Knowledge Fight - #930: May 30-June 1, 2024

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#930: May 30-June 1, 2024

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Alex Jones’ May 30–June 1, 2024, episode spirals into chaotic theatrics after Trump’s conviction, blaming "jury instructions" while mocking Flat Earther Eddie Bravo and his own financial panic. He claims Patrick McGill, InfoWars’ CRO, demanded $25K to avoid a shutdown, alleging drunk calls and embezzlement—though recordings contradict his framing. Desperate, Jones pivots to promoting Dr. JonesNaturals.com, swearing through apocalyptic rants about "Satanists" and the "New World Order," while forcing exhausted co-hosts into a staged farewell. The episode reveals a man clinging to conspiracy-driven spectacle over substance, using fabricated crises to rally supporters and deflect blame, all while possibly sabotaging his own platform’s future. [Automatically generated summary]
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Participants

Main

alex jones

infowars 01:06:33

dan friesen

01:24:37

jordan holmes

50:37

Appearances

chase geiser

infowars 01:14

david weiss

01:25

eddie bravo

00:36

harrison smith

infowars 01:14

jacob chansley

00:51

liz crokin

00:36

michael flynn

r 01:10

owen shroyer

winn 03:26

steve bannon

r 01:05

Clips

matt bracken

00:19

nick sortor

00:18

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Speaker	Time	Text
Rafa's Comeback at the French Open 00:03:09
unidentified		Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledgeparty.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's time to pray.
unidentified		I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
unidentified		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, Shang, we are the bad guys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Dan and Jordan.
unidentified		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I need money.
unidentified		Rattler and Rattler.
unidentified		Riddler.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy and Kansas.
		Andy and Kandy.
		Stop it.
		Andy and Kansas.
		Andy in Kansas.
unidentified		Andy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's time to pray.
		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the airplane for all of us.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a fish pin colour.
		Saying I love your room.
		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledgefight.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome to Acknowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You go first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot is going to continue to be the French Open, my friend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going along nicely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is going, you know what?
		It's such a great tournament this year.
		And it is obvious.
		You know, like, everybody is playing their as hard as they possibly can.
		Sure.
		They're hearts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're doing it for Rafa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they're doing it because Rafa's not there.
		Like, that's what's fun about it.
		I mean, it is like, when you think about it, for most of these people's entire lives, almost two decades, almost two full decades.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was unbeatable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The best you could do was get your ass kicked by if you had the best French Open of your fucking life.
		It would wind up with you getting your ass absolutely embarrassed by Rafa on that claim.
		Absolutely.
		And now everybody's like, man, I might actually win this fucking thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So is Varev still in it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You are saying these are your favorites.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Survived a long five-set match, almost lost.
		Jokovich, five sets, almost lost.
		Like, it has been a fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is an interesting thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody is fighting their asses off.
		It's great.
		It's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm happy for you, and that's thrilling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's fantastic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll crown a new winner.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the goal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unless horrible things happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone gets injured, Rafa comes back in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be an interesting pro-wrestling move as if he descends from this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd hear Jim Ross.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
unidentified		It's Rafa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Rafa.
		Dressed like Sting.
		Right.
		Sliding down the crow making.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
		I think I could do that.
		Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No time for bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		None.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit achieved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		That's my bright spot.
		There's no time for bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No time for bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't mean to make it sound like tennis is bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got no time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've got no time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		None.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a weekend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess my bright spot is that I bought patriotic frosted sugar cookies to get me through what was going on this weekend.
Trump Conviction Fallout 00:03:06
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Timing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Timing is the issue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we recorded our last episode on Thursday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And as soon as we finished recording, we realized that Trump had been convicted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Immediately out of date.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And immediately felt like, oh, what the fuck?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you knew when we were coming around to do an episode for Monday, got to cover Alex's response to the Trump conviction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Obviously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So obviously, we're going to be covering the 30th March Friday's episode.
		Right.
		Thursday and Friday.
		Sure.
		Excuse me.
		Then everything went to shit.
		This weekend was insane.
		Alex was on air almost all day on Saturday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		And so I needed those patriotic cookies to get me through.
		And man, this episode's a mess.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's my bright spot.
		All right.
		This episode is a mess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a mess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have more clips than I would like.
		Uh-oh.
		Shit goes so wild, it doesn't even matter that Trump got convicted by the end of this story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What you think is going to be the most important thing in the world is just like, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not even very interesting at this point.
		Okay.
		So we'll get down to business on all of this.
		But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So first, Master Galen, thank you for believing in this weird little guy's medieval dreams.
		I'm proud to be your man-at-arms.
		Love you, buddy.
		Thank you so much.
		You're an out policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Evil Jordan be like saying hi to some new wonks is a terrible idea.
		Thank you so much, you're an out policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Tristan B. and Audrey say sorry for the English were French.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we had a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan.
		So thank you so much to at Church of GTA.
		You are now a technocrat.
		And Sarah is on a little breakie for now, but Tojo hopes she gets better soon.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified		Four stars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go honking money and telling you it's brilliant.
		Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
		Daddy Sharp.
		Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
		He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
		I don't want to hate black people.
		I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I'm rushing through things a little bit.
		Yeah.
		And I need to remind myself to take a breath and slow down.
		But I feel like Alex in front of all the stacks of paper.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got a lot of people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So much to get through.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm remembering various things that are going to come up.
		And I'm like, there's just no way.
		There's no way.
		All right.
		So here's a little out-of-context drop from today's episode.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm serious, folks.
		This is like so fucked up.
		I mean, it's just so fucked up.
Preemptive Conviction Rhetoric 00:05:10
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just like such a fucking people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		Well, you told me before the show to buckle up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have double buckled.
		Yep.
		Now I know we're in full fucked up territory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's so fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These fucking dog people up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to start here on the 30th, on May 30th.
		And obviously, Trump was convicted later in the day.
		Sure.
		So Alex is on air before the conviction happens.
		But everyone's pretty sure he's going to be convicted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He committed crimes.
		Yeah.
		What are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so there isn't like a lot of delusion or anything or trying to pretend that's not going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're in like excuse-making time.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, May 20th, 2024.
		The New York jury and the historic show trial asked to have the instructions read to them again.
		They were confused.
		So was the whole world.
		And the judge reissued in the same way.
		You don't have to find unanimously he committed a crime.
		You can all pick different crimes and just say he's a criminal.
		Top lawyers, both liberal and conservative, have chimed in.
		They say that's completely illegal and absolutely unprecedented in English common law, in U.S. law.
		It is unbelievable.
		He's not putting his thumb on the scale.
		He's putting his tyrannical fat ass on it.
		And President Trump has come out and just destroyed it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just destroyed that shit.
		So this is one of the big Trump world talking points in the lead up to the end of the trial.
		In a situation like the one they were facing, it's always in your best interest to prepare narratives for the worst case scenario.
		In this instance, Trump being convicted.
		What Alex and his ilk have done is to create in advance a justification for why Trump got convicted, which actually works just fine if Trump is found not guilty.
		He was convicted because of unprecedented jury instructions.
		That works just as well as they tried everything to get Trump, including unprecedented jury instructions, and none of it worked.
		This is a common genre of narrative for Alex to promote these days because there's no downside.
		It has the same vibe as the preemptive election stealing rhetoric in that you build up a storyline as to why you could possibly lose while being fully compatible with a possible future where you win.
		Alex is drawn to narratives like this because what he's doing is a game, and these narratives are cheap and easy.
		In terms of reality, what Alex is saying is not true.
		He's exploiting a little patch of vagueness in this case because he's a liar and he just spouts whatever the Trump line is for the day.
		Interestingly, the New York Times published an article on May 30th, this same day, saying that this particular line, that the judge had told the jurors that they, quote, could individually choose from a menu of different crimes to find the former president guilty, so long as the total of votes added up to 12.
		They said that this started with a tweet posted by Fox News anchor John Roberts.
		Alex had been putting out this talking point for at least a day or two at this point.
		So Roberts likely got it from Infowars or from some shared source, which is probably a more obscure Twitter account.
		The explanation for this is that Judge Marchand instructed the jury that for each of the 34 felony counts, they would need to reach a unanimous decision to convict.
		The crime charged was falsifying business records in the first degree, which requires that the person accused be falsifying those records with the quote intent to commit another crime or aid or conceal the commission thereof.
		Right.
		This is directly from the judge's instructions given to the jury.
		Quote, the people allege that the other crime the defendant intended to commit, aid or conceal, is a violation of New York election law, section 17-152.
		Section 17-152 of the New York election law provides that any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of conspiracy to promote or prevent an election.
jacob chansley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The instructions go on: quote, although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were.
		So that is the vagueness and the area where they're like, oh, you just pick whatever crime you want.
		It's a bunch of nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For God's sakes.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, something like that was going to happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something like that was going to be glommed onto and turned into like the reason why the system got him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is the conservative ideology, the leadership, everything about it is built around that kid who would always find some excuse for why you, even though you wanted Foursquare, actually you lost and he wanted Foursquare.
		Something like that.
		You know, like it's just, it's the whiny kid who's going to, you're a loser.
		You're going to be a loser forever, but you win because nobody wants to fucking beat the shit out of you or you have to go home.
Whisperings Of Violence 00:15:44
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like it's, it's just, that's what it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's all of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If that kid's the president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it is, it is like that's what you're hanging your head on.
		The judge gave bad instructions.
		That's what you've got.
		Well, not like we won the game.
		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, it'll be overturned.
		Because this is so obvious.
		It is a little loser-ish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Loser shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex obviously has Chase Geyser in to do some spaces and to take some calls on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because you got to chase his space.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got to talk about the Trump conviction with the people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I say they should call him Chases now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it'd be a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think Chase gets some branding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Chase Space.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He needs to keep his job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is interesting.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When we get to the end of this episode, we'll loop back to your thoughts on this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's going to keep their jobs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Chase is hearing some stuff, some chatter from people in his immediate orbit that is a little bit disconcerting.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		You know what alarms me the most about all of this is I have people that are very close to me that I trust, longtime friends, 10 years.
		And in these various chat groups that I'm in, I hear whisperings and murmurings.
		And I see it online too, where people are having very rowdy ideas about what they think should be done in the event of a false conviction.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if you look back on that, that's the real theory.
		They're turning the temperature up, as Klaus Schwab said, Angrier World, hoping people get pissed.
		So that is the genius of the evil.
		You just nailed it.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that's it.
		And I'm concerned about that.
		I think there's a lot of things, obviously, that can be done before we turn to violence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Violence is not the answer.
		We're winning culturally.
		They're going to have to stage stuff and blame us.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		No violence.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		They want to provoke us to act irrationally because then they can bring the hammer down harder than ever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, look how they provocate her January 6th.
chase geiser ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has got a bunch of friends who are clearly talking about violence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say there are whisperings and murmurings that you're hearing about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Aren't you just listening to your friends say we should kill people?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Alex is saying, no, And also, that's fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		Right, right.
		You don't know those people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Globalists want you to think that your friends are saying, let's kill people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they're not because they don't exist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, those whisperings are not real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So there's not a whole lot actually to cover about this.
		Sure.
		The response isn't really like that much of an outburst.
		There's not really all that interesting stuff going on.
		It's just a lot of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, everybody knows he did it.
unidentified		He did this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, right?
		Like, we wasted all of everybody's time.
		We all know he did this stuff.
		It's not about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot of like, hey, the jury instructions, the judge, they're going to get an appeal.
unidentified		I get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump's going to win.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get what we're all doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just a lot of the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get what we have to do.
		But I mean, it did feel like we should just get to the point where they go, are you going to put him in jail or not?
		Because if you give him like six months probation and a $100,000 fine, you have wasted everybody's time more immensely than I can imagine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're going to get to that point in a month, I think, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's when the, uh, Oh my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This legal system needs to stop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It needs to be stopped.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has a guest on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has Darren Beattie, who is the guy who is the – he was a Trump advisor and he got fired.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he was one of the people in the January 6th debate with Glenn Greenwald.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was the guy who sounded like he was twirling his pants.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was that guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's on, and he's kind of like, I think we're doing great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would have expected things to be way worse, honestly, right now.
		And I think Trump's going to win, and everything is going great.
		Alex is trying to be a little bit more doom-ish.
		Sure.
		And Darren's not really playing along all that well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The money's in the doom, but I think Darren's probably got a good position.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These guys are both like, hey, if Trump gets convicted, it'd probably be good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It'd probably be good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, which is fucked up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's really the paradox here.
		Like, if I was a Democrat being evil, they would just have him found not guilty and move on and forget it.
		But instead, I think it's better for Trump that gets convicted.
		I mean, that's what I think.
unidentified		Yeah.
michael flynn ▲ ● ▼		I think so, too.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everybody got what they wanted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Folks wanted, people who didn't like Trump wanted him to get convicted because he's guilty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And these people wanted him to get convicted because it's better for their shit, better for Trump can use it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, we were texting.
		You were a little jealous that I didn't know anything about what was going on.
		And I told you because I've been off the internet.
		I've been kind of committed to staying off the internet, getting my news through books.
		Man, this is a waste of time.
		That is so infuriating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so infuriating that we couldn't just skip past the shit where you whined for fucking months.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want him to get convicted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Years.
		You do too, Alex.
		God damn it.
		Can't we just skip?
		Is everybody just bored?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is so much, I think, similar to like, in reality, they wanted Hillary to win.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, they wanted the thing that the other side wanted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the insane person to kill people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you don't want your weird demagogue, fucked up idiot to actually be in charge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want him to be not in charge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, 2020 is much better for them, him getting screwed out of the presidency or whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So much better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that Alex is like, yeah, getting convicted is way fucking better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what should have happened in 2020 should have happened in 2016.
		And then they wouldn't have all lost their minds.
		Because it happened in 2020 after they had already flown their flag upside down, metaphorically speaking, with the election of Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Then they lost their minds.
		And then after 2020 happened, they couldn't control themselves.
		Then they all get sued.
		All that stuff horrible happened.
		If it happens in 2016, they're like, ah, oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think a slimmer group, a slimmer margin of the population loses their mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there is still, I think, I still think we got a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Our minds are not great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I just decided that fuck, I don't care.
		We have to move on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotta go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're jumping to the 31st now.
		Okay.
		We're jumping to Friday.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I thought I was going to be able to give this episode short shrift, too.
		Okay.
		Because of Saturday.
		Because Alex is, like I said, he's on air pretty much the whole day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The whole day.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But unfortunately, this episode needed to be covered.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're doing 800 clips.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not since Endgame.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not going to be nine hours, but there is a part of me that is worried.
		So we start off on the 31st.
		And most of this show is about Alex being like, shit, there's going to be false flags.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Trump got convicted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We need to really lay some groundwork here about how there's going to be false flags.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The show trial verdict has completely blown up in the Democrat deep state's fish.
		But everybody getting so excited needs to listen to me and listen real good.
		I've been telling you for years.
		They're going to stage big false flag attacks in the lead up to the election and blame Trump supporters.
		And I came out while the verdict was still being read and I said, you watch, they're going to go call the internet and anonymous posters and say, look, the Republicans are getting ready to start shooting and killing Democrats.
		J6 2.0 is here.
		And if you don't think the feds aren't planning another J6 or another Whitmer kidnapping type deal they got caught in, you aren't paying attention.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before the conviction even happened, Chase was telling Alex about how his friends were talking like this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't the people scraping the internet to try and find random Trump supporters talking about violence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what Alex is trying to present because I think on some level he knows that the temperature is high.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that some of the people who are in his side of the fence might be interested in doing some violence, like Chase's friends.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, I want to, I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and say that I think they're talking shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think they're talking a big game because I think these are the people who are complaining about judges' instructions to a jury.
		I don't think these people have it in them.
		I don't think they have the guts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, we hope there's always a fear, you know, there's always like a possibility and a potential because things do happen.
		And, you know, there are people who do carry out violence.
		And that is, that is awful.
		And Alex is preparing for that to be able to deny it.
		Sure.
		He's sending out the message that if people, you know, maybe do some stuff, we're going to pretend it's a false flag.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, but it's so weird for that to be squarely on Alex's side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, nobody's like, oh, the left is gearing up for what could happen if they, you know, like I said, if he gets six months probation, it's like, yeah, that should be, people should, comparatively speaking, if we live there, people should be like, oh, the left is going to go crazy over this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's saying that too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your liberal moms are going to be like, ooh, yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It should be that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is predicting it in every direction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Trump is going to win despite cheating.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's bad news.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		World War III is still probably happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then I don't need to worry about Trump so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then you also got to worry about Soros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If everybody wants to get so excited and happy, and oh, it's backfiring, and the numbers already show it.
		And Trump is going to win in a landslide despite the fraud.
		You can override that with a massive landslide.
		The numbers are clear.
		But Tucker Carlson nailed it.
		He said, anyone supporting this verdict and anyone not supporting President Trump is an enemy of America and your family.
		And you're in danger of World War III and total enslavement in a dictatorship.
		Now, that's what's going on.
		We are already under a coup.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was just on Eric Bowling's show talking about this with him this morning.
		I think it airs tonight.
		It's going down.
		Soros is just the CIA front.
		When you hear Soros, it's CIA, has gotten control of almost all the cities and populous counties and towns, over a thousand of them.
		They've got 18 of the state attorney generals totally on his payroll, trained by him and his special college he has.
		They're fellows of the Soros group.
		A couple others are semi.
		But 18's the number.
		They've got over a thousand DAs and county attorneys.
		They've got a lot of the police chiefs.
		The ADL does the training of the Southern Property Law Center.
		And they're not just defunding the police and releasing violent criminals to destabilize things.
		That's a small part of the equation.
		It's then the persecution of populists and conservatives and nationalists.
		And just right down the line, if you're a victim and you're white, you don't get any support.
		If you're a black criminal or Hispanic criminal, they let you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so that's what you meant by populist, conservative, and nationalists.
		Okay, I got you.
		I thought that was what you were saying.
		That's what you're saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is nice of him to remind us all that populist, conservative, and nationalist are white.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what he's coding in the way that he's speaking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, fun fact, Eric Bowling maybe got fired, maybe left Newsmax right after this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had Alex on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think it was today's Sunday.
		Yeah.
		It was yesterday.
		So I believe that he got the axe or left Newsmax.
		I'm not sure exactly the circumstances of that.
		Sure.
		Also, Eric Bowling is the guy who used to be one of the hosts of Fox's The Five, who wanted to fight Alex on a random street corner in New York that we covered on one of our tour episodes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They patched that up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		Why?
		Why can't they just fight it out?
		Why?
		You know what?
		That's it.
		I will accept no conservative ideology until it is Thunderdome approved.
		If you guys want to fight, fuck you.
		Fight.
		All right?
		Thunderdome.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, they want to make peace and then leave Newsmax.
		No!
		So there's going to be a lot of terror attacks.
		There's going to be a lot of false flags.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems easier to find out that they're a false flag if you have a lot of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's going to be like a hundred of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but usually you want to keep it like low.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So the fewer, again, the fewer number of people involved in any given thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be like the biggest group.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So not one person is going to reveal that these are false flags from this massive hundreds of people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be the widest conspiracy you've ever seen in your life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So of 115 planned false flags, not one of those guys is going to get like cold feet and be like, I don't think I want to be a suicide bomber today.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, probably not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're in the third quarter and we are seven points ahead.
		And we have the ball at the 50-yard line in its first tarot.
		But in the fourth quarter that we're now entering, in the next 15 days, and then the craziness that comes after that, ahead of the inauguration, the 79 Days of Hell Part 2.
		I told you hell was coming.
		Oh, 79 Days of Hell predicting all that.
		In the lead up, and they could detonate a bomb tomorrow.
		They could truck bomb next week.
		They could shoot up a black college or attack a black grocery store or a black church or a string of synagogues.
		The globalists have got mentally ill people wound up ready that when they get the green light, they'll activate them to go carry out attacks.
		But those are usually not very well coordinated and aren't big enough.
		So I'm predicting that international crime syndicates working for the globalists are going to hit targets around the country.
		And I'm predicting it's going to be bigger in the aggregate than 9-11.
		I'm not saying the one of them will be bigger than 9-11.
		I'm saying I'm predicting hundreds of terror attacks are going to be conducted inside the United States and attributed to Trump supporters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All I hear there is just like, I'm really worried about what my friends are going to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is almost borderline like, hey, my friends are saying we should do this.
		But how about what if we get international crime syndicates involved?
		All right.
		Fellas, I know you want to like, oh, sure, a black synagogue, whatever.
		Blow one up.
		That's not big enough.
		We got to get the mafia in on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got to look at this from a leaderless splinter resistance kind of model.
Alex Doesn't Predict False Flags 00:00:56
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But with a Don.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, we can pretend that there's an international crime syndicate behind it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the way that we will evade having to take responsibility for the racist violence that we want to commit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's all I hear, basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex doesn't predict false flags much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At least not big stuff.
		And now we should smash cut to him saying, I don't predict this stuff very often frequently in the past.
		Yeah.
		But Alex says that he doesn't predict these kinds of things much.
		And then that leads him into a weird story.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've only done this a few other times.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like I said back in 2001, I said, call the White House and tell them we know they're going to fly buildings in the World Trade Center and blame it on their CIS at Bin Laden.
Attacks and Memories 00:05:53
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've seen the pre-programming, all the stuff that was going on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was obvious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a thing to add to your lore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you think I want to just sit there and give out the White House switchboard on my syndicated radio show and on my local TV show?
		And they got reportedly thousands of calls.
		You think I want to mess with the New World Order?
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'd already had them physically send people to attack me once before when the Clintons were in.
		Good thing I was young and still tough as hell because I beat the living hell out of those guys.
		They broke my nose and stuff.
		They're just hitting me in the side, the kidneys, and hit me in the head.
		It hit me pretty hard, but it just pissed me off, broke my nose.
		They stood back with a blood spraying out like it was going to do something.
		I just was like, I'm going to hurt you bad.
		Sorry, I'm going to have a little flashback of enjoyment there.
		I remember getting my knee up because they were trying to hold me, and I just slammed my knee right in that guy's ribs, and I heard him crack.
		He started crying.
		And I just punched him right in the nose and just smashed his nose almost completely off his face.
		Anyway, sorry.
		I'm sorry, folks.
		I'm a little emotional right now.
		I have some more memories.
		Very good memory, though.
		Oh, yeah.
		Sorry.
		So, McClimbing in that minivan, bleeding us running like a bunch of little cowards.
		Oh, I had a gun in my pocket, too.
		Kind of blasting them, but I didn't do that.
		I beat the living hell out of them.
		Sorry.
		Excuse me.
		Sorry.
		I assume those memories are just.
		I'm not a sadistic person unless it's bullies attacking me.
		And I just started having some pleasure, some feelings of victory and overcoming and dominance.
		And I'm sorry.
		I apologize.
		I'm going to quit right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, forgive you, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What another amazing thing to add to your lore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking cartoon character.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is so over-the-top, like Tex Avery wouldn't involve the president set to beat him up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To beat him, to rough him up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before he was even really relevant at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nah.
		Well, I mean, Clinton, the Clintons, both, they're also a little psychic.
		They're actually several thousand years old along with Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He went to a witch church.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Yeah.
		So they can see, they kind of knew that this battle was going to last a long time.
		So they were trying to kill him in his income.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get ahead start.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But didn't work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But not kill him.
		Sure.
		And then get your henchmen beaten up and then they just never.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I guess they disappear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Larry Nichols was supposed to be like a murderer for the Clintons.
		I thought they killed people.
		No, but they punched Alex a couple times and then got their ribs broken.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were going to rough him up a little bit, teach him a lesson, but then they were like, oh, you hit us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, you're too good at fighting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I never would have seen this part coming, seeing as how we're professional assassins for the political presidents.
		Yeah.
		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fucking so dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is pretty convinced there's going to be a false flag at a black church.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's because he recognizes that his audience.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's all a bunch of Dylan Roofs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I would guess they've got a German team, which is the same as the Ukrainians now, a NATO teams that, again, are going to have a mentally ill, drugged up white MAGA person who's shot their mouth off.
		That person will be kept in the van, drugged.
		They'll make sure all the cameras are turned off.
		They'll park somewhere like a church loading dock or something where they can make sure there's no cameras.
		That's their concern with all the cameras today.
		And then they're going to go in and with mask on, and they're going to kill as many black people as they can.
		When it's a professional team, they could kill the church of 300, 400 black folks.
		They'll kill 100 of them.
		And then throw some hand grenades in to confuse the whole thing.
		This is just one type scenario.
		That's the one I think.
		That's probably one of those.
		They probably got the vans loaded, the trips ready.
		I mean, Biden, people control Biden, give the order, they'll roll out Sunday to your black church.
		So they're coming.
		Now, they're going to go in there and just spray women and children saying, hail Trump.
		And then they'll just go and take the guy that's kind of halfway waking up.
		And then they'll just throw him in there.
		And then that's it.
		And then you'll hear that Trump supporter went and killed 100 black people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very detailed.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to call it necessarily a fantasy, but like his imagination of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's almost instructions in that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Feels very.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Want to park at the loading dock because there's no cameras over there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what are you doing?
		I mean, it's not unlike we're in the SWAT van and we're doing a no-knock warrant, is what he's describing, right?
		Is that what's happening?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's upsetting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very upsetting.
		I don't like it.
		So, the people, not sure who exactly this is, but you know, they, the globalists, okay, the bankruptcy court.
		Oh, everybody's trying to take Alex off air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		They're trying to get that's what this is all about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've got to remember that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to take him off air.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're going to do that by posting fake stories about him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So we're 157 days out from the election.
		And they are moving as fast as they can to take us off the air while putting out fake headlines like this in the Associated Press that I'm going to show you.
		Sandy Hook families offer to settle Alex Jones' $1.5 billion legal debt for a minimum of $85 million.
Six-Month-Old Headline 00:03:53
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, I've not made $50 million myself in 30 years on air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They weren't asking for 80 million and a lump sum, you dumb dumps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, that AP headline that he's reading was published on November 27th, 2023.
		It's over six months old, but Alex is trying to present it as something current because he needs to give this presentation that everyone's trying to take him off air.
		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It can't be a six-month-old headline, and now they've got plans for attacking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And things have gone evolved since this point in November.
		Yeah, yeah.
		That circumstance isn't accurate anymore, but Alex is presenting it as if the headline is current.
		So when I'm listening to this, you know, it's like, okay, Trump was convicted.
		Fuck, Alex is obsessed with false flags.
		Oh, man, at least, you know, I'll have a time to catch my breath on Saturday.
		Sure.
		At least, you know, I'll have a little bit of a buffer time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just a quick show on Saturday.
		Yeah.
		It doesn't need to be a whole thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then Alex says this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I am coming in tomorrow.
		At 10 a.m., we go live.
		With Bilderberg coverage, we should probably get not just one of the top Bilderberg experts on Daniel Eslin, who is on with us.
		You should also get Charlie Skelton's been wanting to come on.
		And I said, yeah, just come on once you're at the conference.
		It's get intel.
		It's in Madrid.
		And so live at 10 a.m. tomorrow, and we'll probably go three hours.
		I'll cover a bunch of news as well.
		But 10 a.m. Central Standard Time.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Alex Jones show tomorrow will be streamed at Infowars.com forward slash show, Bandau Video, and on X and any radio and TV stations that want to be able to pick that up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None.
		I heard this and I was like, well, I'm guessing I'm going to tune in.
		See Alex go back to his roots and talk Bilderberg.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be exciting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's great.
		I think it's a good time for it.
		I think it's probably best for him.
		You know, like if we think about it this way, right?
		He keeps saying there's 157 days until the election and all that stuff.
		We can just cicada this.
unidentified		Nothing's really, you know, let's just all take a long nap.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be a month before sentencing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's just sleep it off.
		And while we're in that little down period or whatever, do some of the classics.
		I like the idea of like, we're going to obsess about who drove into Bilderberg.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		100%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the route.
		Perfect.
		This is where we came from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I was excited.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, we are going to talk quite a bit about Saturday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're not going to talk at all about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not surprising.
		So let's go back to the beginning of the show.
		So his plan, start at 10 a.m., go for a few hours.
		If I recall, you said he was on the air for most of the day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he got off air a little bit after six.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
unidentified		Probably six plus hours of all of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't listen to it.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Bilderberg part.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's too boring.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You did cover that, but like, I can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have only one Cuban.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't have time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought, like, okay, we got this Saturday stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can just cut bait on the 31st here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because shit goes crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has Mario Nathal and Nick Sortor on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard of those two people before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two guys who run a Twitter space that's fairly popular.
Chicken Fried Steak Incident 00:02:58
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were the ones who hosted the one that Alex talked to Elon Musk on.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fake Elon Musk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, like, they're pretty popular in Twitter space.
		And they're in town for a crypto conference.
		Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I find them very uninteresting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a loserville.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're not going to talk much about that.
		But then there are some other guests.
		Nick Fuentes comes on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also, Alex discusses the chicken fried steak incident.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But there's more details, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one of these details really, I don't know if we knew this before, but I heard it as if it was totally new.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it was God.
		First, it was like a tap on the shoulder saying, are you eating a chicken fried steak drinking iced tea?
		I'm saying, God, I want to fight evil.
		I want to stand against evil.
		I want to help people.
		Just please help me be a good person.
		Give me a sermon.
		I just love you.
		I just want to be as effective as I can.
		And I just need your guidance.
		And it was like, oh, you want to do that?
		And it was like all this data at once of, are you willing to go through the pain and the persecution and the system coming after you?
		Yes.
		Well, here's an idea of what it's going to be like.
		And you just get all these thousands of possible futures and permutations and things, depending on actions people take.
		And you understand these different scenarios.
		And yes.
		And it was like, all right, so you're making that decision right now.
		All right, well, say you're making it.
		I'm making that decision.
		And that was like an angel or something.
		It was a presence.
		And the hair on the back of my neck was standing up.
		And all of a sudden, it was like, and it was like, I was in another dimension.
		It was like, oh, I wouldn't call it fear, but it's like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon and wind's blowing at your back.
		You're about to fall.
		I was like, oh, wow.
		And it was like, now, here is the download.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Boom.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Start crying.
		Guys sitting there mopping, looking at me like, is this got me crazy?
		And I'm just for like 30 minutes.
		And then after that, I was another person, folks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		So for 30 minutes, you're in this person's restaurant going, why didn't they call the police or call an ambulance?
		Like, you seem like you're in distress the way Alex is describing this.
		That's a poorly run business if they didn't worry about it being dead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to enter this new version of the story into my actually Alex worships the devil thing because what character famously waits for people to suddenly say aloud what it is they deepest desire, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then appears, then forces them to reiterate their agreement of the agreement we are currently making.
Time-Telling Magic 00:06:37
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then immediately following that gives you a massive, didn't expect this to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		World twist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's one dude that sounds like I think Alex, seriously, I think Alex has mistaken all of the Bible for just Faust.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's possible we're talking food poisoning or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's possible too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to keep this in the terrestrial realm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to keep this in a territory that you can understand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to stay at the stake level.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And for me, I'm so worried about letting someone be in that state for half an hour.
unidentified		That to me is such a weird part of the story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially whenever he's talking to God in this story.
		Why is God always so surprised?
		That seems like the one thing he should be well aware of at all times.
		Everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it kind of has to be.
		That's the idea.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to him being like, oh, so you want that stuff, huh?
		How about that?
		But then one guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God must allow for free will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's the one thing that God cannot know is what decision you'll make.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but he doesn't have to be catty about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		There's one thing that God does know very well, though.
		And that is what time it is.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As we know, he tells Alex what time it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		You look up, it's 3:45.
		Oh my God, it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex expounds on this a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now I duplicate this or how I would only when God decides to do it.
		But it used to happen a few times a year.
		Now it happens like every week.
		It happened like four times a month ago in one week where God says, get up.
		And I get up.
		It's like, and it doesn't happen all the time.
		I know what's going on.
		Get up.
		I'm like, you want me to get up and go to my phone or go in the kitchen?
		Look at the clock.
		Yeah.
		Go in the bathroom where the phone is.
		I don't sleep by it.
		I get up.
		He goes, it's going to be 4 a.m.
		Hurry up because it's going to flip over to 401 if we don't.
		Okay.
		And I'm like, I got a piss really bad too.
		I flip the phone over 4 a.m.
		And God goes, now you're thinking that's just a coincidence.
		It's not.
		It's not.
		You have some super time understanding.
		Go ahead and take your piss.
		Now, count down.
		It's at 15 seconds now.
		It's going to flip to 401 in 50 seconds.
		Okay.
		13, 12.
		Get it right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are we doing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Count too fast, gang.
		8, 7, 6, 4, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 401.
		It's like, now, I know you know I'm real, and I've already done all this, but now you, I'm telling you this because big stuff's coming, and you don't always follow what I tell you to do.
		I need you to do what I tell you immediately when I tell you.
		Do you understand?
		I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes.
		I literally just go back in the bedroom, just get down on my knees for an hour.
		Yes, I got it.
		I'm trying here.
		And God's like, and you've done better not drinking, but you still drink some.
		I cannot put this happening.
		In to you when you're drinking, it's lowering your energy resonance, which it literally does.
		So you've got to stop it.
		Because you get a clear signal in there.
		I mean, this is awesome, people.
unidentified		I've literally got God telling me what time it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just don't even know what to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't really know what to say to that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The man's got God telling him what time it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God seems to be doing a little bit of a ta-da kind of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does feel like, eh, eh?
		You get it?
		I can tell you what time it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what time it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that what we're doing here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, stop drinking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I can't tell you what time it is when you're drunk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, I really like, like, I will, I'll share this with you.
		I'm really into close-up magic.
		It's really cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, me too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's really cool.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's that magic theater here in Chicago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been there a couple times.
		And yeah, it's really fun in the lobby.
		At the bar, the bartender does magic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everybody's got their own little tricks that they throw out at you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
		The show is too expensive.
		I haven't gone.
		But if you're at the bar, the guy will do the magic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We went to, my wife and I, we went to see the show.
		It was pretty good.
		They even had a local middler, like somebody who is, somebody who is busking art, straight up art and out in the out on the street, coming in, doing a guest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was fantastic.
		All of which is to say that there's like forces, you know, like the magicians can kind of like psychologically impress upon you the idea of you being like, oh, it is, my card is the Queen of Spain, you know, because they only showed you one card.
		That kind of thing.
		All of which is far more impressive than looking at my phone to see what time it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And honestly, like there's a lot more dialogue going on here than I usually imagine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of talk about how I got to take a piss.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Count.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead and take your piss.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do appreciate a God that's like, hey, go on, finish your business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you the time after you pee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I could have.
		I could have woken you up or just sent you there.
		Any number of times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, you think this is a coincidence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Obviously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, it implies that Alex has to have perfect timing with his countdown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that is another power that he must have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He can correctly suss out the exact length of a second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I will say with his delivery of this is awesome.
		God tells me what time it is.
		That is good timing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is good delivery.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it was great delivery.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, as far as the thing that a crazy person would say, nailed it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, if you're like a low-level Christian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't experience stuff like this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus was super huge on making sure everybody knew there was a hierarchy of people who believed.
		That was his biggest thing.
		At the bottom?
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just kind of feel love.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		When he said the meek will inherit the earth, he was more like, you guys stay down below in the mud.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You dumb-dumb stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to be up there.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want people to eventually go on missions for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm like a cruise missile that's got God's GPS, and God's telling me, hey, I need you to get your act completely square because I got orders for you, buddy.
		You signed up for this.
		This is dangerous.
		You better get your ass in gear.
Why Flat Earthers Strawman Us 00:15:57
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not like for a baby Christian, the Holy Spirit, where you cry and it feels so good.
		And all that's the beginning of it.
		Once you get into missions with God, it is, it is, it is loving, it is direct, and it's, you really want them to get your family, you really want him to kill billions of people?
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know you don't want this to happen.
		Well, then you need to get your ass in gear.
		And that's why I'm telling you the stories because this is all true on my soul.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is in new game plus of life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, geek.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is what it's like.
unidentified		Oh, baby Christians with your, oh, life is good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shut up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, your religion's bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not whenever you're going on missions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		When God tells you what time it is.
		I don't know, but I have been thinking about, like, I do think that Alex might be heretical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, no, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I've been thinking about, like, I'm not particularly religious myself.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, I have, obviously, we've talked about this.
		I'm more accepting of it and enjoying of it than you, for sure.
		But, like, I wouldn't brand myself as a religious person.
		I try to imagine, like, if I was, what would I think about that?
		I think that would be, like, blasphemous.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that what he's doing is actually like really bad on a religious level.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would say very seriously, deadly seriously, that it has only been within the past 75 years that you would be allowed to say things like this in public without being killed.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think even shorter period of time, you'd be able to say things like this in public without someone like very concerned and maybe putting you in the middle of the day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean, can you imagine in the 50s?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine in the 50s somebody saying like, because for all the, for all the, like, what would I, what, the evangelical kind of lunacy going on, at no point in time were they like, all right, let's straight up get into the Charlie's Angels version of the Bible here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's, yeah, it's troubling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little upsetting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also upsetting is Nick Fuentes being on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They kind of just have a fine conversation and it's a little bit boring.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Um, uh, just about like there's a lot of shit going on in the world, a lot of stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh, we just covered Nick being on, so I'm not going to dwell on this too much, but there's one clip that I wanted to play, and I think it's fascinating because Alex corrects himself about something.
		And I'm not saying he corrects himself to the right version of something, but he changes a version of one of his narratives because he knows that Nick likes Nazis.
		This is amazing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, they're a bunch of lawyers, not even military leaders now.
		They're all sitting in rooms acting tough.
		Well, we'll just bomb the Russians.
		Yeah, that'll show them.
		Oh, yeah, that'll really show the Russians, folks.
		90% of the Brits were anti-war until Churchill bombed German cities to manipulate Hitler to bomb British cities, and they went 99% pro-war.
		I mean, so I'm asking the question.
		You're right, it's arrogance, it's insanity.
unidentified		It is.
michael flynn ▲ ● ▼		It's that classic hubris.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've heard Alex say this a hundred times, and it's always the British people were opposed to the war until Germany bombed them.
		Yep.
		And that made them be more for the war.
		I've heard it a bunch of times, not that Churchill bombed Germany to trick Germany into bombing England.
		That's nonsense.
		He said that because Nick likes Hitler.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's cutting him off at the path.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So Nick wouldn't be like, actually, the reason that Hitler did that, he was like, let's just skip past this part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's giving Nazi concessions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Things are headed in a good direction.
		Yeah.
		I think everybody agrees that Neville Chamberlain was right.
		I think going back in time, appeasement is the way to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait for Saturday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, look, don't care too much about Nick Fuentes.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nick Sortor and Mario Nafal.
		I don't really care too much.
		But then Alex has another guest.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is a guest who, when you hear his name, your ears perk up.
		Sure.
		It's not Sylvester Stallone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ron Paul.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rand Paul.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Paul Ayn Rand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to think of a way to clue you in on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's Eddie Bravo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Eddie Bravo is on.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Noted Flat Earther.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has him on and immediately is like just disrespectful as shit about Flat Earth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's very refreshing in a strange way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		So we hear me.
unidentified		Yeah, that big beautiful club right there.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe you think that's real.
unidentified		Oh, God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe it.
		Listen, I love you when you come to town.
		I love you to death.
		And I love challenging the system.
		But Eddie, Trump has been convicted of this fraud.
		They're trying to have World War III.
		They're announcing they're going to start bombing Russia with U.S. weapons.
		And all I said this morning is: I said, you're coming in.
		Can you at least talk a little bit about Trump, the politics, the world, and then we can talk about, you know, the Easter Bunny stuff.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm being mean.
		No, Eddie wants to tell you the big secret: the world's flat.
		And he's got, he's got Flat Earth Dave.
		He's got Flat Earth Dave, folks.
		One of the biggest Flat Earthers here with us, Dave Weiss, Flat EarthDave.com.
		So fine, just tell us, tell the big secret.
		It's all flat.
		I really beat him.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, first of all, Alex started this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't have to invite him on your show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially not with Flat Earth Dave.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Didn't have to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Second, you don't have to say, oh, look at that great, beautiful globe coming in from break and then be like, do we have to talk about Flat Earth?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're being an asshole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, I guess it's kind of like in what appears to be their friendship.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's not like, it's not the most disrespectful thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be if he wasn't friends with Eddie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is being mean.
		I am going to be very honest with you.
		Right now, I am placed, like, my view of the dynamics of this scenario is very much Job of the Hutts Palace, right?
		Like, where the rank core is directly beneath Ajibravo's feet.
		Like, and Alex is both himself and salacious crumb, just like laughing at his own joke.
		Who's flat Earth Dave?
		Flat Earth Dave is the rancor.
		He's going to eat us all.
		That's what's going to happen here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, there is an interesting dynamic that runs throughout this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that Alex pretty much rebuts every point that Eddie brings up, but also they rebut his rebuttals in a way that gets us nowhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's a tragic waste of time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		So, somebody who is knowledgeable enough about this world to know that the globe is the default.
		Yes.
		Okay.
		But not knowledgeable enough to defend the globe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just that, like, when you're dealing with people like Flat Earth Dave and Eddie Bravo, they're going to have rebuttals to your reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, they've heard about the globe before, obviously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They've done these argument paths.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's one point where I think Alex was a little bit weak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is this next clip.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		No, I don't know what the moon is.
		I know that it's not what they tell us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But if you like, well, I mean, okay, we'll get to that.
		Can you give me your take on Trump and nuclear war?
		Let me ask.
		Hold on, hold on.
		Nuclear weapons don't exist.
		Did we land on the moon?
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		Yes or no?
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		That's a no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we're showing some fake stuff.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
		Come on, man.
		You think we landed on the moon?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For real.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		Be honest.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You think we landed on a motherfucker?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you think Starlink's fake?
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		I can prove it's fake.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can prove it's fake.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Flat Earth Dave.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Starlink or the moon?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Starlink is what he thinks he can prove is fake.
		And I think that Alex is really weak in that moment when he won't just emphatically say we did land on the moon.
		I think we saw some fake stuff.
		Come on, man.
		Dude, you just gave Eddie like that.
		Is all the confidence he needs to take this entire interview off the rails?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's crazy about this now is I feel like we should just all not give a shit about whether we did or did not land on the moon, because where we are now is so fucking, we got it, we got space telescopes, we got shit just floating out there that looks into the past but like way far, but it's all fake because NASA's lying to you.
		We can see, like three million years after the Big Bang, like right there, we can use a telescope to see, because light takes a long time, we don't need to.
		Who cares?
		If we landed on the moon right, that's a billion, billion billion years ago sure yeah, so we're on a frozen lake of some sort, all right, i'm listening, now i'm listening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The earth is flat okay, and then, past the boundaries of like, the south pole, sure and shit yeah, there are more worlds that are also flat, all right, and that's the big secret that's being kept Caps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we can kind of like daisy chain our way around the universe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we could if they'd let us, but they won't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's that's the delivery and timing of a man for whom God tells him the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's one thing that I think.
		I mean, Alex and I every now and again agree on something.
		Sure.
		And that happens in this episode.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that Flat Earth Dave sucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is fair.
		That is fair.
		He really does not like Flat Earth Day, but not hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not hard.
		So they get into a conversation about nukes not being real.
		Because that's another thing that Eddie believes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can't have nukes if you don't have a globe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's just fact.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so that is a tenet of their belief system.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I know.
		I mean, I'm just totally focused on Trump being indicted or convicted and World War III.
		But let me guess, there's no nuclear weapons, right, Eddie?
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely not.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		100%.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've heard this before.
		I love that seriously.
		Okay, so there's no nuclear weapons.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		That's meant for fear.
		It's meant for control.
		This is all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's no technology is there?
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there's technology.
		There's big bombs.
		They stack TNT at ground zero in Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
		There's video of troops stacking TNT at ground zero.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow, the U.S. had invaded Japan and did that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Pretty exciting.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		War is a theater.
		That's why they call it the theater of war.
		They're all working together.
		There may be some rogue states and some stuff going on, but all of this is mine.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm yet challenging and questioning everything.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But, I mean, so the Trump adoptment spec too?
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		I think they're really going after him.
		I think if Trump gets in office, that their plans might be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But everything else is fake.
		Everything's a theater.
		How can we?
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		I don't know nothing, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
unidentified		No, no, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's no nuclear weapons.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		There's no satellites.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		I love how you're playing devil's advocate to make sure that you're not labeled as a flat earther.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not being, I don't give a shit how I'm labeled.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like that there is something that could turn Alex into me going, oh my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And kind of bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		I give a shit however.
		I don't care even if the Earth is flat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not playing Devil's Advocate with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is stupid.
		That is great.
		But I think you could just not have him on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think the reason, though, is that Eddie Bravo is a celebrity and he's close to Rogan and Alex doesn't want to alienate somebody who is close to Rogan.
		And so he humors Eddie about the flat earth stuff pretty regularly.
		And so when Eddie comes on and Alex is doing this, he probably thinks that it's playing Devil's Advocate, which is what a lot of bigots can do if Alex ever pushes back on their stuff.
		It's like when he gets calls that are people like, we get the globalists of the Jews and you start saying it because you want to keep up appearances and stuff.
		That's what Eddie thinks, but with Flat Earth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it's why Alex can get away with apologizing to Humdi Ula guy, you know, like, oh, I'm so sorry about that.
		He's not sorry.
		He's not going to change anything.
		He doesn't care.
		And everybody who sees it is going to be like, well, yeah, he has to do that to avoid losing $1.5 billion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the excuse that they all make to maintain their own image of who he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's pretty cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's great to lie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Eddie believes that Trump is also a secret flat earther.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Okay.
		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Eddie, give us your flat Earth hypothesis.
unidentified		I think Trump is a flat earther secretly.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		And so is Donald Trump Jr.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think the Earth is actually drawn from Europe.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Obama knows.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Obama said talked about flat Earth eight times during his president.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about it.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		In his speeches, he says, we don't have time for a meeting of the Flat Earth Society because that's where they want you to go.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		That's where they strawman us.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		The Flat Earth Society is fake.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because they want you to go there because you go there, you spend five minutes there, you'll never look at Flat Earth again.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		No flat earther believes any of that.
		No flat earther believes there.
		There it is right there.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		No flat earther believes that.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		That's not earther believes that.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Two fake models.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		That's a heliocentric fake one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do they believe?
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		We believe that we are the foundation of the universe.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		That's the best way we have it.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		Here, Alex, Alex, check this out.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		Check this out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got it going to break.
unidentified		I get it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All that matters is a flat Earth.
		I understand.
		It does.
		It does the foundation of all these things.
		That's the back of our arms.
		It's like Juju, Juju, Joe.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		It's on the one that's quite.com.
		Watch those videos and make up your own mind.
		Don't believe anything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got to get a break.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do like that Flat Earth Dave is doing what Alex does to other people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yelling out his website and stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is a little bit fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is nice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But just to give some clarity, when Alex said Juju Juju Ju, he was saying that in reference to something he had said earlier, which is that there's a lot of people like anti-Semites who are obsessed and every issue comes back to Jewish people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's what he's accusing them of being like with Flat Earth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I just wanted to make that clear in case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I will say this: all right?
		They are right.
		There can't be nuclear weapons if there's a flat Earth because it would require E equals MC squared to be correct, which would require an entire universe, which would require globes.
		It all requires globes.
		So if that is the case, all right, then yes, it is the only thing that they are that is really important right now because they're lying to us about everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But our phones shouldn't work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a big problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They deal with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure they do.
		I'm sure they do deal with that.
		I have no doubt they deal with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we would deal with it too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure we would.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I have a clip.
		It's three minutes long.
		And I need to play it because I laughed out loud when I heard this.
		Eddie and Flat Earth Dave keep insisting that Alex watch a trailer to a new documentary.
		Oh, my God.
		I tried to find this documentary.
		I don't think it's out there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is a documentary about how all of our buildings are secretly older than they really are, and there was an old civilization that this has been built on top of.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, I'm way in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex loses his, like, he's just done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just done with this shit.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he does play at the trailer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then mutters over it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there's a new documentary out.
		You're telling me about it.
		Can I see the trailer?
		Yeah, we'll play the trailer.
		And then, meanwhile, I've got like family diaries from 200 years ago with, you know, describing fighting the Indians and all the stuff.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you guys are saying it was like metropolis is right where we're at.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		And we repopulated the earth.
		All of these cities we hear.
		And then it's like West Earth.
		We populated horses and buggies next to these giant buildings.
		Horse.
		You can find it at flat earthdave.com.
		There's a big banner.
unidentified		Just click it.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		It will change your life.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, great.
		And you guys just boom.
		Like, it's just boom.
		The United States was one giant city.
		None of the family diaries are right.
		None of the people passing information on.
		There was nothing here.
		Pure cities.
		Pure cities.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		There's lots of truth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		None of these buildings were built.
		They were built thousands of years ago.
		Okay, so let's play the trailer.
unidentified		Here it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		This is total Hibler.
		There's a lot of architecture in the world today, on every continent, of buildings that are much, much larger than you would think people of our height would build.
		Cities in America that look as though they were constructed in medieval Europe.
		The outside's incredible.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		But the inside is built like a palace.
unidentified		I'm not sure any schools of architecture back then.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		They ought to be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're at the pinnacle of our civilization now.
unidentified		This is the best it gets.
unidentified		The best we've ever done.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look at the quality of these walls.
unidentified		Now you'll go through a neighborhood and every home looks the same.
unidentified		How do we know we're going backwards?
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Everyone would be pissed.
unidentified		As an architect of 20 years, I like to look at a building as telling its own story.
matt bracken ▲ ● ▼		You like to say that stones don't lie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Chenzophrenics are not making movies.
unidentified		It was built in a year.
matt bracken ▲ ● ▼		The history that we've been told is a lie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you rejected the system.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Make something so massive.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Was that building here longer?
unidentified		I feel like the beautiful towers.
matt bracken ▲ ● ▼		What kind of technology was up there?
unidentified		These buildings were built by the prior civilization.
unidentified		A beautiful, easy, graceful method of travel.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Flush down the drinks.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Nope, no more airships.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And they have to lie to us about that.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They had to write the storybooks.
unidentified		We learned about the Chicago Great Fire.
		There were fires in every major city burned to the ground.
		It's impossible for any stone building to be burning down.
		What's being counted?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, stone buildings never burn.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		It's not going to be a plus representation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So the paradox is the system's lying, so now we believe nothing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, the system is not lying.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		They're telling the truth.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stone buildings never burn.
		Stone buildings are full of tapestries, full of wood girders.
		They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie.
unidentified		What temperature do stone melt?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When the girders collapse, it falls apart.
eddie bravo ▲ ● ▼		The stone girders?
unidentified		So stone, there's wood burners in the stone melt with the fire.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie.
		Come on, Eddie.
		I want that.
		Oh, my God.
		That's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is a man who has been pushed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, here's what I like.
		Here's what's great about it.
		And it is like, it's why I get mad whenever like religious people look at another religion and they're like, oh, that's fucking stupid.
		It's like, listen, buddy, it's all built on the same shit, right?
		Like to get Alex so angry at him watching Endgame.
		Like it is him listening to Endgame about something else.
		It's just a Mad Libs version of Endgame and him being like, oh, this is so stupid.
		It's like, what are you doing, man?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This shit is incompatible with the stuff that I use to stoke fear and create narratives.
		And so I can't really go along with it.
		And I can hear something really fucking stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I can be like, that's really stupid.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he could do that with his own stuff if he wanted to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He could.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, you don't want to pierce the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't look at something exactly like what you're doing and call it stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, you're going to find yourself in trouble.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think I might have gone to the wrong website.
		I think I went to flatearthdave.tv instead of flatearthdave.com.
		Maybe that documentary is on there, but I really wanted to watch it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had so much of Alex's content to take care of, and I still would have tried to fit that in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because that documentary looks amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stone does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just love.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stone buildings have never burned down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As an architect of 20 years.
		You should not be in this documentary.
		As an architect of 20 years, I no longer trust your architecture.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that was Art Vandalay.
		Maybe.
		Wasn't that George Costanza's alias?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it is?
		No, I don't remember.
		I was never a Seinfeld guy.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we reached an emotional high on Friday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe we have not made it to Saturday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's a lot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, Trump got convicted.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got worried about false flags.
		We dwelled in this space for a while.
		We talked to Nick Fuentes, got a little bit racisty.
		And then Eddie Bravo came in, and we had one of the great interviews, I think, on this show's history.
		Just stone buildings burned to the fucking ground.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
		It's so good.
		You could sum up.
		I mean, I feel like that sums up so much of life.
		Really?
		Like as just a metaphor to use on all, hey, stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
		Like, we should be saying that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I was like, I'm kind of in for Bilderberg coming.
unidentified		Church.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of in for this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got me with the Eddie Bravo interview.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So then we turn up on Saturday.
		Uh-huh.
		And nope.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not Bilderberg coverage immediately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because something has happened since Alex was on air with Eddie Bravo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got bad news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Things are real good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Things are good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Things went real bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is Saturday, June 1st, 2024.
		When I tell you that this could be one of our last broadcasts, I want you to listen to me very carefully.
		I have worked with the system.
		I have been totally professional.
		I have been completely truthful.
		And by the grace of God and the fact that I am a Boy Scout when it comes to my life and finances and things, very straightforward person, like my family.
Grand Jury Indictment Declined 00:03:40
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They had Justice Department investigations, criminal investigations, grand juries.
		The Washington Post admitted what I've already been told.
		Six different criminal investigations in the last five years.
		And no grand jury indicted me for all the stuff they tried to cook up.
		And I never made a big deal about it.
		And I didn't tell you when the FBI and the Justice Department was subpoenaing me and putting me through all of these grand juries.
		I just didn't talk about it on air, okay?
		But what you've seen with Trump and them cooking stuff up on him, they've tried that with me.
		And D.C. decided, and this came out in the Washington Post a year and a half ago, that special district to indict me.
		And Merrick Garland said, no, this is too political.
		This won't work.
		So I was told that by the FBI.
		And then it was in the news.
		So that went on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that went on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Merrick Garland said, no, this shit's too hot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can't go anywhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We can't.
		We're not.
		Listen, we're the FBI.
		We don't cross boundaries.
		Right.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Trump is going to be prosecuted and all this, but not Alex.
		That's too political.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know.
		I mean, I don't believe any of this, really, because he said all of these things in the past.
		He has made a big deal out of these things, and they weren't true then, or at least there's no evidence of this then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I know, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think, didn't we have a situation where at one point it was like, maybe there's an actual criminal investigation?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There might have been, but there was one thing that went nowhere that Alex had talked about.
		And then there was the subpoena over January 6th.
		Right.
		Those were the two things that we talked about when he was, these narratives were taking shape.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If there's some evidence, then I'll change my position, but I haven't seen any evidence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure that somebody has sent something somewhere.
		And somebody opened up a thing and maybe made some calls, and then they're not doing anything.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody gave Alex a call like, hey, you want to talk about that crime maybe you committed?
		And Alex was like, no.
		And they were like, yeah, me neither.
		And that was it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That very well may be true.
		Yeah.
		But that's not a grand jury.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a grand jury.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the level that Alex is saying this got to, where a grand jury indicted him and Merrick Garland said, no way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do not believe that is how it works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seems, yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, wouldn't Merrick Garland know before the grand jury?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, he wouldn't be blindsided by the, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's somebody grand jury to Alex?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex, thankfully, doesn't do any crimes.
		Sure.
		And so, everything is totally fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He never does any crimes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But this still could be one of his last broadcasts ever.
		Sure.
		And things are very severe.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was never scared about this because I, other than speeding, which I don't even do anymore, because I love to drive fast when nobody's out on the road.
Armed Guards and Upset Security 00:04:53
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I haven't had my car up to 100 miles an hour in three years.
		I drive a speed limit now, like an old lady in the middle lane because I'm just going to do things absolutely 100% by the book.
		If I have two drinks, I have somebody drive me.
		I went out to dinner with Mario DeFall last night.
		Just give you an idea of my mindset.
		Went out to Eddie V's with him and his crew.
		Rob Dew went with me.
		I ordered iced tea.
		They ordered drinks.
		And I said, okay, I'll take a double vodka.
		And I had a double vodka.
		That was the first time I've been drinking it in a while.
		And I drove home.
		I mean, I had Rob drive me home and actually slept here at the office.
		I said, Rob, take me.
		Rob didn't drink.
		And I said, just I'm going to go sleep on the couch.
		And I'm going to explain why in a moment.
		I slept here last night and then went home this morning to see my two daughters that still live with me.
		And I'm just trying to give you a feel of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Bilderberg can wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex slept on the couch at Infowars last night.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Okay.
		So Alex went out for dinner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fully intending not to drink.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Having an iced tea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And like all great alcoholics, immediately went to a double hard liquor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't know.
		Maybe he had one, maybe he had two.
		And I have no idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He didn't maybe drink that much, maybe.
		But he did wind up sleeping at his office.
		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're going to find out why.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there is a reason why.
		Okay.
		And this story is insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I truly don't believe it's real.
		Okay.
		But he was at the office.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We saw the security guard, and he was being a little bit weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I already don't believe any of this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get ready to not believe even more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It would take two hours to explain just what happened in the last 24 hours.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I'm just going to give you a quick basic summation, and I'm going to explain why I'm doing this.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the best way to start is to explain that we have a private security firm that's a local security firm, and we've had them for six years, seven years.
		We've got, you know, during the day when people are here, you know, armed guards and the nights and armed guards as well.
		They're great people and they do a good job and they're professional.
		But I don't go around here all paranoid.
		You know, I'm confident, but I pick up on things and I've learned to follow the Holy Spirit instincts.
		So I noticed that a guard I've known for about a year, a nice guy, was acting kind of weird and running around the office and looking at me kind of weird.
		And I called my lawyer and I said, is something going on?
		And they said, yeah, we didn't want to upset you.
		They're going to close InfoWars tonight at 9 p.m.
		And they're going to change the locks.
		And we learned about this yesterday, but we were trying to fix it.
		And we just didn't want to give you a heart attack.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, man.
		If my lawyer said that, the first thing I would say back is, you are fired.
		You are so fired.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm supposed to believe this story, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the security guard is told about this in advance, but the lawyer didn't want to upset Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he withheld the information from the only person who can make any decisions in the entire company.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This definitely is real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to throw this out there.
		All right.
		Maybe I've heard somebody start a story with, I wasn't going to drink, and then immediately get into a long and very interesting story that could be explained away in a very short Occam's razor way of, actually, I got drunk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would not be surprised if he got drunk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think necessarily, with the information that I have at my disposal, I don't think that he's coming up with an elaborate story to cover up for being drunk.
		Okay.
		I think it might be incidental.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I do have some theories about what's going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		For sure.
		All right.
		So here, here's the basic situation.
		If I want to give you a broad sketch of what Alex is saying, sure.
		The chief restructuring officer in the bankruptcy is a guy named Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is saying that he's trying to do a hostile takeover of the business.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's using the security guards as his personal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		He just watched Better Call Salt.
		Gotcha.
New CRO's Shady Arrangement 00:15:28
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they had a CRO, a chief restructuring officer who did a bad job, kind of fucked up.
		They got rid of him.
		And then they got a new person in, which is this Patrick McGill.
		Right.
		And Alex has some pretty severe accusations about him.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We get this new guy that says, well, if I get appointed by the court, I'll do it.
		And he done some small cases.
		And I had some people in Houston that knew him.
		And they said, well, he's never done big cases, but he's known as okay.
		And I'm like, okay.
		So they bring this guy in.
		And immediately he gets rid of all the sponsors we had, which was $12 million a year.
		So he just gets rid of $12 million of advertising.
		And I'm like, why are you doing this?
		Well, these advertising groups and these ad agencies, well, they're not going to get 10%.
		I go, hell, a lot of ad agencies get 30%.
		I said, they're the ones that do it.
		They get the sale.
		They bring us the people.
		They manage it.
		That's normal.
		No, we're not going to have outside groups doing that.
		And I said, well, that's funny.
		John Harmon, he's our affiliate relations director.
		He's with all our great radio stations.
		He's been here 21 years.
		No, it's 22.
		This is a year ago.
		And I said, he's actually managed some of the in-house advertising.
		And I said, he gets 5% for that on top of the salary.
		He does a great job.
		I said, let's bring him in as the ad manager.
		I've got all these advertisers.
		Let's not get rid of this $12 million that we made the year before to bring that in and fund the operation.
		Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll do that.
		We'll do that.
		I'm like, well, you understand.
		You just killed all this other advertising.
		We've got one sponsor that he handles.
		That's the satellite phone company.
		And there's currently, you know, in the bank account, a couple of hundred thousand dollars from that group.
		I want to bring that into free speech.
		That's something that was happening previously that was an ad that John and I had.
		It was something that I was paying myself that he was being paid from.
		Most of it went into free speech systems, but I would pay it into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		So what sponsors is he talking about?
		I mean, he says the satellite phone.
		And that's all good and well, but like $12 million, his only sponsors really are his own products and the supplements that his dad sells, which they pay advertising.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say a little bit of, it feels a little cyclical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's going on here is, if I understand correctly, you're paying other businesses when you should be paying the bankruptcy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what I think is going on here.
		So in October 5th, 2022, that's when Patrick McGill took over as the CRO for Free Speech Systems.
		Alex is referring to Mountain Way, which was a marketing company that was founded in August 2022, just after Free Speech Systems filed for bankruptcy.
		John Harmon was the person who ran Mountain Way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were taking in money for ads.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they had paid Alex $157,000 for these ads personally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so there was this sort of the appearance wasn't good in terms of the arrangement that seemed to be set up to get money to Alex outside of bankruptcy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The order, generally speaking, for honest people is: these people are screwing me.
		I swear to God.
		And then afterwards, you explain how you have done things the correct way by the book.
		The order for liars generally goes with, I swear I did everything by the book.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I swear I was a good guy.
		I swear I don't think I've ever done anything wrong in my life.
		I don't even speed anymore.
		And I definitely don't drink except for that double vodka.
		And then I'm not going to explain things.
		Anyways, these people are screwing me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I have that double vodka.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God can't get a clear line in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you got to, you, you remind me, you warning me in advance that you do not deserve this consequence kind of makes me feel like you'd have this consequence coming.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And this arrangement is shady.
		Yeah.
		This mountain way arrangement is shady and it raises a lot of questions.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
		And that's the reason that it was brought up in filing in March 2023.
		Right.
		And the judge is like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		You got to give that money back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you got to put it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never done anything wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex's lawyer said, oh, I could have sworn we brought that up before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I barely even speed.
		I don't even speed anymore.
		I thought we brought it up.
		I'm sure we did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has taken this, and now this is the way he's presenting it as the CRO got rid of all of their advertising.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		What a dick.
		It's just, he's just making bad money decisions, really.
		That's why we're going out of business is because this man refuses to give money to my dad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And he's a Cretan.
		Alex is very mad at Patrick Harrison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did he use the word cretin?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		His name's Pat McGill.
		He's the CRO guy.
		And he goes to the court, which has got in the news, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, you name it, and says, Oh, I found this money just now that they were secretly holding over here, but don't worry, I fixed it.
		And they've agreed to give me the money.
		I caught them.
		So I go in there with my lawyers when they were here.
		And we said, hey, man, they wrote notes in those meetings four or five months ago, and we filed two months ago.
		You need to go public and retract that.
		That's a terrible thing.
		You have Alzheimer's?
		I mean, I asked him, I said, are you having memory lapses here?
		He said, I'm protecting you.
		It's fine.
		It's good.
		Don't worry.
		And I said, so you're not going to go retract that to the court.
		It's wrong.
		You know, I'd already filed with the court.
		You mean to go make a snake in front of the court?
		Because you just, in the news, said I was stealing money from my own company.
		And this guy is like, literally, could be like play, you know, the bad guys in Oliver Twist or something.
		I mean, this guy is like literally a street Cretan, you know, slimy, I mean, just absolutely the most lie-to-your-face person you've ever met.
		I mean, it is just unbelievable.
		So I'm dealing with that.
		Sure.
		And then three months ago, I'm out there doing Tucker Carlson's show in Florida.
		And I get in my email a secret filing he filed with the court.
		He didn't even know that the judge would give it to me.
		And I have the filing.
		I have it all.
		And he says, Alex Jones is incompetent, and Alex Jones took this money, and I caught him, as I told you, and I need to take full control of the company, and I need to be able to basically fire him and all this other stuff.
		And the judge immediately gives that to me, and has since excoriated McGill in court repeatedly.
		And I didn't talk to him after that.
		Talked to him one time after that with my counsel, just a few weeks ago.
		And he stayed away.
		Except when I'm on air.
		He comes here about once a week, every two weeks.
		He's shit for one day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You haven't talked to your chief restructuring officer in a couple of weeks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This doesn't sound, it sounds bleak.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they're getting along well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		Listen, I feel like at this point, they should have a more collegial relationship.
		You know, like, I'm going to try and get, like, there should be a bit of a smirk.
		You know, yeah, you caught me.
		I'm going to try and get away with something next.
		What do you think is going on?
		We're on five, six years of this shit.
		Of course, I'm going to try something next.
		We're going to be able to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There should be like a music sting when somebody gets caught.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you caught me.
		All right.
		I'll get you.
		You know what's crazy?
		The ones you haven't caught yet.
		Like, that's what you should be like.
		You should be laughing.
		It should be funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		And I can see a world where somebody who is in the position of a restructuring officer would be like, I'm trying to help you by bringing this arrangement into light before it's something that you will probably go to jail for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was no hope for anyone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you wanted somebody to do the job, it would have to be like me because there's no way for a good-hearted, good-intentioned person to come in here and not get their ass blown away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quick pump on the brakes.
		Sure.
		I don't know anything about Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some of the accusations that Alex makes could entirely be true.
unidentified		Hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would like a malevolent monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the idea that he said that Alex is incompetent in a court filing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Makes sense to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like he did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's an accurate statement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be a good way to try and protect Alex and the company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He literally cannot be classified as a person capable of making decisions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He can't have committed crimes with mensrea because he doesn't know what he's doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's incapable of knowing the thing he's doing.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the issue has come to a head, if I understand Alex correctly, because there is a bankruptcy hearing that is coming up.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there is a decent chance that there will not be a settlement reached, and it'll be kicked out of bankruptcy court.
		And at that point, it will likely either go to state or federal court.
		If it goes to state court, there's a good chance that Judge Gamble is going to liquidate Alex's company.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if he keeps it in federal court, he thinks he has a more preferable chance of having a line down and being able to make money and maybe keep the company and that kind of shit.
		Right.
		So Alex's dad owns PQPR, which is the company that sells Alex supplements.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex owed $50 million or some shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has lawyers himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And on behalf of PQPR.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They filed a motion to try and keep this in federal court.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If it comes out of the bankruptcy court.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because that way they would get a better shot of getting money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is what they believe.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so the CRO said no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the CRO is like, no, we're not going to make this filing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That should be how it works, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now he, in retaliation, is trying to padlock the doors at InfoWars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so there's this thing coming up on the 14th of June in Houston, the federal courthouse.
		I'll be there.
		And we're like, okay, well, we'll see what happens there.
		You know, if we can keep it in the federal court because we can ask for it back in there, and then we can do some negotiations.
		There's other creditors, not just, you know, the creditors from the judgments.
		We're still appealing all that.
		And those creditors are saying they want to keep it in federal court.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So your dad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Last week, PQPR, that's my dad's company that I don't have nothing to do with.
		And my company doesn't really know the citizens.
		It's a simple company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's saying to us, we never eat dinner together.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's coincidence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Says, well, I only learned this last night.
		I was like, what the hell's going on?
		They put a filing in saying, hey, we need to get it teed up, but only free speech systems CRO can do it to say we want to keep this in federal court when you kick it out.
		We want to put it back because we don't want it going to the state courts.
		And they say, nope, says we're not doing that.
		And don't, by the way, don't have that hearing, or I will padlock the doors with the private security company that I hired six, seven years ago and we'll shut it down because I can't have my cash collateral challenge and have any expenses going on, even though the shopping cart's working, the warehouse in Denver's going, everything's purring along fine.
		And I went, oh, but you can have security here while we're all kicked out of the building.
		They can be paid.
		He goes, yes, that's essential.
		So it puts the company into cardiac arrest, turns the show off, the radio stations will all kill it.
		Turning one of these off is like turning a nuclear reactor off.
		There's a way you've got to do it.
		Or you screw a bunch of people.
		How is that fiduciary to just boom and to turn the whole thing off and turn the revenue off and all this, all because he's about to be removed on the 14th, and I'm about to be back in control of my company in the interim for the new assault.
		And so because he's not going to get paid $50,000 a month to sit around and do nothing, in my opinion, he's going to then shut it down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you understand the broad sort of outline of the conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he getting paid $50,000 a month?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The CRO?
		Yeah.
		Yes.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe that's about right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck McGill, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck him.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have no interest in defending.
		I have no idea what he's up to or anything.
		But I also don't believe the things that Alex is saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't believe those either.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, not at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But do you understand the general shape of this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is going to be removed as the CRO because it'll be out of the bankruptcy system and such.
		And he doesn't want that to happen because then he'll lose his cash cow.
		Yeah.
		And so he's trying to shut down Infowars as a power grab or something along those lines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it doesn't work.
		It does.
		It does.
		All of this brings me to this place where I laugh at the idea of Game of Thrones because finally, I truly agree that trial by combat makes way more sense than any of this bullshit.
		Everybody go home, fight to the death, and then we move on.
		Maybe Alex wins, maybe he loses, but we move on with our fucking lives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought you were going to say that all of this brings you to the point where you want a double vodka and a couch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I want to fight and just be done.
		Just be done with it.
		Don't tell me it's going to a different court.
		Fuck you.
		Fuck you.
jacob chansley ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we have a situation here where Alex, you know, he saw this weird security guard yesterday.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that would be on Friday after his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The security guard that was ostensibly secretly hired by the CRO to put locks on the door so that he couldn't get in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The CRO believes himself to be in charge of these security forces.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not hired by them.
		They had already pre-existed at InfoWars and such.
		Yes.
		But yeah.
		Also, God told Alex they were going to shut him down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would have to be.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So let me go back to about four o'clock yesterday.
		I've known this guard's been here about a year, nice guy, don't talk to him much, but friendly fellow.
		Walks out to my car, comes out when I get there, does a great job.
		And he's acting kind of like this.
		And man, my instincts are, they're good.
		I've learned to always follow them.
		And God goes, okay, they're shutting Infowars down today.
		You're not been told about this.
		So I bluff him.
		And I go, hey, why are extra guards coming in tonight?
		He goes, how do you know that?
		I went, oh, I mean, I heard about it.
		I mean, I heard about how they're going to lock the doors and change locks tonight.
Calling The Bunker 00:15:23
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He goes, yeah, man, I just feel terrible.
		I go, that's all right.
		This is Jedi-level stuff, man.
		This is what God's told me.
		Like, you go with it.
		When I tell you something, you go with it.
		I literally saw it.
		I'm like, okay, no, they're shutting this down tonight.
		So I call up my people and they go, listen, we don't want you to have a heart attack.
		I told you earlier, we're trying to fix it right now, but we've got to try to keep it in federal court and stuff.
		And he's not saying he's going to do that.
		And this is all crazy.
		And I go, let me guess.
		He's claiming there's no funds to run this, even though there aren't any good.
		They go, yeah, what?
		Have you talked to somebody?
		I go, no, I just see how this goes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex bluffed the guard before calling the lawyers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That wasn't an element of the story the first time around when he was telling it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just saw the guard acting weird and then called the lawyers and then they told him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas now he had information going into the call with the lawyers because God told him and then he Jedi tricked the bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would always give myself Jedi powers if it was available.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're adding magic.
		The story is more refined.
		It's becoming more interesting.
		I appreciate that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, again, we're stuck with just lawyers having conversations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Yeah.
		And we're stuck with Alex possibly saying things that are going to get him sued by Patrick McGill.
		I mean, somebody, this kind of stuff.
		He's accusing him of crimes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Quite literally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So the only way I know how to explain this is just to explain it.
		So I go, hey, guess what?
		It's four o'clock in the afternoon.
		I said, you guys have got two hours to tell me you're not locking the doors here, or I'm going on air right now.
		And I guess you think the security will file your order.
		Sure, have them drag me out.
		I'll call the police because on record, I am still the owner under law with this type of corporation.
		And when McGill tried to take this place over a few months ago, the judge said, you can't do that under law.
		And at the other bankruptcy hearing in Fort Worth in the mediation, the judge told their lawyers and all of them that as well.
		He is not the managing member.
		He is not.
		He is the manager for the court of the operation that reports back.
		He's not that person.
		So I said, you can't even do this.
		You've got to get a judge's order.
		So they say, we don't care.
		We're ordering them to lock this thing.
		I say, fine, you got two hours.
		I'm going on air.
		I mean, you're going to throw me that briar patch.
		You did it.
		Okay.
		An hour later calls up.
		Okay, well, you can pay $15,000, which I don't even, you know, out of my bankruptcy.
		You can pay whatever.
		You can pay to keep it running three days.
		That's the cost of it.
		It's really like eight, eight, nine grand for the crew and all the stuff.
		And then I go, I go, okay, the call gets made.
		Actually, no, you're in bankruptcy.
		They don't want your money.
		They want your dad, who's basically out of money himself.
		They want $15,000.
		My dad says, absolutely.
		We don't want to close that place.
		My dad's got a debt on here, a stake on it, whatever happens.
		He's, of course, we'll do that.
		McGill calls back up to his lawyers and says, you know what?
		It's $25,000 now.
		And you better send me an email by 7.35, 7.30, or I'm shutting it down.
		It's just all like weird, you know, thug gangster stuff.
		My dad goes, sure, but does that mean it's going to go up again?
		So they didn't want me to go on air.
		That's the only reason they didn't lock this place.
		They thought they were going to sneak attack it and I'd come here and it'd be locked up.
		And I think me talking about this, they may do it tomorrow.
		And it's fine.
		I'm coming here with the police.
		I'm calling the police.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		So this is.
		Okay.
		So if you try and keep this in your head in terms of like the flow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Show ends with Eddie Bravo talking about flat earth and what have you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Four o'clock, he bluffs the security guard and calls the lawyers or calls the lawyers after seeing a security guard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unclear exactly, but that's at about four.
		Right.
		He threatens to go on air and is extorted for money by the CRO at about 7:30.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		So this is quite a night.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I mean, I fuck Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how you have to talk to these assholes to get anything.
		But they tried lawyers.
		They tried being polite.
		They tried being impolite through lawyer shit.
		Fuck you.
		Pay me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's what's happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Money or you die.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's what's fascinating about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A great deal of the time on this episode on this stream is spent with Alex talking about how he's been too nice and everybody's gaslighting him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has a sort of entirely different view of things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would imagine so.
		Yeah.
		Somehow, narcissists seem to find themselves being the victims.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And man, I think if I were Patrick McGill, one, I'd be afraid for my life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The way that Alex is targeting him, he's putting his picture up on screen.
		He's calling him a Cretan.
		He's accusing him of extortion, basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For keeping the show on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, Alex is really, like, I would be very uncomfortable if I were him.
		Number one.
		Number two, I would be immediately filing something.
		Sure.
		I would be, I would, Alex would be in trouble.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you can't say something like this about someone's reputation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I would personally feel like I was stealing money from the families because I was taking $50,000 a month for a job I was only showing up for a couple of days.
		I would feel like that.
		But that may be just me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm not a lawyer person who doesn't give a fuck.
		Yeah.
		Apologies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The only coming in a few days or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's Alex's perspective.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I don't know what kind of work he's actually doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be ungenerous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll allow it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, would you like to learn a little bit about Patrick McGill's politics?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I would.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I imagine so.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was told by the people on the other side of the building, because this is the broadcast part.
		The other side over there is like, you know, accounting and the customer service and the janitor, you know, in-house, you know, stuff like that.
		They're like, man, do you know McGill is like a super hardcore woke leftist?
		And I'm like, no, because you're like, I like your politics.
		I agree with you.
		And I'm around.
		I'm like, whoa, it's really creepy.
		He comes and sit down next to you and I really love you.
		You're such a great person.
		My family really loves you.
		Behind the scenes.
		He's like, that Jones needs to, he's going to get people killed.
		He needs to be in jail.
		Tell people not to take shots.
		This is after all this has come out.
		So he's up here two weeks ago.
		He goes in John Harmon's office.
		He comes in the control room while I'm on air and goes, and I had vaccine people on.
		He goes, he goes, he's going to get people killed.
		The vaccine's wonderful.
		This is this place is a disgrace.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he's a woke leftist who likes vaccines.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know if you need to be a woke leftist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you need to listen to a show for about an hour and then you'll be like, this man needs to be sucked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Being a fairly normal person, you would be shocked by watching a video.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a regular ass guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, this is fucking irresponsible.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		This is great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is this legal?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex slept at the studio last night on the couch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because the locks might have been changed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he wasn't going to let them do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And guess what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to continue.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what's happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so, fuck yes.
		I mean, this could be the last show I ever do.
		I slept here last night.
		And I'm going to sleep here tonight.
		And I'm going to sleep here the next night because I'm going, and I'm not mad at the guys.
		They're nice.
		They want to follow their orders without a court order.
		I'm going to sit there and call the police.
		And we're going to have a good old-fashioned airing of this in the public, all of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, Alex is going to stay here and he's going to broadcast his downfall.
		This is exactly what you would kind of expect is going to happen.
		Yeah.
		We'll see if it does.
		But it's not a healthy play.
		It's bunker thoughts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is bunker thoughts.
		But you know what?
		This is like something where I wish I could be the type of person who could live in a tree, like a giant tree that is going to get cut down.
		It's an old-ass tree.
		I wish I was the type of person who could live in the tree and then just broadcast 24 hours of just absolute lunacy as I lose my mind in the tree.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Various tree things.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's saving a tree.
		Those are tree thoughts, right?
		This is bunker thoughts.
		These are bad thoughts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's a little bit reminiscent of a lot of stuff in his world that is scary.
		Things like standoffs.
		Things like Bill Cooper's.
		And I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's like, well, there's a tradition in your community of sticking to this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do like this that goes back, and you've got a lot of guns in the office.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has that Barret.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He does have the Barrett.
		Oh, man.
		What a day that would be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I was a little bit worried at this point.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm listening to his show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You expect maybe you're going to hear something about Bilderberg, and instead, the CRO tried to change the locks last night and slept here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the fucking plot of airheads.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex needs his mixtape play and his demo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Brendan Fraser's right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So McGill called Alex drunk at some point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, what now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		According to Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'm listed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this was after he made the filing in court that said that Alex was incompetent and all this shit.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Alex recorded him.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he calls up drunk.
		And I don't have a recording app, but we had other phones.
		So I put it on speaker.
		And he's drunk.
		And we recorded it.
		And I say, Pat, why did you file that thing again saying that we're hiding money and that I'm incompetent?
		He says, I'm incompetent and I'm a bad person to the court.
		And why do you think the judge wouldn't give me?
		He goes, Alex, I give you my word.
		That's fake.
		I filed nothing.
		And he says it over and over again.
		I swear to you, that's not real.
		Your lawyers are lying to you.
		You'll hear the tape, I'm sure.
		Help.
		We'll hear it right now.
		Maybe we'll stop your ass punk.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		You know what?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's just air it.
michael flynn ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're airing it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's probably illegal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I'm not taking this stuff lying down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a one-party consent situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think it might not be illegal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I will say that this is a tease that is, he follows through.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He does play the tape.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, whether it lives up to exactly what he's saying, debatable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems like they have quite a bit of a disagreement about what this filing may or may not have said.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so instead of saying, I didn't file that, he's saying, you're saying that I filed something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I would never file what your dad is describing to you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What I filed was a professional document.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Right.
		It seems like through what you can glean from context clues, McGill has heard that Alex's dad thinks that he filed saying that Alex is an alcoholic, and he's saying I didn't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That seems to be the sticking point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we will end up hearing a bit of this tape in a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to, they should have a sitcom or a reality show during this part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I started to get a little concerned because I was pointing out to you how the timeline fits of Friday evening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I started to just have some doubts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Thank you for joining us.
		It's 12:23 Central Standard Time.
		156 days out for the most important election in world history.
		InfoWars is still up.
		Bandout video is still up.
		But I learned yesterday at about 4 o'clock that they were going to lock up the building, kick all the crew out, and take over the company outside of even a court ruling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this just doesn't, it's not sitting right because Alex is supposed to have learned, whether it's through tricking the security guard or calling his lawyer or God telling him at four o'clock that things were going to be shut down.
		He threatens to go on air and then 7.30, there's like this extortion conversation with the CRO.
		Then I'm supposed to believe he goes to dinner with Mario Nafal and has a double vodka and then comes and crashes on the couch.
		Like he would have stayed at Infowars if all this stuff was true.
		Why would he go at the very time when they were supposed to be putting the locks on the doors?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This makes no sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, what especially makes no sense is starting with the iced tea.
		You might as well just dispense with that.
		If you've got this news, you're going for the double vodka.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I couldn't blame you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, never.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not once.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think a more likely scenario is that all of this is bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that Alex is running out of money and he can't run the show anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that there's a decent chance that the CRO is like, there is no money that we can allot for this stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the CRO isn't playing his games.
		I think that that's probably what's going on.
		Shit's getting down to the wire.
		So Alex got drunk and slept at the studio the previous night.
		And now this is a way that he can dramatize the entire thing.
		Yeah.
		Running out of money.
		Let's have our last stand or something like that on air.
		I'm not sure I fully believe the idea that they were going to put padlocks on the doors or anything like that.
		But I do believe that underneath this, there is a like, your money might be running out.
		I think that's believable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is absolutely no way a chief restructuring officer of any salt can look at Alex's business and not be like, you know, your overhead on this studio is absurd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For what you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're paying Owen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You could just downside.
		It's you, man.
		Just do, I guess, a fucking podcast, idiot.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's, actually, Alex gets into that a little bit.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not the podcast aspect, but that, like, he's trying to cast Patrick McGill in a bad light.
david weiss ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he's like, you know, someone has to do this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine who would accept that job being a CRO for InfoWars?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're like, yeah, no, it would probably be tough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, bottom of the barrel, who I had to choose from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I believe that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do believe that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, buddy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex, he's not going to get violent if people come to the studio.
		And it's totally legal for him to play this video.
		Okay.
		This audio of the phone call.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Florida's legal.
		Texas is legal.
		We're both one party constant states.
		They'll try to say something.
		I don't care.
		This is all going out.
		This is here.
		And if they try to do anything, I'll go on Tucker Carlson next week.
		He's ready, by the way.
		I'll just say that.
		So you ain't stopping shit.
		Okay.
		I'll be in Florida on Tucker Carlson next week.
		I'll be on Patrick Ben David.
		I'll be on Joe Rogan.
		I'll be on every.
		So see, you ain't stopping shit.
		But let's just get that straight, Buster.
		You think you're going to fuck me over and try to put me in fucking prison and foul lies about me and too lazy to check on follow with the court?
Armed Conflict Threatened 00:15:35
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Obvious who he's working with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Clintons?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You made a big miscalculation, buddy boy.
		So I'm sure, because I'm getting the phones ringing off the hook here, they're going to give orders tonight to shut this son of a bitch down.
		I'm not going to get violent, not going to be mean.
		I'm just going to be here.
		I'm going to call the police.
		I'm going to tell the police, where's the order?
		You ever seen somebody take a company without a judge's order?
		You ever seen that?
		We got armed guys in uniforms here that work for me, and this guy says he's their boss and kicked me out of the building.
		And that's fine.
		We're not going to resist.
		If the cops say go, I'm going to go.
		But I'm going to be taking my stuff out of this building.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You understand they are working for whomever pays them.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They are not Alex's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that Alex is pretty accustomed to viewing his security guards as kind of like his squad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Soldier outfit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I can see that.
		I don't know, man.
		At this point, just the experience of listening to this, I was definitely of the mind that Alex is never going to play this.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I thought, like, this is a great bluff.
		And then when he did play it, I was quite surprised.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would be too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, because it's quite long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would not be surprised at that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then Alex makes another claim of evidence that he's going to bring out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		He was so drunk he couldn't even control his phone when he called me.
		And this is God that did this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man drunk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, there's more.
		Oh.
		Do you think I might have hit record when he came to my office that time?
		And said.
		I've just decided to air that too.
		Yeah, you think I'm going to take it.
		You think you can slide to me like a freaking snake in the jungle book?
		What's his name?
unidentified		Ka?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like, sleepy.
		No, I'm your friend, Mowgli.
		No, you're not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My friend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how, that's what you, you know, if Mowgli had a friend like you, instead of that balloo ass, that's the way you do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we've got a recorded phone conversation where he's drunk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now we have a recording of him trying to elicit Alex to do a crime in the office.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just don't get why everybody's making that.
		Because to me, to me, like Alex has been given something of a gift, which is just total freedom.
		He's going to lose.
		There's no way for him to win.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's also...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So fucking go!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that there is no way for him not to win.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's definitely that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because they can't take his dad's supplement company or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's like, if he just starts a podcast, he can have his dad be the sponsor for it.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, trial by combat does make way more sense, doesn't it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we get to this McGill phone call.
		Sure.
		And, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I give you.
		And, you know, it's a sealed federal document.
		If people want to challenge me, I'll just publish it.
		Got it right here on my phone.
		Do it.
		You want to read the document where I'm a criminal and I'm out of control and I'm bad and I'm terrible and this place will be shut down and whatnot for him.
		I can't get money in here.
		He just killed the advertising and killed the product sales and killed us going on the road and fired a bunch of people and seduced the security head.
unidentified		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Metaphorically.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		While they all sit around in some big legendary operation and pretend they built this.
		You dumb bastards.
		You miscalculated.
		It'll only make us bigger.
		We'll come back even stronger.
		So we don't go out with a whimper.
		We go out with a bang.
		Call me Captain Ahem.
		That's not the line.
		Call me Moby Dick.
		Call me whatever you want.
		So here is Pat McGill, the so-called CRO, who's never even here and does absolutely nothing, and did a whole bunch of other horrible stuff I haven't even told you about that he kept from the court.
		We'll be telling you about millions of dollars.
		Not here.
		Oh, yeah.
		Oh, you see, I'm not even bringing out the strongest stuff, and this is devastating.
		Devastating.
		Here it is, ladies and gentlemen, for the world to hear, telling me he didn't file this secret filing a day before that I got the next day because the judge gave it to me that he never thought I would get, telling me he didn't file it.
		Listen to the gaslighter of gaslighters, Patrick McGill.
		Yeah, Pat, can you hear me?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is weird because Alex isn't like the document that is beneath.
		This is not, it's a secret filing he's not releasing, but he's releasing him confronting his CRO about the filing right.
		So it's very it's difficult to to sort of parse out exactly where it's inexact.
		Yeah yeah yeah, luckily I don't care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's fucking hilarious that Alex is taking to his show for hours on Saturday to get into a war with his chief restrictions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very funny, it is demonstrably funny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's just no other way around it.
unidentified		It's not that interesting no no, but it is funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh my god, it's not what you'd expect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Secret recordings of the crow all right, I mean, I would find it difficult if, if there was an opportunity, if i'm, if i'm going through all of INFO WARS finances, i'm sure there's a breaking point where eventually you're like, if I took a million dollars that they wouldn't even know, they wouldn't know, they couldn't find it, I can't find it yeah, you might, you might.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if i'm Migill, i'm not thinking about stealing from Alex, but I am thinking I should be careful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right when Alex sounds like he's on his show, he might be recording me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I would have my red flags up all over the place on this call.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well anyways.
		So I know you love me, very sweet, but obviously that filing hurt my dad's feelings and some other people.
		Um, you know where i'm incompetent and stuff like that.
unidentified		Okay, so let's talk about that.
unidentified		That did not happen, drunk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, what did happen?
unidentified		I never, and I called your dad and he wouldn't take my call that I would never do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That did not happen okay good, so so so what happened?
unidentified		I have no idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This guy's drunk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a quick, that's a quick pronouncement.
		I I feel I feel pretty confident in Knowing when or when not, people are drunken.
		I don't think I have enough information yet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
		I mean, he could just be the way he talks.
		I don't have a baseline for him necessarily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I imagine you want to repeat things slowly to Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, keep this in mind for Alex's voice a little bit later in the show.
		Might have some more IC.
		Drunk.
		So Alex is confronting McGill about this.
		Yeah.
		And he reads from this filing.
		Yeah.
		And this is where this kind of difference of perspective seems to be around whether or not McGill called him an alcoholic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that seems to be the confusion.
unidentified		Okay.
		I never said what your dad said I said.
		And that document does not say what your dad said.
		It said I would never do that.
		I would never.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
		Well, listen, I got thick skin.
		I have very thick skin.
unidentified		I know that, Alex, but I would never do that.
		I'm just telling you, I'm a Netflix.
		That's not me.
		That's not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
		Well, listen, I believe you, Pat.
		Let me just read you this.
		This is item one, page one.
		That FSS employees, approximately 50 personnel, that has the potential to generate very real significant value for the creditors.
		Point two.
		Unfortunately, the principal, Alex Jones, can be unreliable and is unable to competently manage the affairs of SSS.
		He goes on from there, but unable to competently manage means incompetent.
		So, look, I understand that, I declared bankruptcy, but I thought that was some legalese term, meaning I needed help.
		So, I don't even take that as an insult.
		They all got upset about it.
		Is that the document or is there a different one?
unidentified		No, they talk about you being an alcoholic.
		That's what your dad was saying, that there was some something that said you were an alcoholic and you were not reliable.
		And I said, I never said that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I think they were read between the lines.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What is the point?
unidentified		I think your dad should see it.
		I'm not seeing what you're saying.
		Can you send that to me?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		Well, then let's move on from the alcoholic thing.
		I don't think that's in the document.
		I didn't see that.
		But what about the unreliable, unable to compete?
unidentified		I have never, I've never seen that.
unidentified		I have never seen that in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, back it up for 20 seconds.
		He's now testified in court.
		He did it.
		It's real.
		They did it.
		We have it.
		It's been on national news.
		They put it in the news, and I'm incompetent and all this.
		It was in Bloomberg.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is quite a battle between these two.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if McGill is saying entirely that, like, a filing that said that Alex can't run his business well.
		Yeah.
		Like, it didn't happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He seems to have had a conversation or maybe heard from Alex's dad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he does say that Alex's dad won't answer his calls now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So maybe Alex's dad left him a mean message about how you called my son an alcoholic.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or something like that.
		And that seems to be what he thinks Alex is mad about.
		Right.
		And they're just talking past each other a little bit.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, it's a moot point.
		Like, Alex, the idea now is not that your business makes money for you.
		It now makes money for other people.
		So it cannot be run to your desires.
		It should be run to theirs.
		Do you understand?
		So you can't be trusted to competently manage FSS.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, you probably couldn't to begin with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't care if you're competent or not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has paused it and he starts swearing about Miguel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is what I would describe as the first outburst.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And where there's a lot of language.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of language.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like Kelly and the first impact.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But these people, in my opinion, are crooks.
		They think everybody else is a crook.
		Dude, I ain't a crook, man.
		My family founded Texas.
		They died the major battles.
		My family's work with a Mayflower, bitch.
		My family invented the stock exchange.
		My family owned railroads, bitch.
		You come from scum, not me.
		And I'm not putting little people down, but my family's kick-ass, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, which is everybody about me?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People work with us for hundreds of years because we're the real deal.
unidentified		You got that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I won't sit there and have scumbags like you sit there and claim I'm a goddamn criminal because I'm the fucking opposite, you motherfucker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not good swearing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You want a fucking political war?
		You got one.
		And just pull one more fucking thing.
		You'll see.
		I'll fucking release the other video.
		In fact, I don't make threats.
		I'm playing the motherfucker.
		Let me dig it out.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		So you get some.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's already too much swearing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not good swearing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't feel great saying that as someone who swears a bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I swear nigh constantly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's bad swearing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little clunky.
		So Alex goes back to the recording of this call that he had with McGill.
		And there's another thing that's going through it that seems to be that McGill had been in a fight with one of Alex's old lawyers, Ray Battaglia.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Ray Battaglia quit and now won't talk to Alex anymore.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex believes that it's because he's afraid of the illegality that the CRO is doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he won't be involved with anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As opposed to no longer legally or professionally having to and thus choosing not to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Or being like, I discovered something about the way Alex runs his business and I can't be associated with that.
		I'm not entirely sure.
		Sure.
		There's clearly a lot of backstory to this phone call that we're not privy to.
		And one piece of information that you're not privy to is that Rob Dew is sitting in the car with Alex while they're recording this.
		So here's a little bit of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he is.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Pat.
unidentified		Look, no, not coming.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to try.
		I'm going to try.
		Thank you.
unidentified		All right, buddy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		The fuck was that?
		Hold on, let's just stop.
		Don't stop it.
		Let's get this on record.
		I'm not trying to be mean.
		Yeah, no, no, no.
		This is very dangerous.
		He's had a psychotic break.
		The date is, what is it?
		It's March.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Today's March 6th.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		March 6th, 2024, 2024.
		And we were forced to record this because we told him in multiple lawyer meetings when he first came in about Mountain Way and a few sponsors, and we wanted to bring the sponsors on.
		We wanted to transfer the money to him.
		He said, great.
		I'll tell you when to do it.
		Then told the court that we had hidden the money as a power play.
		He has re-put that in the new document that he filed today, or it was yesterday, the 5th.
		And now he is saying he did not file this document that he clearly filed.
		This is an unedited tape.
		This has been done under duress to my crew and everybody, and I'm being accused of crimes I haven't committed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pat McGill is, I believe, mentally ill.
		All right.
		End recording.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		End recording.
unidentified		Fucking Starfleet Command.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that to me kind of feels like narrative building.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe trying to create a piece of evidence that he can later use.
		Because Alex knows he's performing.
		And you can tell that in his conversation with McGill.
		So I don't know.
		I don't find this to be a super compelling piece of evidence for the context that Alex is giving.
		Although I do love Rob Dew being like, what the fuck is that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think one of Alex's great underrated skills is the ability to prime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like anytime he is listening or seeing or presenting anything, he is already framing and priming the audience for how they should.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what so much of the false flag stuff is.
		You know, it is false flags are coming.
		It's priming for when anything happens, he can use it for his own purposes.
		This is an essential skill, I think, if you're going to be in this field.
		Yeah.
		And it's something that, yeah, Alex, it's just muscle memory for him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, it's easy to make people see stuff if they already want to see it or are already predisposed to see what you show them.
Alex's Offense 00:15:21
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In another lifetime, Alex could have been a wonderful storyteller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A gifted, a gifted devil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he hadn't made a deal with the devil over some fucking steak, then maybe we'd be fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of the best storytellers in the world have made deals with Alexander.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That begun with a deal with the devil.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex, now that he's played this call, he's back on the fucking offense, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and he's excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is what crazy people think.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listening to that tape because you're going, I think he's crazy.
		I think he's mentally ill.
		This guy is out of control.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is back on the offense.
		Take no prisoners.
		This is war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Motherfuckers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God, it feels so good to be on the offensive.
		Look out.
		In my peaceful, loving way.
		You're like Grendel marching into the keep in Norway, thinking he's the boss.
		But somebody's going to turn loose.
		That's right.
		I've got you.
		You don't have me.
		I'm not locked in here with you.
		You're locked in here with me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Figured it out.
		Oh, you didn't figure it out.
		You think the New World Order tried to offer me hundreds of millions of dollars to serve them because they thought I was just one more of the fucking pussies?
		I'm not a goddamn pussy like you.
		I'm not a sellout.
		I'm for team humanity.
		You declare war on me.
		I will take the challenge and you will get what you're looking for.
		Guaranteed.
		All right, I got some closing comments I want to make.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Closing comments.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just play a report, play a promo.
		I'm going to take a piss.
		I'm going to close this out.
		And for the dumbasses that think they padlocked this building tonight, this stuff doesn't come out.
		It'll make the stuff we release 50 times bigger, you dumb assholes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they're trying to stop Alex from putting out this stuff that he's already put out.
		Yeah.
		He just played the audio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So their incentive to lock him down for that no longer makes sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they might as well let it go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he's got some closing thoughts, but he wants to gather himself, go take a piss.
		So play a special report.
		We'll come back.
		Come back and wind this thing down.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Closing comments, huh?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Parting is such sweet sorrow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he literally says that it's a good thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little poetic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So pray for us and pray for the crew because I'm out of funds.
		I'll try to figure something out and try to reconstitute something else.
		Hopefully they back off and go away and they remove this guy and we can move forward.
		But that's where we are.
		And parting is such sweet sorrow.
		Out, out breaths candle.
		Life comes, life goes.
		Things are born.
		They grow.
		They come to fruition.
		They get old.
		They die.
		So I can do a tour of the place and talk about memories.
		I could talk about all the amazing things we've done together and the whole history of it.
		But that will be celebrated through the destruction of InfoWars, which I'm not happy for.
		I've stayed the course.
		I don't want that to happen.
		But I will make plenty of lemonade out of lemons.
		And I will not be gaslit and I will not sit here and I will not lay down.
		But it is critical if you want to support us to support my one sponsor that's separate from this operation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dr. JonesNaturals.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is one of the big messages of the entire stream, which is stop buying from me.
		Go to my dad.
		Go to my dad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The fucking gall to say the one advertiser I'm not associated with has my literal fucking name in it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You raised me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
		How that's totally unrelated.
		I mean, that's okay.
		Here's the problem.
		There's a lot of problems here.
		But one, the language of Alex cannot be used in our current legal system.
		You can't be like, I'll fight you to the fucking end with another motion to try and keep it in federal court.
		Fuck, no, bro.
		Done.
		Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will murder you politically with motions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shut up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get out of here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And second, just the idea of somebody being like listening to this and going, well, I better buy it from his dad to keep him in business.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think maybe there are some people who have that perspective.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not.
		So we sign off here.
		This last clip.
		Alex signs off on what could be his last broadcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's such an amazing thing.
		So this is probably my last broadcast here.
		I think they'll probably shut us down at night.
		They'll probably be police here, everything else.
		It's okay.
		I'll be here and I'll give the address out the time for peaceful people to come and just document what's happening.
		And that's where we are.
		This is history.
		We knew they were coming.
		We need Imperial troops and they're in the base.
		Another cheesy Star Wars analogy.
		And we're here.
		So it's partying is such sweet sorrow.
		It's hard to sign off.
		Maybe we're here tomorrow.
		Maybe we're here the next day.
		Probably not.
		So from the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you for all you've done and all your prayers and all your support.
		It's been amazing.
		And this show's a ratcheting up of the attack.
		We'll try to shut down the next thing we do.
		This is just part of it.
		But they can't silence all of us.
		And I want you to realize how important you are and how amazing you are.
		Black, white, old, young, male, female, you name it.
		You're just amazing people.
		And it's been a great journey together.
		We've changed the world together.
		And all glory goes to God.
		So for myself and the whole crew and my family, you are the M For Wars family.
		Thank you so much and have a good evening.
		And please take action now in a peaceful way.
		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would have been a sweet landing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was pretty good.
		I was going to say, there's absolutely no fucking way this is the closing clip.
		There's no fucking way this is a closing clip, you asshole.
		How dare you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's like 30 more clips.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course there is.
		I can't believe it.
		We're doing a nine-hour episode again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So look, that would have been great.
		Sure.
		I mean, the show sucked.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just complaining about his CRO a bunch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that is a really nice landing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, love each other.
		Take action in a peaceful way.
		This has been great.
		We've changed the world together.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's better than he has any right to.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It feels like if this is my pretend last show, this is a great last word.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is.
unidentified		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like Conan's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, there was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't be cynical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I feel, here's what I'm saying, though.
		This is prime late 90s, early 2000s.
		We do a rooftop concert, right?
		You do a rooftop concert.
unidentified		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what you do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Empire records.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, they have gunmen on the rooftop at InfoWars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Aforementioned airheads.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you do a rooftop concert.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it would be great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Save InfoWars dance and concert.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		100%.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to sell it up to get to the dance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's probably it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got Nugent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got Nugent.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, look.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to figure out how to make this joke, and I can't really figure it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'll just tell you what my joke was going to be.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The twist is that this episode was recorded months ago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was aired because he pretended to record his last day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
unidentified		A couple times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to figure out a way to make it to pretend that this was actually.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's just, it's too topical.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's tough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, Alex signed off pretty cleanly.
		Could have walked away.
		Decided to come back on air a little bit later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Probably after some iced tea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm, I'm it's so hard for me to not tell you some things, so that let that uh stammer okay be uh, be your guy, all right, all right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's where we jump back in okay, and I went.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When I went off air, I said in about one hour we're gonna get a call, they're gonna tell the security to shut this place down.
		And sure enough, the CRO was appointed by the court.
		He told them to do it.
		He and the people were smart enough to not do it, because you gotta have a court order, you gotta have you know, you gotta have a reason.
		So it's a soluble.
		You know a company that is solvent not soluble, you know, but solvent.
		And so I went, okay well, we're gonna go back on air.
		And then everybody batted around and it was consensus and all these lawyers and people, oh, actually there is no law to shut down info wars, but but again, these people don't care.
		There's also a one-dimensional view, and it's not the judge himself.
		He's been very fair.
		There's a one-dimensional view that the person I exposed, Pat McGill, who's watching right now, thinks he shuts this building down and he stops it.
		It's called I Know McGill, you don't know this stuff it's called the Streisand effect.
		You might want to do a little research on the Streisand effect just for yourself see, because I don't set up Machiavellian stuff, but when somebody tries it on me, I'll out Machiavelli Machiavelli, so and so.
		So this is what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the plot thread is continuing from the earlier stream of Alex being mad at his CRO, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So this will be act as our bridge right between the two the, the topic that gets us to the, to the finish line.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you will, I should tell you that there's one thing that is quite different about this stream compared to the other one, and that is that Owen Schuri and Harrison Smith, the Knights of the InfoWars roundtable, are there, not there.
		They are there for the entire four hours, for the entire time, I believe.
		So yes, because they do chime in, maybe they, maybe they pop out, and uh, I don't think they do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm telling you rooftop concert guys no, get your shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Such a better idea.
unidentified		Complain about the CRO on stream.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, he's starting to shut him down again, I guess on Saturday in between Alex's streams.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's smart, I mean, I imagine somebody might have texted him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's, you'd have to have somebody like monitoring the show at least a little bit right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then I mean I'd be terrified if I were him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if I take away that, I'd be watching, because I'd be like, is he gonna put out a bounty on?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, it's not like this is a brand new behavior.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, a million dollars for McGill's head is very available.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he would do that with his lawyer then.
		Yeah, absolutely totally fine.
		So um, Alex keeps making uh, the allegation yeah, of the, the second recording right that he has about McGill.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right, my integrity is absolutely 110% paramount.
		So that's where this is, and I'm sitting here with the crap you pulled and the things you did that I told my lawyers about.
		Like, he came to my office and he said listen Alex, like three months, we're friends.
		Why don't you just keep money aside bills, I don't care.
		I'm like I go The bathroom, real quick, because I, you know, I'm not sitting there like recording.
		We're like, oh, oh, tell me that again.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's over.
		It's over.
		Game over.
		I think by the end of this show, we'll just play for you.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		So keep playing your fucking games with me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Game's over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He hasn't played this clip yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's important to keep in mind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is now threatened over the course of a long time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Multiple times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is like, hey, you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This whole story about the CRO getting rid of our advertisers and stuff, that involves John Harmon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		John Harmon, who is the head of the guy who opened the Mountain Way.
		Yeah.
		The advertising company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also apparently was the one who overheard McGill talking about how he liked vaccines.
		Right.
		Alex is like, I'm going to get that guy on the phone.
		So he decides to call Cold Call out of the blue.
		He calls John Harmon on his cell phone and holds it up to the mic to break the news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Studio overhead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To break the news that they're going to try and shut down InfoWars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you know I'm live, John?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you know I'm live, John?
unidentified		Do what?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm live on air right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want you to know that.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I asked the crew to call you on your cell phone.
		Are you guys able to call him before Spaces Comments?
		I asked the crew to call you.
		They didn't.
		I'm not mad at them.
		I just showed them how fast I can call somebody or pull up a story.
		It's kind of a neurotic thing.
		Can you guys call John Harmon?
		I want to get him on air.
		I'll just do it right now, speaker.
		So, John, have you heard about the controversy?
		Or are you not?
		I don't blame you not tuning in on Saturday.
		Have you heard what's going on?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I have no idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And John, we're on here right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't say anything.
unidentified		When you worked here since 2002.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, so 22 years.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you started out as a board operator, and you've been a sales manager and an affiliate relations director, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we got word last night they were going to close Infowars and kick us all out.
unidentified		Oh, dang.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dang.
		Oh, dang.
		Quite a response.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's probably somebody who's been like, you know, they're going to close this place out eventually, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or somebody who's heard Alex say this a hundred fucking times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dang.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dang.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're coming for us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, you're live on air again, huh?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not a response of somebody who seems wildly concerned about the job he's had for 22 years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He really doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It feels like he should be more concerned, yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe people don't take Alex's pronouncements too seriously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's tough too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he, Alex, is just accusing McGill of crimes, and he says he's going to go to the FBI about it.
unidentified		Great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you had an image of an encyclopedia of a gremlin, it's Patrick McGill.
		We'll put his picture back up, folks.
		Everybody needs to know who this guy is.
		I know he flipped out once it's shut down.
		Hey, Pat, get the show shut down.
		If that's what you want to do, Streisand effect, dude.
		I know you don't know anything.
		Take your shots, buddy.
		Streisand effect.
		Guys, pull up definition of Streisand effect for old Patrick McGill.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That was a nice house Barbara Streisand had that she didn't want anybody to know about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So she got upset about us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was the top story in the country.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then everybody, now it's a famous picture of her giant mansion on the beach.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, hey, John, I'm sorry I called you about this.
		And, you know, we don't have any plans.
		I'm going to try to get a new employer.
		I can't be the owner in the future.
		We'll try to figure something wrong.
		I think, regardless, I have to dig through my phone and get the other stuff, but it's there.
		And, you know, this, I couldn't even believe it.
		I called my lawyers right after I was.
		He was just in my office saying, you can keep money and secretly.
		Let's work together.
		And I said, dude, is this a joke?
		I mean, it's just like, come on, man.
		Come on.
		Come on.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So it's like I just played a two of hearts.
		I have a royal flush.
		You understand, and it's not like blackmail.
		I don't even want to put the stuff out of there.
		I'm not even asking for something from these people.
		I'm just like, I'm going to the FBI Monday.
		I'm going to FBI.
		I'm going to the FBI.
		You're like, well, the FBI's corrupt.
		No, no.
		I'm going to take them all the stuff.
		I'm going to the FBI.
		Here, Pat, going to the FBI.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the FBI, the people who are all involved in this, aren't they the ones who are pulling the string?
Alex's Revelation 00:04:30
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex actually realizes that.
		You can hear it a little bit.
		He realizes that in his narrative, the FBI is the one who's setting him up.
		And so he's like, yeah, I'm going to go and bring them to this information to be like, I gotcha.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's what he's going to do.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I find this difficult to believe unless it implies a real deeper familiarity with illegality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because if you are somebody who's a Boy Scout and doesn't do any crimes, and then you record your CRO trying to solicit you to commit a crime and you tell your lawyers about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then nobody does anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Until you have to make a big dramatic live stream about how you're going to get shut down.
		And then you bring all this stuff up.
		I feel like you would probably deal with this through proper channels unless you're like, I'm going to sit on this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of crimes going around for a lot of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never been in a large criminal disorganization before, but I imagine if everybody's doing crimes, you keep a little back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You keep a little back in case you need a little bit to show up at later.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little crimey for me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That didn't work as well as.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not just going to throw out crimes because then they're going to point out some of my crimes and then we got to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's mutually assured destruction crime.
unidentified		Right.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is pissed off at Patrick McGill.
		Right.
		He's shooting shots.
		He's talking straight to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, he wants to go on Twitter and go on spaces and talk to the people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, of course, this leads to him spending a fair amount of time talking about how great Elon Musk is because, of course.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, and part of what I don't like about the nitpicking about Donald Trump or Elon Musk is we've been through some crap because of what we've done.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		And then to have people on our side go, let's attack the enemies that are out in the open.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't attack people that are giving us fucking attack mode.
		Fucking bomb the enemy.
		Elon Musk has opened us up to scorch their ass and we're going to sit around and say he could have done this better.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit, man.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He eight says for me, I'm fucking annihilating the enemy right now and I'll take that window to drop these bombs any day.
harrison smith ▲ ● ▼		Because when people are inspired by Elon Musk, they need to know, hey, it's going to be a tough road.
		They're going to attack me, but hey, at least the people have my back.
		At least people that see what's going on know what I'm standing at.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And what does Elon say?
		He says the globalists are going to kill everybody.
		Their plan?
		They think they're going to kill all of us.
		They won't get killed.
		Elon's like, this ain't working.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He just for him, it's a very pragmatic statement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think.
		Didn't Alex have like proof that he was being shadow banned the whole time that he was back on Twitter?
		What the fuck?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		None of this matters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex very clearly understands that this is the, he needs this lifeline.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he is running out of money, Twitter is free.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ish.
		I guess you still have to, I guess if he wants that check mark he's got to pay or whatever.
		Maybe he has an arrangement.
		Sure.
		But he needs that.
		That's a way that he can get his voice out there in a way that he can't if he's off all these radio stations and if banned.video goes away and all of this.
unidentified		So God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing about Harrison Smith and Owen Froyer.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is when you've got Alex in this mood, if you match his energy, you could send him to the fucking moon.
		You know, like if he, if it was him and I was just vibing back with him, just like, yeah, these motherfuckers are out of control.
		He'd be throwing the N-word around in like five seconds.
		Yeah, exactly.
		That's what I'm saying.
		Like, their job is to try and keep his energy to a manageable minimum.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They appear to be hanging their heads for a fair amount of this, and I don't think they're praying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good call.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would not want to say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a little bit of like at times they chime in and say, oh, it's been so great working here and stuff like that.
		But yeah, there seems to be a little bit of shame.
		So Nick Sortor is back.
		He's on the Twitter space.
		He apparently went to dinner with Mario Nafal and Alex the night before.
		So presumably he would have been told about Alex's revelation.
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dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They bring up they were at dinner and doesn't, there's no conversation of Alex had drunk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You told me last night.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, Alex had drinks and didn't go on a massive rant about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying it's impossible that all of this can't all be true.
		Sure.
		It is just a little strange.
nick sortor ▲ ● ▼		And one of the questions that we're getting a lot, Alex, is what does being shut down look like?
		You know, because some of these people have been listening to for years and they're afraid that they're not going to be able to hear your voice anymore.
		Just to sum it up, generally speaking, what does it look like to be shut down and how do you overcome that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've tried to save Infowars, so I've made myself not think about that and try to just save this.
		But now that we're so down to the wire, we just get bigger.
		As many interviews as I want to do, I have a new employer.
		They can't stop the first woman, but still, it's still there.
		We try to bring the crew back.
		I haven't even worried about all that.
		But, I mean, I've been a little Machiavellian about it.
		I'll be honest.
		I'll say strategy on error.
		I mean, I could easily go, instead of hiking two miles every morning, hike five miles every morning, lift weights, lose like 30 pounds in a few months, disappear for a while, create total hysteria, which I wouldn't give up.
		I would just kind of take a pause, like putting the, you know, the executor starship in the dock, retool it, and then come roaring back.
		Or I would, knowing me, I'll probably immediately do all the interviews and immediately just go on a rampage and immediately go set something else up.
		But I haven't, I haven't, it's kind of like, I don't cheat on my wife, but if she died, I would probably find another woman and get remarried.
		So it's kind of like this woman dies, which I'm trying to save her.
		I'm at the hospital with her, holding her hand.
		Then if she's dead, I'll bury her next week and I'll go get another woman next week.
		Do something because I need a woman.
		You know, that's what I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's strange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If that metaphor is what you want to be on air for the rest of your life, then sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd love to hear that as a spouse.
unidentified		I mean, you know, I don't even.