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Nov. 3, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#866: November 1, 2023

In this installment, Dan and Jordan witness a tornado.  Alex begins conflicted about his place in the right-wing propaganist scene but vows to never quit until God tells him he can, only to quit less than two hours later.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
31:37
d
dan friesen
52:38
j
jordan holmes
32:23
Appearances
e
elon musk
01:43
j
joe rogan
02:23
Clips
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
College fight.
Need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is actually kind of a big one.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
And that is my work on a project is done.
jordan holmes
Yes, it is.
dan friesen
I've been laboring in the lab, much like the singer of The Monster Mash, late at night.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Sitting in my lab, working on this.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And so the book project of Alex's book is done.
Now...
We will be revealing that on Monday.
That will be on Monday, because there's still a little bit of editing tweets that I need to make sure and everything.
So I don't want to make everything fully public right now.
But it's a huge weight off my shoulders in terms of just like, is this ever going to be done?
Do you feel like you're walking through molasses when you have a project going like that?
And you're trying to also keep up the show itself.
I think that there's something to be said for, and I'm not perfect about this all the time, so I don't want to give anyone that conception, but there's something so much to be said for just keep going.
Just keep on moving, and you'll make the progress that you need to make as you go.
Now, there is one thing I will say publicly now.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
There are two prongs of this project that are new things.
One is that book thing.
Like I said, Talk about that on Monday.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Second thing, I have a substack.
unidentified
Yes, you do.
dan friesen
I've not announced this publicly yet, so might as well throw this out there.
I have started a substack that is free.
Obviously, I've never charged anything for this shit.
But I have a number of insights into Alex Jones and the business and all this stuff.
And I will be discussing some of them there.
Yeah.
Honestly, here's what happened.
I realized that Substack sounded a lot like Stackies.
And I realized that Alex has those stacks of paper, and I thought that wordplay was really funny.
And so I tried to get Substackies at Substack.
I thought, like, if I could get that name...
jordan holmes
It'd be great.
dan friesen
That would be so fun.
jordan holmes
It would be great.
dan friesen
Unavailable.
jordan holmes
Ah, naturally.
dan friesen
However, I did get Stackies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I got Stackies.Substack.com.
And so that's there.
jordan holmes
Not for nothing, there was a part of me that was unsurprised that you gave me the name of your Substack long before you had anything written for it.
dan friesen
I wanted to sit on it as soon as I had the idea for the name.
jordan holmes
Sure, exactly.
dan friesen
And then I wanted to sort of feel out how the thing even works, like how posting something there works and all that.
There's one post that is up there now, so if people want to check that out and subscribe, they can do that.
I don't know exactly what the frequency of posting on that will be.
But there will be some content there periodically.
Anyway, I'm excited that a bit of this that has been sort of cooking in the background.
And, you know, we had a couple of Wednesdays where I would have liked to have a Sneaky Snake episode.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I couldn't because, you know, I'm trying to get a lot of these ducks in a row.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I didn't want to talk about it too much because that's the enemy of getting something done.
jordan holmes
Oh, it can be.
dan friesen
And so I'm just thrilled to be on the other side.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's good.
It's fine that we can finally stop doing those interviews.
I'm good being done with them.
You're finished with the book project.
No, because there's another project that comes up with.
God damn it!
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the new mission of destroying Alex Jones' career and everything that he's done, I mean, we are not done after one book.
He's got another book that just came out.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, he does not.
dan friesen
Yes, he's got The Great Awakening.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
And, look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a lot of other things he's done.
There's other documentaries.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's the culmination of his life's work.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
There's so many things that need to be addressed.
jordan holmes
At this point, genuinely, all of everybody's nonviolence aside, I think I would rather you killed me than did this to my career.
Just kill me, man.
Just fucking stab me in the throat so I'll be fine.
Now you're coming after my documentaries?
dan friesen
What next?
Oh, I thought you meant literally you as Jordan.
unidentified
Your career.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Oh, no, absolutely.
That never began and it will never end.
dan friesen
I do think that there is something that is false.
Far more threatening in trying to deconstruct and ruin someone's legacy.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Just not while I'm alive.
You know?
Just fucking, come on!
Wait until I'm dead!
dan friesen
And no one deserves it more than one Alex Emmerich Jones.
jordan holmes
What I want is to not experience consequences for the horrible things that I've done.
And I just feel like you're not letting me get away with that.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the downside of it for me and even for how you're putting it is this isn't really a consequence.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You know, I don't kid myself into thinking there will be, like, actual real-life intersection of, like, this is going to ruin him or anything.
But the information will be there, centralized and available.
And, you know, whatever impact that makes is what impact it makes.
It's not up to me to determine that.
It's up to me to determine...
Getting it done.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I think any opportunity for Alex to shake his fist once more in the sky and say, Dan did what now?
I think that'd be great.
I think that's always enjoyable.
dan friesen
It's fun to think about.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is there's a new season of What It Happened Was, which is the podcast that Open Mic Eagle does.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And it started this, and it is with...
Questlove, and they're covering the beginning of the Roots career.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Out in Philly.
jordan holmes
It could not be more like catnip to me specifically.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
Like, open Mike Eagle, one of my favorites.
Questlove.
My all-time drumming hero.
All of this.
And esoteric, nerdy music trivia from people who care way more about weirdo jazz bands than you can imagine.
That's my shit, man!
That's my stuff!
dan friesen
I can't imagine what the making of Illidelph Half-Life was like.
jordan holmes
I haven't even gotten there yet.
We're still on organics.
Four episodes still on organics, man.
dan friesen
Are they going to talk at all about whether they have any feelings?
about Jedi Mind Tricks.
Another Philadelphia-based...
unidentified
They haven't said anything yet, but there's been a lot of...
jordan holmes
If you're looking for geographical product placement, it's there.
dan friesen
Sure.
Cheese steak talk.
jordan holmes
Not necessarily that, but people I came up with in Philly kind of talk.
dan friesen
We were rapping around the Liberty Bell, Love Park.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, you know, he went to performing arts school that was essentially fame.
dan friesen
Well, I don't think that there would have been a lot of overlap between The Roots and...
I think they would have been quite separate in terms of one being kind of jazz-influenced, backpack-ish kind of rap, and then the other being somewhat violent, horror-core, esoteric Muslim rap.
jordan holmes
All right.
There are small differences.
dan friesen
And especially that early Jedi Mind Trick stuff.
A lot of that stuff is tough to go back and listen to.
There's a lot of...
Very socially unevolved positions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, interesting stories that I hadn't even remembered.
dan friesen
Who else is from Philly?
jordan holmes
Who else is from Philly?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Will Smith.
dan friesen
Sure.
As a rapper?
He came up in the Philly scene?
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
That makes sense?
jordan holmes
That was just too...
dan friesen
It was unavoidable.
jordan holmes
It was right there.
I couldn't not do it.
Yeah, of course.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know either.
jordan holmes
I don't know who's...
I'm not a Philly...
Why would I know?
I don't rep Philly.
dan friesen
My old roommate was from Philly.
And I know that because we talk about it a lot.
jordan holmes
We talk about it a lot.
It's a lot about Philly.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
People from Philly are like that.
They love talking about being from Philly.
jordan holmes
People from most places love talking about being from where they're from.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
Unless you're from the Chicago suburbs, in which case you like to talk about being from Chicago.
dan friesen
Hey, that's right.
That is right.
I was going to say that's not true, but I've brought up being from Missouri a fair amount.
jordan holmes
It happens.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm glad you're enjoying that podcast.
jordan holmes
It's great.
For you with Doughboys, for me, that's open mic eagle.
dan friesen
That sounds like something I really want to listen to all at once.
I'd like to binge that once it's done.
I think I'd be infuriated by waiting for episodes.
jordan holmes
I listened to four in a row, and then the end of it came, and it is literally like, no, you continue telling me the story of your career until I say you're done, Questlove.
dan friesen
Yeah, I had the same thing with Connor.
Ratliff's Dead Eyes podcast.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I, like, binged through it, and then I got to, like, he wasn't finished with the season that he was in.
I'm like, no.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You have failed me.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What the fuck, man?
Come on.
I can't imagine trying to read a serialized novel, like, in the 1930s or whatever, when they'd publish them once a month.
Insane.
unidentified
Insane.
dan friesen
It's bad enough now with, like, Survivor.
I watched all of those seasons, and then now it comes out once a week.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why?
jordan holmes
Quit.
Quit!
dan friesen
Stop it.
Anyway, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about November 1st, 2023.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
That is the day after Halloween.
Did you have a good Halloween?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Did you get dressed up?
jordan holmes
My wife went to school as Bowie during the Ziggy Stardust era.
dan friesen
Fun.
Little face lighting bolt kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Had the hair, had the lighting bolt.
Looked great.
dan friesen
Wonderful.
jordan holmes
So tired, fell asleep.
dan friesen
Did you go to the school too?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I thought maybe you'd attend and be supportive.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Not a chance.
dan friesen
Scare the kids.
jordan holmes
Just go to a school on Halloween to be supportive.
I don't know.
Enrich the kid's life.
unidentified
With what?
dan friesen
You're a public figure.
jordan holmes
Me?
Oh, good heavens.
Good heavens.
Sir.
Sir, have some decency.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I just sat around the house.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me too.
dan friesen
I had a dark moment that I didn't have any candy.
And I didn't want to run to the store.
And I sincerely thought about knocking on the neighbor's door.
Because I'm like, look, we're all adults here.
I don't have any candy.
jordan holmes
Can you share some of your candy with me?
dan friesen
Can I bother you for some candy?
jordan holmes
Can I have some candy?
dan friesen
I decided not to do that.
But I was really close.
jordan holmes
Is there a difference between asking, like, as an adult, could you knock on somebody's door and be like, listen.
I am not trick-or-treating.
dan friesen
Right.
I just know you have candy.
jordan holmes
I am telling you that you have candy right now, and I would like some of that candy.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're giving it away.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is not associated with the holiday.
This is an adult.
dan friesen
I'm not trying to pretend I'm trick-or-treating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, would it be more comfortable if I threatened you for the candy?
dan friesen
I think socially it would make more sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, hey, I'll punch you if you don't give me some candy.
And then you're like, yeah, well, that's fine.
dan friesen
Because then that's in the spirit of Halloween.
jordan holmes
That's in the spirit of Halloween.
dan friesen
Horror movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Give me the knife.
I've come for your candy.
Something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Instead of just hat in hand asking for, can I bother you for a Snickers?
jordan holmes
I don't think we'd be good in a suburb neighborhood.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
So we're getting down to business on this episode.
But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, this is a questionable use.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, chonk honk bonk wonk.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, dedicated to my friend Des, introduced me to Knowledge Fight.
I'm rooting for you, dude.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, hey mom, it's Kat.
Happy to share this podcast addiction with you.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Gotta love that intergenerational podcast connection.
It's always weird.
And Dakota V. Adams, ex-son of Stuart Rhodes, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
We got him.
dan friesen
I believe I saw a message from Dakota.
I thought that was very cool.
It's very interesting, the intersection of like, oh, we've been...
Talking shit about steroids for a long time.
jordan holmes
It is one of the stranger, yeah.
dan friesen
But very cool.
jordan holmes
It's very cool.
dan friesen
And you're now a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
We also had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to DJ Dan Arkey as a snack.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
Thank you so much.
unidentified
That was from DJ Danarchy?
jordan holmes
No, in the message it was from DJ Danarchy's girlfriend.
She was like, oh, he says nice things about you all the time.
And it wasn't until you read it just then that I was like...
That didn't have to be a real thing.
That could have been anybody.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Why did I just assume that that's a totally true thing?
jordan holmes
But whatever.
Fine.
dan friesen
Wait, wait.
So it may or may not have been DJ Danarchy.
jordan holmes
I mean, I assume it's her girlfriend, but now that the internet is what it is, man, who knows?
Somebody could just be making up this whole...
dan friesen
So someone's pretending to be in a relationship with DJ Danarchy to convince you to say something nice about it.
jordan holmes
How can you not believe that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, Snack City.
So, Jordan, we start off today, November 1st.
Okay.
And Alex has a claim here that, honestly, I don't know even how I would go about rebutting this.
alex jones
Incredible developments in Israel.
The FBI issuing terror alerts at their highest level for imminent Islamic jihad attacks here inside the United States.
Assassinations they said have been successful against U.S. officials.
It's been kept secret.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
alex jones
What does all that really mean?
jordan holmes
Yes, please.
alex jones
So you'll get next month's news today here.
At least a very good prime projection on the future.
dan friesen
Okay, so there are secret assassinations that have been carried out against U.S. officials on U.S. soil.
jordan holmes
Right.
That has to mean that there are people who are dead.
unidentified
Who?
jordan holmes
Who are being weekend at Bernie's in some fashion while we keep the secret under wraps.
Because you can't have...
It can't just be like, oh, we haven't heard from them for a week.
Did they go on vacation?
No, that's not how it works anymore.
dan friesen
See, now you've introduced an element of this that I wasn't sure was in it.
I didn't know if we had fake people walking around.
I thought it was just people who are so down the line of officialdom that no one really notices.
jordan holmes
Here's what I'll say.
dan friesen
That's not even true.
If an alderman gets killed, it makes the news.
jordan holmes
An assassination is an assassination.
They're rare.
dan friesen
If the dog catcher, the elected dog catcher of the city gets assassinated, someone's going to hear about it.
jordan holmes
So that means that they've got to have...
Come up with a cover for them to be missing for a while.
And while there may not be people walking around, there's got to be somebody on the phones, you know, like sending text messages to friends and family.
Like, I'm totally okay and I was not murdered by the government yesterday.
dan friesen
I was wondering.
I actually read a white paper recently that Iran was getting deep into cloning.
I think we might have figured out why.
jordan holmes
God, I'm telling you, I'm way in on cloning.
Every ethical question people have ever had, I say, no thank you.
More cloning.
Owning is the answer.
dan friesen
It certainly would make things more confusing.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm all about!
dan friesen
So, um, we do not learn more about this later.
I'm not surprised.
So, I don't know what to do with it.
jordan holmes
I mean, just name one.
You should have to name at least one official that was fake assassinated, right?
dan friesen
And, I think you should be deeply ashamed of yourself if you're a journalist and you're talking about secrets.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're just like, just imagine anybody else being like, wow, there's a lot of secret stuff.
Any other news channel.
Go fuck yourself.
So here's what the actual news of the day is that takes up most of Alex's coverage, and that is that Elon Musk went back on Rogan.
alex jones
Sure.
Now, that said, let me first get into Elon Musk and his Joe Rogan interview yesterday from just a few miles from where I sit in Joe's studio.
I know a lot of inside baseball, but if I tell you the stuff that I know...
Even though a lot of it's been told to mean not off-record, then it's going to be, oh, that's off-record, why'd you talk about that?
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And I don't want to talk about this stuff today to try to impress people.
I want to do it so people get the big picture and understand the battlefield of the mind worldwide and what's going on, the different factions in the globalist system and in the other factions that are there as well.
But I'm on record, and let's have the archivist pull it.
About three years ago, saying Joe Rogan's going to take the gloves off and phase into being Alex Jones, 2.0.
And starting about two years ago, I said, look for Elon Musk to make that turn as well.
And what I was told, and I'm not going to say by who, is you've taken on the demonization, the attacks, so every time you raise important issues, it's covered up by the media with the false straw man they've built.
But hold my beer.
We'll do a better job than you've done.
dan friesen
We got this, Alex.
We're going to take it, and we're going to take the ball, and we're going to run with it.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Musk was on Rogan, and this is an opportunity for Alex to tell tales out of school about conversations that may or may not have happened, where Joe has assured him that I will finish your work.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Man, you know, you're too shadowbanned, man.
jordan holmes
I hadn't even considered it, really.
Like, I hadn't deeply thought about it.
But can you imagine if A Christmas Carol hadn't been written and Dickens got a hold of Musk?
You know, like, none of this Scrooge bullshit.
We're just dealing directly with...
He'd just be like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
He's literally from South Africa?
No, he was not an animal.
Are you shitting me?
dan friesen
Ghost of Christmas Past is dark.
jordan holmes
It is dark, man.
That is crazy.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
dan friesen
And I don't know if Musk would see the light at the end of that.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely not.
dan friesen
He would not go over to his nephew's house for Christmas and give Bob Cratchit a raise.
jordan holmes
That is interesting.
Now, are we so far cynical at this point that the end of Christmas Carol, everybody would be like, and then he goes back to fucking people over for no reason.
dan friesen
Because that's what capitalism demands.
jordan holmes
God bless America!
dan friesen
The free market insists that you do not save Tiny Tim.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
dan friesen
In fact, it is a violation of first libertarian principles to care about Bob Cratchit.
jordan holmes
We really need a libertarian conservative Christmas Carol.
dan friesen
I'm certain some kind of satire like that exists.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't want a satire.
I want a complete, full-throated, sincere PragerU version of a Christmas Carol where Scrooge is the good guy.
dan friesen
I want it.
I haven't looked into this.
But I guarantee if I were just to search for In Defense of Screws or something like that, a hundred essays from the Von Mies Institute would come up.
jordan holmes
They can't help themselves.
That's just what they want.
dan friesen
So Joe's going to finish Alex's work.
That's basically where we're at at the beginning here.
alex jones
You can then ask yourself, why are extremely powerful individuals becoming Alex Jones on air?
I mean, word for word, these are scripts.
Transcripts of me, word for word, come out of Joe Rogan's mouth and out of Elon's mouth.
And what I've been told has been very thinly couched, but literally, you've done a good job, now you just hold my beer.
Let us handle this.
And I wasn't told, don't tell people that.
But at the same time, I'm not going to get into the specifics of who said it.
I think you can use your imagination.
It's not very hard.
But then I asked myself, well, who are these guys really working for?
Because I know Joe well.
I hang out with him quite a bit.
Anytime I want to hang out, he's like, hey, let's get dinner this week.
Sure, how about tonight?
Is that a comedy club?
But Joe, in the last few years, went from, yeah, sure, it's that bad, to like...
Yeah, they're coming to kill everybody.
We're going to stop them and just don't worry.
I'm on it.
And then I'm going to leave it at that.
I've had some meetings with Joe and some other people.
But it's all just more like, okay, old dog, here's your medal.
Now go over here because we're going to take over.
dan friesen
Again, that is condescending.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very condescending.
dan friesen
And also, the hold my beer thing is usually like something getting worse.
That's what the meme is.
Kind of like, 2020 was bad, 2021 says hold my beer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The conception being, by you drinking the beer, you have the confidence to say, aha, I shall do a far better job.
The also reality of the beer is, though, you will fail at doing a better job.
dan friesen
That's not entirely how I understand the meme, but we all look through different rose-colored darkly glasses.
So also, I love the idea of Rogan calling Alex old dog.
jordan holmes
That is so strange.
dan friesen
It is, because Alex is, what, 49?
jordan holmes
I was going to say, they're the same age.
dan friesen
Joe is 56. Joe is seven years older than him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, at most.
dan friesen
Also, what a bummer.
Oh, this is not the time to body shame or anything like that.
But Alex shaved his beard and he looks like shit.
jordan holmes
Well, that'll happen.
dan friesen
It's very troubling.
jordan holmes
You just don't go.
You know, everybody, the worst you do is the Statham, right?
You go with the universal scruff.
Everything's a little bit there.
dan friesen
That's the worst?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you never go full.
dan friesen
Statham looks great.
jordan holmes
Right, that's what I'm saying.
But you never go like Mr. Clean.
dan friesen
I will say, and this is difficult, because I am on record as saying Alex looked like shit with a beard.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Early on.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But I got used to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now with clean shaven is upsetting.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
But that's how it is.
That's how it is when you get used to somebody's face a certain way.
You just can't look at them.
jordan holmes
Life has changed.
dan friesen
And boy, can't look at them.
jordan holmes
Can't look at them.
dan friesen
No.
Anyway, Alex, he woke up a lot of creeps.
That's basically what we've determined.
unidentified
Happy Halloween.
alex jones
And if they start having huge success and we back the globalists off, I'm gone.
I'm retiring the minute that happens.
I mean, maybe it's true.
Maybe it's time for me to hang it up.
dan friesen
Maybe.
alex jones
And I'm not even saying all this to go, oh, look, I get the credit.
It's our audience gets the credit.
It's our guests.
It's everything we've done.
And I've just about, you know, beat myself to death over the years, taking on all this and going through all this and really eat, drink, and sleeping this.
And then there's the larger discussion of what does it do when everybody from Russell Brand to Joe Rogan to Tucker Carlson to Elon Musk to Joe Rogan to Nigel Farage are now literally sounding like me.
And many of those people have told me, no, you woke me up.
You help me understand how this all works.
You red-pilled me.
I mean, Russell Brands told me that.
Joe Rogan's told me that.
Tucker Carlson told me that.
The list goes on and on.
But because I took the brunt of the attacks and the demonization, like they were invading a country.
I mean, it was like thousands of articles a day, some days, hundreds a week always.
Nightly news, sometimes every nightly channel.
Local channels.
dan friesen
Multiple podcasts.
alex jones
Local newspapers all over the country, all over the world.
Alex Jones is Satan.
What was it I was doing that scared the establishment so much that they did all that?
I'm going to explain that today because knowing the answer to that gives you the answer to how we defeat the New World Order.
dan friesen
Rosetta Stone, as Alex might say.
unidentified
Ah, okay.
dan friesen
So the press never covered Alex as much as he's claiming.
In the last few years, because of the Sandy Hook cases, there have been more articles generally when something happens in one of the cases, like him losing a billion dollars.
Pretty newsworthy.
But he's never been the focus like he claims to be.
This is just a strategy.
You exaggerate the level of attack you're under because negative consequences equal virtue for Alex.
If he's having a million people tell him he's a piece of shit, the only reason that could possibly be happening is if the globalists told them all to do it because he's such a threat to their plans.
Also, that's a shitty list of people that Alex has woken up.
He lists six people, and that includes Rogan twice.
And he has such a hard time coming up with other examples, he has to throw in Nigel Farage.
Why didn't he throw in something like Nick Fuentes or Stu Peters?
Marjorie Taylor Greene could have been in there.
Some of the really unhinged conspiracy shitheads were on the scene.
They were pilled by Alex, too.
He shouldn't be selling himself short.
He did a lot of damage to a lot of people's brains.
jordan holmes
Right, right, but he doesn't like people who came after him.
dan friesen
But the people like Rogan came after him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
People like Tucker came after him.
jordan holmes
And Tucker was there when he was coming up.
dan friesen
He hated Tucker originally.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Tucker was there when they were coming up.
Tucker was still on TV at the time.
Look, Nick Fuentes just reminds Alex that he's going to die someday.
dan friesen
Maybe he was.
jordan holmes
I think he was.
Tucker?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I know.
He was around when I was in high school, so at least early thousands.
dan friesen
I know that he had commentary about 9-11 and the Iraq War, so he was around then.
jordan holmes
He had shit to say whenever he should have been quiet.
dan friesen
He was working for William F. Buckley at some point or something.
So the latest news about Nigel Farage came out in The Guardian a couple days ago, where he's reportedly, quote, giving serious, very serious consideration to going on, I'm a celebrity, get me out of here.
I'm sorry?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's thinking about it.
jordan holmes
Why is this real?
dan friesen
He can do that because he retired from government in 2021.
Since then, he's made a cameo account where people keep trolling him into saying Irish Republican slogans.
unidentified
That's fun.
dan friesen
And then he launched his own brand of gin, which got him in trouble because he said it was made in Cornwall, but The Guardian asked a bunch of distillers working there if they were involved, and they all said, absolutely not.
Most people were pissed because Brexit was particularly hard on Cornwall, and they didn't really appreciate the...
The guy who's the biggest supporter of that is now exploiting their county for the sake of selling his vanity booze.
jordan holmes
Could not be more right on brand.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I think Alex thinks that Farage is still in government because he hasn't checked in on him in a while.
But that name is one that Alex is used to, like, throwing into his list of new Alex Joneses.
And so it's just muscle memory.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
Actually, you know what?
I support this.
Go on the show.
And in fact, I say we get rid of lobbying.
The problem is the politician to lobbying pipeline, right?
That's where we go real wrong.
dan friesen
Well, he's lobbying for his own brand of gin.
jordan holmes
Once you're out of office, you can only do reality shows where you have to debase yourself for my entertainment.
I think that's the way to do it.
I can't punish you for all the war crimes.
But you can debase yourself for my enjoyment, and you have to because you're addicted to the attention.
dan friesen
But you have to also think about the other way that this makes sort of a mockery of these people's actual political careers.
Like, not a mockery in a good way.
Like, in a way that's humanizing.
Like, Sean Spicer going on Dancing with the Stars, or Rudy Giuliani being on The Masked Singer.
You know, like, these kinds of things are, like...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They're humanizing in a way.
jordan holmes
But if we all knew already that everyone was going to eventually be on super sloppy wipeout politician version, I would vote differently.
dan friesen
Here's the two things I would do.
Politicians that are disgraced can go on hole in a wall.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's always fun.
Always fun.
dan friesen
Or fear factor, so they have to eat bugs.
jordan holmes
You have to eat the bugs.
You have to eat the bugs.
dan friesen
While Rogan yells at you.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex has a metaphor about himself and Infowars, and that is that they are the blasting cap on the bullet of liberty.
jordan holmes
Okay, calm it down.
dan friesen
There's a lot of really annoying shit that we have to get through, but there's a payoff.
There'll be a payoff.
alex jones
You need to then understand why they hate me so much, because they can accurately track it back to this broadcast.
That means the listeners, the guests, the crew, the special reports, the documentaries.
This operation was like the cap.
On the back of a bullet casing, you've got the casing, you know, the cartridge, you've got the cap that's hit by the firing pin that detonates, creates a spark of fire, and then hits the white powder.
jordan holmes
You're not really explaining this to me, are you?
alex jones
And detonates the gunpowder with a controlled explosion, shooting the bullet down the barrel, through the rifling, and out the end of the handgun or rifle.
So Infowars...
Was the detonator.
The G. Edward Griffins and the Russos of the world.
dan friesen
Oof, couldn't remember Aaron.
alex jones
Oof.
All those countless patriots that came before us, the Ted Gundersons, they were the firing pin.
And of course, humanity and our spirit and connection to God is the entire rifle.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Pick a simpler machine for this metaphor.
alex jones
But InfoWars is the detonator.
We are the detonator.
We detonated the giant pile of fuel, of TNT, that is now the Great Awakening.
dan friesen
I find that sometimes when you come up with a metaphor that you like, you can tend to...
Expand it out.
Like, there was no reason to involve, like, what is the gun itself?
jordan holmes
I mean, I didn't need that at all.
dan friesen
I think the blasting cap, we have caused an explosion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that enough is fine.
jordan holmes
It is the end of your point.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We are the explosion that radicalized a ton of people, which is the launching of the bullet.
jordan holmes
Everything else is wasting time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everything else is wasting time.
dan friesen
Yeah, more or less.
Yeah.
That's what he does.
He kills time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
With a bullet.
jordan holmes
That is well.
That is true.
dan friesen
So, you might notice that Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, these people are all like, we love Alex.
We're saying the same things as him.
Hold my beer, old dog.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But they're not...
Actually saying anything about Alex and they don't seem to like him and they don't publicly associate with him?
jordan holmes
No, that's also very true.
dan friesen
So Alex has to rationalize that a little bit.
jordan holmes
That's a good thing to do because I keep noticing it.
dan friesen
Yeah, but does he do it well?
unidentified
We'll find out.
alex jones
I'm not looking for an exit.
I'm not here saying I'm going to quit.
dan friesen
At least not for an hour.
jordan holmes
Until I'm sad.
Until tomorrow.
dan friesen
Which happens at about an hour.
alex jones
He also left a request in the wind while the guys that didn't have to Take the first brunt of the assault.
Walk away and take on the globalists.
And they're getting attacked.
They got criminal investigations of Musk and giant boycotts run by the ADL and others.
And he's definitely in the fight and under attack.
I'm not taking away from that.
It's just surreal to be left twisting in the wind by all these heavy hitters.
I mean, Tucker supports me.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Russell Brand said nice things.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
Skip the break.
You know, Joe Rogan says nice things about me.
jordan holmes
Skip the break so I can talk about how people are nice to me sometimes.
alex jones
But, you know, you got so much baggage.
It's more effective if I just do it.
Which I told you he was going to do it.
That guy's soft.
He's not going to do it.
No, he's doing it now.
I mean, he's tearing them up.
And they're coming after him.
Don't worry.
So I'm not even complaining here.
I'm just giving you a...
Status report.
dan friesen
Of how complainy I am.
jordan holmes
I mean, that is the definition of what he's doing.
dan friesen
You know, it's weird to be just here left out dangling in the wind when all of the people who I'm their hero are out there battling the globalists.
jordan holmes
And I would even go so far as to say listing the people who have said nice things about you is, in effect, a complaint in absentia.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Sure.
Why won't they do more?
jordan holmes
Yeah, what you're doing is you're talking about what they're not doing.
dan friesen
They give you lip service.
jordan holmes
By talking about what they did.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, if this is his posse, I am not afraid of them.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Russell Brand, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
dan friesen
That is...
I don't care.
jordan holmes
The amount of reward for lack of talent there is unrivaled.
dan friesen
A lot of ostensible power.
Among those people.
Some more than others.
But also thin ice, flimsy credibility, flimsy position in any kind of space, I think.
I think all of them have pretty tenuous holds on that power that they theoretically wield.
jordan holmes
I think all of them should look at themselves and then think, why is it that in this list I feel like Joe Rogan is lying the least out of all of us?
That's weird.
unidentified
Well, here's the thing with Joe.
jordan holmes
At the very least, Joe could punch me in the face until I die.
And he'd be really good at it.
dan friesen
There is that.
That's because he eats raw meat all the time.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't say that's why, but it could be.
dan friesen
It's part of it.
Joe is not somebody who's just asking questions.
But he does ask questions more than the rest of these people.
jordan holmes
That's true.
He does not just ask questions.
But he does ask questions.
And he does not know the answers to those questions.
dan friesen
He gives the appearance of just asking questions better than a lot of the other people who pretend to just ask questions.
And I think that's what makes him like...
Somewhat more palatable than those other shitheads.
jordan holmes
Boy, they are all such shit, though.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is trouble for Alex, though, because he's not as important as these other people.
jordan holmes
He's not.
dan friesen
He's not as important as Elon Musk.
He's not as important as Joe Rogan.
jordan holmes
He's not.
dan friesen
So what does he do?
alex jones
Now, why is Elon Musk quoting me to the word, to the letter?
That's a larger discussion.
unidentified
But...
alex jones
I know I'm for real.
I know I hate the globalists.
I know I want to stop them.
I know I love humanity.
I know God's real.
And I know I've got a connection to God.
And then it is frustrating, though.
But I guess in the bigger equation, being persecuted, I guess getting taken off the air and being destroyed, I'm sure they've got prison plan forming after that.
I guess...
jordan holmes
Got a whole planet for it.
alex jones
People resisting this, at least on some level, think that'll be better for humanity and the movement if that's done.
And I guess they're ready to get killed and go to prison or whatever needs to happen.
Or maybe they're bad, talking about Musk, and just wants me out of the way.
But I don't have any delusions of grandeur.
I've already had incredibly spectacular success all because of God.
jordan holmes
That you think he's thought about you as a delusion of grandeur.
alex jones
And all because of God working through you.
I'm more humble than I've ever been.
dan friesen
So humble.
alex jones
Sometimes it comes off as arrogant when I report to you the good news.
jordan holmes
Humility comes off as arrogance.
alex jones
But I've already had a huge success, thanks to God, and I'm already extremely satisfied with what I've been able to do through you and you through me.
But it's still very paradoxical that the number one story on the Internet and the news is Elon Musk and Joe Rogan.
People immediately go, oh, well, this is channeling Alex Jones.
This is word-for-word Alex Jones.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You do that.
You said that.
alex jones
And then Elon pushes it even further to say mean things about me.
And I understand.
He can barely keep Twitter going in this onslaught.
So the tokenism of attacking me, then I guess with the bad guys, you know, is something that's seen as good, and he thinks that the balance is going to let him win.
I think it's unfair.
dan friesen
It's pretty unfair.
Why does Alex have to be pilloried in order to keep Twitter on?
Why does he have to be the...
I mean, I hesitate to say Jesus.
But the Jesus dying for the sins of other people who want to post racist memes on Twitter.
Why must he suffer for everyone else's sins?
That's the only way that Elon Musk can make this work.
jordan holmes
What was it?
Elon Musk, Elon Musk, why have you forsaken me?
I believe that was the line.
unidentified
What was that, Mark?
dan friesen
Forgive them, Elon.
They know not what they tweet.
They know not what they shadow ban.
jordan holmes
If you hadn't told me that in an hour he's going to get sad, after this clip I would have been like, man, this guy's about to get real sad.
Because this is about so sad.
This is coiled spring.
Oh, it is so bad.
I mean, I'm waiting for him to just be like, hey, can you get me a sip of coffee?
And then we begin.
dan friesen
It's on, like, a lot of that.
You can feel.
But then a lot of it is also reliant on past understanding, and that is how much Alex thought he was a better guest than Elon Musk on Rogan's show.
The fact that Musk is coming back and Alex isn't anywhere to be found.
His presumable buddies and everybody who's so like, oh yeah, Alex, we're keeping up the fight for you.
All of them seem to just not want anything to really do with him.
It's gotta be tough.
I don't think that the biggest news in the world was that Musk went on Rogan.
jordan holmes
No, I didn't know.
dan friesen
But it's the biggest news for Alex.
jordan holmes
Because he didn't go on Rogan.
dan friesen
And because he has these feelings about it.
And it's hard.
It's hard.
I mean, I know what it's like.
When I was in middle school, I used to sit with these other kids for lunch.
And then one day they told me that I couldn't sit with them anymore.
And it was tough.
That rejection was tough.
jordan holmes
Rejection is difficult.
dan friesen
It was very...
Very sad.
I had to figure out what I was going to do.
And Alex, I feel like he's wrestling with a little bit of this same thing.
They don't want him at the table.
Now, granted, maybe they want some of the brand that Alex did a good job of establishing.
Some of this really easy hustle around conspiracy theories and all this vague bullshit about...
You know, secret global cabals.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
And so maybe they want to take that, but they don't want him at the table.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That table would be annoying with Alex there.
jordan holmes
It sucks because it does seem like a very obvious problem.
If you are a star fucker, do not become so toxic that stars won't be around for you to fuck.
It seems very simple to me.
dan friesen
Or at least don't attach any meaning to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't be too...
dan friesen
Yeah, your feelings cannot be caught up in the star fuckery or else you end up like this.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, this is what you become.
It's rough.
alex jones
And I guess at a selfish level, I'd like all these big, powerful, successful people to help me.
All I've done is try to help humanity and try to get this message out.
And it's very, very strange to be the progenitor of the resistance movement.
The main progenitor, seen as the enemy, as the granddaddy, and then to still be in absentia or sent to the Phantom Zone where, like, blackbirds, like, crows or ravens, I'm basically tied up with them.
Trying to pull my eyeballs out.
Trying to destroy me and my family.
I don't make a big deal about it.
I'm not going to sit here and make a whole show about persecution.
It's going on.
You know, and Schroyer was put back in solitary confinement yesterday.
There's no rules against calling out to a radio show, but evidently they didn't like it, so we got a call.
He's been thrown back in solitary confinement.
dan friesen
He's going to be in and out of that solitary confinement for the next few months, apparently.
Ridiculous.
I guess Alex brought the Promethean fire.
To the conspiracy world, and now he's mad that they won't pay him back.
And, like, I don't know.
I need money, dicks!
jordan holmes
I would say that, like, you know, in the course of just doing all the interviews and books and stuff, you know, people that I've talked to, I have seen people who have written about at least four or five different Alex Joneses.
Pre-Alex Jones in a bunch of different decades.
As important as Alex is, Alex is not the progenitor of fuck all.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He did not create something.
dan friesen
No.
We are living in the moment that we are and dealing with the technological challenges and innovations that we are.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And Alex is somebody who was able to take that persona that has existed in other generations and mold it incredibly well with riding the wave of those technologies.
Yeah.
You know, the same way that Dane Cook became famous because of...
MySpace.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
And his ability to recognize the potential of this new thing.
Alex, in many ways, is similar in his adaptation to technology.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So he is different in some ways, but also very similar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's an artist who's created...
It's not like Van Gogh, who's just created a thing.
dan friesen
He didn't break any molds.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
It's just like, you know...
Bill Gates, part of why he became so successful is because he had one of the first computers, you know?
If you're one of the first hundred people to have a computer, you're probably more likely to be successful later on down the road using them.
dan friesen
And if you know how to use it.
jordan holmes
And if you know how to use it.
Especially if it takes over the world.
dan friesen
And that's one of the things that I've always tried to keep, you know, it doesn't really matter all that much to what we talk about, but like, he is...
Willingness to teach himself how to edit video VHS tape to VHS tape and make these documentaries that were trash.
But we're really popular in the underground Patriot community and stuff.
Is that, like, someone who had an early computer?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, but 100%.
dan friesen
And granted, he didn't have the computer.
He just had access to an editing doc because of, like, public access stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But still, that is apprising himself with that technology in ways that everyone theoretically could have.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But didn't.
jordan holmes
No, that is the thing to admire.
dan friesen
If there is anything.
jordan holmes
If there is anything to it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
What he did with it sucks.
jordan holmes
Sucks butts.
dan friesen
But yeah, man, you just hear resentment here.
It's just...
jordan holmes
It's sad.
dan friesen
It's tough.
jordan holmes
It's sad.
What a sad boy.
dan friesen
He's very sad.
jordan holmes
What a little sad boy.
dan friesen
I'm not scoring on Rogan.
Oh, nobody likes me.
But look, this show is not going to be all about Alex.
alex jones
So I don't want to make the show about me.
It's just societally...
It'd be nice to continue on.
It'd be nice to continue fighting.
It'd be nice.
But I guess I asked for this, and I also...
jordan holmes
Yes, you did.
alex jones
I thought about this 20 years ago.
I mean, I didn't just say this now, where you can see all the incredible proof and see God working.
I said, no, God literally told me, intensely, like God's presence in the room, at that restaurant, by myself after I've been on TV until like 9 at night.
I got there, they were...
Closing as I was finishing my dinner.
Nobody was in there.
They were already mopping the floors.
And God was like, okay, you're going to detonate, and you're going to get all these prominent people that are going to be way more powerful than you in the future to turn against the globalists, but you will then be targeted, and it's going to be really, really bad.
And are you ready to be destroyed?
This Holy Spirit's very honest at that point.
This isn't the first level of the Holy Spirit, which is a comforter and makes you cry in the presence of God.
It's more like a commanding general saying, this is your mission, like Mission Impossible, where you get the exploding message.
Okay, here's the mission.
Do you choose to take on the suicide mission?
dan friesen
So there's different tiers of Holy Spirit.
So much for the Trinity.
I guess there's a Trinity within the Trinity.
jordan holmes
Listen, there's a hierarchy and a bureaucracy wherever you go.
dan friesen
You have the Holy Spirit base level.
Makes you cry around God.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's so tough.
dan friesen
It's comforting.
jordan holmes
The Holy Spirit hates that gig, right?
dan friesen
I mean, you are the thing that makes people cry.
unidentified
That sucks.
jordan holmes
Think about all that the Holy Spirit has accomplished in its time.
dan friesen
Quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Left on the floor.
dan friesen
That's the first level of it.
There's other levels to it, like sending Alex on suicide missions.
jordan holmes
I think this is my version of being in the Twilight Zone just screaming, There's a man on the wing of the plane!
There's that, because it happens so often.
dan friesen
This guy's a lunatic.
jordan holmes
It happens so often with people like Alex and so many of these politicians, whenever they're answering a debate question, it's like, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
You have to tell the real answer, which is that you think God, from space God, the God who created all this stuff, told you personally to do this.
You have to say that.
You can't not say that.
You can't say there's another reason.
dan friesen
And I will say, from going through his book...
I mean, first of all, we have to unpack every time I bring this up that he didn't write that book.
alex jones
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Someone else wrote it.
But pretending that he wrote it, because that's the image that he wants it to be, it's ridiculous if you know what he talks about.
He talks about, like, this being this divine quest that he's been sent on.
He's trying to present things as, like, really rational.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
Yeah, like, a couple occasional mentions of, like, God's will will, you know, be done and the globalists will fall.
Like, maybe a couple things like that, but not like...
The higher tier version of the Holy Spirit sat me down over chicken fried steak and told me that I was going to go on a suicide mission against the devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should have to say that.
dan friesen
You have to own that.
jordan holmes
You should have to.
You should have to.
dan friesen
And he's going to talk about this a bunch throughout the course of this, that I've been saying consistently the same thing for all of my career about this.
Like, no, you fucking haven't.
unidentified
You fucking liar.
jordan holmes
That's so ridiculous.
dan friesen
God damn it.
Anyway.
God's made him stronger.
That's definitely true.
alex jones
Do you choose to take on this suicide mission?
Yes, I accept it.
All right.
unidentified
Bam!
alex jones
You get the download.
And you're just like...
And then all of a sudden, everything starts getting clearer.
jordan holmes
What a weird guy.
alex jones
And then every level you go up, not backing down, not getting in.
jordan holmes
Seems like that got seen in a lot of movies.
alex jones
Because you're getting tested, you're getting stronger, like a sword in the smithy, in the flame of the blacksmith, and the white-hot flame just...
Bashing it with the hammer, getting it prepared and ready for the real fight.
Because God doesn't put this incredible weight on you until you've already been prepared for it, humbled, and scarred, and have such thick skin that as the arrows and the blades get bigger, they hit you, and it almost is like a massage at a point.
You know you're going towards the enemy.
You know as the pain intensifies.
You're like, wow, I could have never handled this 10 years ago.
20 years ago, I could have never understood how to handle this before.
But the spirit working through you and then through your flesh, as it learns how to handle it, you're being prepared for the final mission.
You're having victories all the way through, even in the defeats.
But then you've got to be ready for the true onslaught.
And so that's where we are.
jordan holmes
Is that where we are?
alex jones
It's quite the moment.
dan friesen
Yep, that's where we are.
I thought COVID was where, that was the final thing.
jordan holmes
Don't, don't think any of the things like, don't think like this.
This is bad thinking.
dan friesen
I thought the 2020 election was the final thing.
jordan holmes
No, this is bad.
dan friesen
Well, I do appreciate in some ways that you could just boil that down to what doesn't kill me makes me stronger.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of that.
dan friesen
But only if the Holy Spirit, the higher tier version, sits you down and gives you a download.
Then what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
The timing of everything and the choices being made by all the actors involved, specifically ones with divine powers especially.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Boy, I don't trust anybody involved in this process.
jordan holmes
This is a bad process.
You know what?
I'm not even saying that I don't think it's real.
I am just saying that if it is real, it is a bad way of doing things.
dan friesen
I just had a thought.
What would happen if the Holy Spirit, the higher tier version, had visited Alex in this chicken fried steak restaurant and said, hey bro, you need to go on this suicide mission.
And Alex said, nah.
Does the Holy Spirit then leave and be like, wow, I thought that was going to work.
Like, does he have to go find someone else?
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
What happens?
jordan holmes
That is an interesting wrinkle on the, like, can God make a mountain so big even God can't move it question?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, like, can God make an asshole so big of an asshole they can be an asshole to God?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Even to God's face.
dan friesen
Or can you waste God's time?
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Is that possible?
jordan holmes
That is the ultimate question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is.
dan friesen
Hey, can God make an offer to you that he doesn't already know what the resulting...
jordan holmes
No, the situation is, the question is this.
If I pause, does God have to wait for me to finish what I'm saying?
You know, like if God asks me a question and then I go, huh, is God waiting the whole time?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Does he have time for me to go?
dan friesen
Are there a million, hundred million...
People in the world who have had this experience at the chicken fried steak restaurant that said, nah, I'm good.
I'm just going to go ahead and live my life.
Because we certainly don't hear about that a ton.
jordan holmes
It would be nice if it turned out that we all have these all the time and we just don't talk about them.
Everybody's just like, hey, listen, I can't tell anybody about how every fucking Thursday at this steak fried restaurant.
dan friesen
If that's the case, then that's a terrifying reality.
It's a bad system.
Look, I don't think there's any way around this.
I think that Alex sees himself as the new Jesus.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to have to go with that.
alex jones
I'm not going to talk about God's plan.
I've got a really good idea.
God repeats the plan over and over again.
And God wants us to pick up the cross like Christ and follow him.
And that's what happens.
It repeats over and over again.
We're not Christ.
We're to be Christ-like.
And that means at the end, you become a sacrifice that gets torn to pieces.
jordan holmes
And you have less caffeine.
alex jones
Not some satanic sacrifice, some weak child or some animal, but God wants to sacrifice the strong and the bold, those that have the will.
The Alamo was a sacrifice.
Travis knew he was going to get killed.
Could have got out.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
alex jones
The Spirit told him, stay and die and be a willing sacrifice.
And a lot of you are going to have to be willing to make sacrifices, too.
In front of your church or talking to your neighbors or in the decisions you make.
I know it's hard to get up at your church and speak out and tell the pastor you want to speak.
You've been going there 20 years.
Get up there and speak.
I know it's hard to go to the school board and speak.
You better do it.
And I know it's hard to stand up against this evil, but it's a lot harder to be cut off from God.
We're going to come back with this Elon Musk information.
It's big.
dan friesen
It's big.
It's big information.
So I think that Alex does think that Colonel Travis is something of a Christ figure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And as much as he believes his sacrifice to be willing at the Alamo, and then through that sacrifice, the state of Texas is born.
And I believe that Alex sees himself fulfilling that archetype also.
His destruction will lead to the destruction of the globalists or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's dying for all of our sins, more or less.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
It's pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes
You know, boy, I don't know if I can argue that, but I will say, if it is true...
Maybe hurry the fuck up.
How about that?
dan friesen
Boy!
jordan holmes
Maybe let's not take so long.
Maybe my biggest problem with Travis is he's taken a fucking five years or whatever.
dan friesen
I had a lot of thoughts like that as I was going through this.
Does his bankruptcy bullshit fly in the face of God's plan?
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Because if God's plan is for Alex to be destroyed...
jordan holmes
Why are you fighting the bankruptcy?
dan friesen
Exactly.
Why won't you do your part?
In the agreement that you made with God.
jordan holmes
It would not be the same quite heavenly image if your view of Jesus on the cross was him being like, Get me out of here!
Get me the fuck off of these things!
This really hurts!
dan friesen
Oh my god, my feet!
jordan holmes
My feet!
Let it be gone!
dan friesen
Let's take it another step further.
And imagine Jesus grandstanding all the way.
To the, like, crucifixion and then wrapping Pontius Pilate up in appeals for years.
Like, does that have the same sort of emotional resonance as the story?
jordan holmes
I washed my hands of this.
Ah, ah, ah, ah!
No, you do not, Mr. Pilate.
dan friesen
No, I'm going to declare bankruptcy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah, it's not quite as powerful.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So we don't get to Elon Musk's news.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex talks more about God's plan.
joe rogan
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that if you take this seriously, God is something of a brand advisor for Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's good.
alex jones
Most listeners or regular listeners have heard this a hundred times.
I mean, I've told the story a month ago.
I told it a year ago.
I tell it all the time because it was a big spiritual experience and I've only had a few others that were this intense.
And God was telling me...
You know, because all I did was study the globalists, and I had a popular access TV show, and I was on local talk radio, and it was getting really popular.
I've only been on air about three years.
And then God says, your job is going to be exposing this.
And when all this stuff comes out, that's when you're going to get great credibility.
At first, you're going to be attacked and demonized for it.
dan friesen
And then still later.
alex jones
Basically, all the people that have tried to oppose this before were so academic, like Anthony Sutton and others, that the public never got reached on a mass scale.
You're going to bring this to the masses through pop culture.
You're going to be extremely powerful and successful.
And it's beyond this in the download.
It's a spirit communicating where you just know it.
It's beyond being told something.
It's being downloaded.
It's being imprinted on you.
Okay?
dan friesen
I think that you could...
I mean, if you want to talk about this in terms of, like, real down-to-earth dynamics, you could just be like...
Him realizing that all this shit is dry as fuck.
All this John Birch Society stuff doesn't appeal to the kids.
Maybe I should dress it up with some fun, screamy rants.
Maybe I should try and make this more accessible.
Maybe there's a brand in there.
jordan holmes
I don't think it's too much of a surprise that he came up during the same period of time whenever things needed to be radical.
And other...
Cowabunga was also used at the time.
dan friesen
That's true.
Tubular.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What was the thing that everything was...
dan friesen
Boom shakalaka.
jordan holmes
Everything was turning...
Ah, man.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
unidentified
I'm waiting.
jordan holmes
I was trying to think of...
It's the way that the Saved by the Bell font makes you feel.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
You're not even talking about the font.
You're talking about the aesthetics of the background visuals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The ambiance at the max.
jordan holmes
Right, to the max, to the limit.
Yeah.
Everything's fresh.
dan friesen
But, you know, if you look at this and you take the spiritual and the clear insane parts of it out of it, you kind of just have Alex sitting at a chicken fried steak restaurant realizing his path.
That like, okay, this is a way that I can make this extreme message more interesting to people who aren't 80. Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's like in the movie documentary.
It's like in the rock picture where the kid gets his first look at an axe in the window and goes like, I'm gonna be a movie star.
And then there's the soft fade and he's on stage playing the big thing.
Except instead of an axe, it was like a weird cutout of clown-faced Jesus going like, You're gonna do all kinds of crazy things, kid!
And that's where we are now.
dan friesen
True.
So, it all started, his vision.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It started with God scaring Alex.
jordan holmes
Right, as it is.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And then it turns out he also, in addition to being Jesus, he's supposed to be John the Baptist.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And, but you've got to be ready for the fact that you're going to get heavily persecuted and you're going to be seen by the devil as the one that did it, that I worked through.
And are you willing to do this?
Because it's going to get bad.
And then I was shown fear and attacks and a download of the enemy being able to have its way with me to a great extent.
But then if I would go through it, God would take me through it and take many others through it.
That would be at a great cost.
It was just this download, awesome download, of first how dangerous it was.
And also the huge success it would have.
And there would be these incredibly prominent leaders.
That would then, thanks to us laying the groundwork, and it was like a John the Baptist type thing.
Not comparable to John the Baptist, but that's what it was compared to.
Like, you prepare the way.
You are the one preparing the way.
For yourself.
You're the road builder that this thing's going to roll down.
Now, go build the road.
It's like, go build the ark and the animals go on it.
Go build the road.
Go do this.
Do you want this mission?
And then as soon as I said, yeah, I want the mission, boom.
And then the doors went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And then basically nothing can stand against us, and you've seen that.
dan friesen
I've seen a lot of things stand against us.
jordan holmes
I have seen so many things stand against us.
dan friesen
Also, I have to say this.
I'm not scared of the devil.
If the devil is singling Alex out as the one who has stood against his plans because he's taken up this suicide mission from God, the devil can't do much, it turns out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember when I was growing up, you know, that whole religious thing, you know, you're worried about the punishments, you're worried about what can be done, you know, like, oh, it's infinite, the power, you know, man, these people have done a lot to diffuse any fear I have of their imaginary gods because they're so bad.
dan friesen
If Alex's current state is what the devil can do, I welcome that...
As being the worst thing that's possible in the world.
Because it's nothing.
Alex's decisions have led him to where he is now.
Unless the devil made him do it, unless the devil made him do the Sandy Hook shit, then it doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
And you wouldn't say that.
It doesn't even matter because God made him do the Sandy Hook shit.
dan friesen
Well, if you believe what he's saying, then yes.
jordan holmes
That's what he's saying.
He's saying that God made me defame the families of murder victims.
dan friesen
Because that's all part of making me stronger.
unidentified
Because...
jordan holmes
I am so great.
dan friesen
Well, you, if you are following God's plan, and God's plan involves your destruction, then God's plan also must involve sowing the seeds of your destruction.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that would be Alex's choices that he's made throughout his career.
jordan holmes
You know, it is...
dan friesen
Much like Colonel Travis being a drunk weirdo loser who ended up at the Alamo.
jordan holmes
See, part of the narrative structure of fiction is like, you know...
You have clear characters, you know, good and evil.
You don't want to just have a character who's like, I'm God and I'm going to be holy.
I'm going to tell you everything that God would tell you to do.
And then at the end of the vision, they take the mask off and it's the devil.
And it's just like, well, that was fucking easy.
And then he walks off into the sunset and Alex Jones lives his life, you know?
Like, if that's what you have to do to be the devil and to get somebody to destroy their life like this and ruin the world that way, that's easy.
dan friesen
I think that from everything I'm hearing Alex say, it was the Holy Spirit.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with the devil.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Would the devil say this?
alex jones
And just imagine, I've told this story probably 200 times in the last 20, the first few years I didn't tell it because it was, you know, God talked to me and this was, you know, I didn't say that.
But it's more than 20 years.
It was after 9-11 that I said no.
I mean, God basically has given me this mission.
Now, I'm on record saying that, and I couldn't imagine.
God didn't show me who or what, but notice I was friends with Joe Rogan back then, and I remember God saying, just stay with Joe Rogan.
Stay on Joe Rogan.
Keep educating him.
And I even said six years ago when he was going on the wrong path, God really impressed on me.
I went too far.
That was the flesh speaking.
Destroy Joe Rogan if he doesn't get on the team.
That was the kind of inclination that was happening in this download with my feeble human brain.
dan friesen
Your feeble human brain.
Now, would the devil say that?
Destroy your best friend if he doesn't go along with my plans?
jordan holmes
I feel like God needs a girlfriend in this scenario.
God has too much time on his hands and really just needs to, like, have something else to do.
dan friesen
It would be nice.
Here's something I'm noticing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex's God seems to tell him to destroy people a lot.
He told him to destroy Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Now he's telling him to destroy Joe Rogan.
Sure.
I would suggest that there are very few people alive who have had God tell them to destroy one person, let alone two.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's got to probably be others that Alex just hasn't revealed yet.
Other people God has enlisted him to destroy.
jordan holmes
What I like about his God.
dan friesen
I assume Soros, Klaus Schwab.
jordan holmes
What I like about his God is how uncertain his God seems to be of certain things.
You know, like, hey, if Rogan fucks with you, then you gotta do it, Bo.
But, you know, like, if he doesn't, then you're good.
Like, no, no, no, you're supposed to know that already, right?
dan friesen
And then Alex goes out on air, and he's like, I'm gonna gut you like a pig, you sneaky snake.
Why don't you be honest about your kids?
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Pull back.
dan friesen
That was the flesh.
jordan holmes
Pull back a little bit.
unidentified
That was a little too much.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
So, um...
The download.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It made Alex very, very smart.
But it also had side effects.
alex jones
Why?
jordan holmes
What God is this?
alex jones
And again, it's like being given the Library of Congress.
You're trying to now go over it and look at it.
And when you look at this issue, you have more discernment now.
When you look at that issue, now you suddenly have like an armory of understanding about things you shouldn't even know.
I mean, it's just insane.
Like, all sorts of knowledge.
It's just things that I was never taught or read.
I would just know.
How machinery operated or nuclear reactors or what globalist programs they were running.
I'd just be able to look at their current data and then I would extrapolate and see through it to the other side.
I mean, just super brain boost.
A massive brain boost.
jordan holmes
Was it as good as your product?
alex jones
And it's been heavy.
That's why I've drank too much and done things like that to myself that are bad.
No drugs.
dan friesen
None?
alex jones
Because it's like, turn it off!
It's so intense.
There's no turning it off.
dan friesen
I wonder if Alex had some kind of a psychotic break.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's what he's describing.
dan friesen
He's had something in his head since that day, or whatever, that he's tried to turn off with alcohol.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's been self-medicating because he has extreme visions of terrible things happening often.
dan friesen
I wonder if what he's describing is clinical.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it's a certain type of obsessive-compulsive disorder.
dan friesen
It very well may be.
I don't know.
It's weird to think that he has this obsession with that day at that chicken fried steak restaurant as being the beginning of it.
It makes you wonder if there's other surrounding context.
But what I don't think is that it was...
jordan holmes
See, but here's the thing.
Here's what I think is even cra- and here's why I think Alex is even crazier than this, right?
Is because Alex doesn't even believe that he believes that he's telling this real lie.
dan friesen
Why would he spend all day on it then?
jordan holmes
Do you know what I mean?
Why would he do that?
He's writing it to tell himself, like he's telling himself a bedtime story about his own exploits.
dan friesen
It's self-soothing behavior in a way, and then also reassuring of the audience, self-aggrandizing, myth-building, all this stuff.
jordan holmes
To himself, though.
He is creating his own thing that he doesn't believe because he's making it up to himself.
It's fascinating.
It is an insane person's decision-making.
dan friesen
But it also sort of tracks with his sort of outright denial of the existence of truth.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, the way that he can pretend that he's been telling this story consistently and the same way over years.
Yep.
Because in the moment, whatever he believes to be and what feels like is true to him is the truth.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
And that has always been the truth.
And it's been consistently.
jordan holmes
And it doesn't matter if it was or it wasn't.
In the moment, it always has been.
dan friesen
Yes, and it doesn't matter if there's recordings that say otherwise.
jordan holmes
They're not there in this moment.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So weird.
dan friesen
You know, we have a couple of threads that are going throughout this.
We have the first one, which is the Elon Musk and Joe Rogan have taken over my mantle.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I wish that they would.
Respect me a little bit.
jordan holmes
They don't invite me anymore.
dan friesen
But yet I am their hero.
jordan holmes
I don't get to go out and do the movies with them.
dan friesen
And that is tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then we also have God has given him a suicide mission that he is on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so you put these together and you think your mission's done, man.
Right?
jordan holmes
It does feel like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Rogan and Elon Musk have come along.
They've told you that you need to hold their beer.
Yep.
jordan holmes
The entire world has gifted you with a billion dollars of hatred?
dan friesen
And a perfect way for you to flame out.
A perfect way for you to have your self-sacrificing moment?
jordan holmes
The strange thing is, if you wanted to lean into the myth, it is possible to do.
It's that he's fighting against it that's so weird.
dan friesen
You bet.
But the reason is because God won't let him quit yet.
alex jones
There are hundreds of thousands of you.
Tune in right now, the millions.
Who heard me 20 years ago say it, or five years ago say it, and you're like, yeah, that sounds a little delusional, delusions of grandeur.
No, that's not me.
That's God working through me.
God working through you, tuning in, caring, supporting the broadcast.
This has all been God's plan.
And God works in mysterious ways.
So I'm very blessed to be here.
I'm very honored.
And the biggest mistake I made over the years was I would exhaust myself and be so stressed and grind my teeth and everything.
unidentified
Feeling like I had to beat them.
alex jones
Yeah, I was relying on God, but I was still, I'm a man, I'm tough, I can organize this, and I would not call on God enough.
And now I've learned to just turn it loose and say, it's in God's plan, and God, you're going to have to raise me up, you're going to have to hold me up, if that's your plan.
dan friesen
Alex is very chill.
alex jones
And the minute God's ready to tell me to not do this anymore, and not yet.
But I've been...
The light is at the end of the tunnel.
dan friesen
20 minutes away.
alex jones
God has told me that...
My reports aren't over yet, but I'm nearing...
It might be five years, might be ten, might be a month.
But God's like, just keep going.
You're almost to the top of the mountain.
Just keep going.
I just want to get there.
unidentified
Just go home.
alex jones
And then hopefully...
jordan holmes
Go home.
alex jones
God can then just remove some of this because I just...
I can't handle it.
It's heavy.
But that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
And I love you all and I appreciate you, but God's 100% real.
We're eternal beings.
jordan holmes
We have spirits.
alex jones
There's no way.
This is just my imagination.
jordan holmes
There's no way.
alex jones
I wasn't thinking about...
jordan holmes
Definitely not saying that now.
alex jones
...and all this other stuff.
I was sitting there with a notebook, writing notes, finishing a chicken fried steak, and I think I was drinking iced tea.
Maybe it was a beer.
I don't remember.
I didn't drink a lot then.
There was like two beers a week back then.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
alex jones
What is this?
unidentified
And...
I just...
alex jones
It's so heavy.
dan friesen
It's heavy.
jordan holmes
It's so heavy.
dan friesen
So, there's no way I'm making this up.
It's something that people who make things up say.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
The other thing that I find really troubling, and, like, on a human level, I feel very empathetic about it, is when he's, like, talking about when he quits, God, can he take this away?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because what he experiences and this compulsion that he has, that's not going away when you retire.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
When you stop doing that, that's still part of your brain.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has this idea that he's going to finish God's quest that he's been on, and then he'll be just a happy man, maybe a farmer.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, but isn't that what you're going to believe if you don't know the difference between reality and movies?
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
jordan holmes
Aren't you going to believe that if I've already created this grand mythology around myself, I'm going to get the right off into the sunset?
dan friesen
There'll be a little bit of falling action, and then the story is over.
I don't have to live the rest of my life.
jordan holmes
And then maybe we'll do another movie where I'm 30 years older.
We can cut that 30 years of me just living a regular-ass life out, right?
And then I'm dragged back in for one last job.
No point in time is he ever just like, how am I going to live a regular-ass day-to-day?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The part of his brain that does this is there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not going away.
jordan holmes
And it's not outside of his brain.
It's not in heaven.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's not outside, buddy.
dan friesen
If there's one thing that I've been very convinced is real is he will not stop.
He does not stop.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
This is very intrinsic Alex shit.
And for him to imagine and desire for it to go away once his quote-unquote mission is over, it kind of hurts.
You know, it does feel kind of sad because he's not going to get that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's going to be miserable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean, in a way, it's not that I've stopped thinking of him as a human being.
dan friesen
I understand.
jordan holmes
But a certain part of this is boiled down to a mechanical aspect of like, I'm not going to feel bad whenever a...
Thing that makes shitty cars no longer works.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Let me whittle down and clarify what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't care about it for Alex.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
But I know that people do experience that exact same thing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is a painful thing for someone to go through.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm not really that concerned for Alex.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
And what he's going to do when he retires.
jordan holmes
No, I understand.
dan friesen
But just on a human level, that is something that I know that I've heard people...
What I do feel jealous about a little bit is that the vision came to Alex as an eagle.
jordan holmes
Man, that's some Assassin's Creed shit.
It did not come to him as an eagle.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
Americana stuff, it's a little on the nose.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a little on the nose.
alex jones
And the story's on record.
And look, it came true.
And it wasn't just like I envisioned something and then was able to manifest it through hard work.
Skip the break, Sargent.
No, it was so particular and so specific.
So like I knew I'd been I mean, you could feel the atmosphere crackling in the restaurant.
Dad, I have to go to the bathroom.
jordan holmes
Why is the atmosphere crackling?
alex jones
What's going on here?
unidentified
I think that gross man is masturbating, daughter.
alex jones
I mean, just imagine like a 10,000 foot tall giant eagle landing right on top of you and you're right between its feet.
unidentified
What?
If I imagine that, then the eagle doesn't know I exist.
jordan holmes
of Too Small.
unidentified
Too Small.
alex jones
And then being commissioned.
But all of us get a chance to be commissioned in God's army.
dan friesen
When the eagle visits you, it will come with a contract.
And then it will do battle with the giant mantis.
unidentified
But many of us will become non-commissioned officers in God's army.
dan friesen
Some of you will be chaplains.
Some of you will be medics.
jordan holmes
I'm a conscientious objector in God's army.
unidentified
Some of you will end up as recruiters for the giant eagle.
jordan holmes
I go to high schools in rural towns for God's army.
unidentified
You know me.
dan friesen
Well, yes, young man.
I was visited by a giant eagle.
That's why I'm here at your high school.
Offering to take you to lunch to trick you into joining the army.
jordan holmes
I have limited prospects for college, young man.
dan friesen
So the giant eagle.
alex jones
Cool.
dan friesen
So Alex has known all kinds of things and he has to resist abusing this information.
alex jones
Alright.
There's a bunch of clips here.
Here's just one of them.
On the globalist exterminist death cult that's injecting the planet with a spirit of death and failure to kill you and to kill everybody.
Now that's quite an insane sounding statement that I've been saying for 25 years.
I was covering it some 29 years ago, but I really hadn't been commissioned yet.
I mean, I was drawn.
I'd been directed towards that, but I didn't sign the paperwork until about 27 years ago.
dan friesen
Over chicken fried steak.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
It's 100% real.
The intel you're given is incredible.
But then all the time, I have intel that would make money in this market, and the guy's like, nope, you're not supposed to use your knowledge in that area.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait!
alex jones
I'm going to do what the Holy Spirit says every time.
Not half the time or some of the time.
And the more you follow its directive, you're not a slave, but you follow the orders.
You're just at a whole other level.
dan friesen
So this raises the question of, is that why he didn't get into Bitcoin?
jordan holmes
Does anybody really want to unpack what it means to go through a rant like this?
You know, where eventually you get down to like...
Somehow you're trying to convince yourself that you're not a slave to God while at the same time saying that being a slave to God is the greatest thing that you could possibly be.
But I hate slavery, so I can't be a slave to God.
dan friesen
And I could have all the wealth and riches that I want, but God doesn't let me use these magical psychic powers that I have for evil.
jordan holmes
And I could have dated all the hottest women in school.
unidentified
And I did!
jordan holmes
And I could have done this!
And I could have done this!
dan friesen
And I did date them, but then I found out they were Satanists.
jordan holmes
And I was also the best athlete.
And I was also the best...
Yeah, it's like, Jesus Christ, man.
Just calm it down.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just relax.
dan friesen
So, Alex is tuned into the God Channel by virtue and way of the giant eagle that visited him over chicken fried steaks 27 years ago and made him sign a contract.
jordan holmes
What if you didn't really like chicken fried steak?
Wouldn't you still have to keep eating it, though, just in case?
dan friesen
Just to see if that's the portal?
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, you try to recreate the circumstances.
jordan holmes
You'd have to at least once.
dan friesen
Right.
It's the case of the superstitious pigeon.
Yes, absolutely.
That sort of behavior thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe that's why Alex...
I don't know.
He probably eats chicken food quite a bit.
I mean, it's delicious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he knows.
He's tuned into this God channel.
But he also can check in on the Devil channel.
He can see what's going on over there.
jordan holmes
I hate...
I hate this.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
I hate this idea of...
dan friesen
You channel surf!
jordan holmes
I hate it so much that God is even...
God's poking up or just popping up.
Hey, nope, don't use it there!
I'm out!
unidentified
Bye!
jordan holmes
I was God here!
dan friesen
Hey, I have a good stock tip.
jordan holmes
Nope!
I spent so much of my life taking religion so seriously, and to hear this is so fucking funny.
dan friesen
Well, here's what the devil's up to.
alex jones
I know what the Satanists have dialed into, because...
I can also, anybody can, tune to that channel.
And before I got commissioned, I am a very empathic, connected person, like many of you are.
Everybody is to a certain extent.
And so I'm dialed around the radio dial.
And man, let me tell you, it's not a good place.
It is not a good place to be.
These Satanists are only happy for very brief periods of time while they're hurting somebody innocent.
And that's why they want to have abortion and death and infanticide and transgenderism and fentanyl and all this betrayal and pain and sorrow and being cut off from God and being desperate and being alone.
Wow, God is the complete opposite.
Love, completion, honor, strength, will, your ancestors, the spirit families we all come from that God has already set up.
It's like we have families in the third dimension.
I mean, this is all incredible.
It's beyond anything you can imagine.
And then there's that total honor, total completion for infinity.
Perfection.
dan friesen
Perfection!
Yeah, God has his channel.
Satan's got a channel.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I think my personal hell is probably Satan on the radio.
Because that sound drop, you know, the one where the...
Howard Stern, me so horny sound.
No, the one where it's like the woman saying...
dan friesen
I never listen to that much Stern, so I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, it's everybody's...
dan friesen
It's like the me so horny from the two live crew.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's just...
That's hell.
That is hell.
dan friesen
Yeah?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I...
I wonder what other channels are available.
I wonder what...
It can't only be a two-channel radio band.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, okay, so we don't talk about the Pantheon or the host.
dan friesen
Is there a Zeus channel?
jordan holmes
No, there's Sandalfon.
He's got a smooth jazz channel.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I would assume that...
jordan holmes
You got the Archangel Michael.
dan friesen
Hephaestus has like a craft channel.
jordan holmes
Oh, now we're adding the full.
Yeah.
All bets are off.
dan friesen
Loveline.
Yeah, for sure.
jordan holmes
Odin has a sports call and radio show, for sure.
dan friesen
Naturally.
jordan holmes
You know it.
Gave his one eye to know what's happening.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think...
I like the radio metaphor, but I think Alex needs to work on it a little bit more.
So he finally gets around to playing a clip from Rogan and Elon Musk.
And they're talking about how Twitter used to be run out of San Francisco.
And that San Francisco has a demonic energy that it was vibing out into the world by way of Twitter.
And so this ideology of death...
It was coming from San Francisco, and it was being shot out by Twitter, which is why Elon Musk needed to buy it in order to save civilization from this evil message that was being pumped out by the philosophy of San Francisco.
Wow.
Yeah.
We're not going to hear any of that because it's a long clip.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't want to be melodramatic, but it's almost like a death cult.
elon musk
It's a death cult.
No, no, that is exactly right.
It's essentially the extinctionists.
Like, it's in the limit.
It is that they're propagating the extinction of humanity and civilization.
And there's some people who are, like most of the time, it's implicit.
But sometimes it's explicit.
Like there was a guy on the front page of the New York Times who literally has a thing called the Extinctionist Movement.
And he was quoted on the front page of the New York Times as saying, there are 8 billion people in the world, but it would be better if there were none.
And I'm like, well, buddy, you can start with yourself.
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
elon musk
Let's calm it down.
unidentified
Does he have friends?
joe rogan
That's what always fascinated me.
elon musk
Well, here he is.
joe rogan
He looks like you did not long for this earth.
unidentified
He wasn't.
I mean, he's not young.
joe rogan
Voluntary human extinction movement.
That's hilarious.
I'd like to party with that dude.
I would just like to, like...
elon musk
That's an explicit version of the death cult.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe you live long and die out.
elon musk
I mean, it's not...
Extinction is a word he uses.
joe rogan
Yes.
elon musk
No, I mean, it's literally a self-description.
joe rogan
Did they cover him glowingly?
elon musk
That death was in charge of social media.
joe rogan
Yeah.
elon musk
And still largely is at Google and Facebook, by the way.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
elon musk
So I'm like, I'm not in favor of human extinction.
They are, and they can go to hell.
unidentified
Well, that guy is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Strong words.
joe rogan
That guy seems silly.
unidentified
Watch out.
joe rogan
I would like to hang out with him, though.
I would like to find out what makes him tick.
I bet that guy is fascinating.
You get him alone for a few days?
elon musk
I'm in favor of a few days.
unidentified
It takes a few days to know, man.
elon musk
If you take environmentalism to an extreme, you start to view humanity as a plague on the surface of the earth, like a mold or something.
unidentified
Right.
elon musk
But this is actually false.
The Earth could take probably ten times the current civilization.
The population could be, you could 10x the population without destroying the marine forest.
So the environmental movement, and I'm an environmentalist, has gone too far.
They've gone way too far.
You know, if you start thinking that humans are bad, then the natural conclusion is humans are bad.
alex jones
All right, then pause.
Back it up ten seconds.
Back it up.
dan friesen
So the voluntary human extinction movement, or vehement, was something that me and my buddies would make jokes about 20 years ago.
I mean, it's existed forever.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
It's a real thing in as much as it exists, but it's not a relevant movement in society.
And this whole, like, why don't you go first?
They are.
Yeah, that's the idea.
They plan to die and not reproduce.
That's the voluntary human extinction.
jordan holmes
We're going to kill ourselves.
dan friesen
We're choosing not to have kids for the sake of this voluntary extinction.
This is ridiculous for Elon Musk, the richest person in the world and owner of one of the largest social media companies in the world, to be whining about them to Joe Rogan, one of the biggest podcasters in the world.
The scale difference is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
Now, I don't think that any of the environmentalists are saying that humans are bad, but many human actions that we've normalized over the years are, in fact, bad, and there are some behaviors changes that we can make to be better.
Elon doesn't make that distinction, probably because he's a shithead.
I don't want to spend more time than I need to breaking down a stoned interview between these two idiots where Rogan's actually wearing a blonde wig, by the way, but I just want Yeah.
unidentified
God damn it.
dan friesen
Halloween, baby.
I think it's Halloween.
jordan holmes
I hate this world.
dan friesen
Musk brings up how dirty environmentalists see humans as mold, and that made me think of one very specific thing that I'm going to play for you now.
joe rogan
Alright, this is what I think about people, and this is where it's going to get really weird.
I think human beings...
Are just a very complicated form of bacteria.
I think if you looked at the earth as a living organism, and who's to say that it's not some sort of a super organism, it's certainly a host for life, and we're considered a living organism, but really we're a host for life.
There's more E. coli living inside our gut than there have ever been people, ever.
There's bacteria that's constantly around you, and your body's fighting off that bacteria until your body grows old and dies, and then it doesn't fight anymore, and that bacteria just eats.
That's what it does.
I mean, that's what it's there for.
Okay, well, if you looked at the Earth as this living organism, and like you were flying into L.A., and you're passing over these beautiful mountains, and you see the ocean ahead, it all looks natural and beautiful, but then you see L.A. What the fuck is that?
That's a growth.
That's cancer.
It's big, and it's brown, and it stinks, and smoke's coming out of it, and it gets bigger every year.
And it doesn't matter what you do.
It's going to keep going.
You can knock it down with a fucking hurricane.
It rebuilds.
Light it on fire.
It rebuilds.
And I think if you were an intelligent life form from another planet and you were looking at the Earth...
You wouldn't see individual people.
You wouldn't see housekeepers and limo drivers and stand-up comedians.
You wouldn't see that.
You would see mold on a sandwich.
I think if you look at us objectively and the way we're headed and the way we've always been, it doesn't matter how much access to information we have, it doesn't matter how much technological innovation we have, we're always going to destroy the earth.
Because I think, somehow or another, that's what we're supposed to do.
I think that's our purpose here on Earth.
I think we are here to fuck shit up.
dan friesen
So this is one of the first pseudo-rants that really broke through for Rogan and helped create his brand as some kind of a druggy, deep thinker.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This went viral for the time.
And thus, this plus hanging out with Duncan Trussell probably should get most of the credit for people thinking that Joe had a lot of depth to him and he wasn't just the Fear Factor guy or the second round of man show guys.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was a lot of Trussell.
dan friesen
This was everywhere.
This particular rant, and he did it in various forms.
He did this multiple times.
This idea of flying over LA and seeing it, it's mold.
He literally is saying the same stuff that Elon...
Right, right, right.
The very mentality that Musk is talking about is something that Joe owes a lot of his career to, and it's a mentality that he spread super far and wide himself, to the point that when I hear Musk say something like comparing humans to mold, I don't think of environmentalists.
I think of Rogan, specifically.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's a little irony there.
jordan holmes
You know, I don't know.
I mean, but it's on purpose.
You know, it's not necessarily ironic for somebody who is doing the thing to blame the people who are trying to stop him from doing on them.
You know, like, Elon saying environmentalists are the death cult is very clearly him being like, well...
Obviously, it's got me and my billionaire friends trying to escape the planet.
dan friesen
And put chips in you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be crazy if we were an extinction cult.
dan friesen
Alex, at one point, is talking about Iolevowski.
He's like, yeah, you know, I've had some problems with him, like with the electric cars and putting chips in people, but he's moved past that.
Wait, what?
He's still doing those things.
jordan holmes
You've moved past it because you want something different.
dan friesen
He's learned the error of his ways.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, it is nuts.
dan friesen
Anyway, I find there...
Dynamic.
Mosk and Rogan.
Insufferable.
jordan holmes
I hate them so much.
dan friesen
But especially together.
jordan holmes
Together they're the worst.
dan friesen
That is unlistenable shit.
jordan holmes
It is!
unidentified
What is it about money that makes people think I want to listen to them?
dan friesen
I think it's the money.
And the people around them that treat them like everyone wants to listen to them.
jordan holmes
God, that's so fucked up.
dan friesen
So Alex gets back to talking shit.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he has some stories about his dad.
And we know that his dad was the smartest boy in Texas.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he was recruited by the globalists.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex talks about that a little bit here.
alex jones
They tried to recruit my dad when he was in high school.
He was already going to the University of Texas.
Plan 2. Thought he was joining NASA.
And they called him aside and recruited him into it.
He was in there for like four years.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
He didn't tell me about it until 2007.
jordan holmes
You are just now telling us about this?
alex jones
Going to a ballet recital with my...
Oldest daughter, Charlotte.
She was like three.
And my mother in the car said, David, it's not that bad.
And he said, no, it's as bad as all that.
And for 15 minutes, he just data-dumped it all.
dan friesen
Like a download from a people.
alex jones
He was top of his class in the state of Texas.
They had six kids that were the smartest in all the tests.
And they recruited him there.
And out of the six, he was chosen for the program.
And the program was to set up a world government and slowly cut off the resources and carry out eugenics.
jordan holmes
How's it going?
alex jones
Now, they've recruited millions of people like that, and they're in almost every position of power.
So what does it mean now that Elon Musk is opposing them?
dan friesen
Nothing.
alex jones
And Joe Rogan and all the rest of it.
It means it's out in the open now.
That's the takeaway, and that's really the important news.
dan friesen
So, this just can't work with the timeline that Alex has been telling about his dad's recruitment stuff, because there were two recruitments that the globalists did.
There was never, he worked for them for four years, and then decided to get out.
This is all convoluted.
jordan holmes
Just tell me, just say your dad could have beaten up my dad.
I would just prefer that to having to hear about how he's smart in a bunch of different fictional ways.
dan friesen
I mean, look, here's what I would like.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sit down.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Give me the story, beat by beat.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And we stick with that.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
dan friesen
Don't do this, like, whatever serves the purposes of the day bullshit.
I can't handle it.
Because there's so many different timelines.
It's like an episode of Loki!
jordan holmes
You know, I'm starting to think...
I recognize that that's a reference.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I felt you needing...
dan friesen
I tried.
I tried to, you know, reach out to your nerd stuff.
jordan holmes
I'm starting to think that maybe you would rather a, like, written history as opposed to lore.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
But actually, I wouldn't mind if the lore was coherent.
Like, because it's just like...
Okay, so I could say, ah, Alex, you said that the globalists tried to recruit your dad and make him work in an underground thing and your mom didn't want to do it.
But then he'd be like, no, he was out of high school.
It was four years that he worked for them.
I'm like, wait, which is the truth?
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
dan friesen
If everything is so slippery and undefined, then I can't do anything with it.
It's just meaningless Ethereum.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Elysium.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's idea, which is a new way of me saying diarrhea, but, you know, in a pithier way.
dan friesen
So Alex has a long analogy about being in a street fight with the globalists here.
jordan holmes
Wait, I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It goes too long.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
Once we have a real debate about this, once this is out in the open, it fails.
Now it's going to get a lot of what it wants to do done because we're showing up late.
But the truth still trumps that.
So the devil's going to get a big piece of our ass.
And we're going to pay.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't you be on that?
alex jones
In the end, they're going to lose.
jordan holmes
Didn't God appoint you or something?
alex jones
Kind of like, you know, you're a tough guy.
You're not looking for a fight.
Some crazy person, while you're pumping gas, comes up and punches you right in the temple.
jordan holmes
Strange choice.
alex jones
You almost get knocked out.
You get up.
And you see them coming in to kick you in the face.
And you raise your hands up and grab them by the foot.
And throw them down.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And you get up, and you're bleeding, and your vision's a little blurry, and you see them getting up, but your instincts kick in, and you right hook them as they come in right under the jaw.
dan friesen
Good shot.
alex jones
You break their jaw.
unidentified
Damn.
jordan holmes
They sprayed with gas.
alex jones
Oh, no!
dan friesen
They got a knife!
alex jones
Come at you with it.
jordan holmes
Spray them with gas.
unidentified
Come on.
alex jones
Reach out.
You miss grabbing it right.
Cuts one of your fingers off.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
alex jones
It's okay.
Grab them by the head.
jordan holmes
All right.
This is silly.
alex jones
Flip them over your shoulder.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
Call the police, put them in the ambulance, they're dead.
I mean, that's basically what this is like.
jordan holmes
They're dead now?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what this is like.
I just...
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
I get what the point is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is that if someone jumps you, they're going to get a shot in even before you can defend yourself.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so the globalists are going to do that.
And there will be some damage that we're going to end up taking, but we'll end up throwing them into the concrete and killing them.
It's a little bit more of a play-by-play of this imaginary fight than we need.
jordan holmes
There was a lot of it.
There was a lot of it.
I am starting to think...
And you know what?
I'm noticing this more and more frequently.
All these people have had revelations by God.
They always tell me how great God is and how He can do anything that He wants to do.
But then in their revelations, they also tell me how I'm going to have to get my shit kicked all the time.
And there's nothing they can do about it, and I didn't get to see the revelation from God.
So either they're telling the truth, or God is like...
Here's what you got to do to stop this stuff.
And he just sucks at it.
dan friesen
Maybe he's just bad.
He may be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And some of that is reinforced by what's about to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, Alex has said already that God said he cannot quit.
jordan holmes
He can't.
dan friesen
He can't.
It's not his time yet.
jordan holmes
He can't quit.
dan friesen
And I cannot make this more clear.
This is coming out of nowhere.
He went to break with a very standard plug that he wants money for his legal defense fund.
But it is not angry.
It is not any more desperate than he usually is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then he comes back from break like this.
alex jones
We're going to take your calls for the rest of the hour.
We've been on air a long time.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
I've been trying my best for a long time.
unidentified
Hmm.
Hmm.
Thank you.
alex jones
I probably can't do the show now.
I gotta go.
Gotta rebroadcast ready.
I'm leaving.
Bye, everybody.
Well, I want to air this anti-Semitism thing that Gregory stood and maybe take a few more calls.
dan friesen
Anti-Semitic thing.
alex jones
And I'm going to leave for a while.
I was about to take out four or five days.
I think I'm taking off.
One month sabbatical.
I'm out of here.
dan friesen
I'm out of here.
Nothing happened.
Nothing has prompted this outburst at all.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I had to go back and I had to listen to be like, did I miss a clue that something was about to break?
Because there was no indication to me that he was about to quit.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he's very clearly in a mood, but it doesn't seem like a storming off mood.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, I mean, you could tell from the vibes that vibes were bad.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Yeah, these are not good vibes.
We're coming into sad boy territory.
dan friesen
But it does really feel like you can make it through the show.
jordan holmes
You can do your job.
dan friesen
There was a little bit of an emotion.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But other than that, there's no indications of fuck it, go to rebroadcast.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, I've gone into the bathroom and cried at work by myself, so there's no shame in doing that, and then you get right back to it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, uh, Biddy pouts.
Oh, does he pout?
jordan holmes
Oh, he stinks!
alex jones
I'm taking off.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought he was leaving.
alex jones
One month sabbatical, I'm out of here.
And then nobody will have me, and I'm not, you know, it's just time to do it.
It's time to split.
jordan holmes
Yes!
alex jones
We've been telling you this!
unidentified
I've tried as hard as I can.
alex jones
I've done everything I could.
But I can't hurt myself anymore.
dan friesen
Fucking Eeyore.
alex jones
I just can't do it anymore.
Because I'll get blamed for whatever happens to this place anyway, so watch.
I can't save it.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
unidentified
I tried.
Okay.
alex jones
At some point, you've got to admit it's over.
At some point, you've got a minute.
jordan holmes
Yes, you do.
alex jones
We'll have our nuclear war.
You can all starve in the streets.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Thank you.
alex jones
Stop trying.
dan friesen
Is it good?
alex jones
Everybody's got a party to go to.
Everybody's got some dope smoke.
jordan holmes
It's not your fault.
alex jones
I get it.
Hell, I'll go start smoking dope, maybe.
jordan holmes
Dude, please.
alex jones
Yeah, no, that's just it.
dan friesen
It's just it, man.
Just it.
I tried.
jordan holmes
I don't understand this, like...
I just don't understand taking such responsibility for something that you had no control over, no power over, and refusing to take responsibility for the things that you did actually do.
dan friesen
But we don't even know what this is prompted by.
jordan holmes
It's prompted by everything.
dan friesen
I can't do this.
jordan holmes
You know what?
The slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune.
dan friesen
We actually do find out what happened, but it's so unclear.
It takes forever for him to, like, get to the point of what he's moping about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he doesn't, well, he does, I mean, I don't know.
I actually, I'll be honest, I turned this off a little bit early.
unidentified
Good call.
dan friesen
I don't know, he said he planned to take a few more calls and then leave at the point where I decided to give up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I was just like, alright, you've done your bit, you've done your piece.
The only thing that's possibly going to happen is you're going to scream again.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And you've already done that, so you've exhausted my patience of one freakout per episode.
Right.
But he doesn't want to talk to callers about his freakout.
His little, I'm quitting, I can't save him for wars.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They're going to blame me anyway, so who gives a fuck?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And this is where we get our first clue of why Alex is having a breakdown.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, I did keep one piece of information from you, because I honestly, as I was listening to this, Initially, he didn't think it was important, so I didn't cut any clips of it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is that Alex has been planning, in the third hour, to interview Joel Gilbert.
He's the guy who made the Dreams of My Real Father movie about Obama's dad not being his dad.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then he also now apparently has a documentary about Michelle Obama being a man.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
And so...
jordan holmes
Man, that would have been real fun if he did a sequel where it was just the same, like it was a reboot, you know.
unidentified
Frank Marshall Davis is her dad.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it is not that.
But he planned to interview Joel Gilbert.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And they did notice that this wasn't happening.
And so that is part of why Alex is having a freak out.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
I don't want to hear from the callers about what I'm saying right now.
Because I'm not playing around.
Okay?
And we used to be able to fund ourselves.
jordan holmes
But then somebody...
alex jones
About once or twice a week.
Because I'd already have these authors and filmmakers on.
Once twice a week, we'd have Patriot filmmakers and authors on, and then we'd buy a couple thousand of their DVD or their book, and we'd sell it, and they'd sell some on their own site.
We'd be able to be on air.
And then we'd get that money to build the infrastructure.
And over the years, for whatever reason, we stopped ordering books and films, even though they sold.
dan friesen
Supplements, that's why.
jordan holmes
Because they have higher profit margin.
alex jones
I spent over two months.
Trying to get this film and this book, and it's incredible.
It's unbelievably powerful.
By Joel Gilbert in the store.
And since our warehouse is up in Colorado, I just kept rescheduling Joel Gilbert, just trying to get a copy of the film so I could see it.
And that took about a month.
It wasn't his fault.
He sent them to us.
So I finally got it.
I'm not complaining.
I just can't do it anymore.
And we finally got it and rescheduled it for the third time, and then...
It's the default.
It's nobody's fault.
I need a trailer for a movie I've seen.
Or in the old days, we'd make a promo.
That's my fault, isn't it?
We'd make a promo, or I'd say, I've seen this film.
It's powerful.
You need to get it.
We might sell 10,000 of these.
And then that keeps on air.
It's my fault.
See, I'm long in the tooth.
I can't do this anymore.
It's my fault.
But we're not interviewing Joel Gilbert today.
Probably never will.
I might never come back.
jordan holmes
You fucking baby!
unidentified
He's so mad because there's no trailer for Joel Gilbert's film.
jordan holmes
He's such a baby!
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Look, I can't sell this film without a fucking trailer.
alex jones
So what are we going to do?
dan friesen
I'll never talk to Joel Gilbert again.
How about that?
alex jones
I'll just never talk to him.
dan friesen
Maybe I'll leave and never come back.
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
You really kind of get the feeling, the hope that like...
There's something meaningful behind this, but it's not.
It's just, I don't have the tools available to me to sell this bullshit documentary, and so, fuck you, Joel.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And fuck all you who are listening.
jordan holmes
That is one of those behaviors that really should be the biggest and easiest red flag of, like, this person's not responsible in any facet of life.
dan friesen
The deepest hue of red.
jordan holmes
I mean, when you see that in a child, you go, that makes sense, and now here is the pivot point for your entire life.
If you learn to never do shit like that again, you're gonna be fine.
dan friesen
It's an indication of...
Something, like, some path of development not going the right way.
That you feel like you can act like this and get what you need.
jordan holmes
You cannot fit within society in any comfortable way if this is part of your thought process.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You whiny, whiny little baby.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
So anyway, everyone around Alex is incompetent.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
I might never come back.
Because I can't do it anymore, man.
I can't make every decision.
I can't run everything.
I can't sit there and say it's this way and that way, and then it's not done the next time.
I can't beg people to be here over and over again.
This crew's great.
The ones that are here, great.
I just, I just, it's...
jordan holmes
The ones that are here.
dan friesen
People are so comfortable.
alex jones
But don't worry.
You're going to have your nuclear war, you're going to have your depression, and it's not going to matter anymore.
dan friesen
You talking to the crew?
alex jones
And the good news is the left's going to burn first.
And I'm not a sadistic or vindictive person, but I am.
jordan holmes
Well, I guess we'll keep you warm.
alex jones
So all you leftists are going to starve to death and get everything you want.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
You think you're going to be running the death camps?
unidentified
You're going to be um...
Yeah, I probably shouldn't be on air.
dan friesen
I don't know if you can tell.
jordan holmes
Did he just say, I probably shouldn't be on air?
dan friesen
Yeah, he did.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I probably shouldn't be on air.
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, man.
dan friesen
I do think that we're talking about certain forms of hell.
And I think a particular form of hell is being in the situation Alex is in where no one gives a shit about him.
Yeah.
Anybody who had people who cared about them would not allow them to behave this way in public.
You would have people who are concerned for you and stop you from acting like this.
And he just doesn't have anyone who cares.
jordan holmes
I mean, it really is, yeah.
It makes sense for, if you're inside of it, to think people enabling you in this way is them rewarding you.
And so, you know, people who reward you care about you.
If people care about you, they give you a reward.
It's very simple.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, but...
Whenever people are allowing you to do shit like this, it's because they absolutely do not give a fuck about you.
dan friesen
And there might be some marginal amount of benefit they get out of enabling you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's more valuable to them than your well-being.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Your reputation.
jordan holmes
Just like being with you.
It is a complete transaction if you behave this way.
dan friesen
And so, this leads me to a theory about why Rogan and Musk don't want to be around him.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any reason.
dan friesen
He acts like this.
It's fucking annoying.
jordan holmes
Can't think of any reason.
dan friesen
Anyway, Joel Gilbert, you should buy his film.
alex jones
All right.
I'm going to come back and take phone calls.
I apologize to Joel Gilbert for not having him on.
It's not his fault.
It's my fault.
jordan holmes
It is your fault.
alex jones
I should have had a trailer ready.
I should have been ready.
I should have done that.
unidentified
But we may never have him on.
alex jones
Who knows?
But you can get his film and his book.
It's an amazing film.
Michelle Obama.
She's a horrible person.
Find out her secrets.
Only the truth can stop her.
And the book, Michelle Obama 2024.
The book's available at InfoWarsStore.com and that keeps us.
Broadcast on air.
They're definitely trying to get her ready to rumble, Gavin Newsom.
dan friesen
I'm sold on this book.
I'm excited for it based on that sales pitch.
jordan holmes
This reminds me of that Patton Oswalt bit about the comedy magician getting short-charged.
Bah!
And next bit!
Bah!
There we go!
dan friesen
They're doing angry magic.
jordan holmes
Bah!
dan friesen
Just a mopey sales pitch.
It's a good book.
Let me never have him on.
I accidentally bought a ton of his book to sell at a cut rate.
We bought it on consignment.
And now we need to move them.
But we weren't prepared to do this interview so I don't have the promotional material available.
So it's not going to work.
And maybe Joel didn't want to come on unless they were able to present the book right.
I don't know.
Who knows exactly what the behind the scenes thing was.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
But now Alex is like, I gotta fucking sell these books, but I don't want to do this interview.
Buy the fucking book, it's good.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is just like, hey, we'll do the interview now, and then we can play it again with the trailer tomorrow.
dan friesen
And I want to say, I don't know if this is going to make Alex feel better, but I'm doing my part.
I bought his book.
Not Joel Gilbert's, but I bought Alex's book.
jordan holmes
It's true.
dan friesen
So, I mean, come on, man.
Cheer up.
jordan holmes
You could do a promo with Gilbert there during the interview.
He's cut so many promos.
dan friesen
That's what makes it so mysterious to me.
There has to be something else that happened.
Whether it's Joel had some kind of a thing where it's like, you said you were going to make a trailer and you didn't.
Thereby, you're breaching our contract.
Much like Alex is breaching his contract with God by saying he's going to quit.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And not doing that.
dan friesen
There has to be some behind-the-scenes thing that isn't quite being picked up.
jordan holmes
Because it can't just be we need to reschedule the interview.
dan friesen
No.
You said you rescheduled three times.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, look.
Alex is upset.
alex jones
Obviously, I'm upset.
And a lot of stuff's going on.
That's just the way it is.
And that's just the way it's going to have to be.
jordan holmes
That's just the way it's going to go down.
alex jones
It is what it is.
But everybody's going to take things serious real soon.
And then you will face God.
And nothing's gonna stop there.
dan friesen
Alright, man.
jordan holmes
This is what somebody in the office mutters beneath their breath after they get the mildest of criticisms about the work they did.
dan friesen
You're gonna face God soon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like, no, dude, I just need you to...
14 point.
You're typing 12, 14 point, that's all I need from you.
dan friesen
Well, I'm upset.
And that's how it's going to be?
jordan holmes
You can't be upset.
dan friesen
And that's just how it is.
Well, you'll meet God soon.
Anyway, Alex doesn't take calls.
He does take some calls eventually, but instead of taking calls, he does this.
alex jones
So I need everybody to understand that, are you going to give up?
Are you going to go along with this?
Because if you don't support our broadcast...
jordan holmes
Will you talk to me?
alex jones
If you don't buy the products at Forrestware.com...
dan friesen
Alex, you quit earlier.
alex jones
If you don't go to DefendJones.com and make a straight donation so I can pay my bills and I'm upside down, then I am forced to go underground.
dan friesen
So look, I don't know what that means.
jordan holmes
I'm forced to go underground?
dan friesen
I have to pause this for a second because I just had a flash of imagination that I think is really awesome.
Alex, if he wants to make all the money...
And he wants to get all the attention.
Go viral.
You need to do a cover of Destiny's Child's Bills, Bills, Bills.
alex jones
Can you pay my lawyer bills?
dan friesen
Can you pay my automobiles?
alex jones
I don't think you do.
dan friesen
So, I'm gonna quit.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Alright, I like it.
dan friesen
If he wanted to, think about how many people would post that.
That would be all over the place.
jordan holmes
That would be all over the place.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he could even wear wigs.
The wigs would do it.
dan friesen
He doesn't have to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, he has to.
dan friesen
I think that there's a lot of potential there.
He could also do a cover of Bugaboo about Soros or Klaus Schwab.
jordan holmes
The worry I have is the more you say these things, the more likely I feel like Alex is going to wind up in blackface.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it would be tough for him to resist.
jordan holmes
It's a very short walk to get from there to being like, no, no, no, I'll black up.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no!
dan friesen
But I just think with bills, bills, bills, there is a perfect thing to threaten the audience with, like, you have to pay my lawyer bills, work the automobiles into it for the tank.
jordan holmes
That's tough.
dan friesen
No, it works.
jordan holmes
I mean, I know it's...
dan friesen
You just need the visual of the tank to accompany the automobiles.
jordan holmes
Sure, that was just an original criticism I had of Destiny's Child's show.
dan friesen
That's true.
I don't think you do.
So the world is gonna be nuked.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
alex jones
And I am forced because you quitting is me quitting.
unidentified
You quit.
alex jones
And I guess I can sit here on air until they put chains on the doors and the lights go out.
jordan holmes
What is the sound of one hand quitting?
alex jones
And then that will really show you, oh look, they really shut down.
But the way they've set it up is I get completely exhausted.
By the time that even takes place.
So I need your support at defendjones.com.
I'm in the hole.
Well over a million and a half dollars.
And I don't have ways to pay this stuff.
jordan holmes
I should hope it's a lot more than that.
alex jones
And if people don't think this shows a value, and people don't think they want to get this on air, then take me out of the game.
I'm ready right now.
And I'm not going to tolerate anybody around me that doesn't realize the war we're in.
Defendjones.com.
Alright, I did that live on air.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
That's a three-minute ad I just cut.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
I'm gonna run that on the network, and we'll see what happens.
dan friesen
All right, I just did some passive-aggressive moping about how people need to give me money.
Cut that, turn that into an ad so I don't have to come in and do any extra work outside of the time that I'm on air.
jordan holmes
That is fucking amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah, what a fucking loser.
Just amazing.
Also, I don't know if that's the best sales pitch.
jordan holmes
Oh, maybe you don't.
I don't want my lucky charms anymore.
Well, then fuck you!
Fuck you!
Eat your own goddamn cereals!
alex jones
Oh, eat your honey nut!
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
It's a whiny sales pitch.
jordan holmes
Eat your Twix!
It's every one of you for kids!
No!
dan friesen
If Alex is saying...
jordan holmes
Please come back.
I've got more lucky charms for you.
dan friesen
If Alex is saying that, like, you know, I quit.
I can't do this anymore.
Fuck this shit.
Oh, Elon Musk and Rogan are doing what I've done and they're going to be able to do it better than me?
Why would you give him money?
jordan holmes
I mean, this is...
Don't!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, we have one last clip because after that point I was like, oh, you're just going to cut commercials with your sad ass on air?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't want to listen to this.
But I heard this and I thought it was really funny so I had to include it.
alex jones
And I'm not even depressed.
We've had devastating victories against the enemy and at a certain point, like your 45-year-old quarterback...
That's the equivalent of being an 85-year-old man in the regular world.
You've got to hang your spurs up.
But there's not a sense of urgency.
Oh, Alex will always carry us through.
Alex will always do it.
Or people think, oh, well, Infowars is going down.
You know, even some of the crew.
I'll just show up three days a week.
Jones will put up with it.
He's a candy ass.
He's a nice guy.
No, he won't.
You're going to get fired.
unidentified
So there's some trouble with the crew.
jordan holmes
Now that's how you do it.
That's how you do it.
Congratulations.
unidentified
Send a message to a specific employee on air.
dan friesen
You think I'm a candy ass?
Instead of talking to you, I'm going to put you on blast by vaguely mentioning you on air.
jordan holmes
See, I love that.
I love that.
In every possible...
I love the worker's choice.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I love...
Hey, listen.
This place is going down.
I'm not going to care.
But also, if I quit, I don't have any money.
So fuck it, I'll just show up and if I get paid, I get paid.
I don't care.
dan friesen
Love it.
I was a temp at Groupon for periods of time.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so there were actually two stretches of time that I worked there.
jordan holmes
You were a temp for long enough to be a borderline perm.
dan friesen
Well, I did actually get hired eventually, but it took such a fucking fight.
But the first time that I was there as a temp, we were brought...
And then they made the announcement that they were going to eliminate this department, this entire department that we were working in.
But they thought that they would be ready to go sooner than they were.
They thought that they had the things in place to automate the department, but they didn't.
jordan holmes
So we gotta ask you guys to stick around a little bit.
dan friesen
Right, so a lot of us were temps, and we were there basically until they decided they didn't need us anymore.
And they'd already been, like, they'd shown their ass by being like, even the people who are employee employees, you're not gonna have a job.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
And so that environment just led to, like, well...
jordan holmes
Why the fuck would I care?
dan friesen
We have you over a barrel, basically.
You can't possibly do anything about our behavior.
So you'd show up at noon.
It did not matter at all.
jordan holmes
Come fucking get me.
dan friesen
No one could do anything about it, basically.
And the people who were supposed to be your presumptive supervisors, they had already been told that their department's going to be gone, so they don't care to punish you.
It was...
unidentified
Madness.
Yeah.
dan friesen
For a window of time there, because Groupon made that horrible administrative decision.
jordan holmes
Bad idea.
dan friesen
And that's kind of what I feel like it must be like at InfoWard right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to be.
It has to be.
It's an apocalypse.
Like, you're watching a slow-motion apocalypse happen, and your boss is the literal fucking devil.
dan friesen
It's a free-for-all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
And your boss is a candy ass.
jordan holmes
Show up three days.
Yeah, I'll show up three days.
What are you going to do about it?
dan friesen
Oh, so passive-aggressive.
unidentified
So passive-aggressive.
jordan holmes
I could not be.
If that was how I made it onto Infowars proper, if that was the only way.
dan friesen
If you are that employee.
Please email us.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
We will protect your anonymity.
jordan holmes
100%.
Congratulations to you.
dan friesen
Knowledgefight at gmail.com.
Please send us an email.
We would love to congratulate you.
Great.
Privately.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just feel like there's an image of nobody.
There's a real Rodney Dangerfield-y vibe to Alex on this episode.
No one respects him.
Elon Musk and Rogan don't respect him enough.
God certainly does, and the second-tier version of the Holy Spirit.
jordan holmes
I know, I don't respect him.
dan friesen
There's clearly some dissension around the workplace.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Tough times.
jordan holmes
I mean, if I had watched the...
Don't let Owen go to jail the way they did.
I think I would definitely be like, I don't care for people here.
dan friesen
If I were a person who was an idealistic true believer, and I saw Owen be treated that way, it would be a wake-up moment.
If I was someone who was just there for a gig, it wouldn't affect me much, because I would just be like...
I don't really give a shit.
jordan holmes
What did you think was going to happen?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is on you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But that would have an effect of probably shaking my faith if I was invested.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I imagine we'll see if it shakes his.
dan friesen
Alex's?
jordan holmes
No.
Oh.
dan friesen
Nah.
I mean, if he's calling in from jail, he's probably like...
jordan holmes
Oh, is he calling in from jail?
dan friesen
That's what Alex said about the solitary confinement thing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently called in from jail.
Jesus.
But if he's doing that, then he's still invested in creating the narratives along with Alex.
So they may have come to an understanding of some sort.
jordan holmes
Disgusting.
dan friesen
But Alex did scream...
I don't remember if we talked about it on air, but he did talk about how he can't pay Owen because the bankruptcy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The bankruptcy court says he can't pay Owen.
jordan holmes
They're the ones who are paying everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
They run his business now.
dan friesen
I think there's a half-truth to that.
But I also think that you can tell the bankruptcy court, this guy's on retainer.
He's an important employee of mine.
Now, here's another thing.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't be surprised if he was still paying Jerome Corsi somehow.
Just by a fucking accident.
dan friesen
Here's another thing.
If Alex does go on...
We're recording this on Thursday the 2nd, so we didn't have time to know what he did on his show if he decided to go on his month.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But if he does...
What are you going to do?
You've already got Harrison Smith hosting the war room because Owen's in jail.
You've got Chase Geyser down here in the American Journal.
What do you do with Alex's show if he goes?
jordan holmes
I think you have to raise Chase Geyser up to the headline.
Harrison Smith can't be on the headline show!
dan friesen
No, you can't.
Chase Geyser is a better choice, and we know nothing about him.
jordan holmes
Nothing about him.
Right.
If he had his mouth sewn shut, better choice.
dan friesen
Here's the thing, though.
What do you do?
Do you try and bring in a big guy?
None like Steven Crowder.
And have him host your show.
But then you risk the possibility that they do a better job than you.
jordan holmes
Can't do that.
dan friesen
And then you're hosed when you're trying to come back.
jordan holmes
No, that's not happening.
dan friesen
What do you do?
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what you do.
dan friesen
You do it like The Daily Show have a rotating cast of hosts.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
You know it.
I know it.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
There's one man floundering.
There's one man doesn't know where to go.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
There's one man who can save InfoWars.
unidentified
Trump?
jordan holmes
And he was just on Theo Vaughn's podcast.
I'm talking about Tucker Carlson.
That's right.
Info Tucker Wars.
dan friesen
Now that is interesting.
I think that would be maybe mutually beneficial.
jordan holmes
I think so too.
I think it actually, for all of the shit that we have talked about, all of this shit, I think at this point in time, Alex and Tucker do probably make sense together.
dan friesen
And I think that Tucker being a fill-in for Alex, He would be able to, in some ways, pretend that he's above it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And I think...
jordan holmes
And he'd have organized airtime as opposed to just some dumb Twitter views show, which nobody likes, and also was the wrong platform to do it on at the exact same time as some weirdo evil billionaire decided to destroy it because he didn't masturbate enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do think that there's...
Tucker needs something other than Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Dude, I mean, if there is a pitch for someone who could fill in for Alex when he goes for a month, it would be Tucker.
But the problem is Alex couldn't then come back.
Because I think that Tucker would probably reveal to them how bad Alex is at the job.
jordan holmes
Well, I think, one, I don't think it would be too big of a deal there.
Because everybody already watches both.
Everybody knows the difference between Alex and Tucker.
dan friesen
Ooh, big problem.
Can't afford him.
jordan holmes
Well, that's definitely a big problem.
dan friesen
Yeah, not even close.
jordan holmes
I'm talking about for Tucker, though.
dan friesen
To do it pro bono?
jordan holmes
Yeah, because he comes in, it shows off like he's rescuing Infowars, like he's a fucking serious hero on this case.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He doesn't need money on account of he's a...
Billionaire or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's doing this out of the goodness of his heart.
jordan holmes
Money doesn't even exist for Tucker.
It's just a way for him to compare balls with other rich dudes.
dan friesen
Now, if Alex and Tucker were friends like he says they are, this is something that I could see as being a possibility.
jordan holmes
I would do it, yeah.
It would be the smart thing to do, but it's not going to happen.
Because Alex is a giant piece of shit.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's a smart thing to do, but it's an interesting next development for these folks.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Which is something that they're lacking very seriously right now.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, that's why I would say there's very little difference between the two of those at this point in time.
Interesting development is the smart move for anybody.
dan friesen
If Tucker did end up coming in, he would have access to people like Bolsonaro or like Orban.
These people that Alex idealizes in some ways, but they wouldn't go on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
But InfoWars starring Tucker Carlson, they might.
jordan holmes
Yep.
And because that gets them on InfoWars, Alex gets to, by proxy, have all of everything he's ever believed confirmed.
See, I was always talking to these people because I've been talking to Tucker.
dan friesen
Right, the transitive property.
jordan holmes
And now they've been on InfoWars, so I am right.
dan friesen
Of the things we've pitched, I would rather see the Destiny's Child cover.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
So let's hope for that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Sands blackface.
dan friesen
Yes, definitely.
That's implied.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This episode's a mess.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's still very surreal that we can listen to a man whine for this long as a job.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
And that's coming from both sides.
It's his job and it's our job.
dan friesen
And very little, like, actual content.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He can stretch it out.
dan friesen
Just a day at the office.
jordan holmes
Well, it's...
Maybe one out of, three out of five days at the office.
dan friesen
Well, maybe that's why he had to get his own coffee when Nick Fuentes was there.
unidentified
That could be.
dan friesen
Because that one guy didn't show up.
unidentified
Because that guy wasn't there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I can see that being, maybe it could be the camera operator, which is why he had to, nope.
Okay, hold on.
I'm trying to, I'm looking on Alex's site to see if he was in today.
If he was in the office.
I'm not seeing anything.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
This is dumb.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
With another episode, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
There's still no bit here.
unidentified
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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