In this installment, Dan and Jordan try to find something fun to talk about with Alex out of the studio, following his outburst last week. They decide to check in on the time back in 2013 when Alex chatted with Howard Stern, which is about as productive a chat as you imagine.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight. | |
| I need, I need money. | ||
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I need money. | |
| Andean Kansas. | ||
| Andean Kansas. | ||
| Andean. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andean Kansas. | ||
| Andean Kansas. | ||
| Time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your word. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Knowledge Fight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
|
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
|
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's your bright spot, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is it is finally time to announce the book project, the home of this and forthcoming deconstructive project. | ||
| I don't want to tease too much, but obviously Alex has another book that has just come out, The Great Awakening, that will need to be dealt with. | ||
| I told you, I told myself, and I told the audience that we would never cover Reset Wars, and I've decided to go back on that promise. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| There will be coverage of Reset Wars at this website. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And that website, Jordan. | ||
| A lot of people have bought us fun URLs over the years. | ||
| There's, of course, fillyourhand.com was, I think, the first of the... | ||
| I think so, too, yeah. | ||
| But there have been a number of great URLs that redirect to knowledgefight.com, and I appreciate everybody who has done that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But there is one URL that I thought was unattainable, that I thought never would be able to be snatched up, but I have snatched it up, and it was cheap. | ||
| $12 a year. | ||
| This was not an expensive URL. | ||
| That is cheap. | ||
| AlexJonesIsAnIdiot.com is our website for this. | ||
| The Great Reset. | ||
| That coverage is there, and you can enjoy it at your leisure. | ||
| It's long. | ||
| Too long, many have said. | ||
| Who owned that URL, and how does that work? | ||
| I don't think anyone did. | ||
| I think it was open. | ||
| What does that even mean? | ||
| I think it was available. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That no one had AlexJonesIsAnIdiot.com? | ||
| So then, is that a thing? | ||
| What do you do then? | ||
| Does everybody have to auction it? | ||
| Do you have to fight for it? | ||
| I think demand was low. | ||
| Or is it just literally like, it's like a company that just has them and you register it as to you? | ||
| Yeah, it's like GoDaddy. | ||
| They have all the domains and stuff, right? | ||
| I mean, I don't know how it works either. | ||
| Yeah,'cause I mean now that I think about it, in the back of my head there's a part of me that's like, so it's like one company owns all the URLs. | ||
| I think, here's where And then you go to their warehouse and you're like, oh, Alex Jones and idiots. | ||
| I've not researched this in any way, but here's what my guess is. | ||
| My guess is that all domain names are available, essentially, except for the ones that are taken. | ||
| And so you use a service like GoDaddy, and it costs whatever amount a year for their registration service or whatever. | ||
| You could conceivably maybe do it yourself, but it might cost you more than $12 in the process of doing it per year or something. | ||
| And so the reason that some are higher up than others, some are way more expensive, is because someone's sitting on them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So people have pre-registered these domain names because they want to make it so you have to get into a bidding war with them. | ||
| Like AlexJones.com or something like that is going to be prohibitively expensive. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But AlexJonesIsAnIdiot.com, wide open. | ||
| Apparently. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Too obvious. | ||
| Yeah, maybe it is. | ||
| But that's why it's a perfect URL for my purposes. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's confrontational. | ||
| I mean, it's better than OnTheNose.com. | ||
| See if that's available. | ||
| So, I'm excited. | ||
| I hope people enjoy and have a good time. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is this weekend, Banner Weekend for anime. | ||
| Not quite the Hulk. | ||
| David Banner. | ||
| Netflix just released Blue Eye Samurai, which is fucking amazing. | ||
| If you like samurai movies... | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| If you even are okay with them, it is fucking awesome. | ||
| If you're tolerant of samurai movies. | ||
| If you're tolerant of samurai anything, this is awesome. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No doubt, really, really well written. | ||
| The animation's so good. | ||
| It's just awesome. | ||
| And then, finally, Attack on Titan ended. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| It finally ended. | ||
| Rest in peace, Attack on Titan. | ||
| After so many years. | ||
| So, the last season... | ||
| Attack on Titan was about three years ago, and then they did two more seasons. | ||
| To give you an idea of how... | ||
| It's like Fast and Furious. | ||
| It just won't go. | ||
| Yeah, it just won't stop. | ||
| And then it did. | ||
| It finally ended. | ||
| So, it was great. | ||
| It was a good ending. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Good for them. | ||
| How long has it been around? | ||
| Does it say General Hospital, Days of Our Lives kind of thing? | ||
| No, like probably a decade, something like that, maybe? | ||
| That's a good run. | ||
| Yeah, great run. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was a good ending. | ||
| Attack on Titan is a name that I have nothing to attach to. | ||
| I have no, like, my brain is trying to find any specific I can think of. | ||
| I got nothing. | ||
| I'm thinking of, like, Titan AE, that movie. | ||
| And I'll tell you this. | ||
| Do you know what's crazy about it? | ||
| The bad things, they're called Titans, right? | ||
| But they're not on Titan. | ||
| The planet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, the moon or whatever. | ||
| So it's not like you're attacking on... | ||
| It's like an assault on a thing. | ||
| It's just kind of like a... | ||
| They are titans. | ||
| It's an attack on them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| It's a Titanomachy, as the Greeks would put it. | ||
| It's a frustrating name. | ||
| I've always found it. | ||
| It's like a slant rhyme. | ||
| It's close, but it's not right. | ||
| This certainly doesn't help me put more details to the name, so I'm still just as confused as ever. | ||
| No, you're good. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And here's the sitch. | ||
| What? | ||
| Alex quit on our last episode. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| On Thursday's episode, November 1st of last week, he quit like a little baby. | ||
| Cried in a huff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, so on Friday, he had a little video of him in his backyard. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Yeah, that played at the beginning of the show. | ||
| And then somebody else hosted... | ||
| It wasn't even hosting. | ||
| It was just a video of a couple people talking shit for most of the show. | ||
| And then Drew Hernandez, the baby reporter, took over towards the end of the show. | ||
| Ouch. | ||
| And it's just Alex... | ||
| Rambling for a couple minutes in his backyard. | ||
| Like, this isn't good. | ||
| Then he did a show on Saturday. | ||
| Was he wearing all of his clothes correctly? | ||
| Or was he wearing, like, shorts with big hearts on them? | ||
| Here's where things get interesting. | ||
| Only shot from the shoulder up. | ||
| Shoulders up. | ||
| No idea if he had pants on. | ||
| So he's definitely outside the pool. | ||
| He could be. | ||
| So then on Saturday he put out a special report. | ||
| And he just called in and did a little bit on the phone on that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whereas the beginning of the show is all Viva Fry, who's the guy who does that podcast with Bobby Barnes. | ||
| He's another lawyer who's friends with Barnes. | ||
| And so he hosted, interviewing somebody who's apparently writing a book on the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati or some shit. | ||
| I love those bloodlines. | ||
| But apparently she was live streaming Trump's... | ||
| Trial or something like that, and she got in trouble, so that's why she's relevant. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Not interesting. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And then the end of that episode, the last hour or so, is Joel Gilbert, the guy who got screwed by Alex on Thursday, the guy who made the documentary, quote-unquote, about Michelle Obama. | ||
| Yeah, and then we didn't do the promo, so fuck it. | ||
| We're just not going to talk to him. | ||
| We're rescheduling. | ||
| He shows up. | ||
| He's got a trailer. | ||
| He's got a promo. | ||
| He's got everything. | ||
| He, alone, without Alex, does an entire presentation about this Michelle Obama film. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| But none of that is really worthwhile to talk about. | ||
| None of that is going to be an episode. | ||
| And so I delved back into the past. | ||
| It's been a while since we've had a 2004 episode. | ||
| It has. | ||
| And so I thought that would be perfect. | ||
| But unfortunately, in March... | ||
| 2004, there's a little bit of a lull in Alex's content. | ||
| I ended up hitting like three or four episodes in a row. | ||
| They're like, there's nothing happening here. | ||
| And so that's a time suck. | ||
| That ends up leading to a situation where Sunday is approaching us when we need to record, and I got nothing. | ||
| What do we have to do? | ||
| You know, I just had a thought, right? | ||
| You know what I find interesting is that... | ||
| When I look back over my time in the W years, so much time spent on, what dumb thing did W say today? | ||
| We don't do any of that. | ||
| I find that fascinating, to go back and just be like, that didn't even happen in our, this... | ||
| In Alex's world? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There is not really strategery and that kind of stuff. | ||
| It's kind of fascinating how an entire world, I recall, is so obsessed with those kinds of things, and then in Alex's world, it's just not even there. | ||
| We might just not be on the right days yet. | ||
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That's possible. | |
| I don't know if we have a full... | ||
| We haven't gotten to the re-election yet. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| There's still a lot of Bush left to go. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| You know, because was he machine-gunning those out? | ||
| You know, was that a factory? | ||
| Like, one every day? | ||
| He's got another idiotic thing. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It felt like that, but maybe he only said, like, ten stupid things. | ||
| Fool me once. | ||
| Won't get fooled again. | ||
| Was that what it was? | ||
| That was one of them. | ||
| That was something like that. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Fool me once. | ||
| Won't get fooled again. | ||
| I know it was a little bit... | ||
| More to that quote. | ||
| But anyway, I was thinking about some high-profile guests and stuff that we haven't covered, and I couldn't really come up with any off the top of my head that I would know where to find them, and, you know, just, what are we going to do? | ||
| And so I realized there's one thing we haven't covered, and here's an out-of-context drop from that. | ||
| Alex, are you over six inches? | ||
| You know, I mean, I can get the job done. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, in 2013... | ||
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Alex was on Howard Stern. | |
| And Howard Stern asked him if his dick was over six inches. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That is a maddening answer. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| I get the job done. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| So, it's a surreal environment for Alex to be in. | ||
| But, you know, I think I knew... | ||
| Of course I knew this happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think I felt like I don't want to cover this because... | ||
| First of all, I don't like Stern that much. | ||
| I never was a big Stern guy growing up. | ||
| And it just kind of felt dumb. | ||
| But I decided, hey, we have something to cover for today. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| Why not dive in and see what Howard Stern and Alex Jones got up to? | ||
| Roll them bones. | ||
| This was also, I should say, it's in 2013. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It is in the immediate time after Alex was on Piers Morgan and screamed at him. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so that was when Alex was a hot commodity in the media. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I believe, if I had to guess, based on the way this goes... | ||
| Howard was interested in maybe him being part of a whack pack. | ||
| You know, like, we've got this crazy guy who yelled at Piers Morgan. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| This might be another interesting, insane person to add to our cadre. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| So this may be like a recruitment interview as well. | ||
| Or at least a spectacle. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Well, sure. | |
| So we'll get down to business on this, Jordan, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first... | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, my name is JR. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Good old JR. | ||
| Next, happy first anniversary to my amazing wife, the future pirate queen of Lake Michigan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Baron Von Count Grishnikak Dasad and his faithful steed Poots the Cat. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And Alex Jones is my emotional support demagogue. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So thank you so much to VHS, the pacifist lizard queen, and her dog Woodstock, the tiny love festival. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| I got confused while reading that because Woodstock in Peanuts is not the dog. | ||
| Not the dog. | ||
| Very specifically not the dog, but hangs out on the dog house. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Untangle these threads. | ||
| Totally accurate statement you have made. | ||
| So here is the beginning of Stern's interview with Alex. | ||
| He introduces him. | ||
| And of course, the context of this is that post-Piers Morgan thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so Alex talks about how they desperately wanted to keep him off the show and all this. | ||
| Alex Jones is a radio host. | ||
| He's on a lot of... | ||
| I don't even know how many... | ||
| Alex, how many stations are you on? | ||
| Around 150. | ||
| Howard, it's great to be here with you and Robin and the whole crew. | ||
| It's crazy to be here. | ||
| I've been listening to you for more than 20 years. | ||
| Well, great to have you on. | ||
| Because we saw you on Piers Morgan. | ||
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And really enjoyed it. | |
| We loved it. | ||
| I think it was the best Piers Morgan appearance I've ever seen. | ||
| Well, folks liked it, and they said it was the highest ratings they've had in their entire two-year history. | ||
| But I ran into Piers Morgan in Houston a few weeks ago, and he said they're basically scared to have me back on. | ||
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Why? | |
| Why would they be scared of you? | ||
| I guess they're afraid of ratings. | ||
| Well, he said on video, I actually caught it on video down in Houston, he said, we don't want to give you that much attention. | ||
| And I'm like, no, no, no. | ||
| It's having controversy on your show that gave... | ||
| So that's a fun way of putting it. | ||
| Like, I ran into Piers Morgan. | ||
| I just randomly ran into him. | ||
| It was so weird. | ||
| I was at the store, all right, and then I went to go, well, because I hadn't put the quarter into the machine, so I went to go look at that, and who was across the street getting a new pair of shoes but Piers Morgan. | ||
| Or even, like, more to the point that you're trying to, like, express is, like, me and Piers run in similar circles, and we just... | ||
| Happened to run into each other, as opposed to Alex cornering him at an event Piers was doing and begging him to come back on the show. | ||
| Hey, man, we can have a lot of fun. | ||
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We got a lot of ratings. | |
| It was good. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. | ||
| It's a good way to put it when you're talking to Stern. | ||
| We were there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, Alex, he went to New York to do this interview with Piers Morgan. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Is he in studio with Howard? | |
| Mr. Stern, please. | ||
| I don't know him. | ||
| I only listen to the audio of this, but Alex does say here in Austin at one point, so I think they're doing it remotely. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| But he went to New York, and shit was crazy, man. | ||
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Sure. | |
| There were people all over the place following him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There is a paranoid, delusional fantasy that Alex expresses about his time in New York here. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you know, you have said that you were scared even to go to New York because you do have conspiracy theories, and you were afraid they were plotting to kill you in New York, right? | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Well, I mean, just to be honest, I mean, I've snuck into Bohemian Grove, I've covered skull and bones, I've covered military operations, I've been arrested in New York for demonstrating things like that. | ||
| It was after, well, first... | ||
| They wanted to drive me the five or six blocks and pick us up. | ||
| And I said, you know what, I want to walk down to the CNN building. | ||
| And so they had cops in plain clothes that kept popping out. | ||
| I even caught some of them on video going, hey Alex, where are you going? | ||
| You planning something? | ||
| And then when I left, they were following us. | ||
| And it looked like cops from the movie Goodfellas or something. | ||
| And then at our hotel they were waiting for us. | ||
| And I said, you know what, I think I'm going to get in a cab. | ||
| We're already flying out of New Jersey. | ||
| I said, let's just drive out. | ||
| Stay in New Jersey and fly out the next morning. | ||
| So, yes, my spidey sense, which, I mean, I rarely get up and leave someplace. | ||
| I had a bad feeling with a bunch of New York detectives following me around. | ||
| I got out of the city. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| And you live in Texas, and that's your thing. | ||
| Are you a married guy? | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| Yeah, and you got kids? | ||
| Three of them. | ||
| So Stern, you can tell, is kind of like, all right, let's move along this. | ||
| Maybe we'll touch back on this. | ||
| This interview is, like, just nuts. | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| Except through the prism of Stern being like... | ||
| See if I can get some entertainment out of this guy. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem that way. | ||
| And the way that Robin treats it is very fun. | ||
| I already appreciate just that. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| They tried to kill you. | ||
| They tried to kill me. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Like, okay, yeah, all right, we get it. | ||
| All these detectives followed me. | ||
| Nobody tried to kill you. | ||
| Fox News lured me. | ||
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Detectives? | |
| Detectives? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| So the idea behind it is basically that Mike Bloomberg was trying to lure... | ||
| Alex to New York, basically. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now that part makes sense. | ||
| He must have had Piers Morgan invite Alex to come on in order to put him in a place where he could be kettled and these detectives would entrap him or somehow snatch him up or kill him. | ||
| That's beat cop shit. | ||
| You don't need a detective for that. | ||
| What is a detective even doing there? | ||
| They do a better job. | ||
| Well, listen, nobody's arguing that fact. | ||
| Cleaner assassination methods. | ||
| That is important. | ||
| That is important. | ||
| So, Stern, he shifts over to your family stuff, and then gets back to the... | ||
| Do you think people were trying to murder you in New York? | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Okay, okay, okay. | ||
| And he gets Alex to waffle a little bit with it. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
| Oh, weak. | ||
| Don't you lose people with, although, I mean, listen, you're a radio guy, you've got to be a performer, too, and you've got to hold an audience. | ||
| If you keep upping the ante, like you said, Mayor Bloomberg probably hired the mafia or undercover cops to pose as crackheads to kill you while you're in New York City. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| You know, during the Piers Morgan thing. | ||
| That's where you start to lose people because you're like, you know what I mean? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You could probably run for office or something if you didn't go after the really far out there conspiracy theory. | ||
| Listen, Howard, I totally agree with you that that sounds crazy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| It happened, so I talked about it. | ||
| I've never put out something saying they're coming after us, look out, this is going on. | ||
| I was sick when I went to New York, had the flu, was throwing up in the CNN bathroom. | ||
| That's why I described how dirty it was. | ||
| It was really disgusting to me. | ||
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Spend it over a toilet with crap sprayed all over the wall. | |
| Literally, not from me, other people. | ||
| I'm in this filthy bathroom throwing up. | ||
| I've got to go out there. | ||
| I'm sweating. | ||
| I'm up there with Piers Morgan. | ||
| Actually, I wasn't putting on an act. | ||
| I was pissed off. | ||
| I did blow up. | ||
| But it actually worked out. | ||
| At first, people were all shocked by it. | ||
| But then they said, wait a minute. | ||
| And, of course, I heard Robin the day after talking about it. | ||
| Look, you should be mad. | ||
| That's being a real American. | ||
| They said it discredited me, but notice they haven't invited me back. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't want America waking up out of its coma and getting upset. | ||
| But listen, getting back to the whole Bloomberg thing. | ||
| That night, before we left the hotel, it might have been a little panicked. | ||
| I might have even, in my own mind, exaggerated things. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I caught some of this on tape. | ||
| In my own mind, exaggerated things. | ||
| My news director went with me. | ||
| I say, man, I feel like crap. | ||
| Maybe if I walk down the street because I'm sick, maybe I'll feel better when we get there. | ||
| So I'm walking the five, six blocks, and guys are popping out of doorways, obviously cops, going, hey, buddy, what you planning? | ||
| You planning to do something? | ||
| I'm a big listener. | ||
| You think that he was plotting against you, Bloomberg? | ||
| I'm just guessing because he runs the city, and they look like detectives to me that I've seen around Bloomberg when I've been up in New York. | ||
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Could they have been famous? | |
| Unimpeachable luggage. | ||
| Listen, the first time I thought, man, that guy probably is a cop. | ||
| It happened twice, three times. | ||
| They knew where I was at. | ||
| They obviously had the cell phone tracking systems that the police under Homeland Security can dial into and pinpoint exactly where you're at, just like your wife, if she has your phone code. | ||
| Alex, do you ever think that you're paranoid? | ||
| Seriously, because... | ||
| No, listen, I caught it on tape. | ||
| That's the thing, is that... | ||
| Then I said, I want to be let on the mall exit. | ||
| I don't want to be let out on the back door. | ||
| His guys are waiting out there. | ||
| And we walk out, and there's the guy turning, talking to his sleeve, bumping into the wall, and two other guys are walking up like in a Goodfellas movie. | ||
| And I said, taxi, and jumped in a cab and left. | ||
| All I know is... | ||
| You think they wanted you out of New York? | ||
| Listen, I was arrested. | ||
| It's on video in New York five years ago for nothing. | ||
| Okay, we were down there protesting at Fox News. | ||
| They had a live event. | ||
| What were you protesting? | ||
| We were protesting media propaganda. | ||
| The point is, I was protesting Geraldo Rivera. | ||
| I was protesting Geraldo Rivera. | ||
| I found that video. | ||
| I've watched it. | ||
| He was arrested, and it was for inciting people. | ||
| He had his bullhorn out and everything. | ||
| And it was a demonstration, a place they didn't have a permit to hold a rally. | ||
| So it was that. | ||
| There was a reason. | ||
| You can argue whether it's a good enough reason or not to... | ||
| Detain him momentarily. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he was almost killed by these detectives. | ||
| I mean, you can't really argue with the way he's laying it out. | ||
| It sounds not like a paranoid person at all. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| It sounds legit. | ||
| It is weird to exist in the totality of Alex's career, you know, now, where it's like... | ||
| We know what he sounded like in 2004. | ||
| Obviously, in 1999, we know what he sounded like. | ||
| That we're in 2013 all the way, all these years later, and it's still Howard Stern being like, Alex, do you sound paranoid? | ||
| You know, and it's like, you don't even fuck. | ||
| We should all be doing something about this! | ||
| Not Howard being like, do you sound paranoid? | ||
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No! | |
| Well, it's an interesting point because at this stage in 2013, the public awareness of Alex Jones would have been fairly minimal. | ||
| He was well known within conspiracy and pretty far right-wing media-ish circles. | ||
| but in terms of his uh penetration of like mainstream awareness there was some 9-11 blips that he might have come to the surface with sure there might have been some instances where like his involvement with the tea party might have made him closer to relevant to people but like until he was on that piers morgan show there was not really a ton of uh like who is this guy he's uh a big name. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Weird times. | ||
| So it makes sense for Howard to have a little bit of a who is this kind of fucker on here talking nonsense. | ||
| But yeah, he does sound a little paranoid, I think. | ||
| What's Howard's plan here? | ||
| I don't think he has one. | ||
| I think he wants to find out how big Alex's dick is. | ||
| I mean, I feel like that's probably where we should go. | ||
| That comes up later in a part that I did not include, where Alex is describing how he had sex at 12 and all that stuff. | ||
| All of his childhood dalliances that he does not believe to be traumatic. | ||
| Very, very traumatic. | ||
| Fucking traumatic to me. | ||
| So, the police were following Alex. | ||
| And then he admits that he might be overblowing all of this. | ||
| Listen, my point is, I know... | ||
| When people are basically hunting you, you know when a tiger is crawling on its front paws about to pounce on a gazelle or something. | ||
| No, that's the point. | ||
| You don't know that. | ||
| You know when cops are on your butt planning something, they had a look in their eyes like they were planning something. | ||
| You know the difference when cops have just got you staked out to see if you're planning something, and the difference when they're acting really aggressive and bugging their eyes out. | ||
| I really don't know the difference. | ||
| And my instinct was, get the hell out of here. | ||
| Do you think they don't like you? | ||
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You think you're safe in Texas? | |
| Is that why you broadcast from there? | ||
| Listen, I go out. | ||
| I've snuck on military bases to cover urban warfare drills. | ||
| I snuck into Bohemian Grove. | ||
| I go out there without bodyguards and do all this stuff. | ||
| I'm not normally a timid person. | ||
| I've gone in. | ||
| I've gotten my Piers Morgan interview. | ||
| I had the flu. | ||
| So when you're dizzy and puking, do you feel like going to jail? | ||
| Are you in fear for your life? | ||
| Not generally. | ||
| I mean, I'm in fear for my life when I drive to work. | ||
| That's the most dangerous thing in this country is automobiles. | ||
| But listen, let's just be specific here. | ||
| I'm bold. | ||
| I'm the opposite of fearful. | ||
| I was off balance. | ||
| I was sick in New York. | ||
| I was going off pure adrenaline. | ||
| And that's why. | ||
| I mean, imagine, Howard. | ||
| I'm sure before you've had an event or some big thing you've got to do. | ||
| You're a consummate professional. | ||
| Have you ever been sick before and had to go on air? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And were kind of an asshole? | ||
| Many times. | ||
| I'm not kind of an asshole. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| When you're sick and have to perform, you tend to be almost even more focused. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's funny, some of my best shows are when I'm really sick. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, again, I mean, sure, I had the flu. | ||
| I had 102 fever. | ||
| I mean, did I overblow cops following me around? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
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Did I make all this up because I have these excuses that I was sick and I had a fever? | |
| Yes, of course I did. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Just gotta let him keep talking until he says, yes, of course I was lying to you. | ||
| And have a high-status person like Howard Stern who won't let things go, necessarily. | ||
| No, it's 100% Austin Powers like, oh, no, he asked you three times. | ||
| And at the third time, he's like, yeah, I made it all up. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| If you just ask him, nobody ever follows up. | ||
| Nobody just asks him three times. | ||
| But it has to be... | ||
| This environment is really... | ||
| Unique in some ways, because it's live, presumably. | ||
| It is Howard Stern, who's somebody who's a giant celebrity, and someone who Alex says multiple times, I've listened to you for years. | ||
| So it's someone who Alex enjoys and likes. | ||
| And it's also somebody who has keen interviewing instincts, and can tell when Alex is trying to dodge something, and is willing to be like, nope, what are you talking about? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| And, yeah, that's a threatening position for Alex, because you just end up saying, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I made it up. | ||
| I overblew it in my head. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| I had a fever, and so I made it up! | ||
| And it's more fun to imagine that I'm being chased out of New York by Bloomberg hired mafia undercover detective goons. | ||
| Yeah, come on, man. | ||
| You know it's better for the brand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they talk a little bit about the turning the frogs gay thing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it turns out frogs are gay, fish are bisexual, and shrimp are becoming suicidal. | ||
| These are the talking points of the ocean. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And so they want to, Stern and Robin want to touch on this and be like, you don't hate. | ||
| Gay people, right? | ||
| Where are you on gay marriage? | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Man, great times to be alive. | ||
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How do you stand on gay marriage? | |
| Where are you on gay marriage? | ||
| I don't care about it. | ||
| Well, listen, I'm a libertarian, so I think people should be able to do whatever they want. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Good. | ||
| What happened when you went on the show The View? | ||
| Was it a disaster? | ||
| I didn't see tape of that. | ||
| No, it was great. | ||
| I mean, I took it over. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, what's the point? | ||
| They wanted to basically make fun of Charlie Sheen when I was on there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is he your buddy? | ||
| You know, I've known Charlie for about eight years. | ||
| I've probably stayed at his house 15 times. | ||
| He's a really, really interesting fellow. | ||
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That I would say, yes. | |
| And the reality is beyond even what people hear. | ||
| He's a really, really smart guy. | ||
| So, like, when you go over to Charlie's house because you've become friendly, he's a fan of yours, right? | ||
| He buys into a lot of your theories. | ||
| Sure, but I shouldn't have let the meltdown happen a year and a half ago on my show because it was first Martin Sheen and Emilio Estevez that were listeners. | ||
| It was Emilio that turned him on to the show and my films, and then Charlie invited me out there. | ||
| He called me back in 2005. | ||
| Was it culture shock for you when you went over his house? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, back then he was all clean and just incredibly smart and incredible energy. | ||
| The guy would sit there up until 2 a.m. just talking about quantum mechanics and stuff. | ||
| Does he know what he's talking about? | ||
| Oh, he does. | ||
| But see, the issue is... | ||
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Well, how would you know? | |
| Do you know quantum mechanics? | ||
| I'm into stuff like that. | ||
| Sure, that's what I'm into. | ||
| That's his thing. | ||
| That's his thing. | ||
| Yeah, definitely doesn't sound like... | ||
| Somebody who's on drugs, staying up all hours of the night, rambling about quantum mechanics when you're an actor. | ||
| That's when he was clean. | ||
| Yeah, totally clean. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's when things were getting cleaned a lot, because he was up all night, all the time. | ||
| Compulsively clean, some might say. | ||
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So, almost, oh, too clean. | |
| I think that Alex believes himself to be a fan of gay marriage or fine with gay marriage at this point in his life. | ||
| He's lying to himself and to everyone around him. | ||
| But I do think that he thinks that's his position at this point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That said, I'm fascinated by the idea that he's able to articulate that he shouldn't have let Charlie Sheen behave the way he did on his show. | ||
| I am blown away by that. | ||
| Because that is the truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As a friend. | ||
| As somebody who has any concern for the welfare of others over what ratings you'll get out of something, he had every obligation to not allow that interview to proceed. | ||
| Like, Charlie Sheen was obviously fucked up, and Alex was actually egging him on. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Because it was good radio. | ||
| And it ruined Charlie Sheen's fucking life. | ||
| Yeah, it is really strange to hear him say it. | ||
| And so readily say it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And just be like, yeah, I've actually analyzed my behavior from that time, recognized a failing, and am now willing to admit to that. | ||
| Especially considering we know that he doesn't give a fuck about Joe Rogan. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck about any of these people. | ||
| Did God tell him to destroy Charlie Sheen? | ||
| Maybe that's the problem. | ||
| Maybe God was like, come on, man. | ||
| Why didn't you save Charlie Sheen? | ||
| I loved that guy. | ||
| Or God was like... | ||
| Major League One. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Major League Two. | ||
| Hot Shots Part One. | ||
| Hot Shots Part Two. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Part Two, really. | ||
| No one cares about Hot Shots. | ||
| It had to rhyme with two. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm channeling Alex because he's saying listen a lot in this interview. | ||
| I think that God was probably telling Alex while he was doing that interview, this is good shit, man. | ||
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Keep it going. | |
| Keep it going. | ||
| Ironically, I bet God was saying the same thing to Charlie Sheep. | ||
| So the question of drugs comes up, and Alex is weirdly cagey about something. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Did he ever try to do drugs with you? | ||
| No, listen, I've never seen him do drugs. | ||
| All I've seen him is smoke Marlboro Reds and drink tons of coffee. | ||
| Were you ever into drugs? | ||
| You know, I mean, I've been honest about it. | ||
| Growing up in Dallas, Texas, I experimented with this and that, but every time I... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Pot? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Moods? | ||
| You know, I never really liked... | ||
| I mean, I tried hard drugs once or twice. | ||
| LSD? | ||
| How am I going to discuss this? | ||
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What do you mean? | |
| Alex, did you do LSD? | ||
| No, I didn't. | ||
| I didn't have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky. | ||
| Why don't you talk about drug use? | ||
| I smoked pot, but I didn't inhale. | ||
| How come you don't... | ||
| Do you want to run for office or something? | ||
| Listen here, I've got to tell you something, Howard. | ||
| I've got sex with that woman. | ||
| I've never done LSD. | ||
| Alex, why don't you talk about that? | ||
| You seem pretty honest. | ||
| Why don't you talk... | ||
| Talk about stuff like that. | ||
| Because it's a distraction and overall diversion. | ||
| And I might have a glass of wine now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't even smoke cigars anymore. | ||
| So, I mean, that's basically it. | ||
| I mean, I'm a clean guy. | ||
| So, if you admit that you did acid, it would hurt who? | ||
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Undermine your argument? | |
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Then Howard would say, well, that's why he's so paranoid. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I wouldn't say that. | ||
| I did acid. | ||
| I mean, it was the biggest mistake of my life. | ||
| I'm high on reality. | ||
| nailed why Alex wouldn't talk about this. | ||
| He has such a defensiveness about it because he feels that people would not take him seriously if they knew that he'd done hallucinogenic things in the past. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's the instinct that I'm talking about that Howard Stern has that a lot of other interviewers don't have and because of his high status with Alex he's able to operate in this way and ask those questions that Alex would storm out or not You know, take seriously from someone else. | |
| Sure. | ||
| The point there is pretty important, I think. | ||
| That Alex is fine saying, I've done hash. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've smoked weed. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And also, you can tell that Howard is fucking with him because the next one was lewds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He done quaaludes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I were Alex, I'd be kind of self-conscious about that, too. | ||
| Because he is so clearly unbalanced. | ||
| Pretending he's an acid casualty or something like that makes some sense. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's hard not... | ||
| If anybody's yelling about MKUltra too much, who also did LSD, you immediately drop them down a peg or two, and the credibility train. | ||
| And Alex doesn't want to have to deal with the reality of what his credibility is. | ||
| He wants to... | ||
| Sort of whitewash a little bit. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Or at least in this situation, you know. | ||
| But I don't know how hard it would be to say, to admit that you've done LSD if you're yelling about how God downloaded everything into your brain over a chicken fried steak. | ||
| Well, he's high on reality. | ||
| Well, I mean, you can do both. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| I'll give it a shot. | ||
| You can probably do both. | ||
| But Alex recognizes that his arguments about his own shit fall apart a little bit if you're like, oh, you've done a bunch of drugs. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| It is weird that if you say it's a dream... | ||
| Or if you say you did drugs, people immediately go, ah, I'm going to ignore that. | ||
| But if you just say that, no, it really happened, a lot of people go, whoa! | ||
| Or it was a vision. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You can't just, nobody ever just goes, oh, well, see, here's the other scenarios where people say this. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| I want to quickly clarify what I'm saying, too, really quick. | ||
| About this. | ||
| I don't think that Alex, having done acid, makes him any less credible, or whatever. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't believe that, but I believe that in Alex's head, he projects that onto other people, that they would not take him seriously if they knew he did hallucinogens in his past. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And I think correctly. | ||
| Not onto us. | ||
| Yeah, maybe some people. | ||
| But correctly on the greater whole. | ||
| Meanwhile, he's on his show talking about doing crack on a beach. | ||
| He did heroin once. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But those are genteel drugs. | ||
| And he did hash. | ||
| We learn now. | ||
| He didn't do hash. | ||
| He did hash. | ||
| Nobody put hash. | ||
| I drank mead. | ||
| What are you talking about, hash? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So, there's a new death. | ||
| New death just dropped? | ||
| Relatively. | ||
| Bin Laden's dead. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And Alex doesn't believe that shit. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| And he references a very credible source. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, let me understand something. | ||
| Do you think Osama Bin Laden was killed during the... | ||
| When we found out. | ||
| When do you think he got... | ||
| Do you think he's alive? | ||
| Well, I mean, here's the issue. | ||
| See, let me just go back for a moment. | ||
| You really don't believe they killed him? | ||
| Let me just break this down. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| Okay, I said day one. | ||
| With Dr. Steve Pacinic, who was the former head of the State Department and CIA psychological operations. | ||
| He's the guy that got the Anwar Sadat deal at Camp David. | ||
| He's the guy that co-wrote Tom Clancy's books. | ||
| He killed Aldo Morrow. | ||
| That's the one he did do. | ||
| I just want to go on record as saying, I think Osama right now is being eaten by gay fish and suicidal shrimp. | ||
| I think he's in that water right now. | ||
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He's eating the bisexual shrimp? | |
| This dick right now. | ||
| Go ahead, Alex. | ||
| Hey, did you guys search engine the suicidal shrimp to find them online? | ||
| No, I haven't done it yet. | ||
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Not yet. | |
| We're going to go home and do homework. | ||
| I'm treadmill. | ||
| Benji, what's it say about suicidal shrimp? | ||
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Yeah, no, I looked it up. | |
| He talked about... | ||
| Now, their intention might not be suicide, but like he said, they swim. | ||
| They go out of their minds when they swim to where they're not protected. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So yeah, Alex says Steve Pachanik. | ||
| Most reliable source. | ||
| Super credible guy. | ||
| Willing to drop his name on Howard Stern's show to impress him a little bit. | ||
| Not so much these days. | ||
| I think outside, like, pure alien-wise, the sheer weirdness of the diversity of places that Steve Pachanek seems to pop up. | ||
| Maddening. | ||
| Absolute insanity. | ||
| I do have something of a belief that he might be, underneath the surface, one of the more influential people. | ||
| Something... | ||
| He's caused a lot of damage for someone who's not a household name. | ||
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Something... | |
| Yeah, by virtue of a lot of the things that he was instrumental in pushing through Alex, it's... | ||
| I mean, he's a major part of Alex adopting Trump. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's a major part of Alex's belief in false flags, particularly in the case of Sandy Hook. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He is somebody who... | ||
| I don't know what the reality of any connection is, but he was preaching basically what QAnon is before QAnon existed. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He's a guy who's up to some shit. | ||
| There's a Forrest Gump element, but if every scene where Forrest Gump shows up in a historical thing and everybody's like, oh, he's there. | ||
| Instead, Steve Pachenik is, like, kicking somebody in the shin, and then it sets off a weird domino effect. | ||
| And it's not like, oh, he's whispering in the ears of important people. | ||
| It is literally, he kicks a guy in the shin, and then a Rube Goldberg machine pops off, and then Aldo Morrow's dead! | ||
| Steve has a resume that is fraudulent, but it is full of ways in which he has been incredibly influential and the most important person in the world. | ||
| And the truth is, he has been really influential, just not in the ways that his resume would say. | ||
| I've fucked with Alex to the point where I have really just destroyed minds. | ||
| Of tons of his audience. | ||
| And I would be more proud of his actual CV than his fake one. | ||
| His fake one is clearly... | ||
| The Stevie CV? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| But I mean, the real one is obviously like, that's too much. | ||
| You were too busy. | ||
| You know what that CV says? | ||
| It says you neglected your wife. | ||
| But he would not be able to pull off... | ||
| The things that are in his real CV if it weren't for the fake things in his fake CV. | ||
| Well, that's one part of his real CV. | ||
| No one would take him as seriously if, like, he didn't have, I took down the Soviet Union single-handedly in his resume. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But, I mean, one part of his resume is great resume writer. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| So, Alex explains his conspiracy surrounding bin Laden. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And I think that, I don't know, this isn't well articulated. | ||
| Go to Bin Laden. | ||
| Is he being eaten by gay shrimp or not? | ||
| Listen, here's the deal. | ||
| Dr. Steve Pachinik said on 2002 on my show, and he's a doctor. | ||
| He's a doctor. | ||
| A medical doctor, not just a psychiatrist. | ||
| He said... | ||
| That Bin Laden died of kidney failure and where he died. | ||
| And even CBS News reported he was at the American Hospital in Dubai, dying in 2002. | ||
| This is what's insane. | ||
| But that he would be rolled out later by Bush. | ||
| But see, Walter Cronkite came out before he died. | ||
| And then Madeleine Albright came out in 2004 during the election, Bush's re-election. | ||
| And so did Kerry's wife, Hines. | ||
| They all came out. | ||
| Look this up, folks. | ||
| I can't believe this. | ||
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Wait a minute. | |
| Let him finish. | ||
| And listen, I swear to God. | ||
| Just wrap it up. | ||
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Wrap it up. | |
| I've got to hear what you're going to say. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| I'm just giving you sources, so you're listening to this isn't crap. | ||
| They all came out and said, Dr. Pachenik's right, bin Laden has been frozen over Air Force Base, and they're going to roll out... | ||
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I'm not laughing, because I just felt... | |
| They're going to roll out his... | ||
| I don't blame you for... | ||
| Robin's right in there with you, don't worry. | ||
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No, I just don't believe his death now meant anything. | |
| But listen, here's what I'm saying. | ||
| Because Walter Cronkite and the former Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, came out and said... | ||
| Bush, don't bring out his body to get re-elected. | ||
| They couldn't do it, so they kept him frozen. | ||
| And then they had the Navy SEALs go to a house to get the thought-out dead body. | ||
| And then they blew up the Navy SEALs when they got on the helicopter so that it wouldn't actually get out. | ||
| And then two weeks later, I talked to one of the Navy SEALs whose buddy died in SEAL Team 6 here in Austin. | ||
| I talked to him. | ||
| Remember, 23 of them blew up on the helicopter in Afghanistan. | ||
| They then blew up the guys so they couldn't tell the truth. | ||
| And now it turns out no one saw the body. | ||
| Everybody thrown off the aircraft carrier. | ||
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They fired everybody on the aircraft carrier. | |
| And what about this guy who was in the military who just said he's the guy who put the bullet in bin Laden's head and he's saying that he can't even get any kind of help in terms of assistance or money from the government. | ||
| He can't find a job. | ||
| I mean, he seems pretty legitimate. | ||
| It's all part of a PSYOP, so it's believable, so you feel sorry for him. | ||
| Ah, it's all part of a PSYOP to make us feel sorry for him, so it's believable. | ||
| That tracks. | ||
| Yeah, so they had bin Laden frozen, right? | ||
| So, hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| Let me say my piece. | ||
| I'm being held on! | ||
| Cronkite. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Teresa Hines-Carrie. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| Margaret Thatcher. | ||
| I mean, no. | ||
| Albright. | ||
| Albright. | ||
| Not Thatcher. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| Excuse me. | ||
| I think Thatcher's dead by this point. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe she's frozen. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| That's where my problems start. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So they all say, hey man, Pachanik's right. | ||
| Don't bring out bin Laden's dead body to help you get re-elected. | ||
| It was a very weird thing for them to say to Bush through the news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, we've... | ||
| Could have sent a letter. | ||
| We've seen a little bit of what this is based on already in our 2004 episodes. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's a very interesting, compelling kind of conspiracy if you don't have any basis for understanding of what Alex is talking about. | ||
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Right. | |
| If this is all just being... | ||
| Like, spat at you wholesale. | ||
| Like, why would he say all this stuff if it's not real? | ||
| It seems to have so many specifics and so many details. | ||
| Teresa Hines Carey told Bush not to do it. | ||
| So then they had him frozen. | ||
| They put him in that house, thawed him out. | ||
| Then the Marines came, SEAL Team 6, had to kill all of the elite SEAL Team in order to make sure that they didn't talk about how they just went to get a frozen body. | ||
| And Alex knows this from talking to somebody who I assume is Tonto. | ||
| Tonto Speranto. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Here's my problem. | ||
| How could you have a problem? | ||
| Now, the rest of this makes sense. | ||
| This is the only problem I have. | ||
| Everything else makes perfect sense. | ||
| Once you've got... | ||
| Osama Bin Laden frozen. | ||
| You're keeping him someplace. | ||
| Now, I cannot help but think that if you've already got an Osama Bin Laden frozen, you've got a frozen people playbook. | ||
| Which means you've done this before. | ||
| Which means I wonder, who else is in that frozen meat locker? | ||
| And then I think to myself, once you've got two or three plus famous people, frozen corpses in your meat locker, right? | ||
| Maybe you want another one. | ||
| Maybe you start collecting frozen famous people. | ||
| Now let me flip this on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What if it is the first time? | ||
| What if Bin Laden died and someone's like, I might be able to use this later. | ||
| Freeze this asshole real quick. | ||
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Right. | |
| This could be useful. | ||
| What if he had... | ||
| What if it was a weekend at Bernie's, but in reverse... | ||
| He came back to life. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's Weekend at Bernie's 2. No, he was pretending to be dead. | ||
| And had people act like he was dead, making him pretend to be alive. | ||
| While he was frozen? | ||
| No, he was frozen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The freezing is really a difficult thing to get around. | ||
| The freezing is difficult to get around, yeah. | ||
| So he was frozen for like a decade then, basically, right? | ||
| How long can you freeze a person for? | ||
| Ask Walt Disney. | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What kind of freezing are we doing? | ||
| Are we talking full cryogenic freezing? | ||
| I think, this is just my assessment, sure. | ||
| If this is true. | ||
| If? | ||
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If? | |
| Big if. | ||
| Big if. | ||
| If you're keeping bin Laden frozen for a decade. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's gonna be... | ||
| Someone's gonna talk. | ||
| There's a number of people who are going to need to be involved in terms of maintaining the cryogenic pod or whatever the fuck. | ||
| There would be a number of people involved in this. | ||
| I find it difficult to believe that there wouldn't be some kind of talking. | ||
| But then again, you talk, you get frozen. | ||
| See, well, now I get what you're saying there. | ||
| Here's why... | ||
| Here's what I would... | ||
| Here's my... | ||
| Way that this breaks down, right? | ||
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Sure. | |
| One, the smart thing you do if you've got Osama Bin Laden frozen, keep him in a place, hide him forest for the trees kind of thing, you know? | ||
| Very small, very middle of nowhere. | ||
| Hide him out, you know? | ||
| That house. | ||
| Who's looking for, yeah, who's looking for Osama Bin Laden? | ||
| That house that he was in was probably a cryo facility. | ||
| Might as well put it there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Problem is, you got at least one person in there every now and again checking to see if the power's on. | ||
| Sooner or later, they are out on a date, going a little bit hard. | ||
| Suddenly the only interesting thing they've got is like, you want to see Osama? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then all of a sudden the whole- You want to see a frozen terrorist? | ||
| Yes, do you want to see a frozen terrorist? | ||
| And then the whole thing falls apart. | ||
| Look, I just don't have any game. | ||
| I can't impress ladies on dates. | ||
| That's why conspiracies never work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A lack of game. | ||
| Someone's too thirsty and is bombing on a date and- You know, if we think too hard on it, that might come out more true than I want. | ||
| So the topic of abortion comes up, and this is just kind of incoherent. | ||
| Are you for abortion? | ||
| I'm for it. | ||
| I mean, there's so many unwanted children in the world. | ||
| I know you were crying the other night about children. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| What was that, by the way? | ||
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What happened to those children? | |
| But seriously, Alex, what are we talking about? | ||
| Who was crying for children? | ||
| You. | ||
| In 2011. | ||
| We played a tape of you crying over some children. | ||
| I don't know what the hell was going on. | ||
| Well, I have actually cried for real sometimes. | ||
| But listen, here's the issue. | ||
| On the issue of gay marriage, it should be a state issue, as Ron Paul has said. | ||
| And the state shouldn't even be involved, period. | ||
| And on the issue of abortion, they carry out abortion for population reduction. | ||
| And again, I'm going to say it. | ||
| Margaret Sanger... | ||
| You can pull up her writings, university writings, scans of the letters, in the National Archive, where she said, we're going to pose as liberals so that blacks trust us. | ||
| We're going to hire black doctors and preachers to sell them on a welfare state, to take over the black community and break up their families so we can abort them. | ||
| And they abort fully 52% of blacks since Roe v. | ||
| Wade in this country. | ||
| So, again... | ||
| Again, we're talking about blacks. | ||
| So you're against abortion or you're for it? | ||
| I'm stating. | ||
| I'm asking people. | ||
| Okay, I can hear the argument of, oh, it's a woman's ride or she got raped or whatever, first trimester. | ||
| I'm saying there's too many people on the planet who are unwanted and unloved. | ||
| I'm against abortion because those are humans, and they're even aborting people, Howard, up to nine months. | ||
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Nine years. | |
| I'm for nine years. | ||
| I've got to tell you something. | ||
| There's so many unloved, unwanted children. | ||
| And by the way, most people who are for it, Before, you know, the abolition of abortion, they don't give to charity, and they don't sit there and take these children in. | ||
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They're not adopting these children. | |
| They're not adopting these children. | ||
| They just want more children. | ||
| It's a nightmare. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Let me ask you this, though. | ||
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Because once the children get here, who's taking care of them? | |
| Sure, the general mediatrics last year called for killing kids up to age three. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm not going to do it. | ||
| We have people who do that. | ||
| No, I'm for abortion. | ||
| I'm not for three-year-olds being killed. | ||
| I'm for abortion. | ||
| So you see, there's an interesting way that Alex is trying to dodge the question of, like, his support of abortion, or, you know, obviously opposition in this case. | ||
| And Howard keeps interjecting things that kind of force him to say, I'm against it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, he's trying to obfuscate and dodge around, like, I can see these arguments for blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And because of the way that Howard interviews, it forces Alex to... | ||
| Just directly say, I'm opposed to this. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there is an element of anybody else saying and talking to Alex this way would have seen a blow-up, would have seen a storm out, would have seen any number of reactions. | ||
| But the only reason that Howard can get away with this is because Alex is a star fucker, and Howard's a star. | ||
| He's desperate for Howard to see him as cool. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's why he's fine talking about how he was fucking as a kid and stuff, because he knows that'll impress Howard. | ||
| Howard's a really sexual dude, and so him being like, yeah, I fucked hot 15-year-olds when I was 12, that's going to impress Howard, and so he's fine with that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So here's the strategy for dealing with Alex and his ilk, alright? | ||
| Shock jocks. | ||
| We need to get famous people to bully him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, let's throw this out there, alright? | ||
| But it has to be the right kind of famous person. | ||
| Chris Hemsworth, yeah, it's not gonna be a Chris Hemsworth. | ||
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No. | |
| Who's it gotta be? | ||
| It has to be someone like Rogan, honestly. | ||
| Yeah, it is gonna have to be somebody like Rogan. | ||
| Yeah, Rogan's perfectly situated, actually, to be that. | ||
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Is Clint Eastwood still alive? | |
| He's frozen. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I bet he could bully Alex. | ||
| This could be a Mandela effect. | ||
| He might have died ten years ago, or he's still alive. | ||
| No idea. | ||
| These are very possible things. | ||
| He might have won an Oscar last year. | ||
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I have no idea. | |
| Also very possible. | ||
| So, um... | ||
| Alex, there's a couple things he just seems refusing to answer. | ||
| One was that acid thing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Another question that comes up in a clip that I didn't include was whether or not he's had sex with a black woman before. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Seems to not want to answer that question. | ||
| That's such a very strange question to not want to answer. | ||
| I mean, it's a weird question to ask, and it's a strange question to not want to answer. | ||
| It's not a weird question to ask in Howard's show. | ||
| No, in Howard's world, yeah, yeah, totally. | ||
| It's very well within the topics of conversation that come up on this shock jock shit. | ||
| So, um, whatever the case is, whatever's behind that, uh, he also doesn't want to really talk about aliens. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We have this guy Riley on it, you know, he believes in aliens. | ||
| Do you believe in aliens? | ||
| Do you believe that there is life on other planets? | ||
| How would I need a raise? | ||
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I can't do this. | |
| Can you hear a clip of him? | ||
| I can actually imitate him. | ||
| Can I hear one? | ||
| Uh, look at him. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Wait a second, Alex. | ||
| It's all too easy. | ||
| Do you believe in, uh, aliens? | ||
| Do you believe alien life forms were here? | ||
| When I left you, I was but the learner. | ||
| Now I am the master. | ||
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Hey, was your father a dentist? | |
| Alex, he is. | ||
| Is he proud of what you're doing, or does he think you're nuts? | ||
| My father... | ||
| Who's well-read in state history. | ||
| He said, yeah, you're right about a lot of this, but our government's not that bad, and it's going to be okay, and things will work out. | ||
| That was him 17 years ago. | ||
| Now he's like, oh my God, it's all real, it's horrible. | ||
| And what's really got him free... | ||
| He's less trusting now. | ||
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But Alex, are you really getting anything done? | |
| I just want to... | ||
| Listen, it doesn't mean I have all the answers. | ||
| I just want to get people thinking. | ||
| Yeah, man, I'm just a conversation starter. | ||
| So that doesn't sound anything like his dad based on his other... | ||
| Tellings of the story of his dad. | ||
| The smartest boy in Texas running away from the out-of-control evil government, then gets to around, I don't know, mid-30s, and he's like, eh, they're fine. | ||
| Everything's pretty great. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I have a lot of faith. | ||
| I trust this. | ||
| Our government is going to be pretty good. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then he gets radicalized by his crazy son. | ||
| Mid-60s, everybody's going to die. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't believe any of this. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But you see, there's such an interesting dynamic that's going on in that clip. | ||
| And that is that Howard's asking this question that Alex doesn't want to answer. | ||
| And so Alex starts deflecting with doing these voices. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Doing Darth Vader, James Earl Jones shit. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So then, Howard recognizes that and asks him an incredibly confrontational question. | ||
| Which is, is your dad proud of you? | ||
| That is such an interesting rollercoaster of how this interview is playing out. | ||
| I get the sense that Howard is probably not super thrilled with the way that Alex is deflecting from the question, and he's trying to jostle him back into the interview from the weird voices and shit. | ||
| He's trying to take away that performance element that Alex is doing in order to... | ||
| Take over the interview? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Power struggle shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I kind of got more the vibe from Alex that he just really wanted to do something good. | ||
| You know, he wanted to show off his little... | ||
| He's got a good voice. | ||
| There might be some voice bookers who are listening. | ||
| For all the deflecting that he was doing in the earlier questions, and I do think that he was deflecting to do this, in this case, I truly believe that the inspiration for it is... | ||
| God, I want to show off my James Earl Jones voice. | ||
| And I'll tell you why I believe that. | ||
| I know that feeling, man. | ||
| I know that feeling. | ||
| I think it can be both. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It is deflecting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the heart of it is I want somebody to tell me I'm a good boy. | ||
| It's deflecting, but this is an opportunity. | ||
| I've got to tell. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Alex's dad, he characterized him in that last clip a little bit weirdly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In ways that I don't think match up with other stories that he's told of his dad. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And so, this also does not match with the characterization that we know of Alex's dad's role in his career. | ||
| I was working my way through school and college. | ||
| I wasn't getting a lot of help from my parents, so I wanted to work on my own. | ||
| You thought he was a dentist and he didn't help you out for college? | ||
| He helped me out a little bit, but not much. | ||
| What is up with that? | ||
| That's awfully cruel. | ||
| I went into sales right away out of high school. | ||
| See, I mean, I was making good grades in college, but I was successful. | ||
| But the old man could have helped you. | ||
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And he was only going to community college. | |
| Yeah, I mean, it's not that expensive. | ||
| My dad did buy me a green Mustang on graduation. | ||
| He did. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, that's more important. | ||
| Well, that's something. | ||
| And he also bought an ad on your radio show that was what got you a radio show. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Dental practice bought an advertising time to justify you having a show. | ||
| Like, this is ridiculous. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm a self-made man. | ||
| My dad didn't do shit. | ||
| Every time I have heard a self-made man story. | ||
| Every single one of them. | ||
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Boy. | |
| But that's because they're kind of born... | ||
| The self-made man story is born... | ||
| Because of its non-existence, you know? | ||
| Like, the fact that you have to justify living in a place where you're so much more successful than other people, you can't just be like, well, this is the vagaries of life! | ||
| You have to be like, I've earned this behavior, otherwise I have to accept that I'm not really, there's no difference between me and everybody else, and this is all random. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So it's better to have the bootstrap story than be like, everything is chaos, nothing matters, everybody's going to go insane every moment now, you know? | ||
| I'd like to see you and Howard discuss that. | ||
| I think, I just, I find it fascinating the way that everything is so different with this family now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or in just different environments. | ||
| On his show, he would talk about how his family is in all these high-level intelligence shit, and they told him that the globalists are bad news, man. | ||
| They're bad news. | ||
| My uncle was involved in Iran-Contra. | ||
| Where's all this stuff in this interview? | ||
| Furthermore, isn't that a sort of help from your family? | ||
| You know, getting so much of this information solely through... | ||
| Well, yeah, obviously. | ||
| It's true, yes. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| In-universe, it's a huge help. | ||
| In-universe is a good way of putting it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So throughout this interview, I think Howard's been humoring Alex quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I really get the sense that he just thinks that this is entertainment. | ||
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One concern I have is when people just stir and stir and stir controversy, it really doesn't do anything. | |
| And if you really are serious about this stuff, you have to do something about it. | ||
| Look, he's doing a radio show. | ||
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So you believe he's just entertaining? | |
| I believe Alex believes what he believes in, but I think he also has the pressure of being an entertainer, and he has to keep coming up with stuff. | ||
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That's not my point. | |
| If it's true what he's saying, he's entertaining. | ||
| How would anyone know what's true? | ||
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What? | |
| He claims that he's researching. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Alex, let's take a couple of phone calls. | ||
| I love that to his face. | ||
| To his face is great. | ||
| He claims he's researching. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| That I like a lot. | ||
| I would like that opportunity. | ||
| And they're referring to him as he and talking about him while he's there. | ||
| To his face! | ||
| While he's there! | ||
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I think he's an entertainer and he just has to come up with stuff to be in there. | |
| Hey, Robin, aside, while that person's there, and this is the fucking radio! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he's a showman just trying to fuck with people. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's better than saying he's a fat-lined piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think at this point, too, there was not nearly the awareness of the damages, the danger that someone like Alex poses. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So there is... | ||
| A freedom that Howard feels and being able to just engage him with this is like, ah, he's a fucking, he's a joke weirdo saying all this nonsense on the radio for entertainment and I'm amused by it. | ||
| I enjoy watching him dance for me. | ||
| Yeah, that is pretty much it. | ||
| I don't think there's any way that Howard Stern is going to be taken in by Alex Jones. | ||
| I think his instincts are a little sharper than that. | ||
| I don't think you get to where Howard is the way you do without being able to read through some bullshit. | ||
| Oh my god, tell me all about this Dr. Steve Machinac character. | ||
| He claims he's researching. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| And I think that part of that is the showbiz instincts that Howard has. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Tell that Alex is putting on a show. | ||
| He's seen enough of Alex's clips and things to have an awareness. | ||
| Like, they were talking about it earlier. | ||
| Like, him crying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he's seen these things and he knows, like, alright, this guy is putting on an act. | ||
| Howard's somebody who's negotiated some of his own contracts. | ||
| He's seeing through bullshit. | ||
| And part of the bullshit that he's seeing through is that Alex has done all this research. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I find that interesting. | ||
| So they play that clip of Alex crying. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| To see what his thoughts are about it. | ||
| This is you crying, Alex. | ||
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Here you go. | |
| And then, last night, God just showed me so much and I couldn't even talk. | ||
| And I do not even feel worthy to be here bringing you this information. | ||
| And it just absolutely brought me to a place I've never been. | ||
| Where God just really says, you want to see the evil? | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| feel it and to feel what the children are feeling. | ||
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Donald, buddy. | |
| *coughing* | ||
| Alex, performance or real crime? | ||
| No, totally real. | ||
| Listen, listen, you know that Fleetwood Mac song? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah, here comes the crystal of visions. | ||
| My visions to myself? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Howard, you ever had a vision? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yeah, I have visions all the time. | ||
| It involved a threesome. | ||
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Wait a minute, wait a minute. | |
| You have visions all the time? | ||
| What is your vision, Alex? | ||
| What's the last one you had? | ||
| Well, I mean, no, what is a vision? | ||
| No, just incredible epiphanies times a hundred where you have amazing understanding, but also things open up, and it's called discernment, and then you, when you can actually study. | ||
| history and evil and also look into the spirit of evil and then look into what the spirit of evil is doing that is a vision and an understanding of the of the globalists and the snuff that happened to be on ayahuasca I've got to tell you, Alex, I've learned a lot this morning. | ||
| I do have to wrap things up because, you know, we do take breaks, but I've got to tell you. | ||
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Do you go to one of those big megachurches? | |
| No. | ||
| No, I don't go to church. | ||
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You don't go to church? | |
| Establishment BS. | ||
| Establishment BS. | ||
| I go to white identity preacher Tex Mars' place and hang out with him while he talks about how evil the Jews are and how minorities are ruining America. | ||
| That's my religion. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck it, asshole. | ||
| Yeah, what was it? | ||
| Wherever two or more of you gather in my name to shit all over non-white people, so I am there. | ||
| I'll see you there, Tex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I feel no better in terms of my awareness of what his visions are from that. | ||
| Seemed like just a bunch of words being rattled off. | ||
| Comedically, I appreciate a good while the crying is still going on in the background. | ||
| I like a good totally real, immediately followed by... | ||
| That was the fakest possible crying sound that he made in the whole thing. | ||
| Totally real. | ||
| Immediately after totally real. | ||
| Totally real. | ||
| At that point, you're like, maybe he's building up to something. | ||
| And then the first sob goes... | ||
| I pray that I never find myself in a situation where someone plays a video of me crying and has to ask, real or fake? | ||
| Is this an act or is this real? | ||
| Because I think I would have made a couple of mistakes along the way to get to that point. | ||
| I mean, you know, like, I guess if I was acting, and they were like, oh, is that fake? | ||
| Oh, like in a scene? | ||
| Yeah, that's about as close as it gets. | ||
| But even then, so is Alex. | ||
| Which is the problem. | ||
| Totally different conversation. | ||
| If you were in the Avengers Endgame or something, and you have a crying scene, which I assume they did, because a lot of people died, right? | ||
| Do they cry in the- Avengers? | ||
| I feel like somebody must have. | ||
| Eh, probably. | ||
| So you ask the actor, real tears? | ||
| Or fake? | ||
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Right. | |
| Did you get eye drops? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fine conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex, you're crying about the children on air. | ||
| Where on the level of fake tear are we? | ||
| Are we at like saline solution fake tears? | ||
| Or are we at Alex Jones complaining about what happens to children fake tears? | ||
| Based on what he described his visions as, it seems like that could just be like... | ||
| You read something in a book and then you had a thought about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not a vision. | ||
| I mean, is it possible? | ||
| Is it possible that Alex Jones only infrequently experiences the idea of images within your mind in response to a stimulus? | ||
| You know, like, when he reads, he doesn't imagine what is going on in the book. | ||
| He's just reading. | ||
| I find that difficult because he imagines so much else. | ||
| He imagines detectives trying to murder him when he goes to New York. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Anyway, we have one last clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Alex talks about his anti-vax conspiracy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And boy, it's different in 2013. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Let me just take one chilling point as we leave here. | ||
| In literally hundreds of white papers by MIT and others, when you want this, I'll send it to you. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| What they say they're going to do is they're going to, in vaccines, inject us. | ||
| With what they call an anti-stress or anti-drug use vaccine, but they're not even going to tell you. | ||
| And if you look this up, they go, a new vaccine, this is three years ago, is going to cure, and this is where it's all going, is going to cure stress. | ||
| But they're not really vaccines. | ||
| They're genetically engineered nanotech viruses that go in and eat selective ganglia and neuron clusters in the cerebral cortex and other areas, which are a selective lobotomy where you will be able And we have evidence they're already testing this on the military and others. | ||
| So soon, if we don't turn this around, the plan, you're hearing the ultimate secret here, is to add to flu vaccines and other things. | ||
| Did you take the flu vaccine? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| You would never take it? | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you get your kids vaccinated? | ||
| No. | ||
| Never. | ||
| No vaccines whatsoever. | ||
| And that's what's spreading the flu. | ||
| It actually doubles your chances of getting the flu to get the flu vaccine. | ||
| Do you give your kids the polio vaccine? | ||
| None of it. | ||
| None! | ||
| So why wouldn't they just put that in the COVID vaccine? | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, he said they're going to add it to the flu vaccine. | ||
| So why did he just drop this entire threat? | ||
| This is supposed to be the big plan. | ||
| This is what the globalists are up to a decade ago. | ||
| Did they just drop this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess they did. | ||
| I guess Alex just lost his interest in this conspiracy. | ||
| Or maybe it was more profitable to go other directions. | ||
| Hashtag Alex Jones was forgot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones lost the thread. | ||
| Yeah, I just, I find that to be, you know, just annoying. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| There's no reason, there's no reason to, like, and it's so weird to listen to it through Howard Stern. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And his reactions to it as well. | ||
| Is it because it does make sense? | ||
| Where we are with all that we've done in the past six years, it does make sense to go back, listen to this, and go, oh, all you do need to do is go look at this asshole and then walk away. | ||
| He's a crazy... | ||
| Listen to this shit. | ||
| Listen to this shit! | ||
| Robin's listening to this shit! | ||
| She's like, fuck this shit! | ||
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But he's so much worse. | |
| How is it possible that that is... | ||
| It's so fucking weird. | ||
| It's like a little lantern fish with a little thing that sticks up, and that's what the rest of us see. | ||
| I think that if Alex had gone on Stern more regularly and been exposed more to Stern's variety of questioning... | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think it would have penetrated some holes in him, in his presentation. | ||
| More than Piers Morgan or The View or anything along those lines. | ||
| Yeah, questions like these tears, this real or performance. | ||
| Lines like, yeah, whatever, to the idea of him researching. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that Stern would be able to puncture some of Alex's illusion. | ||
| And instead, he went on places regularly, like Coast to Coast AM, where his bullshit was amplified, and people like George Norrie was like, it's all legs! | ||
| Like, that kind of level of interviewing. | ||
| And I think that that did a disservice, and, you know, really... | ||
| I don't know, you could have... | ||
| You could have stigmatized Alex a little more if he was on Stern more. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Well, that's kind of part of why I mean that little lanternfish idea. | ||
| All that popped up into the consciousness was that tiny little, oh look, it's a cute little, oh, that's fun! | ||
| And it would have been so easy for just by accident too much to appear and then everybody goes, ah! | ||
| And that's the end for him, you know? | ||
| And it just didn't happen. | ||
| And it's a complicated thing, too, because I think that you do have an element of humanizing Alex and softening his image by way of an interview like this. | ||
| Stern is being like, he's fun. | ||
| He's interesting. | ||
| But I think that when it's in an environment like Rogan, he is inept at pushing back on the things that Alex says. | ||
| Whereas Stern... | ||
| Is more willing to push back. | ||
| You know, you even hear it in that last clip. | ||
| He's pushing back about the vaccines. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He won't even get your kids vaccinated for polio? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, isn't that ridiculous? | ||
| Isn't that an inappropriate thing to do? | ||
| And Stern is willing to, like, stand by his positions that are different than Alex. | ||
| That, like, abortion is right. | ||
| People should have access to abortion. | ||
| He believes in gay marriage. | ||
| You know, these are... | ||
| Things that Alex wouldn't be able to walk over him on. | ||
| No. | ||
| Whereas with Rogan, he has no spine. | ||
| Man, that is so weird. | ||
| It is real weird to stop and think about all the people that have come close to Alex and then be like, you know, not many had spines. | ||
| Howard Stern won. | ||
| Everybody you would expect zero, unfortunately. | ||
| I think Stern sucks in a lot of other ways. | ||
| Yeah, in so many different ways. | ||
| I think this show is often very difficult to listen to for the constant talk over each other. | ||
| I find it boring. | ||
| But yeah, in terms of an interview style that counters Alex pretty decently, I think this is one of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And like we've already mentioned, I think part of it also relies heavily on the ideal... | ||
| The hero worshipping of Stern that Alex clearly has done as a younger man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if this is helpful at all, but I thought it was interesting, the glimpse of this. | ||
| I particularly think the way that Alex is characterizing his dad being so completely off the mark from other places where he talks about him. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The fantasies of Mike Bloomberg trying to kill him and then him being like, I over blew that. | ||
| Yeah, that didn't happen. | ||
| I made that up in my head. | ||
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I had a flu. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, by the way, won't get vaccinated. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, because he makes you more likely to get vaccinated. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I know that because I had the flu. | ||
| Right. | ||
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What? | |
| Imagine I would have had double flu. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Then I would have seen so many of Bloomberg's agents. | ||
| Too many. | ||
| Too many. | ||
| So we'll be back. | ||
| Maybe Alex will be back in studio. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe I'll find something in 2004 worth discussing. | ||
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Could be. | |
| Who knows? | ||
| But for now, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| And alexjonesisanidiot.com. | ||
| And alexjonesisanidiot.com. | ||
| And we're also on Twitter. | ||
| And we are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| And we've got a sub stack. | ||
| There's a link on the Alex Jones is an idiot. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| Eventually, one day, your grandchildren will look upon this spot. | ||
| And there might be a bit here. | ||
| But for now... | ||
| Your progeny will have to tell you through ethereal connections that we have with our ancestors once you are long dead and gone. | ||
| Whether or not a bit will fill this space, for now there is nothing. | ||
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And now here comes the sex robot. | |
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |