In this installment, Dan and Jordan find Alex basking in the afterglow of his interview with Tucker Carlson. He decides to spend his time interviewing a recently-released-from-jail Owen Shroyer and then explaining what Heaven is really like.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need, I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in, Andy in. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in, Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Not knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What did you bring us about today, buddy? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Haribos. | ||
| There's some seasonal varieties of Haribo gummy candies. | ||
| They have the candy cane gummies here, which are not peppermint. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Thankfully. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, that sounds like the worst idea for a gummy I could imagine. | ||
| What are they? | ||
| They're in the shape of candy canes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Red ones, cherry. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Green ones, apple. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| White ones, plum. | ||
| Plum. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| For white. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| It's a nice little thing. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| Sometimes you get bored of gummy bears and you need a cane. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| Mix it up. | ||
| It's in candy cane shape? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Mix it up. | ||
| Is it in candy cane shape because you can normally get... | ||
| Can you get plum candy canes? | ||
| No. | ||
| Or did they just candy cane where they were just like, we got some flavors? | ||
| Plum is a winter flavor, I think. | ||
| Visions of Sugar Plum, sure. | ||
| I remember from poem. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| And so I think that's why they got the nod on this one. | ||
| Plum, yeah. | ||
| And plum, I've been on record about this as it relates to, I believe, a seltzer. | ||
| Plum is an underrated flavor. | ||
| True. | ||
| I think it gets mixed up with prune quite a bit. | ||
| I mean, it is... | ||
| When one turns into the other, you know there's bad... | ||
| Wait, do plums turn into prunes? | ||
| I feel like that's how that works. | ||
| Aren't prunes just plums from later on? | ||
| I'm gonna do some research on this. | ||
| In the meantime, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is Slow Horses TV show... | ||
| Starring Gary Oldman. | ||
| I have a correction to make. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| A prune is a dried plum. | ||
| It is! | ||
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Yes! | |
| Woo! | ||
| Come on, baby! | ||
| No knowns for the win! | ||
| Wow, that blew up right in my face. | ||
| Never trust whether or not I half remember something. | ||
| I will never live this down. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | ||
| Slow Horses, TV show. | ||
| It's really, really good. | ||
| It stars Gary Oldman. | ||
| He's a British spy in MI5. | ||
| But, you know, he's a real gross one. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's so great, but mainly just because Gary Oldman is just the greatest. | ||
| He's the greatest. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's got range. | ||
| He's so great. | ||
| Like, he's playing this character as this dirty, old, disgusting, like, burnout spy, but he's actually obviously the most competent. | ||
| You know the deal. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| About those types of things. | ||
| And he's just so good at it. | ||
| And there's so many times where you're like... | ||
| Man, that guy's so good. | ||
| And then you're like, God damn, that's Gary Oldman! | ||
| And then you're like, God damn, Gary Oldman's so good. | ||
| Sometimes when I think of Gary Oldman and I try to visualize him, I come up with William H. Macy. | ||
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No! | |
| I know that's incorrect. | ||
| But I bet he could look like William H. Macy if he wanted to. | ||
| I bet he'd play a great William H. Macy biopic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He'd be the best William H. Macy. | ||
| And then I start to think about, what's William H. Macy up to? | ||
| They canceled Shameless, or it's over. | ||
| I never watched that. | ||
| Yeah, me neither. | ||
| But they do like him. | ||
| My wife did. | ||
| He has a lot of charm. | ||
| He's great! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, but see, that's the thing, is for the two of them, and how far apart did these movies come out? | ||
| I want to say The Fifth Element and Boogie Nights did not come out too far apart. | ||
| And I want to say those are the two roles for both of them. | ||
| Because it's like, anytime you think of Gary Oldman, I think of that half-helmet. | ||
| Not Commissioner Gordon? | ||
| With blood coming out of it. | ||
| And then anytime I think of William H. Bacy, I think of that time he shot himself in the fucking head halfway through the movie and ruined my whole night! | ||
| Not state and Maine? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not what you think of when you think William H. Macy? | ||
| No, not state-made. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| Mystery Men? | ||
| That would be a good one, yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Shoveler. | ||
| I can't tell if this is a Mandela effect that I have. | ||
| Did that song All Star by Smash Mouth, was that originally on the Mystery Men soundtrack? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah, that's a really good question. | ||
| Or did it come out before and then was on? | ||
| I feel like it was on the soundtrack, and that's where it started. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let's just verify for all of our sakes. | ||
| Smash Mouth did not originally write All-Star. | ||
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What? | |
| It is a cover of a... | ||
| It is? | ||
| Wait, is it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They didn't actually write that. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| It's scandalous. | ||
| I don't know what to do anymore. | ||
| I know. | ||
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I know. | |
| It's tough. | ||
| I'm going to do some research. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Prune is a plum. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about December 8th. | ||
| 2023. | ||
| That is Friday. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And we're going to do that because it's the day after the Tucker Carlson interview. | ||
| And so we'll get to see how Alex's headspace is at, what's going on, and what show people would be tuning into if they had seen that Alex is on Tucker and then jump in here. | ||
| Yeah, that's what we got to know. | ||
| And I think that Alex is aware of that. | ||
| He talks about how there's millions more people listening and stuff. | ||
| So this is the kind of face he wants to put on for people. | ||
| And I think that's an interesting glimpse to take on this. | ||
| Yeah, so coming in, this is the sales pitch. | ||
| You would assume, yes. | ||
| This is the head salesman at the dealership coming up, walking up to you as you're looking at that van going, $25,000 seems like too much for us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is striking while the iron's hot. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So another thing we should probably bring up is, as we're recording this, Alex has been allowed back on Twitter. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Which is not the case on Friday when he's doing this episode. | ||
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Right. | |
| So there will be some talk of, maybe I'll be let back on Twitter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he has. | ||
| And I think people are curious about our perspective on it, and I think I've been thinking about it, and it's obviously bad for people. | ||
| Because he is a very bombastic spreader of bad information. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that he's dangerous to people and the public. | ||
| I think he spreads hate. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so, for those reasons, I think it's a bad thing that he's coming back onto social media. | ||
| But, at the same time... | ||
| I don't really think it shouldn't happen or whatever. | ||
| I don't think we live in a world of shoulds. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In the same way that I was like, well, he got kicked off Twitter because Twitter didn't want him to be on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The people who ran it were like, no, we don't want you to be on. | ||
| Now Elon Musk is enough of a shithead that he's like, I do want you on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's the same thing. | ||
| It's a business making a decision about who they want on or not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't fault the decision. | ||
| I think it's wrong. | ||
| I think it's bad. | ||
| But Elon Musk's right to do it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I feel a little bit like this. | ||
| I feel a little bit like last year I got out of the community pool. | ||
| And then right after I got out, some lunatic Mr. Burns bought up the community pool, right? | ||
| And then everybody started leaving, but then the people who were left, he was like, I can't believe there are still people here. | ||
| I gotta make sure that everybody goes. | ||
| I gotta put up a sign that says, only people who piss in the pool allowed. | ||
| So he's got a giant bucket full of shit, and he's pouring it into the community pool while the rest of you sit in there. | ||
| I left the pool, man. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| You guys can eat the shit. | ||
| Yeah, I think I mentioned this on our last episode, that the notion of Alex getting back on Twitter is kind of overblown a little bit, I think, because of how bad everything else is on Twitter. | ||
| He's going to be another shitty voice on there, as opposed to being somebody who's actually leading a conversation or anything. | ||
| He's going to be another shithead. | ||
| And that sucks, but it doesn't really fundamentally alter what Twitter is. | ||
| Twitter is. | ||
| It was bad, and it's now bad. | ||
| Now it's a bunch of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it'd probably, I think, ah, man, if it was me, and I'm Alex, and obviously, I'm sure Alex, we're gonna find out Alex would be very happy to come back on Twitter. | ||
| You bet. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Of course. | ||
| But if it's me, I'm saying, fuck that. | ||
| I don't want to come back on Twitter. | ||
| Because if I do get invited back on Twitter, I have to go back on Twitter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if I do go back on Twitter, then I find out that I'm just another asshole? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've spent the last how many years being like, I'm the most dangerous band man. | ||
| You can't even come close to me because I'm untouchable. | ||
| And then if I do show up on social media, then I'm just another asshole? | ||
| Yeah, and what about all the other people who haven't been back on and now you have? | ||
| Are you less dangerous? | ||
| You're less banned and censored. | ||
| Your brand is eroding by being allowed back on, honestly. | ||
| And not just that, but what happens whenever you're shit on Twitter? | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I mean, Alex doesn't even bring up that he's not very good at tweeting. | ||
| He's not good at tweeting! | ||
| But it's not even him doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's a fair point. | ||
| I mean, the advantage of it, obviously, is that there will be another place where he can try and sell his shit. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And, you know, that's unfortunate, but who knows what kind of return there will be on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But for now, people are excited about it in the shithead world. | ||
| Hooray! | ||
| I'm not enjoying, but it's like watching people throw a parade for Alex being back on Twitter. | ||
| It's just kind of sad. | ||
| It bums me out. | ||
| It is very sad. | ||
| I will say that the one thing about this that I think is underappreciated... | ||
| And it's something that I would hope that the media could handle but will never deal with, which is that they are just now functionally a mouthpiece for Twitter. | ||
| Like, they're just doing press releases. | ||
| Why would you write a thing and then aggregate a thing and then have every publication write a thing about how Alex is let back on Twitter? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Unless you are like, well, we gotta get Alex as many followers as we possibly can. | ||
| We gotta drum up excitement about this. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Or, are you running a press release for... | ||
| Elon or Alex. | ||
| Or are you making this news, but for whom is it news? | ||
| You wonder if there is some sort of an idealistic impetus behind it that is asking, well, if we spread this news far and wide, maybe there will be enough pressure to change the decision. | ||
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Could there be? | |
| Something. | ||
| But that's delusional. | ||
| That's absurd, and if you don't understand that at this point, then fine, the media should be going where it's going. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I just feel like they not only did not learn from the past eight years of Trump, but they have hyper-not learned to the point where now they're actively running towards more and more Trumps. | ||
| Yeah, and Trump got let back on Twitter, right? | ||
| And it was like a big deal for a day or two, and then just, I don't... | ||
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Nope. | |
| I don't know if it... | ||
| I feel like excitement died down just like, oh, we're now at this level of shitheadery on Twitter. | ||
| It'll be the same thing for Alex, but for now, they're having their parade. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| So we'll get down to business on this episode here, Jordan, but before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Jordan, instead of triangle strategy, try Tactics Ogre. | ||
| It's the game the Final Fantasy Tactics team made before Final Fantasy Tactics. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now Policywonk. | ||
| I'm a Policywonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Too many tactics in that there. | ||
| Tactics. | ||
| Next, you can call me Crash with a K. Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now Policywonk. | ||
| I'm a Policywonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, JW with a bunch of H's. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now Policywonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And I'm a looser little shitty... | ||
| I'm a looser shitty tittle baby. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| And we got a couple technocrats in the mix. | ||
| So first, thank you so much to the buffest little boy. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| And thank you so much to Brian. | ||
| Will you be my domestic partner? | ||
| Love, Nick. | ||
| And then in parentheses, this is very important. | ||
| The only reason this has gotten through is the parentheses. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| He's already accepted. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now... | ||
| I'm a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| Yeah, I wanted to give them a tip of the cap on that because that was the... | ||
| I almost like immediately just... | ||
| Nope, nope, not gonna happen on this one. | ||
| And then it was like, oh, he's already said, yeah, okay, fine, we'll put that in there. | ||
| We should restate marriage proposals, that kind of stuff. | ||
| None of that. | ||
| Unless you're doing it in deep code that we don't get. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| If that is somehow you can pull that off, then we'll be none the wiser. | ||
| Yeah, that's not on us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you tricked us. | ||
| We're the victims in this scenario. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we start off the episode, and there's another victim that will be mentioned in this clip. | ||
| But he's a victim that got a reprieve like Nineveh. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Or Jonah getting out of the belly of the whale or whatever. | ||
| It's Friday, December 8th, 2023. | ||
| I'm your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| I want to welcome the giant new audience tuning in. | ||
| The Tucker interview that dropped yesterday is the biggest story on the Internet right now. | ||
| Really affecting change and warning the planet about the globalist depopulation plan. | ||
| And so much more. | ||
| Owen Schroer got out of prison about 15 days early this morning. | ||
| Our crew picked him up in Louisiana. | ||
| He'll be joining us from the road via video link coming up at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| But here's an opening salvo from the Tucker Alex Jones interview. | ||
| So he plays a bit of the Tucker interview. | ||
| Really trying to bask in it for the beginning of the show. | ||
| Yeah, Owen got out. | ||
| He got out the clink. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Is there anything less cool than getting out early for good behavior? | ||
| Well, they don't spin it that way. | ||
| I mean, I imagine not, but I mean, you know. | ||
| There was a groundswell of demand that he'd be released. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| Wait, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| And the warden couldn't... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| ...could not go along with incarcerating him any longer. | ||
| They are not trying to pull that out of this. | ||
| Oh, yes, oh, yes, big time. | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| As opposed to it being sort of a pissant sentence and... | ||
| He was a nothing sentence for probation violation, and then he wasn't a dickhead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So no reason to... | ||
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You shouldn't really be in prison anyways if he wasn't such a dickhead. | |
| Yeah, debatably, there's not really a reason to keep him any longer. | ||
| No, there wasn't really... | ||
| I mean, I would rather he never went to prison and they just made him do his fucking community service! | ||
| I mean, yeah, add a few more hours onto it for good measure or something, but yeah, that probably would have been more... | ||
| Because honestly, yeah, I mean, there is just the reality of it that is, like, he's not going to learn a lesson. | ||
| There is no point in that. | ||
| You're just... | ||
| Ruining his weeks for a while? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was in for like 40 days or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna fuck up this dude's month is not a justice system. | ||
| Right, and you're gonna create a new brand for him once he comes out. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And so, like, it does play into Owen's hands a bit. | ||
| And the way that they're able to spin this, like, shit with the warden, which we'll get to. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| How is it not possible that people wouldn't just be like, oh, yeah, no, here's what we're gonna do. | ||
| Owen, you're just gonna clean up parks for the next... | ||
| Month. | ||
| That's what's going to happen. | ||
| You're going to spend an hour or two a day cleaning up a park, and that'll be it. | ||
| Everybody be stoked about that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would be productive. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, look, Alex got a little bit into the weeds at certain points during the Tucker interview. | ||
| There's some things that came up that were, you know, and some people have had some criticisms of him about it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And one of them Alex gets defensive about here. | ||
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Okay. | |
| By the way, just to show how deceptive the corporate media is, a whole bunch of publications, I think I left them out there in the printer, those stories I printed out for online live, give them to me, guys, said, Jones is making up that Biden is mean to his dog. | ||
| It's come out in mainstream news, and he's been caught on video kicking it, and that it attacks the Secret Service. | ||
| I mean, we talk about all these things that are real, and they sit there and deny that they're doing it, down to Biden. | ||
| But, the... | ||
| Establishment's backing of Biden has come to an end. | ||
| Hunter Biden faces 17 years in prison after spending millions on lavish, hard-parting lifestyles while dodging taxes. | ||
| Yeah, a bunch of hookers and cocaine. | ||
| House Republicans unveil resolution to authorize Biden impeachment. | ||
| Inquiry, and the speaker says he's going to let that continue. | ||
| Understandably, the beginning of this show involves a fair bit of navel-gazing about the Tucker interview. | ||
| Apparently, part of the stretch of the interview where Alex was complaining about Biden involved an allegation that Biden hits his dog, which I didn't even include in our breakdown because it didn't rank. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, of all the things, fine. | |
| As it turns out, some other outlets tweeted about this section of the interview, and now Alex is getting defensive about it. | ||
| Alex doesn't have evidence of Biden kicking his dog or any of that. | ||
| It's just something that Tom Fitton has claimed a source told him. | ||
| Tom Fitton is the guy who runs Judicial Watch, the legal harassment outlet that was founded by noted lunatic Larry Klayman. | ||
| The entire thing is based on creating imagery surrounding context for the real-world stories about two of Biden's dogs, Commander and Major, having to be removed from the White House because they bit people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you take that kernel of truth and then create a candy shell. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Mouth in your mouth, not in your hand. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you shouldn't have dogs in the White House. | ||
| That's a bad environment. | ||
| That is shocking. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| What about a cat? | ||
| Every environment is possibly good or bad for a cat, depending on the cat's environment. | ||
| What about a bird? | ||
| Birds can't be trusted. | ||
| They can go anywhere. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Ceilings? | ||
| Can't trust them. | ||
| So you don't want birds in the White House? | ||
| I do want birds in the White House, but only completely camouflaged birds. | ||
| You totally missed it. | ||
| There was a dunk there. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Lady Bird Johnson. | ||
| Oh, come on! | ||
| That's lazy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Lazy Bird Johnson. | ||
| So, I'm obviously very opposed to people who mistreat animals, but I'm not convinced this one is one to take seriously. | ||
| But this is a great thing for Alex to get defensive about, because by doing so, he can dodge discussing any of the real criticism of that interview. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like when he said, you shouldn't be able to fly a Black Lives Matter flag unless you lived in East St. Louis. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| It's harder to defend segregation than... | ||
| He could kick his dog! | ||
| Right. | ||
| As for the stuff about Hunter Biden, I'm not sure how any of that indicates that the vaunted establishment has turned against Joe Biden. | ||
| He's being charged with a crime, but this is supposed to have a higher meaning for idiots like Alex. | ||
| According to Alex, if you're in the establishment's good graces, then all of your relatives and people associated with you are protected from any kind of criminal prosecution, so the fact that a prosecution is moving forward means that the man has removed his... | ||
| of protection from joe biden right to steal a favorite alex phrase this is really dumb though man like jenna and barbara bush the children of george w bush were arrested for having fakeids and drinking underage in 2001 while their father was president yeah we could delve into the escapades of billy carter and roger clinton but i'm afraid we don't have time for that right now more to the point though alex should not support this prosecution one of his fundamental beliefs is that taxes are illegal and the 16th amendment wasn't properly ratified he uses that excuse when | ||
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one of his right-wing buddies gets into trouble for tax fraud but mysteriously that belief doesn't apply to his political enemies this is because he doesn't actually believe this as a core principle or as a truth he believes it just enough to use as an excuse to pretend his buddies are all being persecuted But that's about it. | |
| And the GOP trying to get an impeachment going, that's also not evidence that the establishment is turned against Biden. | ||
| They released their impeachment inquiry resolution the other day, and it's a dud, and it fails to prove any of the major claims that are the talking points on shows like Alex's. | ||
| The strategy is to take this resolution and put it before the entire House for a vote, and if it passes, it'll give the inquiry greater investigatory authority, which they can then use to expand their fishing expedition that they're going on. | ||
| This may pass, but even if it does, that doesn't mean that the House is going to vote for impeachment. | ||
| And even if they do, there's zero chance that'll pass in the Senate. | ||
| But the primary goal here has been fulfilled, which is to feed the right-wing media narrative cycle. | ||
| And Alex is doing his part in that. | ||
| Hand in glove with our representatives. | ||
| It's very dystopian. | ||
| It is hard for me to even, like... | ||
| You shouldn't be allowed to talk about impeachment anymore. | ||
| It's just not serious. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| It's imaginary. | ||
| And it's a waste of everybody's day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It no longer holds the weight that it should. | ||
| If you can't impeach the president who committed crimes the whole time that are documented on the television! | ||
| Yeah, and the only reason you can't is because of, like... | ||
| Because people say, nah, we're not going to do it. | ||
| We don't want to. | ||
| We admit he's guilty. | ||
| Oh, he did all of that shit, but we don't think he should ever be held accountable for it. | ||
| Then why not just get rid of the idea? | ||
| It's a waste of everybody's time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, in terms of having a robust checks and balances system in place, it is not that. | ||
| It does feel like, in the same way that no election will ever be not fraud again in the future to people like Alex, no president will ever not be... | ||
| Impeached or should be impeached forever. | ||
| And that's just what we're living under now. | ||
| There will always be impeachment proceedings underway. | ||
| So we got some other headlines to get through. | ||
| We've got a lot to get into here today. | ||
| Western AD Ukraine falls off a cliff, according to International German Monitor Group. | ||
| And the response is not just Biden two days ago saying, well, we'll just go to war with Russia. | ||
| Now the Secretary of Defense, Tucker Carlson, broke. | ||
| They have the sources. | ||
| Told a closed-door meeting of Congress that our sons and daughters will die soon if we don't give them $106 billion. | ||
| So, Alex is saying it's bad that Western aid to Ukraine has decreased, but when the most aid was being sent, he was furious that too much aid was being sent. | ||
| You can kind of see how, no matter what is happening in the world, Alex can find a way to be mad about it and claim that it's proof of something nefarious. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Alex is failing to mention an important detail about that headline, though. | ||
| He's reading this headline, quote, Western aid to Ukraine falls off a cliff, a German monitor. | ||
| That's from RT, the state media outlet of the country that's the one invading Ukraine. | ||
| It's a bit iffy in terms of sourcing. | ||
| Nah, I think that sounds... | ||
| I mean, listen, if there's anything I know about Russian state media, it's mostly trustworthy, especially during wartime. | ||
| I understand that maybe this is still a story. | ||
| So in a case like this, what a serious person would do is dig into the underlying information the article is based on instead of just skimming the headline published in a belligerent country's media outlet. | ||
| This comes from the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, an economic think tank based in Germany. | ||
| The institute runs a Ukraine aid tracker, and their latest data set showed a steep decline. | ||
| However, this is not indicative of a collapse of all aid being sent to Ukraine. | ||
| It's specifically data showing new commitments to provide aid. | ||
| That has taken a large dip in the past few months, and the reasons are pretty clear. | ||
| The first is that the U.S. and the EU have pending aid commitments that have stalled, but are likely to be passed soon. | ||
| That will bump numbers up considerably. | ||
| The second reason is because in May and June of this year, Ukraine received a flood of multi-year aid commitments that more than make up for the dip in new commitments seen in the last few months. | ||
| Year over year, October 2023 saw about 2 billion euros of new commitment compared to about 4 billion in October of last year. | ||
| Compare that to the difference between Junes. | ||
| In 2022, new commitments were just under $5 billion. | ||
| This year, it was almost $55 billion, with over $50 billion of that being in the form of multi-year commitment arrangements. | ||
| So you can see this is being skewed a little bit. | ||
| Further, their newest dataset shows no drop-off in heavy weapon commitments in the same time frame, and in fact shows increases from EU countries on that front. | ||
| The point is that the actual data doesn't show a complete cratering of the support for Ukraine, but that is how a headline in a state media outlet of the country invading Ukraine might want to present things. | ||
| And Alex is on the same tip, so he has zero investment in figuring out what the story actually is here. | ||
| It's enough for him to just parrot the talking points of the side that he's on. | ||
| Also, Tucker is entirely mischaracterizing what Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said. | ||
| He was speaking to Congress, and he made the point that if Putin... | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're trying to hold the aid hostage so they can apply pressure to pass anti-immigrant border security legislation, pretending that they may be open to aid to Ukraine talks if they can get their xenophobic shit going. | ||
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| Anyway, Austin made a very reasonable statement that Putin is unlikely to stop with Ukraine, and if there is a threat to NATO countries, we are obligated to send troops. | ||
| Tucker and most of the right-wing media misrepresented that to be some kind of a threat, because at its core, the right wing of this country supports Putin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So... | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Not great work on Alex's point here. | ||
| Yeah, it is kind of interesting that we are pretty consistently trapped in this space, wherein you and I, and people, I suppose, let's say, high attention span, high attention space kind of... | ||
| Look at people like this and say, this will not stop. | ||
| There is no way for this person to stop themselves. | ||
| They will only move forward and only escalate. | ||
| That is how they function, right? | ||
| And then you have people who are enabling that and they're like, yeah, we love that shit. | ||
| That's the way we do it. | ||
| And then you have the people who are like, okay, well, what if we tell him, please stop this time? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then next time we'll say, please extra stop this time, and then we'll threaten very strongly. | ||
| Yeah, and there's people who are saying, this person cannot stop, and at a certain point it will be at your front door. | ||
| There's a high likelihood that at some point your interest will run up against their inability to control themselves. | ||
| Right, but what if instead that will happen later to other people and I don't have to deal with it? | ||
| Well, you're making an interesting gamble there. | ||
| Ah, no. | ||
| You see, you are making an interesting gamble. | ||
| I will not be in government at the time. | ||
| Bye, General! | ||
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| It's a good plan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we have another headline. | ||
| It's a load of shit. | ||
| Studies show vaccinated are more likely to suffer from ear disease. | ||
| That's what everybody keeps reporting with tinnitus. | ||
| Blood disorders and hair loss. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It breaks your DNA. | ||
| It makes you accelerate your aging. | ||
| Big, prestigious studies out. | ||
| But they just say conspiracy theory, disinfo. | ||
| Oh, do they? | ||
| So this is a headline Alex is reading from the Epoch Times, which is a bad sign. | ||
| Even so, when you read a little into the article, you find that maybe the headline is not actually capturing the data that it's supposed to be reporting. | ||
| This is about a South Korean study looking at the data from the Korean National Health Insurance Service. | ||
| They examined various diagnoses compared between vaccinated and unvaccinated people and found that there was a higher rate for things like menstrual disorder, ear disease, and bruising among vaccinated people. | ||
| One issue right out of the gate is that the study hasn't been peer reviewed yet. | ||
| As a society, we need to make a policy that we're not going to take any reporting seriously when the underlying information comes from unreviewed studies. | ||
| It's jumping the gun out of a desperation to feed the narrative cycle. | ||
| The anti-vax folks are wrong, and because of that, they need a constant flood of stories telling them that they're right in order to preserve the position. | ||
| One of the main tricks that's being used in the time after COVID has been the use of med archive studies. | ||
| most of all would never pass peer review because they're flawed. | ||
| I don't remember this being so prevalent in the times before COVID. | ||
| And I really think that if this one trick was eliminated, it would fundamentally disrupt the COVID talking point factory. | ||
| All of the unpeer reviewed studies that have been the basis for like, can you believe hydroxychloroquine does work and shown it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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All this stuff. | |
| If that trick was removed, so much of the veneer of fake credibility would be taken away from Yeah, that's the free speech question there, you know? | ||
| Can you say it is against the rules to publish the details of an unreviewed study, of an unpeer-reviewed study? | ||
| No, I don't think it should be against the rules, but I think we all need to grow up to the point where we realize what this information is and how seriously to take it. | ||
| Right, I understand. | ||
| That's the fantasy scenario that I have. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Which I recognize as a fantasy. | ||
| So that said, there are a couple of glaring problems with this study, which will probably make it so they can't get this past review. | ||
| The first is that they didn't control for confounding variables like age and comorbidities. | ||
| The Epoch Times article even says this, quote, the vaccinated group included 1.4 million people compared to 289,576 in the unvaccinated group. | ||
| The latter skewed younger with fewer comorbidities, one factor that potentially affected the results. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| Wow, who could have guessed? | ||
| If the vaccinated group includes a much higher percentage of people who are likely to get these conditions due to comorbidities or just aging, then you have zero reason to make the leap to thinking that any of the higher incidents seen in the data has anything to do with the vaccine. | ||
| When I say that the data is very skewed by age, I mean that the vaccinated group was approximately 74% over the age of 50, whereas the unvaccinated group was 67% under 49. That's probably an issue. | ||
| This is a factor that you can't just look past super easily. | ||
| It's a flaw. | ||
| It's a probably big issue. | ||
| The second thing that's of note is that the comorbidities the study did track and how heavily they skewed towards the vaccinated group. | ||
| They included hyperlipidemia, which is an elevated level of lipids in your blood, which is associated with heart attacks and strokes. | ||
| 10% of the unvaccinated group had this compared to almost 33% of the vaccinated. | ||
| They also included hypertension, which 9.5% of the unvaccinated group had compared to 29.5% of the vaccinated. | ||
| If one of the things your study is looking at is like incidents of heart issues and you have this stark a difference in the groups, it's very unlikely that the result you arrive at is going to be of much use. | ||
| Anyway, the point is that there's no reason to take this study seriously. | ||
| Obviously, it's wise for doctors and researchers to stay vigilant to test hypotheses, even if they are unlikely to be proven correct. | ||
| But this is not that. | ||
| And the reporting in the bullshit ass Epoch Times is further not good. | ||
| And then Alex is just repeating it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, it is, it is like... | |
| It's one of those things where I feel like people understand in that kind of like almost surface level explanation of like the scientific method. | ||
| You know that idea of like, oh, we test, we do all this stuff. | ||
| But the actual studies, they don't quite make the next step to like, it's only useful if you can isolate information to one data point so that it's useful. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You have to get rid of all of the noise. | ||
| All of the noise to find one valuable thing. | ||
| And there's so much noise in that stupid thing. | ||
| When you're dealing with that much noise, you're wasting everybody's time. | ||
| Here's what I would say to clean it up a little. | ||
| I would say that the amount you should take the study seriously is the extent to which the noise is minimized. | ||
| And when there is that much cacophony, you don't need to take this as a, oh my god, vaccines are associated with all this other shit. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How well can you trust your accountant? | ||
| When I go to my accountant, he and I sit across the desk from each other. | ||
| When I go to my accountant, he is across the desk playing a lot of very loud... | ||
| Loud music and showing lights and shooting fireworks left and right. | ||
| I'm going to tell you why. | ||
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Because he is not a trustworthy accountant. | |
| So look, man, they just don't want to respond to facts like this study that Alex read a headline about in the Epoch Times. | ||
| It does sound true. | ||
| It's just these people don't like facts. | ||
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Bastards. | |
| They don't want to respond to any of the facts that we see all around us. | ||
| The plunging life expectancy of every country that took the shot. | ||
| The plunging fertility rate of every country that took the shots. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| The exploding cardiovascular situation. | ||
| It's just unbelievable they actually did it. | ||
| I mean, I find it hard. | ||
| And that's what they're counting on. | ||
| Is it so horrible, so crazy, so over the top? | ||
| The Netherlands. | ||
| Oh, by 2030, 90% of all cows will be killed in the Netherlands. | ||
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What? | |
| Kill 30% this year. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Some people in polls are against it. | ||
| They roll tanks and troops in and beat and attack the farmers and just start slaughtering their cows. | ||
| It's barely on the news. | ||
| That's barely on the news. | ||
| It's very... | ||
| Very hard to respond to alleged facts when the person presenting them intentionally jumps all over the place from one right-wing grievance talking point to the next when there's no connection between them. | ||
| But I'll try. | ||
| The first part is about declining fertility and life expectancy in the countries that took the shot. | ||
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Right. | |
| I presume he means mRNA shots because that's supposed to be such an important part of the conspiracy, but Alex isn't clear, so I'm not sure what to do with that. | ||
| If we just look at life expectancy, this isn't true. | ||
| Australia is one of the main countries that Alex says lived under complete COVID tyranny, and between 2018 and 2021, their life expectancy actually increased slightly. | ||
| The same is true of Canada, another country that's supposed to have been ruled by Klaus Schwab drone dictator Justin Trudeau. | ||
| On the flip side, Russia, the country that's rejected the shot, according to Alex, has a life expectancy that's dropped four years since 2019. | ||
| That's a real problem for Alex's conclusion. | ||
| Life expectancy in the United States has also dropped, but that's because of COVID. | ||
| Same for Russia. | ||
| If you look at the countries that suffered the most COVID deaths, you see similar dips in life expectancy. | ||
| Conversely, if you look at countries with the highest rates of vaccination, you don't see similar trends. | ||
| This is because COVID is driving dips in life expectancy, not vaccination. | ||
| In terms of fertility, there's been a downward trend in this since the 1960s of decreasing births per person who can get pregnant. | ||
| It has nothing to do with COVID or vaccination. | ||
| It's just a decades-long trend made possible by the advent of easy access to birth control and family planning and increasing standards of living in many parts of the world. | ||
| The less individual control a person has over their reproductive capacity, the more children they will end up having. | ||
| It's a pretty truism. | ||
| That's kind of how it works. | ||
| Ironically, the U.S. stopped its downward trend right when COVID started, and there's been a slight increase since. | ||
| Again, what Alex is saying doesn't comport with available data. | ||
| He's just repeating right-wing anti-vax talking points and then asserting them as the truth. | ||
| Then he shifts over to cattle policy in the Netherlands. | ||
| That's what was confusing to me! | ||
| It's a bit of a jump. | ||
| I wanted to know more about that, because I'm interested in hearing anybody's idea if it begins with, we're going to go in and we're going to kill all your cows. | ||
| 90%. | ||
| 90% of your cows by 2030. | ||
| So I don't think the things Alex is saying are true, because he's known to make shit up and exaggerate, but there is a real issue going on right now with the Dutch agricultural sector. | ||
| The government of the Netherlands is obligated to protect certain areas of nature, thanks to regulation passed by the EU. | ||
| Some of these areas they need to protect happen to be pretty near large, highly polluting cattle farms, and the only way to resolve that issue is for the government to buy out some of these farmers. | ||
| Right. | ||
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This has been a huge deal in the Netherlands since 2019, and Alex hasn't really talked about it much, but it's a great option for something he can yell about now since the latest Dutch election saw a rise of extreme right-wing nationalist parties, so this is ripe for Alex to glom onto. | |
| Right, okay. | ||
| Yeah, that's why this is pivoting in. | ||
| So... | ||
| Geert Wilders is essentially going to wind up being the Bundy family of Dutch cows. | ||
| Well, it's interesting because they're, like, I obviously am not an expert in Dutch politics, but you have that going on with the Wilders, the Freedom Party, whatever the fuck it's called. | ||
| And then you also have the BBB, which is a farmer-based party that gained a bunch of seats in the other House of Congress. | ||
| And so they emerged, I think they won, like, 16 seats out of nowhere. | ||
| And so there is this other side that doesn't appear to be as fanatical, but is motivated heavily by the situation with the agricultural sector. | ||
| So you have a confluence of those two things that I don't know how alive they are. | ||
| So the EU shouldn't have fucked with Dutch cows. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| It's looking like that's where we're headed. | ||
| So since the most recent elections, the government has already decided to push the date. | ||
| that they want to hit emissions decrease goals from 2030 to 2035. | ||
| So Alex is already wrong on that front. | ||
| The proposal to reduce livestock numbers by a third was an old proposal that they had, which Alex doesn't realize has been replaced by a voluntary model where the government is offering to buy out farmers who would like to be bought out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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According to the Associated Press, as of November 30th, over 750 farmers have signed up for this plan. | |
| Okay. | ||
| The image that Alex is painting is ridiculous. | ||
| He wants the audience to think that there's militarized units going out to farms and killing people's cows. | ||
| If there's anyone who doesn't want to deal with facts, I'm afraid it might be Alex himself. | ||
| This is tanks rolling up to kill your cows. | ||
| It does have the vibe of, like, Alex is describing the Vietnam War restarting, and people are taking tanks through the Dutch jungles to murder their cows, you know? | ||
| You see a cow in a tree. | ||
| It's like, wait, what's happening here? | ||
| All right, okay. | ||
| That is what you come away with. | ||
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| It's stark imagery. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| So you got some other news? | ||
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Sure. | |
| A little closer to home. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's just insane. | ||
| It doesn't sound real. | ||
| I remember like two years ago, the document came out of the Department of Energy. | ||
| They said, yeah, we're going to have regulations in 2023 to ban the new production of gas range stoves. | ||
| They went, oh no, that's a conspiracy theory, even though it was a real memo, and now they're saying, yes, we want it, and New York just banned them or began the process. | ||
| I mean, it's just... | ||
| It's always the same tactics. | ||
| Like, oh, we don't want illegal aliens to vote. | ||
| And then over 100 jurisdictions have passed laws that illegal aliens can vote. | ||
| All Democrat. | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh, there's no caravans. | ||
| Remember just three, four years ago? | ||
| That's illegal. | ||
| There's no caravans. | ||
| John Stewart. | ||
| There's no caravans. | ||
| Giant 100,000 person caravans slamming into the border every month. | ||
| Now it's every week. | ||
| I mean, it is insane asylum level. | ||
| So New York didn't really ban gas stoves. | ||
| They just banned them in new houses and new homes that are being built. | ||
| There are good environmental and consumer health-related reasons to make such a regulation, but it really doesn't matter to someone like Alex. | ||
| To him, climate change is a non-issue, so anyone trying to make some kind of change based on concerns about climate change, they must be doing it for some other nefarious reason. | ||
| Because Alex knows climate change is a hoax, the people pushing changes based on climate change must also know that it's a hoax. | ||
| And since they know it's a hoax, it It must be a big power grab predicated on a lie. | ||
| Discussing these kind of issues with someone like Alex is pointless. | ||
| Cynthia lives in a fully constructed alternative reality that you're never going to get any traction. | ||
| Alex is wrong, also, about the non-citizen voting. | ||
| He says that a hundred jurisdictions have passed laws allowing non-citizens to vote, but that's... | ||
| Totally not true. | ||
| I mean, it's illegal to do that. | ||
| Well, I mean, there is a kernel of what he's lying about that is true. | ||
| He's just making up numbers, though, to dazzle the audience. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In the real world, there are three states that allow non-citizens to vote in local elections. | ||
| But that does not mean the entire state allows it. | ||
| For instance, California is one of these states, but non-citizens are only allowed to vote in Oakland, where they passed a charter amendment that allowed parents and legal guardians who are non-citizen residents to vote for school board director. | ||
| Maryland includes 11 municipalities that allow non-citizen voting, and Vermont has three. | ||
| That is it. | ||
| That's what Alex is exaggerating out to be. | ||
| Hundreds of jurisdictions allowing undocumented immigrants to vote so they can be used to rig future elections. | ||
| It's a load of shit for a number of reasons. | ||
| The chief of them being that most of these laws specifically only allow legal residents to vote in those local elections. | ||
| Non-citizen permanent residents are a real group of people Alex pretend don't exist. | ||
| And I'm not sure I've ever heard a persuasive argument for why they shouldn't be able to vote in these local elections. | ||
| Because the green card is green and I want an American red card! | ||
| If you have kids in a school and you're a legal resident, it's weird. | ||
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People like Alex don't think people from Puerto Rico are Americans. | |
| That is true. | ||
| So at a certain point, just be like, hey, listen, these people are idiots. | ||
| That is a fair point. | ||
| As of the matter of the caravans thing, it wasn't so much that people were contesting that there was a large group of immigrants and refugees headed toward the border. | ||
| It was that people contested the conspiracy narrative that people like Alex were constructing about it and how it was being used to incite racism and xenophobia. | ||
| I mean, he did it on Tucker's show. | ||
| They're brainwashing for five years these immigrants to be used as a mind-controlled underclass and all this shit. | ||
| That's the kind of stuff that people are like, this is ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, in the past, what? | ||
| For however long I can remember, it's every... | ||
| Every three to six months, there's a brand new, completely massive, huge thing that's coming to our borders, and it's going to happen, and then the day that it's supposed to happen, it doesn't, and then the next day, it never happened in the past, and we never talk about it. | ||
| There's been more than one migrant caravan there. | ||
| I can test your schedule, but yes. | ||
| Spiritually, that is definitely true, and it seems to happen when right-wing people need to boost their poll numbers. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| All of a sudden, there's something, and then it happened. | ||
| Oh, well, it didn't happen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can recognize that a group of people is heading toward the country's border while at the same time rebuking the narrative that these people are an invasion force or waves smashing against the border with a goal of overwhelming the country. | ||
| People rejected this racist framing that people like Alex used to cover the story, and for Alex that means that they're saying that no immigrants are coming. | ||
| He's incapable of responding to rebuttals that his content is inherently racist and his framing of stories is dishonest. | ||
| So instead, he just creates straw man criticisms of himself to respond to, and you just see that over and over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, people really just, they just don't want to admit that Alex Jones was right about Biden kicking his dog. | ||
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| That's the main, that's what people are really trying to keep away from Twitter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That truth. | ||
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| That's the government. | ||
| And thank God someone like Tucker has the courage. | ||
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| To talk to Alex. | ||
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| And maybe Elon will let Alex back on Twitter now. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Let me tell you, Tucker Carlson's a manly man, and he didn't put that aura off. | ||
| He's this happy, jolly elf. | ||
| But the best way to describe Tucker Carlson is Santa Claus. | ||
| He's a young Santa Claus. | ||
| He's 50-something years old. | ||
| But I'm going to stop gushing about Tucker Carlson. | ||
| I'm going to get into Elon Musk coming up, coming out. | ||
| A whole bunch of tweets yesterday saying he's looking to unman Alex Jones, and it's bigger than me. | ||
| What does that signify with Elon doing that? | ||
| That he's given up. | ||
| I don't think he's given up, because he never really... | ||
| I'm actually just blown away by Tucker being older than Alex. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That is fucking crazy. | ||
| That just talked on me while listening to that clip. | ||
| It really just... | ||
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Alex is 50. Tucker is 54. That is just not okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That is just not okay. | ||
| For Alex talking about, like, vaccines prematurely aging you and all this, I would say that his products are a... | ||
| There's a much stronger case study to be made, but that breaks down your DNA and ages you, because holy shit. | ||
| Just looking at the two of them right next to each other is just bananas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, it doesn't signify that Elon's given up. | ||
| It's more just like, there's no standard. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's a little bit like... | ||
| Alex does look a little bit like a picture of a 15-year-old during the... | ||
| Height of the Industrial Revolution, though, you know, where it's like people went from being seven years old to 45 in about five years. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, because it's just so much smog and smoke on your face all day, every day. | ||
| I could see that. | ||
| Yeah, and Alex aged like that. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Alex aged in time compressed. | ||
| That's what the info war will do to you, man. | ||
| I will. | ||
| When you have to make up shit about articles every day, that's a stressful fucking job. | ||
| You read a meme and then you're like, fuck, I gotta fill half an hour on this. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| You know, I wonder. | ||
| It's not hard, but I wonder if it is stressful. | ||
| You know, you'd have to remove so many other variables of stress from his life that I have no idea if we'd ever be able to tell. | ||
| We'd never be able to unwrap it all. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Also, it is weird that you and Alex both call Tucker an elf. | ||
| Slightly differently. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| So there's some other Tucker news. | ||
| And it gets better today. | ||
| Let's punch him up real quick before we go to break. | ||
| Look at that Moses beard. | ||
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That's Hillbilly right there, boy. | |
| Solitary confinement. | ||
| They were keeping there the whole time until the pressure. | ||
| They released him 15 days early. | ||
| Owen is on the highway, leaving Louisiana for Texas. | ||
| He'll be back next week. | ||
| And he's going to be on Tucker either Tuesday or Wednesday. | ||
| If his probation officer lets him get on an airplane, maybe he'll do it remote. | ||
| Maybe they'll let him do it remote. | ||
| You know, the judge said in his sentencing document he's going to jail for a speech. | ||
| Maybe Owen will get more prison time for what he's about to say straight ahead. | ||
| So Owen Schroer, the Cuck Destroyer, live on air straight ahead. | ||
| Big broadcast today. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Owen Schroer's going to be on Tucker. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's a little sad. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I mean, we have to do it. | ||
| We do. | ||
| There's no choice. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
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There's no choice. | |
| I was listening to the episode of, like, I don't look forward to that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Alex probably, like, he's like, this will be great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because, you know, it'll be free PR for InfoWars. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This will be great. | ||
| And also... | ||
| It'll move the needle so much less than me, it'll put Owen back in his place. | ||
| Yeah, it would be nice. | ||
| People will care so much less than Owen Troyer. | ||
| People will care so little that even though you were on fucking Tucker, people care less about you than the guy who claimed to fuck Obama. | ||
| Yeah, get off your high horse, ding-dong. | ||
| I know you just got out of jail, but you're no Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, come on, buddy. | ||
| Look at these numbers. | ||
| This isn't blow. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Owen comes on. | ||
| He is on the side of the road, I think. | ||
| And when Alex is saying it's a Moses beard, it doesn't really look that much bigger than his beard normally was. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| It's not been that long! | ||
| It hasn't really. | ||
| It's not a real length of time! | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a definition of slap on a wrist kind of time. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| Alex is going to try and coach Owen about what to do on Tucker when he goes on. | ||
| This is a good use of time. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I hope when you go on Tucker next week, because it will reach tens of millions of people, that you don't just talk about your experience, Owen, but this is a larger persecution going on. | ||
| They're trying to put Trump in prison. | ||
| They're trying to put everybody else in prison. | ||
| They're trying to put me in prison. | ||
| And people need to understand that the judge said, and I want you to send that to Tucker. | ||
| I got you on the phone with the producer today. | ||
| Say, call me. | ||
| I wanted you on. | ||
| To show people the sentencing document where the judge says, well, I have three examples the FBI gave me. | ||
| Or the Justice Department, where Owen in the last few months said the election was stolen. | ||
| So because he's not remorseful, you're at the Capitol trying to stop people going in, but because you believe it was stolen, which is overwhelming, and the majority of Americans believe in major polls, they're sending you to jail. | ||
| They want you to know, we're criminals, we're going to put you in prison for your speech. | ||
| I mean, they have indicted themselves. | ||
| They are tyrants naked. | ||
| Wanting us to know they are, thinking that will then intimidate us, Owen, and that's really the gauntlet they've thrown down here. | ||
| Well, and of course, in the sentencing memo, and part of my sentencing was, well, if not the majority, was my speech. | ||
| And one of the speeches cited was me saying death to tyrants, which, by the way, is the logo on the Virginia state flag, so what are they going to ban that next to? | ||
| But, I mean, it's a pretty simple question and answer. | ||
| Who would be offended by saying death to tyrants? | ||
| Well, tyrants would be offended by that. | ||
| Now, I would suggest, if people want to get the background, if you're just hearing about this for the first time, go look at the press conferences my attorney and I, Norm Pattis, have done. | ||
| We did another sit-down. | ||
| We did an interview with you, Alex. | ||
| We did another long-form press conference, if you will, showing the sentencing memo, how they're punishing me for speech. | ||
| How they're punishing me for not being remorseful, for not believing that the 2020 election results were legitimate. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Trump just gets 30, 40, 50,000 people at a rally. | ||
| Joe Biden can't fill a broom closet. | ||
| But hey, let's just go ahead and go with that. | ||
| Joe Biden gets the most votes of all time. | ||
| We won't pontificate on that too much. | ||
| But when people read the sentencing memo, it's exactly what you said. | ||
| This is a speech crime. | ||
| We are now living in an age in America where speech crimes and thought crimes are being punishable. | ||
| But they don't just want to say, oh, we're going to throw you in jail for your speech. | ||
| They want to be able to make you change your speech in a 1984 Orwellian news speak manner to say, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Not only are you going to go to jail, we're going to force you to apologize and retract your statements, which, by the way, sad to say, a lot of Trump's attorneys And a lot of Trump's team did just that, in case you didn't notice in the last month. | ||
| Well, because they were facing more than a month and a half or whatever in jail. | ||
| They're facing a lot more serious charges than your dumb probation violation shit. | ||
| So there's a couple things that Owen may be fudging a little bit about this sentencing memo. | ||
| For one thing, he didn't just say death to tyrants into a megaphone on January 6th. | ||
| The full quote included in the memo is, quote, the Democrats are posing as communists, but we know what they really are. | ||
| They're just tyrants. | ||
| They're tyrants. | ||
| So on January 6th, we declare death to tyranny. | ||
| Death to tyrants. | ||
| So really, he was saying death to Democrats. | ||
| Well, there is that if you understand words to have meaning. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm also sure that he would want death for all the fake Republicans who don't support Trump enough, too, because that's tyranny. | ||
| Owen got in trouble because he didn't do his community service for a previous deferred sentencing agreement, and because he failed to uphold his part of that agreement, he was still bound by his own agreement to not engage in any disruptive or disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. | ||
| It was his own fault. | ||
| and then he pled guilty to the charge in front of him that sent him to jail for a few weeks. | ||
| The fact that Owen's words and actions since January 6th clearly illustrate a person who takes no responsibility for his actions that was a factor in the sentencing guidelines, as it is in every prosecution, but it wasn't the reason that Owen went to jail. | ||
| The sentencing memo very clearly discusses free speech objections that could be made to Owen's incarceration and flatly rejects all of them, citing Supreme Court decisions and past case law. | ||
| As the Supreme Court has decided, quote, the Constitution does not erect a per se barrier to the admission of evidence concerning one's beliefs and associations at situations These dudes are absolute babies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It is... | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Like, what I don't understand is how it's not part of your probation or whatever it is when you get out that you can't lie about why you went in. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, I mean, it's fine. | ||
| If you're like a regular-ass guy, fucking, yeah, fuck, lie. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| If you're on a job application, lie. | ||
| Who's gonna follow up on you? | ||
| If you're on TV or some shit, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| You shouldn't be allowed to lie about why you went to prison. | ||
| Well, you can, but everybody who knows the truth should look at you as a coward and a liar. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You'd think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I do. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, I'm not going to play this clip, but there's a part where the mics, there's a bit of an issue with the mics, and it really sounds like Alex is snorting something. | ||
| But I think it's actually just like his chair moving or something. | ||
| Ah, you got a little squeak that wasn't a fart. | ||
| Yeah, but it did really sound like he might have been doing blows. | ||
| Disaster. | ||
| So, Owen, you know, he's a victim, persecuted. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| And we'll talk more about that. | ||
| What is your main mission going to be now that you have been... | ||
| Because, again, think about their mindset. | ||
| Put him in jail, that'll intimidate people, but it only made you bigger. | ||
| Again, they only play one-dimensional. | ||
| They don't think second, third, fourth, fifth magnitude order developments. | ||
| Well, it is the Streisand effect, there's no doubt, because as far as we can tell, and my attorneys and I are still looking into this, I think I'm the only person ever... | ||
| To be in a federal prison with a misdemeanor, ever. | ||
| Nobody has ever heard of somebody with a misdemeanor in a federal prison. | ||
| None of the inmates that did long time, none of the guards, nobody's ever heard of that. | ||
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So what happens is people say, why are they putting this guy in prison? | |
| I want to look into what he's saying. | ||
| So there's no doubt that is going on. | ||
| And that is a game that they are able to play, but there are plenty of people who have gone to federal prison because of misdemeanors. | ||
| That's absurd. | ||
| He might want to look into some of the other January 6th defendants. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Yeah, ridiculous. | ||
| That is like a perfect example of a thing that you could say to somebody that as long as they don't just go like, wait. | ||
| What? | ||
| Are you serious? | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But a single follow-up question demolishes all of that. | ||
| But I also actually kind of believe that Owen might believe it, because he said that he's talking with his lawyer, and that's Norm. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I bet Norm would be like, I can't believe this. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Incompetent ass, no pants, N-word jokes. | ||
| Norm would say that just because you're paying him, too. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, I got pretty excited about this next clip, because Owen is talking about, like, what is going to be happening now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| His mission. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But I will say this. | ||
| There's an issue that I'm definitely going to be taking up now, and as far as the capacity or the level of it, I'm not quite sure yet, but prison reform is a major issue that we need to address immediately in this country, and I know that my name got brought up. | ||
| During the BOP hearing when they're requesting $2 billion more, and it didn't go so well for them because the whole thing is incompetence, ineptitude, and I would say at least half the people that are in the prisons right now probably don't even belong there. | ||
| You mentioned this earlier. | ||
| You go into major inner cities, Democrat cities, Soros DAs, they release the most violent criminals in the country back out onto the streets, but they have all kinds of political prisoners. | ||
| Rotting in jail cells every day that most people don't know about. | ||
| And now I'm going to be able to have their voices be heard, and a lot of people inside are really encouraged by this because nobody's gotten this much attention. | ||
| That's been put away like they have. | ||
| Absolutely, because what they're doing is they're releasing violent people, but not the nonviolence. | ||
| So then it discredits prison reform, and then they defund the police at the same time, and they make us want more prisons. | ||
| This is all a gayly dialectic. | ||
| The people running this are very sophisticated. | ||
| They're very sophisticated, this thing that isn't going on. | ||
| Very sophisticated. | ||
| So, look, here's the deal. | ||
| Bullshit about violent criminals being released and nonviolent people. | ||
| That's a load of shit. | ||
| But... | ||
| I do agree with Owen that there are too many people in prison, and they shouldn't be. | ||
| I agree with him. | ||
| Now, he's going to drop this immediately. | ||
| Yeah, obviously. | ||
| In the same way that Alex had a crusade against DUI laws. | ||
| He's never going to let this stand for a single second longer. | ||
| I've already completely forgotten. | ||
| Yeah, what? | ||
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What? | |
| Huh? | ||
| Yeah, this is not going to happen. | ||
| But Owen's take on prison reform is not useful. | ||
| But I can't disagree with the underlying premise that there are a lot of people in prison who don't need to be. | ||
| Even though I hate him and I think he's a piece of shit and all that, he is on the right track, but he's sort of walking sideways on that track. | ||
| You cannot be a reasonable person and look at the United States prison system and not go, oh, most of these people shouldn't be here. | ||
| They just shouldn't. | ||
| I don't think Owen would have taken that position before he went to prison. | ||
| I don't think so either, but if you go, you can't be a reasonable... | ||
| It's like waterboarding, you know? | ||
| It's like whenever man-cow talked to such a big, oh, don't give a shit, and then you waterboard him, he's like, man, waterboarding's torture. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Prison's bad! | ||
| It is not... | ||
| This is not something that... | ||
| Here's what I would say. | ||
| This isn't going to turn into a crusade on Owen's part. | ||
| No. | ||
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However... | |
| There's a part of me that would be interested to see what that would even look like. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| Like, what is Owen Schroyer champion for prison reform? | ||
| What does that look like? | ||
| Well, I kept... | ||
| Whenever he said that... | ||
| At what point is he going to realize the institutional racism that has to do with incarceration rates? | ||
| At what point is he going to turn woke? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| No, I mean, the thing that kept getting into my head while he was talking about that is like, there are people whose voices I'm going to be able to... | ||
| And it's like, who in there is like... | ||
| Having a conversation right now, like, oh man, Owen said that he would talk about what's going on in here. | ||
| Owen said, and somebody's got to be like that. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's Infowars. | ||
| He does not give a shit about us at all. | ||
| No, he's using us. | ||
| No, no, he said he was going to bring attention to the prison. | ||
| He was there. | ||
| He got hit with the rest of us. | ||
| They saw what happened. | ||
| They're going to see, man. | ||
| Nah, dude. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Nah, that's Owen Troyer. | ||
| This is your first day, man. | ||
| This is the cuck destroyer. | ||
| So, uh, Owen turns the attention around on Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's like, hey man, your life's work is basically accomplished, right? | ||
| Like I said earlier, I think that we're really at a turning point now. | ||
| I'm not guaranteeing victory or anything, and this is all in God's hands. | ||
| No, I totally agree. | ||
| Everybody agrees that the turning is happening. | ||
| It feels better to be out of prison. | ||
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I will say that. | |
| Your life's work, Alex, 20-plus years of doing this, I've seen you go through highs, I've seen you go through lows, I've seen them try to destroy you, and still you're here on air today giving me this platform for my first statements. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| How do you feel seeing this? | ||
| Do you feel like your life's work is starting to finally be manifest and the fruits are starting to grow? | ||
| I definitely see it and I know it, but it really means we're just waking up now to the fight we were already in. | ||
| We're getting beat up in our bed. | ||
| We're waking up and we're finally starting to throw our first punches and we're landing our first punches. | ||
| So we're already bloodied and stabbed, but we're a lot tougher than the enemy. | ||
| And so, yeah, we're going to be on top of them very soon throwing elbows right into their eye sockets. | ||
| And basically, we're going to tear their head off nonviolently as a metaphor. | ||
| But we're about to bash the brains out and knock their teeth out. | ||
| Violently as a non-metaphor. | ||
| Pull their eyeballs out. | ||
| Politically. | ||
| Politically, of course. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, literally, though. | ||
| Wait, literally, though? | ||
| We're getting beat. | ||
| We're bleeding. | ||
| We start getting up, fighting. | ||
| We throw a couple of shots, and they already ran up against the wall, and we're like, whoa. | ||
| And we just got to get in there and just get going, and we're going to win this thing, brother. | ||
| You guys are fucking dorks. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Just can't not, like, just grotesquely descend into violent fantasies. | ||
| Alex, how do you feel seeing this? | ||
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I feel like we could have not paid you for another couple weeks. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| That's gonna cut into payroll, buddy. | ||
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Yup. | |
| So, uh, we have... | ||
| Gotta get two more weeks of Chase Geyser on there. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Chase! | ||
| No! | ||
| You're fired! | ||
| No! | ||
| We didn't even get to know you. | ||
| Oh, we hardly knew thee, Geyser. | ||
| Geyser has exploded. | ||
| Gone off. | ||
| So we know that Owen was in solitary confinement. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so he talks a little bit about that here. | ||
| And I got a couple of senses that maybe it wasn't quite... | ||
| We heard he was in solitary confinement. | ||
| And he was maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Folks, I was in solitary confinement for quarantine for seven days. | ||
| No access to anything. | ||
| I got out. | ||
| I made one phone call. | ||
| They immediately put me back into solitary confinement where I remained for the first 26 days of my sentencing. | ||
| Now, because of the political pressure, I was able to have a meeting with the warden. | ||
| And I will give a shout-out to the warden. | ||
| I think he treated me fairly. | ||
| Shout-out to the warden. | ||
| As he possibly could, given the circumstances. | ||
| I think he's a good man and a good American. | ||
| But when I sat down for that meeting, still cuffed. | ||
| He looked at me like he was looking at a ghost or like some sort of a spirit or an apparition because he sits me down and he's like, what's going on? | ||
| What are you telling the people? | ||
| What is your message? | ||
| What are you doing here? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And I'm just sitting there because I... | ||
| Hold on, I've got to go to break. | ||
| Five more minutes. | ||
| I've got to hear this story. | ||
| What have you done? | ||
| A loving thing. | ||
| Oh, the prison's fine. | ||
| Thanks for the crew. | ||
| Thanks for the letters of support. | ||
| Love you all. | ||
| God loves you. | ||
| I love Jesus. | ||
| They're like, what did you do? | ||
| Because, you know, the feds called and said, throw that son of a bitch in a dungeon. | ||
| I haven't heard this yet. | ||
| We'll only talk like 10 minutes this morning. | ||
| Let's come back and talk about that. | ||
| I'm going to get into the Elon Musk, the Twitter, the wars, Biden, nuclear blackmail. | ||
| I mean, it's totally insane. | ||
| But I've got to do this or we won't be here. | ||
| Do your Christmas shopping at infowarstore.com. | ||
| So that first stretch of special housing wasn't even a punishment or anything. | ||
| It was a routine quarantine surrounding intake. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So that... | ||
| I don't know what kind of mileage you're going to get out of that. | ||
| Then Owen gets out and calls into the conspiracy propaganda radio show on which he made a ton of the inciting comments that contributed to January 6th and on whose behalf he was at the Capitol illegally in the first place. | ||
| I don't understand how Owen could think it was his speech that's the problem there. | ||
| This is an abuse of his ability to use a phone. | ||
| I'm opposed to most aspects of the carceral state, so I don't think this is good, but while he's in jail, he doesn't have the freedom to make There's some good bars that have been released | ||
| on... | ||
| Prison phones. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, Young Thug's new album is probably going to be mostly prison phone based. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But all I'm saying is the prison would be well justified to revoke Owen's phone privileges. | ||
| Unless Young Thug's album is really great. | ||
| What if Owen did a bar on that? | ||
| Just one bar. | ||
| Just one bar! | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Also, I love how Alex jumped in there writing a little fantasy about what happened with the Warden so he can cut Owen off and get to the plug. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
| Great, great, great, great, great. | ||
| No, this is absolutely fun stuff. | ||
| So, we're going to hear a retelling of the story with the warden with a little bit more detail. | ||
| And I think I understand what probably happened here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we can talk about that here on the other side of this clip. | ||
| We're going to have to try and interpret through the dream speech. | ||
| You're like, yeah, this is very biblical. | ||
| You know, you're going to teach the pharaoh about what's coming. | ||
| I have some translating ability. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Over years, I've become acclimated to Infowars speak. | ||
| Yeah, so obviously I get out of the solitary confinement quarantine. | ||
| It was seven days in there. | ||
| And I make one phone call thanking people for all their love and the support and the mail and the prayers. | ||
| And then I get thrown right back into solitary in the SHU, as it's known, the special housing unit, which is basically like a high-security prison situation. | ||
| No movement, locked up all day. | ||
| Three showers a week. | ||
| You get cuffed every time you go to the shower. | ||
| It's a whole thing. | ||
| And so I have no connection with the outside. | ||
| I'm not able to make phone calls. | ||
| I'm not able to talk to you or anybody. | ||
| I'm not able to talk to friends, family, lawyers, nothing. | ||
| I'm just sitting in there rotting way. | ||
| I have no idea what's going on. | ||
| And so after a couple weeks of that, the warden comes by and he pulls me out and I have a meeting with him. | ||
| And he's looking at me like he's looking at the reincarnation of Moses or something. | ||
| And I don't know what's going on. | ||
| And he's like, tell me, what's your agenda here? | ||
| What are you trying to do? | ||
| And I don't know what's going on. | ||
| And I just say, oh, well, I just made a phone call to thank people for the letters. | ||
| Like, did you hear it? | ||
| I wasn't trying to cause any trouble because I don't know what's going on. | ||
| And then I realized at that point, he's like, okay, he really doesn't know what's going on. | ||
| But then he brings up, he's like, I'm getting all this political pressure. | ||
| I'm hearing from lawyers. | ||
| We're hearing from Congress members. | ||
| We're getting brought up during congressional hearings and all this stuff. | ||
| And I guess they thought somehow I was running it from my cell. | ||
| I guess they thought somehow that I was... | ||
| The man pulling the strings on all of this. | ||
| And I had no connection with the outside world. | ||
| And I think it kind of hit maybe him at that point like, oh, this is all organic. | ||
| This is the American people. | ||
| This is people trying to get the truth out. | ||
| And this man really has been treated extremely wrong. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The left is in their bubble. | ||
| They always say the right's in a bubble. | ||
| No, we're not in a bubble. | ||
| We're out here running the country, actually plowing the fields, driving the trucks, taking care of the kids, stopping the criminals. | ||
| You know, busting our ass, and we're in the real world, and the left, and they're minions, and this guy's probably not a leftist, but he works for them. | ||
| They don't get, we know what's going on. | ||
| We're watching. | ||
| We're pissed, man. | ||
| They don't get that they've wrongly attacked. | ||
| We see the attack. | ||
| The country's being destroyed. | ||
| And when you're locking up journalists and filing fake federal filings that, you know, that you did all these horrible things, people see that, and they know they're next. | ||
| They have empathy because... | ||
| They care about themselves. | ||
| See, evil people don't have empathy because they're dumb. | ||
| Empathy is the most selfish thing on earth, folks. | ||
| When you have empathy, it's because you care about yourself. | ||
| And that's by extension, you care about others, but that's improgrammed in you, so we all take care of each other. | ||
| 60 Seconds Closing Comment, Owen. | ||
| I always love that barrage of nonsense and then you got a minute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't respond to any of that. | ||
| I would like narcissists to explain more things. | ||
| I would like Alex to explain more of what empathy means because I don't think he understands actually what the concept is. | ||
| I keep trying to find, like, okay, if that's what empathy gets filtered through a narcissist brain, like... | ||
| What other feelings could we put into that machine and then get what would come out, you know? | ||
| Try, like, love. | ||
| Right, right, right, okay. | ||
| So, love, so the most selfish thing that you can do, no, that's the same basic thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It all eventually comes back to... | ||
| Charity. | ||
| It all eventually comes back to, you're gonna make yourself feel good if you do the things that you want to do. | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| So what happened here is that Owen went to prison and Alex was on the outside inciting people to write and call to the prison. | ||
| Pretty regularly. | ||
| And I imagine that the warden got inundated with some kind of... | ||
| You know, essentially harassment from Alex's followers about how wrong it is that Owen has been in prison. | ||
| And they don't like that. | ||
| And so the warden may or may not have had a meeting with Owen about like... | ||
| What is going on with all of this harassment that is coming in? | ||
| Why are you fucking this up? | ||
| And Owen is not directly causing it, although he did call into the radio show, which, whether or not it was all just, I love Jesus, thank you for your support, I remember that, and it was actually a little bit more, hey, go to freeowenshroyer.com and donate to my money fund. | ||
| There was quite a bit of that. | ||
| So, you know, obviously the warden would be trying to figure out... | ||
| What happened here? | ||
| And maybe Owen behind bars wasn't actually actively involved in, you know, trying to incite people to bother the prison staff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But Alex certainly was. | ||
| Alex was taking that up for Owen and, you know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if there's anything in this story that is, like, very much believable. | ||
| It is that the warden probably abused his power somewhat because he was being annoyed by all the Infowarriors. | ||
| There may be a kernel of that. | ||
| I wouldn't surprise you at all. | ||
| But I also wouldn't be surprised if it's coincidental because, like we said, it's a pissant sentence. | ||
| Getting out two weeks early on this misdemeanor thing happens all the time. | ||
| So anyway, there's a little bit more to this story. | ||
| And this is where it becomes pretty unbelievable. | ||
| But let me just say this. | ||
| Before I left, I had another meeting with the warden, who I think is a good American. | ||
| And he said, Mr. Schroyer, in 27 years of working in the criminal justice system, I've never seen anybody get railroaded like you have. | ||
| And he shook my hand. | ||
| And so again, like when I was sitting there and he was looking at me, he was like, how are you doing all of this? | ||
| Like, how is it possible for you to be causing me all these problems when you're sitting in the cell? | ||
| And then he realized it wasn't me. | ||
| This was the American people. | ||
| It was Alex. | ||
| And so it was really a message to finish off what we started in the last segment. | ||
| It was a message that, folks, they can destroy Owen Schroer. | ||
| They can destroy Alex Jones. | ||
| They can lock us up. | ||
| They can rip out our vocal cords. | ||
| The American people are alive. | ||
| The Holy Spirit is alive. | ||
| And our divine creation is manifest destiny in our future. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They'll probably come after the warden because he didn't say you were a demon. | ||
| Manifest destiny in our future? | ||
| We're supposed to take over the continent? | ||
| Colonize the... | ||
| The continent? | ||
| The west. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just move west. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
| If you keep moving west, you'll get right back to where you started, and that's science. | ||
| So here's the great news. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If you just harass prisons enough... | ||
| Right. | ||
| ...you'll get anyone released. | ||
| That is pretty much the lesson that we've learned here. | ||
| That seems to be what Owen is... | ||
| It's either that, or if you're going to arrest one InfoWars host, you might as well arrest all of them. | ||
| It would reduce the harassment you're getting, possibly, because people would forget soon enough. | ||
| And eventually, I mean, the depth chart is so weak, we lost one guy and you end up with Chase Geyser. | ||
| Imagine if you lost two. | ||
| Put them both up there. | ||
| Make Harrison Smith varsity and let's ride this train to death. | ||
| So Owen takes off. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And Alex is left to his own devices. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so, again, he starts talking more about the Tucker interview. | ||
| About the Tucker interview, about how great he is, yes. | ||
| And that leads to... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Like, the rest of this is just... | ||
| I don't even know... | ||
| This is the face he wants to put on for people. | ||
| For people. | ||
| And it's absurd. | ||
| This interview is evergreen and will be explosively... | ||
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Evergreen. | |
| I mean, there's like certain movies that just are timeless and get better as the years go on. | ||
| Song of the South. | ||
| Christmas Story. | ||
| Things like that. | ||
| There's other movies that aren't good later. | ||
| They're not timeless. | ||
| This will be a timeless interview because I'd laid nothing out but facts. | ||
| And the goal is not to be right when all those horrible things happen. | ||
| The goal is, I already told you these horrible things were going to happen. | ||
| They did happen. | ||
| Now we know we're telling the truth. | ||
| Let's talk about stopping this. | ||
| And as it begins to happen, then people are really going to wake up. | ||
| And that was the vision God gave me. | ||
| It's just the understanding. | ||
| I talked about when I've been on air about three years, so I guess about 1996. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| 1997. | ||
| I don't remember the exact date. | ||
| We're doing this again. | ||
| I'm talking about this 100 times, probably 200 times. | ||
| You're probably saying, please don't tell it again while we have new listeners. | ||
| I'm in a restaurant after a two-hour local TV show, doing a radio show, eating a chicken fried steak. | ||
| The place is closing. | ||
| It's almost 10 o 'clock at night. | ||
| And it was like, you can feel the atmosphere change. | ||
| Did you get a download or something? | ||
| 30 minutes of me just sitting there with God communicating with me and saying, here's the plan. | ||
| You're going to lay out all the stuff they're planning, and then people aren't going to listen to you. | ||
| And then when it all comes true in the first enemy phase, this is not my brain. | ||
| This is God. | ||
| And I'm sitting there. | ||
| It's way more powerful and complex and just so much data. | ||
| I don't ramble as much. | ||
| You're like, like you stuck your finger in a light socket. | ||
| And God's like, but then they're going to listen to you once the stuff comes true. | ||
| And then you can tell them the next phase and we'll be able to mitigate that and they'll be flesh spared. | ||
| So it's revelation level stuff. | ||
| And I'm like, whoa. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| And God's like, but there's a proviso. | ||
| You're going to have to get really attacked and hurt, and it's going to feel really bad for a long time, and you've got to be ready. | ||
| At a certain point, you're going to spur, and your audience is going to spur, a whole movement against this. | ||
| You're going to see all these great new leaders pop up. | ||
| You have to be ready to support that and not want to be the leader. | ||
| And I was like, absolutely, I don't want to be the leader. | ||
| God said, well, that's why I chose you. | ||
| You accept this mission. | ||
| I said, I accept this mission. | ||
| I said it out loud. | ||
| I said, I accept the mission. | ||
| And God went, all right, you think you just got to download? | ||
| Get ready for this. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| Like an anvil. | ||
| A thousand pound anvil got dropped on my head like Wiley Code or something. | ||
| And it just all opened up from there. | ||
| And I couldn't even understand the data I was being given. | ||
| It took me years to even be able to understand what? | ||
| That's how this works in like third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, twelfth order responses and how this would happen and how the enemy would hit here and it would do all this. | ||
| And I'd start like gibbering on air. | ||
| This is going to happen. | ||
| That's going to happen. | ||
| And I'm like, how do you understand this? | ||
| Because I just, it's like so much data and I'm here trying to explain it all to you. | ||
| How do you describe what you're now living in 25 years ago? | ||
| Yeah, but why were you wrong about so much? | ||
| That's the part that still just doesn't match up with this whole thing. | ||
| I understand the, like... | ||
| Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| You have so much data. | ||
| Everything seems disconnected. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| That makes sense if you just had some sort of a prophetic download from a deity. | ||
| Your brain would be really challenged to deal with that. | ||
| But you wouldn't be wrong all the time. | ||
| In the art of war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It said that disinformation is sometimes necessary for enemies and allies. | ||
| I thought that was a Q quote. | ||
| And who wrote the art of war but God? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So when God gives you a message, you can't trust whether or not it's good or bad information. | ||
| It's only the information that you need to carry out what God wants you to achieve. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| This was a... | ||
| Don't you dare say fine at that! | ||
| How dare you just say fine at that! | ||
| I just want to move along. | ||
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I don't believe that this was a download from God is my issue. | |
| I think that this is a fun legend story for Alex. | ||
| I think it's fascinating that he has this large audience and he's like... | ||
| You know what I gotta get in? | ||
| I gotta get in that part about God deeming me the leader. | ||
| God bestowed upon me his mark of authority. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| What's that you say? | ||
| We got twice the normal audience? | ||
| Better tell that chicken steak story again. | ||
| And better continue on getting weird. | ||
| And I told people about this 20 years ago. | ||
| And people would make fun of me, other talk shows would call me and say, you got a vision from God that you're going to spark with your audience the global resistance, and that they won't listen to you up front, but a remnant will, and then that will trigger the global awakening. | ||
| You're a megalomaniac. | ||
| And I'm like, hey man, you weren't there. | ||
| And God's done things like, here's a dream that's going to come true. | ||
| And a lot of times it's some nonsensical thing. | ||
| What a weird God! | ||
| And they're going to tear down the golf course, and they're going to build a house right where the ninth hole was, where I grew up in Dallas. | ||
| And like three years later, they say, we've decided to change the golf course, and they bulldoze it. | ||
| And then I'm sitting there one day, and there's the dream with only the scaffolding and the outside of the house, the wood built, and it wasn't built yet. | ||
| And I'm sitting there on the back porch looking at this house that's been built. | ||
| I'm remembering the dream. | ||
| And I remember in the dream, a cat walks up to the top window of the house, and I'm sitting there, and then the cat walks up to the top window of the house, and I'm staring. | ||
| It's 50, 60 yards at a cat at night at 10 p.m. on no drugs, nothing. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, my God. | ||
| And God's like, yeah, I am God. | ||
| I want you to know that that's how that works. | ||
| I'm convinced. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| If I understand this... | ||
| If I understand God correctly, that cat was God going, yeah, I'm fucking God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You better believe it. | ||
| You better believe it. | ||
| Check me out. | ||
| I am a cat right now, which is very similar to a dream I gave you several years ago. | ||
| That makes me the God you want to follow and not a creepy weird monster from space. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| That Alex had this dream so long ago. | ||
| And then... | ||
| I just... | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I feel like if I were listening to this, I'd be like, whoa, Tucker interviewed this guy? | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| How do you not, like... | ||
| This guy seems nuts. | ||
| That is nuts. | ||
| That is nuts. | ||
| How do you not even... | ||
| As you're telling that story, and you're describing the feelings that you're having that should, like, lead you to be like, well, this is unacceptable behavior. | ||
| For deity or no. | ||
| That is fucked up. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| But it gets better. | ||
| It gets better. | ||
| And God will tell me. | ||
| It happens all the time. | ||
| Get up. | ||
| I don't have a clock in my bedroom. | ||
| Get up and go look at the microwave clock in the kitchen. | ||
| It's going to be 447 exactly. | ||
| Or 325. | ||
| Well, 522. | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| Hundreds of times. | ||
| But if you try to show somebody. | ||
| Specifically God. | ||
| It doesn't happen. | ||
| Because it's like that energy analysis they've done where. | ||
| It's been going for 50 years or 40 years where they'll have a particle. | ||
| Okay, I've had this exact same conversation with somebody else. | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| And then you turn the electron microscope back on, it's past it. | ||
| It's like you're not allowed to see it. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because it's God. | ||
| But it's God saying, all right, get up, go in the kitchen, or go in the bathroom, and then you go, and it's a digital clock, and it's always the exact number. | ||
| And that's God telling me. | ||
| You want to know how real I am? | ||
| God doesn't send some angel. | ||
| I don't see Jesus in my bedroom. | ||
| None of that. | ||
| God just says, okay, get up. | ||
| Walk out there. | ||
| And you're about to. | ||
| And every time. | ||
| It doesn't happen when I wake up and go, okay, go look at the clock. | ||
| You know the exact time. | ||
| And God's like, yes, I'm God. | ||
| And I want you to know right now, this is 100% real. | ||
| Do you understand? | ||
| I'm like, yes, yes, I understand. | ||
| And I have faith now when it happens. | ||
| But before, I would always not believe it. | ||
| I'd walk out. | ||
| It would always be the exact same time. | ||
| And then it would change the next minute. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So... | ||
| This guy that you want to take seriously about analysis of politics and concrete worldly things believes that evidence of God speaking to him is that he knows what time it is when he wakes up sometimes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he can't prove it to you because it's like the observer effect that when you ask him what time it is, he can never tell you because God doesn't work like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is so fun. | ||
| One of the most frequent formats of conversation with somebody who's doing a lot of coke is the, here's why you can't see me do blank amazing thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Because blank amazing thing will always be in the way. | |
| But let me explain this for a... | ||
| Dreadfully long period of time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, I can respect this on some level that religious people can be like, yeah, God doesn't play on your terms. | ||
| He plays on his own terms. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
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Fine. | |
| I mean, bringing the observer effect into it. | ||
| Alex's evidence of God's existence is he knows what time it is sometimes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Without asking. | ||
| That's how God lets him know. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Buddy, you're still on the right path. | ||
| Now, imagine this. | ||
| Here's what I'm thinking of. | ||
| I'm creating a god now who is going to communicate this way, but in such a way that could be useful. | ||
| And that is if Alex wakes up and sees the wrong time, that he'll know he's in the wrong universe and he's been kidnapped by a different god. | ||
| So that's what I would communicate with Alex in this case. | ||
| But again, that... | ||
| Removes me from Godland and turns me once again into a weird space monster. | ||
| And I think Alex just worships a weird space monster. | ||
| I'm gonna bet anything that Alex also frequently doesn't know what time it is, and he forgets it because he's half asleep. | ||
| That's God. | ||
| No, he forgot what time it was because God told us. | ||
| I mean, I've had the experience of, like... | ||
| Waking up and being like, oh, it's the time I thought it was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It has happened. | ||
| It happens to everybody. | ||
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They've also been wrong. | |
| You've woken up and you've been like, oh, I bet it's 3.47. | ||
| And you're like, holy shit, it's 3.47. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Do you know how many times you wake up? | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then do you know how many times it's some time? | ||
| All of them also. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sometimes they are the same. | ||
| I actually feel like I have significantly more respect for someone who's expressing a belief in God that doesn't come along with all this magical bullshit. | ||
| Oh yeah, absolutely. | ||
| This actually makes me loathe his perspective. | ||
| No, it is amazing how much this does make you respect faith. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| An actual faith is something that is worthy of respect. | ||
| Alex, could you have the faith that you have without knowing what time it is? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| Couldn't. | ||
| No. | ||
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Nope. | |
| I also don't have a whole lot of respect for faith that leads people to the politics, the worldview, the decisions, the outlook, the prescriptive ideas that Alex does. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because if that is the result of his interfacing with a god, that god is cruel. | ||
| That god is awful. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so, you know, you know somebody by the fruits, you know, Alex likes to say that, and Alex's fruits are terrible. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so if that is the result of him being on this mission from God and he's doing what he's supposed to do, that's, I mean, you've made the point many times that maybe it's the devil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Quite frankly. | ||
| Well, I mean, I don't, I wouldn't even go so, you know, I mean, the devil is kind of our point of view on it. | ||
| I think it's really, like, the idea that Alex could never handle. | ||
| And I don't think it's possible for him to handle this. | ||
| Is that God could very much be in Alex's point of view wrong, but Alex would have no choice, if that makes sense. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Just because you can say, you know, God could tell Alex to fucking do the opposite of what Alex wants to do and be like, hey, listen, you have to vote for Joe Biden. | ||
| And Alex can be like, oh, no, I disagree with you. | ||
| I think that's wrong or anything, but he has to do it. | ||
| That's what Alex could never do. | ||
| Alex will always choose Alex over God. | ||
| Or anything. | ||
| But here's the great part about it. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Alex's version of God is just his own mind. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he can rationalize this forever. | ||
| God will never tell him to do something that is against his own interests. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| So it's kind of perfect. | ||
| Now, if you think about it that way, everybody listening. | ||
| Now, it's just fascinating to me that this is where we're at. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is for a new audience. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| There might be some value in that, honestly. | ||
| Because you're going to weed out people who are going to eventually be turned off by your shit anyway. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| No point in doing a bait and switch. | ||
| You've already done the bait. | ||
| Now you're in the switch. | ||
| You've gotten them there. | ||
| And now, hey, can you handle it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you can, maybe you're a customer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you can't, you weren't going to give me money to begin with. | ||
| Because he didn't say the chicken fried steak story on the Tucker interview. | ||
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No. | |
| He waited until he was off the Tucker interview. | ||
| He didn't ramble about how he always knows what time it is because God tells him. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Well, what you going to do? | ||
| So we get a little more grounded now. | ||
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Sure. | |
| For a minute. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because it's not going to stay grounded. | ||
| Just like Deepwater Horizon, it came out in the court. | ||
| Transcripts of the phone calls, the emails. | ||
| BP was worth like $45 million there, and they said, well, we're drilling all these deep wells in the Gulf of Mexico. | ||
| Our executives say in the next month, if we just stop having 20 ships a day with concrete show up to dump those in the holes after they drill, we'll save hundreds of millions a day, and we'll be a $48 million company. | ||
| And they told the engineers in Houston to do it, and they called the engineers on the drilling rigs and said do it. | ||
| And all the engineers said, this is mathematics. | ||
| The seawater under the pressure is not going to hold those drilling holes down, and the gas and oil is going to come out at pressure. | ||
| We're not sure at what level, but it's there. | ||
| We're drilling in rich areas. | ||
| 30,000, 40,000 foot deep wells, it's going to explode. | ||
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And the email's like, we're a $44 billion company. | |
| Can an email talk like that? | ||
| We're about to be a $48 billion company. | ||
| And it blew up. | ||
| The first one they did it on. | ||
| They were planning to say, our executives say we don't put muds, what they call it, concrete, on top the hole above the drill. | ||
| As the drill goes down, they pump the mud in. | ||
| Show that there's enough pressure. | ||
| That it doesn't explode. | ||
| And they said it will explode. | ||
| And when they first turned it on, it didn't explode for a few dollars. | ||
| They went, I do the Kunas accent because the head executive in Houston was a Kunas. | ||
| And it shows him testifying in court. | ||
| He's like, I was told to do it. | ||
| We're going to make $4 billion not doing it. | ||
| We did that for ourselves. | ||
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Our executives have decided that mud is no longer needed. | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
| I'm going to get that done for you right now. | ||
| So, a year and a half ago, Biden, or a year ago, it's December, a year ago, we can't sit in Abrams tanks and F-16s and long-range missiles. | ||
| That's World War III. | ||
| Now, like, you know what? | ||
| It is World War III, dammit. | ||
| Let's get this son of a bitch going. | ||
| So, I guess that kind of relates. | ||
| Maybe? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Alex isn't reporting based on anything that came out in court transcripts or any of that shit. | ||
| He's just relaying what he saw in the 2016 Mark Wahlberg movie, Deepwater Horizon. | ||
| That accent that he's doing is a very over-the-top impression of John Malkovich's character, who's a bit Cajun. | ||
| Don't tell me that that's just an impression from a Mark Wahlberg movie. | ||
| Well, to be fair, it's the John Malkovich character in a Mark Wahlberg movie. | ||
| The dead giveaway is Alex is just repeating the plot of the movie here. | ||
| You can tell that because he says it shows him testifying in court, which is referring to the movie. | ||
| Because the movie did show John Malkovich's character testifying in court. | ||
| You know, that's... | ||
| Unfortunately, in the real world, Donald Vidrine, who's the character that Malkovich plays, didn't testify. | ||
| So that only exists in the movie, which is what Alex is talking about. | ||
| Alex can literally only be talking about this action movie he saw. | ||
| He can only be talking about the action movie. | ||
| Because this thing didn't happen in the real world. | ||
| Because it did not happen in the real world, but it did happen in the movie. | ||
| This is the quality of information you can rely on, Alex, for. | ||
| Also, Biden never said that sending Abrams tanks and F-16s into Ukraine would be causing World War III. | ||
| That is not true. | ||
| He said that you couldn't send those things in with American troops driving them, because that would be World War III. | ||
| Yes, that is how it works. | ||
| There's a meme that's been floating around dumb shit right-wing social media that misrepresents this quote, and Alex is... | ||
| His workflow is mostly movies and memes, so this is how he covers the news. | ||
| Anyway, at this point, Alex is going to go to Kohl's, and if the guy who has this information and is downloaded from God, all he can come up with is movies and memes, I don't know if I care about what the people who think he's a genius have to say. | ||
| One, two, three! | ||
| Matt Damon! | ||
| It was really weird to listen to this and then be like... | ||
| What does he do? | ||
| Oh, it's a movie. | ||
| That's right, it's a movie. | ||
| It's a movie. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We just, as a species, we gotta go back to the drawing board. | ||
| We got more work to do. | ||
| Spend more time in the oven. | ||
| Or people like... | ||
| I do wonder what a world would look like where the audience demanded more of Alex. | ||
| Like, I sincerely wonder what that would look like, because he could not live up to any higher demand of himself. | ||
| No, he couldn't. | ||
| He couldn't. | ||
| And he would resent people for asking. | ||
| Yeah, no, I mean, it is, I think what you have just, what you're describing is the literal definition of a rising tide lifts all boats. | ||
| If people demanded more of Alex, everything would go up a step. | ||
| Because if you demand more of Alex, you have to demand more of everybody who does more than Alex. | ||
| But if you demand more of Alex, his boat sinks. | ||
| That rising tide does not raise that boat. | ||
| No, I'm just saying that the... | ||
| Yeah, never mind. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| So Alex has heard that Elon Musk might be putting up a poll about whether or not he can come back on Twitter. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now, he can't find that poll. | ||
| And neither can the staff. | ||
| And he starts to get a little bit mad at them. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Breaking. | ||
| Elon Musk considers bringing Alex Jones back to X. We'll run poll to the side. | ||
| Elon says he's ready to poll X users on the reinstatement of Alex Jones. | ||
| You know, there's one thing we're blind around this operation. | ||
| Myself is the worst. | ||
| We don't report on ourselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we don't track what's happening with us. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Can't imagine what was going on in your personal life that I... | ||
| Where's my phone? | ||
| I guess I left it over there. | ||
| Can we just please sugar cakes on top? | ||
| Can we just go to Elon Musk's Twitter? | ||
| Because I just showed you the poll from earlier today. | ||
| And can we just show that to people? | ||
| Triple cupcakes on top. | ||
| Starting to get mad. | ||
| That's somebody else's. | ||
| I'll go to break. | ||
| That's not the poll. | ||
| Let me show you the poll. | ||
| Elon Musk poll. | ||
| Don't get mad at the crew. | ||
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Just take it down. | |
| Here, I'll show you. | ||
| I'll log into my Twitter again. | ||
| His name's Elon Musk. | ||
| He bought Twitter, changed the name to X. Oh boy. | ||
| Starting to feel passive and passive. | ||
| Right here. | ||
| This is Elon Musk. | ||
| This is the... | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| Let me just show you what I want. | ||
| This is what I want right here. | ||
| Seems frustrated. | ||
| It's Elon Musk. | ||
| At Elon Musk on Twitter. | ||
| That's where you go. | ||
| He's the guy that owns it. | ||
| And then you go to his Twitter account. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And you pull up the poll that's all over the news that they've launched. | ||
| And you show it. | ||
| Should Twitter offer a general amnesty to suspended accounts? | ||
| And it's got 3 million plus votes. | ||
| So he's done the poll, but I was given this 30 minutes before I went on air. | ||
| I didn't look at it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, there's a screenshot of it. | ||
| I'd like to get... | ||
| Oh, it's from November. | ||
| That's how I got confused. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| So we had none again. | ||
| No, hey. | ||
| I'm up here flying by the seat of my pants. | ||
| You could feel him getting so mad. | ||
|
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Oh, man. | |
| He was ready. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was ready to blow. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| He was ready for that gasket. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| If he had not gotten... | ||
| If there wasn't this larger audience from Tucker, he would have fucking left. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| And you can tell. | ||
| I'm going to take a break here for a minute. | ||
| Because I forgot to eat breakfast this morning. | ||
| I got to run out there and eat some yogurt or a couple strawberries or something. | ||
| Cocaine. | ||
| Because I'm getting a little... | ||
|
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Hangry. | |
| As they say. | ||
| But I'll go to your phone calls right after these clips. | ||
| Let's play clip six. | ||
| Yeah, so he goes to pull some clips. | ||
| Like, any other day, that would have turned into, like, I'm out of here, I'm never coming back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was all of the mannerisms, the prompts, everything. | ||
| That is a, I quit. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| So we got hangry. | ||
| What would it be? | ||
| Hunger competence? | ||
| What would be the way? | ||
| I'm incompetent. | ||
| I'm incompetent. | ||
| Yeah, I'm incompetent. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I would love to be able to do something for you right now, but I'm too hungry to find this poll or whatever it is. | ||
| But it doesn't exist at this point. | ||
| Well, it did in November. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The past one. | ||
| Alex thinks that there's a live one going on that he can report on on air. | ||
| Well, you're not yourself when you're hungry. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Get a Snickers. | ||
| This is not sponsored. | ||
| This is not sponsored. | ||
| So Alex comes back after they play some clips. | ||
| Presumably he got a snack in him. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And now he wants to talk about more prophetic dreams. | ||
| Sure is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're born into this fantastic universal consciousness. | ||
| Able to interface with the eternal in God. | ||
| What are these stupid politicians with their big marble buildings trying to act powerful? | ||
| They're a joke. | ||
| Reach out to God. | ||
| On behalf of Marvel, what did we do? | ||
| God's real. | ||
| And I have a lot of these dreams that have come true. | ||
| Dreams I haven't wrote down. | ||
| You know, dreams that were amazing. | ||
| And some were good, some were bad. | ||
| I mean, I've told this story many times, and we'll go back to Thomas and finish this story. | ||
| I looked older than I was, and I wasn't a drug guy, but I was an alcohol guy. | ||
| And so even the 16-year-olds when I was like 14, you know, they're my friends, but they'd come get me because I would go into the liquor store and for whatever reason they would sell liquor to me and not to them. | ||
| And so we'd drive into Dallas because there weren't even liquor stores where I lived. | ||
| It was a dry county outside Dallas. | ||
| We'd drive in the county right next to Dallas into Dallas. | ||
| We'd drive into the worst neighborhood, and I probably did this 100 times or more. | ||
| And, you know, your kids, you don't have a lot of money, so you want it ever clear in Milwaukee's Best or whatever for a party, you know, high school girls or whatever. | ||
| I had a dream that I woke up all sweaty from where I'm getting beer and a guy comes out and pulls a knife on me and whatever and he has a purple and polo shirt. | ||
| It was a white crackhead. | ||
| A purple and green striped polo shirt. | ||
| And I remember in the dream I was like in an alley behind a building and I had the beer. | ||
| For whatever reason, we'd pulled in behind it. | ||
| And sure enough, I walk around. | ||
| The guy tries to mug me. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| I defend myself. | ||
| And I think it was God warning me so when I saw the guy was ready and was able to not have him, you know, stab me and was able to get out of there with the beer and the Everclear. | ||
| Good. | ||
| That's important to God. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, that's really important to God. | ||
| So I had a lot of those. | ||
| I don't really have those now. | ||
| Instead, I just get downloads of information. | ||
| That shows you, like in The Matrix, where they see the black cat, it disappears like a glitch in The Matrix. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| God is big on underage drinking. | ||
| God is huge on underage drinking. | ||
| You know what he hates? | ||
| Following the rules. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not a fan. | ||
| Well, you know. | ||
| You gotta get something to give the ladies or something. | ||
| I do appreciate that God is like, hey, listen, you gotta get teens drunk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obviously, how else is Alex gonna have sex? | ||
| And Alex is my guy, so I need Alex. | ||
| To make sure teenage girls are drunk in his presence. | ||
| This is part of his journey. | ||
| I am God. | ||
| This is part of his path towards conquering the devil. | ||
| I'm going to give him more visions and make sure that he gets home to have sex with those underage teenage girls drunkenly, I'm sure with their consent. | ||
| Now here's what I'm thinking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Purple and green? | ||
| Is this the Joker? | ||
|
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You think there's a chance that Alex Oles got mugged by the Joker? | |
| He tried to put this playing card in my pocket right before I... | ||
| It was so crazy. | ||
| He was like, this is my calling. | ||
| I was odd. | ||
| I just had to get out of there. | ||
| He had a knife, but also a giant oversized mallet. | ||
| He was going... | ||
| He told me to come in close and I was going to smell his flower, and then instead of it hitting me with water, it hit me with a terrible gas! | ||
| And it gave me a prophetic vision! | ||
| I can see the future! | ||
| Yeah, I think it might have been the Joker. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| So Alex does go to calls, and the first call that he gets also is from a guy who has prophetic dreams. | ||
| Great. | ||
|
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Like I've had dreams of submarines showing up on the coast of the United States. | |
| Also, I've got to say, just off the bat, fantastic phone line. | ||
| Probably one of the best phone lines I've ever heard on this show. | ||
| It's a really great tone quality. | ||
|
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Missiles into buildings. | |
| I don't want that to happen, God forbid, but... | ||
| I think it's like a subconscious collective fear that, you know, we're being invaded and, you know, we could have an invasion like that with such weak leadership in our country. | ||
| But I also, you know, have dreams of passed away loved ones that come and visit me and I have vivid, in-depth conversations with them. | ||
| And they're giving me, you know, instructions in life on how to, you know... | ||
| Carry on and carry on legacies, and it's just so profound, and I just give it all up to God that we're able to have that kind of extra sensory perception. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I didn't talk about those. | ||
| I've had those as well. | ||
| I've had those, too. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I've had those, too. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There's just never going to be a high enough percentage of people who believe that dreams aren't real. | ||
| I think that Alex felt one-upped. | ||
| Of course he did. | ||
| There. | ||
| He got Dream... | ||
| He got Dream... | ||
| Profi... | ||
| Psi... | ||
| Attacked, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And to the other point of the guy's call about having these dreams about nuclear subs and stuff like that, I don't know if that is a prophetic dream or any kind of, like, united consciousness or something. | ||
| I think it might just be the kind of media that you take in getting into your subconscious, and you feel... | ||
| Like, you have all these people who obsess about this shit all the time that has become part of what your fantasies are. | ||
| I think that might be a more concrete version. | ||
| So you're saying it might be self-reinforcing? | ||
| In terms of your loved ones, it's probably a manifestation of how much you miss these people. | ||
| No, that doesn't sound right. | ||
| No, it's probably their ghosts. | ||
| Very important people in my life that I left an indelible... | ||
| That I'll never be able to divorce myself from? | ||
| No, it's probably ghosts. | ||
| What about people who are still alive who appear to you in your dreams that maybe you've lost touch with? | ||
| Ghost people. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Alex comes back from break rambling over a little bit of music. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's always good. | ||
| Yeah, it's not great. | ||
| We didn't get a You Belong to the City on this episode, which I could have used. | ||
| If you really wanted to show people what he's got. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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You get that millions of people tuning in from Tucker. | |
| Carey okay. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You can taste it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
| No, this is just a weak imitation. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
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It's Alex Jones. | |
| dialing in to eternity. | ||
| And what we do in this life projects the pattern of the future levels we're about to travel. | ||
| And the adventures, my friends, your eye has not seen, your ear has not heard, your mouth has not tasted what God has in store for us. | ||
| Bible says that, but I've been shown the third heaven. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| The 12th dimension. | ||
| I could not even tell you what I saw. | ||
| Because there's no words to describe it. | ||
| It's convenient. | ||
| But God is real. | ||
| It does help. | ||
| And the angels were there. | ||
| What do they look like? | ||
| Oh, I can't describe it. | ||
| Sorry, forgot about the whole words thing. | ||
|
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All right, let's go to your phone calls. | |
| Wow! | ||
|
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Wow! | |
| That sucked. | ||
| That sucked. | ||
| That was almost heartbreaking. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Kind of felt like it gave up a little bit on his rant. | ||
|
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It did! | |
| It did! | ||
| And then he listened to the song and he was like, maybe I'll find it again. | ||
|
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And he didn't. | |
| And he's just like, fuck it, I'll just go back. | ||
| I give up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's dark. | ||
| Well, where do you go after you've been like, I've communed with angels, I can't explain it. | ||
| Well, you can't explain it! | ||
| You did walk yourself down that cul-de-sac. | ||
| I did not take you there. | ||
| No. | ||
| But he does not really want to go to calls. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| And so, oh boy. | ||
| This is one of the more insane clips I've heard from Alex. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| I really think he was swinging for the fences a little bit. | ||
| Maybe the increased audience helped. | ||
| Maybe he got that snack in him, and he feels grounded. | ||
| But this was, like, legit nuts. | ||
| Let me tell you a little secret here. | ||
| It's not a secret, but what they teach in the mainline Christian church is, you go to heaven, skip the break, coming up, we'll get all the calls, and you float around in a cloud and play a harp. | ||
| No, sir. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| That would be stupid. | ||
| Satan took one-third of the angels, rebelled against God. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And that's just in this sector. | ||
| Christ said, I have many flocks in Israel, in Judea. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| This ain't the only rodeo, folks. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| Are you talking about intergalactic? | ||
| This is not the only rodeo. | ||
| Jesus? | ||
| And basically, Hollywood shows you this, but creates an archetype. | ||
| Oh, we'll have world government. | ||
| And all this unity and the Starfleet with the UN symbol. | ||
| I'm not a track guy. | ||
| You're in Starfleet and all this stuff. | ||
| Oh, you're going to be in Starfleet, all right. | ||
| But the point is that you're going to go up to heaven. | ||
| You can always go for R&R and be with God and just be in total bliss. | ||
| What? | ||
| But God knows you're not going to do that. | ||
| What? | ||
| You're going to sign up for the next mission. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
|
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No. | |
| That's all I'm trying to explain to you, that is. | ||
| Just know. | ||
| This is a test, ladies and gentlemen, before we go in and save a lot of spirits, a lot of entities, a lot of creatures. | ||
| I'm sorry, wait, what? | ||
| We're being recruited to go to the next level in a long-term intergalactic war. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I read this in a book. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| I've been shooting. | ||
| This is a fucking guest on Project Camelot level stuff. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, now we have graduated from full on. | ||
| Every single aspect of this life we exist in now is only to test us as to whether or not we will be a useful soldier in the coming eternal war. | ||
| Intergalactic creature war. | ||
| Making this fucking goosebumps novel. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| This is stupid. | ||
| So now Alex's belief system is that... | ||
| How does this tie to the globalists? | ||
| I mean, first of all, they're trying to make us fail the test or something so we won't be good enough soldiers and have to go to hell. | ||
| So in the late 90s, there was this game series called Wing Commander. | ||
| And you would be... | ||
| It was like a computer game PC. | ||
| You'd fly a ship and you'd like... | ||
| You know, shoot other ships. | ||
| Pew, pew, pew. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And I think one of the guys was a lion for some reason. | ||
| Because there's space. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So lion people exist in space, I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's basically that. | ||
| So it's... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Running around, flying, shooting. | ||
| Pew, pew, pew. | ||
| Lion. | ||
| And there's some lion people. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, then I'm back on board. | ||
|
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So... | |
| Apparently, there's a bunch of aliens. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Out there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And God is also... | ||
| Not his first flock? | ||
| No! | ||
| Jesus died for the reptilians. | ||
| I have a question now. | ||
| Jesus died for the mantid beings. | ||
| See, now you've opened up a whole new world of questions. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Time-wise, is it simultaneous? | ||
| Time is an illusion. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| But humans first? | ||
| Are humans first? | ||
| Did the reptiles figure it out first? | ||
| Are they the front... | ||
| Are they the, like... | ||
| Foot soldiers? | ||
| No. | ||
| What do I have to do to get to what rank in the next? | ||
| It doesn't matter, because here's what time... | ||
| Non-starter. | ||
|
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Fine. | |
| Non-issue. | ||
| Time is non-issue. | ||
| Because what is going on at all times simultaneously is that the devil has taken the angels and they are a rogue force. | ||
| They're a rogue force. | ||
| And when we die, we will join the other aliens that accepted Jesus and we will be like Star Trek except violent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where? | ||
| What? | ||
| Physically. | ||
| In what space? | ||
| In where will we inhabit? | ||
| It's so far beyond this that you can't even put it into words. | ||
| That there's no point even just making the hand motion. | ||
| The hand motion isn't even enough. | ||
| Physical space is not what this is about. | ||
| Then why are we fighting? | ||
| What? | ||
| I mean, why are we fighting if there's no physical, there's no resources, there's no territory? | ||
| There isn't there. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So why are they fighting there? | ||
| Because the devil took a bunch of angels and they're rebelling against God. | ||
| And so we need to help God win that battle. | ||
| And so here's the thing. | ||
| On Earth... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Sometimes, you know... | ||
| On Earth, we have to fight against reproductive health care access because... | ||
| That's limiting the number of recruits and soldiers and what have you. | ||
| We need to fight against all sorts of other things that would offend a Christian theocracy. | ||
| Because that's stopping other people from living up to their potential, which would be to be a great recruit for this army in the next life. | ||
| Okay, so what happens, though, if you find out that the lizard people... | ||
| Because the lizard people give birth to 30 at a time or whatever. | ||
| You don't know that. | ||
| I don't know that, but I'm going to throw that out there. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Lizard snake people give birth to 30 lizard snake people at a time. | ||
| That's now established. | ||
| Is abortion super against the rules or less so because you've got so many? | ||
| I think it probably is just a matter of principle. | ||
| Furthermore, let me throw this out at you. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| All right. | ||
| If you're Alex, and you're thinking about the Great Replacement Theory, my first worry, are all these reptilian people going to take my spot in front of God? | ||
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All are equal in front of God? | |
| So you need not worry about that. | ||
| Then why not here? | ||
| Well, because this is a test. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| This is dumb. | ||
|
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This is... | |
| This is a convoluted, sci-fi-esque, Project Camelot-level worldview that Alex teases out in little pieces. | ||
| But this is not a formulation that I think I've heard him express before. | ||
| I have not heard it in this exact... | ||
| I definitely have heard him say that, like, you know, you don't go up and sit on a cloud. | ||
| Yeah, components of this have been available. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But in a full... | ||
| But the notion that behind all of his ideology is we need to... | ||
| Die wholly, and whatever, and pass this test on Earth, because that will allow us to be good recruits for the battle that is the next life. | ||
| So we can die there. | ||
| And save other creatures. | ||
| And then they'll die, and then everything will die. | ||
| But maybe there's a whole other level above that. | ||
| Well, and then it's turtles all the way down. | ||
| It's just going up instead. | ||
| It very well could be turtles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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So... | |
| We did it. | ||
| It takes... | ||
| We take a turn. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| And I'm going to skip this because I don't really care. | ||
| But a caller calls in who's involved with Community Notes on Twitter. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he helps Alex evade Community Notes. | ||
| He's like, if you use... | ||
| Sponsored posts, that's way harder to community note. | ||
| If you phrase things as a question or an opinion, way harder to put community notes on. | ||
| They're already working around ways to not have corrections posted to Alex's insanely wrong things that he posts. | ||
| So that's fun. | ||
| But, you know, also... | ||
| Alex doesn't report on himself. | ||
| We heard him talk about himself. | ||
| Actually, that's one of the things that they should probably do more, is report more on the goings-on of Infowars. | ||
| Right, and the petty dramas. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I gotta go to break. | ||
| I'll hit this one, come back, and go to your calls. | ||
| Alex Jones might be making a comeback. | ||
| Am I making a comeback? | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| That's Newsweek. | ||
| We'll hit that when we come back. | ||
| And then Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones crack up, recalling prank phone call. | ||
| To ex-CNN host Brian Stelter. | ||
| We did prank call him. | ||
| We did video it. | ||
| And I've decided to release it next week. | ||
| And I did make a joke to Brian. | ||
| I said, I want to marry him. | ||
| And Brian was very excited, actually. | ||
| Tucker made that. | ||
| I mean, I'm serious. | ||
| So, I was joking, folks. | ||
| I don't want to marry Brian Stelter. | ||
| We'd had a few drinks. | ||
| Tucker wasn't drinking, but we had some steaks. | ||
| The rest of his crew was drinking. | ||
| He goes, let's go down to the river, you know, the dark with flashlights. | ||
| And they go, hey, Brian Stelter keeps calling me. | ||
| And I said, well, let's call him. | ||
| So we called him. | ||
| And I had a few drinks. | ||
| So I had a little bit of fun. | ||
| It's pretty stupid. | ||
| Yeah, it is pretty stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I do like that there's range to this man. | ||
| He can tell you about the extra-dimensional battles you're going to be facing in the next life and all this. | ||
| And also, at the same time, drunkenly prank call Brian Stelter and try and sort of subtly imply that he's gay. | ||
| Yeah, it contains multitudes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Boy. | ||
| That's so sad. | ||
| It is. | ||
| That is so sad. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| To be so pathetically afraid of yourself that you can't even just be like, you have to fight for so long to be like, hey, listen, no, no. | ||
| I know I have made several thousand homophobic jokes about me and Stelter in the past, but I need to really hammer it home in case you did not know. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| I am not a gay person who is gay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, Jesus Christ, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's pathetic. | ||
| It's such a fear of being seen a certain way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's very weak. | ||
| But, another thing that I think is really fascinating about this is, I don't know if anybody was like, you didn't actually prank call Stelter. | ||
| I think most people probably believed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's not really a prank call. | ||
| They called the person whose number they had. | ||
| Yeah, while drunk. | ||
| In collegial situations. | ||
| Yeah, two 50-year-old men drunkenly prank called a guy. | ||
| That's not a prank call! | ||
| That is not a prank call. | ||
| You called a person you know with your name. | ||
| And then just started acting weird. | ||
| And then acted like an asshole to them. | ||
| That is not a prank call. | ||
| That is not you created a scenario wherein this person behaved in a normal way and then were faced with unusual circumstances. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is you called and were like, hey, what if I sucked your balls? | ||
| And then hung up. | ||
| That's not a prank call. | ||
| You're a dick. | ||
| You are no cranky anchor, sir. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You're just an asshole. | ||
| So anyway, Alex talks over some more music here in this next clip. | ||
| And again, when you talk about containing multitudes, this clip is it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Get your motor running. | |
| Head out on the highway. | ||
| Looking for adventure. | ||
| And whatever comes our way. | ||
| Yeah, I got to go make it happen. | ||
| Take the world in a loving place. | ||
| Fire all of your guns at once and explode into space. | ||
| I love smoking lightning. | ||
| Every man will find out. | ||
| Then once you're locked into 15-minute cities eating bugs. | ||
| Oh, the left's so much fun. | ||
| Till they get you where they want you. | ||
| And then you're in a cage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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We're going to break out of this prison planet. | |
| We're going interstellar. | ||
| Nobody's going to stop us. | ||
| We got God on our side. | ||
| We were put here as a launch pad, baby. | ||
| I can tell you. | ||
| I've been up there with the high command. | ||
| I've seen it. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| Get ready, folks. | ||
| Join us now. | ||
| Shine up to go to far away, incredible locations. | ||
| Like the one you're on right now. | ||
| Could it be any cooler? | ||
| Dangerous. | ||
| But real as hell. | ||
| You meet a woman, you're passionate, you marry your children? | ||
| A merger of you and her? | ||
| I mean, it just gets cooler by the second. | ||
| It's all fantastic. | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh, my new Netflix show, you know, hasn't come out. | ||
| I'm depressed. | ||
| The world's so boring. | ||
| Wait, what just happened? | ||
| You ain't opened your eyes up. | ||
| It ain't opened your soul up. | ||
| All right, I want to go back to your phone calls, but I've just got to hit the circles. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| And, you know, I've been talking to a lot of people. | ||
| I probably had three people today. | ||
| And three or four yesterday and a bunch in the last week say, Jones used to be funny. | ||
| You've gotten so serious over the years that it's a bummer. | ||
| Can you be funny again? | ||
| The crew was telling me that last week when I was doing the English accent for like an hour straight. | ||
| And so, yes, I'm going to try to be more funny here. | ||
| So we're going to dredge up old funny things we've done, but also do new funny things. | ||
| So we have Fartgate. | ||
| Before Jay Dyer takes over, after I take your calls, you want it, you got it. | ||
| It's a major scandal. | ||
| Fart game. | ||
| It doesn't just end or start with John Kerry blasting off at the COP28 event. | ||
| Oh, it gets more serious. | ||
| Yeah, apparently John Kerry farted. | ||
| He starts that clip rambling overboard to be wild about going to space. | ||
| Like, I've been there with the generals and God and the angels. | ||
| Within two minutes, he's talking about John Kerry farting. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| You know, it does... | ||
| There are some things that this show does bring, and that's like... | ||
| I don't, you know, I don't casually listen to Born to be Wild. | ||
| It's a song that exists without my participation. | ||
| I think it got played out on, like, radio when we were young. | ||
| We came from a time when you couldn't control what you were listening to. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And so the radio, you heard some songs a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like Boston, I heard way too many times. | ||
| I never need to hear it again. | ||
|
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Never. | |
| But, because of that, if you randomly hear it, sometimes... | ||
| Man, that bridge! | ||
|
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That bridge! | |
| Like a true nature! | ||
| That's so good! | ||
| That is so good! | ||
| Such a good bridge. | ||
| You forget. | ||
| You do. | ||
| Some of that's pretty good. | ||
| You do. | ||
| Because you saw it too much. | ||
| There's a reason it was there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's a reason it made it there. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there's so many things that when you think back on it, you're like, it's probably a good thing that that wasn't in that space. | ||
| Because if Born to be Wild, I have heard that not of my own volition so many times, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I can still enjoy it. | ||
| You don't think that would be the case if it was like Incense and Peppermints by the Strawberry Alarm Clock? | ||
| Yeah, if there was a bunch of songs that I think are really, really good, but not infinite songs, not forever songs, to the point where you would hate them. | ||
| I imagine so much shit. | ||
| Like Incense and Peppermints? | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| That for sure. | ||
| Not sure why that's the only song I can think of now. | ||
| That's so strange. | ||
| So, this is where I would have liked to end the episode. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| Because there's a good, funny thing. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| Alex has made his weird, interstellar bullshit clear to the listeners and then got into Fartgate. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Whimsy. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| But unfortunately, Alex gets a call. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And it's from a lady, and this is a seven-minute clip. | ||
| And it's because I wanted the entire call. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because this made me so fucking uncomfortable that I feel like if I don't bring this up and we don't talk about this, I feel like we would be remiss. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so we can pause at points if we need to, but here is one of the most uncomfortable calls I've ever heard. | ||
| I mean, it's all these calls. | ||
| I'm going to stop preaching. | ||
| Cindy in South Carolina. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hey, Alex, thanks for taking my call. | |
| I'm going to, I guess, represent the potential atheists or people that have different faiths or non-faiths, but I've, for whatever reason, maybe the Tucker Carlson thing last night, but I was told by a friend today is the day to call, and after three years, I finally got through. | ||
| I have a story that I should have told three years ago. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| In November of 2019, I have a friend who is a private chef, a very high-end private chef out of Charleston. | ||
| This person gets hired by politicians and royalty. | ||
| This person was employed at that time in the Netherlands, feeding a large contingency of people who are politicians and royalty, including their children. | ||
| Why are you talking weird? | ||
| They were offered a shot, and they believed it to be a flu shot initially, but it wasn't. | ||
| As the night went on, everybody was being inoculated with a virus that was to come, an unnamed virus that was not the flu. | ||
| And I've known that I should have told that story for whatever reason. | ||
| Maybe it'll result in someone else telling a story, but that's my story, and that's the end of it. | ||
| Well, I mean, you sound credible. | ||
| I don't know what you're saying. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I'm not saying you're lying, but it came out in London Guardian about 15 years ago, and there's Spiegel about 12 years ago, memory serves. | ||
| Quote, elites get special secret vaccines. | ||
| They get, quote, clean vaccines. | ||
| And yeah, whatever they're about to release on us or already have, they've already been given the protection. | ||
| That's why they caught Netanyahu and a bunch of them acting like they gave them the shots. | ||
| And it also happened with, oh, who's the guy that installs the lambs? | ||
| What's that British actor's name? | ||
| Anthony Hopkins. | ||
| He got caught. | ||
| It was totally fake. | ||
| So yeah, they've already... | ||
| Wait, Sirens of the Lambs? | ||
| You get taken care of. | ||
| What else did they say about this? | ||
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That was it. | |
| It went on for hours. | ||
| It was a huge amount of people, including children, and they were offered it and declined because it seemed like a wise thing to decline. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Special magic vaccine? | ||
| No, I'll take that. | ||
| Yes, please. | ||
|
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It was a private event of 2019. | |
| Well, you say, Cindy, you don't believe in God. | ||
| You've never been touched by God, Cindy? | ||
|
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No. | |
| So we're going to pause it right there for a second. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| We have a call that is revealing presumably connection to inside information about a bunch of elites for hours vaccinating people against a coming disease in the end of 2019 in the Netherlands. | ||
| We can assume it's COVID. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| She's very nervous and doesn't want to continue this call any further. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And Alex immediately is like... | ||
| Why you fucking say you're an atheist? | ||
| You ever been touched by God? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that is uncomfortable. | ||
| See, I just don't... | ||
| This is... | ||
| I don't understand people. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| I don't understand people. | ||
| If you're a private chef, and you're chefing for the richest blah blah blah politicians or whatever, and they're giving out a secret special vaccine, you take the vaccine! | ||
| That's the good shit! | ||
| That's the shit that you and I don't get, Dan. | ||
| We don't get the private chef vaccine. | ||
| We're not good enough chefs. | ||
| No, you take that vaccine. | ||
| Any story where they're like, no, I don't think that's a smart thing to take. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| You're lying to me. | ||
| There are a number of sort of weird details in this story that make me think, I don't know about this. | ||
| But I feel for this person because they are relaying something that presumably they think is... | ||
| They do feel genuine. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And also, you know, you're calling in. | ||
| There's... | ||
| As Alex tells you, millions of people listening. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| Not quite that. | ||
| Devil. | ||
| You have, like, a discomfort being on the phone, and then Alex bum-rushes you with this, why are you an atheist shit? | ||
|
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Here we go. | |
| Not like that you might traditionally say, but I just knew I was supposed to, you know, today was the day I got through to tell you this story, and I'm going to go because it's crazy. | ||
| No, don't go, Cindy. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| Have you ever been outdoors at night by yourself when the stars are out? | ||
| Timelessness. | ||
| You ever felt that? | ||
| Are you following me? | ||
|
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Yeah, of course. | |
| Well, Cindy, God's real, but God is about free will, not some fake church. | ||
| I don't blame you for rejecting the church. | ||
| It's there to make you reject it. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And so I understand rejecting the establishment. | ||
| That's the system. | ||
| That's the priesthood. | ||
| But God's real. | ||
| If you will just pray privately or with me right now for God to touch you and ask God to come into your life and show you things. | ||
| In my experience, God will show you things to show you how God's real. | ||
| You might get a visit by an actual angel, or you might be told, walk outside, there's about to be a car wreck. | ||
| It's 3.42. | ||
| That's the kind of stuff God does. | ||
| Would you like to know if that's real? | ||
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I respect that, but... | |
| But there's a block. | ||
| Hold on, hold on, Cindy. | ||
| There's a block there, though. | ||
| I'm saying, what do you have to lose? | ||
| See, God will not do this if you don't ask for it. | ||
| You have to say... | ||
| I have free will, governance over my soul. | ||
| I'm asking God to show God to me. | ||
| You don't want to see if that's real. | ||
| Come out, God! | ||
| I commend it! | ||
|
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That's a big... | |
| For somebody that was scared enough to tell this story... | ||
| Well, you know there's evil out there. | ||
| I'm asking you, what do you have to lose if it's all a made-up thing? | ||
| Why would you not want to say, God of your real show me? | ||
| Leave her alone. | ||
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Alright, I'll think about it. | |
| See, deep down, you know what's on the other side. | ||
| This is a bad touch! | ||
| This is the real universe. | ||
| No means no! | ||
| What do you want? | ||
| Beyond stars, beyond everything you see, it's already so fantastical. | ||
| This is just nothing compared to it. | ||
| You have to say, show me. | ||
| I need an adult! | ||
| Because God isn't like the devil that attacks you without permission. | ||
| God wants you to open the door. | ||
| The devil asks permission from God, though. | ||
| So God is actually more like the devil than the devil is in your conception. | ||
| Because I'm an imperfect vessel and I've got to get prepared for that so I can take it on. | ||
| I'm telling you, I'm not asking you to even ask God into your heart. | ||
| But would you ask God to show you the miraculous? | ||
| Because God won't do it. | ||
| But don't come nowhere near me, God. | ||
|
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I just hope that you're open to those of us that aren't. | |
| That we know, we understand truth when we hear it, but we may not... | ||
| Feel the same way, faith-wise, as a lot of your followers. | ||
| But I'm not asking you about me or my followers. | ||
| This is fucked up. | ||
| This is legitimately fucked up. | ||
| I feel really uncomfortable right now. | ||
| I've been in this conversation a lot. | ||
| If you're real, show yourself to me. | ||
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I don't know if I'm scared. | |
| I think it's just something I've got to do in private and think about. | ||
| I just don't trust you, you creepy fucking weirdo. | ||
| This is a big journey. | ||
| This is a big step. | ||
| And I want you to experience it. | ||
| And I know that if you simply say, God the Creator, the God of life, show me, God will show you. | ||
| You will see it. | ||
| And then you'll have to make a choice on whether you want to reject the Holy Spirit. | ||
|
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I know there's a bigger power. | |
| I know that. | ||
| That's all I'm sure of. | ||
| But I don't know what it is. | ||
| But that higher power... | ||
| Well, we're finite. | ||
| We can only see God's backside, basically, like Moses. | ||
| But what I'm telling you is, you need to then, in my opinion, say, God, show me. | ||
| Because God will not push you around. | ||
| I will. | ||
| I mean, absurdly, I will push you. | ||
| Because you have free will, Cindy. | ||
| That's why God won't mess with your free will. | ||
| Do you understand that? | ||
| That's why whenever you give me an answer that I don't like, I force you to keep going. | ||
| Directly intervene in your life unless you ask God to. | ||
| I appreciate your call. | ||
| That's a decision for you to make. | ||
| I would suggest you launch yourself into a wider world right now, Cindy. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That is grotesque. | ||
| That's unacceptable shit. | ||
| I want to take you back to the beginning of this call really fast. | ||
| I mean, it's all these calls. | ||
| I'm going to stop preaching. | ||
| So, there we go. | ||
| I'm going to stop preaching, and then for seven minutes I'm going to berate this woman because she's not playing along with my come-to-Jesus nonsense. | ||
| Like, have a little bit of... | ||
| I think he thought that was going to go better than it did. | ||
| I mean, that's one of the weirder things. | ||
| Because it is a conversation that I've, like, intimately felt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, that was... | ||
| I fucking went to God camp multiple times. | ||
| I've had that conversation. | ||
| I think that there's a decent chance that I was on Alex's side of that conversation at that time when I was going to those God camps and shit. | ||
| Yeah, I was, uh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| But that, you know, that idea, whenever you're outside watching, if I'm God, and I'm looking at this, I'm looking at my representative here having a customer service call. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm hearing him say, I'm hearing him promise I'm going to make FaceTime appearances without a guarantee of a sale. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| I heard if you ask God to show up, God will show up. | ||
| You don't even have to ask him into your heart. | ||
| No commitment necessary? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Not how I work, son. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| See, it's not a customer service call as much as it is a hard sell. | ||
| That's what Alex is doing. | ||
| He's doing a hard sell. | ||
| You've got to assume everybody's already a customer. | ||
| Otherwise, you're making a bad say. | ||
| I mean, it's just... | ||
| There's a disrespect that is going on. | ||
| And one of the reasons that I find this to be so off-putting is that she was very clear how uncomfortable she was. | ||
| Up front. | ||
| And she had said that she wanted to hang up the call before Alex even jumped into this stuff. | ||
| This is exploitative of somebody that you know is probably... | ||
| He thought she was going to be more malleable than she was. | ||
| But she stood up for herself decently well. | ||
| She... | ||
| Is she, as far as that is concerned, like, the reason that a person starts like this... | ||
| I'm putting up boundaries. | ||
| It's because that is a person who is used to having their boundaries ignored. | ||
| And Alex probably can sense that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And decides to launch into trying to push past boundaries. | ||
| That she fought as far and as long and as successfully as she did, really, is good. | ||
| I mean, if I were her therapist, I would be like, congratulations, you didn't cry even though you really wanted to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this... | ||
| I would think... | ||
| That if I were somebody who saw that Alex was on Tucker, and then I jumped over and was like, I'll check this guy out, the interview with Owen maybe would have kept me around and been like, this is interesting, I should look into this more, or something. | ||
| If I'm a sane person, after that point, everything else would have been a deal breaker. | ||
| Everything else would have been like, oh no. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I see what's going on here. | ||
| This is a lunatic. | ||
| I need to get away from this. | ||
| And I don't understand how anybody could have any other perspective, quite frankly. | ||
| Unless you are sincerely somebody who is on the same page as Alex, and you believe that God is enlisting us for a cosmic war against the devil and the renegade angels and all this other stuff, and Alex has been chosen by God over chicken fried steak to be the leader of his forces against the devil here on Earth. | ||
| Unless you already believe that stuff, I can't imagine tuning into this and thinking like, wow, Alex pulled a fast one on Tucker getting that interview, huh? | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Sure is lucky for Alex that Tucker himself doesn't listen to Alex's show. | ||
| I mean, what I find just so incredible, what boggles my mind, and because this is going to be true, I don't even want to pretend that there's a time to wait to figure it out. | ||
| How none of that, how Tucker sent so many people to Alex, they listened to that, and then none of that's going to blow back on Tucker. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| No one's going to just be like, hey, the end. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For you, because I just listened to a man, I avenge a rape woman over the phone for seven minutes, and it's fucking insane! | ||
| This is the kind of show that you're promoting. | ||
| And to the point, I don't believe that Tucker listens to Alex's show. | ||
| And I don't believe that most people who promote Alex's show listen to his show. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| But they are responsible for the content that they are promoting nonetheless. | ||
| That's how I feel! | ||
| Because... | ||
| This is what they're saying is prophetic. | ||
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Yes! | |
| This is what they're saying has some kind of a greater batting average or relevance than the news. | ||
| Like, it's ridiculous. | ||
| Come off that shit. | ||
| I feel responsible for recommending Blue-Eyed Samurai, and if people don't like it, I'm like, damn, I feel... | ||
| Because it's fucking great! | ||
| I feel weird about the Haribo. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It happens! | ||
| Anyway, this show is bad. | ||
| It was. | ||
| But it is interesting to me. | ||
| I don't know if we'll ever be able to quantify it in any way, but I do wonder what the percentage of people who could have come from Tucker over to this and been like, is there a retention rate issue? | ||
| I can't imagine that the retention was high. | ||
| But again... | ||
| This is the strategy that people like Alex use, which is the, we'll get a million people in the door, and a hundred of them will become new customers, and that'll be really huge. | ||
| So, maybe it's not a success, even if you run away almost everybody with your extreme religious nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, that is like the one thing about, like, oh, simulation, I don't care. | ||
| But if it was... | ||
| That's the type of information that I would be so interested in, is that minute, person-to-person, what was it like to exist through this, through your eyes? | ||
| Yeah, what was it like for this to be your first episode of Alex's show after Tucker recommended it to you? | ||
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Totally. | |
| Let's imagine that you are some normal-ass Fox viewer who followed Tucker to Twitter show, and then you were like, I'll check out this. | ||
| Interesting young man that predicts stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you were sold. | ||
| That's what you were sold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you're listening, it's not like you're already doing the best job of listening comprehension if you're already on Tucker's show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's, I mean, I don't know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's nuts. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| We'll never know. | ||
| We won't. | ||
| Unless we get recruited by the next one. | ||
| And then we're in the information core. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| The next life. | ||
| If the next life has anyone like Alex Jones in it, I am fucking gonna kill myself. | ||
| It won't be worth being around. | ||
| It won't. | ||
| No. | ||
| It is so fascinating. | ||
| It is not an ideal... | ||
| End state. | ||
| If Alex is still there. | ||
| It is so fascinating to me that Alex has 100% made religion so much easier. | ||
| You know, like, anything with an Alex afterwards, I'm gonna get it. | ||
| It could be real. | ||
| If God is real and he says that Alex is coming with him, no mas. | ||
| No thank you! | ||
| Alex becomes the, um... | ||
| Even extending past death, Mendoza line. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| No more. | ||
| So we come to the end of this trash show. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And seeing as we've been recording this that apparently Alex Jones did a Twitter Spaces with Elon Musk and Vivek and some other folks, so maybe we'll cover that on the next episode. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I dread this, but it is our new reality. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| But not for long. | ||
| But not for long. | ||
| Probably not for long. | ||
| Not for long. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| Boo-boo-boo-boo. | ||
| I'm Neil. | ||
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I'm Neil. | |
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
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Boo-boo-boo-boo. | |
| Woo-yeah! | ||
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Woo-yeah! | |
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |