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June 3, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#930: May 30-June 1, 2024

Alex Jones’ May 30–June 1, 2024, episode spirals into chaotic theatrics after Trump’s conviction, blaming "jury instructions" while mocking Flat Earther Eddie Bravo and his own financial panic. He claims Patrick McGill, InfoWars’ CRO, demanded $25K to avoid a shutdown, alleging drunk calls and embezzlement—though recordings contradict his framing. Desperate, Jones pivots to promoting Dr. JonesNaturals.com, swearing through apocalyptic rants about "Satanists" and the "New World Order," while forcing exhausted co-hosts into a staged farewell. The episode reveals a man clinging to conspiracy-driven spectacle over substance, using fabricated crises to rally supporters and deflect blame, all while possibly sabotaging his own platform’s future. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 01:06:33
d
dan friesen
01:24:37
j
jordan holmes
50:37
Appearances
c
chase geiser
infowars 01:14
d
david weiss
01:25
e
eddie bravo
00:36
h
harrison smith
infowars 01:14
j
jacob chansley
00:51
l
liz crokin
00:36
m
michael flynn
r 01:10
o
owen shroyer
winn 03:26
s
steve bannon
r 01:05
Clips
m
matt bracken
00:19
n
nick sortor
00:18
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgeparty.com.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, Shang, we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
harrison smith
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
unidentified
Rattler and Rattler.
Riddler.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kandy.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the airplane for all of us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin colour.
Saying I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to Acknowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
You go first.
jordan holmes
My bright spot is going to continue to be the French Open, my friend.
dan friesen
It's going along nicely.
jordan holmes
It is going, you know what?
It's such a great tournament this year.
And it is obvious.
You know, like, everybody is playing their as hard as they possibly can.
Sure.
They're hearts.
dan friesen
They're doing it for Rafa.
jordan holmes
No, they're doing it because Rafa's not there.
Like, that's what's fun about it.
I mean, it is like, when you think about it, for most of these people's entire lives, almost two decades, almost two full decades.
dan friesen
He was unbeatable.
jordan holmes
The best you could do was get your ass kicked by if you had the best French Open of your fucking life.
It would wind up with you getting your ass absolutely embarrassed by Rafa on that claim.
Absolutely.
And now everybody's like, man, I might actually win this fucking thing.
dan friesen
So is Varev still in it?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You are saying these are your favorites.
jordan holmes
Survived a long five-set match, almost lost.
Jokovich, five sets, almost lost.
Like, it has been a fight.
dan friesen
That is an interesting thing.
jordan holmes
Everybody is fighting their asses off.
It's great.
It's great.
dan friesen
I'm happy for you, and that's thrilling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's fantastic.
dan friesen
We'll crown a new winner.
jordan holmes
That is the goal.
Unless horrible things happen.
dan friesen
Someone gets injured, Rafa comes back in.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
That would be an interesting pro-wrestling move as if he descends from this.
dan friesen
You'd hear Jim Ross.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
It's Rafa.
jordan holmes
It's Rafa.
Dressed like Sting.
Right.
Sliding down the crow making.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I think I could do that.
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
No time for bullshit.
jordan holmes
No time.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
None.
jordan holmes
Bullshit achieved.
dan friesen
No, no.
That's my bright spot.
There's no time for bullshit.
jordan holmes
No time for bullshit.
dan friesen
Sorry.
I didn't mean to make it sound like tennis is bullshit.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It is bullshit.
dan friesen
I got no time.
jordan holmes
You've got no time?
dan friesen
No time.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
What a weekend.
I guess my bright spot is that I bought patriotic frosted sugar cookies to get me through what was going on this weekend.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Timing.
Timing is the issue.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
So we recorded our last episode on Thursday.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And as soon as we finished recording, we realized that Trump had been convicted.
jordan holmes
Immediately out of date.
dan friesen
And immediately felt like, oh, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So you knew when we were coming around to do an episode for Monday, got to cover Alex's response to the Trump conviction.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
So obviously, we're going to be covering the 30th March Friday's episode.
Right.
Thursday and Friday.
Sure.
Excuse me.
Then everything went to shit.
This weekend was insane.
Alex was on air almost all day on Saturday.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yes.
And so I needed those patriotic cookies to get me through.
And man, this episode's a mess.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That's my bright spot.
All right.
This episode is a mess.
jordan holmes
It's a mess.
dan friesen
I have more clips than I would like.
Uh-oh.
Shit goes so wild, it doesn't even matter that Trump got convicted by the end of this story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
What you think is going to be the most important thing in the world is just like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Not even very interesting at this point.
Okay.
So we'll get down to business on all of this.
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Master Galen, thank you for believing in this weird little guy's medieval dreams.
I'm proud to be your man-at-arms.
Love you, buddy.
Thank you so much.
You're an out policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Evil Jordan be like saying hi to some new wonks is a terrible idea.
Thank you so much, you're an out policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Tristan B. and Audrey say sorry for the English were French.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we had a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to at Church of GTA.
You are now a technocrat.
And Sarah is on a little breakie for now, but Tojo hopes she gets better soon.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go honking money and telling you it's brilliant.
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Bomb, Jarjar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I feel like I'm rushing through things a little bit.
Yeah.
And I need to remind myself to take a breath and slow down.
But I feel like Alex in front of all the stacks of paper.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We got a lot of people.
So much to get through.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I'm remembering various things that are going to come up.
And I'm like, there's just no way.
There's no way.
All right.
So here's a little out-of-context drop from today's episode.
alex jones
I'm serious, folks.
This is like so fucked up.
I mean, it's just so fucked up.
It's just like such a fucking people.
So fucked up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Well, you told me before the show to buckle up.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
I have double buckled.
Yep.
Now I know we're in full fucked up territory.
dan friesen
Oh, it's so fucked up.
jordan holmes
These fucking dog people up.
dan friesen
So we're going to start here on the 30th, on May 30th.
And obviously, Trump was convicted later in the day.
Sure.
So Alex is on air before the conviction happens.
But everyone's pretty sure he's going to be convicted.
jordan holmes
He committed crimes.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
And so there isn't like a lot of delusion or anything or trying to pretend that's not going to happen.
We're in like excuse-making time.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, May 20th, 2024.
The New York jury and the historic show trial asked to have the instructions read to them again.
They were confused.
So was the whole world.
And the judge reissued in the same way.
You don't have to find unanimously he committed a crime.
You can all pick different crimes and just say he's a criminal.
Top lawyers, both liberal and conservative, have chimed in.
They say that's completely illegal and absolutely unprecedented in English common law, in U.S. law.
It is unbelievable.
He's not putting his thumb on the scale.
He's putting his tyrannical fat ass on it.
And President Trump has come out and just destroyed it.
dan friesen
He's just destroyed that shit.
So this is one of the big Trump world talking points in the lead up to the end of the trial.
In a situation like the one they were facing, it's always in your best interest to prepare narratives for the worst case scenario.
In this instance, Trump being convicted.
What Alex and his ilk have done is to create in advance a justification for why Trump got convicted, which actually works just fine if Trump is found not guilty.
He was convicted because of unprecedented jury instructions.
That works just as well as they tried everything to get Trump, including unprecedented jury instructions, and none of it worked.
This is a common genre of narrative for Alex to promote these days because there's no downside.
It has the same vibe as the preemptive election stealing rhetoric in that you build up a storyline as to why you could possibly lose while being fully compatible with a possible future where you win.
Alex is drawn to narratives like this because what he's doing is a game, and these narratives are cheap and easy.
In terms of reality, what Alex is saying is not true.
He's exploiting a little patch of vagueness in this case because he's a liar and he just spouts whatever the Trump line is for the day.
Interestingly, the New York Times published an article on May 30th, this same day, saying that this particular line, that the judge had told the jurors that they, quote, could individually choose from a menu of different crimes to find the former president guilty, so long as the total of votes added up to 12.
They said that this started with a tweet posted by Fox News anchor John Roberts.
Alex had been putting out this talking point for at least a day or two at this point.
So Roberts likely got it from Infowars or from some shared source, which is probably a more obscure Twitter account.
The explanation for this is that Judge Marchand instructed the jury that for each of the 34 felony counts, they would need to reach a unanimous decision to convict.
The crime charged was falsifying business records in the first degree, which requires that the person accused be falsifying those records with the quote intent to commit another crime or aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Right.
This is directly from the judge's instructions given to the jury.
Quote, the people allege that the other crime the defendant intended to commit, aid or conceal, is a violation of New York election law, section 17-152.
Section 17-152 of the New York election law provides that any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of conspiracy to promote or prevent an election.
jacob chansley
Right.
dan friesen
The instructions go on: quote, although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were.
So that is the vagueness and the area where they're like, oh, you just pick whatever crime you want.
It's a bunch of nonsense.
jordan holmes
For God's sakes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, you know, something like that was going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Something like that was going to be glommed onto and turned into like the reason why the system got him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is the conservative ideology, the leadership, everything about it is built around that kid who would always find some excuse for why you, even though you wanted Foursquare, actually you lost and he wanted Foursquare.
Something like that.
You know, like it's just, it's the whiny kid who's going to, you're a loser.
You're going to be a loser forever, but you win because nobody wants to fucking beat the shit out of you or you have to go home.
You know, like it's, it's just, that's what it is.
That's all of it.
dan friesen
If that kid's the president.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is, it is like that's what you're hanging your head on.
The judge gave bad instructions.
That's what you've got.
Well, not like we won the game.
No.
dan friesen
Obviously, it'll be overturned.
Because this is so obvious.
It is a little loser-ish.
jordan holmes
Loser shit.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex obviously has Chase Geyser in to do some spaces and to take some calls on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Because you got to chase his space.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You've got to talk about the Trump conviction with the people.
jordan holmes
Oh, I say they should call him Chases now.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
I think it'd be a great idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think Chase gets some branding.
dan friesen
Chase Space.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
That's great.
He needs to keep his job.
dan friesen
So he.
This is interesting.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
When we get to the end of this episode, we'll loop back to your thoughts on this.
jordan holmes
Nobody's going to keep their jobs.
Okay.
dan friesen
So Chase is hearing some stuff, some chatter from people in his immediate orbit that is a little bit disconcerting.
chase geiser
You know what alarms me the most about all of this is I have people that are very close to me that I trust, longtime friends, 10 years.
And in these various chat groups that I'm in, I hear whisperings and murmurings.
And I see it online too, where people are having very rowdy ideas about what they think should be done in the event of a false conviction.
alex jones
And if you look back on that, that's the real theory.
They're turning the temperature up, as Klaus Schwab said, Angrier World, hoping people get pissed.
So that is the genius of the evil.
You just nailed it.
chase geiser
Yeah, I think that's it.
And I'm concerned about that.
I think there's a lot of things, obviously, that can be done before we turn to violence.
alex jones
Violence is not the answer.
We're winning culturally.
They're going to have to stage stuff and blame us.
chase geiser
No violence.
They want to provoke us to act irrationally because then they can bring the hammer down harder than ever.
alex jones
Well, look how they provocate her January 6th.
chase geiser
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
So he has got a bunch of friends who are clearly talking about violence.
jordan holmes
I was going to say there are whisperings and murmurings that you're hearing about.
Aren't you just listening to your friends say we should kill people?
dan friesen
Yes.
And then Alex is saying, no, And also, that's fake.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Right, right.
You don't know those people.
dan friesen
Globalists want you to think that your friends are saying, let's kill people.
jordan holmes
But they're not because they don't exist.
No, those whisperings are not real.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's not a whole lot actually to cover about this.
Sure.
The response isn't really like that much of an outburst.
There's not really all that interesting stuff going on.
It's just a lot of.
jordan holmes
I mean, everybody knows he did it.
unidentified
He did this.
jordan holmes
Like, right?
Like, we wasted all of everybody's time.
We all know he did this stuff.
It's not about that.
dan friesen
It's a lot of like, hey, the jury instructions, the judge, they're going to get an appeal.
unidentified
I get it.
dan friesen
Trump's going to win.
jordan holmes
I get what we're all doing.
dan friesen
That's just a lot of the show.
jordan holmes
I get what we have to do.
But I mean, it did feel like we should just get to the point where they go, are you going to put him in jail or not?
Because if you give him like six months probation and a $100,000 fine, you have wasted everybody's time more immensely than I can imagine.
dan friesen
Well, we're going to get to that point in a month, I think, right?
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
That's when the, uh, Oh my God.
jordan holmes
This legal system needs to stop.
It needs to be stopped.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on.
He has Darren Beattie, who is the guy who is the – he was a Trump advisor and he got fired.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he was one of the people in the January 6th debate with Glenn Greenwald.
He was the guy who sounded like he was twirling his pants.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was that guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's on, and he's kind of like, I think we're doing great.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
I would have expected things to be way worse, honestly, right now.
And I think Trump's going to win, and everything is going great.
Alex is trying to be a little bit more doom-ish.
Sure.
And Darren's not really playing along all that well.
jordan holmes
The money's in the doom, but I think Darren's probably got a good position.
dan friesen
These guys are both like, hey, if Trump gets convicted, it'd probably be good.
jordan holmes
It'd probably be good.
dan friesen
Yeah, which is fucked up.
alex jones
That's really the paradox here.
Like, if I was a Democrat being evil, they would just have him found not guilty and move on and forget it.
But instead, I think it's better for Trump that gets convicted.
I mean, that's what I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
michael flynn
I think so, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Everybody got what they wanted.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Folks wanted, people who didn't like Trump wanted him to get convicted because he's guilty.
And these people wanted him to get convicted because it's better for their shit, better for Trump can use it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, we were texting.
You were a little jealous that I didn't know anything about what was going on.
And I told you because I've been off the internet.
I've been kind of committed to staying off the internet, getting my news through books.
Man, this is a waste of time.
That is so infuriating.
dan friesen
It is a little bit.
jordan holmes
It's so infuriating that we couldn't just skip past the shit where you whined for fucking months.
dan friesen
You want him to get convicted.
jordan holmes
Years.
You do too, Alex.
God damn it.
Can't we just skip?
Is everybody just bored?
dan friesen
This is so much, I think, similar to like, in reality, they wanted Hillary to win.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Like, they wanted the thing that the other side wanted.
jordan holmes
That's the insane person to kill people.
That's terrible.
dan friesen
And you don't want your weird demagogue, fucked up idiot to actually be in charge.
jordan holmes
He's insane.
We know that.
dan friesen
You want him to be not in charge.
Like, 2020 is much better for them, him getting screwed out of the presidency or whatever.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So much better.
And I think that Alex is like, yeah, getting convicted is way fucking better.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what should have happened in 2020 should have happened in 2016.
And then they wouldn't have all lost their minds.
Because it happened in 2020 after they had already flown their flag upside down, metaphorically speaking, with the election of Trump.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
Then they lost their minds.
And then after 2020 happened, they couldn't control themselves.
Then they all get sued.
All that stuff horrible happened.
If it happens in 2016, they're like, ah, oh, no.
dan friesen
I think a slimmer group, a slimmer margin of the population loses their mind.
But there is still, I think, I still think we got a problem.
jordan holmes
Our minds are not great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I just decided that fuck, I don't care.
We have to move on.
jordan holmes
Gotta go.
dan friesen
So we're jumping to the 31st now.
Okay.
We're jumping to Friday.
owen shroyer
All right.
dan friesen
And I thought I was going to be able to give this episode short shrift, too.
Okay.
Because of Saturday.
Because Alex is, like I said, he's on air pretty much the whole day.
jordan holmes
The whole day.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, this episode needed to be covered.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
We're doing 800 clips.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
Not since Endgame.
All right.
dan friesen
This is not going to be nine hours, but there is a part of me that is worried.
So we start off on the 31st.
And most of this show is about Alex being like, shit, there's going to be false flags.
jordan holmes
There is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Because Trump got convicted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We need to really lay some groundwork here about how there's going to be false flags.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
The show trial verdict has completely blown up in the Democrat deep state's fish.
But everybody getting so excited needs to listen to me and listen real good.
I've been telling you for years.
They're going to stage big false flag attacks in the lead up to the election and blame Trump supporters.
And I came out while the verdict was still being read and I said, you watch, they're going to go call the internet and anonymous posters and say, look, the Republicans are getting ready to start shooting and killing Democrats.
J6 2.0 is here.
And if you don't think the feds aren't planning another J6 or another Whitmer kidnapping type deal they got caught in, you aren't paying attention.
dan friesen
Before the conviction even happened, Chase was telling Alex about how his friends were talking like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't the people scraping the internet to try and find random Trump supporters talking about violence.
That's what Alex is trying to present because I think on some level he knows that the temperature is high.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that some of the people who are in his side of the fence might be interested in doing some violence, like Chase's friends.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I want to, I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and say that I think they're talking shit.
jordan holmes
I think they're talking a big game because I think these are the people who are complaining about judges' instructions to a jury.
I don't think these people have it in them.
I don't think they have the guts.
dan friesen
I think, you know, we hope there's always a fear, you know, there's always like a possibility and a potential because things do happen.
And, you know, there are people who do carry out violence.
And that is, that is awful.
And Alex is preparing for that to be able to deny it.
Sure.
He's sending out the message that if people, you know, maybe do some stuff, we're going to pretend it's a false flag.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, but it's so weird for that to be squarely on Alex's side.
You know, like, nobody's like, oh, the left is gearing up for what could happen if they, you know, like I said, if he gets six months probation, it's like, yeah, that should be, people should, comparatively speaking, if we live there, people should be like, oh, the left is going to go crazy over this.
dan friesen
But it's saying that too.
jordan holmes
Your liberal moms are going to be like, ooh, yeah, exactly.
It should be that.
dan friesen
Alex is predicting it in every direction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
So Trump is going to win despite cheating.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But there's bad news.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
World War III is still probably happening.
jordan holmes
Well, then I don't need to worry about Trump so much.
dan friesen
Right.
And then you also got to worry about Soros.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
If everybody wants to get so excited and happy, and oh, it's backfiring, and the numbers already show it.
And Trump is going to win in a landslide despite the fraud.
You can override that with a massive landslide.
The numbers are clear.
But Tucker Carlson nailed it.
He said, anyone supporting this verdict and anyone not supporting President Trump is an enemy of America and your family.
And you're in danger of World War III and total enslavement in a dictatorship.
Now, that's what's going on.
We are already under a coup.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I was just on Eric Bowling's show talking about this with him this morning.
I think it airs tonight.
It's going down.
Soros is just the CIA front.
When you hear Soros, it's CIA, has gotten control of almost all the cities and populous counties and towns, over a thousand of them.
They've got 18 of the state attorney generals totally on his payroll, trained by him and his special college he has.
They're fellows of the Soros group.
A couple others are semi.
But 18's the number.
They've got over a thousand DAs and county attorneys.
They've got a lot of the police chiefs.
The ADL does the training of the Southern Property Law Center.
And they're not just defunding the police and releasing violent criminals to destabilize things.
That's a small part of the equation.
It's then the persecution of populists and conservatives and nationalists.
And just right down the line, if you're a victim and you're white, you don't get any support.
If you're a black criminal or Hispanic criminal, they let you go.
dan friesen
Oh, so that's what you meant by populist, conservative, and nationalists.
Okay, I got you.
I thought that was what you were saying.
That's what you're saying.
jordan holmes
It is nice of him to remind us all that populist, conservative, and nationalist are white.
dan friesen
That's what he's coding in the way that he's speaking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, fun fact, Eric Bowling maybe got fired, maybe left Newsmax right after this.
alex jones
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
He had Alex on.
Yes.
alex jones
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think it was today's Sunday.
Yeah.
It was yesterday.
So I believe that he got the axe or left Newsmax.
I'm not sure exactly the circumstances of that.
Sure.
Also, Eric Bowling is the guy who used to be one of the hosts of Fox's The Five, who wanted to fight Alex on a random street corner in New York that we covered on one of our tour episodes.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
They patched that up.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why?
Why can't they just fight it out?
Why?
You know what?
That's it.
I will accept no conservative ideology until it is Thunderdome approved.
If you guys want to fight, fuck you.
Fight.
All right?
Thunderdome.
dan friesen
No, they want to make peace and then leave Newsmax.
No!
So there's going to be a lot of terror attacks.
There's going to be a lot of false flags.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
A lot?
It seems easier to find out that they're a false flag if you have a lot of them.
dan friesen
There's going to be like a hundred of them.
jordan holmes
Okay, but usually you want to keep it like low.
So the fewer, again, the fewer number of people involved in any given thing.
dan friesen
This is going to be like the biggest group.
jordan holmes
So not one person is going to reveal that these are false flags from this massive hundreds of people.
dan friesen
It's going to be the widest conspiracy you've ever seen in your life.
jordan holmes
So of 115 planned false flags, not one of those guys is going to get like cold feet and be like, I don't think I want to be a suicide bomber today.
Nope.
dan friesen
Oh, probably not.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
We're in the third quarter and we are seven points ahead.
And we have the ball at the 50-yard line in its first tarot.
But in the fourth quarter that we're now entering, in the next 15 days, and then the craziness that comes after that, ahead of the inauguration, the 79 Days of Hell Part 2.
I told you hell was coming.
Oh, 79 Days of Hell predicting all that.
In the lead up, and they could detonate a bomb tomorrow.
They could truck bomb next week.
They could shoot up a black college or attack a black grocery store or a black church or a string of synagogues.
The globalists have got mentally ill people wound up ready that when they get the green light, they'll activate them to go carry out attacks.
But those are usually not very well coordinated and aren't big enough.
So I'm predicting that international crime syndicates working for the globalists are going to hit targets around the country.
And I'm predicting it's going to be bigger in the aggregate than 9-11.
I'm not saying the one of them will be bigger than 9-11.
I'm saying I'm predicting hundreds of terror attacks are going to be conducted inside the United States and attributed to Trump supporters.
dan friesen
All I hear there is just like, I'm really worried about what my friends are going to do.
jordan holmes
It is almost borderline like, hey, my friends are saying we should do this.
But how about what if we get international crime syndicates involved?
All right.
Fellas, I know you want to like, oh, sure, a black synagogue, whatever.
Blow one up.
That's not big enough.
We got to get the mafia in on this.
dan friesen
We got to look at this from a leaderless splinter resistance kind of model.
jordan holmes
But with a Don.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, we can pretend that there's an international crime syndicate behind it.
This is the way that we will evade having to take responsibility for the racist violence that we want to commit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all I hear, basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't predict false flags much.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At least not big stuff.
And now we should smash cut to him saying, I don't predict this stuff very often frequently in the past.
Yeah.
But Alex says that he doesn't predict these kinds of things much.
And then that leads him into a weird story.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I've only done this a few other times.
Like I said back in 2001, I said, call the White House and tell them we know they're going to fly buildings in the World Trade Center and blame it on their CIS at Bin Laden.
I've seen the pre-programming, all the stuff that was going on.
It was obvious.
jordan holmes
What a thing to add to your lore.
alex jones
Do you think I want to just sit there and give out the White House switchboard on my syndicated radio show and on my local TV show?
And they got reportedly thousands of calls.
You think I want to mess with the New World Order?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
I'd already had them physically send people to attack me once before when the Clintons were in.
Good thing I was young and still tough as hell because I beat the living hell out of those guys.
They broke my nose and stuff.
They're just hitting me in the side, the kidneys, and hit me in the head.
It hit me pretty hard, but it just pissed me off, broke my nose.
They stood back with a blood spraying out like it was going to do something.
I just was like, I'm going to hurt you bad.
Sorry, I'm going to have a little flashback of enjoyment there.
I remember getting my knee up because they were trying to hold me, and I just slammed my knee right in that guy's ribs, and I heard him crack.
He started crying.
And I just punched him right in the nose and just smashed his nose almost completely off his face.
Anyway, sorry.
I'm sorry, folks.
I'm a little emotional right now.
I have some more memories.
Very good memory, though.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
So, McClimbing in that minivan, bleeding us running like a bunch of little cowards.
Oh, I had a gun in my pocket, too.
Kind of blasting them, but I didn't do that.
I beat the living hell out of them.
Sorry.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
I assume those memories are just.
I'm not a sadistic person unless it's bullies attacking me.
And I just started having some pleasure, some feelings of victory and overcoming and dominance.
And I'm sorry.
I apologize.
I'm going to quit right there.
dan friesen
Hey, forgive you, man.
What another amazing thing to add to your lore.
jordan holmes
What a fucking cartoon character.
That is so over-the-top, like Tex Avery wouldn't involve the president set to beat him up.
dan friesen
To beat him, to rough him up.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Before he was even really relevant at all.
jordan holmes
Nah.
Well, I mean, Clinton, the Clintons, both, they're also a little psychic.
They're actually several thousand years old along with Alex.
dan friesen
He went to a witch church.
jordan holmes
That's right.
Yeah.
So they can see, they kind of knew that this battle was going to last a long time.
So they were trying to kill him in his income.
dan friesen
Get ahead start.
jordan holmes
Totally.
But didn't work.
dan friesen
But not kill him.
Sure.
And then get your henchmen beaten up and then they just never.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess they disappear.
dan friesen
Larry Nichols was supposed to be like a murderer for the Clintons.
I thought they killed people.
No, but they punched Alex a couple times and then got their ribs broken.
jordan holmes
They were going to rough him up a little bit, teach him a lesson, but then they were like, oh, you hit us.
dan friesen
Oh, no, you're too good at fighting.
jordan holmes
I never would have seen this part coming, seeing as how we're professional assassins for the political presidents.
Yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
Fucking so dumb.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
All right.
So Alex is pretty convinced there's going to be a false flag at a black church.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that's because he recognizes that his audience.
jordan holmes
He's all a bunch of Dylan Roofs.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So I would guess they've got a German team, which is the same as the Ukrainians now, a NATO teams that, again, are going to have a mentally ill, drugged up white MAGA person who's shot their mouth off.
That person will be kept in the van, drugged.
They'll make sure all the cameras are turned off.
They'll park somewhere like a church loading dock or something where they can make sure there's no cameras.
That's their concern with all the cameras today.
And then they're going to go in and with mask on, and they're going to kill as many black people as they can.
When it's a professional team, they could kill the church of 300, 400 black folks.
They'll kill 100 of them.
And then throw some hand grenades in to confuse the whole thing.
This is just one type scenario.
That's the one I think.
That's probably one of those.
They probably got the vans loaded, the trips ready.
I mean, Biden, people control Biden, give the order, they'll roll out Sunday to your black church.
So they're coming.
Now, they're going to go in there and just spray women and children saying, hail Trump.
And then they'll just go and take the guy that's kind of halfway waking up.
And then they'll just throw him in there.
And then that's it.
And then you'll hear that Trump supporter went and killed 100 black people.
dan friesen
It's very detailed.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't want to call it necessarily a fantasy, but like his imagination of.
I mean, there's almost instructions in that.
jordan holmes
Feels very.
dan friesen
Want to park at the loading dock because there's no cameras over there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you doing?
I mean, it's not unlike we're in the SWAT van and we're doing a no-knock warrant, is what he's describing, right?
Is that what's happening?
dan friesen
It's upsetting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very upsetting.
I don't like it.
So, the people, not sure who exactly this is, but you know, they, the globalists, okay, the bankruptcy court.
Oh, everybody's trying to take Alex off air.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
They're trying to get that's what this is all about.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Alex.
alex jones
Yes.
jordan holmes
Right.
I've got to remember that.
dan friesen
They're trying to take him off air.
And they're going to do that by posting fake stories about him.
jordan holmes
That's.
alex jones
So we're 157 days out from the election.
And they are moving as fast as they can to take us off the air while putting out fake headlines like this in the Associated Press that I'm going to show you.
Sandy Hook families offer to settle Alex Jones' $1.5 billion legal debt for a minimum of $85 million.
Now, I've not made $50 million myself in 30 years on air.
Okay.
dan friesen
They weren't asking for 80 million and a lump sum, you dumb dumps.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
Also, that AP headline that he's reading was published on November 27th, 2023.
It's over six months old, but Alex is trying to present it as something current because he needs to give this presentation that everyone's trying to take him off air.
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
It can't be a six-month-old headline, and now they've got plans for attacking.
dan friesen
And things have gone evolved since this point in November.
Yeah, yeah.
That circumstance isn't accurate anymore, but Alex is presenting it as if the headline is current.
So when I'm listening to this, you know, it's like, okay, Trump was convicted.
Fuck, Alex is obsessed with false flags.
Oh, man, at least, you know, I'll have a time to catch my breath on Saturday.
Sure.
At least, you know, I'll have a little bit of a buffer time.
jordan holmes
Just a quick show on Saturday.
Yeah.
It doesn't need to be a whole thing.
dan friesen
But then Alex says this.
alex jones
And I am coming in tomorrow.
At 10 a.m., we go live.
With Bilderberg coverage, we should probably get not just one of the top Bilderberg experts on Daniel Eslin, who is on with us.
You should also get Charlie Skelton's been wanting to come on.
And I said, yeah, just come on once you're at the conference.
It's get intel.
It's in Madrid.
And so live at 10 a.m. tomorrow, and we'll probably go three hours.
I'll cover a bunch of news as well.
But 10 a.m. Central Standard Time.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The Alex Jones show tomorrow will be streamed at Infowars.com forward slash show, Bandau Video, and on X and any radio and TV stations that want to be able to pick that up.
dan friesen
None.
I heard this and I was like, well, I'm guessing I'm going to tune in.
See Alex go back to his roots and talk Bilderberg.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is going to be exciting.
jordan holmes
I think that's great.
I think it's a good time for it.
I think it's probably best for him.
You know, like if we think about it this way, right?
He keeps saying there's 157 days until the election and all that stuff.
We can just cicada this.
unidentified
Nothing's really, you know, let's just all take a long nap.
jordan holmes
It's going to be a month before sentencing.
dan friesen
Let's just sleep it off.
And while we're in that little down period or whatever, do some of the classics.
I like the idea of like, we're going to obsess about who drove into Bilderberg.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
This is the route.
Perfect.
This is where we came from.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And I was excited.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, we are going to talk quite a bit about Saturday.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're not going to talk at all about this.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
So let's go back to the beginning of the show.
So his plan, start at 10 a.m., go for a few hours.
If I recall, you said he was on the air for most of the day.
dan friesen
I think he got off air a little bit after six.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
unidentified
Probably six plus hours of all of it.
dan friesen
Well, here's the part.
I didn't listen to it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
The Bilderberg part.
jordan holmes
It's too boring.
dan friesen
You did cover that, but like, I can't.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
I have only one Cuban.
I don't have time.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I thought, like, okay, we got this Saturday stuff.
We can just cut bait on the 31st here.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But we can't.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Because shit goes crazy.
He has Mario Nathal and Nick Sortor on.
jordan holmes
I've never heard of those two people before.
dan friesen
Two guys who run a Twitter space that's fairly popular.
They were the ones who hosted the one that Alex talked to Elon Musk on.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The fake Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so, like, they're pretty popular in Twitter space.
And they're in town for a crypto conference.
Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
I find them very uninteresting.
jordan holmes
What a loserville.
dan friesen
So we're not going to talk much about that.
But then there are some other guests.
Nick Fuentes comes on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And also, Alex discusses the chicken fried steak incident.
jordan holmes
Again.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Forever.
dan friesen
But there's more details, Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And one of these details really, I don't know if we knew this before, but I heard it as if it was totally new.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And it was God.
First, it was like a tap on the shoulder saying, are you eating a chicken fried steak drinking iced tea?
I'm saying, God, I want to fight evil.
I want to stand against evil.
I want to help people.
Just please help me be a good person.
Give me a sermon.
I just love you.
I just want to be as effective as I can.
And I just need your guidance.
And it was like, oh, you want to do that?
And it was like all this data at once of, are you willing to go through the pain and the persecution and the system coming after you?
Yes.
Well, here's an idea of what it's going to be like.
And you just get all these thousands of possible futures and permutations and things, depending on actions people take.
And you understand these different scenarios.
And yes.
And it was like, all right, so you're making that decision right now.
All right, well, say you're making it.
I'm making that decision.
And that was like an angel or something.
It was a presence.
And the hair on the back of my neck was standing up.
And all of a sudden, it was like, and it was like, I was in another dimension.
It was like, oh, I wouldn't call it fear, but it's like standing at the edge of the Grand Canyon and wind's blowing at your back.
You're about to fall.
I was like, oh, wow.
And it was like, now, here is the download.
steve bannon
Boom.
alex jones
Start crying.
Guys sitting there mopping, looking at me like, is this got me crazy?
And I'm just for like 30 minutes.
And then after that, I was another person, folks.
dan friesen
Wow.
So for 30 minutes, you're in this person's restaurant going, why didn't they call the police or call an ambulance?
Like, you seem like you're in distress the way Alex is describing this.
That's a poorly run business if they didn't worry about it being dead.
jordan holmes
I'm going to enter this new version of the story into my actually Alex worships the devil thing because what character famously waits for people to suddenly say aloud what it is they deepest desire, right?
Then appears, then forces them to reiterate their agreement of the agreement we are currently making.
Then immediately following that gives you a massive, didn't expect this to happen.
dan friesen
World twist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
There's one dude that sounds like I think Alex, seriously, I think Alex has mistaken all of the Bible for just Faust.
dan friesen
I think it's possible we're talking food poisoning or something.
jordan holmes
That's possible too.
dan friesen
I'm trying to keep this in the terrestrial realm.
Trying to keep this in a territory that you can understand.
jordan holmes
You're trying to stay at the stake level.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And for me, I'm so worried about letting someone be in that state for half an hour.
unidentified
That to me is such a weird part of the story.
jordan holmes
Especially whenever he's talking to God in this story.
Why is God always so surprised?
That seems like the one thing he should be well aware of at all times.
Everything.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it kind of has to be.
That's the idea.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As opposed to him being like, oh, so you want that stuff, huh?
How about that?
But then one guy.
dan friesen
God must allow for free will.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's the one thing that God cannot know is what decision you'll make.
jordan holmes
Sure, but he doesn't have to be catty about it.
dan friesen
That's true.
There's one thing that God does know very well, though.
And that is what time it is.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
As we know, he tells Alex what time it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
You look up, it's 3:45.
Oh my God, it is.
dan friesen
Alex expounds on this a little bit.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
alex jones
Now I duplicate this or how I would only when God decides to do it.
But it used to happen a few times a year.
Now it happens like every week.
It happened like four times a month ago in one week where God says, get up.
And I get up.
It's like, and it doesn't happen all the time.
I know what's going on.
Get up.
I'm like, you want me to get up and go to my phone or go in the kitchen?
Look at the clock.
Yeah.
Go in the bathroom where the phone is.
I don't sleep by it.
I get up.
He goes, it's going to be 4 a.m.
Hurry up because it's going to flip over to 401 if we don't.
Okay.
And I'm like, I got a piss really bad too.
I flip the phone over 4 a.m.
And God goes, now you're thinking that's just a coincidence.
It's not.
It's not.
You have some super time understanding.
Go ahead and take your piss.
Now, count down.
It's at 15 seconds now.
It's going to flip to 401 in 50 seconds.
Okay.
13, 12.
Get it right.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
alex jones
Count too fast, gang.
8, 7, 6, 4, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 401.
It's like, now, I know you know I'm real, and I've already done all this, but now you, I'm telling you this because big stuff's coming, and you don't always follow what I tell you to do.
I need you to do what I tell you immediately when I tell you.
Do you understand?
I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I literally just go back in the bedroom, just get down on my knees for an hour.
Yes, I got it.
I'm trying here.
And God's like, and you've done better not drinking, but you still drink some.
I cannot put this happening.
In to you when you're drinking, it's lowering your energy resonance, which it literally does.
So you've got to stop it.
Because you get a clear signal in there.
I mean, this is awesome, people.
unidentified
I've literally got God telling me what time it is.
dan friesen
I just don't even know what to do.
jordan holmes
I don't really know what to say to that.
The man's got God telling him what time it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
God seems to be doing a little bit of a ta-da kind of thing.
jordan holmes
It does feel like, eh, eh?
You get it?
I can tell you what time it is.
dan friesen
That's what time it is.
jordan holmes
Is that what we're doing here?
dan friesen
Now, stop drinking.
Because I can't tell you what time it is when you're drunk.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying, I really like, like, I will, I'll share this with you.
I'm really into close-up magic.
It's really cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, me too.
jordan holmes
It's really cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, there's that magic theater here in Chicago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
I've been there a couple times.
And yeah, it's really fun in the lobby.
At the bar, the bartender does magic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, everybody's got their own little tricks that they throw out at you.
dan friesen
It's great.
The show is too expensive.
I haven't gone.
But if you're at the bar, the guy will do the magic.
jordan holmes
We went to, my wife and I, we went to see the show.
It was pretty good.
They even had a local middler, like somebody who is, somebody who is busking art, straight up art and out in the out on the street, coming in, doing a guest.
dan friesen
It was great.
jordan holmes
It was fantastic.
All of which is to say that there's like forces, you know, like the magicians can kind of like psychologically impress upon you the idea of you being like, oh, it is, my card is the Queen of Spain, you know, because they only showed you one card.
That kind of thing.
All of which is far more impressive than looking at my phone to see what time it is.
dan friesen
It is.
And honestly, like there's a lot more dialogue going on here than I usually imagine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of talk about how I got to take a piss.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Count.
jordan holmes
Go ahead and take your piss.
I do appreciate a God that's like, hey, go on, finish your business.
dan friesen
I'll tell you the time after you pee.
jordan holmes
I could have.
I could have woken you up or just sent you there.
Any number of times.
dan friesen
Now, you think this is a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
Also, it implies that Alex has to have perfect timing with his countdown.
So that is another power that he must have.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
He can correctly suss out the exact length of a second.
dan friesen
And I will say with his delivery of this is awesome.
God tells me what time it is.
That is good timing.
jordan holmes
It is good delivery.
No, it was great delivery.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, as far as the thing that a crazy person would say, nailed it.
dan friesen
So anyway, if you're like a low-level Christian.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You don't experience stuff like this.
jordan holmes
Jesus was super huge on making sure everybody knew there was a hierarchy of people who believed.
That was his biggest thing.
At the bottom?
Yeah.
dan friesen
You just kind of feel love.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
When he said the meek will inherit the earth, he was more like, you guys stay down below in the mud.
Yeah.
dan friesen
You dumb-dumb stuff.
jordan holmes
You're not going to be up there.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I want people to eventually go on missions for you.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
alex jones
I'm like a cruise missile that's got God's GPS, and God's telling me, hey, I need you to get your act completely square because I got orders for you, buddy.
You signed up for this.
This is dangerous.
You better get your ass in gear.
It's not like for a baby Christian, the Holy Spirit, where you cry and it feels so good.
And all that's the beginning of it.
Once you get into missions with God, it is, it is, it is loving, it is direct, and it's, you really want them to get your family, you really want him to kill billions of people?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
I know you don't want this to happen.
Well, then you need to get your ass in gear.
And that's why I'm telling you the stories because this is all true on my soul.
dan friesen
Alex is in new game plus of life.
jordan holmes
I mean, geek.
This is what it's like.
unidentified
Oh, baby Christians with your, oh, life is good.
dan friesen
Shut up.
jordan holmes
Oh, your religion's bullshit.
Not whenever you're going on missions.
dan friesen
Right.
When God tells you what time it is.
I don't know, but I have been thinking about, like, I do think that Alex might be heretical.
jordan holmes
Like, no, absolutely.
dan friesen
Honestly, I've been thinking about, like, I'm not particularly religious myself.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, I have, obviously, we've talked about this.
I'm more accepting of it and enjoying of it than you, for sure.
But, like, I wouldn't brand myself as a religious person.
I try to imagine, like, if I was, what would I think about that?
I think that would be, like, blasphemous.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that what he's doing is actually like really bad on a religious level.
jordan holmes
I would say very seriously, deadly seriously, that it has only been within the past 75 years that you would be allowed to say things like this in public without being killed.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I think even shorter period of time, you'd be able to say things like this in public without someone like very concerned and maybe putting you in the middle of the day.
jordan holmes
Oh, I mean, can you imagine in the 50s?
Can you imagine in the 50s somebody saying like, because for all the, for all the, like, what would I, what, the evangelical kind of lunacy going on, at no point in time were they like, all right, let's straight up get into the Charlie's Angels version of the Bible here.
dan friesen
It's, yeah, it's troubling.
It's a little upsetting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also upsetting is Nick Fuentes being on.
jordan holmes
Oh, wow.
dan friesen
They kind of just have a fine conversation and it's a little bit boring.
Um, uh, just about like there's a lot of shit going on in the world, a lot of stuff.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Uh, we just covered Nick being on, so I'm not going to dwell on this too much, but there's one clip that I wanted to play, and I think it's fascinating because Alex corrects himself about something.
And I'm not saying he corrects himself to the right version of something, but he changes a version of one of his narratives because he knows that Nick likes Nazis.
This is amazing.
alex jones
Okay, they're a bunch of lawyers, not even military leaders now.
They're all sitting in rooms acting tough.
Well, we'll just bomb the Russians.
Yeah, that'll show them.
Oh, yeah, that'll really show the Russians, folks.
90% of the Brits were anti-war until Churchill bombed German cities to manipulate Hitler to bomb British cities, and they went 99% pro-war.
I mean, so I'm asking the question.
You're right, it's arrogance, it's insanity.
unidentified
It is.
michael flynn
It's that classic hubris.
dan friesen
I've heard Alex say this a hundred times, and it's always the British people were opposed to the war until Germany bombed them.
Yep.
And that made them be more for the war.
I've heard it a bunch of times, not that Churchill bombed Germany to trick Germany into bombing England.
That's nonsense.
He said that because Nick likes Hitler.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's cutting him off at the path.
So Nick wouldn't be like, actually, the reason that Hitler did that, he was like, let's just skip past this part.
dan friesen
He's giving Nazi concessions.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Things are headed in a good direction.
Yeah.
I think everybody agrees that Neville Chamberlain was right.
I think going back in time, appeasement is the way to go.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wait for Saturday.
jordan holmes
I think it's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, look, don't care too much about Nick Fuentes.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Nick Sortor and Mario Nafal.
I don't really care too much.
But then Alex has another guest.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is a guest who, when you hear his name, your ears perk up.
Sure.
It's not Sylvester Stallone.
jordan holmes
Ron Paul.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Rand Paul.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Paul Ayn Rand.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm trying to think of a way to clue you in on this.
It's Eddie Bravo.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So Eddie Bravo is on.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Noted Flat Earther.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Alex has him on and immediately is like just disrespectful as shit about Flat Earth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's very refreshing in a strange way.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
So we hear me.
Yeah, that big beautiful club right there.
eddie bravo
I can't believe you think that's real.
unidentified
Oh, God.
alex jones
I can't believe it.
Listen, I love you when you come to town.
I love you to death.
And I love challenging the system.
But Eddie, Trump has been convicted of this fraud.
They're trying to have World War III.
They're announcing they're going to start bombing Russia with U.S. weapons.
And all I said this morning is: I said, you're coming in.
Can you at least talk a little bit about Trump, the politics, the world, and then we can talk about, you know, the Easter Bunny stuff.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I'm being mean.
No, Eddie wants to tell you the big secret: the world's flat.
And he's got, he's got Flat Earth Dave.
He's got Flat Earth Dave, folks.
One of the biggest Flat Earthers here with us, Dave Weiss, Flat EarthDave.com.
So fine, just tell us, tell the big secret.
It's all flat.
I really beat him.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, first of all, Alex started this.
jordan holmes
You didn't have to invite him on your show.
dan friesen
Especially not with Flat Earth Dave.
jordan holmes
Didn't have to.
dan friesen
Second, you don't have to say, oh, look at that great, beautiful globe coming in from break and then be like, do we have to talk about Flat Earth?
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're being an asshole.
jordan holmes
You're doing it.
dan friesen
But, you know, I guess it's kind of like in what appears to be their friendship.
So it's not like, it's not the most disrespectful thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It would be if he wasn't friends with Eddie.
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
He's right.
jordan holmes
He is being mean.
I am going to be very honest with you.
Right now, I am placed, like, my view of the dynamics of this scenario is very much Job of the Hutts Palace, right?
Like, where the rank core is directly beneath Ajibravo's feet.
Like, and Alex is both himself and salacious crumb, just like laughing at his own joke.
Who's flat Earth Dave?
Flat Earth Dave is the rancor.
He's going to eat us all.
That's what's going to happen here.
dan friesen
So, there is an interesting dynamic that runs throughout this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is that Alex pretty much rebuts every point that Eddie brings up, but also they rebut his rebuttals in a way that gets us nowhere.
So it's a tragic waste of time.
jordan holmes
All right.
So, somebody who is knowledgeable enough about this world to know that the globe is the default.
Yes.
Okay.
But not knowledgeable enough to defend the globe.
dan friesen
No, I think he does.
It's just that, like, when you're dealing with people like Flat Earth Dave and Eddie Bravo, they're going to have rebuttals to your reality.
jordan holmes
Well, they've heard about the globe before, obviously.
dan friesen
They've done these argument paths.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now, there's one point where I think Alex was a little bit weak.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is this next clip.
david weiss
All right.
No, I don't know what the moon is.
I know that it's not what they tell us.
alex jones
But if you like, well, I mean, okay, we'll get to that.
Can you give me your take on Trump and nuclear war?
Let me ask.
Hold on, hold on.
Nuclear weapons don't exist.
Did we land on the moon?
eddie bravo
Yes or no?
That's a no.
alex jones
I mean, we're showing some fake stuff.
eddie bravo
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
You think we landed on the moon?
alex jones
For real.
eddie bravo
Be honest.
alex jones
You think we landed on a motherfucker?
So you think Starlink's fake?
eddie bravo
What's that?
david weiss
I can prove it's fake.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I can prove it's fake.
dan friesen
Flat Earth Dave.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starlink or the moon?
dan friesen
The Starlink is what he thinks he can prove is fake.
And I think that Alex is really weak in that moment when he won't just emphatically say we did land on the moon.
I think we saw some fake stuff.
Come on, man.
Dude, you just gave Eddie like that.
Is all the confidence he needs to take this entire interview off the rails?
jordan holmes
What's crazy about this now is I feel like we should just all not give a shit about whether we did or did not land on the moon, because where we are now is so fucking, we got it, we got space telescopes, we got shit just floating out there that looks into the past but like way far, but it's all fake because NASA's lying to you.
We can see, like three million years after the Big Bang, like right there, we can use a telescope to see, because light takes a long time, we don't need to.
Who cares?
If we landed on the moon right, that's a billion, billion billion years ago sure yeah, so we're on a frozen lake of some sort, all right, i'm listening, now i'm listening.
dan friesen
The earth is flat okay, and then, past the boundaries of like, the south pole, sure and shit yeah, there are more worlds that are also flat, all right, and that's the big secret that's being kept Caps.
jordan holmes
So we can kind of like daisy chain our way around the universe.
dan friesen
I mean, we could if they'd let us, but they won't.
jordan holmes
Now, that's that's the delivery and timing of a man for whom God tells him the time.
dan friesen
So there's one thing that I think.
I mean, Alex and I every now and again agree on something.
Sure.
And that happens in this episode.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is that Flat Earth Dave sucks.
jordan holmes
That is fair.
That is fair.
He really does not like Flat Earth Day, but not hard.
dan friesen
Not hard.
So they get into a conversation about nukes not being real.
Because that's another thing that Eddie believes.
jordan holmes
I mean, you can't have nukes if you don't have a globe.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
That's just fact.
dan friesen
Yes.
And so that is a tenet of their belief system.
alex jones
Okay.
I know.
I mean, I'm just totally focused on Trump being indicted or convicted and World War III.
But let me guess, there's no nuclear weapons, right, Eddie?
eddie bravo
Absolutely not.
david weiss
100%.
alex jones
I've heard this before.
I love that seriously.
Okay, so there's no nuclear weapons.
david weiss
That's meant for fear.
It's meant for control.
This is all.
alex jones
Well, there's no technology is there?
david weiss
Oh, there's technology.
There's big bombs.
They stack TNT at ground zero in Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
There's video of troops stacking TNT at ground zero.
alex jones
Wow, the U.S. had invaded Japan and did that.
Wow.
unidentified
Pretty exciting.
david weiss
War is a theater.
That's why they call it the theater of war.
They're all working together.
There may be some rogue states and some stuff going on, but all of this is mine.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I'm yet challenging and questioning everything.
david weiss
Sure.
alex jones
But, I mean, so the Trump adoptment spec too?
david weiss
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think they're really going after him.
I think if Trump gets in office, that their plans might be.
alex jones
But everything else is fake.
Everything's a theater.
How can we?
david weiss
No, no, no, no.
eddie bravo
I don't know nothing, Alex.
alex jones
Come on.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
I love it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
alex jones
There's no nuclear weapons.
eddie bravo
There's no satellites.
I love how you're playing devil's advocate to make sure that you're not labeled as a flat earther.
alex jones
No, I don't.
I'm not being, I don't give a shit how I'm labeled.
jordan holmes
I like that there is something that could turn Alex into me going, oh my God.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And kind of bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
I give a shit however.
I don't care even if the Earth is flat.
dan friesen
I'm not playing Devil's Advocate with you.
jordan holmes
This is stupid.
That is great.
But I think you could just not have him on.
dan friesen
I think the reason, though, is that Eddie Bravo is a celebrity and he's close to Rogan and Alex doesn't want to alienate somebody who is close to Rogan.
And so he humors Eddie about the flat earth stuff pretty regularly.
And so when Eddie comes on and Alex is doing this, he probably thinks that it's playing Devil's Advocate, which is what a lot of bigots can do if Alex ever pushes back on their stuff.
It's like when he gets calls that are people like, we get the globalists of the Jews and you start saying it because you want to keep up appearances and stuff.
That's what Eddie thinks, but with Flat Earth.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's why Alex can get away with apologizing to Humdi Ula guy, you know, like, oh, I'm so sorry about that.
He's not sorry.
He's not going to change anything.
He doesn't care.
And everybody who sees it is going to be like, well, yeah, he has to do that to avoid losing $1.5 billion.
dan friesen
It's the excuse that they all make to maintain their own image of who he is.
And that's pretty cool.
jordan holmes
It's great to lie.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Eddie believes that Trump is also a secret flat earther.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
Okay.
alex jones
Eddie, give us your flat Earth hypothesis.
unidentified
I think Trump is a flat earther secretly.
eddie bravo
How about that?
And so is Donald Trump Jr.
alex jones
I think the Earth is actually drawn from Europe.
david weiss
Obama knows.
Obama said talked about flat Earth eight times during his president.
alex jones
Tell me about it.
david weiss
In his speeches, he says, we don't have time for a meeting of the Flat Earth Society because that's where they want you to go.
That's where they strawman us.
eddie bravo
The Flat Earth Society is fake.
david weiss
Yeah, because they want you to go there because you go there, you spend five minutes there, you'll never look at Flat Earth again.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
david weiss
No flat earther believes any of that.
No flat earther believes there.
There it is right there.
eddie bravo
No flat earther believes that.
That's not earther believes that.
david weiss
Two fake models.
That's a heliocentric fake one.
alex jones
What do they believe?
david weiss
We believe that we are the foundation of the universe.
That's the best way we have it.
eddie bravo
Here, Alex, Alex, check this out.
Check this out.
alex jones
You got it going to break.
unidentified
I get it.
alex jones
All that matters is a flat Earth.
I understand.
It does.
It does the foundation of all these things.
That's the back of our arms.
It's like Juju, Juju, Joe.
david weiss
It's on the one that's quite.com.
Watch those videos and make up your own mind.
Don't believe anything.
alex jones
We got to get a break.
dan friesen
I do like that Flat Earth Dave is doing what Alex does to other people.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Yelling out his website and stuff.
That is a little bit fun.
jordan holmes
It is nice.
dan friesen
But just to give some clarity, when Alex said Juju Juju Ju, he was saying that in reference to something he had said earlier, which is that there's a lot of people like anti-Semites who are obsessed and every issue comes back to Jewish people.
And that's what he's accusing them of being like with Flat Earth.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
So I just wanted to make that clear in case.
jordan holmes
I mean, I will say this: all right?
They are right.
There can't be nuclear weapons if there's a flat Earth because it would require E equals MC squared to be correct, which would require an entire universe, which would require globes.
It all requires globes.
So if that is the case, all right, then yes, it is the only thing that they are that is really important right now because they're lying to us about everything.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But our phones shouldn't work.
Well, that's a big problem.
dan friesen
They deal with that.
jordan holmes
I'm sure they do.
I'm sure they do deal with that.
I have no doubt they deal with that.
dan friesen
And we would deal with it too.
jordan holmes
I'm sure we would.
dan friesen
But I have a clip.
It's three minutes long.
And I need to play it because I laughed out loud when I heard this.
Eddie and Flat Earth Dave keep insisting that Alex watch a trailer to a new documentary.
Oh, my God.
I tried to find this documentary.
I don't think it's out there.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It is a documentary about how all of our buildings are secretly older than they really are, and there was an old civilization that this has been built on top of.
harrison smith
Yes.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yes.
Now, I'm way in.
dan friesen
Alex loses his, like, he's just done.
jordan holmes
He's just done with this shit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But he does play at the trailer.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then mutters over it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So there's a new documentary out.
You're telling me about it.
Can I see the trailer?
Yeah, we'll play the trailer.
And then, meanwhile, I've got like family diaries from 200 years ago with, you know, describing fighting the Indians and all the stuff.
But you guys are saying it was like metropolis is right where we're at.
david weiss
And we repopulated the earth.
All of these cities we hear.
And then it's like West Earth.
We populated horses and buggies next to these giant buildings.
Horse.
You can find it at flat earthdave.com.
There's a big banner.
unidentified
Just click it.
david weiss
It will change your life.
alex jones
Okay, great.
And you guys just boom.
Like, it's just boom.
The United States was one giant city.
None of the family diaries are right.
None of the people passing information on.
There was nothing here.
Pure cities.
Pure cities.
david weiss
There's lots of truth.
alex jones
No, no, no, no.
None of these buildings were built.
They were built thousands of years ago.
Okay, so let's play the trailer.
unidentified
Here it is.
alex jones
Here we go.
unidentified
This is total Hibler.
There's a lot of architecture in the world today, on every continent, of buildings that are much, much larger than you would think people of our height would build.
Cities in America that look as though they were constructed in medieval Europe.
The outside's incredible.
david weiss
But the inside is built like a palace.
unidentified
I'm not sure any schools of architecture back then.
david weiss
They ought to be.
alex jones
We're at the pinnacle of our civilization now.
unidentified
This is the best it gets.
The best we've ever done.
alex jones
Look at the quality of these walls.
unidentified
Now you'll go through a neighborhood and every home looks the same.
How do we know we're going backwards?
david weiss
Everyone would be pissed.
unidentified
As an architect of 20 years, I like to look at a building as telling its own story.
matt bracken
You like to say that stones don't lie.
alex jones
Chenzophrenics are not making movies.
unidentified
It was built in a year.
matt bracken
The history that we've been told is a lie.
alex jones
I'm glad you rejected the system.
Make something so massive.
harrison smith
Was that building here longer?
unidentified
I feel like the beautiful towers.
matt bracken
What kind of technology was up there?
unidentified
These buildings were built by the prior civilization.
A beautiful, easy, graceful method of travel.
harrison smith
Flush down the drinks.
Nope, no more airships.
owen shroyer
And they have to lie to us about that.
They had to write the storybooks.
unidentified
We learned about the Chicago Great Fire.
There were fires in every major city burned to the ground.
It's impossible for any stone building to be burning down.
What's being counted?
alex jones
Oh, yeah, stone buildings never burn.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
It's not going to be a plus representation.
alex jones
So the paradox is the system's lying, so now we believe nothing.
No, no, the system is not lying.
owen shroyer
They're telling the truth.
alex jones
Stone buildings never burn.
Stone buildings are full of tapestries, full of wood girders.
They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie.
unidentified
What temperature do stone melt?
alex jones
When the girders collapse, it falls apart.
eddie bravo
The stone girders?
unidentified
So stone, there's wood burners in the stone melt with the fire.
jordan holmes
They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie.
Come on, Eddie.
I want that.
Oh, my God.
That's great.
dan friesen
That is a man who has been pushed.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what I like.
Here's what's great about it.
And it is like, it's why I get mad whenever like religious people look at another religion and they're like, oh, that's fucking stupid.
It's like, listen, buddy, it's all built on the same shit, right?
Like to get Alex so angry at him watching Endgame.
Like it is him listening to Endgame about something else.
It's just a Mad Libs version of Endgame and him being like, oh, this is so stupid.
It's like, what are you doing, man?
dan friesen
This shit is incompatible with the stuff that I use to stoke fear and create narratives.
And so I can't really go along with it.
And I can hear something really fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I can be like, that's really stupid.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And he could do that with his own stuff if he wanted to.
jordan holmes
He could.
That's the problem.
dan friesen
You know, you don't want to pierce the.
jordan holmes
You can't look at something exactly like what you're doing and call it stupid.
Otherwise, you're going to find yourself in trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think I might have gone to the wrong website.
I think I went to flatearthdave.tv instead of flatearthdave.com.
Maybe that documentary is on there, but I really wanted to watch it.
jordan holmes
I mean, amazing.
dan friesen
I had so much of Alex's content to take care of, and I still would have tried to fit that in.
Because that documentary looks amazing.
jordan holmes
Stone does.
I just love.
dan friesen
Stone buildings have never burned down.
jordan holmes
As an architect of 20 years.
You should not be in this documentary.
As an architect of 20 years, I no longer trust your architecture.
dan friesen
I think that was Art Vandalay.
Maybe.
Wasn't that George Costanza's alias?
jordan holmes
Is that what it is?
No, I don't remember.
I was never a Seinfeld guy.
unidentified
Okay.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we reached an emotional high on Friday.
jordan holmes
I can't believe we have not made it to Saturday.
dan friesen
We have not.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And there's a lot.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So, you know, Trump got convicted.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
We got worried about false flags.
We dwelled in this space for a while.
We talked to Nick Fuentes, got a little bit racisty.
And then Eddie Bravo came in, and we had one of the great interviews, I think, on this show's history.
Just stone buildings burned to the fucking ground.
jordan holmes
Stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
It's so good.
You could sum up.
I mean, I feel like that sums up so much of life.
Really?
Like as just a metaphor to use on all, hey, stone buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie.
Like, we should be saying that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so I was like, I'm kind of in for Bilderberg coming.
unidentified
Church.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm kind of in for this.
jordan holmes
I'm kind of excited.
dan friesen
You got me with the Eddie Bravo interview.
jordan holmes
You did.
dan friesen
So then we turn up on Saturday.
Uh-huh.
And nope.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
Well, it's not Bilderberg coverage immediately.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because something has happened since Alex was on air with Eddie Bravo.
jordan holmes
We got bad news.
dan friesen
Things are real good.
jordan holmes
Things are good.
dan friesen
Things went real bad.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
It is Saturday, June 1st, 2024.
When I tell you that this could be one of our last broadcasts, I want you to listen to me very carefully.
I have worked with the system.
I have been totally professional.
I have been completely truthful.
And by the grace of God and the fact that I am a Boy Scout when it comes to my life and finances and things, very straightforward person, like my family.
They had Justice Department investigations, criminal investigations, grand juries.
The Washington Post admitted what I've already been told.
Six different criminal investigations in the last five years.
And no grand jury indicted me for all the stuff they tried to cook up.
And I never made a big deal about it.
And I didn't tell you when the FBI and the Justice Department was subpoenaing me and putting me through all of these grand juries.
I just didn't talk about it on air, okay?
But what you've seen with Trump and them cooking stuff up on him, they've tried that with me.
And D.C. decided, and this came out in the Washington Post a year and a half ago, that special district to indict me.
And Merrick Garland said, no, this is too political.
This won't work.
So I was told that by the FBI.
And then it was in the news.
So that went on.
dan friesen
So that went on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Merrick Garland said, no, this shit's too hot.
We can't go anywhere.
jordan holmes
We can't.
We're not.
Listen, we're the FBI.
We don't cross boundaries.
Right.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right.
Trump is going to be prosecuted and all this, but not Alex.
That's too political.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I don't know.
I mean, I don't believe any of this, really, because he said all of these things in the past.
He has made a big deal out of these things, and they weren't true then, or at least there's no evidence of this then.
jordan holmes
I mean, I know, I don't know.
I think, didn't we have a situation where at one point it was like, maybe there's an actual criminal investigation?
dan friesen
There might have been, but there was one thing that went nowhere that Alex had talked about.
And then there was the subpoena over January 6th.
Right.
Those were the two things that we talked about when he was, these narratives were taking shape.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then I don't know.
If there's some evidence, then I'll change my position, but I haven't seen any evidence.
jordan holmes
I'm sure that somebody has sent something somewhere.
And somebody opened up a thing and maybe made some calls, and then they're not doing anything.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody gave Alex a call like, hey, you want to talk about that crime maybe you committed?
And Alex was like, no.
And they were like, yeah, me neither.
And that was it.
dan friesen
That very well may be true.
Yeah.
But that's not a grand jury.
jordan holmes
That's not a grand jury.
dan friesen
Right.
That's the level that Alex is saying this got to, where a grand jury indicted him and Merrick Garland said, no way.
jordan holmes
I do not believe that is how it works.
dan friesen
Seems, yeah, I don't know.
So, anyway.
jordan holmes
Like, wouldn't Merrick Garland know before the grand jury?
Like, he wouldn't be blindsided by the, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's somebody grand jury to Alex?
dan friesen
You'd think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
So, Alex, thankfully, doesn't do any crimes.
Sure.
And so, everything is totally fine.
jordan holmes
He never does any crimes.
dan friesen
Right.
But this still could be one of his last broadcasts ever.
Sure.
And things are very severe.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I was never scared about this because I, other than speeding, which I don't even do anymore, because I love to drive fast when nobody's out on the road.
I haven't had my car up to 100 miles an hour in three years.
I drive a speed limit now, like an old lady in the middle lane because I'm just going to do things absolutely 100% by the book.
If I have two drinks, I have somebody drive me.
I went out to dinner with Mario DeFall last night.
Just give you an idea of my mindset.
Went out to Eddie V's with him and his crew.
Rob Dew went with me.
I ordered iced tea.
They ordered drinks.
And I said, okay, I'll take a double vodka.
And I had a double vodka.
That was the first time I've been drinking it in a while.
And I drove home.
I mean, I had Rob drive me home and actually slept here at the office.
I said, Rob, take me.
Rob didn't drink.
And I said, just I'm going to go sleep on the couch.
And I'm going to explain why in a moment.
I slept here last night and then went home this morning to see my two daughters that still live with me.
And I'm just trying to give you a feel of this.
dan friesen
So Bilderberg can wait.
Alex slept on the couch at Infowars last night.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
So Alex went out for dinner.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fully intending not to drink.
dan friesen
Having an iced tea.
jordan holmes
And like all great alcoholics, immediately went to a double hard liquor.
dan friesen
Yeah, right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You know, I don't know.
Maybe he had one, maybe he had two.
And I have no idea.
jordan holmes
He didn't maybe drink that much, maybe.
But he did wind up sleeping at his office.
Right.
dan friesen
And we're going to find out why.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because there is a reason why.
Okay.
And this story is insane.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I truly don't believe it's real.
Okay.
But he was at the office.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We saw the security guard, and he was being a little bit weird.
jordan holmes
I already don't believe any of this.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Get ready to not believe even more.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
It would take two hours to explain just what happened in the last 24 hours.
So I'm just going to give you a quick basic summation, and I'm going to explain why I'm doing this.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
But the best way to start is to explain that we have a private security firm that's a local security firm, and we've had them for six years, seven years.
We've got, you know, during the day when people are here, you know, armed guards and the nights and armed guards as well.
They're great people and they do a good job and they're professional.
But I don't go around here all paranoid.
You know, I'm confident, but I pick up on things and I've learned to follow the Holy Spirit instincts.
So I noticed that a guard I've known for about a year, a nice guy, was acting kind of weird and running around the office and looking at me kind of weird.
And I called my lawyer and I said, is something going on?
And they said, yeah, we didn't want to upset you.
They're going to close InfoWars tonight at 9 p.m.
And they're going to change the locks.
And we learned about this yesterday, but we were trying to fix it.
And we just didn't want to give you a heart attack.
dan friesen
All right, man.
If my lawyer said that, the first thing I would say back is, you are fired.
You are so fired.
jordan holmes
That's.
dan friesen
So I'm supposed to believe this story, right?
And the security guard is told about this in advance, but the lawyer didn't want to upset Alex.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So he withheld the information from the only person who can make any decisions in the entire company.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
This makes sense.
This definitely is real.
jordan holmes
I'm going to throw this out there.
All right.
Maybe I've heard somebody start a story with, I wasn't going to drink, and then immediately get into a long and very interesting story that could be explained away in a very short Occam's razor way of, actually, I got drunk.
dan friesen
I would not be surprised if he got drunk.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't think necessarily, with the information that I have at my disposal, I don't think that he's coming up with an elaborate story to cover up for being drunk.
Okay.
I think it might be incidental.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
But I do have some theories about what's going on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay.
For sure.
All right.
So here, here's the basic situation.
If I want to give you a broad sketch of what Alex is saying, sure.
The chief restructuring officer in the bankruptcy is a guy named Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex is saying that he's trying to do a hostile takeover of the business.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's using the security guards as his personal.
jordan holmes
Right.
He just watched Better Call Salt.
Gotcha.
Done.
dan friesen
So they had a CRO, a chief restructuring officer who did a bad job, kind of fucked up.
They got rid of him.
And then they got a new person in, which is this Patrick McGill.
Right.
And Alex has some pretty severe accusations about him.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We get this new guy that says, well, if I get appointed by the court, I'll do it.
And he done some small cases.
And I had some people in Houston that knew him.
And they said, well, he's never done big cases, but he's known as okay.
And I'm like, okay.
So they bring this guy in.
And immediately he gets rid of all the sponsors we had, which was $12 million a year.
So he just gets rid of $12 million of advertising.
And I'm like, why are you doing this?
Well, these advertising groups and these ad agencies, well, they're not going to get 10%.
I go, hell, a lot of ad agencies get 30%.
I said, they're the ones that do it.
They get the sale.
They bring us the people.
They manage it.
That's normal.
No, we're not going to have outside groups doing that.
And I said, well, that's funny.
John Harmon, he's our affiliate relations director.
He's with all our great radio stations.
He's been here 21 years.
No, it's 22.
This is a year ago.
And I said, he's actually managed some of the in-house advertising.
And I said, he gets 5% for that on top of the salary.
He does a great job.
I said, let's bring him in as the ad manager.
I've got all these advertisers.
Let's not get rid of this $12 million that we made the year before to bring that in and fund the operation.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll do that.
We'll do that.
I'm like, well, you understand.
You just killed all this other advertising.
We've got one sponsor that he handles.
That's the satellite phone company.
And there's currently, you know, in the bank account, a couple of hundred thousand dollars from that group.
I want to bring that into free speech.
That's something that was happening previously that was an ad that John and I had.
It was something that I was paying myself that he was being paid from.
Most of it went into free speech systems, but I would pay it into it.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
So what sponsors is he talking about?
I mean, he says the satellite phone.
And that's all good and well, but like $12 million, his only sponsors really are his own products and the supplements that his dad sells, which they pay advertising.
jordan holmes
I was going to say a little bit of, it feels a little cyclical.
What's going on here is, if I understand correctly, you're paying other businesses when you should be paying the bankruptcy.
dan friesen
Well, here's what I think is going on here.
So in October 5th, 2022, that's when Patrick McGill took over as the CRO for Free Speech Systems.
Alex is referring to Mountain Way, which was a marketing company that was founded in August 2022, just after Free Speech Systems filed for bankruptcy.
John Harmon was the person who ran Mountain Way.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
They were taking in money for ads.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And they had paid Alex $157,000 for these ads personally.
And so there was this sort of the appearance wasn't good in terms of the arrangement that seemed to be set up to get money to Alex outside of bankruptcy.
jordan holmes
The order, generally speaking, for honest people is: these people are screwing me.
I swear to God.
And then afterwards, you explain how you have done things the correct way by the book.
The order for liars generally goes with, I swear I did everything by the book.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I swear I was a good guy.
I swear I don't think I've ever done anything wrong in my life.
I don't even speed anymore.
And I definitely don't drink except for that double vodka.
And then I'm not going to explain things.
Anyways, these people are screwing me.
dan friesen
Because I have that double vodka.
God can't get a clear line in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you got to, you, you remind me, you warning me in advance that you do not deserve this consequence kind of makes me feel like you'd have this consequence coming.
dan friesen
Right.
And this arrangement is shady.
Yeah.
This mountain way arrangement is shady and it raises a lot of questions.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
For sure.
And that's the reason that it was brought up in filing in March 2023.
Right.
And the judge is like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to give that money back.
jordan holmes
No, you got to put it.
I've never done anything wrong.
dan friesen
So Alex's lawyer said, oh, I could have sworn we brought that up before.
jordan holmes
I barely even speed.
I don't even speed anymore.
I thought we brought it up.
I'm sure we did.
dan friesen
So Alex has taken this, and now this is the way he's presenting it as the CRO got rid of all of their advertising.
jordan holmes
Totally.
What a dick.
It's just, he's just making bad money decisions, really.
That's why we're going out of business is because this man refuses to give money to my dad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And he's a Cretan.
Alex is very mad at Patrick Harrison.
jordan holmes
Did he use the word cretin?
dan friesen
He does.
jordan holmes
That's great.
alex jones
His name's Pat McGill.
He's the CRO guy.
And he goes to the court, which has got in the news, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, you name it, and says, Oh, I found this money just now that they were secretly holding over here, but don't worry, I fixed it.
And they've agreed to give me the money.
I caught them.
So I go in there with my lawyers when they were here.
And we said, hey, man, they wrote notes in those meetings four or five months ago, and we filed two months ago.
You need to go public and retract that.
That's a terrible thing.
You have Alzheimer's?
I mean, I asked him, I said, are you having memory lapses here?
He said, I'm protecting you.
It's fine.
It's good.
Don't worry.
And I said, so you're not going to go retract that to the court.
It's wrong.
You know, I'd already filed with the court.
You mean to go make a snake in front of the court?
Because you just, in the news, said I was stealing money from my own company.
And this guy is like, literally, could be like play, you know, the bad guys in Oliver Twist or something.
I mean, this guy is like literally a street Cretan, you know, slimy, I mean, just absolutely the most lie-to-your-face person you've ever met.
I mean, it is just unbelievable.
So I'm dealing with that.
Sure.
And then three months ago, I'm out there doing Tucker Carlson's show in Florida.
And I get in my email a secret filing he filed with the court.
He didn't even know that the judge would give it to me.
And I have the filing.
I have it all.
And he says, Alex Jones is incompetent, and Alex Jones took this money, and I caught him, as I told you, and I need to take full control of the company, and I need to be able to basically fire him and all this other stuff.
And the judge immediately gives that to me, and has since excoriated McGill in court repeatedly.
And I didn't talk to him after that.
Talked to him one time after that with my counsel, just a few weeks ago.
And he stayed away.
Except when I'm on air.
He comes here about once a week, every two weeks.
He's shit for one day.
dan friesen
You haven't talked to your chief restructuring officer in a couple of weeks.
This doesn't sound, it sounds bleak.
jordan holmes
I don't know if they're getting along well.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
I know.
Listen, I feel like at this point, they should have a more collegial relationship.
You know, like, I'm going to try and get, like, there should be a bit of a smirk.
You know, yeah, you caught me.
I'm going to try and get away with something next.
What do you think is going on?
We're on five, six years of this shit.
Of course, I'm going to try something next.
We're going to be able to do it.
dan friesen
There should be like a music sting when somebody gets caught.
jordan holmes
Hey, you caught me.
All right.
I'll get you.
You know what's crazy?
The ones you haven't caught yet.
Like, that's what you should be like.
You should be laughing.
It should be funny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I can see a world where somebody who is in the position of a restructuring officer would be like, I'm trying to help you by bringing this arrangement into light before it's something that you will probably go to jail for.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there was no hope for anyone.
Like, if you wanted somebody to do the job, it would have to be like me because there's no way for a good-hearted, good-intentioned person to come in here and not get their ass blown away.
dan friesen
Quick pump on the brakes.
Sure.
I don't know anything about Patrick McGill.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
Some of the accusations that Alex makes could entirely be true.
unidentified
Hilarious.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about this guy.
jordan holmes
I would like a malevolent monster.
dan friesen
Like the idea that he said that Alex is incompetent in a court filing.
jordan holmes
Makes sense to me.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It sounds like he did.
I mean, that's an accurate statement.
dan friesen
It would be a good way to try and protect Alex and the company.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
He literally cannot be classified as a person capable of making decisions.
dan friesen
He can't have committed crimes with mensrea because he doesn't know what he's doing.
jordan holmes
He's incapable of knowing the thing he's doing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So the issue has come to a head, if I understand Alex correctly, because there is a bankruptcy hearing that is coming up.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And there is a decent chance that there will not be a settlement reached, and it'll be kicked out of bankruptcy court.
And at that point, it will likely either go to state or federal court.
If it goes to state court, there's a good chance that Judge Gamble is going to liquidate Alex's company.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But if he keeps it in federal court, he thinks he has a more preferable chance of having a line down and being able to make money and maybe keep the company and that kind of shit.
Right.
So Alex's dad owns PQPR, which is the company that sells Alex supplements.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex owed $50 million or some shit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he has lawyers himself.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
And on behalf of PQPR.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
They filed a motion to try and keep this in federal court.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
If it comes out of the bankruptcy court.
jordan holmes
Because that way they would get a better shot of getting money.
dan friesen
That is what they believe.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And so the CRO said no.
And the CRO is like, no, we're not going to make this filing.
jordan holmes
That should be how it works, right?
dan friesen
Right.
So now he, in retaliation, is trying to padlock the doors at InfoWars.
alex jones
And so there's this thing coming up on the 14th of June in Houston, the federal courthouse.
I'll be there.
And we're like, okay, well, we'll see what happens there.
You know, if we can keep it in the federal court because we can ask for it back in there, and then we can do some negotiations.
There's other creditors, not just, you know, the creditors from the judgments.
We're still appealing all that.
And those creditors are saying they want to keep it in federal court.
dan friesen
So your dad.
alex jones
Last week, PQPR, that's my dad's company that I don't have nothing to do with.
And my company doesn't really know the citizens.
It's a simple company.
jordan holmes
He's saying to us, we never eat dinner together.
dan friesen
That's coincidence.
alex jones
Says, well, I only learned this last night.
I was like, what the hell's going on?
They put a filing in saying, hey, we need to get it teed up, but only free speech systems CRO can do it to say we want to keep this in federal court when you kick it out.
We want to put it back because we don't want it going to the state courts.
And they say, nope, says we're not doing that.
And don't, by the way, don't have that hearing, or I will padlock the doors with the private security company that I hired six, seven years ago and we'll shut it down because I can't have my cash collateral challenge and have any expenses going on, even though the shopping cart's working, the warehouse in Denver's going, everything's purring along fine.
And I went, oh, but you can have security here while we're all kicked out of the building.
They can be paid.
He goes, yes, that's essential.
So it puts the company into cardiac arrest, turns the show off, the radio stations will all kill it.
Turning one of these off is like turning a nuclear reactor off.
There's a way you've got to do it.
Or you screw a bunch of people.
How is that fiduciary to just boom and to turn the whole thing off and turn the revenue off and all this, all because he's about to be removed on the 14th, and I'm about to be back in control of my company in the interim for the new assault.
And so because he's not going to get paid $50,000 a month to sit around and do nothing, in my opinion, he's going to then shut it down.
dan friesen
So you understand the broad sort of outline of the conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Is he getting paid $50,000 a month?
dan friesen
The CRO?
Yeah.
Yes.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I believe so.
I believe that's about right.
jordan holmes
Fuck McGill, too.
dan friesen
Fuck him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have no interest in defending.
I have no idea what he's up to or anything.
But I also don't believe the things that Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
No, I don't believe those either.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, not at all.
dan friesen
But do you understand the general shape of this?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is going to be removed as the CRO because it'll be out of the bankruptcy system and such.
And he doesn't want that to happen because then he'll lose his cash cow.
Yeah.
And so he's trying to shut down Infowars as a power grab or something along those lines.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
It doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
No, no, it doesn't work.
It does.
It does.
All of this brings me to this place where I laugh at the idea of Game of Thrones because finally, I truly agree that trial by combat makes way more sense than any of this bullshit.
Everybody go home, fight to the death, and then we move on.
Maybe Alex wins, maybe he loses, but we move on with our fucking lives.
dan friesen
I thought you were going to say that all of this brings you to the point where you want a double vodka and a couch.
jordan holmes
No, I want to fight and just be done.
Just be done with it.
Don't tell me it's going to a different court.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
jacob chansley
Fine.
dan friesen
How dare you?
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
So we have a situation here where Alex, you know, he saw this weird security guard yesterday.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that would be on Friday after his show.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
The security guard that was ostensibly secretly hired by the CRO to put locks on the door so that he couldn't get in there.
dan friesen
The CRO believes himself to be in charge of these security forces.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Not hired by them.
They had already pre-existed at InfoWars and such.
Yes.
But yeah.
Also, God told Alex they were going to shut him down.
jordan holmes
Well, it would have to be.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So let me go back to about four o'clock yesterday.
I've known this guard's been here about a year, nice guy, don't talk to him much, but friendly fellow.
Walks out to my car, comes out when I get there, does a great job.
And he's acting kind of like this.
And man, my instincts are, they're good.
I've learned to always follow them.
And God goes, okay, they're shutting Infowars down today.
You're not been told about this.
So I bluff him.
And I go, hey, why are extra guards coming in tonight?
He goes, how do you know that?
I went, oh, I mean, I heard about it.
I mean, I heard about how they're going to lock the doors and change locks tonight.
He goes, yeah, man, I just feel terrible.
I go, that's all right.
This is Jedi-level stuff, man.
This is what God's told me.
Like, you go with it.
When I tell you something, you go with it.
I literally saw it.
I'm like, okay, no, they're shutting this down tonight.
So I call up my people and they go, listen, we don't want you to have a heart attack.
I told you earlier, we're trying to fix it right now, but we've got to try to keep it in federal court and stuff.
And he's not saying he's going to do that.
And this is all crazy.
And I go, let me guess.
He's claiming there's no funds to run this, even though there aren't any good.
They go, yeah, what?
Have you talked to somebody?
I go, no, I just see how this goes.
dan friesen
So Alex bluffed the guard before calling the lawyers.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That wasn't an element of the story the first time around when he was telling it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He just saw the guard acting weird and then called the lawyers and then they told him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Whereas now he had information going into the call with the lawyers because God told him and then he Jedi tricked the bad.
jordan holmes
I would always give myself Jedi powers if it was available.
dan friesen
You're adding magic.
The story is more refined.
It's becoming more interesting.
I appreciate that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for real.
Otherwise, again, we're stuck with just lawyers having conversations.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
And we're stuck with Alex possibly saying things that are going to get him sued by Patrick McGill.
I mean, somebody, this kind of stuff.
He's accusing him of crimes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Quite literally.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
alex jones
So the only way I know how to explain this is just to explain it.
So I go, hey, guess what?
It's four o'clock in the afternoon.
I said, you guys have got two hours to tell me you're not locking the doors here, or I'm going on air right now.
And I guess you think the security will file your order.
Sure, have them drag me out.
I'll call the police because on record, I am still the owner under law with this type of corporation.
And when McGill tried to take this place over a few months ago, the judge said, you can't do that under law.
And at the other bankruptcy hearing in Fort Worth in the mediation, the judge told their lawyers and all of them that as well.
He is not the managing member.
He is not.
He is the manager for the court of the operation that reports back.
He's not that person.
So I said, you can't even do this.
You've got to get a judge's order.
So they say, we don't care.
We're ordering them to lock this thing.
I say, fine, you got two hours.
I'm going on air.
I mean, you're going to throw me that briar patch.
You did it.
Okay.
An hour later calls up.
Okay, well, you can pay $15,000, which I don't even, you know, out of my bankruptcy.
You can pay whatever.
You can pay to keep it running three days.
That's the cost of it.
It's really like eight, eight, nine grand for the crew and all the stuff.
And then I go, I go, okay, the call gets made.
Actually, no, you're in bankruptcy.
They don't want your money.
They want your dad, who's basically out of money himself.
They want $15,000.
My dad says, absolutely.
We don't want to close that place.
My dad's got a debt on here, a stake on it, whatever happens.
He's, of course, we'll do that.
McGill calls back up to his lawyers and says, you know what?
It's $25,000 now.
And you better send me an email by 7.35, 7.30, or I'm shutting it down.
It's just all like weird, you know, thug gangster stuff.
My dad goes, sure, but does that mean it's going to go up again?
So they didn't want me to go on air.
That's the only reason they didn't lock this place.
They thought they were going to sneak attack it and I'd come here and it'd be locked up.
And I think me talking about this, they may do it tomorrow.
And it's fine.
I'm coming here with the police.
I'm calling the police.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
So this is.
Okay.
So if you try and keep this in your head in terms of like the flow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Show ends with Eddie Bravo talking about flat earth and what have you.
Four o'clock, he bluffs the security guard and calls the lawyers or calls the lawyers after seeing a security guard.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Unclear exactly, but that's at about four.
Right.
He threatens to go on air and is extorted for money by the CRO at about 7:30.
jordan holmes
I love that.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
So this is quite a night.
alex jones
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, I fuck Alex.
jordan holmes
That's how you have to talk to these assholes to get anything.
But they tried lawyers.
They tried being polite.
They tried being impolite through lawyer shit.
Fuck you.
Pay me.
dan friesen
Here's what's happening.
jordan holmes
Money or you die.
alex jones
That's it.
dan friesen
Here's what's fascinating about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A great deal of the time on this episode on this stream is spent with Alex talking about how he's been too nice and everybody's gaslighting him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So he has a sort of entirely different view of things.
jordan holmes
I would imagine so.
Yeah.
Somehow, narcissists seem to find themselves being the victims.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And man, I think if I were Patrick McGill, one, I'd be afraid for my life.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The way that Alex is targeting him, he's putting his picture up on screen.
He's calling him a Cretan.
He's accusing him of extortion, basically.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
For keeping the show on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, Alex is really, like, I would be very uncomfortable if I were him.
Number one.
Number two, I would be immediately filing something.
Sure.
I would be, I would, Alex would be in trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you can't say something like this about someone's reputation.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would personally feel like I was stealing money from the families because I was taking $50,000 a month for a job I was only showing up for a couple of days.
I would feel like that.
But that may be just me.
dan friesen
Hold on.
jordan holmes
Because I'm not a lawyer person who doesn't give a fuck.
Yeah.
Apologies.
dan friesen
The only coming in a few days or whatever.
That's Alex's perspective.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what kind of work he's actually doing.
I'm going to be ungenerous.
dan friesen
Okay, that's fine.
Yeah, I'll allow it.
jordan holmes
Because he is.
dan friesen
Well, would you like to learn a little bit about Patrick McGill's politics?
jordan holmes
I think I would.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I imagine so.
alex jones
I was told by the people on the other side of the building, because this is the broadcast part.
The other side over there is like, you know, accounting and the customer service and the janitor, you know, in-house, you know, stuff like that.
They're like, man, do you know McGill is like a super hardcore woke leftist?
And I'm like, no, because you're like, I like your politics.
I agree with you.
And I'm around.
I'm like, whoa, it's really creepy.
He comes and sit down next to you and I really love you.
You're such a great person.
My family really loves you.
Behind the scenes.
He's like, that Jones needs to, he's going to get people killed.
He needs to be in jail.
Tell people not to take shots.
This is after all this has come out.
So he's up here two weeks ago.
He goes in John Harmon's office.
He comes in the control room while I'm on air and goes, and I had vaccine people on.
He goes, he goes, he's going to get people killed.
The vaccine's wonderful.
This is this place is a disgrace.
dan friesen
Yes, he's a woke leftist who likes vaccines.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know if you need to be a woke leftist.
I think you need to listen to a show for about an hour and then you'll be like, this man needs to be sucked.
dan friesen
Being a fairly normal person, you would be shocked by watching a video.
jordan holmes
He's a regular ass guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like, this is fucking irresponsible.
harrison smith
This is great.
jordan holmes
How is this legal?
dan friesen
So, Alex slept at the studio last night on the couch.
jordan holmes
Because the locks might have been changed.
And he wasn't going to let them do that.
dan friesen
And guess what?
It's going to continue.
alex jones
That's what's happening.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
alex jones
And so, fuck yes.
I mean, this could be the last show I ever do.
I slept here last night.
And I'm going to sleep here tonight.
And I'm going to sleep here the next night because I'm going, and I'm not mad at the guys.
They're nice.
They want to follow their orders without a court order.
I'm going to sit there and call the police.
And we're going to have a good old-fashioned airing of this in the public, all of it.
dan friesen
So, yeah, Alex is going to stay here and he's going to broadcast his downfall.
This is exactly what you would kind of expect is going to happen.
Yeah.
We'll see if it does.
But it's not a healthy play.
It's bunker thoughts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is bunker thoughts.
But you know what?
This is like something where I wish I could be the type of person who could live in a tree, like a giant tree that is going to get cut down.
It's an old-ass tree.
I wish I was the type of person who could live in the tree and then just broadcast 24 hours of just absolute lunacy as I lose my mind in the tree.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Various tree things.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's saving a tree.
Those are tree thoughts, right?
This is bunker thoughts.
These are bad thoughts.
dan friesen
And it's a little bit reminiscent of a lot of stuff in his world that is scary.
Things like standoffs.
Things like Bill Cooper's.
And I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's like, well, there's a tradition in your community of sticking to this.
jordan holmes
I do like this that goes back, and you've got a lot of guns in the office.
dan friesen
He does.
He has that Barret.
jordan holmes
He does have the Barrett.
Oh, man.
What a day that would be.
dan friesen
So I was a little bit worried at this point.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because I'm listening to his show.
You expect maybe you're going to hear something about Bilderberg, and instead, the CRO tried to change the locks last night and slept here.
jordan holmes
This is the fucking plot of airheads.
dan friesen
Alex needs his mixtape play and his demo.
jordan holmes
Brendan Fraser's right there.
dan friesen
So McGill called Alex drunk at some point.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what now?
dan friesen
According to Alex.
jordan holmes
All right, I'm listed.
dan friesen
And this was after he made the filing in court that said that Alex was incompetent and all this shit.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex recorded him.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
alex jones
And he calls up drunk.
And I don't have a recording app, but we had other phones.
So I put it on speaker.
And he's drunk.
And we recorded it.
And I say, Pat, why did you file that thing again saying that we're hiding money and that I'm incompetent?
He says, I'm incompetent and I'm a bad person to the court.
And why do you think the judge wouldn't give me?
He goes, Alex, I give you my word.
That's fake.
I filed nothing.
And he says it over and over again.
I swear to you, that's not real.
Your lawyers are lying to you.
You'll hear the tape, I'm sure.
Help.
We'll hear it right now.
Maybe we'll stop your ass punk.
unidentified
Yes.
You know what?
alex jones
Let's just air it.
michael flynn
Yes.
jordan holmes
Do it.
dan friesen
We're airing it.
jordan holmes
That's probably illegal.
alex jones
So I'm not taking this stuff lying down.
dan friesen
I think it's a one-party consent situation.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
So I think it might not be illegal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I will say that this is a tease that is, he follows through.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
He does play the tape.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, whether it lives up to exactly what he's saying, debatable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It seems like they have quite a bit of a disagreement about what this filing may or may not have said.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
And so instead of saying, I didn't file that, he's saying, you're saying that I filed something.
dan friesen
And I would never file what your dad is describing to you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I wouldn't do that.
jordan holmes
What I filed was a professional document.
dan friesen
Right.
Right.
It seems like through what you can glean from context clues, McGill has heard that Alex's dad thinks that he filed saying that Alex is an alcoholic, and he's saying I didn't do that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That seems to be the sticking point.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But we will end up hearing a bit of this tape in a little bit.
jordan holmes
All right.
I want to, they should have a sitcom or a reality show during this part.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Definitely.
So I started to get a little concerned because I was pointing out to you how the timeline fits of Friday evening.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I started to just have some doubts.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
alex jones
All right.
Thank you for joining us.
It's 12:23 Central Standard Time.
156 days out for the most important election in world history.
InfoWars is still up.
Bandout video is still up.
But I learned yesterday at about 4 o'clock that they were going to lock up the building, kick all the crew out, and take over the company outside of even a court ruling.
dan friesen
So this just doesn't, it's not sitting right because Alex is supposed to have learned, whether it's through tricking the security guard or calling his lawyer or God telling him at four o'clock that things were going to be shut down.
He threatens to go on air and then 7.30, there's like this extortion conversation with the CRO.
Then I'm supposed to believe he goes to dinner with Mario Nafal and has a double vodka and then comes and crashes on the couch.
Like he would have stayed at Infowars if all this stuff was true.
Why would he go at the very time when they were supposed to be putting the locks on the doors?
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
This makes no sense.
jordan holmes
Well, what especially makes no sense is starting with the iced tea.
You might as well just dispense with that.
If you've got this news, you're going for the double vodka.
dan friesen
And I couldn't blame you.
jordan holmes
No, never.
Not once.
dan friesen
I think a more likely scenario is that all of this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that Alex is running out of money and he can't run the show anymore.
I think that there's a decent chance that the CRO is like, there is no money that we can allot for this stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the CRO isn't playing his games.
I think that that's probably what's going on.
Shit's getting down to the wire.
So Alex got drunk and slept at the studio the previous night.
And now this is a way that he can dramatize the entire thing.
Yeah.
Running out of money.
Let's have our last stand or something like that on air.
I'm not sure I fully believe the idea that they were going to put padlocks on the doors or anything like that.
But I do believe that underneath this, there is a like, your money might be running out.
I think that's believable.
jordan holmes
There is absolutely no way a chief restructuring officer of any salt can look at Alex's business and not be like, you know, your overhead on this studio is absurd.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
For what you do.
dan friesen
You're paying Owen.
jordan holmes
You could just downside.
It's you, man.
Just do, I guess, a fucking podcast, idiot.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's, actually, Alex gets into that a little bit.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Not the podcast aspect, but that, like, he's trying to cast Patrick McGill in a bad light.
david weiss
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's like, you know, someone has to do this.
Can you imagine who would accept that job being a CRO for InfoWars?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
They're like, yeah, no, it would probably be tough.
He's like, bottom of the barrel, who I had to choose from.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe that.
I do believe that.
dan friesen
Okay, buddy.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex, he's not going to get violent if people come to the studio.
And it's totally legal for him to play this video.
Okay.
This audio of the phone call.
alex jones
And Florida's legal.
Texas is legal.
We're both one party constant states.
They'll try to say something.
I don't care.
This is all going out.
This is here.
And if they try to do anything, I'll go on Tucker Carlson next week.
He's ready, by the way.
I'll just say that.
So you ain't stopping shit.
Okay.
I'll be in Florida on Tucker Carlson next week.
I'll be on Patrick Ben David.
I'll be on Joe Rogan.
I'll be on every.
So see, you ain't stopping shit.
But let's just get that straight, Buster.
You think you're going to fuck me over and try to put me in fucking prison and foul lies about me and too lazy to check on follow with the court?
Obvious who he's working with.
jordan holmes
The Clintons?
alex jones
You made a big miscalculation, buddy boy.
So I'm sure, because I'm getting the phones ringing off the hook here, they're going to give orders tonight to shut this son of a bitch down.
I'm not going to get violent, not going to be mean.
I'm just going to be here.
I'm going to call the police.
I'm going to tell the police, where's the order?
You ever seen somebody take a company without a judge's order?
You ever seen that?
We got armed guys in uniforms here that work for me, and this guy says he's their boss and kicked me out of the building.
And that's fine.
We're not going to resist.
If the cops say go, I'm going to go.
But I'm going to be taking my stuff out of this building.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
You understand they are working for whomever pays them.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
They are not Alex's.
dan friesen
Well, I think that Alex is pretty accustomed to viewing his security guards as kind of like his squad.
jordan holmes
Soldier outfit.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I can see that.
I don't know, man.
At this point, just the experience of listening to this, I was definitely of the mind that Alex is never going to play this.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I thought, like, this is a great bluff.
And then when he did play it, I was quite surprised.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would be too.
dan friesen
Yes, because it's quite long.
jordan holmes
I would not be surprised at that.
dan friesen
But then Alex makes another claim of evidence that he's going to bring out.
alex jones
All right.
He was so drunk he couldn't even control his phone when he called me.
And this is God that did this.
jordan holmes
Man drunk.
alex jones
By the way, there's more.
Oh.
Do you think I might have hit record when he came to my office that time?
And said.
I've just decided to air that too.
Yeah, you think I'm going to take it.
You think you can slide to me like a freaking snake in the jungle book?
What's his name?
unidentified
Ka?
alex jones
It's like, sleepy.
No, I'm your friend, Mowgli.
No, you're not.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
My friend.
That's how, that's what you, you know, if Mowgli had a friend like you, instead of that balloo ass, that's the way you do it.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
So we've got a recorded phone conversation where he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And now we have a recording of him trying to elicit Alex to do a crime in the office.
jordan holmes
I just don't get why everybody's making that.
Because to me, to me, like Alex has been given something of a gift, which is just total freedom.
He's going to lose.
There's no way for him to win.
dan friesen
Well, there's also...
jordan holmes
So fucking go!
dan friesen
I think that there is no way for him not to win.
jordan holmes
Well, there's definitely that.
dan friesen
Because they can't take his dad's supplement company or whatever.
And that's like, if he just starts a podcast, he can have his dad be the sponsor for it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, like, I don't know.
I think that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, trial by combat does make way more sense, doesn't it?
dan friesen
So we get to this McGill phone call.
Sure.
And, yeah.
alex jones
I give you.
And, you know, it's a sealed federal document.
If people want to challenge me, I'll just publish it.
Got it right here on my phone.
Do it.
You want to read the document where I'm a criminal and I'm out of control and I'm bad and I'm terrible and this place will be shut down and whatnot for him.
I can't get money in here.
He just killed the advertising and killed the product sales and killed us going on the road and fired a bunch of people and seduced the security head.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Metaphorically.
alex jones
While they all sit around in some big legendary operation and pretend they built this.
You dumb bastards.
You miscalculated.
It'll only make us bigger.
We'll come back even stronger.
So we don't go out with a whimper.
We go out with a bang.
Call me Captain Ahem.
That's not the line.
Call me Moby Dick.
Call me whatever you want.
So here is Pat McGill, the so-called CRO, who's never even here and does absolutely nothing, and did a whole bunch of other horrible stuff I haven't even told you about that he kept from the court.
We'll be telling you about millions of dollars.
Not here.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you see, I'm not even bringing out the strongest stuff, and this is devastating.
Devastating.
Here it is, ladies and gentlemen, for the world to hear, telling me he didn't file this secret filing a day before that I got the next day because the judge gave it to me that he never thought I would get, telling me he didn't file it.
Listen to the gaslighter of gaslighters, Patrick McGill.
Yeah, Pat, can you hear me?
dan friesen
So this is weird because Alex isn't like the document that is beneath.
This is not, it's a secret filing he's not releasing, but he's releasing him confronting his CRO about the filing right.
So it's very it's difficult to to sort of parse out exactly where it's inexact.
Yeah yeah yeah, luckily I don't care.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I think it's fucking hilarious that Alex is taking to his show for hours on Saturday to get into a war with his chief restrictions.
jordan holmes
Very funny, it is demonstrably funny.
There's just no other way around it.
unidentified
It's not that interesting no no, but it is funny.
dan friesen
Oh my god, it's not what you'd expect.
jordan holmes
Secret recordings of the crow all right, I mean, I would find it difficult if, if there was an opportunity, if i'm, if i'm going through all of INFO WARS finances, i'm sure there's a breaking point where eventually you're like, if I took a million dollars that they wouldn't even know, they wouldn't know, they couldn't find it, I can't find it yeah, you might, you might.
dan friesen
So if i'm Migill, i'm not thinking about stealing from Alex, but I am thinking I should be careful.
Right when Alex sounds like he's on his show, he might be recording me.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So I would have my red flags up all over the place on this call.
alex jones
Yeah, well anyways.
So I know you love me, very sweet, but obviously that filing hurt my dad's feelings and some other people.
Um, you know where i'm incompetent and stuff like that.
unidentified
Okay, so let's talk about that.
That did not happen, drunk.
alex jones
Well, I mean, what did happen?
unidentified
I never, and I called your dad and he wouldn't take my call that I would never do that.
alex jones
That did not happen okay good, so so so what happened?
unidentified
I have no idea.
alex jones
This guy's drunk.
jordan holmes
It's a quick, that's a quick pronouncement.
I I feel I feel pretty confident in Knowing when or when not, people are drunken.
I don't think I have enough information yet.
dan friesen
I don't either.
I mean, he could just be the way he talks.
I don't have a baseline for him necessarily.
jordan holmes
I imagine you want to repeat things slowly to Alex.
dan friesen
Also, keep this in mind for Alex's voice a little bit later in the show.
Might have some more IC.
Drunk.
So Alex is confronting McGill about this.
Yeah.
And he reads from this filing.
Yeah.
And this is where this kind of difference of perspective seems to be around whether or not McGill called him an alcoholic.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that seems to be the confusion.
unidentified
Okay.
I never said what your dad said I said.
And that document does not say what your dad said.
It said I would never do that.
I would never.
alex jones
No, I understand.
Well, listen, I got thick skin.
I have very thick skin.
unidentified
I know that, Alex, but I would never do that.
I'm just telling you, I'm a Netflix.
That's not me.
That's not.
alex jones
Sure, sure, sure.
Well, listen, I believe you, Pat.
Let me just read you this.
This is item one, page one.
That FSS employees, approximately 50 personnel, that has the potential to generate very real significant value for the creditors.
Point two.
Unfortunately, the principal, Alex Jones, can be unreliable and is unable to competently manage the affairs of SSS.
He goes on from there, but unable to competently manage means incompetent.
So, look, I understand that, I declared bankruptcy, but I thought that was some legalese term, meaning I needed help.
So, I don't even take that as an insult.
They all got upset about it.
Is that the document or is there a different one?
unidentified
No, they talk about you being an alcoholic.
That's what your dad was saying, that there was some something that said you were an alcoholic and you were not reliable.
And I said, I never said that.
alex jones
Okay, well, I think they were read between the lines.
What is the point?
unidentified
I think your dad should see it.
I'm not seeing what you're saying.
Can you send that to me?
alex jones
Sure, sure.
Well, then let's move on from the alcoholic thing.
I don't think that's in the document.
I didn't see that.
But what about the unreliable, unable to compete?
unidentified
I have never, I've never seen that.
I have never seen that in.
alex jones
Hey, back it up for 20 seconds.
He's now testified in court.
He did it.
It's real.
They did it.
We have it.
It's been on national news.
They put it in the news, and I'm incompetent and all this.
It was in Bloomberg.
dan friesen
All right.
I mean, this is quite a battle between these two.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know if McGill is saying entirely that, like, a filing that said that Alex can't run his business well.
Yeah.
Like, it didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He seems to have had a conversation or maybe heard from Alex's dad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because he does say that Alex's dad won't answer his calls now.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
So maybe Alex's dad left him a mean message about how you called my son an alcoholic.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
And that seems to be what he thinks Alex is mad about.
Right.
And they're just talking past each other a little bit.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, it's a moot point.
Like, Alex, the idea now is not that your business makes money for you.
It now makes money for other people.
So it cannot be run to your desires.
It should be run to theirs.
Do you understand?
So you can't be trusted to competently manage FSS.
dan friesen
Also, you probably couldn't to begin with.
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Done.
I don't care if you're competent or not.
dan friesen
So Alex has paused it and he starts swearing about Miguel.
jordan holmes
Good for him.
dan friesen
Right.
This is what I would describe as the first outburst.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And where there's a lot of language.
There's a lot of language.
jordan holmes
Like Kelly and the first impact.
alex jones
But these people, in my opinion, are crooks.
They think everybody else is a crook.
Dude, I ain't a crook, man.
My family founded Texas.
They died the major battles.
My family's work with a Mayflower, bitch.
My family invented the stock exchange.
My family owned railroads, bitch.
You come from scum, not me.
And I'm not putting little people down, but my family's kick-ass, man.
jordan holmes
Oh, which is everybody about me?
alex jones
People work with us for hundreds of years because we're the real deal.
unidentified
You got that?
alex jones
And I won't sit there and have scumbags like you sit there and claim I'm a goddamn criminal because I'm the fucking opposite, you motherfucker.
jordan holmes
Not good swearing.
alex jones
You want a fucking political war?
You got one.
And just pull one more fucking thing.
You'll see.
I'll fucking release the other video.
In fact, I don't make threats.
I'm playing the motherfucker.
Let me dig it out.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
So you get some.
dan friesen
It's already too much swearing.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not good swearing.
dan friesen
And I don't feel great saying that as someone who swears a bit.
jordan holmes
I swear nigh constantly.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's bad swearing.
dan friesen
It's a little clunky.
So Alex goes back to the recording of this call that he had with McGill.
And there's another thing that's going through it that seems to be that McGill had been in a fight with one of Alex's old lawyers, Ray Battaglia.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And then Ray Battaglia quit and now won't talk to Alex anymore.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
And Alex believes that it's because he's afraid of the illegality that the CRO is doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
And he won't be involved with anything.
jordan holmes
As opposed to no longer legally or professionally having to and thus choosing not to.
dan friesen
Right.
Or being like, I discovered something about the way Alex runs his business and I can't be associated with that.
I'm not entirely sure.
Sure.
There's clearly a lot of backstory to this phone call that we're not privy to.
And one piece of information that you're not privy to is that Rob Dew is sitting in the car with Alex while they're recording this.
So here's a little bit of that.
jordan holmes
Of course he is.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Thanks, Pat.
unidentified
Look, no, not coming.
alex jones
I'm going to try.
I'm going to try.
Thank you.
unidentified
All right, buddy.
alex jones
All right.
The fuck was that?
Hold on, let's just stop.
Don't stop it.
Let's get this on record.
I'm not trying to be mean.
Yeah, no, no, no.
This is very dangerous.
He's had a psychotic break.
The date is, what is it?
It's March.
jordan holmes
Today's March 6th.
alex jones
March 6th, 2024, 2024.
And we were forced to record this because we told him in multiple lawyer meetings when he first came in about Mountain Way and a few sponsors, and we wanted to bring the sponsors on.
We wanted to transfer the money to him.
He said, great.
I'll tell you when to do it.
Then told the court that we had hidden the money as a power play.
He has re-put that in the new document that he filed today, or it was yesterday, the 5th.
And now he is saying he did not file this document that he clearly filed.
This is an unedited tape.
This has been done under duress to my crew and everybody, and I'm being accused of crimes I haven't committed.
dan friesen
All right.
alex jones
Pat McGill is, I believe, mentally ill.
All right.
End recording.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
End recording.
unidentified
Fucking Starfleet Command.
dan friesen
So that to me kind of feels like narrative building.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe trying to create a piece of evidence that he can later use.
Because Alex knows he's performing.
And you can tell that in his conversation with McGill.
So I don't know.
I don't find this to be a super compelling piece of evidence for the context that Alex is giving.
Although I do love Rob Dew being like, what the fuck is that?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think one of Alex's great underrated skills is the ability to prime.
Like anytime he is listening or seeing or presenting anything, he is already framing and priming the audience for how they should.
dan friesen
That's what so much of the false flag stuff is.
You know, it is false flags are coming.
It's priming for when anything happens, he can use it for his own purposes.
This is an essential skill, I think, if you're going to be in this field.
Yeah.
And it's something that, yeah, Alex, it's just muscle memory for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's easy to make people see stuff if they already want to see it or are already predisposed to see what you show them.
dan friesen
In another lifetime, Alex could have been a wonderful storyteller.
A gifted, a gifted devil.
jordan holmes
If he hadn't made a deal with the devil over some fucking steak, then maybe we'd be fine.
dan friesen
All of the best storytellers in the world have made deals with Alexander.
jordan holmes
That begun with a deal with the devil.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So Alex, now that he's played this call, he's back on the fucking offense, man.
jordan holmes
Yes, and he's excited.
That is what crazy people think.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Listening to that tape because you're going, I think he's crazy.
I think he's mentally ill.
This guy is out of control.
dan friesen
So Alex is back on the offense.
Take no prisoners.
This is war.
jordan holmes
Motherfuckers.
alex jones
God, it feels so good to be on the offensive.
Look out.
In my peaceful, loving way.
You're like Grendel marching into the keep in Norway, thinking he's the boss.
But somebody's going to turn loose.
That's right.
I've got you.
You don't have me.
I'm not locked in here with you.
You're locked in here with me.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Figured it out.
Oh, you didn't figure it out.
You think the New World Order tried to offer me hundreds of millions of dollars to serve them because they thought I was just one more of the fucking pussies?
I'm not a goddamn pussy like you.
I'm not a sellout.
I'm for team humanity.
You declare war on me.
I will take the challenge and you will get what you're looking for.
Guaranteed.
All right, I got some closing comments I want to make.
jordan holmes
Closing comments.
I feel like.
alex jones
Just play a report, play a promo.
I'm going to take a piss.
I'm going to close this out.
And for the dumbasses that think they padlocked this building tonight, this stuff doesn't come out.
It'll make the stuff we release 50 times bigger, you dumb assholes.
dan friesen
So they're trying to stop Alex from putting out this stuff that he's already put out.
Yeah.
He just played the audio.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So their incentive to lock him down for that no longer makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they might as well let it go.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's got some closing thoughts, but he wants to gather himself, go take a piss.
So play a special report.
We'll come back.
Come back and wind this thing down.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Closing comments, huh?
dan friesen
Parting is such sweet sorrow.
I think he literally says that it's a good thing.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
It's a little poetic.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
So pray for us and pray for the crew because I'm out of funds.
I'll try to figure something out and try to reconstitute something else.
Hopefully they back off and go away and they remove this guy and we can move forward.
But that's where we are.
And parting is such sweet sorrow.
Out, out breaths candle.
Life comes, life goes.
Things are born.
They grow.
They come to fruition.
They get old.
They die.
So I can do a tour of the place and talk about memories.
I could talk about all the amazing things we've done together and the whole history of it.
But that will be celebrated through the destruction of InfoWars, which I'm not happy for.
I've stayed the course.
I don't want that to happen.
But I will make plenty of lemonade out of lemons.
And I will not be gaslit and I will not sit here and I will not lay down.
But it is critical if you want to support us to support my one sponsor that's separate from this operation.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
alex jones
Dr. JonesNaturals.com.
dan friesen
This is one of the big messages of the entire stream, which is stop buying from me.
Go to my dad.
Go to my dad.
jordan holmes
Fucking idea.
The fucking gall to say the one advertiser I'm not associated with has my literal fucking name in it.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
You raised me.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
How that's totally unrelated.
I mean, that's okay.
Here's the problem.
There's a lot of problems here.
But one, the language of Alex cannot be used in our current legal system.
You can't be like, I'll fight you to the fucking end with another motion to try and keep it in federal court.
Fuck, no, bro.
Done.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
I will murder you politically with motions.
jordan holmes
Shut up.
dan friesen
Get out of here.
jordan holmes
Right.
And second, just the idea of somebody being like listening to this and going, well, I better buy it from his dad to keep him in business.
dan friesen
It's important.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
Well, I think maybe there are some people who have that perspective.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
So we sign off here.
This last clip.
Alex signs off on what could be his last broadcast.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's such an amazing thing.
So this is probably my last broadcast here.
I think they'll probably shut us down at night.
They'll probably be police here, everything else.
It's okay.
I'll be here and I'll give the address out the time for peaceful people to come and just document what's happening.
And that's where we are.
This is history.
We knew they were coming.
We need Imperial troops and they're in the base.
Another cheesy Star Wars analogy.
And we're here.
So it's partying is such sweet sorrow.
It's hard to sign off.
Maybe we're here tomorrow.
Maybe we're here the next day.
Probably not.
So from the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you for all you've done and all your prayers and all your support.
It's been amazing.
And this show's a ratcheting up of the attack.
We'll try to shut down the next thing we do.
This is just part of it.
But they can't silence all of us.
And I want you to realize how important you are and how amazing you are.
Black, white, old, young, male, female, you name it.
You're just amazing people.
And it's been a great journey together.
We've changed the world together.
And all glory goes to God.
So for myself and the whole crew and my family, you are the M For Wars family.
Thank you so much and have a good evening.
And please take action now in a peaceful way.
Thank you.
dan friesen
That would have been a sweet landing.
jordan holmes
I was pretty good.
I was going to say, there's absolutely no fucking way this is the closing clip.
There's no fucking way this is a closing clip, you asshole.
How dare you?
dan friesen
There's like 30 more clips.
jordan holmes
Of course there is.
I can't believe it.
We're doing a nine-hour episode again.
dan friesen
So look, that would have been great.
Sure.
I mean, the show sucked.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's just complaining about his CRO a bunch.
But that is a really nice landing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, love each other.
Take action in a peaceful way.
This has been great.
We've changed the world together.
jordan holmes
It's better than he has any right to.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It feels like if this is my pretend last show, this is a great last word.
jordan holmes
It is.
unidentified
It is.
dan friesen
It's like Conan's.
jordan holmes
You know, there was.
dan friesen
Don't be cynical.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I feel, here's what I'm saying, though.
This is prime late 90s, early 2000s.
We do a rooftop concert, right?
You do a rooftop concert.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
That's what you do.
dan friesen
That would be great.
jordan holmes
Empire records.
dan friesen
No, they have gunmen on the rooftop at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Aforementioned airheads.
I mean, you do a rooftop concert.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I think it would be great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Save InfoWars dance and concert.
jordan holmes
100%.
We're going to sell it up to get to the dance.
dan friesen
That's probably it.
jordan holmes
We got Nugent.
We got Nugent.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was trying to figure out how to make this joke, and I can't really figure it out.
So I'll just tell you what my joke was going to be.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
The twist is that this episode was recorded months ago.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it was aired because he pretended to record his last day.
jordan holmes
I remember.
I remember.
unidentified
A couple times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I was trying to figure out a way to make it to pretend that this was actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's just, it's too topical.
There's no way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's tough.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex signed off pretty cleanly.
Could have walked away.
Decided to come back on air a little bit later.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Probably after some iced tea.
dan friesen
I'm, I'm it's so hard for me to not tell you some things, so that let that uh stammer okay be uh, be your guy, all right, all right.
So here's where we jump back in okay, and I went.
alex jones
When I went off air, I said in about one hour we're gonna get a call, they're gonna tell the security to shut this place down.
And sure enough, the CRO was appointed by the court.
He told them to do it.
He and the people were smart enough to not do it, because you gotta have a court order, you gotta have you know, you gotta have a reason.
So it's a soluble.
You know a company that is solvent not soluble, you know, but solvent.
And so I went, okay well, we're gonna go back on air.
And then everybody batted around and it was consensus and all these lawyers and people, oh, actually there is no law to shut down info wars, but but again, these people don't care.
There's also a one-dimensional view, and it's not the judge himself.
He's been very fair.
There's a one-dimensional view that the person I exposed, Pat McGill, who's watching right now, thinks he shuts this building down and he stops it.
It's called I Know McGill, you don't know this stuff it's called the Streisand effect.
You might want to do a little research on the Streisand effect just for yourself see, because I don't set up Machiavellian stuff, but when somebody tries it on me, I'll out Machiavelli Machiavelli, so and so.
So this is what's going on.
dan friesen
So the plot thread is continuing from the earlier stream of Alex being mad at his CRO, right.
jordan holmes
So this will be act as our bridge right between the two the, the topic that gets us to the, to the finish line.
dan friesen
If you will, I should tell you that there's one thing that is quite different about this stream compared to the other one, and that is that Owen Schuri and Harrison Smith, the Knights of the InfoWars roundtable, are there, not there.
They are there for the entire four hours, for the entire time, I believe.
So yes, because they do chime in, maybe they, maybe they pop out, and uh, I don't think they do.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm telling you rooftop concert guys no, get your shit.
dan friesen
Such a better idea.
unidentified
Complain about the CRO on stream.
dan friesen
So yeah, he's starting to shut him down again, I guess on Saturday in between Alex's streams.
jordan holmes
Well, it's smart, I mean, I imagine somebody might have texted him.
He's, you'd have to have somebody like monitoring the show at least a little bit right.
dan friesen
And then I mean I'd be terrified if I were him.
Yeah, if I take away that, I'd be watching, because I'd be like, is he gonna put out a bounty on?
jordan holmes
Right, it's not like this is a brand new behavior.
Right, a million dollars for McGill's head is very available.
dan friesen
Yeah, he would do that with his lawyer then.
Yeah, absolutely totally fine.
So um, Alex keeps making uh, the allegation yeah, of the, the second recording right that he has about McGill.
alex jones
Right, my integrity is absolutely 110% paramount.
So that's where this is, and I'm sitting here with the crap you pulled and the things you did that I told my lawyers about.
Like, he came to my office and he said listen Alex, like three months, we're friends.
Why don't you just keep money aside bills, I don't care.
I'm like I go The bathroom, real quick, because I, you know, I'm not sitting there like recording.
We're like, oh, oh, tell me that again.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
It's over.
It's over.
Game over.
I think by the end of this show, we'll just play for you.
unidentified
Okay.
So keep playing your fucking games with me.
alex jones
Okay?
Game's over.
dan friesen
He hasn't played this clip yet.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's important to keep in mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is now threatened over the course of a long time.
jordan holmes
Multiple times.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, hey, you know what?
This whole story about the CRO getting rid of our advertisers and stuff, that involves John Harmon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
John Harmon, who is the head of the guy who opened the Mountain Way.
Yeah.
The advertising company.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And also apparently was the one who overheard McGill talking about how he liked vaccines.
Right.
Alex is like, I'm going to get that guy on the phone.
So he decides to call Cold Call out of the blue.
He calls John Harmon on his cell phone and holds it up to the mic to break the news.
jordan holmes
Studio overhead.
dan friesen
To break the news that they're going to try and shut down InfoWars.
alex jones
Did you know I'm live, John?
Did you know I'm live, John?
unidentified
Do what?
alex jones
I'm live on air right now.
I want you to know that.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
alex jones
I asked the crew to call you on your cell phone.
Are you guys able to call him before Spaces Comments?
I asked the crew to call you.
They didn't.
I'm not mad at them.
I just showed them how fast I can call somebody or pull up a story.
It's kind of a neurotic thing.
Can you guys call John Harmon?
I want to get him on air.
I'll just do it right now, speaker.
So, John, have you heard about the controversy?
Or are you not?
I don't blame you not tuning in on Saturday.
Have you heard what's going on?
jordan holmes
No, I have no idea.
alex jones
And John, we're on here right now.
dan friesen
Don't say anything.
unidentified
When you worked here since 2002.
alex jones
All right, so 22 years.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
And you started out as a board operator, and you've been a sales manager and an affiliate relations director, right?
dan friesen
That's right.
alex jones
Well, we got word last night they were going to close Infowars and kick us all out.
unidentified
Oh, dang.
Okay.
dan friesen
Oh, dang.
Oh, dang.
Quite a response.
jordan holmes
It's probably somebody who's been like, you know, they're going to close this place out eventually, right?
dan friesen
Or somebody who's heard Alex say this a hundred fucking times.
jordan holmes
Oh, dang.
dan friesen
Oh, dang.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
They're coming for us.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, you're live on air again, huh?
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I mean, it's not a response of somebody who seems wildly concerned about the job he's had for 22 years.
jordan holmes
He really doesn't.
It feels like he should be more concerned, yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe people don't take Alex's pronouncements too seriously.
jordan holmes
It's tough too.
dan friesen
So he, Alex, is just accusing McGill of crimes, and he says he's going to go to the FBI about it.
unidentified
Great.
alex jones
If you had an image of an encyclopedia of a gremlin, it's Patrick McGill.
We'll put his picture back up, folks.
Everybody needs to know who this guy is.
I know he flipped out once it's shut down.
Hey, Pat, get the show shut down.
If that's what you want to do, Streisand effect, dude.
I know you don't know anything.
Take your shots, buddy.
Streisand effect.
Guys, pull up definition of Streisand effect for old Patrick McGill.
owen shroyer
That was a nice house Barbara Streisand had that she didn't want anybody to know about.
alex jones
So she got upset about us.
It was the top story in the country.
owen shroyer
Yeah, and then everybody, now it's a famous picture of her giant mansion on the beach.
alex jones
All right.
Well, hey, John, I'm sorry I called you about this.
And, you know, we don't have any plans.
I'm going to try to get a new employer.
I can't be the owner in the future.
We'll try to figure something wrong.
I think, regardless, I have to dig through my phone and get the other stuff, but it's there.
And, you know, this, I couldn't even believe it.
I called my lawyers right after I was.
He was just in my office saying, you can keep money and secretly.
Let's work together.
And I said, dude, is this a joke?
I mean, it's just like, come on, man.
Come on.
Come on.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
So it's like I just played a two of hearts.
I have a royal flush.
You understand, and it's not like blackmail.
I don't even want to put the stuff out of there.
I'm not even asking for something from these people.
I'm just like, I'm going to the FBI Monday.
I'm going to FBI.
I'm going to the FBI.
You're like, well, the FBI's corrupt.
No, no.
I'm going to take them all the stuff.
I'm going to the FBI.
Here, Pat, going to the FBI.
dan friesen
And the FBI, the people who are all involved in this, aren't they the ones who are pulling the string?
And Alex actually realizes that.
You can hear it a little bit.
He realizes that in his narrative, the FBI is the one who's setting him up.
And so he's like, yeah, I'm going to go and bring them to this information to be like, I gotcha.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
dan friesen
So that's what he's going to do.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I don't do it.
dan friesen
I find this difficult to believe unless it implies a real deeper familiarity with illegality.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because if you are somebody who's a Boy Scout and doesn't do any crimes, and then you record your CRO trying to solicit you to commit a crime and you tell your lawyers about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then nobody does anything.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Until you have to make a big dramatic live stream about how you're going to get shut down.
And then you bring all this stuff up.
I feel like you would probably deal with this through proper channels unless you're like, I'm going to sit on this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a lot of crimes going around for a lot of people.
jordan holmes
I've never been in a large criminal disorganization before, but I imagine if everybody's doing crimes, you keep a little back.
You keep a little back in case you need a little bit to show up at later.
dan friesen
A little crimey for me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That didn't work as well as.
jordan holmes
I'm not just going to throw out crimes because then they're going to point out some of my crimes and then we got to do that.
So it's mutually assured destruction crime.
unidentified
Right.
harrison smith
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is pissed off at Patrick McGill.
Right.
He's shooting shots.
He's talking straight to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, he wants to go on Twitter and go on spaces and talk to the people.
And so, of course, this leads to him spending a fair amount of time talking about how great Elon Musk is because, of course.
harrison smith
Well, and part of what I don't like about the nitpicking about Donald Trump or Elon Musk is we've been through some crap because of what we've done.
And then to have people on our side go, let's attack the enemies that are out in the open.
alex jones
Don't attack people that are giving us fucking attack mode.
Fucking bomb the enemy.
Elon Musk has opened us up to scorch their ass and we're going to sit around and say he could have done this better.
harrison smith
Bullshit, man.
Bullshit.
alex jones
He eight says for me, I'm fucking annihilating the enemy right now and I'll take that window to drop these bombs any day.
harrison smith
Because when people are inspired by Elon Musk, they need to know, hey, it's going to be a tough road.
They're going to attack me, but hey, at least the people have my back.
At least people that see what's going on know what I'm standing at.
alex jones
And what does Elon say?
He says the globalists are going to kill everybody.
Their plan?
They think they're going to kill all of us.
They won't get killed.
Elon's like, this ain't working.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
He just for him, it's a very pragmatic statement.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think.
Didn't Alex have like proof that he was being shadow banned the whole time that he was back on Twitter?
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
None of this matters.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
But here's the thing.
I think Alex very clearly understands that this is the, he needs this lifeline.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he is running out of money, Twitter is free.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Ish.
I guess you still have to, I guess if he wants that check mark he's got to pay or whatever.
Maybe he has an arrangement.
Sure.
But he needs that.
That's a way that he can get his voice out there in a way that he can't if he's off all these radio stations and if banned.video goes away and all of this.
unidentified
So God.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing about Harrison Smith and Owen Froyer.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is when you've got Alex in this mood, if you match his energy, you could send him to the fucking moon.
You know, like if he, if it was him and I was just vibing back with him, just like, yeah, these motherfuckers are out of control.
He'd be throwing the N-word around in like five seconds.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, their job is to try and keep his energy to a manageable minimum.
dan friesen
They appear to be hanging their heads for a fair amount of this, and I don't think they're praying.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would not want to say that.
dan friesen
There's a little bit of like at times they chime in and say, oh, it's been so great working here and stuff like that.
But yeah, there seems to be a little bit of shame.
So Nick Sortor is back.
He's on the Twitter space.
He apparently went to dinner with Mario Nafal and Alex the night before.
So presumably he would have been told about Alex's revelation.
But I don't think he does.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
They bring up they were at dinner and doesn't, there's no conversation of Alex had drunk.
You told me last night.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, Alex had drinks and didn't go on a massive rant about this.
dan friesen
I'm not saying it's impossible that all of this can't all be true.
Sure.
It is just a little strange.
nick sortor
And one of the questions that we're getting a lot, Alex, is what does being shut down look like?
You know, because some of these people have been listening to for years and they're afraid that they're not going to be able to hear your voice anymore.
Just to sum it up, generally speaking, what does it look like to be shut down and how do you overcome that?
alex jones
Well, I've tried to save Infowars, so I've made myself not think about that and try to just save this.
But now that we're so down to the wire, we just get bigger.
As many interviews as I want to do, I have a new employer.
They can't stop the first woman, but still, it's still there.
We try to bring the crew back.
I haven't even worried about all that.
But, I mean, I've been a little Machiavellian about it.
I'll be honest.
I'll say strategy on error.
I mean, I could easily go, instead of hiking two miles every morning, hike five miles every morning, lift weights, lose like 30 pounds in a few months, disappear for a while, create total hysteria, which I wouldn't give up.
I would just kind of take a pause, like putting the, you know, the executor starship in the dock, retool it, and then come roaring back.
Or I would, knowing me, I'll probably immediately do all the interviews and immediately just go on a rampage and immediately go set something else up.
But I haven't, I haven't, it's kind of like, I don't cheat on my wife, but if she died, I would probably find another woman and get remarried.
So it's kind of like this woman dies, which I'm trying to save her.
I'm at the hospital with her, holding her hand.
Then if she's dead, I'll bury her next week and I'll go get another woman next week.
Do something because I need a woman.
You know, that's what I do.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's strange.
jordan holmes
Sure.
If that metaphor is what you want to be on air for the rest of your life, then sure.
dan friesen
You'd love to hear that as a spouse.
unidentified
I mean, you know, I don't even.
dan friesen
I'd grieve you for a week, but then I need a new woman.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not even the literalization of the metaphor.
It's like, if that's what you want to say.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You, you think about it, maybe next time.
dan friesen
I think that what he wants to say.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If I, if I were to clean this up a little bit, it would be that like, I'm not going to be too precious about this.
I'll move on from InfoWars once it's dead.
I'm not a griever.
I have feelings for it and I love it until it's gone, but when it's gone, I need to move on.
That's fine when it's a business.
It's not good when you compare that to your spouse.
jordan holmes
I mean, you could have just said, like, I'm always kind of moving forward.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Could have.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So instead of moving forward, we look back.
jordan holmes
Smart.
dan friesen
And Harrison and Owen and Alex, Knights of the InfoWars roundtable.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
God damn it.
dan friesen
Harrison is Gawain.
So they are thinking about the good old days.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Back when they were huge.
Back when they were the biggest thing on YouTube.
Sure, sure, sure.
And they were like the Michael Jordans of bullshit.
And they had to take them out.
harrison smith
That was a crazy time.
We were still on YouTube and we'd be walking down the street in Austin, Texas, filming a live video, running into people, watching the live video on their phone, looking up and going, Hey, I'm watching you guys right now.
I mean, we were everywhere.
It was amazing.
alex jones
$35 million a day, conservative.
harrison smith
It was incredible.
alex jones
Like, non-derivative.
It was not like clips, like $35 million a day on the show.
owen shroyer
It was bigger show ever.
alex jones
Oh, it was great because we've won the fucking Indy 500.
We've been number one, which it wasn't about, but the truth was key.
But then they were saying on the race, it's like, we know we'll win the race.
So I've already won.
owen shroyer
It's like, you know, that's a great analogy.
I can't remember.
I mean, it was the Alex Jones show was 100,000 a day on the live stream.
Easy.
I could upload any video we did, million views overnight.
alex jones
You're really watering this down.
You had videos with 50 million views.
So did Paul Watson.
He had one with like 100 million views.
jacob chansley
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean, it was ridiculous.
Like, I'm like, oh, there's 50 million, 20 million, 30 million.
I could even keep track of them every day.
owen shroyer
It's like, you know, there's the rumors that, oh, you know, the NBA made Michael Jordan retire or whatever.
I don't believe that.
But that's kind of like, I mean, we were forced out of the game.
It was like, we were too good.
We were the perennial champs.
So they just, they said, you got to.
alex jones
I mean, you, you exposed Aid Skrillex to them.
owen shroyer
I mean, I'm going to, in fact, I'm going to, we're uploading that to my ex-account probably tonight or tomorrow.
We're going to upload the entire full AIDS Skrillex original exchange, hundreds of millions of views.
alex jones
And again, we're not trying to brag, folks, but people want freedom.
So we've already, like, Muhammad and I lead everybody.
We've already, you know, literally, it's just, it's insane.
It's just, it's like, so it doesn't feel bad when you get taken out of the game because you just win too much.
dan friesen
You win too much.
I was too good.
I was the Michael Jordan of bullshit on YouTube.
I was so good, and they made me stop, and then I made Space Jam.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
I mean, I think the, isn't it a conspiracy that he was gambling too much on NBA?
dan friesen
I have not looked into it too deeply, but that's what I remember here.
jordan holmes
Or just gambling too much.
He was, he, I mean, he's still a gambler.
The guy is obsessed with competing and winning shit.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Alex was gambling on YouTube views.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The man's insane, which I'm not meant with.
dan friesen
Now, here's something that's interesting that is behind the things that they're saying.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If you really listen to what Owen is putting forward, it's kind of like, man, it used to be so fucking easy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
I just put out videos of me yelling at somebody at a rally and we get 50 fucking million views.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is interesting in a sense because when you listen to people who have truly made an impact on it throughout their lives and their careers to the point where they have influenced an entire genre, you know, like everyone who follows has an influence of them.
That kind of thing.
If you're doing a certain type of music, you are influenced by Prince.
Right.
Right.
But these guys suck and they still did it, which is wild.
Right?
Like, they were terrible, but now everybody has to admit that there is an owing something to InfoWars.
dan friesen
There is a legacy of influence.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, but, well, maybe not owing.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's a little bit, it's a little bit like it's the Mendoza line.
Mendoza, love him or hate him.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He is going to live forever.
dan friesen
He's just good enough.
jordan holmes
He's just good enough.
Yep.
dan friesen
So this is a family show.
We know that because Alex has said it a bunch of times before he starts swearing.
Sure.
Talking about people pissing on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it might surprise you to learn that he was supposed to be hanging out with his family on Saturday.
And he canceled that to do this.
alex jones
The reason we're here on Saturday night, your family's here.
Chase's family's here.
We've all got family.
My wife's like, we were supposed to, you know, go out to the park today and go eat dinner.
This could be the final show.
I mean, literally yesterday they were going to padlock the doors.
Then they gave the orders again today and then their own people wouldn't follow them.
So I'll try to come back tomorrow at 4 p.m.
I don't know, but it's kind of like, wow, this place is special.
By the way, when this show's over, we should walk around and shoot a video of the tour and just talk about the history for five minutes because this should be our last time.
unidentified
You should.
alex jones
I mean, I'm going to get my family books.
owen shroyer
I'll probably do that.
Actually, I'm probably going to do that in 20 minutes is what I'm going to do.
alex jones
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like, because I've got like books I had when I was a kid here, I got to get my stuff out, man.
There's a good chance this place ain't here.
And everybody's like, oh, yeah, all right, this is a fucking stunt.
I don't pull stunts, man.
I pull revolutions.
Okay.
Another bottom blue.
Goodbye to you.
Okay.
Chase Gaiser, I see it on your head.
What do you want to say?
chase geiser
Well, I was just nodding my head because I was agreeing with what you said.
And I've been here for a year.
I've been listening to you, Alex, since 2021.
Basically, after January 6th, I started listening to Infowars because I lost all faith in traditional media shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, you sound cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that I don't pull stunts, I pull revolutions is right up there with Stone Buildings burned to the fucking ground, Daddy.
They're equally quotable.
No, I think the Eddie one's better.
jordan holmes
Stone Buildings burned to the fucking ground, Eddie, is just too good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's too good.
dan friesen
But it came out right.
Yeah.
I don't pull stunts.
I pulled revolutions.
jordan holmes
It did come out like he had, it was both a genuine thing that came off the top of his head, but also was like, yeah, man.
That's something you've been thinking about.
dan friesen
He always fucking says, I don't know how this is going to end, but if you want a war, you better believe you got one.
And it's so fucking annoying when you hear it.
And this is something that isn't the normal catchphrase.
Maybe I overappreciate that.
jordan holmes
No, you like it.
You like variety.
You're a novelty guy.
dan friesen
Sure.
That's why I don't like this.
Steve Bannon is on.
alex jones
Steve, you sent me a message.
I appreciate you reaching out.
Yeah, they tried to lock the building up last night.
I literally confronted the security that's part of my company and said, the law says this.
You have to have an order.
They're trying to even shut it down tonight.
And I see this all as the desperation of the deep state of what's going on.
We're a solvent company.
We have plenty of money.
We're in a federal court separately who the court appointed is trying to shut us down right now.
Steve, you're a really smart guy.
You're under a massive attack yourself.
You don't make a big deal about it.
But I mean, I just see this as an indicator of the enemy has launched the major assault.
We're seeing it everywhere.
The conviction of Trump, the show trial was their charge call.
And I think you probably agree with me, but people need to know this is it.
It's going down right now.
steve bannon
I think Drew was 100% correct.
I mean, look at the role you played in 2016.
The deep state absolutely knows the power of InfoWars, the power of your team, the power of you personally as a personal example.
So it doesn't surprise me at all.
They just moved on President Trump, and, you know, they're going to try to imprison President Trump or at least put him under house arrest so he can't campaign.
So now they're just going to knock down.
I mean, to them, this is the last scene in Godfather 1.
They're going to move on everybody.
dan friesen
How are you supposed to hear this if you're listening to this as an audience member?
The shit's going down.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
This is it.
jordan holmes
They've been telling me that it's going to start whatever blank.
unidentified
At a time.
dan friesen
At a time, eventually.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You'll know.
You have to admit that if you are telling me that there will be a time, then that time is this time.
dan friesen
You have Steve Bannon on your show, who's a giant figure in this world.
jordan holmes
The end of Godfather What?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
It's a little bit like, can you please start shooting?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's about as close to the only way we're going to keep all of our stuff as if we basically run the entire fucking world.
dan friesen
And we're only going to get there through terrorism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So, yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Bannon has an interesting idea, and that is that everybody should surround the InfoWars building.
And I think that this is because they want another standoff.
They want something like the Bundy Ranch or Ruby Ridge or something like that.
jordan holmes
Give it six months before they start throwing around, like, you know, the Taliban did win in the end.
You know, the Taliban won.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, you got to give it up to the Taliban.
dan friesen
That's going to be the name of Steve's next book.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe it.
alex jones
They could literally lock this up the next few days.
What is your advice to Infowars and our crew?
You say you'll send crew out here.
steve bannon
Right now, if you can't move to go someplace and do a pirate version of this, then let's get people down there and surround the building.
Make them come through a chain of Patriots.
Get people inside the building.
alex jones
That's what I'm going to do.
Our location's been somewhat secret, but I agree with you.
We need to surround the building and just make a big issue out of this.
steve bannon
And expose them.
Say, hey, get your lawyers down there.
Get your comms people down there.
Let's get the TV cameras.
These are cockroaches.
They can't, you put the cameras on them.
What are they going to do?
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
steve bannon
You have a chain of people outside to defend Alex Jones peacefully.
What are they going to do?
Put the cameras on them.
Expose them.
Let's see who they are.
Let's see what agencies they're coming from, what their auras are, and who gave them the orders.
dan friesen
They want some kind of flare-up.
They want to create a scenario that could easily get out of hand.
But I don't think anyone's going to do that.
This isn't an airhead situation.
jordan holmes
What are they going to circle up and start singing, We Shall Overcome?
dan friesen
Get out of here.
Now, I will say what?
I don't think I'm going to do this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But I have been thinking about: should I go to Austin?
Should I go surround the building?
unidentified
I mean, listen.
jordan holmes
Why, if they're going to change the locks, no reason we shouldn't get a key.
dan friesen
The answer isn't immediately no to whether I should go.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that sucks.
jordan holmes
That does really suck.
That does suck.
dan friesen
So Bannon is on.
He mentioned Drew.
That was Drew Hernandez, the baby reporter he called in.
And this is just a fascinating situation where we're just getting guests.
Guests are coming in.
alex jones
Thank you, Steve Bannon.
As soon as we said we were going to challenge him, they backed off.
They tried it again.
The security company that's separate, but they think they're taking orders said, no, we're not going to do it.
I mean, we are, and I've got tapes.
I've got it all.
It's so insane, folks.
This is the takeover of the Republic.
This is a live coup.
We've got Matt Bracken, who's a retired Navy SEAL best-selling author, who's on with us.
Let me tell you, this will be the last show.
I'm not here hyping that, folks.
I'm sleeping here at the office.
This is so horrible.
And because I know it's not about me, it's about America.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And I can't believe that we've got to this point.
These communist pieces of shit are shitting all over our country, but we're going to win this thing, folks.
But let me tell you, the full assault has been on.
Matt Bracken, you want to give us a comment?
matt bracken
I've been just, I can't stop listening for the last couple hours.
I'm just like, I'm so glad that this connection is still open and Daria clicked me in.
dan friesen
So this is the first of the crying attempts that we will see in this episode.
And also, Matt Bracken is not somebody that I've seen around InfoWars in quite a while.
He may have been on an episode I missed, but he's become real scarce since people started pointing out that he literally advocated for storming the Capitol on January 6th on InfoWars a week prior to the insurrection.
Right.
jordan holmes
Remember when we talked about that?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Matt has been a little bit less prominent in his parallels.
Alex having Matt Bracken on is an intentional choice here.
He's hoping that Matt says some incendiary shit because Alex is really hoping that someone does something he can call a false flag in the near future.
If it's just smooth sailing with no big attack before the election, that's kind of bad for Alex's business.
So he needs to try and ramp up the possibility of that.
At all, while giving frequent lip service to nonviolence and only wanting to kill his enemies politically.
You know, this is the game here.
He's bringing Matt in because he knows he has the potential for this.
jordan holmes
I mean, the best thing that could possibly happen for Alex is that one of his supporters kills somebody outside of his studio, and then Alex can claim that was a false flag engineered by the court.
And then, regardless of what happens with the rest of the thing, that's what Alex gets to hang his hat on for forever.
dan friesen
That would be good for him.
And then the other thing that would be good for him is if they like stormed him while he was on the show.
That would be what he's hoping happening.
jordan holmes
That would also be great.
dan friesen
But this is two hours now into the second stream.
Oh, boy.
It marks the first fake crying of the night, but certainly not going to impact.
This is a mess.
So Matt Bracken's on.
He doesn't say anything all that inflammatory.
Sure.
But Alex is trying to get him to be like, there's going to be false flags, right, Matt?
Right.
Of course.
But then we get another guest who is clearly more important than Matt Bracken.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
It's an epic moment.
I want to come back to you.
I want to come back to Matt Bracken, best-selling author, former Navy SEAL, great patriot in the moment.
But Roger Stone heard about what's happening.
I told him probably what was going on.
They literally were going to padlock the thing last night.
And I noticed extra security and people acting weird.
And I said, it was obvious to feel it.
The security guys are nice guys.
I know them.
They're like looking at me weird and really conflicted.
I called my lawyers.
I said, what's going on?
Well, we just heard they're shutting you down tonight at 7 o'clock.
This is, they're making their move out of desperation.
The coup is live, Roger Stone.
What do you think is happening?
unidentified
Alex, I guess in the larger sense, I'm not surprised at all.
dan friesen
Yeah, me neither.
So clearly, there's a pecking order, and Matt Bracken is no Roger Stone.
Roger, you get bumped for, you bump Bracken.
jordan holmes
Ah, that's fair.
That's a legacy.
dan friesen
He's trotting out all the stars tonight.
Like, it's a fucking wake.
jordan holmes
Does feel like it does feel like a this is your life episode.
dan friesen
Conspicuous in their absence.
I don't want anyone to think that they're going to show up.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
First of all, Larry Nichols is dead.
jordan holmes
That is definitely.
dan friesen
Don DeGrand Prix, dead.
alex jones
Dead.
dan friesen
Leo Zagami doesn't show up.
jordan holmes
No.
Old Man House phone?
dan friesen
In the wind.
Probably.
Steve Pieczenik doesn't show up.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Rogan doesn't show up.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
There are quite a few people.
jordan holmes
Tucker?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
He's mentioned a few times.
jordan holmes
Oh, I am.
dan friesen
Oh, here's the person who's most conspicuous in their absence: fake fucking Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is a good point.
He's on Twitter spaces.
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
He doesn't show up on Alex's final stream.
jordan holmes
Maybe Adrian's gotten kind of tired of being fake Elon Musk.
dan friesen
I would be.
So you also might notice in that last clip that Alex's story slightly changed.
That's because he's making all this shit up.
Now, apparently, the story is that he saw extra security, and this led him to call his lawyer, which is how he found out that they were shutting down InfoWars.
But earlier, he said that he saw a normal security guard acting weird, so he baited the information that they were bringing in more security that night out of him, which Alex then asked his lawyer about.
Sort of, that's one of the versions.
There isn't consistency here because this is a shoddily thrown-together stage show, and Alex is just trying to figure out the best exit for himself in terms of InfoWars, probably because he does not have money.
All he wanted to do here is be taken off air during the stream.
That would have been perfect.
That's the highest hope that he has for anything.
jordan holmes
Lock the doors.
dan friesen
It would have been the stuff of legend if he would have been able to be broadcasting on air for his own destruction.
jordan holmes
To be pulled out by like six fucking.
And essentially, he's talking about like British police officers from the 40s, you know, with the hats just wrapping off.
Boxer is 100%.
dan friesen
Yes.
That has not happened.
But Alex does have another guest.
And I noticed that Alex is hiccuping quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
He's in his cups.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
alex jones
If you will.
I'm Luca.
I'm going to come right back to you.
General Flynn, former head of defense intelligence, former top national security advisor, got in the space.
I don't know if he's ready yet, but yeah, it's a real canary in the coal mine that they are, I'm literally physically here and literally had to tell people coming to lock the doors, ordered without court orders to shut us down, that they were going to go to jail.
I'm literally physically here, slept three hours last night in this building.
I'm not putting on a big act here.
General Flynn, what do you think is happening?
michael flynn
Yeah, so number one, Alex, God bless you for doing everything that you've been doing.
I want everybody to understand that we really have to stop thinking conventionally.
unidentified
I mean, these people, this is a communist takeover.
dan friesen
We might need to think about terrorism.
unidentified
I mean, it is.
jordan holmes
Just fucking say you want to be terrorists.
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
It's pretty wild.
I mean, we got General Flynn, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone.
Wow.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is essentially these people saying, listen, we're not sure if terrorism will work, but we are sure that openly advocating for terrorism will not work.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But we would like to see if terrorism might work.
dan friesen
And we're going to do a whole lot of this, like predicting false flags in advance, just in case someone does do it.
Sure.
So our movement will be able to exploit that tragedy in a way that is still productive to us and doesn't derail things like Oklahoma City did.
And so we're just trying to be cool about that.
jordan holmes
If you were listening to me in the past, you would know that the present is a shooting war.
So don't listen to me in the present while I tell you that we should do things peacefully.
Listen to me in the past.
dan friesen
Listen to Flynn.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
So, yeah, now Alex is saying that he had to physically confront people who were coming to put locks on the doors, which must have happened in between the two streams.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate the physical conference.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
Because that has to be.
jordan holmes
There's no other time.
dan friesen
It wasn't the night before.
Nope.
So that's strange.
Also strange is that General Flynn is like, I thought Trump would be guilty on a few charges.
I didn't think 34.
That's pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
What?
michael flynn
Assume that they would only find him guilty on a couple of counts, right?
But when they came back with 34 counts, I was like, oh, my God, these people, they're even far more serious than even I could imagine.
But believe me, again, I want people to understand the big picture was eight years of Obama, eight years of Hillary Clinton, and we wouldn't be having X spaces talks, okay?
But Donald J. Trump got in the way in 2016, and he beat the odds.
He ran the tables, beat the odds.
unidentified
Exactly.
alex jones
So the American startover, General, this is so important.
unidentified
You're on record.
alex jones
It's true.
The whole game changed with Trump.
He backed him up seven, eight years, and now the world's waking up.
So what do we do to stop this?
Because, again, I'm not into myself.
I don't care.
But I get a canary in the coal mine.
They are literally trying to put padlocks on the doors right now.
I had to physically explain to people with guns that they didn't have an order to stop them.
Like, this happened today.
michael flynn
Well, I will tell you something that as soon as I heard about this, Alex, I sent a note to Ken Paxton in Texas, because I think Ken Paxton is a decent person.
I said, you guys in Texas ought to go jump on top of this shit and don't let the federal, don't let these federal thugs come into the state of Texas and do something without at least the Attorney General being informed about what the hell they're doing.
dan friesen
So General Flynn is enlisting Ken Paxton to help Alex with a fight he's having with his CRO.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
And Alex had to confront people who had guns who were trying to put a lock on the door in between these two streams while he was clearly drinking.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's a more fun, it's like I imagine that Orson Welles, when the people started getting their first few phone calls, it was like, oh, this is kind of fun.
This whole war of the worlds thing, people thinking, oh, aliens really attacking.
This is kind of fun.
It's more fun to live a story than it is to real life.
alex jones
It's true.
jordan holmes
You know?
So I imagine Alex has a lot of that.
Like, man, this would be, this is way more fun than reality.
unidentified
But it is.
dan friesen
It's what we've seen him do a lot with these kinds of ways that you live in a story.
It evolves and you get more confident with each retelling and there's more details and all of this stuff.
It's because it's folklore.
It's oral tradition.
jordan holmes
And depending on the listener, there is an amount of magic involved.
For each listener, there is a different level of magic that will be accepted.
Roger Stone does not hear that Alex psychically sussed out that this was going to happen.
Roger Stone here is a more accurate telling.
Not the accurate telling.
Not an accurate telling.
dan friesen
General Flynn probably gives a little bit more lip service to the magic.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
You can tell General Flynn a little bit more magic.
dan friesen
Steve Pieczenik would tell you to fuck yourself.
jordan holmes
He would not allow any magic inexplicably while giving you something that can only happen through magic.
dan friesen
He'd condescendingly tell you some shit about how Alex, you're a moron for thinking this.
I founded the state of Italy.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
I went back in time.
dan friesen
I knew Romulus' brother quite well because that person is me.
That seems within his range.
jordan holmes
That one's great.
That one's great.
That one goes right next to the stone building's burned down, Eddie.
dan friesen
So Flynn leaves.
All of these guest appearances are not that good, and they do feel like showing off a star in a television or something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But after Flynn leaves, Alex is he seems a little weird.
alex jones
That's the former head of defense intelligence, the former top national security advisor, the guy that ran the whole army.
The guys like the Grim Reaper, literally telling you what's going on right now.
And that's why I'm so proud to be here, folks, and not to bow when they tried to shut this down last night.
It's bigger than us.
We are here in an existential attack on America and the world.
And we are not bowing.
I'm so alive.
Oh, and it's so good to know you.
Harrison, it's so good to know you.
Chase Geyser, so good to know you.
All the rest of the crew.
You guys are like, literally, I thought you're me.
Like, when I think about the shitting now, it's like my arms being chopped off, my legs being chopped.
It's not some kiss your ass.
I literally think of you as me.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen.
Uh-huh.
If I was playing a clip earlier in the day, vehemently denying being an alcoholic.
dan friesen
And arguing about how your CRO called you drunk.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
I would definitely not show up on air later.
eddie bravo
Drunk.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's just me.
I guess there's some plausible deniability.
Maybe.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex goes to piss.
alex jones
Smart.
dan friesen
And while he's gone, Harrison complains about Ken Paxton.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
And then Alex storms back in.
harrison smith
Yeah, no, it's utterly pathetic.
I was saying that same thing about Ken Paxton in particular because he was one that on Twitter said this was a show trial or I don't know his exact words, but it was basically saying this is totally false.
This is a criminal activity.
And it's like, okay, if you really think that, then what are you going to do about it?
alex jones
Here's the bottom line, folks.
You ain't going to get nothing in life off kissing ass.
And we're in a full war here.
And you think I want to release the fucking audio I've got of the creepy ass liberal fucking Fed saying, oh, I got the fucking, you know, why don't we stole some money together?
I didn't want to fight with these people.
I tried to just move on from it.
At a certain point, you got to say, it's worse to bow down to this than to go along with it.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right, man.
So you already played some surreptitiously recorded audio of this.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
You haven't played the second one.
I guess he's decided he's not going to do that.
He's going to take it to the FBI on Monday, which is a direct contradiction of what he said he was going to do.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound obvious.
dan friesen
Kind of makes me feel like maybe that is a little embellished because I don't feel like the call even really lived up to his explanation.
No, So, yeah, Alex, I think he's a mess.
jordan holmes
I think he's got this one.
Yeah.
I think he's got this one in the back.
This is a confident man.
dan friesen
Remember how I said that he landed the plane smoothly on the first stream?
jordan holmes
I mean, I just don't understand.
It's like, it's an addiction.
He's an alcoholic.
dan friesen
Don't put that into court, Violet.
jordan holmes
I won't.
I won't.
Make his dad angry.
dan friesen
So, Alex wants Owen to tell the story of the attempted shutdown and the locks on the door and stuff like that.
Sure.
Because he asks him a number of times because I think he wants another perspective on it.
It's not just me saying this.
And Owen doesn't quite do what he wants.
alex jones
And for those that don't know, why don't you recap?
You guys have heard me describe it.
How would you describe what happened to M4 for 24 hours?
owen shroyer
Well, I would just, just to kind of finish up on what we're talking about here, you can't give in because you see what's coming.
If you give into this system thinking, well, this is the easy way out, or it's too hard to fight back, or I don't want to risk whatever it is.
Well, you don't understand.
You become a total slave.
alex jones
No, the new owner drops his stick in your face and says, dude, I'm telling you guys, we barely, I don't want to stay here tonight.
Now I'm going to go home to my kids and my wife.
I've got to stay here.
They literally tried to shut it down yesterday.
That's where my student in and today.
And I get we have this disease where we only cover outside attacks, which is a good disease.
That's how I am.
But now it's like we're down to the wire.
I got to tell you what's happening with us.
Like, do you guys understand?
Like, we like they have literally tried to order the shutdown of this.
dan friesen
I never talk about my own troubles.
I never focus preoccupations with my own petty dramas.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay, man.
jordan holmes
Maybe it's just a testament to how, you know, I suppose weak I am at controlling my emotions.
This is a me thing.
I don't understand how Harrison Smith and Owen can do it.
I just don't know how they can do it for this long without going, seriously, man, this is bullshit.
dan friesen
Keen awareness of unemployability.
jordan holmes
True.
That's probably got to be a big, big problem.
I mean, I am also unemployable.
dan friesen
Right.
But the salary that they get is probably egregious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
I'm unemployable on donations only.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So they're trying to take Alex off the air.
Again, I think that they is the CRO in concert with the FBI and maybe the CIA and everybody.
jordan holmes
You name it.
dan friesen
But they're trying to take him off air so he doesn't play this clip of McGill that he's already said he's not going to play and he's going to take to the FBI.
jordan holmes
But that's why they're going to take him off air.
I guess.
Okay.
alex jones
I got this big animal that's really bad.
I'm trying to constrain, and they keep messing with me to make me release it.
harrison smith
Like, we don't want to fight because we know we're going to win.
We don't want to put you people through that.
It's, they really don't.
alex jones
They're demanding it, though.
They're demanding it.
They got to be run over.
So, okay, well, you're going to get what you want, Tim.
I mean, I've got everything right here.
And the dumbasses think, shut the show down so he doesn't release it.
You dumbbasts.
They release a thousand places.
I'm Alex Jones, you dumbass.
He's just so stupid.
unidentified
Well, I think.
alex jones
Because they want to imagine they got the power.
dan friesen
Or you're imagining their motives.
Or you could just play it now.
harrison smith
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're on.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're live.
I mean, you have as large of an audience watching live as you probably ever will because people are tweeting about how you're drunk on air.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And how you're saying that Infowars is going to go out of business.
So a lot of people are like, oh, this is going to be bad.
jordan holmes
Ah, and it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so why not take the opportunity of the most people live watching this to play the evidence that they don't want you to play?
They're willing to shut you down to stop you from playing this.
Right.
I don't know.
It's just, it's in his head, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is bad.
Go home, dude.
dan friesen
No, you can't.
He's got to stay.
jordan holmes
No, okay.
Go home.
I know for a fact, you got a home studio.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And I think they've got an extra, they've got another studio, don't they?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's where Owen's sleeping.
jordan holmes
Let him take the big one.
Go downsize a bit.
dan friesen
You'll be fine.
Honestly, I think Chase Geyser is the one who I think would sleep there of the three nights.
I think Chase Geyser is the most committed.
jordan holmes
I don't know if Chase Geyser goes anywhere.
dan friesen
Oh, no, that's not true.
I've seen him on location.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Not in person, but I've seen video of him.
jordan holmes
So they do let him out of the basement.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So Jay Dyer comes on Twitter Spaces to thank Alex for having him on.
His big brand is that he reads books, the globalist books.
jordan holmes
I was trying to read books for a while.
Didn't go well.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't usually go great for him either.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And this leads to Alex doing another fake cry.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
unidentified
And again, I think you're going to emerge out of this much stronger.
Like you said, I hate it for the people involved in InfoWars.
I've been honored to be on that spot with you for the last four years, so I'm really appreciative of that.
alex jones
Well, I appreciate you to meet you.
It's so emotional because we've done so much good.
There's so many good people.
Now they're going to blow it all up.
I'm not a pussy.
We've had 30 years here and so much.
And to me, it signifies what's about to happen.
It's going to be so rough, Jay.
And I just, it just makes me sick.
unidentified
It's that OKC model that you've been talking about that when there was a rising populism at that time, they went to that OKC false flag model.
So I think that you're right about that warning.
alex jones
Speak to that because it's not hard to predict.
dan friesen
Right.
Or the right-wing militias and stuff were growing at a rapid rate in the 90s, inspired by things like Ruby Ridge and Waco, and the flames were fanned by people like Alex and his ideological brethren.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it came to a point where someone blew up a federal building.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or it was that nationalism and populism was ascendant and they had to false flag.
One of the two.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We'll never know.
dan friesen
Probably not.
So Owen is honored.
Also, it's really interesting to hear this cry thing at this point, eight years into doing this show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I remember the first time I heard it and how I was really worried.
And now I just hear it and I'm like, all right, just get to the part where you're mad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, you're just doing this in order to weave into something angry.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
We know the deal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Owen is honored to be able to be here on the last stand of InfoWars.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
They fucking want to be raided so bad.
jordan holmes
Go back to sports radio.
dan friesen
No.
He talks about that a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, does he?
dan friesen
He's glad he made the transition into Paul.
So they're just, I think they are aimless without them getting raided.
jordan holmes
That's what you're supposed to be doing.
dan friesen
Otherwise, this show could go on forever and you have nothing to talk about.
jordan holmes
They have to actually commit a crime, though.
They don't want to do the thing that gets them the punishment.
dan friesen
Right.
If they don't get raided, then I guess Alex can complain more about the CRO.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
What do you got?
Nothing.
jordan holmes
I want to be raided unjustly.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But because they're not doing it, I'm going to commit a crime and thereby be raided.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Anyway, Owen is honored to be there.
owen shroyer
To make that commitment eight years ago and to be completely vindicated and to ride this epic ride with you till the end.
It's truly an honor.
alex jones
It is.
And Vivian Kubrick, Stanley Gibrick's great daughter, sent me a link.
We were at the top of Twitter, top political trend just now, which is good.
So Freedom's popular.
owen shroyer
And it's right where we belong.
It's right where we belong.
And that'll be their final motivation to come padlock this studio because he did it.
alex jones
And that's why I wanted to just be here today.
I'm so glad you came.
jordan holmes
Because you did.
alex jones
I just wanted to have a celebration of the great work we've done.
And them shutting us down won't be a victory, folks.
Believe me, I'm going to release all the stuff.
I got their ass.
But it's just, they're just desperate.
dan friesen
It's going to be disappointing if Alex doesn't release that stuff on this stream.
And if he doesn't get raided.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
They've really set unrealistic expectations for how this is going to end.
jordan holmes
I mean, when you set it up so that shutting you down is a victory, it is also the only victory because it's shutting you down.
You can't victory more after or before that.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's only that.
dan friesen
Now, I should tell you something about Owen.
jordan holmes
He's actually secretly an incredible broadcasting talent.
dan friesen
Nope.
Oh, for reasons that are unclear to me, he decided to live stream this as well because I think that they thought that they were going to get interrupted and you'd have multiple angles of the end of InfoWars or something.
So he has a camera set up next to him that is facing.
You can see him.
And then in the background, you see Alex sitting next to him and then Harrison Smith over there.
Right.
Now, this will become very important in a moment because something definitely happens.
Okay.
And we'll discuss that in a moment.
But for now, Alex is going to talk a little bit more about McGill.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This clip that he's not playing.
And then he gets really, really mad and swears a bunch.
alex jones
We've got it all happening right now.
And these idiots think, like, I don't want to burn these people.
I don't want to be an asshole.
But I'm like, wait, you just, you just told me to just take money and hide it?
I go to the bathroom.
I come back, bloop.
And it's like, it's like, I got your ass, dude.
Like, I don't want to burn you down, but you're going to make me burn you down.
You're watching right now.
Like, dude, I'm burning you down.
harrison smith
You're going to make me burn you down.
That's it.
alex jones
It's like, whoa, you want a fucking war?
You got one.
I'm not part of your fucking bullshit, fucking dick-sucking New World Order, dude.
Like, this is war.
This is the real world, dude.
This is real people.
Real people, man.
Like, I'm real.
Like, I'm real.
I'm right here.
You understand?
I'm not here playing down to you, and I'm here to be a pussy.
You fucking raping the ass.
No, dude, you fuck me.
You get a fucking war.
You understand now?
Alex Jones, like a fucking rhinoceros, is coming.
You got it?
So that's where you are.
And now the rhinoceros is coming.
So play your fucking games, gaslight me all day.
You get war.
You get war and a little more on top of the war.
In closing, let's go to some more spaces, people.
Let's do it because we can be shut down tomorrow.
Oh, they'll have their big victory.
It'll be all over Bloomberg and AP.
Alex Jones' thing shut down.
Whatever bullshit store they have.
Fuck you.
owen shroyer
That'll be our victory.
alex jones
Oh, fuck you.
I'm telling you, like, war.
You want war?
You got war.
Do it.
dan friesen
So if you listen to that, it sounded like there might have been an edit in there.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I actually, I went and I watched the video, and there isn't.
Alex just switched gears from that like war and rhino shit into like, let's go to calls.
unidentified
They just did.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's just shifting mood that quickly.
alex jones
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Now.
jordan holmes
I can't believe somebody would call him an alcoholic.
dan friesen
Okay, it's brutal.
It's unbelievable.
It's awful.
So undignified.
So on that note.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Owen's stream.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Now, I watched this on Alex's, and this is where I'm taking the InfoWars audio that I'm using.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
It came to my attention later that Owen did this stream.
And if you go watch it, there's some things you learn.
Now, I couldn't watch the entire thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I haven't watched all of Owen's thing.
But I did watch enough to see Alex smoking cigarettes in the studio.
All right.
Very clearly signaling for them to take the camera off him and then smoking a cigarette.
Right.
Talking while one of the guests is talking.
Like someone else who's on the phone is talking and Alex is like, I got their asses and shit like that.
And at one point, Alex is making horrible sounding noises, gurgling and like, and then he pulls his shirt as if he can't breathe in his shirt, starts like sort of scratching his chest, appears to throw up in his mouth.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
And at this point, Owen turns the camera away from Alex so it's only on himself and you hear what appears to be Alex vomiting in the background.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So I can't prove that Alex threw up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I can't do that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But what I can say is that there's a lot of circumstantial evidence.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They edit around it incredibly well.
And actually, in the InfoWars version that comes out, you wouldn't even hear Alex coughing and gurgling and throwing up his mouth.
These disgusting noises.
jordan holmes
I mean, what's crazy is maybe we have been underestimating this crew for a long time.
dan friesen
I think their editors might be good.
jordan holmes
Maybe they are fucking incredible and just the level of taxation upon them is such that they still make mistakes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's not mad at the crew and he shouldn't be.
jordan holmes
No, they're amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Because I think if you watch just the InfoWars version, the one that's on banned.video, you would not come away with a suspicion that Alex threw up in the middle of this.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
But if you watch Owen's, you know, you're pretty convinced.
Now, here's where I came into a little bit of difficulty.
I didn't watch the whole thing on Owen's thing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I could tell that there's definitely probably at least a few points where Alex says something pretty fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I imagine there is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was not able to scour it because it's a four additional hours of the same thing.
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like that would be incredibly brutal to watch.
jordan holmes
I would stop you if you tried.
dan friesen
Now, I was trying to, or I thought about, I don't want to sit here and tell you that Alex probably threw up on the show and not substantiate that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At the same time, it's only audio and it's gross noises.
Well, so I'm not playing that.
It's still on Owen's Twitter.
Okay.
So if you want to go watch it, you can.
It's about at the three-hour 56 minute mark of the live stream that Owen posted.
And you can see Owen look so fucking sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He looks like, what are we fucking doing?
jordan holmes
You should be.
dan friesen
Yeah, because I think Alex is drunk throwing up next to him while they pretend to be doing their last broadcast.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
You should feel sad.
This is awful.
dan friesen
It really is.
It is truly a, like, it's up there with that stream he did where he was incapacitated with Paul Joseph Watson.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like it's up there in terms of like the this is.
jordan holmes
You have an obligation as a human being to another human being to stop this.
And if you are not doing that, then you're the problem.
dan friesen
And you know what?
I used to say that quite a bit, and I kind of still agree with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I think I've said my piece on that and trying to have concern where to stop my place.
nick sortor
Right.
dan friesen
I will say instead, what I'm focused on is pretending that this isn't the case and what's going on.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
While you're trying to pretend, oh, we're staunch, very serious journalists.
We're the only people who ever tell the truth.
Go fuck yourself.
You're sitting next to Alex while he's smoking cigarettes and throwing up on air.
Get the fuck out of here with that pretense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not talking about his life, to be clear.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm talking about the show.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As a person, you would be like, let's just not have this on for the world to say, we're all listen, we're all fucked up.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Every one of 100% of us have had fucked up days exactly like what Alex is going through.
The difference is, well, not exactly like that, but we've all had bad days.
But we didn't broadcast them to the world because we probably had a good friend who was like, hey, don't fucking broadcast this the world.
dan friesen
If you had a really good friend, or a competent CRO, sure.
You might land the plane from the first stream and be like, I went out classy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I went away today.
I don't need to try and get shut down live on air.
I don't need to do this.
We can let that stand.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But instead, they do this and do four fucking hours of nonsense with a cavalcade of all-stars.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
Speaking of all-stars, Weirdo, Pizzagate enthusiast, Liz Kronkin is on.
Liz Kroken?
unidentified
Kronkin?
jordan holmes
What's her name?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know the name.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
From the internet.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
I don't know what she does.
dan friesen
She's, I think, a Pizzagate weirdo.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I know that.
Still?
Because that Pizzagate is in her Twitter bio.
jordan holmes
I will be goddamn.
dan friesen
And listen to what she says on Alex's show.
unidentified
Oh, man.
Hi.
liz crokin
How are you guys doing?
Can you hear me okay?
alex jones
Yeah, Liz, we hear you.
unidentified
I'm okay.
liz crokin
Alex, we need you to stay strong.
No more crying.
You are in very good company.
We have.
unidentified
Hold on.
alex jones
My crying was real.
jordan holmes
This is a thing that someone says when they're reading.
alex jones
It's real.
It wasn't a fake thing when I did that.
So I can't help it.
liz crokin
I know.
I know.
But you're in good company because there are a lot of people in this chat that have been persecuted, harassed, threatened, intimidated the same way that you have been.
I know that they have been messing with you for years.
I know that demon piece of shit, James Alephantis, has threatened you.
He did the same thing to me.
dan friesen
James Alephantis, of course, the guy who owns Comic Ping Pong Pizza, where Pizzagate was still doing it.
It's pretty impressive.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's been a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a long time to hold a grudge.
dan friesen
And I would refer everyone back to what you were saying earlier about the apologies that Alex issues when James Alephantis sued him.
Yep.
And how you can just pretend, oh, he had to say that.
I still believe that he believes the same things I do.
alex jones
You bet.
dan friesen
It's perfect.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, Liz comes and goes.
unidentified
Good.
dan friesen
Don't care.
jordan holmes
She needs to be gone.
dan friesen
Pizzagate weirdo.
So we get another luminary, another huge guest.
jacob chansley
Now, I want to throw something out there.
dan friesen
Real quick.
I forgot that they didn't introduce him.
This is the Q shaman.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
jacob chansley
As far as an idea of what we can do, every man, woman, and child in this country that is against tyranny, I think I talked to you, Alex, about this on the interview that we did, but I will just say it one more time.
Each and every single capital in the United States, like Washington, D.C., is built on electromagnetic ley lines.
And these ley lines have certain levels of spiritual power over our thoughts and our emotions.
And that's why they build these capitals on these ley lines and they try to pass law that affect our behavior, our thoughts, and our emotions.
So I'm proposing, like what I do every single Saturday here in Phoenix, is going down to our state and local capitals, assembling on the ley lines for prayer and meditation.
So that when you're Jacob, I know who you are.
alex jones
We've had you on.
People should follow you.
It's great.
I know it's all true.
Leylin's all that.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
alex jones
What is your view on what's currently happening with the assault on Trump, the assault on America, the New World Order?
We get to Leyline stuff.
Give us your take on that.
dan friesen
Hey, hippie, you dumb fuck.
I don't care about that stuff.
Ley lines burned down, Eddie.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, I think part of the problem with what, I mean, it's what we're talking about.
Like, just being able to, you can just say it.
You can just say, I'm sorry.
You don't have to.
Like, the QAnon shaman guy wrote this long-ass letter for his sentencing, apologizing, taking responsibility, learning lessons, etc.
dan friesen
Now he has like an academy online.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Like, do you know why you can just lie?
Because we allow you to.
It's totally fine.
dan friesen
Free speech, baby.
jordan holmes
If you were, if we had a system that held people accountable for lying like that, like if QAnon shaman shows up and then the court just goes, oh, well, then all the things that I said because of this letter are now gone.
dan friesen
Timeout.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Timeout.
jordan holmes
Like, that's consequences for being a lying piece of shit.
dan friesen
Timeout.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Did anything in his letter say I'm not going to pray and meditate at the ley lines that are under our state capitals?
Because maybe he's not contradicting his apology letter.
I have to admit, I've not read his whole apology letter.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
If this is the world all of you want to live in, I'll just go back to trial by combat by myself.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex is probably thrown up.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's a mess.
Yeah.
And he's decided he's staying in the studio overnight.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And now he decides I'm going home.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm probably going to drive him home.
alex jones
Next person.
All right, go to the next person.
Because hey, I'm going to go home tonight.
I'm not going to stay here like last night.
I couldn't sleep good on that couch.
I've got a big cricket on my back.
If they shut us down, it is, we're here.
This is the last show.
I'm so glad we're here celebrating the history of InfoWars, 30 years on air.
And it's just, it's the enemy.
It's going to, God's going to turn towards good.
owen shroyer
You'll be here tomorrow.
unidentified
I think so?
owen shroyer
I believe it.
alex jones
Yeah.
owen shroyer
God's going to give you at least another day for sure.
alex jones
Okay.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
I hope you're right.
dan friesen
I hope you're right.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would God give him one more day?
dan friesen
Because there's always one more day, right?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Hope springs eternal.
unidentified
Whatever.
dan friesen
Listen, this is a bad couch.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does feel like if you are going to declare war about all this shit, then you cannot be mad at a bad.
Like, you can't have one bad night's sleep and be like, ah, I'm out of here.
dan friesen
I declare war.
I'm going to take it to these evil New World Order Satanists.
I am committed 100%.
They will not shut this place down the second I leave this place.
They're going to put padlocks on the door.
I'm going home because that couch sucks.
jordan holmes
I'm reminded of one of Alex's favorite people, the person that he admires a great deal, George Washington.
And I'm reminded of Valley Forge when it was really cold that first night and they were like, fuck this.
And now we're a British colony.
dan friesen
At that moment, Colonel Travis was like, that couch sucks.
jordan holmes
Bullshit.
I'm out.
dan friesen
This cot hurt my back.
jordan holmes
Honestly, guys, this isn't even our country.
dan friesen
So there's a fair amount of language, I'd say, throughout everything.
Probably the rest of this.
There's a lot of swearing and Alex saying wild shit.
But here he fake cries a little bit more, and then, of course, turns immediately into an outburst of anger.
jordan holmes
Yep.
owen shroyer
Trump is going to blow the lid off of the UFC event tonight.
That's going to be insane.
The whole arena is going to go crazy.
30,000 screaming people.
And then I think after that, the next big thing, then they'll probably padlock.
That's kind of how I feel.
The shift is going to happen.
alex jones
Yeah, it's wild, man.
I love the crew.
I'll just say that.
I think the crew is like me.
That's my arm.
It's like, well, this guy, I love this guy.
I love this girl.
owen shroyer
Like decommissioning the Millennium Falcon.
alex jones
Yeah, it's like, that's mine.
That's mine.
owen shroyer
They get the Millennium Falcon back eventually, Alex.
unidentified
I'm so pissed off.
alex jones
I'm trying to cry as a fake thing, man.
I'm so sick of these people.
All we're trying to do is save America, and they're fucking us over over and over again.
And it's just so sick.
It's sick.
It's sick.
And I don't want to leave.
I don't want to leave because it's going to be over, folks.
And I'll come back bigger than ever, but it's like my baby, and I'm watching them rape it because they're fucking assholes.
You fucking pussies, man.
So I'm going to release a fucking video.
I'm going to release a fucking audio on you.
I'll get you, motherfucker.
You better fucking be sorry about that.
Go ahead.
owen shroyer
I don't know how you follow that.
alex jones
I'm just telling you, man, I am not taking it lying down.
I don't know how to do it.
I'm not built to suck your dick.
I'm not built to meant.
I'm not.
I'm built for war, motherfucker.
And I will not fucking battle you.
I will fuck.
God damn, you fucking assholes, man.
All fucking son of bitches.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Fucking fucking assholes.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Who's up next?
dan friesen
Let's go to another call.
jordan holmes
Go ahead and come it up, bomb.
dan friesen
Shit.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I mean, I'm always reluctant to say I feel for Owen.
Sure.
But in that moment, that's a tough situation.
jordan holmes
Bullshit.
That is an easy situation.
That is a tragically easy situation.
dan friesen
How do you play?
jordan holmes
How do you follow that?
With yeah!
dan friesen
The end right you antagonize.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
That's it.
That's all you have to do.
dan friesen
Now, here's what's interesting.
Yeah.
That was something that Owen failed to do.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
When Alex was having this moment.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He could have hit the ball back to him.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
But instead, he said, I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
You can't follow that.
jordan holmes
I'm a quitter who sucks.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, let's see what happens when Chase has a very similar opportunity.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
I'm completely cross-eyed, crazy, exhausted, and I can't.
I'm literally here like watching a family member die, like 30 years on air, 27 years is Operation 15 years in this building.
And I'm literally, when I know I leave tonight, they're going to shut us down.
Maybe it's tomorrow, the next day.
I just want people to know I love you.
I believe in you.
I believe in humanity.
I believe in my grandparents.
I believe in my parents.
I believe in humanity.
unidentified
I just want to stop these people.
alex jones
They got to be stopped.
unidentified
We got to stop them.
So at the end of the day, we're going to beat these people.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
unidentified
These people hate our children.
Sure.
Stay where goes good.
alex jones
There's an expert because we can't give up now.
We have to keep going.
We have to stay here.
We have to let them shut us down.
We have to stand all the way to the end, and we're going to win.
chase geiser
Jones, I think everybody needs a war cry, man.
Can you muster all of that?
alex jones
It's a big joke.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not really, though.
unidentified
I mean, it is, but it isn't.
chase geiser
It's also inspiring.
alex jones
My mother completely goes, but it's fine.
It's my resistance to them.
It's a gosh transmission.
It's a human under attack.
unidentified
All right.
chase geiser
All right.
Let's go to one more slide from Myron.
Myron, what's on your mind?
dan friesen
Holy shit.
So that's not much better than what Owen did.
That had big energy of like a washed up comedian who's like, do your bit.
Do the thing that you did on that show.
jordan holmes
It's very toady.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very much like a do the war cry, Alex.
jordan holmes
You could have, you had your moment to like pump him up.
dan friesen
You had that's what that was.
jordan holmes
I think he did too, but that's real sad.
dan friesen
Yeah, especially Alex's response.
It's just a big joke.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it's somebody who's believing themselves.
dan friesen
I don't want to be your clown.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the feeling that comes through with Alex.
This is a big joke.
My dumb war cry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is a dumb war cry, and you are a clown.
That is.
dan friesen
I can't argue with that.
jordan holmes
But that's what Chase is doing, though.
Chase is a believer.
No, Chase is a believer.
Chase is like, it's not a big joke.
dan friesen
I think Chase would like to be inspired by a war cry.
jordan holmes
He would.
He would like, he believes, and Alex is the only one there, and I assume Owen, that knows it's bullshit.
dan friesen
I think Harrison might too.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but he's like, I'm a Nazi, so who cares?
dan friesen
So Myron is on.
That was the next person.
Sure.
He, I believe, I don't fully know.
I kind of know this tangentially.
I believe that he's one of the hosts of the Fresh and Fit podcast, which is a fairly big podcast.
Maybe a bit misogynistic type of dude stuff.
I don't know.
I haven't looked deeply into it, but I generally don't hear great things.
jordan holmes
When dudes are doing dude shit, it's not good.
dan friesen
So he is like, we want to support you, Alex.
You know, we're going to do whatever we can.
And Alex is like, fuck it.
All right.
Here's what everybody needs to do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The assault is now.
The enemy is coming.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
You understand?
It's here.
michael flynn
This is it.
alex jones
You understand me?
It's not about me.
The enemy is coming.
We're the carrying of the coal mine.
Go ahead and finish up.
I'm going to finish up.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
unidentified
I mean, whatever you guys need, you guys need anything for Fresh and Fit, man.
michael flynn
You tell me.
alex jones
I'll tell you.
InfoWars is overrun.
Supporting InfoWars store, it's done.
We're overtaken.
Maybe we fix it.
I'll tell you day one, it's happened.
It's gone.
We're overrun.
Enemies all over us.
My dad said two years ago, he's smarter than I am.
He said, you're going to be shut down.
I'm starting a thing.
Dr. JonesNaturals.com as our sponsor of the next level.
We don't even need much money.
We've already got emergency stuff backed up.
We're going to continue on no matter what happens here.
But I need anyone that cares about what we're doing.
I can't even believe how epic this is.
Like, it's a no-brainer.
We have probably 5 million people watching right now.
Less than 1% will buy a goddamn tube of toothpaste or incredible products we've got.
Go to drjonesnaturals.com.
I'm not bitching.
I'm like, you want a revolution, man.
You want victory.
You want fucking war against fucking terrorists?
You fucking got people that are ready to fight, man.
I mean, I'm fucking completely war-driven against these people.
I fucking knocked my earpiece out.
I am completely, somebody come on my earpiece, put in my ear.
I am completely war-driven.
dan friesen
Somebody put my earpiece back in.
It's a little bizarre.
But, I mean, this is really one of the main thrusts, I think, of Alex's priorities right now, which is stop giving money to InfoWars.
I'm not going to get it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Give it to my dad.
This is the way of the future.
InfoWars is dead to me as a business entity.
So fuck that shit.
Go to Dr. Jones Naturals.
And I mean, I think this is a little aggressive.
I think it's a little bit angry.
I remember when I did stand-up, and I'm sure you've learned this lesson or been told this, that never lash out at the audience that is there about the audience that isn't there.
Sure.
Never lash out at the people who are buying products by complaining about everybody else not buying fucking products.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make any sense.
They're the ones there to support you.
dan friesen
The only thing, you're not going to get those people.
You're not going to translate that into sales, probably.
jordan holmes
They're gone.
dan friesen
And you run the risk of alienating the people who are buying it.
It's not a good idea.
jordan holmes
Build your core audience.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think Alex is failing to do that now because who cares?
The ship's going down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, that is such an interesting thing that's probably wrong, right?
We've done that, built the core audience, makes sense for us strong, right?
But they build the weak audience and then make millions upon millions of dollars, you know?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So, like, some of them, it makes sense to do that stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It does make sense to be a whiny baby.
dan friesen
No, I think, I think, you know, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and I think that Alex's model has clearly shown to be far more profitable.
jordan holmes
Ah, but now that we're in the totality of said model that has a beginning, middle, and end, we can very clearly see that, yes, the middle may be nice.
dan friesen
But there's this.
jordan holmes
There's this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So I'll stick with the way we do stuff.
dan friesen
You don't want to do this?
alex jones
I am totally fucking committed to our species.
I am totally fucking committed against Satanists.
I have hate the new world order with every ounce of my body.
I don't support these people.
And all I'm saying is, will you support us in this fight?
Dr. JonesNatural.com.
I will release all the video.
I will release all the shit on these fucking people that fucking think I'm going to bow down to them and suck their fucking dick.
It ain't fucking happening.
They want a fucking war.
Yay, better believe they got one.
And I'm sorry for all the cussing, folks, but I am beyond bullshit level.
I'm beyond Mr. Fucking nice guy shit.
That's all over now.
unidentified
Total war.
alex jones
Total war is what they want.
Total war is what they get.
So if you support what I'm doing, DRJonesNaturals.com to support the tip of the spear and the fight for the human destiny in the future of the world.
And I'm done talking about it.
And I appreciate you all.
You guys can go on and take more calls.
I'm going to end this right now.
And I'm just, I'm fucking done.
I'm done.
I appreciate everybody.
You guys close the comments.
Go ahead.
owen shroyer
Well, every moment we have here at Infowars shall not be taken for granted.
dan friesen
Very beautiful words.
Remember a little bit ago, Alex was making fun of Flat Earth Dave.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
So much more fun than this.
unidentified
Yep.
owen shroyer
Yep.
dan friesen
This sucks.
He's so angry.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Angry ass plugging.
jordan holmes
Just I think that's why I'm far less concerned about any kind of coup or civil war or anything than anybody else.
It's just simply like, at no point in time has any civil war ever been financed by Dr. JonesNaturals.com.
dan friesen
No, I don't know if I agree with that.
jordan holmes
But more specifically, the leaders of said war are not giving speeches that include multiple pugs.
Plugs.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
That's the issue.
Shea was never like, and also I've got a new line of clothing.
dan friesen
But do you know if there was some shit talker that history has forgotten who was around when Jay was around?
jordan holmes
I mean, Fidel was shit talking quite a bit.
dan friesen
Did he have a radio show with his dad's sponsor?
Or Raul.
Was Raul a sponsor on Fidel's show?
jordan holmes
Fucking fucking hell.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
So Alex was just screaming some obscenities, and he seems to be really preoccupied with dick sucking.
Seems to be, you know.
jordan holmes
Eh, you know, that's what happened.
unidentified
These guys from where they're from.
jordan holmes
But whatever.
I was raised with a lot of those guys, so I know those guys.
dan friesen
It's coming to the surface in a way that it is not always there.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That anger.
Right.
And so you'd be surprised to learn who Alex believes his audience to be.
alex jones
The only audience I ever have on is God.
I never talk to the audience.
I love the audience.
I love you guys, but I never talk to the audience.
I'm like in front of God every day on air.
I have one fucking viewer.
Scott.
jordan holmes
Nice.
alex jones
Does that make sense?
unidentified
Nice.
owen shroyer
Yep.
alex jones
No, finish your point.
I was interrupting.
owen shroyer
No, that's it.
That's the point.
They can decommission the Millennium Falcon.
alex jones
It's kind of weird to shut this down because I don't think we're going to be, I think it's over.
Like, folks, two days, I've had to live here to stop them.
I've had to literally convince police and shit not to shut us down.
And say, you don't have an order, like, don't do it.
Like, this is going on.
You guys are here.
Like, people don't know.
Like, this is, I don't hype you, man.
I would never lie to you in a minute.
This is going down.
dan friesen
You're designed to hype.
How can you say we're not hyping?
jordan holmes
This is rude.
This goes against everything.
dan friesen
He went to dinner with Mario Nafoal the night before.
Like, he didn't, he'sn't been living at the studio for days.
It probably feels that way at this point, but this is ridiculous.
They want to be raided so bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because now you're getting to the late hours of the stream.
You've run out of gas.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex is clearly on the other side of the drunk.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And oh, and Harrison don't want to be there.
jordan holmes
I mean, how could they possibly still be there?
He can't fire you anymore.
He doesn't even run his own business.
The chief resource officer is probably.
Well, I mean, actually, I'm surprised he hasn't fired Harrison Smith at least, right?
dan friesen
He's probably got something in the contract.
So Alex had said, like, you guys take some calls.
I'm a fucking idiot.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He's done.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, he is.
He's literally done.
dan friesen
Except he's not.
Oh, got to do 20 more minutes.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
alex jones
So finish up, Owen.
I can't shut down.
We're going to 20 minutes because this is probably the last show ever.
I can feel it.
You see it.
They fucking are ready to come in.
This is fucked up, man.
This is.
We're here.
We're right now.
This is because I could easily shut down right now, Owen.
But when you drive away tonight, you're going to wish you said something.
What do you want to say about your life and your family and who you are?
And then Harrison Smith.
Let's just keep going.
Let's just because they don't want this.
This is the final moments, man.
unidentified
Sure.
owen shroyer
Well, I guess every day you wake up, you ask yourself, is America worth fighting for?
Is freedom worth fighting for?
And if your answer is yes, then the rest, the rest follows.
I mean, that's it.
That's it.
That's why we do what we do here.
That's why the crew's here.
That's why you're here.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't even know if I mean, we're here at the end, brother.
alex jones
Like, literally, we're the Alamo.
They're fucking like we're going down.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So Owen thinks he's on a different show.
I think.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
He's trying to be a little bit serious.
That's happening.
Kind of sad.
But here's as we get towards the end.
Alex keeps asking them for their final words.
jordan holmes
Closing thoughts.
dan friesen
No, but it's like it's elevated to such a level because this is our last show ever.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
What are your final words?
jordan holmes
What is the last thing you're doing?
dan friesen
What do you regret not?
jordan holmes
Just bury us already.
Just go.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
We're at the Alamo.
We're going down, man.
jordan holmes
I don't know how you could do that.
Like, that's what I'm saying.
How could you be Owen and at four hours in blank or whatever it is, be like, well, if you care about America, then you, you know, like, make it fun for yourself.
You got to make it fun, man.
dan friesen
Here's what I think.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I have nothing to back this up.
So please know that this is shit talking.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't watch a ton of Owen these days.
I watched a bit more of him in the past.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And in the past, especially in the early times that he was on InfoWars, he was doing an Alex impression.
Yeah.
He was trying to be like Alex.
And I think that at some point he decided, I don't want to do that.
And so he's doing his own thing.
He's doing something a little bit different than just pretending to be Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know if it was the trial.
I don't know if it was him getting arrested because of January 6th.
I would say that a possibility is when Alex got drunk and didn't make his own speech at that event that Nick Fuentes ended up taking over.
jordan holmes
That'd be a good one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That was a night where Owen had to carry a lot of weight.
He didn't expect to.
I feel like there might have been some growth experiences through that and being able to see someone who's younger in Harrison.
Like Harrison is in the him role from when he started.
Sure.
He sees this from the other side and realizes, I don't want to abuse this guy the way that's not usually the way of things.
jordan holmes
Usually, the way of things is he abuses him in exactly the same way.
dan friesen
I told you I have nothing to back that shit.
jordan holmes
That's fair enough.
Fair enough.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
dan friesen
I'm imagining why he's not doing an Alex impression anymore.
jordan holmes
It is interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I will say that.
dan friesen
Something happened.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I think it's probably good because the Alex impression goes nowhere.
jordan holmes
I think what's funny about that is that when there are so many moments for a person to learn maybe a lesson that doesn't even need to be learned.
dan friesen
Right.
Anything could be a transformative source or something.
jordan holmes
Because it's all there's a million of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex can't decide: should I stay or should I go?
alex jones
Go.
dan friesen
Oh.
He probably should go.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he can't because then the show's over forever.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
Even though I know we'll come back bigger, I can't play along the lie that, oh, we'll just be bigger when he comes back.
This place means so much to me.
And I just hovers take everything we said today and clip it and put it out.
I hope people are making a big deal about it because this is epic.
This is the assault on your speech, what you believe.
In fact, we already said this, but you guys decide.
We have this right now or we take a few more people.
We should shut it down.
It's probably the last thing here.
Because we're here right now.
Do we keep going or do we shut down?
chase geiser
You're rodeo, Jones.
jordan holmes
That's a little serious.
unidentified
Let's go home.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying, Alex, let's go home.
alex jones
Fucking hours.
jordan holmes
I can't say it.
No.
alex jones
I don't want to stop.
And so I know that we're all, it's like we're shooting.
You said the Alamo.
We're the fucking parapets, the Alamo.
I just, I don't even know what to say.
It's like, it's so insane.
dan friesen
So this is a mirror of that episode where Alex got really drunk like years ago.
The 2017 episode that The Ways to Learn and the Seaman on the Skull, the art piece.
jordan holmes
Truly a great one.
dan friesen
Now, that night, it was much later.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that night, Roger Stone was also there.
Interesting parallel.
But that night, Rob Dew was with him, and Rob clearly wanted to leave.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was a let's end this.
I've got my coat on.
jordan holmes
Let's do this.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think that that is what Chase was.
I think he was hoping Alex would say, fuck it, we're going all night.
Because I think Chase is as much of a true believer as you think.
jordan holmes
Chase is a believer, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Chase is fucked, man.
Chase has got a lot of bad news coming his way in the future.
dan friesen
Now, here's what I kind of base that on.
Because I have some unfair information.
Sure.
And that is, Chase is like, we're rocking.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
But that thing is, I don't care about the scum.
They're like pieces of shit.
Like, I don't even want to stomp them to death.
But they politically demand I do this.
So I'm just here at the fucking end of 30 years of this operation, this whole crew, everything we're doing.
And I see these idiots.
Do you know what I understand what's about to happen?
I just have trouble turning loose.
I'm going to be honest about it.
unidentified
Case, you want to end it right now?
chase geiser
I'm not going to be the one that ends this broadcast.
Let's go to fucking muckraker.
Muckraker in spaces.
Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you got to say.
dan friesen
That sigh from Alex makes me think that he wanted Chase to end it.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is.
We were talking about this, or I was telling you about the World War II, what is it?
Superior, the thing where the commander would be pressured by his subordinates, not because of making a good decision or because of what they say, but because the commander doesn't want to look poor in front of the subordinates after all of this stuff.
So Alex literally cannot, in the face of Chase Geyser, a true believer, go, honestly, I just want to go home, buddy.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because this is the last show ever.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
This is the end of 30 years.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
We are doing a war against the CRO, apparently.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And so, yeah, of course, Alex can't, but you know what he could have done?
Not gotten back on air.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It would have been totally fine.
jordan holmes
Would have been fine.
dan friesen
But now he's in a situation where he's been on air for like six, seven, eight hours or something.
Yep.
Total because we didn't even listen to the Bilderberg party.
jordan holmes
Exhausted.
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Drunk.
dan friesen
Wants to go home because the couch sucks.
Oh.
jordan holmes
Such a bad day.
dan friesen
But you need Chase to be the one to say, yeah, all right.
We've done it.
jordan holmes
Alex, it's time for you to go home and get a well-deserved rest.
Right.
That's what you want to do.
dan friesen
I'll stay here for you.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
We'll keep the lights on or whatever it is.
dan friesen
But Chase go home.
Chase is an ideolog.
He believes in the image of Alex.
So he's like, no, you know what?
You want me to keep your feet to the fire.
So we're going to talk to Mucka.
jordan holmes
I absolutely do not.
This is all a fucking joke.
Please don't make me do a war cry.
dan friesen
I want to add another war cry.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So Owen has some sort of flowery language here at the beginning of this clip.
Okay.
And then Alex is like, we can't end the show.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
And then they talk to someone with a dumb name.
owen shroyer
World peace, freedom, prosperity.
It's possible.
It's possible in this planet.
That's our dream.
That's our total dream is world peace, freedom, and prosperity.
It is possible.
It is possible.
alex jones
All right.
So they've almost shut us down last night today.
When I tell viewers, this will be our last show.
I feel really bad turning this off.
Okay?
And we'll take this to Ray Lupitt, and they're going to whatever they're going to do, they're going to do this.
It's part of their fucking thing.
But we should take a few more spaces commenters because I just can't turn it loose right now.
I can't die yet.
So go ahead, more people.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
All right.
chase geiser
Let's go to Sovereign Bra.
Sovereign Bra.
Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you got to say.
dan friesen
Let's go to Sovereign Bra.
jordan holmes
Sovereign Bra.
Oh, my God.
What is he going to have done to all of us?
dan friesen
That is the show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's this show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It really is.
dan friesen
The end of 30 years.
Alex can't take responsibility for ending the fucking show.
And so they talk to Sovereign Bra.
jordan holmes
Sovereign Bra.
dan friesen
I don't know how to explain it, but that is a perfect metaphor.
jordan holmes
It is.
It is a microcosm of a microcosm of a perfect representation of the whole.
It's amazing.
It's like synecdoche, bra.
dan friesen
So then they talk.
jordan holmes
That would be a good joke for somebody.
dan friesen
Sure.
They talk to Maria Z, who's another reporter for InfoWars.
She's on the spaces.
She just says that you inspired me, Alex, and we are all the InfoWar.
Very, very nice thing.
And I think they decide, like, all right, we're going to.
jordan holmes
That's a good one to end.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is our last one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good one to end on.
dan friesen
She's an InfoWars employee.
She told me something uplifting.
It's something about the future.
jordan holmes
It's a good closer.
dan friesen
And so here is the last clip.
jordan holmes
Let's have a return of the king this ending finally.
unidentified
This is beautiful.
dan friesen
It's a little dramatic.
matt bracken
Okay.
alex jones
And we're in an epic moment right now.
And I appreciate Owen.
And I appreciate Harrison.
I appreciate Tit Scheiser.
I appreciate you.
But yeah, this is it.
So I think we're going to end with you.
I really appreciate you, Maria Z, and we'll do as best as we can.
But this is quite a moment in history right now.
And this is the enemy coming in.
And we're just going to try the best job we can.
owen shroyer
Well, there's one thing I know about you, Alex.
And it was a few years back.
You were going through something and you were into the Frank Sinatra song.
I did it my way.
You played it on the air.
You did it your way.
Maybe we could even go with the more recent Fred Durst, It's My Way or The Highway.
It's been your way.
You've done it your way.
You did it your way.
And so that's what this is.
You did it your way.
This is you going out in your way.
And, you know, we were just playing that compilation there that the crew had up on the screen of some of your epic moments.
And so I would say, you know, maybe In these final hours, these final moments of InfoWars, but let's have people put up their favorite compilations, their favorite Alex compilations, their favorite InfoWars videos.
Just flood the internet with everything that has been done here over the years.
Every victory we've had, all the fun we've had, all the seriousness.
alex jones
It's all God, Alex.
It's all God.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Go to bed.
alex jones
It's all God.
So, but it's all standard to continue on the fight.
And I just hope people will take this.
We should end with Frank Sinatra.
I did it my way, but I did it God's way.
I've literally fought these people from day one, knowing I was right.
And it wasn't me, it was all you.
But this is probably our last broadcast.
And we have these demons after us.
They're so pathetic, but it's okay.
So just play the whole Frank Sinatra my way.
We hope we're back tomorrow.
We don't know when we'll be back, but we're under total attack.
It's okay.
I love you so much.
And I appreciate all the crew and all of you.
So let's just finish up right now.
unidentified
And I could go for some dursts right now.
And more.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Much more than this.
Durst.
I did it my way.
dan friesen
They play the whole song.
jordan holmes
Of course they do.
dan friesen
Nice little clips of Alex in younger days and triumphant moments.
Also, they sort of turn off the lights on the set.
That's great.
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
Alex waves.
harrison smith
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a good one.
It's a very dramatic moment.
It's very much like cheers.
Doesn't Rob Dew have a degree in theater?
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
I think he does.
I think that's what Alex has said.
If so, it came through.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he must have been directing this shit.
jordan holmes
It's well staged.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It feels like the best they could do.
In terms of the last moments of the show, I love you all.
I shouldn't have done this last four hours.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But we did it my way.
jordan holmes
We did.
dan friesen
You did.
You did it your way.
It was absurd.
It was stupid.
There's probably going to be legal ramifications for what you said about the CRO.
jordan holmes
I hope there are.
dan friesen
It's your way.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, here's the problem.
Here's the problem with that, right?
Is that it wasn't.
It was not.
It is easy for us to romanticize that idea of like, this is a man, you know, that in some ways lived according to his own code kind of thing.
dan friesen
We want to believe that.
jordan holmes
This is not a man who lived according to his own code.
This is a man who is beset by any number of compulsions, addictions, metaphorical demons.
Poor family and friends, enablers, all of this created a monster.
Not somebody who did it their way.
And affluence.
dan friesen
Yeah, that also added to it.
I think that was a major factor in a lot of that enabling.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For any idea of, oh, this man was an iconoclast kind of thing.
Nip that shit in the bud right fucking now.
dan friesen
Well, maybe a little bit.
Maybe he's a little bit of an iconoclast, but not enough to deserve a Frank Sinatra exit.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
I'll give you that one.
dan friesen
I think there's degrees.
jordan holmes
I'll give you that one.
dan friesen
Also, he did his show on Sunday.
jordan holmes
God, I hate this world so much.
unidentified
I hate it so fucking much.
He was on air all day on Saturday doing this bullshit every Sunday about this.
dan friesen
We're recording on Sunday, so I didn't watch the show, but I did check in to see if he was there.
And he was.
He was doing his show on Sunday.
So they did not get padlocked.
jordan holmes
Here's.
Okay, I feel like all of you, all of you, but me, have a lot to take responsibility for.
dan friesen
I certainly do.
jordan holmes
For this whole fucking world functioning the way it does.
dan friesen
I definitely bear a lot of the burden for bringing this to you.
jordan holmes
I mean, every time I show this, every time I say things, oh, this could be better, everybody goes, oh, Jordan, you're so stupid.
Let's see if we can't file a motion to keep this in federal court as opposed to state court.
Because I'm the idiot who believes stupid shit.
dan friesen
Fair.
I mean, look, at the end of all of this, what a ride.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Unreal.
dan friesen
Can you believe that we started out with Trump's conviction?
jordan holmes
No.
Every part of this, I cannot believe.
dan friesen
But you can understand now why I kind of feel like Trump's conviction is not really that important.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter, even in the slightest.
dan friesen
It doesn't feel relevant.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Fucking old probation.
Who cares?
Put him in jail or go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
Alex did our last show pageant.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's some shit right there.
dan friesen
Star-studded affair.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Complete mess.
And maybe threw up on air.
jordan holmes
Is it?
Okay.
It's hard to believe how quickly we have all just been like, whatever, that a former general is like, hey, we need to start shooting people on InfoWars.
dan friesen
Well, he didn't say that.
jordan holmes
But he's a general.
jacob chansley
Close.
jordan holmes
He was a man who commanded people to shoot people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Thereby, I would say that everything he says has a somewhat.
dan friesen
There was a little, there's a reading of it that goes that direction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a general of the United States military.
dan friesen
Sure.
Two of Trump's former campaign managers were on: Bannon and Roger Stone.
Man.
I'm not sure.
Was Roger actually the official campaign?
I think he was.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
But yeah, you have Bannon Flynn and Roger all on here.
It's fucking a mess.
jordan holmes
I mean, I feel like this all can be boiled.
This all comes down to this, right?
I think once my way was overtaken by Fred Durst's version.
dan friesen
Right.
Or when they're equivalent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's whenever society just can't function.
It can't function like that.
dan friesen
Also, where was Paul?
jordan holmes
Where was Paul?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is he just better?
Is Paul just did he just be like, I don't know.
Did he just go to rehab and now he's fine?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
He's just because he works at a pub.
He's a great guy.
dan friesen
I just question whether he still hates SJWs.
jordan holmes
I mean, what if he did?
What if he just got a job as a bartender at a pub and just has a great life?
dan friesen
Where's Carpe Donkdom?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
He is seasoned something.
dan friesen
Yeah, where's the other guy?
Count Dankula.
Dankila?
jordan holmes
Yeah, where are the other truly great historical figures in Cernovich?
Where's the fucking Joker?
unidentified
Where's Yay?
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
I do honestly think that disrespectful not to have Pachenic on.
Disrespectful not to have disrespectful on Rogan's part and Tucker's part to not come in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because if you're doing the last, we're doing a telethon where they're going to board up the doors and everything.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You need all the star power you can get.
jordan holmes
True.
But I think if there are three people who know more intimately than anyone else on this planet besides us that Alex was going to be on Air Sunday, I would be shocked.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll be back with maybe Alex is closed.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe on Sunday he has big news about how he had to get bolt cutters and break through a lock.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
That'd be great.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Maybe we're really pirate radioing this at this point.
dan friesen
We're going to find out, but this was exhausting and kind of felt like old times a little bit.
jordan holmes
You said at the beginning, you know, this felt like you were up late till 4:30, feeling like the beginning, feeling like old times.
dan friesen
Also, that stream had a lot of the mirrors of the 2017 stream.
You know, there's so much of that that it kind of maybe triggered something.
jordan holmes
And it felt like when you were like, here's how sad, here's how sad it was.
When you were talking about Owen and you were like, oh, he's smoking cigarettes and drinking.
I was like, man, we used to smoke cigarettes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Owen wasn't.
jordan holmes
Owen had no idea.
I know.
Alex was.
I was thinking, like, it almost makes me feel like that was okay.
It was not.
dan friesen
But, yeah.
We didn't hide that we did.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Alex is hiding that he was smoking.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I actually know this from old emails that were turned over in the lawsuit.
Yeah.
They used to have all the old show logs.
Every episode would have logs.
And a few of them got caught up in these emails.
And so if you look at them, one of the things that is sometimes called out is like, you need to cut away from this when you post this because Alex is smoking.
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
dan friesen
So it goes back years and years and years of this, like, just don't show it.
jordan holmes
It's just not mad at the crew.
dan friesen
Which, on some level, it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Impressive editing.
And then, second, I guess if it's, you know, the alternative is give the message to the homeschool children and watch this for school.
I guess maybe I hide it.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
Oh, they didn't showcase Obama smoking in the president of the United States address or whatever.
The speaker of the, oh my God.
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
Look.
jordan holmes
State of the U.S.
dan friesen
It's been long.
jordan holmes
It has been a long episode.
dan friesen
Let's wrap this.
Let's go to some space.
jordan holmes
I want to do 20 minutes more.
Honestly.
Can we get a bottle of wine and just really figure this out tonight?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So we'll be back.
But until then, we have websites.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do at SnowdensHight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also not on social media.
jordan holmes
We are not on social media.
dan friesen
We will be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the mysterious professor.
unidentified
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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