#919: April 15, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan tune in for Alex's unfortunately underwhelming 30th anniversary show, featuring superstar guests like someone who put up a sign in New Zealand.
April 19, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
01:11:40
Participants
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| Speaker | Time | Text |
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| Knowledge Fight. | ||
|
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
|
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
|
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Hey, Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot. | ||
| Actually, why don't you go first? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think I have two bright spots. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| First one, you got a taste of it. | ||
| Or not yet. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I touched it. | ||
| My wife and I made some nice little golden graham s'mores, rice crispy treat kind of things. | ||
| Delicious. | ||
|
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Nice. | |
| Too good. | ||
| Which is why you have a lot compared to... | ||
| Because otherwise you just eat them all. | ||
| Oh my god, they're too good. | ||
| Well, I'll probably eat all of them tonight. | ||
| I would imagine so. | ||
| Honestly, this isn't going to last. | ||
| Seriously, they're good. | ||
|
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Stop it. | |
| I appreciate it. | ||
| You are welcome. | ||
| And two, I don't know if you've been paying attention. | ||
| Did you know that there's rap fights going on again? | ||
| I've seen a few tweets about people fighting. | ||
| I think Drake's fighting with somebody. | ||
| Yeah, Drake and Kendrick are fighting, which I think is hilarious. | ||
| It's very quaint. | ||
| What's the deal? | ||
| Okay, so if I understand the deal, well, first off, I think everybody was just bored because that's really what's going on. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's a good publicity kind of thing. | ||
| No, I think Cole rapped something like... | ||
| Me, Drake, and Kendrick were all really good. | ||
| You know, essentially. | ||
| And then Drake heard about it and was like, no, I'm good. | ||
| And then everybody else was like, well, that's not nice. | ||
| And so here we are. | ||
| But you know what I realized? | ||
| Because we were just talking about things 20 years ago. | ||
| What I realized is that this is Mostef and Talib's crowning achievement. | ||
|
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This is not a very violent fight at all! | |
| You mean that they have made rap beef non-violent? | ||
| Definition did it! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| One, two, three. | ||
| It's kind of dangerous. | ||
| Not anymore! | ||
| I say to most of it. | ||
| And they did that. | ||
| They did it! | ||
| I think they did it by themselves with that track. | ||
| Okay, so Blackstar settled everything. | ||
| I think they did. | ||
| It took a while. | ||
| It took a while. | ||
| And some people, in the meantime, probably have not done too well. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think there have been some violence. | ||
| There's been some plenty. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| I've not followed this too closely, but like... | ||
| I have seen some tweets, and I do think that beef in the age of social media is strange. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| Can you imagine Drake having beef with Biggie or something? | ||
| Like fucking Degrassi. | ||
| You think Degrassi's going to show up at a Biggie party and be okay? | ||
| You know who you'd have beef with? | ||
| Rick. | ||
| The guy who shot up the school in Degrassi. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| I actually, I was thinking about this just the other day. | ||
| Maybe it's because I'd seen tweets about Drake. | ||
| Yeah, it could be. | ||
| But I was like, I seem to remember they did a Degrassi reunion in a Drake music video. | ||
| And they did. | ||
| Okay, well then you then cannot be in a quote-unquote beef with the greatest rapper alive. | ||
| They did a Degrassi reunion in Drake's video for I'm Upset. | ||
| And it's bizarre. | ||
| Because I was watching it, and I'm like, yeah, alright, Craig, Manny, Emma, this makes sense. | ||
| Spinner, all of this is cool. | ||
| Jay and Silent Bob show up because they're selling weed to Snake. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| All of this is fine. | ||
| For some reason, Rick, the guy who shot up the school, is in the music video. | ||
| In-universe, he's dead. | ||
| I was gonna say, is he a ghost in this scenario? | ||
| I think he's in it just to be chased down a hallway. | ||
| Okay, that makes sense. | ||
| Because he and Drake would have had beef. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I don't understand why he's in the video to get with it. | ||
| It's very bizarre. | ||
| I'm gonna throw this out. | ||
| That got me way off guard. | ||
| Force ghost. | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| Anakin Skywalker. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| Just because he was Vader doesn't mean he can't come back to have a moment. | ||
| I also feel like I think the other guy who got murdered on the show wasn't in it. | ||
| JT. | ||
| I don't think he's in the music video. | ||
| I'm amazed how often we just all accept that high schools have a lot of murder plots on TV. | ||
| All these kids murdering people. | ||
| Well, to be fair, one was a school shooting and the other was a straight up. | ||
| It's hard to say if they meant to murder JT. | ||
| So, my bright spot. | ||
| What's your bright spot, buddy? | ||
| There's very rarely anything that I'm straight up looking forward to. | ||
| Yes, I know. | ||
| I've been working on that for a long time. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, you've made some suggestions, but they're futile. | ||
| But there's things in life, you go on, you move about your day. | ||
| But, Friday. | ||
| There is an event that is happening that I'm so excited about. | ||
| The best podcast, as far as I'm concerned, is Hey Randy, Tim Baltz's podcast with Mary Soane and Lily Sullivan. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| I think it's so funny. | ||
| And for a long time, they've been joking about an in-universe event called Twisted Fest. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| But it's just like all kinds of stupid shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's like the festival that all your hometown buddies would go to. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Camp out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get high in the woods or whatever. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| And they just joked about it. | ||
| You kind of got the sense, like, they're probably going to have to pay this off eventually. | ||
| And so they're doing a live thing in L.A. of Twisted Fest, which is... | ||
| Are you flying to LA tomorrow? | ||
| No, but if I had found out about it early enough... | ||
| You might have gone? | ||
| I still don't think I could afford it or really pull it off. | ||
| But if there's anything that I would have flown just for an event, this is probably it. | ||
| This is going to be fantastic. | ||
| I'm very excited about it. | ||
| It's going to be real dumb. | ||
| Yeah, you know, that is sometimes the thing about generally eschewing money is sometimes it could really come in handy for doing stuff you want to do. | ||
| If I had a private jet? | ||
| Yeah, if we had all that, if we used money for evil, we could do stuff like that, right? | ||
| That's how the people with the evil do it, right? | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, so I'm going to be squarely planted for the live stream. | ||
| You're going to be glued to your chair watching the live stream? | ||
| Yeah, very excited about that. | ||
| That's awesome! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's really fun. | ||
| Wish I could have made it, but oh well. | ||
| Well, you know, I wish now that would have been my, you know, I don't know. | ||
| You got flight time tomorrow? | ||
| What time do you need to go? | ||
| I think it's sold out. | ||
| It's a small theater. | ||
| Weak. | ||
| I'll send a phone call. | ||
| They'll give you a special guest spot, buddy. | ||
| You need a spot! | ||
| I appreciate the thought of your kindness, but no, I'm just excited. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're going to be talking about a very special day in Alex's career. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| That is April 15th, 2024. | ||
| Oh, that's not that special. | ||
| An anniversary of sorts. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| We'll get down to business on exactly what I'm talking about there. | ||
| But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Jordan, I must inform you that the German show where people cut things exactly in half is in fact fake. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You got tricked by fake news. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| Of a German TV show. | ||
|
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What are you going to do? | |
| Why not? | ||
| Next, I'm going to go see Knowledge Fight in Milwaukee in about 45 days. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're not a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I didn't realize that was a, I'm going to go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Until too late. | ||
|
unidentified
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Yep. | |
| And reporting live from fascist occupied Indiana, a fan of you two, a fan of two years, proud to finally become a wonk. | ||
| Your turn, Raymond. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're not a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy one. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And we've got a couple of technocrates in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So thank you so much, too. | ||
| Now you knew our Yow Wallace E. Ponk. | ||
| And to my daughter and fellow Wonk Callie, she was born with congenital heart disease and has been living with it for 30 plus years. | ||
| She's about to start the transplant path And through the Facebook group, we met Len, another CHD adult. | ||
| Good to know the community there is so diverse and welcoming. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are both now technocrats. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken over here! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not gonna do it. | ||
| Can't. | ||
| So, in the interest of being better, I should actually say, before we start this episode, that I have a couple of corrections that I need to make. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| One instance on the last episode, I misspoke, and then the other, I just got something wrong. | ||
| Oh, interesting! | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So, the first thing, I misspoke. | ||
| I said that Biden re-signed the Iran deal. | ||
| And what I meant was that he unfroze that money, and I just... | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I bungled that, and I apologize. | ||
| I definitely was wrong. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| But the thing I was actually wrong about and didn't realize was Ken Paxton, I said that his trial was starting on Monday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it turns out that at the end of March, he cut a deal. | ||
| So they made a deal to avert that trial. | ||
| He had to pay $300,000 in restitution, take some classes, and do 100 hours of community service. | ||
| But I had gotten an old article, and so I whiffed that. | ||
| Here's what I like about that. | ||
| Here's what I like about that. | ||
| When the Attorney General... | ||
| Clearly shows off how you can flout the fucking law. | ||
| Everybody should just be like, okay, fine, we're done here. | ||
| We're done here. | ||
| The law isn't real. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| How would you... | ||
| How dare you get... | ||
| You get into trial with Attorney General Ken Paxton and not be like, fuck off, and then leave the courtroom. | ||
| Fuck off, and then leave the courtroom. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, anyway, I apologize. | ||
| I got that off. | ||
| It's all right. | ||
| We'll move forward. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| So like I said, it's an anniversary. | ||
| It's a very special anniversary. | ||
| It is the 30th anniversary of Alex's career beginning on air. | ||
| Because that's what Access TV in its heyday on basic cable in Austin. | ||
| Everybody watched it. | ||
| It was super popular. | ||
| Yeah, so he's mentioned that he's been on air for 30 years today, and he starts reflecting sort of on the local Access days. | ||
| And, of course, you always wanted a show at 6, 7, 8 at night. | ||
| We combine hour-long shows. | ||
| You get an hour a couple times a week. | ||
| We combine them together, do three, four, five-hour blocks, do special shows. | ||
| And it would show up in the ratings, the local ratings. | ||
| Sometimes my show showed up one time number two in the ratings after UT football. | ||
| That was quite the freak out in the newspapers at the time wrote about it. | ||
| But it was basically cameras in a control room and a three-phone line phone box with no delay. | ||
| And there was no FCC rules on it. | ||
| It was community access, so it was a lot of... | ||
| A lot of crazy callers, a lot of cussing, a lot of people calling in death-threading. | ||
| It was very, very interesting, to say the least, but we would certainly have a lot of fun. | ||
| And so that was kind of the little pond in which this tadpole swam around. | ||
| That's before the Internet as we know it, before... | ||
| I guess chat rooms were coming along at that time, but really no video online. | ||
| A few years later it came along. | ||
| And so thank God for Access TV because that allowed me to develop basic talk radio skills so I could then get a job and talk radio a few years later, then get syndicated a few years later. | ||
| Here we are today. | ||
| What a boring retelling of something that's probably the most awesome time ever. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that's such an exciting time. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Especially for him. | ||
| Especially where we are now. | ||
| Shouldn't you be going whole hot, like, oh, we were... | ||
| Those were the days. | ||
| We were laid up night trying to think of ways to go viral before it was even viral, you know? | ||
| And you kind of get the sense of, like, that being a little bit of his mood with, like, you know, we put our blocks of time together and we got into the ratings, but it's just, there's not a lot of energy behind this. | ||
| But yeah, he's been on air 30 years. | ||
| They end up cheersing some champagne at the end of the show. | ||
| Ooh, that's not the way to do it. | ||
| But Alex repeatedly is like, I don't want to have champagne. | ||
| It'll make me sleepy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Throughout the show. | ||
| He's not used to the bubbles. | ||
| Give me some apple juice. | ||
| Yeah, his liquor is usually flat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I just thought, you know, 30 years on air is... | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| That is nuts. | ||
| Especially for him, somebody who threatens to quit constantly. | ||
| Someone who looks like they're about to be forced to quit constantly. | ||
| And you really think about how many of these things that happened in his life were probably bizarre coincidences that have allowed him to make it 30 years. | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| I would say he's not unlike... | ||
| A combination of the Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote at the same time. | ||
| Wile E. in that he gets into very ridiculous hijinks. | ||
| And the Roadrunner that he seems to get away every fucking time! | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, obviously I think the great coincidence is maybe not the right word, but, like, if he hadn't have found Ted Anderson, his career would have been... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he would have been an incredibly talented, yelly weirdo. | ||
| But unemployable in radio during the years when he would have needed to be on radio in order to create his career. | ||
| He wouldn't have been able to weather that time period to get to the point where the internet is available to game and do Google bombs and stuff like that to drive absurd traffic to you. | ||
| He wouldn't have been able to do that if he didn't have essentially no boss. | ||
| It is a lot like... | ||
| Because of where he was and the time that he was at, he was so perfectly placed to take advantage of the opportunity when it arose. | ||
| It's so much like, you know, whenever they look at the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs shit and all that, and they're like, ah, these guys were so far ahead of time. | ||
| They're like, ten people had access to computers, they were two of them. | ||
| Dumb. | ||
| That's how we got here, you know? | ||
| Like, that was it. | ||
| If you had access at that point in time, that was when you needed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex was the same way. | ||
| He had a desperate gold... | ||
| Like a sale dude who needed a mouthpiece. | ||
| Just needed it. | ||
| And a bunch of radio stations he had access to through that. | ||
| If he had to go the normal path of Rush or compete against those people, it would have been a disaster. | ||
| He would have fired from every station you ever worked at, I'm sure. | ||
| But hey, I don't want to do this sour grapes thing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If this hadn't happened, he wouldn't have had a career. | ||
| It did happen, and he did. | ||
| So I don't want to take that away. | ||
| But it is just bizarre to think of that. | ||
| Three decades. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| What's amazing about that, because this is what I think of whenever you say, oh, what is the world where he tries to come up regular? | ||
| If he tries to come up in the world that he's in... | ||
| He's killed. | ||
| He's squashed immediately. | ||
| He can't be Owen Troyer because if the boss sees Alex as the second banana, they go, we gotta get rid of you, man. | ||
| You're too much. | ||
| You've got too much energy. | ||
| You've got too much charisma. | ||
| Like if Alex showed up in 2024 at InfoWars as himself at 20. Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He'd be like, we gotta strangle this guy before he steals my job. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's trying to take over. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As Alex... | ||
| Try to with public access. | ||
| Absolutely, yes. | ||
| Anyway, Alex has had a bit of, obviously, since Iran sent those drones at Israel, ever since then, it's been, is this going to be World War III? | ||
| A lot of excitement surrounding that, about Israel retaliating. | ||
| A lot of excitement. | ||
| Well, for Alex, it's World War III kind of stuff, and he seems to talk about that a lot. | ||
| So when you talk about a subject like this, it's important to consult experts and get opinions of people who know a lot of stuff. | ||
| And that's why Alex consults a random person from Twitter. | ||
| Okay, this is J.D. Sharp. | ||
| He's a really smart guy. | ||
| He's sharp. | ||
| I want to get him on the show to give his take on the situation, but I couldn't say it any better. | ||
| It's short and sweet. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Iran just attacked Israel. | ||
| Here's what's going to happen if the United States gets involved in this conflict. | ||
| Our border has been wide open for three years. | ||
| At least eight million people have walked across our border in the last three years. | ||
| Thousands of them are jihadists, actual terrorists that have formed cells here in the United States of America, and they are just waiting for us. | ||
| To get involved in a conflict on behalf of Israel, with Iran, with Jordan, with anyone that decides to back them. | ||
| Once they do, we're going to deal with a mass casualty terrorist attack on U.S. soil. | ||
| And that attack will be used to cancel the 2024 presidential election to enlist probably half a million. | ||
| Illegals into our military, many of which will have allegiance to different countries. | ||
| And obviously start World War III. | ||
| That is what happens if we get involved between Israel and Iran. | ||
| And it sounds like Biden wants to. | ||
| And obviously we'll have a draft as well. | ||
| Gen Z, you're going to get what you asked for. | ||
| You're going to be fighting overseas. | ||
| Our veterans. | ||
| We'll be declared active duty. | ||
| The ones that are retired will be brought back in active duty. | ||
| They'll be sent overseas. | ||
| And if an election does take place, they probably will refuse to give power to Donald Trump. | ||
| The United States of America is in one of the most precarious spots that we have been in in the last 200 years. | ||
| We cannot get involved in this war between Iran and Israel. | ||
| It will result... | ||
| In a mass casualty event on U.S. soil, we will recruit half a million, at least, illegals into our military, and it will result in World War III. | ||
| Dead on. | ||
| Dead on. | ||
| The world is in chaos. | ||
| World War III is imminent. | ||
| Iran has attacked Israel. | ||
| We take you now to a guy recording himself in his car that I found on Twitter. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| Does he know a lot somehow? | ||
| No. | ||
| Is he in the military? | ||
| Nothing I know of. | ||
| Does he know plans? | ||
| He knows about what you heard. | ||
| And that's not great. | ||
| About what I heard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| That's not enough. | ||
|
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No. | |
| That's not enough. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| This, like I said. | ||
| I'm working on this basically new theory that this show is just Twitter now. | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| This is just Twitter. | ||
| And so why not? | ||
| Hey, if someone came across this video of a guy sitting in his car talking about Iran and Israel, why not play it? | ||
| He says it best. | ||
| Do you know, it's kind of funny to think about, but... | ||
| In a way, Elon set out to turn Twitter into InfoWars, so why wouldn't InfoWars just be like, finally, we've got our own platform! | ||
| Synergy. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| So, there's another person who said that World War III would begin... | ||
| Are they drafting people? | ||
| No. | ||
| Gen Z wants it, though. | ||
| I guess they do. | ||
| I guess they do. | ||
| There's another person who said that it would start on sort of similar... | ||
| And this is a strange person for Alex to bring up. | ||
| Now, here's William Cooper 30 years ago. | ||
| And by the way, when we posted an article about this, and I posted this on my X account Saturday, I saw a bunch of comments saying, you hate William Cooper. | ||
| Why are you promoting him? | ||
| That's a made-up fight. | ||
| I think William Cooper was really smart, really good on a lot of stuff. | ||
| He didn't like me at a certain point and got mad at me. | ||
| Because there's some edited tapes on Y2K out of context. | ||
| ABC News did report a missile was launched out of Russia. | ||
| I reported it. | ||
| And then they said it wasn't a missile. | ||
| It was a missile test. | ||
| And it turned into this whole thing. | ||
| Rest in peace, William Cooper. | ||
| So no one's accusing Alex of not liking Bill Cooper. | ||
| The issue is that Cooper hated Alex. | ||
| And it wasn't just about him sensationalizing a report on a missile on Y2K. | ||
| That's a convenient way for Alex to hand-wave things away, but Bill did multiple episodes of The Hour of the Time about how much Alex sucked. | ||
| He did three episodes about Alex's Y2K broadcast, and Alex is doing some serious minimizing of the criticism. | ||
| Then, on September 26th, 2001, in his ninth to last... | ||
| The last episode, Bill did a whole show about how Alex is a liar titled Alex Jones Liar. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Bill Cooper straight up hated Alex in the same way that Alex in 2001 would hate the present day version of himself. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| It seems very silly for Alex to be like, Bill Cooper called this. | ||
| It is one of those fun things of like... | ||
| He lionized this guy, hero-worshipped him for being the real version of what he wanted to be, but he was never the real version. | ||
| He was always the guy who wanted to make all the money, and now he's made all the money, and he's lost all the money, and he's like, man, it would have been cool if I had been the guy that I'd always wanted to be. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| And who's to say that, like, Bill Cooper wouldn't have had the same next chapter? | ||
| Because, I mean, like, he had... | ||
| I think he made that very clear, what his next chapter was going to be. | ||
| But he had, like... | ||
| Dr. Wallach and some of those other sponsors and stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, like, there is a chance that Bill Cooper, if he doesn't end up getting in a shootout with the police, if that didn't happen, I don't know necessarily if he doesn't have, like, I mean, obviously he's not as entertaining and bombastic as Alex. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But, like, he had a potential to have sold out in a weird way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He probably could have, too. | ||
| Yeah, that is the question. | ||
| You die of Bill Cooper or you live long enough to see yourself become Alex. | ||
| I could see the wheels turning in your head. | ||
| Eventually we're going to get there, man. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for helping. | ||
| So Alex plays this clip of Bill Cooper. | ||
| This is really important. | ||
| Listen to William Cooper. | ||
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What role in the Middle East again does Israel play in this? | |
| ...was created as the instrument to bring about the Battle of Armageddon and the fulfillment of prophecy, a war that will be so terrible, where nuclear weapons will be used, so that the American citizens and the other people in the world will get down on their knees and beg for no more war. | ||
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And what is the answer to that? | |
| They're going to be told the only way we can guarantee no more war is if we destroy the sovereignty of nations and we come together as one humanity in a one-world government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Read the book of Revelations. | ||
| Whether you believe in the book or not, read it because the men who are bringing this about are using it as their script. | ||
| It's not really in Alex's best interest to play clips of Bill Cooper, since they kind of illuminate how much of his schtick he stole from Bill. | ||
| This whole "even if you don't believe revelation, the globalists are using it as a playbook" thing is essentially just like it's a big piece of Alex's rhetoric, and here you have someone else espousing the same shit well before Alex. | ||
| And that guy got killed by the government! | ||
| So how could he not have more credibility for a conspiracy mind? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It seems like... | ||
| I wouldn't do this fire, Alex. | ||
| You know, what has he got to lose? | ||
| I think maybe... | ||
| Self-respect, I don't think that's counted. | ||
| Well, I think there's a possibility of his audience seeking out more shit that Bill Cooper put out. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Seeing, like, oh... | ||
| This guy's compatible. | ||
| I like this stuff. | ||
| And then, uh-oh, what's this episode? | ||
| Alex Jones, liar? | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| What if we had a whole Gen Z hipster movement of people who are like, ah, fuck Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm a Bill Cooper head. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm a Father Coughlin guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Go even further back. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Let's get weird. | ||
| Let's just get real weird with it. | ||
| So, Alex starts talking about some of the Masons stuff. | ||
| Sure, got it. | ||
| Because I think Bill Cooper set his mind off into thinking about mystery schools and what have you. | ||
| And I think he's off on a little bit of stuff. | ||
| And people then single out Masons, and I'm out here apologizing for Masons, and say they run it. | ||
| The average Mason is not involved in anything bad. | ||
| They're involved in community work, you name it. | ||
| George Washington was a Mason. | ||
| But if you type in George Washington's letters, On the Illuminati, they're in the National Archives. | ||
| There's like 15 of them at least that I've read. | ||
| And he talks about masonry's being taken over by the Illuminati out of France and Germany. | ||
| They're taking over our order and using it for global domination. | ||
| They're trying to take over our new country in America. | ||
| This is when he left the presidency. | ||
| We've got to stop him. | ||
| All Masons are was before Christianity and going back to Solomon, before that back to the Egyptians, you didn't just get to go to college. | ||
| They were called mystery schools, and they taught mathematics and farming and medicine, but also had a lot of occultic stuff in them because it predated Christianity and even predated Judaism. | ||
| And so then Masonry is a vestigial arm of the mystery schools, but there's the real... | ||
| Mystery schools that are behind that, and George Washington talked about it. | ||
| So people ask, how do I square up, to use one of their terms, George Washington being good, but then Adam Weishaupt's bad. | ||
| Well, George Washington was against Adam Weishaupt, and they launched their counter-revolution against what was launched in America, a counterfeit. | ||
| That's what the devil does. | ||
| And you look at the fruits of our republic, the whole world wants to get rid of the system we have and replace it with this one-world government system. | ||
| George Washington was against that. | ||
| Look up his writings on not being involved in foreign entanglements, but William Cooper was dead on about the mystery schools, and at the end of the day, it's a religious, spiritual war, and it's a dark, occultic, satanic force behind it. | ||
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| George Washington and William Russell, September 28, 1798, and that's just one of the letters on the Illuminati. | ||
| You can't make this up, folks. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You can't make it up. | ||
| So someone on Alex's staff just googled George Washington Illuminati letter, and this page on the Library of Congress came up with the headline, George Washington to William Russell, September 28th, 1798, which is a little bit after Washington left office. | ||
| The actual letter that's relevant is also on this same webpage, but it's to Reverend G.W. Snyder from September 25th, 1798. | ||
| Snyder had sent Washington a scary book about the Illuminati, and Washington replied, quote, I've heard much of the nefarious and dangerous plan and doctrines. | ||
| I believe, notwithstanding, that none of the lodges in this country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of the Illuminati. | ||
| It's a little different than the way Alex is presenting things, but hey, his version's more fun, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, I don't think he knows shit about mystery schools and the history of all that. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think he's winging a lot of this stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I bet he didn't even play Assassin's Creed Origins. | ||
| He probably is like, uh, Medji, it's Magi! | ||
| But it's fun. | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| George Washington's trying to root out the French Illuminati. | ||
| There's never a bad, you know, it's a lot like Assassin's Creed. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Three. | ||
| So we gotta pop some of that champagne, the good stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not talking Andre. | ||
| 3,000? | ||
| No, the cheap brand of champagne. | ||
| Oh, right, right, right. | ||
| Anyway, Alex wants to celebrate. | ||
| I almost feel like we ought to, you know, get some of that great champagne. | ||
| It's not real champagne. | ||
| I don't want to drink some champagne. | ||
| Well, I want to take a nap. | ||
| But maybe somebody should go to a liquor store and get some of the non-alcoholic grape or cherry or whatever flavors they've got or apple-flavored champagne. | ||
| They say it's not a real toast if it's not alcohol, but I don't want to drink some champagne right now. | ||
| I'm not a champagne guy, but we really should pop some champagne because this is the 30th anniversary today of the launch of my operations. | ||
| And it's incredible, and it wouldn't have happened without God working through all of you, so I'm very, very blessed and honored to be here, and I hope we have another 30 years. | ||
| Another 30 years, I'll be 80 years old, but man, life sure goes by fast, I gotta tell you. | ||
| Almost all those original talk show hosts that were anti-New World Order that I worked with 30 years ago on AXS TV are all dead. | ||
| Almost all of them are dead. | ||
| We're like Mike Hansen. | ||
| There were some other folks that are still alive. | ||
| They were mainly UFO guys. | ||
| And see, that's the thing. | ||
| I've never been a UFO guy. | ||
| I'm not attacking UFO folks. | ||
| That's not my bailiwick. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| SimfulWars.com. | ||
| Turns out being a UFO guy is good for your health. | ||
| Does seem that way. | ||
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All the old-timers are dead. | |
| The UFO-ers are like the people from Okinawa of the conspiracy theory community. | ||
| They just keep on going. | ||
| Everybody's wondering how. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I feel like there's a lot of alternative medicine-type stuff in Alex's community. | ||
| Maybe the longevity of some of these folks isn't great. | ||
| If you sell medical things, and then you note, all the people who take this stuff die young, it's probably not good. | ||
| If iodine is a cure-all, then, yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, Bill Cooper got killed. | ||
| Sure, that one was more self-inflicted. | ||
| I don't know, inflicted. | ||
| Trying to think of some of the other old-timers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Red Beckman. | ||
| How did he go? | ||
| Jack Blood. | ||
| I mean, I feel like most of them are more like... | ||
| Daryl Rundus. | ||
| Like coronaries, just because they just eat so poorly. | ||
| Bob Chapman. | ||
| He's dead. | ||
| Is Bob Chapman dead? | ||
| He has to be. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he's not on the show anymore. | ||
| Well, he could still be alive. | ||
| No, I'm pretty sure he's dead. | ||
| Is the, and I know this isn't quite the same thing. | ||
| G. Edward Griffin is still alive. | ||
| Is the limerick guy still okay? | ||
| Marty Schachter? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He was old back then. | ||
| You know what, though? | ||
| I think he might have been younger than you think. | ||
| Because I think saying limericks makes you seem old. | ||
| Makes you so old. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might have been like 35. Or he could have been 700. | ||
| Yeah, if you start talking in limericks, I'm going to assume you're a senior citizen. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| I've run across a couple of episodes with him in my travels preparing for the tour. | ||
| It's often not a limerick. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
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Just a series of words similar to a lyric in kind of a similar rhythmic pattern. | |
| Clunky. | ||
| Oof, that's brutal. | ||
| Yeah, I would have... | ||
| Oh, God, he's not a good poet. | ||
| So, most of this episode, Alex wants to take calls. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so we get some interesting perspective from some of the InfoWars universe, like this person. | ||
| Up next, let's talk to Bart in Georgia. | ||
| Bart, welcome. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Biden is pretending that the U.S. isn't going to get involved, but what is the endgame of everything the Biden regime is doing is to stop Trump. | ||
| And I believe Israel is trying to suck us into this conflict mutually. | ||
| I mean, Biden wants it. | ||
| I was going to say that before the show started. | ||
| I'm glad we took it. | ||
| Biden's acting like he's against this, but he's behind the scenes. | ||
| They are absolutely lockstep. | ||
| I totally agree. | ||
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And I think the Biden regime is hoping to provoke a major terrorist attack, preferably a nuclear attack. | |
| If New York City was nuclear. | ||
| I mean, they're going to cancel the election if Dallas gets nuked or, I mean, anywhere. | ||
| I just can't stand the preoccupation that these folks have that every single goddamn thing is just about Trump. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's so bizarre. | ||
| It's such a... | ||
| Tiny lens that they're viewing everything through. | ||
| How does this relate to the fears that I have about my chosen candidate? | ||
| Everything is just trying to foil Trump. | ||
| Think about how much money is spent getting people to believe that attacking Trump is attacking them. | ||
| Quite a bit. | ||
| You know, in the daily amount of money people spend, just like, oh, we're just going to do an ad buy on Fox News. | ||
| And that's like, they're coming for Trump, and that means it's your Wally. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| These people have a cosmic background radiation of like, if it's Trump, it's all of you, kind of thing. | ||
| And they can't, they, the globalists, can't afford for Trump to get in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, it's... | ||
| It's very sad to me. | ||
| I don't know what that headspace must look like, but it seems grim. | ||
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It does. | |
| Also, I think maybe the election would get canceled if the U.S. got nuked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think maybe that's true. | ||
| But also, I don't know if that would be that weird. | ||
| I mean, I'm going to tell you something. | ||
| I mean, it would be definitely very weird. | ||
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I think a lot of people... | |
| Look at nukes far more similar to the Nagasaki and far less similar to the years 2024. | ||
| If somebody nukes anywhere, we're all gone. | ||
| I mean, look, probably, but also, let's just for the sake of, you know, imagining things. | ||
| One nuke goes off. | ||
| One nuke goes off. | ||
| I think we're in a situation where... | ||
| Maybe the election's not that important right now. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| I think food will be heavily important at that point. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Seems strange. | ||
| Fresh water? | ||
| So, get a caller who has a point for Alex. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And this point is, hey, what if the people who are trying to bring about the end times are doing so because God told them to? | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| That's a tough argument. | ||
| It is. | ||
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Anyways, but my point, we're talking about Israel and everything, the Middle East and all that. | |
| And you always say that the people are trying to hurry and usher in the coming of Christ. | ||
| And I had a thought that, you know, who's to say that God hasn't called these people to do what they're doing, like he's called you and others to do what they're doing. | ||
| I mean, all I have to tell you is... | ||
| No man knows the hour of the time Christ comes like a thief in the night. | ||
| I'm not judging these people. | ||
| I'm just saying the globalists, the Rothschilds and others, have piggybacked on Revelation or trying to control it themselves. | ||
| It's like the movie Dune that's based on an excellent book by Frank Herbert, where they've had this secret society go and set up this cult on all the planets so when they want, they can have a messianic system to put their Messiah in. | ||
| But it backfires on them, and then the real Messiah comes. | ||
| So, I'm not saying... | ||
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Well, that's what's supposed to happen anyways, right? | |
| With the Antichrist and the Third Temple? | ||
| Well, I mean, I think that's what we're saying is that the first person that comes and says they're Christ is the Antichrist. | ||
| So, we're saying, obviously, the first one that shows up is not the real one, is what I'm saying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, it's like Dune. | ||
| It's like Dune, baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm starting to think maybe I need to watch this Dune. | ||
| I don't know anything about Dune. | ||
| I mean, we're going to get there. | ||
| It's clearly the most important thing. | ||
| Things keep coming back to Dune. | ||
| It seems more important than I thought. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So is Alex, would you say he's accurately conveying things? | ||
| No. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I like her. | ||
| Because she is asking one of those questions that is like, if that question gets you at the right time... | ||
| Your path in life is completely different. | ||
| But if that question happens to you when you're an adult, you're trapped. | ||
| There's no getting out, you know? | ||
| Well, I think that if Alex were to sincerely engage with this question, it's trouble. | ||
| It is trouble. | ||
| Because the only logic that he can use to defend his point works against his own point. | ||
| It's a... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Quicksand? | ||
| It's a rhetorical quicksand. | ||
| There's nothing you can do. | ||
| So anything you do is both God's plan and not God's plan at the exact same time. | ||
| It's like Dune. | ||
| Yeah, it's exactly like Dune. | ||
| Also, be terrible if... | ||
| He's saying the second Messiah is the right one. | ||
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Right. | |
| The first one shows up, we know he's no good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would suck if Alex is wrong about that. | ||
| He just thinks that the actual next coming is an antichrist. | ||
| Yeah, that would be... | ||
| Just because he's like, no, first one in, not going to believe it. | ||
| That's God's Shyamalan twist. | ||
| Actually, the first one was the Messiah. | ||
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Boom! | |
| You killed the wrong one! | ||
| Tribulation, baby! | ||
| I was gonna let you off the hook if you were nice to him. | ||
| It's very bizarre. | ||
| So Alex has a guest come in, and it's Pizzagate Jake Posobiec. | ||
| Great. | ||
| The king of crying at Comet Ping Pong Pizza. | ||
| It's so scary. | ||
| It's very scary. | ||
| It's very scary. | ||
| So he comes in. | ||
| I don't really give a shit, but this clip I thought was wild. | ||
| I would say to all the neocons out there, it's like my message to you guys. | ||
| Is to say, look, you think you could just go after Iran? | ||
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You don't even have the kind of military right now that could pull off something like that even if you wanted to. | |
| Not to mention the fact that Iran is not like Iraq. | ||
| Iran is not like Libya. | ||
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They've got a serious military. | |
| They've got two militaries, actually. | ||
| They've got essentially the Rocky Mountains in between Iraq and Syria and where Tehran and the leadership of the regime are. | ||
| So the idea that this would just be some walk in the park that you guys get to throw down on and say, oh, we're going to show how much we support Israel when you got, yeah, you got you got Marine second dig. | ||
| all over the place. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| No, this is not the kind of military that you'd want to be bringing to this type of war. | ||
| If we're going to do, let's look back on 30 years of stuff, I will say this to you. | ||
| If this type of person heard somebody say, Marines are sucking ding-dongs back then, this type of person would not be like, I agree with you. | ||
| This is a very big problem. | ||
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They would be like, how dare you speak ill of them? | |
| Maybe, but I think the homophobia would be quite welcome. | ||
| The homophobia was pretty huge back then, too. | ||
| It was right after Don't Ask, Don't Tell, so that's fair. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, this country's shit! | ||
| It's a strange kind of attack to take on the neocon warmongers. | ||
| Don't you realize that your army's too gay to fight Iraq? | ||
| Alright, first off, big important thing to point out. | ||
| Any analysis that begins with the geography and being able to control it is often the most important aspect of a fight. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Any analysis that's like, yeah, but too many people sucking ding-dongs? | ||
| Bad analysis. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| So there's been some news, though, about the Key Bridge in Baltimore. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And Alex brings this up to Posobiec. | ||
| New. | ||
| FBI opens criminal investigation into Key Bridge collapse there at the Port of Baltimore. | ||
| In Maryland, FBI investigating Baltimore's Key Bridge crash as a criminal operation. | ||
| Chinese cargo owners may face huge bill after Baltimore Bridge collision. | ||
| I don't want to just say everything is an attack, but I've looked at the numbers. | ||
| It's something like triple, the different associations say, in food processing and other facilities burning up and blowing up. | ||
| Is it just a rash of people cashing on insurance? | ||
| Or is it terrorists? | ||
| Is it environmental wackos? | ||
| You have Biden cutting off the pipelines. | ||
| You have all of these Extinction Rebellion groups sabotaging things, blocking trains, blocking highways. | ||
| But then suddenly, since this barge incident happened, there's been like 10 more. | ||
| I mean, so there's definitely an uptick. | ||
| So is total incompetence triggering? | ||
| So the crash is being investigated as a crime, but not as a terrorist crime. | ||
| Not like that. | ||
| Alex is misrepresenting the headline that he's reading, which is from an article about an investigation being launched into possible criminal negligence on the part of the boat's operators. | ||
| The question at hand is if they knew of any of the possible problems that would make the boat unseaworthy before they left port and chose to ignore them. | ||
| Also, that number of food processing facilities that are being burned up really seems to jump around a lot. | ||
| Alex was reporting that it was double the normal level a few weeks ago, but now it's triple. | ||
| It seems like a decent sign that he's just talking shit, maybe? | ||
| Exponential growth is usually a bad... | ||
| Yeah, and the reason it seems like that is because he's just talking shit. | ||
| What Alex is doing is exploiting a bias that all our minds have where once something is pointed out to us, we start to see more examples of that thing and then start to create connections between those things. | ||
| In reality, there are hundreds of food processing plant fires every year and have been forever. | ||
| largely due to insufficient enforcement of regulations and the fact that everything that's being processed is flammable and the processing itself uses heat most of the time. | ||
| But for the most part, people don't really notice that this is happening because a lot of the times the fires aren't very major. | ||
| And even if they are, it's pretty easy to understand how this works. | ||
| It's just a part of doing business. | ||
| But now, a major plotline of the right-wing media is that the globalists want to shut down the food supply. | ||
| This narrative rising up was driven by a number of variables, with the biggest probably being the supply chain crunch during COVID, disruption caused by Russia invading Ukraine, and a financial incentive rooted in most of these outlets being sponsored by emergency food bucket companies. | ||
| It's a lucrative fear narrative for the outlets like Alex's, so you've seen him jump on it and just wildly exaggerate everything for the sake of keeping it interesting. | ||
| He's doing this because he knows that there's a subconscious bias in the brain where he implants this idea, then when you're going about your life and you hear about his news story about a food plant fire, it'll connect to what he said and feel like confirmation of the underlying narrative that Alex has sold you. | ||
| It's almost a certainty that you'll eventually hear about The thing with the bridge is an almost identical game. | ||
| The specific situation that happened in Baltimore happens way more than we realize, because it never makes the news when a boat loses power temporarily but is able to navigate its way safely out to sea. | ||
| It never makes the news when a boat at sea loses power briefly and then continues course. | ||
| But after a major event, like a boat crashing into a bridge, you start to hear some of these stories because the media interest is high. | ||
| For instance, earlier this month, a cargo ship lost power near a bridge in New York, and there were a bunch of stories about it because it was similar to the situation in Baltimore. | ||
| Had the key bridge collapse not happened, that New York situation would still have happened, and you would not have heard about it. | ||
| This creates the perception that these events are happening more frequently than they did in the past, which is an erroneous perception, but it's one that Alex can exploit. | ||
| If you accept they're happening more frequently, there's got to be a reason, and Alex has narratives that play into selling you a reason for why that is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he knows what he's doing. | ||
| It's a cheap game. | ||
| Yeah, that's like laying out the bias, you know, that phenomenon that we all experience transitions something from being like, oh, this is nefarious into being like, can humans even stop themselves from doing this kind of thing? | ||
| I think if you sit everybody down one-on-one, alone, rationally, you can be like, here's why the media shouldn't do this. | ||
| And they go, now that you've explained it to me, I think that does make sense. | ||
| But if you're in the media, if you're in all the pressure of just like... | ||
| You gotta get clicks. | ||
| Everybody goes, well, we know that this news event happened and that means that people will click on this one. | ||
| So... | ||
| We're just gonna do it, you know? | ||
| It's like, nobody's being evil. | ||
| Right, and I think that even sometimes it's probably a well-placed intention. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Like, covering the bar, like a ship, that ship near the bridge in New York is probably like, oh, we're adding more information to people who are curious about the story in Baltimore. | ||
| You know, I don't know if... | ||
| I don't know what the answer is, honestly. | ||
| Yeah, no, because again, it's not a nefarious thing. | ||
| It's not malicious. | ||
| It's just part of who we as monkeys are, you know? | ||
| But I honestly think that it's kind of okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't think it's that harmful. | ||
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| Except when it's being exploited like Alex is doing. | ||
| Like, trying to get more clicks or whatever by being like, oh, there's another ship that went near a bridge. | ||
| I'm not sure if that's the... | ||
| I mean, obviously... | ||
| It's not ideal. | ||
| Maybe it's not the worst thing ever. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| I mean, there's way worse things. | ||
| But taking all of this and then being like, it must probably be sabotage and cyber attacks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| That's the part that I think is where you veer into territory where it's like, definitely nefarious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So I would say restraint, maybe. | ||
| Restraint is, again, the hardest thing for people to exercise, I suppose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know who did practice a lot of restraint? | ||
| Uh, Carter? | ||
| I'm guessing this. | ||
| People who are invited to be on Alex's 30th anniversary show. | ||
| Oh, did he? | ||
| Oh, they didn't call a bunch of people. | ||
| I don't know if they did. | ||
| I don't know if they did. | ||
| Oh, man, if they tried to do it, this is your life. | ||
| It would have been, they should have done something. | ||
| Like, had some big guests, some of the greats, Rogan, even. | ||
| Come on, it's your 30th fucking anniversary. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Instead, here's what we get. | ||
| Nick Bush is a New Zealander. | ||
| I want to visit New Zealand. | ||
| I've never been there. | ||
| And a citizen journalist, a father of two. | ||
| He's a libertarian. | ||
| He recently deployed a 20-foot trailer billboard that reads InfoWars on one side and Alex Jones' ride on the other, starting an unofficial campaign in support of Alex Jones that stands on a main arterial route into Auckland, New Zealand. | ||
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This guest is a guy who just put a fucking sign up. | |
| Some guy in New Zealand who put aside his InfoWars. | ||
| All right. | ||
| 30th anniversary. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is not showbiz. | ||
| I think you have to like your boss to want to throw a 30th anniversary kind of thing, right? | ||
| You don't think anybody at InfoWars is like, let's make Alex feel good today. | ||
| Well, I mean, if they wanted to make it feel bad, then like... | ||
| Let's get Pechenik. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Oh my god, that would be great. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or even Roger Stone could have shown up. | ||
| He didn't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You got that fucking dude who put up a sign into New Zealand. | ||
| It's just another day on Twitter. | ||
| It is! | ||
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It is! | |
| This fucking show is Twitter. | ||
| It's just another day on Twitter. | ||
| Nobody's there to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Twitter. | ||
| Oh god. | ||
| So this guy brings up one thing that I thought was interesting and then troubling. | ||
| What about the big whistleblower that came out months and months ago and exposed the head technician? | ||
| That's right, the Ministry of Health data, Barry Young. | ||
| So when that came out, and I think you had Liz Gunn on the show here, and she was interviewing Barry and putting that out. | ||
| I think it was 24 hours later, the New Zealand police surrounded his house, armed police surrounded his house, right? | ||
| Here in New Zealand, the police are so-called, they aren't armed or they don't have firearms on their hips. | ||
| And this is, you know, we actually, this is a big deal here in New Zealand that our police aren't armed. | ||
| But ever since the Christchurch mosque mass murder event, a false flag. | ||
| They have had the firearms in the vehicles and that they have a lockbox in the vehicles. | ||
| But it was a total overreaction, a total intimidation there to go round. | ||
| All they needed to do was go round to Barry's... | ||
| Knock on the door and say, look, we'd like you to come down to the station and have a chat. | ||
| So this guy thinks that just casually call Christchurch a false flag. | ||
| That seems like kind of a shithead. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Kind of like a huge shithead. | ||
| Maybe the kind of guy who would get booked on InfoWars for putting up an InfoWars sign. | ||
| So he's talking about Barry Young there. | ||
| Barry was an IT worker at the New Zealand health agency Te Watu Ora. | ||
| And he decided he was going to steal about a terabyte of information from them and release it online. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| This is supposed to somehow show that there were tons of deaths from the vaccine, which it didn't. | ||
| But it did include the personal information of over 12,000 people. | ||
| He didn't know that there would be anything damning in the stuff that he stole. | ||
| This was just to create a big thing for anti-vax extremists like Alex to point to, like it's some big revelation, and then everybody can go and try and cherry-pick data from it. | ||
| Try and find some new storyline. | ||
| I didn't think this thing that I did maliciously was going to be a crime! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh well. | ||
| So, Alex, he brought up Dune earlier. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he has another thought about a sci-fi movie. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Alright, let me use the sci-fi analogy again. | ||
| I've already made this point, I'm going to do it again. | ||
| I don't know, 7, 8, 9, 10 years ago, time flies. | ||
| Tom Cruise had a movie coming out. | ||
| It was pretty good. | ||
| Edge of Tomorrow. | ||
| I'm not a huge Tom Cruise fan, but I like a science fiction movie. | ||
| Oblivion's good, but one was called Forever War. | ||
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Goddamn. | |
| And it's these aliens that attack, and they basically land in Paris. | ||
| Oh, no, that is. | ||
| It's just a different name. | ||
| And they've got time-space continuum control, so they can just restart each battle until they figure out how to beat us. | ||
| But there's one guy that's basically psychic for whatever reason, and he's forever, I'm going from memory, I haven't seen it in a decade, able to beat it. | ||
| Now, imagine if aliens landed in Paris and were blowing everything up and killing everybody, and we sat here, say, in Texas, or people sat there in Auckland, New Zealand, or they sat there in Moscow, Russia, or Durban, South Africa, and said, well, that's France getting blown up by aliens. | ||
| We don't care. | ||
| The WF are transhumanist globalist. | ||
| Cultists that say the age of humans is over. | ||
| They're going to merge the machines. | ||
| They're going to become gods. | ||
| Whether that's true or not, they want to be aliens. | ||
| I think this is a better metaphor than when he said that his whole thing was like risk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Caring about other countries is because there's an alien invasion. | ||
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Sure. | |
| That is better than risk. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because risk is literally a game of global domination. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But yeah, I didn't see this movie. | ||
| Good? | ||
| Actually, it's really good. | ||
| It's actually a really good movie. | ||
| So the general idea, he's got way... | ||
| kind of, right? | ||
| The aliens, if they die, right, then they just restart from a temporal moment and then they replay that. | ||
| And so what happens is Tom Cruise... | ||
| He dies at the same time as one of those aliens in the fight, and so accidentally winds up getting that power. | ||
| So he restarts his life over and over and over every time he dies. | ||
| So then they've got the two, no matter what you do, you'll always win fights going on against each other, and the point, I guess, is that it will never end. | ||
| Is that what happens if you die next to somebody who has a superpower, you get that superpower? | ||
| No, no, no, it's an alien. | ||
| He killed the alien thing. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| I'm not the one writing this movie, okay? | ||
| Let's not jump on my throat for plot issues. | ||
| Also, can Klaus Schwab time travel? | ||
| That is a good question. | ||
| Yeah, that's something I'm wrestling with. | ||
| I think we should establish, before we can do any other conspiracy theories, who can and cannot time travel. | ||
| Oh, I can do that for you. | ||
| No one. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Dare you. | ||
| Dare you. | ||
| You dare me to time travel, I'll do it! | ||
| I'll do it! | ||
| Anyway, Alex liked that movie. | ||
| Tom Cruise. | ||
| I think he likes more Tom Cruise movies than he's admitting. | ||
| Because he loved Top Gun Maverick. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| Everybody likes more Tom Cruise than they're willing to admit. | ||
| He's the greatest movie star that we've probably had in my lifetime easily. | ||
| He's up there. | ||
| So, we go back to calls. | ||
| Which, I am honestly kind of fine putting that New Zealand guy as a caller. | ||
| Less than a guest. | ||
| Alex considered him a guest, so whatever. | ||
| But this guy, he's got an idea. | ||
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I think we need to worry about our own house. | |
| I think we need to clean up. | ||
| I think if a third of the nation, at least a third of the nation, because of all the crap that's come across the southern border. | ||
| Not a third of our nation doesn't go down to D.C. and demand trials, military tribunals, and put all of the ruling class in prisoner shot. | ||
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It's over. | |
| Read Jeremiah 50. It talks about a new nation who is made up of a bunch of different people. | ||
| It talks that they'll be destroyed in one hour. | ||
| And I think it leaves room for people returning back to their countries. | ||
| I think it's going to be the coastal line. | ||
| I think what's going on in the Gaza Strip was predicted in, like, I want to say Zachariah. | ||
| Why? | ||
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I haven't read it in a long time, but it talks about them being lit up, and plus those who rest carelessly in the aisles. | |
| And I think that's, you know, our east and west coast. | ||
| Well, you know, I agree with you, because I've read Revelation probably. | ||
| I'm not going to exaggerate. | ||
| Front to back, I've probably read it six, seven times. | ||
| And I've read Daniel, I've read Ezekiel, that are foreshadows of it. | ||
| Didn't you expect that number to be higher? | ||
| I really did. | ||
| I thought, honestly, as a joke, I was almost like, four, five times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| You are a fucking apocalyptic doom preacher. | ||
| I mean, I've read it more times than that. | ||
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Me too! | |
| And I don't like it. | ||
| It's not like a thing I'm into. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's a shockingly low number. | ||
| I think Alex should read Revelations. | ||
| Actually, no, he probably shouldn't. | ||
| I would expect that number to be higher. | ||
| Maybe he was trying to appear too honest and really lowball it. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| And the reality is he's never read it. | ||
| He's never read it. | ||
| Not one time. | ||
| I would imagine. | ||
| Not one time. | ||
| Seems unlikely. | ||
| Seems a bit bizarre to imagine him sitting and reading a Bible. | ||
| Also, the idea of front to back, too. | ||
| The Book of Revelation. | ||
| It's not that long, either. | ||
| It's a man's dream. | ||
| He was in Greece. | ||
| He had a dream. | ||
| Wrote it down. | ||
| Not a long book. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean... | ||
| Headlines are too long for Alex sometimes. | ||
| That's fair! | ||
| So, you know, this has got verses, it's got chapters. | ||
| It is true, I will admit that. | ||
| It is a well-organized dream. | ||
| So also, fuck this caller for saying crap coming up on the southern border. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like that. | ||
| That's a real piece of shit kind of way to look at people. | ||
| And also, a pretty dumb idea. | ||
| A third of the country has to go and demand military tribunals. | ||
| Something that Alex probably should be opposed to. | ||
| I appreciate... | ||
| You know me. | ||
| I'm an ideas guy. | ||
| Not every idea has to be good. | ||
| I would suggest a lot of the times that people need to say things aloud. | ||
| To themselves first? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Before saying them to a public audience. | ||
| Well, here's the great news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy did say it out loud to himself and the audience. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| And then decides to reiterate. | ||
| No! | ||
| Well, you know, if not a third of our nation doesn't go down there and demand military tribunals, it's over. | ||
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I mean, read Jeremiah 50. It says a new nation made up of a bunch of diverse people. | |
| And it says... | ||
| They will shoot their arrows, and none of them will miss. | ||
| So we're talking about smart military weapons. | ||
| And it says, do to them like they've done to everybody else. | ||
| And this nation also has a mother, which would be, you know, obviously Britain. | ||
| What? | ||
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It's coming. | |
| I don't know when it's coming. | ||
| You know, when I first discovered this in, I don't know, the 90s? | ||
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When I did most of my... | |
| Oh, is the Bible not incredible? | ||
| 2,000 years ago, they'll fire all of their missiles from another land, and none will miss, and they'll fall in an hour. | ||
| That's nuclear weapons, folks. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| And if, like I said, if a third of this nation doesn't go up in demand and put them on the spot right now, right now, it, you know, they've... | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| We do a peaceful march on D.C., they'll detonate a truck bomb and blame us. | ||
| And I agree, marching's good, we should be able to do it, but how do we get around them false flagging us? | ||
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We don't. | |
| We just have to stand through it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And say we didn't do it. | ||
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We have to demand tribunals. | |
| If we don't, it's over. | ||
| Look, if the world does not see us stand up against these thugs... | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Brett, I hear you, and I can talk to you for 10 hours, but I can hear everybody else. | ||
| Let's go to CJ. | ||
| That's how I get to the next great caller. | ||
| I hate hanging up with these great callers. | ||
| These great callers. | ||
| Great callers. | ||
| These great callers are suggesting political ideas based on their interpretation of prophetic scripture. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This isn't serious. | ||
| Yeah, that's only like, I don't know, 70% of our presidents? | ||
| I mean, some of them have been a little bit more subtle about it. | ||
| So we get another caller, and this guy and Alex riff a little bit about how great Trump would be for the economy. | ||
| I mean, people are out of money, and you can't lie about that, so what do you expect to happen? | ||
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I don't know, man. | |
| Kind of hoping to find out an idea on here today. | ||
| The last guy had a pretty good idea. | ||
| Well, Trump will create cheap energy right away, and that'll hurt deflation. | ||
| That'll drop it in half. | ||
| We still have substantive at 10%, and then he can get a bunch of jobs back. | ||
| But this inflation is so bad, it's going to be hard to turn this around all the way. | ||
| Can you imagine another term of Biden? | ||
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Are you joking me? | |
| No, no, I can't imagine that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| And when it happens, there's going to be a civil war if they elect Biden. | ||
| It'd be totally obvious that they stole that election. | ||
| Are you joking? | ||
| Truly, at first, when Trump was president in 2016, I wasn't the biggest fan of him, but now he's like my hero. | ||
| They won him over. | ||
| Through what? | ||
| Being a dick. | ||
| What? | ||
| So, I mean, we have this show that is like people bandying about biblical... | ||
| Prophetic scriptures and nonsense. | ||
| And then also just it is concretely understood that Trump will win the next election, and if not, then it was stolen. | ||
| And if it was stolen, then we have to have a civil war, because we can't have four more years of Biden. | ||
| So that's cool. | ||
| That's the temperature of his callers. | ||
| That's what I would clock this at. | ||
| It's pretty bad. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Still just April. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Okay, I get that. | ||
| But what of the... | ||
| I'm trying to think of a four-year stretch where you could legitimately say, like, if we have another four years of this president, shit's gonna go fucking... | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, including the pandemic. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Even Trump had to be like, we'll make a vaccine. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, even the pandemic... | ||
| Had a vaccine faster than at any point in human history, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what four-year stretch could you legitimately be like, if we have another four years of this president, we're all dead? | ||
| I don't know if we're all dead, but another four years of Trump would have been really, really, really bad. | ||
| Yeah, it would have been really bad. | ||
| Will be really, really, really bad. | ||
| Well, I guess any two-term president, if we had a third one, then it would be bad for what it portends about. | ||
| Except for FDR. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| You should also not be allowed to be a Supreme Court justice at the same time as you're the president. | ||
| That's probably not good. | ||
| We should really write that down. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think what we're coming to is there should be more rules about the Supreme Court, too. | ||
| That's something we should put a pin in that. | ||
| Get back to it. | ||
| So we get another caller. | ||
| This is how we're going to sort of wrap things up. | ||
| Because, I mean, he talks to that guy from New Zealand for a bit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he put up a sign. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's always nice to talk to people. | ||
| A New Zealand accent is a delight to talk to. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But this caller believes that World War III has started. | ||
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Oh! | |
| The Third World War is started. | ||
| And why I called in was about narrative. | ||
| We need to understand that the Third World War is a narrative war. | ||
| And that's the prescience of what Infowars is about. | ||
| I think nobody on the planet has been called a conspiracy theorist more than you. | ||
| And all your listeners have been called conspiracy theorists because of the attacks that have come upon them from their friends, their neighbors. | ||
| And I think we need to stand up against that. | ||
| And I've coined a term, and I want to know if Infowars wants to coin it as well, called conspiracy denialism. | ||
| Oh, I love that. | ||
| Conspiracy denialism. | ||
| The CIA created the term after they killed Kennedy. | ||
| That's declassified in the '70s, the Frank Church Committee. | ||
| In '64, a few months after they killed Kennedy, in '63 in November, they coined the term conspiracy theorist so they wouldn't have to debate a fact. | ||
| They'd just say, "Oh, that's conspiracy theory." Conspiracy denialism. | ||
| Or reality denialism. | ||
| That's a great term. | ||
| This is cute and all, but Alex is full of shit about the term conspiracy theorist. | ||
| And this caller is basically just trying to come up with some way for him to say, I'm rubber, you're glue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, this is schoolyard shit. | ||
| Let's brand little whiny arguments, yeah. | ||
| So the issue for him is probably that he can't ever really prove any of the very definitely documented conspiracies that he hears from people like Alex, and it's getting frustrating not having people believe him. | ||
| The burden of proof is on him because he's making the claims, and that kind of sucks. | ||
| However, if you just pretend that you've proven all your claims and that the other person's in denial about how right you are, you can shift that burden of proof onto them. | ||
| Now the problem isn't that you've failed to make your point, it's they've failed to do Disprove you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's all this guy is saying. | |
| It's a fun game. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| Enjoy annoying your friends and family even more. | ||
| Yeah, I like the ability to take something like climate denialism, wherein the science has been proven for a long time. | ||
| Years, decades, we've already gone through the arguments, we've already done all of it, now it's denialism, because we just can't do it anymore, right? | ||
| And so they've taken that, and they're like, well, what if we are wrong, but we do the exact same thing? | ||
| More or less. | ||
| I mean, that's the path that this guy is suggesting. | ||
| Yeah, fascinating. | ||
| Also, World War III is a narrative war, is a fun way to, like, we're gonna talk shit. | ||
| If you describe a war as a narrative war, it is happening. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because you have made it happen with the narrative you are spinning about the war. | ||
| You have unilaterally invaded reality with your narrative. | ||
| Yes, exactly, yes. | ||
| And that sucks. | ||
| It does. | ||
| So, I mean, look, here, it's the 30th anniversary. | ||
| Don't make anything my 30th anniversary as sad as this. | ||
| It just wasn't anything. | ||
| It was nothing! | ||
| It wasn't much of anything. | ||
| Alex is... | ||
| I think he obviously doesn't want World War III, but he kind of is disappointed. | ||
| At one point in the show, he's going to go live to an IDF press conference, and I think there was a part of him that was hoping for something exciting, but they don't announce any attack. | ||
| There's a little bit of a... | ||
| This fell flat a little bit. | ||
| It's not good for the Infowars model of entertainment. | ||
| Because, you know, it's not news. | ||
| But, like, it's not good for that model for calmer heads to prevail and there not be, like, a retaliatory strike and the U.S. get involved. | ||
| Like, that stuff is really good for Alex. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that because that's not happening, but it's also a big deal that Iran attacked Israel, he's stuck in a weird state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that sucks. | ||
| It sucks to have a 30th anniversary show and the only guest we have is Jake Posobiec and a guy from New Zealand who put up a sign. | ||
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I wanted that glitz. | |
| I wanted... | ||
| Get Ron Paul back! | ||
| How hard could that be? | ||
| Ron Paul still alive? | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Yeah, man. | ||
| See, now that's a guy you expect to die younger than he has. | ||
| Old-timer. | ||
| Old-timer. | ||
| You'd think, huh? | ||
| What you gonna do? | ||
| Dr. Paul coulda come on! | ||
| I was about to say, you'd think racism, but then I was like, how long did George Wallace live? | ||
| I think he lived for a long fucking time. | ||
| He may have. | ||
| Get George Wallace on! | ||
| Get George Wallace on! | ||
| Why not? | ||
| You're firmly on segregation forever. | ||
| Alex's hero, Gary Allen, the guy who woke him up to the New World Order, was a George Wallace speechwriter. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Or get Ted Allen, the guy from Chopped. | ||
| He'd be fun, too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Get Ted Danson. | ||
| Get Ted Danson! | ||
| Get him! | ||
| Get him! | ||
| I dare you! | ||
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So, Ted Danson would have been a better guest. | |
| Ted Danson would have been a great guest. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just disappointment, I guess, really. | ||
| I could have listened to, if I'm being honest, an entire show where Alex just reminisced about the basic access. | ||
| Table access days or something like that. | ||
| That would have been great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or had Owen interview him about those early years. | ||
| That might be interesting. | ||
| I don't think any of it would be honest. | ||
| No, obviously not. | ||
| And Owen's a shit interviewer, so... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But somebody good, maybe? | ||
| I assume some of those people have got to still be around. | ||
| Some of those people that he was on those shows with. | ||
| There's a guy named Jeff Davis, who used to be on Public Access with a lot. | ||
| Not Jefferson Davis. | ||
| Close, but not. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't know if that guy is still around, but that would have been an interesting guest. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Oh, well. | ||
| Anyway, it was what it was. | ||
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Here's to 31. Oh, God. | |
| Anyway. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| We'll be back with another episode, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Blue Sky. | ||
| We are on Blue Sky. | ||
| It's knowledgefight. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm DZXClark. | ||
| I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo, yeah! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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