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May 6, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#924: May 3, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to find Alex declaring that "the big one" is here, and taking to Twitter Spaces to discuss whether or not a civil war has already started.

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alex jones
20:41
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dan friesen
37:12
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jordan holmes
22:52
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chase geiser
01:00
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pablo escobar-jr
01:44
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jackson hinkle
00:32
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding me.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
alex jones
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is these live shows are coming up.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
They're sneaking up.
They're coming very fast.
They're fast approaching.
And that is great.
That is a lot of fun.
I've been thinking about that, and thinking about, you know, it'd be nice to get out of town, and all of that.
jordan holmes
It's exciting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, you know, I wanted to say, having a live event is never perfect.
It can never really be perfect, especially in the world that we live in today.
And I assume that our audience would be cognizant of all of these things, but I want to give voice to it a little bit, that if you're not feeling well, you can stay home.
We'll make it up to you somehow.
I hope everyone takes vaccination seriously if they can be vaccinated.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
If you'd like to wear a mask, I don't know if we can actually enforce anything, but we'll not be ostracized for wearing a mask or any of that.
Be considerate.
Be considerate to those around you, and have a good time.
jordan holmes
Keep in mind, you may believe we are popular, but we have very limited influence over anything.
It's true.
We are not going in with a writer.
dan friesen
No, the closest we could get to D.C. was Baltimore.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
I am doing my best, okay?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I assume that a lot of the people who listen to the show are obviously on the same page already and all that, but just in case.
jordan holmes
Be understanding, be respectful.
That's what we've always seen of everybody at The Wonk, so I don't even know why we say it anymore, honestly.
dan friesen
Because it can't hurt.
jordan holmes
Because it can't hurt.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It can't hurt.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
What about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is similar.
Perhaps it is a result of which we went on a snack-making tear yesterday.
dan friesen
As evidenced by the things you brought with you to the recording.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you've got a bag of Bestamix in there.
You've got a bag of our Golden Graham s'mores.
dan friesen
Two bags of the Golden Graham s'mores.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I would say, generally speaking, the anxiety of the show coming up made me feel like, Time to bake?
Time to take control of something.
I was going through all the stuff.
I booked the flights.
For sure it's right.
For sure it's right.
But you know what?
I have to control something.
So I'm going to make Chex Mix.
That's what's going to happen.
dan friesen
That impulse is incredibly understandable.
Trying to just feel that sort of sense of stability.
jordan holmes
An act of creation is an act of taking control of one's life.
And I appreciate it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I couldn't write anything, so I just made some fucking Chex Mix.
dan friesen
I mean, at the end of the day, you come out of it with Chex Mix and Graham Treats, so you have something to show for your time?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Reasserted control?
Totally.
These are all positives.
jordan holmes
It's great.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I'm very happy for you, and...
jordan holmes
I'm very happy for you.
dan friesen
Stop it!
But I appreciate it.
jordan holmes
You're welcome.
dan friesen
That's what I would say as it relates to bringing more of this shit to my house that I'm going to eat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, for sure.
dan friesen
Because it's good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But not healthy.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
So something that is not healthy and not good is today.
We're going over an episode of Alex's show.
jordan holmes
That's a great transition.
dan friesen
Going to be talking about May 3rd, 2024.
That's Friday.
jordan holmes
All right.
May the 3rd be with you.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Bad.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Bad times.
Not good?
dan friesen
Not good.
No.
He goes to spaces, and once again we don't get an appearance from fake Elon Musk.
I think he might have scared off fake Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, with his desperation.
dan friesen
Came off a little thirsty.
Fake Elon Musk was like, ah, I'm good.
unidentified
Even fake Elon Musk is a little bit, yeah, okay.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this episode, but first let's say hello to some new walks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, it took me two months to convince my wife it wasn't a recording of Jordan saying thank you very much.
You are now a policy walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I can confirm.
jordan holmes
That was a recording, though.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
That one.
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I just pretended to hit a button, and Jordan was confused.
jordan holmes
It went great.
It went great.
It was good stuff.
dan friesen
Next, Boston Wonks.
If anyone wants to meet up before the live show, let's go beforehand to Lamplighter Brewing on Broadway from 5.30 p.m. on.
Thank you so much.
You're on our policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
Thank you!
dan friesen
I wish I could retain all the facts that Dan recites, but instead, I've learned...
Instead, all I've learned is how to have more immersive, sarcastic arguments with friends and family.
Thank you so much.
You're now Balzywonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
If it makes you feel any better, I can't retain everything I've said either.
I've forgotten a million things.
jordan holmes
I don't even know what we're talking about now.
dan friesen
No.
Chex mix, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So we've got a couple of technocrats in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Regina, friendly neighborhood cult whisperer Calabrese.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And anyway, I'm Monctum.
I'm Donctum.
I'm Arthur C. Clarke.
I sang the one-armed scissor.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Do you think Cedric or Omar from At the Drive-In is a wonk?
Is that what we're learning here?
jordan holmes
That would be great.
dan friesen
I say that because I can't remember which one of them was the lead singer.
jordan holmes
It was Omar, right?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I don't remember.
Oh boy.
What are we doing?
Nothing.
jordan holmes
Someone's yelling at us for something.
dan friesen
This has been years.
jordan holmes
I can't remember.
I know, I know.
dan friesen
It's a shock I remember their names.
jordan holmes
I'm just guessing 50-50.
dan friesen
So today we start off the episode in a pretty severe place.
Shit's bad.
jordan holmes
Is it?
dan friesen
Shit is bad.
jordan holmes
Around us or just everywhere?
dan friesen
The world.
And particularly America.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
alex jones
You're going to hear a lot in the next few hours.
Things you've already heard on the show.
Things you've already seen on the streets.
Things you've already experienced.
And it's really going to be nothing new.
Except it's now live.
It's now happening.
The dominoes have already been kicked over.
And so there's now no doubt, and I want this to sink in, everybody, including myself, and this is what I'm telling my family, too.
Get your ass ready right now.
This is the big one.
When I say the big one, global destabilization at a level never-before-seen financial, cultural, ecclesiastical, I'm sorry?
Environmental, civil strife engineered an angrier world that Klaus Schwab talks about, expanding into civil unrest that will then be billed as racial left-right civil war that will lead to civil emergency martial law.
dan friesen
So yeah, the big one.
It's the big one.
jordan holmes
It's the big one.
dan friesen
Again, it's the big one.
jordan holmes
The big one.
Big what?
dan friesen
The big globalist move.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The big globalist plan.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Coming into fruition.
jordan holmes
But what does that mean?
dan friesen
It's the big one.
Get ready.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Economic.
Ecclesiastical.
jordan holmes
What if I am ready?
I'm already ready.
What does the big one mean now?
dan friesen
Then chill out.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
You're good.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Because, like, if I'm ready.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then I'm just waiting?
So I should be waiting, so it's not the big one.
dan friesen
I would dispute that it's possible to be ready for the big one as Alex describes it.
jordan holmes
I'm listening.
dan friesen
I think it's probably impossible to be ready for that.
jordan holmes
I mean, if it's ecclesiastical, it's like literally impossible to be ready for it.
dan friesen
Well, it's not only ecclesiastical.
It's also environmental, economic, the three E's.
jordan holmes
I was interested in his, what?
Not consonants.
dan friesen
Alliteration?
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, alliteration helps you.
dan friesen
Is it?
I don't think it's alliteration, technically.
I don't remember.
So look, here's the situation we have on our hands.
It's the big one.
This shit's going down.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And basically, if you parse out what he's saying, is the globalists trying to destabilize things, create a race war, and then they'll call in martial law, blah, blah, blah.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Boom.
And the dominoes are already pushed over.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This is already happening.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There's no way to stop it.
jordan holmes
Then why are we waiting for the big one?
dan friesen
Because maybe there's a way to stop it.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
All right, I'm listening.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, here, I'll let Alex take the wheel here.
alex jones
They've already triggered it.
The dominoes are about 10% falling.
Now 90% will continue to fall.
We can mitigate this, but this is a done deal.
Now, I can say I hope I'm wrong, but there's no way I'm wrong because...
This is all I do, and it's already happening.
Let's put back on screen the live show.
Headline I just wrote minutes ago.
Emergency.
Alex Jones has confirmed that the globalist deep state has already set in motion civil unrest leading to civil war and martial law.
We can stop this.
I wrote that, but I kind of changed my mind the last five minutes.
We can mitigate this.
Share and watch live now.
And maybe we can stop it, but it's already...
The golf club driver has already been swung by the Tiger Woods of chaos.
dan friesen
Wow.
This is like the piranha of liberty.
unidentified
The Tiger Woods of chaos.
dan friesen
I love the idea of him writing this headline that says, we can stop it, and then being like...
You know what?
That's too much hope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
I gotta scale it back.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
dan friesen
We can mitigate it.
jordan holmes
Can't even come close to stopping it.
dan friesen
Because I changed my mind.
jordan holmes
I changed my mind in the last five minutes about this thing that I've been studying all the time.
You can't say you changed your mind in the last five minutes.
You can't do that.
dan friesen
You can.
jordan holmes
You have to have some reason.
You have to have some sort of new information that would make you change your mind.
You can't.
Whimsically change your mind as you're being an expert.
dan friesen
I had a little feeling.
jordan holmes
Okay, well then never mind.
dan friesen
And then everything changed.
jordan holmes
Good point.
dan friesen
The prognosis for whether or not the world will fall into tyranny is blowing in the wind.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Tiger Woods of chaos has swung the club.
jordan holmes
Okay, so then we need the Phil Mickelson of order?
dan friesen
To tackle the Tiger Woods of Chaos before it makes contact with the ball.
jordan holmes
Or wait, who's his rival?
Is it Rory McIlroy?
What's the golf?
dan friesen
I don't know, golfers.
I used to watch golf a little bit because my buddy Nicky Gifts liked golf.
unidentified
Oh yeah?
dan friesen
And I don't retain many things.
jordan holmes
I got my whole family.
Loves golf.
Huge golf people.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
They're made of golf stuff.
dan friesen
It's impressive when you think about how hard it is.
jordan holmes
It's really hard.
dan friesen
But that's about it.
jordan holmes
Very boring and kind of a waste of time, money and resources, drain on the environment, ecclesiastical problem.
dan friesen
There are so many ecclesiastical problems.
So many problems, yeah.
But yeah, so I think that if...
So these metaphors are fucked because...
If 10% of the dominoes have fallen, you need to knock over another 10% if you want to save the other 80. Right.
Because you need to stop the kinetic energy that is going through your dominoes.
That's just the way that goes.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But...
If the Tiger Woods of Chaos has already started swinging the club, you could divert the club and cause no damage to the ball.
The chain reaction is not inevitable if you tackle the Tiger Woods of Chaos or whatever.
These things are not parallel, is what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, but if you are, here's where they are similar.
If you're going to get in the way of Tiger Woods swinging that golf club, you're going to get hit.
dan friesen
You may have to have some self-sacrifice in doing so.
jordan holmes
That's the 10% of dominoes that have to fall the other direction.
It's an equivalent force.
You're going to get hit with a driver from the Tiger Woods of Chaos.
dan friesen
They don't feel the same, but I get where you're coming from.
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I would watch a Saturday morning cartoon, like the Harlem Globetrotters cartoons back in the 70s.
I would watch a Tiger Woods of Chaos cartoon.
That would be great.
dan friesen
I think it might not be possible now.
Probably.
But, hey, who knows?
Anyway, there's a Tiger Woods of chaos.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's also a Babe Ruth and maybe a Donkey Kong.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
The golf club driver has already been swung by the Tiger Woods of chaos.
He's already hit the ball.
It's flying 250 yards right towards the green.
Okay?
So the ball's about already 50 yards in the air.
And it's coming.
Ball's already been hit.
Use a baseball analogy.
Babe Ruth has already hit it.
You see the balls going out of the park.
Straight ahead, he's got all bases loaded.
It's a grand slam.
So, it's going down like Donkey Kong.
And it depends on how it breaks and how we respond and what we do, but...
jordan holmes
Does it?
alex jones
If you look at everything they've prepared, it's 100% confirmed.
dan friesen
Okay, so now Tiger Woods has already hit the ball.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So now we're going to have to worry about his next shot, maybe?
unidentified
I suppose.
dan friesen
Hope he doesn't get a hole in one.
jordan holmes
Well, let's, okay.
dan friesen
He also said that the ball is coming at us as if, like, what the danger is is this ball that's been hit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, these days, with his one leg, he's hitting a lot of people on the fairway.
Well, off the fairway.
Also, 250 yards, I know a little bit about golf.
He shanked it, okay?
That is a short drive for Tiger Woods.
dan friesen
Well, see, now this gets us to the Babe Ruth thing.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
dan friesen
In Alex's metaphor there, Babe Ruth has already hit a home run.
jordan holmes
It's already gone!
dan friesen
Now, I guess you have to hope for errant wind to blow it foul.
jordan holmes
I mean, baseball's a game where just a grand slam doesn't really mean that much in the grand scheme of baseball games.
You know, that's one hit over a nine innings.
dan friesen
It means you've got four points to make up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but sure, you've got nine innings to go.
That's not even a death knell.
He didn't say it's bottom of the ninth.
What if it's the top of the fourth inning and he hits a grand slam?
There's so much time left.
dan friesen
So what you have to worry about is Tiger Woods' next stroke or the next at bat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you don't want him hitting a birdie.
You want him to get a bogey.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then the globalists won't have killed us all.
dan friesen
Right.
So now, here's another thing that makes me confused.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So, the domino metaphor.
Sure.
One domino hits the next domino, hits the next one, hits the next one.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Sort of, that's the same thing as Babe Ruth hitting a home run, and then it knocks in the runs.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There's almost the kinetic action of that.
jordan holmes
I'm seeing that, I'm seeing that.
dan friesen
But you can't stop the other people from running in.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
There's no way to do that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Home runs have been hit.
jordan holmes
It is kind of how the game works.
It's only, well, I mean, here's the fun thing about baseball, though.
Alright, now you and I might say that it's metaphorical, the need for people to continue to hit the home base after you hit a home run.
It's already done.
You know, like the rules of the game are that you, so why do you have to actually go through with it?
But you do.
And if somebody misses that bag, or misses any of the bags on the way, or it goes in front of another runner, they're out.
Even though it's a Grand Slam home run, those runs don't count.
Because baseball's weird like that.
dan friesen
So is the universe.
Look, here, the issue that I have is, like, none of this metaphorically really makes sense.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Everything seems to be about, like, all right, we've lost this round.
What do we do next round?
And Alex is sort of just being a little bit wishy-washy, just about, like, can we stop this?
Can we mitigate it?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't know.
It's the big one.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a lot of different ways it could go, though.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex knows it's the big one.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But there could be different scenarios.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And I'm going to lay this out and I'm going to go through what's currently happening and I'm going to break down what is going to happen next and the different variants of that.
But it's like four or five roads that go the same place and one gets you there 20 minutes earlier and one gets you there an hour later on Google Maps or something.
But they're all going to the same destination.
So I don't know exactly at the fork we're at right now which road the globalists are going to take, how we respond, we'll make them change and take other roads.
It's on.
Okay?
So guard yourself for true.
Drums, drums in the deep.
As Gandalf says, the war has begun.
The Clone Wars have begun, they have.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
Who's the Balrog?
Who's Darth Maul?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
Also, isn't guard yourself for true a dune quote?
jordan holmes
I believe it is.
dan friesen
Isn't that what Patrick Stewart says?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Probably.
dan friesen
I think that's what he says.
jordan holmes
In the original, in the early fight, damn, now you're a Dune.
Oh, we haven't let everybody know yet, but somebody knows they're Dune lore.
dan friesen
I know some things about Dune now.
I can recognize that as a quote.
jordan holmes
That is fun.
That is from the, whenever he's like, hey, let's.
unidentified
The shield fight.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Damn.
dan friesen
I'm going deep.
jordan holmes
Well done.
Damn.
dan friesen
See, this is the, I can retain.
Some information.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But if that is there, that means that other information...
dan friesen
Unfortunately, very important things about Infowars past and philosophies have been ejected.
jordan holmes
Guard yourself for true!
dan friesen
Yep.
But I think it's better that way.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
dan friesen
So, Alex does not really lay out what these five variations or all these things are.
They're just sort of general feelings about the doom and the big one.
jordan holmes
This one's real bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so when he comes back from break, he talks about some of the dynamics.
And I think they're all kind of bullshit.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
So, there's a lot of places to start.
But let's just go to the defunding of the police even before Trump was driven from office via election fraud three and a half years ago.
You then saw the Soros-controlled mayors and DAs and attorney generals all across the United States in almost every major city that they control.
They control almost every major city, even most sub-cities.
To defund the police on average by about 40%.
And then to intimidate the police, not to do their job.
dan friesen
That's amazing.
So there's a large conversation going on about defunding the police department.
It's happened a couple years back.
And Alex is trying to appeal to that memory in the audience that they have about being really upset about that.
Because that was pretty upsetting.
They were mad and scared.
jordan holmes
Why would they defund those people?
dan friesen
In essence, one side was saying that police budgets were overblown and that they were spending money on paramilitary shit that was unnecessary and that their budget would be better used on other forms of rapid response.
For instance, you could...
more robust mental health response team so heavily armed cops weren't the ones showing up to a 911 call about someone having a breakdown or an episode.
Sure.
unidentified
The other side responded to the idea of the slogan "Defund the Police" and created an image that was entirely about getting rid of the police, banishing all cops.
dan friesen
While there are definitely some people who have that in mind, that wasn't the version that anyone who was in office was working with or anything that was actually proposed as like, "We're actually going to work towards this." And it is true that there were many cities that cut police budgets in the 2020-2021 period.
But if you actually check back on this, you'll find that a whole lot of them reverted the next budget cycle.
For instance, Alex's hometown of Austin cut $31 million from the police budget in 2021-22, but then it added it back and then some for 2021-22, hitting an all-time high of over $443 million that budget cycle.
If you look into it, you'll find the same kind of thing is true for most of the large cities in the United States, the ones Alex is claiming are run by the left and who have defunded police departments.
All of their funding is higher than it was pre-2019, and all Alex is doing is relying on vague...
Fear memories in the audience from when that was the big talking point.
Also, not for nothing, but Alex should be totally in favor of police budgets being cut.
Half of his career has been about the police state and militarization of the police, so if there should ever be a defund the police guy, it should be him.
He shouldn't even be afraid of the idea of the police going away, since the Second Amendment is all you're supposed to need.
The police can't respond in time to help you.
You gotta defend yourself.
His feelings on this issue do not make sense.
But it's only if you believe that his positions are sincerely held ones, as opposed to just sort of opportunistic and circumstantial.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the only thing that makes any sense is to be like, okay, we actually do have to abolish the police.
Because if defunding it or reducing the funding was the idea, and then when people stopped looking, the budgets went even higher, that's probably going to say that it's either all or nothing.
While you have the momentum, you gotta do it.
And if you don't, then they're gonna kind of be like, ah, we'll get some more space back.
If the cops have a budget to get more budget, you know, like, if you spend $100 million on, like, a PR team and you're the cops, you're gonna get a higher budget later, you know?
dan friesen
I'm not sure if, you know, what you're saying is correct.
But it definitely appears that the direction things went didn't continue on in the direction that...
Alex is pretending they did, and maybe even a lot of people hoped that it would.
But, yeah, I'm not certain that abolishing the police outright in one fell swoop is...
I don't know if that's even possible.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's...
I mean, yeah, that's kind of the thing.
But if your goal is to do a thing, right, then the way that they went about it was the wrong way, if that was the end result.
dan friesen
Maybe it was the right way and something slipped.
Maybe it's the right way and you learn along the way that also what you need to do is retain pressure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
I mean, who knows?
jordan holmes
Any number of things.
dan friesen
But the point is, Alex's depiction of reality is absolutely inaccurate.
Agreed.
And all of these ideas about the defund the police, now they have no money and all this, is based on not revising anything since 2021 talking points.
And that's where Alex is operating from.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
Also, there was Minneapolis.
That was another city where there was some police stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As Alex brings that up.
alex jones
And you have laws passed in 10 states and several hundred cities like San Francisco, Portland, Chicago, New York, where even if you steal, depending on the city or state, $1,000, $2,000, up to $5,000 in some cities, out of a store.
A grocery store, a clothing store, a Walgreens, you name it, that you will not be prosecuted.
That's just one example of the destabilization.
The defunding of the police in places like Minneapolis, Minnesota, where then the mayor and others hired private security 24 hours a day, millions of dollars a year just for themselves while cutting the police by 50%.
dan friesen
So in 2018, the police budget for Minneapolis was $185 million.
In August 2023, the city approved a budget for the coming year of $195 million for the police department.
After the killing of George Floyd, the city council did cut $8 million from the police budget in December 2020, but that amount has bounced back, as it has pretty much everywhere.
The city council did employ private security guards during that time period when they were getting a ton of threats.
That is true.
At the time, city council member, one of them, told the business insider, quote, my concern is the large number of white nationalists in our city and other threatening communications I've been receiving.
So it seems like what the city council was doing was...
Working on ways to defund the police and work on alternative solutions, and they were getting a lot of threats because of that.
So it's kind of the inverse of...
Anyway, Alex is living in a bit of an alternate timeline here, one where these budget cuts were super severe and that they continued.
It's all an illusion, though.
This is not reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's really hard to watch, like...
Children get beat up by the cops all day, and then hear Alex be like, the cops' budget is too low!
Like, oh, I'm sure it is.
dan friesen
Soros is trying to take away all the police's money as a social destabilization tool.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
It's funny, like, if you just took the amount of overtime out of their budget that they got for the couple of days that they beat all the kids up.
That would be like $10 million.
That's more money than they cut from the budget.
dan friesen
I'm no expert.
I can't verify Jordan's numbers.
jordan holmes
But it's close enough.
dan friesen
So look, here's the situation.
Alex wants to humanize the police.
jordan holmes
Good fucking luck!
alex jones
The point is, when the left fully takes over the country, they're going to run the police, and then you really won't like them.
No, the police are one of the last institutions they haven't taken over yet in every area.
But they're doing it.
And they need to purge the military with the poison shots and critical race theory and transgenderism.
That's exactly what they wanted, to put their people in key positions.
So, they've got control of most of the military.
They're getting control of the police.
They've defunded the police.
They've defunded it for the citizens.
Jurisdictions all over the country, from Illinois to Texas, you say, hey, from midnight to 6 a.m., no police will respond when you're getting broken into.
And then if you do one thing wrong or...
Don't say the right thing.
When you shoot a burglar breaking in your house, Soros DAs are going to throw your ass under the jail.
There's another one, yeah.
Three officers shot in Louisiana in fatal standoff with gunmen.
I mean, I can't even keep track of it.
I didn't even know about that one a couple days ago.
So, where are their names?
Where are their families?
Where are their crying wives and widows at press conferences?
There is no interest in that.
Because we don't want to humanize the police.
dan friesen
Well, their grieving widows aren't doing any press conferences because in that case that Alex is talking about, none of the police died.
That headline says fatal standoff because the suspect was killed.
The three cops were shot but just wounded and were in stable condition.
This whole thing doesn't really make sense because Alex has just skimmed a headline and decided that he knows the whole story.
jordan holmes
That works.
dan friesen
Yep.
Fun.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
dan friesen
Good times.
jordan holmes
Next story!
Okay.
I'm such a great newsman!
dan friesen
So here Alex lays down a bit of what he thinks that the path that some of this is going to go down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
The big one.
dan friesen
The big one.
jordan holmes
The big one path.
dan friesen
Yes, and it starts with xenophobia and continues to be that.
jordan holmes
Okay, so we've got four or five possible paths that could go down, all leading to the same place, some of which 20 minutes, some of which an hour.
One of which we're about to hear is going to be...
dan friesen
We don't have like a delineation of the five or anything.
The five is just sort of like, hey, there's other things that could happen.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Hedge into my bets.
dan friesen
The specifics that I'm reflecting on and ruminating on might be wrong.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
And I'm still right.
jordan holmes
Even though I write about 100% of everything all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here's the direction things might go.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And Soros has spent billions, and he gets money from the State Department.
He's just the front man, so the State Department doesn't have their hands currently in it.
The State Department...
Is funding billions and billions to bring illegals in and brainwash them against America, sign them up to vote.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
While at the same time funding billions of dollars to fund the Tides Foundation and the Sunrise Foundation and all these other groups and to bail these people out when they're violent.
And then when the frat boys and the right-wingers go out who are sick of them, every little thing they do that's wrong gets magnified to make it a left-right battle.
Because the globalists want Americans fighting with each other.
They want to turn the heat up ahead of the summer of rage that's coming.
That'll make 2020 look tame in comparison.
I'm guaranteeing, not predicting, guaranteeing.
Then they'll get enough incidences and enough Southern Poverty Law Center, ADL crisis actors, which we know they send in, like Charlottesville, to stir things up enough.
And then there will be false flags.
And false flags can be a crazy person you wind up, or it can be purely staged, or it can be done by a corporate group or a mercenary group, but it's going to be something that's going to be blamed on conservatives and nationalists.
dan friesen
Of course, of course.
False flags can be anything.
It can be anything that you want it to be.
jordan holmes
And now I'm going to throw this out to you.
It feels like their plan is the same plan.
dan friesen
As?
jordan holmes
The one we've been hearing about for the past 40 years?
dan friesen
And everything.
Dude, I mean, like, honestly, I was, like, looking for something.
He said identical things to all this stuff repeatedly over time.
It's always the big one.
It's always this.
It's thin.
It's very thin.
But he's trying to exploit people's very understandable feelings.
Of heightened tension.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That are coming along.
And, I mean, that's kind of what he does.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's very annoying.
jordan holmes
Here's my feeling on this.
I'm feeling like it's going to be a dud.
The more people feel like it's big, the more I feel like we're built.
And we're born to hype, man.
We're not born to follow through with shit.
That's not our style.
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
Well, we got all hyped up and then we were like, oh, man, Woodstock 99 was too much.
And then we go home.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
So I'm not sure where anything is going to go.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I'm not in the business of making predictions because I'm always wrong.
But what Alex is predicting is he's saying that Soros and the State Department and all these people are bringing in immigrants who hate America and they're being brainwashed and they're going to vote for the left and all this nonsense.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So they're coming in and that is he's folding into the Gaza demonstrations.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Stuff like that.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So then you'll have that, and that'll anger white people, and then white people and frat boys will be racist towards those protesters, and then there's going to be martial law, and then false flags.
jordan holmes
Okay, so wait.
So why isn't he like, hey, frat boys and white nationalists, let's just judo this one.
Why doesn't anybody ever be like, hey, like...
Let's just step out of the way and let them hit their own faces.
dan friesen
Well, honestly, he kind of does because he says that those people are, like, provocateurs and ADL false flag crisis actors.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So he can't have them, like, actually be sincere racists.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
I think Alex probably knows that, like, a lot of sincere racists wouldn't listen to him anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
I would be interested to see if we could, like, have a...
If there was a focused messaging possible where every conservative commentator could be like, hey guys, let's try and be super smart this time.
We'll do some judo.
We'll step out of the way.
And then whenever the liberals do whatever they do, we'll take over.
Right?
Like, they just can't do it.
They don't have it in the...
They were like, let's just attack the libs.
Let's just do it!
Let's get up!
dan friesen
Well, yeah, social media brain.
You're talking about that, about, like, you just need to fight?
jordan holmes
Yeah, they just need to fight.
dan friesen
A lot of people just need to fight.
I don't know.
So anyway, Alex predicts false flags before the election.
And then, uh-oh, there won't be an election.
alex jones
They're priming the pump and setting the battle space for the false flags that are going to be committed against...
Black grocery stores, black colleges, black churches.
jordan holmes
Please don't sound like you're planning.
alex jones
About a month before the election, I'd say about 155 days from now is what I'm guessing.
And us putting this out may make them change the battle plan.
About 155 days from now.
So it's 185 days to the election.
So about a month out from the election, about 155 days from now, we'll go into the zone, and black church is going to get hit.
Black grocery stores are going to get hit.
Black colleges are going to get hit.
Then, synagogues are going to get blown up.
Truck bomb.
Federal buildings will then get hit.
Truck bomb.
And then civil emergency is going to be declared.
Trump is going to be blamed.
And they have no intention of even letting us go to the balance.
Now, that's one planned scenario I see.
They've got a bunch of others.
They've got a handful of cards.
dan friesen
They've got a handful of cards, Jordan.
This is one of the scenarios.
jordan holmes
See, so this is what I'm saying as far as judo, right?
So then if this is what you know is going to happen, right?
You know that they're going to false flag.
They're going to blame it on you.
We have a time period when they're going to do it.
So then you put out the call.
You say to everybody, our new mission as conservatives is to prove that these people are doing this so we will protect black grocery stores.
That's our whole deal now.
We just protect black grocery stores.
dan friesen
No, because I think Alex's version of that is this, what he's doing.
Making this prediction is his way of saying, don't do this.
jordan holmes
You're right.
Yeah, you're right.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He just can't say it, because then people would feel like he's a loser?
dan friesen
Maybe.
But honestly, all he's actually doing is assessing in some way, whether this is conscious or subconscious, I have no idea, assessing that the likelihood of domestic insurgent violence is higher.
And especially around the election, as Trump's trials go on, these things are more likely to happen.
More of his...
More unhinged followers are more likely to resort to violent tactics.
And a lot of them happen to be racist.
And so Alex kind of understands that the odds are pretty high of this.
And so if something does happen, now he has a video of himself predicting this.
And if it doesn't happen, it doesn't matter because he said that I said this and maybe that'll change the battle plans.
And they won't do it.
So I'll be wrong, but I'll actually be right.
That's basically all he's doing.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It's either I predicted it or I stopped it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In both cases, I am the hero.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What a guy.
So a lot of this episode is what I would describe as rambling martial law type fantasies.
jordan holmes
Okay.
For or against?
alex jones
It won't be called martial law, but it'll be called a civil emergency.
Then they'll claim the Russians hit the power grid, and part of the power grid will go down.
And then they'll claim the Russians have hit the banks.
And then they'll tank the economy, claiming it's the Russians that did it, and part of the power grid, and you're in full martial law.
And then for issues of national security, to get the banks back on, to get the power back on in some areas, to stop the burning cities, with the left out just torching everything, Biden will have to declare a national emergency, and they'll have to crack down on disinformation on all sides.
And they'll...
Turn off the funding to Hamas and turn off the funding to their minions and turn off the funding to Black Lives Matter and, oh, they'll turn off all the little nationalist patriot front that are clearly feds that are wound up running around and then all those guys that are being used, they'll be shut down again but later brought back when they're needed.
But in the wake of that, the people exposing all of this, the folks trying to stop it, The Tucker Carlson's, the Alex Jones's, they will be taken off the air.
And I don't say this is pretty dramatic.
When they go to full martial law, there's a very good chance they're going to go ahead and kill Trump.
And I would predict the same day they kill Trump, they'll probably kill Senator Paul or try.
They'll kill Matt Gaetz.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
They'll try to kill me, and they'll go ahead because they know Joe's awakening, or they're going to go ahead and kill Joe Rogan.
unidentified
True.
alex jones
They'll kill Joe.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
Who else you got?
alex jones
And, you know, they've already got plans how to do it, how to line it up.
One guy that claimed was a murder-suicide.
Oh, he killed himself, or shot his wife and killed himself.
Oh, you know, this guy, you know, died of a heroin overdose.
Oh, this guy was in a shootout.
This guy got carjacked.
But they may not even care.
And just gut our houses and just, you know, launch hand grenades into the thing.
I mean, they're not going to care at that point.
All right?
dan friesen
All right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
That's the luxury of martial law, right?
That's why you do it.
Because if you don't declare martial law, you have to come up with clever ways to kill people so nobody thinks it's you doing it.
If you declare martial law, you get to just send jackbooted thugs to someplace and shoot a guy in the head and go, hooray!
That's it!
That's the idea!
alex jones
Well...
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I guess so.
In the sense that, like, if martial law is declared, your death is kind of assumed.
jordan holmes
That's the idea!
Like, it's not a prediction to say that, you know?
unidentified
I mean, I guess.
dan friesen
Here's the thing.
jordan holmes
I'm not coming down, like, pro.
I'm just saying that that's, like, the idea behind it, you know?
dan friesen
I mean, it's such a hypothetical that it's almost difficult to process.
jordan holmes
It's ridiculous.
dan friesen
But I still think, even in this hypothetical, Joe's fired.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
I think he's fired.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Why would you...
Okay, so you gotta...
dan friesen
And how deep does the list get?
jordan holmes
I mean, but that's the thing.
So you declare martial law because if you don't kill Trump or whomever in this hypothetical, then they lead the revolution against you.
That's the idea.
dan friesen
It's Trump, Alex, Tucker, Joe Rogan.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I really don't think Joe's...
A revolution leader.
I'm just going to throw that out there.
I think maybe when you're doing that many drugs, you're like, let's just not do a revolution.
Let's be real mad at him, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think...
unidentified
I just...
dan friesen
This is not a healthy headspace that Alex is in.
jordan holmes
No, these are bunker thoughts.
dan friesen
These are bunker thoughts.
jordan holmes
These are definitely bunker thoughts.
dan friesen
And I also think that, like, this whole, like, when they declare martial law, they'll take us off the air.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Didn't you say there's a 50-50 chance you'll be gone in two months?
jordan holmes
Two months anyway.
dan friesen
Yesterday.
jordan holmes
We don't have to declare martial law for shit!
dan friesen
I don't think...
I feel like you're already...
You know, you're in a bunker.
Yeah.
Emotionally.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's the big one.
It's the big one.
And so Alex is going to celebrate that by doing a Twitter space.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
So I don't like having to get up here and tell you all this.
And I think you already know it, don't you?
In your gut, your spirit, intellectually.
But this is it.
Now, when we come back, I'm going to continue on, and then I'm going to launch in like five minutes a Spaces on the fact that has civil war already begun?
And how do we stop?
This total takeover.
But this is it.
And then once they've got us carbon lockdowns, vaccine passports, a new virus will be released.
But they want to first get rid of all their political opposition and have a big burnout.
And it's happening.
dan friesen
It's happening.
So this is a real interesting strategy that Alex employs sometimes, which is he'll do it with calls sometimes or this Twitter space.
The entirety of the show is about how Civil War is fucking here.
It is here.
It's the big one.
It's happening 100%.
We can't stop it.
Maybe we can mitigate it.
I don't know.
Who knows?
It's going down.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Now, we're going to take calls on whether it's happening.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
I just don't understand.
dan friesen
It is a little weird.
unidentified
But it's talk radio.
dan friesen
It's talk radio.
I'm going to make an extreme position and now you can call in and argue with me or agree with me and we'll talk some bullshit.
It's just...
It's baiting.
jordan holmes
I mean, I get it.
You're like, oh, I think fucking Dan Marina's better than Tom Brady.
Let's fight about it.
I get that.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But if you're like, we're in a shooting war, then there's no argument.
Then I get a gun and we're in a shooting war, right?
Like, that's the rule.
dan friesen
Or the danger is you are going to convince anyone in your audience that it is shooting war time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's just the stakes and the topic of conversation is kind of...
I think it should be above this level of behavior.
jordan holmes
Is Dan Marino still alive?
dan friesen
And when you do this and have done it periodically in your career, it takes away a little bit of the oomph when you keep trying to do it.
And I find it a little hollow and empty.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So look, they're going to take him off the air.
jordan holmes
It would be interesting if the South had declared...
Seceded 50 times.
Like, every year they were like, no, we're seceding.
We're doing it, man.
You know, like, everybody would be like, fine, fucking do it.
I dare you, you know?
Alex has tried to start a civil war 50 times.
dan friesen
He's done as much as he could.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, they're going to take him off the air.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And there's like six, seven, eight roads going the same place.
They could take different routes, different crises, different false flags.
But it's all going that way, and the momentum has already been released in that way, and the New World Order isn't backing down, and they've gone ahead with this.
And then the owners of it are all building bunkers and getting out of the U.S. and hiding.
So the big guys are scattering, so they're not in the arena.
We're the little guys.
We live here.
We have nowhere to go.
We are stuck here in the arena, so you're going to have to fight.
And by fight, I mean you've got to get close to God.
You've got to pray.
You've got to get super vocal.
You've got to get super active.
You've got to expose this paradigm like your life depends on it because it does.
Because once they trigger the civil unrest that we're already in, that they then bill as civil war, then the false flags happen, then the open civil emergencies declared, then even bigger false flags happen, we're going to be off the air.
Almost everybody's going to be cut off, at least for a while.
They're going to let the Russians hit the cyber grid.
The Chinese hit the communications grid.
They're already saying it's imminent.
FBI director, imminent.
They're going to cut off.
Oh, the Internet's 90% down.
Only a few government sites are up, so you only get their messages.
That's the Obama kill switch.
Obama doesn't kill his communications, and he's their main front guy.
jordan holmes
Still?
alex jones
He's like their...
Mascot of their standard.
You know, the Globos behind him, the Brennans, the Clappers, they're running things.
Obama's in on the meetings.
He's smart.
He's like their Roman standard.
And he's got his alternate White House.
Skip the break, guys.
A mile from the real White House.
And this is happening.
So they want me off the air because they know I'm for real.
They know I can't be bought.
They know I can't be intimidated.
I don't even know how to be intimidated.
I don't even know how to back down.
It's not genetically in me.
Alright?
Because I understand it's fight or flight.
If I could run to some other free country and avoid all this and they weren't going to start a nuclear war, I would have left.
There's nowhere to go.
We're cornered.
We didn't look for the fight.
But if they want to fight, they better believe they got one.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
He did the catchphrase!
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's sweet.
chase geiser
Call it out.
dan friesen
So, I mean, this is just like...
So, here's the thing that I can't...
Like, stop thinking is maybe in the background of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If Alex is actually worried that he's going off air in the next, like, month.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This could be preemptive narrative building.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, they're gonna take me off the air.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it'd just actually be because he has to pay out a giant settlement or whatever and has to go out of business.
It could be part of the coming back.
Sure.
You know, this is a way to rewrite a monumental collapse of your empire as the globalists, you know, they wanted to take me off air because they knew it was part of the big push or whatever.
I don't know, that's just kind of the way I feel.
Whenever you're like, a massive piece of this martial law that's about to be launched is me going off the air and yesterday you said, 50-50 shot, I'm off the air in two months because of my financial and legal troubles?
jordan holmes
There's definitely that.
dan friesen
I kind of feel like maybe...
All of this is combined.
jordan holmes
Now, I'll tell you this.
Historically speaking, men like Alex, when they feel the end coming for them personally, they often project that out into the world and say that it's coming for everybody.
dan friesen
And I think that that's the only thing we can really say with any firm certainty, is that Alex seems like he's in a mood, he's in a bad mood today.
jordan holmes
He's having bunker thoughts.
dan friesen
Yes.
And that is being rippled out through the microphones.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so, look, everybody needs to fight, and people need to fight, and they need to stop fucking playing golf, like the Tiger Woods of chaos.
jordan holmes
Here's my question.
Okay, so all these people are getting in their bunkers for the end of the world, right?
I just don't understand their plan.
None of them make anything, you know?
Like, the Zuckerbergs, they pay people to make stuff for them.
Like, nobody's gonna make their TV.
You know, nobody's gonna make, like, fucking post-apocalyptic madmen where they're like, oh, we advertise to these four guys.
That's not gonna happen.
There's no show there, you know?
Like, what are they doing?
This is bad thinking.
This is stinking thinking.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
And it's terrible ideas.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying to the globalists, change your minds.
dan friesen
Globalists in Alex's imagination, change your minds.
jordan holmes
Change your minds.
dan friesen
You got five minutes.
Change your mind, Alex.
jordan holmes
Change your mind.
dan friesen
That's really what we're trying to say.
Anyway, you can't play golf.
Too casual.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Not fighting.
chase geiser
Fair enough.
alex jones
Go to your church.
You've been there 20 years.
Demand to go speak.
jordan holmes
Totally fine.
alex jones
If your pastor doesn't let you, then tell me in the parking lot after this.
Everybody come out here.
We need to talk about this.
You've got to create a massive buzz and get a sense of urgency and get people out of their comfort zones right now.
And damn it!
You know, I know golf's great, and I know having all this fun's great.
It's time to stop all that and make this front and center.
This isn't just something you tune into because it's interesting, and boy, this sounds wild, and it's like some science fiction thing.
This is real, people.
I'm a real person.
I got real blood pumping through my veins.
I know what I'm talking about.
This is going down.
This is going down.
dan friesen
I just went to Hawaii for two weeks.
unidentified
You fuckers can't play golf.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
Just cool it.
jordan holmes
You know, it's always nice.
Whenever somebody does the Pride and Prejudice opening line thing where you say the exact opposite of what you mean.
You know, like, this isn't something that's just there for entertainment.
Aha, you know exactly what this is, don't you, sir?
Don't you?
This is something you just tune into.
dan friesen
I look forward to his next very important vacation.
Yeah, right?
But the shit to die are, as we know.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
As we can tell.
jordan holmes
It's like a wolf.
dan friesen
And there's a lot of firsts that are happening.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I'm telling you.
If you see them kill Trump, if I hear a bomb goes off at Mar-a-Lago, and I've never been on defense, I've always 100% offense, I'm now 10% on defense, and the minute I hear that, I am going to literally go to the studio and stay here until they turn the lights out.
If we're even here before that happens, our job's going to stop before that happens.
So at that point, you know, I may just, boom, if I'm cut off and everything else, I'm going to go to the countryside.
Because I'm not going to be sucked into all of this and into this garbage.
I'm doing everything I can informationally right now.
But if I'm cut off informationally, then all I can do is try to wait it out.
So you've got to really understand it's that serious that in 30 years I've never got a bug out plan, never got the bags packed, never got the stuff loaded.
It's loaded and ready to go, okay?
For the first time in my life.
Because the ship's going down.
dan friesen
This isn't even the first time he's claimed that it's the first time in his career that he's been packed and has a bug out ready.
unidentified
It's crazy.
dan friesen
This is just something that he trots out because, like, if he pretends it's the first time he's ever said these things, it gives the fake illusion of weight.
jordan holmes
Wasn't he going to eat people a short time ago?
dan friesen
He was emotionally prepared to eat his neighbors.
jordan holmes
He's got a bug out bag?
dan friesen
But that was satire.
I don't know.
Look, I'm going to take issue with you on one thing.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You mocked that he's the tip of the spear because he said he's going to run away.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't think that's necessarily mock-worthy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think based on a lot of Alex's other behaviors, maybe it's mock-worthy.
But in theory, what he does is disseminate information.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's not useful as, like, a soldier in arms or whatever.
So he knows his use is as an information disseminator, and if he no longer has a use, he could have a use in the future if he hides it out.
So I think, I don't know, I think there's something to be said for that.
jordan holmes
You and I are thoroughly disseminators of information and not good in a fight.
We advertise as such.
Alex, on the other hand, advertises as being an amazing person to have in a fight who will always kill all of your enemies in two seconds.
So I would argue that indeed him running away is mock-worthy.
dan friesen
Only based on his words.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So the globalists have these plans.
jordan holmes
By the way, did he mention that his plan is identical to the globalist plan of running away and hiding in a bunker?
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Probably not important.
jordan holmes
I mean, if they're the same plan, it feels like maybe he's in on the plan with them.
dan friesen
I think that's an interesting line of thought, and I would be interested to hear what fake Elon Musk has to say about it.
Unfortunately, we will not share from that.
Another luminary does show up, though, which is very interesting.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The Twitter space is...
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
There's some recasting going on in the Twitter space.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That's definitely...
jordan holmes
All right, we got season three coming up.
dan friesen
It is a drop in cast.
jordan holmes
I believe it.
dan friesen
So, the globalists have their plans.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And their plans only work if no one knows they did the thing.
Right?
False flags only work if you believe the flag.
Right?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about that and then he starts screaming about social media comments.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You're a bunch of bureaucrats sitting around with Brennan acting all tough and Clapper and Obama.
We'll do this, we'll do that.
You ain't gonna do nothing to get everybody killed, you dumb bastards!
Stop it!
Stop it now!
God!
What is your problem?
You know we're gonna get a nuclear war with the Russians, you dumbasses!
You know the Chinese and the Indians are going to war.
You know what's going to start in Pakistan.
You know what's going on.
You know the war games.
You know what's happening.
You've already cut off half the damn food, you psychos.
Now the third world's going to blow up, which is all part of your plan.
But people know you're behind it.
People know you're the authors of it.
Your plan would only work if you didn't get the blame.
Your plan would only work if people didn't know you were behind it.
Everyone hates you.
There'll be 10,000 comments on a video with 5 million views, and I have to read for an hour to find one servile clip supporting you.
People hate you.
Joe Rogan posted a video of Bill Gates.
It gets 40 million views and 200,000 comments, and I read for days on and off and couldn't find one comment for you on Instagram.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
When you're 10,000 to 1 unpopular, you dumbasses, stop it.
You're in your little cocoons thinking you're safe.
The pilots flying your planes hate you.
Your security hates you.
Your family hates you.
Everybody doesn't like you.
You've lost.
Now give up!
And if you think you got some consolation prize to attack me or attack others that have stood up against you, I'm already...
I love the threats and all the rest of it.
I knew 30 years ago when I did this, I was better off dead.
So don't you give me any of your crap.
I chose this path.
I am victorious if you killed me today.
I chose this.
I'm where I want to be.
I'm the winner.
You're the loser, period.
I declare victory on you.
All right, Chase Geiser, I want you to comment.
We'll go to break in a few minutes.
We'll come right back in the spaces and take a bunch of comments, but I got to say this once.
We won't be here.
We can mitigate all this.
And if I decide we've already lost the center of the world, but they've really lost, but we've lost civilization, then we won't be here.
We've got to keep operating like we're going to stop this or at least mitigate it, which I think we can do.
We need support at Infowarsstore.com.
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dan friesen
Yeah, Nitric Boost is great.
It gives you those painful erections, as we recall from our last episode.
jordan holmes
Extremely painful erections.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that was a ride.
jordan holmes
I feel like I said very similar ranting-type things whenever the Pizza Hut buffet ended in my small town growing up, but really haven't felt that strong about anything since.
dan friesen
There's two real things that I feel are important here, and one is your fucking life is social media now.
So bad.
The social media comments are so important in terms of dictating reality.
A tragedy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the second thing is just this moment of like, no, no, no!
I declare victory!
I'm exactly where I want it to be!
Time travel is not possible.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
As far as I know.
But if it were, I would love to just get a real, as Alex likes to say, gestalt of him in the present, show it to himself in the past, and be like, is this where you want to be?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or...
I'd like to go back to the past and ask Alex of the past where he would like to be and note how different it is from where he is at this point.
jordan holmes
You know, I think what's funny about it is I agree on all fronts, and I also think he's directly addressing people who are extremely rich, right?
dan friesen
I mean, he does think he's talking directly to the globalists a lot of the time.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Like, he is extremely rich.
He is...
Despised by these people that he is describing that hate the globalists.
Again, I think this is a man who somewhere along the line figured out that he's the real enemy in his own life and just can't handle it and is turned into an Ouroboros of self-hatred that has now been projected upon the rest of us like a fucking nightmare cloud.
dan friesen
I think you found your next book.
It's an interesting character sketch.
jordan holmes
The Nightmare Cloud of Ouroboros of Self-Hatred.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So that Ouroboros of Self-Hatred has a staff, and he sells enough nitric boost to keep these people employed, and one of them is Chase Geyser.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
King of the spaces.
jordan holmes
Chase Geyser.
dan friesen
He is the...
jordan holmes
Space Geyser.
dan friesen
Space Geyser.
All right.
This dude.
This fucking dude.
jordan holmes
What's he doing?
chase geiser
I am amazed, as a layman who's interested in history, I'm amazed that we haven't arrived at a place.
Where people have risen up?
I guess Elon Musk would be an example of somebody that I think is very heroic.
Trump is an example.
Alex, I think you're an example too.
But where is the Julius Caesar that just comes in and fixes this?
alex jones
And for people that don't know, that's a sophisticated take.
You know, he's called a tyrant that was already in Civil War.
And then he didn't like it and came in and stabilized Rome for another couple hundred years.
dan friesen
Yes.
So yeah, they wanted Julius Caesar.
That makes sense.
This is very in line with...
A lot of the sort of right-wing states' rights type ideas that their movement is based on.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The real...
I feel like particularly folks in the John Birch Society might have had a problem with that one.
jordan holmes
You know, I think these people tend to believe...
That giving despotic power to an individual stabilizes things for the group, wherein I feel like they are misunderstanding that it stabilizes things for the individual who controls as much as possible, and then destabilizes everything for the world, and then everything crumbles.
dan friesen
For the Caesar guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, remember how the Caesar guy didn't have a good run?
Like, that was the whole idea?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I just pulled this up from None Dare Call It Conspiracy, the book that turned on Alex to the New World Order.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we read here, Is it not theoretically possible that a billionaire could be sitting not in a garret but in a penthouse in Manhattan, London, or Paris and dream the same dream as Lenin or Hitler?
You'll have to admit it's theoretically possible.
Julius Caesar, a wealthy aristocrat, did.
And such a man might form an alliance or association with other like-minded men, might he not?
Caesar did.
These men would be superbly educated, command immense social prestige, and be able to pool astonishing amounts of money to carry out their purposes.
These are the advantages that Hitler and Lenin did not have.
So yeah, I mean, he kind of uses Julius Caesar as an example of a tyrant.
And that's the book that Alex turned him on about the New World Order.
I feel like...
Maybe it's not as a sophisticated take that Chase is pulling out, or at least it seems inconsistent from them.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, my favorite part of any Christian faith is believing that Caesar is the guy who should be running things.
dan friesen
So, they take some spaces calls, of course.
There's some random weirdos.
Liz Churchill seems to be calling in literally every time they do this.
She's a right-wing...
What's she up to?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Just having the same last name as Winston Churchill gives you enough...
You're right.
It does.
Never mind.
dan friesen
It does.
And you'll see just how much the last name or theoretical last name matters later.
jordan holmes
I hate myself.
dan friesen
But before that, another luminary of right wing, whatever, internet shitheads, Jackson Hinkle.
jordan holmes
Okay, I know that name.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's been on Alex's show before.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
He's a guy who's into Bernie and stuff.
That's right.
And at this moment, he's pushing his way into the market considerably with an idea of solidarity with Gaza.
But, of course...
jordan holmes
A false idea of let's pretend to be in solidarity, and I'm going to say this on the radio.
dan friesen
So he talks about something that he and Alex should team up on.
unidentified
Alex and Chase, I'm sure you've seen all the videos coming out from Ole Miss and Mississippi.
Personally, I think that despite the aesthetics and the virtue signaling of both sides of that protest, you know, you got the...
jackson hinkle
You got the right-wingers, the frat bros, and you got the other side being the liberal extremists and stuff.
unidentified
What would you think?
jackson hinkle
From what I understand, those protests at Ole Miss have kind of died down, but if they reignite, what would you think about going there with me or going to another college?
alex jones
It's funny you say that, Jackson.
I thought this morning that I want to go to one of these campuses and tell everybody stop it.
Remember when Rand Paul was about to win the Senate, they caught Democrat staffers dressed up in American outfits saying we're the KKK with Rand Paul, but we did Google searches and found them.
And I would bet money that most of those guys are getting paid to do that.
What do you think?
unidentified
I think that there are probably some of the people that are doing the more racist stuff or trying to fight with the Trump kids on both sides.
I think there's probably provocateurs.
jackson hinkle
But overall, the masses of the students on both sides probably both agree that we shouldn't be sending money to Israel starting a new war or, you know, going after the First Amendment, which is why I think if we spoke to both sides, we could actually probably get them to agree on a lot of things.
alex jones
That's exactly what I thought.
If I had a bullhorn, I'd say 22 million are dead from the shot.
Fentanyl's killing hundreds of thousands.
The borders are wide open.
The dollars you value.
Stop fighting with each other!
unidentified
Yeah, 100%.
Well, I have some friends at Ole Miss who are friends with a lot of the kids that were in the frat side of it.
So if it reignites, I'm going to reach out to you, and I think we should go there.
dan friesen
Oh, what a shock.
You're friends with the racist side.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Interesting.
You're not friends with friends with the other side.
That is the one that you're supposedly in line with.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is weird.
Almost not surprising at all.
So I think Alex's strategy of yelling stop it is probably a great one.
I think odds are that would settle it.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
An asshole with a bullhorn.
jordan holmes
I think...
dan friesen
Trying to infantilize people and tell them to stop it.
jordan holmes
I think it would be a surreal experience, though, for a kid.
Let's say a UT Austin kid who knows about Alex, who's grown up with Alex being the agitator at places they've been.
dan friesen
Probably not.
Because he's aged out of that.
So maybe you know Owen Troyer as that or something.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
But I mean, like, maybe when you were a kid.
You know, when you were...
Whatever.
I don't know.
My point is this.
It would be surreal to be at a protest in a volatile space and then to have Alex Jones set up and be like, everyone disperse.
Everyone, please never protest.
alex jones
Look.
jordan holmes
This reasoning is silly.
dan friesen
You need to...
Pay attention to my conspiracies!
Not what you think and feel and care about.
No, what I care about is really what we need to unite around.
unidentified
Do not take action here!
dan friesen
We talked about this on the last episode, but that's legitimately the only way he engages with these things.
It's like, aha, there's a mass of people who are really intensely excited about something.
I can exploit this and maybe try and redirect it towards the things that I want to direct it towards.
And that's what he tried to do with Owen Schroer at the UTU protest, and that video is disappointing for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's weird for these shitheads, because they really do not understand that they're not even involved in the conversation.
Like, they don't get that it's not, like, what they're used to, you know?
Like, they're going in there like, oh, it's there after these Trump kids, and it's like, man, this is not even, you don't even know where you're at.
dan friesen
But there's still a desire to exploit, and that's what Jackson is essentially pitching to Alex.
He's like, hey, you know how you and Nick Fuentes and Ali Alexander went around to all the state houses during the Stop the Steal thing, and you got a lot of attention off that?
Let's do that, but with the Ole Miss rally.
Let's go see if we can go get some real serious attention out of this.
And it's kind of sad.
jordan holmes
Not going to happen.
dan friesen
It's probably not, but it's also...
Sad.
jordan holmes
It is very sad.
dan friesen
Hashtag sad.
jordan holmes
Hashtag sad.
Well, you're a social media cat now, aren't you?
dan friesen
I am.
It's the only thing that matters.
So the other thing that is hashtag sad is that Alex, this whole show, has been promoting a giant COVID whistleblower that is going to come on.
And they're going to do this.
They're going to have this revelatory interview.
But her internet doesn't work.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yeah, it ends up not happening.
They have to push it to another day.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yeah, her internet's down.
No whistleblowing today.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But it's not a conspiracy.
No one's trying to stop the whistleblowing.
jordan holmes
I want to promise that she's going to be back.
This better not be a fucking removing computer chips from unhoused people shit all over again.
dan friesen
Watch this space.
We will find out eventually if this internet is back up.
jordan holmes
If this is bullshit, I'm going to be furious.
dan friesen
I mean, he says the person's name, and there's like a video of them.
So presumably they're a real person in all this.
It's not like just made up out of whole cloth.
But their internet was down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so we have nothing.
jordan holmes
And that happens.
dan friesen
And they gotta fill some time.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex plays a considerably lengthed video from his gold sponsor, Kirk Elliott.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Of Alex and him talking about how you need to buy gold now.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because the collapse and the Summer of Rage and all that is coming.
And then Chase and Alex just kind of have to kill some time.
unidentified
They just...
dan friesen
They're gonna go back to space calls, which they didn't mean to do.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But, you know, hey, your whistleblower's gone, so you gotta.
But...
They also end up not being able to connect to the space, I think.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
And so they have to kill some time in the only way that they know how.
alex jones
Chase Geyser, how are you doing today?
chase geiser
I'm doing well.
It's always a pleasure to be on the show with you, Alex, and I feel very privileged to have a front row seat to the show.
alex jones
Yeah, it's quite the show, I tell you.
chase geiser
I don't think the audience realizes how loud you are in here.
dan friesen
They do.
alex jones
They don't realize how loud I am?
chase geiser
Yeah, yeah, because, you know, it's compressed on radio.
Everything's the same volume.
unidentified
How loud am I?
chase geiser
You yell, man.
The whole room shakes.
alex jones
I'm not that loud.
You know how loud I can really be?
chase geiser
I don't know if I'm worth it.
alex jones
I'm louder than any drill sergeant I've ever heard of.
chase geiser
You got a war cry in you?
alex jones
Oh, I'm not going to do that.
I don't want to mess my voice up.
That's why it's like that.
No, I can be really, really loud.
chase geiser
I believe it.
alex jones
So, yeah.
I've had my kids yell at me before.
chase geiser
Your kids yelled at you?
alex jones
Yeah, you know.
I never even have to spank them, but I just yell at them.
chase geiser
Right.
alex jones
And they don't like it.
chase geiser
Oh, man.
alex jones
You want to yell at you?
chase geiser
Yeah, do it.
alex jones
You're kind of asking for it right now.
unidentified
Do it.
Do it.
chase geiser
Yell at me.
alex jones
You know, yells like that come out naturally, but...
I'll give you 10%.
How about that?
chase geiser
All right.
alex jones
You want to hear 10%?
unidentified
Chase Gunzer, get up off your ass and kill that son of a bitch!
alex jones
Do it right now!
Do you hear what I'm telling you?
Do you hear me?
Burning too good for you.
Killing too good for you.
unidentified
You should be torn into little bitty pieces and buried alive!
alex jones
It's about half.
chase geiser
That's pretty good.
alex jones
Tell it me now.
Go ahead.
chase geiser
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not.
No, no.
It's like asking.
alex jones
No, yell at me.
This is unreal.
chase geiser
This is unreal.
I don't know.
I can't do it, man.
I can't.
alex jones
Yes, you can.
Take some opera.
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
unidentified
Out of the night that covers me, black as a fit from pole to pole.
I like whatever gods may be for my unconquerable soul.
jordan holmes
I like it.
unidentified
I'm not going to even do it.
alex jones
We're having some fun.
We're throwing fits the equipment breaking.
Hey, wait till the nuclear bombs fall.
It's going to get really good.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a good time.
Alex is a three-time state yelling champion.
jordan holmes
That was a two-hander.
Not unlike Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead.
unidentified
It was palpable, their chemistry.
dan friesen
It's electric.
Jesus Christ.
You know what?
I think that Chase is, he does show some chops there.
And like being able to goad Alex, come on, come on, give us a yell.
unidentified
I mean, there's a nice, there's an interesting push-pull.
jordan holmes
There is a dynamic.
dan friesen
It is not good.
No.
But Alex was going to give 10%, started yelling, afterwards said I gave half.
And then later said, I'm not even going to do it.
But he'd already done it.
jordan holmes
He'd already done it.
I don't even...
Yeah, there is something...
Seriously, I'm not even joking.
If I was in a theater watching that as a play, I would find that...
Kind of fascinating.
dan friesen
It's compelling.
jordan holmes
As like an interplay of somebody who's like creating some sort of terrifying, awful, awkward scenario that people can't escape.
This is on purpose in real life.
dan friesen
Well, the internet was down for the whistleblower and they couldn't get the calls going.
Right?
So they had to do something.
And so what they did do was...
Dad, show me masculinity.
unidentified
If this was waiting for Godot, I would not be surprised.
jordan holmes
It is existentially crisis.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And in that crisis, what you dig to is display masculinity in a cartoonish way.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now we get the calls back on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Everything is back on track, and we get a call from someone you'll not believe who calls in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Chase, you want to comment for your other?
chase geiser
No, I want to go straight to this speaker.
Let's go to Escobar Jr.
Escobar Jr., come on in.
pablo escobar-jr
How you doing?
chase geiser
Good, how are you doing?
pablo escobar-jr
Alex, I'm blessed.
Let me tell you something, okay?
A lot of people think that there's like...
I come from a different background.
I come from Colombia.
My father was Pablo Escobar.
So I have a different mentality in what's going on in this country and in this world, but mostly in this country.
I'm personally persecuted every single fucking day by the FBI.
These dudes got no balls.
They're a bunch of pushies and they want to use these powers that they have.
They had to manipulate and to scare Trump supporters.
Let me tell you something.
You don't make peace with these fucking demons.
You destroy them.
Some speaker before, and I am not sorry for how I speak.
This is how I speak, and everybody knows that.
dan friesen
Everybody knows I swear a lot on Pablo Escobar's son.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I have no evidence this is Pablo Escobar's son.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know.
I just want to know about why didn't you take care of those hippos, man?
Go take care of those animals!
dan friesen
Pablo Escobar had one son, Juan Pablo, who now goes by Sebastian Moraquin.
And that's not this guy, for sure.
unidentified
Oh yeah?
jordan holmes
He doesn't go by Pablo Escobar Jr.?
dan friesen
This is just a guy who has a Twitter handle, Escobar Jr., and he just posts a bunch of pro-Trump shit.
I have no evidence that this is actually Pablo Escobar's son.
There's not a record of this.
It's entertaining.
I guess it's fun.
jordan holmes
The type of man Pablo Escobar was?
He historically is the type of man who has many kids who are unclaimed.
dan friesen
Sure.
pablo escobar-jr
Fair.
dan friesen
But he claims that he grew up in the family and, like, with Pablo Escobar as his dad and good friends with his uncle.
jordan holmes
I'm going to throw this out there.
Pablo Escobar was a very documented person.
dan friesen
There's a lot of records.
So look, I mean, we got fake Elon Musk.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And that kind of blew up.
There's, you know, maybe a little bit less traction to that now.
jordan holmes
So why not add fake Pablo Escobar's son?
dan friesen
But also, why?
jordan holmes
Why not?
Why not add a cavalcade of characters if your fucking, your Godot is over, your whistleblower's gone, why not just start adding, like, where's Louisiana Slim?
dan friesen
We got foul-mouthed Pablo Escobar Jr.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's start just going for it.
dan friesen
I question also what we gain even if we imagine this actually is Pablo Escobar's son.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
What does this bring to the table?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, his experience.
It certainly does.
dan friesen
And one piece of that perspective is that Trump is still the president.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
pablo escobar-jr
Look, I know this for a fact.
This is one thing I do know for a fact.
There's not gonna be no civil war, because as of right now, Donald Trump is commander in chief, and I know that for a fact because the military, when they found out that the military Because the plan was to have, and Liz Churchill always speaks on this, the plan was to have eight years Obama, eight years Hillary.
And to have already, they wanted to include the New World Order and all these policies and all these things that are going on right now in the world.
They wanted to do this a long time ago.
But when the military in the United States found out that these machines...
We're being, you know what I'm saying?
Because even Cindy Powell says it in one of her interviews on my page that she had gotten, like, tips.
alex jones
Well, there's no doubt.
That's why they've come after her.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, sure.
So Pablo Escobar's son might just be another Q guy.
jordan holmes
I'm going to throw this out.
You know, like, I'm not, like, I got a good ear.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I like the music of things.
So I'm not saying that I'm an expert on languages or anything.
I don't know what anybody's speaking.
But I will say this.
That is not a Colombian accent.
dan friesen
Interesting.
Interesting you say that.
I don't know.
I don't have as good of an ear.
But I will say that if somebody is saying that Sidney Powell is a good source of information...
I'm gonna go ahead and say, hold on now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Do you not remember that when she was sued about her claims about Dominion, her defense was that no one would take her claim seriously.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
No rational person would believe the things that I'm saying, so I can't be sued for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, but here's the fun thing about that, which I respect.
You can disregard all of that.
You know, like...
Because you feel like the legal system is deep state controlled or whatever, you can say anything you want to the legal system.
dan friesen
She pled guilty in Trump's Georgia case.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's what you gotta do to fight the legal system, man.
It doesn't matter what's real or not with the legal system.
They're gonna do whatever they want.
I'm not saying that you can in real life where you and I live, but in their estimation...
dan friesen
Narrative-wise, there's ways to get past this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I get that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, like, Alex could go into a courtroom and apologize to people, and then when he leaves the courtroom, everybody will be like, yeah, but you only did that because you were in court.
And then he'll go on his radio show and continue to say the same shit that he did in the past.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
She also pled guilty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's that.
dan friesen
But, I mean, I understand how you can just make up your own excuse for, like, ah, she had to do with the legal system.
jordan holmes
I get that.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But...
This guy also believes that Trump's still president.
I think that there is maybe...
Maybe there is not a great pool of people on Twitter spaces.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
Maybe there's a lot of Q stuff that's going to end up flying through.
jordan holmes
Mr. Escobar Jr., all right?
I say this to you.
Your dad's done a lot of harm.
And maybe what you need to focus on is preservation.
Of saving those goddamn hippos.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They're dangerous.
dan friesen
It's about Trump.
jordan holmes
They are everywhere.
dan friesen
So Alex has looked this up, and he can confirm that this is Pablo Escobar's son.
jordan holmes
Okay.
pablo escobar-jr
And I tell people, everybody knows me.
I drive around, my one side has a Colombian flag, the other has a Trump flag, and I drive around like that throughout New Jersey and New York, and now I have an even bigger Trump flag.
alex jones
I know you're for real.
We looked you up, so you're Pablo Escobar's son.
I would love to get you on as a guest, so...
Where do you think this is going with this election?
Because the deep state really seems like they're scared right now.
pablo escobar-jr
The deep state is scared.
dan friesen
I wonder where Alex looked this up.
jordan holmes
23andMe?
dan friesen
There's also a moment in the clip, I think you might have been laughing when it happened, and I didn't isolate the exact moment, but there is a moment in the clip when he first reveals that he's Pablo Escobar's son, where you can hear Chase and Alex on a hot mic, and essentially it sounds like Alex says, is this for real?
And Chase says, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I must have.
I'm sorry.
I could not not laugh at that reveal.
dan friesen
It's a little bit in the background, too.
jordan holmes
Apologies for interrupting.
dan friesen
It very much sounds like Chase is saying, I don't know.
Laugh, but who cares?
jordan holmes
I looked it up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's real.
dan friesen
But this is what happens whenever Alex has something that works for him.
Like, he looked up that one dude's dad co-founded the World Economic Forum.
jordan holmes
He did.
dan friesen
He proved all this stuff because he just makes up shit that he's proven.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's that.
dan friesen
So.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pablo Escobar Jr. says a number of things, and I don't care.
jordan holmes
I imagine he has a lot of thoughts.
dan friesen
He does.
And a lot of obscenity.
At one point, Alex is even like, look.
jordan holmes
I get that you're Pablo Escobar Jr.
dan friesen
We're on the radio.
You're swearing a lot.
And we can delay, but we can't keep delaying.
Right.
So maybe one swear a minute.
jordan holmes
You can just say no to fake Pablo Escobar Jr.
dan friesen
Apparently you can't.
jordan holmes
Apparently you can't.
dan friesen
That's where things are.
jordan holmes
You can't say no to fake Elon.
You can't say no to fake anybody.
Once you say a fake Elon is real, now you're stuck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I honestly do think that it would be not incredibly impossible for people to just start doing impressions and getting on the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
dan friesen
I think it would probably work.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
So we get another caller.
jordan holmes
Rich Little could own this place.
dan friesen
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean...
Even a lesser impressionist.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Me.
So Alex gets another caller, and there's a guy who wants to know about what role Faith plays in things.
jordan holmes
Good question, because it doesn't seem to have come up so far.
dan friesen
Well, Alex has a shocking revelation.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
What role do you think that Faith will play in general for the public, considering what might be?
alex jones
Well, I mean, I know God's real.
It would take 10 hours to talk about it, but God's told me things have come true.
I've been literally had like a voice tell me something and then boom, something happens.
Like, don't drive.
And then a car runs the red light.
I mean, it's happened a lot.
And the most common thing is I'll wake up and there's not a clock in the room and God says, get up and walk to the kitchen.
It'll be 527.
Get up now.
It's 527.
God's done it, like, probably 500 times to me since I was a kid.
Like, hey, I'm here.
There's something bigger.
God showed me, hey, I'm here.
It's real.
And so I've had so many things, and now I more and more know how to dial into it.
So, like, right when I wake up now at about 5 o 'clock in the morning, I keep my eyes closed.
And then, like, I haven't talked about this yet now, but it's just a new thing God's given me.
And it's like, then I can like, it's a crystal ball and I can like see stuff and see things that are happening and then got interpret it.
But it's like, it's next, it's over the horizon future stuff.
So quite frankly, the globalists are scared.
Holy shit!
dan friesen
He's getting new powers!
jordan holmes
I feel like he needs to update his machine.
His CPAP machine is probably...
probably not working well.
dan friesen
Dude!
We're listening to a guy who's talking about getting new magic powers.
jordan holmes
You gotta breathe when you sleep, man.
You gotta breathe.
dan friesen
You have to take a step back and be like, alright, this is supposed to be a political show, and the host is answering a question that is about what is the role that faith plays in the things that are to come, and the answer is, you know, on one level that I have magic powers and I have new magic powers, and then on another more deep level...
The actual answer to that question is, fuck faith.
I know what time it is when I wake up.
Faith doesn't play a role.
Alex has certainty of his religious thing.
There is no need for faith.
Faith is absent in Alex's reality.
So when asked about faith, Alex replies with, God talks to me and has given me magic.
jordan holmes
I don't have to believe because God and I are cool.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
Because honestly, I think that this guy would be incredibly disappointed with, and I think a lot of people who are religious may be disappointed with, the answer to what role does faith play in the way that we live our lives and how things are supposed to play out.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I think they would be offended or off-put by an answer being, faith is irrelevant, it's stupid, it's for people who God doesn't actually talk back to.
Right.
That's offensive, I think.
jordan holmes
I mean, you would expect that.
But people find me, when I talk about religion, very offensive.
People don't find people who are...
Blasphemous, very offensive.
They don't find that offensive at all.
dan friesen
They appreciate that a great deal.
I think different people hear you and Alex.
jordan holmes
It does seem like there's a difference.
dan friesen
To be fair, some of the stuff you say about religion could be offensive to them.
jordan holmes
But you accept that.
He is essentially saying that main characters get to talk to God.
I am a main character.
dan friesen
I'm the prophet.
jordan holmes
You guys are all people who are just there.
dan friesen
And if he had to expound on this answer, I assume that the next part of it would be faith is important for you.
jordan holmes
For the little people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it is like, you understand that that's the central fucking idea.
You cannot know.
You must have faith.
That's the whole, like if...
Otherwise, we don't have to deal with any of this shit.
dan friesen
No, God's given us these magic powers, and they're evolving.
jordan holmes
But that's the thing.
That's the problem.
If there were magic, I wouldn't be angry.
dan friesen
I think you'd still be a little angry.
Maybe that would be your magic power.
jordan holmes
That would be a pretty strong power.
dan friesen
So, I think that powers evolving is a little bit of a problem.
This gets messed up in the comic books or whatever.
And I don't know too much about it, so I leave it alone.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But like, okay.
Wolverine?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's got a healing factor.
jordan holmes
Yes, he does.
dan friesen
That's his power.
jordan holmes
It's pretty important.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
It's kind of central to his whole deal.
dan friesen
Yes.
Professor X is a telepath.
You know?
jordan holmes
The whole thing.
dan friesen
When powers evolve, things get messy.
Like in the later seasons of Heroes.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It got real messy.
When people, their powers started to become a little bit, you get this power, but you also have this power.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Not good.
It's a mess.
And that's where Alex is now.
He's gaining new superpowers.
jordan holmes
This is our Dark Phoenix storyline.
That's what's going on.
Jean Grey is getting too much power.
We gotta stop her.
dan friesen
Alex absorbed the Trump.
The cosmic energy has become too much for him.
jordan holmes
Yep, he's going to explode.
dan friesen
And I just have this last clip here that is just giving you a sense of how recent these new powers are.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, I told you real stuff there.
And now, it's like a whole other game levels of open.
It's like a higher level game, you get bigger weapons.
It's happened six, seven times in my life.
The last two weeks, bigger weapons.
I was just giving them.
I'm trying to figure out how they work, though.
It's kind of like, whoa, what's this thing?
You know, it's crazy.
dan friesen
Last couple of weeks, Alex has been given new magic powers, and he doesn't quite know how to use them yet.
jordan holmes
Is this just the painful erections?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is God just giving people painful erections as a way of letting them know that the end times are here?
dan friesen
I wonder.
See, now, I'm trying to conceptualize this, and it's like a roguelike kind of video game.
Alex has lost...
Sure.
The bankruptcy is coming to a close.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
So it's like Hades, right?
He's going through the first level of hell, right?
He's made it up to...
dan friesen
It's like a video game, and he ended the run.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And now he's restarting the run, and God has given him a new power.
jordan holmes
He got 100 points that he can now apply to his characteristics.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And he's got a stat boost, so now he can move on, and he's got a double punch.
dan friesen
It'd be nice if life was an RPG.
jordan holmes
Man.
That's why we play him.
Because the real world is shit.
Again, if magic were real, we would be doing that.
That's why we have real magic in fictional shit.
dan friesen
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So, anyway, Alex has new magic powers that I look forward to manifesting in very real and concrete, important ways.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just think that, like, obviously there's a theatricality and there's a showmanship to all of this stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But if Alex truly believes the things that he's saying on air, like, People...
If this was someone who said this to you on the street, you would look at them in a certain way.
And I think Alex is very privileged that people don't look at him like that.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's amazing because it's crazy no matter what.
It's another one of those things where it's like, oh, if a person means this, that is a crazy person.
And if he doesn't mean this, that is only a thing a crazy person would not mean!
dan friesen
And that's what Alex has done.
He's sort of hacked reality in a way that he can get away with saying these kinds of things and the audience is just like, oh wow, he's got new magic powers.
jordan holmes
It is that Douglas Adams, the superficial flaws are so shitty that they...
Mask how terrible the fundamental flaws are.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
So anyway, it's the big one.
jordan holmes
It's the big one.
dan friesen
Once again.
unidentified
Oh my god.
dan friesen
We've got a new character.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I wonder if Pablo Escobar Jr. will call in more.
Probably will.
jordan holmes
I wonder...
We gotta get, like...
He didn't give us an exact rundown of his new powers.
dan friesen
No.
Because he doesn't quite understand them yet.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
This is my new...
dan friesen
No, that's probably one of the only things I care about.
unidentified
Right, I want to find out what his powers are as this goes on.
dan friesen
We've got to figure out what his potential is as a superhero.
jordan holmes
I'm honestly back in on the present only if we get regular updates on powers.
dan friesen
I don't think we'll get specifics.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
Again, watch this space.
Whistleblower will find out if her internet starts working, and we'll learn what Alex's new superpowers are.
jordan holmes
Making Adrian Dittman into the real Elon Musk.
Like a Pinocchio power.
An inverse cricket power.
dan friesen
I was thinking of it like a sort of transmuting alchemy of sorts.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
Turn fake Elon Musk into gold.
jordan holmes
I like it.
Human transmutation is a problem, though.
dan friesen
So we'll find out and see what happens here.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Probably nothing.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also not on social media.
jordan holmes
We are not on social media!
dan friesen
But we'll be back.
Until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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