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Aug. 21, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#840: August 18, 2023

#840: August 18, 2023—Alex Jones warns of a "globalist" COVID comeback, predicting TSA mask mandates by October and full lockdowns by early 2024, tied to a Canadian variant and vaccine-linked myocarditis. He frames it as civil disobedience but lacks substance, just pushing Infowars links while ignoring real advocacy like contacting Congress. Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes expose his fear-mongering as clickbait, benefiting billionaires over public health, with no credible evidence beyond cherry-picked claims. His "whistleblowers" and election meddling theories reveal a pattern of profit-driven panic detached from reality. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
infowars 15:44
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dan friesen
30:30
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jordan holmes
18:08
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unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Riddler.
Andy and Pansy.
unidentified
Andy and Pandy.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin caller.
Saying I love your room.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is we are puppy sitting this week.
dan friesen
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we are taking care of a six-month-old, sunny, beautiful little Westy girl, just cute as a button, already causing non-stop chaos around the house.
Just got her a few hours ago, and it's been a nightmare.
dan friesen
Three dogs is quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and one of them's a puppy.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
It's a lot of energy.
jordan holmes
Not potty trained either.
It's brutal.
It is brutal.
dan friesen
A lot of stuff on the floor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
A lot of waste.
And Jake doesn't understand, so he's trying to pee on her face all the time.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's brutal.
Yeah.
Fanny's grumpy.
She's angry.
She doesn't like small things.
dan friesen
I think we got a sitcom in the work.
jordan holmes
I think so.
Three generations.
dan friesen
One dog, not potty trained.
One dog.
Face peer.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So the dog grumpy.
Characteristics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe those are the fates.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I remember that for playing Hades.
jordan holmes
The maiden, the crone, and the yeah, yeah, yeah.
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's fun.
How long do you have this dog?
jordan holmes
We got her for a week.
dan friesen
Okay.
Yeah.
So a couple more days, I'm guessing.
No, we need to just start.
jordan holmes
We just started this movie.
Ooh, yeah, which means it's during the work week.
So it's all me, baby.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is.
dan friesen
You are dog six.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh, it's good times.
You'll learn from it.
You'll grow.
jordan holmes
I will grow.
All right.
In terms of growth, speaking of growing, what's your price book?
dan friesen
Mine is I started playing a game called Remnant 2.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
We were talking about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I told you that it is enjoyable, and it is enjoyable.
I don't usually like shooters all that much, but I think I might be wrong because I really did enjoy Far Cry 6, and that's another shooter.
Right.
I think I like this a little better because it's a third person, which is better for me.
I get a little disoriented by first-person things.
I get scared of what could be behind me.
jordan holmes
It's very frustrating.
dan friesen
But yeah, I don't know.
I haven't gotten too far into it, but it's a fun game.
There's a bunch of items and stuff and different abilities that your character can have, which certainly tickles that spot in my brain.
Oh, of course.
I'm enjoying it.
jordan holmes
Do you just, was it like more like just Doom and those in the past?
Like you didn't like those shooters.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
It might be.
jordan holmes
Is it one of those things?
dan friesen
And it might be a holdover too.
Like, my parents hated violence in games.
Sure.
And so when we had games that we were allowed to play, they were things like Mario and Donkey Kong.
You can throw a barrel at somebody.
But then at the same time, I did play Mega Man, but that was against robots.
So somehow that's okay.
jordan holmes
Cartoon violence against robots will always be acceptable.
I don't know why, but it will.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I think growing up, it wasn't even an option.
Like those things were just not in the household.
Sure.
And so maybe I convinced myself I didn't actually like them at all.
But also, I don't really enjoy violence all that much.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no, totally.
dan friesen
Violence in games isn't something I am thrilled by.
I wouldn't want to play it if there were like humanoid things that I were.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But then again, Far Cry 6, you're fighting against, well, but it's an oppressive regime.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, listen, once you start dealing with complicated morality and then you add video game non-reality on top of it, you're never going to win.
You're never going to win.
dan friesen
I got a lot of thinking to do about exactly my relationship with shooting games.
But for now, this one is fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I enjoy that it allows me to have a dog that follows me around.
Got to have a dog.
And heals me.
jordan holmes
Why are there any video games without small little pets?
Companions.
Yeah.
That's how we should live.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
There is no reason that any game would be hurt by that.
jordan holmes
You cannot make a game worse by having a friendly companion.
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, 2K23.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, I guess a little mini horse falling down.
Yeah, little animal companion.
You can make it worse if it's a companion that talks.
That can be done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I'm immune to that because I just put on the subtitles.
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's the trick.
dan friesen
You know, listen to Alex Jones while I'm playing video games.
Yeah, that makes it better.
Any video game voiceover can't be worse than what I'm listening to already.
I know that.
jordan holmes
You hear that, Justin Royland?
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking about the 18th, August 18th, 2023.
Okay.
I don't know if you've been hearing the big news.
jordan holmes
No, is there big news?
dan friesen
There's been a lot of Alex over the weekend.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Well, you're not on X?
jordan holmes
That's the idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's been a bit of controversy or controversy.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Well, sort of.
Okay.
So it came out that Alex was being followed around on January 6th by one of the people who may be like a co-conspirator in the.
There was a whole hullabaloo of people posting things and I was getting tagged in a bunch of stuff that was making the point that Alex was more involved and like he had a foundational role to play in what happened on January 6th.
And I'm unconvinced.
I'm unswayed from my position that he would do exactly what he did if he knew about a plan or not.
And telling him about it or weaving him into the plan would only backfire.
So whatever the information that was being tossed around on Twitter or X.
Sure.
It was uncompelling to the point of me being like, Alex would have done that anyway.
He would have marched people around and screamed and stuff.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Following the trial, I find it impossible to believe that anyone would believe it is a good idea to include Alex in more information, not less.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Even if you're Alex, you probably want to know less.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
I mean, I've saw his lawyer.
We've seen the whole thing.
But it makes more sense, though, that there would be a collaborator there to follow Alex around and make sure that if he gets off the rails too far in any direction, you make one of them electric, you know, like that kind of thing.
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
He is also somebody who you don't need to loop in on plans.
I don't need to tell him shit.
He can be manipulated somewhat easily.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy, you see that green light over there?
Go for it.
dan friesen
Yeah, we hear.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's not off.
dan friesen
There's some fun over there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like if Tom Sawyer didn't even have to try to get that kid to paint the fence.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, you'll let me paint your fence for you?
unidentified
Shit!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that was a little bit annoying seeing some of that stuff because it's, I don't know.
I just, I tire of non-evidentiary things that speculate about him.
But then.
Big news on the 18th.
jordan holmes
Now there's even more big news.
dan friesen
Yes.
On Friday, Alex dropped the biggest news ever.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
We've got to find out.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
You're teasing me.
dan friesen
Well, humans are born to hype.
And so today we'll be going over this episode where the biggest news in the world has ever seen happens.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, fan club of the largest of the plaintiff's attorneys, Bill Ogden.
Bring your own gummies.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
B-Y-O-G.
jordan holmes
B-Y-O-G.
dan friesen
Next, I stop telling first dates that I like podcasts because explaining knowledge fight to them is apparently a turnoff.
Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Imagine explaining it to them as the host of it, as opposed to a fan.
Not great on this end either.
Nope.
Next, Karen, sorry for exposing you to Alex, but this is what happens when you agree to marry a wonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Nikolai A. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And look, Stefan, Zoe, and I are policy wonks.
Are you jealous?
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much, too.
Beneath the house of Rillier, Cthulhu lies pretty chill.
Just your plain old average West Coast surfer elder god.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go honky and mother telling you, brilliant.
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
So biggest news.
dan friesen
Such big news.
jordan holmes
The biggest.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
Yeah, he's been trending because of this.
jordan holmes
He's been trending.
dan friesen
On X. There's a look of sting in your face every time I call it X.
jordan holmes
I just, we can all just agree to not let billionaires take toys.
We can all just agree to it.
dan friesen
DMX's estate should sue.
jordan holmes
It takes walking away.
dan friesen
X is going to give it to you.
jordan holmes
Walking away, Dan.
dan friesen
X is going to give it to you, and that is a summons to appear in court.
That's what it is.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
Nope.
Don't want to talk about it.
I've been thinking about some DMX lyrics lately, but I don't want to talk about them because they're horrible.
Anyway, let's just jump into the episode.
jordan holmes
Okay, good call.
dan friesen
So Alex has some big news, and you know what he does.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
It's Friday, August 18th, 2023.
And you'll want to mark that date down on your calendar.
I'm going to lay out absolutely critical information on just the future of this country, but the future of the world.
Starting in the last segment of this hour in about 45 minutes.
And yes, I'm going to build it up so that everybody watching and listening, if you want to stop this, what I'm about to announce will tell their friends, their family, their neighbors, strangers, their email lists, their text message list.
Go on Facebook, go on Twitter, go on Rumble, go on Gab, go on Truth Social, go on X and tell everybody tune in now.
dan friesen
Seems defensive.
jordan holmes
It does feel a little bit like that.
dan friesen
Yes, I am going to milk this.
jordan holmes
I keep imagining who's sending an email blast like, whoa, everybody, bam!
45 minutes from now, Alex Jones says that something important is going to happen.
dan friesen
I can tell you exactly who.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
People who have a bunch of people who have blocked their email address.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Spammers.
But we have now reached the point where you have to stop traffic.
This is still just a like, hey, tweet this out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a social media, not a physical, like stop the world type shit going on.
dan friesen
Right.
Which makes me think it's not that important.
Honestly, if I don't have to stop traffic, then what are we really even doing?
jordan holmes
Based upon the level of news necessary to need to stop traffic, boy, if the stakes are lower than that, we're hosed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has a big headline here.
And, oh, boy.
alex jones
We have millions of people that are going to be tuned in this hour.
But if all of you tell others to tune in for a big, important announcement, and if all of you then link to the article that we'll be publishing in about 40 minutes from now at Infowars.com, we can stop what they're about to do.
World exclusive.
InfoWars to break massive news that impacts every man, woman, and child in America, but it also affects everybody else around the world because it's the same group coordinating it all.
dan friesen
So that's the headline is that Infowars is going to break a huge story.
So if you do send this out, that's it.
You got clickbait, basically.
jordan holmes
Wow.
That's a double dose of hype.
dan friesen
Tell everybody you know that an unspecified story is going to be broken by an outlet notorious for lying and making shit up.
alex jones
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
Everyone, you know what I am telling you, which is that I am telling you to tell everyone you know.
So tell them that I told you that you need to tell everyone you know.
dan friesen
And the effect.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you to tell everyone you know.
dan friesen
The effect of that will be that they will tell everybody that you know.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Everyone they know.
jordan holmes
But then it'll get back to me.
It's a pyramid scheme.
dan friesen
So this is not just shit talk.
Okay.
It sounds like it is.
No.
This is some stuff that comes from some sources, some whistleblowers.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
I know someone who works in a high-level in a federal agency and they're very credible.
jordan holmes
Cool.
alex jones
And they contacted me yesterday after the show.
And I went and met with them.
unidentified
I'll leave it that.
alex jones
And then I made some more phone calls.
And within 30 minutes of calling other federal sources, they said, yeah, we got told the same thing yesterday.
So this individual was in a briefing on Tuesday.
My other source said, yeah, we were in a meeting yesterday and were told the exact same thing.
Wow.
Now, you know, a couple weeks ago, I said next Tuesday, they'll indict Trump in D.C., and I named the courthouse.
That was directly from people that work in the courthouse.
So when I tell you I got a source and I tell you it's real, how many times am I telling you the truth?
dan friesen
Well, I still don't actually know if that courthouse source was real, but what about all the times that the sources haven't been real?
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
What about how many times the sources have been people like Wolfgang Halbig or Steve Pieczenik or Zach with a cue?
jordan holmes
Dan, this is your confirmation bias.
You're only pulling out examples of the thing that he doesn't do.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now I'm seeing how that doesn't go both ways.
Interesting.
dan friesen
It's uncompelling.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
I find when people are like, I have a source, very credible.
That usually is a red flag.
jordan holmes
You know, I was just thinking about the fun aspects of the English language wherein by adding a modifier, you can make something less meaningful.
You know, like credible, word, not credible.
Same concept.
Very credible.
You have made the word credible less meaningful in this context.
dan friesen
You've made me suspicious of the word that means the opposite of said.
Well, but I also think that Alex, if he was, you know, acting straight up here, I think that he wouldn't need to point out that this person is credible.
He could just, if he thought that he had as good of a reputation as he thinks he has, then he wouldn't need to say, this one's credible.
And he wouldn't have to remind people, oh, when I say I have a source, it's real.
Wait, who are you arguing with?
Shouldn't your audience, like, know this?
Shouldn't that be what everyone thinks?
jordan holmes
Imagine going to like a car bacanic.
dan friesen
No, no, no, I'm not fucking around this time.
jordan holmes
And the guy just being like, all right, come on, get in here, get in here and flashlight right on a brake pad and be like, see, you've got a break.
And then you're just like, wait, there's supposed to be more than that, right, man?
There's supposed to be more.
No, I showed you one.
Now you know that there's more than that.
Duh.
I'm very obviously showing you all of the bra.
dan friesen
It makes me feel like he knows that this is not something that people are going to be all that interested in.
And maybe he's, maybe, maybe it's a little bit of a tired game.
jordan holmes
Requires a little bit more hype.
dan friesen
So I saw right through this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I wonder if you will.
alex jones
Okay.
I have the sources.
And really anybody that works in America and in our own welfare has sources and things as well.
What?
That is the best intel.
But as soon as I learned this information, my top of my head exploded.
I got very upset.
And I was like, oh my gosh, all the signs were already there.
And I instantly got on my desktop and pulled a bunch of articles where they're already prepping it.
So I don't just have this from two federal officers.
I have this directly from the UN and the Canadian government and the Australian government.
I think a lot of you are pretty smart.
Probably smarter than me a lot of times.
Probably know what I'm about to break, don't you?
And the issue is we can stop this crap.
dan friesen
Do you get the game?
jordan holmes
I have no idea what he's talking about.
dan friesen
I mean, there's no reason you should.
Right.
But I could put some of the pieces together and some of the language that he's using is very in a certain milieu.
I could tell that basically he's trying to do COVID over again.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
The COVID lockdown story is about to start over.
We're about to do another cycle.
jordan holmes
I don't get, I don't get that.
I didn't get that.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I didn't know why is the news coming out that that's what's about to happen.
dan friesen
Well, because there are headlines that you see about rising case numbers.
Okay.
And of course, you have the expectation that as winter comes and fall comes, flu season will be upon us.
And there's a decent chance that some of these variants may rise case numbers.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Not to the point of 2020, probably, but enough to be able to play this game over again and pretend that, I don't know, some guidance from government entities is the same as a lockdown.
Sure, sure.
So I think that's pretty clear.
That was pretty clear to me.
jordan holmes
Okay, I didn't even know that it was in the context of COVID.
I was so far away.
I was like, is this going to be a war?
Is this going to be an economic attack?
Is this going to be.
But now that I've realized that it's all part of the new COVID narrative of the day.
Okay, gotcha.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's, I think, partially just like listening to some, some of it came into buzzwords, maybe that I was hearing, the tone.
And then also I had the context of like seeing some of these headlines and knowing like, well, this is probably lingering in the background somewhere.
Right, right, right.
And also, just that I would be a good writer for him.
You know, I have a sense of what could be profitable.
jordan holmes
That's the angle you can take right now.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is going to happen.
There's going to be another lockdown.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
And that's just, that's just what it is.
jordan holmes
That's just what it is.
alex jones
And it deals with a lot of things.
Putting us under another emergency.
Having mail-in ballots again next year.
Yeah, you know what it is.
And they're going to do it.
They were told it's going to happen.
And here's how we're going to roll it out to the public.
They give the feds the information without really even a sliver of deniability.
They don't say this is all crap, but they just say, hey, guaranteed it's going to happen.
Here's the phase as it rolls out.
So just get ready for it.
Well, one of it doesn't happen, like you say.
It's happening.
We know it's happening.
So I basically got the same speech.
I talked to one of the individuals for about 45 minutes.
The other can only talk for about five.
And they just said, yeah, it's all true.
And, you know, obviously don't use my name.
But look, if you don't listen to me, and if we don't get a big buzz going, and if we don't get Congress involved ahead of time, we'll let them control the narrative and do it again.
And people tuning in are like, Alex, why don't you just tell us now?
I've learned if I just start the show and give you some big story, nobody cares.
But if I build it up, we can actually have an effect and do something.
unidentified
I've learned this.
alex jones
So I'm asking you again, unless you want to go through stuff far worse than you've gone through the last three and a half years and all the deaths and all the crap to listen to me now, please, for my own interest and your own interest, our own shared interest, and to tell everyone, tune in now.
dan friesen
So yeah, I mean, it's just basically the COVID stuff didn't work out the way Alex needed it to.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like where we're at now does not really seem like where we would be based on the, you know, the vaccines killing everybody.
The government would never allow back the restrictions.
They'd never pull them back and we'd all end up in camps.
jordan holmes
Maybe he oversold it.
Maybe he oversold it just a hair.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And none of that stuff happened.
jordan holmes
There is a problem with that.
dan friesen
And so now Alex kind of needs something else to distract.
So we're just going to do it all over again.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's infuriating.
jordan holmes
Take it from the top.
dan friesen
It's so frustrating.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, listen, all right.
When you're playing a video game, you know, you hit that game over sign.
You either say, okay, game over, or you say, new game.
You're where we are.
dan friesen
I get it.
I would feel really guilty about resetting if the things inside the video game were sentient.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Let's kill a new one.
dan friesen
And the video game was about making money off hurting and annoying people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like Roller Coaster Tycoon.
dan friesen
Is that what that game's about?
jordan holmes
Actually, I think it really is.
dan friesen
I haven't played it.
So you got to spread the word.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You've got to spread the word.
jordan holmes
You have to.
alex jones
And they're celebrating and laughing at what they're doing to us.
And I'm sick of living under these bullies.
I'm sick of watching them terrorize us and the rest of the world, and I want it to stop.
And I pray to God it will stop.
And God says to me, through the spirit, I'm sorry.
God helps those that help themselves.
We've let it get to this point.
You're going to have to fix it.
And God then says, but I'll carry you the rest of the way.
But God wants to see effort.
Call people on the phone.
Text message.
Share the links.
Tell everybody your work to tune in.
Don't just sit there and let them roll out their next scenario, their next talking point, which are psychological warfare systems written by the Pentagon and other major intelligence agencies on record for the UN worldwide.
Well, quote, terrorize and brainwash the public.
And they come out with something reasonable sounding at first, and then the next week, something more, and the next month, something more, and we'll be sitting here in January in a much deeper lockdown than we were in three years ago.
dan friesen
So if you hadn't gotten it by then, that's probably where you would get it for sure.
The lockdown.
So January is going to be lockdown.
jordan holmes
Lockdown City, huh?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Deeper than before.
We've got new government-mandated underground bunkers for everybody to lock down in.
dan friesen
I feel like this is going to be tough.
Well, no, it's not.
But if Alex's audience paid attention, it would be tough.
Sure.
Because so much of this, like, oh, this is all a plot by the globalists is predicated on like Operation Lockstep and the SPARS documented.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't what happens in those.
No.
His whole conspiracy doesn't have this, like, this other round to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, I don't know.
It seems like he has to throw that out or completely recontextualize it.
jordan holmes
But that's what bothers me.
What bothers me about that is that this is a perfect opportunity.
You've got the game over sign, right?
Start over.
Try something different now.
Okay.
If you do a new game, okay, your lockstep shit didn't work out.
We're in a different place.
Google for something that sounds similar to kind of where we are and then work backwards from there.
dan friesen
There's a thousand new exercises, training exercises.
jordan holmes
There's so many.
dan friesen
You could find anything.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Just find one, work backwards, start over again.
This is the same shit, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I think the audience, they've shown themselves to be very interested in this one.
jordan holmes
I know it is really hard to break free from this.
dan friesen
So it is something that I think that he knows he'll be able to profit off of.
And it's basically a perfect propaganda game because, okay, obviously what he's talking about isn't attached to reality.
Sure.
But in the real world, there are possible outcomes.
One is that there are a bunch of new cases of COVID, and these strains are serious and maybe vaccine resistant.
Right.
And maybe we would have to maybe not lock down as much as there was before, like businesses closing and schools closing, but advice to wear masks around and people requiring them in their businesses.
That is something that foreseeably could end up happening, right?
So the or maybe there aren't a bunch of cases and nothing happens.
unidentified
Possible.
dan friesen
Now, those are the two most likely scenarios that I see.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Some slight mitigation measures being requested or required or nothing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Either way, Alex wins.
Because if there are slight mitigation measures that are required, he will say, I'm right.
I told you the lockdowns are coming.
Next week, you'll be in a camp.
Yep.
In perpetuity.
And then if nothing happens, he stopped it.
jordan holmes
It's because of him and the hyping that happened today.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Today's hyping.
It's because all of you sent out your email blasts.
Because all of you stop traffic.
Well, not on this one, but next time you're going to stop traffic.
dan friesen
There is no loss for Alex.
There's no outcome of this that is necessarily bad.
There's only outcomes that are bad for the people that are listening.
They're being kept trapped in this world.
jordan holmes
And the rest of the human race.
dan friesen
That's true.
That's true.
jordan holmes
It's a big problem for me that most of what Alex does seems to benefit very, very few people.
And it's him and like a bunch of other billionaires.
Yeah.
That's frustrating.
dan friesen
360 win.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a win-win-win.
It's a win-win-win.
So there's other news before Alex gets to the big news.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
dan friesen
One of the news items is that Vivek Ramaswamy went on Tucker.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Tucker interviewed him.
Okay.
And Alex plays a clip of it where he says that we're maybe in a 1776 moment.
And Alex is really thrilled about that.
And then here's what he says.
And who, Nelly, not good.
unidentified
I hope it leads towards a national revival rather than other places where this could go.
alex jones
You know, Indians are voting like something 70% for Trump.
And they beat the same British Empire we beat.
And I got to say, they fit in pretty damn good, don't they?
What?
That's where we are right now, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so I guess Alex believes that because India used to be under British rule and because they support Trump statistically in the polls, that Indians are great.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They're integrating just fine into American society.
jordan holmes
I mean, that is one of the more bonkers things that you could like genuinely.
dan friesen
It's racist in its own way.
jordan holmes
It is racist.
It is racist because it is very much like Indians are not unique individual people.
Very much that.
But also inscrutable.
dan friesen
Also, he's totally wrong.
And the voting statistics about Indian Americans is the polar opposite.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
70% for Biden.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
2020.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, now that I know that they.
dan friesen
It's just that Radha Swami said something that Alex enjoyed.
unidentified
And so now all Indians like Trump.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Well, you see, but I know that they overthrew the British rule non-violently, whereas we did it violently.
So, you know, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think Alex thinks that Gandhi should have been.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, nothing says Gandhi more than guns.
dan friesen
Gandhi.
So big news is coming.
alex jones
Yep.
15 minutes from now, I will begin reporting on the biggest scoop we've ever gotten.
jordan holmes
Put a timer up.
alex jones
I've broken a lot of big stories before they happen.
We have incredible credibility because of it, but we have a chance of stopping this if people use their head, use their common sense, and listen to me.
And if this isn't just some blip on the radar today, and then in a month from now, everybody goes, oh my gosh, he's right again.
Incredible.
I really don't want that.
dan friesen
Sure.
Sure, you don't.
jordan holmes
I find his smugness regarding his prognostications to be maybe the most infuriating factor.
I mean, we've done this so many times, but I mean, the smugness of just like, and then we'll be back here again, me saying I told you so.
dan friesen
Right.
But I mean, if you exist in a space where you encourage people to like hashtag Alex Jones was right, and then there's like a whole section on banned.video that's the Alex Jones tip jar.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The times he's been right.
And most of them are not accurate.
jordan holmes
They're not even right.
Not even the ones that are touted.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, but if you exist in that space, how would you not feel smug?
Like, he's enabled to the point where that behavior makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just not earned.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if I was going to believe any kind of government conspiracy regarding Infowar as being, you know, like that whole controlled opposition or like that, all that stuff, I would 100%.
The only thing I would buy is if David Jones sold Alex's life to the government and they were like, we're just going to see what we can do to a human being.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then what will happen after we've done that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, that's as grounded as maybe slightly more grounded than other theories.
jordan holmes
Just a bunch of government scientists being like, hey, let's fuck with this kid's life and see what happens.
dan friesen
Turns out, MK Ultra did not go away, and we're doing it live on air with a crazy alcoholic racist.
jordan holmes
That I would believe more than any other conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
So I think that Alex desperately does want COVID to come back and there to be lockdown mitigation measures in place because he profits dramatically from it.
So when he's sitting here and saying, like, I don't want this to be a blip and, you know, nothing happened and blah, blah, blah.
Like, no, you do.
You desperately want that.
jordan holmes
No, it is the full circle.
You know, like, we said that he was working for COVID at the beginning of COVID.
If you could possibly be doing any more to advance COVID, then it'd be hard-pressed to find out.
And now, of course, he is rooting for COVID.
dan friesen
But if everybody does a good job, everybody does.
And a good job means spread Alex's stuff right now.
Yeah, yeah.
Then maybe we can stop all this.
alex jones
I'm going to lay it all out and tell you what the feds in two different federal agencies in the last three days have been told the exact same thing.
It's done.
I know these sources, but I can go to the news and see them already teeing it up, getting it ready.
If you use a pool analogy, the balls are racked, the cubic ball's right on the line, and they're pulling back their right hand and getting ready to slam that ball in and break it.
I'd rather just take them by the hand and say, we're not going to play this game again.
Let me take that away from you.
Okay.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
That's the goal of this.
When you realize your power of your word of mouth to override the sensors, you're unstoppable.
And look, I don't care about the credit.
As soon as this breaks, as soon as you get to sell it, everybody else is going to look into it.
They're going to call their sources.
Congress is going to call their sources.
And I predict if you do a good job and I do a good job and the crew does a good job, that by Wednesday of next week, this will be a big national story.
We won't get credit.
That's great.
The globals will give me credit.
They'll be even more pissed off at me.
unidentified
That's okay.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
I wish we weren't the ones always finding out the stuff.
I wish we weren't the tip of the screw all the time.
Let me tell you, I like to fight, but not this much.
unidentified
But this is a big deal.
dan friesen
It's a big deal.
This is, I was thinking about this as that clip was playing.
This is kind of like the opposite of the most important person in the world in that it's like it's exhausting as a tease, but it's not amusing.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That was funny.
Yeah.
And it was funny the way it made you mad.
This Of like just kind of a limp, wet piece of spaghetti that you just can't do anything with it.
jordan holmes
No, yeah, I mean, the most important person in the world had great rug pulls, you know, like it's gonna happen and then rug pull.
You know, that's it's all about the Pratt fall.
dan friesen
There was there was showmanship in it, there was presentation in what Alex was doing.
jordan holmes
It's desperate.
Yeah, it's it's sad.
dan friesen
ANT's already essentially given up a lot of like what it's about before, yeah, before the tease has even paid off or whatever.
jordan holmes
And it's it's dull, and you can't be like, oh, in 15 minutes, I'm going to get into it because then what are you going to do for the next 15 minutes?
dan friesen
And well, he's going to listen to that Ramaswamy.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
dan friesen
And it's just not like he's not reporting on anything.
Like, nothing has happened.
He just allegedly went out for coffee with a guy who might be a manager at some government agency, whatever that means.
Right.
Who said that they should be ready for lockdowns or whatever.
You know, like it's second-hand something at best.
And at worst, Alex is just making shit up to get a headline out.
So there isn't any reason for this to be news.
There's no reason for anyone to care about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do appreciate sometimes when news is just like the news is just the thing that happened.
You know, there's like, you don't need to explain anything more to me.
You don't need to explain it.
There's no greater story there.
The story, I went and had coffee.
That's the end of the story.
Great headline, great story.
Let's move on with our day.
dan friesen
That might have been it.
You might have gotten coffee alone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
I talked to an imaginary lieutenant colonel.
jordan holmes
All of the rest of it is fake and made up.
I've gotten coffee alone.
dan friesen
So one of the things that I notice when Alex is talking about this stuff of what is coming, there is literally no room for the idea that COVID is real.
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This will be predicated on people who are getting sick from the vaccines and then they pretend it's a new virus or there will be another bioweapon release.
There is no natural thing that is happening.
jordan holmes
Or even the possibility of it.
dan friesen
Whatever happens is going to be an attack that is from the enemies, the globalists.
And I find that strange because, I don't know, I feel like if Alex's sources are real and they're telling him this stuff, then they have a heightened responsibility to not just tell Alex.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, that seems tell the guy no one believes.
jordan holmes
You know, it's reasonable to be, you know, because it goes the other direction.
You know, you're like, oh, well, there's, I'm more, I'm overwhelmingly positive that COVID comes from a natural interaction between humans and animals and blah, All that stuff.
Right.
But I'm not 100% sure.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because Lord knows China does stuff.
We all do stuff.
People do crazy shit, right?
Not 100% sure.
Overwhelmingly certain.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Overwhelmingly certain, but not 100%.
Alex is just like, well, clearly they've made all of this shit up and there's no such thing as the atmosphere.
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
Yeah, and the bad guys want to rid the world of carbon and the world temperature going up is good.
jordan holmes
And you're going to be allergic to meat, you piece of shit.
That's true.
dan friesen
Like it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That doesn't come up on this episode.
Okay.
jordan holmes
That was still important to me.
dan friesen
So when you're thinking about this, like, you know, this is being done to people, you know, like the pandemic is being done to people.
This headline that Alex skims through hit my ear a little weird.
alex jones
And then let me give you all the other news.
The Russians have released proof.
I don't even need to know it's true because I already have all the documents.
jordan holmes
Well, stop right there.
alex jones
Victoria Newland admitted it.
That the U.S. has a bunch of deadly bioweapon labs in Ukraine, and that the globalists released the virus, and that it came out of Wuhan, and they say they're getting ready to do it again.
U.S. is plotting another pandemic.
Russian defense minister.
You mean the globalists have hijacked us?
dan friesen
So, a couple days before this, on August 16th, Lieutenant General Igor Kirilov was talking about the U.S. Office of Pandemic Preparedness and Response Policy and said, We do not rule out the United States may use so-called defensive technologies for offensive purposes as well as for global governance by creating crisis situations of biological nature.
It's not an insignificant chance that this quote and the reporting around it is at the core of Alex's massive news.
His whistleblower and sources are made up.
So, to me, there seems to be like two possibilities.
The first is that the root of his idea that there's going to be another lockdown is this.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And the other is that Alex saw headlines about COVID cases rising and decided to write a little story about it.
In that second scenario, it wouldn't be impossible that this headline about Russia is just in Alex's stack because he told his intern to print out every headline they could Google that sounded scary about biological stuff.
Yeah.
But also, being in there is it there's a possibility that this is behind some of Alex's ideas.
Yeah.
Maybe this lieutenant colonel or State Department person was actually at the Duma.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
So this was, so this is a Ukrainian military, Russian, right?
And they're saying that it's not, we, yeah, we'd use biological weapons.
dan friesen
No, they said that they don't rule out that the United States might.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But that's also, but in like that language, that means, yeah, we might too.
That's what the that's what the diplomatic language there means.
dan friesen
You could translate it that way.
You translate however you like.
jordan holmes
These people are crazy.
They would do this thing under these circumstances that if you did, maybe we would do the same thing too.
Just letting you know, you know, that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Sure.
You can hear it that way.
Sure.
I hear Alex's inclusion of this in this pageant as being possibly like, okay, Russia is saying that the United States could use biological stuff for a global governance or offensive purposes.
That would predicate another lockdown.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Bada bo, boo, badoop.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
So that's a possibility.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I had it messed up because I thought it was a Ukrainian general saying that, and I was like, that's a weird thing for them to say.
dan friesen
That would be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be a real strange thing.
dan friesen
No, he brought up Ukraine because of the labs in Ukraine brouhaha that we talked about in the past.
jordan holmes
It is so easy to get confused.
dan friesen
It is.
There's a lot of bullshit to wade through.
jordan holmes
It's impressive how much there is.
dan friesen
So Alex's first source is a TSA person.
And so we talk about this here a little bit.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I got a call yesterday.
An individual was in town and they wanted to meet with me that I know well.
And they are a high-level manager in the TSA.
dan friesen
Shift manager?
alex jones
And I went and met with them, had a cup of coffee with them.
And they said you got to warn people.
Tuesday, we got called in, the managers, and told that by the middle of September that the new policy is being written, that this is done.
They were told this is happening.
This is not hypothetical.
You all have to wear a mask again, and so will airport employees.
Then by the middle of October, they are going to Say that everyone flying has to wear a mask.
And in the meetings, people began to ask them, well, I mean, why is this happening?
I said, well, because of the new variant in Canada and because of the WHO, they may, you know, declare this, but regardless, we've been told this is going to happen.
dan friesen
So it's not like impossible to imagine a scenario where there is wider spread masking if cases increase, but it's going to be tough for the TSA to pull off what Alex is describing because a federal judge struck down mask mandates in April 2022.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I know that it's possible for that to get reinstated or something, but there's going to be court issues with that were that to be something they were trying to do.
So I don't know.
I don't see this being as easy as this whistleblower is telling Alex, this manager.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's the thing about that stuff is like, I don't know.
Once anybody starts opening up the mask mandate thing again, nobody knows where it's going to go.
Everybody's lost their minds.
It could be everybody's chill.
dan friesen
I could see a more real, like a realistic possibility is that cases increase.
The CDC says something along the lines of it would be good to mask in public transportation, and then individual airlines make the decision to require masks.
I could see that being something or like employees.
jordan holmes
I mean, for international airports and flights, it's like, okay, fine.
America doesn't like blah.
But there was an outbreak of a strain in blank.
It's going to get back here.
You don't get to choose because it's a global thing.
A pandemic is by nature global.
Everything affects everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just, I see, I see this scenario that Alex is painting through his fake whistleblower is a little bit tough to tough to achieve in the real world at this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I might be wrong.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
We'll see what happens.
dan friesen
So we have some dates.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
We know that full-on lockdown is going to be back in January.
Right.
Right.
We have that.
And here's another date.
If you want to write these down, those might also be good for the sake of keeping track of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I forgot.
We've already gone past one date that I wrote down as August 8th.
dan friesen
That was the Crowder thing.
jordan holmes
That's the Crowder thing, I think.
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's another date.
alex jones
And then they were told we expect by December a return to the full COVID protocol of 2020-2021.
And I was given many more details.
I wrote down notes on it.
dan friesen
Let's hear them.
unidentified
You mean you brought him to work?
alex jones
Then.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I left.
unidentified
Okay.
So we're not going to hear about those notes, it turns out.
jordan holmes
See, now that's a rug pull.
That's a solid punchline right there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That one works.
dan friesen
So full COVID protocols in December.
Sure.
Lockdown in January.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Shouldn't the lockdown be?
jordan holmes
I was going to go the other.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Don't you switch those around?
dan friesen
It almost feels like it's bluffing.
jordan holmes
It does feel like.
dan friesen
It seems like this is vague bullshit.
jordan holmes
It sounds like a plan made up by somebody who is only passingly familiar with the types of things that this government agency might choose to do as opposed to somebody who is part of it.
dan friesen
Or maybe somebody who woke up this morning and decided I'm going to get weird and swing real hard.
jordan holmes
That is also a possibility, yes.
dan friesen
So Alex has another source, and this person's in the Border Patrol.
alex jones
Called the first federal connection that I was thinking of.
Didn't answer.
unidentified
Paul II answered.
alex jones
Told them what I've been told, and they said, What day was that?
I said, Tuesday.
They said, Yep, we were told yesterday.
Yesterday was Thursday, so it was Wednesday.
Expect COVID protocols to begin rolling out middle of September.
And I said, What else were you told?
Basically, that they believe this new variant's super bad and that they're doing the testing and that they should just get ready for a whole new rollout of what happened before.
And this was Border Patrol connected people I was talking to and testing at the border again in a whole shooting match.
That's two federal agents that told me this yesterday.
And then I went and looked at the news, and there they were saying Canada's looking at new restrictions again because of the variant, and so is the EU.
And one of the Russians just put out three days ago: U.S. is plotting another pandemic.
Russian head of the defense ministry warns.
dan friesen
Huh.
So, yeah, I feel like the cart is before the horse here.
Whatever the case is, whether it's reading these headlines or reading this story out of Russia, this shit talk from that general guy, whatever it is, Alex has come to a conclusion, and now he has reverse engineered some sources that have told him these things in order to give whatever he's talking about the veneer of credibility.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, I have a slight problem with the story that he's telling, and that is: so the first source, the TSA person, has this meeting and then calls Alex because this is serious right away.
The other source gets a call from Alex and like, oh, yeah, we did that yesterday.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Why didn't you call Alex?
jordan holmes
Too busy.
They're not that good friends.
Although, actually, you know what?
Maybe that is the difference.
You know, maybe that's the difference between TSA and Border Patrol.
TSA is filled with snitches.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Border Patrol's filled with fucking murderers and shit.
You know?
dan friesen
You know what, though, man?
I don't know.
I think if I were Alex, I wouldn't trust this Border Patrol person.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't trust a Border Patrol person.
dan friesen
They were going to totally go along with this until Alex called.
If Alex hadn't called, you know, he'd probably just be like, oh, everything's fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but, you know, you get away with that by being like, well, I assumed you already knew.
Because what is Alex going to say then?
I did already know.
But that's why you should have called me.
dan friesen
That's a good point.
Yeah.
You could double bluff Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, you could always double bluff Alex because Alex has nothing other than a bluff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I could also, there's another problem, and that is that Alex is saying that they're going to bring back testing at the border.
His whole thing was that they didn't test people at the border.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
This whole just is convoluted.
jordan holmes
It is hard to keep.
Yeah, of course, he doesn't care that he's saying that.
It's hard for him to keep track of whether or not he was mad that they were doing one or the other.
It didn't matter which one they were doing.
He was mad that they were doing the one they were doing.
dan friesen
He could be mad at either.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we're just going to be right back where we started.
jordan holmes
Sounds good.
alex jones
New lockdowns will starve the third world.
New lockdowns will destroy small businesses.
New lockdowns will take the average person that's already $5,000 in the hole and their paycheck is just on time.
We'll put them into full bankruptcy.
And the children in the mask and the attempt to push a new shot for the new variant, and we're right back in the same hellhole we were in just a few years ago.
And why is it perfect timing?
Because going to the election year.
dan friesen
Man, you would love to be back in that same hole.
He was making so much more money.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Why is it perfect timing?
Because you need a lot of money.
There could be nothing better for Alex's bottom line than doing this over again.
If he could get that same kind of excitement going again, it would be very, very good for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, especially the second time around.
The second time around is going to be a lot more intense.
dan friesen
And he's learned some lessons, probably.
Or somebody's learned some lessons.
jordan holmes
Somebody somewhere has learned some lessons.
But it is not going to be pretty.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
And it's not hypothetical.
This shit's happening.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Total election meddling.
That even the right word.
It's stealing election preemptively.
So Trump can't campaign.
Is unable to campaign.
And then you've got right in the middle of all of this a new COVID rollout.
And I was very specific with both people.
I said, to be clear, did they say this was hypothetical?
No, we asked that.
We said, how do you know?
And they said, well, we can see with the testing.
It's going up.
It's already really bad.
I thought to Dr. Stella Emmanuel yesterday about this.
I said, are you seeing increases?
She said, yeah, it's the COVID shots.
jordan holmes
Record shots.
alex jones
She's seeing record death, record illness in Houston, where she has a huge practice, medical doctor, compared to the hike of the so-called last pandemic.
So you have 20 million people dead from the shots.
You have all sorts of illnesses.
It's all going to be blamed on COVID, the heart attacks, the myocarditis, the blood clots, the strokes.
Because it's all kicking in now.
dan friesen
So, yeah, that's another thing that's important to point out.
You know, at the beginning there, you hear like the election meddling and stuff.
And that kind of is another piece of this that is at the core of what the conspiracy serves to achieve.
And that is that it gives a way to delegitimize any kind of like mail-in ballot stuff in 2024.
Yeah, for sure.
Because that's like, you know, when you hear something like this, with Alex's gigantic news and all this, it's tough to really figure out what's the point.
And I would argue that possibly the end point of this is the 2024 election.
Sure.
That seems to be what all of these plans that the globalists are putting into place are meant to affect.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
I think.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, it would track.
But the.
I mean, but who cares?
That's the, I mean, not, and I don't mean like, who cares about the election?
I mean, like, we are at a place now where it's like, we're just, we're just barreling towards it.
Nobody's, nobody's like, oh, look at this new information that's come to light.
It's, it's, we're barreling towards the place that we didn't want to be for the past eight years total.
You know, like, this is just what we've been doing.
And then we're going to do it again in 2024.
I don't understand why there needs to be complex plans going on right now.
dan friesen
I mean, like, it's a reduce.
Left, left without any elaborate conspiracies, there's going to be chaos.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's going to, it's not going to be a smooth election year.
jordan holmes
There is no clue.
I mean, yeah.
And then you have, that's, but that's the thing about, and then the thing about disease stuff, you know, like, if, if, sure, the COVID problems, oh, myocarditis and all this stuff, it's like, but the next strain of virus might attack a different part of your system.
Like, that's also how it works.
dan friesen
Yeah, but then we're going to find out that that's a side effect of the shots, too.
jordan holmes
But that's what I'm saying.
It's like, there's no end.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It just will never end.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's one of the things that I think makes looking at and paying attention to this propaganda space the most annoying.
Like the outbreak and the pandemic has been like it's just it's been it's been shown to be such a profit driver for shitheads and liars that like it there's no way around it.
It's never not going to be a well that is going to be gone back to now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is a noxious fart that refuses to dissipate.
It just will not go away.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But Alex, he's probably right.
He's probably going to be right again.
alex jones
I don't tell you this is coming so when it happens, everybody thinks I'm amazing.
unidentified
I'm telling you this so that we can stop them.
alex jones
Then they'll say, oh, Love Jones said this is going to happen.
It didn't happen.
I don't mind being the bad guy.
I'll dance a little dance if we can stop this.
You know they're arrogant, though, and you know they got to steal the next election.
So we'll work hard to expose it.
It'll get us ahead of it.
But I got a single suspicion.
We'll be sitting here very soon going Alex Jones is right again.
Bittersweet.
dan friesen
Why is it bittersweet?
unidentified
Why is that bittersweet at all?
jordan holmes
That's not bittersweet.
No.
You don't get sweet satisfaction from telling people that they're going to die.
dan friesen
Is it bittersweet to create scenarios wherein you're right no matter what happens?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's more cheating.
I would say cheating.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Being a bullshit artist.
jordan holmes
It's malnutrition.
I would even go so far as to say that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's scurvy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
No, I just, I resent that.
These types of situations where like every outcome works to the advantage of the bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I just.
Because like you like you're wrestling with there's just nothing you can do.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
There is no there there is no situation where Alex is going to feel like, oh man, I really whiffed this one.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, he's never wrong.
I mean, it is, you know, it is, it is that it is scurvy.
You know, it is, it is an atrophy because you're never addressed with like real problems that you then have to solve.
You know, you are creating made-up shit and then creating your own solution to it.
dan friesen
But that's, that's not atrophying for him because his goal isn't to solve any problems to begin with.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I'm just saying.
dan friesen
He's trying to make money, and this works to make money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's he's working out.
He's eating limes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I, you know, I'm telling you, lately, I feel like he's just punching the clock.
I'll tell you that.
I don't think he's, I don't think he's working out.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
I think you're right on a number of occasions.
Sure.
There's definitely some episodes that have been like, you're going through motion.
jordan holmes
Clock in, clock out.
dan friesen
This is ambitious a little bit.
At least he's trying to create the presentation of the market.
jordan holmes
There is the hype.
There is the hype.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's true.
But it's true.
But at the same time, there is no risk to this.
It's not really that interesting.
I guess they're trying to make us allergic to meat is maybe a bigger swing in as much as there's a risk to it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There is a falsifiable state to it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Here's what I would pitch if I was in the writer's room for this.
You know, like, if we're going to do the COVID thing, if we're just going to redo it, all right, we need to add one element that gives us like a new hook.
We just need one new hook.
The framework is the same.
Everybody's going to follow it along, but we need one new hook of some sort.
dan friesen
We need to reveal a new villain.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Another prong to the plan.
jordan holmes
If you're doing a second season, then you got to, you know, the stakes were already too high.
You know, so then you have to add a you have to add something that brings life to it.
dan friesen
And I'm sure that we'll find out whatever that is before too long.
But yeah, for now, it just appears like Alex really desperately wants to do this again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we should have.
Okay, so mask mandates, real unpopular.
Glove mandates.
Everyone has to wear gloves all the time.
dan friesen
I mean, it kind of.
A lot of people were wearing gloves at the beginning.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Reasonable to think, too.
Right?
Now, why would they make you no fingerprints?
Because they want to erase who you are as an individual.
dan friesen
What about this?
jordan holmes
Who gets to take the gloves off?
unidentified
That's the real blindfold mandate.
jordan holmes
Ooh, blindfold mandate.
Yeah, but I feel like you can't buy that one.
dan friesen
Seeing things gives you COVID.
alex jones
Why not?
jordan holmes
I mean, it is.
Might as well call it bird box fever.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, I forgot that movie existed.
So look, man, the only way to fight back, you know how.
It's promoting Alex.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
And you've been told from federal sources, Biden's told them we're going to roll it out with first the TSA wearing masks and poison airports.
Then a month later, in October, everybody's got to wear a mask to fly.
And then it all starts over again.
Are you an idiot?
Are you going to roll over to the same scam again?
Do you have a memory?
Do you remember what they did?
If you want to fight back, go to Infowars.com and share this article.
Take clips of the show later and share it.
And get everybody else to cover it.
And then hopefully we back them off.
But they need to steal the next election.
That email in ballots again.
They need it to go into next year.
So unless we work really hard, we're going to be here in a month going, wow, Alex Jones is right again.
Let's prove me wrong.
Let's change history.
dan friesen
I've proved you're wrong a few times.
Maybe once or twice.
Yeah, this is just, you know, it's the same impotence that generally comes from his show.
And that is that all roads of action lead to things that are directly profitable to Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's not a coincidence.
jordan holmes
It is fun listening to that music, you know, because that is that idea that he has the Texan, the high noon kind of thing.
But then you like, you juxtapose that with his actual behavior.
And you're like, okay, we meet at high noon, pistols.
And then instead of that, I turn and I go and I'm like, hey, everybody, tell them that this guy's a real piece of shit and that I'm great.
All right.
We did it.
dan friesen
Let's meet at high noon.
I'll be wasted.
And if you're a woman, I'm going to yell at you in a misogynistic way.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is not a duel necessarily heroic or courageous or really anything other than masturbatory.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm going to get a bullhorn and yell at a teen because they can't go to my swimming hole.
So I'm going to just ignore this next clip because it's kind of the same thing.
Alex is just talking at length about how he'll toast champagne if he's wrong on air.
Sure.
Sure.
And then you just have one last clip here.
And I think that the way that Alex is framing this and the way that he's thinking about this is really, really bizarre.
alex jones
Stop thinking of this as Netflix.
This is not where you watch and you're just a spectator.
You're in the arena.
You're under attack.
When you get excited, this came over.
I need every crew member that has an online account to put out this article.
I need every listener that has an online account on every account you've got to put out.
We're going to stop their next lockdown.
We're going to stop their UN treaty.
unidentified
We're going to stop them by not submitting.
And this is basic civil disobedience to say no, no, Got cut off by the commercial break.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
But yeah, it's not Netflix.
The show isn't entertainment until it needs to be for him to excuse some of his actions.
jordan holmes
Hey, I mean, this is just an entertainment show.
dan friesen
But then civil disobedience is interesting because he's.
unidentified
No, Sure.
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
He's being civilly disobedient against something that hasn't happened and may not happen, which is weird.
jordan holmes
And he's not terribly civil about it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Well, and the act of civil disobedience is sending his links to people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That doesn't seem like civil disobedience to me.
That just seems like emailing somebody an article.
jordan holmes
No, the hallmark of civil disobedience is drawing and then accepting unjust consequences in order to draw attention to it.
dan friesen
Yeah, civil disobedience would be like, let's say there is a mask mandate at airports, then making a human chain around the airport entrance and not allowing yourselves to be moved until the police brutalize you.
jordan holmes
And then whenever people see the police arresting a thousand people, it looks very stupid and wondering why that is that the police, a group of idiots, would arrest all these people who seem like they're very right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the idea.
dan friesen
That would be a civil disobedience-ish thing.
Not sending an Infowars article to someone who doesn't want to read it so Alex can get more clicks and maybe lure some people into his information and revenue streams.
That's not civil disobedience.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it is to Alex.
jordan holmes
You know, it is interesting how many times, you know, we've all been on social media and you can definitely, you know that there are some people who are clearly like, okay, I posted that you need to care about this thing and I have done my civic duty for the day.
You know, that kind of thing.
And whatever.
That's what you do.
But to have it be encouraged as like, that is civil disobedience.
dan friesen
That's crazy to me.
Well, you know, I mean, I wonder if Alex, you know, exists in a position where there isn't a whole lot more he can advocate people do without it turning ugly really fast.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
Maybe that is almost the peak of that.
jordan holmes
Well, what's unjustified, okay?
So in response to the president just murdered 17 million people, here's what I say to you.
I say, vote.
And you go, we literally voted that guy in who killed us.
dan friesen
And our votes don't matter because the elections are all stolen.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
Whatever.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
So, okay, well, that one, maybe that didn't tickle your fancy.
All right, so then run for office.
dan friesen
Well, you can't get people to vote for you because all the votes are stolen.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Laura Loomer should be in office.
jordan holmes
Wait a second.
So what you're saying is that both aspects, the ruling and the being ruled part of this whole system are non-functioning.
So you have to destroy the system.
How do you do that without going, let's start fires?
dan friesen
Send a link.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Send a link.
jordan holmes
Send an incendiary link.
dan friesen
Send a link that all there is in it is Alex claiming he had coffee with a guy from the TSA who told him that masks might be back.
jordan holmes
And that will topple the system.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's why the globalists are scared of Alex.
That is why he is a threat to the system.
It's because he encourages such potent action.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, big news.
jordan holmes
Don't write your congressman.
dan friesen
Why would you?
They're all globalists anyway.
Yep.
Only write your congressperson if it's one of the five I like.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And regardless of whether or not your district, what district are you in?
dan friesen
No matter where you live, write Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Yes.
He's got the ear of the president.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, we'll be back, Jordan, with another episode, but I'm glad we got this big news out of the way.
jordan holmes
I know.
Well, you know, I'm not looking forward to it coming to fruition.
dan friesen
Or not.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because either way, Alex is wrong.
jordan holmes
It's wrong.
Either way, we're hosted.
Yeah.
Yep.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at Knowledge Underscore Fights.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
You think I'm going to do a song, don't you?
But I didn't.
I didn't do a song.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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