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#905: February 26, 2024

In this installment, Dan and Jordan continue to track the constantly shifting saga of Alex Jones' feelings about Elon Musk.  Plus, Alex reports on the passing of one of his great villains, Jacob Rothschild.

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alex jones
29:59
d
dan friesen
51:50
j
jordan holmes
25:09
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chase geiser
01:06
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kanye west
00:02
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steve quayle
00:03
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
I need money.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
I'm Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
I know what it is.
jordan holmes
I mean, obviously, I will say I have a two-pronged bright spot.
The first one, obviously, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Finally allowed to play it this morning.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Man, that countdown, brutal.
dan friesen
We talked about this a little bit last night.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I'm curious to hear if you did...
Try and play some at midnight last night.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
You managed to go to bed?
jordan holmes
I managed to go to bed.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
But that's because lately I've been waking up at like 4.35 in the morning, so I was like, hey, what's the difference between trying to play an hour at midnight and then passing out because I'm an old man?
dan friesen
Right.
Instead of a fully rested morning session.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
That's impressive.
I have not been able to do that whenever I've had games that were coming out.
It's rare that I've been in that position, but I'll play the fuck out of midnight.
I'll just be like, tomorrow's screwed.
I'm going to pull one.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think what it is is my need for routine to maintain sanity is so strong that my body literally just shuts down now at like 9.30, 10 o 'clock.
dan friesen
See, I'm jealous of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I can't muster any semblance of routine.
jordan holmes
Brutal, brutal.
dan friesen
I think being married must help, you know, in terms of that.
Having someone else around probably helps with some structure.
jordan holmes
There's definitely that.
There's definitely that.
But also it is like, man, bipolar, you gotta have a routine or you will die.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess so.
jordan holmes
There is definitely that.
dan friesen
But yeah, you're enjoying it?
jordan holmes
Yes, I love it.
It's great.
Everything I want from it.
Except maybe the intro is a little bit slow.
But you know what?
That's the way people work.
dan friesen
The intro was the last game.
jordan holmes
It is.
You know what?
dan friesen
That's what it should have been.
It should have just been a little previously on.
jordan holmes
I'm going to tell you something right now.
This is the problem with devaluing writers.
Whenever video games are having two hour long intros, you know there's no writer there going like, hey buddy, let's...
Let's make a prologue less than a thousand words.
dan friesen
Right, right.
Let's tighten this up a little.
jordan holmes
Edit down, but whatever.
dan friesen
Well, I'm glad you're enjoying it.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
And then the second one is I was a guest on On Brand.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
The podcast.
dan friesen
Talking about comedy special.
jordan holmes
Comedy special.
I got to talk analyzing comedy instead of horror.
Although there was a little bit of both.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But yeah, man, I miss punch-up.
I don't miss stand-up.
I miss telling people how they're wrong.
dan friesen
Ah, yes.
This is how this could be better.
jordan holmes
This is how you should get better.
unidentified
I am Jordan Holmes, the joke doctor.
jordan holmes
Hey, man.
Those who can't.
We do help you with a tag.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, I mean, that was always one of the joys of, you know, hanging out.
Hanging out at the open mics after, like, oh, here's how that could be tweaked a little bit to make it better.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's always been one of the, like, bonding things, too.
dan friesen
And it usually was over a fair amount of drinks, so that also helps.
jordan holmes
Absolutely, yeah.
Things were a lot funnier whenever it's just you getting drunk with your friends.
dan friesen
Yeah, so people can check that out now.
jordan holmes
Yep, it's very good.
Anyways, your bright spot.
dan friesen
I guess, I mean, look, I don't really have a bright spot, but I'm gonna just say it's that It's now freezing in Chicago, and on our last episode you were bragging about not having to wear a coat.
You are back in a coat today.
jordan holmes
Back in a coat, back in a hat, wearing an undershirt, and I wore long underwear to walk the dogs this morning.
It's brutal.
dan friesen
Okay, well, word on the street is that temperatures are going to rise eventually.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Fired.
dan friesen
Was this what the hedgehog, the groundhog told us?
jordan holmes
The hedgehog?
The groundhog?
Oh, the Groundhog Day from the Fenway.
I never remember.
What is it?
If it sees the shadow, it's six more weeks of winter?
dan friesen
I think so.
Maybe it might be the other way around.
jordan holmes
Or the other way around.
I never remember which one it is.
I think the fact that neither of us know kind of suggests how meaningless it is in the first place.
dan friesen
Sure, but it definitely didn't predict that it would be 60, then snow, then 60, then 20. That would be a very strange prediction for a groundhog.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Very specific.
It would require writing, perhaps pictographs.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, shorts tomorrow.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Says the Groundhog.
dan friesen
Right.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And we're talking about February 26th.
2024.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Which is Monday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the reason that we're doing this is we're in a little bit of a saga, I think.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is Alex wrestling with his feelings about Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So on our last episode, we saw him going so far as to personalize criticism about Elon Musk.
Sure.
Elon is giving him nothing but satisfaction.
He is the great wrecking ball against the globalists.
Hey, if you want to complain about him, you Pharisees, you purer-than-thou types, I don't want to be sitting here with the grandpas complaining about how Musk wasn't in the battle 20 years ago.
He was really very defensive.
jordan holmes
Are you about to tell me that we are going to condense what should be a longer time period of disillusionment into about an hour?
dan friesen
Maybe a day.
So there's a little bit of a shift.
jordan holmes
We're speedrunning hatred, is what we're doing.
dan friesen
Well, you know, on our last episode, there was a bit of a...
I kind of knew that eventually this was going to have to be revisited.
Sure.
Because the tide was going to shift a little.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Not so much expecting next episode.
But such is the info war.
unidentified
Comes at your face.
dan friesen
Allegiances shift.
Yep.
All kinds of ins and outs.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this and some other important news.
But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I just paid off my student loans and can now fund the information war.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
If you say that, I imagine you being like 75. I paid off my student loans and you're like decrepit.
That's in my head.
Because that's when I'm going to pay them off.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Those grandpas who are Pharisees and purer than you.
Next, congratulations, Zooey and Sidnar, on getting engaged from Zanely the Ridster and Squeaky.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, fuck Glitterbug Churches.
Be ties to Knowledge Fight.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Dan and Jordan.
We both love Knowledge Fight and use it as an inspiration from Bugs and Bam Bam in the Bibliorex.
Bibliorex.
I did it right.
unidentified
Nice.
dan friesen
I pronounced it podcast.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And you're doing the Lord's work, and by that I mean the Lord of the world and darkness.
Just as real as whatever Alex says.
The Dan Brown of the right.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to Alex Jones' neighbor's still uneaten ass.
Thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.
I am going to paint once a week on air.
And I'm going to let callers call in.
We'll also take emails and request what you want to see me paint.
One, two, three, Matt Damon!
unidentified
Matt Damon!
alex jones
There you go.
Party time.
I'm going to get in your guts.
And the Nazis, in my view, were thugs.
It shook people down to a lot of really bad things.
unidentified
But they did good things, too.
kanye west
We're going to stop dissing the Nazis all the time.
alex jones
Okay.
I'm thinking about doing some shows, too, where I run the whole thing myself, just hit record, and sit in the dark with just a few candles and candlelight.
And talk about the nature of the world universe.
I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye, folks, is as good as, you know, sex with your wife.
I mean, let's just get down to reality here.
unidentified
I'm gonna go Donkey Kong King Kong crazy.
alex jones
In about 45 days.
America sucks.
We're all racist.
It's over.
Doesn't mean I want to go live, say, in some places in Asia, where you get off the plane over there, folks, they karate chop you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, we start off on the 26th, and Alex is in a bit of a state, I would say.
The first segment of the show, there's some special reports and stuff to play, and then Alex comes in right before it goes out to commercial.
alex jones
It's Monday, February 26, 2024.
We are live.
But for how long?
unidentified
Enemy forces have entered the base.
alex jones
Enemy forces have entered the base.
unidentified
Stay with us for emergency transmission updates.
dan friesen
Dramatic fuck.
jordan holmes
Somebody sell that desk.
Somebody sell that goddamn desk now.
dan friesen
Enemies are in the building.
jordan holmes
Enemies are in the fucking building.
dan friesen
This is our final transmission.
jordan holmes
We 100% need the, like...
Classic, sitcom-esque repo men are taking shit away during the broadcast.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
We need that, right?
dan friesen
That would be a great visual.
jordan holmes
That's gotta be there for us, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'd be nice.
So Alex comes back, and he's gonna get to some news, but first he has to complain about how the globalists are trying to kill off everyone in order to create a Superman, but they're actually not.
alex jones
They're not!
Just one?
jordan holmes
Just one!
dan friesen
Well, maybe a...
jordan holmes
Crew, super people.
dan friesen
But they're actually not.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's not what they're doing.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
But that's what they say they're doing, which isn't what they say they're doing.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
Interesting.
alex jones
And the globalists believe that they're abusing us as mass guinea pigs and out of this metamorphosis, out of this grand experiment that they are honchoing, the Ubermension or the Superman, the fittest, will come climbing out of that pool of slime.
Now, really, they're just a bunch of evil people that hate themselves and hate us.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Who congregate and organize into groups, into wolf packs, into piratical assemblages.
unidentified
Whoa.
alex jones
Who go out then and basically wage war on...
jordan holmes
Piratical assemblages.
dan friesen
That's pretty nice.
alex jones
Hijack human invention.
They sequester it for themselves.
And then anoint themselves the high priest and lords of the earth.
Well, one of those lords, and I'll be talking about this later in the hour, but it's not the most important news, so I'll do it later.
The fourth baron Rothschild, the fourth baron de Rothschild, Jacob Rothschild, is dead at 87. And I posted some things that weren't too mean on X today.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
He liked to pose in front of Satan, idols.
He liked to pose in front of paintings of Lucifer.
So we said, hey, Lucifer is summoning his legions.
There he is with the head Alisher Crowley witch, Marina Abranovich, and behind him is a famous painting of Lucifer summoning his legions.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
You know, I'd say, well, maybe it was a Halloween photo they took.
I can give her the benefit of the doubt.
With the Rothschilds, it's constant posing in front of satanic regalia and eyes wide shut parties and things like that.
So that's what they're into.
That's what they do.
And so he's with his god now.
Very interesting.
dan friesen
That is interesting.
So I'm fascinated, but I'm not fascinated by it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Simultaneously surprised and not surprised that you immediately picked up on that Halloween costume thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Clearly being something about it.
Because that caller on Friday had said that Elon Musk dressed up like Baphomet.
And Alex was like, oh, it's a Halloween costume.
jordan holmes
It is a Halloween costume.
And now he's clearly trapping himself in a, wait a second, maybe I should only worship, wait, no.
Worshiping one billionaire is the same as worshiping another.
No!
dan friesen
Also, I'm thrilled that Alex didn't post anything too mean.
On just that he worships the devil and is now in hell.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no, no.
First off, okay, if that is the case, if that is the case, both barrels, there is no such thing as too mean.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You work for the fuck!
I'll say all kinds of mean words to you, sir.
dan friesen
Sure.
I would say that's fine if you're, you know, attacking a demon or something.
But I think saying that someone works for the devil the day they die is maybe a little mean.
jordan holmes
If they work for the devil and you are certain of this...
dan friesen
Counterpoint.
jordan holmes
Then no!
dan friesen
The devil doesn't exist.
jordan holmes
Okay, there is that.
dan friesen
People aren't working for the devil.
They're not demon-possessed, so...
It is mean.
jordan holmes
See, here's what I'm saying.
And this is now my new litmus test, alright?
You clearly don't believe in your own bullshit if you're not willing to call that guy the C-word on the day he dies.
dan friesen
I think Alex is trying to be another C-word, which is classy.
I think that's what he's doing.
It's transparent, and I don't buy it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex.
He called out the Rothschild just a week ago.
So did he kill him?
I don't know.
Maybe that's the implication.
alex jones
I called out Lord Rothschild.
Was it just last week?
I said, Lord Rothschild, you are doomed to hell with the rest of your forces.
dan friesen
Not too mean.
alex jones
Very interesting.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
I want to find that clip.
I did it a little bit forcefully.
I had no idea that he was so ill.
A jolly old chappy.
unidentified
It's 87!
jordan holmes
That is ill!
alex jones
My pretty.
So, we're going to be discussing that.
dan friesen
Weird noises.
That's strange.
Yeah, I don't know if Alex is tracing some kind of, like, I called it, but he's saying I didn't know he was that ill, so he obviously didn't call it.
He was just talking shit, which he does all the time.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Any week you could have found him saying some kind of shit about the Rothschilds, probably.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's my question, right?
Is it so much of a bad thing if you've got, like, legions?
Like, if you die, and sure, you go to hell.
So, the environment, not as nice as you'd like, obviously.
dan friesen
It's a dry heat.
jordan holmes
It's a dry heat, you know?
But you've got legions.
At least you personally have legions.
dan friesen
This is the classic servant in heaven, king in hell kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But that is a classic fallacy.
You are not a king in hell.
And Alex actually does talk about that a little bit later.
unidentified
Okay, well, there we go.
dan friesen
So your thinking is very clearly off.
jordan holmes
Clearly.
dan friesen
But yeah, our apologies also to a friend of the show, Mike Rothschild, who we would have liked to have on to comment about this, but time, just get out of the time to work that out.
But I'm sure he's gotten a lot of shit from people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no doubt.
dan friesen
In the aftermath of this.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So that's one big story.
Rothschild is dead.
And there's another big story.
alex jones
It's a pretty big deal.
Dan Bongino got a secret document of the CIA.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Under orders of Obama, who set up a stay-behind network.
jordan holmes
Dan Bongino.
alex jones
In late 2016, to target Donald Trump, Alex Jones, Roger Stone, and 23 others.
And it said, in the larger document that Bongino was going to release more of, it's highly classified, he's released one page of it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
That they were ordered by Brennan.
CIA director.
jordan holmes
Does he have to respect class of village?
alex jones
To bump us.
Now, bumping means harass or attack.
And that's what all this is.
They've been bumping me.
Because they think I'll get in a little corner and curl up and pee-pee on myself.
Well, I think they've noticed that's not happened with myself or Trump or anybody else.
It just makes us know we're totally right about what criminal scum you are.
jordan holmes
No, hygienic people use the corner.
alex jones
They're bumping you.
You know, bumping you off.
It means everything from running into somebody in the grocery store to slicing their tires to suing them to planting drugs on them to bumping you.
You know, bump man, button man, bump you off.
What a nice document.
dan friesen
What a nice document.
All the bumping.
jordan holmes
Took us a while, but we got there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Dan Bongino didn't release any classified document.
He put up a list of 26 names on his show.
He just had a picture of names.
Looks like something from a fucking notepad document.
It is not from any official CIA release document.
And he just said that this was a list of names that an unnamed source told him that were being targeted by the feds.
There's no document.
I have zero reason to put stock into things Dan Bongino is...
That said, I wanted to get a handle on what the deal with this bumping thing was, since Alex seems to give the term a very broad definition.
Seems like it could be anything, really.
I went to the Infowars article about this, and they say, quote, in spy speak, bumping is when a reason is manufactured to meet with the target of interest in order to develop a relationship that could lead to intelligence, the New York Post reported.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So it's like an on-purpose meet-cute, if you will.
dan friesen
Yes, but one person isn't aware, and it's a setup.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that New York Post article is what this actually traces back to, which is a post on Michael Schellenberger's Substack, co-written by Matt Taibbi and Alex Gutentag from about two weeks ago.
Sure.
Dan Pagino is just re-reporting this story and saying that he has his own sources on it, but not revealing anything new.
The article also has no document underlying it, and it is based on, quote, multiple credit...
I find that wording a little strange.
Is it not enough to say that multiple sources have told you this stuff?
If we're supposed to take your reporting seriously, shouldn't it be implied that your sources are credible based on the fact that you're basing a report on them?
jordan holmes
You'd think.
dan friesen
So the Substack article ends with this.
Quote, unknown details about the FBI's investigation of the Trump campaign and raw intelligence related to the IC's, intelligence community's surveillance of the Trump campaign, are in a 10-inch binder that Trump ordered to be declassified at the very end of his term, sources told Public and Racket.
If the top secret documents exist proving these charges, they are potentially proof that multiple U.S. intelligence officials broke laws against spying and election interference.
If these top secret documents exist, am I supposed to believe that these documents definitely exist if the person writing this article doesn't even seem to trust their very credible sources about their existence?
jordan holmes
I am going to throw this out at you.
Okay.
I am willing to accept a, like, I'm not 100% sure what's in the documents because who can be?
Even if you saw them, maybe that was some blacked out shit.
They do that.
The government's crazy.
Yeah, absolutely.
But let me tell you something.
If you go, I don't even know if that shit's real.
I say, go away, sir.
dan friesen
Go away!
Be gone!
So the evoking of this 10-inch binder of super-secret documents that Trump ordered declassified at the end of his term, it smacks a little too much of someone in Trump's orbit creating a counter-narrative to the fact that he's facing criminal charges for his handling of classified documents.
But I guess they could actually just produce the document, or these sources go on the record.
That could help solidify these claims.
But for now, we have Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger's sub-stack that has no proof behind it, and then Dan Bongino talking shit, and Alex exaggerating.
Operating that talking shit on his own show for his own purposes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
You can just...
If you get the ball rolling and enough people are there, then you can just say shit forever.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
And they just stay.
Like Matt Tybee, what is he even doing?
What is he doing?
dan friesen
Not sure.
jordan holmes
He used to write books.
I remember reading a book of his in the past, and I went...
Those are words.
dan friesen
I accept them.
He still uses words.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
Strongly.
dan friesen
It is the strategy that you just gotta keep rolling, rolling, rolling.
jordan holmes
You just gotta keep rolling.
dan friesen
Fred Durst taught us all about that.
jordan holmes
He's done it all for several reasons.
Or perhaps just one.
dan friesen
You gotta have faith in your ability to spread bullshit.
That's wise.
So there's another story here that Alex has.
This is a bunch of bullshit too.
alex jones
So, The Atlantic.
Is officially saying that they are not going to let Trump in, and that they will do what they claim he did, and Congress decertify the election.
They've indicted Trump for claiming he did that when he didn't do it.
He wanted an investigation to look at it.
Now they're officially saying, if he wins, we just won't accept it.
unidentified
Not if we think we won, we'll fight it.
alex jones
No, no, no.
If he wins, we'll just steal it.
It's all about the arrogance.
Now there's the headline.
How Democrats could disqualify Trump if the Supreme Court doesn't.
Isn't that interesting?
jordan holmes
A lot of things are interesting.
alex jones
You know, in Trump's cases, the federal ones that left kangaroo juries, I bet you a billion dollars, which I don't have, of course, that they will never even allow that article put out by the establishment to be like, look, they're the ones proposing it.
Or the New York Times article months before the election in 2020 that was John Podesta, the reporter, at the big war game where they said, oh, if Trump wins, we're just going to disregard it and have our own inauguration, and that's the end of it.
Isn't that interesting?
Isn't that amazing?
dan friesen
It's amazing and interesting.
So we've been over it a bunch, but that article about Podesta and the war game wasn't about planning to delegitimize a Trump victory.
It was about exploring what could be done if Trump lost and refused to leave office.
Rosa Brooks, the co-founder of the group in question, the Transition Integrity Project, said in an interview, quote, Turns out that was good forward
thinking.
As for this Atlantic article, it's not announcing plans for Democrats to steal the election.
This was an article about oral arguments that are being made before the Supreme Court in the Colorado case regarding making Trump ineligible to be on the ballot.
The attorney representing the voters from Colorado was warning the court that if they didn't make a determination in a timely fashion, they ran the risk of creating a scenario where representatives in Congress had to, quote, This was a lawyer urging the court not to delay the decision because the consequences of not providing solid legal guidance could be a disaster.
The House Democrats cited in this article all express a desire for the court to decide because, as Adam Schiff said of the alternative, quote, that would be a colossal disaster.
We already had one horrendous January 6th.
We don't need another.
The point of this article is not that Democrats are announcing a plan to steal the election.
It's reflecting an almost universal sentiment that the Supreme Court needs to make a decision on this, and if they don't, shit's going to be bad.
The takeaway from this article is that the court can't dodge this.
They just can't do that.
That's the unacceptable avenue.
jordan holmes
They're going to do that.
dan friesen
If they punt and don't make a definitive ruling one way or another, it will lead to a crisis.
And there's a huge likelihood that some states will try to disqualify Trump.
It's fucked up to be in a situation where members of the House are tossing around possibilities like this, but if they decide to disqualify Trump, Mm-hmm.
It's a completely different legal question than what Trump did in the 2020 election.
It bears certain superficial similarities, but it's entirely different.
And one of the primary differences is that pretty much everyone in this case is just saying, please don't put us in that situation, Supreme Court.
Just make a fucking ruling.
And you'd have no faith that they will.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
I mean, I...
I am so amazed at...
Because there's two things, right?
It's either the people that have been elected to be in the places where you elect them are so utterly incapable of learning anything that we're just going to watch this happen.
Or they're like...
I don't know if they're doing it on purpose, but they have some sort of motivation that keeps them from doing anything useful.
You know what I mean?
Because it's either you haven't learned anything over the past my entire life, or you're like, this is great, and I'll die before there are consequences for it, right?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think that the ideal situation is have something to point to.
Right?
Like, the Supreme Court decision, if there is a decision, then we all abide by that, and we have to listen to that.
So, it's not wanting to take the heat for making that decision either way.
So, if the court comes back and says, like, this is up to the states, then they're fucked.
jordan holmes
Right, but that's what I'm saying.
Like, you understand learning.
unidentified
This is not the first time we've been here before.
dan friesen
But if you read the article in The Atlantic, the people who are talking to them, like Jamie Raskin, are saying things like, we might have to do this.
So there is some reflection of some learning.
jordan holmes
Well, let's find out.
Here's what we're going to do.
I'm going to root for people being able to learn.
I'm going to defy expectations.
I'm going to buck trends.
dan friesen
Can I ask you a question?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And here's a quart of vodka.
What are the ways to learn?
unidentified
Ooh, I'm gonna need all of this, baby.
dan friesen
So, another question that I have is that, does Alex think that misrepresentations of headlines are powerful evidence to present in court?
Like, I get that he operates wholly in the sphere of public opinion, but it's hard to imagine that he actually thinks this Atlantic article, or the one about Podesta, would have any relevance in an actual courtroom.
He's saying, I bet you a billion dollars this won't come up in the...
Of course it won't!
jordan holmes
Here's, and actually, you know what?
Let me throw this out at you, right?
In the Atlantic, they are making a good point.
Norms will not descend like some fury from the gods.
dan friesen
Well, that's from a different article, actually.
That's the Transition Integrity Project co-founder who is talking about the war games.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Just to be clear.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
Clear, clarity.
dan friesen
But I think, I do also think that maybe that's an implication that's behind the Atlantic article.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
But, you know, like.
People are inevitably, if there is a takeover, probably just going to be like, well, and then just kind of move forward.
Like history has proven.
dan friesen
There could be a flare-up.
Sure.
Always possible.
But then people may adjust.
jordan holmes
So, what if the Atlantic did it?
Right.
How many people does the Atlantic employ?
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but I don't think enough to take over a country.
jordan holmes
I say probably 750.
I think you could do it with 750.
If they all were focused.
dan friesen
How many people do you think were at January 6th?
About 750?
jordan holmes
But only a few of, only a hundred of them were focused and determined.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
They were like slinking through the shadows.
If everybody there had a purpose, worked for the Atlantic.
dan friesen
Okay.
You make an interesting point.
jordan holmes
I think that's what will happen, yeah.
dan friesen
So let's move on to the next bullshit headline that Alex does.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
And then we've got even crazier, more important articles.
Da Nang fever surges 400% in Brazil after Bill Gates' back gene-editing mosquitoes are released.
jordan holmes
Am I reading that article?
alex jones
Well, he's a nice man.
I'd like to give you a shot for a spike protein that makes your body produce a spike protein.
And it's the audacity of it, you see.
It has to be the audacity.
Like, no malaria here until he releases malaria mosquitoes.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
They, quote, go out and mate with the other mosquitoes so they can't carry malaria, but they've got malaria in some weird genetic experiment, and then we get malaria.
jordan holmes
Sounds scientific.
alex jones
But that's okay.
He's your doctor.
You didn't know that?
dan friesen
I didn't.
So it's dengue fever, not Danang.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
Danang's a city in Vietnam.
jordan holmes
I was going to say.
dan friesen
So you can see here that Alex is proposing an idiotic conspiracy theory that genetically modified mosquitoes are causing an outbreak of dengue fever in Brazil.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The reality is that there is a huge dengue fever outbreak that's been going on there this year, with the New York Times citing the Brazilian health ministry estimate that there will be 4.2 million cases this year.
unidentified
Fuck.
dan friesen
So dengue fever is spread by mosquitoes, and Brazil has been seeing record temperatures Pretty much everybody understands that...
climate change changing these patterns.
Right.
unidentified
This is not just a Brazil problem.
dan friesen
There are cases rising in surrounding countries, and we've seen it here in the United States for the first time in the last few years.
Great.
unidentified
Most cases of dengue fever are very mild, and sometimes you don't even get any symptoms.
dan friesen
However, about 5% of cases become severe dengue, which then has a low mortality rate if it's treated, but if not, kills about 15% of people who get it.
Sure.
unidentified
Now, you add to this problem that mosquitoes have become very insecticide resistant, and you have a real dilemma.
dan friesen
There's a promising new vaccine, but that doesn't really help people now.
So obviously, one strategy is increased testing, providing that for people.
Sure.
unidentified
Catch it early, be able to provide treatment so it doesn't become severe dengue.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
But another is releasing genetically modified mosquitoes.
dan friesen
A British company called Oxitec has created these mosquitoes by injecting a bacteria called Wolbachia into the eggs of these mosquitoes.
Sure.
unidentified
This has a dual effect of And it disrupts the ability of these mosquitoes to reproduce.
dan friesen
There's been promise shown in the pilot launches of the mosquitoes, like in Medellin, Colombia, where Axios reported that they saw, quote, dengue contagion reports dropped by up to 97% from 2022 to 2023.
jordan holmes
That's a lot.
dan friesen
Even so, there are plenty of environmental questions that this raises, and the specter of unintended consequences is definitely there.
I think a certain amount of uneasiness about this idea, pretty reasonable, but what Alex is doing is absurd.
These mosquitoes are categorically not causing more cases of dengue fever to pop up, but that's the impression that Alex is giving, and, you know, it's just stupid.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah, I get where people are coming from, you know, but it's already too late.
We might as well just...
Full force, you know?
Like, listen, we've already terraformed...
dan friesen
You mean getting rid of these, like, environmental concerns of unintended consequences?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, listen, look at everything we are as unintended consequences.
When you look outside, this is all horrific unintended consequences.
We're already past 1.5c up degrees Celsius, so let's fucking...
Full force!
Maybe we'll get through to the other side!
You know, you go through the...
Okay, so the roadrunner...
Right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Goes through the fucking wall!
dan friesen
Right, that's just painted on there?
jordan holmes
The coyote can't.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because the coyote doesn't believe.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right, the roadrunner believes.
dan friesen
That's an interesting philosophical perspective.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I think that, you know, in reality you can take...
You know, sort of a measured look at this and say, you know, there are some potential consequences that you could see, and maybe those are things that we can deal with.
Sure.
The alternative is not doing something that you can do that would save a lot of people from sickness and death.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
You know, you gotta balance this out, and I understand why people would have slightly different takes on it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I don't understand why someone would have your take on it.
jordan holmes
What do you mean?
I don't know.
The Roadrunner.
Let's fucking go!
How is that not a take that makes sense to people?
dan friesen
You know what?
It makes more and more sense when you think about it.
So, look.
There's all these headlines.
They're all bullshit.
But we get to the really important piece of information.
And that is that Alex is now mad at Elon Musk.
unidentified
A little bit.
dan friesen
A little bit mad at him.
jordan holmes
Okay, a little bit.
alex jones
Now that I've mentioned it, I'm going to drill back into each stack of great detail.
But first, there's this.
And...
This is a very important story for everybody.
This story isn't just about us.
dan friesen
It's mostly about him.
alex jones
I don't know yet exactly what is actually going on.
We know the specifics of what's happened, but we're not sure if Elon Musk is behind this or if it's Ghost of the Machine.
And employees and people that after he goes by and sees something happening and frees it up, it's a big company, big organization, they come back and incrementally put the shadow banning systems in place.
jordan holmes
Twitter's being mean to you.
alex jones
And it's the first of many articles because I decided to go ahead and talk about it today.
So I told the crew about this morning and they put out one article that just 100% proves in this one area.
InfoWars is being massively censored on X, formerly Twitter.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
He's now calling it X, formerly Twitter.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
It's gone from just X to this hedging.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Oh, this was inevitable.
jordan holmes
It's just so much like learning, man.
Conditional.
Everything about Alex is so conditional.
Just like the slightest change in condition will cause a massive change in circumstance.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we have a situation now where Alex is seeing something he doesn't like on Twitter, and now it's either Elon Musk himself who's responsible for this, or there's stay-behind networks of people within Twitter who Elon hasn't taken care of and needs to deal with.
jordan holmes
There's deep X state, and then there's deep Twitter state.
It's a whole mess.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Factions within the company.
dan friesen
And I think that this is such a complex and nuanced and important issue that Alex realizes that he can't really cover it without getting his exhibits together.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
We've been observing a bunch of other things going on.
This we can prove.
And I've asked people that are way more proficient on social media and tech to investigate it.
And this has been going on for a few weeks.
They're like, absolutely, this is being blocked.
When you put your live show feed up on your own profile, people are going there to find it and they're burying it so only a few percentage of people can actually see the show.
So let's go to X for people watching on TV.
Let's go to the real Alex Jones channel right now and let's show people how normally you have the live show feed.
You know what?
We'll do it later.
Let's just stop now.
jordan holmes
I'm not mad at the crew.
alex jones
This is a big deal, so I need to get the exhibits ready so that we can properly display all this and properly show everyone.
So maybe in a couple hours, maybe we'll revisit it again.
dan friesen
Why did you start?
jordan holmes
How can you start and not realize, oh, I can't continue?
dan friesen
I'm going to talk a little shit.
I'm going to get to the end of the road.
And then I'm going to be like, eh, can't do it.
We'll drive later when the road is built.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
But of course, that's not what Alex does.
alex jones
If you go to Real Alex Jones on X. Here, I'll show you on my phone, actually.
Oh, no, there it is.
Scroll down, please.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
If you go there, keep scrolling, keep scrolling.
A little bit faster.
A little bit faster.
Stop.
jordan holmes
A little bit faster now.
A little bit faster now.
alex jones
On our computers, it's able to be seen right now.
It'll either go up for like an hour, we don't touch it, and then it gets pulled down.
It's still there, but nobody can find it.
Or it's up for five, six hours, it goes away.
Or sometimes nobody can see it.
And so that's another thing that's going on.
dan friesen
It's unfortunate that when you pulled it up, it was there.
So now I don't...
The evidence that you're presenting is counter to what you're saying.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
But then, oh, it disappears sporadically.
Oh, all right.
I don't know.
That's not an exhibit.
jordan holmes
I mean, isn't it something about how websites will sometimes prioritize what shows up on people's stuff by an algorithm of a thing?
dan friesen
I have no idea, but that sounds like shadow banning.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It does.
It sounds like shadow banning.
jordan holmes
It does.
dan friesen
And it turns out that also ban.video links.
Banned.
Which is appropriate, because it's banned on video.
jordan holmes
I mean, aren't all video links of some sort messed around with?
I don't know.
I haven't been on it for forever.
unidentified
Who knows?
dan friesen
I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm sure...
You know what?
Alex is convinced that one of the likely possibilities is that people have been flagging his stuff, and I think that maybe there is a chance that that is true.
unidentified
Yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
Because his shit is wildly offensive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that there's a chance that people are just like, fuck this.
And maybe that's causing some things to be hidden or whatever, but he's a little bit frustrated about the shadow bank.
unidentified
Oh, poor baby.
alex jones
What we do know that's going on is InfoWarsBand.video platform, censored by ex-users, can't post links or send private messages.
Now, when Elon Musk took back over, or took it over, what was it?
A year plus ago, he said he would bring freedom, you know, back.
And I think to a certain extent he has.
He's certainly himself been.
jordan holmes
That's not how freedom works.
alex jones
It was irrevocably damaging.
There was something very positive about that.
But then when he brought me back on three months ago, we weren't allowed to do spaces.
We weren't allowed to post Band Out Video.
It got raised to him.
He said, yeah, we've got to reconnect all that.
There's a lot of connections.
Sometimes the defaults turn back on.
And so Band Out Video, you can send the link out for a while.
But now all of a sudden you can't send it out and it gives you a notice saying that you need to go talk to and follow a link so that you can learn how you violated the rules.
dan friesen
This is very scandalous.
Band of video links don't work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Your eyebrow is raised.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
What is everybody expecting to happen?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think I can sort of tell you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex wants to just do whatever he wants.
jordan holmes
I mean, but isn't that...
Okay.
Here's what I'm saying, right?
So if you are Elon Musk or whatever, and you're like, oh, I'm bringing freedom!
Don't you flag Alex's account as just like...
We don't ban this guy.
For whatever reason, just untouchable.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, a little bit later, that is exactly what Alex wants.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He wants to be on some list of people who are immune from any kind of anything.
jordan holmes
But that's the idea.
That's the whole idea of bringing quote-unquote freedom.
That's what fascism is, is some people get all the freedom, and other people get zero of the freedom.
dan friesen
And the people that you give that freedom to are people who are most likely to...
Stub their toe and start screaming at you.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because they're little babies.
jordan holmes
Because they're little babies.
And Alex and Elon are essentially identical emotionally.
dan friesen
But you know what the problem with that is?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
He's now created so many Alexes on Twitter.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
That you would have to give it to all of these accounts.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
And then, you know, that kind of ruins the exclusivity of it.
Much like the VIP microchips.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well.
dan friesen
That were the mark of the beast.
But Elon's Neuralink is not.
jordan holmes
The idea of a human being not recognizing that you can bring freedom or you can bring no freedom.
You can't bring a little bit of freedom.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's not how that works.
dan friesen
But he has for his own account, which is what Alex is pointing out here.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's done it for himself.
Great.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But the problem, I think, was that there was an expectation led by Musk himself that Twitter was now going to be the...
Wiggy, wiggy, wild, wild west.
jordan holmes
Oh, did he perhaps say something up front and then not deliver?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is confused about, was he just pretending?
alex jones
Definitely, we've seen mass throttling that's been intensifying the last month or so, and all the other conservatives and people and populists I've talked to see that.
So, here's the deal.
I've been looking at this for a while.
Well, if you go into the comments on the live feed, people are posting their experiences, what they've seen.
And there's a lot of things they're seeing, a lot of things they're screen capturing, a lot of things they're getting video captures of.
And so I think we're at the stage here of finding how bad the manipulation is on X. What does that mean?
Way more open and free.
Let's say when Musk took over...
Freedom on there was about, on a scale of 1 to 100, about a 2. Then Musk brought it back up to, like, let's say an 80, as 100 being the best.
And now it's starting to drop down to, like, 70. We need to have a discussion about that and find out why that is and what changes have been made.
Or is he doing what Google did 25 years ago, where they're open and free at first, get everybody on the platform, and it works so great and it's so wonderful.
Then over time, they start bringing in controls.
Until now, it's a complete and total fraud.
I mean, is that all he was doing was buying it, Wild Wild Westing it for a while, kind of reinvigorate it and give it market dominance, and then start going back to what all the other tech giants did?
I mean, I've said I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt, but we're going to watch all this very, very closely.
But this is such a complex issue.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
Two days ago, you were saying you had nothing but satisfaction from Musk, and now this has been lingering for a while?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a little weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's been researching this for weeks.
He spent a couple of those weeks right with his nose up Elon's butt.
dan friesen
Pretending to talk to a fake Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So Elon probably wasn't just pretending to want to turn Twitter into a Wild Wild West, but I'm guessing that in the time since buying the company, he's just learned that there was a reason why certain things that Alex calls censorship were in place.
Unfortunately for him, he's probably learned too late.
He told advertisers to go fuck themselves, and now people who paid for their check marks so they could make money off engagement harvesting are mad that they're not getting paid.
It's not a model that's viable in the long term, unless you want to pay out of pocket to run your site so you can let shitheads post nonsense.
And now, Musk is going to learn why any engagement with Alex is probably a bad idea.
He cracked open the door to let Alex back on, and what do you know, Alex ended up finding a conspiracy deep in the company that he's going to incite people around about why he's not popular enough.
I'm just a humble outside observer, but I would bet that Alex maybe realized that the shit he did on Friday was a little peasant.
And that his support of Musk didn't match where his audience was at.
This is an attempt to realign his position with the audience by creating a completely meaningless complaint about Twitter that he demands Elon fix.
This was somewhat inevitable, as I've been saying for a bit.
The correct conspiracy theorist position is not to trust Musk at all, and Alex is trying to get right with the game now, which David Icke was right about from the jump.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that explains a lot of this recalibration that Alex is doing.
jordan holmes
I think...
I appreciate Alex in this regard.
For one reason.
And that is because, referring back to our weakest link, you know, like, Alex is just the weakest link of the propaganda chain.
It's very clear, very transparent what's going on.
Man.
When he is making a lesser of two evil arguments, it lays bare how stupid the concept is entirely.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Whenever you're like, whenever Alex Jones is making the same, like, no, here's why you should fucking, W is better than, no, you're done.
We're all done with lesser of two evil arguments.
unidentified
Get out of here.
dan friesen
I disagree.
I disagree with you there.
I don't think all lesser of two argument evil, lesser of two evil arguments is, I don't think they're all inherently meaningless or anything.
I do agree with you that sometimes they can be limiting in terms of imagining a better world.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, if you've got Alex saying it, then come on.
dan friesen
Well, I think that it lays bare more how ridiculous Alex's principles are and shit.
Because, you know, in the same way that, like...
Alex would never equivocate about someone putting chips in your brain if it wasn't someone like Elon Musk who he has a vested interest in.
That principle that should be there is not there because he has this, well, he's not as bad as other tech platforms.
And that's not something that he would, a grace that he would afford in any other situation.
If there's another billionaire who's putting chips in people.
jordan holmes
No, exactly.
That's exactly what you're saying.
I mean, yeah.
If it's a principle...
Then it's an all or nothing principle.
You can't have a little bit.
You can't be like, hey listen, anybody who puts chips in your brain is evil.
Except this guy who puts a few chips in your brain.
Nope, that's not how it works.
It's either all or nothing with this kind of thing.
That's your principle.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I agree with that for the most part.
So Alex is gonna really get down to the bottom of this.
The way he's gonna do that is he's gonna have some meetings with some people.
About Musk during the show.
In the breaks, I guess.
I think he's going to talk to Chase Geiser.
unidentified
That makes sense.
dan friesen
I think that's what's going to happen.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
alex jones
What I'm going to do is cover all the other news and then I'm going to collect all this data and talk to the crew and tell them what I want to show and during the breaks have a few meetings and then I will do a little presentation on this and tell you what I really think coming up at the bottom of the next hour.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But I was sitting here today thinking, you know, should I even cover this?
Or should I let it keep developing and just find out more?
dan friesen
Probably the latter.
alex jones
I said no.
jordan holmes
And then I couldn't stop myself from talking about it.
alex jones
I've been noticing this for a couple months now and it's been intensifying.
jordan holmes
Couple months!
alex jones
That's outright banning that on the platform.
The link can't be uploaded, it can't be sent, it can't be shared.
Now, you know, the backup of that is MadMaxWorld.tv.
MadMaxWorld.tv.
One, two, three, four, go.
dan friesen
Yes, here's that mirrored site that you can maybe get links through.
But here's the thing that I find really interesting, is that when Alex was being confronted by David Icke, he did say some stuff like this, that Musk was censoring him on Twitter or that Twitter was censoring him.
There was some, like, but it was a throwaway thing.
It wasn't really even that big of an issue for him.
So this idea that he's felt that his posts weren't getting enough engagement That, I do think, probably has been lingering for a couple months or whatever, maybe his whole life, but it's incongruent that then he would have this defensive-ass spectacle two days before this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it is...
dan friesen
Three days before.
jordan holmes
It is fucked up because it is the pattern that we see all too often of, like, sure, in private, I was more than aware of how bad Elon was.
But for public-facing conversation, I had to present it as a completely different thing.
And that's why you can trust me.
dan friesen
How much different is that than what Alex was even saying on that Friday episode?
He shits gold and, you know, like, yo, hey, I'm not going to be mad when...
I get all this stuff out of it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So yeah, I mean, it is.
He's saying that publicly, which is bizarre.
jordan holmes
And it's his vacillating bullshit, too, of like, oh, I can't believe he's doing that.
Well, but it's better than not being on Twitter.
Ah, but this isn't perfect.
Ah, but at least I'm on there, you know, like, it's ridiculous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So you have another bit of news blitz.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
A lot of blitz, but there's just some headlines.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
And just like that...
We accelerate from two minutes to midnight to ten seconds to midnight.
This is the London Telegraph.
jordan holmes
Nine.
Eight.
alex jones
Ukraine-Russia war.
NATO and EU members considering sending troops to Ukraine.
I told you about a month ago, I remember the German defense minister said we're getting ready for a 25, 30-year war.
The Swedish defense minister said get ready for war as early as next February.
That was just like, I guess it was late December.
The British Defense Ministry said, we're going to war with Russia, prepare for a national draft.
And now I've got a stack of corporate news here, just reporting on it like, oh, hey, did you hear a cat was stuck in a tree down the street?
And now the New York Times is like, oh, the CIA's been there fighting the Russians for at least 10 years.
Yeah, we overthrew the pro-Russian government.
Started pushing them damn Russians out, killing them.
Those bastards tried to fight back.
Now we're just going to send in NATO and whoop their ass.
We're the good guys.
dan friesen
Okay.
So this is based on a really weird comment that French President Emmanuel Macron made after a recent meeting of European heads of state in Paris.
Macron said, quote, there's no consensus today to officially, openly, and with endorsement send troops on the ground.
But in terms of dynamics, nothing should be ruled out.
We'll do everything necessary to ensure that Russia cannot win this war.
Almost immediately, pretty much all of the European countries came out and like, we're totally not sending troops, dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz tried to clarify, quote, once again, in a very good debate, it was discussed that what was agreed from the outset among ourselves and with each other also applies to the future, namely that there will be no ground troops, no soldiers on Ukrainian soil sent there by European countries or NATO states.
NATO Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg came out and said they weren't sending troops.
Macron was talking shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And as for the CIA thing, the New York Times did just do a big story about the partnership between the CIA and the intelligence agency in Ukraine, but they didn't say any of the stuff that Alex is claiming.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The partnership was initiated by Ukraine and happened after the ouster of Yanukovych, so Alex has the timeline completely wrong and is just making up details.
But yeah, so they're gonna send troops.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, you know, this is one of those times where It is so big that whenever I...
It's almost like reading about fiction.
Whenever somebody's like, ah, the CIA has been working with the government of Ukraine since after Yanukovych fell.
I'm like, I live in Chicago.
I have a Walgreens that I go to regularly.
I get what you're saying.
But also, at the same time, there's a part of me that goes, I feel like I'm crazy.
I feel like I'm absolutely insane that I even know that.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
That's crazy!
dan friesen
Well, I think that...
I don't know if there was a reason that you wouldn't think that...
jordan holmes
There's also that.
dan friesen
But it's more a function of providing resources and collaborating than it is like...
The CIA is troops that are there killing Russians or anything.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If you read that article, there's a lot of wrestling with the ability to trust the Ukrainian side that the U.S. agencies had.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then also wrestling with, like, we can't do anything that is going to reasonably expect reasonably to cause lethal consequences.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So there was a lot of, like, going out of the way to be like, We can't do anything that's going to cause them to...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We have to try and help without helping.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So it's kind of, you know...
I don't know.
It is interesting.
And it is weird to know it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's not at all what Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is one of those things where it feels like we started off somewhere.
And then somewhere somebody took a little bit of a wrong turn, and on the way to being like, maybe if we get back on track, we'll go a little bit closer.
And then now here we are like 40 years later, and everybody is like, boy, I think we've got to start all over.
dan friesen
You've got to shake it like a net just sketch.
jordan holmes
We've got to start all over, man.
dan friesen
Well, that's probably not the best plan either.
So, Rothschild, Jacob Rothschild, dead.
jordan holmes
Dead!
alex jones
And I guess he's transcended on to meet his god, Little G. Is his god Little G?
unidentified
I love that guy.
alex jones
And if you go to my X account, there's some pretty fun little memes from The Simpsons.
The one where you look in the mirror and it shows what you look like in hell.
And of course, Mr. Burns is what this guy's actually based off of, is Lord Rothschild.
The creators even admitted that.
And he looks in the mirror and he's...
Like a king in hell.
So I guess that's the joke, is it's better to reign in hell than serve in heaven, but you really don't reign in hell, do you?
dan friesen
No.
See, that was your mistake.
So this is completely made up.
Alex thinks that Jacob Rothschild looks like Mr. Burns, and there have been a bunch of memes people posted on social media claiming he's the inspiration for the character, but that is all made up.
Matt Groening based Mr. Burns on a composite of John D. Rockefeller, the former head of Fox Broadcasting, Barry Diller, and his high school teacher, Mr. Bailey.
This is a good opportunity to once again highlight the way Alex takes information that he's either making up or he got from shithead memes, which he's turning around and presenting as fact to the audience.
In a case like this, it's kind of trivial, just about the basis.
See, now here's the thing, though.
jordan holmes
I find this backwards, right?
This is not at all trivial.
This is about the fucking Simpsons.
This is some serious shit.
dan friesen
This is the difference in our uprising.
jordan holmes
This is don't fuck around shit, right?
I don't give a shit what the CIA is doing in Ukraine.
Don't fuck with the Simpsons, my man.
Seasons 2 through 9 or 11, depending on what your preference is.
dan friesen
Sure.
I grew up not being allowed to watch the Simpsons because it promoted bad family values.
So I missed out on a lot of it and I don't have the same emotional connection as you do.
jordan holmes
That's why you know more about the CIA in Ukraine.
dan friesen
I get what you're saying.
So Alex is in a bad mood.
And it's probably definitely because of Twitter.
alex jones
I'm in a really bad mood right now.
So I'm really working as hard as I can to be friendly and nice and not be too mean.
But just while we were in the break, because I'm not a big ex-guy, I don't ferret through all the sub-channels and messages.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
alex jones
We got a message that I'd been flagged for doing something wrong last night.
And so that's why our video was removed.
And then I guess there is a ghost in the machine because people that hadn't restarted X could still see it, and that's why people couldn't.
So X did take down last night's show, and they will not let us send out the name Bandot Video.
And so that's a big deal that Elon Musk's operation is doing that.
He needs to fix that.
We need to reach out to folks there, and we need to get a statement from him.
dan friesen
So this is the new story that's developing, and it has to do with last night's show, the Sunday show.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so that will develop as this goes along, but this is the point where Alex is like, all right, I'm coming up with a storyline of why this is happening.
And, spoiler alert, it's because he thinks it's because he talked about Bongino's dumb shit on Sunday's show.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so the man is lashing out at him and shadow banning him.
jordan holmes
Because of the 26 names.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The non-existent document that Alex is calling a document.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So this has to be, like, automatic, right?
The algorithm is just doing what it's supposed to do.
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
Because I can't imagine a person working for X being like, well, this will make Elon happy.
Block.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure.
I think that from what I understand, because I went to the InfoWars article about this, there are a number of screenshots that have someone posting a link.
To Alex's tweet that is, I guess, the live show link or whatever.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And it'll have the link in the body of the tweet, and then the link itself will have the text like, this content is unavailable.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that is maybe just Twitter being shitty.
I don't even know if that's a function of some kind of banning or whatever.
Because I've seen that in the case of some people's tweets.
I'm certainly not on Twitter as much as most people.
But I've seen that in the case of some misinformation researchers and stuff that I have on the follows.
So I don't know.
I think it might just be...
Something that happens on Twitter because it's a shitty site.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Because they gutted it and got rid of all the stuff.
dan friesen
I'm not ready to ascribe some kind of backlash to dumb shit, but Dan Bongino said.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably.
dan friesen
Especially if Dan Bongino's videos aren't also getting this same thing.
So, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Bongino, how you doing, buddy?
dan friesen
He's doing good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, shit.
dan friesen
So Alex runs down some headlines here, and then he needs to self-soothe.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
All right.
We talk about that quickening, but it's so intense right now, I got smoke coming out of my ears.
News is pouring in as NATO puts out through the press.
They're preparing to invade Ukraine and go full war with Russia.
And the left is screaming and yelling and absolutely loving it.
They just want nuclear war.
They want mass death.
We're in so much trouble.
I mean, we are literally in the hands of Satan right now.
Speaking of Satan, Lord Rothschild, the fourth Baron of Rothschild.
Just made the jump into the fiery furnace.
I guess Lucifer is summoning his legions.
And we'll get into that more here in a moment, as I promised to, and a bunch of other big news.
We have big financial news breaking as well we'll be getting to in the third hour.
But first, I love this V for Vendetta intro.
It always makes me feel happy, so let's just play that, then I'll try to calm it a little bit.
jordan holmes
I just...
You know?
unidentified
There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak.
dan friesen
I need to play some beef for Red Dead to feel better.
jordan holmes
I mean, sometimes when somebody does that in public, you know, that is...
If I'm an adult, I wouldn't just put a pacifier in my mouth and start sucking on it in public.
I'm just saying that I take the train.
dan friesen
Well, there's an element to this that I don't know if it is exactly self-soothing.
I think he might just be like, I need to get off air for a little while.
I'm frustrated, or it's buying some time, or whatever.
A little calm A, a little calm B. Maybe, but it does seem weird that the way he's presenting it is, I'm really mad right now, I need to feel better by watching this Vendetta clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that seems like a very, I don't know, childish process.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because then the...
Because you've raised the possibility of two things.
Either he is doing this, or he wants people to think he's doing that, which is crazy!
dan friesen
Or he thinks it's the most sensible explanation.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
Which is weird.
jordan holmes
I would prefer people think that I was sitting here with a pacifier in my mouth than them think that I was going into the back room to take a gigantic swig of whiskey.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Which is fair!
dan friesen
Or Tito's.
jordan holmes
It could be.
dan friesen
So, uh...
Alex comes back feeling better, but not really.
alex jones
I'm going to drill into those articles.
I'm going to drill into Trump winning so big in South Carolina and the response to that.
Why it's so historical that he got double the amount of votes anybody ever got in a primary.
Double what he got in 2000.
Double what he got in 2016.
I mean, this is wild.
And so much more.
And then we've been investigating...
Clearly the algorithmic throttling and censorship at X that's intensifying.
dan friesen
Oh, man, still mad.
So it is true that Trump got way more votes in the South Carolina primary than he did in 2016.
In fairness, in that race, there were five other candidates, two of them being fairly violent.
Right, right, right.
And this is definitely not the most votes anyone has ever gotten in a primary.
That's ridiculous.
Trump got a little over 450,000 votes in the state, whereas people in the California primary generally get over 2 million.
I guess if Alex met the most votes in a South Carolina primary, that might be true.
But it's not necessarily as huge of news as he's making this out to seem.
Yeah.
unidentified
Setting records.
dan friesen
but it is a lot but that's also because of the circumstances we're in it's a one-on-one race with someone who's you know
jordan holmes
I'm fascinated by what I read about this because it seems like so many people who write about this are ignoring one very obvious thing about polls that we're talking about right now, which is that a large amount of people are voting with the intent of the person they're voting for hurting other people.
Like, they're voting for hurt.
They're voting for, I want this person to hurt others.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's a bad motivation.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
What policy are...
Like, okay, Trump is going to be more like a 27% progressive tax?
Like, no.
No, he's going to hurt people at the border.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
He's going to hurt people in the government.
dan friesen
Yeah, but...
jordan holmes
He's going to hurt people.
dan friesen
But people who have the attraction to these policies that are going to just hurt people have rationalizations around them.
Like...
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's going to hurt immigrants.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Certainly, but they've rationalized that there is an invasion of the country, and so what Trump is doing is not hurting immigrants, he's helping the country and saving it from an invasion.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So it's not, you know, there's ways to talk yourself into it not being about hurting.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm not talking about them.
I'm talking about the other side.
Like, I don't understand why people aren't looking at that and going, ooh, a lot of the people who live here...
Want to physically hurt me.
dan friesen
I think people might be looking at it that way.
jordan holmes
I feel like it's not quite engendering a serious response.
dan friesen
I think people are having a response.
Maybe it's not as strong as you would like it to be, but I think there's a response.
jordan holmes
I was going to get it hurt.
dan friesen
So, someone at Twitter.
BannedBanned.Video, which again is in the name.
Right.
jordan holmes
So it seems appropriate.
dan friesen
It is.
If I saw Banned.Video, I'd be like, ban that shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's asking me to ban it, thereby giving it value.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Musk needs to fix this shit.
alex jones
Go to MadMaxWorld.TV and those links when you send them out of whatever live feed or video you're finding will work on X, which is important in the info war.
We created that because before Banned.Video was banned everywhere, but especially on Twitter.
Once Musk let me back on, for three months or so, it worked.
Now it doesn't work again.
So did somebody go in there and flip some switches?
Did it happen under Elon Musk order?
So we know that's going on.
And so we're just starting to look into this more.
jordan holmes
What exactly is that?
alex jones
And I'm not going to go off half-cocked.
But if...
Elon Musk doesn't give a reason why Bandot Video's been banned, or if he doesn't fix it, he doesn't have to make a statement, obviously.
And I know some of the high-level people at X, whenever I was unable to get turned back on for Spaces, and I had to do that interview with Elon Musk on Chase Geyser's account, he said, yeah, there's a lot of stuff on the back end that's got to be fixed, a lot of links that have got to be done, the censorship's baked into the thing.
Basically, he said Twitter's, he didn't say basically, he said...
Twitter was a crime scene.
And so I'm still trying to fix all the code they put in there to control things that mess things up.
And I tend to think that's the case.
Okay?
Because why would he go do all that and then allow it to be reversed?
I think somebody's game in the system.
But you can say, well, a bunch of bots went and flagged your show last night.
That's why it was pulled down last night.
Okay, well, did bots ban dot video?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
That was done deliberately inside.
So we have one case of incredible censorship going against what Elon Musk said that's happening.
So Elon needs to fix that.
And I'm not going to make a big deal about it if suddenly Bandai video gets turned back on.
We know it was a glitch or something.
But if it just stays like that, I'm going to be like, hey, dude, what's going on, man?
dan friesen
Oh, that's harsh.
Hey, dude, what's going on, man?
jordan holmes
Bruh!
Bro!
dan friesen
I think that what's going on is Alex is making a demand of Musk, and he's creating a scenario wherein he can have a personal complaint to base some kind of breaking with.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But the alternative is also pretty attractive, which is Musk does what Alex wants, and then he has basically made the owner of the site subservient to his whims.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so that's, you know, it's a win-win for Alex, really.
jordan holmes
It's like a pin in chess, you know?
Doesn't matter what you do, I'm gonna take one of your pieces.
dan friesen
Yeah, he can not respond, and Alex...
jordan holmes
Perfect!
You're done!
dan friesen
He can respond?
jordan holmes
I hate you, you evil monster!
dan friesen
Or at least it can lead down that road.
Yeah.
It's an opportunity to...
Break away from the clearly off-branded, mistaken hero worship of Musk.
jordan holmes
We thought he was a good guy because he took over Twitter, but it turns out he was a globalist.
dan friesen
So, um, Jacob Rothschild, dead.
And Alex plays, I have to apologize in advance for the audio of this clip.
It is unlistenable.
But Alex remembers that Luke Radowski from We Are Change and Tim Pool's co-host now, he, at one point in history, confronted Jacob Rothschild.
And so Alex plays a clip of that, and it sounds like shit.
alex jones
Here's Luke Radowski, this is like eight years ago, who's done the best peaceful, friendly, professional confrontations with globalists I've ever seen.
In front of like 300 plus of them?
Try to get Luke on the next few days.
In front of Henry Kissinger a whole bunch of times.
He's in front of basically anybody who's anybody in the New World Order.
Here he is talking to the head of the Rothschild dynasty.
unidentified
Mr. Rothschild, how are you doing, sir?
Can you tell us what went on at the Bilderberg meeting this year?
Sorry?
Can you tell us what went on at the Bilderberg meeting this year?
I didn't get that, actually, no.
alex jones
At the Bilderberg, you were there?
unidentified
No.
I'm a million years old!
No, I wasn't there, I was there.
I think that was my cousin.
Your cousin was there?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
Do you have a couple of minutes for us, Mr. Lusher?
We'll have a few of those questions.
I was definitely talking inside of it, because I was thinking about the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes
This is on the nose.
As far as, like, conspiracy basis goes.
I was thinking it was my cousin.
See?
Well, that proves everything we need to know.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, the questions that are being asked are, what happened at Bilderberg?
I wasn't there.
jordan holmes
Wasn't there.
dan friesen
What about last year?
Wasn't there either.
unidentified
Maybe my cousin wasn't.
dan friesen
Just completely unlistenable.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You can't make out anything that anybody's saying.
jordan holmes
But it's in that chunk that the most important stuff happened.
dan friesen
Of course it did.
So, actually, that's not true.
The most important thing, as it turns out, from Alex's telling of this, is that he gave Luke a look.
He gave him a look.
And we're going to hear Alex talk about that look here.
jordan holmes
Let's hear back a look.
alex jones
He actually did a big BBC interview.
It was more than ten years ago.
He admitted to founding Israel, or his dad.
He admitted to the Napoleonic Wars.
jordan holmes
Can you admit to those?
alex jones
That they did the run on the bank in 1815 after the Battle of Waterloo claiming Napoleon won, caused the bank to crash.
They bought a 98% stock market, literally.
So they were already the most powerful force in the British Empire.
Then they used an artificial crash they instituted to get control of it.
They brag about that.
That's in...
Mainline history books.
jordan holmes
I think they should brag about that if they pulled it off.
alex jones
But go to about the last five, ten seconds where he gives Luke a look, a real Rothschild look, just for a second.
And he's acting real friendly and gentlemanly, but just for a minute, you see the demon.
He just, for a minute, like, oh, you see me, sonny boy.
You see who I am, and it's because Luke was polite.
But he also said perfectly, you have no legitimacy.
And free humanity rejects what you're doing, and we will stop you.
And Robson goes, what?
Because they've lived in this world, these globalists, where they get to do all this stuff to us, and then they have the media say they don't exist.
You finally say, listen, I'm calling you out.
I have a damn right to live.
I don't want to be under your control.
And he's like, wait a minute, let me get a closer look at you.
Let me, right here.
Mmm.
Yeah, a few frames further.
jordan holmes
Are we doing frame by frame video?
alex jones
Right there.
jordan holmes
To see when a look of true demonic presence happened?
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Right there.
Right there.
unidentified
Cool, cool, cool.
alex jones
He's like, oh, you got me.
dan friesen
So this is the level of shit we're dealing with here.
Jacob Rothschild gave Luke Radowski a quizzical look for a split second, and Alex has decided to write a story about how they prove there's a demon inside him.
Utter garbage.
And for what it's worth, Jacob Rothschild never admitted to the Napoleon Bank thing, because that's an anti-Semitic fiction that traces back to Nazi propaganda and a bigot pamphleteer who went by the pen name Satan.
It's not true, so there's nothing to admit to.
Alex is not exaggerating here, he's just lying.
As for the founding of Israel thing, Alex...
I was thinking of Edmund James de Rothschild who wasn't Jacob's father.
Edmund was from the French branch of the family whereas Jacob's dad Victor Rothschild was from England.
Edmund and Jacob are related through Mayor Amschel Rothschild, who's Edmund's grandfather, and Jacob's great-great-great-great-grandfather, so I have no idea what their familial term would even be.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
Eighth cousin, twice removed or something?
jordan holmes
Not related.
I don't care.
dan friesen
They're technically related, but it's distant-ish.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
So they're all Rothschilds, though, to Alex.
It's all one big thing.
It's a load of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Load of shit.
unidentified
Oh.
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Boy.
dan friesen
But he gave him a look.
jordan holmes
If...
If...
dan friesen
He caught him in that split second, that frame.
jordan holmes
If what we're dealing with, spiritually speaking, is that demons go all Constantine on you, if you're polite...
If that's where we're at in this world, I'm out.
unidentified
I'm out!
Pass!
dan friesen
It is kind of in line with, like, an exorcism.
You know, like, he's basically saying that Luke Gradescu is polite and evoked.
jordan holmes
The power of Christ compels you, and therefore you must show yourself to me.
dan friesen
It's a double Cain situation with a demon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
You said the magic word.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
No, I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
If that's what you've got...
dan friesen
That is what he's got.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
That's what he's got.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
You said it's fine.
jordan holmes
Fine.
That's what you get.
dan friesen
So one thing you might notice is that also Jacob Rothschild is a baron.
A baron to Rothschild.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so Alex talks about that here.
alex jones
By the way, for those that don't know, a baron is like the third in charge.
So he's the fourth baron of Rothschild.
Forrest Baron.
unidentified
Forrest Baron.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It still took him a couple decades after 1815 to get that.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
So...
That's because he wants the legitimacy.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
So in 1846, Anthony Rothschild was made a baron by the Queen.
That same day, two other people were given the title, Henry Robert Ferguson Davey and Frederick Curie Esquire.
Anthony had no male heirs, so the title was passed down to his nephew, who was Nathan Rothschild.
Keep in mind, this is not the Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who's the guy that Alex thinks took over the stock market with the Napoleon trick.
That's this guy's grandson.
Who becomes the Baron.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Nathan Rothschild got the Baron title, and he's Jacob's great-grandfather, so it passed down the line to him.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Barons are not the third in charge.
Alex is just exploiting the fact that this audience has no idea what any of these things mean, and they're just blindly trusting the shit that Alex makes up so he can sound smart.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
There are five titles of peerage for males in the United Kingdom.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Top to bottom, there's Duke, Marquise, Earl, Viscount, and Baron.
The baron is the lowest in this scheme.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
There is so many fucking barons, too.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
It's a third in charge.
jordan holmes
You know, a lot of people have ragged on feudalism for a long time, but now that we know how many barons there are, I think we should bring it back!
Give me a fief!
dan friesen
And now, if you even include, like...
Knights!
jordan holmes
Sure!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely!
dan friesen
They're a little bit above Knights.
jordan holmes
Give me a GCBGE or whatever it is.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex is a little bit off about this Barron thing.
Third in charge.
unidentified
Man.
dan friesen
Fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Okay, let me throw this out at you, okay?
If you're a Luke Radowski type, you're fighting against the globalists.
But if you've been around 300-plus confrontations with globalists...
dan friesen
And multiple with Kissinger, which have clearly been very fruitful.
jordan holmes
Then you work for them, right?
There's no way you don't work for them.
You are in some way their stooge.
dan friesen
You're doing opposition PR.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Because if you're at all a threat, then you get maybe two or three.
Like, most people aren't talking to me for a second time.
Let's put it that way.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Nor Alex.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But that doesn't mean Alex is a threat either.
unidentified
Nah, that's true.
dan friesen
It means he's more abrasive and annoying.
That's a little bit both for me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's how you get the demons.
dan friesen
So look, speaking of that demon, Alex is really obsessed with this split-second look.
alex jones
And what they have is an incredible...
Disgust for the public.
An arrogance that is just immeasurable.
But that look, just keep rolling that last few seconds in a loop so you can see it.
It's a look of, I can't stand you.
I hate you.
You're so pathetic and little.
Look at you, you pitiful thing.
You don't have a shot.
But I'm scared of you.
That you see what I am and you know what I am.
Just roll that last part of Luke.
Just roll that last part over and over again.
Because right there is everything you need to see.
Everything you need to know.
dan friesen
It's a look that clearly translates to a lot.
You know, it's a...
Speech in a moment.
jordan holmes
There's a part of me that is like, okay, when I say this is kind of like evolution, there is a...
So much of what we see is based on pattern recognition and the fact that we've evolved in such a way as to look at each other and the slightest facial changes are so important to the social survival of the group.
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
That now we look up at clouds and we see shapes.
We look up at things and we see shapes.
Our brains make these things happen in order to protect us, right?
Like, Alex...
Creating such a moment out of one little facial expression and the way he transforms that into a demon.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You apply that to how he looks at a cloud and you're like, it does make sense.
Like, every guy going, huh?
Is a demon to him?
A cloud is insane!
dan friesen
Sure.
I think it is illustrative of the way that, you know, obviously, you're right.
I mean, like, body language and facial expressions are a huge part of communication.
Sure.
but Alex is off on how to read them.
Yeah.
unidentified
And he's, he's reading all of this stuff.
dan friesen
And, and there is a question, I guess, to how much of it is convenient.
Sure, sure, sure.
Broken.
jordan holmes
It's just jacked.
Is he just a fucked up ape that has a weird little skirt and then that's it?
dan friesen
I think that that would explain a whole lot of the constantly seeing demons in the grocery store and people's expressions changing to that of a demon and stuff.
That could explain if he just has...
No ability to read those social cues and facial expressions and that form of communication.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or if it is all just misinterpreted.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm scared less of Alex than I am of just brains.
Just brains in general.
Fucking anything can go on up there.
dan friesen
You mean like Krang?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You don't know?
He could be in your gut right now.
dan friesen
He is scary.
Yeah.
There's someone who worked at Infowars.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Don't know who it is.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
But this person got sucked in by the Royals.
jordan holmes
Josh Owens?
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
But this one got sucked in by the Royals.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And let me tell you, that whole sycophantic society of the Royals is another thing that compromises so many good people in the UK.
People we worked with for a long time who were good folks a decade ago got invited into the British circle and hung out with...
The echelons right beneath the Queen and King Charles.
dan friesen
Lord Moncton?
Who is it?
alex jones
And just like that, they got sucked into a black hole, never to be effective or do anything good again.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
That's how they work.
dan friesen
Farage?
No.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
Now, if we can suck Elon Musk into liberty and get him to fight tyranny.
jordan holmes
Don't say it like that.
alex jones
If he wants to join us, then the door is open.
But make no mistake, I'm not being sucked in by Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Don't say it like that.
alex jones
I'm not entertaining that with the establishment, like David Icke has said.
And I like David, but I see the good Musk is doing.
I encourage him to go in the right direction.
I criticize the bad.
I support the good.
But let's make no mistake.
I'm here to convert people to the pro-human, pro-God destiny.
dan friesen
Okay.
So Alex is absolutely getting sucked in by Musk.
What he's doing now is trying to pretend to have a spine because he embarrassed himself with his subservience in the last episode.
You may notice that Alex is claiming that he's thrilled with the good from Musk and criticizes the bad, but that's not true.
He's not criticizing the bad, which should be things like Musk's government contracts or his desire to put chips in people.
Alex is criticizing something really personal, which is his feeling that he's being shadow banned.
This isn't a real criticism about Musk, anything that he's doing.
It's really more of a press gambit.
What Alex is doing is trying to drive traffic to his Twitter and band-od video, while at the same time hoping to provoke a response from Elon.
If Elon just unblocks Alex's shit, if it's even blocked to begin with, Alex will be able to claim that he has pull with Musk.
Or even better, maybe the two of them can get into a little fight that nets both of them a bunch of attention.
The kind of fight where Alex is totally sincere about his complaint that he yells about for a really long time, then drops it really fast once his target gives him the attention that he craves.
We've seen that happen.
jordan holmes
I mean, any moment now he's going to gut Joe Rogan like a pig.
He promised in the past.
dan friesen
Well, that dropped whenever he got rebooked.
So I'm super curious, though, which one of Alex's buddies got sucked in by the Royals.
I definitely don't believe it.
Unless what Alex means is that someone who worked there became a big fan of the Kansas City Royals.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that might be...
jordan holmes
They had a couple of good years.
dan friesen
True.
Was that about ten years ago?
alex jones
Um...
jordan holmes
It was about ten years ago.
dan friesen
Might be.
Might be what happened.
jordan holmes
Could be what happened, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has a belief that is incorrect, and that is that he doesn't censor on his sites, which is not true.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
But, yeah, he goes from there to deeply unconfirmed territory.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now, we've had issues, because we're a small company, compared to something like X or Google or Facebook.
And so we would have glitches and problems and things on band-out video, and people would think we were censoring them.
Or members that we have on there had trouble uploading.
I'd see them complaining, and I'd later find out, oh, it crashed, we had problems.
It's been a hassle.
It runs pretty good, but it's had some problems.
So I understand that there can be other things going on, so I'm giving it most of the benefit of the doubt.
Watching obvious squeezing going on in the last few months that's intensified.
We're following all their rules.
They're not hard to follow because we never did any things that they claimed we did before.
We're not threatening anybody.
We're not showing porn.
We're not doing any illegal things.
And Musk said he was trying to go back to that system that was there before.
jordan holmes
Showing porn?
alex jones
Before six, seven years ago.
So that's a good thing.
So we're still here watching it.
But I had a feeling last night when Dan Bongino showed some of the secret document about not just surveillance, but harassment.
And this goes back to 2016 when President Trump was president-elect.
We know Obama put in these stay-behind networks.
Part of it was declassified.
He had to sign the legislation in the Defense Authorization Act before Trump got in to put it in place.
So that's why a lot of this is public.
Kind of old vestiges of the old republic where things had to be transparent.
We knew about it.
But here's Bongino explaining what's going on or how we're being bumped or harassed or terrorized.
And I had a feeling when I did that last night, they'd probably censor it, and they did.
So I think if you look at all the evidence, it was a lot of the deep staters activating their bot armies and things.
Anytime we criticize NATO or anything, it's up to you.
I see some of the throttling back as well.
But here's the clip with Bongino.
And again, Bongino used to come on all the time.
We need him to come on and obviously talk about this document, talk about more of it.
And I'll be perturbed if he doesn't come on, but we've reached out, so that's an open call right there that he should come on.
dan friesen
I don't think you're going to hear back.
So you got this now.
The story is developed into, we covered this Bongino thing, and obviously the deep state is attacking us for it, which raises the question of why is Bongino not, and then secondarily, what about the ban.video being banned?
That doesn't help with that at all.
So we still have some confusion with the narrative, but Alex has decided that this is the path that we're going to ascribe this part of the censorship to because it works.
It makes this seem like much more dangerous information.
It creates a whole new sort of side narrative out of this.
And, yeah, cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the only thing that I say is a good, like, add-on, I would add this.
Make a new site.
Called Bongino.video.
dan friesen
Only play that clip.
Bandgino.
jordan holmes
Bandgino.video.
I like it.
dan friesen
There we go.
I think it could stick.
jordan holmes
If it portmanteaus, it goes.
dan friesen
That's what they say.
So Alex gives Elon Musk a time frame under which he must respond.
jordan holmes
He must respond.
alex jones
There's a lot of monkey business going on, not just starting last night.
And of course, we have proof.
Band.video, which was banned for years on Twitter.
Was brought back as soon as Musk freed us up three, four months ago.
Now, banned out video is banned again.
So if somebody went in there and blocked that, Elon Musk either needs to behind the scenes restore it, or if he'd like to make a statement of why he's done this, then I'll listen to him.
But this is a big deal.
We're a big story.
We're a big news outlet.
And I've really supported what he's done so far.
But I've got some numbers I can call to get messages to Musk.
I'm going to do that after the show today.
And I'll give him a week or so.
I know he's a busy guy, but I think he needs to respond to this, Jason.
chase geiser
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
dan friesen
He's got a week to respond.
Also, Chase Geyser's in the studio hanging out now.
jordan holmes
I like a good week deadline.
I like a good week ultimatum.
dan friesen
But he makes them pretty regularly and then never sticks to them.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
He gave the people who are behind Q a week to reveal themselves before he does that.
unidentified
I recall them.
dan friesen
He's going to expose everything and that never happened.
jordan holmes
He almost did.
dan friesen
It happens a bit.
These ultimatums just go...
I mean, it is very similar to a lot of geopolitical things with red lines.
Sure, sure, sure.
Sometimes they don't fully materialize.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we used to think that it was wrong to hurt people, but apparently that's not a bad thing for governments.
dan friesen
But that's where Alex is.
He's weak.
And we're not a week past the 26th, so this time hasn't passed yet.
I don't know what has happened.
I don't know if Musk is...
Really trying to craft the perfect response.
Really sitting with a team of writers and lawyers, trying to come up with, ooh, how are we going to respond to Alex?
jordan holmes
What do you think his statement would be?
In Alex's mind, alright?
dan friesen
Here's what his statement would be.
What the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Alright, but Alex's mind statement.
So Alex is thinking, if he comes out with a statement, which is him at a podium doing the thing.
dan friesen
Here's what I think Alex thinks.
There isn't going to be a statement, but he'll just give Alex what he wants.
That's what I think Alex is thinking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
There'll be a quiet, under the rug, oh, here, we fixed it.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
Or whatever, and then blame it on some kind of rogue actor who was there.
That's what I think Alex thinks is going to happen.
So Chase Geyser is sitting in because he's a tech expert.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex explains his ideal solution.
jordan holmes
Okay.
chase geiser
Even he himself admitted that his own account was censored from trending because they had some algorithm in place where if an account had been reported any number of times, any minimum number of times, then it automatically would remove it from trending.
alex jones
And that's why he intelligently defaulted himself out of it.
He just needs to default a certain list of targeted accounts.
From the regular algorithm kicking in.
chase geiser
Absolutely.
alex jones
I shouldn't interrupt you.
That's the key to this.
dan friesen
That's the key to this.
Just give me free reign.
Let me do whatever I want.
If people complain about me, ignore it.
jordan holmes
Can you get more 2020, 2024 version of some are more equal than others?
Can you get more?
unidentified
Just put me on a list of people who can do whatever they want.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
As opposed to the people who can't, that are not famous.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Duh!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's amazing.
dan friesen
It's a good solution for Alex.
jordan holmes
That is, of all the things for your JBS ass bullshit to lead to, you being like, hey, I'm gonna say this shit unironically.
dan friesen
I demand special treatment because I'm a whiny boy.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
So, Chase Geyser loves Musk.
And it turns out he has a rationale for that.
chase geiser
Not only is it difficult for me to think of a single thing that he's actually done throughout his career that I disagree with, but you have to look at these figures from the standpoint of, okay, who hates them?
Just like you said, Alex.
And that's one of the reasons why I'm voting for Donald Trump.
It's not because I agree with everything that he ever did or said, but it's because all of the world's supervillains hate him.
So he must be our best shot if he is most hated by the enemy.
I think the same is true for Musk.
In the tech startup world, it wasn't only these lawsuits, but also the subsidies that were pulled.
So that strategy of who my supervillains are against is a little bit of a bad strategy, kind of is a good way to talk yourself into supporting ISIS.
dan friesen
Or all of Alex's supervillains and shit would have really been against Hitler.
In World War II.
So, I mean, it's a good way to talk yourself into some bad conclusions about people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So in December, Tesla announced that the tax credit that you would get for buying a Tesla Model 3S was going to go away.
Previously, you got a substantial credit because it was an electric vehicle.
However, the Biden administration made a new rule that vehicles would not be eligible for this credit if they were, quote, Well, I mean, if...
jordan holmes
Your big bad is China.
And your god king is...
Man, these people just...
I can't do it.
I just can't do it.
How do you do this?
How do you do this?
How do you support Elon?
I don't even know how to get into the mind of somebody who's not insane!
dan friesen
Because he likes everything that he's ever done in his career.
Can't think of anything he's opposed to.
jordan holmes
That's an insane thing to say!
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That's an insane thing to say that makes me concerned.
dan friesen
But this is Chase Geyser.
Right?
jordan holmes
I'm concerned.
dan friesen
You're not applying the geyser standard.
jordan holmes
I'm so concerned.
I'm concerned.
dan friesen
So look, Bongino came out with this document, but he didn't.
And Alex got censored for it, but he didn't.
jordan holmes
Didn't.
dan friesen
And in this document, they talk about bumping.
You gotta get bumped.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Like sharks, whenever they give you a little bump, and then that's how you know.
dan friesen
Or when you're booked on a comedy show, and someone more famous shows up, you get bumped.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's happened.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about a situation where he got bumped.
And it turns out, I don't know if this is true.
alex jones
One time, I'm packing my bags, leaving Trump Hotel, just gone and confronted Congress, and just confronted Rubio, like two hours before, and I'm literally eating a hamburger in the bar area, because that's all that was open, and in comes this person, well-known person, and they're like...
Hey, this company, the Internet Research Group, the Russians wants to give me $3 million right now.
No question to that.
It's all legal.
Just sign this document.
jordan holmes
It's all legal.
I think legal people say.
alex jones
No way.
I'm an American citizen.
Get out of here.
I'm going to report this.
The person got really freaked out and ran off.
But that's how bad this is, folks.
And a bunch of other stuff happened, too.
You know, just a few months ago, they put an MI6 group.
Out of Dubai, on us.
They don't want me to get into all of it, but we report it to the FBI as well.
MI6 Group, out of Dubai.
Well, the FBI, they're corrupt.
Yeah, we go to them and say, cut your ass in the cookie jar, leave us alone.
And of course it's...
Obviously, it wasn't the local Austin FBI running this.
dan friesen
It's run out of D.C. Obviously.
Obviously.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know if I believe that.
But Alex is claiming that he turned down $3 million from the Internet Research Agency.
Not group.
He has the name wrong.
But this is interesting.
Because that's an online propaganda organization associated with the head of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Purgosian.
I have no...
True.
I have no belief that this actually happened, but the real point is that you'd never be able to tell the difference if it had.
It's indistinguishable.
Alex is totally in sync with their line about the war in Ukraine, and he's even aired a recruitment video put out by the Wagner Group multiple times.
I don't think that anyone working in espionage like this would feel the need to try to bribe Alex, since he does the job for free, and he's clearly not someone you can trust.
jordan holmes
Yeah, all you'd do is just be like, hey, you're doing a great job and we love you, and Putin loves you, and...
Trojan loves you, and well, I mean, not anymore, because, you know.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's all you'd need to do.
You'd never want to give him money.
Why would you create a conspiracy with the conspiracy guy?
jordan holmes
I mean, insane.
And just the idea of Alex, because...
dan friesen
He got bumped.
jordan holmes
Because, of course, Alex is going to create the character who is like, hey, here you go, three million, it's in a briefcase, all legal.
It's all legal.
Are you sure it's legal?
Whoa, you're onto me!
And then he's running away.
That is the character that Alex creates.
dan friesen
Right.
I do wonder who he's pretending that is.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Someone at Trump Hotel.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
At that time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Obviously.
jordan holmes
Maybe a waiter.
dan friesen
A well-known figure.
No, it can't be a waiter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He said it's someone well-known.
jordan holmes
That's true.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Trump?
jordan holmes
Who's the most well-known waiter?
dan friesen
I think it was Trump.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on in the third hour, and I just said, no, thank you.
alex jones
Well, he's a popular guest.
He's Dr. Kirk Elliott.
He's back in studio with us from Colorado visiting.
We really are glad he's here with us.
He did an hour and a half with us a month ago, and people really loved it.
It informed a lot of people.
dan friesen
Totally.
This is his gold sponsor.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So he's doing an hour with his gold sponsor at the end of the show.
It's just a...
Infomercial, basically.
So I wanted to nail down a little bit more about what happened with this Musk story.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex revisits this on the 28th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because there had been some media coverage of his comments from the episode that we just listened to.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so here is Alex responding.
jordan holmes
Okay, this is our postscript.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
This is from the 28th.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And Alex is responding to news coverage about his comments.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
This is a great example of the Soros-funded media, and it's on record that Raw Story and BuzzFeed and those other groups, Vice, you name it, are funded by Soros.
And they're propped up to put out fake news and incredible deception.
So this story came out yesterday and was trending on Twitter.
Alex Jones calls Elon Musk a complete and total fraud.
Turns on Elon Musk after he's massively censored.
Now, I never called him a complete and total fraud.
I said Google is a complete and total fraud.
dan friesen
So Alex is entirely wrong about this story.
This Raw Story article makes it clear that he was calling Google a complete and total fraud, as we heard in the clips we were listening to earlier.
If you actually read the story, it's clear that that's what he's saying.
However, if you only rely on headlines, then you might come away with a false perspective on the article.
The headline is, quote, complete and total fraud.
Alex turns on Elon Musk after he's massively censored.
I'll be totally clear, I think this is a bullshit headline for a number of reasons.
First off, it's sensational and clickbait in the way that it's written, because it does imply that Alex called Musk a complete and total fraud.
jordan holmes
If you think that it doesn't, then you are being obtuse.
dan friesen
It's misleading that way, and anyone posting this would understand how someone is going to read the headline, and you'd know that.
It's ridiculous.
Second, it's not totally fair to say that Alex turned on Musk.
I guess that's kind of true, but it's an over...
He's trying to course correct from his absurd support for Musk that got a lot of pushback from the audience, and he's trying to turn that into an opportunity for him to harvest attention.
In that sense, this article was giving him exactly what he wanted.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
There's a sort of mainstream article about him.
This raises the odds that Musk will take notice and respond in some way, and now Alex gets to go on his show and insist that the media is lying about him.
They're not, but this headline kind of makes it look like they are, and with bullshit artists like Alex, that's all that really matters.
The optics of this are good.
jordan holmes
Cue the circle of life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, it turns out that this did prompt...
A response from Elon Musk on Twitter.
And so now Alex discusses the back and forth that happened on Twitter.
This is news.
jordan holmes
I hate everybody.
alex jones
And so Elon responded last night in a tweet, a post on X, and said, what is it that Alex Jones is complaining about?
And I had just gotten home from a church meeting I went to.
jordan holmes
Give me more details.
Don't get to the meat of the story.
alex jones
Tuesday night church service.
jordan holmes
Tell me more about it.
alex jones
With my oldest daughter.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah?
What's she doing?
How's school?
alex jones
I was getting calls on the way home.
Hey, Elon Musk is X-ing.
Not on ecstasy, but on a site.
Posting on X. Also on ecstasy.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
And asking what the problem is.
So I don't want to text while I drive.
So I pulled over into a gas station.
About 9 o 'clock.
jordan holmes
Do I need to know this?
alex jones
Went and read the Ross story.
Called up Chase Geyser, who's a real go-getter.
Geyser.
And said, hey, will you go grab that clip?
And will you post this, what I actually said?
And then will you respond?
And I dictated real quick to him what I wanted him to say.
And then within 10 minutes, the guy's like a speed racer.
He already had it up.
jordan holmes
That's too long to type!
alex jones
And then Elon said, well, there's your fake news.
And then they put a community notes on the raw story saying, Fake news, which is the strongest condemnation that they do.
So they've got a humiliating amount of egg on their face.
But nice, nice try, guys.
dan friesen
Chase Geyser is becoming more and more important, it turns out.
I think he's ascendant at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Wormtonguing it, I think, is what's going on here.
dan friesen
So I just, while I was preparing this episode today, I went and checked the Raw Story post about this, and there is no community note on it calling it fake news.
In the replies, though, you can find Chase Geyser reporting it to community notes, just begging for censorship, calling the hall monitor over.
The Raw Story is not, strictly speaking, fake news.
It's a correct story with a bullshit...
Alex understands all about writing bullshit misleading headlines, so he's not really in a position to judge here.
But if Alex really wants to make some hay here, he should complain about the Uproxx story covering the Raw Story article.
That one definitely did say that Alex called Twitter a complete and total fraud, with their headline being, quote, even Alex Jones thinks X is a complete and total fraud since it was bought by Elon Musk.
They misrepresented the Raw Story article in exactly the way the headline was at risk of people misinterpreting it, and it's just a pointless article.
It's not covering Alex's comments, it's a blog post covering Raw Story's blog post about Alex's comments, and the game of telephone isn't good for anyone in terms of actually getting at what was actually said and dealing with it.
It's causing harm to information being disseminated as opposed to the alternative.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, if there was one thing that I hoped would have happened by now, it would be the realization on the media's part that Alex turns them into Alex.
Like, everything that every time they try...
They're dumbasses to cover this.
They wind up doing something that Alex does and revealing themselves to be idiots.
dan friesen
Yeah, not every time, but it is at a high risk.
jordan holmes
More often than not.
dan friesen
It's wise to exercise caution and not play clickbait games whenever you're covering Alex because it will be used to his advantage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, just the number of times that somebody should have gone, well, this is too easy.
I mean, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Too easy.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
That word too is there to warn you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is talking about this Raw Story article, and he's accusing people of going off half-cocked.
And he relates it to something else that I think is not applicable.
alex jones
We wrote an article about it at Infowars.com last night.
Ben Warren worked late to get that done, did a great job.
We wrote another one this morning, Kelly McBrain did.
Fake News 101, media falsely claims Alex Jones called Elon Musk a fraud.
And it chronicles it and has all the screenshots if you want to see it.
So that's a great example of people going off half-cocked.
Here's another one.
Because this became a big story on X and got picked up by news, and we talked to Bongino, my producer, this morning, and he said he's had 50 calls this morning.
Hundreds of emails, you name it.
Former Secret Service, senior Secret Service agent, whistleblower.
And he called my producer back and said, listen, I'm not talking about the story anymore.
My source is already scared to death for their life.
And I can't give Alex any more information.
And will you just please tell people, stop contacting me.
jordan holmes
Weird.
alex jones
So I get it.
He's a busy guy.
He's got the stuff going on he's doing.
That's fine.
But the internet turned this into a fight between me and Bongino.
Bongino breaks a story from a high-level source inside the intelligence agencies about a lot of which has been declassified, that I was on a list of 26 people, including President Trump, to be harassed.
dan friesen
Of course Bongino doesn't want to talk more about this.
He was just talking shit on his show, and now Alex has turned it into him releasing a page from a classified document which he's planning to release the rest of soon.
There was no document, and Alex has entirely misreported this story because the fake version is more exciting and makes him look like more of a victim.
So, here's the long and short of this, according to Alex.
Dan Bongino used to come on Infowars a bunch, which is fairly true.
I'm not sure he was ever a super regular guest, but he was on from time to time.
Back then, Bongino was a no-name guy whose only claim to fame was that he used to be in the Secret Service protecting Obama.
He parlayed that into a little right-wing media career, and it led to him getting Alex's attention.
At that time, as is the case in the present day, Alex would embellish things that primary sources would say, and this applied to Bongino.
Alex would come up with completely absurd things the Secret Service people were claiming about Obama and not use Bongino's name, but everyone would put two and two together and realize that was what Alex was trying to imply.
According to Alex, Bongino confronted Alex multiple times, asking if he was claiming Dan as a source, and Alex would deny it, saying things like, you think you're the only person in the government I know?
Like he does in this clip.
alex jones
I still don't know why Bongino, years ago, repeatedly called me, and I talked to him also off-air once during an interview, and said, hey man, is it you?
You know, that New York tough guy deal.
And he is a tough guy.
I'm not saying that New York tough guy thing.
Hey man, is it you telling people you're getting your stuff from me?
And I said, no.
What, you think you're the only person I know in the government?
dan friesen
So at some point a while back, Bongino had had enough of it and he stopped coming on the show.
Now, Alex is doing the same shit.
He's taken a small snippet of Bongino's show where he shows a Microsoft Word-ass image of a list of names he claims a source told him were to be bumped, and Alex has reported this as Bongino releasing a page of a classified document and the rest is coming soon.
Bongino is full of shit and I don't really care about him at all, but I can understand how he would be pretty pissed about this whole thing.
Alex is trying to hijack his story and take ownership of it away from Bongino, which is kind of ironic since Bongino is just trying to hijack the story from Michael Schellenberger and...
Matt Taibbi.
But, like, you take control away from Bongino, and now, if Bongino doesn't produce a classified document, Alex's audience is going to think that Bongino's covering this up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a real difficulty that this introduces, the way that Alex is hijacking.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, I have limited sympathy, you know?
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
You know, like, when Ed Norton steals all the money from Mark Wahlberg in that one movie, you know, with Charlize Theron.
I was like, hey, guess what?
Shouldn't have been a thief.
I don't know.
What do you expect?
dan friesen
I totally understand the limited sympathy, and I'm not trying to be like, woe is Bongino.
But I am saying that understanding this dynamic, I get where Bongino would be mad at Alex.
That's more my point than to be like, I feel bad for him.
I do kind of feel bad for him because there's probably, based on what Alex is saying, seems like a lot of Alex's audience is probably contacting Bongino and being like, hey, where's the rest of this shit?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but see, Here's the thing.
dan friesen
It's annoying.
jordan holmes
Mark Wahlberg and Charlize Theron got together, stole it back.
Bongino's just whining!
All these people whine!
dan friesen
Well, he's whining privately, apparently.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
So it appears that Bongino reached out to Alex to say he doesn't want to come on and doesn't want to talk more about this story that Alex is misrepresenting, and that jogged Alex's memory about why Bongino doesn't come on the show anymore.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
What's interesting to me is how this is supposed to be another case of people going off half-cocked.
Just like the Raw story got wrong about Alex and Musk, that was the case of it.
This is supposed to be another case of people on Twitter going off half-cocked, saying that Alex and Bongino are beefing.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I do not know.
dan friesen
So, we end with...
I'm not sure we have a resolution about the Elon Musk thing.
Alex has, I guess, gotten a response from Musk in terms of him saying, what's Alex mad about?
In response to the Raw Story article.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And then Alex is claiming that Musk made the Raw Story article, or the community notes made it, fake news.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so I guess that's some kind of a victory, but it doesn't address Alex's main complaints, which are the censorship and him not being able to post ban.video links.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we don't have any real resolution about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But we do know, apparently, that he can't post something about a fake version of Dan Bongino's big, breaking, classified document that wasn't.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's what's behind the censorship, but it's not, because it predates that.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay, now, I don't know if it's real.
Okay, but is there some sort of way to put Elon Musk...
And Alex and Dan Bongino into, like, a small mirror-type square and then send them off into space forever next to General Zod.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
Because that would have been a really good solution to all of this.
The Phantom Zone is probably the best way to go.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, unfortunately, that is not real.
But one thing that we can take some solace in the reality that...
Spiritually, they are in a mirror cube.
In fact, they have to deal with each other.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
And they seem to be pissing each other off a little bit.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
So that...
You know, that is kind of an unfortunate fate for anyone to find themselves in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is a certain scorpion and toad-ass relationship here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What did you think I was going to do?
I'm a fucking scorpion!
Of course you're part of my conspiracy, dickwad!
dan friesen
Yeah, you let me back in, and what do you know?
I found a fucking conspiracy, and it's about you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shock.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
So, we come to the end of this, and it is an interesting...
episode that we covered on Wednesday yeah this this gushing defensive I identify with criticisms about musk and it hurts me personally yeah into this and I think that in terms of conspiracy ass shit this is a move in the right direction for Alex right this is him getting where he needs to be that's more sustainable yeah you know defending musk in the long term is not going to work it's going to end up Having too many things you're going to have to wallpaper over.
And so this is the right thing to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can still pretend that you're like, hey, I think he's doing a lot of great stuff.
You know, you can still hold on to that a little bit.
But you need to have a far more critical posture.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And good for Alex coming around on that.
jordan holmes
Good luck sticking to it.
Because I have a...
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Well, he shits gold bricks.
There's too much that's going to lure you back.
jordan holmes
That's kind of the problem with being an addict.
I don't know if you know this, but a lot of times they make decisions that are negative towards themselves.
dan friesen
I hope Alex fucks around and gets himself kicked back off Twitter.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's got to be...
There's no other way this could end!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's how it's supposed to go!
dan friesen
I think it's destined.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
But we'll see what kind of level of patience Musk has as compared to the people who owned the site before.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's not patience so much as it is like...
At what point does this man admit that he's wrong?
dan friesen
Or at what point does he recognize that the cost is not worth it?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or come up with some rationalization to make himself not sound like he's saying, I was wrong to let Alex Jones back on, and yet at the same time admit that he was wrong.
dan friesen
It's so simple.
I mean, the reason that he said that he wasn't going to let him back on in the first place was the Sandy Hook stuff, and he could just say, I looked into it more, and Alex is lying about what he did about Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes
Not hard.
dan friesen
Rationalizing kicking him back off would be the simplest thing.
It wouldn't compact his ego.
jordan holmes
Because he should be out!
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Ah, but it would.
It would, because then he wouldn't be as cool.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
And I'll tell you what, I swear to God, this world is dominated.
By whether or not Elon Musk is feeling cool at any given point in time.
dan friesen
And Alex, as we know, the king of cool.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll be back for another episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do!
It's knowledgeright.com!
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Blue Sky.
jordan holmes
We are on Blue Sky.
It's knowledgeright!
dan friesen
Yep, and if you're listening to this, there will be a new Stacky out.
So that's at stacky.substack.com.
That's your bright spot.
Yeah, I guess it should have been.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Redo.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Start from the top.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
It should have done it right from the top.
jordan holmes
I mean, from the top is literally how we should end it from now on.
dan friesen
Yep.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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