#858: October 7, 2023
In this installment, Dan and Jordan wrestle with a baffling and inappropriate "emergency" "special" "report" that Alex put out on Saturday. Jordan is left bewildered, as Alex shocks in new and unexpected ways.
Oct. 11, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:50:45
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| Andy and Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Not knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you, sir. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is first of all, it's nice to be back in the saddle. | ||
| It is nice to be back in the saddle. | ||
| We took a little bit of, you know, it wasn't that long of a break, but a break from recording to put out the live episodes, and it feels like it has been quite a while. | ||
| For us, anything longer than five days is an absurd length of time. | ||
| I think it's about a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe, because we recorded the one after we got back. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And so, yeah, it's fairly... | ||
| It's been about eight days. | ||
| Maybe a little over a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Too long. | ||
| Too long. | ||
| Five days is the... | ||
| Correct amount. | ||
| Maximum, yeah. | ||
| It's nice for me because I did take a little bit of time to myself. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| To play some video games and what have you. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| And do a little bit of work around the house. | ||
| But other than that, I was still working. | ||
| I had to put out the Apple Live episode. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then also, that leads me to my bright spot. | ||
| So, during the time that we were in the UK, it was wonderful. | ||
| And meeting people and having a chance to see the way that people interact with our show was incredibly valuable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And when we were at QED talking to... | |
| It was. | ||
| It was. | ||
| One of the things that I've realized in the time, including the trip, and since we have taken a little bit of time off, is I need focus. | ||
| I need a central focus. | ||
| And I think I've found my mission statement. | ||
| That will guide the next chapter of our podcast. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And my professional career. | ||
| This is like whenever you're watching a movie and like 45 minutes into it, they get the title card. | ||
| Or how I felt in Assassin's Creed Odyssey. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like I felt like it was halfway through the game. | ||
| Oh my god, it just started? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, I've figured out what I want the next... | ||
| I want to destroy Alex's career. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, not in terms of the future. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I will leave the courts to that. | ||
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Sure. | |
| They will take care of that on their own, and Alex is self-destructive enough that he's going to destroy his own career. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I want to destroy his legacy. | ||
| You want to dismantle it brick by brick. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So every hashtag Alex Jones will end before it was right. | ||
| I want to, and I'm going to make it my business and personal mission. | ||
| To destroy everything he's created. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the way I conceive of that is similar to the Endgame breakdown that we did. | ||
| I feel like anybody who takes that film seriously needs only listen to our podcast or look at the bibliography that is a breakdown of his bibliography to realize you should not take this seriously. | ||
| I would like to, and I intend to, create this for every piece of work that he has put out. | ||
| Not necessarily every episode of his show, because that's kind of what the podcast is. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But I am going to dismantle these works that he has put out. | ||
| And the first is The Great Reset, that book that he put out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm going to trash that thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so that's the next thing on my horizon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex has a new book coming out, which you've mentioned. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I hope to have this done and out by the time his new book comes out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I can destroy that too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's a lot of things that we do to avoid working on our own books, right? | ||
| Well, in some ways, this is another book that I'm working on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So it will be book length. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| That is definitely true. | ||
| As it stands now, the way it works, and I've been approaching this, is a page-by-page breakdown of his book. | ||
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And... | |
| It will be thorough. | ||
| Exhaustive. | ||
| It will be fine-tooth comb, go fuck yourself. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That'll be intense. | ||
| So then I was thinking about other things, and obviously do have to double back on some of his older documentaries and stuff. | ||
| And so I'm thinking of ways to conceive of those projects, possibly a video kind of work, like we have his documentary on and then I'll pop up. | ||
| That'd be fun, like a little VH1 pop-up video. | ||
| Kind of situation. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that is my vision. | ||
| Your raison d 'etre. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not going to change the podcast necessarily, but it's just going to be this is a focus. | ||
| This is what we're doing. | ||
| I feel like it's what I can do that is valuable to people and valuable to the information space that I want to nurture and cultivate. | ||
| And so count on that. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Believe in the shield. | ||
| Or something. | ||
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Alright. | |
| So what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is far less professional. | ||
| My wife celebrated her birthday. | ||
| Happy birthday. | ||
| We celebrated her birthday. | ||
| We had a great day. | ||
| You know, did very little actual stuff. | ||
| And then had a great dinner. | ||
| All fresh stuff. | ||
| Cooked it together. | ||
| It was fantastic. | ||
| Great, great, great stuff. | ||
| Lovely time, low-key. | ||
| We were a little bit, I mean, part of the problem is we're a little under the weather. | ||
| You know, had some sore throat. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| You know, we've all, I mean, we've all recently had a little bit of weather stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Weather here has been insane. | ||
| It has been nuts! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It has been nuts. | ||
| It was like 70 and then 40 and then 60 and now it's 50. No, and it is like, oh, I'm so shocked we have sinus issues whenever we're from Illinois and it's going from 80 to 40. Sure. | ||
| Not COVID. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But yeah, I was at a point where it actually even hurt to talk, kind of. | ||
| And so, yeah, I'm sorry y 'all are dealing with that. | ||
| No, I mean, we had a little bit of that. | ||
| I mean, it is so weird. | ||
| It's not funny, but it is weird to be like, I'm sick, but not with COVID. | ||
| Like, do we even still have other diseases? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's been such a central focus of health matters for so long that it is strange to get sick with something else. | ||
| Yeah, and it is both such a huge relief, and then at the same time, wait a second, I don't even know. | ||
| You know, like the COVID test is negative and you're like, yeah, I don't have COVID. | ||
| And then you're like, wait. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck I do have. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Good news, bad news. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Also, I had a fun moment when I was sick, or after I was sick. | ||
| I don't know if it's right for me to associate necessarily the flavored vapes that I've gotten with getting sick, but I feel like they make my throat feel bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have gotten a couple of this brand, which I will not name for the sake of not giving bad press. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Maybe it's my body. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| A couple times that I've bought this brand, I've felt not well afterwards, and so I went into the vape shop, and previous bright spot, the guy at the vape shop was there, and I was like, man, I think those flavored ones, they're great, they're fun, but I think they make me sick. | ||
| He's like, no, no, no, don't blame the vape. | ||
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He's like, the weather's been crazy. | |
| I like that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| He's not wrong. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| But also, come on, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These are not as regulated as anybody wants them to be. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Let's face that right out the gate. | ||
| It was so fun that it felt like he had a stake in it. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, he runs a vape store. | ||
| Of course he has a stake in it. | ||
| But he doesn't care what one I buy. | ||
| No, that's definitely true. | ||
| But he seemed to care. | ||
| I mean, listen, if one vape is bad, then it brings the whole vape. | ||
| Rising tide lifts all boats. | ||
| It's a net. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
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Okay. | |
| We're going to be talking about Alex's emergency Saturday, October 7th show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, you know, there's some difficulty, obviously, because the emergency is in reference to the outbreak of violence in Israel and in the Gaza Strip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, that's a tough situation to talk about just in general. | ||
| And then when you're talking about it through the prism of Alex's content, it becomes even more so. | ||
| And I don't like this episode. | ||
| I told you before we started, it's one of the most frustrating... | ||
| Infuriating episodes I've listened to in a very long time, and you'll see why as we go through it, but it almost made me throw something. | ||
| Yeah, I believe it. | ||
| No, I mean, it is weird, because I don't know how to... | ||
| I was trying to get in the mind of the anti-Semites and how they would react to this, and it's like, I don't know, because they hate Jews, obviously, anti-Semites. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And at the same time, though, they like... | ||
| Right-wing dictatorships, and it feels like this is where Israel's gonna go, you know? | ||
| So, like, I'm interested to see where we wind up with this. | ||
| In terms of Alex, I think he has far wider weirdness than maybe your run-of-the-mill person in his extreme right-wing sector. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that there are people who, not to say that they're... | ||
| Good or bad. | ||
| They're bad. | ||
| But there are people who have more thought-out positions than Alex. | ||
| Yeah, that I believe. | ||
| And those are people that you could expect some kind of, like, interesting, I guess, response. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In a negative way, interesting. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whereas with Alex, he's so unthoughtful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's got to be all over the place, right? | ||
| And it is to some extent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't think we're going to get into the events. | ||
| As much as people might expect. | ||
| I'm not at all surprised by that. | ||
| And, um, I don't know. | ||
| We'll get down to business on this. | ||
| But first, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, the Canadian jurist. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Andy in Occupy, Texas. | ||
| Oh, and fuck you, John Rappaport. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Wills, pronounced like Willis. | ||
| I'm just related to some lazy Belgians. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Oh, le Belgique. | ||
| That's how you say Belgian in French. | ||
| They don't say it like that way. | ||
| They're too lazy. | ||
| They don't end the word anymore. | ||
| You know who's not a lazy Belgian? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Hercule Poirot. | ||
| He's almost too busy. | ||
| His little gray cells are always working. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Next, I'm a children's librarian, so now Baby Shark haunts me in two different ways. | ||
| The original and the Alex Jones cover. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I didn't realize that Baby Shark was a literary thing. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| I thought it was just the song. | ||
| Maybe it was a commercial. | ||
| I've never looked into it. | ||
| I've never looked into it either. | ||
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I refuse on principle, I guess, just out of, like, spite. | |
| And Dan from Taumarinui, pronounced Taumarinui. | ||
| I was pretty close. | ||
| You were pretty close. | ||
| You are now policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Some of those words that are kind of close to Hawaiian or Polynesian, I think I can handle those a little better than others, just based on my childhood. | ||
| That's why I was interested. | ||
| That one I was interested in, to see how you did, because I was reading the phonetic, and I was like, I think Dan might be able to get this one sight unseen. | ||
| You throw in, like, Scandinavian words, and I'm lost. | ||
| You're not a consonant guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're not a big consonant guy. | ||
| Especially when it's like J's and K's and Z's. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| And then with the UK, with your pronunciation and stuff. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Spell words right. | ||
| We got a technocrat in the mix, George. | ||
| So thank you so much to Racist Teacup. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| So, obviously, this is... | ||
| It's not complicated circumstance in the world, and I don't believe that it does anything to sway my belief that Palestinian liberation is important and necessary. | ||
| I don't think that killing civilians is a way to go about it. | ||
| I think that Hamas is way out of line, and this is atrocious. | ||
| And I think that Israel is also atrocious for what they're doing in response. | ||
| I don't know how else to discuss this or to make a position clear. | ||
| I don't know enough to speak confidently and competently about this, but those are sort of some broad feelings that I have. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's hard to come up, like, I come away with it thusly. | ||
| This benefits only two groups of people. | ||
| The Netanyahu genociders and the Ayatollah genociders. | ||
| And the people that have nothing to do with it are the ones who are going to die. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Over and over and over again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| And that is an unacceptable state of affairs. | ||
| It just really is. | ||
| Is something that I think a lot of the, not necessarily a lot of the more sort of thoughtful analysis, but a lot of the responses that I've seen, particularly on social media, lose track of that unacceptable status quo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I just... | ||
| I don't have a solution. | ||
| I don't have any deeper insight than other people. | ||
| I saw a couple of points made wrongly and insanely, but that actually have a very important kernel of truth in them. | ||
| And that was people being like, oh, this is 9-11. | ||
| Remember where we were on 9-12? | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| And I think that is a really, really good way to look at this. | ||
| On 9-12... | ||
| Everybody in the United States was so fucking stupid and so absolutely emotionally wrecked that we went for the next 20 years believing a bunch of idiots and committing genocide. | ||
| It killed countless civilians unnecessarily, did not achieve any particular goal. | ||
| For no reason. | ||
| We spent trillions upon trillions of dollars that could have gone towards climate change and instead went towards making it worse and killing people. | ||
| So wherever you land on what is happening in the current situation, what blood you want or revenge or restorative justice or nothing, whatever you want out of the moment, what is going to happen is... | ||
| There's a good chance you're going to allow these monsters to run roughshod over the world for the next 20 years. | ||
| It's unfortunate, yeah. | ||
| It's a tragic situation on all fronts for the people who suffer, and that is, I think, the most primary thing. | ||
| Yeah, I would say this. | ||
| This is the primary thing to me. | ||
| It is the government of Israel... | ||
| And it is the government of fucking Iran that are fighting this. | ||
| And all the people are dying. | ||
| Well, now you're going to get into sounding a little bit like Alex. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| In saying that this was an attack particularly by Iran. | ||
| No, I mean, as far as that goes, I don't know who orchestrated any of this. | ||
| This has nothing to do with plans or was there a false flag or did they know or any of that stuff. | ||
| I'm talking about purely from the outcomes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| There's no outcome that benefits... | ||
| That is true. | ||
| And there is not like a position that I have that's like, Israel needs to stop existing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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That is absolutely not the position. | |
| It just can't treat the Palestinians like the way that it has. | ||
| And, you know, Palestinians should be free. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that terrorists should be out killing civilians. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| None of that's okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I find myself least competent in situations like this. | ||
| And so, let's get to Alex. | ||
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Let's do it. | |
| Let's jump to this as he opens the news day. | ||
| Well, the crew was going to get a day off today, but I called them and they came in and I really appreciate them because I woke up at about 5:00 AM this morning and Hezbollah slash Iran had launched a massive attack in the south of Israel in the central areas and in the north with kamikaze paragliders. | ||
| With kamikaze drones, with thousands, over 5,000 missiles. | ||
| Biggest attack on Israel in decades. | ||
| Now there's a lot of news and a lot of coverage of this. | ||
| In less than 10 hours, we've seen more coverage of what's happening in Israel than what we've seen in a year and a half in the exploding war between NATO and Russia in Ukraine. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| That is weird. | ||
| Seems unnecessary to bring that up. | ||
| But Alex can't help but take some jabs to weave other conspiracies into this, because that's kind of what he does. | ||
| Also, I think he meant to say Hamas. | ||
| I was going to say, it would make more sense for it to be Hamas than Hezbollah, but what are you going to do? | ||
| Hezbollah operates out of Lebanon to the north of Israel, and they did take credit for firing some rockets, but they were into disputed territory, and not necessarily... | ||
| It's essential to the matter of the day. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure, sure. | |
| As of the time that this episode is being prepared, there are allegations that Iran and Hezbollah, who are, you know, Hezbollah is backed by Iran. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They helped coordinate this attack. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But U.S. officials have said that they haven't seen information confirming these claims and it is not established. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You may want to say that it's possible, but for Alex to lead his coverage like this is very inaccurate and irresponsible. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| But that's what he's about. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you accurately, I think, smelled some of what this, some of the conversation might be in terms of false flags. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And stuff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So here's where Alex is at. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Before I drill through all what's currently happening, let's get the big takeaways here. | ||
| First off, and I'm not attacking Israel here, but I'm stating a fact. | ||
| There is no way that Shinbat and the Mossad did not know that Iran, who's running this, was gearing up for this. | ||
| This is a massive attack with tens of thousands of militia soldiers, over 5,000 missiles and growing, hundreds of men on paragliders coming in, groups in motorcycles and bulldozers smashing through barbed wire and walls. | ||
| This is massive. | ||
| And, of course, they struck during the Sabbath on Saturday when they would have lower levels of security forces. | ||
| But if you don't think that that border between Gaza Strip and Israel isn't the most militarized on the planet, you're not informed. | ||
| So I'm not saying that isn't a real Hezbollah attack. | ||
| I'm not saying Iran isn't behind it. | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| I think it's a terrible situation. | ||
| It's kind of out of control. | ||
| But the big takeaway here is they're calling it the biggest intelligence failure in Israeli history. | ||
| Just like 9-11, the biggest intelligence failure in U.S. history. | ||
| But they had nothing but thousands of warnings and knew the exact specifics, and there were stand-downs taken. | ||
| This will definitely help Benjamin Yett and Yahoo. | ||
| So you can say that this plays into Netanyahu's... | ||
| Sort of mode of operation. | ||
| But at the same time, you're seeing in much of the Israeli press disapproval with Netanyahu. | ||
| And so maybe it doesn't play into his overall thing. | ||
| That being said, Alex is just making up. | ||
| This is a stand-down. | ||
| It's like his version of what happened on 9-11, that Mossad and Shen Bet let this happen. | ||
| That's what he's angling at. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think what I've been thinking about that is that it is such an interesting question to me, not because did they know, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| What matters is that it did happen, right? | ||
| So you have two options now. | ||
| You have either they had information, You've got more than two options. | ||
| They had information and they deliberately ignored it to achieve the outcome that they desired. | ||
| They had information but couldn't understand it or couldn't parse it in such a way that made it useful. | ||
| Or they didn't have information. | ||
| Or a third option. | ||
| I mean, that was the third option. | ||
| Fourth option then. | ||
| A lot of what I've been seeing is that there were warnings that came in that were general. | ||
| In a sense. | ||
| And Netanyahu's government was too focused on issues in the West Bank, where there had been outbreaks of violence, that a lot of the attention was there. | ||
| Additionally, a lot of attention was being put on this judicial reform that Netanyahu was trying to pass, and they underestimated what could be organized within Gaza. | ||
| And that is a completely plausible... | ||
| Explanation for an intelligence failure. | ||
| You don't need to say they let this happen just based on it being unlikely. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, the thing about any of those outcomes, though, the thing about any of those answers is that they do all continue to point back to... | ||
| It is a complete waste of money. | ||
| And so either... | ||
| It's almost like I would rather... | ||
| I mean, and I kind of understand. | ||
| I would almost rather it be a false flag because then at least I know that the intelligence operatives have a use and are competent. | ||
| The way it is so far, every opportunity I've seen for the intelligence community to do something useful, they have... | ||
| Fucked up so hard, but every time they've had the opportunity to fuck people over, they've done a great job of doing that. | ||
| So what is the money going to? | ||
| And that's kind of the situation that you wind up in. | ||
| And I guess the system would say that that's a function of the when things go bad, it's very publicized. | ||
| So funny how the system... | ||
| And when things don't go bad... | ||
| It doesn't get any press. | ||
| That's crazy how the system justifies itself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that would be the argument, I guess, that would come there. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But yeah, I think what you're putting your finger on is one of the reasons that those false flag type conspiracies are very comforting to people. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Is because they retain the image of absolute competence. | ||
| In things like the intelligence organizations that could keep us safe. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, ultimately you have to keep coming back to, I keep coming back to, as far as all of the intelligence agencies are concerned, when it comes to what they are sold to me as doing, which is protecting us by gathering information and then, you know, stopping things before they happen. | ||
| That sales pitch. | ||
| Is the exact opposite from what they do, which is not any of that, and they choose information to fuck people over with. | ||
| I mean, it's tough to argue with that. | ||
| I'm sure there's some other things. | ||
| Anyway, the point is that Alex is, that's his editorial line that he's taking, is that this was allowed to happen in order to bring in New World Order stuff or something. | ||
| And also Biden's to blame. | ||
| There's a lot of moving parts here, but let's pull back from those. | ||
| Those are big, but they're still penultimate, meaning not the number one issue. | ||
| The number one issue is Biden gave $6 billion last month of frozen assets to Iran. | ||
| President Trump predicted, and I have his predictions right here, that within a few months, Iran would attack Israel. | ||
| We got footage in Tehran that's on screen. | ||
| Where they were celebrating. | ||
| In exchange for the release of wrongly detained Americans, Biden did unfreeze $6 billion that belonged to Iran. | ||
| This was money that was stuck in a South Korean bank and represented proceeds from the sale of Iranian oil. | ||
| I've seen a lot of people saying it's taxpayer money and stuff like that. | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| Part of the arrangement was that Iran could only use this unfrozen asset, this amount, for, quote, things like food, medicine, medical equipment, and the like, according to Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. | ||
| And the unfreezing, the account is also wholly regulated by the U.S. Treasury Department, so funds couldn't be disputed. | ||
| to support groups like Hamas or Hezbollah. | ||
| Now, at the same time, people like Alex would say, yeah, other funds are then diverted to support these groups and then this money makes up the shortfall and then I guess the argument is just don't let anybody have any money. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm for disbanding any and all governments, so I suppose that's my position. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, Alex doesn't know what penultimate means. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And you can dispute the wisdom of negotiating for hostages or if unfreezing these funds was the appropriate thing to do, but it's an incredible reach to make a connection between this act and the recent attack. | ||
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| I don't think that is appropriate, and Alex just needs a way to blame Biden. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's weak tea. | ||
| That's weak tea. | ||
| Biden negotiated a hostage release solely in order to give Iran enough money to finance an attack on Israel. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| Nope, you're not going to sell me on that one. | ||
| So, bare minimum. | ||
| Bare minimum. | ||
| There's a conspiracy going on. | ||
| Well, obviously. | ||
| Bare minimum, the Israeli military and Mossad knew that a big buildup was coming. | ||
| They may not have known the exact moment. | ||
| But there's no way to have tens of thousands of people that participated in this, tens of thousands, on the Arab side, on the Muslim side, on the Palestinian side, on the Iranian side, on the side of the occupied areas, or unoccupied, or those different zones with the expanding Jewish settlements going into them. | ||
| So, no one can debate. | ||
| That Benjamin Netanyahu was given briefings in the last week that an imminent attack, a massive attack was coming. | ||
| They've got Arab spies all over the Gaza Strip to the south and the Golan Heights to the north and all the rest of it. | ||
| You can't swing a stick in the dark and not hit an Israeli asset. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So, the fact that the Israelis didn't know this was coming, Is balderdash. | ||
| Balderdash. | ||
| So, I mean, Alex can say whatever he wants about the human spy potential, but from other things that I've been reading, you know, folks, particularly even folks within the Israeli government, they've talked about how... | ||
| There's been an over-reliance on surveillance capabilities, particularly in the Gaza area. | ||
| Israel relied heavily on technological superiority, and from comments that I've heard, Hamas just used that against them by eschewing things like technology when they were planning meetings and stuff. | ||
| Oh, yeah, they put their phones in the goddamn fridge. | ||
| From what I can tell, and things that I've read, Is not a situation where there are spies around every corner. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And in fact, the human intelligence aspect of Israeli penetration into Gaza is fairly limited compared to what they've relied on in terms of drones. | ||
| If your enemies digital, fight analog. | ||
| Basically, yes. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that Alex is also super imposing talking points about 9-11 onto this. | ||
| Like, it's certain that Netanyahu had a brief that imminent attack, that's just using the language of 9-11 stuff and Bush. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| I don't think that Alex can... | ||
| Back this up. | ||
| That is the thing that should give all of us the most pause. | ||
| Anytime somebody starts throwing 9-11 rhetoric around, everyone should stop, be like, somebody's fucking up here, we need to slow it down, cool it down, nobody can talk like this ever again. | ||
| Or, at the very least, if you're using 9-11 rhetoric and such, let's make sure that your thoughts aren't drifting into the solutions that were used after 9-11. | ||
| At least show some indication that you learned some lessons from the post-9-11 period. | ||
| Which I despair of ever seeing. | ||
| So Alex has a prediction of what's going to happen. | ||
| And, I mean, obviously in the days since we've seen turning off the electricity in Gaza and atrocities against civilians. | ||
| And that's all very horrible. | ||
| And Alex's version of it is a little bit less grounded. | ||
| Now, let's talk big picture. | ||
| The minute I woke up this morning and saw this, I thought, wow, Iran is trying to draw Israel into a full war. | ||
| They think they're ready. | ||
| And sure enough, later, the mullahs were like, we want a full war with Israel. | ||
| We're ready. | ||
| Why are they ready? | ||
| I was told by high-level individuals over a decade ago that Iran already has atomic bombs. | ||
| And that's one reason Israel and the U.S. haven't moved against them. | ||
| It's all we got to stop them from getting a bomb. | ||
| You know, technically, fact checkers say Jones is wrong. | ||
| Iran doesn't have a bomb. | ||
| I saw a guy on Joe Rogan last month attacking me saying, Jones says a lot of stuff is true, but I heard him say a decade ago that Iran has atomic bombs. | ||
| Well, buddy, you don't know people flying around in the airplanes and that have access to the satellites like I do, who told me they have the signature scanners. | ||
| Particle scanners that tell them that they've got atomic bombs. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And so we'll just see who's right in the end. | ||
| But the point is, to all the fools that don't think Iran has nuclear weapons, no one knew India had them for a long time. | ||
| No one knew Pakistan had them for a long time, decades ago. | ||
| And it turned out they'd had them for decades. | ||
| And you don't think it's only Americans in the 1940s that can make an atomic bomb. | ||
| They got smart people. | ||
| Were there aliens? | ||
| The Persians are smart. | ||
| The Indians are smart. | ||
| The Chinese are smart. | ||
| The Pakistanis are smart. | ||
| They got some of the best mathematicians, okay? | ||
| So we kind of get arrogant here in the West and think brown people can't come up with weapons, and that's horse crap, okay? | ||
| That's not an arrogance of the West. | ||
| That's a thought of racists. | ||
| I think Alex is explaining that us racists sometimes minimize what we think brown people are capable of doing intellectually, and we should maybe not think that way. | ||
| Let's hold on to our racism, but realize that that's fucked up. | ||
| That is... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You know, if you get to this place where you say... | ||
| Our greatest weakness as racists is the inevitability of underestimating our theoretical, quote, enemy, right? | ||
| By the very nature of what we believe. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Our beliefs are inaccurate when it comes to the people we are looking down upon. | ||
| You should, at the very least, be able to go, hmm, maybe, and then from there. | ||
| It certainly calls into question, first... | ||
| Assumption. | ||
| You'd think! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You'd think! | ||
| So, Iran apparently has nukes, which is contestable, certainly. | ||
| And Alex says there's a certainty. | ||
| But everybody has nukes. | ||
| Here's the bigger takeaway. | ||
| We're officially told that Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons. | ||
| They've had nuclear weapons since 1964, at least. | ||
| They've got thousands of them. | ||
| And they've got submarines. | ||
| And they've got fighter bombers. | ||
| And they've got cruise missiles. | ||
| And they've got thousands of nuclear warheads. | ||
| Israel is arguably the fifth largest nuclear power in the world. | ||
| So let's just get that straight, too. | ||
| And we can have somebody go on Joe Rogan and say, Alex Jones doesn't know what he's talking about. | ||
| Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| Let me tell you something else. | ||
| Saudi Arabia has nuclear weapons. | ||
| They've had them for at least 30 years. | ||
| Alright, so many people believe that Israel does possess nuclear weapons, although the specifics around the matter in their program aren't known. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is in fairly safe territory asserting a belief that Israel has nukes. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I don't think people would really be like that. | ||
| Like, the official position that a lot of folks, especially higher-ups, have is that, like, it's pretty likely. | ||
| But Israel won't confirm or deny the existence of nukes in their arsenal. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But Saudi Arabia is another matter. | ||
| That's a very hotly contested claim that Alex is making. | ||
| They do not have nukes by all estimates that I've been able to find. | ||
| I mean, what I find interesting about it is that the more I think about it, the more it is a complete waste of time and money. | ||
| Just to even have nukes or talk about them. | ||
| Because the only outcome is either everyone dies quickly or everyone dies slowly. | ||
| Using any of them is pointless. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| Fine, you can have them. | ||
| That's great, but it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| It's only useful, I guess, if you want to be a completely rogue nation and not get attacked. | ||
| Yeah, that's about as good as it gets for you. | ||
| That seems to be what it's used for now. | ||
| Once you get to that point, people can't fuck with you. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, there is a part of me that says the only thing that's smart to do with nuclear weapons is to give every single nation one nuclear weapon as a memorial to how fucking stupid we all are. | ||
| I would say that's a bad idea. | ||
| It is a bad idea, but it's a bad idea for anybody to have them, and it's a worse idea for the United States and Russia to have them just because we're the only people who've almost already destroyed the entire group multiple times. | ||
| Shown to be slightly irresponsible with them. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not worried about people killing everybody on purpose. | ||
| I'm worried about idiots killing people on accident. | ||
| You know what I was surprised by? | ||
| What? | ||
| I was looking over the countries that have nukes. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| France is on that list. | ||
| Yeah, of course France has nukes. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Everybody that fought World War II got nukes afterwards. | ||
| Eh, not everybody. | ||
| Well, that's fair. | ||
| That's fair, not everybody. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, I think the point here, well, one side point is that Alex is really upset about somebody talking shit about him on Rogan. | ||
| Yeah, that is really specific. | ||
| Seems to be bringing that up a bit. | ||
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Yep. | |
| But the other point is that Alex is wanting to really exacerbate tensions in the audience. | ||
| If they were feeling worried about what they saw in the news, this is tailor-made to make them even more worried. | ||
| Now, apparently about every country has nukes, and they're about to fly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is kind of an irresponsible escalation of tensions and fear. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's kind of what Alex does. | ||
| I mean, it's... | ||
| That's how he makes money. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Like, I keep going back to there's no point in planning for nuclear war. | ||
| We're all dead. | ||
| You know, there's no big deal. | ||
| In fact, I almost prefer it. | ||
| I think that's not necessarily true. | ||
| Like, we're not all dead immediately. | ||
| Right away. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, but there's, you know, everybody wastes away. | ||
| You might as well be dead. | ||
| Well, you could find ways to thrive while you're wasting away. | ||
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Oh, yeah? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I agree with you slightly. | ||
| Here's where I would agree with you. | ||
| Preparing for that happening, like a nuclear war launching off, is kind of tough and maybe not worth your time because if we get to that point, everything you could have prepared for is now unpredictable. | ||
| And I don't know how much you can prepare. | ||
| Three bottles of wine and a bottle of sleeping pills is what you prepare for a nuclear war. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You're in a dark mood while you smile like the Joker. | ||
| No, I'm just saying that it's such a silly thing to be afraid or prepare for. | ||
| It's all over at that point. | ||
| It's like the rapture. | ||
| I'm not going to prepare for the rapture because we all know it's post-trib. | ||
| First off. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Wait, no, Alex likes that. | ||
| Alex is like, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He likes that one. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So Alex talks some more about the day's attack, and I think he catches himself a little. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Over 5,000 missiles and counting. | ||
| That number's a couple hours old. | ||
| They say more are raining down right now, and some of them are larger than the past ones. | ||
| It's killed a whole bunch of people. | ||
| Cars, buildings, you name it, are on fire. | ||
| But that was the artillery distraction for the overrunning of much of southern Israel by forces of the militia of Iran known as Hezbollah. | ||
| Hamas. | ||
| I know there's two different groups. | ||
| I feel like you're telling yourself that. | ||
| The point is that this is all very, very, very upsetting. | ||
| And disgusting. | ||
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And... | |
| Guys, pull up the definition of Hezbollah for me, print it up, and the definition of Hamas. | ||
| One's the Sunnis, one's the Shiites. | ||
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What? | |
| And sometimes I flip names around and things like that, but Hezbollah works for Iran. | ||
| Hamas is the Sunni-backed one. | ||
| And that's what I'm saying. | ||
| And I'm sticking to that. | ||
| Even though people are popping in my ear telling me the opposite. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I would say based on this, I wouldn't trust Alex to be the person I'm taking emergency breaking news from. | ||
| And I include myself in that category too. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I don't have... | ||
| Some kind of an assessment and a way to break this news down in a way that's more valuable to you than some other source. | ||
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Totally. | |
| That has a lot more information, a lot more experience in that area of the world. | ||
| Hands on nature with that. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I think I would be a bad person to get breaking news from. | ||
| And Alex is also very bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think it is this show. | ||
| This is focused on a thing. | ||
| This is where you get news about the thing. | ||
| It's the best place to get news about the thing. | ||
| I can talk about Alex quite a bit. | ||
| Other stuff. | ||
| There are other people who do that thing. | ||
| Go to them! | ||
| And they've got a thing for that thing. | ||
| And I will say that Alex is not the person to go to for that thing. | ||
| In any situation. | ||
| No thing! | ||
| Especially when he's muttering to himself weirdly about wanting somebody to pull up the definition of Hamas and Hezbollah. | ||
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I know the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah. | |
| It's not what I want to hear from somebody explaining to me the difference. | ||
| Despite people telling me differently in my ear. | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| I'm self-speaking into my ear right now saying I am wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I insist that I am correct. | ||
| So now Alex is incorrect some more. | ||
| And Iran is celebrating it, and Iran is basically taking credit for it. | ||
| And so regardless of what you think of Iran, whether you like them, hate them, or indifferent, I'm neutral. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| I want to stop World War III. | ||
| And we have Iran helping Russia with drones and all the rest of it. | ||
| So you can see how this war is expanding with this coalition of Russia, Iran, China, and now North Korea. | ||
| And then financially, you've got Brazil and India and the BRICS nations teamed up with China and Russia. | ||
| And so the U.S. policies that are taking place here Of giving $6 billion to Iran last month is definitely part of this. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Also, Iran didn't take responsibility for the attack. | ||
| That would be absurd for them to do that, period. | ||
| That would be essentially starting a Middle East war. | ||
| I mean, I guess Alex said they basically took responsibility, which is a pretty heavy word. | ||
| Or it's a word that's carrying a lot of weight. | ||
| Carrying a lot of weight there, yeah. | ||
| Also, Alex in that clip is accidentally bringing up something that he would have a hard time rationalizing to his audience. | ||
| I thought Russia and Putin were waging the good fight against the New World Order. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But here they're aligned with and helping Iran, the country that's so horrible by Alex's estimate. | ||
| How does that square up? | ||
| Like, they're working with China and Iran, like all of these villain countries for Alex. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, we're also working with... | ||
| Iran after the $6 billion in aid thing. | ||
| Like, what does any of this mean? | ||
| Well, sure, but there is a difference between trying to get relations on a more solid footing as a way to possibly get more progress in the future towards shared... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a difference between that and the very real military alliance between Russia and Iran. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| A little different. | ||
| Slightly different. | ||
| And Alex just mutters these country names. | ||
| Yada, yada, yada. | ||
| Shouldn't his audience have real concerns about this? | ||
| They should have real concerns about a lot more shit than they do. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex is wrong some more. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| But you notice what I'm saying is, is the Israelis are saying Iran is behind this. | ||
| Not even so much Hamas. | ||
| And yes, obviously Hamas is a big part of the whole thing. | ||
| What I'm saying is when it comes to attacking Israel, the Shiites and the Sunnis end up joining forces. | ||
| So yes, technically you can say both ways are right. | ||
| Oh, for God's sakes. | ||
| Hamas... | ||
| Even when I'm wrong, I'm right. | ||
| ...is the Islamic resistance movement, Palestine, Sunni Islamic fundamentalists, militant and nationalist organization as a... | ||
| Social service wing, Dawah, and is a military wing. | ||
| Then you've got Hezbollah, which is Lebanese Shia, Islamist political party and militant group. | ||
| And again, that's backed by Iran. | ||
| You probably weren't joking, but he is just reading the Wikipedia pages. | ||
| I wasn't joking. | ||
| He 100% was reading the Wikipedia pages. | ||
| He was. | ||
| And also from the things that I've been able to find, the Israeli government is also not blaming Iran. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They are also on the same page as the United States with the we have not seen information that confirms this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Alex is saying that they're saying it was. | ||
| He's just off. | ||
| It would be a bad idea. | ||
| If I was running things, I wouldn't be like, hey, now's the time to do this if I were Iran. | ||
| I'd wait like six months at least. | ||
| Well, here's the reality of the situation in terms of this blame stuff. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex is just like Trump blamed Iran. | ||
| So that's what Alex is doing. | ||
| Oh, that makes sense. | ||
| Here's Jack Posobiec tweeting, one month ago, Trump predicted the $6 billion that Biden gave Iran would be used for terror attacks across the Middle East and specifically kidnapping. | ||
| This is exactly what we're seeing in Israel this morning. | ||
| And here's Trump. | ||
| Can you believe the crooked Joe Biden is giving $6 billion to the terrorist regime in Iran? | ||
| That money would be used for terrorism all in the Middle East and indeed the world. | ||
| This incompetent fool is absolutely destroying America. | ||
| He had the capacity, I mean the audacity, to announce this terrible deal today, September 11th, to pay for hostages will lead to kidnapping, ransom and blackmail against Americans across the globe. | ||
| I've freed many dozens of people from various unfriendly countries and never paid a dime. | ||
| And we've got new statements by Trump. | ||
| They're up on Infowars.com, where he is blaming Iran. | ||
| And I think that's the main culprit with the actual funding, though they're working with the Shiites. | ||
| We'll pull this up. | ||
| It's on Infowars.com. | ||
| Perhaps you guys can print me the story, but here it is. | ||
| Trump blasts Biden for Hamas attack on Israel. | ||
| American taxpayer-funded dollars helped these attacks. | ||
| The taxpayer-funded dollars is not correct. | ||
| And the issue that you run into with this, and one of the things that I find particularly offensive about it is, I mean, the issue of what's happening in Gaza is a very serious issue that requires people paying attention, people caring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex is turning this into a petty political thing. | ||
| This is Trump trying to score points on Biden. | ||
| And Alex, a lot of his coverage is in service of furthering that goal for Trump. | ||
| And I find that to be pretty offensive and distasteful. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, 100%. | ||
| I also find it like... | ||
| Why is it totally accepted reasoning for so many people to think, like, entrusting violent children in the hands of a psychopath is the best way to keep us all safe? | ||
| I mean, it is like, how is it possible that people believe that Trump being in control of a military is going to keep you more safe? | ||
| Well, the only way that... | ||
| You could even make that argument, and I think that some people tried to do this with the last time, was that... | ||
| The crazy man theory? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You never know what he's going to do, so you don't want to do anything? | ||
| He's so chaotic that, like... | ||
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| And I think that that's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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That makes sense. | |
| That's the only way that you could even make a coherent argument, that it's a better set of affairs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But yeah, I just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't like the minimization of other people's real life, their real oppression, their real death. | ||
| Both Israeli civilians and Palestinian civilians. | ||
| I don't think that it's right to take that and use it to power your fuck you, Biden. | ||
| Why'd you do this deal? | ||
| Your deal is what's really behind this. | ||
| It's degrading. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is turning... | ||
| There is a story, there's a narrative with characters, and everything else, everyone who's not a character in that narrative is disposable and useless and pointless and is just there as set decoration. | ||
| Until it's time to do something else, and then they revert back. | ||
| Yeah, the agency of a human being is stolen in service of a narrative. | ||
| Ironic for people who are so into individualism and what have you. | ||
| Yeah, strange. | ||
| So Alex reads a little bit about this $6 billion. | ||
| That was unfrozen. | ||
| I think he accidentally reads the part where there are restrictions. | ||
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| And, you know, what are you going to do? | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Former President Trump said today he blamed Joe Biden for the Palestinian terror group. | ||
| Hamas surprised out on Israel, citing his administration's unfreezing of billions of funds to Iran last month. | ||
| These Hamas attacks are a disgrace, and Israel has every right to defend itself with overwhelming force, Trump wrote on Truth Social. | ||
| Sadly, American taxpayer dollars helped fund these attacks, with many reports are saying came from the Biden administration. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| more rapid pace than anyone thought possible. | ||
| Here we go again. | ||
| On September 8th, Secretary Blinken undertook the procedural step of ongoing process to ensure Iranian funds can move from restricted account to another and remain restricted to humiliate to Humanitarian aid. | ||
| National Security Council spokesman Andrea Watson said in a statement, as we have said from the outset, what is being pursued here is an arrangement where we secure the release of five wrongfully held Americans. | ||
| This remains a sensitive and ongoing process. | ||
| So again, Trump is saying that the money came from Iran. | ||
| Obviously, he's got a lot of good sources. | ||
| So I just instinctively know that Iran is normally the one that's able to launch. | ||
| Or fund attacks of this size, and Hamas has not been able to, but Hamas is taking the main credit. | ||
| That way then, just the Gaza Strip gets bombed, and there's not a larger war with Iran. | ||
| But I think Israel is going to blame Iran, and I think Israel's going to at least bomb Iran, and maybe go to full war with Iran. | ||
| Interesting prediction. | ||
| That's a bad prediction. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I don't necessarily mean it's right or wrong. | ||
| I mean, that is a bad thing to occur. | ||
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| It is. | ||
| And I think, as we're recording this, it feels unlikely. | ||
| Let's hope. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I think that Alex is just off. | ||
| He's off about so many things. | ||
| And I think that there is an acceptability of suggesting that you believe. | ||
| That Iranian funding may have contributed or something. | ||
| You know, you can have a suspicion. | ||
| But the way that Alex is talking about such certainty, it's not a healthy way to engage with current events, I don't think. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, there's no way for you to build a conspiracy out of... | ||
| An apartheid state will inevitably create a terrorist organization that tries to take down the apartheid state, only reinforcing the power of the apartheid state. | ||
| That is simply how it goes. | ||
| That's the cycle of the apartheid state. | ||
| That's not a conspiracy. | ||
| That's not like Netanyahu knew this was coming so much as it is by virtue of creating a government that does this. | ||
| You create this thing also, a force of opposition to that government. | ||
| And that's just how it works. | ||
| It's just how it's always gone. | ||
| We create the terrorists that try to destroy us. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Sure, I think you can point to that cycle. | ||
| But Alex doesn't think it was Hamas. | ||
| Of course not! | ||
| He thinks it was Hezbollah. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| So again, this is tomorrow's news today. | ||
| We'll see if I'm right. | ||
| Mainstream media is telling us it's basically all Hamas. | ||
| I'm saying it's mainly Hezbollah. | ||
| But we will see. | ||
| I mean, is it Hamas helping the Russians in Ukraine? | ||
| Yeah, I'm just saying it's Hezbollah. | ||
| They don't have the capacity. | ||
| And that's what I wanted to get to next. | ||
| What I know for a fact is incontrovertible. | ||
| Iran has smuggled in and infiltrated this country. | ||
| They report thousands a month coming across the Texas border. | ||
| Military-age men from Iran and from other Shiite countries. | ||
| And they are very serious fighters, and they are willing to die in suicide missions. | ||
| And if we ever do go to full war with Iran, they are going to activate those groups. | ||
| To do very similar things to what you just saw done to Israel. | ||
| And that's going to be terrible for those that get killed or the power grid that gets attacked. | ||
| We know Iran's been looking at that. | ||
| But what I'm really worried about is how our liberties and freedoms will be taken. | ||
| Because there's a, quote, Muslim threat on 9-11, so we then lose all our rights on the Patriot Act, whose main mission is Trump supporters and the American people today. | ||
| That's official now. | ||
| So this is the real thing that Alex is on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was less than a week ago that we were doing an episode about Alex insisting that Biden was letting in military-aged men at the southern border because they were trying to purge the military and create an all-immigrant policing force. | ||
| Now, apparently, the military-aged men threat you need to be scared about is the Hezbollah fighters who have come in and are comprising sleeper cells in the United States. | ||
| When they activate, they'll be used to take away the freedom of American people and demonize Trump supporters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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If you listen to Alex's show, you should realize the way these touch points are constantly recontextualized to make you fear different things depending on what Alex's... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Use it two wholly different ways. | ||
| Within the span of like a week and a half. | ||
| And then look at the other detail. | ||
| The attack on the power grid. | ||
| Alex has constantly said that the globalists are going to do that to blame Russia. | ||
| But now apparently Iran is looking at it. | ||
| That's been proven. | ||
| They've been looking at it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You take these concrete things. | ||
| That you've built up anxiety and fear around and then apply them to whatever you need in order for... | ||
| And then you pretend that you didn't do it around this in the past. | ||
| And it can't be understated that this is Red Scare. | ||
| This is like, hey, the Reds have put in sleeper cells here. | ||
| They could be anywhere. | ||
| I mean, it does seem weird that we're only attacking civil rights and Jewish people. | ||
| This has been done constantly with the sleeper cell fears and stuff. | ||
| We've seen this over the course of the time that we've been doing the podcast. | ||
| We've seen... | ||
| There are repeated instances of this trying to drum up fears, whether it be people coming in over the border. | ||
| That's been used a number of times. | ||
| Antifa, that's been used a number of times. | ||
| Black Lives Matter, for sure. | ||
| This has constantly been something that has been used to evoke fear of the unknown, fear of the people who are unlike you and such. | ||
| This was bound to get to. | ||
| In terms of this coverage, this is where it was meant to go. | ||
| Because, unfortunately... | ||
| I don't think Alex's audience cares much about the plight of the Palestinian people. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I don't think that what's going on in Israel and Gaza is really that resonant to a lot of Alex's audience from an emotional standpoint. | ||
| You can have fear of geopolitics in an abstract sense, but bringing it home to where they need to now be scared of Hezbollah fighters when they're trying to go to the grocery store. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is what is impactful in terms of keeping the audience in that fear state. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, in this case, with this type of conflict, and I mean, it's hard for people to understand this if they're not in it, right? | ||
| But you take a conflict like Russia and Ukraine, and you can make a good guy and a bad guy out of it, right? | ||
| But any conflict in Israel for the religious right is end-time shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you can't make a good or bad guy out of there. | ||
| You either have to say this is the end times or it's not the end times. | ||
| And you've got to roll with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if you're talking about it through the prism of that end times stuff, there is an inevitability. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| To stuff. | ||
| And that's when we get from you can be afraid of shit to now we know what the steps are going to be. | ||
| You can't frighten me with what might happen. | ||
| I got the fucking book of revelations open. | ||
| You said end times, buddy. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
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| So, one thing I want to drive into, like, real sharp focus for you is that at the beginning of this show, Alex said he woke up at five in the morning and there was this news, and so he called in the staff. | ||
| They were going to have the day off, so he called them in to do this emergency report. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is going to be important as we move forward. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Just keep that in mind. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Because here's the first clip where things felt a little weird. | ||
| I didn't know what was going on here. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And I don't care whether it's the Israeli leadership or the German leadership or the U.K. leadership or the Canadian leadership or the U.S. leadership or any of it. | ||
| At the top, they're eugenicists, globalists, transhumanists that think we're all a bunch of animals. | ||
| Yuval Noah Harari is Jewish. | ||
| He's the main spokesman for the World Economic Forum. | ||
| We're going to talk about him in a moment with an expert. | ||
| And his quotes, go read them as, the human error is over. | ||
| Humans will be extinct soon. | ||
| AI will be God and rule you. | ||
| Well, Hitler just said that the future's not these groups. | ||
| That was bad enough. | ||
| This guy's up there saying the future's not human. | ||
| The end of the human era is here. | ||
| And that we'll be extinct by 2050. | ||
| Well, that sounds as bad as Hitler as it gets, but he's a chicken-neck, gay, Jewish guy. | ||
| So it's like, well, he's a chicken-neck, you know, Jewish guy, so he's non-threatening, you know, like... | ||
| Tim Cook runs giant slave camps, the worst in China, using Uyghur slaves, but he's gay, and he wears a turtleneck and has a little neck. | ||
| Like, well, he's non-threatening and talks with a lisp. | ||
| Oh, Sergey Brin and all these guys, Larry Page, they're like nerds, so they're non-threatening. | ||
| They know that, folks, and you want to compare them to Hitler, they say the future's not human. | ||
| Hitler just said the future's Aryan. | ||
| And he's going to take over and kill everybody else, and that's terrible. | ||
| But you see how all the other racial groups act. | ||
| Every other group has their supremacist. | ||
| Every other group organizes and says, we're the best, we're the kings, we're the chosen people. | ||
| Everybody does that. | ||
| Except Christians that unify everybody under Christ. | ||
| No matter what color you are. | ||
| And the Big Ten. | ||
| That's one big reason to be a Christian. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I don't even know why this happened. | ||
| Like, why did this branching path happen? | ||
| It seems very bizarre to jump into a rant about Yuval Noah Harari. | ||
| Doesn't seem relevant. | ||
| He's like, first of all, not the main spokesperson for the World Economic Forum. | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| He's just spoken there a few times. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Main spokesman, been there. | ||
| Same difference. | ||
| I was trying to think of, like, what is the issue here? | ||
| Obviously, Harari is a Jewish person. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But also, he's an Israeli citizen. | ||
| He lives in Tel Aviv. | ||
| But he's not part of the government. | ||
| And he doesn't have any real attachment to power, a real connection to power. | ||
| So this is ridiculous. | ||
| We're in the middle of this emergency special report about, presumably, about the attack on Israel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex has decided to take time to interview an expert about Yuval Noah Harari. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Why? | ||
| What is the sense of this? | ||
| Well, because there's news about Israel. | ||
| So we gotta talk about, at the very least, Jewishness. | ||
| Well, see, that's what I was worried about, kind of, that this was gonna veer into deeply anti-Semitic territory. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| But, and I think what's more important here is that Alex is on some anti-gay shit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is that how it goes forward? | ||
| Because that's where I feel like this is going. | ||
| No, but he did seem to be particularly... | ||
| It was really fucking weird! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He hit that pretty hard. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And then he got rid of it, and then it hit it again. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which is wild. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not about any of this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But it is a foreshadowing of why this is the most frustrating fucking episode I've listened to in a very long time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But before we figure out why... | ||
| Alex has a position that he evokes about the conflict, and it, on the surface, appears to have some decent points in it. | ||
| Trump is blaming Iran. | ||
| Israel's blaming Iran. | ||
| Hamas is the main group that runs the government in the Gaza Strip. | ||
| There's millions of people there in the Gaza Strip. | ||
| It is a hellhole. | ||
| They routinely get bombed by the Israelis. | ||
| They bombed the Israelis back. | ||
| It's a 75-year war. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| It needs to be fixed. | ||
| But this is definitely not going to fix it. | ||
| And taking hostages and targeting civilians is not good. | ||
| But let's just be honest, and I'm not endorsing what they did. | ||
| I'm not endorsing the Israelis dropping 1,000 and 2,000-pound bombs on apartment buildings and killing women and children en masse. | ||
| So if you want to call Hamas or Hezbollah a terrorist, And I think targeting civilians is terrible. | ||
| Well, then, what is Israel doing? | ||
| What is Obama doing when he'd blow up a whole Arab Muslim wedding and kill 100-something people and say, well, we killed the one guy we wanted, so it's collateral damage. | ||
| So before we criticize Hamas or Hezbollah, we have to criticize our own government, and we have to criticize the Israeli government. | ||
| And I get war. | ||
| Look, my dad's dad flew over. | ||
| You know, Italian cities, that was mainly in his missions out of North Africa, bombing what they thought were German targets. | ||
| But they killed a lot of Italians, folks. | ||
| Let's get that straight. | ||
| So, I mean, I'm not here judging anybody in these wars. | ||
| War is a terrible thing. | ||
| So he did some things into Germany, too, but only a few missions. | ||
| So my grandfather flew around dropping bombs on German cities, okay? | ||
| And on Italian cities. | ||
| Mainly on the West Coast when the U.S. invasion went in there. | ||
| It was air cover. | ||
| My other grandfather didn't do many missions until his plane broke and he crash landed and almost got killed. | ||
| He was lucky. | ||
| He only did a few missions. | ||
| But the point is that he was a fighter pilot. | ||
| But the point is that that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| So I don't judge Jerry Jones, my grandfather, under orders, dropping 500-pound bombs on German houses. | ||
| But I'm just saying, don't call Hezbollah and them running into people's houses and shooting men, women, and children terrorists unless you're going to call what everybody else is doing. | ||
| And I'm not defending any of it. | ||
| I think it's terrible the Russians are shelling and the Ukrainians are shelling, and they're just indiscriminately. | ||
| But that's what war is, and that's why Sean Penn and the left and all of them are wrong. | ||
| We want to end war. | ||
| We want to stop war. | ||
| We want this to not go on anymore. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| and it's getting out of control, and it dehumanizes us. | ||
| So that's shocking kind of to hear on this show, I think, from Alex. | ||
| Because he's saying stuff that has a kernel of a good perspective in it. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| There is an element. | ||
| He's saying that if you're going to cast aspersions at groups like Hamas, you have to also realize the reality of what the conditions that Palestinians are living under due to the Israeli government. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That is a position you would not expect to hear from Alex. | ||
| I wasn't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The thing you have to understand is that this is all talk. | ||
| And you can tell, by the way, he tries to connect things to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| Alex will say many decent-sounding things about opposing war and how both sides in a conflict will act in ways that are bad for the average civilian, and you can agree with that. | ||
| But, if you pay attention, he has a habit of siding with the group that did the invading, or the side that has a disproportionate amount of power. | ||
| He speaks seemingly sensibly about wanting to see an end to war, but the conditions that are required for that war to end, in his estimation, usually involve a capitulation of one side. | ||
| The Ukraine war needs to end, and the way that it ends is they stop fighting back against Putin's invasion. | ||
| Bend and become subservient to the power that Alex supports, or you're needlessly sustaining war. | ||
| This case isn't too much different. | ||
| There's good lip service in some places throughout that clip, but Alex doesn't actually believe that the Israeli government's oppression of the Palestinian people is as morally condemnable as a Hamas attack. | ||
| That's absurd if you know anything about Alex's position and the way he's carried himself. | ||
| But you hear that and it's like, hmm, what's going on here? | ||
| I mean, it is again so much like whatever he says means nothing, especially about war. | ||
| Because they're acting as though war exists as contextless. | ||
| The society that Alex seeks to create designs itself for war. | ||
| An unequal society dominated by one group is going to lead to a war whenever the other group goes, I can't do this shit anymore. | ||
| We have our, us killing you and dying is less... | ||
| I mean, it's basically the same as us starving to death, so fuck it. | ||
| Maybe at the end of this, we'll eat. | ||
| These are the things that the world that Alex supports and believes in, they are constantly in favor of. | ||
| Yeah, that's what they create, so they create war. | ||
| Right, and you see his world, the John Birch Society folks, and the entire tradition that he comes from, were very big fans of apartheid. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And Alex has constantly said, Apartheid maybe is better. | ||
| Over and over and over again. | ||
| He believes in worldviews that are willing to create apartheid states that will precipitate violence. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it is a feature and not a bug because the violence itself makes people desire the apartheid state more. | ||
| It is a self-fueling thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has that guest on. | ||
| He has that expert on Yuval Noah Harari. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I can't say this any other way than I almost threw something across the room. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This made me so mad. | ||
| But the real war is cutting off our energy, our fertilizer, our food, and it's killing already tens of millions of people extra a year. | ||
| So let's talk about the real war that isn't with guns and bullets coming up with Kent Heaven Lively, and we're going to talk about this book that is so timely. | ||
| We were still writing this just three weeks ago. | ||
| It's 400 pages long. | ||
| It just went to print. | ||
| Our warehouse is now full of these books. | ||
| This is an infomercial for Alex's book that ends up happening. | ||
| The expert guest that he has on Yuval Noah Harari is the ghost writer of his previous book, Kent Hicken-Lively, and the guy who is now credited as a co-writer on his second book, probably because he wanted to... | ||
| Get a little more money because Alex fucked him out of it on the first one. | ||
| I would assume. | ||
| I would assume that that is the case because his name is almost nowhere on the first book. | ||
| You have to go deep to the back to find his involvement as the actual writer of the Great Reset book that Alex wrote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ghost writers tend to take a flat fee up front and they do not receive royalties on the back end. | ||
| And that might have been inconvenient for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Usually, if it sells pretty well, you want those back end pieces. | ||
| So you can kind of see why this is real infuriating. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Boy, howdy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Kent, just as a little bit of a background about him, he's somebody who has written a bunch of anti-vax books over the years. | ||
| He wrote a book called Inoculated, How Science Lost Its Soul to Autism. | ||
| He's a frequent collaborator with Judy Mikovits, who is the person who put out Plandemic and had just a flood of COVID-19 misinformation. | ||
| So he's deeply involved in that. | ||
| So, one thing that's interesting is that he literally branded himself the, quote, world's number one anti-vaxxer. | ||
| So that's kind of, you know... | ||
| Is there a competition? | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, you kind of... | ||
| When you're in a position like him, you like to pretend you're just asking questions and all that. | ||
| But when you have a shirt that says, number one anti-vaxxer, it's kind of... | ||
| Usain Bolt wasn't just running from time to time. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He was into it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he also has a blog that he founded called The Age of Autism, which is just a giant anti-vax blog. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| He's a real piece of shit, and yeah, he wrote Alex's first book very clearly. | ||
| It's one of the things that you learn when you go through it page by page, like I've been doing, is it makes no sense if Alex wrote it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's ridiculous, the kind of stuff that you find in it, that Alex would never say that. | ||
| This doesn't make sense. | ||
| Because Kent Hicken Lively wrote it. | ||
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Right. | |
| And Alex also called him Hillen Lively or Heather Lively. | ||
| Hey, you know. | ||
| He doesn't even know his own co-author's name. | ||
| Why would you bother? | ||
| So now here's why this makes me furious, is that Alex presented this as, I got up at five in the morning, I called the staff in to do this. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And the only real explanation you can come up with is that... | ||
| He knew that this would be something that would get a lot of attention, get a lot of eyes here, and so he's going to make the most out of it, exploiting the situation in Israel and Gaza by doing an infomercial for his book. | ||
| There's no other explanation for it. | ||
| Well, there's one other one, but it's sort of partially involved in this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll get to that in a little bit. | ||
| I was just shocked that he even went through with this. | ||
| All right, it's 1.24 Central Time, Emergency Saturday. | ||
| October 7th, Transmission. | ||
| Kent Heckenleimely is an amazing author and researcher and helped me do the book, The Great Reset, and now the new book, The Great Awakening, Defeating the Globalist and Launching the Next Great Renaissance. | ||
| It's on pre-order. | ||
| It's in our warehouse and starts shipping on the 20th. | ||
| You can order it at Amazon.com to send us number one or get signed copies as a fundraiser to keep us on air at InfoWars4.com and we need your support. | ||
| We have unsigned copies there as well. | ||
| All right, Kent. | ||
| Wow, what a day to get you on. | ||
| You were supposed to be on an hour ago, but I had to get more crew in here to do research and prepare for this. | ||
| I was going to tape a show that we were going to air with you on Monday, but wow, this is all going on and unfolding the situation in Israel. | ||
| So yeah, maybe... | ||
| So not only did he not... | ||
| We've been there. | ||
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Sure. | |
| We didn't pre-record a fucking infomercial during a fake emergency broadcast about atrocities going on in the Middle East. | ||
| Yeah, I really find that to be a new low of tastelessness. | ||
| I couldn't even have imagined that concept. | ||
| Neither could I. And to me, the situation that I was in was when I heard this news, obviously I was horrified for the people involved. | ||
| The innocent civilians who were... | ||
| We're going to die, have died, or are going to suffer because of this. | ||
| It's horrifying and awful. | ||
| My second thought a little bit later was, I do not want to hear what Alex has to say about this. | ||
| I am dreading what this is going to be. | ||
| And when I got to listening to this episode, I could never have imagined that the second half of it, a full half of it, Would be an infomercial for his book. | ||
| I found it to be one of the most distasteful... | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Wait, half? | ||
| Do you mean that after he introduces that we have no more non-infomercial related... | ||
| Not really. | ||
| That is unimaginable. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean, truly, truly, we have chronicled disgusting behavior through this man, through any number of different people. | ||
| We live in a world of disgusting behavior, and somehow that is unimaginable for me. | ||
| Here's what you do if you're Alex. | ||
| You do the hour special report or whatever, going over your thoughts about how this is secretly Hezbollah and what have you. | ||
| You do that. | ||
| You go off air. | ||
| You pre-record this. | ||
| And then you put it out on Monday. | ||
| You don't continue doing this as your live show because you know that eyes are on your product because of deeply traumatic and scary news that's coming out about geopolitics. | ||
| News that you're exacerbating by insisting everyone's about to get nuked. | ||
| This is degrading behavior. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you see a man look at an atrocity and think, I can make a little scratch off that. | ||
| I mean, that's the most generous. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That is the nicest way of looking at it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The other one is seeing this and being perfect. | ||
| Oh, thank God. | ||
| This will be an advertising campaign. | ||
| I have been waiting for this massive, disgusting atrocity. | ||
| Our numbers were low, and thankfully this will drive some traffic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Anyway, fuck Kent. | ||
| In these times which I know people are scared, What I would say to the Infowars audiences is ask yourself, what's the bravest thing you can do today? | ||
| If you say buy a goddamn book, I will murder myself. | ||
| I think it's to get your new book, The Great Awakening. | ||
| Goddammit! | ||
| The Great Awakening. | ||
| Yeah, that's the bravest thing you can do. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
| Is order our new book. | ||
| I fucking knew that was going to be the bravest thing you could do. | ||
| It's so disgusting. | ||
| I knew the bravest thing you could do would be order a book. | ||
| I just knew it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I knew it in my soul. | ||
| The bravest thing you can do is do the thing that profits me directly. | ||
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See? | |
| That is imaginable. | ||
| Somehow getting to this point. | ||
| Unimaginable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Once you're there, all bets are off. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| Obviously. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| How do you go lower? | ||
| You can't? | ||
| No. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| The people of the planet, they want you. | ||
| Nobody wants you to give aid. | ||
| They want you to buy Alex's book! | ||
| Fine, I can imagine that now. | ||
| You have opened the door. | ||
| Yeah, there is no bottom. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely not. | ||
| It's disgusting, the exploitative nature of this. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And so Kent is... | ||
| They like to present this in a way that's like he's a fact-checker. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| And he is not. | ||
| No. | ||
| He very clearly wrote the first book, at least. | ||
| Well, he's the world's number one anti-vaxxer. | ||
| I haven't read the second book, because it's not out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I would assume he wrote that, too. | ||
| Because Alex can't do this. | ||
| He can't write. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not because of any deficiency that he has. | ||
| He's too lazy. | ||
| He's too angry. | ||
| He gets distracted by everything. | ||
| He's drunk all the time. | ||
| So there's just no way he could marshal the resources he would need personally to write a book. | ||
| So anyway, they like to present him as a fact checker. | ||
| And one of the things that I find very interesting is that he checked all of Alex's claims. | ||
| And man, they're almost all right. | ||
| Wait, how does almost? | ||
| I made a lot of crazy claims to you, and you said 99% of them you could actually find were actually accurate, and then the few times I had just kind of twisted something or flipped it and got it backwards, then we were able to find out what I was actually saying. | ||
| What was the process like of the book, and let's talk about what's in it. | ||
| Yeah, so what was great, and I really want your audience to know this, I never found you telling me a single thing. | ||
| Kind of went along with that. | ||
| Kind of went along with that. | ||
| You know, there was something that I didn't trust about the source. | ||
| But I was really clear that you had heard it. | ||
| And, you know, when people ask me, what's it like writing for Alex Jones? | ||
| I say, the man has an incredible memory, recall, you know, I'll say something like... | ||
| Well, gee, you know, really get me this David Rockefeller-China relationship. | ||
| And you'll go, well, Kent, you know, go to the New York Times, 1973, you know, January. | ||
| And suddenly I type it in and I find, you know, David Rockefeller talking about what a wonderful place China is, even though they just went through the Cultural Revolution where they killed millions. | ||
| And so it was really what was... | ||
| Well, he endorsed Mao Zedong and said, we need to be like this, yeah. | ||
| Wow, it's amazing that Daleks just threw in a lie there at the end while his fact-checker is talking about how great and true all of his stuff is. | ||
| Now, the reality is... | ||
| I think that the fact-checking process works almost exactly like what we just saw. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex makes some claim, like, David Rockefeller said we should all be like Mao. | ||
| And then Kent looks around and he's like, oh my god, this op-ed does exist. | ||
| Now, it doesn't say what Alex said it says, but it does exist. | ||
| Holy shit, he's right! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck you, Kent. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You're the worst. | ||
| The language that Kent uses gives it away. | ||
| A little. | ||
| Entirely. | ||
| Just, like, refusing to be, like, kinda... | ||
| Every qualifier that you use takes points away from whether or not you believe what you're saying. | ||
| I have a deep-seated feeling that if I just fully endorse what you're saying, I'll look really dumb. | ||
| It's a bad idea for me to say you are right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's a good idea for me to be diplomatic in saying that you... | ||
| Point correctly to the books on shelves! | ||
| Mostly? | ||
| Kinda, sorta. | ||
| Yeah, and I gotta be diplomatic because Judy Mikovits isn't selling books anymore. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And I need to get some of the... | ||
| I got a better deal from Alex for the sequel. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So let's be real diplomatic and fun about this. | ||
| This is a fucking infomercial. | ||
| God. | ||
| Let's talk about what's in these chapters because, folks, when I tell you I'm proud of this book... | ||
| This is an incredible book, plus it keeps us on air with your support. | ||
| So do you want to walk through the chapters with people, maybe? | ||
| You know, you've got all the copies of the book, and I don't have them yet. | ||
| So pull out a chapter you like. | ||
| So we're going to go chapter by chapter? | ||
| Did you hire... | ||
| We're a ghostwriter? | ||
| Well, he just didn't get a copy of it. | ||
| Well, I mean, now that he's on the book, he's got the royalties on the back end. | ||
| He can afford to get a ghostwriter to pay a flat fee up front. | ||
| Ooh, that'd be nice. | ||
| Yeah, we could fucking rush Matryoshka doll this all the way to book number 10. Yeah? | ||
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| I mean, it's diminishing returns because you've got to keep paying out people. | ||
| Yeah, there is that. | ||
| But, yeah, I mean, if you want to really farm out the work, it's... | ||
| You can put them out much quicker. | ||
| Laziness is contagious. | ||
| So one of the things that Kent really appreciates about Alex is that he's so researched. | ||
| And people just need to actually listen to him. | ||
| That's what I really come away appreciating about you is all your broadcasts are informed by an extensive amount of reading of these documents that these... | ||
| Evil globalists have put out. | ||
| And so, you know, I really encourage people, take a look at what Alex is saying, because it's based on his own deep research. | ||
| And that's why, really, it was so great to work with you, because I could always trust that I would find what you told me to go looking for. | ||
| And that's just chapter one. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| So he encourages people to look at what Alex is saying. | ||
| I have, Kent. | ||
| I have risen to your challenge, and I find you to be full of shit. | ||
| I think Kent... | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| I actually think Kent agrees with you. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Kent is very much... | ||
| I don't actually think so. | ||
| He's the world's number one anti-vaccine. | ||
| I will say, the way that he was saying that very much suggests, like... | ||
| The more I looked into what Alex said, the more I stopped looking into what Alex said. | ||
| The more I realized he was deeply researched. | ||
| Yeah, it's a really smart move for me to say he is deeply researched and for me not to research. | ||
| The more I looked into the things he was saying, the more I realized that he has an essential inability to grasp what things say on the page. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He has a reading comprehension problem, but a great imagination. | ||
| It does seem like that's the... | ||
| Yeah, I would say so. | ||
| So, like, legit. | ||
| They're going chapter by chapter. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| We're not. | ||
| And now we've only gotten to the second chapter. | ||
| We're taping this on Saturday with this giant war that's erupted in Israel. | ||
| But this is, like you said, the million-foot view, the 35,000-foot view to understand what's going on. | ||
| So let's go to Chapter 3. You are being modified against your will. | ||
| And then we talk about and to what end, that the modification, the transhumanism, is happening now. | ||
| And we're only up to... | ||
| Page 50 at this point. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Your mouth is just jaw open. | ||
| Somehow this is back to unimaginable again. | ||
| What the fuck just happened? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That is insane! | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Well, there's more insane people. | ||
| Let me walk you through my experience of listening to this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because I didn't watch this live. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I listened to it after the fact. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And my experience of it was when it launched into an infomercial, I thought, I could never have seen that coming in a million years. | ||
| Never in a million years. | ||
| I think the worst of Alex. | ||
| I think very little of him. | ||
| I think he's capable of almost anything that's crass and self-promoting. | ||
| And yet, I could not have imagined that. | ||
| As it went along, much like you, I started to feel like, yeah, I can imagine the things that they're doing within this context. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then I thought to myself, there's an hour left. | ||
| There's not going to be all this. | ||
| And it is. | ||
| It just never stops being about the book. | ||
| Even when he throws in, we're recording this when there's this big war. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| It's unimaginable again. | ||
| I don't know how this happened. | ||
| Well, it's that rake theory of comedy. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean... | ||
| It is a function. | ||
| It's one of the things that I like about myself is that I have a very vivid imagination that can go all kinds of places. | ||
| Somehow, I mean, and almost it reflects positively on me because it would not have ever occurred to me were I to imagine evil that this is something that evil could do, you know? | ||
| It is truly like, wow, I genuinely thought... | ||
| Because to me, everybody who says people aren't people. | ||
| This people is different. | ||
| We're all one people. | ||
| This guy makes me feel like we're not all one people, man! | ||
| It's definitely a weird sort of person. | ||
| If you're even just kind of a shitty... | ||
| Thoughtless, almost materialist business person in Alex's position. | ||
| I really sincerely think that, okay, we had planned and scheduled that we were going to do this infomercial about the book that was going to air on Monday. | ||
| I don't have any other time that I can do this. | ||
| But man, this is shitty. | ||
| This would look really bad for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think the best thing to do would be, we'll record it another time. | ||
| We can have Harrison Smith sit in on Monday. | ||
| You can fill the time with whatever the fuck. | ||
| This seems to me like it would be such a... | ||
| Disqualifying decision to make that I would avoid it, but apparently it's not. | ||
| Yeah, I was trying to think, like, I'm trying to compare it to, like, whenever you see the CEOs who think that they're very objective, you know, like, in order to get down inflation, we need to make sure that the labor market has a higher unemployment rate. | ||
| That's where, you know, like, doing that whole thing where they're like, what you're literally saying is that you want more people to starve so you can control their labor. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Or, like, when people wanted more people to have COVID. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. | ||
| Like, that kind of... | ||
| You're being callous and stupid. | ||
| But in your mind, you're not doing this out of like... | ||
| You believe it's in pursuit of a higher goal. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And in this, it's so petty. | ||
| It's so disgusting. | ||
| And it is... | ||
| It is... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's almost pure in a way. | ||
| This is almost pure evil. | ||
| You know what just dawned on me? | ||
| There's a decent chance that Alex gave Kent a better deal because he knows that his money is being monitored. | ||
| I bet it's not even out of generosity for his co-writer. | ||
| He's probably getting kickbacks from his co-writer. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Yeah, there's a crass explanation for even that. | ||
| I mean, it is, we are reaching... | ||
| I'm in bankruptcy, Kent, so you're a co-writer. | ||
| We are reaching that kind of, like, hipster level of purity, you know, where you're like, oh, wow, you're just not going to get this concentration anywhere else. | ||
| No. | ||
| You're just not. | ||
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This is, this is, we got to cut this with something. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| Unfortunately, we cannot, because this is all about his book. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I like the human process, see, and we can decide. | ||
| Humans are the only animal that builds its, controls its own environment. | ||
| Because we're not an animal. | ||
| We're made in the image of God. | ||
| What about beavers? | ||
| Look what we envisioned 1,000 years ago or 200 years ago we built. | ||
| I mean, birds build nests. | ||
| They want us to decide that, oh, you're overpopulated, you're bad. | ||
| Turn off your life forces, roll over to die. | ||
| No, we're not going to do it, Kent. | ||
| And so that's why the book is so important. | ||
| I want to challenge viewers and listeners. | ||
| For the bare minimum, it keeps us on air. | ||
| And it funds the operation. | ||
| It's a historical book. | ||
| It's something you're not supposed to have. | ||
| It's something the censors don't want you to have. | ||
| And the other book was great and was the number one bestseller. | ||
| This, ladies and gentlemen, is light years better than The Great Reset and The War of the World. | ||
| It is The Great Awakening. | ||
| It's not just detailing the enemy operations. | ||
| It's detailing how to defeat them. | ||
| So I have a little four or five minute promo video that I shot last week that kind of breaks this down. | ||
| And let's race through the other, I think there's 10 or 11 more chapters we haven't talked about. | ||
| And you're only skimming the surface here. | ||
| I mean, this is... | ||
| This is deep, hardcore research, but it's not giving you a headache like academics. | ||
| We give our view. | ||
| We show their statement. | ||
| We show where they said it. | ||
| We tie it together with the next chapter and back to the last chapter. | ||
| And I thought the book was great. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I think the book's great. | ||
| Didn't read it. | ||
| Didn't write it. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I think it's great. | ||
| I think I'm going to make some money. | ||
| I think I love this book. | ||
| This is the best book we've ever had. | ||
| I haven't read it. | ||
| I haven't written it. | ||
| But, I mean, look. | ||
| Some money. | ||
| So it's great. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| We're going to go through these 11 chapters. | ||
| I'm going to play this five-minute promo piece that I recorded. | ||
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This is just disgusting. | |
| I mean... | ||
| Also, the world's going to get nuked. | ||
| Also, Hezbollah is invading all your U.S. cities, and they're going to have sleeper cells that are going to launch attacks on you. | ||
| But here, watch this five-minute piece about the bravest thing you can do is buy my book. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Is there, like, okay, let's say this is a simulation, like 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex is the only person who knows for a fact it's a simulation, and there will be no lasting consequences for any behavior. | ||
| At the end of this life, he'll just clean slate, restart, you know, he'll get a new character, and he'll just keep on going. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But this is the character that he's chosen to be just as awful as he can be. | ||
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Even then, I couldn't imagine a playthrough. | |
| I can't play through an RPG where you get to be the evil guy, and I can't not feel bad whenever I'm like, well, I want to see what they do. | ||
| I find that, for me, it's unsatisfying to play a negative, evil character. | ||
| I hate it! | ||
| Unless there's some sort of way that you... | ||
| You can roleplay a, like, redemption. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Some sort of a redemption. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, if it were a simulation, I think playing the role of Alex would suck a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would suck. | ||
| I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is nuts. | ||
| I get that that's one of the ways that you could conceive of, like, ethically wiggling around this. | ||
| I'm just trying to, no, I mean, I'm trying to find a space. | ||
| How would one ethically justify acting like this? | ||
| Yeah, or not even ethically, just, I mean. | ||
| To just be in a larger sense of, like, meaninglessness, you know? | ||
| Like, not only is this... | ||
| This is 100% not ethical, but because it's in a controlled environment where there will be no consequences... | ||
| Then I can indulge in this behavior. | ||
| It's solipsistic. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Nothing exists except for me. | ||
| Like, it is very much, it really does feel like this is true solipsism. | ||
| In a way that we've always been like, oh, he's a narcissistic psychopath. | ||
| But if you truly believed that you're the only person on this planet. | ||
| That matters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kent doesn't matter. | ||
| Kent's a prop. | ||
| Kent's nothing. | ||
| Kent is meaningless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex isn't going to be around on Monday. | ||
| As we've established. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he's not going on vacation. | ||
| Don't you dare say he's going on vacation. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, it is The Great Awakening. | ||
| Here's a little breakdown of it. | ||
| We're going to come back, finish up talking about the book, and hit some of the other news that's unfolding. | ||
| It doesn't hit the other news. | ||
| There's some big surprises coming up next week, and you're watching this live on Saturday. | ||
| We're going to air this for big parts of it for an hour on Monday. | ||
| I won't be in studio, and it's not because I'm on vacation. | ||
| When people think I'm on vacation, I'm not on vacation. | ||
| My wife and daughter might be with me when I go on the road and they're off at the museum or the planetarium or the aquarium or at the beach if we're by the beach. | ||
| I'm not doing that, folks, other than maybe an hour a day with them. | ||
| I'm behind the scenes doing a lot. | ||
| It's kind of like Fight Club. | ||
| And I don't want to... | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| It's cooler than Fight Club because we're not communist blowing up Wall Street. | ||
| But it's the real Fight Club. | ||
| And let's just say this. | ||
| My work off-air is just as important as the on-air work. | ||
| I've really reached, by the grace of God, the Lord works mysterious ways, a point now where, and the enemy knows this, they've got our phones tapped and stuff, but the public hasn't quite figured it out yet. | ||
| And I don't deserve this, but I'm now recognized as kind of the Tyler Durgan behind the scenes with some of the biggest names out there. | ||
| And a lot of that's going to start coming out because we're not launching Operation Chaos. | ||
| We're launching Operation Renaissance, Operation Great Awakening. | ||
| And because of all this, I've convinced a lot of people that now know I'm right to listen to me about how to challenge this and how to fight this. | ||
| So all glory goes to God, spiritually, temporarily, to the audience, the crew, and everybody else. | ||
| If they kill me, I didn't commit suicide like Matt Gaetz just said. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, yeah, Alex is the Tyler Durgan of shitheads, basically. | ||
| He's convinced a bunch of weak-minded folks to go along with him. | ||
| I'm guessing, you know, you're probably talking about a Tucker, probably talking about a Joe Rogan. | ||
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| Maybe. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Although, apparently, someone was talking shit about Alex on his show recently. | ||
| I don't know what that's about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Talking about a... | ||
| I think Alex would have to be meatloaf. | ||
| In this and not the Tyler Durgan. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think with enough time and distance, I think we can recognize that Tyler Durgan wasn't a great person in that book. | ||
| He wasn't real, first of all. | ||
| There was that issue. | ||
| He was a sociopath. | ||
| There was that. | ||
| But it almost destroys Edward Norton's life. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Leads him down some very bad paths. | ||
| And he has to shoot himself in the face in order to be rid of him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| On the other hand, I wouldn't have blown up that Wall Street if he hadn't. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Free everyone from credit card debt. | ||
| Tyler Durgan will help you out in some ways. | ||
| Never liked Polanyiuk. | ||
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| Never liked him. | ||
| You're not missing much. | ||
| No, I read a bunch of it. | ||
| Never liked it. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, then you went the way wrong direction. | ||
| I was at the right age when, you know, like Choke and a lot of that stuff was coming out. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There was kind of like an edginess to it. | ||
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| I always just thought like, this is grotesque for the sake of being grotesque. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't like any of this. | ||
| Yeah, I, you know. | ||
| And I just like Tyler Durgan. | ||
| I definitely wasn't going to be telling people, like, oh, I was reading Lady Chatterley's Lover while you were reading Fight Club. | ||
| Like, I'm not going to go that far. | ||
| I think that Alex is going on vacation. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Based on what he's saying. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, you know, he went to Hawaii. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| If he goes to London and starts talking to the people, changing the guard, I'm going to be so mad. | ||
| Oh, no, he's not going to go back to that well. | ||
| I mean, when he went to Hawaii, he pretended he was getting info on Zuckerberg's compound. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| His off-air work is the great... | ||
| Facade that he can pretend is going on that justifies how little is actually going on on air. | ||
| His off-air work is Brewster's millions. | ||
| He's trying to spend every penny that he's got. | ||
| I would say that there's a fairness to that. | ||
| Based on everything I can tell. | ||
| Based on the complaints that have been made to the bankruptcy court. | ||
| I'm asking for a raise. | ||
| All of this shit. | ||
| He's trying to make sure that no one else gets to enjoy that money but him. | ||
| And that is hard work. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| I suppose if you're committed to it, yeah, there's work there. | ||
| So we have one last clip here. | ||
| It's not about the book, right? | ||
| It is. | ||
| But it's also about Alex wanting to get the web address Fortress of Joy. | ||
| He wants that URL. | ||
| And then the rest of my day, I'm doing all the things that bring me joy and contentment. | ||
| And so... | ||
| So I feel like those three or four hours that I'm attacking the dragon, attacking the devil, I am a fearless warrior during that time. | ||
| But I have to secure my fortress of joy constantly to make sure that I'm a good warrior. | ||
| Hey, I'm going to ask listeners, don't do this. | ||
| Hey, Kent, or Wes, will you go get your own name or whatever? | ||
| Will you get Fortress of Joy? | ||
| I'll pay it back right now. | ||
| Dot news or dot com? | ||
| I don't know if that's been written yet. | ||
| I thought we should Google it. | ||
| It's probably some horrible sex site. | ||
| One time I was on air trying to type in Jeunesse Yes because I had this sponsor on and the crew didn't have it. | ||
| I pulled up something and bullied everyone. | ||
| Who knows what Fortress of Joy is? | ||
| I've never heard that term. | ||
| That's what we need to form is a Fortress of Joy against their evil because it's a saying and many of us said it so no one knows who said it first. | ||
| But you don't fight because you hate the people in front of you. | ||
| You fight because you love the people behind you. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| We have a fortress of joy. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| Yeah, and if they can steal our joy, if when we appear in front of the public, we're scowling, we're angry, we're not convincing them to join us. | ||
| And that's why you mentioned that the book was fun to read. | ||
| I love mocking stupid people. | ||
| And I love mocking stupid plans. | ||
| And it's fun. | ||
| And our movement is fun. | ||
| Connecting to God is joyful. | ||
| Connecting to others is joyful. | ||
| I say to those people who are living the liberal nightmare, I understand how miserable you are. | ||
| What I'm asking you. | ||
| Is to come over to the joyful side of life. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So I'm not attacking them. | ||
| I want to rescue them from their unhappiness. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| I'm just searching Fortress of Joy to make sure it's on a porn site. | ||
| Gotta do that. | ||
| I'm not listening. | ||
| Fortress of Joy Church. | ||
| That's something in California. | ||
| We gotta get it right now. | ||
| Burn that church down. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| I said the title. | ||
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It's fine. | |
| We don't get it. | ||
| But absolutely. | ||
| So you just came up with that term. | ||
| That's a great term. | ||
| He didn't. | ||
| Hey, that's why you pay me the big bucks. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| The big bucks. | ||
| You know, Dan, I was just thinking. | ||
| You pay me the big bucks so you can siphon that money back to yourself. | ||
| I was just thinking, what is best in life? | ||
| You know, to crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the women. | ||
| And that is why I want you to come over to the site of joy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Tower of Joy, that's from Game of Thrones, right? | ||
| Is it? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I don't remember Game of Thrones that much. | ||
| That was where Jon Snow was born. | ||
| Oh, the Tower of Greyjoy. | ||
| No. | ||
| Greyjoy is just the name of the... | ||
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Greyjoy is the guy. | |
| Theon. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Stray memories of Game of Thrones past. | ||
| Can never handle it. | ||
| So bring it on, prick. | ||
| Quite frankly, I would say we have 850 episodes for you to make fun of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Suspicious. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Suspicious if you love this so much. | ||
| Here we are, and living a joyless existence of going on a sold-out tour of the UK and having a great time meeting people. | ||
| Well, we didn't sleep well. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I think, I mean, what's fun about that is that it does reveal so much, you know, that I have fun making fun of stupid plans. | ||
| I have fun making fun of stupid people, which is like, yes, it totally makes sense why you have to make up the people and the plan. | ||
| You can't talk to me. | ||
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Well... | |
| It would be a bad idea. | ||
| It's a bad idea. | ||
| It would be a bad plan. | ||
| So make up your own plan. | ||
| Make up your own people, and then you can call them stupid all day. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's brilliant. | ||
| And when this full-on review of Kent Hicken Lively's ghost-written book that Alex put out is out, I wonder if we'll be mocked roundly for it. | ||
| Well, I think he'll be trapped in his Fortress of Joy. | ||
| I would suggest he stay in that Fortress of Joy as opposed to fighting this dragon. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| We're not invited. | ||
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| We're not invited to that Fortress of Joy. | ||
| I would suspect that his version of Joy is something counter to my version of Joy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, this, I feel like on the one level, you know, we're talking about the unimaginability of Alex doing an hour-long infomercial for his book. | ||
| In the context of something that he's gaining attention for and drawing people to based on exploitation of feelings surrounding the situation in Israel and Gaza. | ||
| And I think we've covered that territory pretty well. | ||
| I don't think we can cover it enough! | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And in the impossibleness of that task, I think we've done okay. | ||
| But let's zoom the camera out a tiny bit more. | ||
| If I'm Kent Hicken Lively, I cancel. | ||
| I'm not going to be a part of this. | ||
| How do you agree to go along with a chapter-by-chapter breakdown knowing that what's going on is Alex is exploiting the day's events in the world in order to bring attention to and hopefully move a few more books? | ||
| I can't imagine being okay with that. | ||
| Now, the strange part about that, that is totally imaginable to me, simply because... | ||
| Clearly, Hickenlooper is a Renfield. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| I mean, look at the way that he walks in with his chipper attitude. | ||
| Sure, Alex, I'll do evil with you. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| The bravest thing you can do in the face of... | ||
| Yeah, this is Renfield shit. | ||
| He eats bugs. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I just, I find it disgusting on all accounts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is, like, if you were willing to do that, then Alex could ask you to do anything, and you'd be like, yeah, fine. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I would assume so. | ||
| At least as it relates to, like, your own profit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the two of you, your collaborative profit. | ||
| If Alex asked you to eat shit, you'd do it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I find these people to be repulsive. | ||
| I think it's really difficult to take in. | ||
| I think it's terrible to take that stuff in. | ||
| And on some level, it is less terrible to hear this content because it's mockable. | ||
| and it's something that relates to alex's personality and his psychology in a way that there's a distance there and i think that that is more palatable in some ways but is actually way way worse yeah than many of the things that he could well that's not true he could cause more damage talking about other things but this this is a more damning Yeah, I mean, I feel like this, what's fascinating about this to me... | ||
| I feel like this is a fully non-partisan situation. | ||
| Like, if you listen to Alex do this... | ||
| I mean, Alex's book? | ||
| No, no, I mean, like, the way he did this. | ||
| Like, it doesn't matter what you believe about conspiracy theories. | ||
| If you are a person... | ||
| Who has an idea of interacting with other human beings on the level. | ||
| And that one of our biggest problems is that we're just not on the level with each other anymore. | ||
| For you to listen to that and think, I still want to follow this man, you are lying to yourself. | ||
| At the very least, this behavior is something that would require an apology. | ||
| It would require Alex coming on air and taking stock of like, this was a big mistake. | ||
| I didn't think it through. | ||
| Or something like, I don't believe that that would be true were he to say it. | ||
| No. | ||
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But that would be the bare minimum. | |
| He seems to like to say bare minimum today. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That would be the bare minimum in terms of what I think would be acceptable as a way to move forward. | |
| Yeah, it really is like, oh man, it would not matter. | ||
| It would not matter. | ||
| If Maria Bamford, whom I adore and have loved for fucking 22 odd years now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| If she had suddenly done this shit, I'd be like, well, I mean, fuck. | ||
| That's that then. | ||
| Like, there's no going back after this. | ||
| And to the point, here is the name of this broadcast. | ||
| World War III emergency broadcast. | ||
| Attack on Israel will lead to wider war with Iran. | ||
| The subject matter of it is Hamas backed by Iranian Hezbollah has overrun southern Israel. | ||
| Israel is in a state of war and has promised to unleash hell. | ||
| That is what he's selling to the audience in terms of trying to draw them in. | ||
| And then there's no, oh, also, we're going to sell my book for half of this fucking show. | ||
| It's supposed to be, it's part of the, it's brokered programming. | ||
| Yeah, it may as well be. | ||
| It's disgusting, it's cynical, and... | ||
| It's dark. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is dark. | ||
| This better be a submission. | ||
| So, to reiterate, obviously our hearts go out to the people in Israel and the Palestinian people who are suffering for the machinations of powerful people who exploit that power at their expense. | ||
| It's tragic and awful. | ||
| Terrorist acts. | ||
| Are condemnable wholly, and they do not take away from the fact that the Palestinian people deserve rights and freedom. | ||
| And that's that, I guess. | ||
| And Alex sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I just... | ||
| I suppose the... | ||
| You know. | ||
| If we had a good... | ||
| If we had reacted right... | ||
| After 9-11, we would have immediately overthrown the government in the United States and been like, at the very least, we're not fighting a war. | ||
| But that's not to be. | ||
| That's just not how human beings work, I guess. | ||
| The responses to things often end up having such calamitous consequences that are unnecessary, and they hurt. | ||
| Average people, individuals, innocent civilians, and that's not the path forward. | ||
| Yeah, and the other thing that I keep thinking about, and this is another thing, is we've got to understand that you cannot own land. | ||
| Well, that's a broader conversation, and I mean... | ||
| You know what I'm saying, though? | ||
| In some ways, I agree with you. | ||
| In the same way, I feel like you shouldn't be able to own water. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But maybe that's for another time. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back for another episode, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we are also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| Oh, you know what? | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |
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