick McGill.
owen shroyer
That was a nice house Barbara Streisand had that she didn't want anybody to know about.
alex jones
So she got upset about us.
It was the top story in the country.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and then everybody...
Now it's a famous picture of her giant mansion on the beach.
alex jones
All right, well, hey, John, I'm sorry I called you about this.
And, you know, we don't have any plans.
I'm going to try to...
Get a new employer.
I can't be the owner in the future.
We'll try to figure something out.
I think regardless, I have to dig through my phone and get the other stuff, but it's there.
I couldn't even believe it.
I called my lawyers right after.
He was just in my office saying, you can keep money in secretly.
Let's work together.
I said, dude, is this a joke?
It's just like, come on, man.
Come on.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
I just played a...
Two of hearts.
I have a royal flush, you understand?
And it's not like blackmail.
I don't even want to put the stuff out on air.
I'm not even asking for something for these people.
I'm just like, I'm going to the FBI Monday.
I'm going to the FBI.
I'm going to the FBI.
You're like, well, the FBI's corrupt.
No, no.
I'm going to take them all the stuff.
I'm going to the FBI.
Here, Pat.
Go on to the FBI.
dan friesen
And the FBI, the people who are all involved in this, aren't they the ones who are pulling the strings?
And Alex actually realizes that.
You can hear it a little bit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He realizes that in his narrative, the FBI is the one who's setting him up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's like, yeah, I'm going to go and bring them to this information and be like, I gotcha.
jordan holmes
Oh, wow.
dan friesen
So that's what he's going to do.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
I'll do it.
dan friesen
I find this difficult to believe unless it implies a real deeper familiarity with illegality.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because if you are somebody who's a Boy Scout and doesn't do any crimes, and then you record your CRO trying to solicit you to commit a crime, and you tell your lawyers about this, and then nobody does anything until...
You have to make a big dramatic live stream about how you're going to get shut down.
And then you bring all this stuff up.
I feel like you would probably deal with this through proper channels unless you're like, I'm going to sit on this.
Because there's a lot of crimes going around for a lot of people.
jordan holmes
I've never been in a large criminal disorganization before.
But I imagine if everybody's doing crimes, you keep a little back.
Keep a little back in case you need a little bit to show up later.
dan friesen
A little crimey for me.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That didn't work as well as I hoped.
jordan holmes
I'm not just going to throw out crimes because then they're going to point out some of my crimes and then we've got to do that.
So it's mutually assured destruction crime.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex is pissed off at Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's shooting shots.
He's talking straight to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also he wants to go on Twitter and go on Spaces and talk to the people.
And so, of course, this leads to him.
Spending a fair amount of time talking about how great Elon Musk is, because of course.
unidentified
Yeah.
harrison smith
Well, and part of what I don't like about the nitpicking about Donald Trump or Elon Musk...
Is we've been through some crap because of what we've done.
And then to have people on our side go...
alex jones
Yeah, let's attack the enemies that are out in the open.
Don't attack people that are giving us fucking attack mode.
Fucking bomb the enemy.
Elon Musk has opened us up to scorch their ass.
And we're going to sit around and say, he could have done this better.
Bullshit, man.
Bullshit.
He ain't censoring me.
I'm fucking annihilating the enemy right now.
And I'll take that window to drop these bombs any day.
harrison smith
Because when people are inspired by Elon Musk, they need to know, hey, it's going to be a tough road, they're going to attack me, but hey, at least the people have my back.
At least people that see what's going on know what I'm standing up for.
alex jones
And what does Elon say?
He says the Globals are going to kill everybody.
Their plan, they think they're going to kill all of us, they won't get killed?
Elon's like, this ain't working.
For him, it's a very pragmatic statement.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think, didn't Alex have, like...
Proof that he was being shadow banned the whole time that he was back on Twitter?
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
None of this matters.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
But here's the thing.
I think Alex very clearly understands that he needs this lifeline.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he is running out of money, Twitter's free-ish.
I guess if he wants that checkmark he's got to pay or whatever.
Maybe he has an arrangement.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he needs that.
that's a way that he can get his voice out there in a way that he can't if he's off all these radio stations and if Bandot Video goes away and all of this.
So, hmm.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing about Harrison Smith and Owen Troyer.
When you've got Alex in this mood, if you match his energy, you could send him to the fucking moon.
You know?
Like, if it was him and I was just vibing back with him, just like, yeah, these motherfuckers are out of control, he'd be throwing the N-word around in, like, five seconds.
That would be so dangerous.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, their job is to try and keep his energy to a manageable minimum.
dan friesen
They appear to be hanging their heads for a fair amount of this, and I don't think they're praying.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would not want to be associated.
dan friesen
There's a little bit of, like...
jordan holmes
I would be shocked.
dan friesen
At times, they chime in and say, like...
Oh, it's been so great working here and stuff like that.
But yeah, there seems to be a little bit of shame.
So Nick Sortor is back.
He's on the Twitter space.
He apparently went to dinner with Mario Nafal and Alex the night before.
So presumably he would have been told about Alex's revelations.
jordan holmes
He knows the timeline.
dan friesen
But he, I don't think he does.
Uh-oh.
They bring up, they were at dinner, and there's no conversation.
jordan holmes
So Alex had drinks?
dan friesen
You told me last night.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, Alex had drinks and didn't go on a massive rant about this?
dan friesen
I'm not saying it's impossible that all of this can't all be true.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
It is just a little strange.
nick sortor
And one of the questions that we're getting a lot, Alex, is what does being shut down look like?
You know, because some of these people have been listening to you for years.
And they're afraid that they're not going to be able to hear your voice anymore.
Just to sum it up, generally speaking, what does it look like to be shut down, and how do you overcome that?
alex jones
Well, I've tried to save Infowars, so I've made myself not think about that and try to just save this.
But now that we're so down to the wire...
We just get bigger.
As many interviews as I want to do.
I have a new employer.
They can't stop the First Amendment still.
It's still there.
We try to bring the crew back.
I haven't even worried about all that.
But, I mean, I've been a little Machiavellian about it.
I'll be honest.
I'll say strategy here on air.
I mean, I could easily go, instead of hiking two miles every morning, hike five miles every morning, lift weights, lose like 30 pounds in a few months.
Disappear for a while, create total hysteria, which I wouldn't give up, but I would just kind of take a pause, like putting the, you know, the executor starship in the dock, retool it, and then come roaring back, or I would, knowing me, I'll probably immediately do all the interviews and immediately just go on a rampage and immediately go set something else up.
But I haven't, I haven't, it's kind of like, I don't cheat on my wife, but if she died, I would probably find another woman to get remarried.
So it's kind of like...
This woman dies, which I'm trying to save her.
I'm at the hospital with her, holding her hand.
Then if she's dead, I'll bury her next week and I'll go get another woman next week.
Because I need a woman.
That's what I do.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's strange.
jordan holmes
Sure.
If that metaphor is what you want to be on air for the rest of your life.
Then sure.
dan friesen
You love to hear that as a spouse.
unidentified
I mean, you know, I don't even...
dan friesen
I'd grieve you for a week, but then I need a new woman.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not even the literalization of the metaphor.
It's like, if that's what you want to say...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
Fine.
jordan holmes
You think about it, maybe next time.
dan friesen
I think that what he wants to say, if I were to clean this up a little bit, it would be that I'm not going to be too precious about this, and I'll move on from Infowars once it's dead.
jordan holmes
I'm not a griever.
dan friesen
I have feelings for it, and I love it until it's gone, but when it's gone, I need to move on.
That's fine when it's a business.
Sure.
It's not good when you compare that to your spouse.
jordan holmes
I mean, you could have just said, like, I'm always kind of moving forward.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Could have.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So instead of moving forward, we look back.
jordan holmes
Smart.
dan friesen
And Harrison and Owen and Alex, the Knights of the Infowars Roundtable.
Oh, God.
Come on.
unidentified
God damn it.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Harrison is Gawain.
So they are thinking about the good old days.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Back when they were huge.
Back when they were the biggest thing on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And they were like the Michael Jordans of bullshit.
And they had to take them out.
harrison smith
That was a crazy time.
We were still on YouTube and we'd be walking down the street.
In Austin, Texas, filming a live video, running into people, watching the live video on their phone, looking up and going, hey, I'm watching you guys right now.
I mean, we were everywhere.
It was amazing.
It had to kick us off.
alex jones
It was $35 million a day conservative.
harrison smith
It was incredible.
alex jones
Like, not derivatives, not like clips.
Like, 35 million a day on the show.
owen shroyer
It was...
alex jones
Biggest show ever.
owen shroyer
Oh, it was number one.
alex jones
Which is great, because we've won the fucking Indy 500.
We've been number one, which it wasn't about.
But the truth was key.
But then it was taken out of the race.
It's like, we know we'll win the race.
So I've already won.
It's like, you know...
owen shroyer
That's a great analogy.
I can't remember.
I mean, it was...
The Alex Jones show was 100,000 a day on the live stream.
Easy.
I could upload any video we did, million views, overnight.
alex jones
You're really watering this down, Owen.
You had videos with 50 million views.
So did Paul Watson.
He had one with, like, 100 million views.
jacob chansley
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean, it was ridiculous.
Like, I'm like, oh, there's 50 million, 20 million, 30 million.
I couldn't even keep track of them every day.
owen shroyer
It's like, you know, there's the rumors that, oh, you know, the NBA made Michael Jordan retire or whatever.
I don't believe that.
But that's kind of like, I mean, we were forced out of the game.
It was like, we were too good.
We were the perennial champs, so they just said, you gotta...
alex jones
I mean, you exposed AIDS Skrillex to them.
owen shroyer
In fact, we're uploading that to my X account probably tonight or tomorrow.
We're going to upload the entire full AIDS Skrillex original exchange, hundreds of millions of views.
alex jones
And again, we're not trying to brag, folks, but people want freedom.
So we've already, like Muhammad Ali to everybody, we've already, you know, literally, it's insane.
It's like...
So it doesn't feel bad when you're taking out a game because you just win too much.
dan friesen
You win too much.
I was too good.
I was the Michael Jordan of bullshit on YouTube.
I was so good and they made me stop and then I made Space Jam.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
I mean, isn't it a conspiracy that he was gambling too much on the NBA?
dan friesen
I have not looked into it too deeply, but that's what I remember here.
jordan holmes
Or just gambling too much.
I mean, he's still a gambler.
The guy is obsessed with competing and winning shit.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Alex was gambling on YouTube views.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The man's insane, which I'm...
dan friesen
Now, here's something that's interesting that is behind the things that they're saying.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If you really listen to what Owen is putting forward, it's kind of like...
Man, it used to be so fucking easy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I just put out videos of me yelling at somebody at a rally and we'd get 50 fucking million views.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is interesting in a sense because when you listen to people who have truly made an impact throughout their lives and their careers to the point where they have influenced an entire genre, you know, like everyone who follows has an influence of them.
That kind of thing.
If you're doing a certain type of music, you are influenced by Prince.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But these guys suck, and they still did it, which is wild.
They were terrible, but now everybody has to admit that there is an owing something to Infowars.
dan friesen
There is a legacy of influence.
Yeah.
But, well...
Maybe not Owen.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's a little bit, it's a little bit like, it's the Mendoza line.
Mendoza, love him or hate him, he is going to live forever.
dan friesen
He's just good enough.
jordan holmes
He's just good enough, yep.
dan friesen
So this is a family show.
We know that, because Alex has said it a bunch of times before he starts swearing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Talking about people pissing on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, it might surprise you to learn that he was supposed to be hanging out with his family on Saturday.
And he canceled that to do this.
alex jones
The reason we're here on Saturday night, your family's here.
Chase's family's here.
We've all got family.
My wife's like, we were supposed to go out to the park today and go eat dinner.
This could be the final show.
I mean, literally yesterday they were going to padlock the doors.
Then they gave the orders again today, and their own people wouldn't follow them.
So I'll try to come back tomorrow at 4 p.m.
I don't know, but it's kind of like, wow, this place is special.
By the way, when this show's over, we should walk around and shoot a video of the tour and just talk about the history for five minutes because this should be our lifetime.
unidentified
You should.
alex jones
I mean, I've got to, like, get my family books out of here.
owen shroyer
I'll probably do that.
Actually, I'm probably going to do that in 20 minutes is what I'm going to do.
That's what I'm saying.
alex jones
I feel like, because I've got, like, books I had on as a kid here, I've got to get my stuff out, man.
There's a good chance this place ain't here.
And they're like, oh, yeah, all right, this is a fucking stunt.
I don't pull stunts, man.
I pull revolutions.
dan friesen
Okay?
alex jones
Another boo.
I don't fucking lie to you, okay?
Chase Kaiser, I see it nodding your head.
What do you want to say?
chase geiser
Well, I was just nodding my head because I was agreeing with what you said, and I've been here for a year.
I've been listening to you, Alex, since 2021.
Basically after January 6th, I started listening to InfoWars because I lost all faith in traditional media.
dan friesen
You sound cool.
I think that I don't pull stunts, I pull revolutions.
It's right up there with Stone Buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
I think they're equally quotable.
I think the Eddie one's better.
jordan holmes
Still building's better to the fucking ground, Eddie.
It's just too good.
It's too good.
dan friesen
It came out right.
I don't pull stunts, I pull revolutions.
jordan holmes
It did come out like he had...
It was both a genuine thing...
That came off the top of his head, but also was like, yeah, man, that's something you've been thinking about.
dan friesen
And he always fucking says, I don't know how this is going to end, but if you want a war, you better believe you got one.
And it's so fucking annoying when you hear it.
And this is something that isn't the normal catchphrase.
Maybe I overappreciate that.
jordan holmes
No, you like it.
You like variety.
You're a novelty guy.
dan friesen
Sure.
That's why I don't like this.
Steve Bannon is on.
alex jones
Steve, you sent me a message.
I appreciate you reaching out.
Yeah, they tried to lock the building up last night.
I literally confronted the security that's part of my company and said, the law says this, you have to have an order.
They're trying to even shut it down tonight.
And I see this all as the desperation of the deep state.
Of what's going on.
We're a solvent company.
We have plenty of money.
We're in a federal court separately, who the court appointed is trying to shut us down right now.
Steve, you're a really smart guy.
You're under a massive attack yourself.
You don't make a big deal about it.
But, I mean, I just see this as an indicator of the enemy has launched the major assault.
We're seeing it everywhere.
The conviction of Trump, the show trial, was their charge call.
And I think you probably agree with me, but the people you know, this is it.
It's going down right now.
michael flynn
I think Drew was 100% correct.
I mean, look at the role you played in 2016.
steve bannon
The deep state absolutely knows the power of InfoWars, the power of your team, the power of you personally as a personal example.
michael flynn
So it doesn't surprise me at all.
unidentified
They just moved on President Trump, and, you know, they're going to try to imprison President Trump.
steve bannon
Or at least put him under house arrest or he can't campaign.
michael flynn
So now they're just going to knock down.
unidentified
I mean, to them, this is the last scene in Godfather 1. They're going to move on everybody.
dan friesen
How are you supposed to hear this if you're listening to this as an audience member?
The shit's going down.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
This is it.
jordan holmes
They've been telling me that it's going to start whenever blank happens.
dan friesen
At a time, eventually.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'll know.
jordan holmes
You have to admit that if you are telling me that there will be a time.
dan friesen
This is that time.
jordan holmes
Then that time is this time.
dan friesen
You have Steve Bannon on your show.
Who's a giant figure in this world.
jordan holmes
The end of Godfather what?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a little bit like, can you please start shooting?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's about as close to the only way we're going to keep all of our stuff as if we basically run the entire fucking world.
dan friesen
And we're only going to get there through terrorism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Bannon has an interesting idea, and that is that everybody should surround the InfoWars building.
And I think that this is because they want another standoff.
They want something like the Bundy Ranch or Ruby Ridge or something like that.
jordan holmes
And give it six months before they start throwing around like, you know, the Taliban did win in the end.
You know, the Taliban won.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, you've got to give it up to the Taliban.
dan friesen
That's going to be the name of Steve's next quote.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe it.
alex jones
They could literally lock this up the next few days.
What is your advice to Infowars and our crew?
You say you'll send crew out here?
steve bannon
If you can't move to go someplace and do a pirate version of this, then let's get people down there and surround the building.
unidentified
Make them come through a chain of patriots.
Get people inside.
alex jones
That's what I'm going to do.
Our location's been somewhat secret, but I agree with you.
We need to surround the building and just make a big issue out of this.
And expose them.
jordan holmes
Say, hey, get your lawyers down there.
jacob chansley
Get your comms people down there.
alex jones
Let's get the TV cameras.
These are cockroaches.
michael flynn
They can't.
You put the cameras on them.
unidentified
Good stuff.
What are they going to do?
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
unidentified
You have a chain of people outside to defend Alex Jones peacefully.
alex jones
What are they going to do?
Put the cameras on them.
Expose them.
michael flynn
Let's see who they are.
unidentified
Let's see what agencies they're coming from, what their orders are, and who gave them.
dan friesen
They want some kind of flare-up.
They want to create a scenario that could easily get out of hand.
But I don't think anyone's going to do that.
This isn't an airhead situation.
jordan holmes
What, are they going to circle up and start singing, we shall overcome?
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Now, I will say.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I don't think I'm going to do this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But I have been thinking about, should I go to Austin?
Should I go surround the building?
jordan holmes
I mean, listen.
Why, if...
If they're going to change the locks, no reason we shouldn't get a key.
dan friesen
The answer isn't immediately no to whether I should go.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And that sucks.
jordan holmes
That does suck.
dan friesen
That really sucks.
jordan holmes
That does suck.
dan friesen
So, Bannon is on.
He mentioned Drew.
That was Drew Hernandez, the baby reporter.
He called in.
And this is just a fascinating situation where we're just getting guests.
Guests are coming in.
alex jones
Thank you, Steve Bannon.
As soon as we said we were going to challenge them, they backed off.
They tried it again.
The security company that's separate, but they think they're taking orders, said, no, we're not going to do it.
I mean, we are, and I've got tapes.
I've got it all.
It's so insane, folks.
This is the takeover of the Republic.
This is a live coup.
We've got Matt Bracken, who's a retired Navy SEAL, best-selling author, who's on with us.
dan friesen
Best-selling?
alex jones
Let me tell you, this will be the last show.
I'm not here.
Hyping that, folks.
I'm sleeping here at the office.
This is so horrible.
Because I know it's not about me.
It's about America.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And I can't believe that we've got to this point.
These communist pieces of shit are shitting all over our country.
But we're going to win this thing, folks.
But let me tell you, the full assault has begun.
Matt Bracken, you want to give us a comment?
unidentified
I've been just...
matt bracken
I can't stop listening for the last couple hours.
alex jones
I'm just like...
unidentified
I'm so glad that this connection is still open and Daria...
Click me in.
dan friesen
So, this is the first of the crying attempts that we will see in this episode.
Also, Matt Bracken is not somebody that I've seen around InfoWars in quite a while.
He may have been on an episode I missed, but he's become real scarce since people started pointing out that he literally advocated for storming the Capitol on January 6th on InfoWars a week prior to the insurrection.
jordan holmes
Right, remember when we talked about that.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Matt has been a little bit less prominent in his appearances.
That'll happen.
Alex having Matt Bracken on is an intentional choice here.
He's hoping that Matt says some incendiary shit, because Alex is really hoping that someone does something he can call a false flag in the near future.
If it's just smooth sailing with no big attack before the election, that's kind of bad for Alex's business.
So he needs to try and ramp up the possibility of that, all while giving frequent lip service to nonviolence and only wanting to kill his enemies politically.
This is the game here.
He's bringing Matt in because he knows he has the potential for this.
jordan holmes
I mean, the best thing that could possibly happen for Alex is that one of his supporters kills somebody outside of his studio, and then Alex can claim that was a false flag engineered by the court, and then regardless of what happens with the rest of the thing, that's what Alex gets to hang his hat on for forever.
dan friesen
That would be good for him, and then the other thing that would be good for him is if they stormed him while he was on the show, which is also what he's hoping happens here.
jordan holmes
That would also be great.
dan friesen
But this is two hours now into the second stream.
Oh boy.
Mark's the first fake crying of the night, but certainly not the last.
This is a mess.
So Matt Bracken's on.
He doesn't say anything all that inflammatory.
But Alex is trying to get him to be like, there's going to be false flags, right, Matt?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Of course.
But then we get another guest who is clearly more important than Matt Bracken.
alex jones
It's an epic moment.
I want to come back to you.
I want to come back to Matt Bracken, best-selling author, former Navy SEAL, great patriot in a moment.
But Roger Stone heard about what's happening.
I told him probably what was going on.
They literally were going to padlock the thing last night.
And I noticed extra security of people acting weird.
And I said...
It was obvious to feel it.
The security guys are nice guys.
I know them.
They're looking at me weird and really conflicting.
I called my lawyers and said, let's go on.
They're shutting you down tonight at 7 o 'clock.
They're making their move out of desperation.
The coup is live, Roger Stone.
What do you think is happening?
roger stone
Alex, I guess in the larger sense, I'm not surprised at all.
dan friesen
Yeah, me neither.
So clearly there's a pecking order, and Matt Bracken is no Roger Stone.
Roger, you get bumped for, uh, you get bumped back in.
jordan holmes
Ah, that's fair.
That's a legacy.
dan friesen
He's trotting out all the stars tonight like it's a fucking wake.
jordan holmes
It does feel like, uh, it does feel like a, uh, this is your life episode.
dan friesen
Conspicuous in their absence.
I don't want anyone to think that they're going to show up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
First of all, Larry Nichols is dead.
jordan holmes
That is definitely true.
dan friesen
Don the Grand Prix, dead.
jordan holmes
Dead.
dan friesen
Leo Zagami doesn't show up.
jordan holmes
No.
Old man house phone?
dan friesen
In the wind.
Probably dead.
Steve Pachanik doesn't show up.
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
Rogan doesn't show up.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
There are quite a few people.
unidentified
Tucker?
dan friesen
Nope.
He's mentioned a few times.
Oh, here's the person who's most conspicuous in their absence.
Fake fucking Elon Musk!
jordan holmes
Oh, that is a good point.
He's on Twitter Spaces.
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
He doesn't show up on Alex's final stream.
jordan holmes
Maybe Adrian's gotten kind of tired of being fake Elon Musk.
dan friesen
I would be.
So you also might notice in that last clip that Alex's story slightly changed.
That's because he's making all this shit up.
Now, apparently, the story is that he saw extra security, and this led him to call his lawyer, which is how he found out that they were shutting down InfoWars.
But earlier, he said that he saw a normal security guard acting weird, so he baited the information that they...
They were bringing in more security that night out of him, which Alex then asked his lawyer about, sort of, that's one of the versions.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There isn't consistency here because this is a shoddily thrown together stage show, and Alex is just trying to figure out the best exit for himself in terms of info, probably because he does not have money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All he wanted to do here is be taken off.
Yeah.
That would have been perfect.
That's the highest hope that he has for anything.
jordan holmes
Lock the doors.
dan friesen
It would have been the stuff of legend if he would have been able to be broadcasting on air for his own destruction.
jordan holmes
To be pulled out by like six fucking...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, and essentially he's talking about like British police officers from the 40s, you know, with the hats just...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
100%, yes.
dan friesen
That has not happened.
But Alex does have another guest.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I noticed that Alex is hiccuping quite a bit.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
jordan holmes
He's in his cups?
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
alex jones
If you will.
I'm Luger.
I'm going to come right back to you.
General Flynn, former head of defense intelligence, former top national security advisor, got in the space.
I don't know if he's ready.
Ready yet, but yeah, it's a real canary in the coal mine that they are.
I'm literally physically here and literally had to tell people coming to lock the doors without court orders to shut us down that they were going to go to jail.
I'm literally physically here, slept three hours last night, in this building.
I'm not putting on a big act here.
General Flynn, what do you think is happening?
michael flynn
Yeah, so number one, Alex, God bless you for doing everything that you've been doing.
I want everybody to understand that we really have to stop thinking conventionally.
I mean, these people, this is a communist takeover.
dan friesen
We might need to think about terrorism.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is.
unidentified
Just fucking say you want to be terrorists.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
It's pretty wild.
I mean, we got General Flynn, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is essentially these people saying, listen, we're not sure if terrorism will work.
But we are sure that openly advocating for terrorism will not work.
But we would like to see If terrorism might work.
dan friesen
And we're going to do a whole lot of this predicting false flags in advance just in case someone does do it so our movement will be able to exploit that tragedy in a way that is still productive to us and doesn't derail things like Oklahoma City did.
And so we're just trying to be cool about that.
jordan holmes
If you were listening to me in the past, you would know that the present is a shooting war.
So don't listen to me in the present while I tell you that we should do things peacefully.
Listen to me in the past.
dan friesen
Listen to Flynn.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
So, yeah, now Alex is saying that he had to physically confront people who were coming to put locks on the doors, which must have happened in between the two streams.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate the physical confrontation.
dan friesen
Right?
Because that has to have been...
jordan holmes
There's no other time.
dan friesen
It wasn't the night before.
Nope.
That's strange.
Also strange is that General Flynn is like, I thought Trump would be guilty, like, on a few charges.
I didn't think 34. That's pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
What?
michael flynn
Assume that they would only find him guilty on a couple of counts, right?
You know, but when they came back with 34 counts, I was like, oh my god, these people, they're even far more serious than even I could imagine.
But believe me, again, I want people to understand, the big picture was...
Eight years of Obama, eight years of Hillary Clinton, and we wouldn't be having X spaces talks, okay?
But Donald J. Trump got in the way in 2016, and he beat the odds.
He ran the tables, beat the odds.
alex jones
Exactly.
So the American start over general, this is so important.
You're on record, it's true.
The whole game changed with Trump.
He backed him up seven, eight years.
And now the world's waking up.
So what do we do to stop this?
Because, again, I'm not into myself.
I don't care.
But I get a canary coal mine.
They are literally trying to put padlocks on the doors right now.
I had to physically explain to people with guns that they didn't have an order to stop them.
Like, this happened today.
michael flynn
Well, I will tell you something, that as soon as I heard about this...
Alex, I sent a note to Ken Paxton in Texas, because I think Ken Paxton's a decent person.
jordan holmes
You've done a bunch of crimes.
michael flynn
You guys in Texas ought to go jump on top of this shit, and don't let these federal thugs come into the state of Texas and do something without at least the Attorney General being informed about what the hell they're doing.
dan friesen
So General Flynn is enlisting Ken Paxton to help Alex with a fight he's having with his CRO.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And Alex had to confront people who had guns who were trying to put a lock on the door in between these two streams while he was clearly drinking.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's a more fun...
Like, I imagine that Orson Welles, when the people started getting their first few phone calls, it was like, oh, this is kind of fun.
This whole War of the Worlds thing, people thinking, oh, aliens really attack it.
This is kind of fun.
It's more fun to live a story.
It's true.
So I imagine Alex has a lot of that, like, man, this is way more fun than reality.
unidentified
But it is.
dan friesen
It's what we've seen him do a lot with these kinds of ways that you live in a story.
It evolves, and you get more confident with each retelling, and there's more details, and all of this stuff.
It's because it's folklore.
It's oral tradition.
jordan holmes
And depending on the listener...
There is an amount of magic involved.
For each listener, there is a different level of magic that will be accepted.
Roger Stone does not hear that Alex psychically...
Sussed out that this was going to happen.
Roger Stone here is a more accurate telling.
Not the accurate telling.
Not an accurate telling.
dan friesen
General Flynn probably gives a little bit more lip service to the magic.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
You can tell General Flynn a little bit more magic.
dan friesen
Steve Pachanik would tell you to fuck yourself.
jordan holmes
He would not allow any magic inexplicably while giving you something that can only happen through magic.
dan friesen
He would condescendingly tell you some shit about how he- Alex, you're a moron for thinking this!
I founded the state of Italy.
What?
jordan holmes
I went back in time.
dan friesen
I knew Romulus' brother quite well, because that person is me!
That seems within his range.
jordan holmes
That one's great.
That one's great.
That one goes right next to the stone buildings burned down, Eddie.
dan friesen
So, Flynn leaves.
All of these guest appearances are...
Not that good, and they do feel like showing off a star in a telephone or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But after Flynn leaves, Alex seems a little weird.
alex jones
That's the former head of defense intelligence, the former top national security advisor, the guy that ran the whole army, the guys like the Grim Reaper, literally telling you what's going on right now.
And that's why I'm so proud to be here, folks, and not to bow when they tried to shut this down last night.
It's bigger than us.
We are here in an existential attack on America and the world.
And we are not bowing.
I'm so alive.
Owen, it's so good to know you.
Harrison, it's so good to know you.
Chase Geyser, so good to know you.
All the rest of the crew.
You guys are like, literally, I feel like you're me.
Like when I think about the shedding now, it's like my arm's being chopped off, my leg's being chopped off.
It's not like some kiss your ass.
I literally think of you as me.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
If I was playing a clip earlier in the day, vehemently denying being an alcoholic.
dan friesen
And arguing about how your CRO called you drunk.
jordan holmes
Yep.
I would definitely not show up on air later drunk.
dan friesen
Well, I mean.
jordan holmes
That's just me.
dan friesen
I guess there's some plausible deniability.
Maybe.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex goes to piss.
jordan holmes
Smart.
dan friesen
And while he's gone, Harrison complains about Ken Paxton.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
And then Alex storms back in.
harrison smith
Yeah, no, it's utterly pathetic.
I was saying that same thing about Ken Paxton in particular, because he was one that on Twitter said this was a show trial, or I don't know his exact words, but it was basically saying this was totally false, this is a criminal activity.
And it's like, okay, if you really think that, then...
What are you going to do about it?
alex jones
Here's the bottom line, folks.
You ain't going to get nothing in life off kissing ass.
And we're in a full war here, and you think I want to release the fucking audio I've got of the creepy-ass liberal fucking fed?
Yes.
Oh, I got the fucking audio.
Why don't we steal some money together?
I didn't want to fight with these people.
I tried to just move on from it.
At a certain point, you've got to say, it's worse to bow down to this.
Then to go along with it.
dan friesen
Okay.
Alright, man.
So, you already played some surreptitiously recorded audio of this guy.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
You haven't played the second one.
I guess he's decided he's not going to do that.
He's going to take it to the FBI on Monday, which is a direct contradiction of what he said he was going to do.
jordan holmes
Does sound obvious.
dan friesen
Kind of makes me feel like maybe that is a little embellished.
Because I don't feel like the call even really lived up to his explanation.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
No.
Oh.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex, I think he's a mess.
jordan holmes
I think he's got this one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think he's got this one in the bag.
This is a confident man.
dan friesen
Remember how I said that he landed the plane smoothly on the first stream?
jordan holmes
I mean, I just don't understand.
It's an addiction.
He's an alcoholic.
dan friesen
Don't put that in a court filing.
unidentified
I won't.
I won't.
jordan holmes
Make his dad angry.
dan friesen
So Alex wants Owen to tell the story of the attempted shutdown and the locks on the...
Sure.
Because he asks him a number of times, because I think he wants another perspective on it.
Like, it's not just me saying this.
And Owen doesn't quite do what he wants.
alex jones
And for those that don't know, why don't you recap?
You guys have heard me describe it.
How would you describe what happened to M4 for 24 hours?
owen shroyer
Well, I would just, just to kind of finish up on what we're talking about here, you can't give in because you see what's coming.
If you give in to this system thinking, well, this is the easy way out, or it's too hard to fight back, or I don't want to risk whatever it is, well, you don't understand.
You become a total slave.
alex jones
Now, the New World Order drops his dick in your face and says, do it.
I'm telling you guys, we barely...
I don't want to stay here tonight.
I want to go home to my kids and my wife.
I've got to stay here.
They literally tried to shut it down yesterday.
That's where everybody's tuned in.
And today, and I get we have this disease where we only cover outside attacks, which is a good disease.
That's how I am.
But now it's like we're down to the wire.
I've got to tell you what's happening with us.
Like, do you guys understand?
Like, they have literally tried to order the shutdown of this.
dan friesen
I never talk about my own troubles.
I never focus preoccupations with my own petty dramas.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay, man.
jordan holmes
Maybe it's just a testament to how, you know, I suppose weak I am at controlling my emotions.
This is a me thing.
I don't understand how Harrison Smith and Owen can do it.
I just don't know how they can do it for this long without going, seriously, man, this is bullshit!
dan friesen
Keen awareness of unemployability.
jordan holmes
True.
That's probably got to be it.
dan friesen
That's a big, big part of it.
jordan holmes
I mean, I am also unemployable.
dan friesen
Right.
But the salary that they get is probably egregious.
unidentified
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
That is true.
unidentified
I'm unemployable on donations only.
dan friesen
So they're trying to take Alex off the air.
Again, I think that they is the CRO in concert with the FBI and maybe the CIA and everybody.
jordan holmes
You name it.
dan friesen
But they're trying to take him off air so he doesn't play this clip of McGill that he's already said he's not going to play and he's going to take to the FBI.
jordan holmes
But that's why they're going to take him off air.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I got this big animal that's really bad.
I'm trying to constrain, and they keep messing with me to make me release it.
harrison smith
It's like, we don't want to fight because we know we're going to win.
We don't want to put you people through that.
They really don't know.
alex jones
They're demanding it, though.
They're demanding it.
They've got to be run over.
Okay, well, you've got to get what you want, Tim.
I've got everything right here.
And the dumbasses think, shut the show down so he doesn't release it.
You dumb bastards.
They released a thousand places.
I'm Alex Jones, you dumbass.
This is so stupid.
Because they want to imagine they've got the power.
dan friesen
Or you're imagining their motives.
Or you could just play it now.
harrison smith
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're on.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're live.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
You have as large of an audience watching live as you probably ever will because people are tweeting about how you're drunk on air.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And how you're saying that InfoWars is going to go out of business, so a lot of people are like, ooh, this is going to be bad.
jordan holmes
Ah, and it is!
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so why not take the opportunity of the most people live watching this to play the evidence that they don't want you to play.
They're willing to shut you down to stop you from playing this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's just...
It's in his head, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's...
This is bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is bad.
Go home, dude!
dan friesen
No, you can't.
He's got to stay.
jordan holmes
No!
Okay.
Go home.
I know.
For a fact.
You've got a home studio.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And I think they've got another studio, don't they?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's where Owen's sleeping.
jordan holmes
Let him take the big one.
Go downsize a bit.
You'll be fine.
dan friesen
Honestly, I think Chase Geyser is the one who I think would sleep there.
Of the three nights, I think Chase Geyser is the most committed.
unidentified
I don't know if Chase Geyser goes anywhere.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've never seen...
Oh, no, that's not true.
I've seen him on location.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Not in person, but I've seen videos.
jordan holmes
So they do let him out of the basement.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Jay Dyer comes on Twitter Spaces to thank Alex for having him on.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
His big brand is that he reads books.
unidentified
Good for him.
dan friesen
The globalist books.
jordan holmes
I was trying to read books for a while.
Didn't go well.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't usually go great for him either.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And this leads to Alex doing another fake cry.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
unidentified
And again, I think you're going to emerge out of this much stronger.
Like you said, I hate it for the people involved in Infowars.
jay dyer
I've been honored to be on that spot with you for the last four years, so I'm really appreciative of that.
alex jones
Well, I appreciate you.
It's so emotional because...
unidentified
Oof.
alex jones
We did so much good.
There's so many good people.
Now they're going to blow it all up?
I'm a pussy.
We've had 30 years here and so much, and to me it signifies what's about to happen.
It's going to be so rough, Jay.
And it just makes me sick.
unidentified
It's that OKC model that you've been talking about.
When there was a rising populism at that time, they went to that OKC false flag model.
So I think that you're right about that warning.
alex jones
Speak to that, because it's not hard to predict.
dan friesen
Right, or the right-wing militias and stuff were growing at a rapid rate in the 90s, inspired by things like Ruby Ridge and Waco, and the flames were fanned by people like Alex and his ideological brethren, and came to a point where someone blew up a federal building.
Or it was that...
Nationalism and populism was ascendant and they had to false flag.
One of the two.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We'll never know.
dan friesen
Probably not.
So Owen is honored.
Also, it's really interesting to hear this cry thing at this point, eight years into doing this show.
I remember the first time I heard it and how I was really worried.
And now I just hear it and I'm like, alright, just get to the part where you're mad.
You're just doing this in order to weave into something angry.
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
We know the deal.
dan friesen
So Owen is honored to be able to be here on the last stand of Infowars.
They fucking want to be raided so bad.
jordan holmes
Go back to sports radio.
dan friesen
No.
He talks about that a little bit.
He's glad he made the transition into politics.
I think they are aimless without What do you got?
Nothing.
jordan holmes
I want to be rated unjustly.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But because they're not doing it, I'm going to commit a crime and thereby be rated.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Anyway, Owen is honored to be there.
owen shroyer
To make that commitment eight years ago and to be completely vindicated and to ride this epic ride with you till the end, it's truly an honor.
alex jones
It is.
And Vivian Kubrick, Stanley Kubrick's great daughter, sent me a link.
We were at the top of Twitter.
Top political trend is now.
Which is good.
Freedom is popular.
owen shroyer
And it's right where we belong.
It's right where we belong.
And that'll be their final motivation to come padlock this studio.
Because you did it.
alex jones
And that's why I wanted to just be here today.
I'm so glad you came.
unidentified
Because you did it.
alex jones
Because I just wanted to have a celebration of the great work we've done.
And them shutting us down won't be a victory, folks.
And believe me, I'm going to release all the stuff.
I got their ass.
But it's just, they're just desperate.
dan friesen
It's going to be disappointing if Alex doesn't release that stuff on this stream, and if he doesn't get raided.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
They've really set unrealistic expectations for how this is going to end.
jordan holmes
I mean, when you set it up so that shutting you down is a victory, it is also the only victory, because it's shutting you down.
You can't victory more after or before that.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's only that.
dan friesen
Now, I should tell you something about Owen.
jordan holmes
He's actually secretly an incredible broadcasting talent?
dan friesen
Nope.
For reasons that are unclear to me, he decided to live stream this as well.
Because I think that they thought that they were going to get interrupted and you'd have multiple angles of the end of InfoWars or something.
So he has a camera set up next to him that is facing.
You can see him and then in the background you see Alex sitting next to him and then Harrison Smith over there.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, this will become very important in a moment.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Because something definitely happens.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And we'll discuss that in a moment.
But for now, Alex is going to talk a little bit more about McGill.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This clip that he's not playing.
And then he gets really, really mad and swears a bunch.
alex jones
We've got it all happening right now.
And these idiots think, like, I don't want to burn these people.
I don't want to be an asshole.
unidentified
But I'm like, wait, you told me to just take money and hide it?
alex jones
Let me go to the bathroom.
I come back like, bloop.
It's like, I got your ass, dude.
Like, I don't want to burn you down, but you're going to make me burn you down.
You're watching right now, like, dude, I'm burning you down.
harrison smith
You're going to make me burn you down.
alex jones
It's like, whoa, you want a fucking war, you got one.
I'm not part of your fucking bullshit, fucking dick-sucking New World Order, dude.
Like, this is war.
This is the real world, dude.
This is real people.
Real people, man.
Like, I'm real.
Like, I'm real.
I'm right here.
You understand?
I'm out here playing down to you and I'm hearing me a pussy fucking raping the ass.
No, dude.
You fuck me.
You get a fucking war.
You understand how Alex Jones, like a fucking rhinoceros, is coming.
You got it?
So, that's where you are.
And now, the rhinoceros is coming.
So, play your fucking games.
Gaslight me all day.
You get war.
You get war and war and war and war and war and war a little more on top of the war.
In closing, let's go to some more spaces, people.
Let's do it, because we can be shut down tomorrow.
Oh, they'll have their big victory.
It'll be all over Bloomberg and AP.
Alex Jones's thing shut down.
Whatever bullshit store they have.
Fuck you.
owen shroyer
That'll be our victory.
alex jones
Oh, fuck you.
I'm telling you, like, war.
You want war, you got war.
Do it.
dan friesen
So if you listen to that, it sounded like there might have been an edit in there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And actually, I went and I watched the video, and there isn't.
Alex just switched gears from that, like, war and rhino shit into, like, let's go to calls.
jordan holmes
They just did?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's just shifting mood that quickly.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
Now.
jordan holmes
I can't believe somebody would call him an alcoholic.
It's brutal.
dan friesen
It's unbelievable.
unidentified
Awful.
dan friesen
So undignified.
So, on that note.
Yeah.
Owen's stream.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Now, I watched this on Alex's, and this is where I'm taking the...
This is the Infowars audio that I'm using.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
It came to my attention later that Owen did this stream.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And if you go watch it, there's some things you learn.
Now, I...
Couldn't watch the entire thing.
So I haven't watched all of Owen's thing.
But I did watch enough to see Alex smoking cigarettes in the studio.
Very clearly signaling for them to take the camera off him and then smoke a cigarette.
Talking while one of the guests is talking.
Someone else who's on the phone is talking and Alex is like, I got their asses.
And shit like that.
And at one point...
Alex is making horrible sounding noises.
Gurgling and like...
And then he pulls his shirt as if he can't breathe in his shirt.
Starts like sort of scratching his chest.
Appears to throw up in his mouth.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
And at this point, Owen turns the camera away from Alex, so it's only on himself, and you hear what appears to be Alex vomiting in the background.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So, I can't prove that Alex threw up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I can't do that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But what I can say is that there's a lot of circumstantial evidence.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They edit around it incredibly well.
And actually, in the Infowars version that comes out, you wouldn't even hear Alex coughing and gurgling and throwing up in his mouth.
These disgusting noises.
jordan holmes
I mean, what's crazy is maybe we have been underestimating this crew for a long time.
dan friesen
I think their editors might be good.
jordan holmes
Maybe they are fucking incredible and just the level of taxation upon them is such that they still make mistakes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's not mad at the crew, and he shouldn't be, because they're great.
jordan holmes
No, they're amazing!
dan friesen
Yeah, because I think if you watch just the InfoWars version, the one that's on band.video, you would not come away with a suspicion that Alex threw up in the middle of this.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
But, if you watch Owens...
jordan holmes
You know.
dan friesen
You're pretty convinced.
Now, here's where I came into a little bit of difficulty.
I didn't watch the whole thing on Owens thing, but I could tell that there's definitely, probably...
At least a few points where Alex says something pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I imagine there is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was not able to scour because it's four additional hours of time.
jordan holmes
Of the same thing.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like that would be incredibly brutal to watch.
jordan holmes
I would stop you if you tried.
dan friesen
Now, I was trying to, or I thought about, I don't want to sit here and tell you that Alex probably threw up on the show and not substantiate that.
Yeah, you couldn't do it.
It's only audio, and it's gross noises.
So I'm not playing that.
It's still on Owen's Twitter.
So if you want to go watch it, you can.
It's about at the 3 hour, 56 minute mark of the live stream that Owen posted.
And you can see Owen look so fucking sad.
He looks...
Like, what are we fucking doing?
jordan holmes
You should be!
dan friesen
Yeah, because I think Alex is drunk throwing up next to him while they pretend to be doing their last broadcast.
jordan holmes
Yes!
You should feel sad!
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
This is awful!
dan friesen
It really is.
jordan holmes
It is truly a, like...
dan friesen
It's up there with that stream he did where he was incapacitated with Paul Joseph Watson.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's up there in terms of, like, the, this is...
jordan holmes
You have an obligation as a human being to another human being to stop this.
And if you are...
If you are not doing that, then you're the problem.
dan friesen
And, you know what, I used to say that quite a bit, and I kind of still agree with it, but I think I've said my piece on that, and trying to have concern where it's not my place.
I will say, instead, what I'm focused on is pretending that this isn't the case and what's going on.
While you're trying to pretend, oh, we're staunch, very serious journalists.
We're the only people who ever tell the truth.
Go fuck yourself.
You're sitting next to Alex while he's smoking cigarettes and throwing up on air.
Get the fuck out of here with that pretense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not talking about his life, to be clear.
I'm talking about the show.
As a person, you would be like, let's just not have this on for the world to see.
We're all, listen, we're all fucked up.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Every one of, 100% of us have had fucked up days exactly like what Alex is going through.
The difference is, well, not exactly like that, but we've all had bad days.
But we didn't broadcast them to the world because we probably had a good friend who was like, hey, don't fucking broadcast this to the world.
dan friesen
If you had a really good friend or a competent CRO, you might land the plane from the first stream and be like, I went out classy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's the way to do it.
I don't need to try and get shut down live on air.
I don't need to do this.
We can let that stand.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But instead they do this and do four fucking hours of nonsense with a cavalcade of all stars.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
Speaking of all stars.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Weirdo, Pizzagate enthusiast Liz Cronkin is on.
Liz Kroken?
unidentified
Kroken?
jordan holmes
What's her name?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know the name.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
From the internet.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
I don't know what she does.
Yeah.
dan friesen
She's, I think, a Pizzagate weirdo.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I know that.
jordan holmes
Still?
dan friesen
Because that Pizzagate is in her Twitter bio.
jordan holmes
I will be goddamn.
dan friesen
And listen to what she says on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
unidentified
Hi.
How are you guys doing?
Can you hear me okay?
alex jones
Yeah, let's be here.
jordan holmes
I'm shit-faced.
unidentified
Okay.
Alex?
We need you to stay strong.
No more crying.
You are in very good company.
We have...
alex jones
Hold on.
My crying was real.
jordan holmes
It's a thing that someone says when they are really crying.
alex jones
It's real.
It wasn't a fake thing when I did that, so I can't help it.
unidentified
I know.
I know.
But you're in good company because there are a lot of people in this chat that have been persecuted, harassed.
Threatened, intimidated the same way that you have been.
I know that they have been messing with you for years.
I know that demon piece of shit, James Alifantis, has threatened you.
He did the same thing to me.
dan friesen
James Alifantis, of course, the guy who owns Common Ping Pong Pizza, where Pizzagate was still doing it.
It's pretty impressive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's been a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a long time to hold a grudge.
dan friesen
And I would refer everyone back to what you were saying earlier about the apologies that Alex issues when, like, James Oliphantus sued him.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And how you can just pretend, oh, he had to say that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I still believe that he believes the same things I do.
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
It's perfect.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, Liz comes and goes.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
Don't care.
jordan holmes
She needs to be gone.
dan friesen
Pizzagate weirdo.
Mm-hmm.
So we get another luminary.
Another huge guest.
jacob chansley
Now, I want to throw something out there.
dan friesen
Real quick.
I forgot that they didn't introduce him.
This is the Q Shaman.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
jacob chansley
As far as an idea of what we can do, every man, woman, and child in this country that is against tyranny.
I think I talked to you, Alex, about this on the interview that we did.
But I will just say it one more time.
Each and every single capital in the United States, like Washington, D.C., is built on electromagnetic ley lines.
And these ley lines have certain levels of spiritual power over our thoughts and our emotions.
And that's why they build these capitals on these ley lines and they try to pass law that affect our behavior, our thoughts, and our emotions.
I'm proposing like what I do every single Saturday.
Here in Phoenix is going down to our state and local capitals, assembling on the ley lines for prayer and meditation.
alex jones
So Jake, I know who you are.
We've had you on.
People should follow you.
It's great.
I know it's all true.
It's all that.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
alex jones
What is your view on what's currently happening with the assault on Trump, the assault on America, the New World Order?
We get the ley line stuff.
Give us your take on that.
dan friesen
Hey, hippie, you dumb fuck.
I don't care about that stuff.
Lay lines burn down, Eddie.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, I think part of the problem with what...
I mean, it's what we're talking about.
Like, just being able to...
You can just say it.
You can just say, I'm sorry.
You don't have to...
Like, the QAnon shaman guy wrote this long-ass letter for his sentencing, apologizing, taking responsibility, learning lessons, etc.
dan friesen
Now he has, like, an academy online.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, like...
Do you know why you can just lie?
Because we allow you to.
It's totally fine.
dan friesen
Free speech, baby.
jordan holmes
If we had a system that held people accountable for lying like that, like if QAnon Shaman shows up and then the court just goes, oh, well then all the things that I said because of this letter are now gone.
dan friesen
Time out.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Time out.
jordan holmes
Like that's consequences for being a lying piece of shit.
dan friesen
Time out.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Did anything in his letter say, I'm not going to pray and meditate at the ley lines that are under our state capitals?
Because maybe he's not contradicting his apology letter.
I have to admit, I've not read his whole apology letter.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
If this is the world all of you want to live in, I'll just go back to trial by combat by myself.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, Alex is probably thrown up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's decided he's staying in studio overnight.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And now he decides, I'm going home.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
You guys got any questions for him?
Are we going to next person?
jordan holmes
Is somebody going to drive him home?
alex jones
Next person.
All right, go to the next person.
All right.
Hey, I'm going to go home tonight.
I'm not going to stay here like last night.
I couldn't sleep good on that couch.
I got a big crack on my back.
And they shut us down.
It is.
We're here.
This is the last show.
I'm so glad we're here celebrating the history of InfoWars.
30 years on air.
And it's just, it's the enemy, it's gonna, God's gonna turn towards good.
owen shroyer
You'll be here tomorrow.
alex jones
You think so?
owen shroyer
I believe it, yeah.
God's gonna give you at least another day, for sure.
alex jones
Okay.
unidentified
Why?
alex jones
I hope you're right.
dan friesen
I hope you're right.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would God give him one more day?
dan friesen
Because there's always one more day, right?
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
Always, hope springs eternal.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
Listen, this is, this is a bad couch.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does feel like if you are going to declare war about all this shit, then you cannot be mad at a bad...
You can't have one bad night's sleep and be like, I'm out of here.
dan friesen
I declare war.
I'm going to take it to these evil New World Order Satanists.
I am committed 100%.
They will not shut this place down the second I leave this place.
They're going to put padlocks on the door.
I'm going home because that couch sucks.
jordan holmes
I'm reminded of one of Alex's favorite people, the person that he admires a great deal, George Washington.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And I'm reminded of Valley Forge, when it was really cold that first night, and they were like, fuck this.
dan friesen
Right, or at the Alamo.
jordan holmes
And now we're a British colony.
dan friesen
At the Alamo, Colonel Travis was like, that couch sucks.
jordan holmes
Bullshit!
I'm out!
dan friesen
This cot hurt my back.
jordan holmes
Honestly, guys, this isn't even our country.
dan friesen
So there's a fair amount of language, I'd say, throughout everything.
Probably the rest of this, there's a lot of swearing and Alex saying wild shit.
But here he fake cries a little bit more and then, of course, turns immediately into an outburst of anger.
owen shroyer
Trump is going to blow the lid off of the UFC event tonight.
That's going to be insane.
The whole arena is going to go crazy.
30,000 screaming people.
And then I think after that, the next big thing, then they'll probably padlock.
That's kind of how I feel that the shift is going to happen.
alex jones
Yeah, it's wild, man.
I love the crew.
I'll just say that.
I think the crew is like me.
That's my arm.
It's like, I love this guy.
I love this girl.
owen shroyer
Like decommissioning the Millennium Falcon.
alex jones
Yeah, it's like, oh, that's mine.
That's mine.
owen shroyer
But they get the Millennium Falcon back eventually, Alex.
alex jones
I'm so pissed off.
I'm trying to cry.
It's a fake thing.
I'm so sick of these people.
All we're trying to do is save America, and they're fucking us over, over and over again.
And it's just so sick.
It's sick.
It's sick.
And I don't want to leave.
I don't want to leave because it's going to be over, folks.
And I'll come back bigger than ever, but it's like my baby, and I'm watching them rape it because they're fucking assholes.
You fucking pussies, man.
I'm gonna release a fucking video.
I'm gonna release a fucking audio on you.
I'll get you, motherfucker.
You better fucking be sorry about that.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
owen shroyer
I don't know how you follow that.
alex jones
I'm just telling you, man.
I am not taking it lying down.
I don't know how to do it.
I'm not built to suck your dick.
I'm not built to...
I'm built for war, motherfucker.
And I will not fucking bow to you.
I will fuck.
Goddamn, you fucking assholes, man.
I'm a fucking son of a bitch.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Fucking assholes.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Who's up next?
dan friesen
Let's go to another call.
jordan holmes
God, coming up.
unidentified
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I mean, I'm always reluctant to say I feel for Owen.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But in that moment.
That's a tough situation.
jordan holmes
Bullshit!
That is an easy situation.
That is a tragically easy situation.
dan friesen
How do you play it?
jordan holmes
How do you follow that with, yeah!
The end.
dan friesen
Right, you antagonize.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
That's it.
That's all you have to do.
dan friesen
Now here's what's interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That was something that Owen failed to do.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
When Alex was having this moment.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He could have hit the ball back to him.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah!
dan friesen
But instead, he said, I can't follow that.
jordan holmes
I'm a quitter who sucks.
dan friesen
Right.
Now let's see what happens when Chase has a very similar opportunity.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
I'm completely cross-eyed, crazy, exhausted.
And I can't, I'm literally here like watching a family member die, like 30 years on air, 27 years of operation, 15 years of this building.
And I'm literally, when I know I leave tonight, they're going to shut us down.
Maybe it's tomorrow, the next day.
I just want people to know, I love you.
I believe in you.
I believe in humanity.
I believe in my grandparents.
I believe in my parents.
I believe in humanity.
unidentified
I just want to stop these people.
alex jones
They gotta be stopped.
We gotta stop them.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
At the end of the day, we're gonna beat these people.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
These people hate our children.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Hate them.
alex jones
Just take more calls.
We can't give up now.
We have to keep going.
We have to stay here.
We have to let them shut us down.
We have to stand all the way to the end, and we're going to win.
chase geiser
Jones, I think everybody needs a war cry, man.
Can you muster a war cry?
jordan holmes
See what I'm saying?
alex jones
It's a big joke.
jordan holmes
It's not really, though.
chase geiser
I mean, it is, but it isn't.
It's also inspiring.
alex jones
It's my resistance to them.
It's a God's transmission.
It's a human under attack.
unidentified
*Screaming*
jordan holmes
All right.
chase geiser
All right, let's go to one more secret.
Myron, what is on your mind?
dan friesen
Holy shit.
So that's not much better than what Owen did.
That had big energy of, like...
A washed-up comedian who's like, do your bit.
Do the thing that you did on that show.
jordan holmes
It's very Toady.
dan friesen
Yeah, very much like a, do the world cry, Alex.
jordan holmes
You could have, you had your moment to, like, pump him up.
dan friesen
But I think he thought that's what that was.
jordan holmes
I think he did too, but that's real sad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Especially Alex's response.
It's just a big joke.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it's somebody who doesn't believe in themselves.
dan friesen
I don't want to be your clown.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the feeling that comes through with Alex.
It's a big joke.
My dumb war cry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is a dumb war cry and you are a clown.
That is...
dan friesen
I can't argue with that.
jordan holmes
But...
That's what Chase is doing, though.
Chase is a believer.
No, Chase is a believer.
Chase is like, it's not a big joke.
dan friesen
I think Chase would like to be inspired by a war crime.
jordan holmes
He would.
He believes, and Alex is the only one there, and I assume Owen, that knows.
It's bullshit.
dan friesen
I think Harrison might, too.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but...
He's like, I'm a Nazi.
Who cares?
dan friesen
So Myron is on.
That was the next person.
He, I believe, I don't fully know.
I kind of know this tangentially.
I believe that he's one of the hosts of the Fresh and Fit podcast, which is a fairly big podcast.
Maybe a bit misogynistic type of dude stuff.
I don't know.
I haven't looked deeply into it, but I...
Generally don't hear great things.
jordan holmes
When dudes are doing dude shit, it's not good.
dan friesen
So he is like, we want to support you, Alex.
You know, we're going to do whatever we can.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is like, fuck it.
All right.
Here's what everybody needs to do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The assault is now.
The enemy is coming.
harrison smith
Cool.
alex jones
You understand?
It's here.
This is it.
Do you understand me?
It's not about me.
The enemy is coming.
We're the carrying the coal mine.
Go ahead and finish up.
I'm going to finish up.
dan friesen
No, man.
unidentified
I mean, whatever you guys need.
harrison smith
You guys need anything from Fresh or Fit, man.
unidentified
You tell me.
dan friesen
I'll tell you.
alex jones
I'll tell you.
InfoWars is overrun.
Supporting InfoWars store, it's done.
We're overtaken.
Maybe we fix it.
I'll tell you.
Day one, it's happened.
It's gone.
We're overrun.
Enemies all over us.
My dad said two years ago, he's smarter than I am.
He said, you're going to be shut down.
I'm starting a thing.
DrJonesNaturals.com is our sponsor of The Next Level.
We don't even need much money.
We've already got emergency stuff backed up.
We're going to continue on no matter what happens here.
But I need anyone that cares about what we're doing.
I can't even believe how epic this is.
Like, it's a no-brainer.
We have probably 5 million people watching right now.
Less than 1% will buy a goddamn tube of toothpaste or a...
Incredible products we've got.
Go to drjonesnaturals.com.
I'm not bitching.
I'm like, you want a revolution, man?
You want victory?
You want fucking war against fucking terrorists?
You fucking got people that are ready to fight, man.
I mean, I'm fucking completely war-driven against these people.
I fucking knocked my earpiece out.
I am completely...
Somebody come find my earpiece, put it in my ear.
I am completely war-driven.
dan friesen
Somebody put my earpiece back in.
alex jones
War!
dan friesen
It's a little bizarre.
But, I mean, this is really one of the main thrusts, I think, of Alex's priorities right now, which is stop giving money to Infowars.
I'm not going to get it.
Give it to my dad.
This is the way of the future.
Infowars is dead to me as a business entity.
So, fuck that shit.
Go to Dr. Jones Naturals.
And, I mean, I think this is a little aggressive.
I think it's a little bit angry.
I remember when I did stand-up, and I'm sure you've learned this lesson or been told this, that, like, never lash out at the audience that is there about the audience that isn't there.
Sure.
Never lash out at the people who are buying products by complaining about everybody else not buying fucking products.
jordan holmes
Doesn't make any sense.
They're the ones there to support you.
dan friesen
The only thing, you're not going to get those people.
You're not going to translate that into sales, probably.
jordan holmes
They're gone.
dan friesen
And you run the risk of alienating the people who are buying it.
It's not a good idea.
jordan holmes
Build your core audience.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think Alex is failing to do that.
Now, because who cares?
The ship's going down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that is such an interesting thing that's probably wrong, right?
Because we've done that.
Build the core audience.
Makes sense for us.
Strong.
Right?
But they build the weak audience and then make millions upon millions of dollars, you know?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So, like, some of them, it makes sense to do that stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It does make sense to be a whiny baby.
dan friesen
No, I think, I think, you know?
Yeah, I mean, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I think that Alex's model has clearly shown to be far more profitable.
jordan holmes
Ah, but now that we're in the totality of said model that has a beginning, middle, and end, we can very clearly see that, yes, the middle may be nice.
dan friesen
But there's this.
jordan holmes
There's this.
Yeah.
So, I'll stick with the way we do stuff.
dan friesen
You don't want to do this?
alex jones
I am totally...
I am totally fucking committed to our species.
I am totally fucking committed against Satanists.
I hate the New World Order.
With every ounce of my body, I don't support these people.
And all I'm saying is, will you support us in this fight?
That's why I will release all the video.
I will release all the shit on these fucking people that fucking think I'm gonna bow down to them and suck their fucking dick.
It ain't fucking happening.
They wanna fucking...
jordan holmes
Total war?
alex jones
You better believe they got one.
And I'm sorry for all the cussing, folks, but I am beyond bullshit level.
I'm beyond Mr. fucking nice guy shit.
That's all over now.
unidentified
Total war.
alex jones
Total war is what they want.
unidentified
Total war is what they get.
alex jones
So if you support what I'm doing, drjonesnaturals.com to support the tip of the spear and the fight for the human destiny in the future of the world.
And I'm done talking about it.
I appreciate you all.
You guys can go and take more calls.
I'm going to end this right now.
And I'm just, I'm fucking done.
I'm done.
I appreciate everybody.
You guys close the comments.
Go ahead.
owen shroyer
Well.
Every moment we have here at InfoWars shall not be taken for granted.
dan friesen
Very beautiful words.
Remember a little bit ago Alex was making fun of Flat Earth Dave?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So much more fun than this.
unidentified
Yep.
owen shroyer
This sucks.
dan friesen
He's so angry.
owen shroyer
Yeah.
dan friesen
Angry-ass plugging.
It's just annoying.
jordan holmes
I think that's why I'm far less concerned about any kind of coup or civil war or anything than anybody else.
It's just simply like...
At no point in time has any civil war ever been financed by drjonesnaturals.com.
dan friesen
No, I don't know if I agree with that.
jordan holmes
But more specifically, the leaders of said war...
Are not giving speeches that include multiple plugs.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
That's the issue.
Shay was never like, and also I've got a new line of clothing.
dan friesen
But do you know if there was some shit talker that history has forgotten who was around when Shay was around?
jordan holmes
I mean, Fidel was shit talking quite a bit.
dan friesen
Did he have a radio show with his dad's sponsor?
Or Raul?
Was Raul a sponsor on Fidel's show?
jordan holmes
Fucking hell.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
So Alex was just screaming some obscenities, and he seems to be really preoccupied with dick sucking.
Seems to be, you know...
jordan holmes
Eh, you know, that's what happened.
These guys, from where they're from...
dan friesen
A little bit of homophobia coming through, but whatever.
jordan holmes
I was raised with a lot of those guys, so I know those guys.
dan friesen
But it's coming to the surface in a way that it is not always there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That anger.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so you'd be surprised to learn who Alex believes his audience to be.
alex jones
The only audience I ever have is Scott.
I never talk to the audience.
I love the audience.
I love you guys, but I never talk to the audience.
I'm like in front of God every day on air.
I have one fucking viewer.
Scott.
jordan holmes
Nice.
alex jones
Does that make sense?
jordan holmes
Nice.
alex jones
No, finish your point.
I was interrupting.
owen shroyer
No, that's it.
That's the point.
They can decommission the Millennium Falcon.
alex jones
It's kind of weird to shut this down because I don't think we're going to be...
I think it's over.
Folks, two days, I'd have to live here to stop them.
I've had to literally convince...
Police and shit.
Not to shut us down.
They say, you don't have an order.
Like, don't do it.
Like, this is what's going on.
You guys are here.
Like, people don't know.
Like, this is...
I don't fucking hype you, man.
I would never lie to you in a minute.
This is going down.
dan friesen
We're designed to hype.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say...
dan friesen
How can you say we're not...
He's not hyping.
jordan holmes
This is rude.
This goes against everything.
dan friesen
He went to dinner with Mario Nafal the night before.
jordan holmes
Like, he didn't...
dan friesen
He hasn't been living at the studio for days.
He probably feels that way at this point.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this is ridiculous.
They want to be raided so bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Because now you're getting to the late hours of the stream.
You've run out of gas.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex is clearly on the other side of the drunk.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
Harrison don't want to be there?
jordan holmes
I mean, how could they possibly still be there?
He can't fire you anymore.
He doesn't even run his own business.
The chief resource officer is probably...
Well, I mean, actually, I'm surprised he hasn't fired Harrison Smith at least, right?
dan friesen
He's probably got something in the contract.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
So Alex had said, like, you guys take some calls, I'm fucking out of here.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He's done.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, he is.
He's literally done.
dan friesen
Except he's not.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
We've got to do 20 more minutes.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
alex jones
So finish up, Owen.
I can't shut down.
We're going in 20 minutes.
Because this is probably the last show ever.
I can feel it.
You see it.
They fucking are ready to come in.
It's just fucked up, man.
We're here right now.
Because I could easily shut down right now, Owen.
But when you drive away tonight, you're going to wish you said something.
What do you want to say about your life and your family and who you are?
And then Harrison Smith.
Let's just keep going.
Because they don't want this.
This is the final moments, man.
jordan holmes
Sure.
owen shroyer
Well, I guess every day you wake up, you ask yourself, is America worth fighting for?
Is freedom worth fighting for?
And if your answer is yes, then the rest follows.
I mean, that's it.
That's it.
That's why we do what we do here.
That's why the crew's here.
That's why you're here.
harrison smith
Yeah, I don't even know if I can...
alex jones
No, I mean, we're here at the end, brother.
Like, literally, we're the Alamo.
They're fucking, like, we're going down.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
So Owen thinks he's on a different show, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
He's trying to be a little bit serious.
What is happening?
And that's kind of sad.
But as we get towards the end, Alex keeps asking them for their final words.
jordan holmes
Closing thoughts.
dan friesen
No, but it's elevated to such a level because this is our last show ever.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
What are your final words, Owen?
jordan holmes
What is the last thing you have to do?
dan friesen
What do you regret not saying?
jordan holmes
Just bury us already.
Just go.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
We're at the Alamo.
We're going down, man.
jordan holmes
I don't know how you could do that.
Like, that's what I'm saying.
How could you be Owen and at four hours and blank or whatever it is, be like, well, if you care about America, then you, you know, like, make it fun for yourself.
You gotta make it fun, man.
dan friesen
Here's what I think.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I have nothing to back this up.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So please know that this is shit talking.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't watch a ton of Owen these days.
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
I watched a bit more of him in the past.
Right.
And in the past...
Especially in the early times that he was on Infowars, he was doing an Alex impression.
He was trying to be like Alex.
And I think that at some point he decided, I don't want to do that.
And so he's doing his own thing.
He's doing something a little bit different than just pretending to be Alex.
I don't know if it was the trial.
I don't know if it was him getting arrested because of January 6th.
unidentified
Could be.
dan friesen
I would say that a possibility is when Alex got drunk and didn't make his own speech at that event that Nick Fuentes ended up taking over.
jordan holmes
That'd be a good one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That was a night where Owen had to carry a lot of weight he didn't expect to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like there might have been some growth experiences through that, and being able to see...
Someone who's younger in Harrison.
Harrison is in the him role from when he started.
He sees this from the other side and realizes, I don't want to abuse this guy the way that...
jordan holmes
That's not usually the way of things.
Usually the way of things is he abuses him in exactly the same way.
dan friesen
I told you I have nothing to back this up.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
I'm talking shit.
jordan holmes
That's fair enough.
dan friesen
I'm imagining why he's not doing an Alex impression anymore.
jordan holmes
It is interesting.
I will say that.
dan friesen
Something happened.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I think it's probably good.
Because the Alex impression goes nowhere.
jordan holmes
I think what's funny about that is that when there are so many moments for a person to learn maybe a lesson that doesn't even need to be learned.
dan friesen
Right.
Anything could be a transformative moment.
jordan holmes
Anything could be a transformative moment.
dan friesen
There's like six or seven I can think of.
jordan holmes
There's a million of them.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex can't decide, should I stay or should I go?
jordan holmes
Go!
unidentified
Home!
dan friesen
He probably should go.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he can't because then the show's over forever.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
Even though I know we'll come back bigger, I can't play along with the lie that, oh, we'll just be bigger when it comes back.
This place means so much to me.
I just hope viewers take everything we said today and clip it and put it out.
I hope people make a big deal about it because this is epic.
This is the assault on your speech, what you believe.
In fact, we already said this, but you guys decide.
Are we in this right now or are we taking a few more people?
We just shut it down.
It's probably the last thing here.
Because we're here right now.
unidentified
Do we keep going or are we shutting down?
chase geiser
You're rodeo, Johns.
jordan holmes
That's a little joke.
Let's go home.
alex jones
I'm just saying.
jordan holmes
Alex, let's go home.
alex jones
50 fucking hours.
jordan holmes
I can't say it, no.
alex jones
I don't want to stop.
And so I know that it's, we're all, it's like we're shooting, like you said, the Alamo, the fucking parapet's the Alamo.
I just, I don't know what to say.
It's like, it's so insane.
dan friesen
So this is a mirror of that episode where Alex got really drunk, like, Years ago, the 2017 episode, the ways to learn, and the semen on the skull, the art piece.
jordan holmes
Truly a great one.
dan friesen
Now, that night, it was much later.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that night, Roger Stone was also there.
Interesting parallel.
But that night, Rob Dew was with him, and Rob clearly wanted to leave.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was a...
Let's end this.
I've got my coat on.
jordan holmes
Let's do this, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think that that is what Chase was...
I think he was hoping Alex would say, fuck it, we're going all night.
Because I think Chase is as much of a true believer as you think.
jordan holmes
Chase is a believer, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Chase is fucked, man.
Chase has got a lot of bad news coming his way in the future.
dan friesen
Now, here's what I kind of base that on, because I have some unfair information.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is, Chase is like...
We're rocking.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
But that thing is, I don't care about the scum.
They're like pieces of shit.
Like, I don't even want to stop them to death.
But they politically demand I do this.
So I'm just here at the fucking end of 30 years, and this operation, this whole crew, everything we're doing, and I see these idiots just don't even understand what's about to happen.
I just have trouble turning loose.
I'm going to be honest about it.
Chase, you want to end it right now?
chase geiser
I'm not going to be the one that ends this broadcast.
Let's go to fucking Muckraker.
Muckraker in spaces.
Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you got to say.
dan friesen
That sigh from Alex makes me think that he wanted Chase to end it.
jordan holmes
That is...
We were talking about this.
I was telling you about the World War II...
What is it?
Superior...
The thing where the commander would be pressured by his subordinates, not because of making a good decision or because of what they say, but because the commander doesn't want to look poor in front of the subordinate after all of this stuff.
So Alex literally cannot, in the face of Chase Geyser...
A true believer.
Go, honestly, I just want to go home, buddy.
dan friesen
Right.
Because this is the last show ever.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
This is the end of 30 years.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
We are doing a war against the CRO, apparently.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And so, yeah, of course, Alex can't.
But you know what he could have done?
Not gotten back on air.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It would have been totally fine.
jordan holmes
Would have been fine.
dan friesen
But now he's in a situation where he's been on air for like six, seven, eight hours or something.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Total, because we didn't even listen to the Bilderberg part.
jordan holmes
Exhausted.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Drunk.
dan friesen
Wants to go home because the couch sucks.
And yeah, he can't.
jordan holmes
Such a bad day.
dan friesen
But you need Chase to be the one to say, yeah, all right.
We've done enough here.
jordan holmes
Alex, it's time for you to go home and get a well-deserved rest.
That's what you want Chase to say.
dan friesen
I'll stay here for you.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
We'll keep the lights on or whatever it is.
You go home.
dan friesen
Chase is an ideologue.
He believes in the image of Alex.
He's like, no, you know what?
You want me...
To keep your feet to the fire.
So we're going to talk to Muckerman.
jordan holmes
I absolutely do not.
This is all a fucking joke.
Please don't make me do a war cry again.
dan friesen
I don't want to do another war cry.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So Owen has some sort of flowery language here at the beginning of this clip.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And then Alex is like, we can't end the show.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
And then they talk to someone with a dumb name.
owen shroyer
World peace, freedom, prosperity.
It's possible.
It's possible in this planet.
That's our dream.
That's our total dream is world peace.
Freedom and prosperity.
It is possible.
It is possible.
alex jones
Alright, so...
They've almost shut us down last night and a day.
When I tell viewers, this will be our last show, I feel really bad turning this off.
Okay?
And we'll take this and re-loop it, and they're gonna...
Whatever they're gonna do, they're gonna do.
It's part of their fucking thing.
But we should take a few more spaces, commenters, because I just can't turn loose right now.
I can't die yet.
So go ahead.
More people.
chase geiser
All right.
All right.
Let's go to Sovereign Bra.
Sovereign Bra, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you got to say.
dan friesen
Let's go to Sovereign Bra.
chase geiser
Sovereign Bra.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
What is he gonna have done to all of us?
dan friesen
That is the show.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's this show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It really is.
dan friesen
At the end of 30 years, Alex can't take responsibility for ending the fucking show, and so they talk to Sovereign Bra.
jordan holmes
Sovereign Bra.
That is...
dan friesen
I don't know how to explain it, but that is a perfect metaphor.
jordan holmes
It is.
It is a microcosm of a microcosm of a perfect representation of the whole.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's amazing.
It's like synecdoche, brah.
dan friesen
So then they talk.
jordan holmes
That would be a good joke for somebody.
dan friesen
Sure.
They talk to Maria Z, who's another reporter for InfoWars.
She's on the Spaces.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
She just says that you inspired me, Alex, and we are all the InfoWars.
Very nice thing.
And I think they decide, like, all right, we're going to...
jordan holmes
That's a good one to add on.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is our last call.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good one to add on.
dan friesen
She's an InfoWars employee.
She said something uplifting.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's something about the future.
jordan holmes
It's a good closer.
dan friesen
And so here...
Is the last clip.
jordan holmes
That's our return of the king this ending finally.
unidentified
This is beautiful.
dan friesen
It's a little dramatic.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And we're in an epic moment right now.
And I appreciate Owen.
And I appreciate Harrison.
I appreciate T. Schuyzer.
I appreciate you.
But yeah, this is it.
So I think we're going to end with you.
I really appreciate you, Maria Z. And we'll do as best as we can.
But this is quite a moment in history right now.
And this is the enemy coming in.
And we're just going to try the best job we can.
owen shroyer
Well, there's one thing I know about you, Alex.
And it was a few years back.
You were going through something, and you were into the Frank Sinatra song, I Did It My Way.
You played it on the air.
You did it your way.
Maybe we could even go with the more recent Fred Durst, It's My Way or The Highway.
It's been your way.
You've done it your way.
You did it your way.
And so that's what this is.
You did it your way.
This is you going out in your way.
And, you know, we were just playing that compilation there that the crew had up on the screen of some of your epic moments.
And so I would say, you know, maybe in these final hours, these final moments of InfoWars, let's have people put up their favorite compilations, their favorite Alex compilations, their favorite InfoWars videos.
Just flood the internet with everything that has been done here over the years.
Every victory we've had, all the fun we've had, all the seriousness.
alex jones
It's all God, Alex.
It's all God.
chase geiser
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Go to bed.
alex jones
It's all God.
But it's all up to us now that we continue on the fight.
And I just hope people will take this.
We should end with Frank Sinatra.
I did it my way, but I did it God's way.
I've literally fought these people from day one knowing I was right.
And it wasn't me.
It was all you.
But this is probably our last broadcast.
And you have these demons after us.
They're so pathetic.
But it's okay.
So just play the whole Frank Sinatra my way.
We hope we're back tomorrow.
We don't know we'll be back.
But we're under total attack.
It's okay.
I love you so much.
And I appreciate all the crew and all of you.
So let's just finish up right now.
unidentified
I've lived a life that's full.
I traveled each and every.
I could go for some Durst right now.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Fred Durst.
They play the whole song.
jordan holmes
Of course they do.
dan friesen
Nice little clips of Alex in younger days and triumphant moments.
Also, they sort of turn off the lights on the set.
jordan holmes
That's great.
That's good.
dan friesen
And Alex waves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good one.
dan friesen
It's a very dramatic moment.
It's very much like...
jordan holmes
Cheers?
dan friesen
Doesn't Rob Dew have a degree in theater?
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
I think he does.
I think that's what Alex has said.
If so, it came through.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he must have been directing this shit.
jordan holmes
It was well staged, yeah.
dan friesen
It feels like the best they could do.
In terms of the last moments of the show.
jordan holmes
Then I'm not mad at the crew.
dan friesen
I love you all.
I shouldn't have done this last four hours.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But we did it my way.
jordan holmes
We did.
dan friesen
You did.
You did it your way.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
It was absurd.
It was stupid.
There's probably going to be legal ramifications for what you said about the CRO.
jordan holmes
I hope there are.
dan friesen
It's your way.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, here's the problem.
Here's the problem with that.
Right?
Is that it wasn't.
It was not.
It is easy for us to romanticize.
That idea of, like, this is a man, you know, that in some ways lived according to his own code kind of thing.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
We want to believe that.
jordan holmes
This is not a man who lived according to his own code.
This is a man who is beset by any number of compulsions, addictions.
dan friesen
Metaphorical demons.
jordan holmes
Poor family and friends, enablers, all of this created a monster.
Not somebody who did it their way.
And affluence.
dan friesen
That also added to it.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I think that...
It was a major factor in a lot of that enabling.
jordan holmes
For any idea of, oh, this man was an iconoclast kind of thing, nip that shit in the bud right fucking mouth.
dan friesen
Well, maybe a little bit.
Maybe he's a little bit of an iconoclast, but not enough to deserve a Frank Sinatra exit.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
unidentified
I'll give you that one.
dan friesen
I think there's degrees.
jordan holmes
I'll give you that one.
dan friesen
Also, he did his show on Sunday.
jordan holmes
God, I hate this world so much.
unidentified
I hate it so fucking...
jordan holmes
Much.
unidentified
He was on air all day on Saturday doing this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Everything about this.
dan friesen
We're recording on Sunday, so I didn't watch the show, but I did check in to see if he was there, and he was.
He was doing his show on Sunday.
So they did not get padlocked.
jordan holmes
I, here's, okay.
I feel like all of you, all of you, but me, have a lot to take responsibility for.
dan friesen
I certainly do.
jordan holmes
For this whole fucking world functioning the way it does.
I mean, every time I say things, oh, this could be better, everybody goes, oh, Jordan, you're so stupid.
Let's see if we can't file a motion to keep this in federal court as opposed to state court, because I'm the idiot who believes stupid shit.
Fair.
dan friesen
I mean, look.
At the end of all of this, what a ride.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Unreal.
dan friesen
Can you believe that we started out with Trump's conviction?
jordan holmes
No.
Every part of this, I cannot believe.
dan friesen
But you can understand now why I kind of feel like, eh, Trump's conviction, not really that important.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter, even in the slightest.
dan friesen
Doesn't feel relevant.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Fucking probation.
Who cares?
Put him in jail or go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
Alex did our last show pageant.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
That's some shit right there.
dan friesen
Star-studded affair.
Complete mess.
And maybe threw up on air.
jordan holmes
Is it?
Okay.
It's hard to believe how quickly we have all just been like, whatever, that a former general is like, hey, we need to start shooting people on Infowars.
dan friesen
Well, he didn't say that.
jordan holmes
But he's a general.
He was a man who commanded people to shoot people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Thereby, I would say that everything he says has a somewhat...
dan friesen
There was a little...
There's a reading of it that goes that direction.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a general of the United States military!
dan friesen
Sure.
Two of Trump's former campaign managers were on.
Bannon and Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
Was Roger actually the official campaigner?
I think he was.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
But yeah, you have...
You have Bannon, Flynn, and Roger all on here.
It's fucking a mess.
jordan holmes
I mean, I feel like this all comes down to this, right?
I think once my way was overtaken by Fred Durst's version.
dan friesen
Right.
Or when they're equivalent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's whenever society just can't function.
It can't function like that.
dan friesen
Also, where was Paul?
jordan holmes
Where was Paul?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is he just better?
unidentified
Did he just go to rehab and now he's fine?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
He works at a pub.
He's a great guy.
dan friesen
I question whether he still hates SJWs.
jordan holmes
I mean, what if he did?
What if he just got a job as a bartender at a pub and just has a great life?
dan friesen
Where's Carpe Donctum?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
He is seizing something.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Where's the other guy?
Count Dankula.
unidentified
Count Dankula!
jordan holmes
Yeah, where are the other truly great historical figures in the accord?
unidentified
Where's Cernovich?
dan friesen
Where's...
jordan holmes
Where's the fucking Joker?
dan friesen
Where's Ye?
Come on.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
I do honestly think that disrespectful not to have Pachanik on...
I agree.
Disrespectful not to have...
Disrespectful on Rogan's part and Tucker's part to not come in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because if you're doing the last...
We're doing a telethon where they're going to board up the doors and everything.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You need all the star power you can get.
jordan holmes
True.
But I think if there are three people who know more intimately than anyone else on this planet, besides us, that Alex was going to be on air Sunday, I would be shocked.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll be back.
With maybe Alex is closed?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe on Sunday he has big news about how he had to get bolt cutters and break through a lock.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
That'd be great.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Maybe we're really pirate radioing this at this point.
dan friesen
We're gonna find out, but...
This was exhausting and kind of felt like old times a little bit.
jordan holmes
You said at the beginning this felt like you were up late till 4.30 feeling like the beginning, feeling like old times?
dan friesen
Also, that stream had a lot of the mirrors of the 2017 stream.
There's so much of that that it kind of maybe triggered something and it felt like nostalgia.
jordan holmes
Here's how sad it was.
When you were talking about Owen, and you were like, oh, he's smoking cigarettes and drinking.
I was like, man, we used to smoke cigarettes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Owen wasn't.
Owen had the camera.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I know.
Alex was.
I was thinking, like, it almost makes me feel like that was okay.
It was not.
dan friesen
But, yeah, we didn't hide that we did.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, we didn't.
dan friesen
And Alex is hiding that he was smoking.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I actually know this from old emails that were turned over in the lawsuit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They used to have all the old show logs.
Every episode would have logs.
And a few of them got caught up in these emails.
And so if you look at them, one of the things that is sometimes called out is, like, you need to cut away from this when you post this because Alex is smoking.
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
dan friesen
So it goes back years and years and years of this, like, just don't show it.
jordan holmes
I'm just not mad at the crew.
dan friesen
Which on some level, it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Impressive editing.
And then second, I guess, if it's...
You know, the alternative is give the message to the homeschool children that watch this for school.
I guess, maybe hide it.
unidentified
Don't smoke.
jordan holmes
I hide it.
I'm fine with that.
Oh, they didn't showcase Obama smoking the President of the United States Address or whatever.
The Speaker of the...
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wow.
State of the Union.
dan friesen
It's been long.
jordan holmes
It has been a long episode.
dan friesen
Let's wrap this up.
Let's go to some spaces.
jordan holmes
I want to do 20 minutes more, honestly.
Let's go to some spaces.
Can we get a bottle of wine and just really figure this out tonight?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, we'll be back.
But until then, we have whips.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgeright.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also not on social media.
jordan holmes
We are not on social media.
dan friesen
We will be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX.
Clark, I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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