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May 3, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:25:32
#923: May 1, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in and find Alex very excited about a new undercover video, iffy about an employee's special report, and 50/50 on whether or not he's going out of business.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
18:11
d
dan friesen
35:22
j
jordan holmes
21:36
Appearances
c
chase geiser
01:06
g
greg reese
02:13
j
john bound
02:12
Clips
j
james okeefe
00:13
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight.
Need, need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Right, I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is at the mailbag.
Yep.
I've got a very nice package from Amy.
Thank you so much for a very nice little care package, including a little Lego of Kevin Bird.
Kevin the Bird from Up.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
I've not had time to make it yet, but it's shocking that such a thing exists and very thoughtful, and so thank you very much.
jordan holmes
That is very nice of her.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
How about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, I'm going to go with the Old People Challenge.
We've been watching it.
dan friesen
I'm behind one episode.
jordan holmes
You're behind one episode, so I won't do any spoilers, but there is something about the Old People Challenge this year that is kind of incredible, and that is Leroy and Cam just being...
And in general, like...
Well-adjusted, healthy people who've gone through some shit and are, like, working on their lives and, like, are cool.
It's amazing.
dan friesen
It could be the prelude for an incredible on-air tragedy.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or it could be a character type that we don't have a whole lot of in that world.
jordan holmes
In the reality TV show world?
dan friesen
Healthy, supportive relationships of people who seem very happy with each other.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
Absolute insanity.
I'm working on that.
It's nuts.
It's nuts.
Especially on...
Juxtaposed.
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
With the utter chaos that is going on with other people's lives.
jordan holmes
Just utter insanity.
unidentified
And they are weathering it.
jordan holmes
It is like looking at people who feel like they see through the Matrix of the TV show now.
They're sitting there going just like...
Oh, right.
Oh, I get what they were doing to us.
dan friesen
It's almost fourth wall breaking.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
They almost shouldn't be there.
They're too...
dan friesen
You've graduated and now you can go live a human life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like people.
Yeah.
But it's great to see.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah, it is.
They are delightful.
Yep.
I'll catch up.
Then we can talk about the last episode.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about May 1st, 2024.
jordan holmes
Mayday!
dan friesen
Yes, that is the day that we're going over.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
A day that will live without famey or information.
It's a day.
dan friesen
It stinks.
So we'll get down to business on what it stinks.
But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, this is a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, even though I was Alex's favorite bartender in Kauai, he didn't tip me enough to become a technocrat.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Pretzel the rosy boa and ghost the corn snake stole the human's credit card to be wonks.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Mark says, multiple sclerosis sucks, and so does Alex Jones.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a couple of technocrats in the mix, so thank you so much to Sammy is going to Columbia.
Get darfed on idiots.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And I was already wonk and sent in my shout-out, but instead of saying Chody Foster, pronounced like Jody, but Chody, Dan said...
Chode E. Foster, pronounced like no word in the middle.
So I upgraded to Technocrat to get this rectified.
Also, Dan, you sounded really happy the last couple months, and it makes me happy to hear.
Come to a live show in Seattle.
Thank you so much.
You are now a Technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
unidentified
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
alex jones
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
That's very nice.
Would love to come to Seattle.
And the ultimate irony is I have been miserable.
I feel a little better now-ish, but I had been miserable the last few months.
So, good.
jordan holmes
Yep, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we start off the show with Tales of a Summer of Rage coming.
Very familiar.
alex jones
It is Wednesday, May 1st, 2024.
It's the high communist holiday and they are rioting all over the United States and Europe as we speak.
The globalists are escalating the crises into the summer of rage and love 2.0 ahead of the election of President Trump.
We're obviously going to be talking a lot about that and other very important news stories today.
dan friesen
Very important stuff is going to be coming up, but the summer of rage is upon us once again.
It's always upon us.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And thrilled.
Thrilled to hear it.
Riots breaking out everywhere.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's the problem, right?
It feels very ragey of summer is coming.
But this is it.
No credits.
No credits for this.
We've had a summer of rage coming every year since we started doing this show.
dan friesen
That is true.
That is true.
There's a brand to Alex's summer of rage thing.
And he believes that it is all just a setup in order to, you know, divert Trump from getting into office.
So, you know, it's a little bit tired.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would probably say if I was going to be a betting man, I would bet on a summer of intense anger, at the very least.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe a little bit of a fall of that, too.
Maybe a winter.
jordan holmes
Could be quite a while.
dan friesen
People are not happy.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So, there's some big news, like Alex said.
And he teases a little bit of a...
alex jones
I got a call at about 6 a.m. this morning while I was doing research from James O 'Keefe.
And then he sent me a video about an hour ago, a special report.
And we talked again, and he is going to be on the show at the start of the broadcast tomorrow.
And I'm going to be on the spaces with him at 5 p.m. today on X when this breaks.
We talked several times, but I called him back and I said, you didn't tell me what I can say about this.
And he said, well, whatever you think's best, just don't break the details of it.
And I get a lot of this information first because I've been good about never giving up sources and been really good about not jumping the gun on stories.
And he just said, whatever I think's best, hands down, this is the biggest thing O 'Keefe's ever done.
And I've always said he's broken so many huge stories with his teams that it's hard to say what his biggest thing ever was.
But you notice they took down Project Veritas about a month after he, or less than a month after he exposed the head of global mRNA research at Pfizer in New York, who thought he was there for a pickup, about how they made the viruses in labs.
They're going to roll them out.
Not just COVID, but new viruses to take over the world and make trillions of dollars.
People couldn't believe it was real and it was confirmed it was real.
This story is a hundred times bigger.
dan friesen
So that's all a fun retelling of how James O'Keefe left Project Veritas.
In the real world, according to Veritas, he was being allowed a quiet exit from the company after the board found out about his lavish spending habits using Veritas donor funds.
As part of that exit, he signed a non-disparagement agreement, which he almost immediately broke by telling everyone that he was forced out for his intrepid journalism, like what Alex is saying, which was naturally all just part of his promotional campaign The O 'Keefe Media Group, or OMG.
Oh, God.
Veritas suing him and their new CEO quitting because she found herself in a, quote, unsalvageable mess, one wrought with strong evidence of past illegality.
jordan holmes
Wait, Veritas or the O 'Keefe Media Group?
dan friesen
Project Veritas.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if I understand correctly...
dan friesen
The new CEO is like, I'm fucking out of here.
jordan holmes
Let me try and get this right, okay?
If I understand correctly, these dirtbags, right, made James O 'Keefe...
The James O 'Keefe signed an NDA, or a non-disparagement agreement.
dan friesen
That's my understanding, yes.
jordan holmes
Inexplicably thinking, well, this will be honored.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The guy who fucking sneaks into places illegally and then edits together bullshit to make them look bad is going to be nice to us.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's probably going to be chill this time.
jordan holmes
So then he does the thing, right?
And they go, well, I'm going to go sue him.
But in the meantime, in the attempt of suing them, somebody puts together all of their law stuff.
Nope, I don't want to be in a court of law on either side of me with this.
dan friesen
Well, I'm not sure about all of that, but the CEO definitely was like, I'm out.
jordan holmes
I'm out.
dan friesen
Because there's crimes here.
jordan holmes
There's so many crimes!
dan friesen
That I don't want to be involved with.
Maybe didn't know about...
Who knows?
Anyway, James O 'Keefe didn't prove all that stuff about COVID.
It was just another one of his manipulatively edited undercover videos, and now he's got another one to release, so he's doing the PR tour of outlets that have standards low enough to talk to them, like Infowars, which is what...
When Alex is like, I get this news early because I trust it, I don't give up sources and stuff, that's just code for I'm what he can get.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm the PR that he can get.
And so I'm there.
So here's the long and short of this.
O 'Keefe released a video where an undercover person talked to a guy claiming to be in the CIA who said that Trump is a complete idiot and that it's possible that higher-ups in the intelligence community kept information from him.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
He doesn't seem to concretely know that this is the case, but...
It's honestly hard to tell anything because the video O 'Keefe released is heavily edited as always, so context is really difficult to nail down.
Anyway, Alex is doing his little part in this whole game, whitewashing O 'Keefe's embarrassing fallout with Veritas, and hyping his new story as the biggest thing he's ever done.
It's a...
I don't care at all.
I can't care ever when I hear James O 'Keefe's name come up.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's like, okay, whoopty shit, we're doing this again.
jordan holmes
No, it is...
Like...
I know that they know how to do it, because I know, like, I've read the stories where, like, a hacker, a super hacker, does all hacky kind of stuff, and they're like, well, the crime and such, but really what needs to happen is you can't touch a computer.
If you can't be around a computer, you can't hurt anybody, so there's really nothing.
We don't need to put you in jail or anything.
That kind of thing.
Like, James O 'Keefe can't be near a camera.
Like, he just can't.
Like, he can't be near the camera, and he can't be near the internet.
You know, like, just keep it.
He's fine.
dan friesen
You would hope the free market would sort this kind of thing out, but people just refuse to learn their lesson with him being full of shit.
jordan holmes
If they can't, they can't.
So he doesn't get a camera anymore.
Like, that's the rule.
I make the rule!
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
We've now amended the First Amendment to...
jordan holmes
No James O 'Keefe's.
dan friesen
...with cameras.
So, Alex has seen this because O 'Keefe sent him an early edition.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is really just struggling with, like, how do I not spoil this?
But, I mean, he kind of does throughout.
alex jones
I have seen the first installment, and it is bombshell.
I was completely calm in here, getting ready.
And then he sent me the video, and he gave me a passcode, and I went in my office, and I began sweating and caught myself breathing hard.
Having a little bit of an anxiety attack watching it.
For so many reasons, because we already know this is going on, but this is just total vindication and validation, but also, what are they going to do to O 'Keefe?
And what are we going to do about this rogue government?
So, when you also look at the quality of these high-level spies, And which is very, very low.
They're a bunch of effeminate leftists.
It just makes you know how rotten the leadership of this country is and how much they hate the American people.
Because they really are ganged up on us with all these agencies and all the taxpayer money and the rest of it.
So it's very hard to not tell you what I saw.
dan friesen
That kind of characterizes a fair amount of...
What the content ends up being.
Alex struggling to not tell you things that he saw, but telling you things that he saw and desperately promoting his upcoming Twitter space with James O 'Keefe.
jordan holmes
Right.
I can't reveal my source.
It's Donald Trump Jr.
dan friesen
Right.
That certainly looms large in memory.
I can't tell you my sources when I'm making them up or I'm embarrassed by them.
I feel like I can stand to gain by saying who my service is.
I generally...
jordan holmes
Almost immediately.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As fast as possible.
I go, I might get points from this.
dan friesen
So we get another thing that Alex does all the time, and that is the...
He teased it a little bit in that last clip, but he gets more into it.
The, uh, fuck, I was ready to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I had a great show planned, and then this whole thing threw me off.
jordan holmes
Goddamn!
alex jones
I was just talking to Keith Minutes before I went live on air.
I'm really trying to digest this, because he said whatever I think's best I can say, but...
Just don't give the story away yet, obviously.
The biggest thing is the sense of urgency.
I almost questioned O 'Keefe, like, okay, you're pre-hyping this.
You know how dangerous that is?
But I think it's the right thing only a few hours before to do it.
dan friesen
You're designed to hype it.
alex jones
So in case they do try to suppress it, they can't stop it.
But we are firing the bat signal up to Elon Musk.
O 'Keefe, again, did just meet with Trump.
And Trump is very concerned, obviously, and very...
Very focused on this while he's at the show trial run by the CIA.
It's not just Soros.
He's kind of the bag man cutout that he gives the money to Tides Foundation and the other groups.
So I'm kind of poleaxed right now because I was, again, ready for all this other news that we're going to be hitting, and it's huge and very important.
But to know you're under an illegal coup, and it's not like it's just boss hog that wants to own and run things and be powerful.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
These people hate this country.
They hate families.
They hate Christianity.
They hate God.
They hate humanity itself.
dan friesen
I didn't take that away from...
I did watch the James O 'Keefe video.
jordan holmes
Did you?
dan friesen
And I didn't take that away from it.
That was not my conclusion.
jordan holmes
There was no, like, we hate the family, we hate Christians, we hate the humanity itself?
dan friesen
No.
There's a fair amount of Trump's a fucking idiot, though.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
That comes through.
See, it's his biggest story ever.
I don't know.
It's a zero.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
I think this is a weird testament to how few people actually read all of the tell-alls that come out of, you know, like, you read the headlines from the New York Times or whatever review of, like, John Kelly tells the story of when he was blah, you know, that whole thing.
But if you actually read those books, they're so fucking boring.
And it's really just self-aggrandizement.
I grew up and I was, oh, I struggled.
And then I'm the greatest, and then Trump's an idiot, and then you move on, you know, like that.
What they don't say is all the stuff that they can't, they literally can't say, but they like obliquely go like, if Trump knew about that, you know, and you're like, you said if.
You know what that means, right?
You're implying that not only did he not know about it, but you...
Consistently, along with a lot of other people, did not tell him about stuff because you knew he would behave like a child.
dan friesen
Now imagine if you read a tell-all book.
But someone else had edited it manipulatively in order to...
jordan holmes
They did, though!
There's an editor, it goes through a process.
dan friesen
But what if that editor is James O 'Keefe and he has an agenda?
You're going to get a weird book.
jordan holmes
Now we're talking.
dan friesen
And that's the book that you end up with.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So Alex was really caught off guard by this news, but he had other news to cover.
And so it was like, what's some of that other news?
alex jones
80% plus of women who take a Pfizer or Moderna shot during the first two trimesters have a miscarriage.
That was the New England Medical Journal two years ago.
Now there's more government reports confirming every Western country has on average an 80% miscarriage rate in women that take it.
Period.
Across all three trimesters.
I mean, just that is like, wow, what a really nice friendly group of people.
dan friesen
This is entirely not true.
In the May 2023 issue of the journal Human Reproduction, researchers did a meta-analysis of 21 studies, including five randomized trials and 16 observational studies, and found that the miscarriage rate among people who took the vaccine was about 9%, which is no higher than the general population.
They found no association with vaccination and miscarriage.
Other studies have reached similar conclusions.
Alex is rattling off old anti-vax talking points, this particular one being from late 2021.
That wasn't from the New England Journal of Medicine.
It was taken from a blog called Daily Expose, who had reimagined some numbers from the New England Medical Journal.
jordan holmes
Reimagined?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Interesting way of describing it.
dan friesen
Because the study reported that they didn't find, quote, any obvious safety signals with respect to pregnancy or neonatal outcomes associated with COVID-19 vaccination in the third trimester of pregnancy.
When Alex says that this is about the first and second trimester vaccination, it's a dead giveaway that this is the source he's talking about, because this was the way that the study's data was misrepresented.
In the study, they only were using participants who had an endpoint in their pregnancy, which is to say that there was either a birth or the pregnancy had ended.
This was fairly early in the time of the COVID vaccines being available, so the people in the study cohort had mostly been recently vaccinated.
Which was an admitted limitation of their data set.
Quote, "Whereas some pregnancies with vaccination in the first and early second trimester have been completed, the majority are ongoing.
People who were vaccinated in the first and second trimester were underrepresented in the stats because most of them were still pregnant, whereas 100% of them who had miscarried would be included in the statistics." Right.
Anti-vax media outlets obscured this context and lied to their audiences to push their chosen narrative.
And Alex is continuing to do that three years later and pretending that it's...
Fucking news.
So great.
80% of people are miscarrying if they got vax.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's my problem with that, is that seems like an intimidating number.
But that's one of those numbers that if you just, like, step back, then if that number were true, I wouldn't be reading about that number.
I would be reading about how hospital...
dan friesen
Everything is on fire.
jordan holmes
Like, no, no, no.
Like, hospital baby...
Wings are empty.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, all of them across the world are empty.
dan friesen
There would be a million subsidiary headlines that you would be hearing that were...
Like, ridiculously huge.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it would be insane if that high number of every woman who was...
Yeah, that would end the world.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's the same sort of thing with 22 million people have died because of the vaccine.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You understand what other things would need to be going on in order for this landscape to be correct.
jordan holmes
There's other stuff that happens if 22 million people die than just you talk about it on the radio.
dan friesen
Uh-huh, and you blow our minds by telling us.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So Alex whines a bit about some vaccine complaints, but then gets sidetracked in sort of what I would call petty, selfish grievance.
alex jones
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
We're being murdered en masse, and then I'll be sitting there, it only happens every once in a while now, getting groceries or whatever, and somebody will walk over and say, how dare you attack those children at Sandy Hook?
Of course, I did nothing they say I did.
It's all made up.
What I supposedly did to these people, they had show trials.
But, I mean, it's like, you think I feel guilty because, oh, I'm not a war criminal.
I didn't lie about WMDs.
I didn't, you know, fund Hezbollah.
I didn't do any of these things.
But then the left's like, oh, he's mean to dead kids.
Just totally made up.
Because I covered a story about people questioning anomalies at Sandy Hook.
Wasn't even the guy that first said it, just barely covered it, which is fine.
That's our First Amendment.
But that's why they had to have judges find me guilty in both trials before the trial began, and then have staged events with HBO where the judge is having makeup put on by HBO, and then she goes, the movie premiere, the main selection, it's South by Southwest, the main movie.
And she is on the red carpet and gets standing ovations.
I mean, only in third world countries would that happen.
Anywhere else you're recused.
You judicially get in trouble.
You get kicked off the bench for that.
But they don't care.
It's not about me.
I don't bring that up because I want to put myself in the middle of this.
But we now know it was the FBI and CIA ran that.
Well, I mean, it was the head of the FBI in Connecticut who admitted on the stand.
He initiated it and went and organized the law firms and the families to sue me.
I never said his name, didn't know who he was.
We never talked about him.
No one here.
He said it on the stand.
He got $130 million.
I keep saying $95 million.
That was the initial.
Then in other damages, the judge said, another almost $40 million.
So it's $133 million, which I've never made that in my life, personally.
I've never made $50 million in my life.
I mean, it's just complete bonkers, cuckoo land.
They said, that's not enough.
We want $2.76 trillion, the GDP of India, Bloomberg.
Again, it's all over-the-top crazy town.
So the FBI goes, organizes it, runs it all with the CIA.
Does show trials, and then I'm the bad man.
I'm the worst man in history.
I'm worse than Stalin and Hitler and Mao Zedong all rolled into one.
And that's who the left thinks is the bad guy.
While they're being injected with something that causes at least 80% miscarriages.
Massive turbo cancers.
22 million dead, according to insurance actuaries, in the Western world alone and growing.
dan friesen
So I feel like this gives you a feeling of what it's often like to listen to this show.
jordan holmes
Miserable?
dan friesen
Well, you're rambling about his own petty, like, I've been wronged by the courts.
It's like, aren't you supposed to be talking about the vaccine?
He gets back to the vaccine.
It's just, that is like...
Take a pill of Alex's show, that's it.
He's talking about some bullshit, gets distracted by his own business, and then somehow weaves it back to the bullshit.
And you just kind of come away from it like, I didn't learn anything.
He's trying to make me feel something, certainly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is what you would expect from somebody who did what he did.
Later, when he's destitute and he's in a bar somewhere and you can't get away from him because he's just grabbing you and he's like, everybody thinks I'm the bad guy but I'm not really the bad guy.
And you're like, I really don't care.
dan friesen
Do your show, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the thing.
You can either do that rant and be destitute in a bar or you can do your show.
I can't allow you to be both.
dan friesen
Apparently people enjoy the guy at the bar.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Someone must.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
So James O 'Keefe, he has this video.
And Alex has some critiques of the spy who's in it.
alex jones
I mean, it's just incredible.
And what's insane is these people, anybody that was a real spy would never even tell their wife about what they do.
jordan holmes
Honey, I'm a real spy.
alex jones
I mean, I had family that did stuff, and they go, oh, gee, you're with the government.
No, no, they told me the government was bad.
That's why I knew all this when I was like 12 years old.
I mean, I had family, quite a few of them, because that was back in the age of Humet, those huge numbers.
Now it's all digital.
And they were all like Mr. America, Captain America types, and actually thought they were fighting for America, but then they found out it was bad.
And they didn't tell me or my mom or family about this till they were dying.
Till they were dying.
dan friesen
Alex really backed himself into a corner there and had to contradict his own lore quite a bit.
He's supposed to have been listening around the dinner table while his spy relative talked about the evil of the government back when he was a kid.
It wasn't all deathbed confessions.
According to his own mythology, he grew up surrounded by this stuff.
But...
To acknowledge that in this moment takes away from his desire to insult the CIA guy in O 'Keefe's video who's talking about what he does, which no spy would ever do.
You can kind of sense Alex getting lost in his own shit talk as he was going along there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's another one of the experiences of listening to a show.
You're like, wait a second.
You're a pretzel here, man.
jordan holmes
Aren't you undermining your own, like, this guy is a super spy and is super important, and then you're also like, this fucking idiot isn't a spy?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, what are you doing?
dan friesen
What is happening?
There is a little bit of a...
Oh, so this guy's a joke, then.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, but he's very serious, but he's very serious.
jordan holmes
No, you said he was not really a spy, but he's doing what you know about spies, and I'm supposed to trust you before spies.
That's, like, the number one thing.
dan friesen
But he's very serious, but he's a joke.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I mean, it's just sort of like the globalists.
They're super powerful, but also, haha, foiled at every turn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Man, that's the thing.
Like, I just...
Is America good?
Is America bad?
He's always...
It's the enemy, but also it's actually the deep state.
It's like, man, pick a lane and then let's roll.
dan friesen
Well, we can agree on one thing.
Actually, two.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
One, Zuckerberg sucks.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And two, Alex loves to go to Hawaii and pretend that he's going there to look into Zuckerberg's bunker.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit about how...
That bunker will be Zuckerberg's tomb.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I posted on X yesterday, I said, you know, doesn't Zuckerberg basically know he's building a tomb for himself with this 10-story deep giant base in Kauai?
That's not a threat.
People say, well, why is it a tomb?
Well, if there's a breakdown of civilization and people know you've got a bunker in between towns of people that hate you, Bunkers are only against other governments that are going to try to hit you from the air or space or with artillery.
Once you're in a bunker, no matter how fortified, it is a death trap.
And then people ask why.
If you don't know military tactics, I'm not going to explain it to you.
Anybody knows you just back up a truck of gasoline and you dump it down the breathing holes and you light the fuse.
And I'm not...
I don't want anything to happen to Zuckerberg.
I'm trying to tell them...
unidentified
Why not?
alex jones
Or you just hook up an engine to their snorkels.
They can try to have their own air system.
It's not going to matter.
There's a hundred ways to take people out in a bunker.
Bunkers are tombs.
Bunkers are the last place you want to be.
jordan holmes
Get out the bunker, junker.
unidentified
Now...
alex jones
Bunkers that have their exits are good.
That's why, reportedly, he's got a submarine there that goes out to his yacht that's off the coast.
But that's not the question.
I don't raise how his bunker is a tomb as some veiled threat.
It's warning them, like, what are you thinking?
What do you think your security people are going to do once this all goes down?
They're going to mount your head on a stick.
They're going to live in your bunker.
dan friesen
That's right.
It's out of concern.
He's ruminating about these fantasies, not as a veiled threat, but as he's concerned that Zuckerberg doesn't realize the kind of danger he's doing.
I think he just wants to talk about how he has fun fantasies about putting gasoline into people's air pipes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, he wants to murder...
Like, yeah, I get it.
That's fine.
But, like, okay, here's the problem I have with his reasoning here.
Okay, so people are like, ah, we're gonna get his stuff.
We're talking post-apocalypse, right?
Everything's gone down.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Regular people are, like, banding together.
dan friesen
Collapses come.
jordan holmes
Raiders, there's scars on eyes.
dan friesen
Billionaires are down in the hole.
jordan holmes
The whole thing, right?
Okay, so they go down, they do the thing, they're like, ah, I listened to the worst before the end.
I know, we just poured gasoline down the air holes.
Boom.
Get them out of there.
Then they move in.
Problem here then becomes, what about the next group of raiders?
Walks on by.
They see the guys down there like, oh, you poured the gaslighter.
And then they move in.
What happens when the next group of raiders walks by?
Do you understand?
dan friesen
It disincentivizes anyone going in a bunker.
jordan holmes
I don't think you should go into a bunker.
dan friesen
I might...
I don't know.
I don't have bunker thoughts.
I don't...
I think it's a strange preoccupation that Alex has.
But, you know, maybe so do billionaires.
jordan holmes
That is a great...
That should be on most psychological intake forms.
dan friesen
Do you have bunker thoughts?
unidentified
Do you have bunker thoughts?
dan friesen
It's a sign of something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
So, Alex posted a video about Building 7. Sure.
And some people had a response to it.
And so he talks about...
He's not very happy about their response.
alex jones
You guys remember, a lot of the public is still asleep.
So I reposted yesterday Building 7 video and Larry Silverstein saying he blew it up.
And people said, we already know this.
You already know it.
Other people don't already know this.
Or people say, well, why are you just now covering this?
I covered it the day it happened.
I made five films and wrote multiple books on it.
And had done thousands of interviews on it and been to New York dozens of times, interviewed firefighters and police and whistleblowers and Barry Jennings that they killed right after he was on the show.
I mean, I just love how so many people get catty about information they know, thinking other people must know it, and then saying, why are you repeating old information?
What is old is new.
Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
And that's where we are, as a civilization and as a society.
dan friesen
So these last two clips, both this one and the one about Zuckerberg, are spurred on by people's reactions to things he's posted on social media.
A fair amount of this show seems to be like, what posts of mine were a hit?
Hey, you guys don't get what I'm doing on social media.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a strange, sad...
Picture.
jordan holmes
There is that, like, internet social media fight brain, you know, that is, like, and you think it's just shitheads, but it infects everybody's writing.
Like, it's so bad, like, that...
It's preemptive.
I'm waiting.
Like, there are some times, I've read so many books now, where it's like, you can hear a journalist wince before they write something.
They're like, I hope they don't yell at me for this.
And you're like, this is not good.
You guys gotta get offline.
We gotta get offline.
dan friesen
It seems like Alex has, you know, it's taken over.
I mean, I think that he's just become, like I said, this show's just become Twitter.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he has become Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I am become Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and that's, and it's even so much like...
He's adopted the feeling of irrelevance of a social media platform for his own as an identity.
unidentified
Why don't the kids think I'm still important?
dan friesen
Right.
Do they think I don't know about Building 7?
jordan holmes
What is this?
What are you on, TikTok?
dan friesen
I am old school.
I am a 9-11 hipster.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's all just go.
dan friesen
So we're going to listen to a Greg Reese report.
Okay.
And I generally ignore Alex's underlings and their dumb shit that they put out.
But this time, I paid a little bit more attention because Alex prefaced this one by saying he was almost apologetic about it.
There was almost like a feeling of, I'm going to play this and then I'm going to talk about it, kind of thing.
And I was like, alright, I'll listen to this.
And then as I was listening, I was like, well, my god.
So here's where it starts.
unidentified
Okay.
greg reese
When Netanyahu demanded that the protests against Israel be stopped, the U.S. government complied because our members of Congress have all been bought and paid for with tax dollars given to the American Israeli Political Action Committee, known as AIPAC.
AIPAC openly brags about this on their official website because they don't have to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, which requires agents of foreign principles to register and provide transparency.
Beginning in 1962, they were known as the American Zionist Council, and President John F. Kennedy was ordering them to register as a foreign agent.
john bound
Along with members of the U.S. government, the Zionists fought against this.
In October of 1963, forms were prepared for them to register.
greg reese
But the next month, JFK was assassinated, and Israel has never been asked to register since.
dan friesen
Holy shit!
So the premise off the bat of this Gregory's video seems to be that the Zionists are in control of our government, or we have a Zionist-occupied government, a Zog, and that the Kennedy assassination just might have been done so AIPAC didn't have to register as a foreign agent.
unidentified
Seems that way.
dan friesen
So while it is fair to have criticisms about AIPAC's influence in politics, just as it is of any lobbying group, to have criticisms of it, this is a bit over the top.
This is a bit much.
And it gets worse.
jordan holmes
I was expecting it to be reserved from here on out.
I didn't expect Israel killed JFK to be the start point.
dan friesen
That's where we start.
But it gets weirder, too.
I did not expect where this was going to end up going.
greg reese
On the day of 9-11...
john bound
Five Israelis, who were seen photographing the collapse of the Twin Towers and celebrating, were arrested and detained for several weeks.
greg reese
In documents later released by FOIA requests, the FBI redacted their faces in pictures where they were posing in front of the burning towers and described them as being happy and jovial.
john bound
One of them stated, Israel now has hope that the world will understand us.
The end of the declassified document asks if they had foreknowledge of the event and were there to film it, and the answer was redacted.
dan friesen
So there were five Israeli men who were arrested on 9-11 because someone saw them filming and called the police, but investigation cleared them of having any foreknowledge of the attack.
The same report Greg is using here says that one of the men didn't learn the planes had hit the buildings until he saw it on TV in his jail cell that evening.
Greg also mysteriously ignores the part where they say they, quote, found no basis to even remotely suggest Redacted was in possession of prior knowledge relating to the attacks on the World Trade Center of 9-11.
Also, not for nothing, but Greg is using some selective quoting here that's really fascinating.
He says that one of the men said, quote, Israel now has hope that the world will now understand us.
And that does appear in this report.
However, the rest of his statement was, quote, Americans are naive and America is easy to get inside.
There are not a lot of checks in America, and now America will be tougher about who gets into their country.
When he referenced the world understanding, he was justifying harsher border policies, which Alex and Infowars are in strong agreement with.
Greg only uses this quote because there's the implication that it's supposed to be that this guy is implying that he has foreknowledge of this attack, as opposed to him expressing a sentiment that would be right at home on this very show.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I just feel like listening to this, like...
If I am on a team and I look around and the people on that team don't seem to know that I'm on that team, maybe I shouldn't be on that team.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, why are you talking shit on APAC, man?
Greg, listen, APAC's on your team.
Don't fuck with me.
dan friesen
So, Greg talks more about these five people who were arrested.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
john bound
The end of the declassified document asks if they had foreknowledge of the event and were there to film it, and the answer was redacted.
As soon as they were released, they returned to Israel and went on television, where they confirmed that the answer was yes.
unidentified
The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily.
jordan holmes
Our purpose was to document the event.
dan friesen
Sounds a very motivated interpretation of what that guy was saying.
jordan holmes
Does seem that way.
dan friesen
His comment does not imply foreknowledge at all unless you really want it to, and Greg really wants it to.
Also, I noticed that a large amount of the B-roll and little clips like this don't come from their actual full source, which is to say that Greg didn't pull this from an Israeli TV show.
This is one of the clips that's frequently on YouTube and videos argue that Israel did 9-11, and Greg is just kind of cribbing from those, or more likely Alex's documentary Fabled Enemies.
A lot of this footage is just repackaged from Alex's old documentaries.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is...
That's sad.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That happens to so much of the...
That's just one of those quick things that people do.
Like that shortcut of, well, I don't have to go to the original source because I'm really taking this...
dan friesen
Well, it's the same thing with Alex and his CIA thing that was all just taken from Jesse Waters' report from a year ago.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's just a remix.
jordan holmes
It's like, yeah, I'm not reporting on an event.
I'm reporting on someone else having reported on this event.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And I'm not interested in the event.
I'm interested in their...
Like, it's so...
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not really.
Not really all that interested.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So not only was there five Israeli dudes who were arrested on 9-11, this shit goes much deeper.
greg reese
The dancing Israelis had fake student IDs, and several accounts of suspicious Israeli art students were reported to be infiltrating government buildings.
Over a hundred of these Israeli art students were arrested.
Fox News reported that these art students served in military intelligence and explosive ordinance units.
unidentified
The majority of those questioned, quote, stated they served in military intelligence, electronic surveillance intercept, and or explosive ordinance units.
greg reese
In March of 2000, several of these Mossad art students were living in the World Trade Center as part of the Worldview's Artist-in-Residence program.
They occupied floors 90 and 91, where walls were unfinished and structural beams were exposed.
dan friesen
Okay, so the idea that there were a bunch of Israeli spies pretending to be art students is understood with hindsight and investigation to be a bit of an urban myth.
There was a shoddy, unsourced reporting based on rumor, like what Greg's playing in that last clip, which was combined with the unrelated reality that some Israeli students had been deported for visa violations, and that turned into this notion of like a hundred secret spy art students that had been arrested.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So that's the conflagration that leads to this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Greg asserts that some of these Mossad art students were living at the World Trade Center because of the Worldviews Artist-in-Residence Program.
As evidence of this, he flashes on screen a shot that establishes that this Artist-in-Residence Program exists.
That's not controversial.
Since 1969, the Port Authority has placed an emphasis on art, and in 1997, they began giving artists space on the 91st and 92nd floor of the North Tower through the Worldviews.
Great.
unidentified
Proving that exists doesn't prove that there were Mossad art student spies living there, which is the leap that Greg seems to have made, but not substantiated or really earned in any way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'll throw this out at you as well.
Let's wrap in earlier stuff, bring it to the forefront.
Only an idiot spy would tell you that they were a former Mossad agent in explosive ordinance.
I'm just going to throw that out there.
That's Alex's point.
dan friesen
He made it earlier.
jordan holmes
He made it earlier.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's more to this.
You just keep peeling the layers back.
john bound
A member of this group of artists, Hanan Sarfati, was arrested by the DEA as part of the Israeli ring.
unidentified
But the identities of an additional 14 Israelis who were with him have never been released to the public.
john bound
These Israeli artists were sharing the space with a group of Austrian Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Greg is mixing up his conspiracies here.
Anand Sephardi was a guy who was supposed to have lived close to Mohammed Atta in Hollywood, which was evidence that these art students were actually spies following the hijackers around.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Not that he lived in the World Trade Center.
Some conspiracy posts have conflated this over the years, so I think that's what is happening here.
The only evidence he shows for any of this is a Freedom of Information Act request that someone sent the CIA in 2007.
Not the response to that request.
Just the request.
It looks like an official document and says, quote, Israeli art student spy ring, though, so it can be kind of passed off as proof of something.
jordan holmes
That's pretty...
I mean, I bet the person writing Israeli art student spy ring thought that is a very specific grouping of words.
But I have to tell you this.
I feel like that's way too vague.
That could be anybody.
dan friesen
I guess that's kind of Greg's point.
Maybe.
Or at least what he's banking on.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
So the claim that Hanan was arrested, but that there were 14 other Israelis whose names have never been released to the public is something that I can only find cited.
One of the only places I found it was a Reddit comment from 14 years ago.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which cites a website called coreofcorruption.com.
Unsurprisingly, that site's no longer online, but it was the home of a 9-11 conspiracy film made by a guy named Jonathan Elinoff, which also includes a lot of the footage that...
Greg is using in this report that's also in Alex's documentary.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I don't know if maybe that's the source that he's cribbing a lot of this from or if it is Alex's documentary.
I'm not sure.
But a lot of this is just rehashed bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I do think about that, I don't know if you saw it, but there's that H-Bomber guy video on plagiarism that's like eight and a half hours long or whatever.
dan friesen
I've heard.
jordan holmes
And it is really so great at pointing out one thing over and over and over again, is that maliciousness is not the main driver here.
It is laziness.
It is just so easy to go grab somebody else's work, put it on there, do a little, and that's what's crazy about it.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
And move on, you know?
That's what, that's like this whole like, oh yeah, I'm just gonna grab the, they already did the work looking into stuff, editing the video from the original thing.
I'll just grab that video.
dan friesen
And then I'll make something about how the secretly Israeli art students did 9-11 or some shit.
jordan holmes
Two seconds.
john bound
I'm out.
jordan holmes
Boom.
dan friesen
Next.
So there were these unnamed and unsubstantiated on Greg's part in any way, these Mossad art students who were secretly spying and living in the World Trade Center.
And then there was also another group called Gelatin.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm interested in Gelatin.
unidentified
I want to hear more about that.
dan friesen
You're going to hear a little bit more about that.
Okay.
unidentified
They were doing an art installation.
john bound
These Israeli artists were sharing the space with a group of Austrian artists known as Gelatin, who were working on a project called The Bee Thing that involved removing windows on the 91st floor of the North Tower.
greg reese
A small balcony was constructed for people to stand on while photographs were taken by a helicopter.
john bound
Another group called E-Team managed the helicopter with the designation number N666LH.
greg reese
This helicopter was to be in an art exhibit memorializing this project scheduled for September 11, 2001.
jordan holmes
No, get out of here!
dan friesen
So, the B-Team, or the B-Thing is real, like it was a balcony thing.
john bound
Yeah, the balcony thing!
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
But it was an art installment where you could walk out, or they had people walking out, Yeah.
in a tiny little balcony off I think that you could say that it's a coincidence that their art project thing was going to be released on September 11th.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say that's a coincidence.
dan friesen
Yeah, it certainly doesn't rise to the level of proof of anything.
jordan holmes
I mean, at a certain point, you're just going to say...
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, it's like...
jordan holmes
Okay, just give me a list of all the planned events from everywhere for any reason on September 11th.
Any event that was planned more than six months in advance.
And you can be like, yep, that was them.
That was them.
That was them.
No, this wedding that they planned at that place?
No, no, no, no, no.
That was Masad.
unidentified
Boom.
dan friesen
I get the idea that you're saying it could be beyond coincidence that it was an art thing that had to do with something that involved the World Trade Center.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I get that.
But I just reject the conclusion.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that it is within the realm of coincidence.
jordan holmes
Wait, me?
dan friesen
No, him.
jordan holmes
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's totally within the realm of coincidence.
dan friesen
So they had the people who could go out on the balcony.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then they had the helicopters.
The E-Team.
jordan holmes
The E-Team.
dan friesen
And we're talking a little bit more about- They hate it when a plan comes together.
They do.
greg reese
In March of 2001, E-Team had an art project called 127 Windows.
john bound
Officially, they were going to write their name on the exterior of the tower.
They had an artist's rendering of what the project was supposed to look like, but it never appears to have happened.
And on 9/11, American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into the exact spot where they were supposedly preparing to do this.
dan friesen
The implication of what Greg's saying is pretty obvious, which is that the art project this E-team was working on was no art project, but connected to preparing for the plane to hit those exact floors, probably by putting demolition stuff and explosives in there and shit like that.
The evidence that Greg shows on screen is what appears to be a word doc with the top line, quote, The headline says, quote, the E-team, parentheses, explosives team, question mark.
jordan holmes
Ooh, I like that.
dan friesen
Yeah, given tower access.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This appears to be copy and pasted from a blog or email, and I have no idea what it's even pretending to prove, but it doesn't prove anything.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I like explosives teams.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's a fucking smoking gun right there.
Any word that starts with E, explosives, that's the worst one to have.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Boom.
So wait, so...
dan friesen
The connective tissue here is a little bit strange.
jordan holmes
I actually don't know what the connective tissue is, other than just, like, they were nearby.
dan friesen
He's asserted without evidence that there were these secret Mossad art students who were in the World Trade Center.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Also at the World Trade Center was this other group called Gelatin.
jordan holmes
Right, Austrian.
dan friesen
Yes, who did the balcony thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then attached to them was this E-team that did the helicopter.
jordan holmes
They were doing the helicopter thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Question mark?
unidentified
I don't know.
This is grasping at straws.
jordan holmes
I don't understand if there's even, like, they may have done a thing, or if it's just like, isn't it weird these people were there?
I bet that's suspicious.
dan friesen
I think that's what you call hiding behind the isn't it weird?
jordan holmes
It does feel a little bit weird.
dan friesen
Hiding behind the implication of the nonsense that you're saying?
jordan holmes
I mean, it is a little bit like, listen, man, I'm all about, you know, hey, could be this world is crazy.
But if you're telling me that the Austrian art collective gelatin is the reason 9-11 happened, I'm out.
I'm out.
Even if you're right, I'm out.
I don't want to live in that world.
dan friesen
Well, let's let Greg wrap up and see if your feelings stay the same.
jordan holmes
Sounds good.
john bound
In 2001, Gelatin published a book on the project and described it as conspiratorial work.
greg reese
It includes a drawing of someone falling headfirst from the 91st floor with the words, 300 meters of pure pleasure.
john bound
Gelatin was originally spelled the same as the explosive, but was officially changed in 2005.
And the 9-11 Commission report does not mention gelatin, E-Team, or any of the Israeli Mossad art students.
Reporting for InfoWars, this is Greg Reese.
dan friesen
It was also spelled like the food.
unidentified
Gelatin.
dan friesen
So Greg has wallowed around in old Israel, did 9-11 conspiracy lore, and come off like a big dum-dum, but he really hasn't demonstrated anything in this report at all.
And the title of this video is, quote, The Zionist Death Grip on the United States Government.
That is absolutely not a title that this thing justifies.
And honestly, it's shameful work.
This is...
Garbage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a title that expects me not to even click on the video.
dan friesen
Well, that's a title.
Well, here's the thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a title that expects certain people to click on it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Or get certain people to talk about it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know?
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
I don't need to finish this.
I don't have time.
This is like five minutes.
Nobody makes it to the five minutes.
I listen to the first minute.
dan friesen
Wait, is this about gelatin?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I've been talking about gelatin for years.
Is this about an Austrian art group doing 9-11?
Okay, man.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
So, again, I only listened to it because Alex introduced it as almost like an apologetic thing, like I said.
jordan holmes
I'm a little...
I would be apologetic if I just played it.
dan friesen
Right.
And so here, Alex comes back, and here's what he has to say.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now, I want to be 100% clear where I stand on all this.
I produced multiple films with Jason Bermas 14, 15, 16 years ago.
It was over several years.
Like Fabled Enemies and others, exposing the different intelligence agencies and the things they'd done.
And Fabled Enemies itself was about Israel and the bad things that Israel's been caught doing that I stand against.
And when Reese put that report out, and I boosted it and played it, people said, oh, what's Jones doing?
Oh, he finally loves Hitler now and hates all the Jews.
He's with us now.
And I don't agree with that group.
And I don't agree with people saying they should carry out genocide against the Muslims and Palestinians in Israel.
And I'm trying to expose the evil that different agencies and groups and governments do and trying to separate the people of those nations out and put out the truth and put out the research so everybody's aware and then you can make decisions about what you're going to do about it.
dan friesen
I feel like Alex put himself in a bad position here.
Greg's video was literally all about how Israel secretly did 9-11 through a network of secret artist student spies.
So when he plays it, he really needs to have an opinion.
Alex's career is based on 9-11 conspiracism, so he should either agree with Reese's absurd shit or be forced to say that he keeps a guy on the payroll who makes absurd shit that he doesn't agree with and believes to be false because that guy gets views.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he gets views because he titles a video like that The Zionist Death Grip on the United States Government.
It's meant to be clickbait for bigots, and everyone should be able to see that for what it is.
Right, right, okay.
about people responding to the shit that he does on social media and him needing to respond to their response.
It's fucking insane.
Also, Fabled Enemies Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would say that if I'm Alex, I am hitting what I should have seen coming decades ago, which is I tried to create the 9-11 as an inside job as the JFK was killed kind of thing.
You know, like, this is a fixed point in history.
It's not going to be a fixed point in history.
So sooner or later, you're going to watch everything that you built and everything that you did everything is going to crumble in front of your eyes as people who thought they liked you are going to go, you're wrong about everything.
dan friesen
Or you made a brand off of this and one of the things that kind of allowed the brand to grow was, you know, there are people who are like...
I think the planes were remote controlled.
And you said, you know, there's a lot of reasons to believe that.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
And then there's other people who are like, I think it was a missile.
You know, there's a lot of reasons to believe that.
You know, that's kind of the big tent of bullshit.
unidentified
Big tent bullshit.
Exactly.
dan friesen
And that kind of catches up eventually.
jordan holmes
Sooner or later.
dan friesen
And now you've got a very popular reporter who's doing that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, and then at the...
Boy, if you're just throwing out there that Israel owns the government...
I think you're saying a lot more than you think you are.
dan friesen
I think Greg might be wanting to say that.
jordan holmes
I mean, he did, didn't he?
dan friesen
So, when Alex talks about the campus protests, obviously those are like Hamas shit, whatever.
And so when he talks about this not being on the side of Israeli government, not being on the side of people who hate Israel or anything, It really is just thin and always comes back to a sense of xenophobia and a hatred of immigrants.
alex jones
And they're bringing in all these different groups so no one can communicate with each other, and now it's official today.
Associated Press reports Biden is planning to bring the, quote, Palestinian refugees to America.
and they built a big bridge.
And two months ago, the Netanyahu memo came out where they're going to dump people they say are too dangerous to be in Israel who are all pissed off and have their families killed in America where they'll then be organized and instead of having, you know, 15 Islamic extremists in Congress will have 30. They'll bring millions of them here to get more congressional districts and then run around and bitch and complain and have this weird amalgamation of Islam with communism.
Works for me.
Then we'll lose our rights if there's more and more terror and more and more violence.
It's a disgusting show.
I'm going to say it again.
I don't like what Israel's doing, and I don't like what the Muslims are doing.
Can't you understand when someone says, I don't like either side?
dan friesen
Yeah, I get you.
I get what you're saying.
I think it's pretty clear.
Also, there was just something that flashed in front of my eyes, and that was Alex in 2003 saying the Ba 'ath Party is being put back in power.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep, here we are.
The fucking prophecy has come true.
dan friesen
So it's all just about, like, I don't want immigrants coming here.
I don't want refugees coming here.
That is where the center of his feelings are.
So yeah, he has to pretend that there's a vision of unity that he has.
That is what he's actually espousing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let me hear this all-white, all-Protestant Christian vision of unity we're hearing about.
alex jones
The majority of people, no matter what color you are, what your religion is, don't you feel the same?
I mean, don't you want to be above all this and not try to have people force you into their group?
jordan holmes
Don't you want to be white?
alex jones
I said October 7th was wrong and barbarous and evil.
And also said Israel obviously stood down and should be investigated.
But then Yahoo doesn't want that.
He says, oh, after the war is over, well, it's never going to end.
And then also don't support Soros and the communists and Antivout bombing and shooting and burning and...
Burning down billions of dollars of stuff years ago and doing it again, and then provocateur-ing stuff, and then the police stand back, and a big fight starts between the Zionists and the Hamas people, and then it just raises the whole temperature of the country, and I'm sitting back watching it happen.
Guys, get me the clip from Russia With Love, Siamese Fighting Fish.
I've played it probably 100 times in the last 25 years we've been simulcasting video.
I'm going to air it again.
dan friesen
It all comes back to a little scene from the movie that really tells you everything you need to know.
So yeah, I mean, I guess there's just no authentic, you know, people protesting aren't really protesting.
It's all Soros and the, you know.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't feel like he has a real vision of unity.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know if people are real to him.
Like, can people even have a self-generated motive?
dan friesen
Only if they happen to coincide with what he likes and what he believes.
jordan holmes
Like, the idea, like, that's a thought that I haven't even really had.
dan friesen
Well, there's no agency outside of Patriot.
Because everything else is, like, demonic.
You're possessed.
jordan holmes
But, like, period.
Like, can you be like, oh, I just, I like...
This movie because of me.
Only.
I don't like this movie because I'm told.
I don't like this movie to fit in.
I don't like this movie because it was a psycho attack.
dan friesen
I will answer this as myself.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then as Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
As myself.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You can.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
As Alex.
unidentified
No.
Damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't think so.
So, look, the issue is that we're all distracted by...
jordan holmes
Because we can't have a self-generated thought!
dan friesen
Yeah, unless it's a self-generated thought that matches up with, like, Alex's stuff.
It really helps.
Like, hey, you know what?
You should be complaining about anti-vex bullshit.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
I don't see really any...
I see camps.
Balkanization, divide and conquer, the broken coalition strategy that Clintons talked about when they were first running for office.
And that's what they've done, where we're all these little groups, and all we know is the ideology of that group instead of...
We're being hit with injections that cause an 80% on average worldwide miscarriage rate.
I mean, we should be unified against that and talk about the 22 million dead.
And I put post on X, I've said, we should talk about the 22 million dead and growing from the poison shots, now they're preparing a new virus, a new rollout, according to all the information we have.
And I literally get...
People saying, you're a Muslim liberal communist now because you don't think we should kill everybody in Gaza.
And then I'll get other people saying, oh...
You're trying to distract away from the Zionist crimes because you're talking about the COVID shot.
Like, what the hell are you talking about?
dan friesen
So Alex's MO is basically just saying, I think everyone should be talking about what I care about.
And I think it's basically what you're saying.
Like, if it's not the thing that is important to me, you can't possibly think it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It has the strong energy of someone who steadfastly refuses to listen.
unidentified
That's the big vibe that you get.
jordan holmes
We need to come together to do the thing I want to do.
I will never come together to do what someone else wants to do, which means you will never come together.
So, yeah, what are we doing?
dan friesen
I mean, it's what you see whenever, like, I mentioned, I think, on our last episode, like, when Owen Troyer went out to the UT protest that was going on, and it was just basically like, you should be talking about the things that I think, you should be, you know, hey, you're all distracted by caring about the thing that you care about, when what you really actually care about is my thing.
Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's a tie.
jordan holmes
It is just, if you are a person who is saying, we need to unify around blank, then you need to go somewhere where people are already unified and join them.
dan friesen
Also, again, he's complaining about people's responses to him on Twitter, which is getting fucking maddening, and also is indicative of the audience that he has attracted for himself.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So stop complaining and maybe realize that you're an equation in the...
You're a piece of this equation.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That sucks that you would feel so terrible about the only thing that you do.
All the time.
And that's it.
dan friesen
There is a...
Real need to shut the fuck up about Twitter.
jordan holmes
It makes me feel bad when people respond to me.
However, my job is to force people to respond with as much emotion as they possibly can.
dan friesen
Usually by being full of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, there's a little bit of hope on the horizon.
unidentified
Also...
alex jones
Infowars could be shut down within a matter of months.
And...
There's a lot of fluid things happening behind the scenes.
There's a good chance we'll continue on.
But I am not allowed to get into mediations and meetings and things that have happened in sealed court hearings yet.
And, you know, I've agreed to that.
That's how mediations work.
But I'll just tell you this.
Nobody's going to control what I say and do.
So, if that's the case, InfoWars is going away.
Now, they won't stop me.
I'll be right back on air.
And I'll try to hire back the crew or get people that I'll be working for to do that.
But I'd say 50% chance InfoWars is shut down in two months.
All right?
And I've always told you I'll be honest with you about that.
Now, if you order products now at InfoWars, you will get them.
They're all in stock.
They ship within a day.
It's usually the same day.
dan friesen
Don't let our possible 50-50 going away thing dissuade you from buying stuff.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
Pretty good.
jordan holmes
That is...
unidentified
You know...
jordan holmes
I was living in Logan Square, probably around 2011, like early 10s kind of thing, you know?
And I was walking up and down Milwaukee, right as that kind of area where there was all those stores that were going out of business right next to places that were just, you know, brand new, that kind of thing.
And I at no point in time saw like a maybe we're going out of business sale.
I did not see one of those at all.
dan friesen
Shit's weird.
jordan holmes
No, like this mattress is 50% off right now.
But if we are doing fine in 15 minutes, that mattress is full price!
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
It is weird.
dan friesen
So Alex is continuing this, maybe we'll go, maybe we won't.
It's a very strange space to be in, but of course you still go to bullshit.
And if I've ever heard a sales pitch for a product, it is this sales pitch for Nitric Boost.
alex jones
Everybody should be taking Nitric Boost.
I take one capsule a day, and it just does so much to my stamina, my energy, and quite frankly, my libido.
Everything it does cleans out your blood.
It's something everybody should be on.
I knew it was a great product.
We never really promoted it, though.
It came out three years ago.
And then it just became super popular.
It's like our second best seller now because it works so well.
And men immediately discover, almost all men, even if you don't have an issue in the male department, you notice, wow, I haven't had a hard-on that hurts since I was 20. Well...
If I take two nitric boosts, then you have the...
We're adults here, folks.
jordan holmes
No, we're not.
That's the show.
alex jones
This is radio.
Come on.
Just show them what does the rest of your body.
Painful erections.
Okay?
Only take one.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
And that's not what it's even designed for, but that's what it does to your cardiovascular system.
Does that give you a little idea?
How powerful it is.
dan friesen
I got an idea.
We've gone from, this is a family show, children use this for homeschooling curriculum, to, I gotta talk about my painful erections that my nitric boost will give you.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
Oh, what a journey.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna tell you something.
I think that gelatin, the Austrian folk, being planning stuff on 9-11, coincidence.
I do not believe it is a coincidence that the audience of Alex Jones, a hyper male presenting obsessed with power guy, are made up of a lot of people who send Alex notes saying, it's the first time I've had an erection in a long time.
dan friesen
It hurts.
jordan holmes
I'm just throwing that out there.
I'm just throwing that not a coincidence.
dan friesen
This is also not a good sales pitch.
jordan holmes
Your dick might fall off.
Seriously.
Your skin is not meant to get this stretched out.
You need to moisturize.
dan friesen
One of the things that is just running through this show that I'm not playing a ton of is constant hyping of the James O 'Keefe video.
As much as he can to be the street team to get this out there.
And that leads to they do a Twitter space.
Not the one that he's promoting that is going to be with James O 'Keefe.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is just on the show they go to do a Twitter space.
jordan holmes
We're pre-gaming the Twitter space.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Chase Geyser is there.
jordan holmes
Of course he is.
dan friesen
And man.
This just turns into a shitheads from Twitter fest.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
The coup shaman shows up.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Liz Churchill is back.
Dom Lucra is there.
It's just like right-wing ding-dong influencers are like, hey, I can get the word out.
It's brand promotion and shit for these people now.
In the way that, like, it's just incorporating.
Twitter and Infowars are becoming the same.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it feels like a hobo fire.
It feels like a gigantic barrel has a fire in it and then a bunch of terrible smelling people keep coming up close to it and being like, hey, is Alex nearby?
dan friesen
Well, they can get some light and heat from it in the same way that these people can get a little bit of promotion for their monetized Twitter accounts.
jordan holmes
I think that's fair!
dan friesen
Yep.
So anyway, we're not going to listen to much of that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
If any, really.
But here's Chase and Alex talking about the James O 'Keefe report.
alex jones
This is coming out in four and a half hours or less.
And so four hours, 20 minutes from now.
And so we're going to be covering and I'll be on the show with him.
But I can tell you, he told me like at 6 a.m.
I'm going to see this video.
And then I didn't get it until about 45 minutes for the show.
And I'm usually totally focused on the broadcast for that, but I'm not in my office watching this, and I'm just like, oh my God.
I mean, this is...
I was thinking about how much danger he's in.
I was thinking about how we had to make sure this goes really viral.
I mean, this is crazy.
chase geiser
I can't wait to see it.
Is there anything else you can disclose about it?
Obviously, it's his story, and we don't want to beat him to the punch with it, but is it anything that you didn't already know?
alex jones
Where's my cell phone?
Did it fall on the ground or something?
We'll find it.
It doesn't matter.
Oh, here it is.
It's all right here.
It's a long report, too.
chase geiser
Is there anything you didn't already know?
alex jones
It just confirms what we knew, and it shows the arrogance.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
So it's the biggest thing that's ever happened, the biggest story of James O 'Keefe's career, but it is also...
We already kind of knew all this.
It just confirms stuff we already knew.
Weird.
jordan holmes
That is...
That is worse than telling me that my dick's gonna fall off if I take this bill.
That is not a good salesman.
dan friesen
It's strange.
jordan holmes
Do you need this?
No!
Not even a little bit.
Completely extraneous.
Not helpful.
We've already proved it.
dan friesen
Because Alex can't really make his own reporting and the information from Infowars subservient to or lesser than the stuff that James O 'Keefe is putting out.
So it's the biggest bombshell in the world, but it is also stuff that we've all reported already.
jordan holmes
I mean, at the very least, say he's got a scoop.
Give him a taste, you know?
Listen, it's the Fortune 500.
It doesn't have to be the Fortune 100.
dan friesen
It is the biggest scoop, and also not at the same time, because both are useful.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
So Chase, he wants victory in his lifetime.
Victory over what?
The globalists.
unidentified
Okay.
chase geiser
I just hope that I can see this victory in my lifetime, and it's not going to be two or three generations from now after.
Suffering the likeness of which the world has never seen.
alex jones
And that's beautifully said, and here's the bottom line.
jordan holmes
Beautifully said.
alex jones
No one intellectually can look at where we're at and not say this is the worst form of tyranny I've ever seen.
If it continues, it leads to hell we've never seen.
There's no doubt now, folks, this is as bad as it can get.
So, the only thing we got to do is admit it.
Put the Declaration of Independence back up.
Great job pulling it up.
As the Declaration of Independence made clear, the long trend of abuses and usurpations and the tyranny exhibited over these states forced the columnists to alter their former system of government.
In such circumstances, Jefferson explained that it is the people's right and their duty to overthrow in response.
dan friesen
You're reading a website about the Declaration of Independence while pretending to quote the Declaration of Independence.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sweet.
dan friesen
So you had the worst tyranny ever.
I think there's a lot of people who would beg to differ.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think...
I don't know.
I think any Japanese person over the age of 90 probably thinks that tyranny has gotten a lot worse, or tyranny has been worse in the past.
dan friesen
I think a lot of folks.
I think Alex might be a bit in his own...
Could be.
jordan holmes
Could be very self, you know.
dan friesen
So I find Chase Geyser to suck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I agree.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons is well embodied in this next clip.
chase geiser
Well, I will say too, Alex, sometimes when I'm having a hard time falling asleep and I don't want to listen to a podcast, what I'll do is I'll go back and listen to the Alex Jones show on this day 10 years ago or on this day 20 years ago because every once in a while I find an amazing clip of something you predicted that's happening now.
Last week was the Ukraine stuff.
And I've noticed that you have gotten...
You're in your prime right now, on air.
Are you fucking with me?
I don't give a damn about that.
You know me well enough.
No, I don't give a damn.
But you really have matured a lot.
There's some shows that I've listened to from 10 years or 20 years ago.
They all have brilliant moments in them.
But it's like, oh man, he'd be so mad if I covered it that way now.
When I listen to it, now you've just graduated to this level where you're professional league, man.
alex jones
But I'm trying.
dan friesen
That was...
All over the place.
First of all, I mean, obviously, what Jace is expressing is it's fun to go hunt for gems that I can take out of context and ignore all the crazy dumb shit you say in order to blow people's minds with what appears to be a prediction because that's really lucrative and, you know, that's fun.
But in order to compliment Alex in the present, he has to be like, you sucked before, man.
Your shows were inconsistent.
Which is kind of true.
jordan holmes
Such a weird, not a compliment, sycophant.
We've known some people who've become moderately famous, but I know there are people who are so famous that people never tell them the truth.
That they just never hear anything remotely resembling what real life is like.
That must be...
That sounds like something they would hear.
dan friesen
It does.
It does, kind of.
jordan holmes
Like, that's not even remotely close to reality.
dan friesen
As somebody who listens to a number of Alex's old episodes, I find it insane.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But the other thing, too, is that, like, I kind of understand Alex's position.
You know, he's built this thing over all this time.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's incredibly lucrative for him.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, he has this as his...
He's the one talent of the one talent business.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I get why he wouldn't let that facade break.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing for these other people who work for him to pretend.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that level of pretending is...
jordan holmes
It's pathetic.
dan friesen
It's just a little bit glaring.
jordan holmes
I mean, man, that's...
You're in your prime.
dan friesen
He's in his prime.
jordan holmes
Look at the fucking man.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I do think he probably is quitting a little bit less than he did six months or a year ago.
You know, brainstorming off the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If that's the mark of a man in his prime, then hooray.
jordan holmes
Listen.
I think you should celebrate your prime, and it's very important to know when it happened, because when it's over, then you don't have to keep chasing it, if that makes sense.
Do you know what I mean?
My prime passed.
dan friesen
From Alex's response, it doesn't feel like he's chasing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
That is fair.
dan friesen
So we're going to listen to a little bit of one person who calls in on the Twitter space, but not one of these luminaries of the right.
jordan holmes
Not the shaman.
dan friesen
No.
The caller previous to this was telling Alex about an AI that he has that can mimic anybody's voice and say anything.
He can't bring it up and demonstrate it, but he says that you can do this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And this has some implications for...
jordan holmes
That'd be it.
If you will.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's a discussion of whether Adrian Dittman is Elon Musk.
Honestly, when he said he was going to space, I'm like, I only want to hear if you talk to the guy who sounds like Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
That's really the only thing that we're there for, is that you have a weird obsession with talking to somebody just because they could be.
dan friesen
Right.
And you think they are, and you are dead set on insisting that they are.
jordan holmes
It is, imagine, yeah.
dan friesen
And when this guy calls in and is talking about this AI, Alex legitimately, literally says it is either real Elon Musk or a super sophisticated AI.
So Chase does not agree with that.
He thinks that it's a real person.
So anyway, we get to the next caller, who also has some thoughts about Adrian Dittman.
Of course!
jordan holmes
I mean, maybe it's because the only reason that anybody is there at Alex's behest is because Alex sometimes gets to talk to a guy who sounds like he might be Elon Musk.
dan friesen
And they all get to sort of pretend is their proximity to and connection immediately to outsized power.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is like...
A new form of the Emperor has no clothes.
Where it's like, well, why even have the Emperor?
Then we don't even have to deal with the guy who's not wearing clothes!
dan friesen
Well, see, now that's interesting because that kind of touches on what this caller brings up.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
unidentified
And then I just wanted to talk about the Adrian thing real quick, or the Adrian Dedeman thing.
I was around when he first came on and he only had a couple hundred people.
And the thing that I noticed about it, because I've seen this before, is what happened was people started fighting with each other to be close to him, thinking that he was Elon.
So I noticed what was going on around him.
And it caused chaos and confusion.
It really didn't matter whether he was Elon or not Elon.
It showed people, a lot of people, who they were.
And I've seen that tactic before and I didn't like it.
So I just separated myself from it.
I don't like to be confused.
If I'm confused, that is not God.
That is the enemy of the lower power.
When I'm confused, I step away.
dan friesen
That's terrifying.
jordan holmes
Who are you?
What is her story?
dan friesen
I don't know.
That's terrifying as a way to deal with confusion.
But secondarily...
I would say that she should apply her standard of people's true colors showing in their relationship to the person they think is Elon Musk and apply that directly to Alex in Infowars.
jordan holmes
You'd think.
dan friesen
Because it's absurd the amount of bending over backwards to accommodate this weirdo person random that Alex did.
He did a sneak attack on David Icke during the interview.
jordan holmes
This lady had...
I'm speechless.
She's rendered me speechless because all of the things that are implied within what she said are crazy.
But now I can't get out of my head the idea of, like, I want to find her.
I want to sit down right next to her and I want to watch Is It Cake?
I want to marathon Is It Cake?
dan friesen
No, that's not of God.
jordan holmes
It's too confusing.
She might die.
She could die of Is It Cake.
dan friesen
But baked into, pun intended, that is a criticism of Alex that is good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is the jockeying for position with this person that everyone thought is Elon Musk showed people In a way, it showed something about them.
Yeah.
And you should think about that in terms of Alex.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is...
dan friesen
That's all I would say to this lady, because that is an okay thought.
jordan holmes
It's a demonstration of the capability to have a mature understanding of social, like, marais that overwhelm any individual.
You know, like...
dan friesen
Sort of, or at least the appearance of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, it is, like, an awareness of that.
Or she is just...
So confused all the time that she happened to walk away into a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm not sure which.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
But anyway, we got the Q Shaman and all these fucking people.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I was thinking about going over the James O 'Keefe thing, but I don't care.
Yeah.
It's also long and I don't care.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But there is one moment that I have to play for you.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it made my jaw drop and it has nothing to do with the content.
Of the actual Sting interview.
It was a stylistic touch that I found shocking.
unidentified
How did you guys figure out that Trump was colluding with the Russians?
Did you guys use...
Can I say that one more time?
He likes to use what?
What does that mean?
That means a prepaid phone call that's not attached to you.
It's not on the network.
Like a dummy phone?
Like a dumb phone?
Like a flip phone?
james okeefe
I've had it with all my personal and private information being exposed and exploited by big tech and big government, so I'm joining my friend Eric Prince, and I'm switching to my new unplugged phone.
unidentified
Protect your privacy.
james okeefe
Get your very own unplugged phone.
unidentified
Go to unplugged.com.
jordan holmes
No.
That's unplugged.com.
They would not.
That is not possible.
I don't believe it.
unidentified
Was the intel community able to use Pfizer to spy on Trump and his team?
dan friesen
I don't know.
That's remarkable.
Just the smoothest fucking head pivot.
jordan holmes
I'm flabbergasted.
dan friesen
Yes!
jordan holmes
I am 100%.
dan friesen
I saw that and I was like, holy shit.
jordan holmes
That is unreal.
That's unreal!
dan friesen
These guys talking about Trump using burner phones, and then he's like, I've got a phone to sell you!
jordan holmes
Okay, that is more dystopic than anything.
Anything I've ever seen, any corporate intrusion idea I have ever seen is not as dystopic as the guy trying to feed you overthrow the government shit.
Putting an ad in for a burner phone in the middle of overthrowing the government.
dan friesen
Also, a burner phone that's a company that's owned by Eric Prince, no less.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
I don't even...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Imagine George fucking Washington fucking going across that river, stopping being like, hold on, just so you know, I got a new brand of boats coming out before we go.
dan friesen
I mean, it's...
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
It's almost parody level, I think.
jordan holmes
Parody doesn't exist for this.
dan friesen
Sure.
But it is also the same kind of selling strategy that Alex has used historically.
Totally.
Like, that's the ad pivot.
jordan holmes
No, it makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We're talking about how the economy is going to collapse and now I have someone to sell you gold.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like...
jordan holmes
It's that easy.
dan friesen
It's so...
unidentified
Make it, though.
jordan holmes
There's a pandemic.
I'm selling you something that will cure it.
The end, you know?
But to do it in the middle, that's just...
I mean...
dan friesen
It was shocking.
jordan holmes
That is...
Oh, you couldn't have waited?
Why?
Why couldn't you have waited?
Whose choice was it?
dan friesen
Because it's just too perfect.
jordan holmes
It's right there.
unidentified
Who was like...
jordan holmes
Oh, we gotta splice that in.
dan friesen
Oh, you know whose choice it was?
jordan holmes
It's not on the video that they shot!
dan friesen
You know whose choice it was?
James O. fucking Keith.
Yeah.
Because he's running everything.
jordan holmes
Or Eric Prince's.
dan friesen
Well, I'm sure they collaborated on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's an interesting thing for me.
I don't understand how you don't hear, oh, Eric Prince sponsored this video.
Okay, well then I'm out.
Right?
dan friesen
Eric Prince sponsored this video in such a way as to make a jarring commercial in the middle of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
One that tonally confuses.
jordan holmes
That can't be overlooked.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people overlooked it.
jordan holmes
That's unreal.
Yeah.
See, here's what I've been suspecting for a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I have been suspecting that, you know, when we talked early on, I was like, oh, Dan, you're the only person who listens to Alex Jones.
You're the only one who actually listens.
I think that this is now true for all things.
I don't think anybody watches anything anymore.
I don't know if anybody knows what they're fucking talking about ever.
unidentified
I think people are just guessing and then going off the shit.
dan friesen
That guy who made the...
I don't remember who it was, but someone...
I think it was the guy who was talking about the AI, or it might have been someone else who called into the space, was talking about how we should be careful to not assume that all of these numbers that we see on Twitter, like there's...
Tens of thousands of viewers or whatever.
A lot of that could be bots.
We have no idea what that is.
And so I think that fewer people are watching some things than you imagine.
But I don't think it's just...
Obviously it's not just me.
And it's not even close to...
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
It's not even close to no one.
But a lot of the numbers that you see may be absurdly...
jordan holmes
I think it's...
I mean, I don't think it's that.
It's not that I think the numbers are inflated so much as it is.
I think people watch the version of reading the headline of it.
You know, people watch the first 15 seconds, or YouTube even has the most re-watched shit now, so people can just scroll over to that and watch it.
dan friesen
Or you just see the headline, James O 'Keefe exposes CIA coup over America, and you're like, they got him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why even bother?
dan friesen
I've reached my conclusion.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to buy an Eric Prince branded thing, so I don't need to watch the video.
I'm just getting what I want, which is the feeling of being super smart.
dan friesen
Which you don't have to actually have watched it to do.
jordan holmes
I can get that for free.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
The show is bad.
Not a good show.
jordan holmes
I am not going to get over that.
dan friesen
It's hard to get over it.
That's why I had to.
It was either the Painful Erections commercial or that for how do we end the show.
unidentified
As far as two commercials, as far as the difference.
dan friesen
Awful.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Anyway, we're back.
jordan holmes
Wow.
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also not on social media.
jordan holmes
We are not on social media.
dan friesen
So we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
dan friesen
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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