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Aug. 18, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#839: August 16, 2023

In this installment, Roger Stone provides a very unbiased critque of the newest Trump indictment and Alex pitches a theory that the Maui fires were a false flag.

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alex jones
15:07
d
dan friesen
40:26
j
jordan holmes
20:45
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donald j trump
01:30
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roger stone
01:14
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steve quayle
00:02
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
donald j trump
knowledge fight.
unidentified
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you today, sir.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's Bright Spot?
dan friesen
My Bright Spot today, Jordan, is a big one.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
That is that I got my passport.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Yeah!
So we put the cart before the horse a little bit in terms of putting together this tour.
jordan holmes
Legally, you were not allowed to do the tour that we had put together.
dan friesen
We believed at the time of making the decision that there would probably be enough time based on the stated turnaround times from the State Department of how quick you could get a passport.
And so we were like, ah, fuck it.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
If I don't have my passport, maybe there's something else we could do.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Maybe there's an emergency option or something.
unidentified
Terrible.
jordan holmes
I got TSA pre-checked, my man.
How dare you?
dan friesen
It was anxiety-provoking.
But, you know, in a rare big ups, I gotta say big ups to the State Department, it was quick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was surprisingly fast.
We could definitely do the tour now.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
You know, cheers and jeers.
The State Department made a lot of missteps.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In the past, agreed.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
This time, they got it right.
They got it right.
Under-promise and over-deliver.
dan friesen
That's the way you do it.
Now, does this make up for the sins of the past?
jordan holmes
Well, uh...
dan friesen
Past secretaries of state like Kissinger.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, I was trying to figure out if Kissinger personally got this faster to you.
Because that's the only way there's a mitigation.
dan friesen
If so, I think he's still got a lot left to pay for.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
But yeah, I'm excited to have that renewed.
That's something I had always meant to renew and then just never got around to it because there wasn't cause for it.
And I was living hand to mouth in a way that leaving the country felt like, well, that's never going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's not worry about my passport right now.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Selling blood.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a whole different world of concerns.
And so, yeah, now I haven't been able to maybe take a trip or two here and there.
I certainly bucket list, like to get over to Easter Island at some point.
Of course.
That's about it.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I know.
jordan holmes
You really want to go there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Australia, we're looking at you.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
We're coming.
jordan holmes
Definitely.
dan friesen
Got to get Jordan's ass kicked down under.
jordan holmes
I need to be beaten up in all hemispheres.
dan friesen
Yes.
Kick Jordan's ass and take him out to the outback.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, don't take me to the outback.
I'm scared of a lot of things that kill you out there.
dan friesen
Yeah, Dingo is going to team up with a gator.
jordan holmes
That's problematic.
I'm more...
Listen.
unidentified
Scorpions.
jordan holmes
Scorpions are the thing for me.
They got the tail thing.
They do.
Spiders are scary, but spiders have teeth.
I got teeth.
We can work this out.
dan friesen
Sure.
You can bite each other.
jordan holmes
Scorpion?
Tail.
Nothing I can do about that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Unbeatable.
dan friesen
And it does seem unfair the way the tail works.
unidentified
It's unfair!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's multi-directional.
Yes, absolutely.
Well, we'll keep you away from scorpions.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, interestingly enough, Australia.
I've been watching the Women's World Cup.
I am a fair-weather football fan.
It has been very, very enjoyable, and Australia had made it.
They're hosting along with New Zealand, and New Zealand crashed out almost immediately.
And Australia made it all the way to the semifinals against England, all right?
And they made it to, I want to say, like 60 minutes, all right?
dan friesen
You would say that those are the same team.
jordan holmes
Australia and England?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
They still have the Queen on their money.
jordan holmes
Well, the Queen's dead.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Former Queen.
jordan holmes
Anyways, yeah, they lost, but it was really fun.
It was really fun, and they made it a lot further than anybody expected them to.
Great, exciting game.
Everybody had fun.
dan friesen
What was the score?
1-0?
jordan holmes
3-1.
Wound up being 3-1.
Sam Kerr, who was their star, she was injured.
She couldn't play at all in the earlier stages.
She's finally able to play in the semifinal, right?
She's the star.
Fucking comes up with the best goal I've seen in a long, long time.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Kicked it out from 30 meters or whatever.
Flew up the goal center.
unidentified
Ah, I'm trying to get it!
jordan holmes
But it went over her hand.
It was amazing.
It was amazing.
dan friesen
That's the equivalent of getting dunked on.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
When there's a picture of you as a goalie diving and missing.
jordan holmes
And it's such a beautiful picture, too.
dan friesen
That's like getting posterized.
jordan holmes
No, it's even worse, because the goaltender did such an amazing job.
She's essentially wound up being photographed in a backflip, and her eyes are still on the ball as it hits the back of the neck.
Just like this tragic...
dan friesen
Can't say she didn't try.
jordan holmes
She tried everything she had!
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wow, that's fun.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Very fun.
Yeah, I wish I cared more about soccer, football.
Association rules football.
jordan holmes
That's how we do it.
dan friesen
Yep.
But yeah, I just can't do it.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
But it's not like I like other sports instead.
jordan holmes
I know, no.
dan friesen
I just, I have a passing...
jordan holmes
Why do you want to like...
dan friesen
I don't know, people bond over it.
But it's the same thing with, like, a ton of sports.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the whole thing.
dan friesen
I've enjoyed going to a bar with you and watching a sporting event, but, like, I wish I enjoyed the sporting event itself more so it wouldn't feel like I have to force myself into situations where we can, like, not just you and I, but me or anybody can bond over a sport.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I understand.
Yeah, I mean, it's bonding and betting.
That's what sports are.
unidentified
It's for hanging out and for making money or losing a lot of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think a lot of my friends were pretty hardcore gamblers.
See?
Maybe...
It seemed like something I couldn't get in on.
Too many weird prop bets and over-unders.
jordan holmes
Oh, I can't do that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that kind of intimidated me away from the betting.
jordan holmes
Once you get into gambling nerds, then I'm fucked.
I'm out.
I can't do any of that.
dan friesen
I did invent a stat that is entirely meaningless, but I gambled on it once.
And that was called plumbles.
jordan holmes
Plumbles.
dan friesen
And that's punts divided by fumbles in a football game.
jordan holmes
All right.
I like that.
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know what it tells you.
But you set the over-under at like.3 or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Wait.
I think that would actually...
I don't know what that would mean.
That would mean that there are a certain number of punts per number of fumbles.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That is the stat.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is it.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So if you have more punts per fumble, either you are better at not...
Fumbling the ball.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And punting the ball.
dan friesen
But you're still losing the ball.
jordan holmes
But you're still losing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You're better at making it to fourth down.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Correct.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's a bad stat.
dan friesen
I imagine it does tell you something.
But my friends weren't keen on betting on it.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think it would almost do...
I think it almost tells you the opposite of something useful.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
You know, like it...
Because you don't want a...
Bad.
dan friesen
You don't want any.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the goal is to have zero of both.
dan friesen
Right.
And what if you have two punts and zero fumbles?
Then it's impossible.
jordan holmes
Then it's infinity.
dan friesen
Yes.
These are the friends also who got deep into horse tracks.
That'll happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll happen.
dan friesen
For a bit.
jordan holmes
There you go.
That'll happen.
dan friesen
Boy, what a bummer.
What a bummer of a scene over at the horse track.
Dog track, excuse me.
jordan holmes
Not for me.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode that also isn't for you.
Not for anybody.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
It's bad.
It's always bad.
jordan holmes
It is always bad.
dan friesen
It's the present day.
We're talking about August 16th, 2023, of course.
Trump got indicted again.
jordan holmes
That's correct.
dan friesen
Again.
Racketeering on this one, though.
Different charges.
Mixing it up a little bit.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
We're all having a great time.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
What is this?
dan friesen
Yeah, I feel like we're in a situation now with all of these indictments that, like...
You gotta think something's gonna stick.
I understand the nihilism of like, well, nothing ever works.
Or nothing ever, there's no consequences ever for anything.
But man, the odds, it seems like, of getting through this minefield seems low.
jordan holmes
It is, and apparently not even the General Lee can jump over this challenge, it seems.
dan friesen
It's a sticky wicket.
jordan holmes
It does feel that way.
God, you never know.
Those Duke boys can get out of just about anything.
dan friesen
That is true.
Well, we'll see what happens, and today we'll see what Alex's response to all this was.
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Stuart P., thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, the one true Bob.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Bongwater Jones.
My wife, Erica, interesting spelling, A-R-I-K-A, thinks this podcast has made me weird.
You're weird.
Look at the spelling of your name.
You're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
dan friesen
Editorialized a little bit.
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
You're about to get beat up in Australia.
dan friesen
That's fine.
That's fine.
Next, happy City Hall wedding.
Connor and Katie, you're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you, and all caps on this one.
A large gay rodent with an internet connection.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And, of course, insert random scat sounds.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much.
Going out to all one word, although you capitalize the W in the middle of it.
Intense wiggling.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken over here!
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
He's not.
So, Jordan, before we get into the episode proper, this is not Dreamy Creamy Summer.
This is not Chilly Willy Winter.
This is not a bright spot.
This is not Spawn Con.
But I got a little drink here that is weird, and I want to try it and see how it goes.
This is Coca-Cola Zero Sugar Ultimate Edition.
Zero Calorie Cola Plus XP Flavored.
So this has got to be some kind of a game thing.
jordan holmes
Plus XP flavor.
dan friesen
Yeah, this has got to be like a video game thing, right?
jordan holmes
You are earning experience points via this drink.
dan friesen
You're fucking right, I am.
jordan holmes
All right, here we go.
Experience points.
We are seeing a plus four.
dan friesen
I've had an experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's very clear.
The facial experience is one for me.
dan friesen
It was interesting.
There's a fruit to it.
jordan holmes
There's a fruit to it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It feels like there's a peach.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it's not just peach.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
There's something else going on in there.
The color red comes to mind, and peach.
jordan holmes
So it's a red peach.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That tracks.
dan friesen
Yep.
Not bad.
I mean, in terms of these Cokes that have been different, weird things, I don't want it more than I want Coke.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which seems like a, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't beat Coke, but it's fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's better than that one weird one.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What was that fucking one that tasted like a tobacco?
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't even want to remember it.
dan friesen
So Alex starts out the show not talking about Trump's indictment, but instead talking about the fires in Maui.
Yes.
So we're going to begin here with the way Alex starts the show, which is Trump giving a little speech and throwing some shade around, and then Alex speaking his piece.
donald j trump
And very importantly, the aftermath is going very poorly with the governor of the island, wanting to do nothing but blame it on global warming and other things that just happened to pop into his head.
When asked about it today, as he was getting into a car, perhaps coming home from the beach, where he has been spending a great deal of time.
Crooked Joe Biden, the most incompetent president in the history of our country.
To say no comment is oftentimes fine, but to be smiling when you say it, especially against such a tragedy as this, is absolutely horrible and unacceptable.
It is a disgraceful thing that Joe Biden refuses to help or comment on the tragedy in Maui, just as he refused to help or comment.
On the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, for a very, very long time.
In any event, hopefully everyone will be able to pull together so that a horrible situation does not get even worse.
To the families affected, I give you my love and sympathy.
Nothing can ever replace your loved ones, but you will always have the memories and will feel their great love surrounding and embracing you.
Together we will continue to carry their legacy forward, and I love you all very much.
Thank you.
alex jones
Heartfelt, powerful presidential message from our real president.
Biden was asked about it and said, no comment.
Our hearts go out to people that were sending aid.
In fact, they're blocking aid coming in from private citizens and not bringing in federal aid.
The governor, I video, announced they're going to steal the property and turn it into a smart city with Bill Gates.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You cannot.
Make this stuff up.
dan friesen
Except he just did.
jordan holmes
Yes, you 100% can.
dan friesen
I will say that it is maybe a fair criticism that Joe Biden hasn't talked enough about the wildfires in Maui in the past days, but what Alex and Trump are doing is playing games about a tragedy to score political points.
It's just obvious.
Let me read to you from a statement put out by the White House.
Quote, That statement was released on August 9th, almost a week before this episode of Alex's show.
Alex doesn't care about the fires or the people impacted by them, and to put it more sharply, he doesn't care whether Biden talks about them or not.
What he cares about is following along with his team, and he sees his team saying Biden is ignoring the fire, so Alex dutifully repeats that message and exaggerates it further, making up shit about Biden blocking aid and what have you.
Alex is a follower.
He's not the tip of the spear rooting out lies and corruption.
He's just a demagogue spouting the bullshit his strongman leader says to with his The governor of Hawaii, Josh Green, did not announce that they're going to seize all the land affected by the fires and make smart cities or some bullshit.
What happened is that Green spoke out and gave a warning about scams that people often try to run after tragedies, exploiting desperation in the public response to it.
Governor Green explored options with his attorney general about halting any sales of properties that had been damaged because residents had reported being approached by people who didn't live on the island who were posing as real estate agents and seeking to buy their property naturally for less than it would be worth under other circumstances.
This kind of predatory behavior might be considered like an attempt at land grabbing, but what the governor did was speak out against it and seek legal means of protecting the public from it.
Green did make a comment about unspecified areas of land that he said the state would buy before allowing private outside developers to come in and poach it.
Right.
unidentified
I can see how that could be seen by some people as an instance of state land grabbing, but I disagree.
dan friesen
I don't pretend to be an expert on it or anything, but I lived in Hawaii for a bit as a kid, and I can say that the public attitude toward outside developers is intensely hostile.
I can't even really express to you how much it was instilled in me, even as a third grader, how much damage had been done by the big Japanese companies and the howlies like me coming in and buying land, developing it into things like a game.
Mm-hmm.
These developments didn't serve the public.
In fact, locals are largely excluded from these luxuries, either because they can't afford the golf course or because they don't need to stay at a resort.
They live there.
The developments do, however, attract vacationers, which attracts businesses aimed at vacationers and specifically not aimed at locals.
You see this distinction very clearly.
If you go to Honolulu and walk around Waikiki Beach, that area, you see that glut of fancy restaurants and flashy shops, but then just walk six blocks towards the interior of the island and the picture changes entirely.
The capital investment in the tourist area does not help the people who live in Hawaii.
It solidly works against their quality.
Yeah, no, it is.
jordan holmes
After having been there.
dan friesen
And you remember, we're walking around this lavish beach area, and then we walk towards where I lived as a kid, and on the way, they're just like, huh, the only restaurant here appears to be, like, it's someone's house.
jordan holmes
I mean, I feel like the only thing that needs to be done with Hawaii is give it back, and then declare it protected.
And let nobody fuck with it.
Like a national park, but we don't own it because it's not our nation.
dan friesen
I am not unsympathetic to Hawaii independence ideas, but I think I would defer to people there.
And their perspective is more than I...
jordan holmes
No, but that's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying like, oh, send him off.
I'm saying that the locals are the people who live there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I also don't think that there's a universal consensus.
Among people who are locals who live there.
jordan holmes
Of who is exactly local?
dan friesen
No, about whether or not being part of the United States is preferable to independence.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
That I think there's mixed opinions on, but I think that there's far more...
Unity in disliking outside investment coming in and completely changing the culture, changing the environment just for the sake of making money.
jordan holmes
No, it should be preserved as the...
Perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I never saw any polling on this, but I can say that from my anecdotal experience, 100% of Hawaii's residents do not want more vulture developers coming in and transforming the islands into exploitative vacation spots.
You could see a governor saying he would explore the possibility of the state buying land before letting developers buy it as him being a tyrant.
Or you could see it as him doing what he was elected to do, which is serve the interests of the public.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not like he was saying we're going to buy up the land and make it all ours.
He's talking about have family housing on it and stuff.
jordan holmes
No, that is what you should be doing.
That's what we should all be doing.
dan friesen
If the alternative is these awful companies coming in, then yes, the state is preferable to that.
Preferable to all of it is that fire not happening, but we don't get to choose that option.
jordan holmes
The idea, essentially, is that...
The people own it, right?
Not an outside developer.
dan friesen
And the government is a manifestation of the people.
And the will of the people.
In the perfect circumstance.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is the functional idea that the government should act as though the entirety of the people had chosen to do a thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
It's unfortunate that we don't even consider that as a possibility.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I love Hawaii.
I love Maui, even though I've only been there once.
There's an old Hawaiian saying, Maui no ka 'oi, which means Maui is the best.
It was traditionally like a boast and chant that islanders of the past would say to show their pride.
But when I visited, I remember feeling it more like, yeah, man, Maui is the best.
From Haleakala to Kahakaloa, it's just the best.
And obviously, our hearts go out to all the people there who are affected by this tragedy.
And, you know, I have the utmost faith that people there will be able to...
To recover and get back on track.
It's just really, really disgusting to hear Alex and Trump and the way that they're operating in the aftermath of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is...
It has been very, very lovely not hearing that as the, like...
The news putting out what the president says, you know?
Like, not hearing Trump be like, hey, we're saying sad things.
I'm real sorry for that.
Biden can go fuck himself.
I hate these people.
Everybody's mean to me.
I don't know.
Something about Hawaii.
I hope everybody feels better.
I love you.
dan friesen
I could have stopped the fire.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
If there was a Republican governor.
jordan holmes
Like, oh, we used to have to hear that shit all the goddamn time.
And now people are trying to make it happen again.
dan friesen
It's annoying.
Indeed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, he went to Hawaii recently.
Remember one of his many vacations?
jordan holmes
He did.
dan friesen
He was doing that scouting out of Zuckerberg's mansion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was a spy.
dan friesen
Yeah, but apparently he did some other things while he was there.
alex jones
Now, I was just in Hawaii for two weeks in Kauai and also in Oahu.
And obviously I'm well known, so I got invited out by the Hawaiians several times.
And I got a chance to hang out with some of the leaders.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
And they all got little ancestral pieces of property right on the beach where they're being offered $20 million, $100 million, for even two, three, four acres.
And there's dozens, I said dozens, more than 100 millionaires that have moved out there.
And that's all the locals told me about when I went on a fishing trip and things like that, was how horrible they are and how they're stealing all the property.
And how they're waging war on them, and how they burn them out.
And so the governor now said, oh, we're not giving the people their property back, which is the cultural center is where the fire happened.
That's where the Hawaiian royal family lived for thousands of years.
unidentified
Thousands of years.
alex jones
It's Tahitian culture that arrived there about 2,000 plus years ago.
Talk about incredible mariners, seamen, and they're just taking it.
dan friesen
So if it's property that is yours, a fire being there doesn't remove that from being your property.
It doesn't just automatically be like, ha ha, there was a fire.
It's now not yours anymore.
Second, if he's talking about something like where the palace there used to be, then that's public land already.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know what he's talking about.
And also, I don't believe this dude for a second.
Not a single second do I believe that he was hanging out with local Hawaiian folks during his vacation.
Not that he was supposed to be there with scouting out Zuckerberg, not embedding himself in the independence movement.
That's something he would be against.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, that's absurd.
dan friesen
Their ideology, I think, is diametrically opposed to Alex, because he's a major part of the problem that they're up against.
He yells about 1776 all the time, and he believes in unrestrained capitalism and conquering the moon and shit.
jordan holmes
Listen to what he even made up.
He was like, oh, these people are being offered $10, $20, $100 million to do this.
He's saying that the government shouldn't step in to block land developers.
Yes.
Pointing out that land developers are trying to steal their land.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He is of the mind that the people who are making these developments, building these golf courses...
jordan holmes
They're the ones doing all the good!
dan friesen
Yes, they're the ones who should not be...
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's absurd.
dan friesen
He has zero problem also, Alex, with colonialism done by white people.
And he would never support a Hawaii secessionist movement and...
If he were to ever meet a lot of these Hawaiian people, he would think that they were demonic racists.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because they have a very, like, obviously not every Hawaiian person, but a lot of Hawaiian people don't have very positive feelings towards white people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Due to a fair amount of colonial history.
So I think that the first person who called him a Howley, Alex would probably turn the page on all the islands.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Let me throw this out at you.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
If Texas does secede, like Alex wants, do they then invade Hawaii so Alex has somewhere to go?
Because if you secede, if you're Texas and you secede from the Union...
You don't just get to go to the rest of the places.
dan friesen
If you have a passport, you do.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know if we're allowing Texas into...
I kind of don't want to allow Texans into our border.
I think we need a travel ban.
dan friesen
This is a whole other conversation.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
Whether or not you allow border crossing from the theoretical Republic of Texas.
Sure.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe.
I think that it's not the most direct route.
jordan holmes
It's harder to get there from Texas.
dan friesen
I think that Alex likes Barton Springs and some of those, you know, Texas coasts.
There's some nice stuff.
There's enough beach there.
jordan holmes
There's pretty nice stuff.
dan friesen
So the area that was affected by the fire that Alex is talking about is called Lahaina.
One of the great features of the area is a big banyan tree is meant to represent where King Kamehameha's first palace was after he united the islands into the Kingdom of Hawaii.
The capital wasn't there for very long, though.
It moved to Honolulu, where it's arguably, there's more history that relates to a united Hawaii there pre-United States taking over.
Things like Liliokalani's rule and what have you.
When Alex says that the Hawaiian royal family lived in Lahaina for thousands of years, that's just horseshit.
as one kingdom until 1795, and the last monarch, Liliokalani, was deposed in 1893, less than 100 years later.
That's the history of the United Kingdom of Hawaii.
There was only a Hawaiian royal family for that long.
After that, it's mostly been a territory or a state, and prior to that, you had a bunch of people who were in charge of an island or parts of an island.
It was not united until Kuma.
Kamehameha conquered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one blew me for a sec.
dan friesen
What was that?
jordan holmes
That Hawaiians have been there for thousands of years!
I mean, I don't know quite where we...
dan friesen
Well, you could...
jordan holmes
People lived there.
dan friesen
Yeah, saying that there was a Hawaiian royal family there for thousands of years is...
jordan holmes
That's absurd.
dan friesen
Yes, that's nonsensical.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And the origins of the Hawaiian people is more complicated than just people from Tahiti came to the islands.
The Tahitian immigration was the second wave of people who arrived, which was hundreds of years after Polynesians from the Marquesas Islands got there.
It is fair, however, to say that the early inhabitants of Maui were predominantly the folks from Tahiti.
So if Alex were just specifically talking about Maui...
Then, yeah, you could make an argument that Lahaina was a seat of power within Maui and that the people there were mostly from Tahiti.
So some of this stuff would work for Maui, but not for Hawaii.
jordan holmes
Well, that's interesting.
I'm learning.
I appreciate that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
What fun.
jordan holmes
Isn't that way better?
dan friesen
What fun to force this from Alex's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, isn't that way better than just being like, yeah, I'll make up some history that makes sense, kind of.
dan friesen
Like, no, that's fun.
It takes a little more effort, which is why Alex doesn't do it.
It just says bullshit like this.
alex jones
Emergency services stood down.
Dozens of fires started instantaneously, just like we've seen in California and all over Canada.
We have satellite footage of California, Canada, other areas where you just see instantly over miles, sometimes 200 miles long, just instantly, fire start everywhere.
dan friesen
So yeah, it's a false flag.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
False flag.
jordan holmes
False flag.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, obviously, that must mean that the governor wanted to seize this land, so they set the fires in order to be able to seize this land.
Right?
I mean, like, that's the conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
If this makes any sense.
jordan holmes
But then it doesn't make sense for Alex to be mad at Biden for not releasing a statement or whatever, because it's clearly Biden's plan to do this.
dan friesen
Well, it's tacky to not release a statement, even though he did days earlier.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
But he also apparently set these fires himself.
dan friesen
Well...
Oh, look, the globalists have a lot of different operations going.
jordan holmes
I feel like they need to have more and better internal communication because there's a lot of stuff going on that seems like it could be in conflict.
dan friesen
This is also really stupid because if the plan is just to kill all of us and sacrifice us to Saturn, then you can have that land after that.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah.
dan friesen
You don't need to do this.
jordan holmes
You can take our stuff after you kill us.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This plot is entirely unnecessary unless it's just like...
For fun, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
Which is the argument I think Alex would make.
Like, they like doing stuff like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks a little bit about the Hawaiian Islands here, and I think...
Pay attention.
He's a little bit off on some of this.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
It was a dry hurricane.
You've seen the high winds.
50, 60, 70 miles an hour.
That blew in, and then all over the rest of the line, because it hit the big island.
Kona right next to it, and then it hit Maui.
Kona's the most...
Easterly.
Most westerly is Kauai, but it's really in the middle of that zone turning over, so you can see it as the perspective of...
It's the most...
Westerly, but it depends on your perspective, but it's the island...
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
...second closest to the mainland west coast.
Goes Kona, and then it goes Maui, and then it goes Wahoo, and then it goes out...
To Lanai and Kaliah.
And then, of course, there's a forbidden island that literal seafaring Amish bought from the king hundreds of years ago.
And then there's an Amish Hawaiian community with no electricity out on the other island that you can only go to on day hunting trips by helicopter.
jordan holmes
Is that true?
alex jones
If I ever get a chance to go out there, I'll do it.
jordan holmes
Me too.
unidentified
Just to be able to...
alex jones
Talk to those folks.
I'm just stunned right now because this is just insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
Alex is a little messy on that order of islands.
By that I mean he's totally off.
He's also including Kona in his list, which isn't an island.
But it's a place on the Big Island.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
In Hawaiian, Kona is a word that means leeward, or the dry side of the island.
And most of the islands have a town or a city with the word Kona in it.
But Kailua Kona is on the Big Island.
It's the one that's the most well-known.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So people just call that Kona.
Yeah.
But Alex, calling the island Kona is weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very strange.
dan friesen
So the Big Island is the most eastward.
And then comes Maui.
To the south of Maui is Kaholui, which is uninhabited.
No one lives there because there are no sources of fresh water and because there's a lingering fear of unexploded bombs that were dropped there during testing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I mean, sure, you think back to the 50s and you say, yeah, we shouldn't have dropped so many nuclear bombs all over the place.
But then you go, where else were we going to get glow-in-the-dark toothpaste?
dan friesen
Yeah, so no one can live there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Smart.
dan friesen
But, I mean, maybe you wouldn't want to live there anyway because, you know, lack of sources of fresh water and what have you, but whatever.
jordan holmes
The water is somehow more important than the bomb, strangely enough.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
And then there's Molokai.
It's an island that has some tourism and agriculture going on, but is probably best known for being home to a giant leper colony where people with leprosy were sent essentially to die.
And that gave the island a little bit of a stigma that still lives in people's minds.
But it's a pretty nice island.
I'd like to go there at some point.
jordan holmes
I mean, we don't still send lepers there.
We can...
dan friesen
Yeah.
But there is still like a...
I don't know.
I remember when I lived there, there was a feeling of like the spirit of that.
Colony is still existing there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I also remember there being the rumors around the school where you're like, that's an island you can't go to.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They'll let you go there.
jordan holmes
The ghost island.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, gotcha.
dan friesen
But that is not correct.
Silly.
South of Molokai is Lanai.
This is probably, it could be the island that Alex is thinking about with the Amish.
I'm not entirely sure.
But it was actually Mormons.
And they weren't given this land.
They were just granted a lease.
At least over a parcel of land.
The guy in charge of that group, Walter Gibson, would expand his holdings until he owned most of the island.
They were involved in agriculture and through a chain of sales, this is a real yada yada yada thing, but eventually Dole Foods ended up owning the island.
Because they owned basically the entire island, it was possible for Larry Elson, the CEO of Oracle, to buy the island, which is an absurd concept, and exactly the outcome that the present-day resistance to predatory development seeks to avoid.
So that Lanai is basically owned by the CEO of Oracle.
98% of the island, 2% is owned by the Hawaiian government.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And that probably wouldn't be possible if it hadn't been for that early consolidation of ownership of the island that went on down through companies to Dole.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, aye, boy.
You know, when you hear that some guy owns an island, you remember that all of this is pretend, and boy.
Boy.
Defenestration, my man.
dan friesen
So then there's Oahu, and I'm going the order from east to west.
jordan holmes
East to west.
dan friesen
And then there's Kauai.
The forbidden island that Alex is talking about is Niihau, and it might be the Amish people he's talking about.
So a woman named Elizabeth Sinclair bought it from Kamehameha V in 1864, and no one can go to that island except government officials.
There's some military people who are allowed because there's an installment on the island, though not active.
It's not like there's people stationed there.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But some military people can come.
Her descendants are allowed to go, and then people they invite.
That's it.
They have a lot of involvement in conservation, but they do allow some people to come for safaris.
Sure.
Some hunting, but it's very limited.
And I don't think they'd like Alex much.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Boy, I really don't think we should let apes own land.
I don't think that's good.
I think we should recognize that we're all still apes and we shouldn't own land.
And we should go back to the trees!
dan friesen
It's a lot of conflict with the feelings around it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Especially with something...
And I don't know why it is different, but I feel like with Hawaii, it's so limited, the amount of land.
And the cultural history is so rich.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the...
Ownership of it is a history of exploitation and theft.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
It is colonialism in a nutshell.
And it has always been.
It's almost like Hawaii is a fucking thermometer for how much colonialism is going on at any given point in time.
dan friesen
So we jump off the topic of the Maui fires, and Alex gets into the indictment a little bit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because he's read it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's totally read it.
unidentified
All of it.
dan friesen
He has a reaction.
jordan holmes
Every bit.
alex jones
Roger Stone joins us in 30 minutes to talk about the indictment.
I've read the indictment this morning, and all I can say is, whoa, this is the globalists cementing their coup over the United States.
That's why George Soros has put in over 900 district attorneys and county attorneys.
Thousands of judges in jurisdictions where they're elected, like Texas.
He has 22 of the state attorney generals, and the globalists have control of the federal Justice Department.
This is total next-level election stealing by indicting four times the leading candidate who would win in a landslide today.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, you can't punish somebody for crimes that they committed if they're gonna run.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, well, you won't know if they've committed those crimes unless they become or don't become president.
dan friesen
Sure.
What if that was murder?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if he's going to become president, you gotta let him murder a guy or wait until after his turn.
dan friesen
Or else it's election meddling.
jordan holmes
It is!
I suppose you could consider you being a murderer election meddling.
dan friesen
It certainly...
jordan holmes
Like, Trump is meddling with his election via crime committing.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah, he definitely has meddled in his own business.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He made choices, and these are the outcomes of those choices.
Boy, you're fucking indicted.
Also, I heard Roger Stone was going to be on to respond to this, and my only reaction was, whoa.
I was just blown away that Roger, someone who's probably scared.
jordan holmes
How can you get Roger these days?
dan friesen
He's a git.
I think he's got to probably be a little bit worried.
He was pretty involved in pushing the elector stuff.
unidentified
He did all the crimes!
jordan holmes
He did the crimes!
dan friesen
If I were him, I would be getting my affairs in order.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
I get that you don't think you're committing a crime.
Right.
Right.
I recognize that.
But once you realize that everybody else does and you're not going to win that fight, you got to run, right?
You got to go.
There's no reason for Roger Stone to stay around and get in prison again.
dan friesen
Well, he's technically not a citizen of the United States.
He has his own sovereign territory called the Stone Zone.
jordan holmes
That is true.
He does bring the Stone Zone with him, like Dracula in the dirt of his home country.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, if I had to guess, I would think that he's really, really hoping that Trump wins and somehow all of this goes away or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pardon state offenses.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that Trump did that you can't do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, actually, I'm at the point now where everything's so terrible.
I just want us to...
Here's what I want.
I want things to end the right way.
All right?
And that is with Trump getting elected, then being convicted of all of his crimes, and sentenced to the rest of his life in prison.
And then him pardoning himself, and then we all go fucking nuts.
Because what happens next?
That's not okay.
We all know that instinctively.
You can't pardon yourself of a crime you committed.
We all know that.
The human race fundamentally knows that.
dan friesen
And yet, there will be a not insignificant portion of the population who believes that he was just to pardon himself, whether or not he does it.
Nixon said if the president does it, it's not a crime.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And if he's the rightful president right now, nothing he's doing now is a crime.
jordan holmes
But here's the other thing.
If he is the rightful president right now, he should not be able to be elected for a third term.
dan friesen
Well, arguably.
Because of the fake impeachment and stuff, he didn't even have a first term.
jordan holmes
He didn't even have half a term.
dan friesen
So he wins in 2024.
That's actually his first term, technically.
jordan holmes
I mean, let's just be, why can't we all just be like, listen, if Trump wins, he's president for life.
We all know that's how this is going to go, so that's the vote, okay?
One or the other.
dan friesen
I mean...
jordan holmes
Stop it.
Let's stop pretending.
dan friesen
Gross.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, look, Trump, sure.
He tried to have a fraudulent slate of electors.
unidentified
Sure!
dan friesen
Sure.
Tried to bully people to accept these slates.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Free speech.
dan friesen
But the Democrats do that all the time.
alex jones
They're inditing him for organized crime racketeering for trying to create alternate delegates, something Democrats have done over and over again.
Barack Obama did it the second time he ran for president in Hawaii.
JFK did it.
Was getting ready to do it.
This is just simply amazing.
Democrats did this when Al Gore lost.
Probably had it stolen.
I don't like Al Gore.
It looks like...
They didn't steal it.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
If Alex is worried about how Gore had the 2000 election stolen, he should take that matter up with Roger Stone.
Oh, what do you know?
Roger's on later in the show, so Alex could totally ask him what he was up to during that election and during the ensuing chaos.
I bet he has some interesting answers.
Probably best not to do that, lest you reveal that stopping the steal was always double talk.
Oh, don't make that too clear to your audience.
jordan holmes
Roger, you've successfully stolen one election.
What's it like to lose?
dan friesen
So those examples Alex uses are not analogous or real.
It just doesn't make sense.
Why would Obama need to get an alternate slate of electors for Hawaii in 2012 when he won the state with over 70% of the vote?
Alex says that JFK was, quote, getting ready to do it, which means nothing.
JFK was killed in November 1963, a full year before the next election, so that would have to be some massive advance planning on his part.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's better than the globalists.
He puts the time in for the plan.
dan friesen
What is he talking about?
jordan holmes
Nothing.
He's talking about absolutely nothing.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
And it's fun for me now, like, truly to be beyond this thing.
You know, like, okay, here's what you're doing.
You're saying, Trump did all this stuff.
Well, Democrats do it too.
Fine.
Let's get them all.
You know?
Fine.
Cool.
Fine.
I'm with you.
dan friesen
Trump.
jordan holmes
Obama, all of them.
Line them up!
dan friesen
Were that the case, that they are all doing the same thing?
jordan holmes
I'm on it.
dan friesen
By all means.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
Please.
I'm sick of all of them.
dan friesen
If people are committing crimes of fraudulent electioneering and stuff, then they're subverting democracy.
I don't care whose party they're in.
Get them out!
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
Get them away from here!
It's not complicated.
dan friesen
No!
jordan holmes
Everyone knows that you cannot pardon yourself of a crime.
unidentified
We'll see.
jordan holmes
And yet we are somehow still questioning it.
dan friesen
We'll see.
So Alex talks about the DA that is pressing these charges on Trump.
And this is definitely...
I was going to sarcastically say it's not racist, but it is.
alex jones
The Soros DA that dates a gang member in cases she's over.
Yeah, she's mobbed up.
Violent gang leader.
Thug.
She's a thug.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it's very clearly an attack that Alex is making and language that he's using because D.A. Fanny Willis is a black woman.
It's very racist.
jordan holmes
Had no idea.
dan friesen
And again, it's an example of Alex being a loser follower.
On August 8th, Trump was giving a speech and he said, quote, they say there's a young woman, a young racist in Atlanta.
She's a racist.
And they say, I guess they say that she was after a certain gang and she ended up having an affair with the head of the gang or a gang member.
And this is the person that wants to indict me?
She's got a lot of problems.
that Willis is a racist, nor that she had an affair with a gang leader.
This is just racist-coded bullshit that Trump was throwing out to smear the people who were attempting to hold him accountable because he knows that his audience loves racist bullshit.
This is pathetic.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm kind of disappointed that I think that would be a very romantic story.
The DA and the gang leader finding out they've got a lot more in common than they expected.
They felt that spark, you know?
dan friesen
As long as you recuse yourself from the case and step away, then it is a gorgeous story.
jordan holmes
If they're allowed to make a romantic comedy where the son of the president and the son of the king fall in love...
Then we get a DA and a gang leader.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I think that counts.
dan friesen
One day.
jordan holmes
I think that counts.
dan friesen
It can be our next West Side Story adaptation.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
So, Roger comes in.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
He has some stuff to say.
And...
roger stone
meh.
unidentified
In the 45 years plus I've been in American politics, I've never seen anything quite like this.
roger stone
Does Yes, you have.
You did it.
dan friesen
Like, obviously I don't agree with Roger's assessment of stuff, but I could imagine a world where Trump just shut the fuck up and, like, tried to not keep riling his followers up and disrupting things and, you know, that may be...
People wouldn't be so aggressively...
But here's the problem.
That counterfactual reality involves him not doing the things he did to try and get the 2020 election overturned.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you can't really have it both ways.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, not just that.
dan friesen
I think if he hadn't done the things he did, he wouldn't be getting indicted.
But he's getting indicted for the things that he did.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's the issue.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, the problem with him...
dan friesen
Roger's gonna fucking turn me into Groucho Marx!
jordan holmes
It is like, oh, well, this is the man who is this man.
He would not have won the presidency if he was not also committing crimes at the same...
You know, like, this is the man who commits crimes.
We've all watched him do it for our lives, our lives, all of our lives!
dan friesen
Yeah, but there's a piece of what Roger's saying that feels like, well, maybe.
But then you peel back the other layer and it's like, well, yeah, if he just shut up...
Then the indictment wouldn't have happened because he wouldn't have done this racketeering.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Here's my piece of evidence.
Here's my piece of evidence, all right?
We know plenty of people in other countries and in the United States who have been railroaded with bullshit trials.
And we know that those...
Charges in those cases do not look like a fucking RICO case with six other assholes and a shit ton of eyewitness accounts of people who were there going, I can't believe he did that!
unidentified
There's better ways to do the crime!
dan friesen
I mean, it makes you think.
Just a little bit.
So, Roger, I just thought this was funny.
This is his good defense of Trump.
roger stone
I've read the transcript.
By the way, it's ponderous.
There were six other lawyers on the phone at the time participating.
It is absolutely clear that the president does not instruct the Secretary of State to go out and find 11,870 ballots.
What he says is, you have...
Illegally counted 11,870 votes that are illegal.
A certain number of them being convicted felons, a certain number of them being people who are deceased, a certain number of them being people who illegally registered to vote from post office boxes, and so on.
So that is a complete bastardization of what he says.
dan friesen
Now look, I didn't say that I was going to bash your kneecaps in if you didn't give me a thousand dollars.
I just said that there's a lot of kneecap...
Attacking people around here, and I can't protect you unless you pay me that thousand dollars.
jordan holmes
I love that.
dan friesen
That is so, so sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I mean, it's nice to be, because I imagine being in the room when he's saying that and bursting out laughing, because that's the only thing you can do.
That's hilarious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are you going to stop it?
dan friesen
Alex has to have his cough button on.
Oh, totally.
Hearing Roger be like, I don't understand.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He didn't say go find me 11,870 in votes.
He did say that.
unidentified
Literally.
jordan holmes
But what he meant to say, actually, what he did say that you should think is what he said.
dan friesen
The subtext that was there is important.
jordan holmes
Exactly, which is what's more important than the words he said.
And you can interpret the words that people say any different way you want to.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Especially when they mean them a way.
dan friesen
So yeah, Roger, that's pathetic.
I don't think he thinks he can get pardoned twice.
So, Roger leaves.
Not an eventful interview.
No.
And Alex is complaining about public schools and what have you.
And then this leads to something I think that is a little bit revelatory.
alex jones
And you look at the Heritage Foundation and the rest of them that do some good work.
They just parrot all day long about, oh, well, let's just get rid of public schools.
Yeah, they're horrible.
They're cesspools.
They're leftists.
They're brainwashing.
They're terrible in most areas, but in some rural areas, they're pretty good.
And they are autonomous, and they are independent school districts, but not in the big cities.
But then you look at the private schools now, most of them are getting accredited and getting grants and are just as bad as the public schools.
jordan holmes
I just don't like reality.
alex jones
You can't get a job if you're homeschooled or whatever because you don't have an accredited system.
So it's like getting rid of apartheid and then bringing something in ten times worse.
Communism.
We're not for apartheid.
We're not defending it.
unidentified
Would you rather have gonorrhea or brain cancer?
alex jones
You can get rid of gonorrhea.
It doesn't kill you.
Brain cancer does.
Apartheid is gonorrhea.
jordan holmes
I was expecting that.
alex jones
Communism in South Africa is terminal brain cancer.
And I'll take gonorrhea all day.
I'm not saying go back to gonorrhea.
I'm saying...
Don't just think, oh they're reforming!
When you tear a building down, you've reformed it.
That just means you're changing.
What?
Army Air Corps reformed Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
Flattened it like a pancake.
dan friesen
Is that reform thing?
Alex is pretty big on that.
Whenever we hear reform, we should think...
unidentified
Reform.
dan friesen
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Formed again.
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
Breaking down words.
jordan holmes
Breaking them down.
There's two of them.
dan friesen
So that metaphor doesn't really work that Alex made.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
And a big part of the reason is that Alex is proposing a false choice.
He's laying it out that in the case of South Africa, and implicitly Zimbabwe, the choices were apartheid or communism, and no other outcome was possible.
This is a fraud that is constructed for a purpose, which is to mask the actual position Alex and his ilk have, which is that they support apartheid.
This is the way that Alex wants to give lip service to being opposed to obviously bad and racist things, while at the same time supporting every position that works to strengthen and reinforce those bad and racist things.
Essentially, the thrust of this argument comes down to this.
You better keep apartheid in place, because if you don't, you'll have the brain cancer of communism.
It's meant to be understood as a threat to anyone seeking to better society that they'd better keep the existing hierarchies and dynamics in place.
but it's bullshit Yeah.
Is South Africa a communist country?
jordan holmes
I mean, the word communism means nothing anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
It means nothing.
dan friesen
Well, it does, but for them it means nothing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for them it means nothing.
dan friesen
It's meant nothing for generations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
It's been an unfortunate word for a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because, I mean, the concept is so much easier to hate on.
It's quite simple, really.
It's like, oh, I don't think people are equals.
The end.
And you're like, well, okay.
I don't understand how to explain economics to you if that's your opening salvo, but okay.
dan friesen
Well, and Alex is also kind of missing an important piece of this that is like, apartheid is gonorrhea to me.
Because I'm on the power side of it.
It's not so much a trivial thing that you can just get rid of if you are a person who is living under that apartheid system.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit like, let me see if I can make the gonorrhea thing work.
I can't, because it doesn't make any sense.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Apartheid is not gonorrhea.
dan friesen
No, and I think that one of the things that Alex is incapable of is imagining that he were in a different...
Social strata than he is.
And I think that that kind of inability is...
I don't know.
It limits his thinking quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Well, you cannot...
Here's what you can't do with Alex.
If you tell Alex to imagine himself in another country, Alex takes him and his trappings and his life and his money and his wealth and he lifts it up and he puts it in that country and he goes, I will be Alex to those people.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
There's no part of him that's like, okay, well, if I'm born in this economic strata in this country, I am doing this stuff.
I am not capable of having a shit ton of money.
I'm born under apartheid rule.
You know, those kinds of things.
dan friesen
It's impossible for him to abstractly imagine different circumstances.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
dan friesen
So Alex decides to do some impressions, like a schwab.
I think he gets lost.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And Klaus Schwab, the WF, are the puppets of the Rockefeller dynasty recruiting the other leaders as they, quote, penetrates the cabinets and takes control of the governments.
And what else do we do?
jordan holmes
We going Martian?
alex jones
We set up basic dictatorships.
My protege, Justin Trudeau, tell the national TV what you admire.
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
Oh, you admire basic dictatorship and Xi Jinping.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And what has Klaus Schwab said many times?
Well, China is the best model.
jordan holmes
I thought you were China.
alex jones
And we would like to have it here.
And you're going to have it.
Drones giving you orders, forced conscription, and forced labor camps, as well as harvesting the ogre.
jordan holmes
Now he's talking!
unidentified
Liberal.
Forced government euthanasia.
Chapping up children's genitals.
La, la, la, la, la.
La, la, la, la, la, la.
La, la, la, la, la, la.
It doesn't even rhyme.
Oh.
Oh.
dan friesen
That's how he sings his kids a lullaby.
Also, I mean, Alex said that he was one of the most sought-after voiceover actors until he started criticizing Obama.
I didn't ever get any gigs in voiceover, but I did dabble.
I had a demo tape made.
Oh, for sure!
And I know that one of the hallmarks of good voiceover acting...
Is when you can't really tell who the character is supposed to be.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And when you kind of slip in and out of different characters, you're not consistent with the voice.
That just shows your range.
I mean, it's just really, it's mastery as opposed to competence.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, a lot of people don't respect that accent work is more about when you decide that you forgot to use the accent on this scene.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the problem.
dan friesen
And correcting on the fly.
jordan holmes
To where you're like, wait, are you a different person now?
dan friesen
You must be.
jordan holmes
Did you?
Also, that was Marvin the Martian.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
But when he wasn't being Marvin the Martian.
dan friesen
I think he was being Klaus Schwab.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then also there was another Klaus Schwab voice.
jordan holmes
There was another Klaus Schwab voice.
dan friesen
He has two that he was going in and out of.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Very.
jordan holmes
That was unfortunate.
dan friesen
Messy.
jordan holmes
That was disgusting.
dan friesen
So now the rest of the episode ends up.
Well, okay.
Full disclosure.
jordan holmes
Full disclosure.
dan friesen
I turned it off in the third hour.
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
That's because he was interviewing Judy Mikovits, the plandemic lady.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And I don't care.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
How are we going to top they're trying to make you allergic to meat for a COVID vaccine shit?
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
There's nothing you can do.
That's like the Project Camelot.
They're trying to turn us into vampires.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
There's nowhere else to go.
You can't heighten the bit.
Nope.
So the rest of this ends up being Alex discussing globalist recruitment.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so he talks a little bit here about meetings that he's had with them.
alex jones
And I'm going to explain this to you because it's important.
I'm not bragging about it.
There was one time in meetings I've had with these people, and I've had at least 15 meetings with Globalist over the years.
Fox News tried to hire me.
Roger Ailes tried to hire me.
That was the lower-level stuff.
Clear Channel tried to hire me 18 years ago.
Stuff like that.
But those were private meetings, off-record, so I've never given the details of those.
Because as a journalist, when somebody says it's a private meeting, unless they discuss crimes, it's a private meeting.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Dinner with Bilderberg group members.
Dinner with billionaires that are household names, okay?
And those are private meetings, and that's that.
dan friesen
I understand with, like, maybe if Fox...
It was like offering him a job.
It'd be kind of tacky to talk about the details of that.
But if that's what he's considering, meetings with the globalists, that's pretty sad.
Also, if he is meeting with these billionaires and these high-level globalist people...
By definition, what they're talking about is a crime.
Because they're trying to kill 80-99% of the population.
So that's a crime.
So I think he's free to talk about what they said.
You don't need to keep that confidentiality anymore, Alex.
jordan holmes
Unless they're planning on committing a specific crime.
Not the eradication of all life on this planet.
And then the eventual transhumanism revolution.
And then going into multiple dimensions.
You literally can't say that.
dan friesen
So there's one instance, like you said, there's one time that he can break that confidentiality.
And here's what it is.
I don't think this person committed a crime at all.
jordan holmes
That time that he said it was Donald Trump Jr. who is Mike Cernovich's source?
dan friesen
No.
But I don't think that what he's talking about here is a crime.
And I think that the other things that he implies that he's talked about with globalists definitely are crimes.
alex jones
15, 16 years ago, John Harmon, the oldest employee here.
He used to be my producer.
Now he's an affiliate relations head.
I said, I told the producer, I said, I want Rothkopf, who was the head of the Kissinger group, Kissinger's right-hand man.
You've all heard the story, but for new listeners, I'll tell it again.
dan friesen
Fucking thousand times.
alex jones
I said, he's written a new book that I just read about how there's only a few thousand globalists and how they run the planet and how they're a superclass and how they know best, which is basically a coming-out-of-the-closet event for the New World Order, as you see them now doing times ten.
And so we get him on for an hour interview.
And during the first break, he says, listen, I may leave.
So I'm talking to him during the break.
I can punch up guests.
And Harmon is sitting in the control room at a different opposite, but just like this.
It's a smaller studio.
He's listening to it.
So I'm a witness to this.
And he says, listen, Alex, you are going to be part of the superclass.
I came on here to be friendly.
I came here to be nice.
We know who you are.
We know who you basically are the patriot leader.
We have big things in store.
jordan holmes
You're a guy.
alex jones
And I'd already been offered big jobs.
jordan holmes
We know you've been offered big jobs.
alex jones
They'd already come and tried to hire me at that point.
Because they could tell I was a talented, smart broadcaster, and I understood things.
jordan holmes
You're a talented smart broadcaster that understands.
alex jones
It's always the same speech from these guys.
You're talented.
You understand things.
unidentified
The public does it.
alex jones
You need to seat the table with us.
You can be a star and actually have some of your views listen to, but you'll go nowhere.
On your little crusade, why don't you come to New York?
Oh, we're going back live.
Let's have a friendly interview.
And I'm like, well, we'll come right back.
So we do a second segment.
Somebody find the Rothkopf interview.
It's 2005, 2006.
Whenever Superclass came out is the year that we had him on.
He said, just come out.
It was a bestseller.
I do another 10-minute segment.
We go to break, and he goes, no.
Yeah, there he is.
He goes, I'm leaving.
And I said, why?
And he said, well, you're just not listening.
You just don't get it.
And you're silly.
And you're going nowhere with this.
If you come back in a friendly, I'll do the rest of the hour, but it's just you're not listening to me, and you don't understand.
This is something we've got to do, and it's for everybody's best interest.
I got the same speech one time when I was flying to be on The View, I think like a year later.
And I'm in first class in American Airlines, and there's the head of the third largest bank in the U.S. sitting next to me.
He was visiting his dad, a retired general in San Antonio.
And I got, we talked to him for three hours.
We didn't talk the first 30 minutes.
I got the same speech.
Look, corporations know how to run things.
The public's too stupid.
You need to get on board, Alex.
He's laughing at me.
And I'm with my hair sticking on the drug in the morning, and I'm sitting there, and he gets up in his perfect suit, puts on his perfect black French coat, just laughs at me at the end of it.
And I can tell you now when I've had meetings with these people, other ones, very high level, they're not laughing anymore.
And they're like, yeah, there's a good chance it's going to get out of control of the police.
You know what I think about that?
dan friesen
I think destroying the planet's a crime.
I think you can burn these people.
jordan holmes
I think you can probably tell them that they've committed a crime.
dan friesen
I've watched this Rothkopf interview and it doesn't hold up to Alex's telling of it.
And by the way, none of that was a crime that Rothkopf did.
Any of those things that they were discussing off air that Alex is describing.
So it only makes sense that Alex is being specific about this person because there is an interview that they did.
And so people can go like, oh my god, this interview does exist, so what he said happened off-air must have happened off-air.
That's like this sort of surrogate proof that's fraud.
It's fraud.
It's bullshit.
jordan holmes
I've got proof that's like what you were thinking, so you can assume that I have proof that is what you were thinking.
dan friesen
Yeah, and like, okay, I think that there is a kernel of truth here.
I bet Rothkopf said like, hey, you're not listening to me.
You're not letting me talk.
I don't want to have this interview.
I'm leaving.
I bet that did happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's what I would have done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I bet he was like a less patient Bill Ayers.
jordan holmes
I believe 100% that he has gotten many speeches every time he has tried to go on any kind of television program.
And they're all essentially the same.
Be more professional, you useless piece of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, shut up.
jordan holmes
Shut up!
dan friesen
You're annoying the shit out of me in first class.
jordan holmes
I swear to you, we are having you on television to talk, and all I want you to do is shut the fuck up.
dan friesen
Yeah, and honestly, he probably, in all reality, tricked Rothkopf into coming on the show.
unidentified
100%.
dan friesen
Probably in part for the optics that he could exploit like this.
jordan holmes
And try and make him run out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Much like he tried to do with David Rothschild.
Much like he's done with tons of other guests.
Try to get them to leave so you can say they can't handle it.
jordan holmes
Just trying to have a conversation.
dan friesen
And so that's why he's comfortable.
Using that specific example and then not naming any of these other globalists that he's discussed things with and then hiding behind that.
I like that journalist patient confidentiality.
I can only mention it when they commit crimes.
jordan holmes
It's just the truth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucking garbage.
Ridiculous.
dan friesen
So I love one thing, and that is Alex doing movie reviews.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I love a second thing, and that is the conversations about his dad.
Yes.
Alex goes on after talking about the attempts to recruit him into the globalists.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He talks about his dads.
jordan holmes
Are we going to get another?
dan friesen
We might get two more versions.
jordan holmes
Are you shitting me?
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Now, my father, 14 years old, genius, top of his class, top of everything.
His mother was a school administrator and my grandmother really into education.
Patty.
dan friesen
Patty.
alex jones
Jones.
dan friesen
Jones.
alex jones
And she put him in all these science fairs and contests and kept winning them.
And at 14, Union Carbide says, out of Houston, David Jones has just won this one contest.
We've got another contest for him.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, were they?
alex jones
And if he can pass this, he's going to give it a very special offer.
And he's got five days to complete the task.
A truck is arriving in three days.
Their ranch, their farm, working farm in East Texas.
dan friesen
This truck will self-destruct.
unidentified
I was going to say, yes, this has to be.
alex jones
And lowers a big crate in the front yard with no plans or no designs.
My dad tears it apart and in two days...
Builds a high-powered ruby laser that was some type of cyclotronic...
jordan holmes
Cyclotronic?
alex jones
Particle beam.
jordan holmes
Cyclotronic particle beam.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And starts...
Late 70s?
No.
unidentified
Frying metal.
dan friesen
So glad it was metal.
alex jones
He was wearing three pairs of sunglasses.
He was blind for a month.
Burned his eyes.
They thought he'd never see again.
They came back and they said, Mr. Jones, you're being recruited by NASA.
You're going to be put in Plan 2 in six months when you're 15 years old, and you're going to be part of NASA.
It's not NASA.
unidentified
Damn.
alex jones
He gets sent to UT, he gets evaluated by all these guys, and they go, okay, David, we got your first job.
jordan holmes
Kill the president.
alex jones
Anderson Cancer Research in Houston.
jordan holmes
A little different.
alex jones
And at 15 years old, my father for a year.
This is not true!
jordan holmes
No part of this is true!
alex jones
It's not even a little bit.
Then they bring him back to UT, and he never told me this until he saw Endgame before it was finished.
jordan holmes
Ha, ha, ha.
alex jones
And he went ahead.
I knew about it.
I heard about it from his mom.
He built the laser and was at the UT and all this.
And then whatever he did after that for a while, he won't talk about.
But by his late 20s, after I was a couple years old, he got out of it and said, it's bad.
It's bad.
dan friesen
It's bad.
jordan holmes
Review?
alex jones
Bad.
dan friesen
Shit is bad.
From 15 to his late 20s, he was involved in secret cancer studies by the globalists.
What the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Okay, first off...
dan friesen
This is so contradictory of other stories that he has.
jordan holmes
First off, we started with the plot of Real Genius, which is a great movie.
dan friesen
Or Last Starfighter.
It has a little ahead in there.
jordan holmes
A little bit of both.
A little bit of combined both of those.
Then we go all the way into...
I don't understand the cancer research part, right?
I don't understand.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
How it is that UT, for whatever reason, is going around monitoring science fairs.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then...
dan friesen
Tricking kids into thinking they're going to NASA by giving them laser parts.
jordan holmes
Yes.
That one's weird.
Constructing a laser in the 60s, which is when this would have to have been going on, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't remember when his dad was born, but he was probably...
jordan holmes
Alex was born in 74. So he was born in the early 50s.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
So he'd have been 15 in the mid-60s.
I don't know if we could build a laser yet that could cause a metal burn.
dan friesen
Well, let me say this.
We couldn't.
David Jones could, and that is why the globalists wanted him.
He was so good at these state fairs, making baking soda volcanoes or whatever the fuck he was doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
But this is, again, I don't understand.
Okay, so fine.
Science fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
I actually believe that.
jordan holmes
Build a laser?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
No, but fine.
What are you talking about?
Somebody drops a crate magically with no instructions and it's a laser?
dan friesen
No, let me be clear.
That didn't happen.
But Alex's grandma telling a story of her son building a laser.
I could believe that.
jordan holmes
I could believe something like that.
dan friesen
Yeah, but she's probably misunderstanding some piece of it somewhere.
But yeah, the version of it where this 18-wheeler shows up.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's ridiculous.
But I do think he probably was winning science fairs.
I think he probably did get invited to the university to talk to some professors.
Maybe he was even invited to like audit a course or something as like an advanced placement kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Could be!
dan friesen
I think that's possible.
jordan holmes
All very possible.
What's not possible is that somebody thinking, alright.
This person has constructed a laser.
We need them, obviously, for these medical trials on cancer.
Unless they're using lasers to kill cancer, but that wouldn't even make any sense in the 60s.
dan friesen
I think that might be part of the implication that Alex is making.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
Okay, so here's a couple things.
unidentified
One...
dan friesen
Why don't you get an adult?
They clearly would know more about the cancer research that you're doing.
jordan holmes
So much better to get an adult.
dan friesen
I guess maybe...
Here's my problem.
You don't even have a worker's permit at this point, probably.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
How are they going to hire you?
jordan holmes
You know what?
That's why the trials aren't secret because they're doing any weird medical shit.
They're secret because they don't have a work permit for David Jones.
dan friesen
Right.
It's all off the books.
It's all off the books.
But it's purely for financial reasons.
jordan holmes
Just for that.
Yeah.
Tax purposes.
dan friesen
So he did this for over a decade.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Or other stuff that's bad.
jordan holmes
Could be.
It's bad.
Hey, let me tell you something.
I got out of it.
It's bad.
dan friesen
Son.
I wasn't going to tell you about this, but then I saw your dumb shit movie.
jordan holmes
That's great.
That's another great part.
It was after he saw a movie where I made up a bunch of bullshit and used Microsoft to card it and justify lies.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then he was like, I bet he'll believe this shit.
dan friesen
I used fake quotes to make most of my points, son.
unidentified
Is that?
jordan holmes
Is that?
dan friesen
Oh, no, wait.
I figured it out.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Alex's dad watched the movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He comes to him and he's like, son, it's bad.
And Alex thinks he's talking about the globalists, but it's actually a review of the movie.
jordan holmes
Right.
Oh, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, makes total sense.
jordan holmes
That actually makes a lot of sense.
And Alex isn't going to be able to handle, it's bad.
alex jones
It's bad.
jordan holmes
So he's got to rewrite an entire story about his dad being part of secret medical trials when he was 15. Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex talks more about his dad's journey.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he mixes up some pretty critical details that he's established in the past.
alex jones
That's just my dad, folks.
Do you have any idea how many people they have recruited for this thing?
Because the head of the UT Botany Department that ran the Plan 2 program, that's what it's called.
unidentified
Professor Strauss called my dad in.
alex jones
And said, David, we've searched the whole country of the six finalists.
You're the number one finalist.
We're now going to reveal to you what this project is.
And it's basically everything you see now.
Worldwide government, worldwide eugenics, the whole shooting match.
And then they gave him some other mission he won't tell me about, and he got out of it.
jordan holmes
Because it was bad?
unidentified
It's bad.
alex jones
That's the real world, folks.
jordan holmes
That's how things really work.
alex jones
Grow up.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
That's fun.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
You get to get slapped.
If you do that...
You get to slap.
dan friesen
Well, here's a fundamental problem with the way that Alex is telling the story, because we've essentially created what amounts to almost a time loop.
He's got the doctor's name wrong, the botanist, that was Erwin Spear.
Alex has already talked about this in the past.
And Erwin Spear tried to recruit Alex's dad when he was like 16, 18, in that range, not in his late 20s.
jordan holmes
When he was doing medical testing.
dan friesen
So if he was involved with this until his late 20s, that means that Erwin Spear would have told him.
plans of the globalists are all these evil things and then he would have stayed in with the globalists working with them for a decade he would have been uh complicit in in this stuff yeah In a way that I don't think Alex is willing to wrestle with.
jordan holmes
And I think that's so fun because that's actually a great origin story for Alex.
dan friesen
It's like Dr. Group and how his dad invented plastic.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
It is so funny!
It is so funny!
dan friesen
Yeah, you gotta right the wrongs of your father.
It's so much more of a captivating story than my dad is a superhero that the bad guys all wanted to recruit but he was too noble so he...
Worked on CIA people's teeth.
jordan holmes
If Greek playwrights thought of it several thousand years ago, it's a good plan.
And it's gonna keep going.
unidentified
Okay?
jordan holmes
That's how you do it.
dan friesen
Man.
Man, oh man.
Alex needs to keep these details straight.
Because when he just starts to get creative and shit, it ends up being like, oh, this doesn't work with the story you've established in the past.
Oh well.
I guess his dad was a globalist for ten years.
jordan holmes
I don't appreciate being told a child's fairy tale that ends with...
Get it, people?
That's the real world.
dan friesen
Wake up.
jordan holmes
Grow up.
I did not appreciate that.
dan friesen
Actually, I do.
jordan holmes
Of course you do.
dan friesen
It's so on the other side.
jordan holmes
It's too much.
dan friesen
It's self-parody.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It's like, why even have all these degrees?
We just need one line.
dan friesen
A lot of stuff frustrates me about Alex, but when he says something like that...
I'm fine.
I'm bulletproof on that one.
jordan holmes
That's true.
You've got that one down.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex talking over Turn the Page.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, based on what we experienced in our last episode, I want you to imagine this with no music.
Because that's now my new thing.
jordan holmes
That's creepy.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Say, here I am.
alex jones
On the road again.
unidentified
On the road again.
alex jones
Here I am.
unidentified
Here I am.
alex jones
Up on the stage.
unidentified
Up on the stage.
Here I go.
Playing the star again.
alex jones
Turn the page.
unidentified
Turn the page.
alex jones
All right.
So we're under UN world government with an endgame to slowly collapse society while the collapsers pose as the saviors as they kill seven and a half billion people at least.
We are at the verge of oblivion.
unidentified
We feel the eyes upon you as you're shaking off the cold.
jordan holmes
I'm just going to finish this song real quick.
alex jones
But you just want to explode.
Yeah, I see the unwashed masses.
I see how they're lazy and dumbed down.
I see how the systems have everything they can to make them that way.
But I see the globalists.
unidentified
The inbred scum, the self-appointed arrogance.
alex jones
They're the disease.
They all killed themselves.
unidentified
Then I might respect them a little.
Then I might listen to their plan.
dan friesen
This should be psychotic without any music.
jordan holmes
That is...
Do you know that...
dan friesen
And why would you listen to their plan if they killed themselves?
jordan holmes
The first...
Don't even...
I don't even want to...
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
I don't want to deal with that.
It's a little bit like the Garfield without Garfield.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
Where it's like, oh, John is existentially collapsing as a human being.
dan friesen
My favorite thing in the world is just imagining the headspace of the engineer who's watching this, and he's like, I gotta crank this music back up.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, right?
Don't you have to be like, oh, this needs...
dan friesen
Alex is floating, he is adrift.
jordan holmes
This needs going up.
unidentified
Okay, there we go.
Woo!
jordan holmes
That would be a truly terrifying supercut of that, just Alex talking over music with the music removed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And having him do the weird little singing things that he does, and then the talking, and then somehow he's telling you a terrible story and criticizing somebody, and then he'll still go back into the lyrics at the same time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what would be fun?
Hmm.
I'm imagining something that's too fanciful to exist.
And that is, like, Alex does a rant, kind of like...
One of these opening rants, but it's to a different song.
But at some point he says, like, take it to the streets.
And then so you put under it, taking it to the streets!
Just put the wrong music under it, but it matches some word that he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know how that would work, but it would be real funny.
jordan holmes
Almost like if the music was doing Beastie Boys to you.
You know?
dan friesen
Sabotage?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, like it's all of a sudden coming in on the final rhyme word.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, this song is coming back at you.
dan friesen
Man, if I were one of these people...
Who made YouTube videos and wanted to make something that might go viral, I would spend the time that it would take, because it would probably take quite a bit of time to invest in making that.
If anybody wants a viral video suggestion, it probably won't work.
jordan holmes
And that will waste a lot of your time.
Especially if you don't complete it.
dan friesen
Don't do that.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
dan friesen
So, we come to the end of this, and we've learned a little bit about Hawaii.
jordan holmes
We have.
dan friesen
Alex has said some racist shit about the DA.
jordan holmes
We did hear that.
dan friesen
Alex prefers apartheid to everything, really.
jordan holmes
Of all the examples to really...
If you're bringing out apartheid as one of your examples, it should be the example of the worst thing.
If you are bringing out apartheid as one of your examples, and then it's better than something, you are a racist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well...
I agree.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's that knowledgefight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark.
unidentified
Boop-boop-boop-boop-boop-boop-boop-boop-boop.
dan friesen
Don't worry.
unidentified
Be happy.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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