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#859: January 20, 2010

In this installment, Dan and Jordan go on a time travel adventure suggested by DJ Danarchy.  This episode has it all: Alex complaining about Glenn Beck, Alex whining about Glenn Beck, and even Alex whining about how he doesn't want to complain about Glenn Beck.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
25:46
d
dan friesen
49:47
j
jordan holmes
27:17
Appearances
Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
I like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is...
I'm a little bit late to this, but there's a new season of Survivor that has started.
jordan holmes
Oh, whoa, whoa.
dan friesen
And so I've been watching that a little bit.
And...
unidentified
One of the worst casts I've ever seen in my life.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
Is it a bad one?
dan friesen
I thought three people at least were gonna die in the first week.
unidentified
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Like, people who had no business being...
jordan holmes
Oh, so not, like, reality annoying characters.
Like, they're bad at survival-ing characters.
dan friesen
I think that I found them somewhat...
Grading.
jordan holmes
Grading.
unidentified
Well, that'll happen.
dan friesen
A number of the people who were on this season.
I couldn't find any real, like, shining, like, ah, I'm excited to see how this plays out.
There was just a bunch of people, I'm like, I think you're all gonna quit.
And then in the first episode, one of them did quit.
And I just, I don't know.
It's strange.
It's strange, because I think that I've been spoiled a little bit when it comes to these kinds of competition shows by The Challenge.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because they compete.
Like, say what you want about that show.
They go hard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they have really figured out a way to get those people to just really act...
Just in insane ways.
dan friesen
And all of the people are, you know, for the most part, physical specimens.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
You know, they spend a lot of time working out and are in peak, like, optimal fuck-around game condition.
jordan holmes
And in a space where you're like, it is a good thing you have the challenge because there's no other reason in your life for you to ever be this fit.
Yeah.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
Meanwhile, on Survivor, you have people from all walks of life.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so, like, sometimes watching them try to do these competitions is like, I can't watch this.
jordan holmes
Just who's better at starving today?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I don't know.
It's a very strange thing because there's a two-pronged thing.
I've always liked to see people outside and trying to survive.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
It's an interesting thing.
And I'll enjoy Survivor.
I'll go ahead and continue watching it until it goes away.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I've already invested this deeply.
What am I going to do?
But...
It is a little bit dull.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And when the characters aren't doing it for you, holy shit.
jordan holmes
It's tough.
It's tough.
It's hard to suddenly just be like, oh, I don't think I can...
You know what?
And I'm going to throw this out there.
I'm done with people baking.
I just don't give a shit anymore.
dan friesen
There's only so much you can bake.
jordan holmes
I hit the point.
dan friesen
I think I would still be interested in the Great British Bake Off, but just because it's so calming.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I think that's what happened.
It makes me angry now that I can't find it calming.
I don't find it calming.
dan friesen
It's like me and reggae.
jordan holmes
You're all trying to be calming when you all know that there's a second layer.
Everybody's aware of what it is that they are.
Keep the formula while not...
dan friesen
I think you ruined things by branching out into that great pottery show and all those other ones.
I think you went too far afield.
If you would have just stayed with the baking, I think you'd be okay.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But, yeah.
jordan holmes
Did we just explain Mormon?
Not Mormon.
Ah, shit.
Never mind.
Amish.
Yeah, fuck me.
dan friesen
All right.
Well, Amish are just out there trying to survive, too.
Much like people on Survivor.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Bringing it back around.
jordan holmes
Rumspringa.
Rumspringa thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
Never mind.
So, yeah.
I don't know.
I'm really not looking forward to this season, but I'm going to watch it.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
unidentified
Oh, wait.
dan friesen
No, I forgot.
I had a thought that I lost, but it's this.
Last season.
There's this guy named Bruce who seemed like a very charismatic 40s-ish kind of guy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he hit his head on something in the first episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he was bleeding from the face.
And he ended up having to be medevaced from the show because he had a severe concussion.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think, as I recall, I haven't watched that season since it came out, but I remember he was muttering stuff and people were like, I think you need help.
jordan holmes
Oh, is he back?
dan friesen
He got a chance to come back on this next season.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's so weird, because people have been medevaced before, and they don't necessarily get another shot the next season.
So it's strange that he's being afforded that.
And then it also just creates this bizarre dynamic between everybody, because they've watched that season, and they're aware that this guy knocked himself out and got another chance.
And so they're treating him like he's not just another person who's on the show, but at the same time he is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is strange.
dan friesen
It's not fair to him, I think.
jordan holmes
That is strange.
dan friesen
It's not fair to anybody.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I'm not interested in the dynamic.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, Dan, I can see.
I can see using my eyes.
I got new glasses.
dan friesen
This was your bright spot in one of our live shows.
jordan holmes
No, it was my bright spot because I had contacts.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
I finally got a new pair of glasses that replaced my lost pair of glasses.
dan friesen
Yeah, and they're kind of green.
jordan holmes
They're kind of green.
I like them.
I like them a lot.
When they're not on my eyes, I can't see them.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that was why you couldn't tell that they were kind of green.
jordan holmes
Well, they told me they were kind of green.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So I assumed, and then it wasn't until later that I realized that I wouldn't be able to tell, so I asked you.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I can confirm they're a little bit green.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're a little green.
I like them.
dan friesen
They seem like they're thicker lenses than the last ones, but maybe I never really took too close of a look at your old ones.
jordan holmes
They're thicker rims by a wide march, so they're bigger and they're thicker rims, so the lenses, because my eyes are so terrible, the lenses, whenever I had the smaller, fairer glasses, they had to contort them in weird ways.
dan friesen
But that should make the new lenses look smaller.
Or those ones look bigger, because you had smaller rims.
jordan holmes
Right.
If you looked at them from the side, the other ones looked like they were four inches long.
Yeah.
No, these are good.
I can see further around my eyes.
dan friesen
Did you get an eight-minute exam to get those?
jordan holmes
No, they gave me the full exam.
They gave me the full exam this time.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
They even...
I told them, I mean, every time, every time it's like, guys, we can skip over the...
They just never do.
They just always have to do it.
dan friesen
They love it.
jordan holmes
They just love hitting you in the face with that air blast.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
Congratulations on the eyes.
Thank you.
But, yeah, before we do that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So I don't want to spoil anything about what our episode is going to be.
So first, Jarrah Cat and the horse he rode in on.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, there are too many wonks today.
I just can't get into it.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Got a little bit of Alex at the end there.
Next, thank you for the Dixie Kong love, the only good character I know who shares my given name.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Imagine being born named Dixie Kong.
That's just...
jordan holmes
Not a lot of positive Dixie Kongs in culture these days.
dan friesen
It's true.
Next, Austin Rose.
Happy anniversary.
Derek says, Andy in Kansas.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And curse you, Kingsley.
I was just here for the gummy bears.
Now I'm a wonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to right-wing cruelty isn't a bug, it's a feature.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So now, Jordan, we have a situation.
We're doing an episode today that we were going to do last time.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But there was breaking news, and Alex did that special report that was so disgraceful.
jordan holmes
Horror.
dan friesen
And so I had to boot this to now.
And what we're doing today is a special episode for DJ Danarchy.
Yay!
I talked a little shit on one of our episodes for fun, and I did send an apology email that if you, hey, I hope you didn't take this the wrong way.
jordan holmes
Of course you did.
dan friesen
And of course Dan Arco was totally fine.
But, also, I got an email.
That Dan Arkey would like us to cover an episode from January 20th, 2010, because it has, quote, sheer stupidity in it.
alex jones
All right.
dan friesen
And I think we could all use a little bit of sheer stupidity, a little bit of a break.
jordan holmes
I believe him.
dan friesen
And also, this is where some drops that have been used that we haven't talked about on the episodes, or we haven't covered on our show, but Dan Arkey is used in things.
Some of the drops are from this episode.
jordan holmes
This is like a backstory.
This is a lore.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But I figure we all need a little bit of fun.
jordan holmes
I'm down.
dan friesen
And so thank you, Dan Arkey, for making those themes for us when we were in the UK and just in general.
The themes are always so wonderful.
And so here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
You're under mind control, folks.
I am sane.
I am sane.
You are insane.
If you don't look at these facts and your humanity's gone for some of you out there that don't understand.
dan friesen
You're insane.
I'm sane.
jordan holmes
I appreciate...
I just don't understand how you can live in a year that begins with a two and not go, the moment I've said you're insane and I'm sane, the whole thing should stop.
Everyone should just stop.
Everyone should be like, hold on.
I get what that sounds like.
Let's restart.
dan friesen
Can't you see?
Through the mind control.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
Stop.
Reset.
dan friesen
So, today we have...
Basically one large theme that goes over the course of the show.
And then there's a couple of mini things that I don't even think are worth talking about.
Because the major theme is just that important.
jordan holmes
That you are sane and I am insane.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Or I am sane and you are insane.
dan friesen
The insanity plays into it, for sure.
But no, it's that Alex couldn't sleep last night.
jordan holmes
Oh, that makes sense.
dan friesen
And he might have had a vision and a download from God.
alex jones
We're going to be live here for the next four hours.
I'll tell you about some of the guest information we're going to be covering today here in just a moment.
But last night I did a radio interview, went to bed at about midnight, and at 3.35 a.m.
I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep.
And I just sat there in the dark for hours thinking about this country, the planet, what we're up against.
And I just had this overwhelming feeling, you know, in the quiet stillness of the night, that I'm not living up to the real potential of what I'm supposed to do.
And that I'm not doing the job I should be doing in the incredible position I'm in.
And one person was in my mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, one person was in his mind.
He was sitting there at 3.30 in the morning, couldn't fall back to sleep, sitting in his living room for hours, staring at the wall, realizing he's not doing a good enough job in his career, realizing that he is failing his potential, and one person is just on the tip of his brain.
jordan holmes
One?
I don't know why.
I feel like it's going to be Rod Paul.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
I think this confirms such a terrible...
I don't know quite how to describe it.
You know that idea of somebody doing something horrible and just having no qualms about it, just continuing on doing horrible shit, and you're like, well, at least there's a certain amount of envy there.
The idea that Alex has spent so much time wracked with guilt over doing his job poorly and still does not change even the slightest little bit of it is almost a terrifying nightmare in and of itself, right?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's self-reported.
That's a good point.
I don't know if I believe this necessarily.
It's a good dramatic picture for him to paint, but I don't know if he was staring at the wall for hours.
It is.
That's a...
I must say, I am saying you are insane, Alex.
jordan holmes
I like the idea now of like a Faustian bargain, but Faust was just fucking with the devil the whole time.
He's like, oh, this is a tragedy.
Oh, I'm struggling with my actions.
Oh, my God, it's terrible.
Oh, my God, this is so great.
I love this.
Oh, being the devil is awesome.
dan friesen
It'd be a little different.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
So this one person.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's on his mind.
I feel like it's very easy to get shades of the Tucker Carlson's The Most Important Man in the World thing.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I wish that that was how this played out.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Because I would love to tease that out and drive you nuts with it.
But Alex reveals who this person is immediately.
alex jones
One person was in my mind.
And that was Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck is the counterfeit of what I am.
I'm a real person.
And I'm a flawed individual like everyone else.
And I...
Many times, I don't think I deserve the incredible platform I have.
dan friesen
I agree!
alex jones
And I've really rationalized to myself and lied to myself over the years.
And tried to play down my importance, though I have all this deep political and geopolitical and historical understanding.
A lot of times we're blind.
We have blind spots when it comes to ourselves.
As much good as we've done, as many people as we've woken up, the world is far too dangerous and too important a time, and I just pray to God.
I pray to God to help me be strong.
I pray to God to help me be focused and true and to really be able to articulate to people what I understand.
dan friesen
And that is that Glenn Beck is fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
I'm real.
dan friesen
He's fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It is like an alien learned how to make frequencies make our words.
Uh-huh.
Because...
He keeps saying words and they make sense in my brain and I hear them and I go, yes, those are words that when you put them together they make sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But I know he doesn't mean them.
alex jones
Well, he means some of them.
jordan holmes
They're not real.
dan friesen
He means some of them and I think he means I feel...
That I'm real.
And I feel that Glenn Beck is a rip-off of me.
And I think actually some of those feelings are merited.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe not that Alex is real, but that Glenn Beck was ripping some of his shit off.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I think that Glenn Beck had a number of other things he was also doing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But there was a derivative nature to...
Great period of Glenn Beck's show.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, if you're Alex, you can say other people are ripping you off, but the moment you get into a who's ripping off who conversation, you get real quiet.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's right in this case that Glenn Beck is somewhat ripping him off, and I don't think it's a two-way street, because I don't think he's ripping off Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he is ripping off...
Bill Cooper, he's ripping off all the John Birch Society forefathers.
There is a thing that he's Father Coughlin, Lord Ha Ha, other Nazi propagandists.
jordan holmes
I'm part of a rich tapestry of assholes.
You're stealing our gig, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't like you.
But he doesn't listen much.
He doesn't listen to Glenn Beck's show much.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
But he knows that Glenn Beck is always talking about it.
alex jones
You know, I don't tune into Glenn Beck more than once or twice a week.
jordan holmes
It still seems too much.
alex jones
Because I'm so busy running my own radio show, doing radio interviews, making films, producing videos.
To really keep track of what he's doing, I mainly spend most of my time reading legislation and what's happening around the world.
But every time I tune in, it just blows me away how transparent he is.
What a Benedict Arnold he is.
I tuned in yesterday for five minutes because I get ready at home, then I drive into work, get here about 30 minutes to an hour generally before the show starts.
And so I'm driving in and I tune into different talk stations around the state just to get a feel for what's going on there.
And yesterday he was talking about how we need new taxes.
He was doing it in his last hour to pay off the banks.
And how that's conservative to have taxes raised instead of cutting government or instead of arresting the bankers.
And then this morning, I tuned in for five minutes.
And he was saying that 9-11 truthers are going to infiltrate the White House and kill Barack Obama.
I mean, what type of...
I can't keep track of it all.
I don't have the time to watch this guy every time I tune in.
It's pure evil.
Mixed with a bunch of patriot talk.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pure evil mixed with patriot talk.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
I do think that listening to Glenn Beck two to three times a week means you listen fairly regularly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Checking in on him.
I mean, I guess if it's just for five minutes, that isn't that much.
But it's still regular.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'll say this.
I'll say this.
2010 Jordan listens to somebody say, oh, 9-11 truthers are going to assassinate Obama.
Laughs.
Hilarity.
Right.
2020-23 hears that, goes, if you just said, if he had said 9-11 truthers are going to hang Mike Pence, he would have been 100% accurate.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then I go like, I don't know if I should ever laugh again.
I don't know what anything means ever.
What is happening?
dan friesen
So I can explain this one.
He's fairly accurately portraying Glenn Beck's words.
I found this clip of Glenn Beck talking.
And it's interesting because what he's saying isn't accurate.
Alex is saying that Glenn Beck was saying that 9-11 truthers are going to infiltrate and then kill Obama.
And the reality is that...
At this point in history, in 2010, Glenn Beck was convinced that Obama's special advisor for green jobs, Van Jones, was a 9-11 truther.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex kind of knows this, but he's not really wrestling with the fact that this is what Beck is talking about.
He's not talking about Luke Radowski trying to get in the Obama administration and kill him as a 9/11 truther.
jordan holmes
There's a Van Jones already there ready to take the shot?
Is that what we're talking about here?
dan friesen
That's basically it.
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So this was Glenn Beck coming up with an anti-left wing conspiracy where Obama was being blackmailed by the far left to not moderate.
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
Please tell me that we did that.
dan friesen
It didn't.
jordan holmes
It would have been such a good move on our part.
dan friesen
This is actually a conspiracy that I think sounds right at home on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The only problem is at this point in time, Beck wasn't on board with the 9-11 truthers.
He was pretending to be above that whole rabble.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So because of that, he used the name 9-11 truther to attack Van Jones, and in the process, Alex's feelings got hurt.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's why we're here, and he couldn't sleep last night.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he stared at the wall for hours.
jordan holmes
Right.
So, Glenn Beck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Making fun of the far left for 9-11 truth ring and at the same time trying to convince people that they're insane.
dan friesen
I'm not certain that I would characterize it as making fun of.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sweeps up Alex in the undertow.
Finds himself with a little Alex attached to a little aluminum cans six-pack thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, and because Alex identifies as this 9-11 truther, he thinks that Beck is saying that he's going to kill Obama, or his associates who just have questions about 9-11.
jordan holmes
I find it interesting.
We can go back and track Alex's ability to engage with what Glenn Beck is actually saying.
I feel like every couple of years he has a completely different thing that he either understood or completely misunderstood.
And then he's like, I hate Glenn Beck.
Actually, Glenn Beck's a great friend of mine.
I hate Glenn Beck.
And it has nothing to do with what Glenn Beck actually said, ever.
dan friesen
Not usually, no.
And I want to be clear, if you listen to this episode, Alex does know that he's talking about Van Jones.
So there is an awareness of that, but that's not how he's presenting.
He wants the audience to experience this as.
And so that's a little bit.
It's a mess.
Also considering that Glenn Beck had the Blaze and he used to employ Steven Crowder and now Alex is on the Mug Club with Steven Crowder.
There's more direct lines between them these days than...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Than you would have thought back in 2010.
jordan holmes
The churn of far-right lunacy is...
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, we're used to tech issues on the show.
jordan holmes
We've heard of them.
dan friesen
But here we find a unique one.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
Also, new developments on the Austin Gun Show being shut down.
And so, I'm just pausing because playing in my ear is thunderstorms.
And I'm sitting here on air and there's thunderstorms going off in my ear.
So I was asking the guys if they could hear that.
It's gone now.
Did you guys hear that?
That's really strange.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a white noise.
So yeah, he has difficulty with this, and it ends up being an issue with his microphone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
And so they do end up resolving this, but it does require him to go off air.
And so he throws it to a song, The Revolution.
unidentified
Wake up, boys, there's a candle on the window.
dan friesen
Gotta do it.
So before he does that, though, he explains his feelings about Glenn Beck in a way...
I didn't really expect that this is what was under the surface for him.
alex jones
The people are waking up, so that's an incredibly positive thing that is going on.
But the other issue is, what do we do, though, because the establishment is taking on our political coloration, but is absolutely guaranteed to betray us.
And so where does this go in the political process?
I mean, this is the big issue.
We have the people's attention.
The people are in the process of really getting educated and waking up.
But the system is coming in with their full bag of tricks.
We're going to figure out what's going on technically, and then we'll be right back.
But this song is for you out there fighting for liberty and freedom.
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dan friesen
I did not expect that the presentation of this would be that Alex is so popular and the public is so into what he's doing that the establishment has had to create a fake hymn in Glenn Beck in order to lure people away or something.
That's interesting because it's not just somebody who's a crass opportunist who's using like, hey, you know what?
Here's a character, like stealing a gimmick in wrestling.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's not just that.
Someone going into business for themselves by stealing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is the globalists have created Glenn Beck as a fraudulent Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's nuts.
jordan holmes
It would be, I mean, it raises the stakes so much higher, you know, like if I'm me watching somebody and they're doing like the five minutes that I have on YouTube or whatever, I'm sitting there going like, man, They should have stolen from somebody better.
Uh-huh.
Instead of being like, well, obviously the globalists grew a me in a lab in order to do five minutes of material slightly worse than me, to tarnish my reputation for average comedy.
dan friesen
I don't know if I've ever mentioned this on the show.
I can't remember what we have and haven't talked about, but did I ever tell you about there was another guy named Dan Friesen?
There was a comedian or an aspiring comedian in Canada.
I got an email from him one day.
He was in high school.
He was a younger guy.
And he was like, I found your video online.
Am I going to do your routine at the talent show or whatever?
I'm like, you probably shouldn't do that.
And his rationale was that we have the same name.
jordan holmes
You got the same name!
Can't prove anything!
dan friesen
I was like, that's interesting.
jordan holmes
That is some Sovereign Citizen level thinking.
dan friesen
That's probably going to hurt me more in the long run.
Yeah, I'm not sure what ended up happening with that.
jordan holmes
He's doing an interesting show.
I think you'll like his podcast.
It's called Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen
As I recall, he ended up being a background extra in a Dunkin' Donuts commercial.
And then I think also an extra in an Underworld film.
And that's where we lost track of each other.
jordan holmes
That actually I am jealous of.
I would have liked to have been in an underworld film.
dan friesen
Would you like to be a vampire or a lycan?
jordan holmes
Boy, you know, it goes back and forth.
If you stick with the lore, sometimes you're the vampires, they're the good guys.
Sometimes you're the lycans, they're the good guys.
dan friesen
I think I would be a vampire.
jordan holmes
You know what it is?
Conflict is the bad guy.
dan friesen
I don't want to be a werewolf.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So Alex can't watch these people out there being tricked by Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's just, it hurts.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
It is very painful.
To watch people being conned, to watch people being manipulated, to watch people falling for the same tricks over and over and over again, and to hear people saying that sales taxes, value-added taxes, excise taxes to pay off money to banks we don't owe is conservative.
To watch somebody get up and say we need to pass the banker bailout in October of 2008 and now say they were against the bailout.
To say that Ron Paul's a kook and his supporters need to have the army sicced on him.
To hear them today, Glenn Beck, say that...
And again, I tuned in for five minutes.
I can't imagine what's going on on his show.
dan friesen
Crazy stuff.
alex jones
He said, I really worry for Barack Obama if he changes his communist ways.
I'm really worried that if he moves to the middle, That 9-11 truthers that he has in his White House, Secret Service better protect him because he basically says the 9-11 truthers are going to kill him.
That's like saying Marvin the Martian is going to land from Pluto and start eating children's brains.
It's just...
It's just total yellow journalism fraud.
dan friesen
I do agree with that on some level, and that is that Marvin the Martian is not from Pluto.
He's from Mars.
It's right in the name.
jordan holmes
It is so thoroughly in the name.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you can see in that clip there the way that Alex is playing this weird game of trying to have both sides.
There's 9-11 truthers in his administration, and then also 9-11 truthers as a whole.
And it's just an attack on Van Jones, quite frankly.
Glenn Beck was doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does feel like Alex is trying to go out of his way to take offense at this.
I guess?
Is he taking offense?
dan friesen
I think he is, and I think that part of it is he's super defensive.
He didn't get enough sleep.
jordan holmes
Definitely.
dan friesen
Should have taken a nap.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
And then also, I think you noticed a little something there of like, it hurts to see people getting conned over and over.
There's a little projection.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There is a little bit of...
Very clearly, like, I don't know if he means to, but he's talking about his own show when he's complaining about Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Yes, 100%.
dan friesen
And that's why he has to scream, like, I'm real!
He's fake!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You guys are both doing the same shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is always difficult to remember, you know, because you're so used to all the great punishments, but for these types, the greatest punishment of all is a mirror.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's tough to look in.
jordan holmes
It's tough to look into.
dan friesen
So, if you don't want to look into a mirror, you can look over to the side.
And you know what you see over there?
Savage.
Michael Savage.
You look over here, what do you see?
Rush Limbaugh.
jordan holmes
No, we're in a hole of mirrors!
dan friesen
So Alex likes those guys more than Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well that makes sense.
dan friesen
And at this point, he does not like those guys.
alex jones
I've had my problems with Rush Limbaugh.
dan friesen
Jealousy.
alex jones
Being a rhino.
And I've had my problems with Savage with talk of restricting free speech until his speech gets restricted.
But these guys are nothing compared to Glenn Beck.
I mean, Glenn Beck is consciously unoperative of the New World Order.
He revels in deception.
I mean, I listen to it, and it is levels of twisted deceit.
jordan holmes
I'm not moving.
unidentified
Nope.
alex jones
That are...
unidentified
It's just devilish.
alex jones
It's devilish.
dan friesen
Maybe he didn't fix that mic.
Or maybe his stomach's growling.
There's a lot of possibilities.
Yeah, that's strange.
jordan holmes
I genuinely kept sitting there thinking like, oh my god, I need to be more still just to like...
There's no way this is me.
There is no way this is me.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is more sound artifact from him.
But the more important point is, Glenn Beck is devilish.
Glenn Beck is demonic.
jordan holmes
Purposefully...
Why is this?
dan friesen
Because he's working with the New World Order in order to create a fake version of Alex in order to ruin Alex's life.
jordan holmes
He only listened to five minutes.
dan friesen
But he listens to five minutes three times a week.
He knows.
jordan holmes
That's almost somehow less qualifying for a good response.
dan friesen
This is an attack on Alex.
Glenn Beck's existence is an attack on Alex, you understand?
jordan holmes
I don't know, maybe.
dan friesen
And he's working directly with the globalists, and Alex knows that he knows this.
jordan holmes
That I definitely believe.
dan friesen
Why not?
I think Alex just needs to take a nap.
But I found this thought to be fairly interesting as well.
alex jones
He's the guy now leading the Tea Party movement out of anybody out there.
Not Sarah Palin, not Ron Paul, not anybody.
It's Glenn Beck.
And they're creating a cult of personality around him.
And he plays his role well.
He acts like a clown and a fool.
Calls himself a circus clown or a rodeo clown for the cover of Time Magazine and Newsweek.
Does the fake crying on camera.
Says it's all fake so that liberals hear that and don't become populist against the New World Order because they think Beck is behind it and they go running back into the arms of Obama.
He's meant to look so bad to the left that they go ahead and go along with Obama and his agenda because the alternative is Glenn Beck.
dan friesen
That's silly.
I don't know of anybody who's like, you know what, I don't like it, but I support Obama because the alternative is Glenn Beck.
That seems very weird.
jordan holmes
Of the binaries that I have ever been faced with, that one is as far away from possible as I can imagine.
dan friesen
But I do like the assessment.
That Glenn Beck makes himself look bad and stupid in order to drive people towards Obama.
jordan holmes
See, now that's projection.
dan friesen
I mean, everything is projection in that clip.
That was, like, he's describing Glenn Beck's show.
I'm like, that sounds like you, man.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
He's yelling.
He's a rodeo clown.
jordan holmes
He's just making all kinds of noise.
He's saying all kinds of weird things.
He's making sound bites that people like to remix into different things.
dan friesen
He calls himself the meme machine.
jordan holmes
Oh, this kind of, it's sensationalist bullshit is what it is, and I want it for it!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
This is very clearly, uh...
I don't know if it's intentional.
I really don't think it is cognizant.
Like, I don't think he realizes how much of a self-indictment this is.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's no way that he could seriously be like, hey, listen, this person does such a bad job being the thing that I say is good that it's making people want to go be friends with Obama without being like...
I am doing such a bad job that I am driving people to Obama.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You can't do that.
dan friesen
And that I do such a weird, bad thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm uniquely gifted at it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
By way of distraction tactics and performance and all this.
And Glenn Beck is not good at it.
So him doing it must be a conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Instead of just looking at, like, no, what you're doing is bad, you're just able to get away with it a lot better than someone who has a job.
Because they have a boss.
jordan holmes
Alright, let me pitch you this.
Here's what I see now.
This is what I'm seeing.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'm thinking more and more about Alex and how he came to be what he is, right?
So Alex evolved in a cave, right?
So he's got eyes.
But they don't actually see.
They're residual eyes.
They're vestigial.
So then, out of nowhere, what's this wake coming?
He can feel water.
There's a fish.
It's got googly eyes on it.
Put there.
It can actually see, but it's making fun of Alex for not being able to see.
This is what it must feel like to be Alex.
A sightless fish.
Being touched by a googly-eyed fish.
dan friesen
Struggling with your metaphor.
But yeah, sure.
I'll go with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's something along that.
You know what?
It got away from me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But I think there's something there.
dan friesen
I'm not sure about the introduction of the googly-eyed fish.
jordan holmes
The googly-eyed is where I got distracted.
dan friesen
Until you got there, I was with you that he is a sightless fish.
That part I'm fine with.
So we get off this topic of Glenn Beck and his devilishness.
Yeah.
Because we have to talk about how every single person...
Who's been elected into the European Parliament is...
Well, I'll let it out.
unidentified
Dracula?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
I wanted to open the phones up in the first hour.
We have a guest coming up in the next hour to talk about what's happening in England and in Europe as it's discovered that basically almost every new member of Parliament, their economists in the EU are open Marxist-Leninist, Stalinist, Maoist.
What's going on?
I mean, is this a communist invasion?
No.
The big banks always put communists in.
dan friesen
Yep.
So...
I don't know if he were pressed on it, much like he doesn't seem to have a real robust knowledge of what the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah is.
I don't know if he would know the difference between Marxist-Leninists and Maoists or Stalinists and Leninists.
I don't know if you'd know these different sort of schools of communism from each other.
jordan holmes
I think what I find fascinating is that he...
By knowing that they have different names suggests there is a difference between them.
dan friesen
Well, he's read them in, like, screeds written by Gary Allen and Phyllis Schlafly.
Right.
jordan holmes
They all have different names, which suggests they would need a reason to be differentiated from each other.
dan friesen
Well, it's just distraction.
It's trying to make you think that there's differences, but in reality, it's all one compound noun.
jordan holmes
Marxist, Leninist, Maoist, Stalinist.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I appreciate that the banks...
They fucking love those guys!
unidentified
Love them.
Love them.
dan friesen
So Alex has this guest on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's probably not a name that you'd recognize, but I would be interested if you did.
alex jones
Now, we are joined for the balance of the hour with the European Member of Parliament from Yorkshire and Humber for the United Kingdom Independence Party.
We are joined by Godfrey Bloom.
Godfrey Bloom, MEP.co.uk, to talk about a host of issues.
But I wanted to get him back on last week when I saw some press releases he was putting out about the type of people that are coming into the European Parliament now and the type of bureaucrats that are hiring are open Marxist-Leninists.
dan friesen
So Godfrey Bloom is the person who's making this shit claim.
jordan holmes
I do not know Godfrey Bloom.
dan friesen
And that's okay.
I mean, it's a name that doesn't ring out widely in the United States.
But I'm pretty sure that most of our UK listeners who aren't really young...
Probably rolled their eyes when they heard that name be announced.
He's a very well-known figure in UK politics and has been described as many as a, quote, national embarrassment.
In 2013...
Bloom gave a speech where he argued that the UK shouldn't be sending aid to, quote, Bongo Bongo Land, which is a traditional racist term used to describe countries in the developing world, usually in Africa.
This caused such an outroar and an embarrassment that Nigel Farage, in his capacity as the head of UKIP, had to plead with Bloom not to use that term again.
Nigel Farage was like, reel it in, buddy.
jordan holmes
You know, of all the...
No.
That's...
Fine.
Fine.
If we're...
But no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Despite Farage pleading with him to never use the term again...
He claims he's never apologized.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'll read to you here from a profile about him in the Telegraph.
Quote, I've never apologized, he blusters, with another thump of the table.
And I never will apologize.
What I did, and I was very careful, was to say that if I have caused genuine offense, I regret that.
It's a derogatory phrase, yes, but I meant it to be derogatory.
I didn't mean it to be racist.
The boss man said don't use it again, and I won't because I'm a disciplined individual and he's the boss.
jordan holmes
Boy, I wish I didn't understand those words perfectly.
dan friesen
So it's an interesting thing to hear Bloom describe himself as disciplined, because his track record would suggest the exact opposite.
In fact, if you look at his past pattern of actions, he seems like an unhinged, drunk bigot.
For instance, in 2008, Bloom was carried out of the European Parliament chambers after delivering a speech drunk.
jordan holmes
Oh boy, I mean, you're off to a bad start.
You're off to a bad start souring me on a guy.
dan friesen
Presumably he couldn't walk out under his own power.
jordan holmes
That's what I would like to hear.
dan friesen
Or he was being dragged out.
jordan holmes
One of the two.
Yeah, there's no other reason to be dragged out.
dan friesen
So this wasn't the only time he's been caught being drunk on the job.
And there was one famous instance where, in the middle of a debate, he drunkenly...
That's a good question!
Well, it wasn't relevant to the debate at hand.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, I think a lot of people could disagree with that.
And there's a lot to be said about the micro being applied to the macro.
dan friesen
So he doesn't seem to be all that disciplined.
And that's just in terms of substance abuse while at work.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
If you extend discipline to include things like not saying shit that's going to cause a huge controversy and make it so you lose all of your political capital and you can't get anything done, then Bloom is the least disciplined person around.
So just to be clear, Bloom ended up quitting his post in UKIP and exiting politics after he had his ability to engage in party business removed in 2013.
This happened after he gave a speech at UKIP's annual conference where he lambasted women in politics as being sluts who didn't clean behind their fridges enough.
jordan holmes
I'm so mad.
I hate these people so much because this is the guy you want.
This is you.
Don't you dare.
dan friesen
He's a little to them.
jordan holmes
No, this is you.
And this is the you that I would be like, well, listen, I'm going to hang out for a while.
I'm not going to be cool with any of this, but if we're at a bar, this is going to be a couple hours of entertainment for me.
dan friesen
There's a show happening here.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's an offensive-ass show.
jordan holmes
You're making the cool, fun piece of shit go away, and you're staying around.
dan friesen
I wouldn't retract that word, cool.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, I would very much want that.
No, no, no.
I want all of them gone.
Right, so here's the thing.
dan friesen
The dull, banal, malevolent people as opposed to the bombastic guy who's really clear about what he's about.
jordan holmes
Right, I think it's more like this, right?
When Nigel Farage is like, oh, don't use that term anymore, the bongo, whatever it is, right?
I say this.
Use the term all you want.
Get rid of all the racist fascists that are around you, and then we won't care so much about the words.
dan friesen
Yeah, the word itself is less important than the mentality that the word represents, and you're not rooting that out at all.
jordan holmes
You're not even coming close to rooting that out.
You're getting rid of the people who make it at least interesting.
dan friesen
Well, and make it visible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Make it overt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, he called women in politics sluts who didn't clean behind the fridge enough.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So after that big joke, Bloom was outside talking to journalists, and a question was asked about how in all of UKIP's campaign material there were no non-white people.
Bloom then accused the journalists of reverse racism and hit Channel 4 news reporter Michael Crick on the head with a rolled up leaflet.
This guy's a mess.
jordan holmes
That's just the way you do it, though.
dan friesen
So naturally, this got even more attention onto him, and the UKIP leadership was pretty unhappy about the whole thing, overshadowing their big event.
Instead of all their cool ideas, all the press was about this raging lunatic that they had as one of their MEPs.
So Bloom's whip was removed, and then he quit.
Fun fact, at this point in 2013, UKIP had one woman MEP.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
She quit the party and said that Farage, quote, does not like women.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit!
dan friesen
Yeah.
But this whole thing about calling women in politics sluts, this really wasn't a one-off situation.
Bloom had made a trend in his career of being super anti-women.
As far back as 2004, he was declaring publicly that, quote, no self-respecting small businessman with a brain in the right place would ever employ a lady of childbearing age.
In another 2004 speech, he said, quote, I want to deal with women's issues because I just don't think they clean behind the fridge enough.
Seems to be a focus.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He likes that one.
dan friesen
I'm here to represent Yorkshire women who always have dinner on the table when you get home.
I'm going to promote men's rights.
But his issues didn't stop there.
In 2010, he was possibly drunk on the parliament floor when he decided to yell at German MEP Martin Schultz.
He chose to yell, Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer.
unidentified
Which, understandably, no one enjoyed that.
People did not like that at all.
jordan holmes
I would have had a great day.
dan friesen
It didn't go over well.
jordan holmes
I believe it did not.
dan friesen
So Bloom refused to apologize, and he was temporarily ejected from the chamber.
jordan holmes
This is a person, he understands, he and I agree on the definition of an apology.
dan friesen
Well, maybe.
jordan holmes
In a sense, he does, because he's not going to just lie to you and say, I'm sorry for the sake of you going away.
He doesn't, he believes.
dan friesen
I think you're reading more into this.
I think he's a fucking stubborn piece of shit.
jordan holmes
I agree with that, too.
dan friesen
I think that's more where it comes from, and you're projecting your own thoughts.
jordan holmes
I'm just projecting that I want to go to a parliament and scream nonsense at people.
dan friesen
So this was the second time that he was kicked off the floor.
The first time was in 2009 for heckling.
And at that point, he was the first person ever to be expelled from the chamber in its 300-year history.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm saying!
dan friesen
He's setting records.
jordan holmes
What do you want from me?
dan friesen
So all in all, this is an angry bigot with a substance abuse problem, so it kind of makes him the European Alex.
Except he got into politics.
But after he was booted from politics, Bloom didn't take the opportunity to reflect on how he's a huge pile of shit.
Instead, he went on being an asshole to everyone around him.
For instance, in 2014, he was at a debate at Oxford and a student with a disability approached him.
Bloom decided that the right thing to say was, are you Richard III?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The student rightly took offense at this and called Bloom out.
Bloom would go on to tell Channel 4 that the student wasn't offended by it and they drank and laughed, quote, until one in the morning on the strength of it.
The student told Channel 4 a slightly different story, though they did have a drink together after the student was offended and, quote, we didn't bring it up again.
This dude sucks.
And in 2017, he called Goldman Sachs, quote, an international Jewish bank.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
So he has a little bit of that flavor in him, too.
jordan holmes
Well, what did you think wasn't, like, what's not in there?
dan friesen
He's got a lot of hits.
He's rangy.
jordan holmes
Listen, if you're looking at that, taking a taste of that stew, and you don't think the anti-Semitic gumbo is in there, you're out of your mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, that seasoning is there.
So yeah, that's the guy.
Real excited to have his thoughts about how there's Stalinist, Marxist, Maoists all being elected to the EU Parliament.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
But we're not going to hear that because it's a fucking boring interview.
jordan holmes
That's...
Unconscionable.
That is unconscionable.
dan friesen
Well, it's unbelievable that it's a boring interview, but I think that's because it's not an adversarial space.
This is a person who really is only interesting when there's hostility involved.
And for Alex, he's obsequious, and he's like, oh, this is a guy who's in the European Parliament who believes the same shit I do.
Oh, you're a hero.
So there's no reason for him to bring out the thing that makes him interesting, which is his lashing out at people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's why I didn't say...
Oh, that's unbelievable.
It's unconscionable because it's on purpose.
It's a purposeful act.
We were deprived of something great, which is Alex and this guy getting into a weird drunken argument about nonsense.
dan friesen
Right.
That would be much more interesting than the hour of nothing that happens here.
Oh, my God.
All these people are communists.
unidentified
Gross.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we get back to Glenn Beck.
Because that's what happens after the interview is done.
Alex gets back to Glenn Beck.
alex jones
Again, I know you as the audience know this, but we've got to get this message out to people.
I mean, really, we should write a news article.
Kurt Nemo, Paul Watson, Aaron Dykes, Steve Watson, somebody.
Or some other news website.
Somebody ought to really go through and compare Glenn Beck to Barack Obama.
And the only thing they really disagree on...
jordan holmes
Hair?
alex jones
Is global warming being man-made and government-run health care?
And Glenn Beck is 100% right on those issues, and it's great, and I would love...
Look, folks, I'm not attacking Glenn Beck because he's got a bigger radio show than mine and a big TV show, okay?
I'm not here trying to win a popularity contest.
I don't like to infight.
I don't like to sit here and call people out.
In the media and make a big spectacle and issue out of it.
That's all everybody else does.
Beck is so key to this, though, where he's been placed, the things he has done, his history, that it goes against my instincts.
I hate to have to go after Glenn Beck, but I know I must.
dan friesen
He must.
jordan holmes
He must.
dan friesen
Alex hates infighting so much.
jordan holmes
It is like...
I was the greatest gunfighter in the world.
And finally, I retired to my own little ranch, middle of nowhere.
Wife, kid, two dogs.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
American dream.
Somebody comes out of here, a fish with googly eyes, and now I gotta bring the gun back out.
unidentified
I might have brought that back too soon.
dan friesen
Right.
But the only thing is...
I like that sort of storyline as being what you're superimposing on this, but in that case, you were a highly competent gunslinger before you retired.
That implies that Alex was the best at calling people out, and he is not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's not the best at infighting, but he hates it, but he must.
He must do it.
jordan holmes
Imagine being kind of an alcoholic hobo gunslinger that kind of lucked his way into a sweet gig, and then the government cloned you.
To create a shittier version of you to take the same gig.
dan friesen
But what about the googly eyes?
jordan holmes
The googly eyes.
I've dropped that one for a second.
dan friesen
So I wanted to look up some of the things that Obama was into.
Maybe Glenn Beck also did not agree with.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
The TPP.
Trans-Pacific Partnership.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that one.
dan friesen
There's some gun control stuff that Obama was interested in.
jordan holmes
I heard of the gun control stuff.
dan friesen
Some gun reform.
Yeah.
I don't think they saw eye-to-eye on Iraq issues.
That war.
The debt ceiling crisis that came around.
But I guess that's in 2013.
So that's after this time in 2010.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Wall Street reform.
The Dodd-Frank.
I think they probably saw didn't see eye to eye on that.
jordan holmes
Oh man, that one went well.
dan friesen
Did Glenn Beck and Obama have similar education policies?
Because I bet they didn't.
I bet they probably didn't agree on that at all.
Oh, what about the Iran deal?
jordan holmes
That one was definitely an issue.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
I think they had entirely opposite ideas about policy.
jordan holmes
You would expect that to be.
dan friesen
But no, just those two.
Just those two.
Climate change.
unidentified
And what was the other one?
jordan holmes
What was the other one?
dan friesen
I don't even remember because it's not important.
jordan holmes
Oh, healthcare.
dan friesen
Healthcare, yeah, that's right.
jordan holmes
You know what's funny about that is that I actually think that if push came to shove, I think Obama and Glenn Beck would have a very similar view of healthcare.
dan friesen
Not on air.
jordan holmes
Not on air.
dan friesen
I don't agree on anything.
jordan holmes
No.
Especially not if it's useful for this conversation.
They could agree on everything and it wouldn't matter.
Alex would still say that they don't agree on it.
It's infuriating.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex hates watching Glenn Beck.
And I gotta say, listening to this, I can relate.
I can relate to that.
alex jones
There is something diabolical.
There is something just truly demonic about Glenn Beck.
And again, you can go pull the clips up.
Saying Ron Paul's a kook.
Saying we need to arrest 9-11 truthers.
Saying we're terrorists.
I heard him say it again today.
I never used to tune in.
I would see YouTube clips.
Now I'm forcing myself and it's like going into a porta potty and opening the lid and looking in.
I mean, I don't want to.
And I'm having to look at this and I'm just like, look at it.
It's so fake.
dan friesen
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way looking at Alex's show.
It's kind of like looking at a porta potty and being like, oh my god, it's all fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, very, very, very relatable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, although that kind of makes your job, your job is the guy who goes to the port-a-potty and opens up and looks in and then, like, unlike at a gas station where they, like, cleaned, you just check, still there.
Still bullshit.
dan friesen
I curate the things that are there to show you and give you a tour of the port-a-potty.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
It is strange to, like, on some level...
I'm listening to this episode, and Alex is describing my experience of listening to him, and that's weird.
It's not exact, but there's enough layers of it that it is a little surreal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it makes me want to strangle it.
If you're behind him and you're listening to him in this ghost scenario, it's like...
You are driving me personally insane now.
You've completely stepped into this world that I can't handle.
dan friesen
It goes to your simulation ideas.
So Beck, Glenn Beck, stealing everything from Alex.
alex jones
I heard him, before I turned him off, I couldn't listen, talk about the left-right paradigm.
This guy is taking everything I've pioneered, everything I say, everything I do, and is distorting it and twisting it with a wicked counterfeit.
I would love if he took ideas and systems that I pioneered on the radio and took it, if it was pure, and added his own information to it.
If he was a good guy.
jordan holmes
If he was a good guy.
alex jones
But it's horrible to know that he's taken all of my points and twisted it around and is conning everybody.
And I know they're listening right now.
And when Damon Vickers mentioned me on his show, Beck literally swole up and turned red.
I mean, Beck, look.
You're not going to be happy and satisfied with the $50 million you make every couple years if it sells out humanity.
It's going to come out you're a traitor just like Obama, just like Bush, just like everybody else.
But listen, here's the key.
They are scared to death of 9-11 truth.
They know that 9-11 truth is annihilating them right now because they can't stage terror attacks anymore because everybody's looking for it.
So the White House's number one enemy is 9-11 truth.
dan friesen
So what happened then?
If that's the case, then what happened?
Why did false flag attacks happen again?
Because according to Alex, they definitely did.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't believe that his position is there hasn't been a false flag attack since 9-11 Truth became hot.
Between 9-11 Truth becoming hot in 2010, no false flag attacks?
I don't believe he'd be able to say that based on his own coverage.
jordan holmes
I was just thinking of that, like how crazy that time period seems to be, because it seems so long to me that he's not immediately, like there's not another false flag in between.
dan friesen
There is.
jordan holmes
9-11 and that he's just rattling off, though.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
Yeah, but there are.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There are just things that he's probably forgotten happened.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he forgot he called a false flag.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Because it's almost a knee-jerk reaction at this point that it reduced to meaninglessness.
jordan holmes
No, it is.
But I am saying the idea of, like, oh, well, we're dealing with there's a false flag.
And it's the 9-11 one, and it's 2010.
Like, that's an unprecedented length of time in between false flags.
dan friesen
7-7-7.
The London attacks.
Alex thinks that's a false flag.
jordan holmes
Done and done.
dan friesen
They couldn't do that based on 9-11 truth if what he's saying is true.
His narratives don't hold together.
It's ridiculous.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
dan friesen
Yeah, nothing else to say about that.
His internal logic doesn't hold.
So anyway, the system.
jordan holmes
What about it?
dan friesen
The globalists.
The man.
They're so worried about Alex.
We already touched on this a little bit, but they had to create Glenn Beck.
alex jones
I mean, it's all completely transparent what Glenn Beck is doing.
dan friesen
I agree.
alex jones
And he is even more slimy than Bill O 'Reilly.
And I've just had it with him.
And so I woke up at 3.30 in the morning last night really thinking about how I want to try to be more focused myself and realize the responsibility I have.
I mean, if they've created Glenn Beck, who has literally tried to take on, he's like a wolf in Alex clothing, and he's destroying everything I'm doing, and they're monitoring everything we're doing.
And we've reached hundreds of millions of people with my films, hundreds of millions, free online.
We are shaking these people up, and of all the groups out there fighting the New World Order, we are the main global focal point worldwide, and we're small.
dan friesen
So now here's an interesting sort of construction of a thought.
You have, if they created him, I must be super important.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now I would say that they didn't create him in order to, create Glenn Beck in order to be a fake Alex Jones.
A wolf in Alex clothing.
jordan holmes
That would suggest you'd have to go back the other direction, too.
dan friesen
It would mean that Alex isn't really that important to the globalists.
And I think that's a threatening...
You must affirm the premise, the if statement, in order to get to the then statement, because that's what's really important for your ego.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the if statement is the far more important statement.
So the then statement has to be true.
dan friesen
No, no.
Otherwise.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
The then has to be true.
It's so important for the then to be true that the if must be true.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that means they created Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
It's obvious.
dan friesen
Which I would like to see Alex support.
I'd like to see some documentation of the creation of Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
I would like to know more about that.
How much of that is them astroturfing?
How much is that building?
Oh, sure.
Or how much is that physically constructing the man?
Is this a face-off scenario?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
If Alex wants to say that they created Glenn Beck in the sense that...
Yeah, he's gotten a lot of money from probably some dark sources.
jordan holmes
Sure, absolutely.
dan friesen
There is some of that influence in there, but that doesn't mean that they've whole cloth created him.
jordan holmes
No, but did they implant a computer chip in his neck that will explode?
Should he say the wrong things?
dan friesen
Did the Koch brothers come around and be like, you need to be a fake Alex Jones.
Here's some money.
jordan holmes
I want evidence of some real brainwashing.
I just want a little bit of real-ass brainwashing where you can look at it and they go, well, I'll be damned.
They totally brainwash that person to do the thing against that person's will.
I just want one of those.
dan friesen
Alex has 100.
Anyway, the system.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The man.
jordan holmes
What about it?
unidentified
The globalist.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They're giving you a choice.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
And I just thought about what big government does and how they always do the same thing.
This is a system of control.
This is a system run by psychopaths, and they want to do that here.
They give you false choices.
So they're giving you Glenn Beck or Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
You're giving me that!
alex jones
The left's going to support Obama because Beck's so bad, and the right's going to support Beck because Obama's so bad.
And it's elementary.
I mean, it's elementary.
dan friesen
So I guess that when you're above the left-right paradigm, this is the choice.
The false choice that people are being presented with.
Glenn Beck or Obama, because they both lead the same place.
I just, I think this is so dumb.
jordan holmes
Great.
Yeah.
Why did they give me that choice?
Why did they give me the choice between president and cuckoo guy on TV?
dan friesen
Well, because cuckoo guy on TV.
jordan holmes
Actually, you know what?
That was our presidential choice after Obama.
Yeah.
Never mind.
dan friesen
So cuckoo guy on TV is like the controlled opposition, as Alex would call him, Judas Goat type.
Sure.
unidentified
Who you take the energy and the appearance of sort of being anti-globalist and against the...
dan friesen
The man and stuff, but it actually just feeds right back into the same.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I don't think that Glenn Beck is getting people to support Obama, but I guess it would be that he leads you to vote for someone like, I don't know, Ted Cruz?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, think about it this way, right?
dan friesen
He gets you to vote for the Republican equivalent of Obama that retains the system as it exists.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, Trump got us all to Biden.
Right?
Trump is actually the cuckoo TV guy that's there to push us all towards Obama, man.
dan friesen
That's what's going on.
What you gotta do is you gotta get above the left-right paradigm paradigm.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You gotta double jump it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
You're only at the sixth dimension.
I've gone through Pennsylvania.
dan friesen
Alex is looking at the wrong level of the Matryoshka doll.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Which I've noticed you've been saying a lot lately.
jordan holmes
We said it three times last night.
dan friesen
I know, and I think you have...
unidentified
That's too many.
dan friesen
I've said it three times.
jordan holmes
I said it three times in one show.
dan friesen
And on another episode.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
I think you recently learned that word.
jordan holmes
I did not recently learn the word.
dan friesen
We've recorded 800 episodes and we've called it a Russian nesting doll.
jordan holmes
I don't know why I just said it!
dan friesen
Because you just have a word of day calendar.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, I do not have a word of day calendar.
unidentified
Yeah, you do.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
I'm certain.
jordan holmes
I don't have a calendar!
dan friesen
Okay.
So anyway, Alex has tried to play nice with Glenn Beck.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
He's tried his best.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think...
That this leads to a section of the show where he's talking to Glenn Beck through his show.
jordan holmes
Directly speaking to Glenn Beck the way a sane person would do.
dan friesen
Very sane person.
jordan holmes
Very sane.
dan friesen
It's a little upsetting.
alex jones
I mean, it's a lie, folks.
They're coming after 9-11 Truth because they're mad.
They're mad that we exposed their favorite toy of blowing stuff up to scare you into submitting to them.
And he wants to re-invoke 9-12.
The day after.
Your anger.
He wants to re-invoke that lie.
It is demonic.
He is conjuring this.
dan friesen
Real quick, I want to say that Alex does have a good criticism of Glenn Beck there with the 9-12 thing.
Because he's like, oh yeah, you're trying to bring people to that unity and whatever.
Do you remember we were trying to be bloodthirsty for war?
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
That's a fair criticism that Alex has.
jordan holmes
It's a fair criticism.
dan friesen
You've got to give it up to you when he has something.
jordan holmes
It is what it is.
alex jones
It is.
He is a little devil, man.
That guy is absolute Benedict Arnold, and I am forced to declare war on Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Forced?
alex jones
I have tried to, you know, get messages to him, videos I've done.
I've said, stop it, Beck.
I want to believe you're a good guy.
Please don't be a traitor.
Please don't betray humanity.
And that's when I'm not watching him.
See, I don't watch him.
dan friesen
I've tried to get messages through to him through videos that I've done.
I try to...
I mean, it is just the opposite side of the TV talking back to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it...
It is a little bit even more surreal, though, whenever it's like a smaller TV is talking back to a big TV that's not talking back to it, but I'm watching both of them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
That's very strange.
dan friesen
I want to clarify one thing, because I have used the second person when I've talked about Alex.
I've been like, you prick, or like, you know, I have used you.
Sure.
But that is a rhetorical device I'm using.
I'm not actually thinking that Alex, I'm talking to him.
I want to differentiate that from what Alex is doing.
Alex legitimately thinks he's getting messages to Glenn Beck through his show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, when I say you prick to Alex, I am speaking to the performance.
It is the audience who is hearing me speak to the, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a play.
It's a mumbery.
dan friesen
But not with Alex.
jordan holmes
Not with Alex.
alex jones
A lot of people will listen today.
A lot won't.
But down the road, just like every other issue, I'm right.
I don't have to look in a crystal ball.
I know who you are.
From a distance, I've been monitoring and watching and trying to figure out what you're doing since I first heard you on the radio 10 years ago in Austin, or 9 years ago.
I've been watching you.
And I heard what you were 9 years ago.
It was all entertainment.
And I thought, boy, this guy's a great radio host.
This guy does a great War of the Worlds reenactment.
This guy's a little hokey.
You know, a little...
A little tinkerbellish.
jordan holmes
Don't hold back.
alex jones
A little prissy, but I guess that's the crowd you run with.
I mean, that's what runs America, is a bunch of little prissy chicken necks.
But, I mean, I didn't like you as a man.
I don't think you're a man's man or anything.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I kind of got an icky feeling, but I admire your skill as the little thespian you are, prancing around on the stage like you like to do.
jordan holmes
Alex, focus.
alex jones
He doesn't even want to do radio and TV.
He loves to go into the theater and, you know, do all of this.
And that's fine.
I mean, who you are is who you are.
But listen, we're not going to let you destroy the Republic.
We're not going to let you, like Benedict Arnold, lead us down a rat hole.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is trying to imply that Glenn Beck is gay.
unidentified
Yeah, I think we're taking a very short hop there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now, I had a realization recently that I've never had before.
jordan holmes
What was that?
dan friesen
When he's talking about chicken neck people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he's talking literally.
And the reason that I think that is because he talks about how his neck is thick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has a freakishly large neck.
jordan holmes
Do you mean he's just literally describing the difference between him Large-necked people and us, small-necked people.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
As though we're a different species of humans.
dan friesen
Yes, it is a morphological thing.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's not a metaphor.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I've always thought of the chicken neck kind of thing as being like, eh, it's metaphorical.
unidentified
I think he's talking about people who have weak necks.
dan friesen
Smaller necks than him.
jordan holmes
The homo chicken neck B-less genus.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
I sincerely do think that Alex has a neck-based...
Uh, masculinity index.
jordan holmes
That, okay, so then we look at that little evolution chart.
unidentified
Joe Rogan!
jordan holmes
Joe Rogan!
Big neck!
That's true.
unidentified
Whoa!
jordan holmes
The evolution of necks is truly the evolution of man, as we've seen.
dan friesen
I do think that there's something to this, though.
I realized, like, within the last week, that when he's talking about chicken necks, maybe it's not.
Maybe it's not.
Maybe it's literal.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think that's a good point in that there is a lot more of the literal in this kind of thing than we are.
We live a lot in metaphorical speech.
We're people who like to do that.
dan friesen
And it's often very easy to give the benefit of metaphor to people.
jordan holmes
Very easy.
dan friesen
And it often seems like when you're talking about somebody like Alex, if you take him literally, It paints a damning picture.
jordan holmes
You can't possibly be meant to be taken literally.
dan friesen
And so you want to exhaust the possibilities of things being metaphor before you take him literally.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so that's why it never really entered into my mind that this could be something that is about the size of a neck.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, to reorient Alex's...
Like, to reorient yourself into a place where Alex means literally what he says is to fundamentally come up against a world that you did not believe was real.
Right?
And have to expand your concept of this world to include that one.
And fuck if that's not hard to do, because that shit shouldn't be here.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he's very sane, and you're insane.
jordan holmes
I'm insane, and he is sane.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex continues talking to Glenn Beck, and he tells him what he needs to remember in the future.
jordan holmes
Also, I can't imagine...
How annoyed must you be as a TV to want to look down at the other TV and be like, listen, I don't care what you have to say, but just focus and say one thing!
Stay on topic, man!
dan friesen
And also, I'm going to spend my entire show whining about you.
So anyway, this is where he concludes his thoughts directly to Glenn Beck.
unidentified
Gotcha.
alex jones
And you better hope, like Benedict Arnold, you get to run to Europe or England.
Buddy.
unidentified
Because...
alex jones
I may die tomorrow or get set up tomorrow or get sent to prison tomorrow by one of your goons.
You know, as you put out the word that we want to kill the president.
dan friesen
Glenn Beck's goons?
alex jones
Glenn Beck has goons.
But in the end, you're going to fall.
And when you're old and you're dying of cancer or whatever it is, I want you to remember that I told you that in the public court of opinion that we exposed you and I put a buoy on your butt.
You know what a buoy is?
They mark rocks.
They mark danger.
They mark treachery with a buoy.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
alex jones
And I, henceforth, put a buoy on you, a marker.
Wait, what?
As a traitor, as King, I'll mark you as a slimeball who I look in his eyes.
The sick thing is you're enjoying lying to people.
You enjoy like a snake all day talking about how you have trust with your audience.
You're like Grimer Wormwood from Lord of the Rings or something behind the king's throne.
jordan holmes
I don't know how I'm so mad at all of that.
alex jones
Death into our bones.
Again, you are not a general.
You are not a patriot.
You are somebody who's there to get our confidence to sell us out, but you can't let your contempt and your hatred for patriots stay under bridle.
You reveal yourself.
It's like Sean Hannity saying, arrest all members of the militia.
He just said, arrest anyone in the militia.
Arrest them.
dan friesen
See, this isn't how things end up going.
I think Glenn Beck has been able to get rid of that buoy on his butt.
Because Alex and him are pretty much fine now, and they're compatriots, at least in the Trump extremism sector.
They certainly have a heavy overlap in terms of people they associate with, Stephen Crowder being chief among them.
Sure.
jordan holmes
That was a barrage.
dan friesen
But it all was very projection-y, too.
Oh, yeah.
You imagine Alex saying those things to himself, and they make a lot of sense.
If you imagine him sitting at four in the morning, alone in his living room, staring at the wall, in his spiral of negative self-talk, these are the sorts of things that might come up.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Every time Alex starts insulting things, I imagine him in front of a mirror, and finally everything makes sense.
But that...
I put a buoy on you in such a...
It was spoken in almost a magical way.
I put a buoy on you!
It has a generational curse aspect of it, which I appreciate greatly.
dan friesen
I have branded you and your children as traitors.
So yeah, Alex says something in this next clip that sounds extreme, but is actually true.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Back live worldwide, ladies and gentlemen, the people are waking up across the planet.
They will wake up to the fraud that is Glenn Beck.
Remember a few years ago, Michael Reagan, the adopted son of Ronald Reagan, said, I will give you the bullets.
I will give you the hand grenades.
Murder, Mark Dice, murder 9-11 truthers.
He said, I'm serious.
Call me.
I want them murdered.
He said that on 300 radio stations.
That's okay.
See, they can call for killing us.
But then we say, we question 9-11, and Glenn Beck says we want to kill Obama.
I mean, just totally insane.
dan friesen
So I don't know if it was on 300 stations, but Michael Reagan did legit call for the assassination of Mark Dice.
jordan holmes
Ronald Reagan's adopted kid?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Called for the assassination of Mark Dice.
dan friesen
The reason for this is because he lumped him in with a group of people who were sending 9-11 conspiracy material to troops that were serving in Iraq.
It wasn't so much that they had 9-11 conspiracy beliefs, it appears, as much as it was about promoting dissent among enlisted persons.
I absolutely do not support Reagan's actions, and I think he probably should have at least been fired for that kind of talk.
I don't know if it borders into what is not free speech.
I think it probably isn't, but I'm not sure where the line is, because it's apparently a lot further than you think.
But from a 30,000 foot view, you could make the argument that at this point, I wouldn't make that argument, but I could see how someone like Michael Reagan might.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It is different than just having 9-11 conspiracy beliefs.
What he was responding to was sending things to the troops that would make them not want to fight the war that they were enlisted to fight in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's fairly simple, like, propaganda.
People have dropped pamphlets on the streets of Paris.
dan friesen
You could make the argument that that is a similar act.
Again, I wouldn't make that argument.
jordan holmes
I get what you're saying.
dan friesen
So this happened on June 10, 2008, and on June 16, 2008, Reagan had Mark Dice on his show and apologized, explaining that, quote, sometimes radio hosts, we get fired up and angry and say things that are actually stupid, and we make mistakes.
So, I mean, Alex doesn't bring up that part of it.
You know, it's kind of big of him on some level to apologize.
jordan holmes
I think he means it.
dan friesen
Probably.
Or there was a covering his ass thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, because there was a big uproar about this, and people were like, is this the station's policy to allow assassination threats?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one is a little bit difficult.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That one is a little bit difficult.
dan friesen
I know you're Reagan's adopted son, and that's great for you and all, but I don't know if that gives you carte blanche to call for assassination.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of where I would, like, diagnose a problem here, and it starts way before we get to Reagan's adopted son is on the air.
dan friesen
Yeah, it starts with, there's a guy named Mark Dice.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That's a problem.
jordan holmes
We gotta go back.
We gotta go back to the island.
This is too further on, yeah.
dan friesen
So this confused me a little bit.
This is a pretty confusing clip.
alex jones
We walk down the street and people come out of dark alleyways with girls in wheelchairs ramming them into us, going, he attacked me, he attacked me.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what?
alex jones
They're trying to set us up.
We're in danger.
We need your prayers.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what?
alex jones
And Michael Savage says that Obama will stage terror attacks.
I mean, does he deserve to go to prison, according to Cass Sunstein, at the White House?
I mean, come on, folks.
Common sense.
They've declassified.
They stage a lot of these terror attacks.
If they admit they've done it before and they stand to get power out of it and they're using the entire 9-11 attack for Homeland Security to set up against gun owners, conservatives, libertarians, and veterans.
Remember Glenn Beck when he did a show on MIAC and the Homeland Security Report?
dan friesen
So I have no idea what Alex is talking about with girls in wheelchairs coming out of alleys.
I guess that's a fun example of a possible false flag.
Someone could run against him as an attack or something.
like pretend that he attacked the person in the wheelchair and then set him up that way or something.
I think that's what he's getting at.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
So the idea is somebody would run at Alex with a person in a wheelchair.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Then like throw them at Alex.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
unidentified
And then when they got into a tussle, Alex would then be blamed for attacking a...
dan friesen
I assume that that's the general line.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Something along those lines.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
That sounds right.
dan friesen
So more importantly, I want you to make note of the way that Alex uses language.
I think that's what he's getting at.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
He knows that he's making a point that he absolutely can't defend concretely, namely that the U.S. government did 9-11.
Because he can't make that point, he's required to jump from one piece of suspicious information to another without ever really finishing his sentence.
It's helpful to track the argument as it's being made, so I've done that here.
Here's the basic setup of his argument.
alex jones
They've declassified they stage a lot of these terror attacks.
dan friesen
So Alex is asserting the conclusion is implied.
We know what the conclusion is, and that's the government staged the 9-11 attack.
And so there, he's listing off premises that are meant to lead to that conclusion.
The first is that they've declassified that they've staged a bunch of these attacks in the past.
This is arguable, based on what your definition of a bunch is, or whether or not you think past examples of false flags are comparable to 9-11.
What Alex is actually referring to is Operation Northwoods, which is not proof that the government has staged a bunch of these attacks in the past.
The premise does not build towards the conclusion, but it appears to.
There's the optics there.
The second premise is that they stand to gain power out of staging this attack.
That is abstractly true, but it doesn't prove that the attack was staged.
At best, what this premise does is flesh out some of the questions about motive that Alex's narrative requires.
But then, as the second premise is being stated, Alex veers off into talking about the Patriot Act, which is actually just an example of what he meant by the second premise.
This is the way that the globalists are going to enact gaining power that they were looking for when he fleshed out that motive.
Then he jumps off into yelling about Glenn Beck and the MIAC report without ever finishing his thought.
This is a manipulative strategy you can use to make it appear that you've made an argument when you really haven't.
Alex's argument boils down to a bit of an if-then statement where it's like, if someone admits they've done something before and they would stand again from doing it again, then it's common sense to assume that they have done it.
This is a flawed construction, and the premises don't support the conclusion at all.
But if you're just listening to Alex, the way he moves so quickly from this one thing to another, it feels like what he's saying made a lot more sense, and there was a solid argument there.
When you listen to someone like Alex, it's wise to pay attention to this kind of behavior.
When someone's laying out an argument that seems thin, and they conveniently get distracted yelling about anything other than the point, it's often because they're trying to distract from how thin their point actually is.
Which is just what's going on here.
unidentified
But it's really clear.
dan friesen
It's transparent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, there's doing it this way, or there's making a bad argument and then being like, before you continue and ask me questions, how about you watch me do some close-up magic?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then perhaps you will forget about your questions at the end.
dan friesen
Yeah, if this wasn't moving so fast and with so much...
Sleight of hand, quite frankly.
You would recognize, like, this doesn't make sense.
That doesn't justify the argument that you're making.
jordan holmes
God, dude, the coin, you just have the coin in the bottom two fingers.
Like, you just got really good with your fingers, so you can hide the coin in the...
That's bullshit, man!
dan friesen
This is wildly circumstantial at best, and it's just a thin broth.
So Alex gets back to his feelings about needing to go after Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because, you know, he talked about the MIAC report.
We leave Beck.
jordan holmes
Very focused.
dan friesen
And it turns out that this is actually a very important thing for him to do.
alex jones
Last night I woke up really not even upset.
It was more than that.
Just like, man, this is real.
And I was like, God, what is it I'm supposed to do?
And it was like, go after Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Make a sandwich.
alex jones
Because I hate talking about people.
I don't like it.
I mean, I don't even like making Obama the enemy or Bush the enemy.
They're puppets.
I don't like the personality issues because that almost feeds into it.
And I'm like, I don't want to talk about him.
My way of really disliking him is to not talk about it and try to ignore it and like, no, don't show me that.
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretending something doesn't exist, you must really hate us.
That's what I would say.
Also, you don't like talking about people.
You don't want to talk about Obama.
You made the Obama deception a week into his presidency.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You love talking about people, you dick.
jordan holmes
Don't do that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Don't do that.
dan friesen
I do like, though, the...
I asked God what to do, and he said, go after Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Go after Glenn Beck.
dan friesen
Just solid.
jordan holmes
Gotta do it.
God, what do I do?
Gotta go after Glenn Beck.
dan friesen
It's a strange mission, but...
jordan holmes
It's a strange God.
I think of all the things that I have learned from Alex is that...
God is a weird dude.
He's a weird dude with a lot of weird ideas.
dan friesen
Here's what God seems to be telling Alex to do.
The thing that Alex wants to do, but he knows that it's bad for him to want to do it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It would look bad if he was like, I really want to attack Glenn Beck.
I really want to scream about him and really go after him.
Because he's occupying a space in the media that I could profit off of, and that is really bothersome.
jordan holmes
I'm going to throw this out at you.
Okay, so if the main function of your God...
Is to, whenever you run up against a thing that you don't want to do, for that person to give you permission to do a thing that you are not supposed to do, then are you not really worshipping God so much as you are the devil?
dan friesen
Or is God, in your conception, really just kind of an emotional crutch that you use in order to justify Doing things that you know you shouldn't do but you want to do anyway?
jordan holmes
It's almost like the devil is created as such.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this next clip is highly projecting E. Oh yeah?
alex jones
I mean I'll see articles we post sometimes because I don't control my writers.
I know they've got good brains and they basically do most of the posting and ideas themselves.
But I will see some new horrible thing he did and I'll...
I'll not want to look at it.
See, that's the problem, folks.
I've got all this stuff I read.
I'm angry about each article.
And I genuinely, once a month or so, I'll be driving down the road and I'll think about the country and the innocence and how the CPS is taking these kids and raping them.
And I'll start crying, and not a sobbing cry.
I can't even control it.
Just tears start running out.
And then I see Beck.
On his TV set, he even shows people this so they'll know he's fake.
And on putting stuff in his eyes that makes him cry and getting into the fakeness of what we really should be crying for this country.
He is a counterfeit, folks.
He makes me sick.
And I just asked God, I said, how do I keep him from taking my work and turning it into something evil?
I mean, I feel dirty because I haven't been sophisticated enough to see this coming beforehand.
I'm going to do the best I can and let God take over from there.
dan friesen
God, how do I defend my space in the market against this person who clearly has access to greater media attention than me, who has a TV show, is clearly willing to do some things that I'm not, like have a boss.
I'm mad at him for fake crying, although I fake cry all the time.
jordan holmes
In this clip.
dan friesen
He got a little emotional.
jordan holmes
He was trying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is even worse.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He couldn't successfully fake cry.
dan friesen
It's so self-condemning.
It's just that all you can come back to is like such a pointing a finger at yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like seemingly obliviously.
jordan holmes
No, it is like a classic like 1970s diva at the opera story of like the The diva who is obsessed with this younger person, but the younger person is obsessed with the younger person.
Everybody is always doing the exact same thing, blaming the other person for being the most version of the thing that they hate about themselves, all in service of keeping a gig.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Very interesting.
Layers.
So Alex rambles in this next clip about how good a person he is, more or less.
alex jones
I want to see honorableness and wholesomeness upheld.
And then I think about the position I'm in, the responsibility I've got, and all the bad things I do when I'm trying to be good, when I'm trying to be accurate.
And then I just think about how I have a conscience and I'm trying to be as accurate and as good as I can be.
And I can't imagine someone who is just as smart as I am or smarter who chooses to join with evil and chooses to serve it and enjoys deception and enjoys...
I, I, I...
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
I mean, all I've got is being real.
jordan holmes
So close.
alex jones
And that's not like, oh, I'm real.
I'm holier than thou.
I'm good.
Look how good I am.
No, I'm bad.
But the point is, I am real.
And it's who I am.
I'm not making myself that way.
It's who I am.
And that's all I've got.
That's what I value.
And then I realize, even if I try the straight and narrow, even if I focus, even if I'm...
Watchful, even if I'm as wise as a serpent and harmful as a dove or whatever the saying is.
dan friesen
Fucking harmful, dove.
alex jones
I'm still going to let people down, folks.
They're feverishly combing through anything and everything I ever did, making stuff up, lies you can't imagine.
And so that's why it is about you being individuals.
You know you're good.
You know you love freedom.
You're not perfect, but your heart is right.
Your heart is right.
You want to be a good person.
You want to be loving.
You want to be honorable.
And you know you're good.
And I know I'm good.
I know I'm for real.
And so all we can do is do our best and then give it to God.
Because it's the burden.
It's the burden.
It's such a burden.
I'm the main guy.
The main real thing.
dan friesen
I would say that Glenn Beck probably thinks that he's good, and he's real.
jordan holmes
I think Alex has actually stumbled upon a very, very interesting...
dan friesen
I'd also like to take back what I just said.
Glenn Beck probably knows that he's putting on an act in the same way that Alex knows he's putting on an act.
jordan holmes
Well, but that's the interesting question I have.
I think, I mean, I'm not talking about knowledge now.
I think what I find interesting is that I know Glenn...
Could do a different act, if that makes sense.
dan friesen
Because he has.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He cannot do that.
Alex cannot not do what Alex does.
dan friesen
Yes, there's a compulsion element.
jordan holmes
Does Alex have something of a point in that it is more pure simply because the performer making this thing could not, under any circumstances...
Make anything else.
dan friesen
No, because I think that that's a generous interpretation of Alex's compulsion.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, he couldn't do anything other than the thing that he's doing, but he could also do something slightly different in the same way.
Like, he could have chosen to not support Trump.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And, you know, that would have been an option he could have taken, and his show would still be him doing the compulsive shit that he does.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It just would have been...
You know what?
That world is such a fascinating possible reality.
Alex not supporting Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he would have retained such an iconoclastic stance and he would have, I guess, been pulling for Rand Paul the whole time or something.
jordan holmes
Lord knows.
dan friesen
But he would have still done the same show that he does.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There would have been certain other focuses that he took.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
COVID would have gone a lot smoother for him.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
I don't even want to imagine that.
I don't want to imagine a world where that makes sense.
dan friesen
Because then he wouldn't have had to have the whole, like, Trump is great except for that he made the vaccine.
He could have just had the whole thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, um...
jordan holmes
No, I mean, I...
What would I...
Like...
It does...
It does...
It's not the same.
But it's got the front man...
You know, like, there's the front man who could...
There's joint division and there's new order.
Do you know what I mean?
There's a difference.
dan friesen
What you're saying, to boil it down to stand-up, there are people who are naturally charismatic on stage and they can't not be.
And then there's some people who, when they're doing their act, can come off quite well and they have a performance.
Glenn Beck is that person who doesn't have the natural charisma.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And when you have that natural charisma, maybe you can look down on people who have to sort of fake it and put on that act.
And maybe there is something to that, but maybe there's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's definitely true, too.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I guess.
You know, when people ask, does Alex really believe the things that he says and stuff?
My position is generally, it doesn't matter.
The consequence and the reality is the same as it is.
Is Alex real?
Does it matter that he's real compared to Glenn Beck being fake?
I don't know.
I don't think it does.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's funny to watch him spiral like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At God's behest, apparently.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it doesn't matter in the real world.
I think it's more interesting to try and figure out what it is that Alex believes he's wrestling with.
dan friesen
Oh, I'll tell you.
Demons.
Here, listen to this.
alex jones
But I see it all.
I see the whole enemy and all of their nightmarish corruption and wickedness and their sins and who they are, and I see all the demons, folks.
They're all around me, and I'm like, my God, I wish people could see what I see.
I wish they knew the way I can read people now, the way I understand things.
It's almost like torture.
The level of discernment I just continue to get, and then I'm in this weak body.
I'm this weak, sinful person, and I'm like, what have you done to me, God?
And God says, oh, it's going to get a lot worse, buddy.
And now I can't change who I am.
I can't join with the evil.
I wouldn't.
But it's just, if people knew what was really going on, if they could only understand, if they could only really have discernment, and I know a lot of you do, and that's why you're active in warning people.
I'm really ranting today.
jordan holmes
Oh?
alex jones
I woke up at 3.35 in the morning, in the cold, dark, still of the night, went in the living room, and I just sat there for hours and hours, and I just...
And you know those thoughts you're having and that still time, the understanding, it was so much more, so much information.
It was like downloading information.
It was just like, at a certain level, it's good to have the information and you want more of it.
And it's so incredible, but then you want to warn people.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's...
He's struggling with demons all around him.
He can discern.
He can read people really well because of these downloads that he gets when he sits alone in his living room in the middle of the night having weird feelings.
So that's what's going on.
He's very sane.
jordan holmes
Sometimes whenever you're struggling with information that other people can't believe because it sounds...
dan friesen
Right, like there's demons running around all over the place that no one else can see?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you might think to yourself, oh, this is a personal struggle for me because I am trying to share a truth with the rest of the world that would allow them to interact better with it.
Right.
But sometimes, when you feel that way, you're actually out of your mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, everyone else is crazy.
And also, I mean, quite frankly, it's the affluence that insulates him from...
Having to deal with the fact that he's seeing a reality that no one else sees.
And unfortunately he's convinced a whole lot of people that he's speaking in metaphors.
jordan holmes
And he's created a capitalistic enterprise dedicated solely to making sure he doesn't have to feel...
dan friesen
Dedicated to enabling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Which is like...
Of all the things that you can do, that is one of the weirder...
dan friesen
Well, I mean, think about how that is the ultimate business expression of a narcissist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
What do you do but create a lucrative business, scamming people into sending money constantly in order to defend my ego from the reality that I'm a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is Shakespearean.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, also Shakespearean is Alex's thoughts about death.
He's very stoic.
He's very stoic about death.
alex jones
Interesting.
I mean, I'm 36 years old next month, and I already feel really old.
I've gone past being afraid of death, to not being afraid of death, to not wanting to die, but not even concerned about it anymore.
And I know that I've got this far in life, and it seems like five minutes has passed, and in five minutes I'm going to be 85 years old, having a stroke, dying.
Of course all you've got in this world is being good and being honorable and loving your little species, sweet little humans.
I'm sorry, what?
And we let scum and degenerate, murderous, lying filth run our lives.
And just rise up and beat them, folks.
Get your guts warmed up.
Get your soul on fire.
Get some strength.
I mean, folks, a lot of you Christians claim you're close to God.
There's no way you are in tune with God, because if you were in tune with God, you would feel the unlimitless love and passion and creativity and honor and everything that is good and everything that is wholesome, and you would feel ashamed of yourself, even if you were somebody trying to be good.
dan friesen
Oh, you sweet little humans.
jordan holmes
I just care so much about the humans.
dan friesen
The sweet little humans.
jordan holmes
Oh, the humans.
What a great way of describing your love for your fellow man.
Think about the humans!
dan friesen
Sweet little humans.
jordan holmes
Definitely doesn't make me sound like a separate alien lunatic.
dan friesen
Yeah, and everything is so important about Christianity and his connection to God, and of course, why not...
Send in a little bit of none of the rest of you are Christians because you don't act like me.
jordan holmes
Only all of you knew and felt and acted and behaved exactly the way I do.
dan friesen
The only true Christians are the people who act like me.
jordan holmes
That does seem to be a popular sentiment.
dan friesen
And it's sane.
It's very sane.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So Alex gets off this subject because he watches a...
Short film about North Korea and people who are essentially kept as a slave, the right term?
I guess, yeah.
People who are abused under the government and such.
And so he comes back, and he's got a bit more fear in him.
And he ends up just talking about immigrants pretty much the whole time.
alex jones
Well, that's what the Republican leader of the Senate, I was like five years ago interviewing him, I forget his name, in Colorado.
He went out one day and in two hours got four different consulate matriculars for $100 and was able to then go get on welfare.
He did it as a stunt.
It was in the Denver Post.
And, I mean, it's just unlimited.
I mean, no wonder the illegals are driving around in luxury vehicles and citizens that play by the rules are going bankrupt.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
You got one set of rules for a citizen, another set of rules for somebody that doesn't have any business being here in the first place.
dan friesen
Oh man, that's wild.
And totally not true.
Colorado banned the acceptance of the use of consular ID cards for government purposes in 2003, and only reversed that ban in 2020.
Also, this GOP leader that Alex Totally interviewed, who's unnamed, probably couldn't get a consular ID, since they're only given to Mexican citizens.
You need to present a Mexican birth certificate and an official Mexican ID in order to get one.
You also can't get on welfare with a consular ID, since they're specifically for non-US citizens.
These are IDs that are given out at various countries' consulates, and they're not just randomly dispensed.
They have guidelines and databases of people who have them, and the way Alex is presenting this, it's just playing on the audience's inherent racism in order to trigger their white victimhood fears and feelings.
This is a wild level of, look at them, they get away with everything.
Not like us, whites who play by the rules.
That's the long and short of what he's trying to get people to feel.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, you start digging into IDs and you start seeing that they exist mainly because of finding ways to exclude people that you don't want to have them.
As opposed to being like a...
That is like, you know, that kind of thing.
We should just get rid of them.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I need to think about it a little more than to sign off on.
jordan holmes
All of them.
All of the IDs.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All shoes.
dan friesen
All shoes?
jordan holmes
All shoes are next.
You've missed the part where the shoes are in on the scam.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was about to tell you.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex just whines a bit here more about immigrants being above the law.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
alex jones
Lisa in New York.
Thanks for holding her on the air.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
I was just wondering, is this how the meticulous consular, I live in New York, is this how they get illegal aliens to just drive around?
I've always wondered about that.
alex jones
No, no, no.
Ma 'am, ma 'am, ma 'am, it's the biggest issue and Republicans never talk about it because it's all staged.
They want amnesty too.
They are all above the law.
What?
The Patriot Act doesn't apply to them.
Nothing applies to them.
They get taxi licenses, everything, with nothing.
Ma 'am, they're allowed to drunk drive where I live.
Sheriffs all the time arrest carloads of illegals, and the feds actually hire them on the spot and go give them government jobs.
That's Wall Street Journal.
dan friesen
That's Wall Street Journal, man.
jordan holmes
Wall Street Journal.
dan friesen
Yep.
They pull over a carload of drunk, driving, undocumented immigrants.
They're like, hey, we gotta give you a job.
Gotta hire you for the government position.
jordan holmes
I don't understand how you can be mad in a political way about this at all.
Like, my first instinct to be mad in this, if what is being said is true.
dan friesen
Which I'll tell you it's not.
jordan holmes
No, obviously.
But here's what makes me mad.
This is a poorly run system.
dan friesen
Quite.
jordan holmes
Even if it's for your benefit, to my detriment, you're doing a bad job of it.
So you need to deal with that.
Whoever's running your case could be oppressing me a lot better right now.
It makes me so mad how stupid this all is.
dan friesen
Sure.
And I think that when you get down to it about the Patriot Act not applying to undocumented immigrants, it might be less that they're exempt from it and that The concerns that Alex has about his rights being infringed, those rights maybe aren't enforceable for undocumented immigrants.
Do they have Fourth Amendment protections?
jordan holmes
I guarantee you, you could quarter a soldier in their house right now.
Nobody would stop you.
dan friesen
I think it might be possible to do that more easily with undocumented populations.
jordan holmes
You could just say that it's the soldier's house.
They've got documents.
dan friesen
It's not complicated.
Yeah, so maybe they're in a more difficult position to begin with.
unidentified
Could be.
dan friesen
And your concerns don't apply.
But anyway...
jordan holmes
How do they get to just drive around like that?
dan friesen
Well, in some states, consular IDs are able to get you a driver's license.
jordan holmes
I mean, no, no, no.
I'm totally fine with that.
dan friesen
That's what she's responding to.
Like talking points surrounding that.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I just find that such a weird thing to...
How do they get to drive around like that?
dan friesen
It is strange.
jordan holmes
You can just drive.
You can just get into a car and drive.
There's nothing that stops you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I drove without a license for more time than I would like to say in my time in Missouri.
jordan holmes
You can do it whenever you want.
dan friesen
It expired and I couldn't afford to go through the process of getting a new ID.
jordan holmes
That simple.
dan friesen
Anyway, this same caller wants to know what we can do about this.
What can you do about these consular IDs?
alex jones
They're already issuing it all.
It's just total lawlessness, totally criminal government.
unidentified
What do we do about it?
I mean, what can I do?
alex jones
Well, we are the North Korean slaves.
We are the milk hog.
And so to further hurt us and further get us bankrupted so the government can really have its way with us and then take your children of your poor, that's the real official plan.
They've got to hoard in as many illegals as they can to drive down the wages and further implode and get everybody in debt who is in the system trying to pay the taxes that can't keep up.
More taxes to crush you.
More illegals to drive down wages.
And then most importantly, then the illegals, second generation, are made the police chiefs and the commanders everywhere.
And then they will rule us because they come from authoritarian regimes.
And then they will pull the lever to take our guns and property.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And then they will be the prison camp guards.
That's the plan.
I mean, it's an absolute New World Order banking plan.
dan friesen
Alex is a little more pepped up after he came back from watching that North Korea thing.
jordan holmes
He had to get a little of that, oh, foreign people!
dan friesen
And you may notice the similarity there between the end point of that conspiracy and his military-aged men conspiracy we heard last week on his show.
So this is a preoccupation that he's had over time, is the idea of...
Populations from Central and South America becoming police and taking his guns.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is weird.
It's weird.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's a good obsession to have because it can't and won't happen.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
But it is also a good obsession to have when you have an audience that is largely made up of uncritical thinking, xenophobic bigots.
And they love that kind of shit.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Go ahead with that.
If that's your plan, globalists, do it.
I dare you.
dan friesen
At least in this situation, Alex has an interesting wrinkle to the conspiracy where it's you're bringing in people and the second generation is when they get enlisted into it.
jordan holmes
See, now that I find even more hilarious.
dan friesen
It's such a long-term plan.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
The problem I have with so many of these plans is I don't want them to be stopped.
I don't want to stop them.
I want them to try and do it and watch how...
Spectacularly stupid, they explode.
That's the problem with all these stupid plans.
dan friesen
Do you know the level of organization and the number of people that would need to be involved to carry out a multi-generational...
jordan holmes
A multi-generational in this country?
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
So anyway, this same caller has another question for Alex, and this is the last clip of our show today.
unidentified
All right, and one more thing.
As someone who's interested in getting one of those Ecolo Blue, the reverse osmosis machine, as a user, have you noticed that perhaps maybe your energy levels have gone up?
Do you feel different?
alex jones
No, it's just really clean water.
It goes through a bunch of filters and is out of the atmosphere.
unidentified
Okay, so you won't notice, like, an energy level difference since they're putting fluoride in the water or anything like that?
alex jones
Oh, I mean, are you kidding?
Yeah, a few months after you start drinking really purified water, I mean, really purified, you'll feel...
jordan holmes
Hold the fucking phone.
alex jones
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Oh, wait.
I needed to be reminded of my conspiracy theory that is part of my sales pitch around these water filters.
jordan holmes
That is a mask-off moment that is unacceptable.
dan friesen
Yeah, a little bit.
Oh, I forgot.
I forgot I have a conspiracy about this.
jordan holmes
So it'll make you feel better?
No, it's just really clean water.
I was almost like, that's a good sales pitch.
dan friesen
Well, he does catch himself a little bit and then tries to cover by saying like...
You know, you're assuming that everyone's already drinking filtered water.
You wouldn't have a boost from other filtered, like pure water to this.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Well done.
Caught off guard with a sales pitch there.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is almost a little...
I mean, I would almost be more likely to buy something if he was like, no, no gimmicks.
It's just really fucking clean water.
I'd be like, actually, I might believe that.
alex jones
I would like clean water, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I might believe that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And to this, I would say, this is somebody who...
Seems real.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And sane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because when I think sane, I think in control.
And when I think in control, I think Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
On his toes, getting those sales beats.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So we come to the end of this, and I appreciate DJ Dan Arkey sending us on this trip.
It is kind of fun to see Alex...
Lose his shit about Glenn Beck because he didn't sleep last night and is feeling really self-conscious and is projecting a lot of his insecurities about himself onto Glenn Beck?
Yeah.
That's pretty fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if...
It is like if you didn't...
If Alex didn't have access to a TV or something, then there would be a doll named Blenble that he does the exact same thing to, right?
Like, it's just because there is a TV that he has some...
A thing to project onto that we also can see.
dan friesen
Now let me ask you this.
That doll would be a Matryoshka doll.
unidentified
No, it wouldn't.
jordan holmes
End of sentence!
dan friesen
Word of day.
So, Jordan, we will be back.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
I'm totally saying, you're saying, I'm saying, we, we're saying, everybody's saying.
unidentified
Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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