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April 15, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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#918: April 12, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's return to studio to learn a bit more about his plan to sue the CIA and FBI, about how islands are growing, and about Roger Stone's predictions for the 2024 Democratic ticket.

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alex jones
23:33
d
dan friesen
45:36
j
jordan holmes
24:56
r
roger stone
05:55
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norm pattis
00:02
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
roger stone
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot, I was going to just launch into fire.
Finally!
unidentified
Alex Jones has come back to studio!
dan friesen
And that's a tease because The Rock comes up later on the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, The Rock is showing up on the show!
dan friesen
He's not on the show.
He's mentioned on the show.
There's a week and a half of maybe two weeks of Alex being on vacation.
It's tough.
You're supposed to be covering his show and it's just little piecemeal.
Real things here and there.
It's a relief.
That sucks.
jordan holmes
Don't analyze it too much.
Don't deal with that too much.
We are where we are.
Focus and move forward.
dan friesen
I would obviously prefer his show not exist.
It would be a much better world.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But in the position that I'm in, it's nice for him to actually be sitting in the chair.
Yeah.
He's a one-talent business.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
They've testified to that in court.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And when you have a business and a show and it's one talent.
Business.
And that talent is gone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a drag.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Alex is back in studio, so we actually have that to go over on April 12th, his show from Friday.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
Shitty bright spot.
jordan holmes
Shitty bright spot.
What about you?
There's a certain amount of, and I say this because I respect you, you're an honorable man.
All right.
If Alex were to be gone, but InfoWars were to remain.
What are we going to do?
Beat up on Owen Schroyer?
That's unfair!
It's an unfair fight!
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Right?
I don't know if I could...
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
dan friesen
Can't do it.
I don't know if it's honor.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, boredom is also valuable.
dan friesen
That's a big piece of the puzzle.
jordan holmes
A big piece of the puzzle.
But for the sake of fun, let's call the fact that you can only enjoy the fair fight honor.
dan friesen
I guess.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, we talked a little bit about it before, but the show, Fallout, really good.
Really good show.
You know, they get what people like about the games, and then they didn't do that thing where they're like, let's just only make people watch a bad version of the game.
dan friesen
What is it that people like about the games?
jordan holmes
There's a good sense of humor.
Sure.
dan friesen
There's that mascot character.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
There's just the kind of sardonic, tongue-in-cheek viewpoint on the uselessness and hopelessness of humanity's survival.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know, that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's always nice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
People enjoy that.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Then you can, I don't know, adjust your attributes.
dan friesen
Monster bugs?
jordan holmes
Monster bug, yeah.
Cockroaches, they're big.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
People like that, right?
unidentified
They make noises.
jordan holmes
Shoot stuff.
dan friesen
Yep.
Pew, pew, pew, pew.
Depressing vistas of the future.
jordan holmes
Sure, definitely.
The armor, basically.
dan friesen
That's what I was thinking about today.
It's one of the only things that I can remember from the time that I played the game a long time ago.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just the most iconic.
dan friesen
I think is how almost all media...
Comes to me now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The right wing is angry about it.
And then people are like, oh, I like it.
Because if people didn't like it, the right wing wouldn't be angry about it and you wouldn't hear about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not an ideal way to experience the world, but...
Here we are.
jordan holmes
It's a strange window from which to view.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I'm glad you're enjoying the show, though.
That's great.
What, is it one episode out?
jordan holmes
No, the whole series.
Or the whole season.
unidentified
It's good.
jordan holmes
Probably going to get a second season.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
Sweet.
Fallout 2 season.
jordan holmes
That'd be...
To Fallout.
dan friesen
Too fast.
jordan holmes
To Furious.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, like I said, we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about April 12th.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
This is exciting, because Alex is back in studio.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Finally.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
FBI-CIA undercover video has dropped, and of course...
jordan holmes
Everything's gone.
We've finally taken them down.
We're suing them.
We've got everything taken...
dan friesen
There's some developments on that front.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right, all right.
unidentified
Good news.
dan friesen
We'll discuss all that, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Sir Frolics of Babytown, USA.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Matt Z, parentheses, that's a Z as in czar.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And 712, 712, 712, one swamp that won't be drained.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a couple technocrats, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Mouse Man and his two pugs, Birdie and Gene.
And happy 10-year anniversary, Cassie.
I love you.
Here's to many more from Andy.
Possibly in Kansas?
unidentified
Could be.
dan friesen
It doesn't say.
Who knows?
Thank you so much.
You are two new technocrats.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
roger stone
Four stars.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
And just to remember, if you haven't heard your policy wonk shout-out, just send an email.
unidentified
Or you just want one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you just want one, send one.
What am I going to check?
Yeah.
As much as I love people who feel like they need to send proof, I love you for that.
I don't care.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, we start the show off, and Alex is minimizing his own difficulties.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
In favor of, you know, we're going to talk about the big picture.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The world.
jordan holmes
The world.
alex jones
Well, we've survived deep state attacks by the FBI, the CIA.
In coordination with the rest of the deep state, corporate media, PR firms, and Democratic Party law firms.
And it's all coming out in congressional hearings in the last few days.
And more hearings set specifically focusing on the revelations against Infowars.
And you would think that would be our top story today.
We have some big guests joining us to discuss that and so much more.
But we're going to table that for now because the big news is Iran has been working...
Very closely with the Democratic Party for a long time.
But even before that, it's been partially declassified that in the early 1980s, in 1979, 1980, 81, Iran doesn't work for the CIA, but the CIA clearly helped the Ayatollahs take control and take power over the Shah.
And so there's been a lot of cases where there's backroom deals made where Iran will attack at a key point for the deep state for political gain, and then the deep state will not launch.
Massive retaliatory strikes against Iran, and that gives Iran a lot of political power domestically.
And so with all the things happening to Biden and the globalist operations falling apart, they need a big political distraction.
They need an October surprise.
And here we are.
The CIA and the Defense Department are saying they believe in the next 48 hours...
Iran is going to attack Israel directly with its massive arsenal of missiles and other weapons.
Iran is...
Arm to the teeth.
dan friesen
So as of the time I'm preparing this article, nothing has come out regarding that undercover video of the purported CAA guy.
So as far as I'm concerned, the assertion that the attack on Alex and Infowars is all admitted to be deep state stuff is fully unsubstantiated.
unidentified
Yeah, all right.
dan friesen
It's pretty magnanimous of him to put his own trouble to the side to talk about the bigger geopolitical picture.
However, I should tell you that almost this entire show is about how Alex has been wronged.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
He interviews Bobby Barnes and Viva Fry separately, even though their podcast co- Totally.
threw together to try to capitalize on this undercover video, trying to nail down the narrative about his legal trouble.
The bulk of the show is centered around himself, not his bizarre theories about Iran and Israel.
Alex's point that the CIA has meddled in Iran's government is fair enough.
Totally.
unidentified
They admit that they were involved in the 1953 coup, but that doesn't mean that the They're pulling the strings now, 71 years later.
dan friesen
That's just kind of silly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're at least four coups since then.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
A small point.
dan friesen
The CIA was involved in overthrowing Mohammed Mosaddegh, the prime minister of Iran, in 1953.
Alex says that they helped the Ayatollahs overthrow the Shah, but the U.S. government was firmly behind the Shah.
In 1979, the Shah was overthrown, which led to the Islamic Republic of Iran forming.
But it's going to be a bit harder for Alex to prove that the CIA was involved in that one.
If he's just trying to abstractly say that the meddling in the 1953 coup had ripple effects that inadvertently led to the 1979 revolution, That's probably fair enough, but I think he's making a bit of a stronger claim here that I don't think he can back up.
When Alex says that Iran's been working with the Democratic Party, that's just about how Obama made the Iran nuclear deal, which Trump then pulled out of and Biden recommitted to.
That deal was originally made in 2015, but interestingly, if you go back through Alex's career, he used to be super opposed to sanctions against Iran because he was a Ron Paul guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Sanctions were world government shit and all that back then.
jordan holmes
Sanctions are evil, yeah.
dan friesen
So it should be at least said that on this occasion, at least what Alex is saying is connected to the real world.
On Saturday, Iran launched "dozens of drones and missiles toward Israel," according to Sure.
So at least this is grounded.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And at least as of this point, we're recording on Sunday, it does appear that Iran has said we consider this concluded.
The US said that they're not going to join in on any kind of reprisal.
So it may just be a situation where somebody needs to show strength and not lose face.
It's hard to say, but...
jordan holmes
Right.
No, I mean, it makes sense.
Like, if you understand political...
Stuff.
And then you read history.
You're like, oh, this does make sense.
But then if you also understand that we're on a rock floating in space, then you might just say that they blew up a bunch of PS5s over a desert.
And then we're like, and now that'll teach you a lesson.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
I don't either, and I don't know that this sort of working theory of the deep state did this, got Iran to attack.
I don't understand how all of this works, but whatever.
jordan holmes
I would say that maybe the one true luxury of a religious theocracy is never having to worry about an October surprise.
Like, in any direction, I don't have to be like, oh, there's going to be an October...
Nope.
Religious theocracy.
No need.
No need for a surprise.
dan friesen
And in our bizarre world, October surprises happen in April.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
I don't need any of that either.
dan friesen
So we have some other news in the world.
alex jones
Big numbers out how inflation is hurting Biden's progress on the economy LA Times.
You've got all these former top economists who are Democrats coming out saying, oh, inflation's terrible, Biden's terrible, but that's being done to maneuver him to step down sometime before or during the DNC this coming July.
Top economists, including Barack Obama's Treasury Secretary, discover the real inflation number under Biden reached 18% and is still hovering around 40-year high, and it's actually much higher than that.
dan friesen
So it's never enough for Alex to just accept something that looks like a win.
It's not enough that Biden's inflation number appears to be 18%.
It has to secretly be even higher than that.
So what's going on here is that Alex is taking the cumulative inflation number for the years Biden has been in office, which is admittedly high.
If you look at more specific month-over-month data, you can see that a lot of this is due to the pandemic and that things are trending in the right direction, but it's still not good.
I would dare say that anyone being in office during this time would have a terrible number on this front to deal with.
Something that I thought was interesting here, though, is that the headline for the LA Times article is not, quote, how inflation is hurting Biden's progress with the economy.
The headline is, quote, Why Biden is getting little credit for the economy, especially in California.
What Alex reads is, as best I can tell, a tweet that someone posted linking to that LA Times article.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
So, that's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is great.
Yeah, that is one of those things where it is like, you know, I understand that we have to care about the politicians that we have in office right now.
You know, that's really important.
But with stuff like inflation, we should all be able to, like, stop and go like, nah, dude, this is that guy from 20 years ago's fault.
That's how inflation works.
It's a time thing, you know?
dan friesen
Like, it's not this guy's fault.
There's a constellation of effects.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not something that, like, magically...
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
We're just going to turn this around.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But there are indications of...
You know, progress trending in the right direction.
There's reasons to be somewhat hopeful on that front.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it is a bad, you know, it's a bad stat.
No denying that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't want it.
Low batting average, man.
Not good.
dan friesen
So there's some other news.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Another big study out.
Islands that climate change alarmists have said in the last 40 years would soon disappear due to rising sea levels have been found to have grown in size.
We're going to be looking at all of that information.
dan friesen
Amazing.
So he doesn't end up looking at this information all that much.
So when Alex reads this supposed headline off, they don't flash anything on screen, so I had no idea what he was referencing.
What is this study about growing islands?
jordan holmes
I'm all about it.
dan friesen
So if you look for the exact wording, he's just reading a tweet posted by Zero Hedge.
The Zero Hedge article links to an article published in the International Journal of Digital Earth titled, quote, Evolutionary Dynamics of Island Shoreline in the Context of Climate Change, Insights from Extensive Empirical Evidence.
This is a study about island shorelines.
And one of the reasons they end up saying that some islands, like those in Tuvalu, have grown in size is because of human-driven land reclamation efforts in response to climate change.
The study says that, quote, the data results suggest that sea level rise has not been a widespread cause of erosion for island shorelines in the studied region.
Presently, it's considered one of the contributing factors to shoreline erosion, but not the predominant one.
However, it's critical to understand the context of what they're saying.
This is from their conclusion.
Quote, As they had pointed out earlier,
quote, Through analysis of current data and consideration of future sea level rise scenarios, we believe that sea level rise will continue to pose a significant challenge to island communities.
So I guess when you just read the tweet, it kind of comes off like a dunk against climate change alarmists.
But when you actually look at the underlying actual information, it doesn't really work as well on that front.
jordan holmes
Here's what I think of.
Remember that guy who brought a snowball into Congress?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Did we rip that guy into little pieces, or what?
dan friesen
No, I think we did, and there are all these other tweets.
jordan holmes
I mean, shouldn't that guy have been torn apart in a comical, cartoonish way?
Because that can't be...
This is that...
Oh, see?
These islands are still around!
That's not the point, man!
dan friesen
And there are also some that aren't.
jordan holmes
I mean...
That's just an unhelpful way of...
It is.
dan friesen
And it's also a very serious distortion of the information that's presented in this study that's supposed to be the primary source for this.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So we've got some other news.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
Is there a snowball in Congress again?
dan friesen
There is not.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Then, of course, we've got a lot of bizarre statements out of the White House and out of mainstream media concerning the death by cancer of O.J. Simpson.
We know from major studies.
That the so-called COVID vaccine, that's an mRNA gene therapy, has been causing massive increases in cancer, the accelerated growth of turbo cancers.
So I simply said, hey, he took the shot and he was dead.
He bragged about taking the boosters.
Poor buddy, you should take your shots.
We know the numbers are there that it is triggering massive increases of cancer.
And the corporate media weighed in and said, Jones is making it up, saying O.J. was killed by the shot.
I just pointed out that a lot of people are being killed by the shot, and that is a major indicator of it.
dan friesen
So I think early career Alex would be really embarrassed to know that this is the kind of thing he ends up covering on the show.
unidentified
I didn't say O.J. Simpson was killed by turbo cancer he got from the vaccine.
dan friesen
I'm just implying it.
This show is just like a tweet.
That's all this show.
It's just become a tweet.
jordan holmes
I don't even know.
dan friesen
This is the physical embodiment of a tweet.
jordan holmes
You know, that is an event that I've been really struggling with on account of...
dan friesen
Losing OJ?
jordan holmes
I mean, that's kind of my problem here.
I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about this.
Because I know how I remember what happened.
I was alive for him murdering people.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And everybody was, like, understandably mad about that.
And then I was alive for if I did it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which I think changed everything.
Right?
dan friesen
It was an interesting choice.
jordan holmes
It was a...
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to confess to this murder that I got away with.
Uh...
dan friesen
If...
jordan holmes
And then, and then, but then, now here we are where people are just writing, oh, the complicated legacy of, like, what?
I don't...
I don't feel like it's that complicated.
dan friesen
I may be not searching far and wide, but I might be missing some of this commentary that you're talking about.
unidentified
Really?
jordan holmes
I'm talking, like, the Guardian places.
I'm talking to, like, regular-ass people writing, like, OJ was known for being a really good running back.
Like, okay, I mean, sure.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Sure, I get that.
dan friesen
I guess I'm not seeing as much of the eulogizing, but I'm not saying it's not there.
Maybe it just missed me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it could be.
dan friesen
It seems like my experience of the...
It's been mostly people being like, oh well.
And then other people being like, the vaccine did it, which seems to be the waters Alex is playing in.
jordan holmes
See, this is one I really feel like we could all just agree to just be like, let's just move on.
dan friesen
Oh well.
jordan holmes
You know?
Like, hey, this is what happened.
Moving on.
dan friesen
But this also gives Alex an opportunity to pivot into...
jordan holmes
OJ?
dan friesen
COVID news.
There's some new COVID news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Powerful video that we're going to be playing coming up.
The great COVID cover-up.
Shocking truth about Wuhan and 16 federal agencies.
And that was Senator Rand Paul on with the Fox News host, Laura Ingram.
It's an excellent five-page article from Fox News.
And what are they talking about?
They're talking about this.
The New York Post is finally covering it.
Three years ago, a lot of these emails were already public, but now even more emails are public.
Whistleblower shares more COVID origin emails.
Fauci advisor allegedly concealed on private account House panel.
Now, we had emails less than a year into this.
This has been going on four years.
Plus, wow, it's hard to believe.
We had emails in late 2020.
So over three years ago, we've covered it at nauseam, from the EcoHealth Alliance, and a lot of that is because what Dr. Huff, who was the vice president of it, was giving it to Tom Renz and others, and later testified to Congress and others, that they were developing COVID-19 for the CIA and the Defense Department, and they were developing the vaccine before they ever released COVID.
dan friesen
So what happened to Ebola in Denver?
I could have sworn we were supposed to see some movement on that front by now, but I guess we haven't, so it's back to COVID.
jordan holmes
Back to COVID.
unidentified
Fine.
jordan holmes
Oh, Jesus.
dan friesen
So none of the stuff that Alex is saying there is correct.
Tom Renz is a very disreputable source, and Dr. Andrew Huff is not a sincere actor.
He wasn't the vice president of EcoHealth Alliance.
He worked there from 2014 to 2016, according to them, quote, working on computer-based algorithms to assess emerging disease threats.
He's listed in a 2016 report as one of their three associate vice presidents.
So it's, you know...
It's not a wholesale lie, but it is kind of an exaggeration.
jordan holmes
He's around.
dan friesen
It does seem like he was a computer guy, as a 2015 article from the University of Minnesota School of Public Health was celebrating a $4.6 million grant he'd won for EcoHealth Alliance, quote, to continue the development of the Global Rapid Identification Tool System, a software program that is designed to monitor early warning signals.
So all of this story is about a letter that Representative Brad Wenstrup sent to the associate director of the National Emerging Infectious Disease Laboratory Institute because they found reason to believe that a senior scientific advisor at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases may have used a personal email address to conduct.
Bastard.
Sure.
revelation of stuff that's in any of those emails, only that the representative is requesting them.
So we don't have a ton to go off of.
But hey, man, you know, if you're using the personal email address and people have requested those records and, you know...
Sure.
It's not to say that there's anything in them that's damning.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Hey, you should have done the thing.
That's the rule.
dan friesen
Also, the Rand Paul thing was about 15 federal agencies.
I guess Alex can't help but bump it up to 16. He can't help it.
jordan holmes
Come on.
Just 15 is even a more...
is a better number.
16. No, 16 is not a good number.
dan friesen
He's a heightening guy.
jordan holmes
Hey, he's too hyped.
No, but that's...
dan friesen
You're designed to do that.
jordan holmes
15 is the correct number.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I think that, you know, we say that Alex...
unidentified
Which are you?
jordan holmes
Are you a multiples of three guy or are you a multiples of four guy?
dan friesen
I don't...
I think four.
But look...
jordan holmes
What about the number 12?
dan friesen
Love it.
Here's the thing.
I think that Alex is...
We say that he's a bad improv guy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he heightens.
He has an instinct to heighten.
I think maybe he would be a good guy to have on your team.
jordan holmes
I ask you this question.
What is an instinct and what is a pathology?
dan friesen
I think in the world of improv, it's probably gray.
I think it's a gray area.
jordan holmes
In the world of improv, you have absolutely nailed it.
Are you Dale Close Reborn?
Hey.
dan friesen
Um, yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
And we have another clip.
jordan holmes
He was a four guy.
dan friesen
Here's another clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It was premeditated.
It was launched against the people.
Life expectancy's dropping.
Cancer is exploding.
We have a 40-plus percent increase in the overall morbidity rate.
World population is now dropping for the first time since the Black Plague.
They have now launched this attack.
And if it doesn't get exposed fully...
If people aren't brought to justice, they've now beta tested, launching an even more deadly virus, an even more deadly injection in the future.
This is a test to see if they can depopulate.
dan friesen
It's sincerely not fair for Alex to say that COVID was a beta test now.
I can't count the number of times that Alex got on air and said that we've left beta testing and the globalists have gone operational.
How many times he said that this is the full-on, like, this is the actual assault.
We're doing it.
This is it.
It's going down.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But now, now what?
This is all just a test for some future calamity that you're trying to scare people about?
That's bullshit.
This is not cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, if you think about all of his...
dan friesen
It was over for humanity.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, but if you coincide that with his emotional state and how well he was doing in the trials and so forth, you know...
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's over for humanity a lot of times whenever it's over for his bank account, right?
dan friesen
Things were looking bad.
jordan holmes
But the problem is, nothing actually happened, and it still isn't actually happening.
dan friesen
A lot of things have happened, just not the type of things that he's saying.
jordan holmes
Exactly, but not even the things that would correlate to something like that in his fictional life.
In real life, if somebody actually took his fucking couch or something, in fictional life, that would be like, they're coming for our home!
That's the idea, right?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So he hasn't even had the real life version happen yet.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
So what's going to happen then?
dan friesen
If...
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Somebody just take his shit.
dan friesen
Just the couch.
Just the couch.
jordan holmes
At least take his couch.
dan friesen
Here's the thing.
It's not going to happen.
They're not going to take the couch now, because Alex is going to sue the CIA and the FBI, and it's going to come out that they were behind everything.
And he's been trying to get some inroads, trying to figure out if he should do this.
And I got the sense, listening to this, that maybe he's trying to talk himself out of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And so a lot of people want me to sue the FBI and the CIA.
And I'm not a litigious person.
But we have to bring this out further in the light.
We have to document it.
And I do want congressional hearings, and they're talking about doing hearings.
It's been brought up in the FISA hearings.
Five congressmen and women are now talking about it that I know of.
We've got some of those clips coming up.
So this is...
This is a big deal, because if I don't do that, then I'm basically not fighting as hard as I could.
That said, the system obviously tries to protect itself.
It's very, very corrupt.
There are some big law firms that are successfully going after the deep state, and that's who I'm in the process of talking to or have talked to.
And then they say we've got very, very serious cases against these folks.
But that is definitely something that we're looking into.
And doing.
But regardless, in the court of public opinion, that's where the enemy's losing.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's where I'm gonna mostly do my shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Talking shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the court of public opinion.
dan friesen
I think that this is actually exactly what Alex needs to be doing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
In terms of framing this.
Because there has to be like an ambivalence.
You know, I don't want to do this.
You have to be this sort of begrudging person fighting the Goliath.
jordan holmes
Oh, I would love to retire back to my palatial vista, but the people!
I must represent them in the battle!
dan friesen
There has to be a sense of like, ah, I don't even want to do this.
And then that also is really helpful because you have to set up an expectation that you're not going to win.
Because this isn't going to...
jordan holmes
Well, you're going up against the CIA, the FBI.
Of course you're not going to win.
dan friesen
Right.
So there has to be some sort of doomed, kixotic element to this.
jordan holmes
Noble, but failure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he has to recruit all kinds of possible...
jordan holmes
He's getting his crew together.
He's getting his crew together.
This is our Ocean's Eleven moment.
dan friesen
Well, later, he does interview Barnes, and he's like, Hey, Barnes, I've been meaning to talk to you about this lawsuit.
Can I call you later today?
So he doesn't even talk to Barnes.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
But he has been trying to enlist the Texas Attorney General.
alex jones
Okay.
I have been playing phone tag with Paxton, and there's a lot of other things I need to get to.
But I can tell you this.
People have seen the attacks on Trump.
They've seen the weaponization.
They've seen the juryless trials.
They've seen them taking him off the ballot and all this other illegal crap.
That's open election theft in front of you.
Attempted election theft.
And the sleeping giant's awake.
dan friesen
So I think that Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton probably isn't going to be able to help Alex too much.
He's about to stand trial for securities fraud, something that he was indicted over in 2015 and which a judge recently denied his motion to throw out.
He could go to prison, honestly.
Also, he was impeached in the Texas House last year in a 121 to 23 bipartisan vote.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He was acquitted in the state senate, but he was suspended from his duties between May and September because of the impeachment, which was over 20 articles ranging from dereliction of duty to abuse of public trust.
And according to the Texas Tribune, the securities fraud trial starts today, on Monday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This episode comes out.
He's busy.
jordan holmes
See, here's the thing that I like about this, because I think this is the right move, because Paxton is within Alex's budget.
And Paxton is very purchasable.
If you've read one third of the things that he has done, he is very much purchasable.
dan friesen
And based on sort of like vibes and shit, it seems like he would be someone who would be on Alex's team.
jordan holmes
He might even give Alex a discount.
That kind of level of like ideologically aligned and also would like some money to help produce.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's there.
dan friesen
It's...
Unfortunately plausible that they've been playing phone tech.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also he seems busy.
unidentified
Well, let's hope.
dan friesen
With his own difficulties.
So Alex went on vacation, as we know, and everyone fucking loved him.
They loved him so much.
jordan holmes
In Hawaii.
dan friesen
Yes.
And Alex spends maybe ten minutes talking about this.
Maybe more, honestly.
It is interminable.
alex jones
I get on the airplane to fly from Hawaii back to Austin, Texas.
I get on.
I'm shaking the hands of the stewardesses, male, female, their listeners.
I sit down.
This old man and his wife are listeners.
The older gentleman behind me with his wife are listeners.
And when I get off the airplane, I had multiple people come over and say, it was so good to see what you talk about on air just happen.
It was incredible.
He said, I just saw you on Steve Manon two days ago talking about this phenomenon, and I just watched it.
Now, folks, what does that say about the New World Order?
And I keep harping on this because it's a blind spot for you because you're not famous, which is a great thing.
Again, it's wonderful.
It's a curse in many ways to be famous, but you also get to learn things other people don't.
I'm a symbol of the resistance.
I'm a symbol of fighting the deep state of the New World Order.
And it was the customs guys that scan your stuff to make sure you don't have any produce because you could have fruit flies or whatever.
My wife got caught with an apple in her backpack.
She forgot.
All four of the guys go, Alex, come on over here.
Your wife's got an apple.
Is she okay?
Yeah, no, you can't carry it.
Hey, we love you.
MAGA all the way.
That's flying out of Kauai.
Go through the TSA.
Hey, man, we're a lifter.
We know it's BS.
The border is wide open.
On and on and on.
Go through.
Go buy some breakfast tacos.
Everybody in the restaurant's a listener.
I mean, everybody.
Had a bartender in there at 10 a.m. in the morning trying to give us drinks.
I'm like, no, no, no.
Had a bar in there, too.
unidentified
It's huge.
alex jones
And I had one woman come up to me.
I'm sitting there on the beach three days ago.
She goes, are you Alex Jones?
And she's looking at me.
Middle-aged white woman.
And I said, yes.
My daughter was out boogie boarding like 50 yards from me with my wife.
They were out on those.
And she said, I effing hate you and hate your family, and I hope you die.
And I said, let me get my phone.
It's a video of this.
And she goes, F you.
I can't believe what you did to those children.
And I said, what did I do?
And she goes, you pissed on their graves.
And I looked at her and felt sorry for her.
And she stomped off.
And I thought about imagine being that mind-controlled.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
Quite a trip, he's describing.
This is exhausting, this stretch of the show, but it does add two interesting new wrinkles to Alex's folklore about everyone loving him everywhere he goes.
The first is that character in the story who vouches for how real the story is.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I really like that.
jordan holmes
It's very important to do that.
dan friesen
The guy who's like, I can't believe I saw this phenomenon in real life!
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
I love it.
jordan holmes
That's always nice.
dan friesen
The second is the very definitely real woman on the beach who attacks Alex with the straw man that he's created about the accusations against him.
jordan holmes
The exact ones that he uses all the time.
unidentified
That's so weird.
jordan holmes
It's really nice of her to fit within the...
dan friesen
It's much easier to pretend that everyone is just saying that Alex himself did it because then he could be like, I can't believe they're making this up about me.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
And if you want to attribute that to me, I've said far worse.
dan friesen
Definitely.
But you're not an old white woman in Hawaii.
Middle-aged white woman in Hawaii on the beach.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
So, yeah, this goes on for a long time, and there's more stretches of the show that is dedicated to him talking about how much everyone loves him, and it is exhausting.
But it's not about him.
It's not about him.
It's a symbol.
He's a symbol.
jordan holmes
How about this?
Let me ask you this question.
All right?
Now, he can't do it, and these people can't do it, because they can't trust, right?
But if you're Alex, you're staring down the barrel of being bankrupt and broke for the rest of your life, hopefully, from my point of view, not his, why not take, you know, you've got plenty of money, why not take like $20 million?
$20 million, cash it up.
Take it to Hawaii with you and just start giving it around, right?
And then all your money is gone.
Fine.
They've got all your actual money, but you can go to Hawaii and people there know that you're the one who gave them like $20 million in the community.
So you just go, you get free drinks.
You know, you do the thing.
You know what I'm saying?
You live on the largesse of others because you have given it to them first.
dan friesen
Sure.
That's a strategy.
I think it would not work.
jordan holmes
See, you're not trusting either.
dan friesen
I thought that you were going to say, like, the strategy should be take $20 million or a much smaller amount of money and invest in a camera to follow you around.
To illustrate all of these people who love you so much.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, that would help.
dan friesen
And I think it would be even simpler because he always has, like, his security with him.
I'm sure there were security guards on that beach.
They could have a body cam on them.
jordan holmes
Do you think they...
How many of them do you think have, like, camera phone video of Alex doing something that's totally illegal?
dan friesen
I don't want to speculate, but I would imagine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There are some.
So, look, this attack on Alex, it's meant for you.
jordan holmes
For me?
dan friesen
It's that whole, like, they're just trying to get through me to get to you.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
alex jones
Their attack on me is a mirror of the attack on you.
They want to break our families up.
They want single mothers isolated, controlled by the government.
They want all the women working so they can't raise the children.
Everything they do is about making you poor and in debt to hurt you.
And if we build an ecosystem and an economy of the people...
And people are allowed to listen to what they want to listen to.
We'll be a nation that's prosperous and free and safe and secure again.
Look at Bukele and El Salvador, most dangerous country in the world.
He takes over three years ago, and within one year it becomes the safest country in the Western Hemisphere, the second safest in the world.
Investment pouring in, government surpluses.
They have like one murder a month now.
They used to have hundreds a day.
Real leadership.
Snap the fingers.
It's over.
dan friesen
So it is definitely true that since Naib Bukele's election, the murder rate in El Salvador has dropped dramatically.
From 38 per 100,000 people in 2019 to 7.8 in 2022.
That's an impressive feat.
However, Alex should really, really have a problem with how he's achieved it.
Bukele launched a push against organized crime after 92 people were killed between March 24th and March 27th, 2022.
He put in a state of emergency that was supposed to last 30 days, but is actually still in place now over two years later.
According to Human Rights Watch, this emergency involved, quote, suspending a range of constitutional rights, including the rights of freedom of association and assembly, to privacy in communications, and to be informed of the reason for arrest.
According to the New York Times, quote, Since March 2022, when Mr. Bukele declared a state of emergency that suspended basic civil liberties, security forces have locked up roughly 75,000 people.
A staggering 1 in 45 adults is now in prison.
Bukele has been able to very seriously attack El Salvador's organized crime problem, largely for two reasons.
The first is that he's essentially suspended...
The second is that El Salvador's gangs were a problem that he could fight.
From the Times, No.
No.
So yeah, Alex has talked a little bit in the past about being excited about Bukele.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
No.
But it's on trend with him.
It's on par with the trend towards kindness and support towards sort of authoritarian leaders.
jordan holmes
You know, I find that fascinating because it does suggest something, which is that if somebody tried to go after one of the good cartels, Then other countries would fight on their behalf.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can't fuck with a good cartel because the United States will actually be like, no, no, no, no.
We need them to facilitate.
They're global organizations now.
They're almost like legitimate businesses.
dan friesen
That's not to say that state actors would come to the defense of those.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Not like, you know.
But they are part of a functioning order now that is the status quo.
Which is fascinating.
dan friesen
It is fascinating.
It's not a good status quo.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying it's a good status quo when people chop their heads off all the time.
That's bad.
What I find fascinating is that it is happening.
dan friesen
It makes it a much more difficult issue to deal with.
And maybe one that would not necessarily be fully dealt with.
jordan holmes
You can't do it this way.
dan friesen
Yeah, through these crackdowns on civil liberties, which is worrying because there are some indications that this model is something that other countries would want to replicate.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it may not be effective.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, because the reality is nobody's problems are local anymore.
Everything is interconnected.
dan friesen
Except for the ones that are local.
In the case of extortion rackets and stuff.
jordan holmes
Well, exactly.
If it is a local problem.
But I mean, you can't...
If you're in Columbia, you're like, oh, we want to tackle this.
Well, that's just going to push it into this place because Columbia is also...
dan friesen
And then the international aspect of the cartel will fill it back in.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It'll backfill once you have done whatever you're doing to try and crack down on it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex has Roger Stone on the show.
And they talked a little bit about some of that persecution, and then Roger talks about a little celebration that they had.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
And then we'll spend some time on your persecution and mine, not because we're whining, but because it's a window into their strategy and stratagem and calculus against us in this bombshell development.
Now brought up in FISA hearings, now they're calling five members of Congress already that I know of calling for hearings.
On this FBI, CIA agent, a bunch of publications said he wasn't real.
They had to admit it, retract it.
Raw story hasn't.
No, the guy's real.
It's on record.
The CIA admits he works there as a contract manager.
I mean, this is really amazing, and I've confirmed major shoes are about to drop, not on Alex Jones, some on me, but on other people.
And I'm not at liberty to tell anybody yet.
We've had similar operations, but this isn't a clandestine video being shot of one of these operatives.
These are whistleblowers now approaching Congress that have already tried to approach other groups that are about to expose operations run against medical doctors that expose the COVID shots, political patriots, populists, and others.
So, including targeting members of Congress.
With the deep state.
So this is really already exploded, and it's coming to the service in a big way.
Roger Stone.
unidentified
You know, Alex, where do we go here?
alex jones
We're right here, Roger.
Did you have a glitch or something?
roger stone
I was confused because we went to the video.
Alex, I was up at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach night before last.
And there was a small reception to celebrate the fact that Truth Social, the president's great social media platform, which I truly love, was going public.
That was a long haul.
A lot of people worked very hard.
A lot of brilliant young tech types.
It was a great event.
I had a nice chat with the actor John Voight.
dan friesen
Sounds fun!
So Alex is just making up that stuff about the CIA confirming.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
There's been no news on that front.
jordan holmes
That sounds like the first time the CIA has ever done anything like that ever.
dan friesen
Yeah, the CIA is like, got us.
jordan holmes
Actually, you know what?
Guys, first time ever?
Why not?
We're going to try something different.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We did it!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So also, I hope that was a really awesome party to launch Trump Media there.
So exciting how that stock was super overvalued and then immediately crashed like 50%.
Trump's stake in the company dropped $4 billion in a matter of days.
jordan holmes
I mean, but it...
None of it's real.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
None of it was ever real.
dan friesen
But it is real for anyone who bought the stock at these heights and then has now lost a bunch of money.
jordan holmes
Right, but I mean, that's the scam that they, you know, like, it was never supposed to be that high.
The rich people, like, watch it go up high and then they go, okay, fuck you, and then they sell all their stuff.
dan friesen
Which is why I hope they had a great party.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, but it's like, you know.
dan friesen
Because that's what they're celebrating.
jordan holmes
It has nothing to do with him.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, he doesn't get the money.
dan friesen
Right, right.
He doesn't get the money.
He can't cash out those things or, like...
Borrow against it for a certain amount of time.
jordan holmes
No, what we should all be weirdly laughing at is that it's a scam being perpetrated through Trump that Trump can't participate in.
dan friesen
When I say that his stake in the company dropped $4 billion, I'm not saying that as he lost that.
I'm just using it to illustrate the precipitous fall of this thing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So anyway, Roger is mostly on to do some deflection and stuff about Trump's case, which actually...
unidentified
The judge, as you know, has got multiple conflicts.
roger stone
First of all, the judge in question gave a campaign contribution to Joe Biden's presidential campaign.
He should recuse himself for that violation of the of the violation of the canon of ethics for judges.
We also now know that his daughter, who's an adult.
Is a Democrat political operative, a fundraiser, who's raised $93 million on this case, using this case as the hook for her fundraising for various Democratic candidates.
That's an egregious...
Conflict of interest also would be grounds for appeal.
And we still can't identify an underlying crime, even if Trump did do the things that he's accused of.
And I'm not sure that he did.
I don't believe he did.
We saw the letter he released from Stormy Daniels in which she flatly denies being paid for her silence because she had an affair with Donald Trump.
She says flatly that never happened.
So you've got two liars here as the major witness.
You've got fat Alvin Bragg.
The feds wouldn't bring this case.
The career prosecutors in his own office didn't want to bring this case.
It's an extraordinarily weak case, but they're so desperate.
They don't care if they get reversed, you see, because the appeals process takes months, maybe a year.
They're desperate to have...
Some conviction, any conviction in any court, Alex, because then you see if there are election irregularities, if there's election fraud, they can then justify their win by saying, oh, well, it was the trials.
It was these convictions that dragged Trump down.
That is very much the strategy.
alex jones
I predict even if they get kangaroo convictions.
It's only going to backfire further.
No one is buying this, Roger.
The sleeping giant is now awake.
dan friesen
So Justice Juan Marchand consulted a judicial ethics committee about his small donations to Democrat politicians as well as his daughter's career, and they determined that these things wouldn't be a threat to his impartiality and that he didn't have to recuse himself.
So all of this stuff is not the big issue that Roger's making it out to be.
Trump has continued to attack the judge as well as his daughter and has been given a gag order, which he seems to just be ignoring.
Trump did release a picture of a letter from Stormy Daniels denying that they had an affair, but she's since come out and said that...
She wrote that letter because she was made to feel like she had to because of an NDA.
And Roger's not even bringing up the second woman that Trump is accused of paying hush money to.
Roger's got a good spin here, though, I think.
And that is that this case is just to give a plausible explanation for how Trump could have possibly lost so the globalists can steal the election more smoothly.
This is the thinking man's narrative.
jordan holmes
It is the right narrative because they've seen, because all the polls that are like, if Trump gets convicted, then we'll say no.
Which is hilarious.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You lying fucks.
I can't believe people would even believe that shit.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
So, I mean, it's, you know, it's a fine spit.
jordan holmes
If they prove he committed a crime, I'll finally change my mind about this man who I watched commit crimes over and over and over again before my eyes.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Now, somebody who couldn't do any better than that person who's committed some crimes.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Is Ron DeSantis.
Or as we know him, Ron DeSanctimonious.
Oh, man.
He, unfortunately, has not endorsed Trump enough, according to Roger.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
There is a feeling of a demand of, like...
jordan holmes
Fealty?
Yeah.
Like, legitimate kiss-the-ring shit?
dan friesen
Sort of.
alex jones
Great, great.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
And then we get into The Rock.
roger stone
Great.
DeSantis had a donor retreat this past weekend in Miami, which makes no sense to me because he can't run for re-election in 2026.
We don't have another presidential election until 2028.
I've seen stories that he says he's going to raise money for Donald Trump.
I hope that that's right.
But I'd like him to start by endorsing Trump.
He's still nowhere, as he said, I am voting for and I urge you to vote for Donald Trump.
It's not what he said in his withdrawal.
Well, most Republicans have decided they want Trump again.
That was kind of a grudging admission, but that's not exactly a full-throated endorsement.
alex jones
Well, yeah, that's like The Rock or Dwayne Johnson saying, I'm not voting for Biden this time.
roger stone
Look, The Rock, I got a quick Rock story.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah!
roger stone
A few years ago, I worked out in the gym, and I met a guy who worked out there regularly, and he was a stunt double for The Rock.
He was a really nice guy, was conservative.
We got to be a little friendly.
And he told me that The Rock had aspirations to run for political office.
He knew my background.
I said, oh, that's very interesting.
He said...
Would you like to talk to him?
I said, sure, I'd love to talk to him.
I'd like to meet the guy.
So this guy went to The Rock and he said, you know, Roger Stone works out at my gym.
We become friendly.
He's got a lot of political experience.
I know you've got some political aspirations.
Do you want to meet him?
The Rock fired this guy on the spot.
Whoa!
jordan holmes
That is not how I thought that story was going to end.
dan friesen
Do not get me Roger Stone!
jordan holmes
I am fascinated by that.
dan friesen
Hey, I work out at...
unidentified
It doesn't matter who you work out at a gym with!
jordan holmes
Here's what's funny about that.
That is far more likely the reason that he was fired.
Not because he brought Roger Stone, it's because it is not your place to tell me about Roger Stone!
dan friesen
Well, there's two things that I think about here.
The first is...
When Roger said The Rock had political aspirations, I audibly, as I was listening to the episode, to myself said, no shit.
I think anyone is probably...
I think that's pretty obvious.
He gave a speech at the 2000 RNC convention.
He's a guy who has some design.
jordan holmes
Ridiculous.
dan friesen
But the second thing I thought of is he also has gone through a...
Gigantic physical transformation since he's been in movies.
He maybe needs a different stunt double.
I could see a situation where firing or getting a new stunt double doesn't necessarily...
It's not necessarily because Roger Stone's name was evoked.
jordan holmes
Unfortunately, you only weigh 280 pounds, and I need you to weigh at least 678.
Because I am going to be even bigger tomorrow.
dan friesen
There's a potential for that.
I also don't think it's impossible that maybe he was fired because he brought up Roger Stone.
If you're somebody who has mainstream Republican aspirations, you would know who Roger Stone is.
jordan holmes
It's because if he does, he would know Roger Stone specifically.
dan friesen
And you are becoming friends with him, and therefore I'm cutting you out of my orbit.
I could see that possibly being true.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would almost...
See, here's the thing.
It would require me to believe that The Rock is that politically calculating that quickly.
dan friesen
He might be.
jordan holmes
Which is possible, but I don't...
dan friesen
Immediately is a vague term here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's an issue.
dan friesen
Because I'm certain it wasn't just a...
jordan holmes
Know your role.
dan friesen
Shut your mouth.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Get out of here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But immediately could be like a couple days later.
jordan holmes
It could be something like that.
It could be like, oh, I looked into this Roger Stone cat and I'm going to let you go.
dan friesen
I talked to my advisors.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So OJ comes up.
Roger takes a shot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you got him.
roger stone
You know, I also have to say, with the passing of O.J. Simpson, you know, when I was under trial, O.J. talked a lot of crap about me.
But now that he has gone on to his maker, I pray for him, pray for the people that I believe he killed.
alex jones
Well, you know, old O.J., I've got the articles right here.
Headline overshot, please.
I got mine.
O.J. Simpson boasts about getting COVID-19 vaccines, and he got three boosters.
And so we know it triggers turbo cancer.
We don't know for sure that this is what killed him, but, well, he's gone now.
So there you go.
So the law never got O.J., but his subservience to the system sure as hell did.
roger stone
There it is.
jordan holmes
There it is.
alex jones
Roger, in closing.
jordan holmes
There it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, I like that response.
Log pause.
There it is.
unidentified
Kind of.
dan friesen
He seems underwhelmed.
Maybe just doesn't fully want to be associated with the COVID vaccine killed OJ Simpson with turbo cancer narrative.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe Roger understands that that's something for the people on Twitter to be doing, not the purveyor.
This is something that Alex should keep his hands clean on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now, I'll tell you this.
The more we live in the world we live in...
The more I am becoming convinced that the most important Bible story is the Tower of Babel.
Because I think that, you know, if there was a God, and he hears a bunch of people coming to him with shit like...
Hey, OJ is a good guy or a bad guy because of the COVID vaccine.
He'd be like, you know what?
We gotta stop this shit.
Everybody go to your own corners for a while.
dan friesen
So Twitter is the tower?
jordan holmes
Yeah, we can't have this.
Everybody go to your own corners.
None of you can talk to each other until we figure this shit out.
Because we're arguing about whether or not OJ died of COVID.
I don't care!
dan friesen
I'm not arguing about that.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's what I'm saying!
dan friesen
Alex is just...
Talking a bunch of shit.
jordan holmes
OJ and Alex and Roger Stone all deserve each other.
That's what God says.
dan friesen
Well, there it is.
jordan holmes
There it is.
dan friesen
Roger, I think, was trying to stay out of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe it.
dan friesen
So, Roger has some ideas about the Democratic ticket for 2024.
jordan holmes
Does he have some advice?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No?
dan friesen
But theories.
jordan holmes
Theories.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
What's going to happen with Biden?
You've been saying for two plus years they'll remove him on or before.
The inauguration or are before the Democrat convention.
They're now openly, as you know, saying that all over corporate news, all over dinosaur media.
What do you expect to happen?
He's deteriorating even faster than he was previously.
roger stone
Well, let's be very clear.
I never believed that he would resign as president.
I did believe that they would pull him from the election, that he would announce after accumulating enough delegates to be nominated, he will ultimately, I think, be pressured into announcing that he's not running again.
That would allow him to remain as president so that after the election he can pardon himself and his brother and his son and other members of the Biden crime family.
jordan holmes
And become a dude.
roger stone
So I was glad to see Joe Rogan as...
Finally come around to my point of view on this.
I've been saying it for about two years.
So what would happen technically is I never said that Michelle Obama would run.
That's not what I've said.
What I've said is she will be the candidate, meaning I believe that if he releases these delegates and the convention is allowed to work its will and draft the candidate that is most popular, that I think she would ultimately be imposed upon to run.
alex jones
You've always said it'll be a draft.
They'll make her do it.
roger stone
Yes, exactly.
And I stand by that prediction even today.
dan friesen
So that's the prediction.
Roger's sticking to his guns.
jordan holmes
I think what amazes me most about this is that Michelle Obama is currently one of the richest and most powerful people on the planet and would only lose wealth and money and power by becoming president.
dan friesen
But so did Trump.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
But that was the story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but this is a very opposite story.
Trump didn't have that Netflix money, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I feel like I've seen indications of not interest in this on her part.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
But it's what they are so interested, the storyline being.
jordan holmes
It would make things so much easier for them.
dan friesen
For the right wing and Roger and those types.
jordan holmes
If you're a writer on the right wing, you're lazy, which is what makes you a writer on the right wing.
So this is the way to go.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a...
Fun, exciting story.
You said he becomes a duke, and that's exactly what this feels like.
This is Larry Nichols in 2015 giving a story about some sort of magical deus ex machina where Obama's going to run again and turn the United States into a Muslim caliphate and all this stuff.
We've been here before.
jordan holmes
Here's what confuses me about them.
Because they are so obsessed with, like, that idea of this is a democracy and a republic and all that stuff.
But, like, the overarching idea behind those things is that the people in the government are just representatives of the people.
So if you, like...
Killed the government, the people would just replace them with the representatives.
Because, again, the government exists as part of the people, not as rulers over the people.
But for them, they exist in this space where, like, oh, if they take out the president, then they become king.
And you're like, don't you understand why we have the whole thing?
The whole idea.
dan friesen
Well, maybe that's an indication of their desire to create a king.
jordan holmes
I mean, right?
dan friesen
It seems to...
They like Bukele's stuff in El Salvador.
jordan holmes
Like, okay.
They got rid of...
Oh, man.
They got rid of a representative.
That's awful.
You shouldn't do that.
But we've got a bunch of them, and then if they get rid of one, we'll just vote for another one.
Like, that's the idea.
We're like a bunch of ants.
You can't take us out.
We'll just keep coming.
We'll just keep coming.
Oh, you kill our president?
No matter.
We got another one.
Keep on going, you know?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we've got, Roger, certain that Michelle Obama is going to become the president through this drafting.
And Alex is like, our storyline is that Gavin Newsom is also in the mix.
So how are we going to work this out, Roger?
alex jones
So where is American Psycho 2.0, Gavin Newsom in this?
roger stone
Ideally, of course, they have to figure out how to solve their Kamala Harris problem, because it would normally be her turn if Joe Biden decided for reasons of health that he wasn't running again.
normally the sitting vice president would move in to be the nominee, but they know that's a disaster as well.
So I figure they promise her a Supreme Court justice to see if she sits down.
If they were successful and they don't control the Senate.
Sure!
jordan holmes
That's how that works.
roger stone
Take a ticket of Michelle Obama for president and then give Gavin Newsom...
Sell Gavin Newsom the vice presidential nomination.
He would have to go out, of course, and raise hundreds of millions of dollars from special interests.
But as the governor of California, as also one of the wealthiest men in the country, he's perfectly capable of that.
So don't be shocked if there's a last-minute reshuffle of the Democratic ticket just before their convention.
alex jones
Well, you heard it here first.
Roger, how do people find your show and find your work?
dan friesen
Lazy writing.
And you didn't hear it here first.
He's been saying this on the show for a long time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what to tell you.
dan friesen
He's heard it here a bunch of times.
So anyway, yeah, Roger comes and goes.
jordan holmes
If the whole Democratic Party's demons, or aligned with demons, or working directly with the devil, what does it matter which one is the vice president?
dan friesen
I think that, um...
No, I mean, sure.
You know what, I think it's just fancy.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
unidentified
I think they're just trying to get points.
dan friesen
Making predictions.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
This is just for show.
jordan holmes
It's Oscar nominations.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is like, yeah, obviously whoever is president or vice president, they're all demons or whatever.
unidentified
They're going to be demons.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
This is just to be like, I told you so later.
And then if the prediction doesn't come true, there's really no cost to it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
It's not like people are going to be like, hey, Roger, we'll never listen to you again.
You're not welcome on the show anymore.
There's no downside to making a big swing like this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then on the off chance something happens, you get to be Nostradamus.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's great.
jordan holmes
I think it really is, like, Rush turned everything into sports talk radio.
Like, that was his real...
No, Rush Limbaugh.
dan friesen
Oh, yes.
jordan holmes
Like, that was the power.
Like, it turned everything into sports talk radio where it's like, let's just shout about this for a couple hours and then we'll move on.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yep.
And it sucks.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It sucks.
So, you may recall...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You might not recall.
jordan holmes
I probably don't.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably not.
We talked about it on the last episode.
jordan holmes
That's a long time ago for me.
dan friesen
It was not that big a deal.
Well, maybe it is.
Who knows?
Anyway, Justin Trudeau brought up Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yes, I do recall that.
dan friesen
Okay.
This has been the top story in Canada for five days.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
They have made it a huge national issue.
It's been like the top story for five, six days.
I mean, literally in Canada.
It has trended four or five times that I saw on X that, oh my God, Alex Jones is...
The Conservative Party Canada's brain, which is not true.
But I've already been through this with Trump before, so it's quite the roller coaster.
So I want to get into all the big news happening.
dan friesen
This has not been the top story in Canada for five days.
I don't know.
I mean, it's fun.
It's like we said on the last episode.
It's like an actual...
World leader who's bringing him up.
So I understand overselling this a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But this is in the context of talking to Viva Frye, who's Barnes' co-host on their podcast, Viva Barnes or something.
Anyway, he's from Canada.
He's a lawyer from Canada.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so that's why some of this is relevant.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, Alex was mentioned because...
Trudeau was attacking Pierre-Paul Lever, who Alex had supported.
Now, unfortunately, Pierre-Paul Lever might not be a Trump-type conservative.
jordan holmes
Against Alex?
Not a fan of it?
dan friesen
No, it's just that he maybe wasn't against the vaccine.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
And so Alex has to backpedal his support quite a bit while talking to Viva Fry and do a bunch of like, you know, hey, he's the lesser of two evils type stuff.
Like, he's not as bad as Trudeau.
And it's pretty funny.
Because the whole thing is him not even really being able to fully back the person that is being attacked for Alex supporting them.
It's funny.
jordan holmes
So that sucks.
That sucks for Alex.
Because Alex should be in...
You go back to when Alex is like, I'm above the left right...
Alex should be in the...
We should be returning to the land.
Tear all governments down.
Let's become small pockets of 50 people.
That's where you should be, right?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like, he shouldn't be like, oh, let's pick the lesser of two evils for Canada's presidential election?
What the fuck are we doing?
Canada's presidential election?
You shouldn't even believe Canada has a prime minister.
You should believe that they still vote for the queen.
dan friesen
Well, there's an interesting reason why Alex cares about these foreign elections, like Canada, and he expresses it in this next clip.
alex jones
People think, why does Australia matter?
Why does Germany matter?
Folks, it's a globalist attack on all these countries.
Look at Brazil, or El Salvador, or Argentina, or wherever.
The more countries where we can get populists or conservatives or nationalists in are less countries that globalists control.
This is a worldwide war, so this is like a risk game.
Every country that we can intellectually awaken that can take their nation back is a major victory.
dan friesen
Ah yes, risk.
That notorious game of global liberation.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, are you, if I understand correctly, are you saying that you want to conquer the world?
unidentified
Well, with a loose network of dictators.
jordan holmes
A single global ideology running everywhere on this planet.
dan friesen
It's like Risk.
Freeing everyone up!
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
Sounds right.
dan friesen
That's a good analogy.
jordan holmes
I don't want to live in this world.
dan friesen
No.
And you know what world I don't want to live in?
unidentified
Which one?
dan friesen
Where we're listening to Viva Frye and Bobby Barnes.
So we're not going to, really.
jordan holmes
Good call.
Good call.
dan friesen
Instead, let's spend another minute and a half listening to Alex talk about how everyone loved him in Hawaii.
alex jones
Let me tell you something.
If we were getting our asses kicked and losing, I'd still do this.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're not losing.
I should spend the whole show.
In fact, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to wear a secret camera, and I'm going to go to the grocery store, and I'm going to go to church, and I'm going to go to the shopping mall, and I'm going to walk down the street, and I'm going to let you see what happens.
Sure, you should go to the grocery store, shake a few hands, almost never get yelled at.
Now, I go six, seven, eight months until I get yelled at, and I probably shook when I was on vacation for a week and a half.
No exaggeration, a thousand hands.
A thousand hands.
And they'd all say to me, I'm sorry to take up your time.
I'm sorry to bother you.
For a picture, I say, you're sorry.
I love you.
I'm trying to reach you people.
We're in this together.
And they were every color, and they were male and female and old and young, and it was beautiful.
jordan holmes
They were every color in the ring.
alex jones
I was on an airplane yesterday, back from Hawaii, the day before.
And there were...
A captain coming out, and the stewardesses, and everybody standing up and shaking my hand.
We got off the plane, and everybody's like, we heard you say this on Steve Bannon a few days ago.
It's real!
And they were all like, what?
unidentified
We're all awake!
alex jones
And they were all talking.
I said, bye-bye, with a big throng of people hugging each other.
unidentified
They were all hugging each other and celebrating that it's real, that everyone loves Alex.
jordan holmes
This is quite a scene!
I wonder if that's how the Grinch views the story.
It's like, see all of them hugging?
That's because they love me!
They didn't need those fucking presents!
I love those presents!
Those presents were for me!
dan friesen
They did love him at the end of the story, right?
jordan holmes
I know!
That's because he changes his belief system.
Imagine he stays up where he's at and just chills with all the presents and then he's like, see, I'm taking credit for them loving each other.
dan friesen
I mean, I do want, I mean, look, honestly, Here's the deal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I support him wearing a camera and doing this.
unidentified
Me too.
dan friesen
Because I'm very curious about this scene.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I would like independent verification of these people all hugging each other and celebrating how great it is that everyone is so nice to Alex.
jordan holmes
And I want the Waynes brothers to direct.
dan friesen
I just want to see it.
If it's real, I'll accept it.
unidentified
Fine.
jordan holmes
I will watch the shit out of it.
dan friesen
So Alex has had this undercover video that's come out.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he ends up interviewing two people who are associated with that group, Sound Investigations, that put it out.
jordan holmes
That put it out.
dan friesen
We do not learn a whole lot about...
Anything.
jordan holmes
Were one of them the people taking the video?
dan friesen
I don't believe so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't believe so.
jordan holmes
Do we have who's taking, who took the video?
dan friesen
One of their operatives.
jordan holmes
Right.
Do we know who that is?
dan friesen
And the guy who runs the thing, who started it, worked for Project Veritas.
So this is just sort of like another extension off of that.
jordan holmes
Totally.
It's like a subsidiary company kind of thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, no.
But you don't get really any...
There's no information that solidifies any of the things that are being said in the video.
There's no confirmation of, like, how did you confirm he worked for the CIA or any of this stuff.
There's no indication of, like, what were your practices that involved vetting this information other than this guy said it at a coffee shop and we just said okay.
jordan holmes
Okay, let me throw this out at you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you are Project Veritas, or the like, if you're one of these people, you can't have somebody verify your bullshit, because it's bullshit, right?
And people who you appreciate, they don't want that kind of verification anyways.
What you do...
You film another secret video with the guy who recorded the first secret video where you try and get him to, like, break, you know?
You're like, oh, you guys lie all the time, don't you?
And then when he's like, oh, we never lie, we're always true, then you leak that video.
That proves that the first video's true because you leaked it.
dan friesen
Right, and then the person who recorded that video, you do it again.
jordan holmes
Yes, and then you do it again and then you realize they're lying.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Plot twist.
jordan holmes
Then the whole thing crumbles.
dan friesen
So anyway, I...
We found it not that helpful.
jordan holmes
No, I imagine so, yeah.
dan friesen
But this clip, where Alex is talking about how he's planning to do a space, a Twitter space, about this, I thought this was illuminating.
alex jones
I had invited Elon Musk.
Via X to join us tomorrow for a space as we're doing live at 1 p.m. Central on the weaponization of the FBI and CIA against the American people.
I'm also invited to Eric Cochran, founder of Sound Investigations on, Jack Posobiec and a whole raft of amazing people there.
He said possibly he'll get back with us.
And normally when Elon says possibly, that means it's going to happen.
I've already been on several shows with him, two-and-a-half-hour interview with him a few months ago.
No, you haven't.
We also talk to Adrian Dittman all the time, who's not Elon Musk.
But I was just talking to Elon Musk via text.
dan friesen
Sure.
Why'd you bring that up?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
Why won't anyone just be?
Just be who you are!
dan friesen
I find that so fascinating.
When he's talking about the times that he's talked to Elon Musk, he brings up the guy who sounds like Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
And of the times that he's referencing talking directly to Elon Musk, I guarantee that he's counting times that he's talked to Adrian.
dan friesen
I think he has to be.
jordan holmes
He has to be.
dan friesen
And he says he's not Elon Musk and Alex is laughing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex really, really is certain that this is him.
jordan holmes
He has to believe it's him.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Which makes me think it's not.
The more convinced Alex says something is true, the less convinced you should be it's true.
dan friesen
Right, right.
It's interesting.
jordan holmes
It's a hard and fast rule.
dan friesen
It's interesting.
I'm still of the mind that it's not.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
So, Alex in this next clip, he goes out to break.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And after this point, he's going to play the special report that he recorded about the FBI and CIA setting him up.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So we're going to cover that.
But this is where he leaves off the show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I think he makes...
A little bit of a revelation that could be a problem.
alex jones
DrJonesNaturals.com.
And that is a major sponsor of our operation.
And I can vouch for the guy that runs it because he's my daddy.
He decided two years ago when the products were selling in Infowars we might be shut down.
He went and got a warehouse, set all this up.
He already had a website.
And he's there just, you know, boom.
Right there.
That's what my daddy does.
Without even asking, he's always got me.
And he's a great guy.
It tears my eyes at what they've done to my dad, folks.
You don't want me to talk about it.
They've harassed the hell out of my parents.
But it's okay.
They're good people.
They're pissed.
My mother literally told me six months ago, she goes, come home with your shoulder on it.
She's never liked that.
She said, I don't want to settle.
I don't want to be nice.
I'm not intimidated.
Go after them.
Well, okay, mama.
We're going to do what you said.
So back my mother and my father and back me.
Back us!
roger stone
All we do is deliver victory!
alex jones
You on war!
unidentified
You got it!
Ah!
jordan holmes
Mist timed the break.
alex jones
By touch.
unidentified
Just a little bit.
dan friesen
Yeah, a tiny bit.
Thought he was going to scream for a little bit shorter than that, but it is what it is.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think it might not be the best.
Thing for Alex to be discussing how his dad set up the supplement company in response to the fact that they were going to be shut down.
Because that really does seem to imply some machinations.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It kind of does.
It doesn't look great.
I feel like it's a little, as the youth say, sus.
jordan holmes
I just appreciate, just remember, the next time you think about Alex Jones' parents, think about a weird old lady shouting, yeah, go get those Sandy Hook parents.
dan friesen
Come home on your shield or with it.
jordan holmes
Come home on your shield against those enemies, the Sandy Hook family.
dan friesen
I wonder how much of that is accurate, of his telling of his parents.
But who knows?
Anyway, we get to this special report.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I got very excited because Alex says he promises big.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
We are about to break information critically vital, not just to the future of America, but the future of free peoples across the world.
unidentified
Whoa.
alex jones
Myself, my crew, my organization, and my family have been the victims in the last seven years of a CIA, Justice Department, FBI, globalist attack.
Now, I didn't understand the full scope of this until just the last year, but listeners and viewers have heard me break down the fact that it was a CIA-FBI coordinated operation.
It's now begun to come out in just the last week.
There have been congressional hearings.
There have been documents.
There have been operatives who've been caught in clandestine recordings.
And even more is set to come out in the next week to two weeks.
dan friesen
So this, I mean, the only thing really is that there was that undercover video.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, what else is set to come out?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, that remains to be seen.
You said that there are people who are whistleblowers who are going to the government.
Which seems odd.
I mean, I don't know.
We'll see what happens when that happens.
But for now, the only thing that has happened is that there was this undercover video of this person.
And then, like, a couple of people in the house have talked some shit about it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's basically the only information that is there that is available.
Man.
unidentified
This undercover video stuff is getting weaker and weaker.
dan friesen
It never was that strong to begin with.
unidentified
It was never strong.
jordan holmes
I mean, I remember, what was it?
Was it like the acorn thing in the Obama voting?
dan friesen
But that was when it was new.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think Breitbart might have still been around.
jordan holmes
Oh, you're right.
At that point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was like that kind of like, oh, they said at least some words that sounded shady.
You know, this is like literally just some guy talking shit, very obviously.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, but if that's what works.
Then why hold yourself to a higher standard?
jordan holmes
You have to work hard if you don't have to.
That's a good question.
dan friesen
So I was excited because I heard Alex say we're going to break open all this brand new information, all this stuff.
So here's where we start.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
A lot of the regular viewers and listeners of my syndicated daily show know the details of this, but we've talked about it in chunks and pieces.
Now we're going to lay it all out.
Succinctly with the new information here today.
But here's the bottom line.
Let's start going through the articles and start here.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
GOP lawmakers condemn CIA, FBI attack against Alex Jones.
And this is in congressional hearings and in interviews.
Breaking.
Republican congressmen and women call for official investigation to FBI, CIA setup of Alex Jones.
Representative Troy Nels.
Representative Paulina Luna, Representative Mike Lee, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene and more are now calling for official hearings and criminal investigations of the information that's broken in the last week.
dan friesen
So Troy Nels and Anna Paulina Luna both made comments about this on Benny Johnson's show, the same show where Alex was initially a guest discussing this undercover video.
Mike Lee tweeted about this, but notably did so from his personal Twitter account.
Based Mike Lee, as opposed to his official Senate account, which made me sad.
Also, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Alex, shows a tweet.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
One of our senators has a Twitter handle named Based Mike Lee.
dan friesen
It appears so.
This is all fine, but this doesn't actually show anything about what Alex is alleging happened.
GOP weirdos saying that there should be an investigation isn't a demonstration of any actual proof.
You know, there's nothing here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, it's not the strongest way to start this thing off, unless the point is really about how much attention this is getting, as opposed to how strong the case is underneath it.
If you're just trying to capitalize on that attention, then this approach makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, and it has to be, like, we've got to be in the realm of Alex is more in it for the attention now, right?
Because he doesn't need, you know, the money's not going to be his for much longer.
dan friesen
Well.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, God willing.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
You know, theoretically.
I mean, if you're him and you're his bankruptcy lawyers, you're looking at that thinking, the writing's on the wall at least, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, this is the game you play, and why are you gonna stop now?
jordan holmes
But so, like, now, if you're in it for the game, though, you're in it to have Justin Trudeau say your name.
That kind of shit, you know?
dan friesen
The pure sportsmanship.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just that, like, ah, my name's still in the news!
You know, that kind of, like, the senator still says my name!
dan friesen
I guess so.
I mean, obviously the goal is still, you know, money.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
The goal is, it's all inexorably intertwined.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You can't...
Untangle these pieces.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's too late now, really.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like I said, the only thing really is this undercover video.
That's really the only thing that's going on.
And so Alex plays a clip of it here that was edited to begin with.
alex jones
Great.
dan friesen
And then now Alex has re-edited it.
jordan holmes
Doubled it up!
alex jones
It's important to understand that the information that broke four days ago, the former FBI and current CIA operative Gavin Oblemis' revelations, that indeed the agencies were working in tandem against myself and my operation to "cut our legs off" and attempt to dial back or suppress the reach we have warning the public about the globalist operations.
unidentified
You can kind of put anyone in jail if you know what to do.
alex jones
How?
unidentified
Who said it not?
Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we were after him.
jordan holmes
Was that court case used?
unidentified
Was that in CNA?
dan friesen
It sure was.
jordan holmes
But we were looking at all of his followers.
unidentified
How many followers?
dan friesen
Who's that been the biggest?
It's important to recognize that what Alex has done here is remix that undercover footage, which is already edited to begin with, so making it so it fits the narrative that's being pushed.
This is deeply unethical stuff.
I'll demonstrate what I mean here.
A little section from that bit that Alex just played.
How?
unidentified
Who said it not?
Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we were after him.
So here is this from the original video.
unidentified
Okay.
You can kind of put anyone in jail if you know what to do.
dan friesen
How?
unidentified
Who said it not?
You create a situation to where they have no choice but to act on their impulse.
dan friesen
And once they act on that impulse, then we'll call that entrapment.
unidentified
It's a fine line.
Okay.
Does the Bureau practice entrapment a lot?
dan friesen
We get really close.
unidentified
Not officially?
No.
dan friesen
So Alex has spliced this together to make it appear that the purported CIA...
jordan holmes
Alex Jones!
dan friesen
Yeah, he's affirmatively answering a question about them setting up Alex, which doesn't appear in the actual recording.
Here's another example that Alex does from the special report.
unidentified
Was that court case used?
June was.
dan friesen
But we were looking at all of his followers.
So here's that from the original video.
jordan holmes
Was that court case used?
June was.
unidentified
That was the agency thing?
dan friesen
Well, actually it was a defamation case.
So it's a civil government.
unidentified
But we were looking at all of those followers.
How many followers make these up in the latest?
dan friesen
So this was edited in order to retain the part where the guy appears to affirmatively reply to the question if the case against Alex was a CIA thing, but remove the part where he clarifies that it wasn't and it was actually a civil case.
These are very intentional things that Alex is doing in order to massage this video so it fits as proof of the narrative that he's putting forth when it doesn't actually work as well as he wants it to.
And that's a mark of...
Dishonesty.
jordan holmes
And you know how fucking wrong you have to be where even a doctored undercover tape still says the same thing that we said over and over again, which is, this is a civil trial, not a criminal trial.
That is how wrong you have to be.
That for years, years after this shit, people are still, even in undercover videos, that are deliberately designed to do the opposite of what you want.
Listen.
It was a civil trial.
Okay?
It was a civil trial.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's a civil trial.
Oh my god.
He's not guilty.
He's liable.
dan friesen
So instead of dwelling too much on the undercover video, Alex retells the story of how he was railroaded.
And so here's him...
jordan holmes
It's time to write it right this time.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess so.
alex jones
A few months before the election in 2016...
Hillary Clinton and her opposition research decided to target then-candidate Trump by claiming that I was his brain and that I was directing his campaign, which was not true.
Then they misrepresented what I had said and what I had done in the past and claimed that I'd done all these terrible things so they could then try to attach that to Trump.
And now we know that huge PR firms We're involved taking things I'd said out of context, exaggerating them, lying about them, and then running thousands of news articles and hundreds of national TV programs, late night comedy, PBS, CNN, ABC News, NBC.
There was literally not one news channel.
National or local or even international that did not run with the story in 2016 and 2017 every day.
Every day.
That I was sending people to Sandy Hook families' homes.
That I was sending people to urinate on graves.
Never any proof of that.
Never any proof of anybody urinating on graves.
And that I was doing all this somehow at the direction of Trump.
dan friesen
So this would be an amazing opportunity to reveal this PR firm's name, or to point out all the admissions of them being behind the Sandy Hook case.
Alex is prepared.
This is supposed to be a revealing special report, so you'd expect that information to be here, especially when he's talking about the PR firms.
Instead, as he's talking, Alex flashes up on screen a series of headlines.
One is from the Washington Post on November 17, 2016, notably after the 2016 election.
With the headline, quote, How Alex Jones conspiracy theorist extraordinaire got Donald Trump's ear.
This article doesn't back up any of Alex's claims.
It's just an article about how Donald Trump was on Alex's show.
Then there's another headline from The New Yorker from June 23rd, 2016, quote, Donald Trump and the amazing Alex Jones.
These are both articles about how ridiculous it was that Trump went on Infowars, but none of it backs up the claims Alex is making.
And, like, Alex even said that he and Trump have, like, a...
Psychic meld of some sort.
So, like, he's the one who was saying that kind of shit.
So far, he's proved that two outlets ran op-eds about how Trump went on his show.
This is serious stuff that he's presenting here.
These memes!
Then there are short images of people talking about Alex on MSNBC, John Oliver, Fox, CNN, and Colbert.
None of these instances of coverage indicate these people were accusing Alex of sending people to Sandy Hook, nor does it show that there was coverage of him every day.
Most of it appears to be from about the time when he was kicked off social media and them covering that story.
So far, nothing has been proven, and Alex has fully convinced me that maybe he doesn't have as solid a grounding for a lot of these claims as he's making.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it makes me think, I'm trying to figure out, think about, okay, put yourself in different historical periods, right?
So right now, we've got our memes about fucking hipster center.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, then you go back, like, go back to, like, 1750.
Go back to 1750, and you got those political cartoons where it's like a hunky fucking horse or whatever.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like...
Which one would you prefer?
Would you prefer to be the guy who's complaining about, oh, the CIA's getting me because of this meme about the hipster senator, or would you want to be the guy who's like, I didn't fuck that horse!
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't want to be either, but I don't want to be now for sure.
I know that.
So look, these PR firms, which Alex still has not specified, they're making stunning admissions.
jordan holmes
They've got an awful lot of power.
For being able to put hundreds of programs.
Every day.
Programs.
And yet no name.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
We might get a name later.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But for now, they're making stunning admissions.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And what's amazing now is the PR firms themselves are bragging how they did this.
unidentified
Do you have any people being paid by the CIA who are contributing?
to a major circulation American journal.
We do have people who submit pieces to American journalists.
dan friesen
So this clip is from a House Intelligence Committee hearing from 1975.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, I'm fairly good with audio.
unidentified
But Alex was one year old.
dan friesen
So this is a stunning admission that they're making now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When's Truman going to announce aliens are real?
dan friesen
So what else do we got?
He just plays a bunch of clips.
These are good evidence of these admissions that these PR firms are making.
unidentified
When we, the CIA, wanted to circulate disinformation on a particular issue, disinformation is not necessarily a lie.
It may be a half-truth.
And we would pick out a journalist.
I would go do the briefing and hope that he would put the information in print.
dan friesen
So this is a video of an interview with a man named Frank Snepp, who was a CIA analyst from 1968 to 1976, working on matters related to North Vietnam.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
This is a video from 1983, when Alex was nine years old.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So I don't know if these are stunning admissions that are being made by these PR firms now.
jordan holmes
I get it.
I get what you're doing.
I don't know how you could, like, I'm on your team, CIA.
Bad.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Sure.
I don't understand how you could play these clips and then be like, see, this is all about me.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
That's a talent.
dan friesen
And it continues.
unidentified
This analysis that we made of the CIA's media operations disclosed, among other things, that they deliver through CIA couriers ready to print or ready to broadcast.
dan friesen
So this is a video from a show called Alternative Views from 1982.
All of these clips were also featured mysteriously on an episode of Jesse Waters' Fox show from May 2nd, 2023.
unidentified
So I think Alex just corralled them all from there.
dan friesen
So Alex's big special report is comprised mostly of 40 or more year old clips that he took from a year old episode of Jesse Waters' show.
This is bad.
I mean, it's just not.
I don't know.
I'm not convinced.
This is supposed to be the stunning admissions of these PR firms now, in the present day.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, you just don't see that attention to detail and the professionalism anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, this is just a year-old thing from Jesse Waters.
There's better shit to steal from, right?
dan friesen
No, I mean, this is pretty simple, though.
I mean, there were all those clips that were there, and they all are sort of about the CIA influencing media and stuff, so, you know.
jordan holmes
Here's what amazes me.
It's fair.
Because this is the thing that you and I are never going to be able to experience, right?
Somebody...
They got that clip and didn't go, oh no, I have to keep working.
They got excited.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because they were done.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They were done with work for the day.
dan friesen
Because they watched that Jesse Waters show.
jordan holmes
They saw that one show.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And they were like, whoa!
Hooray!
They were not disappointed.
They were not like, is this all there is for me?
dan friesen
No, we can use this.
jordan holmes
Nope.
We'll never understand that.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back after this compilation of old clips and has this to say.
alex jones
So in a quick summation, here's how it works.
Trump is winning in the polls.
Nothing they were doing against him was working.
So they go in, focus on Alex Jones, lie about what I've said and done, claim I'm attacking families of dead children, put it all over the news, and then claim that Trump is directing it, and then file lawsuits against me, get all the discovery.
Find no evidence of what they were claiming, and then they had judges in Austin, Texas, and in Connecticut rule that I was defaulted, so I was already guilty.
dan friesen
So this clip is unnotable, but it's just the standard stuff that you hear from Alex about his case.
However, while he's saying this stuff, he popped up on screen a headline that has the outlet that it's from cropped, but it reads, quote, Berlin Rosen's calm strategy behind Sandy Hook family's victory over Alex Jones.
This is from an outlet called PR Week from October 18, 2022.
The article does say that Berlin Rosen was a PR firm that worked with the families in the Connecticut case.
It doesn't do anything to prove that they're the CIA or that they're behind the suit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But this is clearly who Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they flashed that up on screen.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And so now we know that it's Berlin Rosen is the name of the PR firm that Alex is accusing of being behind everything, planting literally all of these stories, creating a fake Alex Jones in order for him to be persecuted.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So they're the ones.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And this article, I mean, it does say that they worked with the families and the lawyers and stuff.
But like one of the quotes from the EVP of legal affairs, Andrew Friedman, he said, quote, Jones plunged three of his companies into bankruptcy a matter of weeks before the trial was supposed to start.
A lot of our work was helping reporters see that for the legal tactic that it was his umpteenth attempt to delay facing these families in court.
So it's kind of, you know, I don't know if I...
Buy Alex's version of it based on this.
And I think that if you were somebody who was suing Alex, crisis PR would be something that you would involve.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm unconvinced.
But also the accusation is pretty clear.
Although Alex never says their name.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
It just flashes this up on screen twice.
jordan holmes
That's the thing that's weird.
Why would you do that?
Because clearly you're not saying their name because there's one thing that you have learned, which is that if you defame this particular group of people and those in their orbit, you're going to get fucked with, right?
So he's not saying their name.
dan friesen
I imagine there might be a hope that you keep this disconnected enough that...
jordan holmes
He just did it.
He just revealed who it was.
dan friesen
I mean, it's pretty clear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
From any observer.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That, you know, I mean, it's quite an accusation that Alex makes against them, too.
jordan holmes
That they have complete control over the entirety of the United States media?
Including all of North America, why not?
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
So I guess...
jordan holmes
We should get in with them, I suppose.
dan friesen
I'm fine.
jordan holmes
They could push us over the top.
dan friesen
I imagine.
jordan holmes
Because they control the entirety of the United States media.
dan friesen
I wonder if we all just live in a Berlin-Rosen world.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that would be interesting.
dan friesen
So speaking of not saying people's names, Alex might have run afoul of that a tiny bit.
jordan holmes
A few times.
dan friesen
Well, and especially in this next clip.
Because he is trying to prove that the FBI was behind the suit.
And the way he does that is by talking about William Aldenberg, who is the FBI agent who is one of the people who sued him.
And so he starts...
jordan holmes
Really?
Going to bring him up?
dan friesen
Quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Wow!
alex jones
Let's look at the open evidence of the FBI being involved in my targeting from day one.
First, let's look at William Aldenberg.
He was already a senior FBI agent in Connecticut when Sandy Hook happened.
He reportedly responded to the tragedy.
William Aldenberg was already a senior agent when Sandy Hook happened, but shortly after, he was made the head FBI agent lawyer in the state of Connecticut.
unidentified
In January, did you assume a new position?
I was put into a position they called Chief Division Counsel, which is the head attorney for that FBI division.
You give legal counsel to the leadership of the division.
I was put in that position temporarily, and then about a month later, I was appointed to that position.
So you were the top lawyer providing advice to the FBI in Connecticut?
alex jones
The first time I ever heard of William Aldenburg was when I was sued in Connecticut for questioning Sandy Hook.
And Mr. Aldenberg was actually asked on the stand, has Mr. Jones ever said your name?
Has his crew ever talked about you?
Have you ever been on his website?
And he said no.
unidentified
How many times did Jones call you?
He didn't call me, sir.
Did you ever see this photograph, 289, on InfoWars?
I didn't know, sir.
Do you know whether he ever talked about you on InfoWars?
I don't know.
alex jones
And here he is admitting...
That he went to the Costco firm, and that they developed this system, and that they filed this lawsuit, and that they came after me, and I've never even said his name, never even talked about him, didn't even know who he was.
How can something like this happen in America?
How can we be denied a real trial where we're innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven how guilty?
unidentified
When's the first time you watched a video of Mr. Halbig on Mr. Jones' show?
I would be guessing, sir, I would say approximately like 2016.
Where were you when you saw that?
I was sitting in my office on the second floor at FBI New Haven.
norm pattis
You didn't file suit at that point in 2016?
unidentified
No, at that point I couldn't get anybody to help me.
You were looking?
I was, by then I'm pretty certain by 2016 I had contacted...
The Agents Association, I had been looking for people.
I had been asking the U.S. Attorney's Office to help me.
I had been asking the FBI New Haven to help me.
So, yes, I was looking for help.
And then finally, you know, the only person to ever even listen was Mr. Koskoff.
He's, you know, he was a gentleman gracious enough to listen to me, and that's why we're here.
jordan holmes
Is there going to be a waiver?
alex jones
It's no mistake that the FBI consigliore, the head, I cannot believe that Alex thinks this is a good idea.
dan friesen
I can't believe that.
And I cannot believe that some lawyer that he has working for him wouldn't say, hey, this is probably really, at least super poor form.
And second...
This might get you in a whole bunch more trouble.
unidentified
I think that he might now...
dan friesen
I mean, he's definitely saying this guy's name now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's definitely accusing him of being the FBI consigliore who's connecting a conspiracy in order to persecute him and overthrow the First Amendment and all this other shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, this seems like defamation on its own again.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And also weird.
Weird within universe.
Because if I understand correctly, if Alex is playing that last clip in particular, that means that this guy went to the deep state first, and they said no.
unidentified
That's true.
jordan holmes
His very first piece of evidence is, I tried to get the deep state to do it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that is inconvenient to the entire argument that Alex is making, but I certainly...
Think he's on thin ice.
This is thin fucking ice.
jordan holmes
See, this is, that's again, that's another one of those things where it must just be like, listen, the writing's on the wall.
Why would I care?
Yeah.
Sue me.
Join the club.
Oh, no, I've got another $1.5 billion judgment against me?
Like, anybody's gonna get the first $1.5 billion judgment against me?
dan friesen
I mean, I guess.
jordan holmes
Like, that is kind of the interesting part.
dan friesen
That's fucking disgusting.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, well, I mean, that's essentially what we're dealing with now, is once you have tried to destroy a man monetarily and failed, there is no other recourse but criminal, and if it's not criminal, he can fuck with you all he wants.
And there's nothing you can do to stop him.
dan friesen
I guess we'll see on that front.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex is established in the special report, and I use established loosely, that they were trying to smear Trump by associating Trump with Alex, and now they're doing it in Canada!
alex jones
They're now doing the same thing in Canada with Pierre Polyev, who is leading by massive numbers against Trudeau in the race to be the leader of Canada right now, claiming that secretly he gets talking points from me and that I'm running the Conservative Party in Canada.
They're running the exact same playbook they ran in 2016 against Trump, against the Conservatives in Canada.
History is repeating itself again.
Take a flamboyant individual like Alex Jones, take what he said out of context, totally make stuff up, rig court trials against him, and then set the precedent to take down whoever you want, whenever you want, however you want.
And I knew that the deep state was running this going back six, seven years ago because I wasn't that important.
Thousands of news articles, hundreds of national TV programs lying about me.
I knew they were setting the precedent to deplatform me, to use lawfare to try to shut us down, to set the precedent for others.
That was obvious.
This was a level of propaganda you only see before the U.S. invades a country.
dan friesen
So what does Alex mean that he wasn't that important?
Like, he's supposed to be God's selected warrior designed in the womb to fight the literal devil.
Like, according to his own lore, Alex is supposed to be literally one of the most important people who has ever lived, and only...
He's one of the few people on Earth who can see the demons that walk among us.
Even if you take that stuff out of it, he was still bragging that his audience was like a billion people before he got sued, so by no estimation could you imagine that he would think he wasn't that important.
It's ridiculous.
Also, this stuff about Canada is really funny because Alex recorded this before today's show.
And on today's show, he had to be all wishy-washy about Pierre-Paul LaFerre because he was talking with Viva Frye.
See, that's the thing.
jordan holmes
For Alex, Canada shouldn't exist, right?
Like, Canada itself should just not exist.
Alex should just be confused and be like, I don't know what they do up there.
You know, like that.
Because you can pick, like, Hungary and Victor Horvath, because nobody's going to actually, like, know what's going on in Hungary.
They don't get the information out to us, and most people here don't look for it.
But Canada, you know somebody from Canada, and they'll be like, hey, fucking, this guy's crazy, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, and you also have, you know, like, Viva Fry is somebody who's Canadian who comes on the show.
You don't have, like...
Your lawyer isn't co-hosting a show with a Hungarian lawyer.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So he's going to have his own weird conservative ideas about how Pierre Poliver isn't far right enough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You're going to have your purity test there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because you're never going to understand.
Alex will never understand Canada.
Like, just a blanket.
dan friesen
Not sure what he does understand.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Well, that's a better point, maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Never mind.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip from Alex's special report.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And, man, just, I mean, disgrace is a word.
unidentified
It's a word.
alex jones
Most people that buy this propaganda actually think I killed the kids.
They don't even know it was Adam Lanza.
When I do get confronted by people that buy into the HBO documentaries and the rest of it, they walk up to me.
And say, how dare you do what you did to those kids?
I had a woman just three days ago walk up to me and say, how dare you urinate on their graves?
And I looked at her and I said, are you crazy, lady?
Did you ever see any proof of anybody urinating on a grave?
And she just said, F you and your family and walked off.
But here's the good news.
For every time that happens, I shake thousands of hands and get people's support.
And the majority of people see through this garbage.
So incredibly sad to see that they've fallen under the control of this.
So I'm going to end this with a clip of Madeline Albright on 60 Minutes.
dan friesen
Okay.
Sure.
Why not?
jordan holmes
Okay.
See what I'm saying?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Just can't.
Bring back the stocks.
Bring them back.
I'll get some tomatoes.
dan friesen
We'll make a day of it.
Nobody thinks that Alex killed the kids.
This is a ridiculous and offensive version of the story for him to be telling.
And, I mean, honestly, when I take a step back, I look at this, and a lot of the evidence that Alex put forth was...
Clips that he found on Jesse Waters' show from like 40 years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's no real evidence of anything that he's saying.
He's re-editing even the clips from the undercover video.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the parting shot...
Is about how much people love him in Hawaii.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that's really the biggest story for him, is how much people like him, and how one lady on the beach was mad at him.
unidentified
It's like, what else does he have to cling to, honestly?
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Viva Frye is going to be his friend?
No.
dan friesen
Well, for now.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So I do think that he's on real thin ice with the William Aldenberg business.
I think he's really thin ice with the Berlin Rosen business.
Jesus.
But...
jordan holmes
I mean, you know those movies?
I love those movies where in the end they're like, ah, there's no reason to be mad.
There's no reason to get angry at this person.
Look at what life has done to them.
Nothing you do could be worse than what...
And I look at Alex and I truly see, like, there is no way that I could ever feel the level of displeased and miserable.
That he must feel.
dan friesen
You think that.
jordan holmes
You think that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But there's another part of me that says, I will still fight him.
I don't care.
I don't need that moral victory.
I'll take the physical one also.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
If I can only have one or the other, I'm just saying.
I'll take them both.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know if I take either.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
Fucking unreal this man is talking.
dan friesen
It is.
Jesus Christ.
I mean, and this was...
You know, I was excited to see the put-together special report of all the evidence, and it's just a...
jordan holmes
Jesse Waters show.
dan friesen
I mean, it just kind of falls flat.
And I don't know what I should have been expecting other than that.
But yeah, so I guess it's all fine, though, because there's other news to get preoccupied with.
I guess there's also other whistleblowers.
jordan holmes
I guess there is.
There's only one whistleblower I want, and that is the person who is looking for stuff to prove what Alex says and then just saw the Jesse Waters episode and called it a night.
I want a whistleblower from that person to explain to me what they did for the rest of the day.
I want a full explanation.
dan friesen
Here's the only whistleblower I want.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The ref.
Come in and shut this down.
jordan holmes
Shut it all down.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Tower of Babel style.
Everybody go to your corner.
unidentified
Blow the whistle.
jordan holmes
Go to your corner.
dan friesen
Technical foul.
Fuck this.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back with another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgeright.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Blue Sky.
jordan holmes
We are on Blue Sky.
It's knowledgeright.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neil.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the Mysterious Professor.
jordan holmes
Woo!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
dan friesen
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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