#917: April 10, 2024
In this installment, Dan and Jordan check in to find Alex still out of studio on vacation, but popping in to announce his intention to sue the FBI and CIA.
April 12, 2024 - Knowledge Fight
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
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KnowledgeFight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Ooh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| Why don't you go first? | ||
| My bright spot is Like a Dragon, Infinite Wealth. | ||
| I went back to it. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I went back to it because, if you'll recall... | ||
| You texted me about this, but I think I was half asleep when I read the text, so I don't remember exactly what you said. | ||
| It was at 3 p.m. | ||
| You might have been taking a nap. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| No, so if you recall, when I bought the original game, I was like, I don't need, like, a booklet or whatever it is, you know, a lot of those add-ons. | ||
| The advanced edition. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I don't need, like, experience. | ||
| You know, I don't want any of that, right? | ||
| But they did hide a New Game Plus feature behind that. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| And I didn't recall, or I didn't see that in advance, right? | ||
| I think I told you about that. | ||
| Maybe I'm fucked up. | ||
| Maybe you were half asleep. | ||
| Maybe I was half asleep. | ||
| You texted me too early. | ||
| Or maybe I bought it already. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Don't need to bog down in the details. | ||
| But they did release the, like, you can update now. | ||
| And pay an extra ten bucks or whatever and get the New Game Plus. | ||
| Because that was the problem, was they didn't allow you to just buy the little upgrade. | ||
| You would have to buy another game, yeah. | ||
| So they buckled. | ||
| You know, you're allowed to do that. | ||
| And I had reached a point in FF7 Rebirth where, like, you're on hard mode, and they go from, like, increasing the difficulty to just making something more difficult. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, it's, oh, great, this is just more time-consuming. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| Harder. | ||
| Just gianter health bars. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've done it. | ||
| Yeah, that kind of thing. | ||
| So I needed to be free of that for a little bit. | ||
| Took a look there. | ||
| Man, I can spend all day in Dundoko Island. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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All... | |
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, just chopping down trees, my man. | ||
| You might like Animal Crossing. | ||
| I might. | ||
| Because it's basically just Animal Crossing. | ||
| See, the problem is I can't then go somewhere else and do an RPG battle in the same game. | ||
| Having that option is kind of nice. | ||
| Yeah, it's just golden, yeah. | ||
| So how's your island looking? | ||
| I mean, obviously you're five stars. | ||
| This time I'm doing it different. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because now in the new game, plus you can keep all of your stuff. | ||
| So you can start with a fresh... | ||
| Yeah, so you get to rebuild it from a blank canvas. | ||
| Man, statues everywhere. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Gigantic statues that breathe fire. | ||
| That's pretty sweet. | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| Fire-breathing statues? | ||
| I didn't even know that was an option. | ||
| Yeah, if you play the game right, you can have fire-breathing statues. | ||
| Kind of like a dragon. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| There's no bad time to point at each other. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What's your right spot? | ||
| Well, actually, it's kind of... | ||
| You've made me think about video games. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's been a while since you've gotten into a video game. | ||
| You've kind of left them behind for a while. | ||
| I feel like I might be... | ||
| Over video games. | ||
| Just for good. | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| Maybe that's just a statement of my emotional statement. | ||
| You're kind of over just about everything right about now. | ||
| I've got a little bit of a... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I plugged in. | ||
| I remembered that I have a Switch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So my bright spot is the possibilities of what games could possibly be on there. | ||
| I was thinking about... | ||
| Because I never did get all that far in Sonic Frontiers. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I do. | ||
| I do like a nice open world Sonic game. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm one of the few proponents of Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. | ||
| You are. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Here's my pitch to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because here's what I think. | ||
| I also don't think I got that far in Zelda The Breath of the Kingdom. | ||
| I almost did none of it. | ||
| I got a little ways into it and then I got overwhelmed by having too many options. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, I can't build anything anyways. | ||
| These are things that are probably worth re-exploring. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| My pitch to you is this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think, because I recall this several years ago, we had been in a situation of you not being particularly interested in video games, and then Fire Emblem Three Houses came out. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I think you go back to that, you run through that one more time, see where you're at. | ||
| I had that thought. | ||
| I did think of how much I enjoyed that. | ||
| You really did? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was quite good. | ||
| Now, you told me all about it. | ||
| Yeah, maybe I should do that. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Anyway, whatever the case, we'll see. | ||
| The possibilities are almost as endless. | ||
| And that's the exciting thing. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Alex has still been out of studio. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| I was texting you that it's so unfair. | ||
| It's been so unfair for so long. | ||
| It's like I'm not even mad about it anymore. | ||
| I am furious about this. | ||
| He's supposed to be back in studio today as we're recording this. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But he's been on vacation. | ||
| He's been in Hawaii. | ||
| So all week, most of last week. | ||
| Just going. | ||
| But on the 10th, April 10th, he did do... | ||
| A bit of his show. | ||
| A special report kind of thing. | ||
| Well, he had to, kind of. | ||
| Popped in. | ||
| Because big news, bro. | ||
| Sales are dead. | ||
| I don't know if you heard this. | ||
| Big news? | ||
| Do you hear the big news? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay, this will all be fresh. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He might be suing the CIA. | ||
| So... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| I'm in! | ||
| We'll get down to business on all this, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some monks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, the Fallacious Trump Podcast. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Marchand von Friedhoff. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And not a bit. | ||
| You guys have a hard job, and I hope you're taking care of yourselves. | ||
| Thanks for the laughs. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| We'll see what's on the switch. | ||
| Right? | ||
| We got a couple technocrates in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too. | ||
| It took my husband two years, seven months, and 18 days to get me to listen to Knowledge Fight, and now I am sending him subliminal messages through your podcast. | ||
| Love your wife. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| And Ali Wen, anarcho-positist poetist. | ||
| Oof, that was a tongue twister. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I don't like to hype things. | ||
| But people are designed to hype. | ||
| I am going to paint once a week on air, and I'm going to let callers call in. | ||
| We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint. | ||
| One, two, three, Matt Damon! | ||
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Matt Damon! | |
| There you go. | ||
| Party time. | ||
| I'm going to get in your guts. | ||
| And the Nazis, in my view, were thugs that shook people down and did a lot of really bad things. | ||
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But they did good things, too. | |
| We're going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm thinking about doing some shows, too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit record, and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight and talk about the nature of the world universe. | ||
| I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye, folks, is as good as, you know, sex with your wife. | ||
| I mean, let's just get down to reality here. | ||
| I'm gonna go Donkey Kong, King Kong crazy in about 45 days. | ||
| America sucks. | ||
| We're all racist. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Does it mean I want to go live, say, in some places in Asia where you get off the plane over there, folks? | ||
| They karate chop you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So, yeah, Alex might be suing the CIA and the FBI and all sorts of other things that are definitely going to happen. | ||
| I understand doing that because we all wanted to in the past for one reason or another. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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But, man, every time you play that, it's like... | |
| God, just do the painting show. | ||
| Just solve everybody's problems. | ||
| Do the painting show. | ||
| Turn our show into like a weird fan podcast. | ||
| We'll be like the Alex Jones painting show. | ||
| I'll get into all kinds of like art theory. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I'll start learning about art. | ||
| Be great. | ||
| I'd love it. | ||
| Yeah, so what happened is that there was a Project Veritas style undercover video that came out of a guy. | ||
| And he is supposedly... | ||
| Works for the CIA. | ||
| Works with the CIA. | ||
| And he had admitted that they were going after Alex. | ||
| And there's some discussion of involvement with the Sandy Hook case. | ||
| So, this has come out. | ||
| And so Alex obviously has to get on the show and talk about it. | ||
| He went on a guy named Benny Johnson. | ||
| He's a commentator who's worked for The Blaze and all sorts of other right-wing outlets. | ||
| He went on his show to do an interview the night before, and Alex ends up playing that interview on this episode. | ||
| So we're sort of hitting both of those bases by covering Alex's content from April 10th on his show. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So here's where he starts off as he comes into studio. | ||
| Well, not studio. | ||
| He's phoning. | ||
| A Hawaii audio. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| 208 days. | ||
| 208 days. | ||
| 12 hours, 59 minutes, 42 seconds. | ||
| Most important election in world history. | ||
| I'll be back in Texas, back in the seat tomorrow. | ||
| I'm joining you from the road on this April 10th, 2024 transmission. | ||
| How many times did I tell you the whole Sandy Hook lawsuit operation was run by the CIA and the FBI, and now it's all admitted? | ||
| It's gonna be discussed by MTG during the FISA warrantless search hearings today. | ||
| She's been talking about that on X. This is a big deal. | ||
| They're in a lot of trouble. | ||
| Y 'all are intending to take legal action. | ||
| This shakes up a lot of things. | ||
| So first things first, it's not admitted that the whole Sandy Hook case was run by the CIA. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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This group called Sound Investigations did a Project Veritas study. | |
| undercover video which purports to show a guy who identifies himself as a quote contracts officer who works with the cia as is often the case with these kinds of reports the video is heavily edited and it involves conversations with this guy from three different occasions during uh march 2024 sure it's very difficult to ascertain any full context from the things that are being said So I need to make that large caveat right off the top. | ||
| In the video, the guy says this about Alex's case, though. | ||
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So with Alex Jones, you were watching him long before anything ended up happening? | |
| Probably. | ||
| It wasn't my office, but we would have been well aware of what he was doing. | ||
| And the goal with him was what? | ||
| Just to bankrupt him? | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| And we let the families do it. | ||
| What? | ||
| We let the families do it. | ||
| Were they encouraged to do that by the Bureau? | ||
| Like nudged? | ||
| We don't encourage people. | ||
| We just say there's no federal statute being broken. | ||
| You do have the option for a civil case. | ||
| It's a pretty good case. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| In our opinion. | ||
| Oh, that makes so much sense. | ||
| I have a cousin who's a lawyer. | ||
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So that's a lot of these cases. | |
| They're kind of encouraged by the FBI. | ||
| Yeah, like, there's nothing federal law we can do, but civil, maybe? | ||
| We can still add them that way. | ||
| And they did? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the FBI was happy? | ||
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We did. | |
| We didn't care. | ||
| We were like, "Oh." Basically, the citizens did your job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow, so you can encourage a civil lawsuit. | ||
| Not encouraged. | ||
| But you can. | ||
| So there's a very non-nefarious reading of what's being said in this clip. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You could hear that explanation as someone saying that they got a complaint about Alex from Sandy Hook families or someone involved, but replied that there wasn't anything they could do from a law enforcement standpoint, but they could sue if they wanted. | ||
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Right. | |
| I find myself unconvinced that this is a confession for a couple of reasons. | ||
| The first is that there's a plausible, innocuous reading of what he's saying, and there's not enough context to persuade me to accept the villainous conclusion that's being presented by people like Alex. | ||
| This is not someone with first-hand knowledge about the subject that the video's presenting him as being a witness about. | ||
| Even according to this video, this guy wasn't employed by the CIA or FBI at the time of the Sandy Hook lawsuit starting. | ||
| They show what's alleged to be his LinkedIn page at the beginning of the video, and if it's accurate, he was an operations technician at the FBI from May 2021 to June 2022, and then a procurement specialist from June 2022 to December 2022. | ||
| He was at the FBI for under two years, and his time there wouldn't have overlapped with the time that the lawsuits were initiated. | ||
| There's no CIA on his LinkedIn page. | ||
| That's just something that he asserts himself in the video. | ||
| And his current job on LinkedIn was listed as Immigration Services Analyst with the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| Prior to the FBI, his LinkedIn page says that he worked with compensation and pension in the Department of Veterans Affairs, but he was only there from April 2020 to April 2021, and there's no previous employment shown in the video. | ||
| They just have a screenshot of his LinkedIn, which is now taken down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, yeah, it would have to be because you're going to lose your fucking job. | ||
| None of the information presented gives any reason to believe that this guy was employed at a relevant agency at the time that would give him the ability to be a witness about any of this stuff in any meaningful way. | ||
| I find... | ||
| Myself unconvinced, is what I'm saying. | ||
| I love that idea of, like, a nefarious reading of that, because to me, you know, that idea of, like, hey, can you guys do anything about this very obvious crime? | ||
| And they're like, no, it's not illegal! | ||
| Aren't we crazy? | ||
| I don't know, maybe you could sue them, right? | ||
| And it's like, I get that you write that as nefarious, but if you've ever had your car stolen in Chicago, like, you go to the cops and you're like, can you do something about this obvious crime? | ||
| And then they laugh. | ||
| They don't even give you any options. | ||
| They're just like, obviously not. | ||
| That's not what we do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this guy in the video, he also says a lot of other stuff. | ||
| Okay, let's hear some of it. | ||
| Well, some of it is about, like, the FBI can entrap people. | ||
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Sure. | |
| By giving a nudge. | ||
| And things like that. | ||
| He doesn't come off great in terms of the way that this is presented. | ||
| Who knows exactly what the raw footage and all of it... | ||
| Because we've seen this game played by James O 'Keefe a number of times in the past. | ||
| And it's very difficult to make any solid conclusions about stuff. | ||
| But as it relates to Alex, that is about as damning as things get. | ||
| And that's not indicative to me of the CIA and the FBI being behind these cases. | ||
| No, I don't understand. | ||
| So I guess it's just kind of like... | ||
| Gotta be new. | ||
| It's always gotta be new, right? | ||
| But it's like, okay, we know in like 2004 during the absolute Islamophobia terrors that were going on, the FBI absolutely entrapped a few people at least, right? | ||
| We know that for a fact. | ||
| Shouldn't that just be enough? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Isn't that disqualifying? | ||
| Like, you can't entrap anybody. | ||
| Zero entrapment is okay, right? | ||
| You aspire for zero. | ||
| You aspire for zero, right? | ||
| So at the very least, they should be more held accountable over that time period, right? | ||
| I agree. | ||
| So why do we gotta bring up some bullshit now? | ||
| Well, because it involves Alex and he needs a new storyline because the fucking eclipse didn't cause the New Madrid fault to go off. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Or any FEMA exercises or martial law takeover drills or anything like that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And his bankruptcy is coming to a head. | ||
| Have we forgotten the eclipse? | ||
| Is it just a fun event now? | ||
| Not a mention. | ||
| Just moved on. | ||
| Not a mention. | ||
| Just moved on. | ||
| Could have been anything. | ||
| I don't know if that's entirely indicative of all of his content. | ||
| I don't know if Harrison Smith is still talking about it. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Or Chase Geyser, maybe still towing the Eclipse line. | ||
| So this is obviously the main story. | ||
| This is the main thing that's focused. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| But there's other things. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| He said Alex's name. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We gotta hear it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Here's the clip of Trudeau attacking me yesterday and debating Pierre Polymer, who's set to be the next leader of Canada in all the polls and all the numbers. | ||
| And then we will give you a little history refresher with a clip of the Nazi officer who massacred people in Ukraine being given a standing ovation. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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The Parliamentary Budget Officer's report, which confirms 60% of Canadians pay more than they get back. | |
| The Prime Minister said, and I quote in 2015, Canadians need a PM who will meet with the Premiers. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| The Right Honourable Prime Minister. | ||
| Well, the Conservative leader continues with his misinformation and disinformation. | ||
| The reality is the parliamentary budget officer said that 8 out of 10 Canadians do better with our price on pollution and the Canada carbon rebate. | ||
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But speaking of misinformation and disinformation, any responsible leader that receives an endorsement and support from proven conspiracy theorist and liar Alex Jones would have immediately... | |
| He denounced that. | ||
| But that's not what the leader of the opposition did. | ||
| He did absolutely nothing because those kinds of endorsements fit within his political strategy. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Seems like they're clapping a bit. | ||
| I mean, sure. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But I wouldn't have gone that route if I were Trudeau. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like that's unnecessary. | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| Normally, in plenty of circumstances, it's like Alex is just navel-gazing, just because... | ||
| But I think part of that is because Alex has been... | ||
| Doing this for too long. | ||
| You know, like sometimes we've had our names mentioned somewhere and I've been like, oh, isn't that interesting? | ||
| Right. | ||
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And I imagine if Justin Trudeau had mentioned our name. | |
| Well, no, that's why I'm not shitting on this too much. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| This is the head of Canada talking some shit. | ||
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You shouldn't be doing that about a guy who maybe is... | |
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Here's the issue, though. | ||
| I think that if Pierre Polivare had... | ||
| Alex Jones is fucking great, then maybe you have something that is relevant to critique. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Alex saying that Pierre is good isn't Pierre's fault, necessarily. | ||
| You know, it's just, it's not, it's... | ||
| It's off the beaten path a little bit. | ||
| I don't think it's a good attack. | ||
| Also, I would argue that it looks better for him if he has no idea who Alex is and thus doesn't need to denounce it. | ||
| If he immediately denounces it, you're like, oh, so you're watching a lot of Alex, eh? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| That's debatable. | ||
| That is debatable. | ||
| But yeah, a lot of times when there's stuff that Alex is talking about that is just sort of... | ||
| Looking at himself and being excited about himself. | ||
| A lot of the times it's kind of like, eh, who cares? | ||
| This is probably Mr. Canada. | ||
| It seems silly. | ||
| If anyone mentions your name who also has the capability to even accidentally press a button that shoots nuclear weapons, that's notable. | ||
| That's worth talking about. | ||
| Yeah, it's strange. | ||
| A little mistake. | ||
| I would not remember that. | ||
| On Trudeau's part, I would say. | ||
| You guys should, like, work on tax policy? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do they do? | ||
| I'm sure he's doing some of that, too. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| So, as Alex is on the show, I realize, like, oh, he's not actually going to host that long. | ||
| He's just going to play the interview that he did with Benny Johnson. | ||
| So, he throws to that. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| I'm on the road, but I'm back tomorrow. | ||
| Again, I'm your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| Thank you all for your prayers and your support. | ||
| It is April 10th. | ||
| 2024, I did a really interesting interview I thought was very informative with the extremely successful and viral and extremely smart Benny Johnson yesterday that really goes to the heart of the deep state's coup against America and their war against America. | ||
| We're about to air the majority of that interview, and then Owen Schroer is going to be back in the second, third, and into the fourth hour today. | ||
| Yeah, so Owen Schroer comes in to take over after they play Benny Johnson's interview. | ||
| And yeah, this Benny character doesn't say much. | ||
| Okay, so he's just kind of there to let Alex roll. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that Alex, at a certain point, I heard Benny talk, and I was like, I think it's been about 20 minutes that Alex has just been holding court. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Just talking in one run-on sentence for about 15, 20 minutes. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it starts off with Benny talking a little bit, and here's some of his commentary. | ||
| So what is one of the biggest black boxes in American life right now that you're not allowed to ask questions about? | ||
| That would be January 6th. | ||
| Ask too many questions about January 6th. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're the most popular TV host of all time. | ||
| You'll get fired. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we've been confused about the official narrative around January 6th for a very, very long time. | ||
| Nothing really adds up, and there are still so many questions that remain to be answered. | ||
| Yet, we now have a little bit of footage from January 6th, and we can look through that footage, and it doesn't make things more clear. | ||
| It actually makes things more confusing. | ||
| Like this clip, for instance. | ||
| Here's a clip. | ||
| Of a man, apparently a very dangerous protester, a violent protester because he's been handcuffed, going to the door of the Capitol with two armed police guards getting let out of his handcuffs and then fist bumping the police officers. | ||
| What exactly is that about? | ||
| You can see the fist bump right there. | ||
| There go the handcuffs and the cops talk with them, chat with them, pat them on the back, clap them on the shoulder. | ||
| And send him on his way. | ||
| Why is this masked man allowed to leave? | ||
| Why is this masked man allowed to go free? | ||
| Presumably he was behaving in a violent manner if he were in handcuffs. | ||
| Presumably there was a reason to place him under arrest. | ||
| What would cause a cop to just liberate him? | ||
| To let him go. | ||
| To liberate this man! | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So this footage isn't actually all that confusing at all. | ||
| We've talked about it in the past. | ||
| It's not even new. | ||
| Benny's doing a good job of performing confusion here, but this is a bit silly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, just like constantly assuming he must be violent because he's handcuffed is doing a lot of assumptive work. | ||
| I like that indignance. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
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Imagine a police officer handcuffing someone who does not deserve it! | |
| Good heavens, sir! | ||
| Also, he's clearly referencing Tucker when he says if you question January 6th, you'll get fired, but Tucker didn't get fired for that. | ||
| I think there's plenty of evidence that people can question January 6th all they fucking want, and they face zero consequences for it, including Benny himself. | ||
| He's kind of a living example of there not being a consequence for... | ||
| A lot of people who use the C-word about their bosses, though, lose their jobs. | ||
| True. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| A lot of people who are very actively involved in a thing that gets you sued for millions and millions of dollars. | ||
| Your job security, despite being the quote-unquote most popular TV presenter of all time. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| Which I debate. | ||
| I had no idea who he was talking about because in my head I was like, Carson's dead, man. | ||
| Carson was not alive during January 6th. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| I would say Jay Leno's even probably more popular than Tucker. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So anyway, why was this man liberated? | ||
| Good question. | ||
| We now know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What would cause a cop to just liberate him? | ||
| To let him go? | ||
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, now we know. | ||
| According to Bombshell reporting out, as of today, a CIA agent, actively, former FBI employee, says there were approximately 20 undercover agents in the January 6th crowd. | ||
| Boasts about taking away Alex Jones' money, says the CIA is targeting Tucker Carlson. | ||
| This is bombshell reporting from Sound Investigations. | ||
| It reveals that former FBI employee and contracting CIA officer Gavin O 'Blennis has claimed that there are at least 20 FBI agents in the January 6th crowd and that Alex Jones was persecuted by his own government. | ||
| And Tucker Carlson is on a watch list. | ||
| So this is why the cops were fist bumping that guy, because he's probably one of the 20s. | ||
| Because he's probably one of the dangerous 20s. | ||
| It's a bit of an unearned conclusion, an unearned leap that's being made here. | ||
| But here is what the guy says in that undercover video about January 6th. | ||
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I thought you said that there were FBI agents in the crowd at the J6. | |
| There always are when there's a big protest in D.C. Just in case it gets out of him. | ||
| But there wasn't enough to turn that high. | ||
| I mean, I'm talking maybe half of 20. You needed 1,000 to get rid of that crowd. | ||
| So they had like, oh, that was just 20? | ||
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Yeah, just go through there and see what I could hear. | |
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Yeah, definitely. | |
| They needed 1,000 at least. | ||
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Wow. | |
| To go to war? | ||
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They're in charge. | |
| Why they didn't have more on hand, I don't know. | ||
| The Bureau didn't really want people knowing that they were in the crowd. | ||
| That would be overstepping their bounds. | ||
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| Do people know that? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Do people know that the Bureau was in the crowd? | ||
| Nope, and probably never will. | ||
| You know agents that were there? | ||
| Really? | ||
| So assuming that everything that the guy says in that clip is accurate, there's still no reason to assume this proves that the guy in the video getting fist bumps from a cop was the FBI agent. | ||
| That's unearned. | ||
| Also, critically... | ||
| According to the information presented in the undercover video itself, this guy did not work for the FBI on January 6th, 2021. | ||
| If the information they're presenting is accurate, then he was doing pensions for the VA at the time and wouldn't begin work with the FBI for another four months. | ||
| Any information that he's presenting is not firsthand, so if it's being used to prop up any of these pretty major claims, it requires some other substantial corroboration, and I'd see an absence of that at this point. | ||
| Here's what I'm thinking is going on, right? | ||
| Because I think there's a fundamental disconnect, right? | ||
| So way back when, whenever the FBI and all those agencies were like, ah, domestic terrorism is the number one threat, right? | ||
| What that, I assume, meant is they would be, like, investigating more of those, right? | ||
| So that means that they would be looking for more informants. | ||
| Informants are, like, people who are already, like, nearby, you know, or in the group. | ||
| Because they can then testify in court. | ||
| They're not commando operatives sent by the FBI to, if there's a riot, fight off 300 people at a time in order to turn the tide of a battle. | ||
| It would be just a guy who was there who later on would be justifying like, hey, I was there when that guy was doing the thing, right? | ||
| Maybe, or... | ||
| Commandos. | ||
| Yeah, could be commandos. | ||
| Could be commandos. | ||
| Yeah, you never know. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Yeah, use your imagination. | ||
| Listen, I could be the idiot here. | ||
| Come on, what's more fun? | ||
| Here's more fun if there are commandos. | ||
| So further, a dude in the video doesn't really boast about taking Alex's money away, though he does say that the CIA isn't interested in Alex anymore because he's broke. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| He also doesn't say... | ||
| The Tucker's on a watch list. | ||
| Here's the closest we get in this clip. | ||
| What would be like a big influence that you're... | ||
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Influencer that you're after? | |
| Like a... | ||
| I don't know, like a... | ||
| I don't even know these names. | ||
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Like a Fox News person or like a Tucker Carlson or like... | |
| Oh, I'm sure he's in there. | ||
| Right. | ||
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You always want the biggest and loudest. | |
| Like that, what was his name? | ||
| The one that said the Sandy Hook didn't happen. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
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Yeah, so we were after him. | |
| You are? | ||
| Are you still after him? | ||
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Why? | |
| Because he's broke. | ||
| He got found guilty and had to pay like $100 million. | ||
| So why are we after him? | ||
| We're not anymore. | ||
| Just to get the money from him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'd be curious what he means by we're after him hardcore. | ||
| I would like a clarification on that. | ||
| What does that even mean? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But when he's asked about Tucker Carlson, he says, I'm sure he's on someone's radar. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He doesn't know. | ||
| I like a good bar talk where you just shit talk. | ||
| Just like, oh yeah! | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I bet that guy was right up there. | ||
| Like, okay, fine. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What kind of backing you got on any of this? | ||
| This is borderline my dad could beat up your dad levels of idiocy. | ||
| It's something that is very good to raise eyebrows. | ||
| But past that, you need a little bit more than this. | ||
| For the kind of claims that are being made. | ||
| I don't feel like even if everything that's being presented in there is accurate, the information about this person's LinkedIn page, all of that, I don't think it justifies the conclusions that Benny is making. | ||
| Here's what Benny would have to be saying. | ||
| In order for the FBI to have been going after Alex, because we were literally at the trial. | ||
| You worked on the evidence for the people who would have been told by the FBI to go after them, right? | ||
| That's kind of the idea there, is that these families reached out to the FBI, and the FBI was like, you gotta go after those people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Which is, again, in its own way, a form of Sandy Hook denial. | ||
| In a sense. | ||
| How many times are we going to do this? | ||
| It is, in a sense. | ||
| And that they were found guilty? | ||
| And this guy, who wasn't there at the time, happens to know all of this, and is very cavalierly, just blasé-ly throwing this out at a restaurant. | ||
| It's, I don't know. | ||
| I've been working for government law enforcement agencies for two years, so I can feel pretty confident that I can just shit talk. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So Benny brings in Alex, and I will say that a lot of this is his normal spiel about how wronged he's been. | ||
| We've heard it a hundred times. | ||
| So many are saying that they hope that Alex Jones sues the hell out of the FBI. | ||
| Joining us now to confirm whether he's going to is Alex Jones. | ||
| Alex, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us today. | ||
| We know that this was supposed to be a time of peace for you, but I guess there's no peace in war, right? | ||
| And apparently the intel agencies have said they are at war with you. | ||
| Your response? | ||
| Well, we've known this for really seven years. | ||
| They even had congressional hearings six years ago, admitting that they had designated myself and Trump as Russian agents. | ||
| With no proof, they had armed services committees in the House where they called us disinformation agents and admitted that Obama put forward two-plus billion dollars in the Defense Authorization Act, the last thing he signed in 2017 in January, set up the Countering Foreign Disinformation Propaganda Act that then tied in to the repeals a few years before by Obama of the laws that barred. | ||
| The CIA from engaging in domestic propaganda or targeting the American people. | ||
| So I'm on record, even before I was sued and had default judgments in rigged trials where the judges found me guilty and the juries found out how guilty I was. | ||
| That was their only decision to make. | ||
| FBI. | ||
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It would take an hour to go through it all. | |
| Yeah, there's a lot to go through. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So this is just the normal Alex spin about the case, and he rattles off his talking points of any ad nauseam. | |
| And to be clear, Obama didn't do what Alex is saying. | ||
| In 2013, there was an amendment in the National Defense Authorization Act that allowed U.S. citizens to receive stuff that's made by government entities like Voice of America if they request it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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This wasn't an authorization of disseminating propaganda to a domestic audience as much as it was a recognition of the fact that the Internet exists, and it was essentially impossible to completely keep this content from citizens. | |
| Right. | ||
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The Countering Foreign Propaganda Disinformation Act was attached to the 2017 NDAA, and most of what it did was establish a global engagement center, which was to, quote, lead, synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the federal government to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining U.S. national security interests. | |
| None of this relates to Alex being sued about Sandy Hook. | ||
| It kind of sounds really official. | ||
| It sounds kind of smart and like there's a lot behind it. | ||
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| Kind of like how Alex used to try and impress people by rattling off his favorite subsection. | ||
| Subsection 50 paragraph. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was very impressive. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's kind of the inverse of our usual problem where ostensibly very dangerous things are named very boring things. | ||
| Whereas this very, you know, somewhat menacingly named thing is like, and you can email people now. | ||
| The countering foreign propaganda? | ||
| From a.gov email address, you can email them a pamphlet. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, what... | ||
| What kind of nefarious name does it have? | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| The National Defense Authorization Act? | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| It's a little bit. | ||
| It's not, yeah, but I mean, it's not like the Helping Children Breathe Act is the one where they, like, stab children, you know? | ||
| Like, that's, yeah. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, Alex has heard... | ||
| Prior to him being sued, that he was going to get sued. | ||
| And someone who was a section chief at the CIA told him. | ||
| I barely ever covered it. | ||
| It was a big internet thing. | ||
| And I said I could see how, as much as we get lied to, that's the case. | ||
| So, when you see every newspaper attacking you and every TV channel, like it was the invasion of Iraq in 2003, that much propaganda. | ||
| I knew it was about setting the precedent. | ||
| I knew the government was involved. | ||
| Then I saw the FBI and the feds and people in and around it. | ||
| Then I was told by a former section chief of the CIA, and I've interviewed a lot of those people and talked to one off record, they're getting ready to be sued. | ||
| It's an agency operation. | ||
| They're running the propaganda. | ||
| The FBI is implementing it. | ||
| You're going to be defaulted. | ||
| They're going to get giant judgments, and they're going to try to shut you down. | ||
| This is bigger than you. | ||
| So I knew that a year before I got sued. | ||
| I said, this is all going to happen now. | ||
| So this is just a mid-level guy, though he is a contract manager. | ||
| He's not a contractor. | ||
| He manages major contract operations, so he's a boss because he's a leftist. | ||
| And so when this information came out, and I'm told they're about to release even more on Thursday, I already knew this was the case. | ||
| I already understood it, just like we have total proof of the feds running. | ||
| The Fed's direction on January 6th, just like the January 6th committee that was a fraud, wasn't even duly put in. | ||
| The Republicans are supposed to vote for who they want on the committee. | ||
| They couldn't. | ||
| They destroyed all the transcripts and videos of the January 6th testimonies, including my testimony to Congress. | ||
| Can't get that. | ||
| It's been destroyed. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's complete bullshit. | ||
| I was going to say, has it been destroyed? | ||
| No, it's super easy to find a transcript of Alex's testimony before the J6 committee. | ||
| The right-wing media just adopted that story. | ||
| It's a fraudulent narrative, but that story, they destroyed all this evidence. | ||
| And Alex is just, I guess, partially because he probably knows that's not true. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you just add your own little personal touch to it. | ||
| It's like, my transcript's gone. | ||
| It took like three clicks to find. | ||
| It's very easy to find. | ||
| So also, I wonder who that CIA section chief is. | ||
| I'm interested as well. | ||
| It's probably Steve Janik. | ||
| Yeah, I would assume so. | ||
| But I notice, though, Alex loves that fucking job title. | ||
| It's a great job title. | ||
| It's like Lieutenant Colonel. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a Cold War thing, you know? | ||
| It's not the director. | ||
| That guy doesn't get his hands dirty. | ||
| But the section chief, he's the guy who's like, go kill that guy. | ||
| It's his aide-de-camp. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He also loves that one. | ||
| If it's a military person, it's a lieutenant colonel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If it's an... | ||
| Intelligence Agency? | ||
| Section Chief. | ||
| Section Chief. | ||
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| This is the way that sources are named in Alex's world. | ||
| Okay, let me pitch you on this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, because I'm trying to figure out... | ||
| Okay, so let's say that feds are in on it, right? | ||
| Again, we were at the trials. | ||
| The evidence that we saw was 99% shit that he just said. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So maybe... | ||
| If we're saying that the FBI is involved, that would require some sort of surreptitious evidence that was gathered outside of that. | ||
| So we have perhaps the text messages, right? | ||
| Who released the text messages? | ||
| A Fed. | ||
| Norm? | ||
| No. | ||
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| I thought it was Norm sent it to Renal. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| It might have been. | ||
| I don't remember exactly the path that traveled down, but it was one of his lawyers. | ||
| But he could totally throw Renal under there and call him the Fed. | ||
| I think that's a great move on his part. | ||
| I guess you could. | ||
| I think that's the way you gotta go. | ||
| Sue Renal. | ||
| It may be what's happening. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So I also don't... | ||
| I don't believe, from my memory of the path through the beginning of this suit and everything, I don't believe that Alex did have an awareness of everything that was going to happen. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| His story was a little different back then. | ||
| But oh well. | ||
| So look, all of this comes down to PR firms. | ||
| We've heard this. | ||
| We've heard Alex say this before. | ||
| So what happened with Candy Hook is, I barely covered it. | ||
| Years later, they go, how do we demonize Trump by demonizing Jones, by connecting Jones to Trump and then demonizing Jones? | ||
| They even bragged about this in major news articles, how they did this. | ||
| The PR firms, some of the top ones in the world, after they rigged those cases, bragged, oh, this is how we did it. | ||
| We didn't like Jones. | ||
| We didn't like Trump. | ||
| We went and took what he said out of context, blew it up really huge, acted in the present tense like I was doing things I never did. | ||
| Ran all these stories, got him sued, rigged the court cases, wouldn't let us defend ourselves, told my hundreds of millions of dollars that I made money off these people. | ||
| That was the main thing on my show. | ||
| It was a blip on the radar screen. | ||
| And then now we learned that it was a weaponization training grid on myself to get all the agencies and networks and big tech to work together to silence me, to de-platform me, to demonize me. | ||
| And then once that one domino fell... | ||
| They'd be able to ban everybody else. | ||
| Again, Benny has not spoken in quite a while. | ||
| I've not heard of him in a while. | ||
| So it sure would be helpful if Alex could ever cite the articles that he's talking about or even specify what PR firm this is. | ||
| Seems pretty crucial. | ||
| This is all nonsense, and the reason I'm sure of that is because when Alex was on Jimmy Dore's show, Kurt Metzger asked Alex what PR firm he was talking about, and Alex floundered and didn't provide an answer. | ||
| Metzger really wanted Alex's answer to be Midas Touch, since they were the people who had attacked Joe Rogan, ironically, using video that they got from Alex of Joe... | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Every time there is a question about it, he... | ||
| I'll get the name. | ||
| I'll figure it out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I would throw... | ||
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| I don't remember the name of this giant Democrat Party-controlled, operated PR firm that has monopolized a great number of years of my life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like he'd remember the name. | ||
| I like the idea. | ||
| Because this is the part that, you know, like, there's so many times where he just moves so fast that you don't stop and think about stuff where it's like, are you telling me that the PR firm, like, there's a PR firm out there that's like, all right, here's our section where it's like, oh, Cameron Diaz wants to be a people. | ||
| She hasn't been a people for like 10 years. | ||
| And then there's the, like, here's where we rig trials section. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Like, what kind of agency are they? | ||
| Well, here's the rub. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The PR firm is a CIA cutout. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So if you're suing the CIA, then you must know the name of the PR firm. | ||
| I would assume you'd sue them, too. | ||
| You'd have to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Otherwise, it would be a very silly lawsuit. | ||
| I guess we'll learn what that is. | ||
| As will Kurt Metzger learn of it. | ||
| If he sees that. | ||
| Well, he says he's going to in this next clip. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| So they staged January 6th. | ||
| They stole the 2020 election. | ||
| They tried to steal 2022 completely. | ||
| They're already rigging things in cyberspace. | ||
| They're already blocking news. | ||
| They're already sending out the mail-out ballots. | ||
| They've already got the bird flu all hyped up and ready. | ||
| And they're going to try to run the exact same playbook again. | ||
| But now that this has come out... | ||
| This is a FBI agent, a CIA boss. | ||
| He's a contract manager over a large contract operation. | ||
| That's a boss. | ||
| That's like a mini-section chief saying all of this and admitting all of this like it's no big deal. | ||
| He needs to be subpoenaed by Congress. | ||
| I am planning to launch a lawsuit against the CIA and the FBI. | ||
| We have to bring all this out. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| It's somebody trying to make deputy ops. | ||
| That's who it is. | ||
| It's always the section chief who's like, ah, if I nail this case, I'm going to be right there. | ||
| I feel like Alex might be very much embellishing possibly this guy's status. | ||
| I think so, and I think there's a self-serving reason to do that. | ||
| He's a boss. | ||
| He's a middle manager, at best. | ||
| He's a contract manager for a company. | ||
| A contract officer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that, from my understanding of listening to him talk, that means that he would go to vendors and sort out contracts. | ||
| So it's not like he's... | ||
| Contract killings. | ||
| I mean, sure. | ||
| Obviously, that could be the contract. | ||
| Otherwise, it's very boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, because he was in pensions and compensations at the VA prior to this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it would make more sense for him to be, again, in a data and numbers kind of... | ||
| It does seem like that. | ||
| But again, all I have to go on is a very limited snapshot that's provided in that undercover video. | ||
| So it's difficult to draw many conclusions about anything. | ||
| But Alex is drawing a lot. | ||
| Now, let me throw this out at you, right? | ||
| Who knows where the bodies are buried? | ||
| The requisitions officer. | ||
| Because that's the person who's got to ask for shit. | ||
| Like, oh, we need a bunch of body bags over here. | ||
| Ha ha. | ||
| I know who murdered all those people. | ||
| It was us. | ||
| Well, on the LinkedIn page they provided was procurement officer. | ||
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| But I don't even know what that means, necessarily. | ||
| And they don't say, so... | ||
| Well, whatever. | ||
| Maybe it's office supplies. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| It's very likely in its office. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| So, Alex, he doesn't want this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fight. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, obviously he does, but he does. | ||
| I don't want a war with the government. | ||
| I don't like having to take these crooks on, but it's a clear and present danger to everybody, and it's something I've got to do. | ||
| It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. | ||
| But history's shown people that live on their feet, they live a lot longer and are freer than people that live on their knees and end up being slaves or killed. | ||
| Living on your knees is what gets your ass killed. | ||
| And I'm not living on my knees. | ||
| This is going viral. | ||
| Elon Musk has responded. | ||
| He wants an investigation. | ||
| He's calling it very disturbing. | ||
| We know he's their new big target along with Trump. | ||
| And so the harder they hit Musk, the harder he hits back. | ||
| So the globalists are making enemies a lot, lot, lot faster than we are. | ||
| Liberty's incredibly popular everywhere. | ||
| I've been on a week and a half vacation. | ||
| Only take one a year. | ||
| It's over a week long. | ||
| And I am in a very nice place in America. | ||
| I'm in the U.S.'s 50th state. | ||
| And I have literally shook over a thousand hands. | ||
| The bellhops, the people that work here, the military, the police, every person at the pool, every bartender, even TMZ said, yeah, people are walking up shaking his hands saying, dude, good job. | ||
| I mean, I could walk out right now to the restaurant bar down there and just stand there. | ||
| And I had 30 people lined up with autographs and photos. | ||
| And it's not about me. | ||
| But people hate the deep state and know it's bad so much that when they see me being demonized everywhere, it had the opposite effect of only making us stronger. | ||
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| Yeah, I see how that's not about you. | ||
| So Alex absolutely wants a war with the government. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's the idea, right? | ||
| His entire career has been predicated around fighting the government. | ||
| Saying you don't want it is absurd. | ||
| This is the greatest thing. | ||
| Like, honestly, sure, I feel like... | ||
| That's the next chapter, right? | ||
| It has to be. | ||
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| The Sandy Hook lawsuit has come to a close. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The bankruptcy is running its course and probably will be resolved in a fairly timely fashion. | ||
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| It's coming towards the point where a decision will be made. | ||
| Seems like it. | ||
| So there is a need for a new... | ||
| Chapter in the saga. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because otherwise, it's just gonna be chasing after all this dumb bullshit like the Eclipse and what have you. | ||
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| So, obviously, this would be a great next overarching thing for Alex. | ||
| I'm gonna fucking turn myself into another Lenny Bruce. | ||
| I'm going to just sue the government and see what happens. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I don't understand why he's not in a situation... | ||
| Like, because to me... | ||
| You know, you look out across the Lion King land and you see that the light's not touching everything anymore. | ||
| There's very little light, right? | ||
| So you convert all of your convertibles into, like, you know, gold and shit, and you leave the country and you just disappear, right? | ||
| And then whatever they can take, they take from you, and you just become a new guy. | ||
| Lose a lot of weight, get a hair transplant. | ||
| He clearly loves the islands. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You should go find an island. | ||
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Absolutely! | |
| Get tan and red until you explode like a failed Wonka character. | ||
| I do, I think, I mean, Alex said he's going down with the ship, so he's not going to do that. | ||
| Ugh, terrible idea. | ||
| So the other thing, though, is you were making a joke about how, like, with the eclipse, they were all saying that, like, Zuckerberg's heading for his bunker and stuff like that, and it turns out Alex did go to Hawaii. | ||
| He did, yeah. | ||
| He did the thing. | ||
| He did the thing. | ||
| It's kind of funny. | ||
| I think you might take more than one vacation a year. | ||
| I love a good... | ||
| I'm in the United States of America, in Hawaii, a place that we absolutely conquered not long enough ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 50th state, and I believe in sovereignty. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But not really. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Whatever we want is ours. | ||
| So, I mean, look, I guess my take on this is, this is thin as a basis for suing the government? | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| But go ahead. | ||
| Good luck! | ||
| Yeah, that's my feeling. | ||
| Maybe one of their attorneys will fuck up so bad that you could win something. | ||
| I do think it would be an interesting waste of time. | ||
| Yeah, they really probably wouldn't delay the trial as much as he might hope. | ||
| You know, the CIA wouldn't be like, ah-ha-ha, we can't find any of the documents that Alex wants. | ||
| They'd be like, yeah, let's go. | ||
| Let's go, bud. | ||
| I think it would be interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex talks about some of the things that happened during his trials and such. | ||
| In Hawaii? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, the court stuff. | ||
| And then Benny talks for the first time in a very long time. | ||
| I'm interested. | ||
| You just said you were planning on suing the federal government. | ||
| What would a Alex Jones versus the U.S. government look like? | ||
| Well, I'm talking to different law firms right now that specialize in this. | ||
| When I get off the feed with you, I'm going to get back on the phone with the lawyers. | ||
| It's obviously a civil rights violation. | ||
| It's a government racketeering operation using cutouts. | ||
| And look, I mean, they come after my mother, my father, my wife. | ||
| In these mediations, they said, listen, just come out against the Second Amendment and we'll drop all this. | ||
| I mean, they've done that repeatedly. | ||
| And they've even said, listen, we're a mafia and there's nothing you can do to stop us. | ||
| To my face, in front of my lawyer. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And so they're very arrogant. | ||
| I mean, these are the sellouts. | ||
| These are the traitors. | ||
| These are the people that really love being under the corrupt FBI's wings. | ||
| I wonder what that comment was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I don't think it's accurately being conveyed. | ||
| I wonder if someone just, like, was fucking with him and said something about a mafia or something. | ||
| I imagine it being if you exasperate a person. | ||
| Even one as professional as possible, eventually they'll just go, yeah, we're the mafia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, it's the same kind of thing as when Alex would say he's out at abortion rallies and people would be like, I love killing my babies. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I love killing my babies. | ||
| If that's what you need for me to ask. | ||
| I'm a demon. | ||
| Yeah, I just want to go. | ||
| I just want to be gone from you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I also don't think that anybody ever said, just come out against the Second Amendment and we'll drop this. | ||
| That's a little silly. | ||
| That would be a very strange one. | ||
| That's pretty dumb. | ||
| Also, I think the reason that his parents would be involved in any kind of, like, legal stuff is because his dad owns the supplement company that they owed, like, $50 million to, weirdly. | ||
| And then his mom owns, like, the company that owns that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So there's, you know, there's kind of the, like... | ||
| Family members holding stakes and things. | ||
| It's not just rank persecution of someone's family. | ||
| You're a business. | ||
| Your family is a business. | ||
| It's a single-talent business, I guess, according to your own depositions. | ||
| I like the idea of Alex like... | ||
| I'm talking to law firms because in my head you just smash cut to Simpsons like clown college where people are like throwing pies at each other. | ||
| I do wonder what kind of a team he could put together if he was going to sue the CIA. | ||
| It could be fun. | ||
| Cochran's dead, right? | ||
| Cochran's dead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Well, I mean, OJ just died today. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, I heard about that. | ||
| So he's not going to be on the traitors? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Who could you get? | ||
| Who could you get? | ||
| I feel like it has to be a down-home country southern lawyer. | ||
| Somebody who's like, nah, I'm no big fancy federal lawyer. | ||
| It's got to be one of those. | ||
| It should be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Barnes is itching for the job. | ||
| I don't think he's got the trigger for the job. | ||
| So Benny asks how this could, like, what grounds are you looking at for the suit? | ||
| Grounds. | ||
| So when you say you're going to file a civil rights lawsuit against the government over this, this is something you've clearly talked about. | ||
| You've retained counsel on this. | ||
| Would you go on First Amendment grounds that they eliminated your right to free speech, the right to a free press? | ||
| And it seems like so much of what you do is, of course, crystallized in the First Amendment first for a reason. | ||
| I've been talking to four different law firms, and I'm literally supposed to be on with one of them five minutes ago. | ||
| I will come back with you tomorrow. | ||
| I'll come back with you today. | ||
| I love your show. | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| But absolutely, I've got to get the wheels on this thing rolling. | ||
| And we've got a lot of options. | ||
| But again, it's not for me. | ||
| It's about to put it out in court and show the evidence and then drag them out in the light with discovery and show what they've really done. | ||
| And it's about congressional hearings and it's about stopping these rogue agencies that have become domestic KGBR. | ||
| I know he's been backing a lot of lawsuits, you know, out there for freedom. | ||
| I would love to see the truth came out. | ||
| Good country you got there. | ||
| I told him that two-and-a-half-hour interview we did three or four months ago with Mario DeFaul. | ||
| He said he wanted to hear the long story, so I told him, I talked like 10 minutes to tell him the truth about what happened. | ||
| And the PR firms, he goes, oh, yes, the PR firms, which is the intelligence agency's mouthpieces, and how they did all that, how they created this, how it shows that it didn't exist. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know, it should be pointed out that in that spaces conversation with Elon that Alex is talking about, that was another example of a time when Alex was directly asked what PR firm he's talking about that admitted to running all this, and he failed to provide. | ||
| an answer. | ||
| Weird. | ||
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One suspects that maybe there isn't an answer and this is just a talking point. | |
| Could be possible. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, Elon seems to be backing some stuff. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Also, There was just the transcript of his deposition that Mark took that got released. | |
| That was certainly some interesting content in there. | ||
| I can't read it because... | ||
| Right. | ||
| On the off chance that it ever becomes... | ||
| I mean, okay, if the actual video doesn't become available, then we'll get... | ||
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I'm not going to argue. | |
| It's the way these things work. | ||
| I know a lot of people have asked if we'll do an episode about it. | ||
| Maybe if it becomes available. | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| I think it would be very interesting. | ||
| The transcript looks electric. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Everything I hear, because I can't even read a little bit. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| That's the goddamn idea. | ||
| I've got to stay true to the goddamn premise. | ||
| I can't believe that you didn't even catch some little things. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I've been off the internet real hardcore for the past few... | ||
| We've both been in a headspace. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| My way of dealing with it has just been leaving the internet aside. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, there's some interesting revelations. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Is there anything more living on one's knees than hoping that a billionaire will back your fake lawsuit? | ||
| It's not fake! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, I mean, we will see. | ||
| I do think that they're... | ||
| I do wonder about Alex's ability... | ||
| To pull off a lawsuit like this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I just mean more like, you know that. | ||
| Without some intervention of a billionaire. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I mean, you know, his whole like stand up, stand on my own two feet thing. | ||
| And it is like you're asking, you're asking your god king whose feet you're literally licking while we talk. | ||
| So much so that you lick the boot of guys who sound like him. | ||
| True. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just do want to clarify. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's not really begging Elon Musk to help me. | ||
| He's throwing it out there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's throwing it out there. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, I don't want you to mischaracterize. | ||
| The secret isn't begging. | ||
| Yeah, I gotcha. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| So it's not totally living on your knees. | ||
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Totally. | |
| But there is, I do think that without some kind of heavy investment, you would have a difficult time pulling off this kind of a lawsuit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, that shouldn't be a barrier to entry if it is a legitimate lawsuit. | ||
| But I'm just not convinced that it is a legitimate lawsuit at this point. | ||
| I mean, isn't the idea that if it was a legitimate lawsuit, the CIA would just kill you? | ||
| I think based on everything Alex has led me to believe about the world, yes. | ||
| That's the idea, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's only if it's an illegitimate lawsuit that they won't kill you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, in the real world, if it's a legitimate lawsuit, you would assume the CIA would have to pay all the court fees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's kind of a big deal. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I'm interested to see where this ball lands. | ||
| Best of luck. | ||
| Because I don't think... | ||
| I don't know if he can pull off not doing this now, but at the same time, doing it seems like a rigmarole. | ||
| Seems like a lot of hassle. | ||
| I just don't see how, I mean, considering his lawyer's fees as it stands now. | ||
| Although, I'm imagining his lawyers are like, well, we might as well just keep working for him on the off chance eventually he pays us. | ||
| You know, because it's... | ||
| I mean, it's a big payday, I think, probably to sue the FBI and CIA. | ||
| If it works, yeah. | ||
| Although I imagine he might be awarded the ceremonial $1. | ||
| Or it might get thrown out of court with prejudice. | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| That's also possible. | ||
| So you were saying that Alex is doing a little licking of boots. | ||
| He's doing a little boot licking. | ||
| Of Musk. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He just thinks that he's Godzilla fighting against the globalists. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I mean, look, here's how the list goes down, okay? | ||
| Of America's citizens. | ||
| He goes, Donald Trump, Elon Musk. | ||
| And Elon's almost there. | ||
| Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and then it goes Tucker Carlson, and then it goes Alex Jones, and then it moves down from there. | ||
| I was just talking to Joe Rogan yesterday. | ||
| I guess it's a private conversation, but the point is, he was like, thank God for Elon, because he's taking all the heat for us. | ||
| I mean, Joe understands that, so do I. Believe it, Elon doesn't want to be the number one target. | ||
| When he gets attacked, though, he's going to hit back. | ||
| So I guarantee you, Elon's happy. | ||
| Trump's out there taking the main brunt. | ||
| So it's Trump. | ||
| And then Elon that are up there like the Godzillas fighting Megalon of the three-headed dragon. | ||
| You know Kedera. | ||
| We're fighting with Godzilla with our missile launchers, you know, shooting at the dragon trying to help Godzilla. | ||
| So it's like Trump and just like two Godzillas are out there fighting the globalists. | ||
| And I'm like an army general. | ||
| Fire the missiles! | ||
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Fire the missiles! | |
| The three-headed dragon! | ||
| I mean, the three-headed dragon, like gasping electricity. | ||
| Our troops are all blowing up. | ||
| I mean, just think about Godzilla movies. | ||
| That's basically what this is. | ||
| I've never thought about it in kaiju terms. | ||
| Thank you, Alex. | ||
| That will create meme content for the rest of all time. | ||
| So we thank you. | ||
| Well, that's what I love. | ||
| They wanted to shut me down. | ||
| They saw me as the kaiju seven years ago. | ||
| And I had a look. | ||
| And kind of like the camera pulls back. | ||
| There's this little kaiju. | ||
| They're like, we defeated this kaiju. | ||
| And I'm like kind of bloody on the ground. | ||
| And then my daddy comes along and he pulls back. | ||
| And there's Trump and he's like, rawr. | ||
| And they don't know what to do. | ||
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It's ridiculous. | |
| Think of it now. | ||
| He's like, kaiju looks big. | ||
| And zoom in, he pulls back. | ||
| I look at this little kaiju. | ||
| And there's a big giant one behind him. | ||
| We're gonna have to animate it. | ||
| We're gonna have to get the animation going. | ||
| I will buy a ticket. | ||
| So I think Alex might have gotten over Dune and gone to see Kong. | ||
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Possible. | |
| Godzilla Kong. | ||
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Godzilla X Kong or whatever it is, yeah. | |
| I think maybe there's a new movie on the horizon. | ||
| Oh man, you can see why I've been avoiding the internet if this will make meme content forever. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| And how dare Alex pretend he doesn't know King Ghidorah? | ||
| He does. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| If he's got Megalon in the tank, he's got Ghidorah in there, too. | ||
| You know, I think, I was just thinking about this. | ||
| I remember whenever people were like, oh, you gotta find a way to go viral. | ||
| You know, back in the early days, whenever things would occasionally go viral, and you'd be like, whoa! | ||
| And everybody would do that. | ||
| And then you gotta find a way to do that. | ||
| I feel like these people figured out a way to do that. | ||
| And they just manufacture it so much that, like, just the idea of it is ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the idea of a meme going viral now is, like, who fucking cares? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I wonder if that's just our brains and the way we relate with social media. | ||
| Maybe that's the case. | ||
| But, yeah, it does feel that way. | ||
| It doesn't feel like things... | ||
| Blowing up. | ||
| Is that meaningful anymore? | ||
| We could just be old. | ||
| Everything gets worse when you get... | ||
| Everything gets less exciting when you've been around too much. | ||
| Maybe for the youth, there's a new form of virality that we don't even know about. | ||
| There are TikToks and the whole thing. | ||
| Oh, the TikToks. | ||
| With the dancing. | ||
| Even that's probably like 10 years old. | ||
| Because I saw it in a Godzilla Kong movie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Parody. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So that's when he comes back from break and is hosting and you've reached the culmination of this. | ||
| As a postscript, they did release another video with this guy on Thursday. | ||
| We're recording on Thursday. | ||
| And this morning they did. | ||
| The CIA guy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It had nothing to do with Alex. | ||
| It was about Ukraine. | ||
| And so it does not advance our story at all with Alex and his pending lawsuit against the government. | ||
| But Alex claims... | ||
| It seems that there are other things to be released. | ||
| So we will see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I'll reserve judgment. | ||
| I'm fascinated. | ||
| I wonder what they... | ||
| I assume that it's going to be that the CIA is behind Russia or, like, behind Ukraine fighting back? | ||
| Sending advisers to Ukraine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So it's not like the Alex Jones, or like, because the far right version is usually like the CIA is causing all of this in some way? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this case, it's just like actually the regular... | ||
| And that was in like the New York Times months ago. | ||
| Yeah, they send people to advice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We do that in like all conflicts, right? | ||
| Like there's suddenly an American shows up and is like, here's a hoogie bomb. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Maybe it's not the best thing in the world. | ||
| But also not related to Alex and his difficulties. | ||
| So I await further context and information about that. | ||
| So yeah, we have, I guess, a little bit of the abbreviated episodes on Monday and Friday this week. | ||
| But Alex, he's been on vacation. | ||
| What do you want me to do? | ||
| I mean, I'm angry enough as it is. | ||
| This is something that has the potential to be a big story for Alex, and I think we got some legs here. | ||
| We're in the need for a new season in his trouble. | ||
| If he goes, I think he's got to go people versus Larry Flint kind of way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But instead, reverse it. | ||
| Larry Flint versus people. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, you know, Lenny Bruce, towards the end of his career, took all the profanity laws and stuff, eclipsed his career. | ||
| It did drive him insane and ruin his life. | ||
| I think that's what Alex needs to do. | ||
| It does seem like a good way. | ||
| For him to move forward. | ||
| It's the next chapter. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So, I guess, I mean, we'll see what happens. | ||
| But for now, I guess Alex might sue the CIA and the FBI. | ||
| Best of luck. | ||
| Until we'll be back for another episode. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgeright.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Blue Sky. | ||
| We are on Blue Sky. | ||
| It's Knowledge Right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I am the Mysterious Professor. | ||
| Woo, yeah! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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